WestBrom.com
Off Topic => General Football & Sports => Topic started by: AlbionFan on January 28, 2022, 08:05:25 AM
-
John Percy just tweeted
Andy.Carroll set for medical at West Brom this morning
-
John Percy just tweeted
Andy.Carroll set for medical at West Brom this morning
How exciting…….. not. Fits the remit of the club of course.
-
have we got a song for him yet
-
Entirely predictable but better than Hugill I guess
-
How super.
-
The very definition of desperate. Pathetic.
-
At least he can keep Dike company on the treatment table. What an absolute joke we have become.
-
Even 6ft 4 Andy Carrol will struggle with the aimless hoofs & crosses provided from the other lot.
-
Another aging mercenary looking for an easy buck. If it were cigarette cards we would get the set.
-
He's probably more suited to anything than we currently have playing upfront.
Crosses are of more use to him than the likes of Robinson, Phillips etc.
-
Two positives for me:
Number 1 - for the 45 minutes he will be fit, hes a better option than Hugill and Zohore
Number 2 - see number 1
-
Our recruitment department really are very poor.
-
John Percy just tweeted
Andy.Carroll set for medical at West Brom this morning
Good god, seriously don't believe our club at times.
Bartley turned him inside out the other week, spent more time on the floor munching grass than playing.
We are the laughing stock of this division at the moment.
-
The biggest issue for me is that Val put all his eggs in the Dike basket and seemed pretty assured that he was the missing link that would pull everything together and solve all our issues.
So, looking at Dike's strengths, young, pacey, mobile, fit, these can in no way be applied to Mr. Carroll!
The only attributes they share are, they are good in the air and can finish.
The point is, if Dike was the answer, then his replacement should at least be a similar type of player, not a virtual polar opposite!
It's like we just make it up as we go along and do our scouting by reading the daily papers.
-
If we are keeping Val then the signing makes sense as we may as well have someone up there that can do something with the punts up field. Hardly inspiring though, is it
-
I've read that Carroll will be on 1k per week. How true that is I don't know but if it is true its worth a gamble till the end of the season given that Dike is out for two months, we have no money to speak of, the alternatives are Hugill and Zohore and there are three days left of the transfer window.
I don't know what else people expect, I think we need to understand our current position in the football pyramid.
I've no idea how fit Carroll is but at least he may be able to get on the end of some of our numerous crosses.
What have we got to lose?
-
Well if true, I think he can do a job for us, he is relatively young, he hasn't played that many games through his career due to injuries, he's fit enough to play now so could hit the ground running for us
Ive never been a fan but he does have reasonable ball control can hold up the ball good in the air and has got a bit of attitude and can score goals
I think he will help us in the short term so I will welcome him into our family and credit whoever getting a sort of cf replacement for Dike, he does play well in stripes!
-
Good god, seriously don't believe our club at times.
Bartley turned him inside out the other week, spent more time on the floor munching grass than playing.
We are the laughing stock of this division at the moment.
Great clearance off the line though! ;D
-
I've read that Carroll will be on 1k per week. How true that is I don't know but if it is true its worth a gamble till the end of the season given that Dike is out for two months, we have no money to speak of, the alternatives are Hugill and Zohore and there are three days left of the transfer window.
I don't know what else people expect, I think we need to understand our current position in the football pyramid.
I've no idea how fit Carroll is but at least he may be able to get on the end of some of our numerous crosses.
What have we got to lose?
The Athletic recently ran an article about his move to Reading and quoted the £1,000 per week salary
We'll probably insist he takes £5,000 per week
-
Good luck to him. Has very little movement at the best of times from what I've seen, not known for being a 'presser', suppose the idea is to play off him and chuck loads of high balls at him, sounds wonderful
-
Another aging mercenary looking for an easy buck. If it were cigarette cards we would get the set.
Whilst ordinarily I wouldn’t be overjoyed at this signing I think the fact he played for Reading under the terms he did shows it’s not really about money. The only good thing I can say about the deal is he’s proven himself fit and immediately he’s a better centre forward than anyone else currently that we can pick.
-
We need somebody very short term - Dike will be back before we know it, he doesn't match Dike but if he did he wouldn't be available so easily.
Makes sense, he'll probably bang in a couple and is a far better option than Hugill or Phillips through the middle.
I'm for this BECAUSE OF THE CONTEXT.
-
He's cheap (was on 1k pay to play at Reading) and he could possibly suit Val ball to get his head on hoofs & crosses.
Almost certainly we'll pay him more than Reading did, but if he's a stop gap measure for Dike's return and possibly pay to play then can't really complain...if it doesnt work out we havent lost much. In the short term, he is probably better than Hugill/Zohore.
Reach's eyes have probably lit up, someone to finally get the ball from his long hoofed clearances.
If we give him a long term contract then I will despair of course. As a reminder, the last person we picked up on a free after being jettisoned by Reading was HRK and I don't need to remind any of you how long it took us to finally stop giving him contract extensions!
-
We need somebody very short term - Dike will be back before we know it, he doesn't match Dike but if he did he wouldn't be available so easily.
Makes sense, he'll probably bang in a couple and is a far better option than Hugill or Phillips through the middle.
I'm for this BECAUSE OF THE CONTEXT.
Im OK with this as its another option if he stays fit, which we lack.
I would love it to be that cheap that it leaves a little wiggle room in the overdraft for us to get a bit of creativity in the middle in place of the statue Fantastico, but we all know that ain't happening!
-
Let’s hope he makes a positive difference and scores some goals. Handful at this level when on the pitch and infinitely better than Hugill.
-
Chris Lepkowski Tweeted in response to a question was Carroll Val's signing
Believe he had to be strong armed into it somewhat
-
I think it's a decent signing assuming we are going to continue with the Hoofball. It's been embarrassing watching Phillips, Robinson and Grant duck out of numerous challenges so a physical presence is welcome. Dike aside he'll become the best forward at the club which shows how desperate we are. He's obviously not playing for the money either. I really do think he wants to prove he can still play and keep fit. A 3 year deal at the end of the season. ;D
-
Whilst ordinarily I wouldn’t be overjoyed at this signing I think the fact he played for Reading under the terms he did shows it’s not really about money. The only good thing I can say about the deal is he’s proven himself fit and immediately he’s a better centre forward than anyone else currently that we can pick.
That was Reading mate, we've probably given him a 3yr, 20k a week contract with a further year in his favour! :)
-
Sensible move to bring a player of Carroll's quality in for peanuts on the short term. If it doesn't work out, we've lost nothing compared to the upside the if he can win us a few matches. I'm happy about this as a short term solution. Dike is our future, Carrol is a stop gap and as many have already said, he's got to be a better option than Hugill
-
Why does everyone think that Dike is our future and the answer to our prayers? It really baffles me, he hasn't done anything to warrant these comments. I'd take a fit proven Andy Carroll any day.
-
l will be honest, if we keep him fit he will be an asset. Its the keeping him fit part that is the hard part.
Prefer him upfront to Hugill at the very least
-
Why does everyone think that Dike is our future and the answer to our prayers? It really baffles me, he hasn't done anything to warrant these comments. I'd take a fit proven Andy Carroll any day.
because Dike does have a record of being decent at this level and in the MLS ( which is better nowadays than it’s reputation perceives). That and he is here on a 4 1/2 year deal, he is literally our striker for the future.
-
That was Reading mate, we've probably given him a 3yr, 20k a week contract with a further year in his favour! :)
He is on contract with us until the end of the season
-
He is on contract with us until the end of the season
I know, it was a joke, hence the smiley face. A bit of light-hearted brevity to cut through the gloom. ;)
-
Think Carroll can do a descent job with teams playing a low block against us, he shouldn’t have to expend himself too much. I know one thing opposition defenders won’t like his physical presence and in your face attitude.
-
Sorry but I find this very disappointing. Anyone who watched the Reading match saw a player who is a shadow of his former self. This will end badly
-
Sorry but I find this very disappointing. Anyone who watched the Reading match saw a player who is a shadow of his former self. This will end badly
a month later he scored two worldies that nobody in our squad could do (ok both were disallowed but the point stands). One match isn’t everything, and it’s only to get to the line. It’s not like he’s our marquee striker, it’s a Kean Bryan style stopgap while we wait for our actual marquee striker to be fit again, but hopefully we get a better result from this stopgap.
-
Talking about players constantly absent with injuries, who remembers us taking Jerome Thomas and Giles Barnes for examples, both of whom, before they came to us were always out injured, that's why they came to us.
But that was in the days when we had one of the best Sports Science and Medical Departments in the country and Jerome, in particular, with his bad back, was brilliant for us.
So, what has happened to our Sports Science and Medical Departments?
-
Very comfortably handled by Captain Fantastico and Mr Ballon d'or, tother wick, now expected to fire us to the Prem ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
-
For £1k per week it is worth the gamble and gives us more options with our hoofball style.
If we can keep him fit (which is questionable) I agree he is a great improvement on Hugill or Zohore although I would have also wanted a creative playmaking Number 10 signed during this window but I guess this would be contrary to Valerie’s kick-and-rush policy.
-
a month later he scored two worldies that nobody in our squad could do (ok both were disallowed but the point stands). One match isn’t everything, and it’s only to get to the line. It’s not like he’s our marquee striker, it’s a Kean Bryan style stopgap while we wait for our actual marquee striker to be fit again, but hopefully we get a better result from this stopgap.
Yeah! We can't even score disallowed goals, so that would still be an improvement ;D ;D ;D
-
I think some comments made are based on his more distant past performances. Has he really done anything of worth in the last 2 or 3 years or even longer?
I would ask the question if he is not good enough for Reading why would he be a possible asset for us along with being injury prone.
-
Hey bangkok, it's because we have arguably better players to give him the service he needs
-
I think some comments made are based on his more distant past performances. Has he really done anything of worth in the last 2 or 3 years or even longer?
I would ask the question if he is not good enough for Reading why would he be a possible asset for us along with being injury prone.
I understand Reading wanted him to keep him
-
Surprised he's managed to find his way out of Jonas Olsson's pocket! ;D
-
A player I've always liked and will score goals at this level with some service ( ::)) , he's played on a regular basis at Reading so at least he must be near enough match fit .
The down side for me is no doubt we'll be hoofing from the back to him and going on our game against Reading he can't run that fast these days .
He'll add something but it won't change the critical problems we have elsewhere .
-
Passed his medical according to Val just
-
If Andy Carroll is the answer the club are asking the wrong questions.
What a time to be an Albion fan :-X
-
This could be interesting, stories emerging already this has been foisted on VI :-X
-
This could be interesting, stories emerging already this has been foisted on VI :-X
Well hopefully he wont have to worry about it on Monday.
-
This could be interesting, stories emerging already this has been foisted on VI :-X
If true then Val is basically just caretaker manager till they find his replacement
-
Surprised he's managed to find his way out of Jonas Olsson's pocket! ;D
Totally agree Avon. I remember watching Carroll when he was at his height at Newcastle in the days of Olsson and GMac. Jonas clattered him early on and Carroll just disappeared entirely from the game. Don’t think he likes it rough!
That said, with our ‘hoofball’ style and number of crosses, and being good in the air it might, just might suit his style
PS: we won 3-0 !
-
I well remember that match it was so funny but true
-
I remember that game well. AC had no answer to Jonas.
Saying that he's scored more goals against us than anyone else apparently with 7 goals.
-
This could be interesting, stories emerging already this has been foisted on VI :-X
Any idea where this has come from please? He seemed quite positive about Carroll from the comments I've just read from his pre match press conference.
-
He's a short term fix and cheap to boot. If we can keep him fit he'll offer more than Hugill, downside is that we'll continue with the loftball experiment.
-
Any idea where this has come from please? He seemed quite positive about Carroll from the comments I've just read from his pre match press conference.
Yep seemed happy to have him.
-
a month later he scored two worldies that nobody in our squad could do (ok both were disallowed but the point stands). One match isn’t everything, and it’s only to get to the line. It’s not like he’s our marquee striker, it’s a Kean Bryan style stopgap while we wait for our actual marquee striker to be fit again, but hopefully we get a better result from this stopgap.
Hope he proves me wrong Hunnington. Any talented player beyond his best can string together the odd good goal in the course of a season, especially at this level. However, on what I saw admittedly in only one match) he looked poor. That being said if we was a world beater he would not have been on a limited contract at Reading.
-
Totally agree Avon. I remember watching Carroll when he was at his height at Newcastle in the days of Olsson and GMac. Jonas clattered him early on and Carroll just disappeared entirely from the game. Don’t think he likes it rough!
That said, with our ‘hoofball’ style and number of crosses, and being good in the air it might, just might suit his style
PS: we won 3-0 !
Didn't Paul Scharner go right through the back of him from nearly the first ball of the game in one match too?. Didn't hear a peep out of him for the rest of the match ;) Also remember Olsson flicking his pony tail as he we sat on his backside. ;D ;D ;D- Happier times
-
Chapman saying that Val said AC should be playing for us tommorow so must assume deal is done just waiting for announcement.
