[frazzle]

Since the subs we’ve lost two goals.

Nothing has changed apart from being even worse when we had 11 on the pitch for me.

New manager bounce already lost.

[Aztech]

I cant remember a more one sided embarrassing derby performance in my lifetime. Anyone who thinks this is okay needs to wobble their head.

Indeed, worst performance of the season by far.

We wouldn’t score if we played till next week.

[boinging_along]

We KNOW Grealish will throw himself to the ground under any contact at all so why push him in the box?  He'd have taken the same dive in the middle of the pitch.

[Baggie79]

We've stayed in the game.

Under Bilić a red card was terminal.

Seems pretty terminal to me?

[BaggieBoy04]

Ffs even the cheaper Traore scores and now Greasy has a Penalty FFS I'm behind but I'm guessing game over. Greasy probably dived though. Just heard it he gets leaned on clever my backside blatant cheat yes not enough to go down

[baggie82]

Definitive new manager drop experienced.

[TheBrom]

Since the subs we’ve lost two goals.

Nothing has changed apart from being even worse when we had 11 on the pitch for me.

New manager bounce already lost.

We never get a new manager bounce

[Aztech]

Ajayi has fallen apart last 2 minutes.

Christ.

You suggested that wouldn’t happen under this manager.

[frazzle]

Still think we have loads of positives to take from the game Jacko?

There’s isn’t a single positive. Not one.

[ttree30]

I’m not too worried about Allardyce - he’s a highly experienced professional.

My biggest worry is more fundamental - this is a terrible side well out of its depth. He’ll deserve the freedom of the borough if he manages to keep this lot up - in fact, 20 points looks a severe stretch right now.

Any manager can only work with the material available.

[gavinrussell]

If we think this is bad..wait until we play the Champions elect..

[TheBrom]

Indeed, worst performance of the season by far.

We wouldn’t score if we played till next week.

Or have a shot

[Fritzl Palace]

Wish I could find a woman to go down as well as Grealish.

[frazzle]

Maybe Sam is the positive.

[boinging_along]

Indeed, worst performance of the season by far.

We wouldn’t score if we played till next week.

Yup - even before the sending off it was absolutely awful.  Why would we set up to play the same way against Villa as we would against City?  It's clear Sam is going to just look for some clean sheets and defending for our lives. 

Against Liverpool we'll have to mind.  But if anyone though it was bad under Pulis, at least we weren't wasting talent like Diangana, Robinson, Periera and Krov.

[elmo_in_swansea]

I'm still hoping we can get to 12pts

[Groovephil]

I’m not too worried about Allardyce - he’s a highly experienced professional.

My biggest worry is more fundamental - this is a terrible side well out of its depth. He’ll deserve the freedom of the borough if he manages to keep this lot up - in fact, 20 points looks a severe stretch right now.

Any manager can only work with the material available.

I’m amazed he took the job on. It’s far too big for any manager unless they change the entire team in Jan. Which won’t happen here, I predict 2 loans.

[skyclad99]

The real concern for me is that we haven't even troubled their goalkeeper, not once.....

[Droitwich Baggie]

Wish I could find a woman to go down as well as Grealish.

Have you tried going around Witton?

[Fritzl Palace]

Big Sam will be knocking on 'Ken's' door in the morning asking for the cheque book to be opened.

[TheJacko2000]

Still think we have loads of positives to take from the game Jacko?

We tried to open up once we got to last 10 mins only a goal behind. Ajayi makes 2 mistakes and that's all she wrote.

Yes far better than trudging off with 5 off the goal difference and never being in the game.

The other positive I won't mention as I'm on best behaviour. 

[gazberg]

Hopefully don't see Sawyer's again anytime soon.

[Fritzl Palace]

Have you tried going around Witton?

I prefer them to have teeth

[east-stand-nick]

This could easily have been 5 or 6, with a goal chalked off for a toenail offside.

[hardtobeat]

We never get a new manager bounce

I suspect new manager bounce will be much harder for everybody with no crowd .