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West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
Championship Play Off Semi Final 2nd Leg
14th May 2019 20.00pm
Please use this board for all your After Match Debate. Away fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
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West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
Championship Play Off Semi Final 2nd Leg
14th May 2019 20.00pm
Please use this board for all your In Game Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
Please keep this board Albion related, there are boards elsewhere in General Sports to discuss other games
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West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
Championship Play Off Semi Final 2nd Leg
14th May 2019 20.00pm
Please use this board for all your Pre Match Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
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West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa
Championship Play Off Semi Final 2nd Leg
14th May 2019 20.00pm
PRICES
Allocation:
£20/23 Adults, £15/17 Seniors 65+, £15 U23/ Student £10 U18, £5 U11, £10 Disabled
SALE DATES
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/may/play-offs-home-leg-ticket-details/
For upto date ticket info
CLICK HERE (http://www.wba.co.uk/tickets/)
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The away allocation is usually closer to 3,000 at The Hawthorns but the Baggies are unable to resell those tickets to home fans due to security concerns and segregation issues in the concourse of the Smethwick End.
Therefore, there will be hundreds of empty seats in the Villa end of the second leg of the play-off semi-final.
Which is fair enough , would rather have empty seats then a full away allocation but why didn’t they agree on 1800 which can be safely segregated? Just 200 tickets less would open up another 1000 tickets for Albion fans. Madness
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The away allocation is usually closer to 3,000 at The Hawthorns but the Baggies are unable to resell those tickets to home fans due to security concerns and segregation issues in the concourse of the Smethwick End.
Therefore, there will be hundreds of empty seats in the Villa end of the second leg of the play-off semi-final.
Which is fair enough , would rather have empty seats then a full away allocation but why didn’t they agree on 1800 which can be safely segregated? Just 200 tickets less would open up another 1000 tickets for Albion fans. Madness
4.3 The Visiting Club shall have the right to claim 2,000 tickets for use by its supporters (or such number as represents 10% of all tickets reserved or otherwise sold in advance, if less than 2,000). The following conditions shall apply:
https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/sky-bet-play-offs/playoff-rules--regulations/
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Anybody else having issues with the website? Got through the queue system but then it isnt giving me the option to purchase my seat and isnt showing up that my seat is available either?
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Anybody else having issues with the website? Got through the queue system but then it isnt giving me the option to purchase my seat and isnt showing up that my seat is available either?
I’m just going to wait a few hours to be honest, going to be loads on there at this time and the website is never the best when it’s packed
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Anybody else having issues with the website? Got through the queue system but then it isnt giving me the option to purchase my seat and isnt showing up that my seat is available either?
Yep, same here.
Even the website isn't up to it
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I've done mine. Took about 30 mins of waiting in queue, delays and timing out's but it's finally gone through. Checked my EMails to see confirmation but nothing come through yet. Will double check later just to be sure there isn't an issue but fingers crossed should be OK.
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Credit to Albion - system worked excellently to get through the queue. However website is dying a death...
Anyone got through and booked yet?
Other gripe is about the qualification of the away game at villa - I expected it to be on loyalty points, not the number of games.
my loyalty points are correct but the criteria is now on the number of away games you attended. My son and I went to 8, but booked 6 ourselves. Problem being I am credited with both Leeds tickets! He therefore can only prove 5! Plus another game he went to, the loyalty points were put on manually, so he has the five points butit doesn't say Blackburn away...
Aarrggghh.
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looks like the servers gone down now
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Loads of problems for me too. One hour wasted so far
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The website says closed for maintenance what's going on
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The website says closed for maintenance what's going on
I’ve tried 3 devices, no joy at all. going to leave until later as the frustration is doing me no good at all.
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System providers are doing some upgrades following the high demand and usage this morning
you would have thought they would have planned for that in advance
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Website handles pressure the same way Bartley does!
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Tin pot site from a tin pot outfit.
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Loads of problems for me too. One hour wasted so far
Website closed for maintenance. ;D
Just about sums us up
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After waiting in the queue three times now the site has crashed absolute joke at times we really are.
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All 2018/19 season-ticket holders are guaranteed at least their existing seat if they purchase within the first three days of sale, no rush.
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In the queue now, 35 minutes wait, lets see what happens
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45 minute wait now
Anyone know what time next are open till today?
Need some shopping :D
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All 2018/19 season-ticket holders are guaranteed at least their existing seat if they purchase within the first three days of sale, no rush.
That's not really the point. If they go on sale at 9 am today then fans have a right to purchase them at 9 am today. The club should have everything in place to make sure fans can do just that.
Good job we ain't Barcelona with 90,000 tickets to sell. ;D
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I've done mine. Took about 30 mins of waiting in queue, delays and timing out's but it's finally gone through. Checked my EMails to see confirmation but nothing come through yet. Will double check later just to be sure there isn't an issue but fingers crossed should be OK.
EMail has come through now so all good.
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I was 2 minutes away from the front of the queue. 15 minutes ago :D
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Its working fine now once your through the queue now.
COYB
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So ive got through the queue but when i click on the smethwick end where my season ticket is based its saying there are no tickets available?
Not great with all this online stuff so any advice off anyone lol?
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So ive got through the queue but when i click on the smethwick end where my season ticket is based its saying there are no tickets available?
Not great with all this online stuff so any advice off anyone lol?
You need to click on "reserved ticket"s. You'll find it there. Don't go to the stadium plan.
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Got to the web page at last only to get page 404 page not found joke of a club
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Tin pot site from a tin pot outfit.
I've actually been considering sending an email offering my services
I think our commercial department, website and facilities management are terrible.
I have no doubt I could seriously increase revenue streams across nearly all areas of the club...
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You need to click on "reserved ticket"s. You'll find it there. Don't go to the stadium plan.
Cheers mate all sorted much appreciated.
Now lets get on with hammering this vile lot and get to wembley!
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I went to reserved tickets and it was blank I've got 2 season tickets
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I went to reserved tickets and it was blank I've got 2 season tickets
Sign out and sign in again, see if that makes a difference ....??
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Just tried it still no joy
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Although I'm not entirely confident they'll be added to our Stile Cards, that's our three seats sorted. I think I'll print off the sale confirmation email just in case. Got to the front of the queue to enter the ticket site on three occasions only to have to start again. What an absolute ball ache. How any football club/company can schedule site maintenance for the first day of ticket sales is truly baffling. Bloody farcical, catch onto yourselves Albion.
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Although I'm not entirely confident they'll be added to our Stile Cards, that's our three seats sorted. I think I'll print off the sale confirmation email just in case. Got to the front of the queue to enter the ticket site on three occasions only to have to start again. What an absolute ball ache. How any football club/company can schedule site maintenance for the first day of ticket sales is truly baffling. Bloody farcical, catch onto yourselves Albion.
I always do and have needed it, I sort out mine and my old mans, think it was League Cup game this season his hadn't been added and he couldn't get in, luckily i'd printed it off and took it so they let him in.
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FFS tried 3 times this morning no joy, told me to enable cookies (already were. I've bought online tickets many times).
been waiting for over 2 hrs and the time keeps jumping from 4 minutes, to 6 minutes now saying 10 minutes...number of people in front of me has gone up from 121 to 151....thought I was in a managed queue?!
This is what happens when you don't allow telephone booking.
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Although I'm not entirely confident they'll be added to our Stile Cards, that's our three seats sorted. I think I'll print off the sale confirmation email just in case. Got to the front of the queue to enter the ticket site on three occasions only to have to start again. What an absolute ball ache. How any football club/company can schedule site maintenance for the first day of ticket sales is truly baffling. Bloody farcical, catch onto yourselves Albion.
Yeah I'll do that as well.
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Waited for nearly 2 hrs again only to be told I don't have cookies enabled. I do . This is driving me mad.
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So now I have timed out and over 6000 in front of me I've h ad enough now and I bet the ticket office will only open 9-5 aswell
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What an absolute farce.
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Although I'm not entirely confident they'll be added to our Stile Cards, that's our three seats sorted. I think I'll print off the sale confirmation email just in case. Got to the front of the queue to enter the ticket site on three occasions only to have to start again. What an absolute ball ache. How any football club/company can schedule site maintenance for the first day of ticket sales is truly baffling. Bloody farcical, catch onto yourselves Albion.
I don't think they are.
I was given the option for delivery or print at home, so assume they're not added to our stile cards
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I don't think they are.
I was given the option for delivery or print at home, so assume they're not added to our stile cards
There is definitely that option although on the first page it comes up as delivery. It does give you the option at the next stage.
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Just tried & I'm number 13376 with over 6000 & over an hours wait in front of me.
If we've got 15000 STH's. think I'll wait until tomorrow
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At this rate I'll do well to secure my ticket for just before kick off :-\
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just before you go to the check out there is a drop down for adding to your stile card but here is plenty of time for home delivery, chill I joined the queue, mowed me lawn, looked at the position in queue, did the borders sat had a cup of tea just in time to sort it. If your a sth just chill plenty of time clock watching makes it frustrating and gets you onto the site no quicker.
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Hopenit is not like this tomorrow for the away tickets!
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Hopenit is not like this tomorrow for the away tickets!
Shouldn't be. 2000 away tickets vs 17,000 home STH's. Shouldn't be a problem. That said don't know how many HST holders are still having problems. If I were you I'd be right up the ticket office the second they open the doors.
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Anyone been able to buy online I got to number 44 then it froxZe now it’s saying more than 1 hour wait 5643 ahead of me
Why didn’t they do a different stand each day.?
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4 hours in the queue and got the 6 I wanted with no problems (before anyone says you can buy for your friends and family who are season ticket holders). That's 5 less people in the queue :D
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This is a disgrace.
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The queue now appears to have been paused ???
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The queue now appears to have been paused ???
Have they closed for the day? ;D
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Spent the whole day on and off trying to get tickets.
Twice timed out when in queue but for the last hour or so the site has been down for maintenance.
Only Albion could mess this up.
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Do the club realise the internet doesn’t have s closing time on websites ;D closed due to maintenance :D
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Seems to be moving again now. I've gone from 6777 to 6748 in just an hour ;D
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All seems to be running smoothly now. Ticket bought.
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All booked, what a nightmare that was ;D
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Got mine, seems to be processing 1000 every 5 mins now. I only had to wait about 20 mins.
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Apparently I have a duplicate account it's took almost 12hours to be told still no tickets
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Got mine. System is not working properly as I'm only a member....
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Logged on this morning and all sorted in less than 5 minutes
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Wife got ours in about half an hour last night with no real problem.
More concerned about the away one now :o
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Home season tickets need to got to Reserved tickets section, not home tickets - a bit confusing if you're not used to the system.
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Website not allowing me to buy a second ticket.
I have assigned owners, yet it is not letting me continue.
Farce.
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Website not allowing me to buy a second ticket.
I have assigned owners, yet it is not letting me continue.
Farce.
Same here
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Same here. Farce this is!
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Massive queues at the Hawthorns ticket office if anyone is planning to go down. Currently stretches down to the peace Garden..
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Massive queues at the Hawthorns ticket office if anyone is planning to go down. Currently stretches down to the peace Garden..
Hope they're having more luck than us
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Just phoned and got my ticket and have heard a disgraceful story of a fan phoning up and swearing at the ticket office staff cause of his ticket he got for Derby :o On a day like today I ask you.
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Just got the extra tickets.
Must have sorted the 'glitch'
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Are members only allowed 1 ticket? I ask as a member who's been to 6 home games this year (difficult to go when at uni) with my dad but only I have membership and he doesn't (he's been to all the games I have). So will I only be able to get 1 ticket for myself and nothing for him?
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The line for disabled supporters is ridiculous.
Practically impossible to get through.
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The line for disabled supporters is ridiculous.
Practically impossible to get through.
Liam I got though this morning no problem.
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Liam I got though this morning no problem.
Can you PM me the number Kev - the club sent me one yesterday but want to clarify the number.
I've tried about 18 times over the course of this morning.
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Are members only allowed 1 ticket? I ask as a member who's been to 6 home games this year (difficult to go when at uni) with my dad but only I have membership and he doesn't (he's been to all the games I have). So will I only be able to get 1 ticket for myself and nothing for him?
Correct, it's one ticket per member.
Follow the link below and look on the right hand side where it says 'ticket allocation'.....
https://wbatickets.co.uk/custom/documents/pdf/WBAFC%20Ticket%20Info%20Page%20(Aston%20Villa%20Semi%20Final).pdf
..... if you or your dad know a season ticket holder, they would be able to purchase one for him though.
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Tickets being sold already on facebook £80 is one asking price. Bloody disgusting.
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Bit dumb as they can identify the seat being sold. Just ask for a photo as proof of existence.
Wonder if the club's bothered. Hope so considering the high profile.
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Are members only allowed 1 ticket? I ask as a member who's been to 6 home games this year (difficult to go when at uni) with my dad but only I have membership and he doesn't (he's been to all the games I have). So will I only be able to get 1 ticket for myself and nothing for him?
Im in same boat, I have membership but my lad doesnt and has attended 12 home games ive been to, im on website trying to buy him membership but wont let me, hopeful of trying to sort something
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Im in same boat, I have membership but my lad doesnt and has attended 12 home games ive been to, im on website trying to buy him membership but wont let me, hopeful of trying to sort something
They've stopped selling memberships until next season.
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Can season ticket holders log on to the site to see what seats are still available via the pick your seat screens or can you only buy your own seat ticket?
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Can season ticket holders log on to the site to see what seats are still available via the pick your seat screens or can you only buy your own seat ticket?
Yes
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Been a member here along time. Would really appreciate it if someone could get me a ticket for the home game. Pay immediately and buy you a nice drink. X Think they will be gone by Thursday
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Does any one think there will be any left on friday, ive been to 12 home games this season, and only just realised I didnt get membership this year!!!
Disaster
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https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/may/home-leg-tickets-latest/
Latest news.
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And yet Vile fans will still get into the home areas!!!
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And yet Vile fans will still get into the home areas!!!
If they do and it kicks off, then the club will know who sold the ticket and they should be banned.
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Yeah i've kinda given up on getting a ticket at the hawthorns. TV it is i think. I'm a member, been to around 15 games this season in total.
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Yeah i've kinda given up on getting a ticket at the hawthorns. TV it is i think. I'm a member, been to around 15 games this season in total.
In reality a season ticket would have been cheaper than those 15 games at gate prices and you would have got 7-8 more games and guaranteed a villa ticket, you can even pay monthly direct debit to spread cost (I sound like a salesman here but its true)
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If they do and it kicks off, then the club will know who sold the ticket and they should be banned.
But they always manage to get in.
Was anyone ever banned when it was Fergie's last game and there were warnings about reselling tickets on that day. Certainly quite a few man u fans in that day?
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But they always manage to get in.
Was anyone ever banned when it was Fergie's last game and there were warnings about reselling tickets on that day. Certainly quite a few man u fans in that day?
Remember Chelsea fans in the Brummie when they won the league. Fans who sold there tickets to the Chelsea fans were banned.
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But they always manage to get in.
Was anyone ever banned when it was Fergie's last game and there were warnings about reselling tickets on that day. Certainly quite a few man u fans in that day?
I think a lot of games see the odd opposition fans in the other end. I know for a fact some Albion fans who are in with the Villa lot at Villa Park. It happens, always has always will.
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Only 2 tickets remaining now.
For those that still haven't got one it will all depend on whether HST holders have taken up their seat (who wouldn't?!)
Can't see there being many that won't go.
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Only 2 tickets remaining now.
For those that still haven't got one it will all depend on whether HST holders have taken up their seat (who wouldn't?!)
Can't see there being many that won't go.
This doesn't sound good for me as someone eligible to get one tomorrow. I am hoping the club have taken a few more out and held some back for tomorrow. This scenario has proven Kirk's concerns about none being left for members to be accurate, especially in light of the offer for season ticket holders to purchase additional tickets taken away this morning.
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Remember Chelsea fans in the Brummie when they won the league. Fans who sold there tickets to the Chelsea fans were banned.
I didn't know that Kev. Do you know how many were banned? I had a few Chelsea chaps sat a few rows behind me. When they eventually scored they obviously gave it the big 'yes!!!! Get in!!!' When they were challenged by others it all started with the old 'Do you want some????' Idiots - I really hope the people who sold the tickets were banned.
I have had a couple of requests from the pyjama wearing fans asking if I can get them a ticket. My reply is always sex and travel.
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This doesn't sound good for me as someone eligible to get one tomorrow. I am hoping the club have taken a few more out and held some back for tomorrow. This scenario has proven Kirk's concerns about none being left for members to be accurate, especially in light of the offer for season ticket holders to purchase additional tickets taken away this morning.
Sorry to hear that mate.
I would have helped you or anybody out on here who was stuck for a ticket, but I got my daughter a ticket with my additional ticket for being a HSTH. She has been to 16 home games this season (2 away's as well) so she isn't coming out of the woodwork :)
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Sorry to hear that mate.
I would have helped you or anybody out on here who was stuck for a ticket, but I got my daughter a ticket with my additional ticket for being a HSTH. She has been to 16 home games this season (2 away's as well) so she isn't coming out of the woodwork :)
No problem and thanks for the offer. Always a risk when not holding a season ticket that you'll miss out on a ticket to a big game and although as a member it would be nice to have the opportunity to get a ticket before season ticket holder's plus ones, the membership was only a fiver so can't really complain.
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Hawthorns sold out now by the looks of it, ive just been on the website anyway and zero available. After last nights match the first leg is almost irrelevant result wise, all about the home leg, bring em on!!!
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No problem and thanks for the offer. Always a risk when not holding a season ticket that you'll miss out on a ticket to a big game and although as a member it would be nice to have the opportunity to get a ticket before season ticket holder's plus ones, the membership was only a fiver so can't really complain.
I always was a member until last season when they disgracefully tripled the price. I didn't bother getting one again this season, but after this and only getting lucky because my Dad's a HSTH I'll have to get one next season.
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In reality a season ticket would have been cheaper than those 15 games at gate prices and you would have got 7-8 more games and guaranteed a villa ticket, you can even pay monthly direct debit to spread cost (I sound like a salesman here but its true)
Dont know if its same problem as me but due to work commitments I cant commit to all games, just go whenever im am off
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Dont know if its same problem as me but due to work commitments I cant commit to all games, just go whenever im am off
But price wise if you attend 15 out the 23, say 20-25 each thats over £300, a season tickets only £330, matches you cant attend I believe you can sell back to the club (or you used to be able too anyway)
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This doesn't sound good for me as someone eligible to get one tomorrow. I am hoping the club have taken a few more out and held some back for tomorrow. This scenario has proven Kirk's concerns about none being left for members to be accurate, especially in light of the offer for season ticket holders to purchase additional tickets taken away this morning.
There was an announcement on the @wbasupport twitter account this morning, that HST's could no longer buy additional tickets to give members a chance for tickets tomorrow.
I'm a HST holder, & I logged in to see if I could buy an additional ticket, but I had a sold out message in all areas.
It looks as though the system will only recognise account numbers in the "members" category now, so you might be ok.
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So after my pelava today failing to obtain away tickets thanks to the system cock up not recognising we met the criteria. I also then came home to find ONE of our 3 tickets for the home leg had been delivered to us today - Despite having also checked the "add to stile card" option rather than the delivery option. So... is it one our stile cards? 2 of them? do I need the ticket for it? have no idea.
I don't trust one jot what they've done with these tickets now and i'll have to check with the ticket office during their readily available hou... oh wait, that's right, they only open 9-5 when i'm at work and have switched off the phones...
This has been so poorly dealt with is not even funny.
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
We have a rubbish ticketing system, and a rubbish team too mate, now go away and come back and gloat when you have sold your Wembley tickets.
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
I thought your clocks hadn't gone forward since 1982 so how do you know about the 90's.
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
Most probably because you lot only have to type in the word 'Deluded' in order to qualify for a ticket. ;)
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
Your lot also advertised final tickets before your total humiliation at the hands of 3rd tier Bradford in the league Cup semi final.
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
You have Albion mates, this is very concerning
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Very long shot, but if anyone cant make it, or any members fancy getting me a ticket, I will love you for ever!!
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My mate went to the Hawthorns this morning at 9.00am and got a ticket no problem there was roughly 50 people in front of him. His words to me where "there are plenty left", so if you can get down there give it a try.
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My mate went to the Hawthorns this morning at 9.00am and got a ticket no problem there was roughly 50 people in front of him. His words to me where "there are plenty left", so if you can get down there give it a try.
Is he a member?
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Is he a member?
No Season ticket holder but the ticket was for his grandson.
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No Season ticket holder but the ticket was for his grandson.
I dont qualify for ticket until tomorrow though as not sth or member
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Heard there are around 3,000 left.
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I managed to get tickets this morning with relative ease. Sorted out my brothers and mine (both members having attended more than two games as per the stipulated requirement) and then tried my luck for a third for my dad but under my name and much to my amazement I was able to. There did seem to be plenty about so I think most will be satisfied. Clearly with yesterday's withdrawal to season ticket holders to get an extra ticket, they have held some back, along with some season ticket holders not booking their seats. Fair play to the club, it means members have had an opportunity and also my experience was extremely smooth online.
I hope Kirk, a vocal critic of the arrangement on here, has been able to get one. Kie the baggie, it won't let me get back on the system now, shame I didn't see your message earlier. I dare say however that you will be able to get one, there did appear to be plenty left.
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Thanks for the thought my friend heres hoping
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Yeah I’ve brought one today because I’m a member and also let me buy one in my mates name who wasn’t a member so people maybe in luck if they try today.
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Yeah I’ve brought one today because I’m a member and also let me buy one in my mates name who wasn’t a member so people maybe in luck if they try today.