-
Any idea where this has come from please? He seemed quite positive about Carroll from the comments I've just read from his pre match press conference.
Probably something made up to fuel the situation as opposed to the actual truth.....
-
Any idea where this has come from please? He seemed quite positive about Carroll from the comments I've just read from his pre match press conference.
Lepko was the first I saw of it.
-
Cut that pony tail off please!
-
Totally agree Avon. I remember watching Carroll when he was at his height at Newcastle in the days of Olsson and GMac. Jonas clattered him early on and Carroll just disappeared entirely from the game. Don’t think he likes it rough!
That said, with our ‘hoofball’ style and number of crosses, and being good in the air it might, just might suit his style
PS: we won 3-0 !
I remember this well. He barely had a sniff for the rest of the game.
I do also remember Carroll playing a blinder against us at the hawthorns to though. I don't know who it was for, but I think he hit the bar 3 times. It was one of the odd occasions where I've seen Carroll and understood why people have thought so highly of him. He was never able to reach those levels anywhere near enough even when he was fit, but on his day he was some player.
I cant imagine he needs the money either, so if he is playing for £1/2k a week at this stage then I expect its because he at least has desire to play. That's more than most of those who turned out on wednesday.
-
I'm not really sure what to make of this one. Only 6 goals in the last 5 years, but ultimately cheap and available (and not requiring the scouts to look beyond their small contact book) which seems to be the criteria.
In one sense he suits Val - he is a genuine centre forward with presence who can hold the ball up. In another sense, he is 33 with a poor injury track record and how does that work if Val wants his front 3 to press?
Add in to the mix Ismael looking like a dead man walking, if Val goes and we get a manager who plays a more traditional style with a functioning midfield then Hugill comes back into the mix and might become the better option.
I suppose in the end the club have decided its a low risk gamble that's worth trying for the short term and one they can afford to write off. Reading fans have been very complementary, 2 goals in 8 games for them while they haven't been on form with the concensus being he worked hard. Then there are those 2 worldies that were disallowed.
I won't get my hopes up, but he was a bundle of aggresive energy in his younger years (which I do love in a striker).
-
Cut that pony tail off please!
What do you find under a ponies tail? ;D
-
I remember this well. He barely had a sniff for the rest of the game.
I do also remember Carroll playing a blinder against us at the hawthorns to though. I don't know who it was for, but I think he hit the bar 3 times. It was one of the odd occasions where I've seen Carroll and understood why people have thought so highly of him. He was never able to reach those levels anywhere near enough even when he was fit, but on his day he was some player.
I cant imagine he needs the money either, so if he is playing for £1/2k a week at this stage then I expect its because he at least has desire to play. That's more than most of those who turned out on wednesday.
2010 FA cup game maybe? He scored 2 great goals for Newcastle while we had Dorrans at his best in a 4-2 win. Carroll was their best player that day, he never quite reached those heights again at the Hawthorns after Scharner, Olsson and Macauley bullied him a bit in later games.
-
Chris Lepowski has raised doubts about if Val wants Carroll and had to be persuaded.
If there is any truth in it then it doesnt bode well for Ismael.
That said i take a lot of what Lepowski says with a pinch of salt, he is very negative towards the albion about pretty much everything, even positive stuff he usually finds a negative to pick at, shame as i always thought he was very good when he covered us officially.
-
This has to be a complete joke! Carroll was past it at this level a long time ago. Judging by his recent display for Reading, I've seen some traffic wardens move faster than him. Has, give me a last payday written all over it. We must be desparate!
-
because Dike does have a record of being decent at this level and in the MLS ( which is better nowadays than it’s reputation perceives). That and he is here on a 4 1/2 year deal, he is literally our striker for the future.
Sorry to be so cynical but i have seen and heard it all before. No need to list the players we all now who i am on about!! Let's just wait and see how he fairs after his injury!!
-
If Andy Carroll is the answer the club are asking the wrong questions.
What a time to be an Albion fan :-X
I’m amazed how many are so dismissive of someone who hasn’t kicked a ball for us yet,whilst there still appears to be a number of folk who will defend this “manager†despite proving in many occasions he ain’t up to it..
-
Big sam getting the band back together :-*
-
Chris Lepkowski Tweeted in response to a question was Carroll Val's signing
Believe he had to be strong armed into it somewhat
He has no more insider knowledge than most on this forum...and he’s a bit bitter.
-
Val says in his presser he wants to get back to 'energy and intensity'.
With Andy Carroll? :'(
-
From a West Brom supporter who has tried his hardest to take the urine and give you stick every time you played against us, may I now sincerely wish you all the best, and many goals for at least the rest of the season. Hypocritical maybe, but good luck Andy, welcome to the club which once had the reputation for the best and most intelligent supporters in the country. How times change. :(
-
Released by Reading. Signed by WBA. Is this really where we are now?
-
From a West Brom supporter who has tried his hardest to take the urine and give you stick every time you played against us, may I now sincerely wish you all the best, and many goals for at least the rest of the season. Hypocritical maybe, but good luck Andy, welcome to the club which once had the reputation for the best and most intelligent supporters in the country. How times change. :(
Here here👍
-
Released by Reading. Signed by WBA. Is this really where we are now?
Now?? We done the same with HRK years ago ;D ;D
To be fair, Reading wanted to keep him
"Andy Carroll is somebody we must have here in order to go through this difficult period. He showed his spirit, his fighting mentality, he never gave up and [showed] his qualities.
"The team played a lot for him in the first half. We still have to improve on that and it would be massive if he stayed.
"We made him a contract offer - the best possible - and now we await his response."
-
I agree worth the gamble if not too expensive. He will be better than Hughill if he can stay on the pitch.
-
Really fellas?
Does anybody really think that Andy Carol is the answer?
Seriously?
I can only think we've got a treatment table going spare and we've got Andy in for the apprentice Physio to practice on.
We really are a shambles of a club.
Spin it any way you like, this is a panic buy/loan/gift whatever.
Can we sink any lower?
What's Bully doing? :'( :'(
-
Why does everyone think that Dike is our future and the answer to our prayers? It really baffles me, he hasn't done anything to warrant these comments. I'd take a fit proven Andy Carroll any day.
So would most of us in our current circumstances I suspect. The problem is that the Andy Carroll you are referring to was about a decade ago. The current version is slow, very injury prone and generally useless. He will be a complete failure of a signing. Call me a fence sitter if you want, but that's my opinion :D
-
Am I excited by this signing, no not really.
But we need a striker and with the club only paying one transfer fee in the last two windows thanks to our wonderful owner, I don't see what choice the recruitment department could take.
-
Really fellas?
Does anybody really think that Andy Carol is the answer?
Seriously?
I can only think we've got a treatment table going spare and we've got Andy in for the apprentice Physio to practice on.
We really are a shambles of a club.
Spin it any way you like, this is a panic buy/loan/gift whatever.
Can we sink any lower?
What's Bully doing? :'( :'(
If the question is "who is a good short term replacement for Dike" then yes
-
If the question is "who is a good short term replacement for Dike" then yes
If you leave out the word "good" from your question, and substitute "terrible", "desperate" or "pathetic" it would be more accurate
-
We've spent £7m on a striker, and it looks incredibly likely we will be spending at least another season at this level. Few comments have said we put all our eggs in one basket with Dike. Would they have preferred we signed two £3.5m strikers or sign quality with a longer term view in mind.
The Dike injury was terrible luck and Carroll is a 8-10 week cheap gamble to plug a gap. What expectations did some people have?
-
We've spent £7m on a striker, and it looks incredibly likely we will be spending at least another season at this level. Few comments have said we put all our eggs in one basket with Dike. Would they have preferred we signed two £3.5m strikers or sign quality with a longer term view in mind.
The Dike injury was terrible luck and Carroll is a 8-10 week cheap gamble to plug a gap. What expectations did some people have?
Neymar, obviously!
-
Released by Reading. Signed by WBA. Is this really where we are now?
Also wanted by Burnley presumably as a stop gap solution to losing Wood .
-
We've spent £7m on a striker, and it looks incredibly likely we will be spending at least another season at this level. Few comments have said we put all our eggs in one basket with Dike. Would they have preferred we signed two £3.5m strikers or sign quality with a longer term view in mind.
The Dike injury was terrible luck and Carroll is a 8-10 week cheap gamble to plug a gap. What expectations did some people have?
None at all unfortunately
-
Announced on Instagram
-
Welcome to the club Andy
-
Deal until end of season and eligible to play tommorow according to OS
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/albion-confirm-carroll-capture
-
Could be a decent signing, fingers crossed he avoids injuries! How come he didn't stay at Reading? Their fans seem to think a lot of him and he played regularly?
-
Could be a decent signing, fingers crossed he avoids injuries! How come he didn't stay at Reading? Their fans seem to think a lot of him and he played regularly?
He didn't want too. They offered him a new deal but he said no.
-
Could be a decent signing, fingers crossed he avoids injuries! How come he didn't stay at Reading? Their fans seem to think a lot of him and he played regularly?
He was out of contract and free to negotiate with others
-
Any idea where this has come from please? He seemed quite positive about Carroll from the comments I've just read from his pre match press conference.
A couple of comments on social media, one of which is right more than he’s wrong but whether a genuine ITK I have no idea
-
The kind of singing that screams we’ll still be whacking balls high and into the box.
Thing is, I like him, honest pro who’s had some very good games for Reading and if he can find his touch will score. I worry he won’t get enough chances with the way Val plays mind.
-
Think it’s a shrewd signing myself.
We are so lightweight we need someone who can plug a gap till the end of the season.
Welcome to the club Andy
-
Welcome to West Bromwich Albion Mr. Carroll. May your goals and assists be plentiful and your boos be few. I'm sure you'll be made to feel both welcome and appreciated by some, man worshipped by others and derided as a useless waste of money by the rest 8) .
-
Welcome to West Bromwich Albion Mr. Carroll. May your goals and assists be plentiful and your boos be few. I'm sure you'll be made to feel both welcome and appreciated by some, man worshipped by others and derided as a useless waste of money by the rest 8) .
Just like every other signing in the last 10 years then :D ;D
-
I'm told he's worth £20million
So to my mind for this so called £1000 per week deal tells me he wants to come and play, because he don't need the money
-
Got a good feeling about this ,welcome Andy
-
If he can find any form he is better than hugil who we now need to send back
-
The kind of singing that screams we’ll still be whacking balls high and into the box.
Thing is, I like him, honest pro who’s had some very good games for Reading and if he can find his touch will score. I worry he won’t get enough chances with the way Val plays mind.
yep, because Valball is famous for its inability to create chances.
-
This deal could be better than many are saying he hasn't come here for a huge payday he will want to do well and put himself back in the shop window for next season so having a player committed will be a novelty.
Quite who many think we would sign in a 3 to 4-day time limit I have no idea especially as the club would be viewing it as short-term.
-
Do not ignore the fact that he is very talented on the ground and not limited to heading the ball.We are in a desperate situation and without a lot of money for transfers this gamble is justified without too much of a downside.
-
Wouldn’t it be fantastic if we were able to sign a target number 9 striker for £50m, or £25m or even £10m. Truth is, financially we are not in that spending league thanks to our Owner and previous owners for that matter.
We have a big gap up front that needs filling and hopefully, with fingers and everything else crossed, Andy Carroll may help fill that gap.
Positives:
*It is reported to be only costing us £1000 per week for about 15 weeks = £15k
*Being only paid £1k per week he obviously is playing because he wants to play and not for money
*Reading wanted to keep him but his contract with them ended mid-January
*Reading fans wanted to keep him applauding his contribution over eight games and two goals.
*He is good in the air and holding the ball as a target man and praised by managers
*He has to be a better option than the likes of Hugill and Zohore
*His contract is only to the end of the season so no real financial commitment
*Yes, he will probably be on a bonus scheme for goals scored and assists but what the hell if we get results
*Having played recently, he will, or should, hit the ground running unlike Dike who was played too soon
Negatives
*He’s 33 and no doubt not as quick or as energetic as he was in his heyday
*He is injury prone and that is a gamble but not a lot of money on the table
*It could be him looking for a last ‘pay-day’ (not very big though) but if that was the case, why not stay at Reading closer to his Essex home.
Although would love a Neymar we ain’t in that market - silly to write him off before he’s kicked a ball, time will tell with Mr Carroll.
-
If he can find any form he is better than hugil who we now need to send back
Remains to be seen. If Val wants to put the emphasis on 'intensity and energy' he might be better off with Hugill.
-
Just a thought, would AC put any more fans through the gates do we think?
I think he might
-
Interesting interview, says he know Snodgrass, Hugill and Grady. No-one told hime Snodgrass is in the dungeon and Hugill has joined him !
