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Title: 16 Jan 2021 Wolves 2 Albion 3
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2021, 11:15:16 PM
Wolverhampton Wanderers v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 16th January 2021 12.30pm

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Title: In Game Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2021, 11:16:12 PM
Wolverhampton Wanderers v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 16th January 2021 12.30pm

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Title: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2021, 11:16:55 PM
Wolverhampton Wanderers v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 16th January 2021 12.30pm

Please use this board for all your Pre Match Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 02, 2021, 11:18:38 PM
Gallagher suspended for this so need 2 CM's in by then if we aint to get mullered.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mister AT on January 02, 2021, 11:59:08 PM
Get your last bit of 5-1 banter in with your wolves mates people, as this will be the game they give us a hiding.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 03, 2021, 12:04:37 AM
Get your last bit of 5-1 banter in with your wolves mates people, as this will be the game they give us a hiding.

I fear you are right.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Pelada on January 03, 2021, 01:16:27 AM
Been dreading this all season but even more so now.

The revenge for the 5-1 is coming.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Tony Goddens Gloves on January 07, 2021, 07:41:02 PM
I’m feeling ok about this game. It’s a free hit in a way as no one expects us to get a result but the dingles are dreading this match. I work with a couple and they are both saying you’ve got to win at some point and they think this could be the game we win !
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 09, 2021, 06:43:10 PM
In his 5 games so far, Allardyce has overseen 4 of our very worst performances of the season. I Struggle to have faith that he will turn things around for this one.

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 09, 2021, 06:49:44 PM
I’m feeling ok about this game. It’s a free hit in a way as no one expects us to get a result but the dingles are dreading this match. I work with a couple and they are both saying you’ve got to win at some point and they think this could be the game we win !

They're just being polite.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 09, 2021, 06:52:18 PM
They'll run us ragged.
Expecting a tonking.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 10, 2021, 05:36:04 PM
Imagine Traore running at Sawyers  :o
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 10, 2021, 05:46:46 PM
Imagine Traore running at Sawyers  :o

He won't need to run, night get away with crawling .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: wbarenno on January 10, 2021, 06:02:58 PM
I honestly can’t remember the last time I dreaded a game of football more then this one , been years. We’re going to get hammered  ???

What I am taking pleasure in is seeing the dingles literally bricking it. I know we’ve had the better of them over the years but i didn’t quite realise how damaged they are mentally from us. If they can’t be confident in beating us next week they never will be confident. I will enjoy the week with them then go into hiding
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 10, 2021, 06:39:11 PM
First away game at the Mol that I will miss for many a year . Have seen us win 5-1 there twice ( and lose 0-7) and just about every other result . Worry not , we are still well ahead on the head to head
Won 64
Lost 53
Drawn 43
Many times in recent years we have been underdogs and prevailed. It could happen again, and just think about it , were we to get a result with this mottley crew, we would indeed be able to extract the urine.
COYB all will be forgiven.
 
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mister AT on January 10, 2021, 11:25:59 PM
Possibly the best time to have this game.

We are the poorest we have been for a while and very few of us expect a result, with many of us thinking this could be the revenge of the 1-5.

With no fans and the current disconnect between club and fans, if there ever was a time we HAD to lose against them, I’d let it be now.
Title: Team
Post by: Mister AT on January 10, 2021, 11:27:24 PM
Johnstone

Furlong
Bartley/OShea
Ajayi
Gibbs

Livermore
Gallagher

Diangana
Periera
Snodgrass

Robinson

Title: Re: Team
Post by: gazberg on January 10, 2021, 11:27:59 PM
Gallagher suspended mate
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Mister AT on January 10, 2021, 11:29:35 PM
Gallagher suspended mate

Oh yeah! Guess the baggies fan Sawyers will play then.

Title: Re: Team
Post by: gazberg on January 10, 2021, 11:43:10 PM
Oh yeah! Guess the baggies fan Sawyers will play then.

We need a proper DCM signed before Friday for this game.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 11, 2021, 10:35:12 AM
I am dreading this, I really am - we’ve taken the pee out of them for the last 20 years. Got a feeling that they might make up for that on Saturday.

At least none of them will be there to see it  ;)
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on January 11, 2021, 10:45:33 AM
I don't think they'll bother getting changed for this one, they could turn up in suit and ties and muller us.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 11, 2021, 10:57:09 AM
I just thank the lord I can't even go out for this, let alone go to the game, the pubs of Tipton would not be a nice place to watch us get a tonking from this mob.
I would, literally, rather spend 90 minutes having my nads waxed.

4-0 mimimum
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 11, 2021, 11:39:52 AM
Three little things that give me any hope of getting any sort of a result on Saturday

It took big Sam six games to get his first win at Palace.
Albion seems to get a result against all the odds .
Dingles may take eye of the prize.

The odd miracle does happen from time to time.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 11, 2021, 02:20:05 PM
                       Johnstone

Furlong      Bartley        O'Shea      Gibbs

                      Livermore

Snodgrass   Pereira   Sawyers   Diangana

                      Robinson

If Field is available then I would consider him of Sawyers and push Livermore further forward
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 11, 2021, 02:36:31 PM
GK. Johnstone

RB. O'Shea
RCB. Ivanovic
LCB. Bartley 😢
LB. Gibbs

DCM. Field/new signing
RM. Snodgrass
CM. Krovinović (last chance)
LM. Grosicki
AM. Pereira

ST. Robinson (no other choice)

Not sure it'll be enough, but certainly hope to avoid defeat.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 11, 2021, 06:15:23 PM
Just been having a read of Mol Mix. It was an amusing read  :D

I’ll pee myself laughing if one of the best sides they’ve ever had cannot beat our bunch of no hopes
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 11, 2021, 06:48:17 PM
Just been having a read of Mol Mix. It was an amusing read  :D

I’ll pee myself laughing if one of the best sides they’ve ever had cannot beat our bunch of no hopes

Thick aren't they? Spent most of the last few pages of our thread squabbling among themselves first about when we took the South Bank and now about whether Ajayi is quick. If you're reading lads, he's extremely quick, but still **** at this level. A walking mistake.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Dexy on January 11, 2021, 07:54:03 PM
Thick aren't they? Spent most of the last few pages of our thread squabbling among themselves first about when we took the South Bank and now about whether Ajayi is quick. If you're reading lads, he's extremely quick, but still **** at this level. A walking mistake.
I don't think Semi is that bad , he's played pretty well at times this season .
He does however look mentally fatigued and mistakes are slipping in , he's not the only one like that.
Won't go over old ground but we do need to take the pressure off a few of ours with a couple of decent signings especially a DM .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: DaveWBA on January 11, 2021, 09:51:00 PM
Who's arsed, we've lost the big derby.

Wolves have at least three footballers and will therefore give us an absolute pumping. It'll be the same against someone else the week after too.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 11, 2021, 10:58:51 PM
One ray of light is that while we have a week to prepare with Allardyce, Wolves have to play a game tomorrow vs Evertonso will have less rest following a tough run of games.

They are also not quite as dangerous up front without Jimenez and against s sides who sit back and defend like us, they have had their troubles in the past.

They have some great technical players like Ruben Neves, Daniel Podence and Pedro Neto, but I don’t think at this point they are quite as good as last seasons side following the loss of Jota and Jimenez.

We could nick a point if Allardyce can finally get some form of improvement out of them. We could do with another signing between now and the game though - preferably a defensive midfielder.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 11, 2021, 11:16:59 PM
Didnt realise they played tommorow. A small gift.  An injury or sending off for them would be nice too  8)
Title: Re: Team
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 11, 2021, 11:23:41 PM
GK. Johnstone

RB. O'Shea
RCB. Ivanovic
LCB. Bartley 😢
LB. Gibbs

DCM. Field/new signing
RM. Snodgrass
CM. Krovinović (last chance)
LM. Grosicki
AM. Pereira

ST. Robinson (no other choice)

Not sure it'll be enough, but certainly hope to avoid defeat.
I'm close to agreeing with you. but not quite!  :D As Field didn't feature at all against Blackpool, he can't be fit enough to play yet for whatever reason. Whether AN Other appears to play in that role in time remains to be seen.

As for the defence, I'd play O'Shea centrally instead of Ivanovic and continue with Furlong at right-back. Whether Bartley is going to be better than Ajayi is questionable. As we all know, plenty of Bartley's performances have been slated on here.

As for the rest, I agree! :) Diangana has done nothing for some considerable time to justify continuing to get a starting place and I think Grosicki did enough on Saturday to warrant getting the nod against Wolves.

Although I wouldn't do it, I suspect Allardyce will bring back Phillips and leave out Krovinovic. I wonder if he'll make Snodgrass captain on his debut?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on January 11, 2021, 11:33:27 PM
Leeds had less rest time than us aswell. Look how that turned out.

Last season Wolves were playing Thursday and Sunday every week, never hampered them.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Atomic on January 12, 2021, 07:24:55 AM
                    Johnstone

Furlong  Bartley  O'Shea  Gibbs

                        Field

Snodgrass Livermore Pereira  Grosicky

                      Robinson
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 12, 2021, 07:53:36 AM
Who's arsed, we've lost the big derby.

Wolves have at least three footballers and will therefore give us an absolute pumping. It'll be the same against someone else the week after too.
Yove lost yower big derby, we ay played mine yet, we shall see.......who's arsed indeed? ask the players that question, not supporters.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Mister AT on January 12, 2021, 10:10:39 AM
Have I missed something regarding Ajayi? Seen a couple teams above without him in...
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 12, 2021, 10:15:39 AM
Have I missed something regarding Ajayi? Seen a couple teams above without him in...

8 of the 12 goals we've conceded at home under Big Sam being at least partially his fault and his abject display on Saturday perhaps?
Title: Re: Team
Post by: mini gaardsoe on January 12, 2021, 10:16:38 AM
Have I missed something regarding Ajayi? Seen a couple teams above without him in...

Defensively he's been appalling. There may be a case to start him up front however as he's the only player we've got who can  score at the minute!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: cad on January 12, 2021, 10:52:19 AM
Defensively he's been appalling. There may be a case to start him up front however as he's the only player we've got who can  score at the minute!

Given our lack of options, this might not be the worst idea.
I seem to remember Gary Strodder doing a job upfront in the past!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: skyclad99 on January 12, 2021, 10:57:27 AM
Given our lack of options, this might not be the worst idea.
I seem to remember Gary Strodder doing a job upfront in the past!

Our new Paul Williams, but at least Semi can head the ball....... ;D
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on January 12, 2021, 10:59:29 AM
Without the fans in the ground this will be just another game for the players, they won't appreciate the intensity of the occasion.
Most of them won't have a clue what it means to us.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: brummyroader on January 12, 2021, 12:14:38 PM
Johnstone

O’Shea
Ajayi
Bartley
Gibbs

Grosicki
Phillips
Sawyers
Snodgrass

Pereira

Robinson

Button, Furlong, Ivanovic, Krovinivic, Harper, Livermore, Diangana, Diaby, Edwards
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Mister AT on January 12, 2021, 12:21:35 PM
Johnstone

O’Shea
Ajayi
Bartley
Gibbs

Grosicki
Phillips
Sawyers
Snodgrass

Pereira

Robinson

Button, Furlong, Ivanovic, Krovinivic, Harper, Livermore, Diangana, Diaby, Edwards

Switch Livermore for Phillips and that’s the team I reckon he will go with. The biggest threat for wolves are the wingers so I can see him putting o’Shea at RB to keep us tighter.
Title: match officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 12, 2021, 12:30:33 PM
Referee: Michael Oliver
Assistant Referee: Stuart Burt
Assistant Referee: Simon Bennett
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley
Video Assistant Referee: David Coote
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Nick Hopton
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 12, 2021, 12:32:51 PM
Oh dear.

Normally I'd be pleased with Oliver, but didn't he give the ridiculous Pereira red card from Stockley Park?
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 12, 2021, 12:35:17 PM
Oh dear.
Normally I'd be pleased with Oliver, but didn't he give the ridiculous Pereira red card from Stockley Park?

yeah he did, a decent ref generally though but that red was very harsh.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: tuamigos on January 12, 2021, 12:56:53 PM
Never took to him after the Jara and Ibanez double at Blackpool a few years back
Title: Re: Team
Post by: KN22 on January 12, 2021, 01:06:06 PM
GK. Johnstone

RB. O'Shea
RCB. Ivanovic
LCB. Bartley 😢
LB. Gibbs

DCM. Field/new signing
RM. Snodgrass
CM. Krovinović (last chance)
LM. Grosicki
AM. Pereira

ST. Robinson (no other choice)

Not sure it'll be enough, but certainly hope to avoid defeat.

Far too lightweight in midfield for me. But we don't have too many options for sure!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 12, 2021, 01:29:16 PM
One ray of light is that while we have a week to prepare with Allardyce, Wolves have to play a game tomorrow vs Evertonso will have less rest following a tough run of games.

They are also not quite as dangerous up front without Jimenez and against s sides who sit back and defend like us, they have had their troubles in the past.

They have some great technical players like Ruben Neves, Daniel Podence and Pedro Neto, but I don’t think at this point they are quite as good as last seasons side following the loss of Jota and Jimenez.

We could nick a point if Allardyce can finally get some form of improvement out of them. We could do with another signing between now and the game though - preferably a defensive midfielder.

The thought of Podence and Neto running against Furlong and Gibbs is enough to give me nightmare. Elegant, technical footballers.

The other option of Troare is even worse.

Imagine Sawyers trying to stop him?  :D
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 12, 2021, 01:35:50 PM
I see nothing but a loss here. Anything else would be a bonus.

However, id have expected us to lose even if we were playing well if im honest because Wolves have a very good side and are ahead of us playing staff wise by a few years of Prem football.

Personally I think they will be more nervous than us about this game
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on January 12, 2021, 01:37:13 PM
Posting as someone who hasn't seen a single Dingle game this season are they actually as good as the hype which surrounded them when Jiminez was in the side? Based purely on highlights he looks a good player whom I wish well with his recovery and potential future move to a big club.

All I know is they're supposed to be defensively sound, they have a couple of technically decent midfielders and a rapid man mountain who likes to rub himself with baby oil before he goes on the pitch.

To those who live in Dingle areas are the six fingered ones still arrogant, up themselves and into that dandy game called Incest that the whole family can play?

And do they still hate those of us who couldn't give a monkey's about them until we play them with a passion only surpassed by hairy knuckled sister love?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: NJS on January 12, 2021, 02:09:58 PM
I see nothing but a loss here. Anything else would be a bonus.

However, id have expected us to lose even if we were playing well if im honest because Wolves have a very good side and are ahead of us playing staff wise by a few years of Prem football.
...

Aren't we just looking for an improvement in performance: what can the new manager do with the same squad?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on January 12, 2021, 02:16:22 PM
Aren't we just looking for an improvement in performance: what can the new manager do with the same squad?

Well if we dip below last weeks showing they'll take us off the coupon.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 12, 2021, 02:27:48 PM
Never took to him after the Jara and Ibanez double at Blackpool a few years back

I'd forgotten he was the ref for that. The Ibanez decision was terrible and so early in the game...if I remember rightly wasn't it rescinded on appeal?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 12, 2021, 02:31:21 PM

To those who live in Dingle areas are the six fingered ones still arrogant, up themselves and into that dandy game called Incest that the whole family can play?

And do they still hate those of us who couldn't give a monkey's about them until we play them with a passion only surpassed by hairy knuckled sister love?

I’m born and bred in Wolverhampton Dan. Married into a staunch Dingle family, who actually work the Custard Bowl on match day and have for 40+ years. Many of my friends and colleagues are Dingles, so I know only too well what they’re like.

The short answer to your question is yes.

The Dingles spend most of their time now focused on breaking into the top 6. A lot of the ones I know are hoping this weekend will vanquish the 1-5 from February 2012.

Hope that answers your question 👍🏻
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 12, 2021, 02:49:37 PM
     
                                              Johnstone

                 O'Shea              Ajayi              Bartley            Gibbs

                                                 Livermore

             Snodgrass                  Phillips           Pereira             Grosicki

                                                     Robinson

  Subs:  Button, Ivanovitch, Furlong, Sawyers, Krovinovic, Diangana, Diaby.

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: leeiswba on January 12, 2021, 02:51:24 PM
Don’t really want to get into which one is the ‘big derby’ we’ve been over it but I’ll say what I always say;

I’ve been to villa and celebrated a Koumas equaliser in the upper north stand with another 100 Albion fans and no one up there has said a word and been to villa park when there has been 10k empty seats which has been their lowest attendance of the season. Also when freely able to walk to the ground with Albion colours on it doesn’t give me this big derby feeling although each to their own.

Getting to the molineux and the atmosphere in the ground is incomparable to be quiet honest.

Anyway on to the game itself it unfortunately has the feeling of ‘it’s their turn’ after the last 20 years although no matter how we have been in the past we always seem to pull something out the bag against them, praying it’s the same Saturday.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 12, 2021, 03:05:11 PM
We've tended to concede less goals away from home (15 in 8 games away 24 in 9 games at home), although we have yet to get a clean sheet away.

Wolves are a better side than us but don't look anywhere near as good without Jiminez.

Another 'rope a dope' performance, our first clean sheet away and a 2-0 win! Pereira and Robinson to score.

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on January 12, 2021, 03:53:24 PM
1. Don’t really want to get into which one is the ‘big derby’

2. we’ve been over it

3. but I’ll say what I always say....

1. Fair play Lee, it's a boring debate rife with emotional subjectivity.

2. Ad nauseam.

3. But you did it anyway  ;D .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 12, 2021, 04:03:35 PM
The only thing we've got going for us is that Wolves aren't prolific scorers. For me, it depends on whether we concede an early goal, if so I think our gloating over the 5-1 and our recent successes over them might be avenged. If we can get to half time still in the game, we could sneak a draw.
However, I'm looking at a 3-0 defeat as my prediction.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: leeiswba on January 12, 2021, 04:10:40 PM
1. Fair play Lee, it's a boring debate rife with emotional subjectivity.

2. Ad nauseam.

3. But you did it anyway  ;D .

Haha, I did think when I posted it that I have totally done what I set out not to do but couldn’t put the time taken to write it to waste.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 12, 2021, 04:58:13 PM
Not really seen Wolves much since their relegation from PL about 9 years ago.

Saw them play earlier this season and was not the swashbuckling football i expected at all. They were organised and hard to beat though if tough to watch at times. Shall watch them vs Everton tonight and hopefully it's a better game.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on January 12, 2021, 05:10:00 PM
Haha, I did think when I posted it that I have totally done what I set out not to do but couldn’t put the time taken to write it to waste.

You'll probably know my thoughts on who and why. In all the time I've posted on here I've stated I'm only bothered about Wolves when we play them.

Well we're playing them shortly so they've got my full attention (for what it's worth). It's perfectly acceptable to despise both the Vile AND the Ding Dings.

I hope we knock 'em clever and back at the weekend. What I don't want to see are loads of Albion perpetually papping themselves at the prospect of defeat when this is an opportunity to shut them up.

COYB and FTW  8) .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 12, 2021, 05:23:02 PM
Imagine if we were to win and it was to kick start the transformation of our season.

No, I cant see it either  :(

Missing Gallagher and the lack of a decent defensive midfielder will be our downfall. The problem with a punchers chance, you need some fight in the first place.


Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 12, 2021, 05:48:09 PM
If we don't get battered it'll be a success.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: albion59 on January 12, 2021, 07:27:41 PM
All this doom and gloom! I remember and i'm sure a lot of the older members on here do, back in the 70s on a snow bound pitch playing with the orange ball. The dingles hadn't won for about 27 games came to the Albion and beat us 3-0 i think it was maybe 3-1! So anything can happen in football especially in a derby. Din5les 1 Albion 2! COYB!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 12, 2021, 07:29:42 PM
Interesting to see their injury list tonight. Morgan Gibbs-White starts because Traore has followed Podence into the treatment room.

Boly is also out and their bench tonight is stacked with the expensive youth kods they have bought over the last 12 months.

Would be nice is nobody returns for the weekend.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: timdon on January 12, 2021, 07:41:00 PM
Think this will be a 1-1 draw, no chance we will lose heavily as some are predicting.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: leeiswba on January 12, 2021, 07:44:20 PM
All this doom and gloom! I remember and i'm sure a lot of the older members on here do, back in the 70s on a snow bound pitch playing with the orange ball. The dingles hadn't won for about 27 games came to the Albion and beat us 3-0 i think it was maybe 3-1! So anything can happen in football especially in a derby. Din5les 1 Albion 2! COYB!

Didn’t we end our long losing run against them in the 90s albeit with a draw?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: CL3MO on January 12, 2021, 07:48:46 PM
Hearing from my Wolves mate that Traore - who isn't in the squad tonight against Everton - hasn't trained since before the Palace game.

Bizarrely, they all feel that we will 'do them', which I find funny. However, it's clear that they're not the team that they were last season.

Yet, none of that matters if you've got a team that can't score, can't defend, shows no passion, has no leaders, and hasn't reacted well to the new manager at all  :-X
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: albion59 on January 12, 2021, 07:50:04 PM
Didn’t we end our long losing run against them in the 90s albeit with a draw?
I do believe you are correct.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 12, 2021, 07:55:30 PM
Made a big error. Thought this game was Sunday so booked the last viewing slot available on a house for Saturday blooming lunchtime.  :o
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 12, 2021, 07:59:16 PM
I do believe you are correct.
0-0 I think Andy Hunt missed a pen.
We’d lost 12 or 13 in a row.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: tuamigos on January 12, 2021, 08:18:08 PM
I'd forgotten he was the ref for that. The Ibanez decision was terrible and so early in the game...if I remember rightly wasn't it rescinded on appeal?

