[smethwick2]

Absolutely no chance.

I would bet my house on DM not losing his job before the end of the season.

The only way he loses his job in the summer would be if we exploded now and didn't even make the playoffs, even though I would probably hazard a guess at him still remaining in a job.

DM has dealt with a lot in his time in his first job, steadying a sinking ship that couldn't buy a win in the premier league, dealing with all the chaos in the summer, no club structure, dealing with all the ins and outs, being given a very limited budget to try and mount a promotion challenge, changed the style of play, brought the club together, changed the perception of the club to others, bring back a little bit of pride to be a baggie, has us sitting just off the top 2, 2nd highest scorers in the country, introduced several youth team players into the first team squad.

All that plus more in his first managerial job is incredible. You only have to look at Villa, Stoke, Swansea to see how hard it is to fall on your feet in this league and be challenging straight away.

Give the bloke a bloody break, hes done a great job, he is going to get things wrong of course he is, its his first job, he's learning as he goes. Quite frankly some of the fans who want him sacked, would be better off toddling down the M6 and going to support the Vile.

Anyone would think we are sitting 16th in the club and not having a clue what to do each game.

Can't agree more with this. Yes I think there are some decisions of Moore's that I disagree with but overall he is doing a stand up job. This time last year we were bottom of the premier league with something like 3/4 wins in around 40 games (This hardly improved until DM). Since he took over he gained some dignity back with the final few results in the PL and then mounted a strong promotion push in arguably the most competitive league going. Yes we have a lot of 'premier league stars', as a lot of opposition clubs have said but we all know how little that can really mean. Stoke had a lot of 'premier league' players as have a number of teams over the years but not many are able to bounce straight back up

[OldburyWBA]

Absolutely no chance.

I would bet my house on DM not losing his job before the end of the season.

The only way he loses his job in the summer would be if we exploded now and didn't even make the playoffs, even though I would probably hazard a guess at him still remaining in a job.

DM has dealt with a lot in his time in his first job, steadying a sinking ship that couldn't buy a win in the premier league, dealing with all the chaos in the summer, no club structure, dealing with all the ins and outs, being given a very limited budget to try and mount a promotion challenge, changed the style of play, brought the club together, changed the perception of the club to others, bring back a little bit of pride to be a baggie, has us sitting just off the top 2, 2nd highest scorers in the country, introduced several youth team players into the first team squad.

All that plus more in his first managerial job is incredible. You only have to look at Villa, Stoke, Swansea to see how hard it is to fall on your feet in this league and be challenging straight away.

Give the bloke a bloody break, hes done a great job, he is going to get things wrong of course he is, its his first job, he's learning as he goes. Quite frankly some of the fans who want him sacked, would be better off toddling down the M6 and going to support the Vile.

Anyone would think we are sitting 16th in the club and not having a clue what to do each game.

Excellent post but can we leave the stuff about people going down the road to the villa (or Wolves) out of posts please.

[colinmax]

I can see both sides of the argument as regards playing our strongest team or our youngsters although making Gayle get changed and sit on the bench with no intention of playing him seems unfair on the player.
My main concern is DM's use of substitutes.
Last week he was extolling the virtues of Montero saying how dynamic he is and how difficult he is to mark in fact he is a game changer.
Good teams usually win their home games or at least  try their hardest to do so.
If that is the case why when we were drawing two all with ten minutes to go against Boro did he put Brunt on and not the potential match winner on the bench?

[Hunnington Baggie]

I can see both sides of the argument as regards playing our strongest team or our youngsters although making Gayle get changed and sit on the bench with no intention of playing him seems unfair on the player.
My main concern is DM's use of substitutes.
Last week he was extolling the virtues of Montero saying how dynamic he is and how difficult he is to mark in fact he is a game changer.
Good teams usually win their home games or at least  try their hardest to do so.
If that is the case why when we were drawing two all with ten minutes to go against Boro did he put Brunt on and not the potential match winner on the bench?

becuase Montero had only been here a day and is not a central midfielder? I know Brunt isn’t either but he’s trusted there for one reason or another.

[caravanc58]

becuase Montero had only been here a day and is not a central midfielder? I know Brunt isn’t either but he’s trusted there for one reason or another.

how long the players been at the club shouldn't matter if he's been named in the squad surely.

[Hunnington Baggie]

From the Mirror:-

"West Brom ready to hand head coach Darren Moore a new contract"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-ready-hand-head-13973356

[iwastherein68]

From the Mirror:-

"West Brom ready to hand head coach Darren Moore a new contract"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-ready-hand-head-13973356

Why ? What's the rush?

[Hunnington Baggie]

Why ? What's the rush?

do we actually know the terms of his current contract? might be rolling 1 year so to show faith they'll give him a longer term fixed option for some security.

