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« Reply #3575 on: March 09, 2019, 09:19:23 PM »
Seems it’s a possible that he did the interview after being sacked.

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« Reply #3576 on: March 09, 2019, 09:20:11 PM »
To do what? Play Pulis ball and be on the same points as Boro, Pulis is the expert at that style and we are above him.

The next manager will have a real job on his hands, it looks like the 40 points and give up mentality is still alive in the club and our top players are already looking for an escape route.

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A good manager should react to different scenarios and situations.  Whoever mentioned Pulis? It is OK to define a new way of playing mid season if that befits your squad of players.  It is called utilising the best of your resources and being intelligent.

We played the same way were too open and totally unorganised. Culminating with being embarrassed by Ipswich.

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« Reply #3577 on: March 09, 2019, 09:21:16 PM »
Incredibly saddened by this. I can’t understand why you’d take on an inexperienced manager if you weren’t prepared to accept he needed time to adapt to his first management role.

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« Reply #3578 on: March 09, 2019, 09:25:54 PM »
Think owners just cottoned on to fact that their investment could go south.

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« Reply #3579 on: March 09, 2019, 09:28:26 PM »
I can tell you 100% he was already sacked yesterday and was just keeping up appearances.

I never wanted him to get the job but not because he didnt deserve it but the fact that at some point he would be kicked out of the club never to return.

The club are a disgrace full stop, I give up....
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« Reply #3580 on: March 09, 2019, 09:32:30 PM »
Its sad that football bosses and fans, have become so impatient that managers get fired so easily. I wasn't there today, and I'm sure the performance was one of our poorest this season, but still think he should have been allowed a bit more time, as he's achieved alot. Every team goes through dips in form every season, even the best of them. 
Feel for DM as he's obviously a very sincere bloke, with a genuine passion for the club.
You'd assume that the board have someone lined up who can make the difference, wouldn't you?

   
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« Reply #3581 on: March 09, 2019, 09:38:52 PM »
why would you sack a manager 7 days after your last game and on the eve of the next one. this clubs made some weird choices in my lifetime but that's one i can't work out at all.

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« Reply #3582 on: March 09, 2019, 09:42:03 PM »

It's sad to see a club legend lose his position like this but for me he should never have been given the job on a permanent basis last May and I said so at the time. I always felt he was out of his depth and so it proved to be.

Recent results have been shocking, especially at home which has left us distant from an automatic promotion spot. With a play-off spot also under threat action needed to be taken. It seems the players had lost confidence in his "plan A" and poor in-game management, and with that being the case we would have had little hope in the play-offs.

A sad but correct decision.
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« Reply #3583 on: March 09, 2019, 09:44:18 PM »
Think owners just cottoned on to fact that their investment could go south.

I deal with Chinese businesses at work.

Sackings are very common for their employees who are sent from a China to the UK, they work 16-18hr days compared to the contracted hours their British colleagues work on Chinese contracts.

What relevance does this have- when I ask why X or Y has been sacked it is purely a financial decision, they are ruthless and will not accept anything but their target, if it isn’t going that way they sack and replace.

It’s all about ROI, he didn’t buy us because he had been a childhood fan, it’s a business to him.
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« Reply #3584 on: March 09, 2019, 09:46:02 PM »
It's sad to see a club legend lose his position like this but for me he should never have been given the job on a permanent basis last May and I said so at the time. I always felt he was out of his depth and so it proved to be.

Recent results have been shocking, especially at home which has left us distant from an automatic promotion spot. With a play-off spot also under threat action needed to be taken. It seems the players had lost confidence in his "plan A" and poor in-game management, and with that being the case we would have had little hope in the play-offs.

A sad but correct decision.

You mean the play off spot that looks better then it did at 3pm today ? As bad as we were today were in a better position then we were at 3pm

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« Reply #3585 on: March 09, 2019, 09:46:36 PM »
Totally understand it but this is a very sad day , personally think he needed an older head along side him not Jones .
The players can have a look at themselves and the Club itself too especially using Moore as a PR machine at every chance .
Thank you Darren and good luck with whatever is next.
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« Reply #3586 on: March 09, 2019, 09:47:52 PM »
I deal with Chinese businesses at work.

Sackings are very common for their employees who are sent from a China to the UK, they work 16-18hr days compared to the contracted hours their British colleagues work on Chinese contracts.

What relevance does this have- when I ask why X or Y has been sacked it is purely a financial decision, they are ruthless and will not accept anything but their target, if it isn’t going that way they sack and replace.

It’s all about ROI, he didn’t buy us because he had been a childhood fan, it’s a business to him.
So what will be the new blokes target? Automatic presumably as we were destined for play offs anyway and will be get the sack of he fails? If so who would want the job?

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« Reply #3587 on: March 09, 2019, 09:53:46 PM »
My love of football has been on the decline since the Premiership formed all about money and status and today just summed that up. We have a chairman who couldn't give a toss about the club just about making money and we are a plaything he will soon get bored of.
Big Dave may not have been the best coach but we couldn't doubt his commitment and love of the club a sad sad day and my love of football is all but extinguished it's grubby and dirty in a country where everyone is always at each other throats.