I think it was but too late to affect the result
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on January 12, 2021, 08:18:16 PM
Free hit basically, come on then!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albionic on January 12, 2021, 08:40:31 PM
hoping for a Man City / Liverpool type performance and to emerge with a 0-0 draw.

expecting something entirely different  :-[
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 12, 2021, 08:43:59 PM
Free hit basically, come on then!

I never would have thought that at the start of the season. I expect nothing but a mess... but I'm hopeful that the team just go at it - thinking the same way as us.

Albionic took the words out of my mouth!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiebof on January 12, 2021, 10:26:24 PM
Starting to get that horrible feeling - hope - that we might get something. It's the hope that kills you.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albionic on January 12, 2021, 10:28:40 PM
we could be bottom come  16:00 sunday  :-[
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 12, 2021, 11:30:56 PM
Recruitment posts have been shifted to the Allardyce thread as they nothing to do with Saturdays game
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on January 13, 2021, 07:23:01 AM
they lost again last night so their form over the last 5 games is no better than ours.
Maybe, just maybe  :o
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: HamsteadHarry on January 13, 2021, 08:05:03 AM
I think last night's result is useful. They've won one in eight league games and aren't in great form. If we can get organised  (big ask!) there is the chance that their in match confidence is going to suffer whilst ours will grow. Another Albion defeat is not a forgone conclusion.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: DaveWBA on January 13, 2021, 08:32:23 AM
They're absolutely ******** themselves, I had no idea we meant so much to them.

Anything less than a win for them will arguably be more embarrassing than the 5-1, we are that bad.

Owners worth over £100bn, a team with some of Europe's best young talent assembled on mates rates with the help of Mendes versus our gang of idiots on a day out and this is the state of their nerves... I bet Gornal is a bit eggy at the moment.

https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/albion-predictions.407218/
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 13, 2021, 09:25:40 AM
One of theirs on the "Mix" said we are big, strong , and tough. I thought I was on the wrong thread, but this is what they are like.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albionic on January 13, 2021, 09:28:37 AM
One of theirs on the "Mix" said we are big, strong , and tough. I thought I was on the wrong thread, but this is what they are like.
and they are skillful, smart, intelligent and entertaining and look good in their snazzy kit !!!    (well they started the sarcasm!!)
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 13, 2021, 09:57:50 AM
Big Sam needs a result from this game, which may go a little way to appeasing some of the fanbase regarding his appointment.

It would provide him with a little breathing space and wriggle room.

I would be happy with the draw, as would Big Sam, no doubt.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 13, 2021, 10:04:50 AM
Big Sam needs a result from this game, which may go a little way to appeasing some of the fanbase regarding his appointment.

It would provide him with a little breathing space and wriggle room.

I would be happy with the draw, as would Big Sam, no doubt.
Yow ay a black country mon am yeah?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 13, 2021, 12:14:26 PM
Sod it, i'm going with an Albion win. Snodgrass on debut and Pereira to answer this week's critics. There, that's my prediction.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on January 13, 2021, 12:19:59 PM
Is the game on BT?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2021, 12:25:04 PM
Is the game on BT?

Yes it is
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tegga on January 13, 2021, 03:50:47 PM
I can't see any room for optimism. What makes us think anything will change? The Dingles going through a bad patch? Some of their fans predicting a win for us? Or because we have a good record over them for the last 20 years or so?

Let's just face it, we will get beaten as usual.

Having said that, I will be watching on by and my Albion heart will beating as usual for a win.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: GREGMT on January 13, 2021, 10:07:06 PM
Harbouring hopes of a win with Livermore &  Sawyers in the team.

It's just not going to happen.

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 13, 2021, 10:09:50 PM
Harbouring hopes of a win with Livermore &  Sawyers in the team.


Both are our Achilles heel
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: chipperclark on January 13, 2021, 11:18:53 PM
 ;D This is Albion and we have been pumped a few times this year.
But knowing us we will win 2-1 against all odds (as Phil Collins would say).
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: the other AJ on January 14, 2021, 07:27:08 AM
As an exiled Baggie living overseas who married a Wolverhampton lass, this is my derby...

Some of my memories .....
1983 first game vs the dings at home, lost 3-1 and got caught up in fighting at half time down the front of the Brummie ( I was only 9 years old, so I held back 😛)
1989 Bully celebrates in front of the Brummie 🤬
1993 Darren Bradley exquisite finish and Donovan’s cheeky 3-2 gesture
1996 the Iwan Roberts 2-4 horror show
1998 my first Molineux visit and Andy Hunt 1-0 , went ballistic and ended up 2 rows nearer the pitch after scoring
2001 back at the custard bowl in December, Jordao clincher for another 1-0 and shouldn’t even have been on the pitch 😂😉
2007 played them 5 times including the playoffs wins but the most memorable day was the 3-0 away win in the FA Cup when we took over the South Bank and sang some of the best football chants I’ve ever heard 😂😂
2011 my last game against the dings before emigrating and the final minute equaliser to snatch a 1-1 draw at home before some afters in the stands , including a smuggled flare being chucked post full time by the dogheads at the East Stand corner giving it loads...

So after that brief personal dings experience, not sure what to expect tomorrow.
Head says usual loss and goals conceded based on this seasons form
Heart says look at the history and what we achieved as underdogs against them back the the 90’s and after that

One thing I do know is that I’ll be like a cat on a hot tin roof, come 8:30 pm Down Here on Saturday  night.....
COYB & SOTW!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: skyclad99 on January 14, 2021, 07:44:08 AM
Harbouring hopes of a win with Livermore &  Sawyers in the team.

It's just not going to happen.

Agreed

I have got the KY jelly on stand by.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 14, 2021, 10:33:43 AM
Envitable that we will concede because why change a habit and we won't score because why change a habit. Thought we would have a few new faces for this encounter with the dog heads but why change a habit, going to get mauled.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 14, 2021, 12:06:13 PM
As an exiled Baggie living overseas who married a Wolverhampton lass, this is my derby...

Some of my memories .....
1983 first game vs the dings at home, lost 3-1 and got caught up in fighting at half time down the front of the Brummie ( I was only 9 years old, so I held back 😛)
1989 Bully celebrates in front of the Brummie 🤬
1993 Darren Bradley exquisite finish and Donovan’s cheeky 3-2 gesture
1996 the Iwan Roberts 2-4 horror show
1998 my first Molineux visit and Andy Hunt 1-0 , went ballistic and ended up 2 rows nearer the pitch after scoring
2001 back at the custard bowl in December, Jordao clincher for another 1-0 and shouldn’t even have been on the pitch 😂😉
2007 played them 5 times including the playoffs wins but the most memorable day was the 3-0 away win in the FA Cup when we took over the South Bank and sang some of the best football chants I’ve ever heard 😂😂
2011 my last game against the dings before emigrating and the final minute equaliser to snatch a 1-1 draw at home before some afters in the stands , including a smuggled flare being chucked post full time by the dogheads at the East Stand corner giving it loads...

So after that brief personal dings experience, not sure what to expect tomorrow.
Head says usual loss and goals conceded based on this seasons form
Heart says look at the history and what we achieved as underdogs against them back the the 90’s and after that

One thing I do know is that I’ll be like a cat on a hot tin roof, come 8:30 pm Down Here on Saturday  night.....
COYB & SOTW!!!!!!

Some good and bad memories in there, mostly good. Mine kick in at 1993 with Darren Bradley's winner.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on January 14, 2021, 12:34:49 PM
Some good and bad memories in there, mostly good. Mine kick in at 1993 with Darren Bradley's winner.

Kevin Donovan got the winner.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 14, 2021, 01:25:35 PM
The 5-1 will always be my favourite memory, watching it a packed pub thay went wild.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 14, 2021, 01:36:07 PM
We've had so many to choose from in the last 20 years or so.

There has never been a point where I thought "these ******* might hammer us here".

I pretty much went into the derby games expecting us to win - such was the difference.

Roles have reversed somewhat as I'm now expecting them to beat us, for the first time in a very long while.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Baggies on January 14, 2021, 01:39:53 PM
Less than 24 hours to register a new signing in time for this game which looks less likely now.

Difficult one to pick. Will he rip the defence up and give Bartley a go or will he want Ajayi there to try to deal with their pace on the counter attack. I wouldn't be surprised by 3 at the back with Bartley, Ajayi and O'Shea, Furlong and Phillips in the full back roles. He may even put Snodgrass in the lwb role.

Livermore and Sawyers in the base of midfield with Pereira and Robinson up top.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 14, 2021, 01:42:44 PM
Will he rip the defence up and give Bartley a go or will he want Ajayi there to try to deal with their pace on the counter attack.

Are you suggesting we might be giving it a go?  ;D

I'd rather Wolves try and open the game up and allow us to attempt to pick them off.

I certainly don't want Troare and Neto running at us from distance.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on January 14, 2021, 01:46:44 PM
Coming from South Brum, Vile has always been the big one for me, as there just weren’t any Dog Heads about, and rightly so, Albion and Vile were the big two in the West Midlands, however, that doesn’t mean I I have any liking for Wolves. Memories for me include:
1977 - 2-2 draw at our place, Wolves fans on the roof of the Smethwick, Wolves fans throwing stones into Woodman from behind the Rainbow and me throwing them back at them, and getting booted to the ground when it went off on Halfords Lane after the match, I was 10 yrs old.
Early 80s spending time in Bridgnorth, my step cousin who had been a Leeds fan last I saw him was now a rabid dog head, and I was bemused at how much they hated us.
1983- Their place for a 2-1 win and trying to get to the bus station past the biggest street brawl I have ever seen.
1984 - Their place, 0-0 in front of 13000, horrible atmosphere, great singing from Albion including Non stop singing of ‘Goodbye Wolves”. Lots of trouble after.
1990 - Bully’s last minute equaliser.
The 4-2 embarrassment, drove from Germany, and still say if Superbob had been on from start we’d have won it. Same season again drove from Germany, 2-0 their place, spent game winding up a dog head in the tier above, he was incandescent with rage, despite them wiping the floor with us on the pitch, and I realised that it doesn’t matter how good or bad Wolves are, it’s all about us for them, they are obsessed.
Loads more memories but interested to read those of other people.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: smethwickw on January 14, 2021, 01:52:13 PM
I can see Snodgrass starting in a central midfield position.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: koren on January 14, 2021, 03:23:29 PM
                     Johnstone

 Furlong      Ajayi     O'Shea       Gibbs

             Livermore        Field

Diangana          Pereira          Snodgrass

                     Robinson
Title: Re: Team
Post by: FallOutBoy on January 14, 2021, 03:41:27 PM
Johnstone

Furlong
Ajayi
O'Shea
Gibbs

Livermore
Krovinovic

Diangana
Pereira
Snodgrass (C)

Robinson

Subs: Button, Bartley, Peltier, Field, Sawyers, Grosicki, Diaby

I'd start Field but don't think he'll be fit enough to go straight in, so bench. Pointless keeping Sawyers in there at this point, he's playing poorly and each game is destroying what's left of his confidence. Ivanovic is too old and too slow, but Bartley has rocks in his head and Kipre seems miles off. Phillips can do one.

The fact that we're picking from this squad shows how poor we are.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albion79 on January 14, 2021, 04:02:10 PM
Although Wolves are better than us, i dont think they are a great side and are massively missing their focal point in Jimenez.

When Masi sounded like he thought Choudury was going to be in, that along with Snodgrass i thought would give us a big lift and i was cautiously optimistic of a point, however it dont look like thats happening now and my optimism is fading!

I have a feeling Allardyce may use Snodgrass in centre midfield, he said in his interview Snodgrass can play anywhere across the middle, he is known for his not stop running and with us missing Gallagher i can see him playing there.

If that is the case i would go -

GK - Johnstone
RWB - Furlong
LWB - Diangana (bit of pace to try and combat Traore)
CH - Ajayi, OShea and Bartley
CM - Snodgrass and Livermore
AM - Pereira and Grosicki
CF - Robinson
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 14, 2021, 04:15:22 PM
Can we just go back to february 2012 please? Life was just a lot better back then; we all had more hair, were able to visit pubs as we pleased. Good times. But no, we'll roll over saturday like we've done for most sides this year. 4-1 wolves for me (dont think theyll quite match our record)  ;)
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: wodenson46 on January 14, 2021, 06:34:03 PM
This one has ****** us over more than once, both on the pitch and as var. Fully expect him to do it again, but doubt it will make that much difference. Think we will get stuffed again anyway
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggie82 on January 14, 2021, 07:24:14 PM
Given we went into the Liverpool game paying a formation of 6-4-0 I wonder how long before we try starting two goalkeepers. Sam Johnstone can have one side of the goals and Andy Longeran the other. Kipre can then stand in the middle for good measure. I think that's our only chance this weekend.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Tatnam baggie on January 14, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
Anything than a comfortable wolves win would be a huge surprise.
I am enjoying the positive posts though. COYB
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: the other AJ on January 15, 2021, 03:20:53 AM
Kevin Donovan got the winner.
Well we went 2-1 up with that screamer, so could’ve been the winner at that point 😘
Donovan’s curling header in front of the Brummie was equally as sublime.......
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: the other AJ on January 15, 2021, 03:28:20 AM
Some good and bad memories in there, mostly good. Mine kick in at 1993 with Darren Bradley's winner.
I think that game was when the Boing Boing in the Brummie was massive and the whole stand was doing it. I spoke to a guy who was down the concourse and coming back from the bogs and he said the concrete beam/ steps were flexing and touching the top of the refreshment kiosk 😳
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 15, 2021, 08:22:51 AM
Cannot recall a game with this importance for which I have had less optimism. For whatever reason an already poor side now looks totally devoid of any fight or enthusiasm for the battle. Not sure why although I have my views on it. A defeat by 3 goals or more is what I expect. Desperately want to be wrong though!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mister AT on January 15, 2021, 09:13:29 AM
I can’t remember the last time we went into a Derby game and I genuinely didn’t really care.

Hasn’t really been much banter between me and the wolves fans I know.

Think I’ve accepted that there’s a 90% chance I’ll witness a performance from a bunch of players who couldn’t really care less and no doubt that will show on the pitch.

Hope they prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 15, 2021, 09:15:32 AM
The 5-1 will always be my favourite memory, watching it a packed pub thay went wild.

I was in a box in the Billy Quiet during the 1-5 in February 2012.

Best away match I’ve attended. What a day!! 😊
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 15, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
Field, HRK and Townsend all out.

HRK could return for West Ham, others further behind.

Medical team dont want to risk Field.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sam-allardyce-delivers-injury-update-19631359
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 15, 2021, 01:24:33 PM
Sam Field is made of biscuits. Is there ever a point where the boy is not injured?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 15, 2021, 01:26:18 PM
Not sure when his contract ends but seems little point resigning him if his appearance record doesn't vastly improve.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on January 15, 2021, 01:34:23 PM
For me Field has to nail down a place during the second half of the season. His contract is up in 2022 and whilst still "relatively" young for a holding midfielder his career really has to get kick started. He will be 23 in May and he really needs to get fit, stay fit and start playing regular football.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Atomic on January 15, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
Field is out (surprise, surprise) so I expect we will have Sawyers "screening" the back four again. ☹

I'm expecting yet another miserable ninety minutes.

Apparently a number of Wolves fans are worried. God knows why.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 15, 2021, 01:42:12 PM
For me Field has to nail down a place during the second half of the season. His contract is up in 2022 and whilst still "relatively" young for a holding midfielder his career really has to get kick started. He will be 23 in May and he really needs to get git, stay fit and start playing regular football.

Allardyce is saying all the right things to suggest Field is well in his plans, willing to hold him back to ensure he's fit for the remainder of the season.

I just hope it doesn't but signing a decent defensive midfielder on the back burner because I just don't think he's up to it, beyond being better than our other options.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 15, 2021, 01:50:34 PM
Allardyce is saying all the right things to suggest Field is well in his plans, willing to hold him back to ensure he's fit for the remainder of the season.

I just hope it doesn't but signing a decent defensive midfielder on the back burner because I just don't think he's up to it, beyond being better than our other options.

I don't think it will change the plans for a DM as we are/were still in for Choudury even though Field was close to fitness.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 15, 2021, 01:52:24 PM
This one has ****** us over more than once, both on the pitch and as var. Fully expect him to do it again, but doubt it will make that much difference. Think we will get stuffed again anyway

He was also the ref for the 5-5 with Man Utd when he should have sent off Scholes for a two footed lunge on Morrison and Evans for the punch to the face of Rosenberg.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: boingboing1! on January 15, 2021, 01:52:58 PM
Hopefully the Blackpool game has woke the lads up. Maybe Alladyce should play the 5-1 game to the players to show them how to perform on the weekend. I'll take a 1-1 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: miggybaggy on January 15, 2021, 01:57:47 PM
I think that game was when the Boing Boing in the Brummie was massive and the whole stand was doing it. I spoke to a guy who was down the concourse and coming back from the bogs and he said the concrete beam/ steps were flexing and touching the top of the refreshment kiosk 😳

You are correct! That was without doubt the most epic goal celebration I've ever experienced and I wont forget it til the day I die....and I've been going since 1967. Its so sad that those days are long gone but I'm grateful to have lived through them.

Oh....we'll lose 2 - 0.  :(
Title: Re: Team
Post by: hardtobeat on January 15, 2021, 01:58:20 PM
Wolves are very good from set pieces . Coadjutor , Saiss , Dendoncker and Bolly all very very good from corners etc. For that reason alone I may be tempted to start Bartley other wise  Grosicki ahead of Diangana and the rest as Falloutboy says but expect Phillips to be in instead of Krov !
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 15, 2021, 02:07:46 PM
Now we know the injury situation.

GK: Johnstone

RB: O'Shea
RCB: Ivanovic
LCB: Bartley
LB: Gibbs

DCM: Snodgrass
RM: Phillips
CM: Livermore 💀
LM: Grosicki
AM: Pereira

ST: Robinson
Title: Re: Team
Post by: gazberg on January 15, 2021, 02:36:14 PM
Yeah weird but vital we keep Sawyers out of starting xi where possible.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Atomic on January 15, 2021, 02:39:15 PM
Yeah weird but vital we keep Sawyers out of starting xi where possible.

To do that we pretty much have to play Phillips.

What a wretched squad we have.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: gazberg on January 15, 2021, 02:41:58 PM
To do that we pretty much have to play Phillips.

What a wretched squad we have.

We are very charitable if nothing else.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 15, 2021, 02:59:02 PM
Take the Big Match Quiz, can you beat 9?

https://www.wba.co.uk/quiz-corner/big-pre-match-quiz-wolves-v-albion

Well, its a bit of a distraction from the game I suppose
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 15, 2021, 03:13:01 PM
I can't see the idea of only having 1 striker up front.
Opposing team can block him out thus it is a strangle hold on our chance of scoring.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: AlbionFan on January 15, 2021, 03:13:18 PM
I have to say, I think Oliver is one of the better PL refs.

I remember the Blackpool game, but in his defence, he was only a babby at the time  ;D
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 15, 2021, 03:17:04 PM
I can't see the idea of only having 1 striker up front.
Opposing team can block him out thus it is a strangle hold on our chance of scoring.

We've only got one striker available and our midfield is like a sieve so needs 5 in it.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: SmethDan on January 15, 2021, 04:26:09 PM
I have to say, I think Oliver is one of the better PL refs......

A very damning indictment of EPL referees in general Colin. Understated, succinct, cutting  ;) .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: leeiswba on January 15, 2021, 06:48:50 PM
I’d just set up same as we did against Liverpool and City and hope to nick one. Anytime we show any attacking intent teams just walk through us, not pretty but seems the only way we can stay in games
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 15, 2021, 07:00:09 PM
Any chance we can have corona virus outbreak overnight?

On a serious note, the first match in nearly 9 years should have been  massive. There can’t be too many occasions in the (near) 150 years of this game that it hasn’t been played for nearly a decade.  Even with us being poor it’s all I should have been thinking about this all week.

However the prospect of watching an empty stadium from the house, and the lack of in person banter before and after just isnt the same.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 15, 2021, 07:00:42 PM
Field, HRK and Townsend all out.

HRK could return for West Ham, others further behind.

Medical team dont want to risk Field.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sam-allardyce-delivers-injury-update-19631359

The fact that these 3 missing the game is of any concern says it all about the current squad. Not a premier league player among them.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: KN22 on January 15, 2021, 07:02:13 PM
I can't see the idea of only having 1 striker up front.
Opposing team can block him out thus it is a strangle hold on our chance of scoring.

We don’t have one striker available let alone two!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: hardtobeat on January 15, 2021, 09:22:58 PM
Harper scored for academy side tonight I believe so guess he won’t be invited loved tomorrow
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 15, 2021, 09:43:35 PM
We’ll beat these they always bottle it under pressure .
Biggest question is who they going to fight when we do? Can’t be us, can’t be the coppers, can’t be each other. Wouldn’t wanna be a cat in Wolverhampton come 230 tomorrow.
COYB
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: sconesy on January 15, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
Although Wolves are better than us, i dont think they are a great side and are massively missing their focal point in Jimenez.

When Masi sounded like he thought Choudury was going to be in, that along with Snodgrass i thought would give us a big lift and i was cautiously optimistic of a point, however it dont look like thats happening now and my optimism is fading!