Did you go to ticket office?
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Did u go to ticket office?
Nah Online mate
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A quick count looking at the online availability shows just under 3,000 tickets left. I'm confident I will be able to get one tomorrow at 9.
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Nah Online mate
Ok, its not showing anything for me when I log in, thinking about chancing it and going ticket office
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A quick count looking at the online availability shows just under 3,000 tickets left. I'm confident I will be able to get one tomorrow at 9.
How do you see this?
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How do you see this?
I know the URL that shows the stadium map and see empty seats, it will let me pick seats but not complete the transaction; which is right as I can't buy any until tomorrow.
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I know the URL that shows the stadium map and see empty seats, it will let me pick seats but not complete the transaction; which is right as I can't buy any until tomorrow.
I cant even get to that stage, just shows ticket information and thats as far as I can go
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A quick count looking at the online availability shows just under 3,000 tickets left. I'm confident I will be able to get one tomorrow at 9.
1949 remaining.
SME 87
BRE 939
E/S 444
HLS 479
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I cant even get to that stage, just shows ticket information and thats as far as I can go
Daft question time, but do you actually have any kind of online account at the Albion?
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Listening to my Albion mates and reading on here it sounds like your ticket system, both home and away, have been a bit of a shambles. How can your club get it so wrong selling 23,000 home tickets and 2000 away tickets? We sold 40k tickets in a few days, one ticket per person, and our away tickets sold out in 45 minutes to s/t holders with 18+ aways. Couldn't believe when I saw some of your fans having to queue in person for tickets, I thought that went in the 90s ;D
Really pleased for you that Villa have got their ticketing system working like a well oiled machine.
Means that you'll be ok for a seat at next seasons play-offs too
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Really pleased for you that Villa have got their ticketing system working like a well oiled machine.
Means that you'll be ok for a seat at next seasons play-offs too
:D :D :D :D Brilliant.
I shall be looking tomorrow to see if I can grab a ticket. I have been to 9 home games this season (family commitments prevent me from going to more) but I usually get my ticket from a friend who works within the club.
Fingers crossed I will be able to grab one tomorrow if theres still a fair few left.
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Just been ticket office got 3 tickets!!!
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Daft question time, but do you actually have any kind of online account at the Albion?
I do, just been ticket office and the lady told me the site is not working properly for all people, after all I was a member, and got 3 tickets, anyone holding out for tomorrow I would go up there now, as I think they are selling to anybody now, I had the feeling I could have had more tickets had I wanted. I originally asked for 1, she then said I could have more if I wanted
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Just checked - there are about 1,000 tickets left - all parts of the ground still available.
Guess they just want to get them sold.
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Maybe it's just that I'm old but it didn't allow me to select my usual seats (I'm a season ticket holder) but did allow me to get them elsewhere in the ground. I'm looking forward to the nostalgia of being at the back of the Brummie.
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Maybe it's just that I'm old but it didn't allow me to select my usual seats (I'm a season ticket holder) but did allow me to get them elsewhere in the ground. I'm looking forward to the nostalgia of being at the back of the Brummie.
You only had until yesterday to keep your seat, it went on sale to anyone at 9am this morning mate.
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You only had until yesterday to keep your seat, it went on sale to anyone at 9am this morning mate.
That would explain it then!
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Have people received their ticket for the home game yet?
I ordered mine on Monday evening, and after reading on here that sometimes there was problems when adding to stile card I chose to have a paper ticket delivered instead.
I know they will be busy sending tickets out but when I've ordered paper tickets for my daughter earlier in the season they usually come 2 days after buying them. So that would have been yesterday.
I have fired off an email to the ticket department but was just wondering if anybody else's where delayed.
EDIT: Received a reply already, that was quick!
All tickets have been posted out if you do not receive them by the game we can reprint them for you.
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Have people received their ticket for the home game yet?
EDIT: Received a reply already, that was quick!
All tickets have been posted out if you do not receive them by the game we can reprint them for you.
If you go that route mate get yerself to the ticket office early as it is sure to be mayhem in there with missing/lost tickets and they will almost certainly block through access round the back of the Smethwick too if you have Smethwick or Halfords tickets so will have to walk the long way round
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Does anyone know if we'll be opening up any more of the Smethwick End for home supporters?
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If you go that route mate get yerself to the ticket office early as it is sure to be mayhem in there with missing/lost tickets and they will almost certainly block through access round the back of the Smethwick too if you have Smethwick or Halfords tickets so will have to walk the long way round
Yeah my season ticket is in the SME, so like you say just like the league game the route round the back of the SME will certainly be blocked off.
Hopefully the tickets show up tomorrow to save all that hassle!
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Does anyone know if we'll be opening up any more of the Smethwick End for home supporters?
I doubt it due to the concourse underneath.
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Does anyone know if we'll be opening up any more of the Smethwick End for home supporters?
Zero chance of this happening I think mate.
Think it can only be done with 1k or less away fans due to segregation issues in the concourse. Thats why it was only done for the Wigan game (I think it was) during the season.
EDIT: Great minds Kc56wba ;D
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Fair enough. So our refusal to give them more tickets was based purely on spite? Suits me ;D
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Fair enough. So our refusal to give them more tickets was based purely on spite? Suits me ;D
Same here ;D
Roughly £14k (if the extra seats were sold at face value of 20 quid each) of lost revenue is worth it for me. ;D
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Does anyone know if we'll be opening up any more of the Smethwick End for home supporters?
I don't think a separation consisting of a nylon tarpaulin of some kind stretched over a couple of rows or seats would be considered adequate to keep apart, despite the result on Saturday, what are bound to be a lot of highly charged, beered up and emotional groups of supporters on Tuesday night
I really envy those of you who will get to see and experience what I predict will be an awesome atmosphere live and will expect a lot of detailed accounts of the night to read at silly o'clock in my hotel room when I eventually arrive in Memphis
COYB
SOTV
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Went on line 9:00 am Tuesday morning - sorted by 9:10 am with 2 tickets and they arrived this morning
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Referee: Chris Kavanagh.
Assistant Referee: Dan Cook
Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis
Fourth Official: Lee Mason
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Yeah my season ticket is in the SME, so like you say just like the league game the route round the back of the SME will certainly be blocked off.
Hopefully the tickets show up tomorrow to save all that hassle!
They will arrive in good time. Ordered mine on Monday and they arrived Wednesday. Not bad considering the bank holiday.
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Referee: Chris Kavanagh.
Assistant Referee: Dan Cook
Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis
Fourth Official: Lee Mason
Ain't Sian Massey Ellis from around here?
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Ain't Sian Massey Ellis from around here?
Coventry
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Bought my ticket at 9:30, I'm surprised it went this far so Kudos to the club it seems everyone who wanted one should of got one. Only a handful of singles left from what I can see.
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So the earlier hysteria about members not getting tickets were completely unfounded then!
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So the earlier hysteria about members not getting tickets were completely unfounded then!
Usually the way.
Should be sold out imminently!
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Usually the way.
Should be sold out imminently!
Gobsmacked it hasn't already sold out, biggest game in years, cheap tickets and its a derby!
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So the earlier hysteria about members not getting tickets were completely unfounded then!
To be fair, it only worked that way because the club changed the process by denying STH's additional tickets on Wednesday.
I suspect that happened because tickets were allegedly being offered at inflated prices on social media.
If ticket sales had followed the pattern of normal matches, then members should have got tickets without intervention from the club.
It's just a shame that some STH's appear to have tried to exploit the process for their own benefit.
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To be fair, it only worked that way because the club changed the process by denying STH's additional tickets on Wednesday.
I suspect that happened because tickets were allegedly being offered at inflated prices on social media.
If ticket sales had followed the pattern of normal matches, then members should have got tickets without intervention from the club.
It's just a shame that some STH's appear to have tried to exploit the process for their own benefit.
Baggiejohn some STH's sold their own seats for the 5-5 game against Man U, unfortunately it happens.
The way we sold the tickets didn't work out as it should have done, even the disabled supporters had issues getting their tickets and they had a designated phone number to ring but in the end I would say 99.9% of those entitled to a ticket have got one.
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Got two tickets earlier just before 11AM, there's still quite a few left considering...obviously they will sell out but it's not the mad rush that some are making out.
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Just over 300 left at last quick count.
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People panicking and moaning and now it’s on general sale and it’s still not sold out, biggest derby in years and still 250 left.
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People panicking and moaning and now it’s on general sale and it’s still not sold out, biggest derby in years and still 250 left.
Think its more because the club made a balls up and then announced it was sold out when it wasn't
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Oddly,
The most seats left available are in the BRE in the top left (facing pitch) corner and the East stand is near enough sold out! Quite suprised about that.
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Oddly,
The most seats left available are in the BRE in the top left (facing pitch) corner and the East stand is near enough sold out! Quite suprised about that.
Most probably because you can’t even see the furthest goal from there. I’ve no idea how any professional could’ve made such a basic error with sight lines. I spotted it when the frame went up...while sitting on top of a double decker bus. :o
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Just single seats and restricted views left now. They will take a bit longer to sell because of what they are but they'll be gone soon enough.
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If this had been against the Dingles they'd have sold out yesterday ;)
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If this had been against the Dingles they'd have sold out yesterday ;)
Behave and stop trying to wind people up, wouldn't be the best time for a 7 dayer would it?? ;) :D
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There are literally the odd seats left now in the Brummie Road. Some restricted views are showing as available but you click on one to buy and it's not allowing you, don't know what that's all about.
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Officially declared a sell out but don't give up if you still want tickets, there are a few available, returns I presume. Less than 50 though at last count so get in quick.
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Yep about 20 left on ticket site. All in Brummie.
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Baggiejohn some STH's sold their own seats for the 5-5 game against Man U, unfortunately it happens.
The way we sold the tickets didn't work out as it should have done, even the disabled supporters had issues getting their tickets and they had a designated phone number to ring but in the end I would say 99.9% of those entitled to a ticket have got one.
Kev,
I think I've shown over the years, that I have a lot of time & understanding of how & why the club makes some of the decisions it does.
It would have been difficult to predict the demand there was for tickets on the first day, particularly when STH's had seats guaranteed for 3 days, so I have some sympathy for glitches in the process, as a result of overload.
On the other hand members have a valid argument to be second in the queue behind STH's for tickets, & IMO it's wrong to give STH's an option for a second ticket before members. The maths says that if only 40% of STH took up the option of a second ticket, there would be none left for members.
It may be that the club realised that they had made a mistake & changed to process on Wednesday to suit. As you say, the consequences of that decision meant that most people who wanted a ticket got one.
Couple of observations though:
How much of an impact did the alleged sale of spare tickets on social media have on the decision to stop selling additional tickets to STH's.?
It doesn't appear that the ticketing process has been thought through very well, & has to raise question marks about the professionalism of the club.
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Does anyone know if the hawthorns express run for this game, dont think I can watch sober!!
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Anyone think Morgan Rogers could be involved from the bench?
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Doubtful, they don't seem keen on the youth.
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I see we have little option other than to put a couple on the bench, Rogers and Tulloch
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Need to pack the midfield for this one. We've lost every single game against the top 8 this year aside from Norwich home. What we're doing doesn't work. Our defence isn't anywhere near good enough to withstand pressure nor is the midfield dynamic enough.
Put Brunt and Phillips out wide and Field, Johansen and Morrison in the middle and we might actually manage to keep the ball for at least 3 passes for once. If we sit back and try and absorb pressure again we have no chance of overturning.
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Need to pack the midfield for this one. We've lost every single game against the top 8 this year aside from Norwich home. What we're doing doesn't work. Our defence isn't anywhere near good enough to withstand pressure nor is the midfield dynamic enough.
Put Brunt and Phillips out wide and Field, Johansen and Morrison in the middle and we might actually manage to keep the ball for at least 3 passes for once. If we sit back and try and absorb pressure again we have no chance of overturning.
I agree, I would put Brunty on the left (should've been there since Barnes left) and Phillips wide right. Rodriguez through the middle.
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Incorrect to say we have lost every game against top 8 this ,beat Villa Leeds Sheffield United Bristol city
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Incorrect to say we have lost every game against top 8 this ,beat Villa Leeds Sheffield United Bristol city
Villa are the only one of those we beat this year. And even then back when they were mid-table. Our form against decent sides is absolutely awful and we still go into the games with the same plan.
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As with most of the games this season, if the opposition run at us, our midfield are so slow that they just get bypassed.
The vile lot will continue to run at us because they have found our Achilles heel.
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As with most of the games this season, if the opposition run at us, our midfield are so slow that they just get bypassed.
The vile lot will continue to run at us because they have found our Achilles heel.
I believe Vile will sit back with a view to trying to hit us on the break.
An early goal for us would be massive.
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Villa are the only one of those we beat this year. And even then back when they were mid-table. Our form against decent sides is absolutely awful and we still go into the games with the same plan.
Really? Beat Leeds. Beat villa. Beat Norwich. Beat Sheff Utd. The only team close to us that we’ve struggled against is Derby.
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Really? Beat Leeds. Beat villa. Beat Norwich. Beat Sheff Utd. The only team close to us that we’ve struggled against is Derby.
I think he's saying "this year" aka 2019 but also it's a weird fact because we haven't played all of the top 8 at home in this calendar year. So it's 7 games in the entire season and we won 2 "last year" v Bristol City and Leeds while we drew with Villa, and lost to Derby. Which means in 2019 we drew with Norwich and then lost to Sheff U, Derby and Boro.
So we lost 3 games against top 8 teams this "year." This season we won 2, drew 2 and lost 3 vs top 8 at home.
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Really? Beat Leeds. Beat villa. Beat Norwich. Beat Sheff Utd. The only team close to us that we’ve struggled against is Derby.
Boro did the double over us too
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Boro did the double over us too
One of the biggest pluses of the season is that boro failed. Which means Pulis failed. :D
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I dont give a toss about Pulis, i didnt like him but it's our boards fault we are where we are. Gving him that nerw contract and all that money to waste was unforgivable.
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One of the biggest pluses of the season is that boro failed. Which means Pulis failed. :D
What?
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field
Edwards Harper Johansen Phillips
Rodriguez
Subs Bond, Livermore, Adarabioyo, Townsend, Hoolahan, Leko, Brunt
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Think thats all we can do really but i miagune they will stick with Brunt and keep Edwards out.
I thought Livermore was out for the whole of the playoffs if we made it ?
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I wonder if super Bobs lined up as master of ceremonies before ko on Tuesday
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We're still in this we're only a goal down. Minus Gayle won't make things easy. Need to get Brunt and Phillips out wide. Field and johansen in centre midfield and either hoolahan or Morrison off Rodriguez. (The seals are going to sit back we need to keep possession and build pressure)
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Think thats all we can do really but i miagune they will stick with Brunt and keep Edwards out.
I thought Livermore was out for the whole of the playoffs if we made it ?
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I think you are probably right there mate , but my thinking is an empty seat is as good as one occupied by Morrison ;)
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We're still in this we're only a goal down. Minus Gayle won't make things easy. Need to get Edwards Brunt and Phillips out wide. Field and johansen in centre midfield and either hoolahan or Morrison off Rodriguez. (The seals are going to sit back we need to keep possession and build pressure)
Best we can do, Experience is one thing, Pedestrianism is another.
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I’d love to see Montero given a start. He has the skills to turn the Villa defence inside out - and could earn us a penalty or two.
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Gayle banned for final, even if Albion get through on Tuesday.
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/05/11/dwight-gayle-will-be-banned-for-play-off-final-if-west-brom-reach-wembley/
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Johnstone
Dawson
Hegazi
Bartley
Holgate
Gibbs
Brunt
Harper
Johansen
Phillips
Rodriguez
Play Phillips just behind Rodriguez
Subs
Bond
Tosin
Field
Edwards
Hoolahan
Morrison
Montero
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Didn’t we win most our games last time Gayle was out? It might not be a bad thing.... we can win this :)
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We need to be loud and proud on tuesday. We can do this but we need to roar the players onto to victory. They will need us throughout the game.
I believe we can do it!
Come on you Baggies!!
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I can't help thinking we will win one nil - then nothing in extra time - then penalties...
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Need to get on top of ref straight away and make the atmosphere as hostile as possible for the vile scumbags. Shan needs to grow a pair and unleash a few of our youngsters.
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Fans need to get on his back straight away Hawthorns needs to be as hostile as possible for this bloke especially after the cheating bugger who officiated today's game.
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Quick turnaround for this, if they are still gloating we have a chance to get in amongst them, let's hope for another "homer" ref display.
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I think you are probably right there mate , but my thinking is an empty seat is as good as one occupied by Morrison ;)
I agree, i really do love Mozza for what hes done overall through his time here but the last few seasons have been too much.
Not sure what Hoolahan has done other than being decent to be so ignored.
Bloody love this club but i am struggling at the moment and have been since the start of the season.
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Johnstone
Bartley. Dawson hegazi
Holgate gibbs
Johannson Brunt
Murphy. Phillips
Rodriguez
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Weird but feel more confident pre saturday, saw a lot we can exploit at home, and to be fair our best performances this season have been without gayle, I would have taken a 1-2 if offered on friday night,
LETS DO THIS COYB
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Weird but feel more confident pre saturday, saw a lot we can exploit at home, and to be fair our best performances this season have been without gayle, I would have taken a 1-2 if offered on friday night,
LETS DO THIS COYB
I agree.
Remember Swansea ;D
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I agree.
Remember Swansea ;D
Too young mate :P
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Johnstone (but should have played bond ages ago)
Dawson Tosin hegazi
Holgate. Field. Brunt
Harper. Johansen
Phillips
JRod
Or
Johnstone
Dawson. Tosin. Hegazi. Gibbs
Holgate. Harper. Johansen. Montero
Phillips
JRod
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Weird but feel more confident pre saturday, saw a lot we can exploit at home, and to be fair our best performances this season have been without gayle, I would have taken a 1-2 if offered on friday night,
LETS DO THIS COYB
I can't disagree, very similar to when we had Lee Hughes, it was always look for hughsie
Now hopefully they have to be more rounded and should be already wound up enough to not even need a team talk
I think 3-0 by half time 👍
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Harper Johansen Field
Phillips Brunt
Rodriguez
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Lets make Tuesday as uncomfortable as possible for the vile. All you at the front of the stands make sure the vile players know what you think of them when they are near the touch line !!!
Lets hope the FA do the proper thing and ban Grealish for that dive like they banned Gayle earlier in the season.
We can do this without Gayle. Unleash the youngsters. no good sticking with the old guard. Put the youngsters like Edwards and Lecko in and tell them " make yourself hero son !!"
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Johnstone
Holgate Bartley hegazi Gibbs
Phillips johansen brunt Edwards
Morrison
Jrod
Get into them.
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Lets make Tuesday as uncomfortable as possible for the vile. All you at the front of the stands make sure the vile players know what you think of them when they are near the touch line !!!
Lets hope the FA do the proper thing and ban Grealish for that dive like they banned Gayle earlier in the season.
We can do this without Gayle. Unleash the youngsters. no good sticking with the old guard. Put the youngsters like Edwards and Lecko in and tell them " make yourself hero son !!"
Just woke up. Are the FAlooking into Greakish? He deffo bought that penalty for me. Plus it was match changing so he could get done
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Assuming Dawson is out:
Holgate
Hegazi
Bartley
Gibbs
Johansen
Brunt
Harper/field
Edwards
Rodriguez
Phillips
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-----Phillips---------Field-------------Johansen--------Brunt-----
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Subs: Bond, Mears, Adarabioyo, Edwards, Hoolahan, Montero, Tulloch
Need to pack the midfield, we can't just sit back for 90 minutes again. Likewise Brunt and Phillips are not central midfielders and it shows in their lack of control in the game. Neither get involved anywhere near enough and contribute enough off the ball. They're both decent wingers though and can provide from there.
I'd also scrap Murphy from the squad entirely, we need everyone at 100% effort chasing down every loose ball, winning every 50/50. Murphy is completely gutless and we go down to 10 when he comes on. For the same reason no point Harper being in the squad - we won't win having a central midfielder strolling around thinking they don't need to track back.
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-----Holgate--------Dawson-----------Hegazi----------Gibbs----
-----Phillips---------Field-------------Johansen--------Brunt-----
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Subs: Bond, Mears, Adarabioyo, Edwards, Hoolahan, Montero, Tulloch
Need to pack the midfield, we can't just sit back for 90 minutes again. Likewise Brunt and Phillips are not central midfielders and it shows in their lack of control in the game. Neither get involved anywhere near enough and contribute enough off the ball. They're both decent wingers though and can provide from there.
I'd also scrap Murphy from the squad entirely, we need everyone at 100% effort chasing down every loose ball, winning every 50/50. Murphy is completely gutless and we go down to 10 when he comes on. For the same reason no point Harper being in the squad - we won't win having a central midfielder strolling around thinking they don't need to track back.
I'd probably go with that but have Edwards behind Rodriguez, unknown quantity to them and has pace in the centre.
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.......... Tuesday night could be the best night of your (our) lives as an Albion fan.
Don't get me wrong, anyone that bothers to read my posts (there must be the odd person that does lol) will know that I've said all along we are not good enough to go up, Villa are the better team and they will beat us. I stand by that, I fully expect them to go through on Tuesday
BUT
All Albion have to do is win the game to force extra time. 1-0 will do or 2-1 anything, just win the game. There is very much all to play for at this stage, it's a one off game and we can win it.
IF we pull this off given that it's Villa we're playing this would be something else. Everyone remember that night against Swansea in 1993? It could be the same again only better. We were 2-1 behind in 1993 as well.