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« Reply #3588 on: March 09, 2019, 09:57:01 PM »
So what will be the new blokes target? Automatic presumably as we were destined for play offs anyway and will be get the sack of he fails? If so who would want the job?
there'll never be a shortage of people wanting a £20 k pw job. even if it damages their reputation they'll take the chance. the merry go round of managers proves it. you don't particularly have to be good or successful to get a managers position.

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« Reply #3589 on: March 09, 2019, 10:05:12 PM »
Absolutely torn on what to think. On the one hand I wanted and willed him Moore to turn it around himself.

I’d have given him 1 more week.
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« Reply #3590 on: March 09, 2019, 10:06:45 PM »
Awful decision. The club could at least given him the chance to see if we'd go up via the play offs. We deserve all the national abuse we'll get for this.
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« Reply #3591 on: March 09, 2019, 10:13:03 PM »
Been out tonight and only just seen this, I am gutted for Darren, I cannot help but think that Graham Jones was a mistake,  just hope that the club has a plan ready to implement
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« Reply #3592 on: March 09, 2019, 10:29:14 PM »
I deal with Chinese businesses at work.

Sackings are very common for their employees who are sent from a China to the UK, they work 16-18hr days compared to the contracted hours their British colleagues work on Chinese contracts.

What relevance does this have- when I ask why X or Y has been sacked it is purely a financial decision, they are ruthless and will not accept anything but their target, if it isn’t going that way they sack and replace.

It’s all about ROI, he didn’t buy us because he had been a childhood fan, it’s a business to him.
I also have worked with Oriental people.
I think I also noticed that they do not like to "lose face".
I had to dismiss an employee because his work was so poor.
I was accused of racialism and not liking foreigners etc.

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« Reply #3593 on: March 09, 2019, 10:35:25 PM »
A bitter pill to swallow.
His guts must be churning....

Darren was thrown in at the deep end.
When he relaxes over the next few months, and thinks about his future, he can move forward witha great CV.
He can re-enter the management market with his head held high and then progress with experience.
This is all a learning curve.
All the best to him.

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« Reply #3594 on: March 09, 2019, 10:35:52 PM »
The sacking is knee jerk - you cannot keep sacking a manager every time your form takes a dip - otherwise we’ll have two and three managers a years it also laughable that Moore gets the sack now for not achieving promotion given the rubbish hand he was dealt at the start of the season.

Moore may have been naive, but given he saved us from a Sunderland style relegation , he deserved the opportunity to rebuild this football club. All this talk of a long term project has proved to be complete and utter balls.

The other big mistake Moore made was the choosing of Jones over Shakespeare - Moore needed that experienced hand rather than relying on an individual with a patchy record previously whose footballing beliefs was the polar opposite to his own - it often showed.

The man remains a hero, and I’m gutted it ends this way. This might be the heat of the emotions, but for me, given everything this season & the recent rubbish with season tickets, Jenkins and Lai can do one.
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« Reply #3595 on: March 09, 2019, 10:42:49 PM »
The sacking is knee jerk - you cannot keep sacking a manager every time your form takes a dip - otherwise we’ll have two and three managers a years it also laughable that Moore gets the sack now for not achieving promotion given the rubbish hand he was dealt at the start of the season.

Moore may have been naive, but given he saved us from a Sunderland style relegation , he deserved the opportunity to rebuild this football club. All this talk of a long term project has proved to be complete and utter balls.

The other big mistake Moore made was the choosing of Jones over Shakespeare - Moore needed that experienced hand rather than relying on an individual with a patchy record previously whose footballing beliefs was the polar opposite to his own - it often showed.

The man remains a hero, and I’m gutted it ends this way. This might be the heat of the emotions, but for me, given everything this season & the recent rubbish with season tickets, Jenkins and Lai can do one.
agree that Jenkins and Lai should do one but Moore was to loyal to a bunch of over paid pre Madonnas who have left him down.
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« Reply #3596 on: March 09, 2019, 10:45:10 PM »
Results and performances have been poor of late

Slightly shocked at his sacking though...

If promotion was the objective then surely he deserved the chance to see the season out...we are 9 points of automatic not 9 points outside the playoff places  ???
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« Reply #3597 on: March 09, 2019, 10:49:19 PM »
Agree we are sitting in the play off places, it’s not the time to sack him now, the owners have knee jerked and I worry that we have know got a vacuum and no plan.
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« Reply #3598 on: March 09, 2019, 10:49:51 PM »
Surprised but massively relieved ....

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« Reply #3599 on: March 09, 2019, 10:50:48 PM »
Agree we are sitting in the play off places, it’s not the time to sack him now, the owners have knee jerked and I worry that we have know got a vacuum and no plan.
I'd be worried if they hadn't have acted
Moore didn't have a plan , that was clear, Jones plan was to run off to Luton ..

The board have acted decisively and deserve praise for it
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