I have a feeling Allardyce may use Snodgrass in centre midfield, he said in his interview Snodgrass can play anywhere across the middle, he is known for his not stop running and with us missing Gallagher i can see him playing there.

If that is the case i would go -

GK - Johnstone
RWB - Furlong
LWB - Diangana (bit of pace to try and combat Traore)
CH - Ajayi, OShea and Bartley
CM - Snodgrass and Livermore
AM - Pereira and Grosicki
CF - Robinson

I’d go with this team too fella; I’d be so disappointed if we didn’t have a go. Watching us whimper to a 1 or 2 nil defeat with one shot on target would just about rip the last bit of life out of me!!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: DevonInStripes on January 16, 2021, 02:29:27 AM
 I would go with the following:
 
  Johnstone

  Furlong
  O’Shea
  Ajayi
  Gibbs

  Diangana
  Livermore
  Snodgrass
  Grosicki

  Pereira

  Robinson

  Subs Button , Kipre , Peltier , Phillips , Harper , Krovinovic , Edwards , Richards ,
  Diaby

  This was a real struggle as I wouldn’t even contemplate having Bartley , Ivanovich or
   Sawyers in the 20 ! Not saying that some of those I’ve picked deserve to be in but
   just the least worse options at the moment given current unavailability.
   


 
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: JMullen95 on January 16, 2021, 03:26:22 AM
I’m not a fan at all. If he’s the best we’ve got then it’s no wonder the standard of Premier League officials is so poor. He’s not that well thought of in Europe either, with Anthony Taylor being seen as England’s number 1 official which I can’t disagree with.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: DaveWBA on January 16, 2021, 06:35:44 AM
I’d go with this team too fella; I’d be so disappointed if we didn’t have a go. Watching us whimper to a 1 or 2 nil defeat with one shot on target would just about rip the last bit of life out of me!!

Why? You've had since September to get used to it.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on January 16, 2021, 08:54:04 AM
Morning all. Not remotely nervous. Unsure whether that's because we won't be there in person, I'm losing interest in football, I've accepted our fate for today and the remainder of the season or a bit of everything. Never mind. Floor exercises shortly and then it's time to look for a radio station and crack open the first beer of the day. Take it easy all, everything's going to be alright.......... COYB  8) .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: leeiswba on January 16, 2021, 09:04:30 AM
I was real nervous last night, first time felt it for years! Feeling alright now though, more gutted at the fact that we are missing out on a top day, should be in Oldbury spoons now before short walk to S&D train station.

Terrible we are all missing out on it, the nerves normally kick in around Monday or Tuesday with these lot and it’s the slowest week ever.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 09:16:38 AM
I was real nervous last night, first time felt it for years! Feeling alright now though, more gutted at the fact that we are missing out on a top day, should be in Oldbury spoons now before short walk to S&D train station.

Terrible we are all missing out on it, the nerves normally kick in around Monday or Tuesday with these lot and it’s the slowest week ever.

Precisely where we would be  ;D
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BB74 on January 16, 2021, 09:21:34 AM
I’m avoiding this wherever possible and will not be tuning in. 1-1 I’ll say though.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 09:32:13 AM
Diaby didn’t play for the reserves yesterday, so expect him on the bench again.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2021, 09:37:42 AM
Not at all worried, everyone expects us to get a thumping so we probably not disappoint, but you never know......
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2021, 09:42:11 AM
Diaby didn’t play for the reserves yesterday, so expect him on the bench again.

The fact he wasn’t included in the Blackpool squad makes me think he might be one of the two who reportedly have covid.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: DaveWBA on January 16, 2021, 09:59:53 AM
Free hit today.

It can't be any worse than watching us let the real enemy stroke it around the Hawthorns like the Harlem Globetrotters. Do you worst Albion, you usually do.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 10:02:09 AM
Free hit today.

It can't be any worse than watching us let the real enemy stroke it around the Hawthorns like the Harlem Globetrotters. Do you worst Albion, you usually do.

Just turning up for a start.

With a bit of luck someone has knocked some sense into Livermore.

Don’t go getting a red card ffs.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 10:03:25 AM
Expecting a heavy defeat so anything other than that is a bit of a bonus.

Got a house  viewing at 130pm so can only watch first half. Hopefully we are winning by then and I'll take that as final score for me
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
Having not played them for nine years, I wonder how many of our current team fully appreciate what this match means to the fans?

Going by the vile game, very little.

But I really do hope they prove me wrong and at least put in a battling performance that demonstrates pride and not one of abject surrender

COYB!!!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2021, 10:13:36 AM
Having not played them for nine years, I wonder how many of our current team fully appreciate what this match means to the fans?

Going by the vile game, very little.

But I really do hope they prove me wrong and at least put in a battling performance that demonstrates pride and not one of abject surrender

COYB!!!!

Field, Edwards, Harper and Sawyers will know what this means to the fans. Mozza has been there and done it. There’s no excuses for not giving 100% effort today.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 16, 2021, 10:17:57 AM
Field, Edwards, Harper and Sawyers will know what this means to the fans. Mozza has been there and done it. There’s no excuses for not giving 100% effort today.
Agreed, but none of them will be on the pitch.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albion79 on January 16, 2021, 10:31:50 AM
I have woke up today and based on nothing more than optimism and football being weird, i have a feeling we will win 2-1 or 3-1!

Feeling nervous but seeing and hearing Big Sam, he is saying all the right things about the derby and how getting points off out of form teams.

He sounds very relaxed and in control about our situation both in terms of recruitment and league position, he isnt panicking and seems to have some quiet belief, he has been there and done it that many times, he knows whats required and its reassured me!

Win today and the season starts again!! Come on the Albion!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 10:59:20 AM
I have woke up today and based on nothing more than optimism and football being weird, i have a feeling we will win 2-1 or 3-1!

Feeling nervous but seeing and hearing Big Sam, he is saying all the right things about the derby and how getting points off out of form teams.

He sounds very relaxed and in control about our situation both in terms of recruitment and league position, he isnt panicking and seems to have some quiet belief, he has been there and done it that many times, he knows whats required and its reassured me!

Win today and the season starts again!! Come on the Albion!

Love it  ;D the wonderfull but utterly baseless optimism of the Albion fan.  I give it 2 or 3 minutes before it dissolves away into sad reality.  Here's hoping I'm totally and utterly wrong. COYB!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 11:12:29 AM
The fact he wasn’t included in the Blackpool squad makes me think he might be one of the two who reportedly have covid.

Good point!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 11:19:00 AM
Can't put together a competetive team but for whats its worth

SJ

Furlong
Semi
O'shea
Bartley
Gibbs

Livermore
Snodgrass
Pez
Phillips

Robinson

I'm only going 5 at the back as it makes me feel more confident in defending but we all know it had no effect.  Really is no room for Ivanovic and Sawyers looks so off the pace.  Grady to come on for Phillips once he starts blowing out of his backside on 60 and reminds us of what he really can do!!

Edited for the new fella!!

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: NJS on January 16, 2021, 11:21:17 AM
Wolves are 14th in the league.  They are without their talismanic centre forward.  They played 4 days ago; Albion played 7 days ago.  By any rational perspective, a team which has any chance of avoiding relegation should be able to at least compete with them.  Especially as we have a new manager who many regard as far superior to the previous one.
So we shall see.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:25:23 AM
Can't put together a competetive team but for whats its worth

SJ

Furlong
Semi
O'shea
Bartley
Gibbs

Livermore
Phillips
Pez
Grady

Robinson

I'm only going 5 at the back as it makes me feel more confident in defending but we all know it had no effect.  Really is no room for Ivanovic and Sawyers looks so off the pace but will need to come on for Phillips once he starts blowing out his backside on 60 mins...unless we give Harper his shot.  There could be an argument for Edwards over Grady, but just want him to come good.

Just don't see Sam as a 5 at the back manager,  I could be wrong of course.

What I would say is I'm almost certain Snodgrass will play.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 11:26:30 AM
Just don't see Sam as a 5 at the back manager,  I could be wrong of course.

What I would say is I'm almost certain Snodgrass will play.

Yep.  Edited above.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: royhan on January 16, 2021, 11:34:24 AM
Button in goal. Grosicki starts
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:34:44 AM
Is it April fools day? 6 changes including the goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 11:35:00 AM
No Johnstone and Sawyers still in :-\

Oh and Sam, you certainly thought Jake the lesson you promised, I.e. he will not be captain again.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: royhan on January 16, 2021, 11:35:50 AM
Is SJ injured - or on his way?
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 11:36:55 AM
Is SJ injured - or on his way?

Possible COVID?
Title: Re: Team
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 11:37:18 AM
Is it April fools day? 6 changes including the goalkeeper.

Yes but a similar line up to your most recent prediction is it not?
Title: Re: Team
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 11:37:20 AM
Wonder why SJ isn’t in??

Strange one that
Title: Re: Team
Post by: leeiswba on January 16, 2021, 11:37:35 AM
Rumours are that Johnstone and Phillips have Covid.

Looking at the 2 teams any optimism I had has gone
Title: Re: Team
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 11:38:00 AM
Plenty of attacking intent in that side though

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:39:13 AM
Button

OShea
Ajayi
Bartley
Gibbs

Snodgrass
Livermore
Sawyers
Grosicki

Pereira

Robinson

Field and Kanu on bench after all, no Diaby as speculated.

Presume Johnstone has got Covid as opposed to on the way out of the club. I dont hate the team tbf. Ajayi is lucky he's got a goal in him, and Sawyers/Livermore is an obvious concern but the rest is what I'd have done.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:40:29 AM
Yes but a similar line up to your most recent prediction is it not?

Yes, wasn't a criticism.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 11:40:55 AM
Johnstone and Phillips out with CoVID. Dianagana out for unspecified reasons (i hope he is carrying a knock and not just being bombed out). Small thing, but it does now appear that Diaby's ommission last week vs Blackpool was political to prove a point.

Snodgrass om debut though with Grosicki starting too and maybe O'Shea at right back.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 11:41:16 AM
No Johnstone and Sawyers still in !

No Harper on bench.  So only Krov (not fancied by manager) or Field (match fit?) as options.  And that is the strength of our squad.   In fact that bench, in the PL, tells you everythingyou need to know  although it is good to see Field and HRK back.  Can't believe I've just typed that it's good to see Hal back.....
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 11:41:16 AM
There really aren’t any other available alternatives really.

Noticed that Neto is passed fit and Boly and Troare return for them.

I was hoping injuries might come to our rescue..
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 11:41:53 AM
Johnstone and Phillips out with CoVID. Dianagana out for unspecified reasons (i hope he is carrying a knock and not just being bombed out). Small thing, but it does now appear that Diaby's ommission last week vs Blackpool was political to prove a point.

Snodgrass om debut though with Grosicki starting too and maybe O'Shea at right back.

Hamstring injury for Diangana - happened in training yesterday.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 11:42:23 AM
Chapman from the brum mail confirmed Johnstone and Phillips were Covid.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 11:42:35 AM
Hamstring injury for Diangana - happened in training yesterday.

Fair enough
Title: Re: Team
Post by: wba1993dave on January 16, 2021, 11:43:38 AM
Captain fantastico and Sawyers in the middle  :-X




Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:44:00 AM
No Harper on bench.  So only Krov (not fancied by manager) or Field (match fit?) as options.  And that is the strength of our squad.   In fact that bench, in the PL, tells you everythingyou need to know  although it is good to see Field and HRK back.

Harper played yesterday and didn't feature in the cup team. Safe to say Big Sam doesn't fancy him.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: ashn on January 16, 2021, 11:44:55 AM
Rumours are that Johnstone and Phillips have Covid.

Looking at the 2 teams any optimism I had has gone

Confirmed they have covid. We have a game on Tuesday so will they be back???
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
Harper played yesterday and didn't feature in the cup team. Safe to say Big Sam doesn't fancy him.

Ah ok. Not surprising.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 16, 2021, 11:46:43 AM
Confirmed they have covid. We have a game on Tuesday so will they be back???
It seems very unlikely that they'll be able to play on Tuesday.

Hopefully Grosicki would still have got the nod even if Diangana was fit. Fingers crossed that Gros can make a point today.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 16, 2021, 11:47:23 AM
Sawyer's and Livermore together . Help us now.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 11:47:59 AM
It seems very unlikely that they'll be able to play on Tuesday.

The club has also confirmed that Diangana is out injured. Hopefully Grosicki would still have got the nod even if Diangana was fit. Hopefully Gros can make a point today.

We had 2 positive cases prior to the Blackpool game so i'd suggest Johnstone and Phillips (who both missed that game) were positive then. They might still make Tuesday.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 11:48:26 AM
Looking at the bench, i can’t really argue with the side he’s chosen today.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 11:48:38 AM
SJ and Phillips out due to COVID confirmed.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 11:49:42 AM
Not got much hope for today.  Traore is going to have a field day down that side.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 11:50:31 AM
Probably as good a team as we can put out  :(
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Norfolk Baggie on January 16, 2021, 11:51:06 AM
Have to say I am not expecting much.  But I live in hope rather than expectation.  Not having Johnstone is a big miss.  Button will be busy.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: buzzingbaggie on January 16, 2021, 11:51:41 AM
Not got much hope for today.  Traore is going to have a field day down that side.

Yep, this scares me, if he has an end product this could be a massacre.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:52:31 AM
Not got much hope for today.  Traore is going to have a field day down that side.

What side? He's playing up front.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 11:52:35 AM
Sawyer's and Livermore together . Help us now.
would have played half fit Field for either of these
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on January 16, 2021, 11:54:10 AM
Odds on another Livermore sending off after the red mist descends 😟
Title: Re: Team
Post by: hardtobeat on January 16, 2021, 11:54:34 AM
Silva up front ? Traore left wing back is what I see
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 16, 2021, 11:58:08 AM
Expects HRK on around the hour mark.... Oh hang on different manager...
Title: Re: Team
Post by: MarkW on January 16, 2021, 11:58:19 AM
Silva up front ? Traore left wing back is what I see

BBC have them in a 4-3-3, with Traore wide right
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 11:58:34 AM
Draw would be great achievement here, looks like back four with four in front, Pereira in number 10 role with Robinson up top.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:59:34 AM
Their OS has them reverting to what brought them to the dance. 3-5-2.

Neto and Semedo wing backs. Traore up front with the young kid.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 12:01:59 PM
Only hope is to keep it tight at back and leave no space for their wide men. They play a similar game to Arsenal get it to wide men as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 16, 2021, 12:04:08 PM
Odds on another Livermore sending off after the red mist descends 😟

Yes that or a controversial VAR sending off.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: frazzle on January 16, 2021, 12:08:21 PM
Desperate for Sawyers to do well but even I would have dropped him today for Field. I’d argue Krov gets about the pitch and closes down better than Sawyers so I’d have even played Krov ahead of Sawyers.

Nothing would make me happier if he proves me wrong though.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 12:14:03 PM
I wonder what time I’ll be turning over this week see if we can make it past the first half.

That team looks absolutely dire if Field is fit enough to make the bench he should have gone into the starting 11, no way Sawyer’s should be starting at the moment.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on January 16, 2021, 12:17:49 PM
Hamstring injury for Diangana - happened in training yesterday.

Which is a shame as with West Ham coming up Grady would have probably put in a performance
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBArgo on January 16, 2021, 12:21:20 PM
I would have gone for Field today, good engine and West Brom fan - would have been like a terrier in the middle.
Just please put in a good performance, I would snatch your hand off at a draw just don't embarrass me please.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 12:23:19 PM
Having not played them for nine years, I wonder how many of our current team fully appreciate what this match means to the fans?

Going by the vile game, very little.

But I really do hope they prove me wrong and at least put in a battling performance that demonstrates pride and not one of abject surrender

COYB!!!!
That's what I think alot of the media underestimate. For most of the players, who come from other parts of the country, or from abroad, its just another game.  Which in once sense it is, as we need points whether they come from this game or next Tuesday v West Ham.  Obviously SA is one person who fully understands the significance of the Black Country derby, but he's not playing!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 12:25:14 PM
Big blow losing Johnstone as he will be giving defence confidence at the moment, but really pleased about Grosicki. This is his big chance. He has to grab it.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: mank baggie on January 16, 2021, 12:26:26 PM
We arre due a win COYB
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 12:29:55 PM
You may or may not be pleased to know I won't feature on here until ht as I'm watching on Sky Go which is about 45 seconds delay. Hopefully next time I post we're still competing in the game  :-X
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 12:31:05 PM
Come on Albion! Give us something to smile about!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:36:16 PM
Slow to push out from the corner letting Wolves have an easy early shot there, keeper makes comfortable save.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:38:30 PM
Some good attacking so far, penalty for us!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
He's trod on his foot, right on the line.  The line is in the box.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 12:39:32 PM
Penalty. To us. Wow ! 0-1
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 12:39:39 PM
wow we get a good VAR decision 1-0
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
0-1 MP. Get in!  We had some decent play before that around their box and we're not sitting as deep.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 12:41:29 PM
GET IN!

Good start
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: kris_boing on January 16, 2021, 12:41:32 PM
Get in.  Good start and deserved lead.  Keep it up Albion.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
O'Shea needed to put his foot through it there, not try and dribble it out past 2 or 3 Wolves players.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 12:42:01 PM
Buzzing
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 12:42:43 PM
Sawyers ffs.

What on earth was that, always dangling a leg instead of actually making a challenge
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on January 16, 2021, 12:44:16 PM
Dingle pages are in meltdown already..🤪
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:45:04 PM
Clear foul on the keeper by Silva that stopped Button from collecting it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:46:38 PM
Commentator keepers getting the black Wolves players mixed up around Traore.  Traore is built like a brick **** house - how do you get him confused with someone else?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 12:46:52 PM
Clear foul on the keeper by Silva that stopped Button from collecting it.

Not for me. Keepers have a strong advantage, Button has to go through the kid to claim the ball. Weak keeping but got away with it
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 12:46:59 PM
another decision going our way, Gibbs handball but VAR not interested!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 12:47:33 PM
any decision going our way, Gibbs handball but VAR not interested!
Big sams brown envelopes must of made their way to stockley park  :D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 12:48:25 PM
Big sams brown envelopes must of made their way to stockley park  :D

you may well be correct! (allegedly)
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: fatboy_coach on January 16, 2021, 12:48:59 PM
Great workrate by Snodgrass to get back and tidy up, he needs to get a few of the others to show such desire at times!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 12:49:25 PM
Young Silva putting himself about and trying to bully Semi and Kyle
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: SC_Baggie on January 16, 2021, 12:49:57 PM
They are getting a few too many shots off on goal
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: fatboy_coach on January 16, 2021, 12:50:00 PM
Buttons getting a bit too much practice at the moment for my liking
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 12:51:12 PM
Closing down from the front is encouraging
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Wollastonbaggie on January 16, 2021, 12:52:10 PM
Wolves players always seem to be in space and are being allowed too much time on the ball. We need to stick closer.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 12:54:48 PM
But as you hear the commentators talk, the gulf between the 2 sides is huge...I've already heard, a 35 million pound signing    , a signing from Barcelona, a Belgian International, we are doing so well up to now....fair play to our players.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 12:56:01 PM
Wolves 2/1 in betting at home vs us...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: liverbaggie on January 16, 2021, 12:57:17 PM
Sounds like we’re doing well.
I like the set up
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:57:46 PM
But as you hear the commentators talk, the gulf between the 2 sides is huge...I've already heard, a 35 million pound signing    , a signing from Barcelona, a Belgian International, we are doing so well up to now....fair play to our players.

A £35m signing who isn't even their first choice normally.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 12:57:54 PM
Don't want to jinx us but we look good today, seem to be keeping the ball a lot better and look a lot more organised.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 12:58:35 PM
A £35m signing who isn't even their first choice normally.
lol....absolutely
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:59:03 PM
Under a lot of pressure at the moment. 

I wanted Button to get a good try out last season - but from the first 25 mins so far he's just as weak at crosses as SJ was last year.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: liverbaggie on January 16, 2021, 12:59:38 PM
Are we not playing in blue & white stripes today?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 12:59:53 PM
Don't want to jinx us but we look good today, seem to be keeping the ball a lot better and look a lot more organised.

Too much pressure for me at the moment, sooner or later there'll be a shot that will take a very good save.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:01:06 PM
That's 2 Sawyers has given away in less than a minute
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:01:12 PM
Sawyers can't even pass now.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tennant1wba on January 16, 2021, 01:01:46 PM
twice
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:02:15 PM
Grosicki having a good game so far.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 01:03:24 PM
Should of been two.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:03:26 PM
He was onside....should have been 2 nil
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
Robinson unlucky there, decent set piece.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:04:54 PM
Why didn't pereira bust a gut up the right then and give Snodgrass an option
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:05:01 PM
Snodgrass playing well
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 01:05:30 PM
Whats happened to this team today? We actually look like a team!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:05:50 PM
All I can hear is Sammy Lee shouting....brilliant.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:06:45 PM
Anyone seen Sawyers sprint yet?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:08:14 PM
Anyone seen Sawyers sprint yet?

Never have and don't think we ever will
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 01:08:34 PM
Anyone seen Sawyers sprint yet?
What? Ever?