-
Wouldn’t it be fantastic if we were able to sign a target number 9 striker for £50m, or £25m or even £10m. Truth is, financially we are not in that spending league thanks to our Owner and previous owners for that matter.
We have a big gap up front that needs filling and hopefully, with fingers and everything else crossed, Andy Carroll may help fill that gap.
Positives:
*It is reported to be only costing us £1000 per week for about 15 weeks = £15k
*Being only paid £1k per week he obviously is playing because he wants to play and not for money
*Reading wanted to keep him but his contract with them ended mid-January
*Reading fans wanted to keep him applauding his contribution over eight games and two goals.
*He is good in the air and holding the ball as a target man and praised by managers
*He has to be a better option than the likes of Hugill and Zohore
*His contract is only to the end of the season so no real financial commitment
*Yes, he will probably be on a bonus scheme for goals scored and assists but what the hell if we get results
*Having played recently, he will, or should, hit the ground running unlike Dike who was played too soon
Negatives
*He’s 33 and no doubt not as quick or as energetic as he was in his heyday
*He is injury prone and that is a gamble but not a lot of money on the table
*It could be him looking for a last ‘pay-day’ (not very big though) but if that was the case, why not stay at Reading closer to his Essex home.
Although would love a Neymar we ain’t in that market - silly to write him off before he’s kicked a ball, time will tell with Mr Carroll.
I haven't seen this reported anywhere. It was reported (?) that was what he was on at Reading, but he rejected staying with them.
-
I haven't seen this reported anywhere. It was reported (?) that was what he was on at Reading, but he rejected staying with them.
I can guarantee it will still be a damn site less than Big Ken is getting for sitting in his pants at home.
-
Yes he was on 1k a week at reading but definitely on more with us now. One of the local journos said it's still an inexpensive deal though. Imagine he will get a chunky bonus if we get promoted.
-
If you leave out the word "good" from your question, and substitute "terrible", "desperate" or "pathetic" it would be more accurate
8 in 2 plus a disallowed screamer against Fulham suggests otherwise
-
I remember that game well. AC had no answer to Jonas.
Saying that he's scored more goals against us than anyone else apparently with 7 goals.
Jonas may not have been the complete footballer but he was 6"5 of utter Swedish shithousery and AC just had no idea how to get away from him. He wont face many defenders of Jonas quality over the remainder of this season.
-
8 in 2 plus a disallowed screamer against Fulham suggests otherwise
1 in 49 prior to that - yes, I know that was in the PL. Also he is very injury prone. My deep suspicion is that he will either get injured early doors or will leave his scoring boots (such as they are) at Reading.
By the way, if he'd scored 8 in 2 at Reading I'd be rolling out the red carpet. ;D. But I know what you meant.
-
We've made worse signings in our time!
-
Personally I think it is a poor signing but lets give the lad a chance. This time tomorrow he could be our new hero.......
-
8 in 2 plus a disallowed screamer against Fulham suggests otherwise
The manager and club could have announced the signing of Messi today and we would haver posters criticising his age and wage demands. There is a segment of our fan base that are thoroughly enjoying having huge rant 24/7. Frustrated they couldn't moan when we beat Peterborough (although they still tried) and have gone crazy since we played terribly against Preston and lost our first home game of the season (ending a new club unbeaten record).
I have been impressed with our transfer business in what is a difficult January window. Did great to get Dike in at the start of the window when every other club struggles to sign players until deadline day and have now reacted to the really unlucky injury to him to bring in a very decent short term option.
-
Cheap and better than Hugill. Will suit Valball, assuming our CH's can actually hit him with the ball and not overhit it by 30 yards. He won't be outpacing any defenders.
Will take that.
-
Cheap and better than Hugill. Will suit Valball, assuming our CH's can actually hit him with the ball and not overhit it by 30 yards. He won't be outpacing any defenders.
Will take that.
That is the other angle, regardless of who the club signed, they can't be any worse than Hugill; instant upgrade. You are right he won't be running past anyone but teams like to drop off against us and defend their box. He should be a nuisance at a minimum in the 18 yard box. I recall him having a hammer (no pun intended) of a left foot. He has had so many injuries he is probably bionic by now as well.
-
Got a good feeling about this ,welcome Andy
I had a better feeling about Sturridge, Anelka and Lambert arriving.
-
The manager and club could have announced the signing of Messi today and we would haver posters criticising his age and wage demands. There is a segment of our fan base that are thoroughly enjoying having huge rant 24/7. Frustrated they couldn't moan when we beat Peterborough (although they still tried) and have gone crazy since we played terribly against Preston and lost our first home game of the season (ending a new club unbeaten record).
I have been impressed with our transfer business in what is a difficult January window. Did great to get Dike in at the start of the window when every other club struggles to sign players until deadline day and have now reacted to the really unlucky injury to him to bring in a very decent short term option.
Don't know if you are including me in that, but I have consistently argued that Val needs to be given time. I also didn't go overboard about the Preston game even though it was a very poor performance. But I still don't think that AC is a good signing !!
-
He cannot possibly be worse than hugill or zohore so in that context he's fine. Not really convinced he suits what we want that much with his lack of.mobiloty, but our high pressing from the front has been dying off all season anyway.
If nothing else at lead reading fans are gutted he left, showing he has something about him still.
-
He cannot possibly be worse than hugill or zohore so in that context he's fine. Not really convinced he suits what we want that much with his lack of.mobiloty, but our high pressing from the front has been dying off all season anyway.
If nothing else at lead reading fans are gutted he left, showing he has something about him still.
I just checked on their site and you are quite correct, they were very impressed with him and his attitude.
-
Don't know if you are including me in that, but I have consistently argued that Val needs to be given time. I also didn't go overboard about the Preston game even though it was a very poor performance. But I still don't think that AC is a good signing !!
No Timdon, wasn't thinking of you at all. With AC - who can say, always risk with transfers but he has got to be better than Hugill and Reading fans took to him.
-
I had a better feeling about Sturridge, Anelka and Lambert arriving.
30 minutes of watching Anelka play on his debut and I knew it was a disaster. He had zero interest and was chilling out on the half-way line. Lambert we signed five years too late. Sturridge might have worked had we not decided to play him in a dead rubber game away at Chelsea where his hamstring went.
Loads of January signings that don't work out - horrible time to get somebody in at short notice who can hit the ground running. I'm much happier we have got Andy Carroll in with all of this experience than somebody not used to the league. We just need to hope he stays match fit and that Robinson / Grant can play off him. On paper it should be a good mix of his power and their trickery.
-
No Timdon, wasn't thinking of you at all. With AC - who can say, always risk with transfers but he has got to be better than Hugill and Reading fans took to him.
Can't argue with that but it's a very low bar ;D ;D.
-
Can't say I'm overwhelmed by this transfer, but he's here so we support him.
Hope he proves me wrong.
Is that his caravan on the club car park?
-
AC sounds quite positive in his Express & Dingle article
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/01/28/gallery-andy-carroll-insists-hes-joined-west-brom-to-win-promotion/
-
I had a better feeling about Sturridge, Anelka and Lambert arriving.
TBH Alex, I'm pretty indifferent about Andy Carroll, if it works, great, if it doesn't it's been a low cost experiment, certainly worth trying.
Of the three players you mentioned, only Lambert was worth the risk, IMO.
I wouldn't have touched the other two with a barge pole.
-
If he has come on comparatively low wages, he was on £1,000 per week at Reading according to The Athletic, he hasn’t joined us for the last payday
The lad wants to play football, that what is motivating him, as he is already a multimillionaire
-
You know what, it sounds like he actually wants to play football so I'm willing to get behind him those 2 (disallowed) worldies showed there might still be some life left in those boots. He's received a lot of boo's and stick at the hawthorns over the years so would be very poetic if he comes good and fires us to promotion and at the end of the day, half crocked, he is better than Zohore and Hugill.
Do Do Do Andy F'n Caroll ;D
-
Well I must say that in the training pictures he looks trim, ready to go relaxed and happy
All good signs that he's been accepted by the group it may well be that now he's passed what I assume was a thorough medical that he's ready to go against Millwall, good luck to him I say, I hope he will surprise us all and get some goals if he does so in this cameo roll he could become a hit with our fans.
Is O'Shea fit and ready to play?
Imagine our corner er routines should scare a few opponents, starting tomorrow!
-
Is there a report anywhere that suggests he is on the same 1k a week as he was on at Reading? (Not saying that isn’t true - I just haven’t seen that anywhere and a lot of people are saying it.)
Look, at the moment I couldn’t care who we sign. I’ve lost complete love for the club at the moment - the atmosphere after the Preston game has left a lingering effect and it’s sad.
However, like many others have said, I don’t think this is a bad signing. Sure he’ll do okay - it’s just indicative of where we are as a club. I think we must the most basic scouting network of any club anywhere near this level; Val’s mates from Barnsley and ‘has-beens’ from the Prem on loans and free transfers. We never knew how good we had it with Ashworth’s network.
-
Not sure if it has been posted earlier but,
Andy Carroll cleared to make West Brom debut vs Millwall
-
Is there a report anywhere that suggests he is on the same 1k a week as he was on at Reading? (Not saying that isn’t true - I just haven’t seen that anywhere and a lot of people are saying it.)
Look, at the moment I couldn’t care who we sign. I’ve lost complete love for the club at the moment - the atmosphere after the Preston game has left a lingering effect and it’s sad.
However, like many others have said, I don’t think this is a bad signing. Sure he’ll do okay - it’s just indicative of where we are as a club. I think we must the most basic scouting network of any club anywhere near this level; Val’s mates from Barnsley and ‘has-beens’ from the Prem on loans and free transfers. We never knew how good we had it with Ashworth’s network.
I would suspect he is on a fair bit more than he was at Reading
£1000 per week was all they were allowed to pay, according to the business plan they agreed when they were hit with the 6 point deduction for breaking finance regulations
-
Rather than paying Carroll a bigger basic, I imagine the sensible deal is to heavily incentivise him.
-
Impressed by the interview and the comments from the readi f fans he has come for next to no money he wants to play and score goals. His pockets probably deep enough. Cant do any worse than hugil
-
Rather than paying Carroll a bigger basic, I imagine the sensible deal is to heavily incentivise him.
Yes, you'd think the price of a new Bentley or Aston Martin would be a decent incentive.
-
Impressed by the interview and the comments from the readi f fans he has come for next to no money he wants to play and score goals. His pockets probably deep enough. Cant do any worse than hugil
I agree. I’d say he is on a fair bit more than 1k a week - but still can’t imagine too much for a striker at this level judging by his comments.
-
Yes, you'd think the price of a new Bentley or Aston Martin would be a decent incentive.
Maybe he’s thinking he has everything he needs, but also understands that the only thing he knows he’s good at is coming to an end. The game is saturated with players that can offer more in the latter days of there careers, but lose out enjoying what they’re good at, and prefer to stagnate and fade away at clubs that no longer need them.
-
I've read that Carroll will be on 1k per week. How true that is I don't know but if it is true its worth a gamble till the end of the season given that Dike is out for two months, we have no money to speak of, the alternatives are Hugill and Zohore and there are three days left of the transfer window.
I don't know what else people expect, I think we need to understand our current position in the football pyramid.
I've no idea how fit Carroll is but at least he may be able to get on the end of some of our numerous crosses.
What have we got to lose?
I would have thought his 1k a week at Reading was his basic minimum though now he has proved his fitness that's no doubt been negotiated up plus appearance, assists, goals and promotion bonuses.
-
Released by Reading. Signed by WBA. Is this really where we are now?
No, Reading wanted him to stay:
https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/andy-carroll-west-brom-transfer-22916921
The former Newcastle United and West Ham striker scored twice during his temporary stay with Reading FC but has now joined West Bromwich Albion until the end of the season
Andy Carroll says he has no doubt over signing for West Bromwich Albion from the moment he heard of interest, walking away from a contract offer and “almost daily†calls from Reading FC.
Veljko Paunovic told the media on Thursday that the Royals were still waiting to hear from the big number nine over what would come next for his future after scoring twice during his short-term stay in Berkshire.
"We follow up almost daily with him. We want to be respectful but let him know we want him back so we keep reminding him,†said the manager.
But less than 36 hours later, Carroll was announced as a West Brom player after putting pen to paper on a contract with one of Reading’s Championship rivals - adding that ‘there was only one thing to do’ once he heard of the Baggies' interest.
“I’m absolutely delighted,†he said, speaking to West Bromwich Albion ’s club website.
“It’s a great club and I’m hoping there are good things to come.
“When I heard of the interest I thought there was only one thing to do, and that was to drive up here and sign straight away.
“I’ve met the players and I know a few of them already as well. I spoke to the manager yesterday and today. It’s all good and I’m looking forward to getting started.
“I played against the team already this season and I thought they were brilliant. There were a lot of balls in the box and chances created.
“Looking at all the games there’s always chances at West Brom and I believe I can get on the end of them to get some goals and some points for the lads.
