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West Bromwich Albion FC Forums => West Bromwich Albion FC => Topic started by: spencer Baggie on June 15, 2014, 06:02:55 PM
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Alan Irvine unveiling due in the coming days.
Whilst I do not feel it is the responsibility of local reporters to vent our anger on our behalf, they should at least be asking the pertinent questions, especially in relation to the back lash this appointment has received.
Steve Madely and Chris L are top local journalists imo. I'd encourage as may of you has possible to tweet them with your comments and questions you'd like to see asked at the presser - sensible though; make sure they have a point to them. Not just a load of vitriol.
Steve Madely - @smadeley_star
Chris L - @chrislepkowski
I asked SM to essentially ask 'does the backlash to the Irvine appointment show that the club is detached from it's fan base' ?
Over to you guys. Tweet them and perhaps leave a comment below with the question you'd like to see the local journalists ask.
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I do like this idea, I think that they know the club well enough to be more than aware of the anger this has caused. I very much think that they know this situation is coming - I second your thoughts and actually think this is a very good channel of communication to go down.
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Do you deliberately make your decisions just so they antaganise the supporters ?
Are you expecting demonstrations about this appointment ?
Whos decision was it to go ahead with pinstripes on the new kit ?
Do you regret any of your decisions ?
Do you realise you are hated by at least 95% of supporters ?
Which team do you actually support ?
Can people have a refund on season tickets ?
Who will be next coach when irvine goes in November ?
Has Downing got photos of you ?
Why are you so tight ?
How do you justify your salary ?
Please sell the club ?
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Could you please quit now Irvine before you even start?
Are you still a miserable git?
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Could you please quit now Irvine before you even start?
Are you still a miserable git?
You forgot arrogant.
He does have coaching badges you know. How many do you have? ;D ;)
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You forgot arrogant.
He does have coaching badges you know. How many do you have? ;D ;)
Yeah but I would sooner have appointed the chap driving the players coach, he has a coach's badge too.
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Jeremy, after your speech saying you take the blame and the same mistakes won't be made again why do you make the mother of all f*** ups and appoint a man who failed at championship/league 1 level???
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Problem is, if the locals antagonise the club too much, we could end up with a Newcastle type situation - where a local paper is openly at war with the owners.
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Ive tweeted chris L and asked him to ask peace one question, What were these mistakes he wanted to learn from as I thought it was appointing inexperience. Maybe he sees a different problem, or maybe he just a tw*t.
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I think asking 'Will you offer fans who are unhappy with this appointment a refund on their season ticket' is a very good question.
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The response on the clubs official Twitter account to Irvine being announced should tell them all they need to know.
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The response on the clubs official Twitter account to Irvine being announced should tell them all they need to know.
Facebook was even worse. Last time I looked they had 1600+ comments in response to the announcement on FB. Then they put something up about Fathers Day and got absolute pelters again.
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How many transfer requests have you had since the announcement ????
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Problem is, if the locals antagonise the club too much, we could end up with a Newcastle type situation - where a local paper is openly at war with the owners.
Put's them in the same boat as the majority of the fans then.
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Facebook was even worse. Last time I looked they had 1600+ comments in response to the announcement on FB. Then they put something up about Fathers Day and got absolute pelters again.
Keep bombarding them with abuse, perhaps the penny will drop!
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Keep bombarding them with abuse, perhaps the penny will drop!
Doubt it! If Dr NO/ Peace has not got it by now he never will.
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Ask him why its taken him so long to get a job in football since leaving Father Ted!
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Whilst I do not feel it is the responsibility of local reporters to vent our anger on our behalf, they should at least be asking the pertinent questions, especially in relation to the back lash this appointment has received.
Steve Madely and Chris L are top local journalists imo. I'd encourage as may of you has possible to tweet them with your comments and questions you'd like to see asked at the presser - sensible though; make sure they have a point to them. Not just a load of vitriol.
Steve Madely - @smadeley_star
Chris L - @chrislepkowski
When they're sometimes accused of being overly negative about the club, they keep stressing how they're simply doing their job and reporting news, whether it's good or bad. The dismay felt by so many Albion fans over this appointment is undeniably news, so they should reflect it in the articles they write in the coming days. Madeley's reference yesterday to "....the prospect of a luke warm reaction from supporters...." was laughable, given what was already unfolding. I hope he's got the message loud and clear now.