No

 :D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:09:30 PM
1-1
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gerry m on January 16, 2021, 01:10:10 PM
Poor defending there!
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:10:44 PM
Very weak defending Pereira
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Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 01:10:47 PM
O Shea has to be so much better than that, big 10 mins here can’t fall to pieces.
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:11:33 PM
Wtf is wrong with Sawyers
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Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:11:51 PM
oh well that's my 2-0 prediction down the swanny. Poor defending.
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Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:13:00 PM
Since when has Willy Boly had Ronaldinho type skills, he has been pulling trick and flicks all over the park.
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Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 01:13:15 PM
Sawyers is playing on his heels and giving the ball away to cheaply and often
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Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 01:13:44 PM
All that hardwork undone by some poor defending.
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Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:14:02 PM
2-1
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:14:17 PM
Terrible defending again...
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Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 01:14:35 PM
Fallen to pieces again such a weak minded team, awful defending again.
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Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
Pereira weak challenge for their goal
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Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:14:44 PM
yet more poor defending 2-1
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Post by: gerry m on January 16, 2021, 01:14:49 PM
Poor defending there!

Awful defending again.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:14:54 PM
Another bobbling ball in the box not cleared.
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Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 01:15:15 PM
They'll be going for that 5-1 now.
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:15:17 PM
Livermore jeezus christ
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Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
Since when has Willy Boly had Ronaldinho type skills, he has been pulling trick and flicks all over the park.

Boly again  :o
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Post by: east-stand-nick on January 16, 2021, 01:16:09 PM
And now for the trademark Big Sam capitulation.
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:16:47 PM
So frustrating...its f@@%^^g basics...missed headers, clear your lines...pass to your own players....I'm losing the will
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Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 01:16:56 PM
We are just awful at the back. We need a whole new defence (well, whole new team really) in the next fortnight.
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Post by: loucanova on January 16, 2021, 01:17:15 PM
Livermore is just a pathetic footballer, simple as.
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Post by: Aztech on January 16, 2021, 01:17:21 PM
And now for the trademark Big Sam capitulation.

I thought that wasn’t supposed to happen with Allardyce in charge.
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Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 01:17:31 PM
That’s a really poor goal to concede. Normality resumed?
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:17:45 PM
You can't blame Alladyce for basic pooh mistakes.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:18:07 PM
Livermore is just a pathetic footballer, simple as.

Not sure it's his fault his neck isn't longer than it is.  More questions for O'Shea(?) who could clear it with his foot but missed it.
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Post by: sammyg on January 16, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
Gift that just keeps giving aren’t we
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Post by: east-stand-nick on January 16, 2021, 01:18:21 PM
I thought that wasn’t supposed to happen with Allardyce in charge.

Funnily enough I remember that being said too... 😉😂
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:18:36 PM
These players we broken mentally and physically weak.

Sawyers is a disgrace.
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Post by: Aztech on January 16, 2021, 01:18:39 PM
You can't blame Alladyce for basic **** mistakes.

Indeed, yet some blamed Bilic so what’s the difference
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Post by: baggybazza on January 16, 2021, 01:18:51 PM
SO ******* lightweight in midfield.......................how is Sawyers still in the team ?
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:19:00 PM
That’s a really poor goal to concede. Normality resumed?

Both goals were similar, ball bobbling around in the box and not cleared.
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Post by: gavinrussell on January 16, 2021, 01:19:06 PM
Oh well ..it was enjoyable while it lasted...
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:19:48 PM
SO ******* lightweight in midfield.......................how is Sawyers still in the team ?

About halfway through that half I really wished we had Gallagher in there instead of Sawyers.  Would have made a massive difference today.

Sawyers defends like a ghost.
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Post by: Oldbury24 on January 16, 2021, 01:20:03 PM
We are just awful at the back. We need a whole new defence (well, whole new team really) in the next fortnight.

We do,  but ain't going to happen is it?  And if we don't it will be this....rinse and repeat.....until BS walks.  I keep putting "really hope I'm wrong" at the end of my posts but......
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Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:20:32 PM
Big second half coming up for sure, not beyond us but we need to defend better.
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Post by: Dexy on January 16, 2021, 01:20:41 PM
Sawyers might not be a dm but no excuse for his poor passing
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:20:54 PM
Not sure it's his fault his neck isn't longer than it is.  More questions for O'Shea(?) who could clear it with his foot but missed it.

Oshea hasn't been great granted but that one, Livermores gone for it and missed it....he was stood right behind him, he would have needed ninja reactions to move that quick.
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Post by: buzzingbaggie on January 16, 2021, 01:21:05 PM
Not sure it's his fault his neck isn't longer than it is.  More questions for O'Shea(?) who could clear it with his foot but missed it.

Just kick it then, whatever it takes just get it away.

Just don't do that!!!!
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Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 01:21:16 PM
Bartley has played well and O’Shea has tried. The rest of the back four are pathetic. Gibbs is the ultimate can’t be bothered loser.
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Post by: richjonawba on January 16, 2021, 01:21:19 PM
Really don’t think I can watch Sawyers for much longer. Strolling around giving the ball away under absolutely no pressure. The good balls like that one over to Snodgrass don’t make up for his sauntering and complete lack of defensive nous.
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Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 01:21:19 PM
We do,  but ain't going to happen is it?  And if we don't it will be this....rinse and repeat.....until BS walks.  I keep putting "really hope I'm wrong" at the end of my posts but......

Oh the rest of the season will just be a painful procession, sadly.
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Post by: smethwickw on January 16, 2021, 01:21:23 PM
You can't blame Alladyce for basic **** mistakes.

People blamed Bilic for similar. Big Sam is getting the same. Players are simply not good enough whoever is in charge.
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Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 01:21:27 PM
Don’t think I’ve ever seen such a weak minded set of players in my life you just knew we’d conceed again. Sawyer’s & Livermore have been awful as has O’Shea, Semi’s getting bullied off the ball by an 18 year old kid. We desperately need more in like Snodgrass puts himself about and doesn’t shirk it like the rest of them.
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Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 01:21:30 PM
We were playing so well up to those 2 goals. We need to be more intensive and decisive in our own box. But we can still get something out of this, as Woilves are definitely vulnerable at the back. Just a pity our bench is so weak.
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Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:21:50 PM
How much doom and gloom  :-\

Still in this

Playing well aswell, look like a team again.

It was poor by Livermore on that clearance

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Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
That's all folks!

Comedy defending again, Livermore nearly headbutted his own knee.
Sawyers is pathetic, weak, arrogant and lazy and now he can't pass either. Not what you need when backs to the wall, wouldn't care if he never played again for us.
Gibbs pinching a living, has no desire whatsoever.

Never get the luck of the drop in the box though, both goals just dropped perfect for them.

Think 5 or 6 is possible now, we will collapse again.
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Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 01:22:27 PM
Player's ain't good enough simple as, two awful goals to concede Pereira weak at back post and Livermore ducks down to flick ball on, Semi bambi on ice.
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Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:22:35 PM
Its hard to stomach because we've played ok yet Wolves really haven't had to work to turn around our lead. And that's the killer blow for me. We are so easy to score against. Very rarely a hard or well worked goal against us.
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Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 01:22:48 PM
Positives, Snodgrass is a good addition makes some good decisions and looks like him and MP could form something.

Negatives, defending simple balls. It’s not even as if Wolves have put us under serious pressure we just can’t defend simple crosses. Basic stuff. It’s okay getting Big Sam in but the players just aren’t good enough.
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:22:55 PM
Indeed, yet some blamed Bilic so what’s the difference

The difference is common sense...I didn't blame Bilic for players making magic mistakes either....
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Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 01:23:22 PM
Battled but look so out of our depth. I nearly had money on a Silva goal today. No goal from open play all season, Wolves fans fuming that he was starting again, but we have always been a charity ready to give a helping hand to out of form footballers (see Benteke for Palace earlier this season). O'Shea weak as urine for the first goal and Livermore, O'Shea and Ajayi combined for the second.

2 goals in the first half, Allardyce can't get this defence into any form of shape. I didn't think Bilic's defence was good enough but Allardyce's might just be the worst i've ever seen.
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Post by: MarkW on January 16, 2021, 01:23:37 PM
Bartley has played well and O’Shea has tried. The rest of the back four are pathetic. Gibbs is the ultimate can’t be bothered loser.

Not sure how much Gibbs has done wrong? He's up against Traore who will cause havoc for most full backs. Should have done better with his volley at the end, but it was a tough chance
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Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:23:39 PM
I know us so well, as soon as Wolves went 2/1 in the betting I lumped on as I just dont trust us and we have just obliged. So predictable  :(
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Post by: RedHead_Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:23:53 PM
Indeed, yet some blamed Bilic so what’s the difference

The difference is Bilic got away with it since December 2019
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:24:00 PM
Thought we competed well for 35 minutes. Then two poor errors first Pereira then the woeful Livermore give our keeper and defenders no chance. Sawyers has also been awful.

We know this though, Gallagher and a new DM signing in centre midfield transforms this team.

Plenty of time yet but this lot are so fragile mentally if the D1ngle5 get a 3rd it could be anything.

Robinson being shown how to play the lone striker role by an 18 year old kid.
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Post by: Ross on January 16, 2021, 01:24:05 PM
Silva must be 10 stone wet through. So poor from o shea. Not strong enough
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:24:14 PM
People are being harsh on Gibbs - Traore is an absolute beast and probably the quickest player in the league as well as built like a body builder.  Livermore has done well to get back and help Gibbs out at times.  Gibbs also has got forward and been involved in our attacking play.  For me, O'Shea has been far weaker, caught in possession dribbling it out, muscled off the ball constantly, and nothing at all going forward.
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 01:24:49 PM
I think we’re still in this game - there’s been a few occasions where we’ve got in and behind them.

The goals are so basic - players incapable of clearing their lines.

Don’t get me started on Sawyers.
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:24:59 PM
Back 4 has all played well. Let down by the 2 in front of them.
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Post by: Aztech on January 16, 2021, 01:25:20 PM
The difference is Bilic got away with it since December 2019

That maybe, however as I have said on numerous occasions if you don’t make wholesale changes to the playing squad expect the same every week irrespective as to who is head coach.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on January 16, 2021, 01:26:00 PM
It was a nice whilist it lasted. I looked at todays team and feared the worst. When Gibbs, Livermore , Sawyers are still in this team were stuffed.
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Post by: sammyg on January 16, 2021, 01:26:12 PM
Sawyers really should be subbed at half time. He’s so poor.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:26:19 PM
Robinson being shown how to play the lone striker role by an 18 year old kid.

A £35m 18 year old, hardly a surprise is it and says more about how weak O'Shea and Ajayi are physically more than anything else.

For me, Robinson has defended well from up top, was unlucky not to get a second (did brilliantly to get something on it), and chased down quite well.
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:26:39 PM
It was a nice whilist it lasted. I looked at todays team and feared the worst. When Gibbs, Livermore , Sawyers are still in this team were stuffed.

Gibbs having a good game.
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Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 01:27:04 PM
The question is have we the mental resilience to battle our way back into the game.  We can certainly get in behind them, but will our defence hold out? 
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Post by: iwastherein68 on January 16, 2021, 01:27:10 PM
Get a grip , we are still very much in this .
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Post by: rogerstubbs on January 16, 2021, 01:27:26 PM
We have played reasonably well ,shame about the late goals ,big second half to stay in the game not capitulate and play well.
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Post by: Dexy on January 16, 2021, 01:27:57 PM
Weak from Pereira for the first , not much better from O'Shea.
Terrible from Livermore for the 2nd.
Have to say apart from that we've played well and passed the ball much better apart from Romaine .
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Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 01:28:09 PM
Far better full backs have been torn a new one by Traore. Gibbs is doing alright in my opinion.

Sawyers and Livermore as your midfield two is never going to win you a game and so this season has proved it. Crying out for a quality additionto come in alongside Gallagher in there
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:28:24 PM
A £35m 18 year old, hardly a surprise is it and says more about how weak O'Shea and Ajayi are physically more than anything else.

For me, Robinson has defended well from up top, was unlucky not to get a second (did brilliantly to get something on it), and chased down quite well.

O'Shea is playing right back and playing well. Silva has dominated both centre backs as well as O’Shea for the goal. Robinson has missed his chance and seems to have lost every dual he's been in.
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Post by: Aztech on January 16, 2021, 01:28:35 PM
Get a grip , we are still very much in this .

I haven’t seen anyone suggesting we are not still in this, next goal should determine where this game is headed.
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Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 01:29:02 PM
Wish we had a stronger bench because Robinson and others are going to tire keeping up all the chasing. 
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Post by: iwastherein68 on January 16, 2021, 01:29:51 PM
Need to get Edwards on and move Snodgrass central
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Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:30:28 PM
Can't say Gibbs has stood out as poor to me. Like i said, we've actually played well and yet two moments gift them.
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Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 01:30:30 PM
Weak from Pereira for the first , not much better from O'Shea.
Terrible from Livermore for the 2nd.
Have to say apart from that we've played well and passed the ball much better apart from Romaine .

If this is us playing well then we really are stuffed. Inability to clear the ball, to defend the box, to retain possession or to stop the opposition working out keeper from 20 yards out. Wolves have 8 shots that half and we have already conceded 2 with 45 minutes to go.
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Post by: frazzle on January 16, 2021, 01:30:38 PM
O’Shea and Livermore at fault for the goals. But overall we are slightly less shocking than usual. Robinson working hard.
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:30:52 PM
I haven’t seen anyone suggesting we are not still in this, next goal should determine where this game is headed.

We are still in this right now but we all know the issue is even if we score 2, can anyone honestly not see Wolves scoring in the 2nd half.
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Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 01:30:56 PM
Genuinely though, how can Sawyers say he’s an Albion fan.
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Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 01:31:12 PM
Robinson is not a centre forward, not his fault he’s being asked to play that role. By far the worst player for us so far is Sawyers. Just dreadful.
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Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 01:31:21 PM
Impressed with Snodgrass, has a football brain and can pick a pass. Also Grosicki has the pace to cause them problems, even if his shooting a bit erratic.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:31:28 PM
Robinson has missed his chance and seems to have lost every dual he's been in.

Robinson did brilliantly to get anything on it, let alone turn it towards goal as well.  He also won the penalty, and has been involved up top for us when we've had possession up there. 

Not sure why you're comparing him to a £35m rated wonderkid from Portugal?
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Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 01:31:37 PM
We are still in this right now but we all know the issue is even if we score 2, can anyone honestly not see Wolves scoring in the 2nd half.

It will be a surprise if wolves don’t get another couple of goals.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:32:11 PM
Impressed with Snodgrass, has a football brain and can pick a pass. Also Grosicki has the pace to cause them problems, even if his shooting a bit erratic.

Yeah, I thought Snodgrass has shown some excellent touches, his first touch has been far better than most of our squad.
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Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 01:32:17 PM
Robinson did brilliantly to get anything on it, let alone turn it towards goal as well.  He also won the penalty, and has been involved up top for us when we've had possession up there. 

Not sure why you're comparing him to a £35m rated wonderkid from Portugal?

He doesn’t like Robinson so he’ll slate him at every opportunity.
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:32:34 PM
Genuinely though, how can Sawyers say he’s an Albion fan.

You can still be a fan but not good enough to play for them.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:32:49 PM
It will be a surprise if wolves don’t get another couple of goals.

I fancy us to get another one.
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Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:32:53 PM
Played well and looked good pressing high but as soon as we scored they decided to stop pressing and sat back and try to defend for 80 minutes.
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Post by: Dexy on January 16, 2021, 01:33:28 PM
If this is us playing well then we really are stuffed. Inability to clear the ball, to defend the box, to retain possession or to stop the opposition working out keeper from 20 yards out. Wolves have 8 shots that half and we have already conceded 2 with 45 minutes to go.
Well I keep reading all Sams side do is smash it long , they have mostly passed the ball well.
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Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 01:33:35 PM
You can still be a fan but not good enough to play for them.

I’m getting at the lack of effort he puts in. Just strolls around misplacing passes chewing gum
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Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 01:33:42 PM
Ajayi also very disappointing. Getting bullied physically by players half his size.
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Post by: RedHead_Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:33:48 PM
A £35m 18 year old, hardly a surprise is it and says more about how weak O'Shea and Ajayi are physically more than anything else.

For me, Robinson has defended well from up top, was unlucky not to get a second (did brilliantly to get something on it), and chased down quite well.

He might be ok at chasing lost causes and doing his bit in the defensive third but primarily he is in the team to score goals just like any other striker for any other club.

2 goals in 17 appearances is appalling and another reason why we can't win a game of football. 
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Post by: SirTonyM on January 16, 2021, 01:34:01 PM
You only have to look at our bench to see how weak the squad is. honestly that bench looks so weak in the championship.
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Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 01:34:12 PM
We ARE still in this. Only if we get the next goal though; if they get another past us I think we will crumble.

Defensively naive but Sawyers and Livermore are the main problem. We need options over them.
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Post by: wodenson46 on January 16, 2021, 01:34:20 PM
A £35m 18 year old, hardly a surprise is it and says more about how weak O'Shea and Ajayi are physically more than anything else.

For me, Robinson has defended well from up top, was unlucky not to get a second (did brilliantly to get something on it), and chased down quite well.

you forget that if Albion players ever 'put themselves about' like that 18 year old they get booked and sent off - especially by this ref. Ajayi already booked for a pull on the shoulder of deddonkey because he 'made the most of it' whilst real elbows and shoves in the back are deemed legal if you are not in blue and white stripes
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:34:25 PM
You can still be a fan but not good enough to play for them.


Yep, this is what it would be like if I was playing for us.
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Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 01:34:44 PM
You can still be a fan but not good enough to play for them.
His lack of fight or commitment is shocking though. If any of us got on that pitch we could do better on passion alone.
He's so weak and lazy it's pathetic.
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:35:39 PM
He doesn’t like Robinson so he’ll slate him at every opportunity.

I think he's a perfectly acceptable back up attacking midfielder.

This wonderkid has just scored his first goal for them at home and is derided by their fans.
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:36:05 PM
He might be ok at chasing lost causes and doing his bit in the defensive third but primarily he is in the team to score goals just like any other striker for any other club.

2 goals in 17 appearances is appalling and another reason why we can't win a game of football.

How many chances has he missed this game that you think he should have scored?  The one that he stretched to get a toe on it?  That's been pretty much his only chance - it's not like we're creating clear chances for him like we did with Rondon.



Yet another corner causing mayhem in the box. 
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:37:02 PM
I think he's a perfectly acceptable back up attacking midfielder.

This wonderkid has just scored his first goal for them at home and is derided by their fans.

Just tells you how little Wolves fans know about football. 
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Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 01:38:44 PM
They smell blood now.
I can't see us getting out of  our half.
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Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 01:39:12 PM
Boly is reminding me of Brede Hangeland, where he caused us all sorts of trouble a few years ago from corners.
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:39:34 PM
Our defending is an insult to Sunday League scrappers nationwide.
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Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:39:51 PM
2-2
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Post by: gavinrussell on January 16, 2021, 01:40:04 PM
SEMI !!!!!!!!
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Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:40:09 PM
Long throw works - flick on and Ajayi loops it over keeper.
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Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:40:13 PM
2-2 ajayi get in
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Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 01:40:22 PM
Get him upfront come on Seimi
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Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:40:30 PM
Get in Albion
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Oh jeez....we've only gone and equalised
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Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 01:40:39 PM
Great header Ajayi
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Post by: gerry m on January 16, 2021, 01:40:45 PM
Iv'e just screamed yes at the telly!
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:41:07 PM
GET IN. Semi. Just put him up front.
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Post by: east-stand-nick on January 16, 2021, 01:41:16 PM
HAHAHA YESSSSS. Make me eat those words!
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Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 01:41:20 PM
He just keeps doing it
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Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:41:56 PM
Crikey!

There are more goals in this

What is the tactic we've been using with getting him forward in open play?
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Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:42:11 PM
Come on...be strong now
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 01:42:15 PM
Shame he can’t defend, but he’s getting some big goals
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 01:42:17 PM
Neither side can defend!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
Penalty again?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:42:59 PM
Another Pen
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:43:07 PM
We can't lose 5-1 now so that's something
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 01:43:15 PM
Great work by both centre halves for that goal
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 01:43:21 PM
May as well stick him up there with Robinson off him.
This long throw stuff is nice.

Penna
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 01:43:33 PM
Get Sawyers off ffs I do not care who for.

Semedo just walks past him there
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:43:44 PM
penalty, Pereira 2-3.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
2-3
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:43:49 PM
Crikey!

There are more goals in this

What is the tactic we've been using with getting him forward in open play?

We've pushed him and bartley up for the long throw.  To be fair, for quite a few games under Bilic towards the end he would step out of the 5 at the back into the midfield to close down the opposition number 10 or striker when they drop deep..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:43:57 PM
Yyyeeeesssss
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:44:00 PM
2-3 GET IN
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:44:18 PM
Another pen.  :o
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:44:22 PM
Come on Albion

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gerry m on January 16, 2021, 01:44:46 PM
Iv'e just screamed yes at the telly!

Iv;e done it again!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:44:51 PM
That's cool from Pereira
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 01:45:00 PM
Here we go
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:45:28 PM
Crikey!

There are more goals in this

What is the tactic we've been using with getting him forward in open play?

I really like that, he has the pace and passing to make it work.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: kris_boing on January 16, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
Unbelievable.  Whats going on?  This could be any score. 
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Soft penalty but couldn’t care less!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:46:14 PM
Superb ticker from Pereira after last week. Just hold on now. Doesn’t matter how ugly it is.

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:46:17 PM
I've just done a huge silent scream as the wife is teaching a dance class on Zoom in the next room
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 01:46:24 PM
Oh you absolute beauties!

Come on Big Sam's Baggie Army!!!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:46:35 PM
We've pushed him and bartley up for the long throw.  To be fair, for quite a few games under Bilic towards the end he would step out of the 5 at the back into the midfield to close down the opposition number 10 or striker when they drop deep..