No moaning on Tuesday the place has to rocking from before kick off. Lets make noise like we've never made before. It just could be a night that goes down in history and one we will never forget.
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It is a big match, don't get me wrong. It's huge. But it's going to take a lot to beat the day we beat Palace 2-0 to get promoted. That day was immense. All we had to do was match what Wolves did, who at the time were our biggest rivals. And that was our first promotion and therefore it meant so much. So I'd say for anyone under 20 then yes this is definitely the biggest game they've ever seen.
Definitely agree about fans not moaning. It needs to be a big atmosphere, without groans if passes are misplaced. Sing sing sing all night. Afterall, it could be the last time we see players like Holgate, Gibbs, Jayrod in an Albion shirt.
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Just woke up. Are the FAlooking into Greakish? He deffo bought that penalty for me. Plus it was match changing so he could get done
I read that they are reviewing the ref's match report regarding the JG penalty. Probably won't do anything as the ref will say he saw contact. But then again, the ref who gave the penalty for Gayle probably said the same.
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Just another play-off game. Losing to (or beating) Villa is no different to if we had played Leeds or Derby.
Winning Tuesday won't top Portsmouth at home. Palace at home. D1ngle5 away. Ferguson's last match. Port Vale at Wembley. Liverpool at home (2 penalties). Arsenal away (3-2). I could go on and on.
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I would go 4-3-2-1 for this. We don't have to panic and force the issue we have ninety minutes to win the game. With Gayle out we have one goalscorer available - Rodriguez. There is going to be a lot on his shoulders. We need him high up the pitch, can't afford to have him dropping deeper. At the same time we cannot go light in midfield because Grealish and McGinn cannot be allowed time and space. I'd go with a three in midfield and a two just ahead of them, Phillips for his direct running and Morrison because he offers a different option. Villa will play with Abraham up top on his own we can afford to drop a centre back.
Subject to availability:
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Johansen Field Brunt
Phillips Morrison
Rodriguez
Subs: Bond, Adarabioyo, Townsend, Harper, Murphy, Montero, Edwards.
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Injury permitting we'll be unchanged aside from Gayle. 3 at the back will continue.
Morrison will probably come into midfield with Phillips pushed up front.
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Just another play-off game. Losing to (or beating) Villa is no different to if we had played Leeds or Derby.
Winning Tuesday won't top Portsmouth at home. Palace at home. D1ngle5 away. Ferguson's last match. Port Vale at Wembley. Liverpool at home (2 penalties). Arsenal away (3-2). I could go on and on.
Not in terms of what we achieve no but in terms of occasion it'd be far more special.
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The one goal deficit doesn't bother me. Gayle missing can be catered for. My biggest concern is the management picking the right players and making the right decisions. It was quite clear from the first leg the management were to blame for why it went wrong.
They should have had Tosun on the bench . It would have been a straight forward decision to put Tosun in Dawson's position. We missed Holgate at right back and Mears gave us nothing at all. Phillips was clearly not 100% match fit. He should have been on the bench and bought on in the 2nd half. Johanson was given the job of looking after Greaseish where he would have been better employed creating chances for us. Field could have done the job of marking greasy. Gayle should have been replaced when he picked up a yellow.
So it will be interesting to see what his team and tactics are on Tuesday. I have a nasty feeling he might start with Phillips up front. I would go with youth and give Lecko a run out. At least with his young legs he will keep their defence on their toes. I would also put edwards in midfield.
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Just another play-off game. Losing to (or beating) Villa is no different to if we had played Leeds or Derby.
Winning Tuesday won't top Portsmouth at home. Palace at home. D1ngle5 away. Ferguson's last match. Port Vale at Wembley. Liverpool at home (2 penalties). Arsenal away (3-2). I could go on and on.
I hope Shan's pre-match pep-talk is more inspiring than this!
How can coming from behind to qualify for a play-off final in a home-tie against fierce rivals not top Ferguson's last match, which had nothing riding on the result?
Even without Gayle, as far as I can see as the tie stands Tuesday is set-up for a classic and I for one still believe that Albion can do a number on Villa.
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I hope Shan's pre-match pep-talk is more inspiring than this!
How can coming from behind to qualify for a play-off final in a home-tie against fierce rivals not top Ferguson's last match, which had nothing riding on the result?
Even without Gayle, as far as I can see as the tie stands Tuesday is set-up for a classic and I for one still believe that Albion can do a number on Villa.
To be fair I think he's misunderstanding my initial post to be honest. I'm not referring to what the match does for the clubs status or what we achieve from it, I'm talking about the emotion it would generate, the feeling you get as a fan, that buzz that you can only get from certain sets of circumstances. Even the play off final in 1993 didn't match the Swansea game for that "something I'll never forget" experience, for example.
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To be fair I think he's misunderstanding my initial post to be honest. I'm not referring to what the match does for the clubs status or what we achieve from it, I'm talking about the emotion it would generate, the feeling you get as a fan, that buzz that you can only get from certain sets of circumstances. Even the play off final in 1993 didn't match the Swansea game for that "something I'll never forget" experience, for example.
I'm not misunderstanding anything. When Lukaku scored his hattrick goal the place went bananas.
Tuesday will be a nervy quiet night imo.
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I'm not misunderstanding anything. When Lukaku scored his hattrick goal the place went bananas.
Tuesday will be a nervy quiet night imo.
Lol. That was nothing in comparison. All those games you listed none match that Swansea game.
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Lol. That was nothing in comparison. All those games you listed none match that Swansea game.
Swansea was a concerted wall of noise. You'll be sorely disappointed if you're expecting anything like that on Tuesday, it hasn't come close to happening since. The games I've cited all caused a better atmosphere than I'm expecting on Tuesday.
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The one goal deficit doesn't bother me. Gayle missing can be catered for. My biggest concern is the management picking the right players and making the right decisions. It was quite clear from the first leg the management were to blame for why it went wrong.
They should have had Tosun on the bench . It would have been a straight forward decision to put Tosun in Dawson's position. We missed Holgate at right back and Mears gave us nothing at all. Phillips was clearly not 100% match fit. He should have been on the bench and bought on in the 2nd half. Johanson was given the job of looking after Greaseish where he would have been better employed creating chances for us. Field could have done the job of marking greasy. Gayle should have been replaced when he picked up a yellow.
So it will be interesting to see what his team and tactics are on Tuesday. I have a nasty feeling he might start with Phillips up front. I would go with youth and give Lecko a run out. At least with his young legs he will keep their defence on their toes. I would also put edwards in midfield.
Agree with most of this
Wouldn't start Leko, don't think he is there yet in terms of consistency
Montero should play
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Swansea was a concerted wall of noise. You'll be sorely disappointed if you're expecting anything like that on Tuesday, it hasn't come close to happening since.
That's sort of my point. It was a very special night.
They don't come along every couple of years. They wouldn't be special if they did would they?
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Agree with most of this
Wouldn't start Leko, don't think he is there yet in terms of consistency
Montero should play
Why? He hasn't done anything for us, or for that matter Swansea for about 3 seasons.
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Tuesday is most certainly not a night for Leko, twisting, turning, holding on to the ball for fifteen seconds before firing it over the bar.
Please, No.
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Tuesday is most certainly not a night for Leko, twisting, turning, holding on to the ball for fifteen seconds before firing it over the bar.
Please, No.
There is nothing else. I wish there was !!
If Phillips was 100% match fit then that would be an option. The only other option is packing the midfield and hoping some of them can get up to support Jrod. So it could be a night for young legs !!
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There is nothing else. I wish there was !!
If Phillips was 100% match fit then that would be an option. The only other option is packing the midfield and hoping some of them can get up to support Jrod. So it could be a night for young legs !!
There are still better options. Edwards, Morrison, even Murphy all better options than Leko, probably Montero as well.
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There are still better options. Edwards, Morrison, even Murphy all better options than Leko, probably Montero as well.
As strikers ??? I don't think so.
Morrison too old and too slow, Murphy is rubbish. Did nothing when he came on yesterday. Edwards , yes, but as a supporting midfielder. Montero hasn't figured for us much since we loaned him. There is probably a good reason for that !!
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As strikers ??? I don't think so.
Morrison too old and too slow, Murphy is rubbish. Did nothing when he came on yesterday. Edwards , yes, but as a supporting midfielder. Montero hasn't figured for us much since we loaned him. There is probably a good reason for that !!
Leko isn't a striker. He is pretty much an out and out winger.
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.......... Tuesday night could be the best night of your (our) lives as an Albion fan.
Don't get me wrong, anyone that bothers to read my posts (there must be the odd person that does lol) will know that I've said all along we are not good enough to go up, Villa are the better team and they will beat us. I stand by that, I fully expect them to go through on Tuesday
BUT
All Albion have to do is win the game to force extra time. 1-0 will do or 2-1 anything, just win the game. There is very much all to play for at this stage, it's a one off game and we can win it.
IF we pull this off given that it's Villa we're playing this would be something else. Everyone remember that night against Swansea in 1993? It could be the same again only better. We were 2-1 behind in 1993 as well.
No moaning on Tuesday the place has to rocking from before kick off. Lets make noise like we've never made before. It just could be a night that goes down in history and one we will never forget.
I know we had a little disagreement a few weeks back on the leeds villa match Atomic, but you're spot on here with what you've said. I love the passion and i hope Shan and the players can see posts like this!
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I know we had a little disagreement a few weeks back on the leeds villa match Atomic, but you're spot on here with what you've said. I love the passion and i hope Shan and the players can see posts like this!
Pah! No worries my friend, it's what forums are for. :-*
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Leko isn't a striker, Edwards is a striker, he may have been played as midfielder but he is actually a striker.
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I'd consider starting Rayhaan Tulloch, he looked very lively against Brighton. We need as much pace, positivety and unpredictably as possible on Tuesday. Yes, its a gamble but I'd rather we go for it and fail then not take a chance. You could play him upfront with Rodrquiz in a 442.
Or we could have him on the bench to run at them when their legs are tired and go 4-5-1 with as many attacking midfielders supporting Rodriquez as possible. No point playing both Brunt and Johansen. We can't afford too many slow plodding players in the midfield.
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it doesn't matter if Leko is a winger or Edwards is a striker, our management are not that adventurous to play either of them. They will probably decide to play Phillips up front, which will be a mistake or even Morrison. I have said it before , the management lost us that game yesterday and I have a feeling they will blow it Tuesday as well !!!
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I think we showed too much respect to Villa yesterday and that cannot happen Tuesday.
Villa are an average side with an exceptional player (Grealish) a very good player (Mcginn) and a couple of good players (Abrahams and Mings who is in the form of his life) the rest are poor (we arent world beaters ourselves)
Credit to Villa, they had a freak run of form which will probably only happen once in a lifetime but they played two better sides the last two games - Leeds (who they got a lucky point with the give goal, which incidentally i didnt see them rushing to put the ball out when Dawson was down yesterday) and Norwich, and they took 1 point out of 6 (Yes they made changes for Norwich but they still lost) but it shows they really arent nothing special, their form without Grealish shows that.
We finished 4 points better than them, a place above them, we scored more goals than them and we took 4 points off them yet 2nd half yesterday we played like plucky underdogs.
I am not sure if the club have got caught up in the media wave of how great this Villa side is supposed to be and started to believe it but i am hoping yesterday was all part of a longer term game plan and that we do not approach the game in the same way tuesday.
First half we were professional, we scored, had a couple of breaks and by half time Villa had run out of ideas, they were going sideways and hitting long shots, their crowd were flat.
They were always going to have a bit of a surge start of the second half but even then nothing happened, the mistake we made was we just stuck everyone behind the ball, inviting pressure, this in turn gave them hope (because they were camped in our half) and the fans started to get behind them and a couple of subs and they were in front.
We have probably the best two attacking wing backs / full backs at this level in Gibbs and Holgate, we have one of the best players at this level - Phillips, and we have the best striker partnership at this level - Gayle and Jrod, as our goals for tally shows our strengths are our attacking so i cannot understand why 2nd half we didnt play to our strengths, let Villa worry about us.
Instead we hoofed the ball, inspired little confidence and just had Gayle chasing lost causes, the game began to bypass our midfield (unless we have Brunt on the ball he is a passenger, he isnt going to start chasing and breaking up play) we had Villa screwed at half time yet we handed them the initiative back by being too respectful and negative and now things are in their favour.
When Shan came in last season, i think he was credited with being the brains behind last seasons near miracle, he did a great job, however we were the worst side in the league so the cautious approach worked. This season we are one of the best sides in the league, with our attacking threat we should be taking the game to teams, yet away from home especially we are too negative, and at home we arent convincing.
Shan has been thrust into this role and probably doesnt want to be in there but the mindset has to change at the club for Tuesday, i worry based on the last 10 games it wont and we will think 'what if'.
We all take the mick out the villa for their arrogance but right now our team need a bit of that, let teams worry about us instead of the other way round.
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With our lack of strikers, I think we are going to have to rely on set pieces. That's where Brunty's left foot will be vital. Question is where to play him, midfield or left wing. Problem is his lack of pace needed in both positions, but especially on the wing.
Playing the youngsters is a risk, as their heads are likely to drop first if Villa score. Harper is in some ways more talented than all our midfielders, but I'm not sure about his temperament when we are up against it. On the other hand we don't want too many holding, sideways pass players in midfield.
Trouble is, we haven't got that many options.
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Why? He hasn't done anything for us, or for that matter Swansea for about 3 seasons.
He's played 4 times and scored 1 goal. A much better option out wide left than Brunt who many are suggesting.
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We, the fans, must all be up for this game that will shape both ours and Villa's future so we must play our part give our all in the stands.
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He's played 4 times and scored 1 goal. A much better option out wide left than Brunt who many are suggesting.
Definitely not.
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With our lack of strikers, I think we are going to have to rely on set pieces. That's where Brunty's left foot will be vital. Question is where to play him, midfield or left wing. Problem is his lack of pace needed in both positions, but especially on the wing.
Playing the youngsters is a risk, as their heads are likely to drop first if Villa score. Harper is in some ways more talented than all our midfielders, but I'm not sure about his temperament when we are up against it. On the other hand we don't want too many holding, sideways pass players in midfield.
Trouble is, we haven't got that many options.
Morrison. Experienced. Always looks forward and can still carry the ball.
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Morrison. Experienced. Always looks forward and can still carry the ball.
Bang on.
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Injury permitting we'll be unchanged aside from Gayle. 3 at the back will continue.
Morrison will probably come into midfield with Phillips pushed up front.
That will sort it then, no problem.
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Has anyone heard any news on Dawson.Has Tosin just been left recently or is he injured?
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When Darren Fletcher was our captain, he was in the referee's ear from start to finish, always trying to influence the referee.
Our present captain, neither motivates the team, of tries to get the referee "onside" . I was a Villa on Saturday and though he made no real headway with the referee, he was having a right finger pointing go at Dean Smith - totally pointless.
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Would have snapped someone’s hand off start of season for this.
2 wins from going up.
Would have snapped the other hand off to be just one behind after going to ‘fortress villa park’ to play ten in a row winners and former European champ villa.
Wasn’t optimistic but decent performance Saturday and few we can do them at home
So, we are at home , stifle that greasy grealish and let’s gets at them. I feel set pieces will be key and hegazi/Bartley could have a big say from brunt set piece Tuesday.
Coyb
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Definitely not.
Definitely yes
Out of 8nterest where would you play “the wand†on Tuesday and why not give monsters a go....he’s fast he’s direct ....and he doesn’t blow out of his backside
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Has anyone heard any news on Dawson.Has Tosin just been left recently or is he injured?
Nothing official of any note , I’d suggest he will be fine
To sin was the victim of the “maximum 5 loanees rule†Gayles red means to sin will be in the squad , it’s just if he starts
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Definitely yes
Out of 8nterest where would you play “the wand†on Tuesday and why not give monsters a go....he’s fast he’s direct ....and he doesn’t blow out of his backside
Brunt would remain in central midfield (as we are not going to change formation) Montero does blow out of his arris that's the problem, blokes not been fit for 2 and a half years. He WAS fast, sadly I wouldn't fancy him in a footrace with Gaz Baz these days.
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Cut the personal comments , sick of issuing warnings where it then stops and starts again a few days/weeks later, next one 7 days regardless of who it is.
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When Darren Fletcher was our captain, he was in the referee's ear from start to finish, always trying to influence the referee.
Our present captain, neither motivates the team, of tries to get the referee "onside" . I was a Villa on Saturday and though he made no real headway with the referee, he was having a right finger pointing go at Dean Smith - totally pointless.
We've lacked a leader for many years since McInnes left, we had Fletcher but again now he's gone we lacking again. People say we don't need a Captain these days etc , sorry we do and its showing.
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Brunt would remain in central midfield (as we are not going to change formation) Montero does blow out of his arris that's the problem, blokes not been fit for 2 and a half years. He WAS fast, sadly I wouldn't fancy him in a footrace with Gaz Baz these days.
I’m glad you could dechiper
8nterst and monsters .....now there’s an idea to frighten the seals
Montero came on down the right in one of the later home games, looked v fast and very direct
I’d consider brunt at LWB , don’t think Gibbs has been on it for the last few games, I still wouldn’t have brunt in CM , can’t tackle and lacks pace
I just think they would have watched us for the last few matches....mix it up
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Calmed down at bit now since Saturday. We have nothing to lose. Spuds won from behind minus their better strikers, Liverpool managed it without theirs - this is a tough ask but what an opportunity for someone maybe one of our younger ones to make a name for themselves - we've just got to go for it
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Harper Johansen Field
Phillips Brunt
Rodriguez
:D Agree with this team 100% and I think they could do the job for us.
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All we have to do is win the game of football, simple. we WILL DO THIS. COYB
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For some reason I'm feeling confident today. We have to get at these from then start. Surely we will have to play 4-3-3 with Murphy on the one wing and Phillips on the other supplying J Rod in the middle? I also think one of Field or Harper will come in for the injured Johansen. They struggled against us when we had ten men and couldn't get a break through from open play during that time. We can do this just get at them from minute one.
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Anyone think Morgan Rogers could be involved from the bench?
Or Jamie Soule. We have to bring on a striker if we are still chasing at the last moment, rather than playing Philips or Murphy on the front.
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Or Jamie Soule. We have to bring on a striker if we are still chasing at the last moment, rather than playing Philips or Murphy on the front.
Problem is Shan has really been quite conservative, and I suspect he'll be too worried about extra time and needing experience for that, so expect a bench full of the usual suspects - although with injuries and suspensions he might have no choice!
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Think he will go with assuming Johansen isn’t fit
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Bartley Hegazi Gibbs
Morrison Brunt Harper
Philips
Rodriguez
Subs
Bond Adarabioyo Townsend Field Edwards Murphy Montero
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If we play 3-5-2
Johnstone
Dawson Adabarioyo Hegazi
Holgate Morrison Johansen Brunt Gibbs
Phillips Rodriguez
Subs: Bond, Bartley, Mears, Field, Harper, Edwards, Montero
If we play 4-5-1
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Phillips Johansen Brunt Montero
Edwards
Rodriguez
Subs: Bond, Bartley, Mears, Field, Harper, Morrison, Murphy
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Johansen Field Brunt
Phillips Edwards
Rodriguez
If Johansen not fit then stick in Harper or Mozza, but for me we HAVE to play Edwards instead of lightweight Murphy. Would also put Rogers on the bench as a wildcard option for late stages if we need and Stick Field on Grealish's toes for the evening to disrupt him.
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I have a spare ticket for the east stand tomorrow night, face value £20.
Message me if you know someone who can use it
Apologies if this is the wrong location
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Does anyone know if the hawthorns express run for this game, dont think I can watch sober!!
I believe they are but check with Dave Holloway.
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I have a spare ticket for the east stand tomorrow night, face value £20.
Message me if you know someone who can use it
Apologies if this is the wrong location
Please check pm
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Anyone else feel like a sleepless night is coming up? haha, its 32 hours away and today is going very slow indeed! I just hope we give it our all, we're not expected to go through, and in a strange way, im glad we didnt get a result at villa park, as we would have then get more nervous and defensive. We have to go for it, and i think we will, scoring first half and then late late on in the second half, hegazi thumps a header in from a corner to send us to Wembley. Maybe im stupidly optimistic, i need to be realistic and see another year in this league is more likely, but we will just take it as it comes.
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I would love us to put the Vile to the sword and I will be there willing them on tomorrow night. But I just get the impression that everything is going against us.
2 strikers suspended, Injuries to Livermore and Johannson, maybe Dawson. Phillips only 75% fit, no proper manager, that git Greasyish diving for the penalty, clear penalty for us not given, A sending off for 2 dodgy yellow cards.
All this gives me the impression it's not our year. But I will accept that if we can get a team and manager together to kill this league next season and also see Leeds stuff the vile at Wembley. Seeing the villa fans in tears coming out of wembley for a 2nd year in succession will definitely make up for it. Lets face it Leeds have got unfinished business with the vile !!!
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We've only kept 3 clean sheets at home all season in the league. Chances of another one tomorrow are very slim IMO. We are going to have to score minimum of 2/3 goals to stand any chance. A huge task without Gayle.
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I think we'll go:
Johnstone
Dawson Bartley Hegazi
Holgate Gibbs
Phillips Harper Brunt
Mozza
Rodriguez
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I think we'll go:
Johnstone
Dawson Bartley Hegazi
Holgate Gibbs
Phillips Harper Brunt
Mozza
Rodriguez
I doubt Harper will play he appears to be out of favour and if the rumours going round about him are true I doubt he'll ever wear our shirt again.
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Is Joahnsen a genuine doubt then? Sorry if its a daft question....
