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Title: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 17, 2012, 01:17:55 PM
PLEASE KEEP ALL POSTS ABOUT ALBION PLAYERS OUT ON LOAN IN THIS THREAD PLEASE

Chris Wood has joined Millwall on loan

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wood-makes-millwall-switch-371825.aspx

CHRIS Wood has joined Millwall on a youth loan until November 20.

The Baggies have the right to recall the 20-year-old striker after 28 days.

Wood joins the Championship Lions in 17th place and is set to go straight into the squad for tomorrow’s league clash with Cardiff at The Den.

The 20-year-old Kiwi hitman enjoyed successful loan spells at Blues and Bristol City in the same division last term.

He scored ten times in 14 starts and as many substitute appearances during his time at St Andrew's and fired his first-ever professional hat-trick in a 3-0 win over Millwall last September.

Wood also sampled European competition for the first time with the Baggies’ near neighbours.

He joined Derek McInnes’ Robins for the second half of the 2011/12 campaign and scored three times in 19 appearances, including seven as a substitute, to help save them from relegation.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on September 17, 2012, 05:05:18 PM
I hope he does well for them, had a decent season last season.
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 18, 2012, 09:58:22 PM
Played 33 minutes as a substitute in a 2 nil home defeat.
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Post by: KingKoren on September 22, 2012, 06:27:09 PM
Wood scored on his Millwall début.
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Post by: DownInAlbion on September 22, 2012, 06:44:55 PM
i went and watched wood play today for milwall he had a decent game nothing spectacular. looks like his in the right place in the championship though but only his debut so hopefully he will improve over the season
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Post by: OldburyWBA on September 27, 2012, 05:08:01 PM
Kemar Roofe has joined Northampton on a months loan

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/roofe-joins-cobblers-393813.aspx

KEMAR Roofe has joined Northampton Town on a 28-day youth loan until October 24.

The 19-year-old winger signed his first professional contract in January and starred for Baggies reserves last term.

He was an unused substitute for trips to Bournemouth and Manchester City during the 2011/12 campaign.

And this will be the Albion Academy product’s first domestic loan, having enjoyed a short spell in Iceland with Vikingur Reykjavik two summers ago.

Roofe joins the League Two Cobblers in ninth place and his spell at Sixfields includes games against Burton, Gillingham, Bristol Rovers, Colchester, Exeter, Barnet and Bradford.
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Post by: GrGr on September 27, 2012, 05:12:50 PM
Good luck, Kemar!  :)
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Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 29, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/allan-joins-league-one-high-fliers-397030.aspx

Midfielder moves to MK Dons on 28-day youth loan

SCOTT Allan has today joined League One promotion chasers MK Dons on a 28-day youth loan.

The central midfielder, who signed for Albion from Dundee United last January, joins the fourth-placed side ahead of their home game with Crewe today.

 Allan enjoyed a successful loan spell at Portsmouth last term, scoring once in 14 appearances after moving to Fratton Park in February.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on September 29, 2012, 01:22:29 PM
Good luck to Allan hope he impresses for Mk Dons.
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Post by: GrGr on September 29, 2012, 02:13:08 PM
I thought Allan was a winger, he played there for Portsmouth didn't he, I must have missed something. Or is it just that he is versatile?

Anyhow the best of luck to him :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on September 29, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
I thought Allan was a winger, he played there for Portsmouth didn't he, I must have missed something. Or is it just that he is versatile?

Anyhow the best of luck to him :)

Think he can play centrally or out wide.

I think he is talented and is one of of a few youngsters for us I still have aspirations for.

Allan,Berahino, D Daniels and Hurst are our best bets of coming good in my opinion.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on September 29, 2012, 03:32:05 PM
I thought Allan was a winger, he played there for Portsmouth didn't he, I must have missed something. Or is it just that he is versatile?

Anyhow the best of luck to him :)

He's more of a central player, behind the forward.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: bournemouth baggie on September 29, 2012, 04:52:13 PM
I would have preferred him going to a Championship side.
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Post by: B_H_Baggie on October 01, 2012, 01:08:43 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/berahino-makes-posh-move-400471.aspx

SAIDO Berahino has joined Peterborough United on a youth loan until January 2.

 The Baggies have the right to recall the striker after 28 days.

 Berahino made his first-team debut for Albion as a late substitute in August’s 4-2 Capital One Cup victory at Yeovil.

 He moves to the Championship outfit in bottom place and is expected to go straight into the squad for tomorrow’s trip to Barnsley.

 The 19-year-old forward enjoyed successful loan spells at League One Brentford and League Two Northampton last season.

 He netted four times for The Bees in eight appearances, including three as a sub, and prior to that he bagged six goals in 14 league starts for the Cobblers.
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Post by: The Black Pearl on October 01, 2012, 01:32:50 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/berahino-makes-posh-move-400471.aspx

SAIDO Berahino has joined Peterborough United on a youth loan until January 2.

 The Baggies have the right to recall the striker after 28 days.

 Berahino made his first-team debut for Albion as a late substitute in August’s 4-2 Capital One Cup victory at Yeovil.

 He moves to the Championship outfit in bottom place and is expected to go straight into the squad for tomorrow’s trip to Barnsley.

 The 19-year-old forward enjoyed successful loan spells at League One Brentford and League Two Northampton last season.

 He netted four times for The Bees in eight appearances, including three as a sub, and prior to that he bagged six goals in 14 league starts for the Cobblers.

Good, needs game time at the highest level available, player with real potential to make it at Premiership level, good luck to the lad, did go pear shaped during his loan at Brentford though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on October 01, 2012, 01:56:27 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk//news/article/hurst-makes-blues-switch-400776.aspx?

JAMES Hurst has joined Blues on a 28-day youth loan until October 28.

 The 20-year-old right-back goes straight into Lee Clark’s squad for tomorrow night’s Championship trip to Cardiff.

 Hurst made his Barclays Premier League debut in Albion’s 3-0 defeat at Fulham in January 2011 but the closest he has come to the first team so far this term was as an unused substitute in the 4-2 Capital One Cup win at Yeovil in August.

 Last season he captained Baggies reserves to Birmingham Senior Cup glory.

 He also enjoyed loan spells at Blackpool, Shrewsbury and Chesterfield.

 And the full-back helped the Spireites win the Johnstone's Paint Trophy at Wembley in March.
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Post by: Albion79 on October 01, 2012, 02:32:01 PM
Think these are good moves, 3 of our young lads at championship teams and scott allan at a top league one side bodes well for them.

If we can get Mantom and Thorne out to the championship too and Donervon Daniels to a league one side then it means our top youngsters are all playing competitive football.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 01, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
Would have liked Saido to go to a bigger side but at the same time he has more chance of game time at Posh as they only really have two strikers in Barnett and Sinclair.Good luck to the kid.
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Post by: AlbionBest on October 01, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
Good to see the latest two go on loan to the Championship a set up from their last loans and so will be interesting how they cope.

I think Thorne needs that level too.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 01, 2012, 07:52:15 PM
Great to see Hurst and Berahino move up to championship level now. Berahino is th most exciting player to follow but James Hurst may be the most important for this season. If he can have a good spell then maybe he could come into the reckoning for our right back birth.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionBest on October 01, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
Great to see Hurst and Berahino move up to championship level now. Berahino is th most exciting player to follow but James Hurst may be the most important for this season. If he can have a good spell then maybe he could come into the reckoning for our right back birth.

Hurst looked one of our best players pre season (epsecially at Oakwell).
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on October 01, 2012, 08:33:36 PM
It's good to see our young players going to Championship clubs but the important thing is they get time on the pitch. If they can make it at championship level there is hope they can progress to our first team.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: jonny on October 01, 2012, 09:33:34 PM
On a side note, shows how far we have come and how much Blues have fallen if they are loaning our youth players.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on October 01, 2012, 09:49:19 PM
On a side note, shows how far we have come and how much Blues have fallen if they are loaning our youth players.
Not quite, I believe Birmingham are struggling with lack of fit defenders, it's why Paul Robinson is there for a month. Easier to pull a youth from a local team than try to get him from somewhere else.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on October 01, 2012, 09:56:26 PM
On a side note, shows how far we have come and how much Blues have fallen if they are loaning our youth players.

I'm reliably informed they have an injury crisis in the right back department.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Chipperfan on October 02, 2012, 05:51:55 AM
I'm reliably informed they have an injury crisis in the right back department.

Bit like us then.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Floydy on October 02, 2012, 07:55:29 PM
Bit disappointing that only Wood and Roofe start for Milwall and the Cobblers respectively tonight.

Berahino, Allan and Hurst all start on the bench.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 02, 2012, 09:17:52 PM
Berhinho comes on with around 30 mins to go,Hurst already on for Blues.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 03, 2012, 09:01:23 PM
Saido did ok last night according to a few Posh fans i know,already got his own chant too..."We can't say his name so we call him Dave,We can't say his name so we call him Dave......." :) ;D
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Post by: Baggies on October 08, 2012, 10:58:18 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk//news/article/loan-watch-hurst-gets-the-blues-415925.aspx?

Four Albion players in league action

JAMES Hurst limped out of Blues’ 1-0 defeat to Huddersfield after picking up an injury after 63 minutes at St Andrew’s.

Chris Wood played 73 minutes of Millwall’s 2-1 victory over Bolton at The New Den.

Scott Allan featured as a 69th-minute substitute as MK Dons drew 2-2 with Portsmouth at Stadium MK.

And Kemar Roofe started in Northampton’s 3-1 loss at Bristol Rovers before being substituted after 83 minutes.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on October 23, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
Wood has scored two against his former club and neighbours Blues tonight, could of had a hat-trick by all accounts, and may still do as only one half has gone.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 23, 2012, 08:49:24 PM
Great to see Wood score twice tonight, still only twenty and has been at six clubs already.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 23, 2012, 09:32:30 PM
Saido made his first start for Posh tonight, went off after 77 mins.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies54 on October 23, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
Saido Berahino got his first start for Posh tonight versus Huddersfield, one of my mates who is a Posh supporter said he stood out and rates him as a very good player.  Saido was subbed at 77 minutes after assisting both goals to Posh 2-0 up....Posh ended up winning 3-1 not bad for bottom club to beat 3rd in the league.  Well done Saido.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Aixelsyd on October 24, 2012, 12:56:56 AM
Great to see Wood score twice tonight, still only twenty and has been at six clubs already.

Quoted in the paper as wanting a Perm move to Millwall
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 24, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
He has a decent goal scoring record in the Championship, he scored 15 goals last season, just the three so far this season though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggieboyfred on October 24, 2012, 02:11:56 PM
Quoted in the paper as wanting a Perm move to Millwall
totaly understand that , have said before  i like the guy but he is a championship player and would play reguler with a championship club, hope its not millwall though , but can you honestly see him getting a reguler baggies spot in front of Berhano, who also has to go out on loan to get gametime, and he has got all the attributes to become a premier league striker,
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Post by: lewisant on October 24, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
He has a decent goal scoring record in the Championship, he scored 15 goals last season, just the three so far this season though.

In just 7 appearances
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on October 24, 2012, 04:38:13 PM
Very difficult to throw these youngsters in to the PL for a club like us unless they are absolutely sensational talents. Developing young players and selling on for profit is just a part of the business these days. It would be nice to see a Chris Wood or Saido Berahino come through but realistically? More likely they will be sold at some future date.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 24, 2012, 09:20:56 PM
Posh fans at work raving about Saido today,full of running and assists and in general a right handful .See if he keeps his place against Derby on Saturday.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 24, 2012, 09:36:51 PM
Posh fans at work raving about Saido today,full of running and assists and in general a right handful .See if he keeps his place against Derby on Saturday.

Their Chairman put on Twitter today they have agreed a £350k deal to sign a young, promising striker at the end of the season, he wanted to bring it forward but the players club delayed it until next Summer.

First player I thought of was Saido, hope its not though to be honest
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Aixelsyd on October 24, 2012, 09:41:46 PM
Their Chairman put on Twitter today they have agreed a £350k deal to sign a young, promising striker at the end of the season, he wanted to bring it forward but the players club delayed it until next Summer.

First player I thought of was Saido, hope its not though to be honest


£350k?????

I'd honestly feel that we could get a lot more for him than that IF we decide to sell

everything I seen of him looks like he has a really good chance of making it.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 24, 2012, 10:04:31 PM
Their Chairman put on Twitter today they have agreed a £350k deal to sign a young, promising striker at the end of the season, he wanted to bring it forward but the players club delayed it until next Summer.

First player I thought of was Saido, hope its not though to be honest
Its not mate,its a player who is first team at his current club and will only be let go at the end of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 24, 2012, 10:15:40 PM
Glad to hear it  :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 24, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
Saido's review from the Peterborough Evening Telegraph...

Saido Berahino: Very bright, takes up some clever positions, good technician, promising full debut   7


The bloke who cover's Posh is known to be harsh....... :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 25, 2012, 10:15:04 AM
Glad to hear that Sadio had a decent game then, hope he can have a good run in the Posh side.
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Post by: Londonbaggymike on October 25, 2012, 01:05:17 PM
Really hope Saido makes it. He has rave reviews from everywhere he's played and I'm desperate for one of our own to come up through the ranks.
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Post by: GrGr on October 27, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
Chris Wood has scored twice for Millwall today, with about 10 mins left of the game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on October 27, 2012, 04:48:38 PM
Saido has scored 2 goals today.

Our most exciting prospect in my opinion.
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Post by: Londonbaggymike on October 27, 2012, 05:00:22 PM
Two each for Saido and Wood. Not bad at all!
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Post by: Baggies54 on October 27, 2012, 05:06:54 PM
Saido grabs 2 goals as Peterborough beat Derby 3-0....my Posh mate is absolutely raving about him....
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Post by: Dudleylad on October 27, 2012, 05:18:29 PM
I do think he will be one here that actually makes it with us.

Its just about developing him and we are doing that very well at the moment.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 27, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
I do think he will be one here that actually makes it with us.

Its just about developing him and we are doing that very well at the moment.
Trying not to get carried away but i think we have a chance with Saido, he has come a long way already from his loan spell at Northampton a while back.His control has really improved as has his awareness on the ball, will be interesting to hear from a few of my Posh work mates.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 27, 2012, 05:38:04 PM
Just heard Saido's first goal was soft(keeper error),the second well taken and for the second game running he got man of the match.Not bad for only his second start at that level. :D
View from a Posh fan for those who dont know much about Saido...
"Really like the look of Berahino his first touch and hold play is superb, he never stops harrying defenders and deservedly got the bit of luck with the first goal after earlier hitting the bar and the second was a top finish CMS style".
CMS being Craig Makail Smith , former Posh now at Brighton.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on October 27, 2012, 07:01:04 PM
Why are people so quick to write off Wood? What other 20-year old in the UK has his goal scoring record in the Championship?

I believe there is something there. His upside seems to be a goal scoring MAF, which isn't too bad is it?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on October 27, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Just heard Saido's first goal was soft(keeper error),the second well taken and for the second game running he got man of the match.Not bad for only his second start at that level. :D
View from a Posh fan for those who dont know much about Saido...
"Really like the look of Berahino his first touch and hold play is superb, he never stops harrying defenders and deservedly got the bit of luck with the first goal after earlier hitting the bar and the second was a top finish CMS style".
CMS being Craig Makail Smith , former Posh now at Brighton.

If Saido develops the work ethic of Shane Long and the finishing ability of Defoe and SKP, we will have one hell of a player :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 27, 2012, 07:12:15 PM
If Saido develops the work ethic of Shane Long and the finishing ability of Defoe and SKP, we will have one hell of a player :D
Or learns the work ethic of Long,the skill's of Odemwingie and the hold up of Fortune then we are laughing! ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 27, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Why are people so quick to write off Wood? Which other 20-year old in the UK has his goal scoring record in the Championship?

I believe there is something there. His upside seems to be a goal scoring MAF, which isn't too bad is it?
I agree with this, Wood has scored goals wherever he has been in the lower leagues plus goals at International level and in the Europa Cup.He certainly seems to have the knack of being in the right place at the right time,sadly due to lack of pace i don't think he fits in with Clarke's Albion at the minute but he has something to offer someone maybe in the top flight.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 27, 2012, 10:08:59 PM
Really pleased to see Wood score twice again today.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on October 28, 2012, 02:52:54 AM
Peterborough boss Darren Ferguson vowed to make extending striker Saido Berahino's loan a priority after seeing the teenager fire the club out of the relegation zone.

The frontman, borrowed from West Brom until January, put the seal on a 3-0 home win over 10-man Derby with two late goals after captain Michael Bostwick had set them on their way.

Ferguson said: "Saido is only 19 but he is already a very good player. He is intelligent, caused Derby problems all afternoon and fully deserved his goals.

"We have already asked the question about whether we can extend the loan to the end of the season.


"Saido is loving life here and Steve Clarke, the West Brom manager, knows he is being well looked after.

"We've won four of our last six matches and the players deserve an awful lot of credit for showing real bottle in a tough situation.

"Some people were already thinking we were down and out and there were a lot of tough questions being asked, but we have showed what we are capable of doing when playing to the right standard."


http://www.teamtalk.com/peterborough-united/8200174/Peterborough-boss-Darren-Ferguson-hails-Saido-Berahino-after-3-0-win-over-Derby
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Post by: GrGr on October 28, 2012, 03:57:38 AM
Manager Kenny Jackett was thrilled to see Millwall extend their unbeaten run in the Championship to six games with a 4-0 mauling of Huddersfield.

Striker Chris Wood took his Lions tally to five goals since arriving on loan in September with a brace either side of the break, while James Henry and Liam Trotter added goals after 78 and 87 minutes respectively.

"The result pleases me a lot. It was a tight game for quite a long time and I couldn't necessarily see the 4-0 coming," said Jackett.

"The second goal was a very good goal from our point of view after we'd been under a bit of pressure and I think that's what killed the game off. I couldn't see us losing once we'd got that second.

"I thought Darius Henderson was terrific up front. He hasn't got on the scoresheet himself but his link-up play with Chris Wood was really good.

"Chris is a goalscorer and he has produced two very good finishes today but I think even he will say that he has got the perfect foil in Darius.

"We have got Chris on loan from West Brom but there has been no dialogue between the two clubs as yet about that going any further.


"I've read in the press that Chris has said he's pleased to be here and that's nice for me to read.

"He's been on loan at one or two clubs before but maybe not played as much as he has done here. We're glad to have him."


http://www.teamtalk.com/millwall/8200112/Millwall-boss-Kenny-Jackett-purrs-after-4-0-rout-of-Huddersfield

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Looks like Chris needs to be set up by teammates but if he is he will  take care of the business. He played well when Chris Burke et al were setting him up at Birmingham, but (I suspect) faltered a bit when he played with a far weaker team in Bristol City.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Floydy on October 28, 2012, 06:54:00 AM
Saido has scored 2 goals today.

Our most exciting prospect in my opinion.

I know he buffered up my 9 team accumulator   >:(

Seriously though... I have high hopes for Saido
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 28, 2012, 09:03:23 AM
I'm really pleased that Sadio socred twice Yesterday too,  12 goals in just 21 starts so far a pretty impressive start for him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on October 29, 2012, 12:48:44 PM
Scott Allan moved back to Pompey

http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Allan-Back-At-Pompey-3842.aspx

I would have hoped he had got a berth at a championship side given he did well for them last year.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 29, 2012, 12:55:04 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk//news/article/allan-rejoins-pompey-454250.aspx

SCOTT Allan has rejoined Portsmouth on a 28-day loan.

The Baggies midfielder goes straight into the Pompey squad for tonight’s game at Sheffield United.

Allan made four appearances on loan for MK Dons in September, and now returns to Fratton Park for a second spell after scoring once in 15 Championship starts for them last term.

He will also come up against Brentford, Bury, Doncaster, Leyton Orient and Coventry in League One fixtures for the South Coast outfit this time round.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dudleylad on October 29, 2012, 01:45:14 PM
A good safe loan by the club under a manager we know can develop players.  You would think we will utilise this fact over the next few years.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 29, 2012, 02:36:59 PM
Watching the Pompey game tonight, hope he has a good game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albion79 on October 29, 2012, 03:19:26 PM
Good to see our youngsters doing well! I wouldnt want to write Wood off for us but i think the problem he seems to have is he takes a few games to get going and playing well, the ability is there, but as quite often with big players they need a run of games to get going not 5 to 10 mins as a sub here and then, thats the same reason i think Thorne would benefit from playing matches every week too on loan somewhere.

Unfortunately for either of them i just cant see him getting that run of games in the Premiership barring a massive injury crisis, i think both Wood and Thorne are good players but just cant see them getting that opportunity. Berainho seems to be a sharp, quick goalscorer and you could probably see him being on a sub to ease him way into the team on the basis you know he may nick a goal, he seems that sort of player!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on October 29, 2012, 03:33:51 PM
Berahino looks to be a real talent. Hoping to perhaps see him in a baggies shirt in some capacity towards the end of the season if we are in good shape. Wood scores goals wherever he goes in the Championship but its a massive step up to the PL so whether he would carry the same threat there is open to conjecture
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 29, 2012, 08:17:44 PM
Scott Allan in action tonight and looking very impressive. Worth a watch if you can.

Best player on the pitch at the minute.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: DownInAlbion on October 29, 2012, 08:21:31 PM
Scott Allan in action tonight and looking very impressive. Worth a watch if you can.

Best player on the pitch at the minute.



Totally agree! having a fantastic game so far. very tidy feet
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on October 29, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
Scott Allan in action tonight and looking very impressive. Worth a watch if you can.

Best player on the pitch at the minute.

First time i've seen him and he looks amazing, far too good for this level if he can keep this up.

How he hasnt gone to the championship I don't know. After his 28 days get him to Peterborough with Berahino!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on October 30, 2012, 09:34:55 AM
How did Allen do then? Didn't watch the game but heard he was very impressive.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on October 30, 2012, 10:26:11 AM
Very good first half faded/tired in the 2nd,was clearly the most talented individual on the pitch just had the odd lapse in passing without looking.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 03, 2012, 04:37:55 PM
Scott Allan has been sent off for Portsmouth
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: The Black Pearl on November 03, 2012, 04:38:13 PM
 Scott Allan involved in road traffic accident

A MAN has suffered head injuries and is in a critical condition after he was struck by a car driven by Pompey player Scott Allan.



The incident, involving the pedestrian and the 20-year-old’s Audi Q7, happened at 8.50pm last night in Waverley Road.

Hampshire Constabulary said that the pedestrian, from Southsea, was seriously injured and was treated by paramedics and taken to Queen Alexandra Hospital, Cosham, by ambulance.

He was later transferred to the neurological unit at Southampton General Hospital, where he remains in a critical condition.

Waverley Road was closed for two hours as police officers conducted an investigation.

An appeal for witnesses has been put out by the police.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Sergeant Wayne Voller at Fratton Road Policing Unit on 0845 045 45 45, quoting Operation Finch.

Allan is in his second loan stint to Pompey from West Brom and today played in their FA Cup first-round match
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 03, 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Hope Allan will be ok
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 03, 2012, 04:46:04 PM
Hope Allan will be ok
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall.

And let's hope the person hit by the car will be ok...
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on November 03, 2012, 05:02:32 PM
Hope Allan will be ok
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall.

More concerned with the other person involved in the incident to be honest. Won't be great for Scott as he'll have that playing on his mind and that may have played a bit of a part in him being sent off today but there are far more important things than football.

Good that Wood is scoring goals, should be able to get a decent price for him in January.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on November 03, 2012, 05:03:02 PM
Hope Allan will be ok
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall.

Why are you hoping Alllan will be ok, but not the person he run over?  ???
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 03, 2012, 05:04:42 PM
Hope Allan will be ok
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall.

That's a bit of a disappointing comment to be honest. I know Allan is one of ours but considering the fella looks in a bad condition I'd much rather he be ok than Allan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 03, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
That's bit of a disappointing comment to be honest. I know Allan is one of ours but considering the fella looks in a bad condition I'd much rather he be ok than Allan.

I can only think WBASPE77 didn't really realize what had happened there. Terrible accident I hope both people involved will be ok.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 03, 2012, 05:39:50 PM
I didnt read all of it sorry, of course I hope the person who got ran over will make a full recovery asap.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Sessegod on November 03, 2012, 06:17:33 PM
Bad couple of days for him by looks of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-20194194

I hope the guy he hit pulls through
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: The Black Pearl on November 03, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
Hope Allan will be ok
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall.

I'm sure he meant nothing by that.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Barrington on November 04, 2012, 02:33:28 AM
Just by reading the initial reports, it seems as though Allan has maybe been the driver of a vehicle that through no major fault of his own has collided with a pedestrian. If this is true, we can only hope for the full recovery of the pedestrian and that Allan doesn't suffer from too much mental trauma. Let's just hope that it was a completely un-avoidable accident, although that won't be much of a relief to the poor chap and his family concerned at the moment.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 04, 2012, 12:17:04 PM
That's a bit of a disappointing comment to be honest. I know Allan is one of ours but considering the fella looks in a bad condition I'd much rather he be ok than Allan.

Why if it wasn't Allan's fault?

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 04, 2012, 12:54:03 PM
Why if it wasn't Allan's fault?

The last thing Scott Allan wants is this whole incident playing on his mind. As Barrington rightly points out, the sooner the chap makes a quick recovery the sooner Allan can forget about the whole incident and concentrate on the football. I don't think Football would be at the top of my mind had I been in Scott Allan's shoes.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 04, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
Started a thread on Owls Talk to see how Saido Berahino played yesterday and it apepared he was rather quiet although no fault of his own:

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/183121-saido-berahino/

Replies will probably continue in that thread so it's worth a check to see if they say anything different.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: albion59 on November 04, 2012, 05:52:43 PM
Started a thread on Owls Talk to see how Saido Berahino played yesterday and it apepared he was rather quiet although no fault of his own:

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/183121-saido-berahino/

Replies will probably continue in that thread so it's worth a check to see if they say anything different.
i was watching final score yesterday and every time they went to the ground the commentator was raving about berahino kept on about the lad on loan from west brom looking really good.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on November 04, 2012, 09:02:46 PM
Why if it wasn't Allan's fault?

Because the guy in question is in a critical state in hospital, any decent human beings thoughts would be with the person who is fighting for his life, regarless of fault/responsibility in an incident such as this one.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 04, 2012, 09:19:19 PM
I'd much rather he be ok than Allan.

Because the guy in question is in a critical state in hospital, any decent human beings thoughts would be with the person who is fighting for his life, regarless of fault/responsibility in an incident such as this one.


Obviously I hope the person recovers. I just don't see what reasoning there is to preference one persons well-being over another if there is no blame attached. It comes across to me as if Liam is suggesting that Allan is culpable and it's therefore okay for him to suffer. Allan shouldn't have to suffer if he did nothing wrong and he will be I'm sure.

Perhaps a simple I hope they both recover would be the most apt response.





Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 04, 2012, 09:28:16 PM
i was watching final score yesterday and every time they went to the ground the commentator was raving about berahino kept on about the lad on loan from west brom looking really good.