Didn't mean for the throws i meant just in open play he's been joining a lot of attacks.

I can't cope with this game!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:46:35 PM
Brilliant game this is

Still a way to go though
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on January 16, 2021, 01:46:38 PM
Dingles have improved over the 9 years ..so I will happily take 5-2 today..🤣
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 01:46:43 PM
COME ON YOU BAGGIES
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:47:32 PM
Dingles have improved over the 9 years ..so I will happily take 5-2 today..🤣

Brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 01:47:44 PM
Sawyers bottled not smashing that
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2021, 01:47:58 PM
What a game, can't call this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: fatboy_coach on January 16, 2021, 01:48:22 PM
Bloody love Snodgrass! So much energy
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:48:31 PM
Poor from Sawyers that shot was

No conviction at all
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:48:35 PM
Sawyers is soooooo poor.  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:48:37 PM
Let's be fair though, Sawyers passing has dramatically improved 2nd half
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 01:48:56 PM
That effort summed Sawyers up
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: SC_Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:49:11 PM
Sawyers bottled not smashing that

The announcers here in the US said "probably the wrong man for it to fall to" and I was like YEP
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 01:49:14 PM
Sawyers, bloody hell. Good chance that
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:49:17 PM
Unbelievable.  Whats going on?  This could be any score.

Yeah, every goal has been sort of **** and hilarious at the same time.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 01:49:37 PM
Well I keep reading all Sams side do is smash it long , they have mostly passed the ball well.
Defending higher up the pitch has allowed us to do that, IMO. If you're constantly under pressure because you're defending on your own 18 yard line, booting it away must be very appealing.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 01:49:50 PM
I’ve always thought our games against Wolves are decent football matches, but against the vile they are awful footballing games
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:50:14 PM
Robinson playing well
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:50:41 PM
Robinson has to hit the target there
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:50:48 PM
He's won the 2 pens but has to do better with these chances.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 01:50:51 PM
Robinson for f sake
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:50:58 PM
Defending higher up the pitch has allowed us to do that, IMO. If you're constantly under pressure because you're defending on your own 18 yard line, booting it away must be very appealing.

Yeah, we're closing them down, sometimes in their half - it works much better as we have players further up the pitch when we do turn over possession.

Robinson should have done better there with that chance.  Should at least be on target.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 01:52:05 PM
He’s had two very good scoring opportunities has Robinson, you must take them to win games
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
Just a thought, but Pereira; should he get a hat-trick he could mimic Odemwingie's celebration and become an instant legend...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:52:57 PM
shame they've taken Coady off....very much the weak link in their defence.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:53:11 PM
This is a massive half an hour in our season.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:53:32 PM
He’s had two very good scoring opportunities has Robinson, you must take them to win games

Still done much better than Grant and has won 2 pens...he'll do for me.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:54:06 PM
He’s had two very good scoring opportunities has Robinson, you must take them to win games

Two?  Are you calling the one that he got a toe on the end a "very good opportunity"?  That's ridiculous - he did brilliantly just to direct it towards goal.

The second one was a bit of a chance, had 2 defenders on him by the time he took his shot on.  I wouldn't say he should score - but he should have hit the target.  He's easily the best we have up there at the moment.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:54:12 PM
Field must half 30 mins in him. Sawyers keeps giving it away.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:54:16 PM
Just a thought, but Pereira; should he get a hat-trick he could mimic Odemwingie's celebration and become an instant legend...

Starts praying 🙏
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 01:54:19 PM
Bartley has done well.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 01:54:56 PM
Two?  Are you calling the one that he got a toe on the end a "very good opportunity"?  That's ridiculous - he did brilliantly just to direct it towards goal.

The second one was a bit of a chance, had 2 defenders on him by the time he took his shot on.  I wouldn't say he should score - but he should have hit the target.  He's easily the best we have up there at the moment.

You're the only person who doesn't think it's a good chance.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:55:03 PM
Field must half 30 mins in him. Sawyers keeps giving it away.

Yep, Field can't do any worse.  I'd let Sawyers take a good hit on Fabio, pick up his yellow, then sub him.  :P
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: fatboy_coach on January 16, 2021, 01:55:07 PM
Their 17 must be due a booking, lots of niggley fouls
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 01:55:11 PM
I wasn’t a Robinson fan but he’s done well this season. His overall game has been much better then I thought but besides the goals against Chelsea his finishing leaves a lot to be desired.

We need his energy though in this side, he’s not our problem. Sawyers, Livermore, ajayi (defensively) are.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Plastic Paddy on January 16, 2021, 01:55:15 PM
Whatever happens in the next 25mins, today has been a massive improvement on the last few weeks!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 01:55:46 PM
Just a thought, but Pereira; should he get a hat-trick he could mimic Odemwingie's celebration and become an instant legend...

Yep, I'll take that!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:56:15 PM
You're the only person who doesn't think it's a good chance.

it's headed through about 8 yards away from him, he's managed to get just the toe of his boot on the ball and directed it towards goal.  No way on earth is that a good chance.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:56:26 PM
Kanu about to come on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 01:57:03 PM
Love Snodgrass....you can see him geeing up everyone.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 01:57:26 PM
it's headed through about 8 yards away from him, he's managed to get just the toe of his boot on the ball and directed it towards goal.  No way on earth is that a good chance.

You’re right..it’s not a good chance.

It’s a GREAT one
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 01:57:36 PM
Whatever happens in the next 25mins, today has been a massive improvement on the last few weeks!

Yep, agreed.

HRK coming on for Gros.  Robinson back out wide then?  Seems risky has Robinson has done a lot of running.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: SC_Baggie on January 16, 2021, 01:58:50 PM
What a ghastly idea for a sub
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 01:59:09 PM
I'm so bloody nervous.

The commentator talking about HRK's goal V Belgium - he's made a living off that...from WBA!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 02:00:02 PM
What a ghastly idea for a sub

I can see the logic in it with some the play from Snod and Pereira. He's due his annual worldie isn't he?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:00:48 PM
Bartley has to do better there.  He's dropped off further and further letting Silva shoot.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:01:11 PM
What a freaking waste of space Sawyers is.

I'd rather put a lamppost in his place.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 02:01:39 PM
What a freaking waste of space Sawyers is.

I'd rather put a lamppost in his place.
Bottled about 3 challenges then
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:02:08 PM
Bottled about 3 challenges then

We have to get rid.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:05:51 PM
Snodgrass is the business!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:06:12 PM
Snodgrass is the business!!

He’s been excellent today
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 02:06:46 PM
Cutrone is exactly the type of forward we gift a goal too   
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 02:07:20 PM
Need Field on for Sawyers PLEASE
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:07:38 PM
Come on lads, 15 mins to go.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:07:49 PM
He’s been excellent today


Absolutely. Heart's in my mouth though this last patch....
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 02:07:59 PM
Need Field on for Sawyers PLEASE

Stop shouting. Bawl it out
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:08:21 PM
HRK not even touched the ball yet and is just giving fouls away.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:10:11 PM
Should be 3-3, what a miss.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
Furlong on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:11:49 PM
They just walk past Sawyers.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 02:12:38 PM
Defending has been as bad second half as it was at times in the first, but we have got away with it thanks to Wolves poor finishing. If we win, it will be very similar to the Sheff Utd game.

I'd take it though.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:14:05 PM
Stop giving cheap fouls away ffs.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:14:25 PM
This is nerve wracking!!!!!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:14:43 PM
Great block from Bartley as Sawyers bottled yet another challenge.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 16, 2021, 02:14:52 PM
Feel like switching formation might cost us as we can't defend. I know we should be going more defensive but only works if your defenders defend, we never look good when we go 5 at the back. Just need to hang on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbadazza on January 16, 2021, 02:14:58 PM
Get ***** Sawyers off....he's just a passenger
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 02:15:03 PM
Bartley screaming at Sawyers
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 02:15:36 PM
Bartley the pick of the defence today
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 02:15:47 PM
Jesus Christ Sawyers is pathetic.
Bartley though, that's a bloke you want in the trenches.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 16, 2021, 02:15:54 PM
Bartley screaming at Sawyers
Drag sawyers - Bartley throwing his body in sawyers turned his back
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 02:16:06 PM
Romaine Sawyers is an absolute disgrace
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:16:19 PM
Body on the line then Bartley...

Sometimes it’s all we ask as fans
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 02:16:22 PM
Bartley brilliant, Sawyers can just **** off.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 02:16:43 PM
Bartley there very rightly giving Sawyers pelters!!

Can't believe this guy.

Come on Albion, this is it. Biggest 5 minutes or so of the season
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:17:33 PM
I just saw a Lesser Spotted Sawyers run!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 02:17:46 PM
Who's this Peira guy that has MOTM?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 02:17:52 PM
Feel like switching formation might cost us as we can't defend. I know we should be going more defensive but only works if your defenders defend, we never look good when we go 5 at the back. Just need to hang on.
Yeah. You'd think either Field or Krov on for Sawyers would be the move. Krov's not really a defensive mid player, but he's a bit better at that aspect than Sawyers.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gerry m on January 16, 2021, 02:18:51 PM
Jog on back to Porto Silva. Cheat!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:20:02 PM
Bartley the pick of the defence today

Absolutely
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 16, 2021, 02:20:19 PM
Make a sub to waste time!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: kris_boing on January 16, 2021, 02:20:30 PM
All Wolves at the minute.  Come on lads hold on....
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 16, 2021, 02:21:00 PM
Jog on back to Porto Silva. Cheat!

Packet of Custard Creams, the lot of em.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
Great ball from Robinson and good run from Hal.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 02:21:18 PM
We've actually had decent refereeing decision today  :o
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 02:21:44 PM
Bartley has to play. I’ve never rated him, but I’m beginning to wonder if he’s been disadvantaged by his partners and our managers. 

Ajayi defensively has attributes bu just doesn’t defend well. Dawson had critics, Ivanovic has been poor, hegazi was decent at times and poor others.... I wonder.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
Won !!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2021, 02:22:41 PM
yes 2-3!! Going to enjoy the Guinness in my fridge now!...and then some whisky!

 Pro or Anti Allardyce let's all just enjoy the night.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 02:22:49 PM
Robinson brilliant today, particularly this last 10 mins
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 02:22:57 PM
GET INNN
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:23:03 PM
Get in!
 You can see how much it means to the players.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:23:11 PM
BAAAAGGGGIIIIEESS
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:23:33 PM
Robinson brilliant today, particularly this last 10 mins

That's why I like him - he's not the best striker in the world (but the best we've got), but you can use him in different areas of the pitch and get good performances out of him.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on January 16, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
Very pleased with the win, hopefully we can build on it from here on in.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 02:24:54 PM
They just can't beat us can they 🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😂😂😂.

Pereira, Bartley and Robinson brilliant. We allowed far too many chances and have got a bit lucky today but I couldn't care less.

Get in.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:25:22 PM
Fantastic win...

Heading over to Mol mix for a gander  ;D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 02:25:26 PM
yes 2-3!! Going to enjoy the Guinness in my fridge now!...and then some whisky!

 Pro or Anti Allardyce let's all just enjoy the night.
Agreed! (On almost all of that, but I'm lacking the Guinness. A decent Islay is calling me though  :P )
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 02:25:27 PM
Yes BOING BOING beating Dingles since 1878
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: richjonawba on January 16, 2021, 02:25:41 PM
Wow. Didn’t see that coming. Very good start to the second half. Pereira needs to be in the middle every game for the rest of the season. Boing boing!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 16, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
THAT HAS MADE MY ******* SEASON!!!

COME ON YOU BAGGIES!!

🔵⚪️🔵⚪️🔵⚪️⚽️⚽️⚽️🔵⚪️🔵⚪️🔵⚪️
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:26:23 PM
They just can't beat us can they 🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😂😂😂.

Pereira, Bartley and Robinson brilliant. We allowed far too many chances and have got a bit lucky today but I couldn't care less.

Get in.

Totally, agree - will take that seeing out recent results.  I thought Bartley was man of the match.  Too many chances given to Wolves and some weak defending. 

HUGE improvement though.  Thought Sam got his subs spot on, we didn't concede many chances in the last 15.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: dangerman on January 16, 2021, 02:26:25 PM
Wolves with their best Squad in probably 40 years and ours with probably our worst in 20 years and they still can’t beat us.

Lovely!  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2021, 02:26:32 PM
What a result!

Disseminating that can wait until tomorrow, just enjoy it!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 02:26:36 PM
Absolutely vital 3 points. Well done Sam, well done everyone!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 16, 2021, 02:26:41 PM
Yaaaaaaay!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 02:26:55 PM
W2lv3s lol
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 16, 2021, 02:27:23 PM
How **** must they be we’re winning away  :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 02:27:27 PM
got a bit lucky today but I couldn't care less.
We were due it, I think!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pie on January 16, 2021, 02:27:29 PM
BOING BOING!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh if only we could be there, slap a dingle!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 02:27:31 PM
So bloody gutted I missed this. Had to leave for house viewing as soon as Ajayi equalised. Did we deserve I don't care just asking. How did we play generally in the 2nd half etc

Cracking result. Well done lads.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 02:27:34 PM
That is massive. Follow it up on Tuesday and we're right back in it. Bartley immense. Button immense. Pereira magnificent. Did with 9 men too 👀

Cheers Big Sam Allardyce.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: slate on January 16, 2021, 02:27:39 PM
Fantastic win...

Heading over to Mol mix for a gander  ;D

Report back squadron leader
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mulliganstired on January 16, 2021, 02:27:57 PM
11 points behind Wolves now, but you'll never make up that kind of gap  ;)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 02:28:35 PM
Firmly in the dingles heads, the tatter comparing them to Uniteds team of 92 thick 12 fingered dingle. Such a building block now need to get something Tuesday night now.

Such a shame we can’t be there to run it into the dog heads faces, bloody brilliant Albion
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 16, 2021, 02:28:51 PM
Absolutely buzzing after that, fantastic  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBArgo on January 16, 2021, 02:29:05 PM
Kyle Bartley take a bow. Give him the key to West Bromwich
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:29:12 PM
Fantastic win...

Heading over to Mol mix for a gander  ;D

And it’s epic reading  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 16, 2021, 02:29:48 PM
Hahahaha. All those millions spent and they are still in our shadow. Out of darkness, cometh pooh.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 16, 2021, 02:29:56 PM
YESS COYB The Black Country Ours Heroic Performance was playing with Dingle Friends on PS4 there trying to shrug it of but I know there hurt.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 02:30:22 PM
Nuno out has started on twitter 😆😆😆😆😆
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 02:30:38 PM
11 points behind Wolves now, but you'll never make up that kind of gap  ;)

Excellent post!

I'm so chuffed, boy i've missed this feeling!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 16, 2021, 02:30:42 PM
That's a fantastic result that should give us a superb boost. I didn't see the game, but listened to the WM commentary. It sounds like we were all over the place defensively as usual, although Bartley approached the derby in the manner in which you'd want your players to. Although Sawyers should be taken out of the side, it's clear that rest of the players at least put in a shift today.

The difference sounded like it came upfront, with both Grosicki and Snodgrass making a big difference to our goal threat. They also got mentioned several times for tracking back too. Although he didn't have his shooting boots on, Robinson caused them problems and you can't sniff at him winning 2 penalties. Hats off to Pereira for putting them both away after missing one at Blackpool.

There's certainly something to build on here, which is more than we've been able to say for a while!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:30:49 PM
Report back squadron leader

Brilliant reading mate

Calling for Nuno to go  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: SirTonyM on January 16, 2021, 02:31:41 PM
Wolves with their best Squad in probably 40 years and ours with probably our worst in 20 years and they still can’t beat us.

Lovely!  ;D

Ironically I was going to write something similar. We even gave them a chance not playing Johnstone and Gallagher and they still couldn’t beat us :)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tommcneill on January 16, 2021, 02:32:03 PM
I want to single out Snodgrass today.

His debut

Excellent game, and at the end you can see how he has already integrated into this side.

That’s why we signed him

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 16, 2021, 02:32:11 PM
Thank you God. Superb Mr Bartley. Well done lads , well done Sam,
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 02:32:52 PM
Did you see the tatter in the stand Bully Bully what's the Score???????????????
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 16, 2021, 02:33:22 PM
Deliberately missed following this game as being pessimistic didn't expect anything other than a beating although only 3-0 or so.
So to say I'm stunned but absolutely delighted with the scoreline.
I haven't read any reports or threads yet but I don't care. Happy for a change!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 16, 2021, 02:33:29 PM
At last. A WIN!!!!  ;D

We still look a bit fragile defensively but better organised and boy did they compete today.

Never been his biggest fan but last half hour how immense was Bartley? He gave every single drop for the cause cant ask any more than that.

Sawyers the worst player on the pitch.

Tonight, who cares? Finally a win and always nice to turn the Dingles over.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2021, 02:33:48 PM
Sam didnt look much of a wolves fan to me :)

Superb result.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Political Cake on January 16, 2021, 02:33:55 PM
Going down? Probably. Who cares though, they still can't beat us! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: kris_boing on January 16, 2021, 02:34:14 PM
Fantastic win.  Chuffed to bits.  Couldn't be happier.  No matter how bad we've been its always great beating the Wolves. Boing Boing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 16, 2021, 02:34:22 PM
Bartley immense, Ajayi not far behind. MP great penalties. Robinson worked hard as did Grosicki.

Get Gallagher to replace Sawyers and a DM to replace Livermore. Get Gibbs support and a new RB and we might not be far away
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 16, 2021, 02:34:31 PM
I want to single out Snodgrass today.

His debut

Excellent game, and at the end you can see how he has already integrated into this side.

That’s why we signed him

He was superb.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on January 16, 2021, 02:34:46 PM
I fancied us before the game but at 2-1 my head dropped, Thank you every single one of you who played today, for making this season memorable, whatever happens.
I'm Black Country through and through, Tipton born and bred and this means the world to me. I don't mind admitting I'm close to tears :'(

I'm off to get very drunk.
Enjoy your day my ethereal Baggie buddies!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 16, 2021, 02:35:02 PM
Fantastic win...

Heading over to Mol mix for a gander  ;D
Makes for Excellent viewing haha Jokers
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BaggiePhil on January 16, 2021, 02:35:20 PM
Whats that you said "champions League in 2 seasons? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pureade1 on January 16, 2021, 02:35:56 PM
THE BLACK COUNTRYS OURS **** OFF TO STAFFORD THE BLACK COUNTRYS OURS
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
Snodgrass from what I saw in the first 50 Mins was exactly what we had been missing. A decent no-no sense footballer with some fight and backbone. More like this please Sam in terms of transfers and performances
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Tony Goddens Gloves on January 16, 2021, 02:36:25 PM
Mol mix melt down. Here’s an example lol


Just **** off Nuno. **** off. Watford semi, Sevilla QF, today, any ****ing game that means anything you choke. You’ve just been out thought by Sam ****ing Allardyce. Go. And take half the ****ing powderpuff team with you. Last 2 days you’ve spoke a good game. Just a pity you don’t play a good game.

**** off
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: cheesyknackers on January 16, 2021, 02:36:45 PM
YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 16, 2021, 02:37:04 PM
Of all the games for us to win...

All I have heard from the ***** for the past three or four seasons as they have had money pumped into them and dodgy agent connections bringing some of the best young talent in the world to them for knock down prices is how amazing they are, and they can't even beat the worst Premier League side there has been for a number of years at their own place. Hilarious.

Absolutely massive, that. We still need 5/6 players to come in but I have a slight faith Allardyce will actually attract the sort of players we need for the fight.

Romaine Sawyers is a disgrace of a bloke, mind. West Brom fan, apparently, and he puts in a performance like that against the Dingles, not putting a tackle in all game as players waltz past him. Cannot wait for us to bring in a couple of midfielders and never see the bloke again
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: richjonawba on January 16, 2021, 02:37:11 PM
Have to say Snodgrass looks a very good signing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: slate on January 16, 2021, 02:37:33 PM
Brilliant reading mate

Calling for Nuno to go  :D

I just read the pre-match chat on the Mix forum. The arrogance is astounding. 😂😂
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mikkyk on January 16, 2021, 02:37:52 PM
Mol mix melt down. Here’s an example lol


Just **** off Nuno. **** off. Watford semi, Sevilla QF, today, any ****ing game that means anything you choke. You’ve just been out thought by Sam ****ing Allardyce. Go. And take half the ****ing powderpuff team with you. Last 2 days you’ve spoke a good game. Just a pity you don’t play a good game.

**** off

Anymore examples would be much appreciated  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBArgo on January 16, 2021, 02:38:28 PM
Snodgrass was class, Grosicki still has a lot to offer too.
We need a Snodgrass-type battler for the middle and I think we will look a lot better then. A striker would be a bonus too. What a day  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 02:38:36 PM
Now, regardless of your feelings for Big Sam let’s all, unequivocally, get behind him and the boys who did us proud today and delivered, in every aspect, a result few could have imagined, I certainly didn’t COYB!!!!

You can’t help but love this club
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: dangerman on January 16, 2021, 02:39:55 PM
Twitter is full of memes at the moment and it’s hilarious.