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If we play both Morrison and Brunt in midfield, surrender.Problem is lack of energy , half of our team cannot function properly for 90 minutes. Villa can afford to lose by one goal for extra-time , we cannot go to extra-time with our players
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If we play both Morrison and Brunt in midfield, surrender.Problem is lack of energy , half of our team cannot function properly for 90 minutes. Villa can afford to lose by one goal for extra-time , we cannot go to extra-time with our players
That is a serious concern of mine too. Other teams all season have seemed fitter than us. We looked knackered after an hour on Saturday.
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I really feel like we need an early goal in the first 15/20 minutes, the place will be rocking then and I think Villa will be there for the taking. Nothing to lose attitude needed and go for it, as someone said I think we will need 3 goals here as a clean sheet is highly unlikely
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Shan hasn't got a loss against his name at home yet I believe?
We need that to carry on tomorrow, JRod was unlucky on Saturday and you know he'll run his nuts off tomorrow.
The rest of the team will have to dig in, go down as easily as they do and platy for the set pieces.
COYB
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I would love us to put the Vile to the sword and I will be there willing them on tomorrow night. But I just get the impression that everything is going against us.
2 strikers suspended, Injuries to Livermore and Johannson, maybe Dawson. Phillips only 75% fit, no proper manager, that git Greasyish diving for the penalty, clear penalty for us not given, A sending off for 2 dodgy yellow cards.
All this gives me the impression it's not our year. But I will accept that if we can get a team and manager together to kill this league next season and also see Leeds stuff the vile at Wembley. Seeing the villa fans in tears coming out of wembley for a 2nd year in succession will definitely make up for it. Lets face it Leeds have got unfinished business with the vile !!!
As a matter of interest, have Villa got a full squad to choose from?
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As a matter of interest, have Villa got a full squad to choose from?
Yes, and johansen and dawson should be fit tomorrow according to the birmingham mail. Philips may not be 100 percent but he's more than capable of causing them problems.
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All we need to do is win the game, something we've done plenty this season including against the Villa. Doesn't matter about clean sheets, we just need 1 more than them to stay in it.
Anybody old enough needs to think back to Swansea and replicate that atmosphere, anyone who isn't should be studying youtube.
As long as we give it everything, as players and supporters, then there should be no complaints.
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I believe they are but check with Dave Holloway.
Cheers mate, it is on, can have a few now!!
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Hi I have a spare ticket for the East Stand near halfway line block F3 row Ff so good seat.
I bought it as a senior ticket for £17 and its to sell for that amount
pm if you want it as it will get you a ticket for the final as well!!
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Got to be a fair chance of going to penalties.
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Got to be a fair chance of going to penalties.
I’d take that now. Can’t see Villa not scoring, hopefully the team raises their game but I just can’t see it.
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I hope people remember the play acting of the villa keeper which helped getting Gayle sent off.
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Got to be a fair chance of going to penalties.
Can't see it mate if we have to go to extra time I think we are done for. Half of our players can't even do 90 mins.
Have to do it in 90 for me.
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We need to what the song "Vindaloo" said...Score one more than you.
Defence can look after themselves, we must believe in attack.
As I have previously stated...Attack is the best form of defence.
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I think we should go with a 4-2-3-1 formation tomorrow as follows: -
Johnstone
Holgate (RB)
Dawson (RCB)
Hegazi (LCB)
Gibbs (LM)
Field (DM)
Johansen (DM)
Phillips (RW)
Morrison (AMC)
Brunt (LW)
Rodriguez (CF)
Subs: Bond, Adarabioyo, Bartley, Harper, Montero, Edwards, Soule
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I think we should go with a 4-2-3-1 formation tomorrow as follows: -
Johnstone
Holgate (RB)
Dawson (RCB)
Hegazi (LCB)
Gibbs (LM)
Field (DM)
Johansen (DM)
Phillips (RW)
Morrison (AMC)
Brunt (LW)
Rodriguez (CF)
Subs: Bond, Adarabioyo, Bartley, Harper, Montero, Edwards, Soule
I don't agree with both Brunt and Morrison being in mid field.
But having stated that, gawd knows who I would put there other than "blooding" another young 'un.
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I don't agree with both Brunt and Morrison being in mid field.
But having stated that, gawd knows who I would put there other than "blooding" another young 'un.
That is the big problem - very few options! I have noticed however that I didn't include Murphy. As easily forgettable as his performances have been, I would include him on the bench instead of either Bartley/Tosin. We need as many attacking options as possible.
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field
Edwards Harper Johansen Phillips
Rodriguez
Subs Bond, Livermore, Adarabioyo, Townsend, Hoolahan, Leko, Brunt
we need a line up like this to force a win with youth and loads of pace ,but probably start brunt and Morrison and get overrun as usual
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We can do this tommorow. The seals already think they are at Wembley let them and greasy jack think that. Fans need to create the hostile atmosphere that vile deserve and get behind our lads, forget whatever else has happened this season and BELIEVE!!!!
SOTV
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we have to take a risk with kids on this game ie Edwards,harper to start and Tulloch on the bench otherwise we will not have the legs to compete with Villa I think I would play brunt wide left or left back as his free kicks and corners are needed but we need younger legs in centre midfield , I would go 4 5 1 Brunt ,hegazi ,dawson,holgate,phillips,edwards,harper,johanssen,field and j rod, field and johanssen defensive mids,and we still have pacey threats ,in j rod,phillips,harper and Edwards,its no good picking the old uns in midfield we have to attack them.
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I don't agree with both Brunt and Morrison being in mid field.
But having stated that, gawd knows who I would put there other than "blooding" another young 'un.
I would rather see Hoolahan throwing in than Morrison. Still think it’s criminal how little game time Wes has had.
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Totally agree, never had a bad game for us but continually overlooked.
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we have to take a risk with kids on this game ie Edwards,harper to start and Tulloch on the bench otherwise we will not have the legs to compete with Villa I think I would play brunt wide left or left back as his free kicks and corners are needed but we need younger legs in centre midfield , I would go 4 5 1 Brunt ,hegazi ,dawson,holgate,phillips,edwards,harper,johanssen,field and j rod, field and johanssen defensive mids,and we still have pacey threats ,in j rod,phillips,harper and Edwards,its no good picking the old uns in midfield we have to attack them.
Good shout, hope we ditch the 3-5-2 formation as well, 3 slow centre backs is a waste tomorrow. We have to press them.
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This is our most important match since...when? ::)
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This is our most important match since...when? ::)
last Saturday!
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field
Edwards Harper Johansen Phillips
Rodriguez
I think I would have Brunt in there ahead of Johansen as an older head with the two young uns. Philips is still lacking pace and match fitness so I’m 50/50 on whether to just give him 45 and bring Leko if needs be
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We can do this tommorow. The seals already think they are at Wembley let them and greasy jack think that. Fans need to create the hostile atmosphere that vile deserve and get behind our lads, forget whatever else has happened this season and BELIEVE!!!!
SOTV
That is the one thing we can take advantage of, you can tell by his body language that even their manager thinks all they have to do is turn up.
Undoubtedly there will be a hostile atmosphere at the game tonight, but it's important that our players don't get sucked in emotionally.
To pull it off, we need cool heads, & I'm afraid this is no game for kids.
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My mates son can't go tonight so I am going in the East stand with him so my seat in the brummy is going spare. If anyone wants it pm me face value £20.00.
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We need Colin to really ratchet the temperature up to boiling point tonight.
I've said it before,their defence is shaky and will crack under pressure,so let's go for it tonight.
Also I want to see their manager cry ,another big mouth.
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Hoping for a miracle but see a struggle ahead.
Worried about our defence to be honest - I think Villa will score and we will have to try and get two or three goals without Gayle.
Looking forward to the atmosphere tonight - should be rocking !!
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Cannot afford to go a goal behind.
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We have to be 4 at the back tonight, if we are in a five I will be extremely disappointed.
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Harper Brunt
Phillips Johansen Murphy
J Rod
Harper interchangeable for Field I guess, but I would not go Mozza as the lack of midfield legs would be frightening.
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That is the one thing we can take advantage of, you can tell by his body language that even their manager thinks all they have to do is turn up.
Undoubtedly there will be a hostile atmosphere at the game tonight, but it's important that our players don't get sucked in emotionally.
To pull it off, we need cool heads, & I'm afraid this is no game for kids.
Whilst I agree with the fact we need some cool heads, which you'd expect from the more experienced players (for example, you would love to have Gareth Barry out there tonight) I do think this is the type of game that one of our younger players would relish and see it as an opportunity to really make a name for themselves.
With Gayle and HRK missing, I would like to see us give Edwards a run out. More than capable of causing a threat going forward and has that bit of unpredictability about him. Could even look to put him 'in the hole' and tell him not to worry too much about defending.
I would also be looking to pop Sam Field in the midfield today, gives us more energy.
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Johnstone
Holgate
Dawson
Hegazi
Gibbs
Field
Johansen
Phillips
Hoolahan
Edwards
Rodriguez
That would be my team.
I could see Shan going with something similar but replacing Hoolahan with Brunt and swapping Brunt and Johansen around.
I'm guessing Shan will make something like:
Johnstone
Holgate
Dawson
Bartley
Hegazi
Gibbs
Brunt
Johansen
Phillips
Murphy
Rodriguez
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Is big Wes even still on the books? :o
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Phillips looked like he wasn't quite fit the other day. Hopefully tonight he'll be on game. Can see him playing up front with Jayrod.
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Am I worried? Yes!
Do I think we will win? Yes
2-0 Albion im going for
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Morning guys, due to the clubs inability to make it clear that they were reserving tickets for tonight on the website for season ticket holders, ive got 2 tickets spare in the East Stand next to each other, I've since managed to get my Season Ticket seat in the Brummie, so if anyone wants them they can have them half price £10 each, i had sold them but the guy messed me around. I can meet you outside the Brummie prior to the match.
Drop me a PM or leave a reply here...
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4-1-4-1:
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field
Phillips Johansen Brunt Edwards
Rodriguez
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4-2-3-1:
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field Johansen
Edwards Phillips Montero
Rodriguez
Subs pretty much pick themselves in both. Wouldn't have Morrison in the squad, nor Harper as he seems disinterested. I'd have 2 of Bartley, Adarabioyo, Mears and Townsend (doesn't matter who as I don't really rate any of them). Hoolahan would be in there and probably a couple of the youngsters.
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Im convincing myself that Gayle has probably only scored in a quarter of the games we have played this season and we have managed to win games without him, only need 1 goal and a clean sheet to win on penalties and the nerves will get the better of Villa again......not convinced myself on either count yet though!! :-\
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4-1-4-1:
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field
Phillips Johansen Brunt Edwards
Rodriguez
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4-2-3-1:
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Field Johansen
Edwards Phillips Montero
Rodriguez
Subs pretty much pick themselves in both. Wouldn't have Morrison in the squad, nor Harper as he seems disinterested. I'd have 2 of Bartley, Adarabioyo, Mears and Townsend (doesn't matter who as I don't really rate any of them). Hoolahan would be in there and probably a couple of the youngsters.
With the lack of strikers we now have available, you would assume one of Tulloch, Rogers or Soule will make the bench tonight.
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First goal tonight will dictate the atmosphere....
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The first goal tonight is absolutely massive.
If Villa score first then I cant see us scoring 2 goals against a team that will just sit back and defend.
If we score first, with the crowd - we could really go at them and have them on the ropes.
I know its been said before but we (the fans) have to back the lads 100% and really be the '12th' man.
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Im convincing myself that Gayle has probably only scored in a quarter of the games we have played this season and we have managed to win games without him, only need 1 goal and a clean sheet to win on penalties and the nerves will get the better of Villa again......not convinced myself on either count yet though!! :-\
good news, we have scored in every game Gayle’s missed bar one (Hull), Bad news is results are an even spread: P6 W2 D2 L2
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If Shan starts the game with same team as Saturday minus Gayle, would like to see Wes come in to do the number 10 roll. Pack the bench with kids Murphy, Montero and Mears aren't the answer.
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Although I'm not entirely confident they'll be added to our Stile Cards, that's our three seats sorted. I think I'll print off the sale confirmation email just in case..............
........ emails printed and appropriately highlighted as per season ticket holder. Here's hoping the ticketing/turnstile system does it's job so the stewarding system isn't required. I only mention the latter because my stile card was once rejected and they automatically assumed I'd been placed on a banning order. I was still awaiting my court date ffs, talk about bloody profiling ;D .
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Don't think we'll see any pooh or bust approach tonight, Shan has already advised patience. He's also laying it on thick about the part the fans can play and I have to agree.The Villa fans bought every decision on Saturday and the ref was swayed, we need to do the same and create a really hostile atmosphere.
Not going to put a team selection up because I'm not bothered what 11 comes out so I'm going to do the only thing I can to influence the game and that's get stuck in from the 1st whistle. Games like this is what football's all about, tonight's not about money or Chairmen or racked off Chief Executives, it's about us!
COYB.
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Referee: Chris Kavanagh.
Assistant Referee: Dan Cook
Assistant Referee: Sian Massey-Ellis
Fourth Official: Lee Mason
Just noticed that this bloke we've got refereeing us tonight is the fella who sent off the Watford player Jose Holebas against West Ham on Sunday. Holebas has had his straight red revoked though as the regulatory commission have ruled that it was excessive punishment for what was only minimal contact.
Could work either way for us I suppose. It could give Grealish and co the green light to play act and give it the full dying swan performance when ever they feel a slight touch if they know the ref has very recent form for flashing the red for the slightest contact. On the other hand the ref could have it in the back of his mind to not get fooled by such antics and be wary of going over the top making these decisions as he wouldn't want to face the embarrassment of having a second decision in 3 days overturned by his superiors. Either way, after the performance of that clown Scott against us on Saturday, the officials tonight are certainly going to be in the spotlight.
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Morning guys, due to the clubs inability to make it clear that they were reserving tickets for tonight on the website for season ticket holders, ive got 2 tickets spare in the East Stand next to each other, I've since managed to get my Season Ticket seat in the Brummie, so if anyone wants them they can have them half price £10 each, i had sold them but the guy messed me around. I can meet you outside the Brummie prior to the match.
Drop me a PM or leave a reply here...
You can call the club and let them know you have two available. Plenty asking for returns.
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I'm looking for 2 adult tickets.
PM me please.
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........ emails printed and appropriately highlighted as per season ticket holder. Here's hoping the ticketing/turnstile system does it's job so the stewarding system isn't required. I only mention the latter because my stile card was once rejected and they automatically assumed I'd been placed on a banning order. I was still awaiting my court date ffs, talk about bloody profiling ;D .
Why didnt you just choose print at home tickets instead of adding to stile card? I done that to save any delay, particularly as im SME and would have had to walk a tour of the stadium to sort it!
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Why didnt you just choose print at home tickets instead of adding to stile card? I done that to save any delay, particularly as im SME and would have had to walk a tour of the stadium to sort it!
after the fiasco last week with the away tickets and a weird situation where after saying "add to stile card" to 3 tickets I got 1 of them sent in the post, I went to the ticket office yesterday to double check what was going on and they basically printed them out for me again to avoid problems tonight.
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Why didnt you just choose print at home tickets instead of adding to stile card? I done that to save any delay, particularly as im SME and would have had to walk a tour of the stadium to sort it!
I had thought of this, but my printer's playing up and won't print off PDFs. I've screen shot PDFs in the past and printed off in word but if affected the bar code clarity and ultimately the turnstile bar code reader. Printing emails is fine though, and I'm not going to buy a new printer as a fail safe for the WBA stile card option. Besides, they should have been (and hopefully will have been) added to our stile cards as per the available option.
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I would just like us to set up to go and win the game. I will never defend going into a game with Pulis tactics like we did on Saturday. We never got the rub of the green in key moments but it's hard to argue Villa don't deserve their lead and they eventually broke us down as we began to tire.
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I would just like us to set up to go and win the game. I will never defend going into a game with Pulis tactics like we did on Saturday. We never got the rub of the green in key moments but it's hard to argue Villa don't deserve their lead and they eventually broke us down as we began to tire.
there is no way in a month of sundays IMO they deserved to win that game on saturday.
we went to frustrate them and possibly come back to the hawthorns even but we went ahead, there keeper has made a world class save. Johnstone hardly had to make a save, and scored a great goal and a penalty. we were denied a stone wall penalty.
at the very worst, we should have left with a draw. just bad management when bringing Mears on.
i think we were very very unlucky.
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I am 52x and for me beating Vile to get to the Playoff Final will top pretty much anything. It’s a double whammy, success for us and putting one over on the real enemy.
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I think Shan's selection will be much more cautious than people are expecting tonight. I would look to have a starting XI that could be quite flexible tactically. It is a shame that Phillips isn't match fit, I did find it surprising that he didn't start a game in the run-in to build his fitness up. I think I would go (although i expect Shan's selection to be different):
Johnstone
Holgate
Dawson
Hegazi
Phillips
Harper
Brunt
Johansen (Field if Johansen isn't fit)
Gibbs
Rodriguez
Murphy
Bond, Adarabioyo, Townsend, Field (Hoolahan if Johansen not fit), Morrison, Edwards, Montero
I have doubts about starting Phillips but as we are behind, I think it is best to get an hour or whatever he can manage out of him. I like Holgate as part of the back 3 as it gives us the ability to switch to a back 4 and with the team above that could be to go 4231 or 433. As much as I have been desperately disappointed with Murphy, he still has more quality than the other options so would give him the nod.
Word on Bartley, I thought defensively he did well on Saturday but that's what he is about, defending deep and getting rid. We will need to be more proactive and at play higher up tonight - on those occasions he looks all at sea so wouldn't have him involved. Adarabioyo would get the nod on the bench as he could play right back if needed.
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Why didnt you just choose print at home tickets instead of adding to stile card? I done that to save any delay, particularly as im SME and would have had to walk a tour of the stadium to sort it!
What do you suggest those without a printer print it with it?
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Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Bartley Gibbs
Brunt Johansen Mozza
Phillips
Rodriguez
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Unfortunately I'm unable to go tonight so will be watching on the box.
This potentially has the makings of a memorable night (hopefully for the right reasons).
Those who are there enjoy it and stay positive.
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there is no way in a month of sundays IMO they deserved to win that game on saturday.
we went to frustrate them and possibly come back to the hawthorns even but we went ahead, there keeper has made a world class save. Johnstone hardly had to make a save, and scored a great goal and a penalty. we were denied a stone wall penalty.
at the very worst, we should have left with a draw. just bad management when bringing Mears on.
i think we were very very unlucky.
I agree. Villa created very little before their first goal and in the first hour at least I felt we were pretty comfortable. If the ref gives the stonewall penalty against Holgate and doesn't get conned by the Villa keeper for Gayle's second yellow then it would have finished a draw which I think would have been a fairer reflection of the game.
I would also add that Villa were at full strength while our squad was stretched for a variety of reasons: Livermore and Barry injured; Robson-Kanu suspended; Dawson enforced substitution at half-time; Phillips out of match fitness due to his long lay-off and a more or less enforced substitution because of this in the second half; and down to 10 men for almost 10 minutes at the end with our best striker unjustly sent-off. Despite all of this the score-line flattered Villa.
I'm feeling pretty bullish about our chances tonight. I'd like to see Edwards and Tulloch in the 18. Both need to be on the pitch in the last 20-30 minutes if the situation is that we need a goal. I think their defence can be got at and our young players' pace and unpredictability combined with their fearlessness of youth can be our trump card.
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I cannot call how things will go tonight. Am absolutely desperate for us to do it of course and will be there willing us on. Team selection is a real issue though. I think we have to start with Phillips pushed up to support Jay. Maybe if and when he tires we would introduce Edwards. Personally I have not seen enough in him to date to suggest starting with him... COYB
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I'd be very disappointed if Murphy starts let alone features.
The bloke is powder puff.
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Posted on twitter and another forum..
https://twitter.com/WBA/status/1128253874618298368?s=19
Note: may bring a lump to your throat
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Posted on twitter and another forum.....
https://mobile.twitter.com/wba/status/11...4618298368
Note: may bring a lump to your throat
Bad link !
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Link not working?
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I've updated the link :D
Try again
https://twitter.com/WBA/status/1128253874618298368?s=19
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We have to be 4 at the back tonight, if we are in a five I will be extremely disappointed.
Johnstone
Holgate Dawson Hegazi Gibbs
Harper Brunt
Phillips Johansen Murphy
J Rod
Harper interchangeable for Field I guess, but I would not go Mozza as the lack of midfield legs would be frightening.
I think you will be disappointed Fritzl…. Mind you so will I if Murphy and Harper both play (desire?????)
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Here’s the team talk sorted👍👍
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=280264636251669&id=44784315079&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fwestbromwichalbionofficial%2Fvideos%2F280264636251669%2F&_rdr
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Seen it now.... Superb
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I've updated the link :D
Try again
https://twitter.com/WBA/status/1128253874618298368?s=19
excellent, thanks for that ! very motivating, wall of noise lads !!!
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I'm not misunderstanding anything. When Lukaku scored his hattrick goal the place went bananas.
Tuesday will be a nervy quiet night imo.
Quiet night?? I bloody hope not!!
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Another night like this👍👍
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=280264636251669&id=44784315079&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fwestbromwichalbionofficial%2Fvideos%2F280264636251669%2F&_rdr
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Be a miracle if he doesn't play 3 at the back.
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Quiet night?? I bloody hope not!!
Not from my seat it won't.
It's one thing to come on here and moan about everything and anything but, if any fan struggles to get up for a game like this then, they are watching football for the wrong reasons.
Said before, tonight is not about money, dodgy chairmen or feckless executives, it's about US and OUR club. If we can't raise our game then why should we expect them to?
COYB. Whatever the result, leave nothing behind!