Yes, I did see that actually. I do find it hard to believe he was that good to be honest because the game was a complete snoozefest apparently. I'd been reading the commentary and popping over to Owls Talk for the updates and they said there was completely nothing happening. I guess with all strikers, if they're given no service then they're bound to struggle.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 04, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Obviously I hope the person recovers. I just don't see what reasoning there is to preference one persons well-being over another if there is no blame attached. It comes across to me as if Liam is suggesting that Allan is culpable and it's therefore okay for him to suffer. Allan shouldn't have to suffer if he did nothing wrong and he will be I'm sure.

Perhaps a simple I hope they both recover would be the most apt response.

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was thinking of Scott Allan's mental state to be honest. If the person he had knocked down (which to what I've read is accidental) had unfortunately passed away, the burden it would have on Scott Allan would be enormous and you would think would certainly put football on the back burner. The quicker the person who is in a critical conidtion recovers, the sooner Scott Allan can concentrate on his football and move on from this unfortunate incident.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 04, 2012, 09:42:27 PM
I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was thinking of Scott Allan's mental state to be honest. If the person he had knocked down (which to what I've read is accidental) had unfortunately passed away, the burden it would have on Scott Allan would be enormous and you would think would certainly put football on the back burner. The quicker the person who is in a critical conidtion recovers, the sooner Scott Allan can concentrate on his football and move on from this unfortunate incident.

Fair enough, I still don't understand your previous comment, but I echo your sentiments above.





Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies54 on November 04, 2012, 09:52:11 PM
Started a thread on Owls Talk to see how Saido Berahino played yesterday and it apepared he was rather quiet although no fault of his own:

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/183121-saido-berahino/

Replies will probably continue in that thread so it's worth a check to see if they say anything different.

Read the replies from the Owls and probably right as the general consensus amongst Posh fans is that Peterborough play a lot better against higher teams and always struggle versus bottom half. (I live in the Peterborough area)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Tipton Baggie on November 07, 2012, 04:47:00 PM
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/new-appeal-over-scott-allan-crash-1-4445220


suprised no one mentioned this...


got sent off aswell last saturday
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 07, 2012, 05:47:15 PM
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/new-appeal-over-scott-allan-crash-1-4445220


suprised no one mentioned this...


got sent off aswell last saturday

Obviously not read the thread through then mate  :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 09, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
Mantom joins Walsall on a youth loan until Jan. 3rd.

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/mantom-rejoins-walsall-476483.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Tipton Baggie on November 09, 2012, 06:57:11 PM
Obviously not read the thread through then mate  :D
i cor read im from tipton, i can just about write thats enough ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies54 on November 12, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
On Saturday 5-20 kick off Peterborough vs Blackburn...good chance to watch Saido Berahino in action.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on November 12, 2012, 06:14:37 PM
Saido had a hand in Posh taking the lead on Saturday,he got subbed and Ferguson Jr got booed :).They then lost the game 2-1,sadly as i suspected I'm told Saido is living on scraps chance wise but still making a good impression.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 12, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
Sounds like he is doing very well at Posh which is good to see, hopefully he will have a good game against Blackburn.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on November 18, 2012, 04:02:26 PM
Wood scored a late winner for Milwall today with his head. He's doing well there I think.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 18, 2012, 05:03:20 PM
Wood scored a late winner for Milwall today with his head. He's doing well there I think.
http://www.millwallfc.co.uk//news/article/wood-news-494025.aspx?pageView=full

His loan has been extended to January 1st.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: geoff on November 18, 2012, 07:00:55 PM
Yet again scores in Millwall's 1-0 win over Leeds


Late Chris Wood goal gives Millwall win over Leeds

Chris Wood's 85th-minute header finally broke down 10-man Leeds as in-form Millwall extended their unbeaten run to 10 games in the npower Championship.

Visiting winger Luke Varney saw red just three minutes into the second half for an elbow, albeit not malicious, which struck Adam Smith in the face.

Millwall, who had enjoyed the better of a largely lacklustre first half, subsequently took the game to the visitors and went close on more than one occasion.

But they did not do enough to trouble Paddy Kenny between the posts, with Leeds - who provided little threat of their own all afternoon - deserving some credit for holding their own.

That was until five minutes from time when Shane Lowry's left-wing cross was met by the head of New Zealand international Wood from close range at the far post, a seventh goal of the season for the West Brom loanee.

It was enough to inflict a third successive defeat on Leeds, who fell to an emphatic 6-1 home reverse against Watford last weekend, and left the Yorkshire outfit winless in seven.

An attendance of 13,117 generated huge noise prior to kick-off but, as is so often the case in games between rival sides, the intense atmosphere was not matched by quality on the pitch.

Amid a sloppy opening to proceedings, Millwall's Liam Feeney was first to trouble the scoreline with a shot from distance which flew over the crossbar.

It was certainly an end-to-end encounter but a distinct lack of class was missing in either final third.

Liam Trotter fired an effort narrowly wide for the Lions before Mark Beevers saw a header cleared off the line by Tom Lees.

Andy Keogh's near-post effort brought a save out of Kenny, the first of either keeper, in the 41st minute.

Keogh arguably came the closest to breaking the deadlock in the first half just three minutes later as his fine right-footed effort from the left channel flew past Kenny and wide of the target.

But an ordinary first half was soon forgotten within three minutes of the restart as Varney saw red, his flailing arm finding the face of Smith as he backed into the Lions defender.

The red card immediately cranked up the atmosphere in the stands and upped Millwall's tempo on the pitch.

Wood fired over when he really should have passed with team-mates well placed before Leeds defender Lee Peltier headed off the line.

The home side were turning the screw and Chris Taylor and substitute James Henry fired just wide in quick succession after the hour mark.

However, the initial burst of goalmouth action was succeeded by very little until Wood's 85th-minute winner as Leeds appeared set for a creditable point.

Millwall wasted a couple of chances to add a second late on, Henry and Wood - on an afternoon of wayward shooting - failing to find the target.


http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/late-chris-wood-goal-gives-millwall-win-over-leeds-8327132.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/late-chris-wood-goal-gives-millwall-win-over-leeds-8327132.html)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 18, 2012, 07:08:36 PM
Great to see him score again, especially the winner against Leeds.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 19, 2012, 06:31:13 AM
"...

Jackett's side is built around solid virtues, with a giant at the back in Danny Shittu and another at the front in Chris Wood.

For all that he was to win the game with a header, it was Wood's willingness to plough channels towards the flanks, rather than his ability to dominate in the air, that Millwall most relied on. The best chance of the opening half came when he ran down the right before sliding a pass across the edge of the penalty area which Andy Keogh swept wide.

Five minutes from the end Wood won the ball in midfield, turned and lumbered towards the penalty area, arriving all alone and just in time to head Shane Lowry's excellent cross beyond Paddy Kenny. This was due to be the last game of his loan from West Bromwich Albion, his 11 starts bringing seven goals, five wins and the club's first 10-game unbeaten run since 1988-89. Millwall were understandably delighted when the New Zealander and his parent club agreed after this match to extend the deal. Extending deals, though, is precisely the last thing on Leeds's mind.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/football-league-blog/2012/nov/18/millwall-neil-warnock-leeds-united
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 19, 2012, 08:15:15 AM
Hopefully he can continue his good run for the next few weeks. He has done a really god job for Millwall.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionwarrior on November 19, 2012, 08:19:57 AM
Should Lakuku be recalled. Wood may well be given a run with the 1st team?

 8)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: geoff on November 20, 2012, 08:48:09 AM
Woods stay with Millwall extended.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8259522/Chris-Wood-has-extended-his-Millwall-stay-after-a-successful-run-with-the-club
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 20, 2012, 09:40:12 PM
Scott Allan has scored for Pompey tonight, currently losing 3-2 at home to Leyton Orient.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 20, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
Scott Allan has scored for Pompey tonight, currently losing 3-2 at home to Leyton Orient.
least they're scoring now. They've had a goal drought since he was suspended.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on November 20, 2012, 11:32:46 PM
Any news on the accident he was involved in. Is the guy recovering?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on November 21, 2012, 02:49:28 PM
I've noticed that George Thorne has gone on loan to Peterborough for two months.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Floydy on November 21, 2012, 03:00:12 PM
I've noticed that George Thorne has gone on loan to Peterborough for two months.

I find that strange being as we lose Mulumbu to ACON I think in early January.

Is Berahino still there? It will be interesting to see if/how they link up.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: leeiswba on November 21, 2012, 03:15:19 PM
I find that strange being as we lose Mulumbu to ACON I think in early January.

Is Berahino still there? It will be interesting to see if/how they link up.

I dont, he is back 3rd January so if he is needed for when Mulumbu goes he will have had 6 weeks competitive action instead of having none like if he stayed here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albion79 on November 21, 2012, 04:21:06 PM
Good move for Thorne, i think Peteborough are a decent footballing side.

Also on Twitter just Darragh MacAnthony the Peterborough Owner tweeted saying -

'Really thankful to WBA for loans recently,proper club going in right direction who were pleasure to deal with as opposed to others up top!'

Good words all round for us!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 21, 2012, 05:12:52 PM
Really pleased for the young lad to be getting Championship football, I hope he makes a good impact.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: The Black Pearl on November 21, 2012, 05:15:02 PM
Good move for Thorne, i think Peteborough are a decent footballing side.

Also on Twitter just Darragh MacAnthony the Peterborough Owner tweeted saying -

'Really thankful to WBA for loans recently,proper club going in right direction who were pleasure to deal with as opposed to others up top!'

Good words all round for us!

That is an impresive endorsement of our policy.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on November 21, 2012, 06:36:50 PM
Keep sending them out. Thats how you end up with a real player like a Cleverley or a Sturridge
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 21, 2012, 09:44:27 PM
Keep sending them out. Thats how you end up with a real player like a Cleverley or a Sturridge

You picked two naff examples.

I we finally seeing the David Oldfield connection coming into play?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on November 21, 2012, 10:08:19 PM
You picked two naff examples.

I we finally seeing the David Oldfield connection coming into play?

What makes you say that Koren? They both play for Top 3 sides. Would they if they hadnt gone out and learnt their craft?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 22, 2012, 09:44:36 AM
What makes you say that Koren? They both play for Top 3 sides. Would they if they hadnt gone out and learnt their craft?

They do play for too very good teams, but I think they have quite a way to go before they become top players.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on November 22, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
They do play for too very good teams, but I think they have quite a way to go before they become top players.

Both have full international caps. Cant get any higher than that for a young player? The thread is debating the merits of loaning out young players not the best players in the league?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on November 22, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
Looks like Donervon Daniels and Cameron Gayle are off on loan whilst Leeds are interested in Jerome Thomas.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: phbaggies on November 22, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
Thomas has gone to Leeds until Jan

Gayle to Shrewsbury and Daniels to Tranmere on youth loans
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 22, 2012, 04:19:17 PM
Thomas has gone to Leeds until Jan

Gayle to Shrewsbury and Daniels to Tranmere on youth loans

Hopefully JT can get match practice and fitness and come back fully fit.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on November 22, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Thomas has gone to Leeds until Jan


This has to be one of the biggest examples of how far we've come.

Leeds, the big money fat cats of massive transfer and Champions' league fame, now fallen on hard time, have had to borrow our crocked winger, who will no doubt walk into their first team.

Compare this to the late 90s and it's like we're all in one massive shared tripp! Loving it!!!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: reiss on November 22, 2012, 04:32:30 PM

 Hope JT does well at Leeds, ive never been his biggest fan, but would be decent back up for our wingers.

 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albion79 on November 22, 2012, 04:36:07 PM
Big move for JT, i am a fan of his and think he adds something to the squad but i feel its 50/50 now for his Albion future. Its good he is going to get hopefully regular football with Leeds but i would of thought with a lot of games coming up between now and new year if he was a big part of Clarkes plans he would of stayed around, do think its a good move for him to get football but possible the signs are there this is the end of his Albion career.

I think he is out of contract end of the season too and i cant help but feel with El Ghanassy still not really figuring, we have him on a years loan with a view to a permanent move and that he may get more of a chance that Thomas, also i think Thomas has been fit around 6 weeks now and not even got on the bench when may be would think a winger who can beat somebody, who is fresh, etc would be there as an option. On the flipside, with Odemwingie possibly away for African Nations maybe its viewed Thomas will come back ready to go, or we may have a major turnaround in fortunes and a dip in form between now and the end of his loan spell but just have a feeling that JT's Albion future may be over.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 22, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
Hope JT does well at Leeds, ive never been his biggest fan, but would be decent back up for our wingers.
The first season he had here, he was really impressive, since then he has done well at times.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: reiss on November 22, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
The first season he had here, he was really impressive, since then he has done well at times.

thought 09/10 he was brilliant, but since we've been back in the prem i think hes been really average
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 22, 2012, 04:42:41 PM
thought 09/10 he was brilliant, but since we've been back in the prem i think hes been really average

His defensive work hasn't been the best either, I still think he has a chance of playing for us in the future, would always be a good option to have on the bench.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 22, 2012, 05:06:18 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/thomas-makes-leeds-move-503153.aspx

JEROME Thomas has joined Leeds United on loan until January 3.

The Baggies have the right to recall the 29-year-old winger after 28 days.

A series of injury niggles since pre-season have prevented Thomas from playing a part in Albion’s first team so far this season.

But he has played two Barclays Under-21 Premier League games in the last four weeks after returning from a minor knee operation.

He joins Neil Warnock's United in 18th place in the Championship after 17 games.

Cameron Gayle and Donervorn Daniels have joined Shrewsbury Town and Tranmere Rovers respectively on youth loans until January 5.

The Baggies have the right to recall either of the young defenders after 28 days.

The Barclays Under-21 Premier League regulars will each experience their first taste of loan football.

Gayle moves to New Meadow with Graham Turner’s men in 20th place in League One, while Daniels heads to Prenton Park with Rovers top of the same division.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on November 22, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
Big, big fan of JT so hopefully he does well at Leeds and can come back and force his way into the first team picture.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on November 22, 2012, 06:10:56 PM
Leeds fans will be happy with that. Will allow him to get right up to match fitness.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MattSTFC on November 22, 2012, 08:51:23 PM
Any views on Cameron Gayle?

I have to say, if he's anything close to the last right back we took on loan from yourselves (James Hurst) then he'll be fine.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 22, 2012, 08:55:47 PM
What makes you say that Koren? They both play for Top 3 sides. Would they if they hadnt gone out and learnt their craft?

Both overrated, average players. Haven't a clue if their loans improved them, but they're not the best.

Good to hear that some more of our younger players are going to get an opportunity to play at a decent level as well. Think the loan for JT could be very good for him; hopefully he comes back with fitness and form.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on November 22, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
Any views on Cameron Gayle?

I have to say, if he's anything close to the last right back we took on loan from yourselves (James Hurst) then he'll be fine.

Saw him play for our reserves at Worcester City in pre-season, played centre half that game but looks tidy on the ball. Bit small for Centre Back I think, looked perfect size to be a right back. Had a bit of pace as well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on November 22, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Saw him play for our reserves at Worcester City in pre-season, played centre half that game but looks tidy on the ball. Bit small for Centre Back I think, looked perfect size to be a right back. Had a bit of pace as well.

Pretty sure he is a right back.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on November 22, 2012, 09:28:00 PM
Pretty sure he is a right back.

Yeah I think he's been playing there for U21's, guess they were short at Centre Back for the Worcester City game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MattSTFC on November 22, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
Thanks folks
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on November 22, 2012, 10:39:21 PM
Both overrated, average players. Haven't a clue if their loans improved them, but they're not the best.

Good to hear that some more of our younger players are going to get an opportunity to play at a decent level as well. Think the loan for JT could be very good for him; hopefully he comes back with fitness and form.

Cant agree there Koren. Cleverley went out to Watford and Wigan before coming back and cracking the Man Utd line up. Fergie woudnt put him in if he was average. Man Utd dont do average, most successful side in PL history. Also made the England squad so Roy must see it as well. Sturridge still not fully cracked the Chelsea first 11 but thats probably the hardest job in the league simply because they dont use youngsters. I expect a lot of top level interest in him when he leaves Chelsea. For me they are both talented young players.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on November 23, 2012, 05:38:50 AM
Good move for Thomas, he needs games to get fit.

Glad that Cameron Gayle and Donervon Daniels get the chance to get some first team experience.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 23, 2012, 07:09:08 AM
Good move for Thomas, he needs games to get fit.

Glad that Cameron Gayle and Donervon Daniels get the chance to get some first team experience.

I just don't think we will see Thomas feature for us much anymore.
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Post by: phbaggies on November 23, 2012, 09:39:18 AM
I just don't think we will see Thomas feature for us much anymore.
Its a clever move by us, he can get up to 100% match fit for 6 weeks before we lose Mulumbu and possibly Odemwingie for up to a month in January, just gives us another fully fit attacking option to soften the blow if required.
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Post by: koren on November 23, 2012, 11:57:43 AM
I just don't think we will see Thomas feature for us much anymore.
Agreed.Seems that we have enough players to play on wings already,I think he will leave on free transfer in summer...
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Post by: WBASPE77 on November 23, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
I suppose a lot of it will be down to injuries of other players. As it currently stands he will do well to make our 18. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionLegend on November 23, 2012, 07:59:27 PM
Tweet from opta:

Quote
Chris Wood has scored six goals in his last six appearances for Millwall. Roaring.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on November 24, 2012, 04:33:52 PM
Chris Wood has scored again today for Millwall, they are winning one nil at Blackburn.
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Post by: BaggieBirdRus on November 24, 2012, 05:56:58 PM
Scored 7 games in a row now...
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Post by: geoff on November 24, 2012, 06:03:16 PM

He Got 2

http://www.london24.com/sport/championship/millwall/wood_hits_third_brace_of_season_as_lions_roll_rovers_over_1_1707774
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Post by: kris_boing on November 24, 2012, 06:05:20 PM
Scored 7 games in a row now...

Hope it becomes 8 on Wednesday at Molineux.  ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 24, 2012, 06:06:46 PM
Millwall will certianly want to sign him they have been on a great run since he has been at the club, lets hope they keep it going at Wolves on Tuesday night.
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Post by: Albion79 on November 24, 2012, 06:41:43 PM
Well pleased for Chris Wood, always seems a nice bloke too and great that he cant stop scoring!

I still cant see him ever getting a proper chance at Albion (hope i am wrong) but i would be in no rush to sell him, he is young, getting goals and perhaps different to our other strikers (except maybe Fortune) in his style, hopefully one day he will get the chance!

Peterborough Owner was moaning about Peterborough being negative on Twitter  ealrier but he tweeted that the midfielder they signed from WBA was quality and had real class and skill and couldnt wait to see more of him! Assume he meant Thorne!
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Post by: Greenock Baggie on November 24, 2012, 06:49:05 PM
Just seen the Wood goal for Millwall at Blackburn on skysports.......jesus christ what a belter !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on November 24, 2012, 07:09:24 PM
At the end of this season we lose Lukaku and we'll probably let go of Fortune (I really do love the guy, but we're moving on).

Now Rosenberg has not, as yet set the world alight, so we'll have Pete and Long left who are proven goalscorers.

It's totally realistic that Wood and Saido will get there chance. In fact, if we qualify for Europe (the first time I've said this out loud  :o ) I would actually expect one of them to get pitch time in that season.

Wood is aiming at a 20 goal season and has already scored 9 this year at International level (granted, against porrer teams, but you can only score who you're put up against)

If Albion sell Wood at all, especially for less than £4mill I think it would be an act of madness!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 24, 2012, 07:14:28 PM
At the end of this season we lose Lukaku and we'll probably let go of Fortune (I really do love the guy, but we're moving on).

Now Rosenberg has not, as yet set the world alight, so we'll have Pete and Long left who are proven goalscorers.

It's totally realistic that Wood and Saido will get there chance. In fact, if we qualify for Europe (the first time I've said this out loud  :o ) I would actually expect one of them to get pitch time in that season.

Wood is aiming at a 20 goal season and has already scored 9 this year at International level (granted, against porrer teams, but you can only score who you're put up against)

If Albion sell Wood at all, especially for less than £4mill I think it would be an act of madness!

Were unable to make a real jugdement on Rosenburg. I can see Wood getting 20 goals this season he is playing really well. However I cant see a Championship club spending 4 million on him just yet.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on November 24, 2012, 08:15:11 PM
Were unable to make a real jugdement on Rosenburg. I can see Wood getting 20 goals this season he is playing really well. However I cant see a Championship club spending 4 million on him just yet.

I don't want anyone to. I don't want Chris to leave, I'm just saying that is where the bidding should start (should the management wish to sell him)

I'd love Marcus to come good and this January will be the perfect chance for him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on November 24, 2012, 08:23:01 PM
Whoever wants rid of Wood is MAD......

Sorry maybe his general all round play isnt the best YET, but his goals speak for themselves and goalscorers are hard to find..

He is scoring regularly at a very good level of football, we should keep him without a doubt
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mike on November 24, 2012, 08:48:22 PM
If his contract is up at the end of the season, we realy have messed up as i can't seem him signing a new contract. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 24, 2012, 09:13:41 PM
If his contract is up at the end of the season, we realy have messed up as i can't seem him signing a new contract.

I suppose that depends on who leaves in the summer if anyone does leave. Come the end of the season we will have a pretty experainced Championship players with a decent goal scoring record considering he is only 20.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionwarrior on November 24, 2012, 09:18:29 PM
Seems like Woods value is increasing by the week.

What length of contract is he on anyway? and would he fill a hole if Lukaku goes back to Chelsea?

Just a thought
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Post by: dan7heman on November 25, 2012, 12:14:51 AM
The club dont need to do anything yet...

There is a 1 year option in the clubs favour.. so they can take that up at anytime
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 25, 2012, 12:20:01 AM
Seems like Woods value is increasing by the week.

What length of contract is he on anyway? and would he fill a hole if Lakuku goes back to Chelsea?

Just a thought

I believe Wood signed a 3 year contract in 2009, so it runs out this summer, but the club has an option for another year.

Since last season Wood has played 55 games in the Championship and scored 20 goals. Good numbers for a 20 year old.

Apparently the goal he scored today was a screamer. I think we would be mad to sell too soon and cheaply. Fletcher cost how many millions? Carroll? Connor Wickham?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionwarrior on November 25, 2012, 12:43:44 AM
He may well get a chance in the new year ... But if not, I'm sure Albion will want Top Dollar for him if he goes .... I would have liked to have seen what he could do in the PL ..... But we can't play everybody obviously ... He may warrant a run if Lakuku gets recalled and when Odenwingie goes off for a month
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: rubyruby on November 25, 2012, 08:22:43 PM
I believe Wood signed a 3 year contract in 2009, so it runs out this summer, but the club has an option for another year.

Since last season Wood has played 55 games in the Championship and scored 20 goals. Good numbers for a 20 year old.

Apparently the goal he scored today was a screamer. I think we would be mad to sell too soon and cheaply. Fletcher cost how many millions? Carroll? Connor Wickham?

At the end of the day they all want to play in the PL. If the club put a good contract on the table because they believe he has a future id be surprised if he didnt sign.

Just watched his goal on twitter for the lions yesterday. Check it out............what a snorter of a finish!
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Post by: rubyruby on November 27, 2012, 04:19:16 PM
Millwall for the scutters tonight.
Good Luck Chris Wood  :P

Still cant get over his goal at the weekend..............what a belter! Would love him to produce another one for the Dingles....... :P
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 27, 2012, 04:32:51 PM
Still cant get over his goal at the weekend..............what a belter! Would love him to produce another one for the Dingles....... :P

Kaboom! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-vfW4bMe4k
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Post by: WBASPE77 on November 27, 2012, 08:36:37 PM
A real belter, not as good as the one he scored against Doncaster.
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Post by: Londonbaggymike on November 27, 2012, 10:59:03 PM
Kaboom! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-vfW4bMe4k

Cheers for that. What a strike!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 28, 2012, 09:03:34 AM
Wood set up the winner for Keogh when Millwall played Wolves last night. :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 28, 2012, 09:08:37 AM
Wood set up the winner for Keogh when Millwall played Wolves last night. :)

That's even better an Albion Lonee and ex Wolves player who got loaned quite a bit scoring the winner.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hunsletbaggie on November 29, 2012, 12:21:25 PM
 Having lived in Leeds for 26 years I have a daughter who's a Leeds Utd fan and she's said Jerome Thomas has been head and shoulders above anything on the park in Leeds's last to games. I know he isn't match fit but I cant quite understand letting him go out on loan he's a much better option off the bench than the likes of Fortune. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on November 29, 2012, 12:27:12 PM
Having lived in Leeds for 26 years I have a daughter who's a Leeds Utd fan and she's said Jerome Thomas has been head and shoulders above anything on the park in Leeds's last to games. I know he isn't match fit but I cant quite understand letting him go out on loan he's a much better option off the bench than the likes of Fortune.

But Thomas isn't going to get match fit by playing 10 mins here and there. Hopefully we can get back a player on fire in January.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on December 06, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/saido-is-now-a-no-no-1-4562111

Injury has forced striker Saido Berahino to cut short his loan spell at Peterborough United.

The 19 year-old picked up a knee injury in the 1-1 draw at Ipswich on November 24 and returned to his parent club West Brom for treatement. A scan today (December 7) has found a chipped bone which will take eight weeks to mend.

Berahino made an impressive impact at Posh, scoring two goals, both in the 3-0 win over Derby in October. His departure leaves Posh with just one recognised striker, Dwight Gayle, at the club until the January transfer window opens.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 06, 2012, 06:13:51 PM
http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/saido-is-now-a-no-no-1-4562111

Injury has forced striker Saido Berahino to cut short his loan spell at Peterborough United.

The 19 year-old picked up a knee injury in the 1-1 draw at Ipswich on November 24 and returned to his parent club West Brom for treatement. A scan today (December 7) has found a chipped bone which will take eight weeks to mend.

Berahino made an impressive impact at Posh, scoring two goals, both in the 3-0 win over Derby in October. His departure leaves Posh with just one recognised striker, Dwight Gayle, at the club until the January transfer window opens.

Shame to hear that as he was doing well as Posh, hopefully this injury wont affect him too much.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on December 15, 2012, 03:22:53 PM
Just scored! Shame it's for dirty Leeds.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Political Cake on December 15, 2012, 03:23:15 PM
Jerome Thomas gets off the mark for leeds for our favourite manager. ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on December 15, 2012, 04:52:17 PM
Scored one and made one for Leeds , shame Warnock's in charge! :o
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on December 15, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
It's good news for us. He could be the answer to our winger problems once Odemwingie goes to the ACN.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on December 15, 2012, 07:21:58 PM
Clarke talking of possible loan recalls after 28 days of loan. It really makes sense to have a different option on the bench at least which means JT or El G.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 15, 2012, 07:56:59 PM
he has made a very good impact since he has been at Leeds pleased to see him score today.
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Post by: spencer Baggie on December 15, 2012, 08:22:06 PM
Important impact to make for us in the last 20 minutes of games IMO.