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Very disappointed to read paragraphs full of patronising rubbish from Ally Robertson this morning.
Link: Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-ally-robertson-7271809)
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Who else thinks that the first comment from Chris Lepkowski since his holiday is biased towards the Club/Irvine:
Link: Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-lepkowski-west-bromwich-albion-7271829)
For example, Chris L mentions that Darren Carter reckons Irvine is meticulous in his preparation, but doesn't say anything about the views of quite a few Sheff Wed fans that Irvine served up the worst football they'd seen for 20 years. Chris L also doesn't mention the bizarre tactical "nous" that led Irvine to use 4 central midfielders in 4-4-2 formations.
Like it or not, the Club is now in a situation that can't be whitewashed.
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Very disappointed to read paragraphs full of patronising rubbish from Ally Robertson this morning.
Link: Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-ally-robertson-7271809)
Patronising how?
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Who else thinks that the first comment from Chris Lepkowski since his holiday is biased towards the Club/Irvine:
Link: Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-lepkowski-west-bromwich-albion-7271829)
For example, Chris L mentions that Darren Carter reckons Irvine is meticulous in his preparation, but doesn't say anything about the views of quite a few Sheff Wed fans that Irvine served up the worst football they'd seen for 20 years. Chris L also doesn't mention the bizarre tactical "nous" that led Irvine to use 4 central midfielders in 4-4-2 formations.
Like it or not, the Club is now in a situation that can't be whitewashed.
Not biased towards the club at all. He is very critical of JP in the last few paragraphs.
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I thought CL's article was pretty fair to all parties to be honest , interesting he brings up our limited squad already.
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Birmingham Mail reporter will be at Hawthorns today - anybody wanting to get their voice heard, with/without banners, or to highlight season ticket refund, make sure you seek them out.
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Patronising how?
I would have thought it was obvious - by saying we all need to be good boys and girls and get behind the decision. Unless Irvine does something remarkable in his first few games, backing the decision just isn't going to happen for many fans.
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Where are press conferences usually held these days, at the training ground?
Does anyone know when the press conference for our new head coach will be?
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Where are press conferences usually held these days, at the training ground?
London probably! ;D
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London probably! ;D
;D
In all seriousness though, i'd be tempted to sit outside the gates and welcome the press and new manager (sorry head coach) with a message or two.
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I think the London office is a good call actually!
JP won't have to travel
Local to national journo's
most importantly, Isolates club from pesky customers
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Does anyone know where the London office is?
I need the postal address anyway (seems quicker than writing to JP at the Hawthorns).
Just done a quick Google but can't find anything.
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dude, wasting your time, I wrote and phoned him his secretary Marlene, told me that he is unavailable to speak with fans.
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Just spoke to a director at the club, won't name him as he is a friend, and basically all the staff are bemused and shocked at the decision to appoint Irvine and there has not been one say anything different.
Some sponsors and would be sponsors have requested a statement from peace and some have withdrawn their offers, and have been inundated with requests for money back on lots of deposits for boxes and executive seats.
The rebellion has begun.
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Just spoke to a director at the club, won't name him as he is a friend, and basically all the staff are bemused and shocked at the decision to appoint Irvine and there has not been one say anything different.
Some sponsors and would be sponsors have requested a statement from peace and some have withdrawn their offers, and have been inundated with requests for money back on lots of deposits for boxes and executive seats.
The rebellion has begun.
Shows how powerful Peace is within the club
The other Directors have no say in major decisions at the club as Peace makes them all
I used to defend the way he ran WBA but this is indefensible
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Just spoke to a director at the club, won't name him as he is a friend, and basically all the staff are bemused and shocked at the decision to appoint Irvine and there has not been one say anything different.
Some sponsors and would be sponsors have requested a statement from peace and some have withdrawn their offers, and have been inundated with requests for money back on lots of deposits for boxes and executive seats.
The rebellion has begun.
Your Friend must be as confused as us bog standard lot! wtf is he thinking?
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dude, wasting your time, I wrote and phoned him his secretary Marlene, told me that he is unavailable to speak with fans.