[TheJacko2000]

From the Mirror:-

"West Brom ready to hand head coach Darren Moore a new contract"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-ready-hand-head-13973356

Great news if true. Nice write up too.

[BoingFlyer]

Great news if true. Nice write up too.

Great write up.

"While the club had resigned themselves to relegation, Moore picked up an impressive 11 points from the final five games.

It was more than his predecessors had managed in the previous 25.

He started last season with no recruitment team, no technical director and Jones arriving two days before the campaign started after his decision to quit the Belgium team."

And people want him sacked

[frazzle]

Fantastic and a good article

[mulliganstired]

We must have a plan for not going up, and Moore taking the young players forward with a few careful signings assuming we lose Rodriguez, Gibbs and Dawson and all the loan players would be my preference.

[Brummie Road]

Great write up.

"While the club had resigned themselves to relegation, Moore picked up an impressive 11 points from the final five games.

It was more than his predecessors had managed in the previous 25.

He started last season with no recruitment team, no technical director and Jones arriving two days before the campaign started after his decision to quit the Belgium team."

And people want him sacked

Totally agree and I'm sure the sensible majority of us (who generally don't have too be online 24/7, attention seeking and having a dig at various club personnel) continue to be bemused at some of the flak Darren Moore's receiving.

Personally I think he's doing a great job and long may it continue.

[johnny Cash]

I wouldn't give him a new contract until the end of the season. We could be clinging to 6th later today with some tricky fixtures coming up. 

I hope he goes on a roll and earns it, but I don't think he has earned it yet.

[BigFrank20]

Totally agree and I'm sure the sensible majority of us (who generally don't have too be online 24/7, attention seeking and having a dig at various club personnel) continue to be bemused at some of the flak Darren Moore's receiving.

Personally I think he's doing a great job and long may it continue.

I must start with offering a 100% agreement with the quoted post above
OK I'm not sure how long the mods will tolerate this post and the replies it may draw but after some of the vitriol flying around, and not necessarily on this board which does tend to self regulate pretty effectively, I feel a need to put out there something that has been bothering me almost since the day Darren's appointment was announced.
I have to wonder how much of the bad mouthing of DM is being driven more by the colour of his skin than his ability as a coach?
It may just be a subconscious or covert thing or perhaps it's more overt?
Because of the very nature of what I am extrapolating here it is something I have been, and still am, reluctant to verbalise openly but this last week has made me think enough is enough especially after the childish attempts by certain parts of the media to racialise the Bong song/chant. We might think we have 'kicked it out' but I have grave doubts if we really have both in football and wider society 
Lets try to keep this sensible guys if you do wish to add your own thoughts to my musings 

[OldburyWBA]

I must start with offering a 100% agreement with the quoted post above
OK I'm not sure how long the mods will tolerate this post and the replies it may draw but after some of the vitriol flying around, and not necessarily on this board which does tend to self regulate pretty effectively, I feel a need to put out there something that has been bothering me almost since the day Darren's appointment was announced.
I have to wonder how much of the bad mouthing of DM is being driven more by the colour of his skin than his ability as a coach?
It may just be a subconscious or covert thing or perhaps it's more overt?
Because of the very nature of what I am extrapolating here it is something I have been, and still am, reluctant to verbalise openly but this last week has made me think enough is enough especially after the childish attempts by certain parts of the media to racialise the Bong song/chant. We might think we have 'kicked it out' but I have grave doubts if we really have both in football and wider society 
Lets try to keep this sensible guys if you do wish to add your own thoughts to my musings

Not sure why you bring skin colour into it, I will leave it for now personally I find it insulting that just because I have criticised the bloke that someone would suggest it is down to his colour. I couldn't give a stuff about that, I was brought up on the Three Degrees, Regis is my all time hero, my daughters boyfriend is black so colour has nothing to do with it at all.

Moore has made some naive errors and has at times repeated those errors which is why he gets criticised, personally I have doubts about the experience he has around him, i'm not convinced Jones is the right man. To be successful you have to learn from mistakes, time wil ltell whether long term Darren does, its his job on the line.

I hate this modern day thing when people of a different sex, colour or sexual orientation are criticised that some (and no i'm not directing this at you) suggest its for "other" reasons, there will be a minority who find fault because of those reasons but those people will have been doing exactly the same their whole lives.