Especially when we're pushing for a win / chasing games. Especially in Jan/Feb with the ACN.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionLegend on December 18, 2012, 08:32:12 PM
Wood has scored for Milwall again.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on December 18, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
Wood has scored for Milwall again.

And again!! 2 for Woody.
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Post by: Baggie79 on December 18, 2012, 09:09:06 PM
A worldy by all accounts!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 18, 2012, 09:11:59 PM
He is into double figures for the season, Millwall have been on a great run of late.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on December 18, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
At this rate it would be madness to sell Wood for 1 or 2 million. We need to take a look at him at PL level before we let him go.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 18, 2012, 09:21:56 PM
Wood is a striker that could easily get past 2o goals this season. I would certainly say he is worth having a look at before we consider selling him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on December 18, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
Offer Wood a decent contract, with the express promise that if we're not going to use him, then he can move on for £3-4million and we won't play silly beggers.

Get him back in Jan for a month or so while Pete is away, he's different to our other lads, he's worth a shot.

This is a lad who's scored about 30 goals in 2012 at club and international level. He's only 20... since when did we become good enough to through that out of the window?!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 19, 2012, 08:09:59 PM
Jerome Thomas starting for Leeds tonight, not done a great deal so far though.
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Post by: wba1993dave on December 19, 2012, 08:13:23 PM
Thomas being wasteful so far, rather than taking the man on he turns and passes it backwards ::)
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Post by: OldburyWBA on December 19, 2012, 08:25:38 PM
And next break sets a goal up with an excellent ball across the area
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Post by: wba1993dave on December 19, 2012, 08:25:56 PM
Nice assist by Thomas :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 19, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
Great ball from JT, did well to stay onside too.
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Post by: wbarenno on December 19, 2012, 08:51:21 PM
Poor 1st half from Thomas but he has more then made up for it with that wicked ball in on the outside of his boot.
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Post by: Marcus on December 19, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
What's the earliest we can get him back?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 19, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
I maybe completely wrong (and correct if so) but his loan ends on the 3rd of Jan, and there is a recall clause of 28 days. I think that is the 1st of Jan. so there really is no point.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 19, 2012, 09:17:18 PM
I thought he was a lot better in the second half, didnt do a great deal in the first apart from the great assist for the goal.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on December 19, 2012, 09:24:18 PM
I maybe completely wrong (and correct if so) but his loan ends on the 3rd of Jan, and there is a recall clause of 28 days. I think that is the 1st of Jan. so there really is no point.

According to the official website we can recall Thomas and Thorne after Saturdays game if required.
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Post by: Londonbaggymike on December 21, 2012, 08:23:47 AM
Woody's goal has made goal of the week on SSN. What a belter!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 22, 2012, 04:12:25 PM
Thorne has scored for Posh today.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie Artist on December 22, 2012, 04:14:44 PM
That's encouraging for Thorne.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 22, 2012, 05:36:37 PM
Wood scored again today for Millwall.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on December 22, 2012, 05:59:55 PM
I maybe completely wrong (and correct if so) but his loan ends on the 3rd of Jan, and there is a recall clause of 28 days. I think that is the 1st of Jan. so there really is no point.

Other than we're playing Fulham at home on the 1st of Jan if we want to give him some time then.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on December 22, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
Wood's two goals for Millwall against Brighton, both very classy finishes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ0KPdR3FPE
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Post by: WBASPE77 on December 22, 2012, 06:42:04 PM
The second goal was a real cracker.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on December 23, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
George Thornes goal was very good yesterday, dribbling past 2 players and then a tight finish. Looking at hat the Peterborough fans were saying yesterday, they were very impressed stating he was the best player on the pitch and looks like "the next Michael Carrick" and an "England regular of the future".  Hopefully he can keep progressing and then maybe get a shot at a fist team place here next season.

Woods second goal was also great.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on December 24, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
Thorne's review from the Peterborough Evening Telegraph..
George Thorne: Classy, composed, clever and scored a quality goal   8
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on December 24, 2012, 05:09:50 PM
I know he scored yesterday but does anyone have any idea how Thorne has done in his loan spell overall? January could be a big chance for him if Clarke wishes to utilise him alongside Yacob
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on December 25, 2012, 12:34:45 AM
After a slow start Thorne is doing very well , Posh fans have taken to him and compare him to Carrick.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on December 25, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
If possible i'd bring Wood and Thorne home for Jan, play them both at least twice, just to show them that they are part of our plans, then send them back to the Championship for the rest of the season.

We need another central guy who can put in a tackle and make the simple pass. If it turns out to be Thorne i'll be delighted.

I'm on record here many times as being a fan of Woods, I just dont think we're at the level yet to sell off young talent like that for money we dont really need.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 26, 2012, 12:44:46 PM
Jerome Thomas has made one or two decent runs so far, he also put the cross in in the lead up to the Leeds goal.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on December 26, 2012, 08:53:35 PM
Appears Thorne had another stonker today against the Dingles. Peterborough fans desperate to keep him for the season, he has changed their season. For a 19 year old to be controlling a championship teams midfield is very promising. Lets hope he can keep it up.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on December 27, 2012, 04:28:35 PM
Latest from the Peterborough E.T after yesterday's win at Wolves..
GEORGE THORNE 8

Such a calming influence on the rest of the side. Never has to hurry.

I work with a load of Posh fans , i keep hearing them raving about young Thorne and also how gets" stuck in" which does suprise me a little.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on December 27, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
Appears Thorne had another stonker today against the Dingles. Peterborough fans desperate to keep him for the season, he has changed their season. For a 19 year old to be controlling a championship teams midfield is very promising. Lets hope he can keep it up.

Great to hear. When I've seen him for us he has always seemed to lack the confidence to stamp his authority on the game and take responsibility on the pitch, from the sound of his loan deal with Portsmouth and now Peterborough it appears he may be finally doing that.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on December 28, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
Thorne has been recalled and goes straight into the squad for Saturday.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 28, 2012, 11:36:53 AM
George Thorne- taken from the son to play against the father. You could write a novel on a premise like that!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on December 28, 2012, 12:06:55 PM
George Thorne- taken from the son to play against the father. You could write a novel on a premise like that!

Didn't realise fergie jr was still at the posh.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommi on December 28, 2012, 12:41:52 PM
Wood is off to Leicester, also been recalled.

Will go when the transfer window opens.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on December 28, 2012, 04:07:32 PM
George Thorne- taken from the son to play against the father. You could write a novel on a premise like that!

Oh if he scores the winner you're onto something there. If he scores on OG we could have a conspiracy theory on our hands!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba1993dave on December 28, 2012, 04:11:57 PM
 Peterborough fans quite sad to see him go, some have said he is the next Frank Lampard or a Michael Carrick :P  Lets hope so. Probaly be on the bench for the Man United game but am sure he will get a chance in the cup ( QPR.)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: kris_boing on December 28, 2012, 04:22:22 PM
Thorne has always reminded me of Carrick when I've seen him play. Granted its not been on too many occasions but there are similarities.


I think he's going to be a top player and it sounds like this loan has done him the world of good.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on December 28, 2012, 05:44:07 PM
Will be interesting to see if he plays any part tomorrow, up against Michael Carrick. People have been comparing him to Carrick for a few years now so tomorrow could allow us to see just how good he is.

I hope his time at Peterborough has developed his game as in the past I have felt he was a little lost in the centre.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on December 29, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
Sam Mantom scored today for Walsall.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on December 29, 2012, 08:43:41 PM
Cracking strike by Mantom from well outside the box.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionLegend on December 30, 2012, 01:55:52 PM
Any news on Scott Allen?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on December 31, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
With Demba Ba seeming likely to go to Chelsea to replace the departing Sturridge it now looks almost certain that Lukaku will remain with us until the end of the season. That's good news for us to start the New Year.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on December 31, 2012, 01:01:19 PM
And they are reportedly in for Falcao for £40m. I think Rom's staying.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on December 31, 2012, 02:40:23 PM
Hearing Donovan Daniels is impressing at Tranmere.  Bright prospect
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 08, 2013, 12:46:08 PM
Young defender to remain with League One table-toppers

DONERVORN Daniels’ youth loan at Tranmere has been extended until February 6.

The Baggies have the right to recall the 19-year-old centre-half at anytime.

Daniels has made three starts and one substitute appearance for the League One leaders.


http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/daniels-extends-tranmere-loan-585056.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on January 08, 2013, 03:01:42 PM
Kevin Keen made a comment that they could possibly look to promote 1 or 2 into the match squad to cover for injuries etc. It would be nice to see a more positive attitude towards blooding some players. Apart from Thorne who I hope gets a few more games in the 2nd half of the season, who is likely ?
I guess Berahino would be a candidate but is injured. Hurst ? D. Daniels ? Allen ? Mantom ? I know a couple are out on various loans but can presumably be recalled.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 08, 2013, 08:54:32 PM
Kevin Keen made a comment that they could possibly look to promote 1 or 2 into the match squad to cover for injuries etc. It would be nice to see a more positive attitude towards blooding some players. Apart from Thorne who I hope gets a few more games in the 2nd half of the season, who is likely ?
I guess Berahino would be a candidate but is injured. Hurst ? D. Daniels ? Allen ? Mantom ? I know a couple are out on various loans but can presumably be recalled.

Berahino is indeed injured. Scott Allan returned to the club after Portsmouth's defeat at Walsall.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 08, 2013, 09:32:28 PM
Allen seems too far down the pecking order to get a chance. He was a substitute in the pre season games with alternative squads.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on January 08, 2013, 09:38:31 PM
Allen seems too far down the pecking order to get a chance. He was a substitute in the pre season games with alternative squads.
Vague memory but im sure CL stated in one of his web chats that Allen hasn't worked out how the club would have liked , a bit like the El G issue i believe.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lordbaggie on January 09, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
From what I can gather, Allan impressed in his first loan spell at Pompey in the Champ when Appy was manager and George Thorne was there.

Second time around, despite being in a lower league, he's been less successful.

Maybe because of a different manager.

Maybe because if the tragic incident.

Who knows?

But I doubt he's ready to impact our Premiership season just now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 10, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
Jara joined Forest on loan until the end of the season

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/jara-reyes-makes-forest-move-589996.aspx

GONZALO Jara Reyes has today joined Nottingham Forest on loan until the end of the season.

The Baggies have no right of recall on the versatile Chile international.

Jara Reyes has made just two first-team appearances for Steve Clarke’s seventh-placed troops this term.

He started the 4-2 Capital One Cup second-round win at Yeovil in August and came on as a half-time substitute for Gabriel Tamas in the 3-2 Barclays Premier League victory over QPR in October.

Jara Reyes enjoyed two loan spells with Championship outfit Brighton last term - making 14 appearances.

He joins Forest in 11th position in the Championship, just three points off the play-off places after 26 games.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on January 10, 2013, 10:44:42 PM
Good luck to Jara, I think he will do a good job for Forest a very good Championship player.
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Post by: Wbahunty on January 11, 2013, 10:33:36 AM
From what I can gather, Allan impressed in his first loan spell at Pompey in the Champ when Appy was manager and George Thorne was there.

Second time around, despite being in a lower league, he's been less successful.

Maybe because of a different manager.

Maybe because if the tragic incident.

Who knows?

But I doubt he's ready to impact our Premiership season just now.

I went and watched the Walsall v Portsmouth game last Friday and he came on as sub and didnt get chance to do anything! He is in a poor team with Portsmouth they were very poor.

Walsall however had Sam Mantom and him and James Chambers ran the show, Mantom tryed alot to play some cross field balls and to be quite frank they were going out of play 8 out of 10 times! He did however play well when he recived the ball of chambers who was very much there Mulumbu. He got the ball forward very fast and provide assists for both goals i belive with some very clever ball lofted through the middle!

These players need to be given a chance in pre season next year!
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Post by: Floydy on January 11, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
I went and watched the Walsall v Portsmouth game last Friday and he came on as sub and didnt get chance to do anything! He is in a poor team with Portsmouth they were very poor.

Walsall however had Sam Mantom and him and James Chambers ran the show, Mantom tryed alot to play some cross field balls and to be quite frank they were going out of play 8 out of 10 times! He did however play well when he recived the ball of chambers who was very much there Mulumbu. He got the ball forward very fast and provide assists for both goals i belive with some very clever ball lofted through the middle!

These players need to be given a chance in pre season next year!

Mantom won't be.... Joining Walsall permanently on a free transfer
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Post by: Albion79 on January 11, 2013, 12:34:48 PM
I dont think Mantom ever was quite upto the standard we look for now (Ie - Thorne) what i can gather i think he was very popular and well liked but probably not quite good enough.

At least though, the likes of him and Chris Wood are going onto have careers in football, i remember going back a few years, our young players just drifted out the game!

I have my doubts if James Hurst or Scott Allan will make it, people always say Hurst is quality and i know Clarke spoke about him highly preseason but he has never been involved even in cup matches and  he is 21 this month and needs to be playing. I know he is injured but from being involved in the first team squad 2 years ago i am not sure he has kicked on, yet he seems to have all thats needed to be a good right back, which is sometimes seen as our problem position!

Allan i think will be one of those who doesnt quite make it with us, again i think we paid a small fee, similar to Dorrans, Dorrans came off, Allan hasnt. He is still young, but the fact he wasnt getting in a awful pompey team, i dont think he got in at MK Dons either doesnt bode well.
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Post by: Baggies on January 11, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
I think both Allan and Hurst will have professional careers but not here no. Allan will probably end up back in Scotland however Hurst has time on his side as defenders develop later. When I have seen him in the reserves he has been good and his attitude seems to have improved so I think he will do well in league 1. He has always got good reviews when out on loan there before.
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Post by: Albion79 on January 11, 2013, 06:42:29 PM
Sorry i meant make it with us! I think they will have careers but not sure they will make it with us. I would say Hurst has a better chances as Clarke spoke well of him preseason but Allan seems completely off the radar.
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Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 12:15:58 PM
Dawson on loan at Bolton:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/dawson-makes-bolton-switch-617219.aspx

CRAIG Dawson has today joined Championship outfit Bolton on an emergency loan.

The England Under-21 international is moving to the Reebok Stadium for a 93-day spell, although the Baggies will have the option of recalling him after 28 days.

Dawson is highly rated by Albion and has been allowed to link up with Wanderers to gain vital match experience.

“We firmly believe that Craig has a bright future and this loan spell will hopefully enable him to play some games and continue his footballing education,” said Albion’s Sporting & Technical Director (Designate) Richard Garlick.

“We’ve had an awful lot of interest in Craig but we’ve been reluctant to allow to him to go out on loan due to our injury situation.

“Now that we’re getting a few players back, we think this is a good time to let him go out, especially as we only play three games before we’re able to recall him, if we need to.”
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Post by: phbaggies on January 25, 2013, 01:44:31 PM
Good move all round, once his fitness is up I can see him getting a run of games ONCE we get to the 40 point mark. It seems to have worked well with Thorne and Thomas so hopefully it happens with CD too because I for one think Dawson has the makings of a top centreback.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on January 25, 2013, 04:10:05 PM
Hope he has a good loan spell and that he does well for Bolton.
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Post by: rubyruby on January 25, 2013, 11:45:55 PM
Good move all round, once his fitness is up I can see him getting a run of games ONCE we get to the 40 point mark. It seems to have worked well with Thorne and Thomas so hopefully it happens with CD too because I for one think Dawson has the makings of a top centreback.

Agree PH may well play for England in the future
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Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 10:32:01 AM
I imagine Dawson may play some part in the cup game with Everton today.
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Post by: NathWBA on January 26, 2013, 10:37:49 AM
I imagine Dawson may play some part in the cup game with Everton today.
he's cup tied I think
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Post by: KingKoren on January 26, 2013, 10:41:34 AM
he's cup tied I think

He is. Came on for a very unsuccessful couple of minutes against qpr.
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Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
I remember now, shame that would have been good for him to have played this weekend.
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Post by: ja26ckss on February 09, 2013, 10:14:22 PM
watched dawson for bolton today played a steady game could have scored 2 from 3 chances in the first halve, caused problems from set pieces all game given man of the match. 90 mins under his belt, good match time for wba next season
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Post by: WBASPE77 on February 10, 2013, 10:56:49 AM
He did have one or two good chanches for them Yesterday maybe should have scored.
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Post by: The Black Pearl on February 10, 2013, 12:02:50 PM
He was man of the match according to most sources, his first start and he looks like he has now grabbed the shirt, good for him, good for us! :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 10, 2013, 01:39:05 PM
He was man of the match according to most sources, his first start and he looks like he has now grabbed the shirt, good for him, good for us! :)

That is good to hear, this lad is depserate for some serious game time so its good to see him start well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 14, 2013, 05:00:54 PM
Bradley Garmston has joined Colchester United on 28 day youth loan

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/garmston-joins-us-on-loan-657263.aspx

BRADLEY Garmston is set for his first taste of Football League action after moving to Colchester United on a 28-day youth loan until March 13.

The Republic of Ireland Under-19s international full-back joins the League One U’s just two points above the relegation zone, with 15 games remaining.

Garmston’s spell at the Weston Homes Community Stadium includes matches against Sheffield United, Tranmere, Yeovil, Stevenage, Crewe and Coventry.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 14, 2013, 08:34:11 PM
Good luck to the lad hope he gets some good game time for Colchester.
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Post by: GrGr on February 14, 2013, 08:47:21 PM
Is Garmston the lad who is very fast? Interesting that he got a League One loan at 18.
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Post by: rubyruby on February 14, 2013, 11:00:11 PM
Good to see our youth system producing players of real quality but I was surprised that we "Offloaded" Wood. Obviously they didnt think he was of the required standard for our first team squad but over a million for an untried player at PL level is good money. Be interesting to see how he goes if the foxes get promoted.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on February 15, 2013, 09:46:42 AM
Saido Berahino might loan to Peterborough again,hope he plays well and gain a place in our team next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 15, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
Saido Berahino might loan to Peterborough again,hope he plays well and gain a place in our team next season.

I hope he gets loaned out again, did a decent job for Posh.
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Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on February 15, 2013, 09:49:19 PM
As mentioned over on the League One/Two thread, Cameron Gayle scored the second goal for Shrewsbury Town in a 2-0 win over Donervorn Daniels’ Tranmere Rovers.

Both looked very comfortable at League 1 level.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 15, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
As mentioned over on the League One/Two thread, Cameron Gayle scored the second goal for Shrewsbury Town in a 2-0 win over Donervorn Daniels’ Tranmere Rovers.

Both looked very comfortable at League 1 level.

I'm pleased that Gayle scored for Shrewsbury , both still young lads and early days for them but the early signs look good for them,hopefully in a couple of seasons time there will be playing in a higher division.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on February 18, 2013, 08:59:54 AM
Looks like Garmston has made a good xtart to his spell with Colchester.

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/colchester-united/west_brom_loanee_garmston_has_a_bright_future_1_1936837
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 18, 2013, 09:40:35 AM
Looks like Garmston has made a good xtart to his spell with Colchester.

http://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/colchester-united/west_brom_loanee_garmston_has_a_bright_future_1_1936837

Thansk for the link mate, pleased to see that he had a good debut.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: alfie07 on February 23, 2013, 05:20:38 PM
Dawson double as Bolton beat 3rd placed Hull 4-1
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on February 23, 2013, 06:25:25 PM
Dawson double as Bolton beat 3rd placed Hull 4-1

I think Dawson will be a first team regular by Christmas, if not before.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: ja26ckss on February 23, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
just seen both goals on sky sports 1st near post header 2nd back heel flick in off post from 6 yards thats all he wanted match time  next wba for the future
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 26, 2013, 08:08:51 PM
Another goal for Dawson tonight
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 26, 2013, 08:11:20 PM
That's his fourth since he has been there, hope Posh can get something from this game.
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Post by: reynirver on March 02, 2013, 05:14:54 PM
Dawson on the scoresheet again today, scored the winning goal against Barnsley.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 02, 2013, 05:19:47 PM
Dawson on the scoresheet again today, scored the winning goal against Barnsley.
How many is that now?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 02, 2013, 05:25:54 PM
How many is that now?

I think he has scored five goals now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 02, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
I think he has scored five goals now.
He's scored the same number of goals as Kevin Doyle then. (There's the interesting fact of the day)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on March 02, 2013, 05:36:42 PM
in what 4 weeks aswell??
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 02, 2013, 05:52:33 PM
in what 4 weeks aswell??
Since he has come into the side they have been on a really good run too.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on March 02, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
Since he has come into the side they have been on a really good run too.

This kid is awesome. Sure he's going to be a big player for us soon.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: ja26ckss on March 02, 2013, 07:08:21 PM
just seen his goal on sky could be a center forward in disguise a poachers goal. would we sell for big money now or later
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 02, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
just seen his goal on sky could be a center forward in disguise a poachers goal. would we sell for big money now or later

He is worth keeping, his defending will improve all the time as he is playing regularly now, and the fact that he is a goal scoring option is also why he is highly rated.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionLegend on March 28, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/hurst-rejoins-shrews-on-loan-737846.aspx

James Hurst has joined Shrewsbury Town on a youth loan until April 30th. Somehow I don't think he is in the clubs future plans.   
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 28, 2013, 05:59:08 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/sawyers-seals-saddlers-switch-739283.aspx

ROMAINE Sawyers has today joined League One Walsall on loan until April 27.   

The 21-year-old striker joins the 8th-placed Saddlers ahead of tomorrow’s trip to fellow playoff-contenders Yeovil.

And Sawyers, who experienced first-team football during loan spells at Port Vale and Shrewsbury Town, will be doing his upmost to help Dean Smith’s side secure a playoff place.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Jack Russell on March 28, 2013, 06:00:39 PM
Its time we started to see some of these kids given a chance with us.What an ideal opportunity given we are safe
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albion79 on March 28, 2013, 06:58:44 PM
I think this is probably the natural progression for that group of players, people such as Sawyers, Hurst, Kemar Roofe,  Kayleden Brown, possibly Scott Allan too, lads who have been around for a while, are early 20's now but never really troubled the first team, i think they will go on loan / get released in the summer, drop down a level or two and try and work there way up.

Not saying you are written off at 20 / 21, far from it but with the likes of Thorne, Donovon Daniels, Abil Nadi, Berainho, Izzy Brown, all a couple of years youngers or same age being  highly thought of and involved in first team squads the lads mentioned at the top probably need to go somewhere and play every week for a couple of years and go from there, it will do them good as short loan spells and reserve team football just isnt the same.

Hope it works out for all of them
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 29, 2013, 08:54:41 AM
Good luck to Sawyers he is joining a team very much on the up at the minute.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on July 19, 2013, 04:02:51 PM
Officially joined blues on loan:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/allan-joins-blues-on-loan-930978.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2013, 04:17:09 PM
I'm surprised its only on loan and we didn't look to sell him. He wasn't even getting in the match day squads last season when academy players were. Clearly not worked out as we'd hoped.

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Post by: Signor_Maresca on July 19, 2013, 04:22:41 PM
Isn't he out of contract next summer as well?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 19, 2013, 04:34:38 PM
I'm surprised its only on loan and we didn't look to sell him. He wasn't even getting in the match day squads last season when academy players were. Clearly not worked out as we'd hoped.
It's been mentioned his only issue is his effort off the ball, we didn't select Yassine for the same reason. the talent is evidently there though so I'd think this is a kind of last chance for him to bring his effort up, he'll have to work to be consistently good in the championship. If he does good and learns, we offer an extension. if he doesn't then he's released.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 19, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
Just goes to show how far they have fallen and how far we've come. Gets him off the wage bill. Fair enough
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: pattayabaggie on July 19, 2013, 05:34:46 PM
Looks like a perfect move for Allan, he dropped down to league one last season with mk dons and pompey and now gone to the blues for a year so its another progressive step in his career in England hopefully he can impress and fight for a first team spot next year, seems like a similar path to what George Thorne has been on
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Post by: tommcneill on July 22, 2013, 05:40:20 PM
Is Garmston the lad who is very fast? Interesting that he got a League One loan at 18.

Slightly off topic I know but this lad showed up on the squad list on Fifa13 and he has been a revelation for me ;D ;D ;D

Hoping for good things from this lad
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Post by: MarkW on July 25, 2013, 03:32:18 PM
Slightly off topic I know but this lad showed up on the squad list on Fifa13 and he has been a revelation for me ;D ;D ;D

Hoping for good things from this lad

He was 2nd in the 200m English Schools Championships in 2008. He's rapid. He also went to my school.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Jack Russell on July 25, 2013, 03:39:12 PM
They call him Willie willie faster than lightening
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 25, 2013, 03:52:22 PM
Garmston played well at Hereford last week. Looked decent, probably a bit better going forward as seems to be the norm.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 08, 2013, 12:23:17 AM
Two good goals for Allan last night. Hopefully the lad can push on from there.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 31, 2013, 11:43:45 AM
Lee Camp has joined Bournemouth on a months loan
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Post by: The Gaffer on October 31, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
Lee Camp has joined Bournemouth on a months loan


Another strange signing!  Why??
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on October 31, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
I assume he can be recalled at very short notice if needed but still a little strange to loan him out unless Foster is closer to returning than we thought.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 31, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
Don't understand the point in him signing if we're going to loan him out.

Shame really for Ryan Allsop - a product of our academy who has been featuring regularly down at Bournemouth.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on October 31, 2013, 12:05:37 PM
I assume he can be recalled at very short notice if needed but still a little strange to loan him out unless Foster is closer to returning than we thought.

There is an immediate recall in the agreement.

In answer to The Gaffer: We signed him as cover for Boaz and Daniels in case of injury when Foster got injured. Never likely to play but essential back up and still available while on loan at Bourmouth.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: The Gaffer on October 31, 2013, 12:30:14 PM
There is an immediate recall in the agreement.

In answer to The Gaffer: We signed him as cover for Boaz and Daniels in case of injury when Foster got injured. Never likely to play but essential back up and still available while on loan at Bourmouth.


Seems unnecessary to me. When was the last time any club had THREE keepers out of action? Last summer we did some very strange deals as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: Adder on October 31, 2013, 03:51:59 PM

Seems unnecessary to me. When was the last time any club had THREE keepers out of action? Last summer we did some very strange deals as far as I'm concerned.
You need one keeper on the pitch and one on the bench. If Myhill had got an injury before one of the games, Daniels would have played and we'd have had no cover on the bench - which teams just don't do now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Bob on November 02, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Myhill was injured at one stage earlier in the season so very sensible planning by the club and I doubt its cost us much
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on November 06, 2013, 06:33:22 PM
Anyone heard about a loan for george Thorne?

This was just on twitter:

@SBerahino: @GeorgeThorne15 good luck on loan my brother, do your ting??

Edit:
Just checked the OS and he's off to Watford until January. Best of luck George.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 25, 2013, 04:05:39 PM
Donervorn Daniels joined Gillingham on youth loan until January

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/daniels-joins-gills-on-loan-1196178.aspx

DONERVORN Daniels has today joined Gillingham on a youth loan until January 4.