My Wolves mate text me saying that we deserved it and he had no complaints.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheBaggieMan on January 16, 2021, 02:40:31 PM
Two games....
Dingles 3 - 8 Mighty Baggies
Amazing result
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 02:40:38 PM
Bartley absolutely superb. Just maybe a few will get off his back now? Snodgrass excellent in fact all played their part. Fantastic!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheBaggieMan on January 16, 2021, 02:41:23 PM
My emoji on the left is perfect!
😂
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 16, 2021, 02:41:30 PM
Now, regardless of your feelings for Big Sam let’s all, unequivocally, get behind him and the boys who did us proud today and delivered, in every aspect, a result few could have imagined, I certainly didn’t COYB!!!!

You can’t help but love this club

Spot on AlbionFan. I’m walking on the moon at the moment.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 16, 2021, 02:41:56 PM
My emoji on the left is perfect!
😂

Love it 😂
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 02:42:19 PM
Going to sign up on Molineux Mix as an Albion fan in peace just to wish them the best for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 16, 2021, 02:43:37 PM
3 points of safety, this would be the greatest of escapes
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Groovephil on January 16, 2021, 02:43:54 PM
Looks like Sam has worked the team out tactically, as for Snodgrass, looked like a different level to everyone else.

Jesus the Wolves fans have taken this badly.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 02:45:41 PM
Have to say Snodgrass looks a very good signing.
Yep. Had serious doubts about it, but looks like an inspired move by (small voice) Allardyce.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: dangerman on January 16, 2021, 02:47:27 PM
Which one of you has signed up on Dingle mix and suggested replacing Nuno with Mick Mcarthey?  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2021, 02:47:37 PM
Robinson lead the line well and tracked back well when he switched positions.

Bartley looked solid and a voice we have been missing.

Snodgrass looks a smart bit of business. Gives us some composure and quality.

Periera  8)

BAAAGGGIIIEEESSSS
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OhBilics on January 16, 2021, 02:47:44 PM
Going to sign up on Molineux Mix as an Albion fan in peace just to wish them the best for the rest of the season.
You're going to get lynched  ;D ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 16, 2021, 02:49:43 PM
This tops the five one, Play offs, and the Southbank Show. Wolves have spent millions and millions and trillions. Weve spent loose change in comparsion.  Oh what a wonderful day.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 02:50:08 PM
You're going to get lynched  ;D ;D

Nothing wrong with asking them a genuine question like where do they think it went wrong surely
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: smethwickw on January 16, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
What a win. Unbelievable. We looked much better balanced with Snodgrass and Grosicki out wide. Both played well. Special mention to Bartley who was immense. I think he’ll flourish under Big Sam.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 02:50:29 PM
Going to sign up on Molineux Mix as an Albion fan in peace just to wish them the best for the rest of the season.

Please don’t use AlbionFan as you forum name, they might know where I live 😂
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: dangerman on January 16, 2021, 02:50:38 PM
This tops the five one, Play offs, and the Southbank Show. Wolves have spent millions and millions and trillions. Weve spent loose change in comparsion.  Oh what a wonderful day.

That 5-1 was special though especially given what happened afterwards. Hopefully something similar happens again.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: macc_baggie on January 16, 2021, 02:51:50 PM
Not posted on here in about a year. What a win, ground it out but far better in general.

Going to enjoy today!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2021, 02:51:58 PM
Just been on the MM, it hasn't gone down well has it?  :P
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheBaggieMan on January 16, 2021, 02:52:03 PM
Dingles don’t like it up ‘em!

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/430355
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 16, 2021, 02:52:14 PM
That 5-1 was special though especially given what happened afterwards. Hopefully something similar happens again.

We won today without our two best players as well. Several others missing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on January 16, 2021, 02:52:25 PM
That 5-1 was special though especially given what happened afterwards. Hopefully something similar happens again.
How it lifts our spirit.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 16, 2021, 02:53:10 PM
Shout to Grosicky as well. Worked back really well off the ball. Better than Diangana does.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 02:53:31 PM
I thought Wolves got their tactics spot on by bombarding us with corners, but luckily we only messed up twice. I'm pleased we didn't just stick 9 men behind the ball, as otherwise we would never have scored 3 times. Maybe Sam is not as defensive as being made out.  Pereira, Snodgrass and Grosicki clever enough to exploit the gaps and Robinson at the moment is our sharpest striker.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on January 16, 2021, 02:54:02 PM
Brilliant reading mate

Calling for Nuno to go  :D

They've got Terry Connor on speed dial.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Baltic on January 16, 2021, 02:54:57 PM
Overall we were much better despite two horribly soft goals.  Most of the players looked like they were in a 'derby' and that commitment got us a deserved win!

Special mention to Button who made no mistakes and commanded his box when necessary, Bartley; who was my MOM and the 'square peg' Snodgrass who delivered all that was promised.

Hopefully this will encourage others to join the fight, as now we're not totally stranded.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 02:55:21 PM
They've got Terry Connor on speed dial.

Yes please!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 02:56:45 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Bilston Barcelona still cannot beat our worst side ever at premier league level

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 16, 2021, 02:56:55 PM
Just been on the MM, it hasn't gone down well has it?  :P
They do seem a trifle miffed !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 02:58:07 PM
So glad my half-time doom and gloom was wrong.

Bartley was excellent, clear MOM for me. So glad he is back in the team. A real leader.

Ajayi I thought was poor first half but what a goal. Both centre backs did unbelievable for that vital equaliser.

Fair play to Button as well. I get the impression his communication and presence is much better than Johnstone.

Grosicki - assist for our winning penalty, looked bright, vital bit of pace. Massive bonus for us that he was back in the team. Not surprised when he got subbed as he must have been knackered.

Robinson - won two penalties. I really like his movement and link-up play.

Pereira: Deadly from the spot.

Livermore and Saywers: Showed heart second half, although Romain still give me kittens as times. Gallagher will be back in the side soon I would have thought.

Massive win today; we still have so much to do to get back around our rivals though and as gigantic a result as that is we simply have to bring in 2/3 quality first team players to help the squad.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 02:59:51 PM
Livermore and Sawyers shouldn't even be allowed to be ball boys.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 16, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
From MM this afternoon

"Some fans never learn. Begging for Albion to come up so we can ‘stuff’ them. When do we ever?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: DevonInStripes on January 16, 2021, 03:06:36 PM
Overall fantastic performance, with major positives going forward !
Grosicki has to stay , and Snodgrass was excellent, Robinson and Pereira both stepped up a gear . Only negatives centre mid Livermore disappointing especially on the second goal and Sawyers words fail me !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KYA on January 16, 2021, 03:12:24 PM
A very satisfying win today for obvious reasons reminds of a song we sang a while back especially on a great night match against the dingles, We're #### and we're beating you the look on their faces, priceless  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2021, 03:13:20 PM
I saw a bookie offering 35/1 for and Albion and Blues win today - I considered it but thought how improbable that was. >:(
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 03:14:36 PM
I saw a bookie offering 35/1 for and Albion and Blues win today - I considered it but thought how improbable that was. >:(

Fair judgement Blues are flaky AF.  ;)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gerry m on January 16, 2021, 03:15:14 PM
Apart from some dodgy defending defending a cracking result. Loved the snarling aggression from the players!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: kris_boing on January 16, 2021, 03:16:22 PM
I'd like to thank the manager and players for that result today.  Much needed in these times and you have put a smile on all of our faces today.  Cheers. Come on you Baggies.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on January 16, 2021, 03:16:51 PM
Massive win against one of our relegation rivals. Thr team looked much more composed and organised with a decent attacking threat. In big Sam we trust!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 03:18:40 PM
We've matched Derby's points. Only was is up, and out of the bottom 3.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 16, 2021, 03:21:41 PM
I'd like to thank the manager and players for that result today.  Much needed in these times and you have put a smile on all of our faces today.  Cheers. Come on you Baggies.

Nicely put Kris 👏🏻

Hope today’s performance and result has won over more Baggies fans for Big Sam.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 03:25:10 PM
I have no idea what to say so far

Just bouncing around the house

Wished the pubs were open  :D :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: the other AJ on January 16, 2021, 03:25:20 PM
Some upset Dingles down here too, it’s great to continue the run.
8 goals scored in the last 2 games at the Custard Bowl.
And with this team 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 16, 2021, 03:32:29 PM
I have no idea what to say so far

Just bouncing around the house

Wished the pubs were open  :D :D
This 1000x over, feels so good that. After all the misery of this season so far, get in you beauts  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 03:33:01 PM
Just reading on the MM and they are an entitled bunch arent they these days. Moaning that they want Fosun gone as they havent invested enough!?!? Flip me lads. You dont know how good you've got it.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 03:34:04 PM
What a statement to make   ;D  ;D

"Joao - done, set pieces are ****, doesnt pass over 5 yards/backwards. bullied today by the imperious duo of Livermore and Sawyers - 3"
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: the other AJ on January 16, 2021, 03:34:52 PM
The Omens were apparent..... I took the dog for a walk early evening in Mindarie, West Australia about an hour before kick off. There’s a Wolves fan that lives nearby and we walked past his house and the dog took a huge urine up his car with a Wolves sticker on it......written in the stars ......😛
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 03:35:38 PM
The Omens were apparent..... I took the dog for a walk early evening in Mindarie, West Australia about an hour before kick off. There’s a Wolves fan that lives nearby and we walked past his house and the dog took a huge **** up his car with a Wolves sticker on it......written in the stars ......😛

 ;D

Good boy
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 16, 2021, 03:39:40 PM
We’ve conquered all the Midlands
The Black Country too
Villa Park and St Andrews
3-2 at Molineux
Astlei is the king
Cyrille Regis too
Super Bobby Taylor
We’ll sing this song for you......

With due thanks to whoever posted this on Twitter !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 16, 2021, 03:40:49 PM
The Omens were apparent..... I took the dog for a walk early evening in Mindarie, West Australia about an hour before kick off. There’s a Wolves fan that lives nearby and we walked past his house and the dog took a huge **** up his car with a Wolves sticker on it......written in the stars ......😛
What a well trained Pooch  ;D ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 03:40:58 PM
What a statement to make   ;D  ;D

"Joao - done, set pieces are ****, doesnt pass over 5 yards/backwards. bullied today by the imperious duo of Livermore and Sawyers - 3"

His guide dog must have got out the house at 12:25pm
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 03:42:56 PM
His guide dog must have got out the house at 12:25pm

I've yet to watch the 2nd half but even still i can't see them pair being imperious in it.


They've fully lost it mate.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 03:45:56 PM
I've yet to watch the 2nd half but even still i can't see them pair being imperious in it.


They've fully lost it mate.

They were both woeful, can only hope he was being facetious to make the player he was critiquing sound worse.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: kc56wba on January 16, 2021, 03:49:09 PM
How I wish we could have been there, coming out of the custard bowl singing " The Black Country's our's, the Black Country's ours".  It would have been bostin.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tegga on January 16, 2021, 03:49:22 PM
Didn't really expect that when you consider our current form, but after watching it on BT I thought we deserved it. Still a bit light weight in the tackle at times, and let them have too many chances for my liking.

This now gives us something to build on, surely, can the great escape be on?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: rogerstubbs on January 16, 2021, 03:50:41 PM
Sawyers who has been struggling this season actually played well in 2nd half.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 16, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
https://twitter.com/BenJamminSax/status/1350462351233970181

Think this may be one of my favourite posts so far today  ;D mods feel free to take down if necessary
Title: Molinuex Mix
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 03:54:28 PM
Are they taking it well? :D

Anyone got any favourite ramblings they wish to share to continue the celebrations?  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 16, 2021, 03:56:13 PM
Livermore and Sawyers shouldn't even be allowed to be ball boys.
That's some comment from someone who listened to the game on the radio.
Livermore worked tirelesly for the team today , and the stats say he covered more ground than anyone else from either team, but that doesn't matter does it?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 16, 2021, 03:57:16 PM
That's some comment from someone who listened to the game on the radio.
Livermore worked tirelesly for the team today , and the stats say he covered more ground than anyone else from either team, but that doesn't matter does it?
I was watching the streams (plural).
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 04:01:40 PM
That's some comment from someone who listened to the game on the radio.
Livermore worked tirelesly for the team today , and the stats say he covered more ground than anyone else from either team, but that doesn't matter does it?

That's part of the problem. Runs around a lot, having no positive impact on the game. Costs us the 2nd goal by missing a simple header. Cant pass for toffee. Some bright spark stats guy sees his running numbers, tells the manager, in the team next time. Repeat ad nauseum.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 04:02:38 PM
Are they taking it well? :D

Anyone got any favourite ramblings they wish to share to continue the celebrations?  :D

They were very complimentary about you and I in one of their prematch threads  ;D

I'll have a good look later.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
I’m absolutely delighted with that - we were organised and dare I say composed both defensively and going forwards.

I did fear at half time that their heads might drop and we would be on the back end of a hammering. I totally did not expect that second half.

Bartley and Ajayi were immense. Gibbs also had a good game despite getting rinsed by Troare - no shame in that.

Snodgrass had a solid debut and Pereira looked more like his old self.

The midfield axis definitely needs work as Sawyers was beyond awful but we’re over the line and quite frankly at this moment in time I don’t care.

Gerrit up ya!!
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 04:05:43 PM
Really? Which pre match thread?  :D
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 04:10:21 PM
Really? Which pre match thread?  :D

https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/the-e-h-pre-match-thread.406437 (https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/the-e-h-pre-match-thread.406437)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2021, 04:12:53 PM
Livermore and Sawyers shouldn't even be allowed to be ball boys.

Surprising comment as both did well today, the only praise I can see on the Molineaux Mix is for them. Reckon they closed down their creative play. Didn't see it myself but I will take it.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: koren on January 16, 2021, 04:14:57 PM
What a win!!
Thought we were done after 2-1 but the team did well to comeback!
Still many works to do to stop those sloppy goals conceded.
But let's celebrate the win first. ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 16, 2021, 04:15:52 PM
Sawyers who has been struggling this season actually played well in 2nd half.

He really didnt. Watch that block from Bartley again and watch Sawyers attempt or should I say non attempt at a challenge. That really wont do.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/the-e-h-pre-match-thread.406437 (https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/the-e-h-pre-match-thread.406437)

I never knew that saying I expected to beat them cause they were ***** would cause such a stir  :D

I thought it was obvious  :D
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: BlackCountryPride68 on January 16, 2021, 04:22:09 PM
I cannot recommend this enough. Glorious.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: zac on January 16, 2021, 04:28:11 PM
I just find it hilarious that they have waited 9 years for us to play again, we roll up at the custard bowl with several key players out and still do them over  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 04:29:41 PM
He really didnt. Watch that block from Bartley again and watch Sawyers attempt or should I say non attempt at a challenge. That really wont do.

I think it’s fair to say, he was better in the second half as it would have been very difficult for him to have be worse.

But for me, he is always playing on his heels, which gives his opponent the advantage
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 04:31:58 PM
Here's a Pulis stat for you  :o

First time we've scored 3 goals away from home in the PL for 7 (seven) years.  :-X
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 04:40:11 PM
He really didnt. Watch that block from Bartley again and watch Sawyers attempt or should I say non attempt at a challenge. That really wont do.

Yup, he was just ball watching again leaving them to have a good chance.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 04:45:14 PM
See, I told you Oliver was one of the better Premier League refs  ;)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 04:46:20 PM
That's part of the problem. Runs around a lot, having no positive impact on the game. Costs us the 2nd goal by missing a simple header. Cant pass for toffee. Some bright spark stats guy sees his running numbers, tells the manager, in the team next time. Repeat ad nauseum.

Do you think Sam Allardyce judges a player solely off the stats guy mentioning his running numbers?  I can't see that being true.

I have sympathy for Livermore because, like today, when he's paired in the CM with Sawyers he's having to do the defensive work of both.   There was one point today where he tracked a midfielder who over ran it and the ball went through to Sawyers.  Livermore made an option for him but Sawyers lost it cheaply.  Silva then attacked the back 4, Bartley dropped deeper and deeper, way too deep so Silva got a shot off.  Livermore was the only player to try and get back to make a challenge.  If that had gone in it would have been "Livermore should have tackled him", when in reality, Sawyers conceded possession cheaply then just let his man run off.  Livermore also covered with Gibbs when Grosicki didn't track Traore.

If you put peak Yacob into that midfield and teamed him up with Sawyers he would look poor.  Livermore isn't the all round midfielder he tries to be - I just don't think he's as bad as some people make out. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 04:50:14 PM
Here's a Pulis stat for you  :o

First time we've scored 3 goals away from home in the PL for 7 (seven) years.  :-X

It’s the first time, if I heard correctly, that Wolves have lost back to back home games since their return to the Premier League. Why us?  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 16, 2021, 04:59:46 PM
After a pretty poor cup performance hats off to David Button. Man of match bartley captains performance. What an assist also. Periera has some stones missing the pen in shootout and burying 2 huge pressure pens. Robinson causes problems up top the best we have as it stands. Snodgrass has added some street smarts. Were still too powder puff in centre midfield. Gallagher I'm sure will be back in. 2 sloppy goals conceded however after huge win confidence will be high we might be able to stamp that out.

Well done to the players and Big Sam that has began to make amends for some of this seasons hurt.  Come on you baggies, still only a fool's hope but daring to dream
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mulliganstired on January 16, 2021, 05:06:40 PM
He really didnt. Watch that block from Bartley again and watch Sawyers attempt or should I say non attempt at a challenge. That really wont do.
That really was awful, how much time does he think he is going to get on the edge of his own box?  But he was trying to get it forward whenever he had it.

Livermore was pretty invisible for me, but as he was invisible in the middle of our defence where they were getting no change at all, maybe he was doing something right
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: NJS on January 16, 2021, 05:13:32 PM
I thought Livermore was effective in breaking up their play today and got in good cover positions when our back line was in disarray.  He's not the best but I  can't understand the over the top criticism.  Sawyers on the other hand was poor, first half passing regularly finding their men and usual letting opposition players glide past him.  I don't think he'll be starting when Gallagher comes back.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: JMullen95 on January 16, 2021, 05:14:52 PM
See, I told you Oliver was one of the better Premier League refs  ;)

Never doubted him.

In all seriousness though, I think the first penalty was just outside the box, the second goal could have easily been given as a foul for the hand in Neves' face, but the second penalty was correct. The potential handball by Gibbs is a tricky one because I don't think anyone knows what constitutes handball anymore.

I think Oliver still feels guilty about sending Ibanez off at Blackpool all those years ago.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: richjonawba on January 16, 2021, 05:27:32 PM
I thought Livermore was effective in breaking up their play today and got in good cover positions when our back line was in disarray.  He's not the best but I  can't understand the over the top criticism.  Sawyers on the other hand was poor, first half passing regularly finding their men and usual letting opposition players glide past him.  I don't think he'll be starting when Gallagher comes back.

I agree, our CM pairing has to be Gallagher and Livermore, unless someone comes in of course. Pereira has to be in the middle as a number 10 also, far too good to be playing out wide.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 16, 2021, 05:27:57 PM
I was watching the streams (plural).
My apologies Droitwich , i thought it was you who said you had listened on the radio. Mind you if you watched it I don't know why you dug Jake out. Today he worked tirelessly and ran further than anyone on the pitch.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 05:28:25 PM
I thought Livermore was effective in breaking up their play today and got in good cover positions when our back line was in disarray.  He's not the best but I  can't understand the over the top criticism.  Sawyers on the other hand was poor, first half passing regularly finding their men and usual letting opposition players glide past him.  I don't think he'll be starting when Gallagher comes back.

I don't rate Livermore, I think he's terrible (in general) but I think your post above is fair. He at least put's himself about a bit compared to Sawyers who plays like he's stoned.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Adder on January 16, 2021, 05:30:20 PM
Sawyers was asleep once or twice, notably on the edge of the area where Bartley ended up making another block.

On the plus side he did look to pass more positively today and seemed to dally on the ball a bit less. Big Sam has evidently been having words with them all this week, individually as well as collectively which Sawyers mentioned in his post match interview. There'll no doubt be more words to come.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on January 16, 2021, 05:35:44 PM
Just when you think were down and out, we do that to the local rivals.
Got to love em.
Well done Baggies.
Bartley has to be captain. He has a voice on the pitch and never shirks or hides
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 16, 2021, 06:02:19 PM
Today gave me that glimmer of hope  8)

Big win with big character shown from our boys today against a quality team (as much as it pains me to say the last bit  ::))

It doesn’t matter how far we fall - we will always beat the Wo1ve5  :-*

Title: Re: match officials
Post by: ronnie_allen on January 16, 2021, 06:08:44 PM
Never doubted him.

In all seriousness though, I think the first penalty was just outside the box, the second goal could have easily been given as a foul for the hand in Neves' face, but the second penalty was correct. The potential handball by Gibbs is a tricky one because I don't think anyone knows what constitutes handball anymore.

I think Oliver still feels guilty about sending Ibanez off at Blackpool all those years ago.

Was decent and decisive. On handball. Would have been harsh but there was a foul on Button originally as Silva deliberately stepped into him as he jumped for the ball.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: Atomic on January 16, 2021, 06:12:36 PM
I thought Oliver had a great game, got everything right, certainly all the big decisions.