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Oops! Sorry.
I meant “another night like this oneâ€
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/05/14/that-atmosphere-will-always-stay-with-me-ian-hamilton-tells-west-brom-to-evoke-spirit-of-93/
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Not from my seat it won't.
It's one thing to come on here and moan about everything and anything but, if any fan struggles to get up for a game like this then, they are watching football for the wrong reasons.
Said before, tonight is not about money, dodgy chairmen or feckless executives, it's about US and OUR club. If we can't raise our game then why should we expect them to?
COYB. Whatever the result, leave nothing behind!
Exactly this.
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I couldn't talk properly for a week after the home game against them this season. Hopefully I won't be able to talk properly for a month after tonight.
Was a mere 15 year old for the Swansea game in 1993 and never heard anything like it since.
Let's all see if we can replicate it tonight.
Get on the refs back from the off, hurl abuse at Squelish and their keeper as well, but most importantly get behind absolutely everybody in a Blue & White shirt tonight!
COYB, SOTV!!!
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Oops! Sorry.
I meant “another night like this oneâ€
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/05/14/that-atmosphere-will-always-stay-with-me-ian-hamilton-tells-west-brom-to-evoke-spirit-of-93/
I never saw that footage before, remember the game well, one of my all time favourite baggies Andy Hunt in his pomp. Great to hear the King as well !
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Albion staff have apparently placed a flag on every home seat "to ensure the Baggies enter the stadium to a sea of blue and white" for this evening
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Albion staff have apparently placed a flag on every home seat "to ensure the Baggies enter the stadium to a sea of blue and white" for this evening
Would make sense and tie in with the timings on the website which ask for fans to be seated at 7.45pm.
Whatever your thoughts on the club, the owners, the players or the performances of this season are, just get behind the lads for these 90 minutes.
COME ON YOU BAGGIES!
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Lai buys scarves, pints and now flags. I wish he would buy some decent players instead ::)
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Proper manager employed first please.
COYB!!!!!
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What do you suggest those without a printer print it with it?
I assumed every one had access to a printer, clearly not! But if you live near a library you can print for free or print off at work or just completely ignore what I said and do as you wish??
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I assumed every one had access to a printer, clearly not! But if you live near a library you can print for free or print off at work or just completely ignore what I said and do as you wish??
I've not had a printer for at least 4 years. Why would I want paper stuff?
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The past year has been a difficult one for me. Fortunately, things are slowing normalising now however the result is I now have a different perspective on life.
It has shown me the importance of putting 100% into everything, not to sweat the small stuff and most importantly make memories.
I will be watching from the sofa tonight however all I will say is for 90 mins put any issues aside, give 100% support and make memories.
I've seen in the last year what amazing things can be done with a bit of work and some positivity.
If it doesn't work out tonight, were the Albion and we'll go again!
Enjoy!
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I've not had a printer for at least 4 years. Why would I want paper stuff?
Really? We need one at home, especially with the kids and their homework, then there is boarding passes, tickets, etc. Saying that most of my printing is still done at work (their ink and paper and all that!)
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Leaving home now.
Can't remember the last time I was so nervous before a game.
There are some games you really want to win.
And there are some games you really, really want to win.
And then there are games like these.
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From the website, need this to continue tonight!!
Stats
Albion
• Albion scored the most league goals at home of all the Championship clubs, netting 53 times in front of the crowd at The Hawthorns.
• Under Jimmy Shan, Albion have won all of their last five home games.
• The Baggies need to score to level the tie - and Albion have scored 15 goals in their last five home games, and have conceded just six.
Opposition
• Villa haven’t won at The Hawthorns in their last seven attempts.
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I assumed every one had access to a printer, clearly not! But if you live near a library you can print for free or print off at work or just completely ignore what I said and do as you wish??
Worcestershire charge. >:(
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Leaving for ground shortly.... come on !!!!
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I couldn't talk properly for a week after the home game against them this season. Hopefully I won't be able to talk properly for a month after tonight.
Was a mere 15 year old for the Swansea game in 1993 and never heard anything like it since.
Let's all see if we can replicate it tonight.
Get on the refs back from the off, hurl abuse at Squelish and their keeper as well, but most importantly get behind absolutely everybody in a Blue & White shirt tonight!
COYB, SOTV!!!
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Oops! Sorry.
I meant “another night like this oneâ€
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/05/14/that-atmosphere-will-always-stay-with-me-ian-hamilton-tells-west-brom-to-evoke-spirit-of-93/
I tore a back muscle celebrating Hamilton’s goal. I’d gladly go through the same pain again for another similar outcome. Wish I could be there. COYB!!
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Apparently Villa have a full squad available. >:(
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Phillips needs to start, if you bring him on with 30 mins left he may not make it through if there is any extra time.
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Murhpy for Gayle only change :(
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Murhpy for Gayle only change :(
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Murhpy for Gayle only change :(
Yeah rubbish. Murphy how is consistently awful for Gayle and the same slow midfield and back 5. Leko and Harper back on the bench, good but Edwards not even in the 16.
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Yeah Murphy is trash but oh well, COYB!
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Villa make 2 changes Green and Hourihane in for Adomah and Whelan.
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Johnstone, Holgate, Hegazi, Dawson, Bartley, Gibbs, Johansen, Brunt, Phillips, Murphy, Rodriguez. Bench: Bond, Townsend, Adarabiyio, Morrison, Harper, Montero, Leko.
COYB
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To all you sour faced silent sleeping so called supporters I have met recently at the shrine. NOW The time to give it a go and make yourself heard COYB do something to help the team you purport to support
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Not impressed by team selection, Murphy is pants.
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We need the defence, Rodriguez, Phillip's and Brunt to play well if we want a realistic chance. I can't ever remember feeling as resigned to defeat as I do tonight. I genuinely feel like we've got no chance tonight.
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outstanding atmosphere as the clubs come out onto the pitch
COYB
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Seem well up for this so far. Good positive start.
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Pulis ball? Hoof and then back passing. In less than 5 minutes
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Crowd sounds good
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This is horrible.
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Two games and two penalties we should have had.
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Handball there. Definite penalty.
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I think it was a penalty, but also think we were lucky to keep the ball just before when Johansen blocked whoever it was. Sums up our luck really.
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Need a goal to settle the nerves I think.
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We haven’t offered a lot going forward so far. We are missing Gayle already
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Bunch of cheats this lot. Glad the referee saw the handball
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We haven’t offered a lot going forward so far. We are missing Gayle already
Murphy has been nonexistent
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Better hope we can keep a clean sheet as there's no way we're scoring more than once.
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Conceding possession. We just dont look like a threat.
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We are bunching. We must spread them.
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We are so poor on the ball. Making them look better than they are.
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Our passing is Sunday league level.
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Are we really the home team? 25 minutes gone and we’ve hardly got into their penalty area.
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Murphy isnt getting into the right positions up front when we have the ball.
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Brunt and Murphy what do they offer?
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Villa a far better footballing side tonight
As has been all season there’s no real cohesion in the team
Can’t work out what we’re trying to do half the time
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Yeßsssßssssssssssssssss
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DAWSON!!!!
GET IN!!!!
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YEEESSSSSSSS
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Need to keep our heads now.
First job done.
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Murphy’s contribution so far is zero.
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have to admit I expected more posts after we scored but ok
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Johansen is like Pepe out there ;D
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have to admit I expected more posts after we scored but ok
Everyone is at the game or in the pub :D
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Everyone is at the game or in the pub :D
oh ok then ;D
dangerous naughty word for them here ...
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Smith an Terry are giving the assistant ref plenty of verbals
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Smith an Terry are giving the assistant ref plenty of verbals
Appleton will sort them out! ;D
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Smith an Terry are giving the assistant ref plenty of verbals
One of them needs to go to the stands, fed up of seeing Smiths whining face
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Like dangerman said we cannot let up keep playing as if we’re still down. Keep the intensity up!!
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Everyone is at the game or in the pub :D
Or hiding behind our sofas and pacing around the house!
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Good lord Villa is whining to the referee after every single decision.
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Need someone stronger than Murphy on, he's getting brushed off the ball.
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Villa 65 per cent possey
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Everytime I watch Jack Grealish I just think Joey Essex.
This whole Villa side has the air of a spoilt child about them.
Brunt and Johansen absolutely putting it too them! Also loved the way Dawson smashed the ball at Grealish after the Holgate foul too.
HT has come at a bad time for us IMO.
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would had been happy with the 1-0 at the half, so no complaints here other than probably need to sub out Murphy
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Need to come out 2nd half keep it cool and we will get another goal
Please Albion put these to bed...please
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Time to just take a breath and get ready for the second half. Was getting ready to boil over and I'm not sure who would go first!
Mings on a yellow needs someone running at him to draw a foul or 2
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Murphy off at half time please..anonymous 1st half and so lightweight..not sure what he is offering the team...
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yeah really need a different option to Murphy up front. we are struggling to build in open play because he is offering nothing.
Otherwise we look decent.
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Lets get at them, Bring Montero/Leko on for Murphy and run at them, That switch pass is always on. Brunt worrys me as once again offers nothing in the middle, Harper should come on to help Johansson.
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Murphy off at half time please..anonymous 1st half and so lightweight..not sure what he is offering the team...
Played the best pass of the game so far. As anonymous as Phillips IMO unfortunately he's the new whipping boy.
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Get Murphy off F ing playing with ten men with him on the pitch. Need more legs in midfield to help Johansen, Brunt is doing naff all.
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Nerves are shot. Decent enough from us so far. Murphy us too quiet. Need to keep it up though and not tire like in the first leg. Defo penalty for us.
Loved Gayle's reaction for the goal.
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Villa fans moaning on twitter about the ref. I can't believe the cheek of them
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we need to stay patient and take one of the few chances we create. set pieces will be so important and that's where Brunt can do the damage.
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Come on Albion let’s have a quick one second half and really pile it on the Witton scum’
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Played the best pass of the game so far. As anonymous as Phillips IMO unfortunately he's the new whipping boy.
arguably, yes, but that's all he did these 45 minutes. Did not win any split decisions that where around him and nothing is really being played through him. He looks good in that one situation, on the ball with space to run, but otherwise he's a zero to the left.
On the other hand, it'd be either Montero or Leko for him and I'm not excited about either one in this game. Would probably go Leko.
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I'd bring Murphy off and give Montero or Harper a run out.
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going to go on record and say I approve of Shan's calm approach to this game. Knew it was just a one goal deficit and didn't panic, stuck to his plan. Most of us may not be fans of the conservative approach but I think it's been the right call.
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First half checklist
â˜‘ï¸ - by any means necessary do not let Villa get a goal
â˜‘ï¸ - somehow, someway score a goal and level this up
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arguably, yes, but that's all he did these 45 minutes. Did not win any split decisions that where around him and nothing is really being played through him. He looks good in that one situation, on the ball with space to run, but otherwise he's a zero to the left.
On the other hand, it'd be either Montero or Leko for him and I'm not excited about either one in this game. Would probably go Leko.
What has Phillips done of note? Unfortunately all of the front 3 are feeding off scraps and the middle two cannot get on the ball.
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Starting this second half in as good a situation as we could have asked for. Now let’s take advantage of the fact we finished above them and get to play this all important second leg in front of our home crowd.
Be smart and play with the utmost intensity at all times!! Can not afford switching off at any time!!
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Murphy is so weak on the ball - easily brushed off
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Messing around by their area....Pass the ball !
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Murphy a lot more involved this second half to say the least.
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Great Murphy effort but keeper’s rebound runs unkindly for Rodriguez
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Fair play, Murphy is a different animal this half!!!
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I thought HT came at a poor time. So glad that we have carried it on!
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We need to turn our territorial possession this half into a goal
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Johansen off please. He's arguably been our best player but on a yellow he's a complete liability the way he's playing.
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I thought HT came at a poor time. So glad that we have carried it on!
agreed, just have to hope we can sustain this
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Gayle would be having a field day against these
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This is horrid!
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They attack i n numbes we only go down 1 or 2 at a time.
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Having been unable to take advantage of this many great chances and not capitalizing on the clear mistakes by Villa I can’t help but get nervous that it’s going to cost us. Couldn’t be happier on how the half has started though!!
Cmon Albion keep heads up and focused, it there for the taking take advantage of playing at home!!
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Brunt so close with a skimmer. Brunt then booked
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Brunt was lucky not to be sent off
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We're tiring.
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have to be patient with the subs with the possibility of ET out there.
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Time for Morrison to earn his corn as he replaces Johansen
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Harper on for Phillips. We are getting weaker
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Harper on!
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Bartley has been very good today
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Absolute bell end. Morrisons fault and then Hegazis mind. Woeful defending all round.
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Oh Chris Brunt, why !!!!!????
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I have no words
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Absolute idiot
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What an idiot
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Stupid Brunt tackle and he rightly sees red. Ffs
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Terrible free kick
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I don't understand this last substitution ....
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Never lets us down. Jeezus Christ. Mozza fucks it all up to start with. What a pair.
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First decent performance in months and we kill it because of shocking subs and the fact we can’t keep 11 men on the pitch.
Montero on after an hour and we’d have won this.
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Even Brunty now. Why? :o
Why the lack of discipline in the whole squad?
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I don't understand this last substitution ....
Nor me. Consigning ourselves to playing for the draw for another 40 minutes. Will be inviting pressure for the duration now.
Is literally going to be Attack v Defence.
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he's no central midfielder ,but that's no excuse for a series of diabolical tackles.
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If we do manage to get through we’ll have Brunt, Gayle and Robson-Kanu missing at Wembley in the play offs.
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Our best chance is to go at them in the last 10 mins.
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Oh Chris Brunt, why !!!!!????
cause hes a tool hopefully the last we see of the old twonk
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Save of the season right there.
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JRod is blowing out of his backside
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holy smokes what a save by Johnstone on point-blank range from Adomah
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Great SJ
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Twice Morrison has put us under pressure by failing to get rid. First one led to Brunt getting a second yellow, that nearly cost a goal. Looks completely lost out there.
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Terrible final sub. We have to have players on who can counter with pace. We can't just defend for however much longer this game goes on.
Brunt should be done in the summer. So so irresponsible, and completely unforgivable too.
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One way traffic.
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The hell was that??
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it seems we also don't have anyone who can handle set pieces at this point.
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good work getting this to ET after Brunty's red, time to regroup. Does ET buy us an extra sub?
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Brunt has massively cost us tonight. No excuses.
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Yes can have a 4th sub in et
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We now have a lot of old men huffing and puffing for the next 30 minutes. And a couple of lightweight youngsters.
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Last sub was baffling!
We need some pace for a full on counter attack as they will be pushing for the win now and throwing people forward and we bring on a CH :-\
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It's like following England isn't it?
They build you up and then one of them goes and does something stupid.
Trying to be positive but I suspect despite us playing well we will lose this due to tiredness. Horrible way to lose a game like this though.
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Brunt has massively cost us tonight. No excuses.
Hegazi should be clearing that , same old messing in our own 25
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God I hope I'm wrong but I can't see us keeping them out for another 30 minutes, we looked comfortable and villa have created nothing but the red has completely changed the game.
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Hegazi should be clearing that , same old messing in our own 25
No way they should've gotten that clean of a shot
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Shan clearly decided he's playing for penalties when Brunt went off. Again he got the tactics right but the subs wrong. **** it COYB
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We are knackered. Suck it up. One big push guys. Fancy us on Penalties,
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Leko, to run at em on his own now,
just took our pen taker off :o
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Rodriguez off? Our main penalty taker? Just keep him on. Shambles.
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Leko to score the winner? 8)
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Disagree with those saying we shouldn't have taken off JRod. We would have been playing with 9 men for 30 minutes if we kept him on.
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Rodriguez off? Our main penalty taker? Just keep him on. Shambles.
I cant see 5 penalty takers in our line up
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I cant see 5 penalty takers in our line up
Morrison, Phillips, Murphy, Gibbs... :-\
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It won't go to penaties....We are a powder puff side.
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It won't go to penaties....We are a powder puff side.
Agreed. I've resigned my self to the fact villa will score.
We've done all we can you can't plan for what Brunt did unfortunately.
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Morrison, Phillips, Murphy, Gibbs... :-\
Phillips has been subbed
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Phillips has been subbed
:o Good point. Well we've got 3. Hegazi has too take one. MOTM by a country mile.
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To be fair they're all professional footballers they should be able to take a penalty. Including the keeper!
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We are being outclassed, sadly.
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Looking tired now, just need a bit of luck
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They just have an extra man. We were well on top till Brunty lost his head again.
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We are being outclassed, sadly.
down 1 man in ET? you don't say ...
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We are being outclassed, sadly.
I mean not too badly. Villa aren't getting great chances really
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We are being outclassed, sadly.
You can’t knock the team and performance today! Brunt and his stupidity ruined the game for us
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down 1 man in ET? you don't say ...
Got anything positive to say about the match?
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Regardless of what happens they've given everything tonight.
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we only need to score 1 penalty if Johnstone saves villas.😃😃😃
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Superb defensive performance since the red card. They are knackered but still going.
Need to see this out to penalties and hopefully we keep our cool.
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Got anything positive to say about the match?
I could argue we looked the better side up until Brunty's red.
Also, we've scored and they haven't so I'd say that's positive ...
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Ironically if we'd have defended like this for a few of our other games this season we may have gone up automatically.
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How good to catch them on the break with a minute to go
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Can someone tell Leko what to do, he looks lost
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well we should've had a penalty in the first half too. Evens out
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Can someone tell Leko what to do, he looks lost
The reason he is not a footballer
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Morrison, Gibbs, Bartley, Dawson, Harper.
My bet for the first 5 :o
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Come on Sam
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Hit them HARD and low, lads.
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Just can’t see the right players on the pitch to win on penalties whilst Villa do
I’m shaking with nerves
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I feel sick
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Our best chance since we went down to ten men.
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Oh how i hope greasylish misses the decider !
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Its about b******ks right now.
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I honestly can't watch, come on Sam.
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No one's mentioned the female lines man! ::) :P :P :D ;)
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Holgate up first ...
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Fair play to that performance from those on the pitch. Can be proud of that no matter what.
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Holgate up first ...
Do not understand that for the life of me. So much pressure on young shoulders. Bad call even if the player wanted too take it. One of the older heads should have said no, I'm having the 1st.
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It’s over
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Amen
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Oh man I can’t take this!! Leave it to us to not have a striker available to take a single kick!! This is crazy!!
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That penalty order was a shambles. Absolutely baffling.
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Thanks Brunt.
Dont let the door hit you on the way out!
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Brunt the idiot
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That should be the last we see of Chris Brunt.
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Let the massive clear out begin
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well thats that
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Lads and fans gave it their all, shame Lai and Jenkins cant say the same. They are a disgrace.
Hopefully the end of the old guard but no doubt Mozza will extend his opton and Brunt will stay.
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Don’t want to scapegoat but Brunt clearly cost us.
So much hope this season. Now we are into the unknown. Next appointment is massive.
Nothing much else to say.
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I feel physically sick!
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Come on , Hegazi messing around meant Brunt had to try and stop Mcginn on his left foot
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The easiest chance we'll have to get to the Prem and we fluff it. The board are disgraceful.
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They always let you down.
However very proud of that team tonight, ground was rocking and I thought that was by far our best performance of the season.
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So what cost us?? Brunt?!
Or perhaps not getting another striker in when it was glaringly obvious or hiring a manager with no experience.
Brunt may have been silly tonight but three strikers (one being HRK) when you start with two is what cost us.
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Pathetic blaming Brunt TBH. I've been a critic of his but the whole midfield is gash.
Villa outplayed us over 2 legs and deserved it.
Let's hope Leeds beat them as they finished 3rd not ******* 5th.
Brunt cost us big time tonight, we had them on the ropes 11 v 11. For a player of his expereince that should be the last we see of him tonight.
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He will get his contact same as Mozza.
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FFS! all that hard work for the backline to take spot kicks.
P#ssed off doesn't come near to what I am feeling. Brunt will never learn about rash challenges, deserved a red and destroyed any momentum we had.
Four defenders taking penalties .... inconceivable !!!
Now we can move on to the new manager search and see whats left after the vultures have picked our team apart. I fear we face many years in the Championship now.
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Come on , Hegazi messing around meant Brunt had to try and stop Mcginn on his left foot
I'm not going to say too much but Brunt has stayed two seasons too long in my opinion.
I'm disappointed as villa haven't really threatened us over the two legs yet they still squeek through.
Dodgy referee decisions cost us over these two games however the board have cost us this season.
But as I said early were Albion and we'll go again!
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Absolutely criminal to not have enough attackers in this squad who can actually come in and make a difference to this team
Brunt possibly cost us this game
Can see a clear out now and a rebuild job
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4 defenders taking penalties say no more.
Who the fec picked that line up.
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Great character to hold on. Probably too knackered to take pens in the end. We needed to score in 2nd half when were the better team. Hopefully they lose in the final ......convincingly or on pens?
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Brunt cost us big time tonight, we had them on the ropes 11 v 11. For a player of his expereince that should be the last we see of him tonight.
Villa had us on the back foot and dominated the ball on our own patch.
What really v cost us was Shan parking the bus at 0-1 at Seal Park.
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Villa had all the ball but did nothing with it. It was ours to lose, hey ho it's done now.
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we looked safe until the sending off, endorsed what s been mentioned all season that Brunt is not a central midfielder. so annoying to end up in that situation with no strikers to fill in for the absence of Gayle and HRK. it was apparent before the season started we needed midfield reinforcements and that's where I think it's gone wrong. Will add though that if we could have retained Harvey Barnes all season we'd have gone up automatically, some on here said he's no big loss, they were wrong he was a huge loss who made this team so different to what it is without him.