The Baggies defender has figured prominently for Baggies Under-21s this term, including last Monday’s 2-1 extra-time Premier League Cup third-round win over Nottingham Forest.

He joins the Gills in 16th spot in League One and during his spell will face games against Stevenage twice, Rotherham, Notts County, Peterborough, Tranmere, Leyton Orient, Walsall and Wolves.


Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on November 25, 2013, 04:22:07 PM
A very good move for Donrrvorn - a player who could have a bright future with us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on November 25, 2013, 04:49:46 PM
Mate of mine is a Tranmere fan and wasnt too impressed. Reckoned he got worse not better the more he played!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on November 25, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
Mate of mine is a Tranmere fan and wasnt too impressed. Reckoned he got worse not better the more he played!
All depends what they expected really mate , i know several Peterborough fans who thought very little of Saido!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 25, 2013, 05:52:34 PM
All depends what they expected really mate , i know several Peterborough fans who thought very little of Saido!
Brentford fans too..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on November 26, 2013, 09:53:44 PM
Daniels scores for the Gills tonight.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 28, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
Kemar Roofe has joined Cheltenham Town

KEMAR Roofe has joined Cheltenham on a youth loan until January 4.

The 20-year-old winger has figured prominently for Baggies Under-21s this season and scored in Tuesday’s Birmingham Senior Cup 6-5 extra-time win at Rushall Olympic.

He enjoyed a month-long spell at Northampton last term, where he made four starts and two substitute appearances.

Roofe joins the League Two Robins in 16th place and his time at Whaddon Road includes games against Morecambe, Hartlepool, Fleetwood, Exeter, Mansfield, Bristol Rovers and Chesterfield.


Cameron Gayle has rejoined Shrewsbury Town

CAMERON Gayle has rejoined Shrewsbury on an emergency loan until January 4.

The Baggies have no right of recall on the defender, who turned 21 last week.

Gayle moves to Greenhous Meadow with the League One Shrews in 18th spot, three points above the drop zone after 18 games.

He enjoyed a successful five-month spell with Town last season, scoring once in 18 starts, to help them avoid relegation by seven points.

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/gayle-rejoins-shrews-on-loan-1201984.aspx#1eEHoqhdv9Zhoupp.99
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on November 28, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
Roofe has been consistent in the under 21's for a while now , will be interesting to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Londonbaggymike on November 29, 2013, 07:11:20 AM
Daniels scores for the Gills tonight.

What a cracker it was!

@WBAFCofficial: Check out Albion's on loan @TheGillsFC man @DonervonDaniels scoring a lovely volley on his debut http://t.co/QBtqENwiJU via @youtube #wba
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: saml30 on November 30, 2013, 12:15:59 AM
i notice the young left back Garmston hasn't gone out on loan, I wonder this is anything to do with Popov's performance?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 30, 2013, 12:42:14 AM
i notice the young left back Garmston hasn't gone out on loan, I wonder this is anything to do with Popov's performance?
he also wasn't in the team for the under 21's today against Southampton (looks to me Wes Atkinson moved there from CB). could be with the first team at some capacity tomorrow.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 15, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
Kemar Roofe scored 1st goal of his career for Cheltenham today
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on December 15, 2013, 01:13:15 AM
Kemar Roofe scored 1st goal of his career for Cheltenham today

2nd!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 15, 2013, 01:16:34 AM
2nd!

First according to Sky and the Cheltenham website.

He scored anyway  :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on December 15, 2013, 01:18:45 AM
First according to Sky and the Cheltenham website.

He scored anyway  :D

I'm pretty sure he got one earlier in the season and I think Jeff Stelling said his second but I've been wrong before!

Well at least he's scored that's the main thing!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 30, 2014, 01:19:00 PM
George Thorne on loan at Derby County
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 04, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
Kemar Roofe joined Colchester until December 1st

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/roofe-joins-colchester-on-loan-2061936.aspx

ALBION youngster Kemar Roofe has joined Colchester United on loan until December 1st.

The forward who is yet to make his senior debut for Albion, has been given permission by his parent club to play for the League One side in the FA Cup.

The 21-year-old has enjoyed previous loan spells at Northampton Town and Cheltenham Town, and is looking forward to gaining more experience at the Weston Homes Community stadium.

“I am really looking forward to playing for Colchester United,” said Roofe.

“The move is another chance for me to show the gaffer, the club and everyone else what I am about and also what I can offer.

“I’m looking forward to playing in front of a crowd and also trying to win football matches with Colchester.

“There is no better feeling in football than getting three points.

“I’ve already had good experiences out on loan at Northampton and Cheltenham, and on both occasions I have improved as a player and as a person.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on November 04, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
We seem to have a rapport with Colchester over loaning young players.

Best of luck to him I hope he does well
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Cameron on November 07, 2014, 05:39:39 PM
Jack Rose signed on loan for a month at Accrington Stanley. As a Stanley fan, I'll make sure to see how well he does.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on November 13, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Albion-midfielder-heading-Scunthorpe-loan/story-24527528-detail/story.html

West Bromwich Albion midfielder Liam O'Neil is set for a loan spell at Scunthorpe United, Sky Sports News is reporting.

The 21 year-old is highly-rated by Albion, and impressed during their Capital One Cup win over Hull City earlier this term.

He has made just two appearances this season - both in the League Cup - and could be sent on loan to allow him to gain first team experience.

He made three substitute appearances in the Premier League last season.

Scunthorpe are currently fourth from bottom of League One, having won just four league games so far this season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
We may as well let him go out. We're already out the league cup and I can't see him getting in the side, especially with Yacob and Baird both on the bench.

Also noticed that the mail ran an article about interest in Baird from Fulham but that has been rebuffed.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 09:50:38 AM
I'd also say for me it's not a great sign that he's going out to a league one side who are currently bottom. If we rate him and think he is around the fringes of the first team, surely we would look to the championship, as we have done with the likes of Daniels and Thorne previously.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on November 13, 2014, 10:09:57 AM
I think he's better than League 1. The snippets I've seen from him he should at least be at a Championship club.

If it was down to me I'd get rid of Baird and O'Neil would replace him. Thought this at the start of the season and still thinks it now. Disappointed with this loan move
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: kris_boing on November 13, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
What idiot makes these decisions?  This kid is knocking on the door to the first team and they send him on loan to the bottom of League 1.  ???
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on November 13, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
Would have made more sense to send him out on loan to a struggling championship side.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BB74 on November 13, 2014, 10:19:06 AM
Would have made more sense to send him out on loan to a struggling championship side.

Should have sent him to Blackpool along with Donovan Daniels.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albion79 on November 13, 2014, 10:22:02 AM
I can understand him going out on loan as now we arent in the cups he doesnt currently seem near the first team but with all due respect to Scunthorpe i would think he should be going to a championship club.

If he was 19 or so and not really a first team player i could maybe understand it but he is 21 now, been on the fringes of the first team and not sure how this move will help him, seems a backwards step.

I think with the amount of midfielders we currently have at the club his chances are limited and it wouldnt surprise me he ends up moving on at the end of the season, ie - Sam Mantom, well thought of, well liked but just didnt get the chance.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
With all due respect to Scunthorpe what's he going to gain ?

All that will happen is that he will become lost at the Albion, end up moaning on social media and end up at Derby with Thorne which is understandable given his progression. Daniels wasn't really around the sqaud and even he was sent to the championship
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: VVVAlbion on November 13, 2014, 10:40:01 AM
Its ok saying he should go to a Championship side, one of them has to request him!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 13, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
From what I've seen of him he's not going to be good enough.  He should be dominating games in league one. So the ball is now in his court.  As somebody pointed out you can only loan him to a Championship club if one wants him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 01:06:42 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/oneil-joins-scunthorpe-on-loan-2081693.aspx

Confirmed 28 day loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on November 13, 2014, 01:15:44 PM
Would you rather him knocking about with the under 21s or actually getting some first team football for a month?

Ridiculous attitudes, you can't just chuck him onto a Championship side, they actually have to want him first..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: kris_boing on November 13, 2014, 01:25:32 PM
He's been knocking around in our reserves until now without anyone feeling the need to send him out on loan previously.  A temporary move to League 1 should have been done years ago.  At 21 and on our bench should surely warrant playing for a Championship side.  League 1 will be no test for the kid.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 01:31:13 PM
Would you rather him knocking about with the under 21s or actually getting some first team football for a month?

Ridiculous attitudes, you can't just chuck him onto a Championship side, they actually have to want him first..

Why is it ridiculous? If I'm honest given that we often use senior players in the 21s I'd rather he stay.

Please explain how if you're on the fringe of the first team why going to a side bottom of league one is a good thing? Training with players who are scrapping for league one status as opposed to those training to play premier league football.

I appreciate there may be no interest from the Championsip, but surely if there was some in Daniels who has had no involvement then there must have been some in O'neil
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: RuncornBaggie on November 13, 2014, 01:31:42 PM
In the U21's he is head and shoulders above the others. 

This will give him valuable first team experience. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 01:42:48 PM
He's been knocking around in our reserves until now without anyone feeling the need to send him out on loan previously.  A temporary move to League 1 should have been done years ago.  At 21 and on our bench should surely warrant playing for a Championship side.  League 1 will be no test for the kid.

Exactly, what is he going to learn from them that he can't learn from international players?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on November 13, 2014, 01:48:56 PM
He's been knocking around in our reserves until now without anyone feeling the need to send him out on loan previously.  A temporary move to League 1 should have been done years ago.  At 21 and on our bench should surely warrant playing for a Championship side.  League 1 will be no test for the kid.

Maybe his ability does warrant a Championship side, but if there is no club at the level coming in for him what are you to do?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 02:02:12 PM
Maybe his ability does warrant a Championship side, but if there is no club at the level coming in for him what are you to do?

Fair point pal, completely agree. Strange one that nobody has come in for him though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on November 13, 2014, 02:03:25 PM
Why is it ridiculous? If I'm honest given that we often use senior players in the 21s I'd rather he stay.

Please explain how if you're on the fringe of the first team why going to a side bottom of league one is a good thing? Training with players who are scrapping for league one status as opposed to those training to play premier league football.

I appreciate there may be no interest from the Championsip, but surely if there was some in Daniels who has had no involvement then there must have been some in O'neil

Fringe of the first team..  Well he may train with the first team but he is nowhere near our first eleven, even with a couple of injuries.  Playing first team football will be far more advantageous than playing under 21 games; for a start there is more of them (games).   Secondly for someone who has viewed a fair share of under 21 games, League One will be far more competitive, he will have less time on the ball and the games will be played with far more intensity than an U21 game.  He will also be playing alongside and against men, seasoned experienced pro’s, again you’d think he will be able to gleam much from actual match scenarios rather than mock examples on the training field. 

Furthermore I’ll add that O’Neil has spent his entire career in the comfort and cotton wool wrapped bubble of the academy, the rough and tumble of a League One dog fight will do no harm to his game nor his character.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on November 13, 2014, 02:09:09 PM
Fringe of the first team..  Well he may train with the first team but he is nowhere near our first eleven, even with a couple of injuries.  Playing first team football will be far more advantageous than playing under 21 games; for a start there is more of them (games).   Secondly for someone who has viewed a fair share of under 21 games, League One will be far more competitive, he will have less time on the ball and the games will be played with far more intensity than an U21 game.  He will also be playing alongside and against men, seasoned experienced pro’s, again you’d think he will be able to gleam much from actual match scenarios rather than mock examples on the training field. 

Furthermore I’ll add that O’Neil has spent his entire career in the comfort and cotton wool wrapped bubble of the academy, the rough and tumble of a League One dog fight will do no harm to his game nor his character.

Good point. That I do see as a benefit of the loan itself. I was more talking about quality of football
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on November 13, 2014, 02:16:00 PM
To be fair although a couple of years younger Berahino was taken out of the Academy and placed in the lower divisions with both a struggling Northampton and Brentford , in one respect it really must open the players eyes a bit.
I'm sure if O'Neill is a hit (as i suspect) a loan to the Championship will be next.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on November 13, 2014, 02:35:30 PM
Spot on fella.

Good Luck to Liam, can only do him good playing games at league level.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on November 13, 2014, 02:57:39 PM
In an ideal world, he will go to Scunthorpe, play well, come back with a bit of experience then go out to the championship for a month or 3 to gain some more experience.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: VVVAlbion on November 13, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
It will not only give him regular football and experience it allows other sides to get a better look at him in a competitive environment.  A league 1 loan could turn into a Championship loan, and as pointed out, did Berahino no harm.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albion79 on November 13, 2014, 04:14:02 PM
I agree that the competitive games will do him good, and also he cant really go to a championship side if one didnt come in for him.

My concern is the standard, Berahino and Daniels hadnt been near the first team when they were loaned out, and i think both were 19 / 20 at that stage it would appear they were a way off being involved and Berahino's loan spells did him good, and Daniels seems to be getting on fine.

Liam O'Neill however has played for our first team, been involved in and around matchday squads, played premiership football (abeit only a little) and is 21, i just think that for him to get to the level he already has he obviously is of a certain standard and a loan to a club that only came up from league 2 last year and is struggling in league 1 just doesnt seem right, i hope i am proved wrong.

As i say nothing against Scunthorpe, if it was a Adil Nabi, Danny Barrow, players like that who arent close to the first team and as of yet havent been i would say its a great move but Liam O Neill start of the season appeared to be a genuine first team contender, that hasnt happened and a few months later he is going to play in league 1.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wardy65 on November 13, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
I don't have a problem with him going there. Yes, it's league 1, but there really isn't much difference between that level than the lower half of the Championship. Look how well Wolves are doing (last week excepted  :D) since they went up.
Obviously no Championship team came in for him otherwise he'd be there, but the lad needs competitive football & I think he'll get it there & do well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on November 13, 2014, 09:36:06 PM
I guess when we send someone on loan there are a few factors involved in where he goes.
As mentioned, it has to be a club that wants him,
It needs to be somewhere he plays and doesn't sit on the bench
I would hope that we'd only let a young midfielder go to a club that plays a bit of football and plays through the midfield a bit.

He can also come back for the busy pre and post Christmas period and the cup 3rd round. Sensible time for a 28 day loan ...we don't play for the first 10 days of it.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WSBaggie on November 14, 2014, 10:25:30 AM
There is no harm in O'Neill going out for a month and playing football in a different environment. It is certainly more useful than not making our bench for the next month.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on November 14, 2014, 10:33:03 AM
we all know how obsessed with match fitness AI is,
This loan may be a pre-cursor to a clear out in January, AI has seen the squad and will be making decisions upon the futures of personnel, maybe a match fit O'Neill is seen as an important squad member later in the season.

Thats my conspiracy theory laid bare.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 14, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
we all know how obsessed with match fitness AI is,
This loan may be a pre-cursor to a clear out in January, AI has seen the squad and will be making decisions upon the futures of personnel, maybe a match fit O'Neill is seen as an important squad member later in the season.

Thats my conspiracy theory laid bare.

Let's hope not. If he jettisoned Mulumbu or Yacob to play ONeill it would be a huge mistake.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on November 14, 2014, 10:54:08 AM
Let's hope not. If he jettisoned Mulumbu or Yacob to play ONeill it would be a huge mistake.

I was thinking more of jettisoning the midfield dynamo that is Chris Baird or the club captain !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 14, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
Makes no sense. Brunt is a left midfielder (our only one) while Baird is a utility man right back centre back defensive midfielder.  O'Neill is also a defensive midfielder just not a very good one and one with no experience.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Jeb-Dog on November 14, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
Right move.

O'Neill no where near our first team quality at the moment.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on November 14, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
There'll be no clear out in January as everyone is under contract. Obviously if offers came in for one or two then its up to the club to decide.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 17, 2014, 05:19:18 PM
Video of Jack Rose (GK) Playing for Accrington Stanley against Carlisle, Apparently he was their Man of the Match.
 
video taken from Carlisle's official Youtube page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veg7EFewB1Y
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 27, 2014, 05:49:36 PM
Wes Atkinson has joined Cambridge United on loan until January 3rd

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-west-brom-wba-wesley-atkinson-loan-2108960.aspx#i2bdFRlTB5hFtxRF.99

YOUNG defender Wesley Atkinson has joined Cambridge United on loan until January 3.

The 20-year-old, who travelled with Alan Irvine’s first-team squad to California in pre-season, can also play for The U’s in the FA Cup.

Atkinson has been a regular in James Shan’s Under-21 side so far this season, producing some impressive displays.

And the Academy graduate, who found out about the League Two side’s interest in him through Shan, is itching to get started at the Abbey Stadium.

“I am buzzing to go out on loan and join Cambridge United,” said Atkinson.

“Our Under-21 coach, James Shan, phoned me on Wednesday night and said that there was a chance for me to go to Cambridge on loan.

“I have wanted to go on loan and gain some first-team experience so the opportunity was a no brainer.

“As soon as I found out that Cambridge were interested in me I did some research to see what they are like, and they look like a good team.

“I struggled to sleep last night, I was excited and nervous thinking about what is to come.

“My main aim is to help Cambridge and play well for them, showing the fans what I can do.”

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WorcsWBA on December 03, 2014, 12:27:23 PM
I see Kemar Roofe hasn't had his 1 month loan extended by Colchester, after starting once for them and 2 sub appearances. If Colchester don't regard him as being good enough for them in League 1, it doesn't exactly bode well for him potentially being of Premier League quality.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on December 03, 2014, 03:15:13 PM
I see Kemar Roofe hasn't had his 1 month loan extended by Colchester, after starting once for them and 2 sub appearances. If Colchester don't regard him as being good enough for them in League 1, it doesn't exactly bode well for him potentially being of Premier League quality.
Maybe but could be that he just doesn't fit in with their style of play, though you'd think that would be considered up-front.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on December 04, 2014, 07:57:12 AM
I see Kemar Roofe hasn't had his 1 month loan extended by Colchester, after starting once for them and 2 sub appearances. If Colchester don't regard him as being good enough for them in League 1, it doesn't exactly bode well for him potentially being of Premier League quality.

I recall Berahino being sent back from one of his first loan spells.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 27, 2014, 03:51:14 PM
Liam O'Neill scored one and made another yesterday for Scunthorpe, here's his goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUWR8gxxubQ&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 12, 2015, 05:08:38 PM
Congrats to Liam O'Neil, whose month's loan at Scunthorpe has been extended to the end of the season.

Donervon Daniels is back with us now his loan at Blackpool is up.

I'm not sure about Jack Rose, he had his loan extended in December but has not played in any of the last 3 matches for Stanley.
Also unsure with Wes Atkinson at Cambridge, his loan ended on 3rd of Jan but cannot find any confirmation of return or extension.

defender Reiss Greenidge apparently in talks with another club on loan after his previous spell at Port Vale came to an end according to the Stoke Sentinal.

Think that is everyone so far, have I missed anyone out?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 12, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
Congrats to Liam O'Neil, whose month's loan at Scunthorpe has been extended to the end of the season.

Donervon Daniels is back with us now his loan at Blackpool is up.

I'm not sure about Jack Rose, he had his loan extended in December but has not played in any of the last 3 matches for Stanley.
Also unsure with Wes Atkinson at Cambridge, his loan ended on 3rd of Jan but cannot find any confirmation of return or extension.

defender Reiss Greenidge apparently in talks with another club on loan after his previous spell at Port Vale came to an end according to the Stoke Sentinal.

Think that is everyone so far, have I missed anyone out?

Scunthorpe have not lost a game since O'Neil's loan spell started, moved out of the relegation zone.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: cads_ap_albion on January 12, 2015, 07:30:35 PM
Would gave hoped o'neill played higher level on loan to be honest.bhe should be ripping up trees in the div 1.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on January 12, 2015, 07:40:24 PM
Would gave hoped o'neill played higher level on loan to be honest.bhe should be ripping up trees in the div 1.

I think the fact they are unbeaten since he joined and he's helped them out the bottom three shows he's making some impact there.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on January 13, 2015, 05:50:10 AM
O'Neil can be the 4th choice CB(assume Olsson will leave this summer) and cover for the holding midfielder in our team if he progress well in Scunthorpe.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: cads_ap_albion on January 13, 2015, 07:12:52 PM
O'Neil can be the 4th choice CB(assume Olsson will leave this summer) and cover for the holding midfielder in our team if he progress well in Scunthorpe.

Do you not think Jonas is a perfect pulis type player??
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 16, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Bradley Garmston has joined Gillingham on a one month emergency loan

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-west-brom-wba-bradley-garmston-joins-gillingham-2207794.aspx

BRADLEY Garmston has joined League One side Gillingham on a one-month emergency loan deal.

Albion are unable to recall the left-back anytime before Saturday, February 14.

The Republic of Ireland youth international was part of the first team squad that travelled to California during pre-season, and he was also on target in the 3-2 friendly defeat at Port Vale in early August.

The 20-year-old has previous experience of being out on loan, having appeared 13 times for Colchester United in 2013.

We wish Brad all the best during his time with the Gills.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2015, 03:20:09 PM
Bradley Garmston has joined Gillingham on a one month emergency loan

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-west-brom-wba-bradley-garmston-joins-gillingham-2207794.aspx

BRADLEY Garmston has joined League One side Gillingham on a one-month emergency loan deal.

Albion are unable to recall the left-back anytime before Saturday, February 14.

The Republic of Ireland youth international was part of the first team squad that travelled to California during pre-season, and he was also on target in the 3-2 friendly defeat at Port Vale in early August.

The 20-year-old has previous experience of being out on loan, having appeared 13 times for Colchester United in 2013.

We wish Brad all the best during his time with the Gills.


Good luck to the lad, hopefully he performs well and can stay there for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 16, 2015, 11:29:39 PM
Congrats to Liam O'Neil, whose month's loan at Scunthorpe has been extended to the end of the season.

Donervon Daniels is back with us now his loan at Blackpool is up.

I'm not sure about Jack Rose, he had his loan extended in December but has not played in any of the last 3 matches for Stanley.
Also unsure with Wes Atkinson at Cambridge, his loan ended on 3rd of Jan but cannot find any confirmation of return or extension.

defender Reiss Greenidge apparently in talks with another club on loan after his previous spell at Port Vale came to an end according to the Stoke Sentinal.

Think that is everyone so far, have I missed anyone out?

Jack Rose has returned , he played 8 games for Accrington before getting injured

http://accringtonstanley.co.uk/2015/01/rose-returns-west-brom/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies54 on January 16, 2015, 11:36:11 PM
Jack Rose has returned , he played 8 games for Accrington before getting injured

http://accringtonstanley.co.uk/2015/01/rose-returns-west-brom/

Thats what happened to Berahino when on loan to Peterborough, lets hope Jack Rose goes the same way... :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 17, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
Thats what happened to Berahino when on loan to Peterborough, lets hope Jack Rose goes the same way... :D
I think he's the 3rd 'keeper that Stanley have had injured this season... What on earth are they doing there?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Cameron on January 19, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
I think he's the 3rd 'keeper that Stanley have had injured this season... What on earth are they doing there?

I'm a Stanley fan, we've played 7 keepers in 21 games. Great stability at the back.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
Donervorn Daniels has joined Aberdeen until the end of the season

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/donervorn-daniels-west-bromwich-albion-aberdeen-2230161.aspx

DONERVORN Daniels has completed a loan move to Scottish Premiership title-chasers Aberdeen until the end of this season.

The 21-year-old centre-half, who spent the opening half of this season with Championship side Blackpool, is available for selection with immediate effect. There is no recall option.

Second-placed Aberdeen, who are three points behind current league leaders Celtic, take on Dundee United in this Saturday's Scottish League Cup semi-final at Hampden Park.

Richard Garlick, Director of Football Administration, said: "This is an exciting opportunity for Donervorn.

"He has the opportunity to continue his development in the teeth of a very exciting League and cup challenge. We wish him all the best."
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on January 27, 2015, 08:04:27 PM
He should get some interesting experience in games that matter...assuming he gets the game time.

With Wigan offloading a couple and in desperate need of points, I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two disappear there on loan assuming we seal the McManaman deal.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Astle1968 on January 31, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
Daniels just scored in the cup semi for Aberdeen
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on January 31, 2015, 05:06:24 PM
Liam O'Neil scores for Scunthorpe United today,a stunning goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr00dFQdqr4&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr00dFQdqr4&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba606 on January 31, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
cant believe o neil was sent on loan could easily start at rb or on the bench
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 13, 2015, 12:14:44 PM
Kemar Roofe has joined Oxford United on a months loan

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-west-brom-under-21-winger-kemar-roofe-oxford-month-loan-2267834.aspx#QilDsl8hQLMXgOlq.99

ALBION have agreed a loan deal for another of their Under-21 group to gain first-team experience in the Football League’s proving grounds.

Winger Kemar Roofe has joined Oxford on a month-long loan deal and is in line for a debut at Burton this weekend.

The 22-year-old wide man follows the trail established by Liam O’Neil (Scunthorpe), Donervorn Daniels (Blackpool and now Aberdeen), Jack Rose (Accrington), Bradley Garmston (Gillingham) and Wes Atkinson (Cambridge).

Walsall-born Roofe has already been to Colchester on a similar loan earlier in the season and will now be pitched into Oxford’s battle to stay clear of the League Two trouble zone.

He will be under the charge of former Albion player, coach and assistant head coach Michael Appleton.

Despite this thinning of the numbers for Jimmy Shan’s squad, Albion's Under-21s have still established a formidable record which sees them defending an eight-game unbeaten run at Hednesford on Tuesday night in a Birmingham Senior Cup quarter-final.


Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: FallOutBoy on February 13, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
I liked the look of Roofe a couple of years ago, but the fact he keeps going to leagues 1 / 2, rather than the Championship, and he's now 22, speaks volumes.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 13, 2015, 01:00:57 PM
I liked the look of Roofe a couple of years ago, but the fact he keeps going to leagues 1 / 2, rather than the Championship, and he's now 22, speaks volumes.
Indeed it does. If he's supposed to be good enough for the Premier League, then Championship clubs should be wanting him on loan. As he's 22, and not 18 or 19, the club should really be making decisions about him now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 14, 2015, 04:38:30 PM
Bradley Garmston has just scored for Gillingham against MK Dons
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on February 14, 2015, 05:15:19 PM
Indeed it does. If he's supposed to be good enough for the Premier League, then Championship clubs should be wanting him on loan. As he's 22, and not 18 or 19, the club should really be making decisions about him now.
I guess he still qualified as under 21 for this season as far as that league goes. Like you say it's decision time at the end of this season I'd have thought, as he'll either be deemed good enough for a place in the full squad of 25 or whatever - or he'll be let go.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 03, 2015, 04:23:49 PM
Kemar Roofe hit two for Oxford at Wycombe today
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on April 06, 2015, 11:29:01 AM
Liam O'Neil reported to have injured his ankle ligaments while on loan to Scunthorpe Utd.

http://tinyurl.com/o35gamu (http://tinyurl.com/o35gamu)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Black Country Pride on April 06, 2015, 06:20:00 PM
Liam O'Neil reported to have injured his ankle ligaments while on loan to Scunthorpe Utd.

http://tinyurl.com/o35gamu (http://tinyurl.com/o35gamu)

FFS! Wish we'd kept the lad at the Hawthorns. Remember watching him against Hull in the cup and he looked very useful. Hope he gets a run in the first team next season. Get better soon Liam!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on April 07, 2015, 03:46:56 PM
Blanco has racked up 8 appearances thus for for San Lorenzo, scoring 1 and assisting 1.