“I don’t think I’d be playing football if I didn’t think that I could still contribute. My boots would have been hung up and I’d be on a beach somewhere"
“But that’s not me. I want to be here, I want to play football and I want to score goals. That’s what I’ve wanted to do all of my career and that’s what I’m here to do.â€
Despite their failed Carroll pursuit, Reading are still hopeful that they will complete deals before deadline day.
As a short term signing I really don't see what the problem is, we need a striker in to cover Dike until he is ready, the one's we've got aren't up to it; we go and get someone in.
-
Maybe he’s thinking he has everything he needs, but also understands that the only thing he knows he’s good at is coming to an end. The game is saturated with players that can offer more in the latter days of there careers, but lose out enjoying what they’re good at, and prefer to stagnate and fade away at clubs that no longer need them.
Contracts negotiated for them are too good, too many are happy to sit on a bench or just be in the background as long as that fat cheque is guaranteed every month, they have given up the love of playing for the greenback.
It's a pleasant change to have a player who actually wants to get on the football field and give 100% I would take that anyday over the Anelka's of this world.
-
He's cheap (was on 1k pay to play at Reading) and he could possibly suit Val ball to get his head on hoofs & crosses.
He should be paying us.
-
This is a contract that has very limited downside risk and a lot of upside. Carroll is excellent in the air and he creates havoc for others to exploit. He is also skilful. At this level he has something to offer us. It could be an inspired signing.
-
I don’t get the negativity here. We need a forward who knows where the back of the net is, how many options do we have?
By all accounts he’s not being paid a huge amount so he clearly wants to play instead of sitting at home and counting his money.
Posters have been saying that he’s not the player he was but if he was still that player he wouldn’t be playing for us!
-
I don’t get the negativity here. We need a forward who knows where the back of the net is, how many options do we have?
By all accounts he’s not being paid a huge amount so he clearly wants to play instead of sitting at home and counting his money.
Posters have been saying that he’s not the player he was but if he was still that player he wouldn’t be playing for us!
Belgium, some people on here would moan if we’d signed a Ronaldo or Neymar.
Yes, it’s a gamble but not an expensive gamble and certainly better than the alternative options within the squad. I don’t get it either!
PS: whereabouts in Belgium are you?
-
Some stats from Albion Analytics on Andy Carroll's time at Reading.
Look away now if you are of a nervous disposition 8)
https://twitter.com/AnalyticsWba/status/1487120605933715457
-
Some stats from Albion Analytics on Andy Carroll's time at Reading.
Look away now if you are of a nervous disposition 8)
https://twitter.com/AnalyticsWba/status/1487120605933715457
I can't be doing with these stats the only stat that counts is how many he sticks in the onion bag.
-
Listening to his interview, he comes across very positive, and not sounding like he's here for a final payday. Even though I still think he has his limitations, especially regarding speed and sharpness, at least he sounds like he has the right attitude.
-
Listening to his interview, he comes across very positive, and not sounding like he's here for a final payday. Even though I still think he has his limitations, especially regarding speed and sharpness, at least he sounds like he has the right attitude.
That's exactly what they say at Reading Alex, he has a really good attitude. So despite my initial reservations and given the context of the signing, I hope he comes good.
-
That's exactly what they say at Reading Alex, he has a really good attitude. So despite my initial reservations and given the context of the signing, I hope he comes good.
I think we all hope he comes good.
Would he have been first choice with a younger, fitter, proven goal scorer available to us? Probably not.
We don't have many if any options available to us.
-
because Dike does have a record of being decent at this level and in the MLS ( which is better nowadays than it’s reputation perceives). That and he is here on a 4 1/2 year deal, he is literally our striker for the future.
Erm.... no. The standard was much better 3 years ago. Since then cheap below average imports from South America have sent the overall quality backwards.
-
Carrol the best of a bad bunch today. He kept their defenders in a game won freekicks caused chaos we just failed to utilize him and create anything but thats based on the personnel being used in the system otherwise a new system required
-
Carrol the best of a bad bunch today. He kept their defenders in a game won freekicks caused chaos we just failed to utilize him and create anything but thats based on the personnel being used in the system otherwise a new system required
Had our best chance too and put himself about both up front and at the back.
-
I can't be doing with these stats the only stat that counts is how many he sticks in the onion bag.
We are all differently, thankfully ;D 8)
-
Contracts negotiated for them are too good, too many are happy to sit on a bench or just be in the background as long as that fat cheque is guaranteed every month, they have given up the love of playing for the greenback.
It's a pleasant change to have a player who actually wants to get on the football field and give 100% I would take that anyday over the Anelka's of this world.
Well if someone offered me 10k a week to do very little….I’ll tell them that morally I don’t think it’s right.
-
In his interview he said he was looking forward to joining as he knew a couple of the lads already......Snodgrass and Hugill :) Did he already know Val too :D
-
Good to see him put a shift in at Millwall. One of few players who didn't hide in plain sight, pity the keeper kept his early shot out. Here's to him getting on the score sheet soon 8) .
-
Strange that we sign AC and then do what we did to Snodgrass. His delivery of the ball would have been perfect for him.
-
Snodgrass should never have been signed, waste of resources.
-
Just a bit of praise for Carroll who I thought worked his socks off against Blackburn. Wasn’t too pleased when we signed him but is certainly putting the effort in all over the pitch and is still very good with his feet.
Now if only we’d resort back to putting balls into the box again like we’d been doing under Val now that we’ve got a genuine ball winner up front.
-
Could AC and Dike play together if so when and would it be too late then to get into play offs?
-
Could AC and Dike play together if so when and would it be too late then to get into play offs?
Dike is back end of March i believe but we have a 2 week gap then so his first game back is expected to be Blues on April 2nd.
-
He’s been our only player above a 6 out of 10 these last few weeks.
I think for us to score goals - or a goal - again we need to get a much better delivery into the box. We don’t have wingers so 352 may have to be the way. The front 3 against Blackburn looked fairly disconnected.
-
Yep he was fighting far more than some players I’d expect to see more fight from
-
Sounds a daft thing to say about a £35m rated player, but I'm really impressed with his close control. I was fearing that he was going to be here for a last payday. Working in Reading I was waiting for the locals to rue him leaving them but I've hardly heard a peep, which also concerned me. As the guys have stated above, he seems to have more drive and desire than some of our 'regulars'. On top of his performance against Blackburn, he was trying to gee up the players in the SU game after we conceded which is more than can be said for our captain.....
-
He's a battler and a focal point but he is very immobile. For a team who are struggling to advance the ball up the pitch, he isn't going to be able to do much 40 yards from goal. Bruce will likely try to find a way of connecting him with more mobile players but I'm not really sure what that would look like.
-
He's a battler and a focal point but he is very immobile. For a team who are struggling to advance the ball up the pitch, he isn't going to be able to do much 40 yards from goal. Bruce will likely try to find a way of connecting him with more mobile players but I'm not really sure what that would look like.
I wondered if I had been watching a different player with all the praise that seems to be going around for AC. He’s been nothing short of average as far as I’ve seen. Very immobile, terrible passing and I can’t say I’ve seen much to shout about of his hold up play when the ball is in to feet.
-
When Dike is fit, they should both be in the team to make the difference.
-
Impressed with what I’ve seen of him so far total nuisance for central defenders and great in our box at defending set play’s, need to play to his strength’s so fullbacks need to get to byline and put in some descent crosses for him to attack.
-
I can see Mr. Carroll snotting someone if he doesn't get better service soon. Just a feeling ;D .
-
Article involving Andy and how the player’s are responding to Bruce and some of his training methods, coach like’s five and six aside’s which he states group are enjoying. Need a happy camp to get the best out of team so hopefully upward and onward, at the end gave Grant a bit of slap by saying that worst player of session has to bring in shampoo next day and Carlan has been supplying a lot.
-
That did me make laugh tbf when I read it yesterday. Said Grant is frequently the worst player in training which is no real surprise, still made me laugh though
-
That did me make laugh tbf when I read it yesterday. Said Grant is frequently the worst player in training which is no real surprise, still made me laugh though
Rinse and repeat by the sound of things, while I think about it Karlan looks like he could do with some extra conditioning too to be perfectly honest.
-
Rinse and repeat by the sound of things, while I think about it Karlan looks like he could do with some extra conditioning too to be perfectly honest.
He's got the same physique as me pretty much which aint great for a pro! ;D
-
Just our luck when Andy Carroll will header any chance in for other clubs but as soon as he signs for us he can't score from a headed chance. Great physical and mental effort though. He's trying.
-
He’s been our best player since signing but everybody around him has been dire. His lack of a goal isn’t on him.
-
At 33 years of age, with his best days behind him and on the downward slop his quality is head and shoulders above any other of our outfield lot.
MOM easily, in terms of effort, commitment, desire, quality and every other footballing attribute
-
Giving his all. Other players should look at his examples stop feeling sorry for themselves and pull their heads out their backside.
-
Giving his all. Other players should look at his examples stop feeling sorry for themselves and pull their heads out their backside.
Forgot to mention, he is probably on “peanuts†compared to the wages of our other “stars†and if he was only in £1,000 a week at Reading, there would be no way we are paying him much more than that
-
Forgot to mention, he is probably on “peanuts†compared to the wages of our other “stars†and if he was only in £1,000 a week at Reading, there would be no way we are paying him much more than that
He will definitely be in more than 1k a week now but certainly on less than Grant, RobinsonGrayd etc
-
It's telling though isn't it, that our first team includes the likes of Carroll, Reach and Molumby - players nowhere near premier league level.
Carroll for what it's worth seems to be working as hard as he can, using his remaining abilities to try and bring others into the game. From what I've seen, Grant really should have scored the one Carroll put on a plate for him.
No real sign of scoring though, another non scoring striker. Being harsh on him maybe, he does seem to have been the one bright spark in the last few games.
-
It's telling though isn't it, that our first team includes the likes of Carroll, Reach and Molumby - players nowhere near premier league level.
Carroll for what it's worth seems to be working as hard as he can, using his remaining abilities to try and bring others into the game. From what I've seen, Grant really should have scored the one Carroll put on a plate for him.
No real sign of scoring though, another non scoring striker. Being harsh on him maybe, he does seem to have been the one bright spark in the last few games.
To be fair to Carroll, he was unlucky with the best Cross he has received since he’s been here that hit the bar
-
Unfortunately we have no idea how to play with a target man of this type, it’s been so long since we had any kind of presence in the penalty area.
We have two full back who couldn’t cross a ball to save their life.
-
Unfortunately we have no idea how to play with a target man of this type, it’s been so long since we had any kind of presence in the penalty area.
We have two full back who couldn’t cross a ball to save their life.
Yet against Blackburn Townsend gave Carroll the sort of cross he would dream of but he put the header well over the bar. Story of our season really the gilt edged chances that do come along (not many) we fail to take.
-
Must wonder what on earth he has walked into?
Would have been better off staying at Reading?
-
Plays like he cares which is more than you can say about many of his teammates.
-
Must wonder what on earth he has walked into?
Would have been better off staying at Reading?
I see one man ure ex player got a bounce off his new side.
-
This won't be popular but he is ineffective as Hugill. Take a look at the scoring record of this pair. Something like 1 goal in 16 completed matches.
He never came close to scoring last night.
-
This won't be popular but he is ineffective as Hugill. Take a look at the scoring record of this pair. Something like 1 goal in 16 completed matches.
He never came close to scoring last night.
He's ineffective because we have nobody within twenty yards of him most of the time and we've stopped putting in crosses.
-
This won't be popular but he is ineffective as Hugill. Take a look at the scoring record of this pair. Something like 1 goal in 16 completed matches.
He never came close to scoring last night.
Last night was his worst game for us since he joined by a long way. Other games he's been one of the better players.
-
This won't be popular but he is ineffective as Hugill. Take a look at the scoring record of this pair. Something like 1 goal in 16 completed matches.
He never came close to scoring last night.
Given the chances Hugill had I'm confident Carroll would have scored more. I'm also confident Carroll will continue to struggle to score if we don't provide him with decent opportunities.
-
We've spent the entire season playing crosses into Matt Phillips and Callum Robinson from out wide - two players not remotely suited to that way of playing.
We sign a 6ft giant and suddenly we've stopped supplying crosses into the middle.
You really could not write it could you? If you're not going to put crosses into the box then it is pointless playing him.
Last night was another occasion of where he was left totally isolated and often surrounded by three or four Swansea players who marked him out the game.
-
To make Carroll effective you have to play a certain way. This is now part of our problem because we are tactically reduced to getting it on the big guys head. The team is shot of confidence and sit deep isolating AC and he is easy to mark out of the game.
-
Only way to get Carroll more involved is to put Grady on left TGH on right to deliver crosses that he should thrive on. Playing the duo of Grant and Robinson with Andy nullifies the reason he’s in first team as a for-mentioned only seem to want to cut in and shoot.