That's useful info. I anticipated as much.
Still, has anyone got the address? ;D
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That's useful info. I anticipated as much.
Still, has anyone got the address? ;D
Here you go.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails (http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails)
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Try emailing
Mark.jenkins@wbafc.co.uk
He probably won't reply but if loads of fans email you may just get it through to him that no one is happy
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http://companycheck.co.uk/company/05244584
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Unveiling will be Wednesday at noon.
I assume it will be at the Hawthorns or at the training ground and I doubt very highly that Peace will attend. It will be Burton and/or Garlick with him if anybody.
If the press don't ask the difficult questions I'd be very disappointed.
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Shows how powerful Peace is within the club
The other Directors have no say in major decisions at the club as Peace makes them all
I used to defend the way he ran WBA but this is indefensible
Directors in name only most of them
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That's useful info. I anticipated as much.
Still, has anyone got the address? ;D
Go and erect your banner
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Chris L just confirmed to me on Twitter that it will be at the stadium.
If there is to be a protest, I would suggest those of you that are able to attend, arrange something for Wednesday morning. Sometimes I wish I didn't live and work in London. I'd be there in a flash.
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That's useful info. I anticipated as much.
Still, has anyone got the address? ;D
Try his sidekick mark.jenkins@wbafc.co.uk
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If anyone has any joy with a refund please could you keep us posted, my 3 kids and myself are considering a refund if its not messy.
I was very undecided when I got it , now I feel conned.
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Try emailing
Mark.jenkins@wbafc.co.uk
He probably won't reply but if loads of fans email you may just get it through to him that no one is happy
Done
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If anyone has any joy with a refund please could you keep us posted, my 3 kids and myself are considering a refund if its not messy.
I was very undecided when I got it , now I feel conned.
I have written to Jenkins.If we all do the same i am sure it will have some effect
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Just spoke to a director at the club, won't name him as he is a friend, and basically all the staff are bemused and shocked at the decision to appoint Irvine and there has not been one say anything different.
Some sponsors and would be sponsors have requested a statement from peace and some have withdrawn their offers, and have been inundated with requests for money back on lots of deposits for boxes and executive seats.
The rebellion has begun.
That's very interesting, Foreverbaggie, thank you for sharing. I hope some of the Peace apologists read it carefully. The straw that breaks the camel's back might finally have appeared.
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I have written to Jekins.If we all do the same i am sure it will have some effect
Don't bank on it, he is more bombastic than Peace, however if enough people keep on to him then it may do something, I hope
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Pat Murphy just confirmed on twitter that Burton will be handling press conference.
Peace ducks out once again. Obviously has full faith in his appointment.
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Pat Murphy just confirmed on twitter that Burton will be handling press conference.
Peace ducks out once again. Obviously has full faith in his appointment.
Mmm his silence speaks volumes
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Pat Murphy just confirmed on twitter that Burton will be handling press conference.
Peace ducks out once again. Obviously has full faith in his appointment.
Coward >:(
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Just spoke to a director at the club, won't name him as he is a friend, and basically all the staff are bemused and shocked at the decision to appoint Irvine and there has not been one say anything different.
Some sponsors and would be sponsors have requested a statement from peace and some have withdrawn their offers, and have been inundated with requests for money back on lots of deposits for boxes and executive seats.
The rebellion has begun.
I've just had a long telephone conversation with somebody very close to someone on the board, can't name her for obvious reasons, somewhat surprisingly she has said exactly the opposite to what you've posted, many of the staff have met AI & are quite impressed with him, also no potential sponsors have pulled out or made any demands.
She did say that fans have contacted the club regarding refunds & that is ongoing.
Maybe the rebellion will be put on hold until JP does actually kill somebody
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I've just had a long telephone conversation with somebody very close to someone on the board, can't name her for obvious reasons, somewhat surprisingly she has said exactly the opposite to what you've posted, many of the staff have met AI & are quite impressed with him, also no potential sponsors have pulled out or made any demands.
She did say that fans have contacted the club regarding refunds & that is ongoing.