Samaras has got 1 assist in 3 appearances for Al-Hilal
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on June 24, 2015, 03:10:34 PM
Alex Palmer has joined Kidderminster on a Youth Loan until January

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-goalkeeper-alex-palmer-kidderminster-harriers-2505500.aspx

YOUNG Albion goalkeeper Alex Palmer has signed a youth loan deal with Vanarama National League club Kidderminster Harriers.

The 18-year-old - who is from Kidderminster - will remain at Aggborough until January 2, 2016.

Palmer has made impressive progress during recent months and was rewarded with a place on the bench in Albion's final Barclays Premier League fixture of 2014/15, against Arsenal.

Everyone at West Bromwich Albion would like to wish Alex all the best during his time at Harriers.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on June 24, 2015, 04:02:53 PM
I was sort of hoping he would go to a League club - maybe Walsall or Shrewsbury Town. Good that he's going to get first team experience though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on June 24, 2015, 07:22:25 PM
Brilliant move by the club, they rate him very highly and at his age the perfect move. If he went to a league club and shipped a load it might break him, great level and club for him to continue his development with competitive matches. Good luck Alex!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: The Black Pearl on June 24, 2015, 08:08:11 PM
Brilliant move by the club, they rate him very highly and at his age the perfect move. If he went to a league club and shipped a load it might break him, great level and club for him to continue his development with competitive matches. Good luck Alex!

Local club to him as well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 05, 2015, 02:16:42 PM
Andre Wright has joined Kidderminster on a youth loan until January

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/andre-wright-joins-kidderminster-on-youth-loan-2595047.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 07, 2015, 05:14:18 PM
Tahvon Campbell has joined Kidderminster Harriers on loan until January
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/tahvon-campbell-joins-kidderminster-on-youth-loan-2601515.aspx?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 08, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
Kidderminster will be worth watching for the first few moths of the season. A chance to se our youngsters getting first team games.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on August 18, 2015, 09:34:43 PM
Andre Wright scores for Kidderminster Harriers
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 28, 2015, 03:45:16 PM
Adil Nabi has joined Delhi Dynamoes on a 3 month loan.

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-albion-adil-nabi-2653820.aspx

ADIL Nabi is off for the adventure – and opportunity - of a lifetime after agreeing to join Delhi Dynamos for the looming Indian Super League season.

The 21-year-old Albion striker has signed a three-month loan to take part in the second season of ISL action which will see Nabi playing against some of football’s biggest names in front of huge crowds.

The Dynamos will be coached this year by the Brazilian legend Roberto Carlos and have also recruited former internationals and Premier League stars John Arne Riise and Florent Malouda.

It adds another “first” to Albion’s long history of cultural breakthroughs as Nabi will become the first footballer contracted to a Premier League club to take up a loan to the ISL.

And it all added up to an opportunity too good to miss for Nabi - who joined the Baggies as an eight-year-old  - as he explained before joining Delhi’s pre-season tour of Sweden next week.

“I didn’t really have to think about it for too long,” he says. “The idea appealed to me the moment it was proposed. I spoke to my parents and to people at the club and everyone thought it was an exciting idea.

“I can’t wait. It is going to be an amazing experience. Some of the players who are now going to India are the biggest names in world football and working under a legend like Roberto Carlos is a chance not to be missed.

“I have spoken to the gaffer (Tony Pulis) and he agrees that it can be a great development opportunity for me. To go out, away from all my home comforts, and experience life and different football.

“I will be back at the end of the year when I hope I will have learned as a person and a footballer. My ambition is to still break into the Albion first team and this experience can help me do that.”

Head Coach Tony Pulis said: “It’s a great opportunity for Adil and we will follow his progress closely.

“I’m a big supporter of a young man stepping out of his comfort zone and experiencing another part of the world.

“I think he will come out of it a better, more mature person and as a result a better footballer.”

The ISL has established itself as one of the emerging “boom” leagues of world football and Nabi can expect to ply his trade in some huge stadia watched by attendances in excess of 60,000 at times.

In its debut season, the ISL drew an average of 26,505 attendances – a figure topped only by Germany’s Bundesliga, Spain’s La Liga and the Premier League.

The move strengthens Albion’s growing ties with Indian football which began with a series of grassroots initiatives two years ago and most recently saw the Club host an acclaimed reception on behalf of the Premier League for India’s top ISL top executives.

Adil will make his ISL debut on October 4 when Delhi open their campaign in Goa. The season runs until December 20.



Can't help but feel a bit cynical here that he will be used as a pawn in the clubs attempts to get more interest over there and he woudl be off going to a club here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on August 28, 2015, 03:55:08 PM
Adil Nabi has joined Delhi Dynamoes on a 3 month loan.

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-albion-adil-nabi-2653820.aspx

ADIL Nabi is off for the adventure – and opportunity - of a lifetime after agreeing to join Delhi Dynamos for the looming Indian Super League season.

The 21-year-old Albion striker has signed a three-month loan to take part in the second season of ISL action which will see Nabi playing against some of football’s biggest names in front of huge crowds.

The Dynamos will be coached this year by the Brazilian legend Roberto Carlos and have also recruited former internationals and Premier League stars John Arne Riise and Florent Malouda.

It adds another “first” to Albion’s long history of cultural breakthroughs as Nabi will become the first footballer contracted to a Premier League club to take up a loan to the ISL.

And it all added up to an opportunity too good to miss for Nabi - who joined the Baggies as an eight-year-old  - as he explained before joining Delhi’s pre-season tour of Sweden next week.

“I didn’t really have to think about it for too long,” he says. “The idea appealed to me the moment it was proposed. I spoke to my parents and to people at the club and everyone thought it was an exciting idea.

“I can’t wait. It is going to be an amazing experience. Some of the players who are now going to India are the biggest names in world football and working under a legend like Roberto Carlos is a chance not to be missed.

“I have spoken to the gaffer (Tony Pulis) and he agrees that it can be a great development opportunity for me. To go out, away from all my home comforts, and experience life and different football.

“I will be back at the end of the year when I hope I will have learned as a person and a footballer. My ambition is to still break into the Albion first team and this experience can help me do that.”

Head Coach Tony Pulis said: “It’s a great opportunity for Adil and we will follow his progress closely.

“I’m a big supporter of a young man stepping out of his comfort zone and experiencing another part of the world.

“I think he will come out of it a better, more mature person and as a result a better footballer.”

The ISL has established itself as one of the emerging “boom” leagues of world football and Nabi can expect to ply his trade in some huge stadia watched by attendances in excess of 60,000 at times.

In its debut season, the ISL drew an average of 26,505 attendances – a figure topped only by Germany’s Bundesliga, Spain’s La Liga and the Premier League.

The move strengthens Albion’s growing ties with Indian football which began with a series of grassroots initiatives two years ago and most recently saw the Club host an acclaimed reception on behalf of the Premier League for India’s top ISL top executives.

Adil will make his ISL debut on October 4 when Delhi open their campaign in Goa. The season runs until December 20.



Can't help but feel a bit cynical here that he will be used as a pawn in the clubs attempts to get more interest over there and he woudl be off going to a club here.

Very strange move this is, like you say, seems like relationship building. I'm sure clubs here would have taken him
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gerry m on August 28, 2015, 04:01:22 PM
Good luck to Adil! shame he didnt get a chance to show what he is capable of.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: smethwickw on August 28, 2015, 04:14:45 PM
To think people still give Izzy Brown stick for leaving us. Our kids are given very little opportunity here. Berahino was very very lucky in that we had a shocker transfer wise that summer which meant he was given his chance. Fortunately he took it.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan on August 28, 2015, 04:28:22 PM
To think people still give Izzy Brown stick for leaving us. Our kids are given very little opportunity here. Berahino was very very lucky in that we had a shocker transfer wise that summer which meant he was given his chance. Fortunately he took it.

We're one of the worst clubs in the league for youth players. At least teams like Chelsea and Man City have the excuse of actually having talented players. Berahino only broke through because how monumentally useless the strikers we had at that time were, even bench opportunities are few and far between.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on August 28, 2015, 04:33:22 PM
But Tony has a great record of developing and bringing through youngsters...
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on August 28, 2015, 04:53:13 PM
All the best Adil.
Hope you enjoy the experience in India.

Should be interesting to see how their supporters respond to a young British Muslim of Pakistani parentage rocking up on their door step.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on August 28, 2015, 05:10:00 PM
Our academy is supposed to be the envy of the Premiership. ..yes for producing players for other teams....watched him play in loads of games...ideye and Anichebe are better than him ...yes right...
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: howard62baby on August 28, 2015, 05:25:56 PM
Supposed to be knocking on the first team door( literally speaking ) now going to be half a world away , find this a bit bizarre ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Oldbaggie on August 28, 2015, 08:40:53 PM
Can't understand why some are doubting this move as I am sure it will benefit him. Adil himself says it will take him out of his home comfort zone and that he will have to learn to cope without family around. Coupled with different coaching and playing before full houses I am sure he will mature both as a person and a footballer.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: albionden on August 28, 2015, 10:38:55 PM
Hope he does well and gets game time ,  I thought he came across really well in his interview. I suggested to a Walsall fan mate on Wednesday, after he didn't get on the bench for the League Cup match , that he would be the next ex Albion player to end up at the Banks's
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrGr on August 28, 2015, 11:11:53 PM
Can't understand why some are doubting this move as I am sure it will benefit him. Adil himself says it will take him out of his home comfort zone and that he will have to learn to cope without family around. Coupled with different coaching and playing before full houses I am sure he will mature both as a person and a footballer.

But... the level of football. There is something bizarre about this move, it feels like a detour rather than something I would expect an up and coming player to embrace. Anyway I wish Adil the best of luck in India and with his career. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on September 06, 2015, 03:04:54 PM
How has Adil Nabi been getting on so far ?

The 3 lads in Alex Palmer, Tahvon Campbell, Andre Wright at Kiddy haven't impressed at all yet. Campbell & Wright don't get played, they're stuck on the bench. Wright has a goal to his name though, in a 3-1 home defeat to Wrexham. Palmer was back up at the start of the season but has started the last few games which have been defeats.

They're 8 games in and are bottom of the Vanarama National League(conference), haven't won a game yet.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on September 06, 2015, 03:14:04 PM
How has Adil Nabi been getting on so far ?

The 3 lads in Alex Palmer, Tahvon Campbell, Andre Wright at Kiddy haven't impressed at all yet. Campbell & Wright don't get played, they're stuck on the bench. Wright has a goal to his name though, in a 3-1 home defeat to Wrexham. Palmer was back up at the start of the season but has started the last few games which have been defeats.

They're 8 games in and are bottom of the Vanarama National League(conference), haven't won a game yet.

The league doesn't start until October, so Nabi will be doing pre-season for a month. No idea how he's got in in the 7 days he's been at the club, however.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Signor_Maresca on September 06, 2015, 04:23:37 PM
Supposed to be knocking on the first team door( literally speaking ) now going to be half a world away , find this a bit bizarre ?

Do you? With Pulis as our manager, the lad will never get a look in.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on September 06, 2015, 06:16:02 PM
To think people still give Izzy Brown stick for leaving us. Ourkids are given very little opportunity here. Berahino was very very lucky in that we had a shocker transfer wise that summer which meant he was given his chance. Fortunately he took it.
Just not true , Berahino at that point was a Clarke project who sent him to Peterborough.
Clarke was a regular at London Road watching him during that spell , pretty clear he had every intention of involving him the first team and indeed refused Peterborough's attempt to take him on loan again at the start of the season.
The luck he got was Sinclair going off at Old Trafford , the rest is history.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on September 11, 2015, 11:37:14 PM
Jack Fitzwarter to Chesterfield on an initial month loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 12, 2015, 10:54:23 AM
Jack Fitzwater to Chesterfield on an initial month loan.

Confirmed by Chesterfield now, I know he'd been down there training this week

http://www.chesterfield-fc.co.uk/news/article/spireites-sign-west-brom-teenager-on-loan-2682220.aspx

Fitzwater - who has been training with the Chesterfield squad this week - signs on a 28-day loan deal which will see him remain at the club until October 8.

Subject to clearance from the Football League, Fitzwater will be available for tomorrow's match with Colchester United.

Manager Dean Saunders gave further details on his latest addition: "He's played for the West Brom first team and he comes recommended to me by Tony Pulis.

"We are a bit short of defenders at the minute and he's a young player who might be able to come in and help us. he hasn't looked out of his depth in training so we'll make sure he's ready to play in League One."


Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on September 12, 2015, 11:17:58 AM
Decent move for a 17 year old, getting a move to one of the better League 1 sides.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on September 12, 2015, 05:12:22 PM
Jack Fitzwarter to Chesterfield on an initial month loan.

Debut after 19mins after their defender got sent off.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 14, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
highlights here, arguably Fitzwater (No.23)could've done more at all three conceded goals, but its all experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_T9-V-1ULs
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on November 05, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Andre Wright begins a 28-day youth loan at Torquay United.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: zac on November 19, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
Adil Nabi has just scored his first goal for Delhi.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on November 19, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
Adil Nabi has just scored his first goal for Delhi.

They've won 3-1, other goal scorers Inc Jon Arne Riise and Adrian Mutu (so that's where he is!)

At least he now has 1 pro goal to his name, no matter what happens. Happy for the lad!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 19, 2015, 11:58:27 PM
Nabi's goal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L74rfGTHeWk
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: fpvmtimbdbo on November 20, 2015, 07:46:07 AM
The ISL isn't really a professional league. It's a 2 month glorified kickabout where past-it 40 year olds are coming out of retirement for some money and relevance.

India's official domestic league is the I-League. That's where genuine professional football is played.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on December 06, 2015, 02:56:32 PM
Adil has his 3rd goal for Delhi Dynamos.

He's back for January, I hope he gets a couple of sub appearances once he's back. He can replace Vic.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tylerm on December 06, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Adil has his 3rd goal for Delhi Dynamos.

He's back for January, I hope he gets a couple of sub appearances once he's back. He can replace Vic.

I agree but I could replace Vic
However how are we going to offload him?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on December 06, 2015, 03:27:31 PM
I agree but I could replace Vic. However how are we going to offload him?

I'd pay him off to be honest, can't be good for the team having him lumber around without a chance or clue.

Best realistic option, out on a free and even out his wages for the rest of the season. A championship club could be willing to make a mistake with him?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 06, 2015, 05:48:16 PM
Adil has his 3rd goal for Delhi Dynamos.

He's back for January, I hope he gets a couple of sub appearances once he's back. He can replace Vic.
typical goal for Nabi, sneaks behind the defense and finishes well, good goal

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CVjMa6_UAAEgqfC.mp4

as it hasn't been put up, His 2nd goal last week against Kerala was a simple unmarked header from a deep left field cross/lob, well taken and got good power in and well run to not be tracked. sorry, don't know how to just get the video so you get the person's twitter page.
 https://twitter.com/Pranaykapuria/status/672424016993480704

Oh, and he's bald now!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: FallOutBoy on December 07, 2015, 12:50:20 PM
He won't get a chance with us. Pulis doesn't use youth players, and Nabi hardly fits into the way he wants us to play.

I think the lad will move on and have a decent career somewhere else, but it won't be here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 07, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
He won't get a chance with us. Pulis doesn't use youth players, and Nabi hardly fits into the way he wants us to play.

I think the lad will move on and have a decent career somewhere else, but it won't be here.
Weird, Pulis has tried a few times to make a 4-4-2 work, and with how deep Nabi naturally plays he'd be perfect for linking midfield and strikers in a 4-5-1 defensive then 4-4-2 offensive tactic. He also semi decent in the air for a shortish player. I'd think Pulis would love him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: FallOutBoy on December 07, 2015, 09:16:49 PM
Weird, Pulis has tried a few times to make a 4-4-2 work, and with how deep Nabi naturally plays he'd be perfect for linking midfield and strikers in a 4-5-1 defensive then 4-4-2 offensive tactic. He also semi decent in the air for a shortish player. I'd think Pulis would love him.

Pulis doesn't like to link midfield and attack, he likes about 15-20 yards of separation at all times  :P

Seriously though, I think Pulis will judge a book by its cover with Adil Nabi, and possibly with his brother. Because he isn't the stereotypical 'big strong lad', and probably can't defend well enough to play midfield (see: Saido, McManaman), I doubt he'll get the chance.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on December 07, 2015, 09:25:30 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11996/10091923/john-arne-riise-hails-talented-west-brom-starlet-adil-nabi

West Brom youngster Adil Nabi can return from his loan spell in India and enjoy a successful career in England, according to Delhi Dynamos team-mate John Arne Riise.

Nabi became the first Premier League player to join an Indian Super League club on loan, when he moved to Delhi to ply his trade in the Indian capital under World Cup winner Roberto Carlos.

The 21-year-old's arrival in India was delayed due to visa issues, but Nabi has hit a purple patch at just the right time, scoring three times in his last four starts, helping Delhi seal a semi-final place.

"He's a great finisher and as his confidence and fitness builds he'll go on to be very good. He's very young but he was voted West Brom's best young player last year.

"He's got some amazing skills and he's going to be a top, top player."

Nabi also shares a dressing room with ex-Chelsea and Lyon winger Florent Malouda and the former France international thinks the youngster's move to Delhi could be the catalyst for more Premier League players to move to India.

"I think Nabi has a bright future in the game in England," Malouda said. "He's a good young player with a lot of skill. He has quick feet and is very good in front of goal.

"When I was at Chelsea I saw many young players going on short-term loans to develop as footballers because they don't have opportunities to play first-team football at their club.

"You have to be patient and keep working hard. This is a different kind of opportunity for him. It's something new because I have never seen a player go on loan to India but if he is successful with Delhi maybe it will open a pathway for new players and convince other young footballers to come here."


Nice bit of coverage here about Nabi. I don't think he's got a future here under Pulis but hopefully he has a good career, he certainly has the talent.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on December 08, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Nabi has needed a loan move for a couple of years now and its a shame we haven't been able to find him somewhere over here instead of India although it was a unique opportunity for him over there that he will learn a great deal from. Its nice to see the comments from Riise and Malouda, some questioned why he wasn't getting in the side over there when he first joined but they had restrictions on overseas players so he missed out initially.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 15, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
Nabi got sent off in the last game against FC Goa whist on the bench (subbed after an hour or so). apparently for having a heated argument with the referee, haven't seen it but sound like he lost his rag at something in a big way, will try to find a video or something.

Delhi Dynamos are out of the ISL so Nabi will be returning home soon.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Jimmy on December 15, 2015, 09:16:34 PM
Need him in the fold and playing for the Albion. He genuinely wants to play for the baggies.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on December 16, 2015, 11:32:48 AM
Need him in the fold and playing for the Albion. He genuinely wants to play for the baggies.

I would like nothing more than for a youth prospect to break through but is he really good enough? I admit I've not seen much of him but the few games I have seen him in he looks a good finisher but needs to really improve his overall game before being ready to play in the Premier League.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on January 06, 2016, 06:19:59 PM
Tahvon Campbell at Yeovil for a month
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: cads_ap_albion on January 07, 2016, 09:45:20 PM
Presume nabi was banned vs Newcastle as he was not on the bench, given how poor the bench was?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 07, 2016, 11:59:33 PM
Presume nabi was banned vs Newcastle as he was not on the bench, given how poor the bench was?

No.
He was ineligible to play due to technicalities surrounding the end of his loan deal.
Nabi tweeted this at the time of the game and it has been mentioned/covered several times by other posters.
Do not have the link to hand though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 23, 2016, 06:58:14 PM
Goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard has joined Preston North End on loan until the end of this season
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 23, 2016, 07:13:21 PM
Tahvon Campbell scored his first goal (i think) in the Football League for Yeovil today against Crawley Town in a 2-1 win.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on January 23, 2016, 08:24:06 PM
West Brom goalkeeper Anders Lindegaard has joined Sky Bet Championship club Preston on loan for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Xpresso on January 23, 2016, 10:02:01 PM
Quote
Tahvon Campbell scored his first goal (i think) in the Football League for Yeovil today against Crawley Town in a 2-1 win.

And an excellent goal it was, too, by all accounts. His partner up front described it as a 'perfect strike'.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on January 24, 2016, 12:15:04 AM
Another great addition to the squad by Mr delusional

came in simply to be cover to Myhill when Foster was out ?

Did the job
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: paulosull on January 24, 2016, 01:00:59 AM
came in simply to be cover to Myhill when Foster was out ?

Did the job
will we ever give the youngsters a chance under this clown
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 25, 2016, 12:23:13 PM
Tahvon Campbell scored his first goal (i think) in the Football League for Yeovil today against Crawley Town in a 2-1 win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKC2cWT0C8Q

Only just seen it, l think its him that hit the bar from a header prior to him scoring with a very Berahino like finish. Fingers crossed he can kick on.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on January 25, 2016, 12:26:39 PM
great finish that is :o
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on January 25, 2016, 06:25:16 PM
Where's the defence for his goal? No-one getting close to him!

Quality finish though, not to take anything away from him. Hope he kicks on and gets a few more.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 28, 2016, 05:31:40 PM
Yeovil Town have confirmed they have extended Tahvon Campbell's loan deal from West Brom until March 3.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on January 28, 2016, 05:43:28 PM
Tahvon Campbell had his loan extended at Yeovil today

He's 19..another one who's not good enough
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elkiellis on January 28, 2016, 09:56:33 PM
its really bad that we are loaning out and selling our kids without giving them a chance,and against posh in the cup we will have lambert walking around the pitch on a 40k a week
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on January 28, 2016, 10:12:05 PM
I think at 19 it is perfectly ok for Campbell to be in a lower league. Better he gets competitive game time in the football league than only playing in the U21s.

Hopefully he will learn from that and then we can reassess his status once he comes back.

In reality, if one of the current crop coming through ends up in the first team, then that's a massive success. If they all end up playing for other teams throughout the Football League then so be it.

I'm always a fan of bringing youth into the team, but loans form a vital part of any young player's development. You don't want to be bringing players into the first team when they have never had a taste of competitive action.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: overseas baggie on January 29, 2016, 02:06:56 AM
I think at 19 it is perfectly ok for Campbell to be in a lower league. Better he gets competitive game time in the football league than only playing in the U21s.

Hopefully he will learn from that and then we can reassess his status once he comes back.

In reality, if one of the current crop coming through ends up in the first team, then that's a massive success. If they all end up playing for other teams throughout the Football League then so be it.

I'm always a fan of bringing youth into the team, but loans form a vital part of any young player's development. You don't want to be bringing players into the first team when they have never had a taste of competitive action.

I'd like to see us build closer links with Walsall, Coventry and Birmingham to be the preferred loan clubs for our youngsters.  We can keep a closer eye on them there, and if they are even remotely close to a first team call-up then they should be playing in the Championship (ie Birmingham). The gulf to Leagues 1 and 2 is too great.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 29, 2016, 04:40:46 AM
I'd like to see us build closer links with Walsall, Coventry and Birmingham to be the preferred loan clubs for our youngsters.  We can keep a closer eye on them there, and if they are even remotely close to a first team call-up then they should be playing in the Championship (ie Birmingham). The gulf to Leagues 1 and 2 is too great.

I wouldn't be too concerned by what level they end up playing at while out on loan, always best to be at as high a level as possible but not essential in my view. You are right the gulf between each league is quite a big one but the most important thing for our youngsters is to go and develop as players by playing genuinely competitive games instead of under 21 level football.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on January 29, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
My Yeovil mate says he is sensational, I suppose it is all about opinions but he has seen more of him than me so I cant argue.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: paulosull on January 30, 2016, 02:59:29 PM
Best place for these kids is out on loan with lots of first team experience, mate who's a youth coach rates the Albion academy but says we're still behind the likes of saints and hammers, still impressed though
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 30, 2016, 03:11:12 PM
Can't beat a proper competitive match for both experience & fitness. Haven't seen an U21 game but I know they're often played on training grounds with few/no spectators & sometimes overage players getting back to fitness, hardly ideal for anyone I'd imagine
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on January 30, 2016, 03:41:12 PM
My Yeovil mate says he is sensational, I suppose it is all about opinions but he has seen more of him than me so I cant argue.

My Kiddy mate says he's dreadful
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 30, 2016, 03:50:02 PM
My Kiddy mate says he's dreadful
is that the player or the team though?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 04, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
Jack Fitzwater and Geroge Cleet both on loan Hednesford Town

http://www.hednesfordtownfc.com/2016/02/fitzwater-loan-extended-as-fellow-west-bromwich-albion-man-also-arrives-at-keys-park
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on March 27, 2016, 07:32:19 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/loan-deal-wba-baggies-albion-crawley-town-jack-rose-3023287.aspx

Stopper to stay with Town until the end of the season

ALBION ‘keeper Jack Rose has joined the trail of young players gaining experience in the lower divisions by joining Crawley Town on loan until the end of the season.

The 21-year-old can be recalled by his parent Club after 28 days.

Jack, who was Boaz Myhill’s understudy for half of last season’s campaign while Ben Foster was recovering from knee surgery, can’t wait to get started.

“It’s a great chance to play in games which really mean something, to get experience, get some abuse and taste real football in front of fans who will be desperate for the result,” said Rose.

“I just want to play as much as I can. I didn’t dream last season I would be on the bench for 20 Premier League games and that has really whetted the appetite.

“Going to places like Old Trafford last season and tasting that atmosphere was a fantastic experience and makes you want it even more. But if you’re going to play in front of 50,000 you’ve got to be able to play in front of 5,000.”

Albion have also agreed to a youth loan for another of the Club’s fledgling keepers, first year Scholar Bradley House, who is joining promotion-chasing Evo-Stik Southern League outfit Banbury United. Bradley also has a 28-day recall.
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Post by: BigCyrille1975 on April 02, 2016, 05:43:34 PM
Andre Wright scores the winner for Torquay away at Gateshead, 1 minute after coming off the bench.  8)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on June 30, 2016, 04:45:32 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/WBA/status/748532247616192512/photo/1

Callam Jones the first player out on loan joining Accrington Stanley in league 2 till January.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on July 18, 2016, 07:09:16 PM
I have only just started to look through this site and catching up, after coming back from holiday.

Just found this (apologies if it has been said before).

Shaun Donnellan: Stevenage sign West Bromwich Albion defender on loan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36748676
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on July 28, 2016, 04:40:51 PM
Forward to spend six months with League One side
PROMISING forward Tyler Roberts has joined Oxford United on loan until Tuesday, January 3, 2017.

The youngster, who made his Premier League debut on the final day of the 2015/16 season against Liverpool, will link-up with former Albion assistant head coach Michael Appleton at the League One outfit.

The temporary switch to the Kassam Stadium will provide Roberts with his first chance to impress away from The Hawthorns having had no previous loan experience.