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The players and fans did us proud tonight. Brunt silliness DID cost us tonight paint it however you want. The game changed after his red and not having a strike force cost us even more.
The two reds decided this two legged tie. The lack of seeing the bigger picture from the board cost us the season.
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Barnes was a massive massive loss. Murhpy wouldnt have played tonight for starters. Glad to see him gone.
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Please can we get an actual manager in charge with experience. To say we've done this with two rookies over the season speaks volumes about the potential this squad had to push on this season if properly managed. What is our squad going to look like next season? Gibbs,Hegazi, Dawson, (Holgate, Tosin-loans) will most likely leave... straight away back line is in need of serious recruitment. We have well and truly messed up our chance this season, love big dave but think the risk of letting him feel his way through management at such an important time for the club has backfired unfortunately. Can't help but feel doom and gloom our squad is going to be ridiculously different, not saying its a bad thimg but how many years is it going to take, hopefully we get some excitement in the next couple years
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Proud of them to a man tonight they showed unbelievable character and can hold their heads high. Dictated the play pretty much in both games and had it not been for an awful referee in the first game we’d have beaten them. Time for a much needed clear out now and a 5 year plan has to be put in place we may suffer the next few years but it needs to happen now.
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It's embarrassing playing like that we haven't moved on from the Pulis days of scrambling a set piece goal and defending for our lives.
In the league our defenders never put their bodies on the line like tonight. Lack of motivation and soft mentality.
Be a Man and admit Villa were better over 2 legs.
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Proud of all the lads who stayed on the pitch. Indiscipline cost us in the playoffs, but over the season as a whole we were not good enough to go up... still feel sick.
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Glad the season's over, been diabolical from start to finish. Appoint sh*t managers, win sh*t prizes. The team selection, subs and use of the squad this season has been atrocious. Tactically we've been clueless and we've been awful to watch under both head coaches for different reasons. Even tonight, we had our foot on Villa's throat in the second half and we make the most cowardly subs possible to shoot ourselves in the foot. Montero would have had their defence on toast, even Murphy had the better of them.
Nobody deserves to lose like that more than Jenkins, we'll be in this division for the forseeable under that cretin. I'm going to enjoy a nice long summer without having to watch us play before inevitably returning next season for more rubbish served up by the next in a long line of dour and uninspiring managers.
Don't care who wins the play offs now, all 3 of them appointed good head coaches and have planned for the future. It's better for football if clubs run by clowns like our board aren't in the PL.
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Couldn’t ask for much more tonight. Not surprised that Brunt was dumb enough to floor a Villa player after being on a yellow. He doesn’t have the legs to play in the middle and jumps into rash challenges. J-Rod worked hard but offered no threat whatsoever, laughable to compare him to Gayle. I thought Johnson was superb during the game. Amazing save to take it to extra time. But then meek on penalties. Didn’t stay big like Steele and could / should have saved that penalty from Abraham that was poor. Clear mistake letting young inexperienced Holgate take the first pen. If your doing that give it to Leko or Harper, more natural footballers. Hegazi wasn’t that bad a penalty but he paid no attention to their GK and didn’t look particularly interested before or after he took it, same dead eyed stare. We weren’t good enough this year and need to move heaven and earth to keep Gayle and then clear out the dead wood OAP midfielders and I include Livermore in that bracket. We need players that can pass the ball and get around the pitch. Also desperately need another striker to help Gayle out, 3 with HRK and J-Rod isn’t good enough.
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Unforgivable from Brunt. Honestly it's time to move on from him anyway but to do that today is so so irresponsible and should be the final nail for him.
Much bigger problems would still be there even if we had come through tonight, but the game was there for the taking and he basically ruined any chance of winning pre-pens (and probably would have improved our odds for pens too).
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Why on earth didn't Dawson take a penalty ? , taken plenty before.
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You have to look at tonight and compare our squads with Villa. The midfield and firepower they had vs us was laughable and still they lost on the night to our kids and ten men ha ha (small consolation but they're nowhere near being as good as their fans think).
Jenkins needs to take the Brunt tonight (see what i did there) . Wonder if we'll ever see a proper manager and midfielders who can pass and run again at the Hawthorns?
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I know it was 10 v 11 for a long time but our ball retention and passing was so poor when we did get the ball.
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Why on earth didn't Dawson take a penalty ? , taken plenty before.
Good shout, I would have backed him putting his foot through the ball over Holgate, Hegazi.
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Great effort with 10 men. At least our experienced players used their heads....
Makes the penalty on Holgate at VP even more galling.
Gayle plays tonight and we win...
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The two reds decided this two legged tie. The lack of seeing the bigger picture from the board cost us the season.
Couldn’t agree more. The owner & board have shown themselves to be clueless & by their deeds, we are now screwed.
Can expect the usual fire sale/asset strip to make as much cash as possible to try to cut their losses.
2 questions.
Who, in their right mind, would want to buy this club?
What right minded, young, talented footballer would want to sign for this club?
We are a shambles
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It just wasn't to be. I am finding it hard to find criticism tonight after the effort the boys put in. Ultimately, we were screwed over by the officials at Vile Park?
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4 defenders taking penalties say no more.
Who the fec picked that line up.
4 defenders who were absolutely knackered take the penalties FFS what is going on????? Don't blame Brunt,he was absolutely shattered and just put a tired leg out. Substitutions should have come thick and fast....NOT AT THE END FFS.
GET A REAL manager in who can sort this mess out!!!!!
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agree about the officials at seal park but they haven't screwed us, that honour goes to the incompetence shown by our board.
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Did i forget to write sack the board
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Team selection cost us tonight Brunt is not a central midfielder and the stupid insistence on playing him in there has cost the club over a 100 million. Shan is a poor version of Pulis.
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So proud of the players for getting to pens after Brunt cost us SO dearly once again and truly gave there all to it. At least 2 years too long that bloke has been allowed to stay at this club, I absolutely relish the day he leaves.
Add a Harvey Barnes of Dwight Gayle in that line-up tonight and we'd have taken it. But frankly I'm glad we didn't take progress because nobody in that hierarchy deserved the 'get out of jail free' card after the way we have been ran these last 2/3 years.
Don't recognise this board, don't recognise the management, don't recognise the team. Never been more disconnected and disenfranchised by my beloved albion.
I want my club back
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Gutted we have lost. Brunt obviously at fault but, on his defence, he's forced into a rash challenge by Hegazi giving the ball away on the edge of the box. We would have won that game tonight with Gayle on there.
Even with a rookie manager and a feather light squad we nearly made it. The players gave it their all but our squad came up short. 4 defenders taking pens, not enough forwards, having to bring on Morisson to do nothing. I fear for next season. Sign gayle, get a new manager and start the rebuild.
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4 defenders who were absolutely knackered take the penalties FFS what is going on????? Don't blame Brunt,he was absolutely shattered and just put a tired leg out. Substitutions should have come thick and fast....NOT AT THE END FFS.
GET A REAL manager in who can sort this mess out!!!!!
we needed 4x Igor Balis.
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Great credit to Shan , you've done the best you can .
Overall when all said and done you have to look at the top , Moore was sacked late Feb I think .
Its now May and we still have a rookie in charge , hang your heads in shame Lai , Jenkins and Dowling .
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All i can say is think what we could have done had we a full squad to pick from.
We can blame Brunt, Gayle or HRK, but ultimately there are many incidents this season that have cost us.
The lads played their hearts out tonight and the fans were superb. We played right to the very last kick.
Gutted we didn't win, but ultimately, do you honestly think we'd have had a successful season in the PL with this squad?
Well done to JS for his efforts.
Anyway. We beat Villa, which is all we asked for.
Boing boing x
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Funnily enough I am not that bothered, which is weird because usually I would be.
Tonight I am glowing with pride, it was the best atmosphere I can remember, the players all did their best and it just wasn't to be.
Tonight showed me why I love the Albion whereas the Villa fans were quiet for 100+ minutes only to explode when they won.
I think next season will be much harder but it won't stop me loving West Brom.
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Can all the negativity and moaning go on a separate thread please, maybe a post season thread, this after match debate deserves a little bit of pride in a brave performance from the team, and magnificent support from the fans. Felt we gave an average Villa team a little more respect than they deserved too.
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Brunt was rash but I personally would blame Hegazi more for diddling on the ball too long in a dangerous situation. Never felt like we win since Gayle sending off.
Delighted to win in normal time but down to ten felt we best had to hold out for penalties. Possibly six of our first choice penalty takers werent involved and Villa could bring on a late sub to add to theirs.
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I can't ever remember a time when I've been more proud of our team. My god. Everything went against us over the two legs and to force extra time given everything that happened to us was a near miracle, an unbelievably gutsy effort.
Villa weren't going to score tonight whatever happened, we were a brick wall of a team foe once.
To get as far as we did and lose on penalties is just damn cruel. As always happens though in a huge match between us and the scum they always win through one way or another.
Just think, if the ref had done his job properly in the first leg and given us a penalty for Abraham's barge on Holgate we'd almost certainly have won the tie.
I hope whoever they get at Wembley turns them over.
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Back in the car. Gutted but proud of all the lads. Brunt was sold out by Morrison and Hegazi and had to challenge McGinn. The ultra negative approach from our trio of coaches and the substitutions cost us any chance of winning outside of a penalty shoot out, while we are rightly proud of their resilience there is more than one way to skin a cat. You could argue we ended the game with 5 centre halves on a pitch of 9 outfield players, imagine if Pulis had done this.
Shout out for Johnstone who was imperious during the match.
Used up all his penalty luck in the first 8 games. Didn't look like saving any of the half dozen taken in this tie.
The weakness of our attacking and midfield options from the squad players beggars belief and Dowling and Jenkins should be first out the door.
Is Shan unlucky or is he a bad manager? Tosin on the bench Saturday and Field tonight makes all the difference after the red cards.
We would have had nothing left for Wembley anyway imo. Feel for you lads who see these as your biggest rivals.
Onto next season. Hopefully the big decisions needed in the summer come off.
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A lot of knee jerk reaction on here which is understandable...bad mistake by Brunt yes but he'd pulled the strings up to the sending off. .Villa were never in the game up to that point...we played really well tonight and should have taken our chances....I for one an extremely proud how we beat a good Villa side tonight and if we kept 11 on the pitch would have more than likely been through. Even at 10 men they couldn't score but with 11 we were by far the better team.
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Most those who started did us proud. I say most because Murphy is awful, and I need to see the brunt red again to judge if it was forgivable.
I’m not sure even with Brunt we would of won before penalties, towards the end of the second half the players were beginning to struggle, as they’d put so much in and I think they had rose to what was the best atmosphere from the Albion in a long time.
As good as the first 11 were, two of the subs were awful. Harper doesnt care and doesn’t want to get injured prior to his big move and for anyone still asking why Leko doesn’t get a chance, that’s why.
I can only assume field and Edwards are injured as when we needed legs and effort they surely would have given more.
It’s devastating we couldn’t get the second we deserved in normal time, prior to the red
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Unforgivable from Brunt. Honestly it's time to move on from him anyway but to do that today is so so irresponsible and should be the final nail for him.
Much bigger problems would still be there even if we had come through tonight, but the game was there for the taking and he basically ruined any chance of winning pre-pens (and probably would have improved our odds for pens too).
Not at all - had to mop up a rare Hegazi brain fart and paid the price.
I thought both were really good tonight, Hegazi's anticipation and reading of the game is excellent. Really proud of them tonight and we need to remember that we won against the vile...
In reality though, when you think about it, are we really in a position to go up? I don't think so.
Jenkins and Co can own this failure. If Mr Lai is as ruthless as other Chinese business owners, there will be a p45 waiting for them soon. We can only hope.
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Gutted we have lost. Brunt obviously at fault but, on his defence, he's forced into a rash challenge by Hegazi giving the ball away on the edge of the box. We would have won that game tonight with Gayle on there.
Even with a rookie manager and a feather light squad we nearly made it. The players gave it their all but our squad came up short. 4 defenders taking pens, not enough forwards, having to bring on Morisson to do nothing. I fear for next season. Sign gayle, get a new manager and start the rebuild.
Why oh why do we allow teams tlo come that close to our area?
The past three seasons should have shown us to play higher up the pitch and defend by the centre circle.
Bad management and coaching !
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Absolutely gutted.
Huge credit to all the fans today. Haven’t seen an atmosphere like that for years.
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Can all the negativity and moaning go on a separate thread please, maybe a post season thread, this after match debate deserves a little bit of pride in a brave performance from the team, and magnificent support from the fans. Felt we gave an average Villa team a little more respect than they deserved too.
So true, sick of the negativity and finger pointing. We gave it all and I’d like to focus on that not a scapegoat!
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Why oh why do we allow teams tlo come that close to our area?
The past three seasons should have shown us to play higher up the pitch and defend by the centre circle.
Bad management and coaching !
With who DB? Once Phillips and Rodriguez were taken off injured/tired, and we withdrew Murphy, there were no targets up front to hold and press. Tosin came on and played in front of the back 4, and we went to park the bus defending to get to penalties. Flet sorry for Leko as he was given an impossible task.
Just explain to me how we can do with what you are suggesting with what we had on the pitch.?
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Proud of the lads tonight, regained some credibility after the weekend.
Not going to slate Brunt as Hegazi sold him out tonight but stupid freekicks conceded in dangerous places is the main reason I do not want him in the centre of that pitch, tonight he was reckless and a bit too fired up from the start, you want experienced players to be calm.
To loose Robson-Kanu at Derby, Gayle at the weekend and the Rodriguez tonight leaving us with Leko shows the lack of depth in this squad, thats on Jenkins, Dowling and Lai.
The fact that we have had Shan in charge in an important period of the season is again on the 3 of them, nothing against Shan, he's done a good job but should never have been in the job.
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Watch both Brunt yellow card back on TV, both ludicrous challenges. It wasn’t a case of hanging a leg out. He threw himself into the Villa player, both as clear cut yellows as you will find. The first one was particularly stupid. The Villa player was on the half way line, no need whatsoever to fly into him. The second one was a desperate lunge. Exactly the sort of challenge that no player on a yellow can afford to make. Only has himself to blame. One of his better games as well, although his shooting is still awful. Three efforts off target.
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Back in the car. Gutted but proud of all the lads. Brunt was sold out by Morrison and Hegazi and had to challenge McGinn. The ultra negative approach from our trio of coaches and the substitutions cost us any chance of winning outside of a penalty shoot out, while we are rightly proud of their resilience there is more than one way to skin a cat. You could argue we ended the game with 5 centre halves on a pitch of 9 outfield players, imagine if Pulis had done this.
Shout out for Johnstone who was imperious during the match.
Used up all his penalty luck in the first 8 games. Didn't look like saving any of the half dozen taken in this tie.
The weakness of our attacking and midfield options from the squad players beggars belief and Dowling and Jenkins should be first out the door.
Is Shan unlucky or is he a bad manager? Tosin on the bench Saturday and Field tonight makes all the difference after the red cards.
We would have had nothing left for Wembley anyway imo. Feel for you lads who see these as your biggest rivals.
Onto next season. Hopefully the big decisions needed in the summer come off.
Interesting post and I agree with most of it.
Don't think Brunt was sold out by Mozza, but Hegazi did sell him a kipper tonight - albeit can't blame Hegazi cause he was class otherwise and is a premier league player.
Don't think Shan is unlucky in the sense we've looked very much like we would get a red card throughout the tie.
The bit I massively agree with is we've ended up with over half defenders as outfield players on the pitch and I didn't think we'd win the shootout at any point. Until heart ruled the head and Abraham's pen looked like it might be saved.
Fairs to the fans and like you say we need a massive overhaul. The optimist in me says we have some decent young players, the opportunity to get rid of older (and now ineffectual) players but the pessimist/realist in me says we're not going to do that and try and get by with what we've got.
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With who DB? Once Phillips and Rodriguez were taken off injured/tired, and we withdrew Murphy, there were no targets up front to hold and press. Tosin came on and played in front of the back 4, and we went to park the bus defending to get to penalties. Flet sorry for Leko as he was given an impossible task.
Just explain to me how we can do with what you are suggesting with what we had on the pitch.?
As you say, but way before that (I am on about the past 3 seasons) we just kept retreating and giving away the ground to those who want to win games.
We can only score if we are in their half, and more than likely stop them scoring too.
Stop being the "cowardly lion" side and go for the jugular.
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Well we ain't going to Wembley and I'm a bit relieved because who every we had to play would have hammered us we really are a one man team ablit a two man team when Barnes was here.
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Utterly dejected. I suppose on the positive note it gives us a good chance to build a squad for next season and stats wise a lot of clubs who lose in the play-offs are usually up there the next season. Here's hoping. I just hope Villa lose and Norwich get fudged all season, bit like Fulham.
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Just back from the Irish pub in Hamburg watching it with one other person- just happened to be a Villa fan ::) We hardly spoke to one another.
I think it was Gayle's sending off, Brunt's sending off with HRK's unavailabilty which ultimately cost us.
The team showed terrific character, especially the experienced players. I don't blame Brunt. He gave his all and mistimed his tackle. We were down to the bare bones at the end and I saw a stat 89/11% possession for Villa. It was embarassing parking the bus, but our squad was that depleted, whilst Villa were jammy enough to have a fully fit squad at their disposal. Villa were definitely looking for fouls and freekicks from the start.
Taking off J-Rod with penalties looming was probably the wrong move, especially as Shan didn't look like we were trying to win the game in extra time. Was a bit disappointed Johnston didn't stop any. He should have known a bit about the Villa players.
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Brunt cost us big time tonight, we had them on the ropes 11 v 11. For a player of his expereince that should be the last we see of him tonight.
brunt was put in a position that he had to make the foul to stop mcginn shooting, hegazi caused that second yellow. Shame because every single one of them worked their balls off tonight
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Proud to be a baggie tonight after that, but feel let down by the penalty misses.
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Can all the negativity and moaning go on a separate thread please, maybe a post season thread, this after match debate deserves a little bit of pride in a brave performance from the team, and magnificent support from the fans. Felt we gave an average Villa team a little more respect than they deserved too.
Agree with this . I think some people are reflecting on the whole season here,rather than tonights match.They gave everything tonight and just came up short. Morrison who did nothing after coming on as sub, should have taken the first penalty, and given us the chance to put pressure on their first taker.
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Just back from the Irish pub in Hamburg watching it with one other person- just happened to be a Villa fan ::) We hardly spoke to one another.
I think it was Gayle's sending off, Brunt's sending off with HRK's unavailabilty which ultimately cost us.
The team showed terrific character, especially the experienced players. I don't blame Brunt. He gave his all and mistimed his tackle. We were down to the bare bones at the end and I saw a stat 89/11% possession for Villa. It was embarassing parking the bus, but our squad was that depleted, whilst Villa were jammy enough to have a fully fit squad at their disposal. Villa were definitely looking for fouls and freekicks from the start.
Taking off J-Rod with penalties looming was probably the wrong move, especially as Shan didn't look like we were trying to win the game in extra time. Was a bit disappointed Johnston didn't stop any. He should have known a bit about the Villa players.
2 strikers (which is basically all we have) and a very old and cream crackered midfielder.
Says it all really. Mr Jenkins must be feeling very proud and boastful now.
I can see him strutting around with his belly stuck out.
Edit was a spelling mistake.
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Utterly dejected. I suppose on the positive note it gives us a good chance to build a squad for next season and stats wise a lot of clubs who lose in the play-offs are usually up there the next season. Here's hoping. I just hope Villa lose and Norwich get fudged all season, bit like Fulham.
well Jenkins and Co will have a good try to bugger that stat up.
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Heartbreaking
I am so proud of all of them tonight - that was a bloody fantastic effort and one which made me feel quite proud as I walked out the ground.
I really don’t know what to say to be honest
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well Jenkins and Co will have a good try to bugger that stat up.
They don't have to try. They just don't have a clue! Should not be any where near a management position.
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Gutted about the result but very proud of the team and fans tonight.
No away goals rule unfortunately, spurs get to a champs league final having not won the qf or sf but the efl deem the rule unnecessary.
In both games imo Brunt did nothing, I said he should have gone off after he got a yellow as he has never been able to tackle and it is time to say goodbye to a great servant and it is only a shame that morrison can't go too.
We need a complete rebuild and I hope we can get Hughton who took bha from relegation candidates to play off and then finally up in 2 seasons.
Next appointment is massive and I prey we make the right decision.
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Not got home yet,just stopped off for some food but I must say that I agree with everything that Atomic said,nighty night fellow baggies.
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superb performance tonight, players left everything on the pitch , at least we won the game, I point the finger at Shan and his aides, again very poor game management, two midfield players both on yellow cards and knackered , what did they think would happen if he left them on the pitch did he not learn from the Gayle situation on Saturday, Brunts sending off was a nailed on certainty once he had left him on the pitch. what instructions was he giving Leko we needed a player to stay up front in xtra time especially when they were getting a number of corners etc , but what happened everybody went back inviting them to push everyone forward, and there was no outlet ball. and whoever worked out the penalty shootout by sending young Holgate up first, yes we were short of takers once we lost brunt and J Rod being taken off , but surely the senior pros should have stepped up first , as the last 3 penalties showed.
one thing is for certain a new manager will need a clear out and new blood must come in for next season we are a mile off being ready for the premier league, I just hope we do not have to wait to long
before we return
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I can't ever remember a time when I've been more proud of our team. My god. Everything went against us over the two legs and to force extra time given everything that happened to us was a near miracle, an unbelievably gutsy effort.
Villa weren't going to score tonight whatever happened, we were a brick wall of a team foe once.