[johnny Cash]

I must start with offering a 100% agreement with the quoted post above
OK I'm not sure how long the mods will tolerate this post and the replies it may draw but after some of the vitriol flying around, and not necessarily on this board which does tend to self regulate pretty effectively, I feel a need to put out there something that has been bothering me almost since the day Darren's appointment was announced.
I have to wonder how much of the bad mouthing of DM is being driven more by the colour of his skin than his ability as a coach?
It may just be a subconscious or covert thing or perhaps it's more overt?
Because of the very nature of what I am extrapolating here it is something I have been, and still am, reluctant to verbalise openly but this last week has made me think enough is enough especially after the childish attempts by certain parts of the media to racialise the Bong song/chant. We might think we have 'kicked it out' but I have grave doubts if we really have both in football and wider society 
Lets try to keep this sensible guys if you do wish to add your own thoughts to my musings

I can't speak for everyone but its certainly nothing to do with race for me, and I've seen nothing on this board to suggest its a race issue. So in that respect you are doing what the media tried to do this week.

For the most part, those like myself who have doubts about Darren Moore the manager have those doubts because we think we have the best team in the league and we are not performing as well as we think we should be (in position and in individual games). That doesn't mean we want him sacked either.

Whether you agree with our stance on our squad or our performances or not, the fact that it is our opinion shouldn't be tough to grasp nor are they so outlandish in a subject as polarising as football that it must be down to something else, such as race.

[BoingFlyer]

I must start with offering a 100% agreement with the quoted post above
OK I'm not sure how long the mods will tolerate this post and the replies it may draw but after some of the vitriol flying around, and not necessarily on this board which does tend to self regulate pretty effectively, I feel a need to put out there something that has been bothering me almost since the day Darren's appointment was announced.
I have to wonder how much of the bad mouthing of DM is being driven more by the colour of his skin than his ability as a coach?
It may just be a subconscious or covert thing or perhaps it's more overt?
Because of the very nature of what I am extrapolating here it is something I have been, and still am, reluctant to verbalise openly but this last week has made me think enough is enough especially after the childish attempts by certain parts of the media to racialise the Bong song/chant. We might think we have 'kicked it out' but I have grave doubts if we really have both in football and wider society 
Lets try to keep this sensible guys if you do wish to add your own thoughts to my musings

The thought had crossed my mind to, but I believe it's a sign of the times we live in. Opinion across everything has become more polarised and entrenched with very few wanting to see the middle ground.

I guess for some they should ask themselves would they trade our manager and position for that of Dean Smith and the seals down they road, and if they would why? Moore is now proven to be a better manager.

[Mikkyk]

The thought had crossed my mind to, but I believe it's a sign of the times we live in. Opinion across everything has become more polarised and entrenched with very few wanting to see the middle ground.

I guess for some they should ask themselves would they trade our manager and position for that of Dean Smith and the seals down they road, and if they would why? Moore is now proven to be a better manager.

It does seem that with every recent manager we have had, including Darren, that a large selection want them out pretty early on. Whether that is accentuated due to Darren's race I don't know.

[frazzle]

The thought had crossed my mind to, but I believe it's a sign of the times we live in. Opinion across everything has become more polarised and entrenched with very few wanting to see the middle ground.

I guess for some they should ask themselves would they trade our manager and position for that of Dean Smith and the seals down they road, and if they would why? Moore is now proven to be a better manager.

I’m a big supporter of Moore but it’s too early to say that he’s proven to be a better manager. That’s why I get so frustrated on this forum - people are too quick to reach a conclusion. Dean Smith is only a few matches in, by this time next season we may have a completely different view. Same for Moore. For my money Moore has done a great job so far, but I didn’t like the way he treated the cup game.

[AlbionFan]

From the Mirror:-

"West Brom ready to hand head coach Darren Moore a new contract"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-ready-hand-head-13973356

I'm genuinely pleased with this, it demonstrates confidence in Darren by the owner and Board and provides stability within the club. I hope he continues to develop as a Head Coach and that, as a result, heis offered many more contracts.

But at the end of the day, it's a football contract and we all know what that means.

Rearrange the following into a well known phrase or saying.
"The" "Worth" "On" "Written" "It's" "Paper" "Not"

[Fritzl Palace]

New contract before seeing whether he has succeeded or failed miserably  standard Albion decision making right there.

We finish outside the top six we this squad. Will people really think he’s done a good job? Seriously?

[BoingFlyer]

New contract before seeing whether he has succeeded or failed miserably  standard Albion decision making right there.

We finish outside the top six we this squad. Will people really think he’s done a good job? Seriously?

It's what many of us expected considering the mess we were in start of the season. Top 6 beats expectations, promotion would be amazing.

[caravanc58]

It's what many of us expected considering the mess we were in start of the season. Top 6 beats expectations, promotion would be amazing.

who's expectations? he's certainly had a mess to sort out following relegation but I'd be disappointed if we didn't finish in the top six. automatic promotion would probably exceed what I expected but top six is a minimum for me.
just my thoughts.

[BoingFlyer]

Don't get me wrong, I would be disappointed if we don't get top 6 and I'm sure Moore would be too.

But judge him ovver the whole season, when he took over from Pardrew. For me he has achieved more than Dean Smith.