There is no recall option included in the agreement.

We would like to wish Tyler all the best during his time at Oxford United.

Read more at http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/wba-tyler-roberts-loan-deal-oxford-united-albion-baggies-3212441.aspx#tlxq52yHbRlUXOGP.99
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on July 28, 2016, 04:42:32 PM
Oxford seem to get the best out of players and play some good football too...KR definitely benefitted from going there..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on July 28, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
Good for the lad to be playing at a higher level, lets hope he proves to be more successful than Roofe, It would be good to see another prospect return to the fold rather than move on to the chumpionship.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: smethwickw on July 28, 2016, 05:16:04 PM
Considering he was making our bench for the last few games you'd have thought we'd have bought someone in before letting him go.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on July 28, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
 i just dont understand not having a recall clause it makes no sense
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: saml30 on July 28, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
i just dont understand not having a recall clause it makes no sense

Not convinced you can still have them under the new rules
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 28, 2016, 06:25:40 PM
Not convinced why we'd want one. This way there is no mystery for the lad, he is there for 5 months, so can knuckle down and try and break into the side. No risk of having to come back if we've got an injury crisis for the Autoglass Shield or whatever it's called now.

Good move for him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 28, 2016, 06:55:24 PM
Good move for him. If he goes there and impresses then we can recall him and try him at a higher level if possible towards the back end of next season. It will be far more productive for him to get minutes on the pitch rather thab splinters in his backside.

Having Appleton floating about in management is working very well for this club.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: saml30 on July 28, 2016, 07:21:44 PM
Just joined Oxford on loan until January. Decent move but would like to see these players sent to the Championship, just depends on demand I guess

For a 17/18 year old I think league 1 is the best place for him at this moment
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 29, 2016, 08:15:30 AM
i just dont understand not having a recall clause it makes no sense

Rules have changed so you can't recall a player outside of a transfer window.

I think its a great move Roberts personally but he's still a way from our first team and with any luck once the window closes he'll be even further away so I hope we wouldn't need a recall clause.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 29, 2016, 06:00:15 PM
Kyle Howkins has joined Mansfield Town a 6 month loan deal
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 29, 2016, 06:31:15 PM
Good to see the prospects getting farmed out for some valuable experience. It will be interesting to see how this crop does.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on July 30, 2016, 10:23:51 AM
Have we ever had so many players out on loan within the professional tiers of football?

Another sign of how far we have come since the time (20 year spell?)  where the most we managed was the chambers twins.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 01, 2016, 12:55:20 PM
Chay Scrivens has joined Torquay United on a 6 month loan

http://www.torquayunited.com/news/article/2016-17/scrivens-signs-3218283.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 05, 2016, 02:31:36 PM
Tahvon Campbell has rejoined Yeovil Town for 6 month period
http://mobile.wba.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/wba-tahvon-campbell-albion-baggies-loan-deal-yeovil-town-3227551.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggie96 on August 06, 2016, 08:02:53 PM
Oxford fans think Roberts looks quality. Good sign
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on August 09, 2016, 10:03:59 PM
Tahvon Campbell just scored at Walsall for yeovil
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on August 09, 2016, 10:05:49 PM
Tahvon Campbell just scored at Walsall for yeovil
Get him back quickly- we need a goal scorer for Saturday  >:(
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 09, 2016, 10:08:01 PM
Tahvon Campbell just scored at Walsall for yeovil

All that after they turned him down as not good enough while on trial. I wonder if that was behind his motivation.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan87uk on August 31, 2016, 10:15:57 AM
https://twitter.com/StevenageFC/status/770909930345885696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Seems we'll be sticking with the kids after all lol
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on August 31, 2016, 10:23:53 AM
https://twitter.com/StevenageFC/status/770909930345885696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Seems we'll be sticking with the kids after all lol

Wonder why that is, watched him a few times in the reserves. Good looking prospect
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 31, 2016, 11:18:36 AM
Wonder why that is, watched him a few times in the reserves. Good looking prospect

You should ask him out.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on August 31, 2016, 11:25:07 AM
You should ask him out.

Reworded to looks a good prospect  ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 31, 2016, 11:26:17 AM
Reworded to looks a good prospect  ;D

Don't fight the feeling  ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 31, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
Andre Wright joined Coventry on loan until January

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/west-brom-albion-andre-wright-coventry-city-loan-january-3285077.aspx
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on February 06, 2017, 03:25:56 PM
Tyler Roberts scored for Shrewsbury the weekend

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 13, 2017, 12:07:02 AM
Roberts got another assist as Shrewsbury beat Scunthorpe 1-0. Great run to get to the ball and lovely bit of skill to get round the defender (almost Ideye-esque)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSBanMNgJX0
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tuamigos on February 20, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
Roberts scores another and MOM performance to go along with it against Wimbledon

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2017/02/20/west-broms-tyler-roberts-making-waves-on-loan-at-shrewsbury-town/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba13 on February 20, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
Roberts starting to look the part I know its league one but he looks like he`s enjoying himself and i believe it will benefit us in the long term
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheBrom on February 20, 2017, 05:54:49 PM
Just to add, found this story about Roberts recently too:

West Brom's Tyler Roberts has the recipe for success at Shrewsbury Town
Tyler Roberts already feels at home in his loan spell at Shrewsbury Town – and the secret ingredient could well be his mum’s cooking.

Just a hop down the M54 separates Roberts' Black Country home and Town's Greenhous Meadow.

The 18-year-old, on loan for the rest of the season from Premier League West Bromwich Albion, spent the first half of the campaign at Salop's League One rivals Oxford United.

The attacker failed to start a league game in his first loan stint and spent a number of months getting by on his own more simplistic culinary methods.

Eyebrows were raised as Paul Hurst brought in the untested prospect who'd barely experienced the rough and tumble of men's football.

After a goal, two assists and some star displays less than a month into his Shropshire spell, Tyler's mum seems to be brewing something special.

"I do like staying at home," smiled the youngster, who was involved with Wales' first-team squad before last summer's European Championships.

"Obviously my mum's great with things and she definitely cooks better than I do so it's a bonus!

"My whole family were at the Bury game and my mum travels everywhere so it's good. I didn't see them, I spotted my friends but I'm sure they were cheering me.

"I'm sure she'll be there at the Scunthorpe and Peterborough games too!"

Roberts' name was chanted around Greenhous Meadow as he was withdrawn late on against Bury and it's little surprise the supporters have instantly taken to the No.27.

Showing his ability in front of crowds is one of the main plus-points in a loan move for the Albion prodigy, who made his first-team debut last season against Liverpool.

It is a far-cry from the dilute atmospheres that regularly greet Premier League under-23 football.

"I think playing in front of crowds is one of the main differences," added Roberts. "There's an atmosphere, whether it's good or bad and luckily it's been good here.

"It gets you upbeat and you feel good about yourself, it helps everyone pull together.

"The crowds have been a big part of the three consecutive wins we've had at home and I think they'll have a big part to play in the games coming up as well."

Hurst believes Roberts' time at the Kassam Stadium, where he scored goals in the Football League Trophy and FA Cup, have proved beneficial.

"Don't forget Oxford was his first loan, so maybe it took him a little bit of time to adjust," said the boss. "Now he knows the league – it's not like he's come from the 23's at West Brom and realised 'oh, this is different'."

Does sound promising.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on February 20, 2017, 06:00:23 PM
I think this is one of the things TP alludes to when mentioning the academy. The youngsters need to play competitive football and earn their 'stripes' so to speak!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggie96 on March 01, 2017, 01:28:08 AM
Tyler Roberts scored again. Know a few Shrewsbury fans and they're raving about him. Could be one to watch next season for us, especially as he was the most highly rated out of leko, field and himself.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: HampshireBaggie on March 01, 2017, 02:26:43 AM
Would hope that he could step up to a championship club next season, and then become a full member of the squad the year after.

Year on year progression.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: swad35 on March 01, 2017, 04:41:00 AM
Would hope that he could step up to a championship club next season, and then become a full member of the squad the year after.

Year on year progression.

Lets hope we have him on contract which gives us the opportunity to see that progression and fulfil his promise for us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 01, 2017, 09:13:15 PM
Tyler Roberts has won the Shrewsbury Town young player of the season award.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on May 02, 2017, 12:40:16 PM
Tyler Roberts has won the Shrewsbury Town young player of the season award.
Ethan Ross won young player award at Worcester City too.

I hope that Field and Leko would be loaned out next season, they can get much more game time and experience than stay at here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 11, 2017, 12:03:39 PM
Shaun Donellan has moved to Walsall until January

Ethan Ross has joined Redditch United for the year

Good luck to them both.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Morany on August 11, 2017, 12:45:41 PM
Like the look of Donnellan, he'll make it at championship level for sure.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 11, 2017, 08:42:05 PM
Tahvon Campbell has been loaned to Solihull Moors in the non League, bit of a shame for him at 20 to be playing non league but good luck in this new opportunity Tahvon!!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 12, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
Kyle Howkins has joined Cambridge Utd. in League 2 for 6 months.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: FallOutBoy on August 12, 2017, 04:12:22 PM
Tahvon Campbell has been loaned to Solihull Moors in the non League, bit of a shame for him at 20 to be playing non league but good luck in this new opportunity Tahvon!!

Very much a backward step for him. Was playing in league 2 last season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on August 13, 2017, 12:10:06 PM
Kyle Howkins has joined Cambridge Utd. in League 2 for 6 months.
Still playing in League 2 at 21 years old, really a good move for him?
Anyway hope he does well there. :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on August 13, 2017, 04:01:52 PM
So who's out on loan this season
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 13, 2017, 04:48:33 PM
So who's out on loan this season
at the moment:-

Yuning Zhang - Werder Bremen - Bundesliga
Shaun Donellan - Walsall - League 1
Kyle Howkins- Cambridge Utd. - League 2
Tahvon Campbell - Solihull Moors - Non League
Ethan Ross - Redditch United - Non League
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba_1996 on August 13, 2017, 05:32:04 PM
at the moment:-

Yuning Zhang - Werder Bremen - Bundesliga
Shaun Donellan - Walsall - League 1
Kyle Howkins- Cambridge Utd. - League 2
Tahvon Campbell - Solihull Moors - Non League
Ethan Ross - Redditch United - Non League

Jack Fitzwater is at Forest Green in League 2 as well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 21, 2017, 05:54:09 PM
Didn't see anything from us till now, but apparently Jasko  Keranovic is over at Alvechurch. Don't know how long for.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: barnestormer on August 25, 2017, 03:10:57 PM
Tyler Roberts goes out on loan to Walsall,first of a few kids I think
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: barnestormer on August 25, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2017/08/25/west-brom-on-verge-of-loan-deals-for-teenage-trio/
3 more of the highly rated kids likely to go out on loans this week
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 25, 2017, 11:16:53 PM
Dara O'Shea has headed to Hereford FC on loan today aswell until January

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/15496906.FOOTBALL__Two_new_players_boost_Hereford_s_defence/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: bartleygreen baggie on August 26, 2017, 04:23:08 PM
Tyler Roberts goes out on loan to Walsall,first of a few kids I think

Just got his first goal for the swifts
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Nathan on August 26, 2017, 05:26:01 PM
Tahvon Campbell scored his first goal for Solihull too, their first win of the season away at Torquay.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BigCyrille1975 on August 26, 2017, 06:01:33 PM
Dara O'Shea has headed to Hereford FC on loan today aswell until January

Sent off today when 3-1 up away to St Neots. All part of the learning curve, I suppose  ::)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: RogerBadoo on August 28, 2017, 11:08:17 AM
Good news Leko has gone to Bristol City - good Championship club and did very well with Tammy Abraham last year. Hopefully come back ready for a full season in the Premier League.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wardy65 on August 28, 2017, 11:17:39 AM
That's a good move for all concerned. Regular football at a good level for Leko, which suits the Albion & in turn do City a good turn as well. Hopefully turn it on big time when he plays the Dingles & the Vile.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on August 28, 2017, 11:53:41 AM
Just had a quick look at the Bristol City squad they don't seem to have a lot of wide options so Leko should get plenty of game time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionBest on August 28, 2017, 11:59:25 AM
Good move for Leko and will be fascinating to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on August 28, 2017, 12:32:08 PM
Good move for Leko to get game times and it's also a good chance for the club to review his progress.
Hope that he can prove himself in championship and come back stronger next season. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on August 28, 2017, 12:53:35 PM
Looks like a good move and hope he can get some 90 minute displays with the odd goal and assist rather than the occasional cameo.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 28, 2017, 02:41:12 PM
Aa good loan move could be the making of Leko and to get into a loan to a Championship side is a real positive. Time away out of his comfort zone will hopefully allow him to mature and develop his game further.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on August 29, 2017, 04:47:20 PM
Kane Wilson linked with Exeter City.

I imagine they would like to see how he does until January and then step up to league 2?

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 29, 2017, 04:50:00 PM
will show him around town
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on August 29, 2017, 05:07:59 PM
Kane Wilson linked with Exeter City.

I imagine they would like to see how he does until January and then step up to league 2?

Exeter are top of league 2
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 31, 2017, 09:11:54 AM
Kane Wilson Plays for Exeter until January. Great coach in Paul Tisdale.see you at St James park Kane
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Legend on August 31, 2017, 09:56:17 AM
Kane Wilson Plays for Exeter until January. Great coach in Paul Tisdale.see you at St James park Kane

Hope you'll be there to support him.  8)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 31, 2017, 09:57:43 AM
Hope you'll be there to support him.  8)


yes i will be there saturday with my albion top on watching the grecians stay top by beating Newport. they all know me down here so i wont get duffed up standing on the big bank
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan87uk on August 31, 2017, 10:02:34 AM
Kane Wilson's Loan Move official now.
Good luck fella!  :)

https://twitter.com/OfficialECFC/status/903165327080656896/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skysports.com%2Ftransfer-centre
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mikkyk on August 31, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
Hopefully Kane does well for Exeter, I suspect if he does the loan may well be extended until the end of the season. My one worry is that he won't get too much game time for them if they are in a promotion hunt all season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on August 31, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Kyle Edwards joins Exeter City until January.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 31, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
exeter albion

Kane & Kyle
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Canmore Baggie on August 31, 2017, 03:30:21 PM
Great move for Wilson - with Exeter likely to be in the promotion mix all year this should be a win for the player and both clubs
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on August 31, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
Rekeem Harper to Blackburn
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: mateinone on August 31, 2017, 09:33:30 PM
The BBC didn't mention that Harper was a loan, I nearly choked on my breakfast.

Great to see the kids getting out to get some game time.
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Post by: don1thedon on August 31, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
The BBC didn't mention that Harper was a loan, I nearly choked on my breakfast.

Great to see the kids getting out to get some game time.
yes signed a 2 year deal (his 1st as a pro) with us & then loaned out to Rovers, great opportunity for the lad to push on.
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Post by: koren on September 01, 2017, 09:23:31 AM
Happy to see most all of the highly-rated youngsters were go out on loan, T.Roberts, K. Wilson, Harper, etc.
It's important for them to gain experience there and have a taste of first team football.
The club youth development work is on track.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: PsalmXXIII on September 01, 2017, 09:17:11 PM
Our Chinese wonderkid just scored another goal for Werder
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: cads_ap_albion on September 01, 2017, 09:37:22 PM
yes signed a 2 year deal (his 1st as a pro) with us & then loaned out to Rovers, great opportunity for the lad to push on.

Delighted that Harper signed a pro - contract. Lots of attempted poaching went on when he was younger and it strained relationships with the club. I did not think he would sign a pro contract tbh - his comments have been measured and mature though.

He will be a top top player and I think he will be the best of the current crop.

However the year below, the current u17s are very special and have some exceptional players - wait until they hit the first team periphery.
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Post by: geoff on September 02, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
Our academy looks to be producing the goods so well done to all concerned.
With the amount of young talent going out on good loans at such a young age is only good for all concerned plus with the added incentive of TP giving them 1st team football. All this should help encourage youngsters to join us instead of one of the bigger clubs who stunt the growth of too many youngster has it is.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on September 02, 2017, 09:56:54 AM
Our academy looks to be producing the goods so well done to all concerned.
With the amount of young talent going out on good loans at such a young age is only good for all concerned plus with the added incentive of TP giving them 1st team football. All this should help encourage youngsters to join us instead of one of the bigger clubs who stunt the growth of too many youngster has it is.
Agreed it's more likely than it was 3 or 4 years ago that the best of our crop will stay with us now rather than switch to one of the bigger clubs,  which can only be good.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on September 02, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
Our Chinese wonderkid just scored another goal for Werder

Is he in their reserves?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 05, 2017, 10:03:44 AM
Mowbray singing harpers praises
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 05, 2017, 10:18:35 AM
Our Chinese wonderkid just scored another goal for Werder

must be in their reserves as the first team haven't scored yet, they lost 1-0 to Hoffenheim and 0-2 to Bayern Munich.
Maybe he'll get a chance in the first team soon though if he can keep scoring.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: barnestormer on September 12, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
Best of luck to a few of our kids tonight with Leko and Roberts starting for Bristol city and Walsall respectively, hope Leko Rios the wilfs apart
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on September 13, 2017, 08:42:57 AM
I've noticed Wilson and Edwards aren't even making the Exeter bench. Hoping it's a case of letting them settle in and not that the coach down there doesn't rate them
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Post by: johnny Cash on September 13, 2017, 08:47:51 AM
I've noticed Wilson and Edwards aren't even making the Exeter bench. Hoping it's a case of letting them settle in and not that the coach down there doesn't rate them

Edwards was on the bench. Wilson has only started training with them a few days ago as he was away with England.

Bristol City were really impressed with Leko. Only taken off because he was knackered.
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Post by: lewisant on September 13, 2017, 10:39:08 AM
Edwards was on the bench. Wilson has only started training with them a few days ago as he was away with England.

Bristol City were really impressed with Leko. Only taken off because he was knackered.

My mistake! They have 19 out of 21 points so i'm guessing the lads may have to bide their time. Glad to hear Leko is doing well. Harper went off after 45 minutes for Blackburn.
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Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 13, 2017, 12:33:17 PM
Harper being hooked at half time was supposedly due to a groin injury, might be nothing as it sounds more like a precaution.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on September 16, 2017, 06:18:14 PM
Bristol City are absolutely loving Leko
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Scruffy Stan on September 16, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
Brilliant quote from their manager -
Jonathan Leko is like the Lord of the Dance and I would hate to be a defender playing against him.
 :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: vrabbit on September 26, 2017, 10:29:42 PM
Tyler Roberts scored for Walsall today in their 2-2 draw vs Charlton
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: mateinone on September 29, 2017, 02:20:43 AM
Bristol City are absolutely loving Leko

I noticed that. On their forums there is a lot of love for him.
Quotes claiming they will look back in 10 years and be able to talk about how he once played for them are an example.

It is great to see that both him and Roberts are tearing it up.
I think we need to be re-signing Roberts as soon as possible as he is out of contract in the summer and up to 4 clubs are apparently sniffing.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 30, 2017, 08:29:36 PM
If we sold Tyler Roberts to a rival I would be livid
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: skyclad99 on September 30, 2017, 08:31:26 PM
If we sold Tyler Roberts to a rival I would be livid
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 30, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
Goals in League One. At the end of the day it's up to the player.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BAGGIES4LIFE on October 23, 2017, 02:16:12 AM
Is Roberts on season long loan or back in Jan, read conflicting reports. Lots of interest in the guy, we need to get him signed up especially as he is likely to be involved in the Wales senior squad.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Aixelsyd on October 23, 2017, 02:32:26 AM
Is Roberts on season long loan or back in Jan, read conflicting reports. Lots of interest in the guy, we need to get him signed up especially as he is likely to be involved in the Wales senior squad.

When first reported it was a Loan till Jan only
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BAGGIES4LIFE on October 23, 2017, 05:47:11 AM
When first reported it was a Loan till Jan only

Cheers hope that still applies, could do with him in new year.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 23, 2017, 01:06:31 PM
Cheers hope that still applies, could do with him in new year.


What for? Better off where he is unless a Championship team wants to take him until June.


All we need to worry about this season is whether to extend his contract.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Scruffy Stan on November 04, 2017, 02:51:20 PM
Leko an unused sub at Bristol today, and haven't seen him mentioned recently. Has the early euphoria faded or has he been injured?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 04, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
Leko an unused sub at Bristol today, and haven't seen him mentioned recently. Has the early euphoria faded or has he been injured?


Using him as an impact sub. Don't think he's going to make it. Not with us anyway.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheBrom on December 03, 2017, 02:36:13 PM
Harper sent off for Blackburn. 3-0 up and got himself in all types of trouble at the back
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on December 04, 2017, 09:59:48 AM
Harper sent off for Blackburn. 3-0 up and got himself in all types of trouble at the back

Heard he practically rugby tackled the attacker in the box! Oh dear Rekeem!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on December 04, 2017, 10:53:25 AM
Pulled him down, definite foul but not a rugby tackle.

The Crewe boss has come out and said he thought Harper was unfortunate to be sent off.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: don1thedon on December 04, 2017, 11:00:06 AM
https://youtu.be/9ogzZD7MQAg
About 33 seconds in, I thought Rakeem was unlucky.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on December 04, 2017, 11:49:53 AM
Debatable foul but not really making an attempt for the ball (the rule nowadays is you have to make a play for the ball). Doubt it will be rescinded. Not sure what he was doing there in the first place though!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on December 04, 2017, 11:53:28 AM
Of well, it's already de-escalated from a rugby tackle so you never know  ;D  ;) .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on December 04, 2017, 01:24:24 PM
No attempt to play the ball and denied a goal scoring opportunity, so by the letter of the law a red card. Not much in it for me though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on December 04, 2017, 02:19:30 PM
One match ban for Rekeem Harper.

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2017/december/harper-and-bennett-receive-bans/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Fritzl Palace on December 04, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
Was just a clumsy challenge really after he knew he had all kinds of ****ed it.

I would blame the striker in fairness, he should have got the shot away before Harper got anywhere near him again.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheBrom on December 04, 2017, 08:27:38 PM
Ended up 3-3 after they were 3-0 up and had another man sent off as well
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: caravanc58 on December 21, 2017, 11:21:46 AM
good to see we are trying to get Roberts on a new contract.
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/916324157?-11200:789:0
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KYA on December 21, 2017, 11:46:19 AM
Disappointed to see Leko is spending most of his time on the subs bench not what we sent him on loan for.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on December 21, 2017, 11:03:10 PM
Disappointed to see Leko is spending most of his time on the subs bench not what we sent him on loan for.
It is disappointing. I gather that the Championship is now the 5th biggest league in the world financially. It's still a big step up going from our under 21s into a Championship side that's on a good financial footing. At least he's getting a slice of the real world and it should be obvious to him how hard he's going to have to apply himself to become a regular in one of the top two divisions.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 21, 2017, 11:52:55 PM
apparently a few of the onloan guys have been training with us for the last week or so rather than with their loan clubs. I assume it is so Pardw can see who is staying and who is out on loan in January.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: skyclad99 on December 22, 2017, 08:25:24 AM
Disappointed to see Leko is spending most of his time on the subs bench not what we sent him on loan for.

Been on 'One team in Bristol' site -  I think that the jury is out over Leko. Some really rate him, but others are identifying that he is playing with his head down and getting mugged on occasions. Apparently he was superb against the dingles, but not so impressive against others. Some think that he is simply not good enough.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/190896-leko/&tab=comments#comment-3077660
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KYA on December 22, 2017, 09:15:02 AM
Been on 'One team in Bristol' site -  I think that the jury is out over Leko. Some really rate him, but others are identifying that he is playing with his head down and getting mugged on occasions. Apparently he was superb against the dingles, but not so impressive against others. Some think that he is simply not good enough.

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/190896-leko/&tab=comments#comment-3077660

Maybe  he'slacking in the right temperament he started well but has spent most of his time since on the subs bench,it's down to him to force his way in the team if he is going to have a career in the top divisions.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Wigmore on December 22, 2017, 11:42:58 AM
Maybe  he'slacking in the right temperament he started well but has spent most of his time since on the subs bench,it's down to him to force his way in the team if he is going to have a career in the top divisions.
Having watched BC beat Man Utd, I can understand how difficult it has been for JL to get game time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheBrom on December 30, 2017, 03:35:56 PM
Kane Wilson just scored his first senior goal for Exeter
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on December 30, 2017, 07:47:03 PM
Kane Wilson just scored his first senior goal for Exeter
Good to hear, I think he's had a bit of an injury while he's been there and managed to get himself sent off as well so it's been a bit stop start. I gather he's one of the ones Pardew has had back to have a look at in training.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 19, 2018, 07:02:54 PM
Kane Wilson and Kyle Edwards have rejoined Exeter City for the rest of the season. Tahvon Campbell has gone to Forest Green Rovers.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on January 19, 2018, 08:20:40 PM
Think Wilson has impressed more than Edwards.

 Time to give up on Campbell naybe, had numerous loan spells now and has never Impressed
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on January 20, 2018, 05:19:30 PM
Nice goal from Campbell on his debut for FGR
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 31, 2018, 05:06:31 PM
Max Melbourne has joined Ross County for the rest of the season.

Kyle Howkins has joined Port Vale

Jasko Keranovic joins Steve Clark at Kilmarnock

Jack Fitzwater joins Walsall
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on July 26, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
“Melbourne joins Partick Thistle”

One out

Source: https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/july/melbourne-joins-partick-thistle/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 03, 2018, 11:23:16 AM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/duo-join-saddlers-on-loan/

Jack Fitzwater and Kane Wilson joined Walsall on loan for the season
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 03, 2018, 11:26:02 AM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/duo-join-saddlers-on-loan/

Jack Fitzwater and Kane Wilson joined Walsall on loan for the season

Think it's a good move for both really. Fitzwater seems well regarded there after last season and it's a step up from league 2 for Wilson.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on August 03, 2018, 11:28:07 AM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/duo-join-saddlers-on-loan/

Jack Fitzwater and Kane Wilson joined Walsall on loan for the season

As said above a good move for both and we can evaluate them in league one. We must have incomings as it leaves us short on numbers for a long season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on August 03, 2018, 11:28:16 AM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/duo-join-saddlers-on-loan/

Jack Fitzwater and Kane Wilson joined Walsall on loan for the season

Great move for both. I know when we have loaned players to Walsall in the past they have still trained with the Albion periodically so we can keep a closer eye on their development.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: FallOutBoy on August 03, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/duo-join-saddlers-on-loan/

Jack Fitzwater and Kane Wilson joined Walsall on loan for the season

Surprised by this. Not Wilson, he needs another year or two, but I genuinely thought Fitzwater would play a part this year - albeit a bit part.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: HampshireBaggie on August 03, 2018, 01:03:25 PM
If Hegazi and Dawson stay, and we have Bartley too, the young CB (whoever that was - Fitzwater or the lad from Man City) was going to spend a lot of time on the bench.