Maybe the rebellion will be put on hold until JP does actually kill somebody
We'll I'm sorry that is not the information I have, which has come from not just a director but other members of staff, and I can assure you a number of sponsors have requested reviews and withdrawal of funds because I personally know more than one of them, your source is obviously being fed information on a need to know basis, and one that will not be alarmist, but the concerns are increasing.
A very we'll known advertiser in the ground has already requested his boards be removed, a local company.
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We'll I'm sorry that is not the information I have, which has come from not just a director but other members of staff, and I can assure you a number of sponsors have requested reviews and withdrawal of funds because I personally know more than one of them, your source is obviously being fed information on a need to know basis, and one that will not be alarmist, but the concerns are increasing.
A very we'll known advertiser in the ground has already requested his boards be removed, a local company.
This is all very scary
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This is all very scary
Furthermore, why is there such a long delay in naming the main sponsor, could it be there has been a snag?
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We'll I'm sorry that is not the information I have, which has come from not just a director but other members of staff, and I can assure you a number of sponsors have requested reviews and withdrawal of funds because I personally know more than one of them, your source is obviously being fed information on a need to know basis, and one that will not be alarmist, but the concerns are increasing.
A very we'll known advertiser in the ground has already requested his boards be removed, a local company.
Nonsense, you remind me of another poster who used to bull all the time aswell!
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Nonsense, you remind me of another poster who used to bull all the time aswell!
And you know this is nonsense because?
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And you know this is nonsense because?
Because you have thousands of other fans claiming to be ITK and it's the most annoying gripe I have every summer, I feel sorry for the people who make it up just to get some form of attention.
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And you know this is nonsense because?
Stop scaremongering. You are talking nonsense and I hope people ignore your silly posts about having imaginary contacts.
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We'll I'm sorry that is not the information I have, which has come from not just a director but other members of staff, and I can assure you a number of sponsors have requested reviews and withdrawal of funds because I personally know more than one of them, your source is obviously being fed information on a need to know basis, and one that will not be alarmist, but the concerns are increasing.
A very we'll known advertiser in the ground has already requested his boards be removed, a local company.
So in essence, your information is 100% correct from your 'source' & what you've provided sounds quite alarming on the face of it & shows JP & the board's decision making in a really bad light! therefore my source must be being fed 'need to know' info that will only show the appointment of Irvine in a positive light......hmmmm the plots thickens..........I know which 'source' I believe.
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Stop scaremongering. You are talking nonsense and I hope people ignore your silly posts about having imaginary contacts.
I wasted 10 minutes writing something that you said in 10 seconds....Touche
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I don't know either poster who claims to have sources, nor do I know the sources themselves, and I'm guessing no one else does either. Therefore it's very difficult to dismiss either as nonsense or rubbish.
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Dont forget to tune into the Albion show at 6 on WM tonight folks
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Dont forget to tune into the Albion show at 6 on WM tonight folks
should be phone in gold
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And you know this is nonsense because?
Yesterday you were suggesting you knew about AI's credentials as you had heard personally from Billy Jones, Richard Chaplow and Craig Beattie and they had divulged what they had thought of him. Today it comes to light that you have another source.. who just so happens to be a director of a business that is a major advertiser in the ground. Right you are.
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This is just blowing my mind, sat back and read great posts back and forth, arguments, itk statements, I've changed my mind several times.
I want my club back, don't really care who is running it, coaching it, playing in it or watching it. Just want my club back. We were envied by so many other fans for our football style and great fans.......
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Yesterday you were suggesting you knew about AI's credentials as you had heard personally from Billy Jones, Richard Chaplow and Craig Beattie and they had divulged what they had thought of him. Today it comes to light that you have another source.. who just so happens to be a director of a business that is a major advertiser in the ground. Right you are.
it's Fireymoose i'm sure of it
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it's Fireymoose i'm sure of it
If it is I'd be surprised if admin / mods weren't already aware of it. They are very good at sniffing out things like that.
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This is just blowing my mind, sat back and read great posts back and forth, arguments, itk statements, I've changed my mind several times.
I want my club back, don't really care who is running it, coaching it, playing in it or watching it. Just want my club back. We were envied by so many other fans for our football style and great fans.......
