[smethwickw]

I would imagine that it is a case of one or both of his staff not wanting to come. Switzerland is a bit nicer than West Brom.  :

[LiamTheBaggie]

I don't see a scenario where Sean Dyche turns up here. See Steve Cooper.

[iwastherein68]

The wording is odd, it reads as "could not assemble" and also says that money wasn't an issue....might it be that Wicky wanted a particular someone and that person didn't fancy relocating, or wasn't available? As Tambag writes, if this is the case, then thats not a fault of the clubs tbf.

It is entirely the fault of Andrew Nestor that after lengthy interviews with the guy , the club is now totally embarassed.

[DevonInStripes]

Did I read that Pearce had been heavily involved in the process ?

[victor mature]

I have no preference on our next coach/manager but feel a bit relieved it's not Wicky. I think we need someone who is used to getting stuck in rather than going round with a clipboard

[alex1]

What would make it a real disaster is if we get bounced into taking on one of the managerial dinosaurs, Dyche in particular. Ron Gourlay all over again.

[Dan]

What would make it a real disaster is if we get bounced into taking on one of the managerial dinosaurs, Dyche in particular. Ron Gourlay all over again.

You don't have to worry about Dyche, he wouldn't give us the time of day. We would be lucky to get him.

The "poor mans" Dyche in Rob Edwards is probably the best case scenario at this point.

[iwastherein68]

Did I read that Pearce had been heavily involved in the process ?

Yes good idea that mate of course it's Pearce's fault. Nestor is the problem and Shilen is making a big mistake giving him control.
Where has Nestor got sufficient experience to be taking on this very imprtant role ...................research his background and he may find you a good formula 1 driver or baseball player, but we dow need any of them

[Blowee]

Not too fussed if he wasn’t sure for some reason. I guess is back to the drawing board. I’m increasingly thinking let’s stick with the current set up until we really know what we want. It’s taken us a long time in football terms to get where we are with our search and don’t seem any closer. Anyone still in the running will know that they were second or third choice and if it’s going to take another few weeks the transfer window will be shut. Saturday showed just how far from the Premier League we are.

[hardtobeat]

The powers that be are now in a proper mess. They have backed themselves into a position of needing to make an appointment quickly and that is when mistakes are more likely to be made .Failure to make an appointment before Stoke even if it’s only a watching brief will be an ultimate fail, there is then a game on Tuesday and all the time the end of the transfer window is fast approaching.

[baggie53]

Surely Wicky should have checked his preferred coaches were available before he entered talks 

[jimmyj]

It is entirely the fault of Andrew Nestor that after lengthy interviews with the guy , the club is now totally embarassed.

Bit hyperbolic tbf.
Seems we agreed the deal with Wicky, him being the guy we wanted and the hold up was him/us trying to persuade his best mate that Sandwell is a lovely place to live. I don't see that as a failing by the club.

[lewisant]

Quite the disappointment. I had low-key reservations about how he set his teams up and the personnel we have on board not fitting into that but I was very intrigued by Wicky and excited at the prospect of him.

Maybe Wicky moved the goalposts or like others have said - he actually backed out after being unable to assemble his team due to decisions on THIER part and not so much an issue on our part but you would hope these things are discussed at the beginning if they are deal breakers.

I’m definitely getting bored of this now and averaging an extra hour on my phone daily on reading god knows what about all these people.

All I hope for now is that we get Fisher or one of the more solid earlier links. Assuming the third person from last week may now step up?

Don’t know why but Rene Hake doesn’t intrigue me at all.

Interested to hear the views of Standaman on all of this.

[overseas baggie]

Surely Wicky should have checked his preferred coaches were available before he entered talks 

Could well be a work permit issue or that they can’t get released from their current jobs quickly enough

[Blowee]

Surely Wicky should have checked his preferred coaches were available before he entered talks 

Could it be us showing loyalty to some of our current coaches?

[Hunnington Baggie]

Surely Wicky should have checked his preferred coaches were available before he entered talks 

he may well have done, situations change all the time.

Edit: appears to have been visa related, everyone had agreed and happy to go ahead.

[lewisant]

Bit hyperbolic tbf.
Seems we agreed the deal with Wicky, him being the guy we wanted and the hold up was him/us trying to persuade his best mate that Sandwell is a lovely place to live. I don't see that as a failing by the club.

Hyperbole reactions going off all over the place!

It seems to have gone on too long yes and if Wicky came in then great but it’s not embarrassing as a club or anything - nobody actually really cares apart from us fans. Most people outside of WBA would have no idea it’s been 3 weeks or that it was whittled down to 3 last week (if reports are true).

I also don’t think people will care that they may be “second choice” or whatever because ultimately they’ll have applied for a job and been given a chance and being paid a handsome amount to do it, if their ego is that delicate then maybe avoid them.

[overseas baggie]

The club have done all this "due diligence" but seemingly forgot to discuss such a crucial fundamental like his coaching staff.

It really is amateur.

I don’t believe that’s the case at all.  Far too many jumping to conclusions.  It’s far more complicated to bring in a coaching team from overseas, especially from Switzerland.  I strongly suspect work permit obstacles.

[tambag]

If we go for a manager from Europe,what are the rules regarding work permits for him and his staff ?

shame we didn't know the answer to the above

[hardtobeat]

Could well be a work permit issue or that they can’t get released from their current jobs quickly enough

This what the mighty  Dood has said it’s a work permit issue with a back room member Wicky wanted to bring in. Being that kind of bloke I’m a wee bit sceptical as surely this would have been gone into much earlier in the process.
 

[iwastherein68]

Could it be us showing loyalty to some of our current coaches?

Oh yes? and who might those be then?

[OldburyWBA]

Didn't all the coaching staff leave with Corberan?

Brunt is the Loans Manager, Myhill is the reserves goalkeeping coach and Abella is the only one who was involved with the first team but as an analyst not an actual coach.

[lewisant]

Didn't all the coaching staff leave with Corberan?

Brunt is the Loans Manager, Myhill is the reserves goalkeeping coach and Abella is the only one who was involved with the first team but as an analyst not an actual coach.

They did! Then all being Spanish must’ve made it easy.

It seems to be trickling out that Wicky’s back room staff weren’t granted visas. Surely it’s easy to know if you’re going to get a visa or not and we can have people checking these things before getting so far down the line??

[MarkW]

shame we didn't know the answer to the above

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/player-registration/points-based-system

Feel free to peruse at your leisure. I'll try to find the relevant bits and update this post once I do

Edit:

16. An Assistant Manager will only be granted a GBE if:
a) The Assistant Manager will have Partial Responsibility for the first team of the
applicant club.
b) The Assistant Manager holds a UEFA ‘A’ licence/diploma or equivalent.
c) The Assistant Manager has:
i. Managed a club in a Top League for the Prescribed Time; or
ii. Managed an international team for the Prescribed Time which had an
Aggregated FIFA World Ranking of 50 or above for the entire Prescribed
Time.


A Top League is any league in Bands 1-5, of which the Swiss League and MLS are, so that's fine. The Reference Period is either 36 months within the last 5 years or 24 consecutive months in the last five years

[alex1]

It seems to be trickling out that Wicky’s back room staff weren’t granted visas. Surely it’s easy to know if you’re going to get a visa or not and we can have people checking these things before getting so far down the line??

Don't know. Its all become more complicated post Brexit. It may come down to some civil servant in the Government department, and the club would not necessarily be able to second guess that.