-
Only way to get Carroll more involved is to put Grady on left TGH on right to deliver crosses that he should thrive on. Playing the duo of Grant and Robinson with Andy nullifies the reason he’s in first team as a for-mentioned only seem to want to cut in and shoot.
What exactly is the reason he's in the first team?
-
he is the best of our non-scoring goal scorers. it is difficult to separate them out because none have scored a goal for so long, but if you dig really deep into the stats he shades it.
-
he is the best of our non-scoring goal scorers. it is difficult to separate them out because none have scored a goal for so long, but if you dig really deep into the stats he shades it.
Not sure how deep you're digging, but 3 goals in 61 matches since the summer of 2018 doesn't even shade Jordan Hugill
-
On Jordan Hugill, since signing for Cardiff:
Jordan Hugill has 2 goals
WBA have 1 goal
-
On Jordan Hugill, since signing for Cardiff:
Jordan Hugill has 2 goals
WBA have 1 goal
Hugill will still have 2 by the end of the season, wba should have 3 by then
-
It’s ironic, and you can’t help but feel for Andy today, as we probably put more crosses in the box than in any of the games since he joined us
-
I get why fans have taken to him
Massive reduction in wages compared to some,looks committed, says the right thing….
But he just cannot run and it’s no coincidence that with his omission we look way more fluid and actually win a game.
-
He will serve us best from the bench when chasing a late goal or needing to defend a lead as he can go back and defend.
-
Imagine we will see less and less of him especially when Dike is back but he's tried his hardest and was a reasonably cheap deal by all accounts and done OK overall. Fair play to him.
Would not like to see him here next year saying that. His legs have gone which is expected for his age.
Asa Albionfan said a few posts previous we hit so many AC type balls today, the one game he wasn't playing.
-
I’ve been impressed with what I’ve seen of Andy, his attitude, his willingness to put a good shift in and to lead by example.
Given his weekly wage are reported to be reasonable, it was a £1,000 a week a Reading according to The Athletic, I’d be happy for us to give him another 12 month contract on current salary + inflation, generous to a fault I am
He won’t play every minute of every game, but would be good to use from the bench as an impact player and he wouldn’t, necessarily, hold younger players back.
Our younger strikers could learn a lot from him about being a professional footballer and all that goes with it.
-
Was a bit 'so what' when he signed but you have to admire his attitude. May not have the legs for 90 minutes but a very good impact sub.
-
He looks like he cares, which is more than some of our team.
-
Never in a million years would I have expected to be praising Andy Carroll. Getting on a bit now obviously but still a consummate professional and a credit to the team. Younger players should take note of his attitude. Well done Andy, another decent effort for WBA.
-
Tbf he has shown total professionalism and attitude and as thus commended for it. Agreed, many of our so called professionals should take a leaf out of his book!
-
Great attitude. Would that the rest of the squad followed suit, lazy barskits.
-
Love his attitude and application. Watched his post match interview earlier. Reading between the lines (wildly speculating) I don't think he'll be here next season even if offered a contract.
He's been around a lot of dressing rooms. Given interactions with some of his teammates I think he was expecting more. Not sure he's been overly impressed with some of the support from the stands either to be honest.
-
West Brom to address Andy Carroll contract in summer - Steve Bruce
https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2022/03/12/west-brom-to-address-andy-carroll-contract-in-summer-steve-bruce/
Fingers crossed both parties can reach an agreement that sees him here for next season
-
West Brom to address Andy Carroll contract in summer - Steve Bruce
https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2022/03/12/west-brom-to-address-andy-carroll-contract-in-summer-steve-bruce/
Fingers crossed both parties can reach an agreement that sees him here for next season
Big No from me, we need to add a poacher alongside Dyke not a cart horse (even a trier)
-
Big No from me, we need to add a poacher alongside Dyke not a cart horse (even a trier)
How much do you think we'll spend though? Let's say we bring in the poacher. That will leave us with Dyke, this poacher, and..... who? We'll be short up front again. Considering his wages are low, he'll be a backup player, and he obviously has a great attitude to the game, we'd be mad not to sign him up, even if he's only 4th choice.
-
Love his attitude and application. Watched his post match interview earlier. Reading between the lines (wildly speculating) I don't think he'll be here next season even if offered a contract.
He's been around a lot of dressing rooms. Given interactions with some of his teammates I think he was expecting more. Not sure he's been overly impressed with some of the support from the stands either to be honest.
Our fans have been a joke all season. Even against Huddersfield there were a few boos at half time from the back of the Brummie then when the second went in the "you're not fit to wear the shirts" chant came out. It was only a few fans, nothing like what it has been but nevertheless it still happened.
Is that the way it's going to be all the time now, boos whenever we're not winning?
Shocking support.
-
Our fans have been a joke all season. Even against Huddersfield there were a few boos at half time from the back of the Brummie then when the second went in the "you're not fit to wear the shirts" chant came out. It was only a few fans, nothing like what it has been but nevertheless it still happened.
Is that the way it's going to be all the time now, boos whenever we're not winning?
Shocking support.
That's just ridiculous to be honest. I made a rare visit to the Smethwick concourse prior to half time and have no idea whether the same applied.
There's been a number of times at games this season when I've just stood there shaking my head at some of the crowd responses around me.
In fairness I've done exactly the same regarding some of the shambles that's been unfolding on the pitch too.
-
Andy Carroll: Playing football 'still a privilege' for West Bromwich Albion striker
Its a pity some of our other players don't show the same mentality as Andy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60724956
-
How much do you think we'll spend though? Let's say we bring in the poacher. That will leave us with Dyke, this poacher, and..... who? We'll be short up front again. Considering his wages are low, he'll be a backup player, and he obviously has a great attitude to the game, we'd be mad not to sign him up, even if he's only 4th choice.
Fair point, well made, as a back up he could fill a role, especially on his wage.
-
Fair point, well made, as a back up he could fill a role, especially on his wage.
Worrying thing is I thought that about Hal Robson-Kanu and he ended up first choice. :o
-
Andy Carroll: Playing football 'still a privilege' for West Bromwich Albion striker
Its a pity some of our other players don't show the same mentality as Andy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60724956
And that is all very well and good, but some are better at playing the media game and saying what the people want to hear
I’d rather a Pererira that couldn’t care less, plays for the money and runs if the cash is available, than someone who says I love the club, but can’t actually run.
-
Another year older, another yard slower next season. Yes he has a good attitude, but so did HRK and Hugill and I don't see anyone advocating signing either of them for next season. Would just be a waste of a squad place for another well past his peak player and we have plenty of them already. Time to move onwards and forwards.
-
Another year older, another yard slower next season. Yes he has a good attitude, but so did HRK and Hugill and I don't see anyone advocating signing either of them for next season. Would just be a waste of a squad place for another well past his peak player and we have plenty of them already. Time to move onwards and forwards.
I think there would be a few people asking for us to sign HRK.
-
I think there would be a few people asking for us to sign HRK.
A few people advocating signing HRK for next season? Really? I very much doubt it. There are a few advocating signing Andy Carroll mind you, so you never know I suppose.
-
Despite his slow pace that Tonight is what you call a old fashioned Centre Forward display . Held the ball , always willing to take it or make space . Others could do well to watch him , only wish he was a bit younger .
-
I think i would give him a 1 year deal if we (likely) don't go up.
He's gone way up in my estimation since his arrival here. His attitude is spot on and still hungry to win even though at end of his career. Put's a lot of the squad to shame in that respect.
-
without doubt deserves a 12 month contract . he puts a shift in proved me wrong and what a goal
-
Thoroughly deserved his standing ovation at the end - Bournemouth really struggled with him all night.
A class act and a class guy.
-
Definitely should get a one year deal.
There will be times next season when he and Dike together will be unplayable at this level. They'll give defenders sleepless nights.
I don't expect he'd play every game but he'd be really important as an option.
Get it sorted now Albion!
-
Must admit hes proved me wrong i didnt want him here i thought here we go again another journeyman lookinh for some easy cash. Faur play after all his injuries still got the desire to put a shift in, teammates take note!! More than happy to see him here for another year
-
I think he will get better offers than us tbh
-
Get him tied down for 1year with a years option or if not give 2 years. Pace has never been part of his game and he seems fitter now than he's ever been
-
Get him tied down for 1year with a years option or if not give 2 years. Pace has never been part of his game and he seems fitter now than he's ever been
What? Offer a 33 year old a contract? Are you crazy? ;D
I fully agree btw👍
-
Cracking game from Andy last night ran his socks off,bullied those Bournemouth defenders and a well taken goal to boot. Should be starting every game if fit imo and deserves to be tied down to contract for next season.
-
Great performance last night, at times he was unplayable and scared their defence.
One year contract if possible would suit us. Hopefully Dike is the first choice with Carroll being a great option if there's someone up there with him (Grant + AN Other pacey natural striker) and if the midfield join up with him too (like last night). Up on his own , he'll be wasted and needs players to play off him
-
When we signed Carroll I was like oh you really can't make this up then Bruce Joined and it was like Now you really are having a laugh. My dad doesn't really rate Carroll but if we can get 1 or 2 good years out of him being a hold up player as he actually puts in a shift and cares for basically no money and at times has saved us at the back. He may be a solid signing. Carroll must be seeing us and Bruce his old Gaffer as a chance for him maybe to not better his career but enjoy his football again, prove people wrong like Look I can score goals. I hope he does well and stays and good luck to him if he does decide to leave.
-
I was never a fan. He played for teams I disliked and I have been guilty of giving loads of verbal abuse(and I mean abuse) at times during games. I heard he was a target for us and when he signed I was very very angry. How wrong can you be? Carroll has proven even in his brief time with us that not only is he a consummate professional, but is also a passionate player who cares about the team he is playing for. Normally I would be against a further contract for a 33+ year old, who has only been with us for a relatively short time, but I truly believe Carroll should be signed up if he wants it. He can still be useful on the pitch, and what a mentor and maybe even a strike partner he might be for Dike'. Sign him up Albion!
-
Definitely deserves at least a years extension.
Leader...and we lack those.
-
I'm genuinely surprised at the calls for Carroll to be signed, especially given most of the posts in the rebuild thread are about us signing old players and not using the kids.
Personally I would like to see him have a contract until June 23 but no longer than that. Like many others I've been impressed with his application in games and I think he could be good for Dyke to learn from. Definitely a good option off the bench if not a starter.
-
Like most I've been impressed with his application from what I've seen of him.
I just pray he's not another Danny Dichio - amazing whilst trying to earn a contract then eased up once it was all signed
-
The volume of people on here that accuse the club of being knee jerk,then want to give 33 year old Andy Carroll a contract extension.
Yes he scored yesterday,but there have been a few matches where he’s come on and done absolutely nothing..
I don’t expect him to play like ronaldo,but I also don’t think we should have him here next season.
-
The volume of people on here that accuse the club of being knee jerk,then want to give 33 year old Andy Carroll a contract extension.
There's nothing knee jerk about it.
There are exceptions to every rule and yes we do need to stop giving contracts to ageing players.
However, Carroll isn't your normal footballer. He has the ability of a genuinely top Premier League striker, if not the body or mobility to go with it, is seemingly happy now to play on low wages and because of the football he's lost over the years, still has a real hunger and desire to perform.
Not only does he have a role on the field selectively, he's also ideal for Dike to learn off given the type of striker Dike is.
Most clubs usually have four forwards (if they play with a front two). Carroll is easily deserving of one of those places.
-
The volume of people on here that accuse the club of being knee jerk,then want to give 33 year old Andy Carroll a contract extension.
Yes he scored yesterday,but there have been a few matches where he’s come on and done absolutely nothing..
I don’t expect him to play like ronaldo,but I also don’t think we should have him here next season.
Plus one here, give him a contract and you can guarantee that you have a lesser player, he is not here at a minimal wage (for football) because he is a philanthropist
-
For what we'd pay for him you're not going to get a better option - what was it at Reading, £2k a week? For a pro with the right attitude, has still got the talent, and his game was never about pace anyway that's peanuts.
Nobody thinks he should be first choice, but he's certainly going to be a good 3rd or 4th choice option. Even if we don't sign him we need *someone* to be 3rd or 4th choice, who are we going to get for that price? A youth player?
Especially if we set up to play with Dike as first choice. If he gets injured (and let's face it, we could have another sicknote on our hands for all we knoow), then you want someone similar to fill in if possible.
I'd snap his hand off to sign him. Sign him up, that's two of the front four sorted for next season. We just don't have the money to splash out on more forwards in the summer - not when the midfield and defence need an overhaul too.
-
Plus one here, give him a contract and you can guarantee that you have a lesser player, he is not here at a minimal wage (for football) because he is a philanthropist
Or could he just be a genuinely decent chap that loves his football?