VAR for once did what it is supposed to do, make background checks without getting involved unless there is a clear and obvious mistake.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: liverbaggie on January 16, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
Great I can watch MOTD for the second time this season tonight!
I can't bear to watch this weird season especially when we've been so poor
Well done to all
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: AlbionFan on January 16, 2021, 06:17:45 PM
He is one of my favourite referees and is close to joining a select few of my all time favourite refs, Ray Tinkler and Roger Milford, for those with long memories  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggie53 on January 16, 2021, 06:23:59 PM
Funny
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AbbeymeadBaggie on January 16, 2021, 06:27:36 PM
For their first goal - Silva's shoulder barge on O'shea after the backheel - the ball was not within playing distance - should/could have been disallowed.
What's the current rule on handball before a goal. The ball rolls down Silva's shoulder. VAR ?

ps definitely a penalty for Gibbs' handball

Just shows that despite our shortcomings we can compete in this league but previous VAR robberies MU & CFC have put us a lap behind

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 16, 2021, 06:29:26 PM
The M Mix us a very funny read tonight. :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Albionic on January 16, 2021, 06:30:07 PM
For their first goal - Silva's shoulder barge on O'shea after the backheel - the ball was not within playing distance - should/could have been disallowed.
What's the current rule on handball before a goal. The ball rolls down Silva's shoulder. VAR ?

ps definitely a penalty for Gibbs' handball

Just shows that despite our shortcomings we can compete in this league but previous VAR robberies MU & CFC have put us a lap behind

At the end of the season 18/ 20 clubs will be saying similar to this !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dexy on January 16, 2021, 06:33:58 PM
Not much to add to others on here other than that goal from Semi , what a header . As my Dad said it changed the game , decent flick from Bartley but Semi's got a split second to get that right. Superb.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pelada on January 16, 2021, 06:38:47 PM
What a result.

Had some luck, wasn’t always pretty, but showed some signs of character.

Now get some fresh faces in and build on this momentum. Massive month.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: leeiswba on January 16, 2021, 06:41:14 PM
What a day! Imagine how good it would have been if we were there but I’m going to forget that and just enjoy what we have.

I honestly couldn’t stop laughing for about half hour, it is just really really funny how we always do the business over them!

It’s made me realise though how much I want this lockdown to finish as I have actually realised i haven’t felt this happy for about 9 months!!

What a club we can be at times
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggies_24 on January 16, 2021, 06:56:08 PM
Do you reckon the tatter’s still sat there at the ground in shock at how the class of 92 managed to throw that away.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 07:12:11 PM
Not much to add to others on here other than that goal from Semi , what a header . As my Dad said it changed the game , decent flick from Bartley but Semi's got a split second to get that right. Superb.

Good point because it was a mission to time his run to get his head onto the ball and even then required a top quality header to place it in the top corner from that angle. It was an unbelievable goal. Bartley and Ajayi could try that 20 times on the training ground and you'd expect them to score once.  That said those two have consistently done the business for us from set pieces. Remember our goal at home to Leeds last season, or our goal against Chelsea this season? One centre back to the other and bang. We'll look back on that Ajayi goal for years to come. Already iconic to me and it's only hours old!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 16, 2021, 07:31:38 PM
Anybody else think having no fans in there for the derby helped us a bit? Would be nice to have fans back for the reverse fixture.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: DaveWBA on January 16, 2021, 07:33:43 PM
If I were Wolves, I would simply shut the **** up forever.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiebof on January 16, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
It feels so great to beat them, I'm sure they thought they'd be able to avenge what we did to them 9 years ago but not today. We do play them again near to the end of the season so we shouldn't go too overboard just yet.

I think credit to Allardyce today, we seemed to be less focused on playing every first ball forward and that enabled us to build play and have some nice incisive counter attacks. Going forward directly doesn't really suit us with the personnel we have. Aside from that it was quite a nice back to basics approach with a 4411 meaning we covered most of the zones on the pitch defensively and our central midfielders being tasked with staying in those central zones.

Although O'Shea wasn't great today, I'd rather him at right back to Furlong and it meant Bartley, a leader, came into the back 4 which helped. I have my misgivings about Bartley as a player, and would still like us to replace him with someone else next to Ajayi, but none about his character and he was immense in every single way today.

I thought Snodgrass was industrious and switched on off the ball which definitely helped as our central midfielders were outnumbered in there. That said, I thought they were both poor as normal really although Sawyers the better of the two. Livermore just never gets on the half turn and looks to progress the ball and it just leads to stagnant possession that becomes risky in our own half. I though Grosicki held his width well today and was an ok threat with his movement. Robinson was good up front, he is a clever player with his movement and miles ahead of Burke, that was a good piece of business.

There's something to build on there but that spine needs strengthening, a midfielder in there alongside Gallagher, a presence up front so we can play a different way when we are pegged back and a leader at the back to replace Bartley will give us a fighting chance. We did well today but Wolves did still create chances and not just from set pieces.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: Smethwickender93 on January 16, 2021, 08:00:57 PM
"we shud go for perera from them lot. Wants more money, portuguise"



From Mol Mix hahaha ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mulliganstired on January 16, 2021, 08:17:43 PM
Great I can watch MOTD for the second time this season tonight!
I can't bear to watch this weird season especially when we've been so poor
Well done to all
Me too 🙂
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: letmereadposts on January 16, 2021, 08:24:24 PM
Reenergised as a fan today. That was a team that cares.

Livermore covered a hell of a lot of ground today as did Snodgrass who looks lean, sharp and maybe - just maybe - the catalyst for a stronger midfield and team that can compete for survival.

The build up this week felt like a funeral, a turning of the tide and end of Albion dominance. Come this morning and of course I decided to watch, despite fully expecting a hiding. Come the game however and boy did the lads do well. Wolves have the better squad but we brought the grit. It was like the Megson underdog days again and it felt good.

Bartley had one of those games (like Chelsea) Semi has to be kept if we go down. Pereira sowed the seeds of a derby day hero story in his Tweets, and then played the tale out beautifully with two classy winning penalties and a celebration to haunt the dingles for hopefully another 9 years.

We did not have a full squad today but the lads did the business. Love the celebrations at the end and the comments from Allardyce were good to hear as a fan. COYB.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 08:31:21 PM
On the law of averages you'd have expected Wolves to have converted more of the enormous amount of corners and crosses they got into our box. They obviously spotted a weakness there, and we couldn't stop Traore getting around our defence. But unlike in previous games, we got more players up the pitch, got 12 shots off (BBC stats) and could have scored more. Look forward to Gallagher coming back and Snodgrass adds alot of knowhow and experience. I hope Grosicki stays in the team as his directness and pace offers us much greater threat, even if his runs don't always come off.
   
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 08:35:58 PM
That's some comment from someone who listened to the game on the radio.
Livermore worked tirelesly for the team today , and the stats say he covered more ground than anyone else from either team, but that doesn't matter does it?

Agree with you. I wish people wouldn’t keep mentioning Sawyers and Livermore in same sentence. One couldn’t care less the other one does. Not the most gifted by any means but always gives everything.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 08:42:02 PM
Agree with you. I wish people wouldn’t keep mentioning Sawyers and Livermore in same sentence. One couldn’t care less the other one does. Not the most gifted by any means but always gives everything.

Sawyers cares more about the Albion in his sleep than Livermore does.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Albionic on January 16, 2021, 08:47:45 PM
Sawyers cares more about the Albion in his sleep than Livermore does.

confusing care with ability !

I was so hopeful that Sawyers would be a revelation but its become clear he is a decent championship player and no more sadly, that doesn't mean he don't care though.

 
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 09:05:50 PM
I’ve seen a few saying they were missing the crowd.

Yes, I missed them too.

The sound of boos and the sights of them arguing following a loss to Sandwell Town is a sight to behold  :D
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: gazberg on January 16, 2021, 09:10:14 PM
So which one of you is MrBoing?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 16, 2021, 09:15:45 PM
Sawyers cares more about the Albion in his sleep than Livermore does.
Blimey Jacko, that's some new branch of behavioural psychology your into there  :o
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wodenson46 on January 16, 2021, 09:35:16 PM
It’s the first time, if I heard correctly, that Wolves have lost back to back home games since their return to the Premier League. Why us?  ;D

Just one reason really. We are; even now, and we always were, and we always will be; regardless of form or results elsewhere or against others, even at our lowest ebb-  BETTER THAN THEM
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 16, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
I dont care who supported who as a boy. Contrast Bartley who threw himself in the line of everything with Sawyers whos lack of industry caused Bartley to take that action and you clearly see who you want beside you in a battle.

I've been critical of Barts and no he's not the best defender in the world but he would've died to get those three points today. Huge respect and in our position I'd pick one of him over two of Sawyers. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 16, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Not many professional players actually care about the club that pays them excessive amounts compared to life in the real world... ::)

Livermore, like the rest of us, has good and bad days - his reaction at the final whistle shows that he and the rest of them cared about the result today  8)
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
This absolute (old) gold tonight. I'm having a great time  ;D

Nuno Out
Time to question FOSUN.
This group of players is done...

Great stuff  8)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: lewisant on January 16, 2021, 10:22:50 PM
First on MOTD...right...a whiskey and a second helping !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Jimmy on January 16, 2021, 10:38:14 PM
Love you Albion :P
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dudleylad on January 16, 2021, 10:51:02 PM
The balance to the side was also there today.

Yes I think we need an upgrade now on Livermoore with Gallagher playing instead of Sawyers and a big strong centre forward, but in the main it was round pegs in round holes.

The wide areas reminded me of under Hodgson where we had a more technical player on one wing that offered protection to the defence (snodgrass/brunt) and the quicker outler player on the other (Grosicki/ Thomas).

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Baggies on January 16, 2021, 10:53:32 PM
We pipped them to promotion in 2002. We beat them 4 times in a season in 2007, including taking the south bank. We beat them 5-1 in 2012.

This was meant to be their year, but our injury and suspension ravaged side STILL beat their multi million pound team at the custard bowl.

Awww I love it. Sleep well Baggies fans 😁
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dudleylad on January 16, 2021, 11:00:28 PM
I dont care who supported who as a boy. Contrast Bartley who threw himself in the line of everything with Sawyers whos lack of industry caused Bartley to take that action and you clearly see who you want beside you in a battle.

I've been critical of Barts and no he's not the best defender in the world but he would've died to get those three points today. Huge respect and in our position I'd pick one of him over two of Sawyers.

Bartley is a really weird player hes obviously a leader and steps up in these games, its the games that arent seen as important that he seems to switch off......Perhaps Sam might find a way that sort of gets his head believing every game is a cup final he will become alot more consistant.
Title: Wo1ve5
Post by: baggie82 on January 16, 2021, 11:02:57 PM
Fantastic post I have come across from a custard bowl fan on their forum prior to the match today:

"**** them and **** that ****hole of a borough they hail from. Saturday is the day we make them regret a ****ing decade of them writing Wo1ve5. This has been a long time coming. I hope you Bennies are reading this. Come Saturday evening, you’re being put firmly back in your roll-up smoking, giro collecting place. Enjoy this week, because you won’t enjoy the weekend. ****s."

Here's also a glorious link to Kevin Campbell cheering us on against the "dogheads": https://twitter.com/Sidaway_/status/1348935258889199617?s=20 (https://twitter.com/Sidaway_/status/1348935258889199617?s=20)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: Dudleylad on January 16, 2021, 11:07:59 PM
They really cant help themselves ;D
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: Albionic on January 16, 2021, 11:08:39 PM
love Kevin Campbell even more now
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 11:10:10 PM
Sawyers cares more about the Albion in his sleep than Livermore does.

I care too but can’t play the game neither can Sawyers. Not at this level anyway.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2021, 11:11:39 PM
Has anyone got the posts of them talking about how pooh the likes of Ajayi and co are?  :D

They’ve done so much talking over the last couple of years about their revenge.. they’ve even adopted a song about how we get battered everywhere we go... just a shame the Bilston Barcelona can never batter us at molineux
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 16, 2021, 11:14:34 PM
I care too but can’t play the game neither can Sawyers. Not at this level anyway.

In fairness that wasn't what you said bud.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on January 16, 2021, 11:17:46 PM
To be fair, Sawyers wasn’t that bad. I know defence isn’t his game but look at the build up to the second penalty. He was instrumental in that move.  Let’s try not to make him the next Johnstone or Livermore. A lot of posts are really personal against him and I genuinely think his style of play isn’t how we should gauge how much he cares. He is not defensive , that’s clear, but in the main, on the ball, he is very good.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 16, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
In fairness that wasn't what you said bud.

You got me on a technicality there 8)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2021, 11:29:48 PM
To be fair, Sawyers wasn’t that bad. I know defence isn’t his game but look at the build up to the second penalty. He was instrumental in that move.  Let’s try not to make him the next Johnstone or Livermore. A lot of posts are really personal against him and I genuinely think his style of play isn’t how we should gauge how much he cares. He is not defensive , that’s clear, but in the main, on the ball, he is very good.

That he was wasteful in the first half but improved in the 2nd.
Still times when he could have been better, but it still baffles me why he plays DM.
I genuinely think we’d see a better player if he was played further forward.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on January 16, 2021, 11:38:37 PM
That he was wasteful in the first half but improved in the 2nd.
Still times when he could have been better, but it still baffles me why he plays DM.
I genuinely think we’d see a better player if he was played further forward.

Agreed. In a team that has more possession he was able to do well last year in the main. At this level his defensive game is massively exposed, but he is still good on the ball. Let’s not forget for much of his career he was a number 10.

I expect him to be dropped for Gallagher for the next game, and sadly I would agree if that happens, but it doesn’t mean he deserves all the abuse on here. He is a certain type of player that offers a certain quality. Unfortunately in a team battling at the bottom of the league we need something different.

Unless of course Allardyce can add to his defensive awareness, in which case we have an excellent player on our hands.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 17, 2021, 01:37:53 AM
To be fair, Sawyers wasn’t that bad. I know defence isn’t his game but look at the build up to the second penalty. He was instrumental in that move.  Let’s try not to make him the next Johnstone or Livermore. A lot of posts are really personal against him and I genuinely think his style of play isn’t how we should gauge how much he cares. He is not defensive , that’s clear, but in the main, on the ball, he is very good.
I've just watched the game again and made a point of looking at Sawyers, and could only count 4 passes/headers which lost us possession. Over 90 minutes thats about par for the course. I wish though he would send more defence splitting passes. Nearly all are just risk-free shortish passes keeping it in the team.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 17, 2021, 02:48:27 AM
Some things never change eh! Boing boing! Take that!

I was starting to question the desire of this team after the last few results, think there has been a massive hangover since Bilic left but as Romaine mentions, the defeat at Blackpool has provided the shot to arm we needed.

I’ve probably been one of Bartley’s biggest critics on here but was immense. Special shout outs to Robinson and Livermore who (granted lacked quality) ran themselves into the ground.

It’s days like these that make up for all the suffering. Would be monumental if we pulled off an escape but that will come down to who else we bring in.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 17, 2021, 05:55:04 AM
Any one else give it a big yessssss when HRK took that added time ball down to the corner?
Whatever his perceived failings the bloke has got a proper footballing brain
COYB
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 17, 2021, 09:41:46 AM
Any one else give it a big yessssss when HRK took that added time ball down to the corner?
Whatever his perceived failings the bloke has got a proper footballing brain
COYB

Big Sam singled him out HRK in his after match interview and was full of praise for him in the way he ran the ball into the corner. Head Coaches sometimes see a different player to that of fans. Well done HRK!

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/55688838
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 17, 2021, 09:44:42 AM
Agreed. In a team that has more possession he was able to do well last year in the main. At this level his defensive game is massively exposed, but he is still good on the ball. Let’s not forget for much of his career he was a number 10.

I expect him to be dropped for Gallagher for the next game, and sadly I would agree if that happens, but it doesn’t mean he deserves all the abuse on here. He is a certain type of player that offers a certain quality. Unfortunately in a team battling at the bottom of the league we need something different.

Unless of course Allardyce can add to his defensive awareness, in which case we have an excellent player on our hands.

I haven’t seen any abuse and should there be you need to use your report function so we can remove the posts and ban the member. We do not accept abuse of club officials on here.

As for Sawyers performance - I thought he was abysmal in the first half and incredibly wasteful in possession. He was marginally better in the second half but it could not get much worse. He was bailed out by Bartley who got him out of trouble after he backed out of a 50/50.

I like him and really wanted him to do well this season but we are clearly not set up to suit him and it painfully shows.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 17, 2021, 09:51:29 AM
The endorphins are still swimming for me.

Hoping so much that this can kick start us. Great Escape Mk II? Yes, please.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 17, 2021, 10:03:43 AM
They're not very literate, are they?

Hilarious read, makes me think - glad we didn't spend all that money to be so inebriated off.

EDIT: thanks Mods for 'correcting' my word - went back to change it and you had already done it!  :D
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 17, 2021, 10:29:45 AM
He is one of my favourite referees and is close to joining a select few of my all time favourite refs, Ray Tinkler and Roger Milford, for those with long memories  :D
Tinkler reffed our infamous win at Leeds, and our promotion winning game at Oldham. Milford officiated the Port Vale game at Wembley. Nowt wrong with my memory. ☺️
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: ttree30 on January 17, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
Tinkler reffed our infamous win at Leeds, and our promotion winning game at Oldham. Milford officiated the Port Vale game at Wembley. Nowt wrong with my memory. ☺️

Spot on! 👏

We possibly caught a break by an inch with the first penalty, but unlike last season I think that’s the first 50-50 we’ve had go our way in the entire campaign.

On another day it’s true two of the other decisions might have gone the other way (and we’d have been equally unlucky if they’d done so) but it’s all irrelevant.

The better team won on the day.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ttree30 on January 17, 2021, 10:49:25 AM
I’m in the older group who doesn’t see this as such a big game. I’ve always liked Wolves, although their supporters are rather more prone to hysteria than most that their team is about to conquer the world or is the worst ever.

I’d have swapped the win for any number against Aston Villa. But that’s just me.

It’s one of those quirks that Wolves fans desperately want to beat Albion, and very rarely do. And a lot of older Albion fans want to beat Villa, and very rarely do. The more you want something...

One swallow doesn’t make a summer of course, but getting experienced heads in who have some fuel left in the tank is vital (eg Snodgrass). If Allardyce can keep such a poor team up he will have worked miracles.

Hopefully the emotional boost of beating Wolves will not only lift the players but also give Allardyce a bit of credit in the bank with some of our supporters whose irrational hatred of a highly experienced, pragmatic coach will only help to seal our fate.

Stop carping. Recognise Allardyce is the only chance we have and he’s working with very little material. Try to enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: AlbionFan on January 17, 2021, 10:51:01 AM
Tinkler reffed our infamous win at Leeds, and our promotion winning game at Oldham. Milford officiated the Port Vale game at Wembley. Nowt wrong with my memory. ☺️

Yep, you have a good memory indeed costa blanca.

I was present on all three occasions, but feared for my life when leaving Elland Road that day.

But glorious and joyous days they were and, obviously, still live long in the memory.

COYB!!!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 17, 2021, 11:09:41 AM
We went into the backyard of the team of "92" (as per Steve Bull) and embarrassed them, yet again!

My big derby is and always will be against the vile, but a Black Country derby win is always most welcome and very palatable, particularly when it is against all the odds.

There does appear to be a level of synergy between both fanbases (Dog-heads and vile) and it does provide  one with level of satisfaction, on a par with "coitus", to bring them spiralling back down to earth to crash and burn with such maniacal derangement   :D
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: GREGMT on January 17, 2021, 11:10:06 AM
Keep these officials on WBA matches for the rest of the season!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 17, 2021, 11:55:21 AM
Imagine being told at 12 noon Saturday that there will be 5 goals scored today

I would have been forgiven for predicting 5-0 or 4-1!

The sort of result that can kickstart our season and Great Escape II
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: alex1 on January 17, 2021, 11:59:35 AM
Would he have given the same decsions at Old Trafford or Anfield though?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 17, 2021, 12:20:00 PM
Big Sam singled him out HRK in his after match interview and was full of praise for him in the way he ran the ball into the corner. Head Coaches sometimes see a different player to that of fans. Well done HRK!

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/55688838
I don't think he deserved special praise for running the ball into the corner at that particular point in the game. It should be standard practice. If he hadn't have done it, I'd have been very disappointed.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mifos on January 17, 2021, 12:51:58 PM
I’m in the older group who doesn’t see this as such a big game. I’ve always liked Wolves, although their supporters are rather more prone to hysteria than most that their team is about to conquer the world or is the worst ever.

I’d have swapped the win for any number against Aston Villa. But that’s just me.

It’s one of those quirks that Wolves fans desperately want to beat Albion, and very rarely do. And a lot of older Albion fans want to beat Villa, and very rarely do. The more you want something...



I don't think it's an age thing, i'm from the older group too (if 55 counts),  the BCD is by far the biggest derby for me. I'm from k'ford and grown up surrounded by dingles, Villa fans few and far between. To me, sacrilege to many Baggies I know, Villa is almost just another game, though knowing what it means to many fellow Baggies does give it more of an edge. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 17, 2021, 01:38:13 PM
I don't think he deserved special praise for running the ball into the corner at that particular point in the game. It should be standard practice. If he hadn't have done it, I'd have been very disappointed.

I seem to recall a certain Saido Berahino, who, in similar circumstances, wanted to play football and cost us a goal and two points, I think, as a result. He got a slap from James Morrison in the dressing room after the game and rightly so, was it against Cardiff that happened, can't quite remember.

So, it might be standard practise and we expect it, but it doesn't always happen and can have consequences and if the Head Coach deems it worth a mention, who am I to question him? But each to there own  :)
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: AlbionFan on January 17, 2021, 01:42:21 PM
Would he have given the same decsions at Old Trafford or Anfield though?

Who cares, he gave it and anything else is just sheer conjecture
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: PartisanBaggie on January 17, 2021, 01:53:25 PM
I seem to recall a certain Saido Berahino, who, in similar circumstances, wanted to play football and cost us a goal and two points, I think, as a result. He got a slap from James Morrison in the dressing room after the game and rightly so, was it against Cardiff that happened, can't quite remember.