As a club, who would we rather have sit on the bench, one of our young players or someone elses?
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Post by: don1thedon on August 03, 2018, 01:10:40 PM
Surprised by this. Not Wilson, he needs another year or two, but I genuinely thought Fitzwater would play a part this year - albeit a bit part.
Guessing they must be confident of bringing someone in then.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tylerm on August 03, 2018, 01:16:24 PM
If Hegazi and Dawson stay, and we have Bartley too, the young CB (whoever that was - Fitzwater or the lad from Man City) was going to spend a lot of time on the bench.

As a club, who would we rather have sit on the bench, one of our young players or someone elses?

Someone elses whilst out are playing football every week
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: bradleysrocket on August 03, 2018, 01:16:47 PM
Surprised by this. Not Wilson, he needs another year or two, but I genuinely thought Fitzwater would play a part this year - albeit a bit part.
I think he’s miles better off with a full season at Walsall than playing a bit part here. At best he’d get maybe half a dozen games and a few late tactical appearances when defending a lead.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 03, 2018, 04:49:01 PM
I think he’s miles better off with a full season at Walsall than playing a bit part here. At best he’d get maybe half a dozen games and a few late tactical appearances when defending a lead.

Correct. If he gets 40+ games for them this year then we can either look at a season long loan in championship the year after (or if we fail to get promoted he will be ready for us to use at that level)

Wilson needed a step up so let's see how he fairs. Walsall have a small squad and not the biggest budget so you would think he has a good chance of game time.

I wonder if we're tempted to get Harper out there as well? Or possibly leko for 6 months see if we can get his confidence and form back- he has regressed of late
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 03, 2018, 06:43:18 PM
Great having Wilson and Fitzwater playing together, they will be comfortable as they know each other, they get a full season at league 1 level and it is better than being a bit part player here.

Really pleased with the news.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba_1996 on August 04, 2018, 01:55:18 AM
I'd get both Harper and Leko out for the season asap, preferably to Walsall as they have a tiny squad and they are allowed 4 players from the same club.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 06, 2018, 06:43:02 PM
Rondon can now be added to this topic
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: caravanc58 on August 06, 2018, 08:58:44 PM

doesn't sound like he's coming back

The Baggies fans will forever be in my heart. They made me feel at home from day one & I'll be eternally grateful for how they supported my family and I. Playing at the Hawthorns and giving my all for @WBA has been one of the best experiences of my life. I wish you all the best.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on August 06, 2018, 09:03:35 PM
doesn't sound like he's coming back

The Baggies fans will forever be in my heart. They made me feel at home from day one & I'll be eternally grateful for how they supported my family and I. Playing at the Hawthorns and giving my all for @WBA has been one of the best experiences of my life. I wish you all the best.
His contract ends at the end of the season and it's looks unlikely he'd renew.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 06, 2018, 09:06:35 PM
His contract ends at the end of the season and it's looks unlikely he'd renew.


We will trigger a one year option during the course of the season and get a fee next summer. I don't envisage him playing for us again. A terrible shame and the biggest disappointment of relegation.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on August 06, 2018, 09:06:47 PM
His contract ends at the end of the season and it's looks unlikely he'd renew.
He does not have the call, Albion have a one-year option. If he does well there and they want him, they will have to pay for him
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggie82 on August 06, 2018, 09:45:43 PM

We will trigger a one year option during the course of the season and get a fee next summer. I don't envisage him playing for us again. A terrible shame and the biggest disappointment of relegation.

Hate to disagree. I'm delighted that the none-goalscoring striker can no longer not score goals us. If he'd done his job last season we'd still be in the PL.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 06, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Hate to disagree. I'm delighted that the none-goalscoring striker can no longer not score goals us. If he'd done his job last season we'd still be in the PL.

Maybe if we'd created a bit more he might have done a bit better. Hat-trick against Swansea all headers, two from Brunt crosses, so what do we do ? stick Brunt in the middle, fantastic eh !!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggie82 on August 06, 2018, 10:31:09 PM
Maybe if we'd created a bit more he might have done a bit better. Hat-trick against Swansea all headers, two from Brunt crosses, so what do we do ? stick Brunt in the middle, fantastic eh !!

I'm yet to find a single Albion fan who thinks Brunt should be playing central midfield. Consensus on that of 25,000.00 to 3, the later being the manager and his coaching staff. You'd think after the shambles at the weekend the penny might drop soon but I'm not holding my breath.

Rondon missed a lot of chances last season though at key times in big games. That Swansea hat-trick game goes all the way back to 2016/17 (actually managed to miss three one-on-ones and yet score three headers). Swansea last season Rondon should have scored home and away and failed both times. Ditto when we played Stoke, Palace, Everton and a few other six pointers.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 06, 2018, 10:40:25 PM
I'm yet to find a single Albion fan who thinks Brunt should be playing central midfield. Consensus on that of 25,000.00 to 3, the later being the manager and his coaching staff. You'd think after the shambles at the weekend the penny might drop soon but I'm not holding my breath.

Rondon missed a lot of chances last season though at key times in big games. That Swansea hat-trick game goes all the way back to 2016/17 (actually managed to miss three one-on-ones and yet score three headers). Swansea last season Rondon should have scored home and away and failed both times. Ditto when we played Stoke, Palace, Everton and a few other six pointers.

I think problem we have with all strikers is the lack of chances we create makes it more obvious when they get missed. I agree he should have put easier chances away but after the hat-trick and with Brunt having a cracking cross we should have put more crosses over instead of moving the best crosser in the middle, baffling.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 07, 2018, 08:13:32 AM
Maybe if we'd created a bit more he might have done a bit better. Hat-trick against Swansea all headers, two from Brunt crosses, so what do we do ? stick Brunt in the middle, fantastic eh !!

In that particular game though Brunt's crosses were from quite deep and from positions he would have easily occupied as a cdm.

I don't think he's as bad in the centre as is being made out. He needs someone in front of him to link with the attack though. Against Barnsley and Coventry he had Morrison coming a little deeper to get the pass off him and then link with HRK and Barnes (against Coventry). That's what was missing on Saturday.

Anyway back to Rondon, I wish him well at Newcastle but I'd be amazed if he turns out to be any better than he has been here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 07, 2018, 10:14:12 AM
In that particular game though Brunt's crosses were from quite deep and from positions he would have easily occupied as a cdm.

I don't think he's as bad in the centre as is being made out. He needs someone in front of him to link with the attack though. Against Barnsley and Coventry he had Morrison coming a little deeper to get the pass off him and then link with HRK and Barnes (against Coventry). That's what was missing on Saturday.

Anyway back to Rondon, I wish him well at Newcastle but I'd be amazed if he turns out to be any better than he has been here.

Nope he was at left back where his best games have come in recent seasons, when he's in the middle he stays in the middle and hits plenty of long hit and hope balls which if you hit them enough one will eventually come off as it did against Coventry. He will never be a central midfielder, we are carrying a player in a position that does not suit when we have naturals in that position sitting watching him.

Rondon will score goals if he gets the service as he did before he joined us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 08, 2018, 12:49:23 AM
Dara O'Shea has joined Exeter on a 6 month loan deal
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 09, 2018, 09:28:10 PM
Kyle Jameson has joined Barrow on a 6 month loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 09, 2018, 09:34:42 PM
2 good loan moves for our centre halves. Glad we have a few on our books now who might kick on. Strikers can get pinched early, but defenders, who can take longer to develop, are often tied down to pro deals before clubs notice them.

Could be a good position for us to focus on.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 01, 2018, 12:45:45 PM
Dara o'Shea made his debut for Exeter mid week vs Fulham in a 2 0 cup loss. Might take him a while to break into their first team.

Kyle Jameson struggling to get into national league side Barrow's starting line up as well. I think he played 1 or 2 games but then lost his place.

Rondon obviously got his first goal for Newcastle mid week.

Fitzwater not looking as good as last year for Walsall just yet according to their fans, while Wislon is still waiting for his chsnce to get into Walsall's team. He did however get some game time in the week and did well going forward but may have been a bit more suspect in defence.

Max Melbourne seems to be doing well at Partick. Has a goal to his name already.

No news yet on Zhang.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on September 01, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
Rondon starts against City...
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on September 01, 2018, 05:36:43 PM
Fitzwater must of improved Walsall, they are unbeaten.

Are rondon, fitzwater, Wilson, Melbourne, zhang, jameson & oshea the only players out on loan? Or have I missed some ?

Not as many as normal, shows how many are around the side
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on September 01, 2018, 06:03:03 PM
Rondon with an assist 1-1
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan87uk on September 04, 2018, 07:16:06 PM
No news yet on Zhang.

Scored for China U-23's team against Timor-Leste U23's on 14/08
Scored for China U-23's team against Syria U-23's  on 16/08

Doesn't appear to have appeared for ADO Den Haag yet but since he's been at the U23's Asian games until last week he wouldn't have been eligible.

Will have to keep an eye on whether they bother playing him after the international break against PSV or Vitesse.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 04, 2018, 10:09:14 PM
Wilson has played for Walsall tonight in the EFL Trophy (the old shell that was the Johnstone paint). From what I can gather from Walsall fans on their forum, he was one of their best players in the win vs Burton.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on September 24, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
Just had a little look to see how young ones are getting on..

Fitzwatrr starting every game. Wilson struggling to break into Walsall side but does get used from the bench..

O'Shea unused sub at exeter for past few weeks..they are second though in league 2.. games

Jameson has only made 4 appearances for barrow and are only mid table in the conference.

Melbourne has 5 appearances and 1 goal in Scotland

Looks like fitzwater is having the best loan again.
Maybe if we stay down he will be around the side and if we go up maybe get a loan to a champ side or get a chance
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 12, 2018, 09:41:26 PM
Alex Bradley has joined Havant & Waterlooville on 3 month loan

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/october/bradley-secures-loan-switch/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on October 26, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
Brad House has joined Chippenham

Adam Pzrybek joins Gloucester.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 14, 2018, 01:53:44 PM
To add to the small army of goalkeepers on loan, Alex Palmer has joined Oldham, leaving only Jasko Keranovic in the u’21s
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 21, 2018, 01:05:48 PM
Max Melbourne has returned to the club with immediate effect following his loan to Partick thistle. He played 5 games in total with 3 in the league.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 11, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Nick Clayton-Phillips joins Kiddie Harriers for rest of season
Adam Przybek joins Rushall Olympic till February
Kyle Jameson stays at Barrow for the season
Callum Morton stays at Braintree for the season

No mention of Firzwater returning to Walsall or loans for Leko, Field, Wilson or Harper.
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/january/youngsters-set-for-loan-deals/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 12, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Those deals will likely happen later in the year hunnington. If they don't, it will be awful future planning.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 14, 2019, 05:12:33 PM
Kane Wilson has re joined Exeter until the end of season.

He played 20 times for Walsall but majority from the bench I guess we're hoping he's going to start more games for Exeter? O'Shea is a regular there so perhaps we're hoping Kane will also play more games.

Fitzwater still hasn't gone back to Walsall?

Wonder if we will manage to get Palmer out this window?

As Harper has leap frogged field, will sam go out?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 14, 2019, 05:23:27 PM
Kane Wilson has re joined Exeter until the end of season.

He played 20 times for Walsall but majority from the bench I guess we're hoping he's going to start more games for Exeter? O'Shea is a regular there so perhaps we're hoping Kane will also play more games.

Fitzwater still hasn't gone back to Walsall?

Wonder if we will manage to get Palmer out this window?

As Harper has leap frogged field, will sam go out?

Doesn't sound like he will be either.

..... Keates also revealed on Saturday that Jack Fitzwater will not rejoining the Saddlers on loan as expected.
 And with just two centre-backs at the club, he knows he needs reinforcements as soon as possible.
........"They (Albion) decided not to send him (Fitzwater) back," Keates continued. "We will look to add a few more bodies this week. We won’t be hanging about'."

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/walsall-fc/2019/01/14/dean-keates-to-move-fast-to-make-amends-for-walsalls-defensive-blow/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: allenkevanastle on January 14, 2019, 05:56:15 PM
Due to family commitments, I went to watch Exeter on Boxing Day. O'Shea did reasonably well for a young lad - albeit at a much lower level. He won virtually all he went for in the air and, after a bit of a shaky start, looked comfortable with the ball at his feet - not that it stays there long at this level.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on January 14, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
Due to family commitments, I went to watch Exeter on Boxing Day. O'Shea did reasonably well for a young lad - albeit at a much lower level. He won virtually all he went for in the air and, after a bit of a shaky start, looked comfortable with the ball at his feet - not that it stays there long at this level.
I admire your commitment  ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 15, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
Surprised to see the Fitzwater news. Have had a look on the Walsall message boards and they are not surprised. Their defence are shipping goals and Fitzwater has gone from looking good last season, to very medicore this year.

At his age, the club probably feel it is a waste of time keeping him in a failing defensive system, and instead might look at a different loan option. Can't see much rationalle for keeping him here though as we already have 5 central defenders at our disposal, plus Howkins.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on January 15, 2019, 11:28:18 PM
Maybe there was a deadline that we had to let Walsall know by. I have a feeling Dawson, Hegazi, and Holgate will be nowhere near getting risked in the cup (not even on bench) which leaves us with Toisin, Bartley and Howkins to cover RB and 2 CB slots. If we lose to Brighton, maybe Fitzwater will get a late loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2019, 08:35:36 AM
I think the cup game against Brighton will determine what happens with Fitzwater.

If he plays any part in that game, that will mean he can potentially only go back out on loan to Walsall (or stay here).

If he doesn't play then his options are still open to move to another team. Maybe the club are having a look at him and seeing if they can find him a top 6 League one team or potentially a championship club...

Development wise it doesn't make sense for him to stay here, we are overstocked in the defensive positions and he would be lucky to get a few bench spots from now to the end of the season in my opinion.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggiebof on January 16, 2019, 09:23:41 AM
we are overstocked in the defensive positions

Maybe the back 3 will be returning?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2019, 09:48:28 AM
Maybe the back 3 will be returning?

I have wondered that, with us signing Holgate and rumours floating that we were still interested in another right back.

Even so, I still think we would be fairly covered:

RWB:
Holgate/Mears/Tosin

3 CB positions:
Dawson
Bartley
Hegazi
Tosin
Holgate

LWB:
Gibbs
Townsend


I would still say we are covered if we were to play a back 4 or a 3 at the back with two wing backs.

I would be letting him go out on loan. I would also be sending one of Edwards/Leko out on loan (potentially both if we replace Barnes).
Same with Field, if we do bring in another midfielder, I would be sending him out to get some game time as Barry, Morrison, Brunt, Harper, Livermore would all cover that position.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on January 16, 2019, 10:00:07 AM
I would argue all three of those you have listed as RWB are not suitable for that position.

I don't think we have a RWB in the squad - Phillips is wasted there
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 20, 2019, 08:50:51 PM
Callum Morton had a good game for Braintree yesterday. 3 goals (2 penalties) and and assist as they beat Barnet 4-0
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 20, 2019, 09:01:22 PM
I would argue all three of those you have listed as RWB are not suitable for that position.

I don't think we have a RWB in the squad - Phillips is wasted there


I would agree with you if we were in the Premier League but Holgate was far far better than I expected and could easily mirror Gibbs at this level imo.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2019, 09:20:10 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/january/defensive-duo-set-for-loan-spells/

Kyle Howkins and Jack Fitzwater on loan at Port Vale and Walsall respectively
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: geoff on January 31, 2019, 10:02:14 PM
Good luck to all the guys going out on loan deals today.  ;)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on January 31, 2019, 11:48:27 PM
Did the Kyle Edwards loan move to Coventry happen - haven't seen any confirmation ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2019, 11:49:27 PM
Should really have got Field and Edwards out.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Political Cake on January 31, 2019, 11:54:15 PM
Amongst the fun lately, our young international Finnish midfielder Alex Bradley has bumped up his loan level from National League to League One, joining Burton Albion (https://www.burtonalbionfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/3101-bradleysigns/) for the rest of the season...
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 21, 2019, 06:18:25 PM
Zhang Yuning spotted in China, believed to be signing with Beijing Guoan on loan after his time with ADO Den Haag was a bust.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on February 22, 2019, 10:32:56 AM
Zhang Yuning spotted in China, believed to be signing with Beijing Guoan on loan after his time with ADO Den Haag was a bust.

I didn't realise he'd ruptured an ankle ligament last September, nor that he's recently made several appearances from the ADO Den HAAG bench.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yuning-zhang/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/264429/plus/0/saison/2018/wettbewerb/NL1/verein/1268
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 22, 2019, 11:16:57 AM
Zhang Yuning spotted in China, believed to be signing with Beijing Guoan on loan after his time with ADO Den Haag was a bust.

Can't wait for him to come back for his testimonial, maybe he could play an 11 captained by stalwart Bartosz Slusarski.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on February 22, 2019, 11:23:21 AM
Morton seems to be banging in his goals. Think it's for Braintree ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 12, 2019, 10:36:33 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/april/notts-county-loan-switch-for-palmer/

Alex Palmer has joined Notts County on emergency loan for this weekends game
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on April 12, 2019, 11:29:40 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/april/notts-county-loan-switch-for-palmer/

Alex Palmer has joined Notts County on emergency loan for this weekends game

My first game was in 1987 and we've never produced a good goalie who has come from our youth team, even to go and do well elsewhere, which is annoying when the dingles have produced Murray and ikeme.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 09, 2019, 05:56:37 PM
Sam Field and Jonathon Leko are at Charlton Athletic for the season

Kane Wilson is at Tranmere Rovers.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on August 09, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
Sam Field and Jonathon Leko are at Charlton Athletic for the season

Kane Wilson is at Tranmere Rovers.


Wilson needs selling / releasing first chance we get. Nowhere near the level we need.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 09, 2019, 06:39:00 PM

Wilson needs selling / releasing first chance we get. Nowhere near the level we need.
to be fair Kyle Edwards was at league 2 level only a year or so ago, Kane will probably be one we hold onto till the last opportunity a la Sawyers and Roofe.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on August 10, 2019, 12:08:13 AM
to be fair Kyle Edwards was at league 2 level only a year or so ago, Kane will probably be one we hold onto till the last opportunity a la Sawyers and Roofe.

Agreed, it's also worth remembering Edwards is two years older than Wilson. Would he have been released at nineteen (Wilson's age) were it not for a knee injury? Maybe, maybe not. But although not a gambling man I'd lay money most would moan he'd been released too soon if he'd done what he did at Brentford last season and Forest this were he wearing another team's colours.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on August 10, 2019, 09:21:30 AM
Interestingly Wilson's loan is only until January, not a season long loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on August 10, 2019, 11:53:32 AM
Interestingly Wilson's loan is only until January, not a season long loan
There's a January recall option in the Field and Leko deals also I believe which makes sense really. Not sure if Charlton could end either deal early if they wanted to.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: bournemouth baggie on August 10, 2019, 12:34:29 PM
My first game was in 1987 and we've never produced a good goalie who has come from our youth team, even to go and do well elsewhere, which is annoying when the dingles have produced Murray and ikeme.
Fair point. In my time the only one I recall making it with us was Peter Latchford in the early 70s. Andy Goram went on to be Man United and Scotland first choice even though he didn't play a senior game for us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on August 10, 2019, 12:48:21 PM
Fair point. In my time the only one I recall making it with us was Peter Latchford in the early 70s. Andy Goram went on to be Man United and Scotland first choice even though he didn't play a senior game for us.

I remember Peter Latchford. Yes he made a good few appearances but was never a top keeper.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 10, 2019, 05:40:35 PM
Leko started for Charlton and provided an assist. Field not in squad.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 10, 2019, 05:51:00 PM
Leko started for Charlton and provided an assist. Field not in squad.
Bowyer claimed lack of preseason was why he wasn’t in the squad as Field was at the tournament over the summer. Same as Kayal their Brighton loanee I believe.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 10, 2019, 08:06:53 PM
Charlton fans are raving about Leko on twitter. A few comments along the lines of "he is so fast even he doesn't know what he is about to do next" (think Somen Tchoyi), but generally all of them are very pleased with his opening day performance, with im getting MotM mentions. Good news, hope he keeps it up.

Also, Plymouth fans are hugely impressed with Alex Palmer in goal. Good to see him having 2 good games at the start of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 17, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
Leko played 80 odd minutes for charlton up front today.
Field not in the squad again worryingly.

Kane Wilson started at right back for tranmere who won 5-0 he also got an assist almost played full game.

Alex Palmer played 90 mins for Plymouth who lost 1-0
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on August 17, 2019, 07:59:48 PM
How is Sam Field not getting in the Charlton squad??
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 17, 2019, 08:20:04 PM
How is Sam Field not getting in the Charlton squad??
lack of fitness due to not having a preseason, they have another player in a similar position, at least that’s what Bowyer said a week or so ago.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 17, 2019, 08:21:07 PM
lack of fitness due to not having a preseason, they have another player in a similar position, at least that’s what Bowyer said a week or so ago.

Kayal I think it was
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on August 17, 2019, 08:26:31 PM
lack of fitness due to not having a preseason, they have another player in a similar position, at least that’s what Bowyer said a week or so ago.


He had a pre-season.

I'm at a loss with Sam Field. Something is not right with him, somewhere. I'm sure it'll come out in the wash at some point but normal circumstances don't seem to fit with Sam. I'd love to know the issue with him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BomberBaggie on August 17, 2019, 08:33:00 PM
💬LB: “Sam Field is a bit behind in game time with pre-season, so it might take him a bit longer to catch up. But we’ve got a game on Tuesday, so that will help out." #cafc

He did play on Tuesday aswell for 70 odd mins.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on August 17, 2019, 08:35:13 PM
💬LB: “Sam Field is a bit behind in game time with pre-season, so it might take him a bit longer to catch up. But we’ve got a game on Tuesday, so that will help out." #cafc

He did play on Tuesday aswell for 70 odd mins.


He played more pre-season football than Leko did. He figured in the Carabao Cup that no-one cares about. The lad has too much ability to be ignored like he is, not even in the 18. I've said for a long time there is some serious issue with Sam.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BomberBaggie on August 17, 2019, 08:53:10 PM

He played more pre-season football than Leko did. He figured in the Carabao Cup that no-one cares about. The lad has too much ability to be ignored like he is, not even in the 18. I've said for a long time there is some serious issue with Sam.

Sorry the Post was more to give evidence to what hunnington has said,

Pretty sure Leko played more than Field simply because of our striker situation for most of the window, sam was mostly a sub in pre-season.

I wouldn't worry just yet anyway its very early in the season, Leko seems to doing well down there so perhaps Lee Bowyer is just taking his time with sam and we'll see him impress when he gets more game time. I'm not clued up in Charlton's squad but i see they signed ex bolton and walsall lad oztumer few days ago so there maybe more of an urgent need to play leko?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 17, 2019, 11:08:00 PM
This is what Lee Bowyer said before Charltons cup game in midweek

“I spoke to the fitness fella at West Brom and he was saying Sam hadn’t played many minutes in pre-season. So he’s a little bit behind. I don’t want to just chuck him in the deep end because you are always getting judged. I want to try and get him some minutes. He’s a quiet lad, so I need to break him in really with the group.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on August 22, 2019, 08:25:54 AM
2 assists in 3 games from Leko.
Would be a decent player if he can make things simple.

https://youtu.be/gbL1e9TLz34?t=1 (https://youtu.be/gbL1e9TLz34?t=1)
https://youtu.be/dxWzu-WSVpI?t=25 (https://youtu.be/dxWzu-WSVpI?t=25)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on August 22, 2019, 08:35:56 AM
Field and Leko both started for Charlton last night, with Leko setting up the goal.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on August 22, 2019, 09:54:01 AM
Apparently, Leko has taken criticism from some Charlton fans for missing an open goal from six yards last night, he blasted it over the bar. Had he scored, Charlton would have been two up after 60 mins and fans think they would have gone on to secure all 3 points. 

There is also concern that he loses / gives the ball away too easily. Lets hope that he is learning from his experience of playing regular football.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 22, 2019, 10:16:56 PM
Most of the on the whistle twitter reactions I saw from Charlton fans seemed to be praising Leko and Field whichvwas a good thing. Some feel that Leko can over complicate things and some mention he is probably a better impact sub, but it is a good start so far.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 24, 2019, 11:10:42 PM
Field dropped and Leko subbed at halftime. Not good. Charlton won again also.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 25, 2019, 11:22:37 AM
Field dropped and Leko subbed at halftime. Not good. Charlton won again also.

Field came on as a sub and made a crucial block to stop a late Brentford goal; which directly contributed to Charlton winning again.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on August 31, 2019, 05:50:18 PM
Leko scored his 1st goal for Charlton.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: maccbaggie on August 31, 2019, 05:56:56 PM
Field also started for Charlton today, beating Reading 2-0 away from home to go 2nd in the league. Field had an excellent game by all accounts. Withdrawn on 75 minutes after twisting his ankle.

At this rate we'll need to recall both Leko and Field in January as Charlton could be competing for the top 6!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on August 31, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
Field started today as well as Charlton go 2nr in the league, and had an excellent game by all accounts. Withdrawn on 75 minutes after picking up an knock.

At this rate we'll need to recall both Leko and Field in January as Charlton could be competing for top 6!

I have to say that I am very surprised by how well Lee Bowyer is doing in management, I always felt that he was a bit of a thug and not the sharpest tool,
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on August 31, 2019, 06:26:35 PM
I have to say that I am very surprised by how well Lee Bowyer is doing in management, I always felt that he was a bit of a thug and not the sharpest tool,
Yes his wiki is not a great read re incidents.....but his nose is clean as a manager and deserves to be judged afresh on what he's doing.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 31, 2019, 07:35:57 PM
Field also started for Charlton today, beating Reading 2-0 away from home to go 2nd in the league. Field had an excellent game by all accounts. Withdrawn on 75 minutes after twisting his ankle.

At this rate we'll need to recall both Leko and Field in January as Charlton could be competing for the top 6!

Charlton fan I know is impressed with Field, maybe he can do it at this level if given a chance, we've never given him a good run yet gets written off so easily by some.

Leko hit and miss with them, does some good and then totally the opposite, no inbetween.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: maccbaggie on August 31, 2019, 07:38:03 PM
Charlton fan I know is impressed with Field, maybe he can do it at this level if given a chance, we've never given him a good run yet gets written off so easily by some.

Leko hit and miss with them, does some good and then totally the opposite, no inbetween.
I see Field challenging for a starting place come January or the beginning of next season. Better than Harper.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 31, 2019, 08:28:49 PM
Reading the match report, it seems Leko was heavily involved in most of Charlton's attacks. His goal had a big deflection but he did turn his man inside out. I'm fairly certain he won't develop into a prem player but it's great to see him compete so well in this league. Hope he can keep it up.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2019, 09:18:09 PM
I think they're thriving based on being genuine first team players on loan.

Here you can't help but feel even when we start academy players we can't wait for an excuse to drop them.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mikkyk on September 01, 2019, 02:20:57 PM
Field and Leko definitely benefiting from being on loan. I think Field might've got injured yesterday.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on September 01, 2019, 02:32:18 PM
Great to see them both playing and doing well.