To get as far as we did and lose on penalties is just damn cruel. As always happens though in a huge match between us and the scum they always win through one way or another.
Just think, if the ref had done his job properly in the first leg and given us a penalty for Abraham's barge on Holgate we'd almost certainly have won the tie.
I hope whoever they get at Wembley turns them over.
We couldn't even get a break on which end the pens were taken.
The officiating and cheating from the S cum just reminded me of raging bull when la motta is forced to lose but he says to Robinson, you never got me down Ray, you never got me down, as he held on to the ropes, bloodied and battered.
You may have cheated your way to the final, but they didn't batter us like they boasted they would do with their 10 wins in a row c rap.
Please God let Leeds win their next two games.
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superb performance tonight, players left everything on the pitch , at least we won the game, I point the finger at Shan and his aides, again very poor game management, two midfield players both on yellow cards and knackered , what did they think would happen if he left them on the pitch did he not learn from the Gayle situation on Saturday, Brunts sending off was a nailed on certainty once he had left him on the pitch. what instructions was he giving Leko we needed a player to stay up front in xtra time especially when they were getting a number of corners etc , but what happened everybody went back inviting them to push everyone forward, and there was no outlet ball. and whoever worked out the penalty shootout by sending young Holgate up first, yes we were short of takers once we lost brunt and J Rod being taken off , but surely the senior pros should have stepped up first , as the last 3 penalties showed.
one thing is for certain a new manager will need a clear out and new blood must come in for next season we are a mile off being ready for the premier league, I just hope we do not have to wait to long
before we return
We were so short of first team regulars that we didn't have the luxury of taking off anyone who wasn't shattered. Wondering if JRod fell into that category, as it would have been strange taking him off with the real possibility of pens. Leko and Harper made very little contribution.
But, in the end we were only one last shot away from a Play-Off Final appearance
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The tie was lost in the first leg. The sending off to Gayle hurt us. Brunt going today didn't help. Gayle on pitch today we would have won in 90 minutes.
Can't fault the players to a man they ran through walls for the cause. I am proud of them. On that showing I can't see villa winning in a final. We as good as gifted them it over 2 legs
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The tie was lost in the first leg. The sending off to Gayle hurt us. Brunt going today didn't help. Gayle on pitch today we would have won in 90 minutes.
Can't fault the players to a man they ran through walls for the cause. I am proud of them. On that showing I can't see villa winning in a final. We as good as gifted them it over 2 legs
We didn't gift it to them the ref scott gifted it to them.
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Absolute sickener. Everything besides Brunt’s red card was perfect; the fans, the effort from the lads - spot on. Just a shame that Extra Time ended with the 10 men that were on the pitch, 6 of which were defenders. Not ideal for penalties - but not going to complain about that. Only thing I would have wished was that Mozza took the first pen, score your first one to ease the pressure a bit. Was very surprised to see Holgate take the first pen followed by Hegazi (I think).
It was a great great effort from everyone at the club today and despite the refs decisions and two red cards and the tactics/subs of Shan that we will never agree on collectively, we can hold our heads high and Villa know that they were very very lucky to be going through.
Hopefully this works in our favor and we can get to some much needed rebuilding, beginning with a new manager and a Rondon deal involving Gayle.
We’ve needed a clear out for the past 2-3 seasons, perhaps more. Let’s get some new blood in the squad and look to give it a real go next season.
Proud of the lads, given our half a dozen decent/good performances this season, all I was hoping for going into this game was a 100% effort from the players and the atmosphere to match, and it did. Can’t ask for much more than that.
Proud baggie.
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Fans blaming Brunt need to give their head a wobble I'm sorry but if Hegazi just got rid and didn't put him in a awkward situation he wouldn't of had to commit that challenge. The person who needs to take the blame for this season is that dwarf Jenkins.
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Fans blaming Brunt need to give their head a wobble I'm sorry but if Hegazi just got rid and didn't put him in a awkward situation he wouldn't of had to commit that challenge. The person who needs to take the blame for this season is that dwarf Jenkins.
Don’t agree but what about his first yellow for going straight threw McGinn on the half-way line? Has he not done that it wouldn’t have been such a problem. That’s what put him on a tight rope.
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Well its the morning after the night before.
So proud of the players and fans last night, been a while since we had an atmosphere like that.
Brunty didn't cost us a place at Wembly, two poor transfer windows cost us that.
Not bringing in another striker and some legs in the middle of the park cost us last night and most of the season.
Brunty's challenge was rash, especially being on a yellow but you watch the replay and the reaction of the scum players. Straight in the refs face, led by pikey Jack.
I wouldn't blame any of the players last night we got behind them and they delivered.
We played 40 minutes last night with 10 men against the might of scum village.
I'm not dissapointed at all, but I will be if we don't appoint a proper manager and give him the tools to do a proper job.
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This has hit me hard...I’m receiving messages from ‘friends’ who haven’t spoken to me in months, this is why I hate Villa fans!!
So proud of the team last night, it deserved more.
Interested in what happens next at this club, but a rebuild is required from top to bottom
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Well its the morning after the night before.
So proud of the players and fans last night, been a while since we had an atmosphere like that.
Brunty didn't cost us a place at Wembly, two poor transfer windows cost us that.
Not bringing in another striker and some legs in the middle of the park cost us last night and most of the season.
Brunty's challenge was rash, especially being on a yellow but you watch the replay and the reaction of the scum players. Straight in the refs face, led by pikey Jack.
I wouldn't blame any of the players last night we got behind them and they delivered.
We played 40 minutes last night with 10 men against the might of scum village.
I'm not dissapointed at all, but I will be if we don't appoint a proper manager and give him the tools to do a proper job.
They really are masters at it - horrible set of players in the mirror of their manager.
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I still can't believe that we didn't put Montero on last night. He is a potential match winner and yet we put Leko on and he's done nothing for two seasons.
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They really are masters at it - horrible set of players in the mirror of their manager.
If the Villa fans are proud of the way their players acted over the two legs, then they deserve them. They were absolutely pathetic - falling all over the place, faking injuries, in the ref's face. Disgraceful team.
On a side note, was anyone else surprised how poor the Villa fans were? Barely heard a peep from them all game.
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It's going to be hard to get over this I hate the Vile so much just hope they get f**ked in the final.
Can't fault the fans and the players effort last night it just wasn't meant to be for us we need to rebuild now.
One small crumb of comfort is I don't think Kyle Bartley is the worst ever player to put on an Albion shirt like some people have been making out thought he's had two very good games in what has been the pressure cooker of the play offs.
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Why oh why do we allow teams tlo come that close to our area?
Because our midfield is slow so retreats to our back line early leaving no-one to dispute the middle of the pitch (as below)?
As you say, but way before that (I am on about the past 3 seasons) we just kept retreating and giving away the ground to those who want to win games.
We can only score if we are in their half, and more than likely stop them scoring too.
Stop being the "cowardly lion" side and go for the jugular.
Also usual cowardly delay of substitutions until they have no chance of making a difference. No worth in making a substitution as late as time wasting time. Need a manager who believes in what he's doing and is not cowed by senior players.
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Disappointed losing to the scum. No sorry they didn't beat us ! But not disappointed about not going up. Were not ready. Every player on that field gave their all last night and I am so proud of them and all our fans. The atmosphere was on a par with 1993 Swansea the only difference then we wasn't playing against the referee and a load of cheats. I will be cheering Leeds on down the pub when they play the vile in the final and I don't give a s**t if there are Vile fans in there neither. The vile are no good. If there players are any good why aren't they playing in the prem now !!!
Everybody keep the faith. We have now lost in 2 play offs in the championship ................ and the next season got promotion automatic on both occassions.
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how anyone on here can say villa deserved that over 2 legs is beyond me. do not understand that at all.
over the 2 legs it was very close which is why it went to penalties, but suspensions and poor management inevitably cost us unfortunately. with just one fit striker we had to set up the way we did last night and didnt have much going forward despite especially second half being the better team.
we didnt fail over the 2 legs though, we have been failing for 18 months with pathetic decisions at board room level. giving Pulis too much time, appointing a complete idiot (Pardew), and giving a huge job to a very inexperienced manager (Moore) and then not appointing a suitable replacement.
we have to learn from our mistakes sooner rather than later.
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The mighty Villa couldn’t score against us in 120 minutes last night (40 of those down to 10 men) and over the 2 games were in the lead for what 8 minutes? Had we had a full selection to choose from and had Gayle been available and not received a ridiculous sending off we’d have done them 3 or 4 last night. Fingers crossed there crying again at Wembley this year really is last chance saloon for them if they don’t go up McGinn & the rat are off and the’l be in some serious trouble over the financial fair play.
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Extremely proud of the team this morning.
All we ever ask for is for our players to put a shift in and look like they care, they did exactly that last night and some of them looked absolutely dead on their feet.
Thought Hegazi was outstanding, has had Abraham in his pocket over the 2 legs. Also thought Bartley had a good game and looks more solid than he did start of the season.
The biggest disappointment for me was Murphy, he looks shot of confidence, there was a moment in the game where he had a 50/50 with one of their lads in the middle of the park, his chance to smash someone and get the fans behind him and he bottled it.
I know its now pointless but also thought Tosin looked quite good in the defensive midfield role. Leko didn't really give us much of an outlet, would have been better to throw Montero on.
We wont see a few of those in a WBA shirt again, but you can't say they didn't give it their all.
Man for man though, well done to the lads, I came away from the ground with a sense of pride rather than disappointment. This summer is going to be huge for the club, we have a new manager to get in and a rebuild of the squad. Just hope we pull our finger out and get some of it done early.
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Have to be honest and say I felt immensely proud of the club as a whole last night.
This season has been an utter shambles that began with the appointment of Moore and ended in Jimmy Shan taking charge of a play semi final, and it could all have been so different had we made the right appointment to begin with, however, I will save all of that for an end of season review thread. Focusing solely on last night, the fans were absolutely amazing, the support throughout was beyond belief, even at times when I was flagging in the singing and gasping for water, I was spurred on by those around me and it was vociferous to the end. The seals, I felt, were embarrassing and I had forgotten that they were there until Abraham slotted home the final penalty.
Cruel really to lose in such a fashion. The big moments just did not go for us over the two legs, Brunt deserved to be sent off last night, but it all stemmed fro the only mistake Hegazi made all night (not counting the penalty) and so I find it hard to overly criticise either. It is such a shame that it was probably the last we will see of Ahmed who I feel has been superb for us since signing, an absolute mountain of a man.
11 v 11 I only saw one winner, but thereafter we had little or no hope, ending up with no penalty takers on the pitch. Tosin was superb when he came on and I would like to see us try and keep hold of him, Holgate and Gayle for next season. I was extremely disappointed with all of the front three who offered very little during the game and showed why the loss of Gayle was such a blow as Jay Rod just isn't in the same league I'm afraid.
Proud. It's all you can be of last night. We gave a good account of ourselves and were unlucky in the end, but we showed the nation how we can be as a football club and I imagine will have won a number of admirers in the process.
Also, keep the stadium announcer from last night. It's the first time I could hear what was being said over the tannoy.
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I can't fault the player's effort and application last night. I'd just like to know where that 'thou shalt not pass' mentality was for most of the season. Too many points dropped as too many games passed us by.
The support from the stands was superb in the most part last night, far more so than deserved by Jenkins and Lai. Lions led by absolute fkn donkeys, hang your heads in shame the pair of you. Clueless, passionless muppets. WE ARE ALBION, not you. What's more is that you never will be.
COYB and SOTV 8) .
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All that possession and you still could not best a depleted first team of 10 men for a chunk of the game.
See you next season in the Championship league.
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Through gritted teeth, congrats McSkittle. Presume you hammered us on expected goals. Shan managed a strategy for the games. Given our deficiencies in the back line all season we had to tighten up. Happy to play on break at Villa Park and keep it tight and then with Rodriguez our only forward, we had no real out ball.
Probably right about Abraham. He barely laid a hand on us (unlike with the ball when he was trying to score). Our back three who have been torn apsrt regularly were pretty comfortable over the 210 minutes, 50 down a man and with one key player missing for another 40 odd minutes.
Think it was tight. Villa probably had morr quality on the pitch but were cagey themselves. Struggled with clear chances, with a penalty from the wing and a worldy shot which we left too much space for. Other than that, Johnstone only had one in close save to make.
We were more physical alright. Ye were.looking to go down and get on side of referee, which cost ye with Mings tumbling down against Rodriguez. Ye also had some gamesmanship with carrying the ball anytime we had a free or throw to.prevent a quick attack. Gayle first speaking to for.taking time with a throw came after Mings bought the ball in field letting Villa defence recover and then when we.looked to.readjust we effectively got penalised.
Littls between sides over the games and Villa quality at having decent set of penalty takers at end saw ye sneak through an even tie in my opinion.
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I am utterly gutted at losing to the vile scum and to lose on penalties has made it ten times worse, but I aye come on here to moan about the players, the managers we have had, nor the board, not even the useless catering staff on the concourse of the East Stand. I aye even going to moan that there was no Bathams on sale last night.
I have come on here to say I was so proud of our fans last night, the atmosphere was brilliant, aye seen it like that for many a year.
ATID and as always SOTV
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Back 3 outstanding especially Hegazi and Dawson. Great header by Dawson for the goal.
I saw Shan having a chat to Harper and Leko before the penalties. I was thinking they were going to be in the line-up to take one. I would back at least Harper to take a decent penalty. With Shan having a word with them it wouldn't surprise me if they volunteered but weren't trusted - I'm speculating but it would fit our general club treatment of young players.
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Penalties are a lottery and they won last night that's all.
I couldn't believe that Villa couldn't break down us down for 40mins when down to 10 men and with a depleted team full of kids. It doesn't bode well for them. They remind me of a poor mans Arsenal - lots of possession, easy on the eye but with very little end product.
I think Villa fans might (again) find out they're not as good as they think they are sometime soon. This is a little secret which the rest of football knows of course!
A Wolves fan called me this morning to say he was gutted Villa won and that we looked far more dangerous and likely to score for most of the two games in spite of their possession - enough said!
Not popular Villa are they.........lacking in humility maybe - Lord knows why!!?
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Not that it matters but if Villa play like that in the final, then they will be with us in the championship next year.
Take Grealish out that team and they are bang average.
On the penalties, I knew Holgate would miss after watching Steer walk next to him in his ear all the way to the spot.
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A mix of emotions, the fans united for this game, did all they could, the players gave it everything and actually won the match.
However, as much as i appreciated the players effort (they really couldnt of done more in that sense) i am hopeful this is the last time we see a number of them.
Villa are a average side with a couple of standout players, they reflect their manager in how they act, he stood on the side gurning and whining looking like a wrong un, it started first leg and carried on last night, whenever you go near them they think they have a divine right to a free kick and even if they do or dont, they harrass the referee for more action (that said no complaints about the Brunt red card) Looking at social media this morning the vast majority of neutrals seem to of picked up on how Villa are and what a snidey niggly team they are.
However they are a better footballing side than us and with the exception of the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half, i felt they were the team over the 2 legs who had intent to win the game, my biggest gripe is still with 2nd half of the 1st leg when we could of got at them as they had run out of ideas but instead we played cowardly football.
Last night confirmed it was two teams who would get battered in the premier league as the quality is so poor, the difference being i think if Villa go up they will try and improve, i think had we gone up we would of tried to stick with what we had. However assuming Leeds get through and play anything like they can i dont think Villa will have to worry about the premier league next season.
A gallant effort from our lads in what hopefully is many farewell appearances.
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Stop replying to him. Villa bugger not welcome here win, lose or draw.
Away fans ok in a debate as long as they behave.
We do know this poster didn't log on after our win at Villa Park so that tells you a story.
As ever with away fans , gets out of order they'll be gone.
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Well its the morning after the night before.
So proud of the players and fans last night, been a while since we had an atmosphere like that.
Brunty didn't cost us a place at Wembly, two poor transfer windows cost us that.
Not bringing in another striker and some legs in the middle of the park cost us last night and most of the season.
Brunty's challenge was rash, especially being on a yellow but you watch the replay and the reaction of the scum players. Straight in the refs face, led by pikey Jack.
I wouldn't blame any of the players last night we got behind them and they delivered.
We played 40 minutes last night with 10 men against the might of scum village.
I'm not dissapointed at all, but I will be if we don't appoint a proper manager and give him the tools to do a proper job.
They did the same Saturday, plenty of teams do it, we stand there and look gormless most of the time and get nothing.
Brunt was reckless all night, he got away with another one when he stamped on McGinn, seeing it back afterwards he was very lucky. He should have been the one calming others down.
But as you say he's not to blame for us not getting there, thats down to 3 suits.
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I ain't fussed about not being in the greed league anyway, management and certain players massively underperforming all season. Brunt and Gayle cost us in these two games along with bizarre substitutions , discipline was shocking . We need a proper head coach. We will be in this league for many years to come. The old players need to go, still relying on Morrison and brunt ffs.
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I ain't fussed about not being in the greed league anyway, management and certain players massively underperforming all season. Brunt and Gayle cost us in these two games along with bizarre substitutions , discipline was shocking . We need a proper head coach. We will be in this league for many years to come. The old players need to go, still relying on Morrison and brunt ffs.
HRK also cost us with his stupid decision to get sent off against Derby.
Would have given us an outlet last night when replacing JayRod, as opposed to putting Leko up there to do nothing.
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Appleton comes in 3 red cards in 3 games, coincidence?
I was thinking about the Pen order, I would be surprised if we had not practised them since we had qualified but the first 5 would of also included: Jay Rod, Phillips, Brunt, HRK, Johannson not on the pitch. Hegazi and Holgate might of had the best record as in training as well, The save for Hegazi penalty was quality, Holgate was an easier pen to save if the keeper goes the right way but not a lot wrong with it.
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To add to the decisions that went against us in the firsts leg, we had one go against us last night when we should have been awarded a penalty for handball in the box by El Gahzi early in the first half. How the linesman missed it god only knows, as bad a decision as the one not given against Abraham in the first leg.
Before the match started we were missing our best striker but we also had our second best attacking player (Phillips) not firing on all cylinders due to his lack of match fitness and having to be subbed half way through the second half for the second match running because of this. Johansen also had to come off seemingly injured and then of course we went down to 10 men with the loss of Brunt.
I have no idea why Rodriguez was taken off (was he injured?) and as he was subbed my first thought was that he was our best penalty taker and that we would rue the decision.
Before the sending off I felt we were the most dangerous side coming forward and that it would be a matter of time before we got a second, which we almost did bar a goal-line clearance by Mings from Murphy's long range shot. Their players were beginning to make unenforced errors and the momentum was with us. The sending off and the substitutions of Phillips and Johansen altered the course of the game.
For almost 45 minutes we played with 10 men against a full strength Villa side with Livermore, Barry, Brunt, Gayle, Robson-Kanu, Phillips, Johansen and for extra time also Rodriguez missing and still managed to keep a clean sheet and win the match over 120+ minutes. In fact if the play-offs used the away goals rule we would have gone through!
How close we came despite everything that went against us is hard to take. The luck wasn't with us this time and often in these sort of ties luck can be the deciding factor but we'll have our day again soon enough.
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I said before the game that, whatever the result, we could leave nothing behind and boy did we not. Players and fans were amazing all night, fantastic support and atmosphere. My voice must still be echoing around the Hawthorns.
Walked out, head held high and proud to be a Baggie!
Come August I will be happy to look forward to another season in the Championship.
Hopefully with a new manager and philosophy we can make an even better fist of it than this year but for me, Moore's sacking aside, it has been a fantastic roller coaster of a season. Wouldn't swap it for a 17th place finish in the greed league that's for sure.
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To add to the decisions that went against us in the firsts leg, we had one go against us last night when we should have been awarded a penalty for handball in the box by El Gahzi early in the first half. How the linesman missed it god only knows, as bad a decision as the one not given against Abraham in the first leg.
Before the match started we were missing our best striker but we also had our second best attacking player (Phillips) not firing on all cylinders due to his lack of match fitness and having to be subbed half way through the second half for the second match running because of this. Johansen also had to come off seemingly injured and then of course we went down to 10 men with the loss of Brunt.
I have no idea why Rodriguez was taken off (was he injured?) and as he was subbed my first thought was that he was our best penalty taker and that we would rue the decision.
Before the sending off I felt we were the most dangerous side coming forward and that it would be a matter of time before we got a second, which we almost did bar a goal-line clearance by Mings from Murphy's long range shot. Their players were beginning to make unenforced errors and the momentum was with us. The sending off and the substitutions of Phillips and Johansen altered the course of the game.
For almost 45 minutes we played with 10 men against a full strength Villa side with Livermore, Barry, Brunt, Gayle, Robson-Kanu, Phillips, Johansen and for extra time also Rodriguez missing and still managed to keep a clean sheet and win the match over 120+ minutes. In fact if the play-offs used the away goals rule we would have gone through!
How close we came despite everything that went against us is hard to take. The luck wasn't with us this time and often in these sort of ties luck can be the deciding factor but we'll have our day again soon enough.
I think you're pretty much spot on with this post. I'd need to see the handball again, it was difficult to tell from where I was in the ground.
I think it's easy to under-estimate just how monumental that effort was last night when you list all the things that went against us.
It's going to be a big summer. Some people are writing the clubs obituaries but at Championship level Albion are an attractive club for players and with good recruitment there's no reason why we can't be looking at the play off's again next season. Huddersfield, Cardiff, Fulham coming down, Luton, Barnsley coming up, none of them should hold any fear for us, they are not huge clubs or huge attractions.
It's over to Jenkins and his mates now.
Just to answer your question Windmill, JRod was injured, could barely walk.