Personally I thought we beat Bournemouth because of him, he got at them and it worried them. You are right insofar as he does not do that every game but you can see he knows what he is doing. Even when he doesn’t score he is working for the team; he is a team player and not thinking about himself. Every now and then a player turns up at West Brom and you know that they are, or have been on a different level. Being a former defender myself, I was just stunned watching Johnny Evans, read the game beautifully. Pereira speaks for himself, he had class. I also thought krychoviak was a class act too, but he had half a pub team around him.
Carroll offers a lot more than Abbott and Costello we currently have up front, so for me he thoroughly deserves a one year contract as back up to Dike. The pair of them could be a real force up front.
-
One of the very few successes this season. I’d have him in for Grant all the time .
-
Him and dike in a 2 next year could be leathel and really give us the fire power we need for a promotion push. 1 year deal on continued low wages is a no brainer as he is an actual striker vs grant and robinson who we play up there and arent atrikers...
-
I would only take on a pay as you play contract with a very low basic wage of around £2,000 a week.
If he really loves football his massive moves to Liverpool and West Ham have earnt plus the other clubs have made him a very rich player and he's spent the majority of time at those clubs in the treatment room.
-
I'm mainly against signing older players coming to the end of their careers, but to be fair he actually looks as if he cares, remember it took Maitland-Niles last season to speak some home truths to this lot! As already been said ok, it's a cheap option ala Albion style, but forwards are always expensive, and we have more pressing positions that need money spending on! He could be good just to have about the place at the right price!
-
Plus one here, give him a contract and you can guarantee that you have a lesser player, he is not here at a minimal wage (for football) because he is a philanthropist
One exception could be he’s got more passion & pride than most of our current players put together.
He has played at the top level for most of his career where as most of ours have had a taste of it and think they are above this level now(hence going to places like Bristol and Bham expecting to just win and not have to earn it)
Personally I think we a crying out for leaders all over the pitch as we lack any unless you class calamity Kyle as one - if you do, look at where we stand in the league.
Give Carroll a year + 1 in our favour.
He deserves that.
-
He’s an exception to the rule in my humble. We have been bitten when it comes to dishing out contracts to older folk but he’s had a positive influence on us and others are right, him and Dike could cause a lot of issues for others.
Of course, this is assuming we keep Bruce because I’d hate us to sign then have a manager where he doesn’t fit.
If we went with a 352 though it does leave Grant, Robinson and Diangana in murky water unless Bruce goes more dynamic with an attacking left side but more defensive right side.
-
You sometimes need to balance a squad and we don’t have anything like Carroll, given the money he wants and his commitment he’d get 12 months no trouble at all.
His attitude is worth the 12 months compared to others.
-
Andy Carroll keen to extend West Brom deal
I hope we can reach a sensible agreement between him and the club
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/04/08/andy-carroll-keen-to-extend-west-brom-deal/
-
Another year older, another year slower, another wasted wage for another year. Yep, let's sign him up, will fit in well.
-
Another year older, another year slower, another wasted wage for another year. Yep, let's sign him up, will fit in well.
Even IF it did turn out like that on what we'd likely have to pay Carroll it would still be worth it because of the help he would provide with regards to Dike's development.
That is worst case scenario. You have to think and understand bigger pictures.
-
He won’t cost a lot in the grand scheme of things and has forgotten more about playing up front than the rest of them will ever know. A 12 months deal makes all kind of sense,
-
More ability than the rest of our so called strike force put together.
-
Even IF it did turn out like that on what we'd likely have to pay Carroll it would still be worth it because of the help he would provide with regards to Dike's development.
That is worst case scenario. You have to think and understand bigger pictures.
It's the bigger picture I'm worried about.
-
More ability than the rest of our so called strike force put together.
Got any evidence to back up that statement? Goals? Assists? Something else other than a "good attitude, tries hard!?
-
Well Timdon I would suggest comparing his Premier league career compared to the rest of our so called attackers would be a start .
-
Even IF it did turn out like that on what we'd likely have to pay Carroll it would still be worth it because of the help he would provide with regards to Dike's development.
That is worst case scenario. You have to think and understand bigger pictures.
We spent 7m on Dike, he shouldn’t need a baby sitter, at this point it’s a competition between them as to who can keep Bupa more occupied.
Carroll may look like he cares but his legs don’t allow him to run, people clamour for strategy and the reduction in average age, then on the back of one match vs Bournemouth want to throw contracts around.
-
We spent 7m on Dike, he shouldn’t need a baby sitter, at this point it’s a competition between them as to who can keep Bupa more occupied.
Carroll may look like he cares but his legs don’t allow him to run, people clamour for strategy and the reduction in average age, then on the back of one match vs Bournemouth want to throw contracts around.
It's not a case of having a babysitter. Dike is 21 years old and his game needs to develop.
A one year deal on low wages is no risk.
-
Well Timdon I would suggest comparing his Premier league career compared to the rest of our so called attackers would be a start .
I'm not denying that he may have been a good signing for us back in the day when he was younger and faster. But he isn't that player any more, so pointless comparing his past ability with his present ability. But just to address your suggestion, let's look at his last 3 seasons in the Premier League. Played 49, Goals 1. Mmm. Just for comparison purposes, Callum Robinson scored 5 goals in 28 appearances last season in a considerably worse side.
-
I can see both sides to this debate but I will add even in his prime he was never quick , not even close to it .
-
We spent 7m on Dike, he shouldn’t need a baby sitter, at this point it’s a competition between them as to who can keep Bupa more occupied.
Carroll may look like he cares but his legs don’t allow him to run, people clamour for strategy and the reduction in average age, then on the back of one match vs Bournemouth want to throw contracts around.
I am in favour of giving him another 12-18 months or so not "on the back of one match" but based on his performances and contributions to the team at both ends of the pitch over most of the games he has played for us. If football was just about being able to run fast then the USA would narrowly win the World Cup over Jamaica simply by picking their best sprinters and relay teams. Thankfully as I think you actually understand, there is usually a little more to it than that, and ability in other aspects is usually far more effective and entertaining than running up and down the pitch very quickly. See a certain mr U Bolt's performances in a soccer team.Great athlete but not a footballer.
-
Looks to have the right attitude on and off the field. Hopefully that can be infectious. Value for money unlike most of our signings the past couple of years.
-
I can see both sides to this debate but I will add even in his prime he was never quick , not even close to it .
A good example for me was Mowatt's goal. As the ball is coming back into the box, it's Andy making a nuiscence of himself and you can see him glance to see where the space was in front of Mowatt in case he got a head to it. Was hard to tell if it came off Carroll or off the back of the defender but it did go into that space and we scored. I'm not sure having Grant or Callum challenge for that ball would have result in that, most likely an easy headed clearance. Not to blame those two players, winning headers in the box has never been their game.
-
Would anyone sign him for next season on a 1 year deal with the same wages?
I'm torn both ways.
-
He is the difference to all the other players.
-
Would anyone sign him for next season on a 1 year deal with the same wages?
I'm torn both ways.
without a doubt mate 👍
-
without a doubt mate 👍
Agreed :o
I’m not sure what wage he is on but I imagine it would be similar to the deal he had at Reading where his low base wage was topped up with performance related bonuses. He’s certainly justified having a contract with us unlike most of our players
-
Absolutely I can understand why people don't want him being old and past it. But he has been brilliant for us so far he is on 2K a week I think. He might want more for next season. As I said he will probably want to enjoy his football and prove people he can still do something as he has nothing to play for he is probably thankful for us for giving him a chance so he can enjoy his Football. Worth signing him Dike Main striker obviously. But if it doesn't work out agree for both parties to end things.
-
Agreed :o
I’m not sure what wage he is on but I imagine it would be similar to the deal he had at Reading where his low base wage was topped up with performance related bonuses. He’s certainly justified having a contract with us unlike most of our players
Be careful mate, you'll be ill 🤣🤣
-
Got any evidence to back up that statement? Goals? Assists? Something else other than a "good attitude, tries hard!?
Just a goal and an assist today. Useless.
-
Happy to keep Carroll. I see comments about his influence on Dike but I think that's overrated. Both are injury prone so perhaps they can share notes on the treatment table?
Carroll is a decent pro who knows his way around the game. Attitude is good and I see no harm in giving him more time unless it hinders some unknown prospect from coming through the ranks.
-
When we signed him i thought panic signing. But fair play to him his attitude and application have been excellent. Sign him up!
-
Happy to keep Carroll. I see comments about his influence on Dike but I think that's overrated. Both are injury prone so perhaps they can share notes on the treatment table?
Carroll is a decent pro who knows his way around the game. Attitude is good and I see no harm in giving him more time unless it hinders some unknown prospect from coming through the ranks.
In what way is Dyke “injury prone� One injury from a rushed pre-season and aggravated it making a rushed comeback. Not exactly Anichobe!
-
I heard that he was on £1,000 a week at Reading, but this probably was the basic wage and he got extra for appearances and goals.
I was surprised by that as I said we give him a maximum of £2k basic on a pay as play, but would now take that figure to the Reading wage.
Best to keep him on his toes those with 6 months at a time though if not 3 month as you just know we sign him he will get injured.
-
I heard that he was on £1,000 a week at Reading, but this probably was the basic wage and he got extra for appearances and goals.
I was surprised by that as I said we give him a maximum of £2k basic on a pay as play, but would now take that figure to the Reading wage.
Best to keep him on his toes those with 6 months at a time though if not 3 month as you just know we sign him he will get injured.
Are you saying keep him on his toes because if we give him a contract he will get himself injured on purpose?
-
In what way is Dyke “injury prone� One injury from a rushed pre-season and aggravated it making a rushed comeback. Not exactly Anichobe!
We've no idea do we? All we do know is he's hardly played for us due to injury. At the moment the jury is out on how injury prone he is.
-
Anyone else feel sorry for Andy Carroll ?
He’s about the only one that try’s both unsupported up front or defending which, considering his age, is quite a feat. He must wish he’d never signed.
-
Good player, many of our squad would do well to see the amount of effort he puts into games . Needs a new contract now !
-
Reading between the lines here, he won't be here next season!
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/04/27/steve-bruce-plans-andy-carroll-talks-ahead-of-west-brom-squad-rebuild/
Carroll has impressed for the Baggies ever since arriving on a short-term deal back in January.
Bruce, though, is determined to overhaul Albion's squad this summer following a dreadful campaign that has seen them languish in mid-table.
That isn't going to be straightforward with the majority of the playing staff contracted for the 2022/23 campaign.
And with his deal set to expire, Carroll will be one player that's easy to move on.
The majority of fans, though, would like to see the former Newcastle striker stay at the club.
But with Daryl Dike, Karlan Grant, Callum Robinson and Kenneth Zohore all able to play up front, Bruce says he can't afford to have too many centre-forwards in his squad next term.
"We have got to look at that situation," the boss said when asked about Carroll's future.
"I’m aware we have got big Zohore and Dike so it’s about getting the balance right.
"I’ll have a look at it and see what we’ve got.
"But he (Carroll) has not done himself any harm. He has done well since he has been here and it's great to see him fit. I've always said, when fit, Andy Carroll is a threat.
"I think it’s important in the next week or so that we sit down and make those big decisions which are never easy. We’ll see what develops."
Bruce has implemented a rule for next season that players cannot live more than 90 minutes away from the club's Walsall training ground.
Carroll, a father of four, is one of nine Albion players currently who travels for an hour-and-a-half to make it to training each day.
And Bruce accepts it's going to be hard for players with families to relocate.
"That is difficult when you have got kids, I understand that," the boss added.
"But it's important for players to be here the majority of the week. It’s difficult but you can have an apartment around the area."
-
Reading between the lines here, he won't be here next season!
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/04/27/steve-bruce-plans-andy-carroll-talks-ahead-of-west-brom-squad-rebuild/
Carroll has impressed for the Baggies ever since arriving on a short-term deal back in January.
Bruce, though, is determined to overhaul Albion's squad this summer following a dreadful campaign that has seen them languish in mid-table.
That isn't going to be straightforward with the majority of the playing staff contracted for the 2022/23 campaign.
And with his deal set to expire, Carroll will be one player that's easy to move on.
The majority of fans, though, would like to see the former Newcastle striker stay at the club.
But with Daryl Dike, Karlan Grant, Callum Robinson and Kenneth Zohore all able to play up front, Bruce says he can't afford to have too many centre-forwards in his squad next term.
"We have got to look at that situation," the boss said when asked about Carroll's future.
"I’m aware we have got big Zohore and Dike so it’s about getting the balance right.
"I’ll have a look at it and see what we’ve got.
"But he (Carroll) has not done himself any harm. He has done well since he has been here and it's great to see him fit. I've always said, when fit, Andy Carroll is a threat.
"I think it’s important in the next week or so that we sit down and make those big decisions which are never easy. We’ll see what develops."
Bruce has implemented a rule for next season that players cannot live more than 90 minutes away from the club's Walsall training ground.
Carroll, a father of four, is one of nine Albion players currently who travels for an hour-and-a-half to make it to training each day.
And Bruce accepts it's going to be hard for players with families to relocate.