His football is worse than Clarkes i am lead to beleive
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I wasted 10 minutes writing something that you said in 10 seconds....Touche
Ok if you wish to believe what you believe then no more information shall I give :-X
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Ok if you wish to believe what you believe then no more information shall I give :-X
Don't worry me mon, I don't care if what you posted was billy bullsh!t or full on facts, it made sense to me, theres a hardcore of people on here that would believe sh!t was sugar if JP said so, you know the real fans, the very beating heart of WBA, the ones that know so much more than you and I, there voice is worth 2 of ours, legends
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Don't worry me mon, I don't care if what you posted was billy bullsh!t or full on facts, it made sense to me, theres a hardcore of people on here that would believe sh!t was sugar if JP said so, you know the real fans, the very beating heart of WBA, the ones that know so much more than you and I, there voice is worth 2 of ours, legends
I realise that, so it's not worth sharing the info to be honest in future, if they wish to stay ignorant and believe all the bull Peace gives out that's their life
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It may be true that some sponsors may pull out if there albion fans but the main sponsors couldn't care less about the manager, the club to them is just an advertising banner.
The only people that will be annoyed with this are the supporters and even though im hacked off with the appointment Ill no doubt still be there next season because the albion are my club. Peace can feck off and im behind anything that will help that after what he has done and we need to vent our anger to them. Remember the Ashley out protests at Newcastle, didn't work did they, so these owners don't give a toss about us, the club is a money making machine nowt else.
What need is a new song that the bald git will hear every game.... We know what we are, we are the albion and this is our club,club,club...Get the bald twonk out, get the bald twonk out, out of our club we are the albion and this is our club.
hahaha making me chuckle now
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It may be true that some sponsors may pull out if there albion fans but the main sponsors couldn't care less about the manager, the club to them is just an advertising banner.
The only people that will be annoyed with this are the supporters and even though im hacked off with the appointment Ill no doubt still be there next season because the albion are my club. Peace can feck off and im behind anything that will help that after what he has done and we need to vent our anger to them. Remember the Ashley out protests at Newcastle, didn't work did they, so these owners don't give a toss about us, the club is a money making machine nowt else.
What need is a new song that the bald git will hear every game.... We know what we are, we are the albion and this is our club,club,club...Get the bald twonk out, get the bald twonk out, out of our club we are the albion and this is our club.
hahaha making me chuckle now
"All we are saying
Is Peace can f*$k off,
All we are saying
Is Peace can f*$k off".
Repeat ad nauseam.
edit: with apologies to John for nicking a peace anthem and directing it a very different kind of Peace.
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It may be true that some sponsors may pull out if there albion fans but the main sponsors couldn't care less about the manager, the club to them is just an advertising banner.
The only people that will be annoyed with this are the supporters and even though im hacked off with the appointment Ill no doubt still be there next season because the albion are my club. Peace can feck off and im behind anything that will help that after what he has done and we need to vent our anger to them. Remember the Ashley out protests at Newcastle, didn't work did they, so these owners don't give a toss about us, the club is a money making machine nowt else.
What need is a new song that the bald git will hear every game.... We know what we are, we are the albion and this is our club,club,club...Get the bald twonk out, get the bald twonk out, out of our club we are the albion and this is our club.
hahaha making me chuckle now
He will set the stewards on you, like he did with my mate when he held up his Pepe flag
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I think a song is good idea as well as are the banners, but they will get removed.
Listening to liquidator last season reminded me of what we have been robbed of, now peace is taking more or so it seems. A good leader of the ship would have released a statement today and attempt to defuse the situation.
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I really think the local journalists have to go in all guns blazing. Maybe JP is hoping they will go a bit easy with Burton taking the questions but as he seems to have played a large part in this nonsensical appointment i sincerly hope that he kops plenty of the flak the whole of the clubs hierarchy deserve!!
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no support at all for the appointment of Alan Irvine on the WM phone in.Not a single vote of confidence, oh one woman said give him a chance which i am sure will all wil. How long has he got
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no support at all for the appointment of Alan Irvine on the WM phone in.Not a single vote of confidence, oh one woman said give him a chance which i am sure will all wil. How long has he got
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I said earlier he'll be gone by Christmas and after 5weeks due diligence Downing will be in charge to the old tune of 'Keith was always our number one candidate'