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Yeah, it was a clear handball that should have resulted in a pen for us.
Regarding J-Rod, he was absolutely dead on his feet. He made one lung busting run of about 40 yards to chase a ball down and then went down on his hunches. It was then that Shan subbed him, we'd have been playing with 9 men otherwise.
J-Rod looked totally gone and you could see in his face he knew he'd run his race.
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I think you're pretty much spot on with this post. I'd need to see the handball again, it was difficult to tell from where I was in the ground.
I think it's easy to under-estimate just how monumental that effort was last night when you list all the things that went against us.
It's going to be a big summer. Some people are writing the clubs obituaries but at Championship level Albion are an attractive club for players and with good recruitment there's no reason why we can't be looking at the play off's again next season. Huddersfield, Cardiff, Fulham coming down, Luton, Barnsley coming up, none of them should hold any fear for us, they are not huge clubs or huge attractions.
It's over to Jenkins and his mates now.
Just to answer your question Windmill, JRod was injured, could barely walk.
The investment that was made by JP in the training facilities will really add a lot of weight to our recruitment at this level for the new season and hopefully the promising youngsters still here will look at those who have succeeded at this level via other clubs will step up for us to.
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Tough one to take last night. On one hand I am immensely proud of the performance put in by the players on the pitch, put themselves on the line and defended with honour. On the other hand it highlighted all of the issues that we have had this year, from not appointing a new manager to clearly not bolstering the forward line. At the end of the last season it was clear that we didn't have enough forward options and we didn't do anything to increase these numbers. Villa were poor overall and made several errors that we just didn't capitalise on and I am sure if we had Barnes running at them it would have been a very different game. In saying that, I think if we had Barnes still we would have come a lot closer to finishing 1st/2nd, Murphy was just not an adequate replacement
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Also, the Hawthorns was absolutely rocking last night. I wasn't able to make the game but managed to watch it on the box and the whole ground was behind the team. Wolves as much as I hate to admit it do a lot to get the custard bowl fired up with all their pyrotechnics etc. makes a difficult atmosphere for teams to come to. Would love the Albion to do more to fire up the crowd at the start of games
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Watching last night did make me wonder how many more games we would have won this year if we pressed in a similar fashion instead of sitting back, especially at home.
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I was massively proud of the performance and sheer effort given by all last night. Special praise imo is due to Bartley and also Johnstone for that stunning save. There were plenty of other outstanding displays but I highlight these 2 as they are much maligned by many people. After the substitutions (all were necessary to be fair) and the sending off of CB I was very worried that if we held out for penalties we had no experienced takers and so it proved. That said I have no idea why Morrison did not take the first one. The Hawthorns was a great place to be last night and I shall remember the atmosphere for a very long time.
We won the match, lets not forget that.... COYB
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If nothing else, last night has brought the fans back together which we have needed for a while.
As a club, we now need to get in a manager/head coach early and allow him time to assess the job at hand.
With the rebuild we will need our expectations need to be reasonable for the new season.
In regards to last night, i'm disapointed but over it. I've spoke to a few Villa fans and they have all commented on how lucky they have been. I just hope that whoever they play in the final gives them a good kicking ;D
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Just popped on their forum to see how deluded their fans were and I wasn't disappointed neither! :o :o
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59773.360
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It was nice that for 120 minutes the club was all together. It’s been a while
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They don't have to try. They just don't have a clue! Should not be any where near a management position.
Jenkins is there because Lai didn't realise the only reason JP had him there was as a useful idiot to allow him to shaft the club in order to enrich himself. If only greedy Peace had sold to Fosun..........
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The tie turned when Gayle messed about with a throw in at Villa park and got booked, up to that point we were in control, that time wasting wound up the crowd and the Vile got motivation, Gayle got a second yellow and got sent off, everything swung in that moment and it was unnecessary.
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The tie turned when Gayle messed about with a throw in at Villa park and got booked, up to that point we were in control, that time wasting wound up the crowd and the Vile got motivation, Gayle got a second yellow and got sent off, everything swung in that moment and it was unnecessary.
He wasn't messing about, he was a specialist throw in taker playing in a central position. Dreadful to book him.
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He wasn't messing about, he was a specialist throw in taker playing in a central position. Dreadful to book him.
He was time wasting, he had already been warned, it was stupid, it changed the game, its a game of football, get and play it, time wasting that early in the tie was ridiculous.
Time wasting is only arguably justifiable with a few minutes to go, otherwise, its cheating.
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He was time wasting, he had already been warned, it was stupid, it changed the game, its a game of football, get and play it, time wasting that early in the tie was ridiculous.
Time wasting is only arguably justifiable with a few minutes to go, otherwise, its cheating.
How is taking a throw in time wasting?
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I can't fault the player's effort and application last night. I'd just like to know where that 'thou shalt not pass' mentality was for most of the season. Too many points dropped as too many games passed us by.
The support from the stands was superb in the most part last night, far more so than deserved by Jenkins and Lai. Lions led by absolute fkn donkeys, hang your heads in shame the pair of you. Clueless, passionless muppets. WE ARE ALBION, not you. What's more is that you never will be.
COYB and SOTV 8) .
Couldn't agree more on all your points but especially the last 2 sentences.
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How is taking a throw in time wasting?
He was plodding over to retrieve the ball. The ref told him once to hurry up and move quicker but he ignored it. Then did it again moments later and acted surprised when the ref booked him. It's no different to when subs go off and they plod. But the issue is we've time wasted a lot this season, not just Saturday. Johnstone has been booked six times for it.
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He was plodding over to retrieve the ball. The ref told him once to hurry up and move quicker but he ignored it. Then did it again moments later and acted surprised when the ref booked him. It's no different to when subs go off and they plod. But the issue is we've time wasted a lot this season, not just Saturday. Johnstone has been booked six times for it.
And again...
Why should any player hurry up to take a throw in, show me the law that says he has to?
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Why should any player hurry up to take a throw in, show me the law that says he has to?
Actually an interesting point Jacko makes there, is there an actual rule/law about time wasting itself?
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Actually an interesting point Jacko makes there, is there an actual rule/law about time wasting itself?
A Rory Delap throw in during the Pulis years took anywhere from 45 to 120 seconds, and they had several each match. To my knowledge Delap was never booked for time wasting.
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Apparently it took DG 26 seconds to take that throw in, hardly time wasting.
Rolling around is OK and just getting up when you realise a yellow isn't coming out.
Ref should just add the time on at half time and full time, which he did excessively with 5m in the first and 7m in the second half.
The shocking thing to me was that holgate had an equally effective throw in on the evidence of Tuesday night, so surely he should have been taking them and DG should have been in the box feeding off the flick ons.
Over the two everything that could have gone wrong for us did, including losing the toss for pens.
The scum had everything go in their favour going back to hourihane getting no retrospective action for his punch in the Leeds game.
No injuries to the likes of injury prone mings, nothing at all.
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If nothing else, last night has brought the fans back together which we have needed for a while.
As a club, we now need to get in a manager/head coach early and allow him time to assess the job at hand.
With the rebuild we will need our expectations need to be reasonable for the new season.
In regards to last night, i'm disapointed but over it. I've spoke to a few Villa fans and they have all commented on how lucky they have been. I just hope that whoever they play in the final gives them a good kicking ;D
Agree with this. Wasn't at the ground Tuesday but the atmosphere looked and sounded unreal.
Our opportunity to win was in that 25 minute spell at the start of the second half, including the stray goal kick and the header over by Phillips to name a couple. The Villa players seemed rattled during that period, just a shame we couldn't get that second goal as just couldn't see us conceding on the night, the defence was impeccable.
But as you say Dangerman, although it wasn't the result we all wanted, hope people left the ground proud and we can now move on and build something longer lasting with the youth.
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Sitting here thinking about the two games I still cannot for the life of me understand why Gayle was booked for not sprinting to take a throw in, I would love to know how many players have been booked for this offence in all four leagues.
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Sitting here thinking about the two games I still cannot for the life of me understand why Gayle was booked for not sprinting to take a throw in, I would love to know how many players have been booked for this offence in all four leagues.
It would be interesting to hear the view of Mr Scott on this one - I would love to know what he said in his report.
Like many others, I am not aware of any rule governing this, but you do see goalkeepers booked for timewasting. I can only assume that this is covered in the rules.
Its like a substitution really, a player on the far side of the pitch gets the hook on 89 minutes and walks back to the bench. He may get the occasional hurry up from both the official and the opposition, but there is no rule saying you have to get off the pitch within a certain timescale is there?
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And again...
Why should any player hurry up to take a throw in, show me the law that says he has to?
I don't have to show you a rule. It's basic knowledge that footballers waste time when they're winning and in every game the ref will tell players to hurry up. The difference is most other teams only waste time towards stoppage time when they're winning. Yet we've been doing it in the first half of matches this season.
And again... Gayle was already warned just prior to being booked but he chose to ignore that warning. He wasn't booked first time, he was warned first.
The ref is entitled to show a yellow card to players he feels are wasting time. Whether or not it's pedantic on the ref's part doesn't matter. It's not clever from Gayle or WBA management to test a ref who clearly leans more towards the home team.
And while we're on the subject, Johnstone is going to cost us next season if he doesn't start getting rid of the ball sooner. He frequently holds the ball for 15-18 seconds when the rule is 10.
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I don't have to show you a rule. It's basic knowledge that footballers waste time when they're winning and in every game the ref will tell players to hurry up. The difference is most other teams only waste time towards stoppage time when they're winning. Yet we've been doing it in the first half of matches this season.
And again... Gayle was already warned just prior to being booked but he chose to ignore that warning. He wasn't booked first time, he was warned first.
The ref is entitled to show a yellow card to players he feels are wasting time. Whether or not it's pedantic on the ref's part doesn't matter. It's not clever from Gayle or WBA management to test a ref who clearly leans more towards the home team.
And while we're on the subject, Johnstone is going to cost us next season if he doesn't start getting rid of the ball sooner. He frequently holds the ball for 15-18 seconds when the rule is 10.
And then he kicks it out of play 9 times out of 10!
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I don't have to show you a rule. It's basic knowledge that footballers waste time when they're winning and in every game the ref will tell players to hurry up. The difference is most other teams only waste time towards stoppage time when they're winning. Yet we've been doing it in the first half of matches this season.
And again... Gayle was already warned just prior to being booked but he chose to ignore that warning. He wasn't booked first time, he was warned first.
The ref is entitled to show a yellow card to players he feels are wasting time. Whether or not it's pedantic on the ref's part doesn't matter. It's not clever from Gayle or WBA management to test a ref who clearly leans more towards the home team.
And while we're on the subject, Johnstone is going to cost us next season if he doesn't start getting rid of the ball sooner. He frequently holds the ball for 15-18 seconds when the rule is 10.
Johnstone I can agree with Gayle no. All he does is walk towards the direction of where the ball is. He doesn't mess about with the ball when he has it, he doesn't pretend to tie his bootlaces or anything like that he just walks towards the ball. That isn't time wasting there is no time limit in which he is supposed to reach the ball.
The referee is wrong, I don't see how you don't see that.
You've hit the nail on the head with your comment It's not clever from Gayle or WBA management to test a ref who clearly leans more towards the home team.
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That is not within the referee's remit, he is supposed to apply the laws of the game impartially.
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The time wasting against Rotherham by Johnstone annoyed me. They were facing relegation and we weren't desperate for the points, there was no need for it.
Gayle wasn't time wasting, he just wasn't rushing, there's a difference. He doesn't have to run over to take throw ins. Even more annoying that we were trying to take a quick throw in and the Villa player ran off with the ball to prevent that. So when the quick throw in wasn't on, Gayle decided to take it. He's about to launch the ball with all his strength, no point him running over to take it and then take a breather before throwing it. Referee got it wrong and had reacted to the crowd\bench\players getting annoyed.
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If only they played to 80% of that intensity in the 46 league games we would’ve been top 2 easy, regarding the play offs the ridiculous defensive strategy which saw us 5/6 times not actively trying to counter attack in 3 on 3 or 3 on 2 situations has done us. Sounds harsh but one top drawer performance does not cut it.
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Ok, we're all entitled to our opinion, however, turn it around. We're trailing and their striker "doesn't rush" to retrieve the ball. Do you, in a high stake derby match just sit and wait or do you shout for him to hurry up?
Yes, refs should be impartial, but how often do they lean towards the home team? They're not called 'homers' for nothing. It happens. Is it right, not at all. But the players, who are experienced professionals need to take some responsibility. Liverpool blame the ref (and everything else) when things go against them. I don't want to be like them.
And It's not a problem we had in just this one game is it? HRK with a rush of blood and saw red. Then Brunt goes diving in twice and sees red. He also could have been sent off for the "stamp", some refs would have sent him off. The players gave the ref the choice to make.
Gayles first yellow proved to be costly. Yes, it's debatable, perhaps very unfair. But how many other single events have proved costly this season? Here's a few:
- Johnstone/Barry passing vs Middlesbrough which led to a goal
- Brunt miskicking vs Middlesbrough which led to a goal
- Losing the ball from kick off against Leeds which led to a goal
- Gibbs going to ground against Grealish which led to a goal
My point is these are some of the errors that were in our control, and giving control to the ref after a warning is an error on Gayles part.
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it's a yellow card offence in football to "excessively delay restarting play", there is no designated time given though so it is up to the ref to decide what is "excessive", is 26 seconds to take a throw in excessive when 30 seconds is allowed for subs and goal celebrations?
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it's a yellow card offence in football to "excessively delay restarting play", the is no designated time given though so it is up to the ref to decide what is "excessive", is 26 seconds to take a throw in excessive when 30 seconds is allowed for subs and goal celebrations?
Consistently walking towards the ball is not excessively delaying the re-start. I don't care how anybody words it the booking was wrong and the referee was wrong.
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Consistently walking towards the ball is not excessively delaying the re-start. I don't care how anybody words it the booking was wrong and the referee was wrong.
I think a lot are forgetting he added 12 minutes of added time in total and 7 in the second half aline when Dawson injury was in first half.
So he added extra, extra time and penalised us. Why these scum after get centre of attention to increase their profile is beyond me.
No way should DG have been sent off, he had his watch on and evidently he stopped it for 7, that's seven minutes in the second half.
I wish I just could let this defeat go, but I hate the vile cheating scum.
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Apparently it took DG 26 seconds to take that throw in, hardly time wasting.
Rolling around is OK and just getting up when you realise a yellow isn't coming out.
Ref should just add the time on at half time and full time, which he did excessively with 5m in the first and 7m in the second half.
The shocking thing to me was that holgate had an equally effective throw in on the evidence of Tuesday night, so surely he should have been taking them and DG should have been in the box feeding off the flick ons.
Over the two everything that could have gone wrong for us did, including losing the toss for pens.
The scum had everything go in their favour going back to hourihane getting no retrospective action for his punch in the Leeds game.
No injuries to the likes of injury prone mings, nothing at all.
And that, in a nutshell, is why I wanted to avoid them in the play-offs. If there is going to be a controversial incident, we tend to be the club that suffers. If there is something important at stake, we come way with a bloodied nose. If it’s only local pride or unimportant points at stake, things go our way. It’s uncanny.
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And that, in a nutshell, is why I wanted to avoid them in the play-offs. If there is going to be a controversial incident, we tend to be the club that suffers. If there is something important at stake, we come way with a bloodied nose. If it’s only local pride or unimportant points at stake, things go our way. It’s uncanny.
I said all the way through and people can check my posts, if it's a huge match between us and them they ALWAYS get the breaks. Yeah we got the hand of Rod, one game amongst a 46 game season, big deal in the grand scheme of things but when it REALLY matters, I knew what was going to happen, the same thing that has for decades.
Co-incidence? Paranoia? Who knows but yet again it happened.
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Consistently walking towards the ball is not excessively delaying the re-start. I don't care how anybody words it the booking was wrong and the referee was wrong.
couldn't agree more.
With a rule stating "excessively delaying restarting play" then surely there should be a time frame given i.e. 10 secs, 30 seconds whatever. Under the current ruling it is up to the ref to decide and that's where the consistency falls down.
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couldn't agree more.
With a rule stating "excessively delaying restarting play" then surely there should be a time frame given i.e. 10 secs, 30 seconds whatever. Under the current ruling it is up to the ref to decide and that's where the consistency falls down.
I have said for ages there should be clock that stops every time there is a break in play, that way we get the full 90 minutes and vitally take the power out of little want to make for name for themselves hitlers like Scott.
When I suggested this on another forum some said I would "never get home", well leave when you want if missing the traffic is your only goal, better that than an essential player being the victim of a complete so and so.
That and var.
They never made it as pro players and this is their last chance of being a non entity sad scumbag.
You how much we matter when they allowed a vile scumbag cheat us against Chelsea in andre marriner.
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It's taken me all this time to put something on here. I watched it in a pub here (Lytham St. Anne's) with my best mate a Leeds supporter.
I felt so proud of them all tonight in spite of everything and including Brunt who pretty much ended up cornered into that decision, and no derision towards Hegazi who was otherwise top notch.
The crowd were awesome you could even feel it on the TV. I don't make many matches at all as I'm in a band here, so often working, but on that note one guy who follows our band is a Wolves supporter. We call each other every name under the sun - but at the end of the night he ALWAYS tells me the Hawthorns is the best place to go, even better than - his words - the custard bowl.
I think the point I am making here is that the team gave their all on Tuesday but most significantly of all is that The Hawthorns was back to how it should be.
Come on you Baggies. And F off Dowling, Jenkins et al.
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It's taken me all this time to put something on here. I watched it in a pub here (Lytham St. Anne's) with my best mate a Leeds supporter.
I felt so proud of them all tonight in spite of everything and including Brunt who pretty much ended up cornered into that decision, and no derision towards Hegazi who was otherwise top notch.
The crowd were awesome you could even feel it on the TV. I don't make many matches at all as I'm in a band here, so often working, but on that note one guy who follows our band is a Wolves supporter. We call each other every name under the sun - but at the end of the night he ALWAYS tells me the Hawthorns is the best place to go, even better than - his words - the custard bowl.
I think the point I am making here is that the team gave their all on Tuesday but most significantly of all is that The Hawthorns was back to how it should be.
Come on you Baggies. And F off Dowling, Jenkins et al.
I hate to burst your bubble, but I can assure you that the atmosphere will return to normal. Important one off games come along only occasionally to most clubs, and they remain memorable usually because of the atmosphere generated. Just think back to ours. Swansea, Palace and Pompey are always mentioned, as they should be... but they are special because they are rare. I saw a short clip of the Brummie from Tuesday. It was how I wish it always was. Sadly, that’s not how it will be till the next do-or-die game. I hope to see it again soon, though.
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I agree with Costa Blanc Baggie, it'll be back to normal next season. Most team's supporters are similar, able to really ramp it up for the special occasion (one reason they are memorable) but lower key the rest of the time. Personally I enjoy a good moan- I've been going long enough and willbe there after the latest 'heroes' have gone. I don't believe the conspiracy theories - we did well over two games with tactics which stifled , through indicipline we ended up playing for penalties, we actually did win the toss for who took them first but, failed to deliver in what was our best opportunity. Anyway I've a free flag to wave now at least ::)
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Anyone wishing to discuss Charlton v Doncaster please use the LEAGUE ONE topic in General Sports forum, got nothing to do with us at all.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but I can assure you that the atmosphere will return to normal. Important one off games come along only occasionally to most clubs, and they remain memorable usually because of the atmosphere generated. Just think back to ours. Swansea, Palace and Pompey are always mentioned, as they should be... but they are special because they are rare. I saw a short clip of the Brummie from Tuesday. It was how I wish it always was. Sadly, that’s not how it will be till the next do-or-die game. I hope to see it again soon, though.
This is what is wrong with the Premier League, when you are just playing for survival the only chance of the "occasion" generating the atmosphere is a great escape scenario, which are SO few and far between.
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What is REALLY most likely to burst my bubble is what happens on the next manager scenario...
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Been over a week now since our season and, possibly, our immediate 'positive' future went up in flames yet still gutted we let them get through.
Add in another club I cannot stand (even without the FFP cheating) in Derby and I certainly won't be anywhere near a tv set next Monday when those two meet !
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Johnstone, Holgate, Hegazi, Dawson, Bartley, Gibbs, Johansen, Brunt, Phillips, Murphy, Rodriguez. Bench: Bond, Townsend, Adarabiyio, Morrison, Harper, Montero, Leko.
COYB
I wonder how many of that lot we'll see in an Albion shirt again ? :o
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I wonder how many of that lot we'll see in an Albion shirt again ? :o
Johnstone, Bartley, Brunt, Bond, Townsend, Leko. There you go!
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Been over a week now since our season and, possibly, our immediate 'positive' future went up in flames yet still gutted we let them get through.
Add in another club I cannot stand (even without the FFP cheating) in Derby and I certainly won't be anywhere near a tv set next Monday when those two meet !
Yes, it hurts and it is a pain that will take time to subside, probably the first home game of the season. Chin up! :D
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Yes, it hurts and it is a pain that will take time to subside, probably the first home game of the season. Chin up! :D
might be a tad easier on Monday if little aston are seen snivelling on the pitch at 5.00pm
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How i look forward to seeing Frank holding out his hand and pulling a snivelling Jack Grealish to his feet, and letting go half way through and a prostrate Jack looks up to see Lamps giving him the loser sign !
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I am still arguing with vile fans about the two play off games and pray that they get hammered on Monday.
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Think it's time posters started posting in the Anything Championship thread in General Football, we have got a long way from After Match Debate.
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Would very much like to see this entire section of the forum archived as quickly as possible so that I do not have the constant reminder of that evening :-X