"That is difficult when you have got kids, I understand that," the boss added.
"But it's important for players to be here the majority of the week. It’s difficult but you can have an apartment around the area."
It's comments like these that make you want to cry.
It's not the first time Bruce has mentioned Zohore as though he sees him as part of his first team squad. If that really is the case Gourlay and Co should be removing Bruce from his position. Zohore is probably the first player that needs to be bombed out. Instead Bruce will probably waste a dozen of our games next season trying to get a tune out of Zohore, whilst we all suffer as a result, before he finally bins him.
We need four strikers fit for purpose Dike, Carroll and Grant (his goal ratio is passable) and one other.
Talks shouldve been ongoing with Carroll by now and we should be doing what we can to sign him not talking up useless big oafs like Zohore.
-
Taken in isolation I do not mind if AC is released. When, however, you see the list of 'strikers' listed in the piece above you quickly recognise that, in fact, we have one centre forward, Dike! How depressing.
-
What on earth are the club seeing in Zohore now that we haven't seen in 3 years. We knew he was a dud when we signed him. It's hard to like this club under Lai.
-
Taken in isolation I do not mind if AC is released. When, however, you see the list of 'strikers' listed in the piece above you quickly recognise that, in fact, we have one centre forward, Dike! How depressing.
This is my view, AC has done well but is not someone to build around and in the short term, if he requires large wages, we're betting putting that into an alternative striker I think. However, if the plan is not offer AC a deal and then rely on Zohore 'as a 'big man' option then that's absolutely shocking!
-
all very depressing, fair play to those who renew their season tickets with what we have to look forward to next season
-
all very depressing, fair play to those who renew their season tickets with what we have to look forward to next season
I genuinely don't think Lai will care. He's lost a lot more than a few thousand season ticket holders in his 6 years here
-
WestBromXtra just tweeted
"Andy Carrroll wage demands 😬 No thanks move on #wba"
If he's asking for a bumper payrise time to move on for me as well.
-
The comments by our current Manager about Andy Carroll sums up the utter ****stormwe are in and how utterly hopeless Bruce and our current situation is.
-
Yes, in comparison with Zohore, Carroll is definitely an upgrade, but it's a very low bar. Personally I wouldn't be offering him a new deal. Yes he tries hard but that just isn't enough. He is slow and getting slower by the year and it's not even as if he is prolific in front of goal. In fact in half the matches he has started, he hasn't even managed one shot on target. If we are serious about a rebuild, we have to aim higher than him. And that's without considering what wage demands he is making.
-
WestBromXtra just tweeted
"Andy Carrroll wage demands 😬 No thanks move on #wba"
If he's asking for a bumper payrise time to move on for me as well.
If Carroll's wage demands are unrealistic then we should move on.
Twitter tittle tattle doesn't interest me though.
-
If Carroll's wage demands are unrealistic then we should move on.
Twitter tittle tattle doesn't interest me though.
Would explain the shift in comments from along the lines of "yeah we want to get the deal done" to " Zohores got a part to play"
-
He's been a useful signing and a decent stop gap, certainly much better than Hugill ever was and one of the few who's clearly put everything in.
But going into next season you'd really have to ask what kind of team does Bruce want? Is it going to be more painfully slow, no technical ability with aimless hoofs up the pitch? If the answers yes then Carroll is a big asset to the side. If its something even resembling modern football where you need the strikers to be pressing and mobile then Carroll would really limit us unless he was basically used as solely a last 15 minute option to win headers and hold the ball up. While he certainly could do that job, paying him big wages to do so wouldn't be the wisest.
-
Would explain the shift in comments from along the lines of "yeah we want to get the deal done" to " Zohores got a part to play"
Bruce has said similar about Zohore before though on WM not long after he took over, mentioning the need to get him and Phillips back to fitness.
-
Bruce has said similar about Zohore before though on WM not long after he took over, mentioning the need to get him and Phillips back to fitness.
Fair enough. Good luck to him I say ;D
-
As it’s pretty much common knowledge now. Andy Carroll wants 20k+ #wba
Above from Westbrom Xtra. It's a no from me but thanks for your efforts this season.
-
As it’s pretty much common knowledge now. Andy Carroll wants 20k+ #wba
Above from Westbrom Xtra. It's a no from me but thanks for your efforts this season.
It's a no for now from me.
I'd take the risk he gets fixed up somewhere else, but, if not, re-visit at the end of the window.
-
Just had an alert through from The Athletic basically saying Carroll will be released at the end of the season and won't be played for the final two games
-
At 20k a week makes sense
edit - to reject him
-
Carroll was a no brainer to sign on low wages but if reports are true that he wants north of 20k p/w its right to release him given his age.
Also Carroll lives a long way away from West Brom and if Bruce is insistent on players living within a radius it has to apply to all players otherwise it creates resentment. Would Carroll really relocate for one season?
I like Carroll and would have loved to have kept him for a year but only if all conditions were met.
I just hope we're not relying on Zohore to fill the void.
-
It's a shame as you cannot fault his effort compared to the majority of cretins in our squad, but it is probably the right decision if we are looking to rebuild and he is after a sizeable wage.
-
There's no way anyone should offer him anything other than a pay as you play type contract with his injury record.
-
at much lower demands I would have him. But if 20k p/w is true then its a no from me
-
I add that i dont begrudge him 20k p/w if he is playing and scoring goals or effecting the team through appearance and performance related bonuses but not as a basic deal where the baseline is 20k p/w.
-
Steve Madeley tweeted
EXCLUSIVE
Albion tell Andy Carroll he is being released
âš½Bruce feels Carroll dictates the style of play
âš½Plan to spend his wages on more pace and flair
âš½Carroll won't figure in the final 2 games.
âš½Dike expected to be 'main man'.
Bye Andy, thank you for your service.
-
Andy Carroll told he has no West Brom future
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/04/29/andy-carroll-told-he-has-no-west-brom-future/
-
He's been a breath of fresh air and I would have loved to see him stay but realistically, the money needs the be spent elsewhere as a priority. File should tear the league up if he gets proper support. I would like to see a young striker like Delap come in on loan.
-
Think this is the right decision to be honest. Can't fault his effort, but that's about all he offers. Time to move on.
-
Tried hard, was a great professional but not the future. Makes sense to me. Our squad is aging and if Dike is fit he plays.
-
not sure what to think about this, seems like the right decision , but we need another striker at least as back up and only time will tell. more players in the squad I would boot out first but with those ridiculously long contracts some of them won't are going anywhere fast.
Done us proud, one of a few who can hold his head up.
-
I think its the right decision, we need more mobility and to be better on the ball (any better on the ball than this season !) rather than hoof ball.
What we need next season will be pace and goals coming from all areas of the pitch and not to be relying on the central striker to score all the goals. Our goals from central midfield and wing backs this seasaon has been very poor. I can see us going back to 4-5-1 which becomes 4-3-3 when needed.
-
Will only be right decision if we bring in upgrade but read somewhere during the week that Zohore will be second choice striker behind Dike.
-
He has been a breath of fresh air with his attitude - you can clearly see he has been frustrated with the efforts of some of his team mates.
That being said it is the right decision and I am glad to see a smarter recruitment approach rather than relying on sentiment. The easy option was giving him a new deal.
-
I agree with most of the sentiments. We are facing cuts to the budget and unfortunately we are stuck with a lot of poor players on contract that are unsellable.
I hope it isn’t just to save the money and that it helps create a bit of financial headroom in wages to improve the first team. No reflection on Carroll but he’s not the future and we have to hope to find a bit of potential with better value for money.
We certainly can’t rely on the very weak forwards/wingers we have - Zohore, Grant, Phillips, Diangana are a poor bunch. And Dike is unproven.
I think it’s the right call.
-
It’s not the first time Steve has let him go, he was right then and he is right now.
I do respect AC and echo the positive comments of other posters about him
-
No issue at all with ruthlessness, I feel Bilic's undoing was chasing players like Krov and Robinson who were middling at best in the championship.
Carroll will play against us next season and rightly get a brilliant reception but the reasoning is fair.
-
It was a stop gap signing that worked better than could have been expected. However he wasn't that good we aren't going to be paying £20k a week to back up options.
Equally if we want a more possession based style of football an increasingly immobile CF is not what we need.
-
Carroll was a no brainer to sign on low wages but if reports are true that he wants north of 20k p/w its right to release him given his age.
Also Carroll lives a long way away from West Brom and if Bruce is insistent on players living within a radius it has to apply to all players otherwise it creates resentment. Would Carroll really relocate for one season?
I like Carroll and would have loved to have kept him for a year but only if all conditions were met.
I just hope we're not relying on Zohore to fill the void.
In todays article about Carroll being released he is liekly to be the backup man to Dike but Bruce is looking for quicker, more athletic players to get in to support Dike.
-
It has to be the right decision. Yes he’s shown many of ours up with his attitude but his end product was average . Taking his alleged wage demands and his injury record into account it is a no brainer and so it’s thanks for your efforts Andy and all the best in the future ( unless it’s against us )
-
Easily the right decision.
He has tried incredibly hard but that is not the baseline by which we should be measuring - in fact it is a sad indictment of our current stage of affairs that Andy has been a standout performer. A low bar indeed.
That said- full respect for his attitude when he was here and a pleasant surprise actually.
-
All the above replies sum up my feelings. Thanks Andy, but we got Dike back and that's an expensive back up.
-
Hope plans are moving forward in regards to recruitment - if not then didn't Bruce say something about Zohore last week? *Shakes head*
-
I'll be sad to see him go.
The issue with our current recruitment is that we've been awful with signings, so compared to the others this season, Carroll has been fairly good. That said, Bruce hasn't had a window in fairness so I won't judge him until after.
-
All the talk of new players that are going to improve us and give us more pace ……. So since when have we actually signed a goal scoring striker that has a good all round ability. The last one I can think of was Dwight Gayle and he was only on loan . Sorry to see AC go because quite frankly apart from the unproven Dike he’s better than all the other assorted mismatches that we currently have .
-
Sad to see him go in one respect as he really was the only one at times that looked as if he gave a toss.
On the other hand with him in the side there was only one way to play.
If the club are genuinely looking to move forward and develop a more 'pleasing on the eye' approach to games, then yes it is the correct decision.
At his age he may have played his last season at this level.
It also seems strange to me the timing of this decision. Maybe the club aren't telling us everything (shock. horror)
-
Sad to see him go in one respect as he really was the only one at times that looked as if he gave a toss.
On the other hand with him in the side there was only one way to play.
If the club are genuinely looking to move forward and develop a more 'pleasing on the eye' approach to games, then yes it is the correct decision.
At his age he may have played his last season at this level.
It also seems strange to me the timing of this decision. Maybe the club aren't telling us everything (shock. horror)
He had been a good servant for a short period of time but I guess it is the right decision.
Unfortunately I have no faith in the clowns that run our club to be making the right recruitment decisions.
If they follow this up with releasing and paying off one or two contracts then a good mix of youth and experience coming in I’d be happy - but we are going one direction and it isn’t up
-
Sad to see him go in one respect as he really was the only one at times that looked as if he gave a toss.
On the other hand with him in the side there was only one way to play.
If the club are genuinely looking to move forward and develop a more 'pleasing on the eye' approach to games, then yes it is the correct decision.
At his age he may have played his last season at this level.
It also seems strange to me the timing of this decision. Maybe the club aren't telling us everything (shock. horror)
Madely made the point yeaterday, that AC is being left out for the last two games out of respect for him.
If he got injured, he'd also be unemployed.
If he doesn't find another club, both parties could re-visit the situation at the end of the window.
-
I just can’t believe his wage demands are £20k having supposedly played for at least some of this season for £2k.
Championship finances are not what they were, he’s another year older and in reality you aren’t paying for him to be fit this season, you are banking on him staying fit which is still a gamble. He’s also scored 5 this season, not 15.
The only way he gets anywhere near £20k is if a relegated side fancies him as someone to try and impact a game late which I can only see if Burnley get relegated.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us do a deal with him later in the summer at all. I can understand him not playing the last two matches though.
-
I agree with John, leaving him out the last 2 dead games is a sign of respect and one I applaud. It's been a long time since I could say that about anything to do with the Albion.
He's done nothing wrong in his time here with us but we can't justify those wages either. He deserves the chance to go out and get a deal so why would we jeopardise it for no reason.
-
I just can’t believe his wage demands are £20k having supposedly played for at least some of this season for £2k.
Championship finances are not what they were, he’s another year older and in reality you aren’t paying for him to be fit this season, you are banking on him staying fit which is still a gamble. He’s also scored 5 this season, not 15.
The only way he gets anywhere near £20k is if a relegated side fancies him as someone to try and impact a game late which I can only see if Burnley get relegated.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us do a deal with him later in the summer at all. I can understand him not playing the last two matches though.
No one wanted him so he had to take 1-2k to get himself in the window. He then came here on higher wages but still relatively low for him. He's done well here so he can ask for more again.