So, it might be standard practise and we expect it, but it doesn't always happen and can have consequences and if the Head Coach deems it worth a mention, who am I to question him? But each to there own  :)

You’re right Albionfan, it was Cardiff at home in 2014.

The cross from Berahino led straight to Steven Caulker’s equaliser moments later.

I was sat in Halfords Lane that afternoon and can still see it happening now 😳
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 17, 2021, 02:22:41 PM
It was clever officiating by Oliver, if he'd have given a freekick there would have been no check as I understand it.

He gave the penalty knowing VAR could change it if it was outside. It wasn't by the way Robbos right foot was on the line, which is a pen.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 17, 2021, 02:22:51 PM
Just spotted this on Twitter and it made I LOL

"West Brom have won more times at Molineux in the last 24 hours than Wolves have won at The Hawthorns in the last 24 years."
Title: Re: match officials
Post by: JMullen95 on January 17, 2021, 02:50:31 PM
It was clever officiating by Oliver, if he'd have given a freekick there would have been no check as I understand it.

He gave the penalty knowing VAR could change it if it was outside. It wasn't by the way Robbos right foot was on the line, which is a pen.

You’re wrong.

There was an incident a few months back in the Brighton Southampton game where the ref initially gave a free kick but VAR reviewed it and changed the decision to penalty as it was right on the line.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 17, 2021, 03:09:07 PM
Just spotted this on Twitter and it made I LOL

"West Brom have won more times at Molineux in the last 24 hours than Wolves have won at The Hawthorns in the last 24 years."

Oh that's PRICELESS!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tennant1wba on January 17, 2021, 03:21:39 PM
I don't think it's an age thing, i'm from the older group too (if 55 counts),  the BCD is by far the biggest derby for me. I'm from k'ford and grown up surrounded by dingles, Villa fans few and far between. To me, sacrilege to many Baggies I know, Villa is almost just another game, though knowing what it means to many fellow Baggies does give it more of an edge. 


i know what your saying i live in wombourne and tbh i dont like villa but
for me wolves games are my local derby always have been and im fourtunate my dad
was  a long serving albion fan season ticket holder and always took me
to them home and away  up the baggies 🟦⬜️🟦⬜️
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Tony Goddens Gloves on January 17, 2021, 06:46:10 PM
I was on the Stafford road Fordhouses today and in the central reservation there are some wooden Wolf statues. Some cheeky chappie has put an Albion scarf on one them. Priceless👍
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Lukeb on January 18, 2021, 04:33:07 AM
I thought Sawyers was solid, his errors are just amplified by some as he's the current scapegoat. His ball movement was top notch for the most part.

Did not expect that result or performance at all. Absolutely stoked to see some backbone. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 18, 2021, 06:38:56 AM
I don't think he deserved special praise for running the ball into the corner at that particular point in the game. It should be standard practice. If he hadn't have done it, I'd have been very disappointed.
I think we could all name someone who didn't know it was standard practice!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 18, 2021, 08:16:22 AM
I thought Sawyers was solid, his errors are just amplified by some as he's the current scapegoat. His ball movement was top notch for the most part.

Did not expect that result or performance at all. Absolutely stoked to see some backbone.
I was thinking alone g these lines.Yes has not  quick,he gave few sloppy passes but he was the instigator or involved in most thinks creative that we did in open play which despite Allardyce saying different wasnt an awful lot .Tend to think it doesn't matter how we or badly he plays he is the current whipping boy for many regardless
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 18, 2021, 08:27:34 AM
I seem to recall a certain Saido Berahino, who, in similar circumstances, wanted to play football and cost us a goal and two points, I think, as a result. He got a slap from James Morrison in the dressing room after the game and rightly so, was it against Cardiff that happened, can't quite remember.

So, it might be standard practise and we expect it, but it doesn't always happen and can have consequences and if the Head Coach deems it worth a mention, who am I to question him? But each to there own  :)

Berahino was slapped for being gobby not because he didn't take the ball into the corner. 

Berahino tried to cross the ball into the middle for (I think) Sessegnon but it was intercepted by Cardiff who lumped it forward Reid (or it might have been Ridgewell) could have just headed it out for a throw but decided to head it back into the middle of the park where it was picked up by a Cardiff player which then lead to the goal. Whoever it was that headed it back into the middle rather than out for a throw was equally (if not more) to blame than Berahino for the equaliser.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 18, 2021, 09:16:37 AM
Berahino was slapped for being gobby not because he didn't take the ball into the corner. 

Berahino tried to cross the ball into the middle for (I think) Sessegnon but it was intercepted by Cardiff who lumped it forward Reid (or it might have been Ridgewell) could have just headed it out for a throw but decided to head it back into the middle of the park where it was picked up by a Cardiff player which then lead to the goal. Whoever it was that headed it back into the middle rather than out for a throw was equally (if not more) to blame than Berahino for the equaliser.

I think many news paper articles at the time would differ with your assessment of the dressing room incident.

Could I ask what you base that assessment of the incident on?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 18, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
I think many news paper articles at the time would differ with your assessment of the dressing room incident.

Could I ask what you base that assessment of the incident on?

Many newspaper reports at the time said that Berahino had been slapped/punched by Morrison as he had been unapologetic and a bit surly in the dressing room after the match. The players were angry with Berahino but the fight with Morrison was due to his attitude about being blamed and refusing to apologise. It wasn't a case of "you lost the ball"... thump. If Berahino had apologised then there wouldn't have been a fight (IMO).



https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-james-morrison-identified-west-18721566

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-saido-berahino-could-3343822

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-broms-james-morrison-backed-3340916
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: Dexy on January 18, 2021, 09:58:35 AM
I know all fans are fickle but I'd be very surprised if they got a better boss than Nuno , after all he's done for them some of the stuff I've seen..... :o
Can say the same about Moutinho , maybe times catching him up now but a wonderful footballer over the years.....some of the dingle comments towards him  :o
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ttree30 on January 18, 2021, 10:00:06 AM
I don't think it's an age thing, i'm from the older group too (if 55 counts),  the BCD is by far the biggest derby for me. I'm from k'ford and grown up surrounded by dingles, Villa fans few and far between. To me, sacrilege to many Baggies I know, Villa is almost just another game, though knowing what it means to many fellow Baggies does give it more of an edge.

Maybe it’s a combination of location and age? Wolves haven’t really ever been much good in my lifetime, and when we had a good side we were competing with Villa rather than them. We could never seem to get the better of them too often even with Cunningham, Regis, Robson et al and they went and won the League one year while we won nothing. It mattered a lot to me back then.

Never bothered much about Wolves, though even they managed to win the League Cup a couple of times despite being a pretty mediocre side.

Villa’s the derby for me. Always has been and always will be.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 18, 2021, 10:09:53 AM
Many newspaper reports at the time said that Berahino had been slapped/punched by Morrison as he had been unapologetic and a bit surly in the dressing room after the match. The players were angry with Berahino but the fight with Morrison was due to his attitude about being blamed and refusing to apologise. It wasn't a case of "you lost the ball"... thump. If Berahino had apologised then there wouldn't have been a fight (IMO).



https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-james-morrison-identified-west-18721566

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-saido-berahino-could-3343822

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-broms-james-morrison-backed-3340916

I think you are delving into the realms of semantics.

Quite clearly the root cause of the confrontation, for which an apology was sort, was Berahino giving the ball away late in the game that resulted in Cardiff scoring.

It is probably conjecture by both of us in why the punch was thrown, but certainly had we won that game, there would not have been an argument about Berahino losing the ball, no need for an apology and no punch thrown, all other things remaining equal.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/never-forget-sadio-berahino-jokes-17168272

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-james-morrison-identified-west-18721566

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/02/saido-berahino-legal-action-james-morrison-west-bromwich-albion-dressing-room-row

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/02/saido-berahino-legal-action-james-morrison-west-bromwich-albion-dressing-room-row
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KYA on January 18, 2021, 10:10:17 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted anywhere but below is a link to the match highlights off wolves own website, enjoy!
In the real derby debate put vila down for me more obnoxious fans you won't find anywhere.
https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/first-team/20210118-highlights-wolves-2-3-west-brom/#
Title: Re: Wo1ve5
Post by: KYA on January 18, 2021, 10:23:20 AM
Fantastic post I have come across from a custard bowl fan on their forum prior to the match today:

"**** them and **** that ****hole of a borough they hail from. Saturday is the day we make them regret a ****ing decade of them writing Wo1ve5. This has been a long time coming. I hope you Bennies are reading this. Come Saturday evening, you’re being put firmly back in your roll-up smoking, giro collecting place. Enjoy this week, because you won’t enjoy the weekend. ****s."

Here's also a glorious link to Kevin Campbell cheering us on against the "dogheads": https://twitter.com/Sidaway_/status/1348935258889199617?s=20 (https://twitter.com/Sidaway_/status/1348935258889199617?s=20)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D
Such big mouths always giving it the big one, they never learn  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 18, 2021, 10:30:33 AM
I think you are delving into the realms of semantics.

Quite clearly the root cause of the confrontation, for which an apology was sort, was Berahino giving the ball away late in the game that resulted in Cardiff scoring.

It is probably conjecture by both of us in why the punch was thrown, but certainly had we won that game, there would not have been an argument about Berahino losing the ball, no need for an apology and no punch thrown, all other things remaining equal.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/never-forget-sadio-berahino-jokes-17168272

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/exclusive-james-morrison-identified-west-18721566

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/02/saido-berahino-legal-action-james-morrison-west-bromwich-albion-dressing-room-row

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/02/saido-berahino-legal-action-james-morrison-west-bromwich-albion-dressing-room-row

Yeah we'll never know what happened and as you say if we win there's no punch/slap etc.

 I remember saying at the time though whoever headed the ball back into the middle was equally as responsible as Berahino for the equalising goal (if not more so as they could have headed it out for a throw in)...but it was many years ago now! I do think Berahino, being a youngster, was an easy target compared to Reid (I'm pretty sure it was him that headed it) though. About the only time I had any sympathy for Berahino.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: SmethDan on January 18, 2021, 10:37:38 AM
Maybe it’s a combination of location and age? Wolves haven’t really ever been much good in my lifetime, and when we had a good side we were competing with Villa rather than them. We could never seem to get the better of them too often even with Cunningham, Regis, Robson et al and they went and won the League one year while we won nothing. It mattered a lot to me back then.

Never bothered much about Wolves, though even they managed to win the League Cup a couple of times despite being a pretty mediocre side.

Villa’s the derby for me. Always has been and always will be.

This 53 year old chap from Smethwick largely agrees.

Yet given how much they hate us slapping the Dingles back into place never gets old. I was absolutely delighted with the win and feel slightly envious of those who despise the Wolves more, especially as we rolled over so cheaply for the Vile at ours.

We can have another crack at them at the Seal Pen though, just like the sister bangers can lick their bloodied paws before the return at ours. I'm quite happy to despise them both, all be it one more than the other, as intrinsic dislike of our perceived rivals makes the footballing world go around.

COYB, SOTV and FTW 8) .
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 18, 2021, 10:41:49 AM
Yeah we'll never know what happened and as you say if we win there's no punch/slap etc.

 I remember saying at the time though whoever headed the ball back into the middle was equally as responsible as Berahino for the equalising goal (if not more so as they could have headed it out for a throw in)...but it was many years ago now! I do think Berahino, being a youngster, was an easy target compared to Reid (I'm pretty sure it was him that headed it) though. About the only time I had any sympathy for Berahino.

I'd forgotten about that and your probably right in what you say.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: AlbionFan on January 18, 2021, 10:50:10 AM
I know all fans are fickle but I'd be very surprised if they got a better boss than Nuno , after all he's done for them some of the stuff I've seen..... :o
Can say the same about Moutinho , maybe times catching him up now but a wonderful footballer over the years.....some of the dingle comments towards him  :o

No wonder his agent is looking for another club for him

"Wolverhampton Wanderers manager Nuno Espirito Santo's agent is looking for a new Premier League club for the Portuguese, who signed a new deal at Molineux in September." (Sun)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: SmethDan on January 18, 2021, 10:55:54 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted anywhere but below is a link to the match highlights off wolves own website, enjoy!
In the real derby debate put vila down for me more obnoxious fans you won't find anywhere.
https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/first-team/20210118-highlights-wolves-2-3-west-brom/#

Thanks for the extended highlights as I only got to listen to the game on the radio. From that I have to say Wolves looked better than they sounded (yes, I know it's 'their' highlights). The lad Silva's got something about him but I think it's fair to suggest they've perhaps paid at the top end of his future potential. Cheers again.
Title: Re: Molinuex Mix
Post by: SmethDan on January 18, 2021, 11:00:17 AM
I know all fans are fickle but I'd be very surprised if they got a better boss than Nuno , after all he's done for them some of the stuff I've seen..... :o
Can say the same about Moutinho , maybe times catching him up now but a wonderful footballer over the years.....some of the dingle comments towards him  :o

I'm surprised at your surprise, never let it be forgotten that 'members' from that very support base flobbed on their saviour the Golden Tit.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 18, 2021, 11:03:52 AM
Thanks for the extended highlights as I only got to listen to the game on the radio. From that I have to say Wolves looked better than they sounded (yes, I know it's 'their' highlights). The lad Silva's got something about him but I think it's fair to suggest they've perhaps paid at the top end of his future potential. Cheers again.

I thought Silva was really good to be honest Dan, not sure he was expecting the ball for his goal but he opened himself up and took it really well. A bright star amongst a few fading ones I think........
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on January 18, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
Yeah we'll never know what happened and as you say if we win there's no punch/slap etc.

 I remember saying at the time though whoever headed the ball back into the middle was equally as responsible as Berahino for the equalising goal (if not more so as they could have headed it out for a throw in)...but it was many years ago now! I do think Berahino, being a youngster, was an easy target compared to Reid (I'm pretty sure it was him that headed it) though. About the only time I had any sympathy for Berahino.
I heard that Berahino made a comment that he wasn't bothered if we got relegated because he would be staying in the Prem whatever and that's when Mozza clocked him.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 18, 2021, 11:38:40 AM
I thought Silva was really good to be honest Dan, not sure he was expecting the ball for his goal but he opened himself up and took it really well. A bright star amongst a few fading ones I think........

Not sure Boly meant to find him either. Think he just healed the ball on blind. Thought we were a bit unlucky with that goal, if Pereira doesnt end up on his backside Silva is offside as well.

The second goal was far worse Livermore has to head a simple clearance and fails then Ajayi has to thump it clear and fails. Should not be conceding that goal.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on January 18, 2021, 11:47:49 AM
Anyone watching on BT will have seen the camera's  pan over to bully when their second one went in. Jumping about like a good un. So sorry they didn't pan over to him at the end.
Why was he there? Was it an essential journey? Fine the git.

Realy missed listening to dingle don as well
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 18, 2021, 11:50:15 AM

Why was he there? Was it an essential journey? Fine the git.




I actually agree and that's not being ante Wolves or anything. Why WAS he there? He wasn't doing commentary as he was in the stand. Why was he allowed to attend?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 18, 2021, 12:11:52 PM

I actually agree and that's not being ante Wolves or anything. Why WAS he there? He wasn't doing commentary as he was in the stand. Why was he allowed to attend?

He was a guest of BT Sport and did an interview pre match from what I can see. Other than that and jump around like a gimp I have no idea.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 18, 2021, 12:18:26 PM
He was a guest of BT Sport and did an interview pre match from what I can see.

That isnt a good enough reason surely?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 18, 2021, 12:23:09 PM
That isnt a good enough reason surely?

Probably not but you know that it won’t be questioned as it is St Steve Bull
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on January 18, 2021, 12:23:40 PM
That isnt a good enough reason surely?

If he was paid, could he argue he was at work?

If he was paid, it was excellent value, based on the "class of 92" gag alone  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 18, 2021, 12:31:37 PM

I actually agree and that's not being ante Wolves or anything. Why WAS he there? He wasn't doing commentary as he was in the stand. Why was he allowed to attend?

He shouldn't be there , same as Eze last week going to watch QPR. Some ways it's funny him being there watching us do them on there own turf once again.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pie on January 18, 2021, 12:43:19 PM
Might have been posted elsewhere but this is hilarious.

A real selection of dingles and how their day turned out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_wfWsb3DQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Finerrz
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Albionic on January 18, 2021, 12:49:11 PM

I actually agree and that's not being ante Wolves or anything. Why WAS he there? He wasn't doing commentary as he was in the stand. Why was he allowed to attend?

he's their equivalent of Boiler Man,  a dumb object for away fans to deride !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggies_24 on January 18, 2021, 12:50:01 PM
Might have been posted elsewhere but this is hilarious.

A real selection of dingles and how their day turned out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_wfWsb3DQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Finerrz

Brilliant that is didn’t hear anything from dingle Dave in the 2nd half after his sushing, wonder why?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Albionic on January 18, 2021, 01:03:06 PM
Brilliant that is didn’t hear anything from dingle Dave in the 2nd half after his sushing, wonder why?

Thanks for sharing, most enjoyable, under-statement !!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on January 18, 2021, 01:51:06 PM
Might have been posted elsewhere but this is hilarious.

A real selection of dingles and how their day turned out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_wfWsb3DQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Finerrz
That is comedy "Gold"

Handball! Handball! :D
2-11 ;D ;D
Scored from a long throw, what year is it?  :) :)
They can't score goals properly ;D
Shhhhhhhhhh :-X :-X :-X

I didn't think I could smile more than I did on Saturday night but that was tremendous. If you have 9 minutes to spare, watch the lot  :D :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: skyclad99 on January 18, 2021, 02:11:08 PM
Might have been posted elsewhere but this is hilarious.

A real selection of dingles and how their day turned out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_wfWsb3DQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Finerrz

Absolutely superb!

Schhhh, schhhhh😂😂😂

What a plank!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 18, 2021, 02:19:44 PM
Its a photo of Steve Bull**** face at full time that I really want to see  :D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KYA on January 18, 2021, 03:07:39 PM
Might have been posted elsewhere but this is hilarious.

A real selection of dingles and how their day turned out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0_wfWsb3DQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=Finerrz
Thank you so much that was hilarious I feel their pain  :P
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 18, 2021, 04:16:58 PM
Absolutely superb!

Schhhh, schhhhh😂😂😂

What a plank!
never beat the Baggiessssss don't they ever learn :-[ ;D :D ;) :) 8) :-*
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Albionic on January 18, 2021, 04:40:08 PM
never beat the Baggiessssss don't they ever learn :-[ ;D :D ;) :) 8) :-*

learning implies intelligence !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 18, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
I don't get their complaints about the Gibbs 'handball'.  Silva has, clear as day, fouled the keeper causing him to drop it onto Gibbs - there's no way even if the pen had been given VAR wouldn't have ruled it out.  Gibbs hands are in that position because he's stopping his movement so he doesn't collide with the keeper.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 18, 2021, 04:45:37 PM
I don't get their complaints about the Gibbs 'handball'.  Silva has, clear as day, fouled the keeper causing him to drop it onto Gibbs - there's no way even if the pen had been given VAR wouldn't have ruled it out.  Gibbs hands are in that position because he's stopping his movement so he doesn't collide with the keeper.

They can have no complaints over any of the 4 key decisions. In that respect Oliver had a good game.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 18, 2021, 05:15:16 PM
I did miss not being able to hear Don Goodman expert comments pretending to be unbiased. He always seems to get allocated the wrong matches. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: SmethDan on January 18, 2021, 05:16:43 PM
They can have no complaints over any of the 4 key decisions. In that respect Oliver had a good game.

I think you should sign up to the Mol' Mix under your username here to explain the finer points of your rationale. You appear quite a popular focus for debate over there. If you do then make sure you post a link to the thread on here  ;D .
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mifos on January 18, 2021, 05:18:55 PM
I don't get their complaints about the Gibbs 'handball'.  Silva has, clear as day, fouled the keeper causing him to drop it onto Gibbs - there's no way even if the pen had been given VAR wouldn't have ruled it out.  Gibbs hands are in that position because he's stopping his movement so he doesn't collide with the keeper.

I'm so glad someone else has pointed this out ... I've had whatsapp and facebook shares from dingles with freeze frames of Gibbs touching the ball ... all conveniently forgetting to mention the reason Button dropped the ball onto Gibbs was the clear shove on him by Silva whilst what making what otherwise would have been a routine catch. 

I must admit I thought we'd got away with one for the Boly Pen, though I've also now had time to watch this and freeze frame it.  At the point of contact at least some of Robinson's foot is on the whitewash. This is what VAR must have seen when allowing the pen decision to stand.



Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 18, 2021, 05:38:01 PM
I think you should sign up to the Mol' Mix under your username here to explain the finer points of your rationale. You appear quite a popular focus for debate over there. If you do then make sure you post a link to the thread on here  ;D .

I live rent free in their heads mate. The silly ***** have got a picture of me in their Albion obsessed thread. The irony of the title seems lost on them.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on January 18, 2021, 05:39:11 PM
Dermot on Sky said this...

"The precedent has already been set with this earlier in the season with Steven Bergwijn and Ezgjan Alioski where we had a similar decision where the player's body is half in the area and half out and because he is partly in the area, it is deemed a penalty because that is how the foul is committed.

What you would say is the referee [Michael Oliver] has got a great view, the VAR [David Coote] checks if it is on the line, his body clearly breaks the line and therefore a penalty is given."