20k per week I agree he will struggle to get that but footballers don't live in the real world sadly. I imagine he will get 10k a week somewhere. His only hope, as you say, is that one of the relegated club's go in for him.
-
Bruce is right in that if you have Andy Carroll then he dictates how you play. The news that we want to become a more possession based outfit is music to my ears and on that basis it’s the right decision.
I hope he finds a new club because he’s the only player in the last few years that I can honestly say I’ve taken to.
-
Bruce is right in that if you have Andy Carroll then he dictates how you play. The news that we want to become a more possession based outfit is music to my ears and on that basis it’s the right decision.
I hope he finds a new club because he’s the only player in the last few years that I can honestly say I’ve taken to.
Agree, wholeheartedly, with both of those points. I wish him well but I do think SB has made the right call.
-
I just can’t believe his wage demands are £20k having supposedly played for at least some of this season for £2k.
Championship finances are not what they were, he’s another year older and in reality you aren’t paying for him to be fit this season, you are banking on him staying fit which is still a gamble. He’s also scored 5 this season, not 15.
The only way he gets anywhere near £20k is if a relegated side fancies him as someone to try and impact a game late which I can only see if Burnley get relegated.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us do a deal with him later in the summer at all. I can understand him not playing the last two matches though.
To be honest if I was in a job where I’ve been doing a lot better job than people earning 10x more than me I’d be asking the question to match their pay as well
-
Bruce is right in that if you have Andy Carroll then he dictates how you play. The news that we want to become a more possession based outfit is music to my ears and on that basis it’s the right decision.
I hope he finds a new club because he’s the only player in the last few years that I can honestly say I’ve taken to.
I agree about wanting more possession. I just hope that possession involves going forwards and not sideways and backwards all the time. Despite the terrible season we have had a few decent additions would make this a good side.
-
If we want to play possession-based football there are plenty of players here less-suited to it than Andy Carroll. I’m sure we could play it into his feet and he’d do a good job of holding it up and bringing others into play. Dike of course needs to be the focal point but I think Carroll would have been a good bench/back-up option.
Anyway, very much wish him well - always played like he cared which is more than you can say for a lot of players who will sadly still be here next season.
-
Does possession imply Romaine being re-integrated???
-
Feel sad to see him go he put a lot in more than players who have been here longer. He put 100 percent in and dropped back to. I have respect for him, when I heard we signed him I was a bit skeptical but fair play he has played his football the best he could. Good luck Andy hopefully you get a decent Reception from Albion Fans and felt welcomed.
-
I just can’t believe his wage demands are £20k having supposedly played for at least some of this season for £2k.
Look at it from his point of view. He sees players around him every day who have done stuff all this season, earning flick knows how much. You're going to think you deserve a decent proportion of what they're on, at least.
He hasn't set the world light, and I don't think we should pay him the alleged sum, but he's shown an attitude that has been sadly missing from much of the rest of the first team squad.
-
I think Carroll would have been a good bench/back-up option.
That's the point though, isn't it. That kind of cash for someone who will only play here and there isn't good business. I'd be happy enough for him to continue on the current wage, with a bonus every time he's in the match day squad, another bonus if he's subbed on, a larger bonus if he starts. Kind of pay-for-play but he gets a basic wage underpinning it.
-
As with everything without the aid of a time machine, we won't know until the start of the new season whether the right decision has been made for all parties concerned. We have to get some right soon don't we?
-
At first I was sceptical about him when he arrived, but I started to warm to him as he looked commited and was a leader on the pitch. Your head tells you that £20k/week doesn't make a lot of sense though when we may be able to find younger more mobile players able to do a job.
The Big If is, will we find the younger mobile players able to do a job. Remains to be seen.
-
With rumours going round that Bruce is looking at Zohore as back up to Dike think our summer spend will be very limited.
-
With rumours going round that Bruce is looking at Zohore as back up to Dike think our summer spend will be very limited.
I had the same fears but if you read the article i think he means Zohore will be the 'big striker' back up. He's looking for smaller, more nimble football-y type players to start with Dike.
-
I had the same fears but if you read the article i think he means Zohore will be the 'big striker' back up. He's looking for smaller, more nimble football-y type players to start with Dike.
has an option of three already at club Grant, Robinson or Dianganna.
-
Just parroting what others have said, but having Zohore as back up to Dike in temrs of his role makes sense given the position we find ourselves in.
Grant, Robinson and AN other striker will be here next season to complement Dike. Zohore will be 5th choice striker and that's about right for a top 10 championship side.
-
has an option of three already at club Grant, Robinson or Dianganna.
You can't talk sense at the Albion, everyones looking for someone and/or anyone, to blame in the presence of absent ownership.
-
I liked carroll and hes been the pick of our forwards. But if he wants too much money then its the right decision. Shame as his attitude was far better than the rest of them. Thanks Big Andy
-
Is Brucie having’ a laf?
In the Express & Dingle he’s saying he let Andy Carroll go because he had two number nine strikers…… Dike and Zohore.
If that’s Bruce’s managerial thought process god help us.
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/05/02/west-brom-boss-steve-bruce-insists-letting-andy-carroll-go-was-tough-decision/
-
Is Brucie having’ a laf?
In the Express & Dingle he’s saying he let Andy Carroll go because he had two number nine strikers…… Dike and Zohore.
If that’s Bruce’s managerial thought process god help us.
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/05/02/west-brom-boss-steve-bruce-insists-letting-andy-carroll-go-was-tough-decision/
To be fair, the position is that Dike and Zohore are on relatively long term contracts when compared to Carroll, who is out of contract shortly.
Additionally, we can't offload Zohore without taking a big financial hit, whereas with Carroll we can let him go with no financial repercussions.
That's how I read it, he is stuck with Zohore, unfortunately.
-
I feel sorry for Andy Carroll, I don’t think he’s put a foot wrong.
-
we can't offload Zohore without taking a big financial hit, whereas with Carroll we can let him go with no financial repercussions.
Surely better to let Z go for even a small amount? I still can't believe we agreed to pay £8M for him. Why anybody thought that was good business, apart from Dowling and Cardiff, I don;t know.
-
I feel sorry for Andy Carroll, I don’t think he’s put a foot wrong.
He hasn't but years of poor transfer dealings have tied everyone's hands and feet. We are stuck with the crud until their contracts expire and AC is the first victim of this. I'd rather have him than Zohore.
I think Zohore is entering his last year here thank god. Still with our executives he might get offered another year
-
Surely better to let Z go for even a small amount? I still can't believe we agreed to pay £8M for him. Why anybody thought that was good business, apart from Dowling and Cardiff, I don;t know.
He just needed time apparently according to Albion fans. Entering year 4, still waiting
-
Surely better to let Z go for even a small amount? I still can't believe we agreed to pay £8M for him. Why anybody thought that was good business, apart from Dowling and Cardiff, I don;t know.
Two things as I see them:
Firstly, no one is going to buy Zohore, so we will have to pay him off for the remainder of his contract. Lets say he's on £25,000 per week (???) and he has about 12 months left on his contract, so £25,000 x 52 = £1.3m, Assume he accepts £1.2m pay off, but his agent would probably want the full contract amount paid up though.
Secondly, Andy Carroll, reportedly, wants £20,000 per week on a 12 month deal, £20,000 x 52 = £1.04m
Keeping Zohore, in financial terms = no loss
Getting rid of Zohore, in financial terms =over £200,000
You can see the financial dilemma the club has, particularly on our tight budget and if we still owe Cardiff on the transfer fee, that also would have to be taken into account as a loss
-
I get the case for keeping Zohore over Carroll - but as others have said it totally sums up what bad business we have done over the last six years.
Andy was very good for us but we can't afford his wages, simple as that. I am glad he has worn our shirt but not glad that it occurred during one of our lowest ebbs as a club.
I wish him well and equally fear for our future.
-
Two things as I see them:
Firstly, no one is going to buy Zohore, so we will have to pay him off for the remainder of his contract. Lets say he's on £25,000 per week (???) and he has about 12 months left on his contract, so £25,000 x 52 = £1.3m, Assume he accepts £1.2m pay off, but his agent would probably want the full contract amount paid up though.
Secondly, Andy Carroll, reportedly, wants £20,000 per week on a 12 month deal, £20,000 x 52 = £1.04m
Keeping Zohore, in financial terms = no loss
Getting rid of Zohore, in financial terms =over £200,000
You can see the financial dilemma the club has, particularly on our tight budget and if we still owe Cardiff on the transfer fee, that also would have to be taken into account as a loss
think Zohore is on £30 plus k a week one of our top earners :o
-
He hasn't but years of poor transfer dealings have tied everyone's hands and feet. We are stuck with the crud until their contracts expire and AC is the first victim of this. I'd rather have him than Zohore.
I think Zohore is entering his last year here thank god. Still with our executives he might get offered another year
You made a good point about bringing in players to suit a style when Ismael was Head Coach.
When the Head Coach moves on, the players don't suit the new H/C's style.
That, & a conflict of interests between DoF & H/C, has probably been the reason we have the current dilema.
-
think Zohore is on £30 plus k a week one of our top earners :o
That can't be his EFL wage though surely. He will be on flex down rate now.
-
Is Brucie having’ a laf?
In the Express & Dingle he’s saying he let Andy Carroll go because he had two number nine strikers…… Dike and Zohore.
If that’s Bruce’s managerial thought process god help us.
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2022/05/02/west-brom-boss-steve-bruce-insists-letting-andy-carroll-go-was-tough-decision/
If he can get a tune out of Zohore he'll be managing Barcelona the season after next.
-
That can't be his EFL wage though surely. He will be on flex down rate now.
We signed him while we were in the championship so
If that what we gave him at the time he will be on that
-
We signed him while we were in the championship so
If that what we gave him at the time he will be on that
Then this could well be one of the worst deals we have ever done.
-
he has about 12 months left on his contract
Ah, I didn't realise he was coming into his last year. Small mercies I suppose!
Loan him out and have the loaning club pay at least part of his wages?
-
Ah, I didn't realise he was coming into his last year. Small mercies I suppose!
Loan him out and have the loaning club pay at least part of his wages?
Some money saved on this field mouse should be seen as a gift.
-
Some money saved on this field mouse should be seen as a gift.
You must have some big fields by you Gaz, he looked like he'd swallowed a settee the last time I saw him ;D .
-
You must have some big fields by you Gaz, he looked like he'd swallowed a settee the last time I saw him ;D .
;D
Sorry he has the heart of a field mouse i meant. You are right, everywhere else he's well oversized
-
;D
Sorry he has the heart of a field mouse i meant. You are right, everywhere else he's well oversized
It appears I haven't observed him as closely as your good self Gaz ;D .
-
That can't be his EFL wage though surely. He will be on flex down rate now.
some of the contract’s given out are ridiculous and that’s why we won’t be able to shift many, Bruce was hoping to move on Kipre and Bartley to secure Clarke on permanent but that decision is up to player’s unless contracts are paid up. Phillips was also believed to be surplus to requirements but his three year deal put shot to that.
-
It appears I haven't observed him as closely as your good self Gaz ;D .
Like a swinging pendulum in the right light Dan :D
-
some of the contract’s given out are ridiculous and that’s why we won’t be able to shift many, Bruce was hoping to move on Kipre and Bartley to secure Clarke on permanent but that decision is up to player’s unless contracts are paid up. Phillips was also believed to be surplus to requirements but his three year deal put shot to that.
Again, sheer insanity by the club to give extended deals out.
-
I think I've seen £20k quoted as his weekly wage on Twitter (I think by Chris Lepkowski).
Assuming that's correct, that's around £1m a year. I'd offer him around £500k, or half the value, to sling his hook, because even now, somebody will be stupid enough to sign him on a free for at least £10k per week.
-
I liked carroll and hes been the pick of our forwards. But if he wants too much money then its the right decision. Shame as his attitude was far better than the rest of them. Thanks Big Andy
He really hasn’t been the pick, looks and runs like a cart horse, scored a couple of goals (his job) and gives the impression he’s bothered….no where near the 20k a week he wanted…
-
I see he has scored away from home at last 😉🍺
-
Looks like the jammy devil scored a brace here :D
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andy-carroll-two-girls-bed-27087698
-
May explain why so many footballers - including 3 of our own - were in the same set of hotels over there last week.
-
Free agent and striker Andy Carroll, 33, is set to rejoin Championship side Reading.
-
Free agent and striker Andy Carroll, 33, is set to rejoin Championship side Reading.
Would suggest Reading are willing to dig deeper into their financial reserves than we are.
Bearing in mind we haven't spent the money freed up by Robinson's transfer.
-
Would suggest Reading are willing to dig deeper into their financial reserves than we are.
Bearing in mind we haven't spent the money freed up by Robinson's transfer.
Not upset that he’s not returning here. Was pleased with his efforts when here last but truly believe that he would slow down the current style of play due to lack of mobility.