One note of caution though is Leko was brilliant for about 10 games according to Bristol fan I spoke to and then that was it and he didn't play again and was sent back.

Hopefully, he and Field will benefit greatly and play a lot of games and keep up a decent level of consistency.

I would love to know how much Stoke offered for Field if the bid was actually made and not just made up.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on September 02, 2019, 06:05:32 PM
Had nothing to do this last hour so decided to have a browse of the Charlton fans forum to see what they think of our two loanees so far.
In general they think Field has been excellent and are surprised that we loaned him out. Hoping we don't recall him in January
In general they think Leko could be great if he had a brain in his head. Make of that what you will
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 02, 2019, 11:01:53 PM
Max Melbourne has joined Lincoln City until January 6th
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 03, 2019, 12:09:51 AM
Hoping Melbourne can take the opportunity. Seemed to have a disappointing time in Scotland, haven’t looked promising in pre season a couple of years ago, so it feels like this might be his last chance while in our books. Needs to really take this chance now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on October 03, 2019, 06:46:27 AM
Leko just scored for Charlton.
Burke had an assist and nearly score few days ago, good start for him in Spain.

https://youtu.be/XXeB-zsiWlg?t=10 (https://youtu.be/XXeB-zsiWlg?t=10)
https://youtu.be/G4P9OkAVp4s?t=48 (https://youtu.be/G4P9OkAVp4s?t=48)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 05, 2019, 12:48:31 PM
Leko dropped while Field remains unable to break into the Charlton starting midfield.


Both on bench vs Fulham.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on October 05, 2019, 03:42:08 PM
Leko dropped while Field remains unable to break into the Charlton starting midfield.


Both on bench vs Fulham.
In fairness with Charlton starting so well it’s going to be tough for Sam to break in
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on October 05, 2019, 05:42:04 PM
In fairness with Charlton starting so well it’s going to be tough for Sam to break in
He played full 90 mins in the mid-week game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on October 05, 2019, 05:45:48 PM
He played full 90 mins in the mid-week game.

maybe its just rotation then,
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 05, 2019, 09:00:12 PM
Some clubs rotate, some don't. Charlton do, both Field and Leko are doing well at Charlton according to some who watch them regularly.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Wigmore on October 23, 2019, 08:05:18 PM
Both Field and Leko start tonight.

BBC report :
10 minutes -
Attempt blocked. Jonathan Leko (Charlton Athletic) right footed shot from the left side of the box is blocked. Assisted by Sam Field.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 23, 2019, 08:13:14 PM
Both Field and Leko start tonight.

BBC report :
10 minutes -
Attempt blocked. Jonathan Leko (Charlton Athletic) right footed shot from the left side of the box is blocked. Assisted by Sam Field.


Bound to as neither can be in the 18 on Saturday.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 23, 2019, 08:24:43 PM
Field came off injured after half an hourz
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on October 23, 2019, 09:47:39 PM
Charlton lose to a late goal
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on October 23, 2019, 09:54:10 PM
Charlton lose to a late goal
Beautifully understated if I may say so. 90+8.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 23, 2019, 10:39:22 PM
Field has left the stadium on crutches and with a knee brace. Bowyer has suggested it doesn't look good. Might well be the end of his loan which would be a real shame as Charlton fans seem to think he was looking half decent.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Windmill Baggy on October 24, 2019, 05:54:06 PM
Field's injury incident at 1:25. Looks innocuous enough, but he seems to get his leg caught between the Bristol players legs. Hopefully it's not as bad as is feared.

Some nice play from Leko at 1:55 as well. Will he be recalled in January I wonder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdhG12W6GEE

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 25, 2019, 03:40:50 PM
Field's injury incident at 1:25. Looks innocuous enough, but he seems to get his leg caught between the Bristol players legs. Hopefully it's not as bad as is feared.

Some nice play from Leko at 1:55 as well. Will he be recalled in January I wonder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdhG12W6GEE

No need to recall Leko, better to let him stay and get game time. We have plenty of wing cover and Willock to come in should we have injuries or loan recalls.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on November 23, 2019, 01:17:09 PM
Jonathon Leko slotted home a nice goal for Charlton against Cardiff this afternoon
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 23, 2019, 02:31:49 PM
Jonathon Leko slotted home a nice goal for Charlton against Cardiff this afternoon
goal and assist today, takes him to 4 goals and 3 assists so far.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 10, 2020, 02:22:57 PM
Goalkeeper Ted Cann has joined Yeovil Town on a months loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2020, 04:05:52 PM
Callum Morton has joined Northampton Town for the rest of the season

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2020/january/morton-makes-northampton-loan-move/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 27, 2020, 08:16:18 PM
Callum Morton has joined Northampton Town for the rest of the season

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2020/january/morton-makes-northampton-loan-move/

Hopefully we can get soule and perhaps tulloch out if we can get him to commit to new deal
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 13, 2020, 12:52:43 PM
Jamie Soule has joined Barrow AFC for an initial month’s loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: P Anderson on February 13, 2020, 01:09:36 PM
On a side note Alex Palmer has been doing very well at Plymouth, he as been credited as being a major part of their promotion push this year. Commands his area really well and has helped them win valuable points in many games this season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 14, 2020, 08:15:29 PM
Jamie Soule has joined Barrow AFC for an initial month’s loan.

Amazed a club higher has come in for him
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on February 15, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Found this on line about Barrow should be a good environment for Soule to work in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjJkv2ZsiJ4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 15, 2020, 10:59:03 AM
20 year old defender Dan Meredith has joined Leamington on loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Foster#1 on February 15, 2020, 03:45:46 PM
Callum Morton has joined Northampton Town for the rest of the season

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2020/january/morton-makes-northampton-loan-move/

2 goals at walsall today
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 15, 2020, 06:24:17 PM
Amazed a club higher has come in for him

He was ahead of Morton in the under 23 ranks, and yet Morton now has 3 goals in league 2. I think his size is putting people off.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 21, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Nick Clayton-Phillips has joined Solihull Moors on a months loan

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2020/february/clayton-phillips-joins-solihull-on-loan/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on February 21, 2020, 05:51:11 PM
Nick Clayton-Phillips has joined Solihull Moors on a months loan

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2020/february/clayton-phillips-joins-solihull-on-loan/

It's a great opportunity for the lad with a good coach who knows him
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on March 02, 2020, 05:29:33 PM
Callum Morton bagged his 4th and 5th goals of the season for Northampton at the weekend. Seems to be grabbing his chance to shine.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on March 02, 2020, 05:39:29 PM
Callum Morton bagged his 4th and 5th goals of the season for Northampton at the weekend. Seems to be grabbing his chance to shine.

5 in 8 is a great record for a kid in any league. Hopefully we’ve actually got this lad on a contract because clubs will be sniffing
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on March 13, 2020, 09:14:24 AM
Callum Morton has won player of the month for League Two. Seems to be doing very well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 20, 2020, 06:58:08 PM
Sam Field returned for Charlton today, coming off the bench for the las 8 minutes.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: saml30 on June 22, 2020, 11:28:03 PM
Callum Morton with two more goals for Northampton in the play offs tonight. Seems to be doing well there. Does the fact he has been put on loan, played games and scored goals put him ahead of Tulloch and Soule etc?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on June 23, 2020, 05:04:55 AM
Callum Morton with two more goals for Northampton in the play offs tonight. Seems to be doing well there. Does the fact he has been put on loan, played games and scored goals put him ahead of Tulloch and Soule etc?
Well done Callum, good luck in the final.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: colinmax on June 23, 2020, 05:40:39 AM
Callum Morton scored 2 goals against the team with the second best defensive record of the 91 league clubs and was named Man of the Match.
The play off final is 29th of June and if his loan spell ends on the 30th of June can we have him back and play him?
He would be worth a start in our team for his work rate alone
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on June 23, 2020, 09:02:57 AM
Callum Morton scored 2 goals against the team with the second best defensive record of the 91 league clubs and was named Man of the Match.
The play off final is 29th of June and if his loan spell ends on the 30th of June can we have him back and play him?
He would be worth a start in our team for his work rate alone

I don't think we could play him as I think we had to register our first team squads with the EFL and he wouldn't have been part of that. I might be wrong though.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 23, 2020, 10:12:14 AM
I don't think we could play him as I think we had to register our first team squads with the EFL and he wouldn't have been part of that. I might be wrong though.

His age will preclude him from any squad list rules, but I also have a hunch there will be a reason he couldn't play.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on June 23, 2020, 12:01:39 PM
Callum Morton scored 2 goals against the team with the second best defensive record of the 91 league clubs and was named Man of the Match.
The play off final is 29th of June and if his loan spell ends on the 30th of June can we have him back and play him?
He would be worth a start in our team for his work rate alone

I don’t think he will ever play for us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on June 23, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
I don’t think he will ever play for us.
Oh well that's another one written off then.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on June 23, 2020, 12:48:22 PM
I don’t think he will ever play for us.

May I ask you why please?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on June 23, 2020, 01:25:51 PM
May I ask you why please?

Because I don’t see a path way into the first team.

He’s 20 and played around ten professional games is it in league two? That’s a small amount of football in a division of poorer quality.

We in due course should become a Premier League team.

For the duration of the time we are there he will not get a chance as we will explore the market and sign someone better.

I think the same applies to Tulloch too.

Their hope is that we get promoted and relegated again as that may be their only chance at an opportunity. Even then, we would want to return at the first hurdle and will not be rushing to place a reliance on the academy.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on June 23, 2020, 02:17:23 PM
Because I don’t see a path way into the first team.

He’s 20 and played around ten professional games is it in league two? That’s a small amount of football in a division of poorer quality.

We in due course should become a Premier League team.

For the duration of the time we are there he will not get a chance as we will explore the market and sign someone better.

I think the same applies to Tulloch too.

Their hope is that we get promoted and relegated again as that may be their only chance at an opportunity. Even then, we would want to return at the first hurdle and will not be rushing to place a reliance on the academy.

So according to you Berahino would not have made it out club, but he did.

Morton has a similar career trajectory and if he continues to progress and score goals at every level he is given game  there is no reason for him not getting a chance.

It all depends on how he progresses. But as bera and Ferguson have shown there is a pathway to the first team. It all depends on his development.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on June 23, 2020, 02:54:45 PM
So according to you Berahino would not have made it out club, but he did.

Morton has a similar career trajectory and if he continues to progress and score goals at every level he is given game  there is no reason for him not getting a chance.

It all depends on how he progresses. But as bera and Ferguson have shown there is a pathway to the first team. It all depends on his development.

Well, you’ve managed to put one case forward then...

Berahino was also fortunate that the opportunity arose with Lukaku leaving and Odemwingie falling out of favour. The lad took the opportunity presented to him.

He may have the ability to forge a good career for himself but my early suspicions is that it will not be with us, especially if we have a prolonged period in the Premier League.

I would add both Sam Field, Jonathan Lego and Rekheem Harper into the same bracket.


Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 23, 2020, 03:03:49 PM
Well, you’ve managed to put one case forward then...

Berahino was also fortunate that the opportunity arose with Lukaku leaving and Odemwingie falling out of favour. The lad took the opportunity presented to him.

He may have the ability to forge a good career for himself but my early suspicions is that it will not be with us, especially if we have a prolonged period in the Premier League.

I would add both Sam Field, Jonathan Lego and Rekheem Harper into the same bracket.

His loan at Charlton gives him something to BUILD on  ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: colinmax on June 23, 2020, 03:40:02 PM
On the evidence of last night's match and if he is available I would definitely give Morton a chance in the remaining matches.
No one can accuse Kanu of not trying but that is his main asset and Morton is quicker,seemed as if he could run all night and with the 5 substitute rule a 20 minute run out would do no harm and we might find we have unearthed a promising player.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Willetts99 on June 23, 2020, 04:06:21 PM
On the evidence of last night's match and if he is available I would definitely give Morton a chance in the remaining matches.
No one can accuse Kanu of not trying but that is his main asset and Morton is quicker,seemed as if he could run all night and with the 5 substitute rule a 20 minute run out would do no harm and we might find we have unearthed a promising player.

Don’t know if you watched the game last night but he missed two absolute sitters also, his two goals were tap ins. Admittedly he did put himself about a bit
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 23, 2020, 04:08:46 PM
Don’t know if you watched the game last night but he missed two absolute sitters also, his two goals were tap ins. Admittedly he did put himself about a bit

His 2 goals were goals Kanu would not have scored. No doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 23, 2020, 07:19:16 PM
On the evidence of last night's match and if he is available I would definitely give Morton a chance in the remaining matches.
No one can accuse Kanu of not trying but that is his main asset and Morton is quicker,seemed as if he could run all night and with the 5 substitute rule a 20 minute run out would do no harm and we might find we have unearthed a promising player.
I would very much doubt any manager would pull him back and get him on the pitch ahead of HRK, Austin , Phillips , my mom and then Zohore
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dan87uk on June 30, 2020, 01:53:46 AM
So, by all accounts, Morton has had a very successful loan at Northampton which culminated in promotion from League 2 and winning the MoTM awards in both the Semi Final 2nd Leg and Final of the play offs in the last few days, including 3 goals over the two matches. The lad has potential for sure, though as we've seen in the past it has to be managed correctly.

Not sure how it works with whether he could actually join back up with our squad to play, these are weird times after all... But if he is coming back to us, then i'd at stick him straight in training with the other strikers at the moment to remind them where the goal is as he's the only "albion" player who's been sticking it in the net as of late. Bit of a mental kick up the a*** from the young upstart might be just the ticket.

Don’t know if you watched the game last night but he missed two absolute sitters also, his two goals were tap ins. Admittedly he did put himself about a bit

For sure he's still raw and has a lot to learn, even today in the final he had one or two other chances he could've taken but he's got good strength and gets himself about in and around the box - something our strikers are lacking right now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on June 30, 2020, 03:53:48 AM
We could do worse might encourage him to sign a new deal and the old pros might up their game
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on June 30, 2020, 07:00:24 AM
I am fairly sure we can't bring him into the squad for the run in. I think clubs had to submit squad lists by the end of last week for the remainder of the season which was why there was a flurry of activity last week around contract extensions.

I am with Liam he won't play for us. This loan spell has secured him a future as a professional footballer but that is not with us. This is the weakness of the loan system. Callum has done as well as he possibly can do but in a team that tactically is light years from us and in a position that the current Head Coach does not use i.e. second striker in a very defensive 3-4-1-2. He has a good goal scoring instinct but the rest of his game is in need of considerable development.

It is not impossible young players can make great strides over short periods but the clock is definitely ticking
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: colinmax on June 30, 2020, 08:03:36 AM
In what way does Callum Morton's game need significant development?I am not saying it doesn't but when you are fast.strong.hold the ball well,lay it off well and score goals all we need to know is can he do it at a higher level and this should be tested at the earliest opportunity.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on June 30, 2020, 09:21:48 AM
I think that we are that desperate for a goalscorer (saviour) we are grasping at the nearest straw.

The transfer market remains the only option for us to acquire a goalscorer or two and even that is no guarantee aka Zohore
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: seteefeet on June 30, 2020, 09:28:58 AM
I think that we are that desperate for a goalscorer (saviour) we are grasping at the nearest straw.

The transfer market remains the only option for us to acquire a goalscorer or two and even that is no guarantee aka Zohore
It's like the old question " if you and I are being chased by a lion, running at 30mph, how fast do I need to run to escape?" . Answer "Faster than you!"  :D

Morton doesn't have to be the next Michael Owen, he just needs to be better than what we have which, at present, is not much!

Moot point though as I'm pretty sure he can't play this season.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on June 30, 2020, 09:37:12 AM
Morton does look to have a fair all-round game so I certainly wouldn't rule him out breaking through in a year or two. We were always doubting Chris Wood and he hasn't done too badly elsewhere...Morton also has more pace than Wood it seems.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Westie on June 30, 2020, 10:52:12 AM
I remember a certain Cyrille Regis when he was first thrown in at the deep end, so to speak, raw, uncoached, etc, etc; I seem to remember that he turned out ok! Morton is a striker, he scores goals, sounds just what we need.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on June 30, 2020, 12:14:00 PM
As an under 21, Morton wouldn't have to be included in our submitted squad list, however I really doubt he will come back and even make the bench. It would be such a damning indictment of our current forwards and I don't think Bilic is the kind of manager to upset the strikers we have
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tlms-p23 on June 30, 2020, 12:49:13 PM
Article from a couple of days ago about Callum Morton on the Athletic so thought I'd copy and paste for those who don't have a subscription.

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Irrespective of events at Wembley this evening, Callum Morton seems destined for a promotion this summer.

The West Bromwich Albion striker will wrap up a loan spell at Northampton Town with an appearance in the League Two play-off final against Exeter tonight. But regardless of the result, Morton is set for League One or even the Championship next season, such has been his impact since arriving at Sixfields.

Seven goals in 11 appearances for Keith Curle’s side have made Morton one of League Two’s more feared forwards and his brace at Cheltenham last Monday inspired a dramatic fightback as Northampton won the second leg of their semi-final 3-0 for a 3-2 aggregate win.

Now, The Athletic understands, a host of League One clubs have secured an interest in taking him on loan next season and some Championship clubs have also been in touch.

Talks are planned with Albion after tonight’s game about extending Morton’s contract at The Hawthorns, which has a year left to run. The 20-year-old’s priority is to remain in first-team football next season and he would consider extending his deal at Albion or moving on a permanent basis to avoid a return to under-23s football.

First, though, comes tonight’s big game beneath the Wembley arch.

Many Albion fans might have been unaware of Morton until last Monday, when his goals against Cheltenham threw him into the spotlight. Jamie Smith, however, had an inkling three-and-a-half years ago that Morton might have a big future.

The former Wolves and Crystal Palace defender, now assistant manager to Darren Moore at Doncaster, was Albion under-18s boss when his side were drawn to face Yeovil or Merstham in the third round of the 2016-17 FA Youth Cup. He travelled to watch the sides play their second-round tie at Huish Park and was immediately taken by a red-headed centre-forward on the home side.

“When I went back, I said to the lads, ‘This guy is a threat’,” Smith told The Athletic. “I said we needed to be on our guard and not take this lad lightly, but then we played them in the FA Youth Cup and he ripped us up, really.

“I was impressed by his energy, his enthusiasm, his endeavour. He’s a typical old-fashioned centre-forward who likes to run in behind and you just don’t get that anymore.

“Everybody wants to get it to feet, so someone who stretches defenders and runs in behind them is priceless and that’s what Callum gives you. That’s what he did on that night.”

Morton’s spectacular goal helped Yeovil to a shock 3-2 win at The Hawthorns and caught the eye of a watching Tony Pulis. The Welshman, who was then Albion’s first-team boss, was at the FA Youth Cup tie with his coaching staff and, in the coming days, urged the club to do whatever they could to sign Morton before his talents attracted more suitors.

Their pursuit began with a brief trial which confirmed to Pulis what he had seen in the game. “He came up and trained a couple of times with the lads and the big thing that struck us was his effort, his enthusiasm and his determination to improve,” Pulis told The Athletic.

“I was really impressed with a lot of the lads at the Albion at youth level but he brought a different dimension.

“He was raw. He looked as though he was desperately keen to be a professional footballer. He is a throwback to the old days and he has a great attitude.

“His determination and willingness to run just stood out. Technically at the time he wasn’t as good as (Nathan) Ferguson and others who have gone on, but his effort really stood out.

“I had a close working relationship with the people in the academy. I would go out and watch them train and work — and I tried to get the kids involved with the first team as much as I could. I had a good feel for that part of the club. I trusted them and I think they trusted me.

“The other players — the two lads who have gone to Charlton this year (Sam Field and Jonathan Leko) and Nathan Ferguson — they were all technically very good but this kid had so much raw talent in terms of effort and determination.

“He’s a nice kid and it’s always good to see them doing well. I have always thought the kids should go out on loan. They should step up and play football so when they came back they are more manly and understanding of what is needed to be a professional footballer.”

Having been on the receiving end of Morton’s raw ability, Jamie Smith soon found himself charged with harnessing it. Albion signed him in January 2017 and Smith was immediately impressed.

“He’s a really good kid,” says Smith. “The first thing I said to him when he came in is ‘don’t change, do what you do’ — because we had nobody like him in the academy.

“There aren’t many people around who do the things he does — it’s Shane Long-esque. He was a little bit shy when he first came in but he soon got to know the lads and settled in and has thrived.”

By the summer of 2018, Morton found himself on the move again, this time on loan. Hakan Hayrettin, the Braintree Town manager, needed a striker for their National League campaign and Moore, by then Albion’s first-team boss, suggested a move for Morton could help all parties.

Morton played 14 times, scored five goals and made a big impression on Danny Searle, Hayrettin’s assistant who took over as manager midway through the loan spell.

“His work ethic, his attitude around the training ground and everything else was spot on,” says Searle. “His work out of possession is spot-on and he’s committed.

“Sometimes when you get an academy lad coming into a first-team environment, it takes time for them to settle and get used to the physicality of the game. But he hit the ground running.

“He was good in the air, his ability to bring others into play was brilliant and he can finish. He ticked so many boxes for us. I was fortunate to form quite a close relationship with him because he was living in a hotel not far from us so he used to come round and we’d go and get food or whatever.

“He’s just a really nice lad. He just goes about his work quietly. He’s not big on social media and he hasn’t got agents throwing his name all over the place.

“He lets his football do the talking and he’s a prime example that sometimes you should just keep your head down and do your work. He’s reaping the rewards of that now.

“He’s a bit of a hybrid. He’s an old-fashioned No 9 in that you can play the ball into him and he can hold up play and can be a threat in behind. But he’s got a really good technical understanding too and he’s good with his feet.

“He can drop in deeper and he did that quite a bit for us. He’s got a lot of the core attributes of a traditional No 9 but blended with a modern-day forward.”

Morton’s time at Braintree was cut short by an anterior cruciate ligament injury suffered in a game against Chesterfield in March. He was told his recover would take nine months.

“He showed a real desire and determination when he got that injury to get fitter and stronger,” says Smith. “Although it was a big blow, there was a real positive to it which was that he was able to work on his upper-body strength and his physicality.”

By January this year, Morton was back in training and keen to play more football. But his serious injury was so recent, Northampton were one of the few clubs willing to take a chance so soon.

Their decision has paid off handsomely and kick-started Morton’s career. Now, the man who plays in an old-school way is looking forward to a bright future.

“I think there’s a place for players like him,” says Smith. “Shane Long is still doing it and Jamie Vardy is that type, and they add something different to your team — a different dynamic.

“Callum isn’t as quick as Vardy but he’s quick enough. He’s technically good as well. He can link the play, he’s got a good first touch and he’s a decent finisher as well.

“He’s got a great chance of having a really good career. Potentially he could definitely play at the top end of the Championship or even the Premier League if he keeps working hard.”
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on June 30, 2020, 12:56:51 PM
Thanks for posting that. Interesting to read about the less obvious talents.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on June 30, 2020, 01:57:54 PM
Jacko won't like that he is Shane Longesque !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 30, 2020, 02:00:45 PM
Jacko won't like that he is Shane Longesque !

Seen enough of him in 2 matches to see he's got a better first touch and far better instinct for goal than Long.

Nowhere near the athlete Long is though, strange comparison a couple of them draw imo.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on June 30, 2020, 02:35:10 PM
As an under 21, Morton wouldn't have to be included in our submitted squad list, however I really doubt he will come back and even make the bench. It would be such a damning indictment of our current forwards and I don't think Bilic is the kind of manager to upset the strikers we have

However, unlike several other of our players aged under 21 he doesn't even have a squad number.......

https://www.efl.com/siteassets/efl-documents/201920/squad-numbering-report-season-2019-20-07.02.20.pdf

......... EFL squad number lists for 07/02/2020 attached.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 30, 2020, 06:49:51 PM
Seen enough of him in 2 matches to see he's got a better first touch and far better instinct for goal than Long.

Nowhere near the athlete Long is though, strange comparison a couple of them draw imo.
These professional coaches ay gorra clue have they 😄
Shane Long would be amazing in this team
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on June 30, 2020, 07:12:07 PM
Returning players must be returning from a curtailed league, which Morton is. However, players who have featured in play-offs cannot be used by parent clubs, which means Morton cannot play for West Brom.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 30, 2020, 07:47:07 PM
These professional coaches ay gorra clue have they 😄
Shane Long would be amazing in this team

He wouldn't he would be another non goalscoring striker who can run around for longer than the other 3.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Aixelsyd on July 01, 2020, 12:41:33 AM
Sam Field subbed after a nasty head clash today.






However, unlike several other of our players aged under 21 he doesn't even have a squad number.......

https://www.efl.com/siteassets/efl-documents/201920/squad-numbering-report-season-2019-20-07.02.20.pdf

......... EFL squad number lists for 07/02/2020 attached.

He was Squad Number 35 for last season (2018-19).... 

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on July 01, 2020, 08:48:52 AM
He wouldn't he would be another non goalscoring striker who can run around for longer than the other 3.
You'll remember he scored over 20 in his final season for Reading in the Championship which is why we bought him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 01, 2020, 10:18:32 AM
You'll remember he scored over 20 in his final season for Reading in the Championship which is why we bought him.

He's probably got another 20 since....
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on July 01, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
He's probably got another 20 since....

50 (in 8 seasons)

2011–2014   West Bromwich Albion   81   (19)
2014                   Hull City                           15   (4)
2014–           Southampton                   169   (27)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 01, 2020, 10:46:23 AM
50 (in 8 seasons)

2011–2014   West Bromwich Albion   81   (19)
2014                   Hull City                           15   (4)
2014–           Southampton                   169   (27)

Seeing as Shane isn't an Albion player out on loan I'll wrap this up.

Those 6 goals a season sound like just what we've been missing this year though  :o
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on July 01, 2020, 10:52:05 AM
Seeing as Shane isn't an Albion player out on loan I'll wrap this up.

Those 6 goals a season sound like just what we've been missing this year though  :o
Yes we'll let you have the final word on Long for now especially as you commented in his athleticism above.  :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 01, 2020, 02:38:41 PM
Central midfielder Finn Azaz joins Cheltenham Town on loan in league 2.

Turns 20 in a few weeks time, can’t help but think this loan has come one season too late really. Heard good things from those on here and twitter who have watched more of the under 23’s games than I have.

I hope that he is one of many who go out on loan in the next few weeks, as keeping a load of 18-19 year olds in the under 23’s seems a stupid tactic, even if you do need a few to help the kids stay competitive.

As a club we have been awful at getting their transition right from academy players to first team, with the only genuine successful case being Dara O’Shea , who, you guessed it, went out on loan at the right time (by success, I mean a player we managed to integrate into the first team at the right time AND get tied down to the right length of deal).
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on August 01, 2020, 02:49:31 PM
Central midfielder Finn Azaz joins Cheltenham Town on loan in league 2.

Turns 20 in a few weeks time, can’t help but think this loan has come one season too late really. Heard good things from those on here and twitter who have watched more of the under 23’s games than I have.

I hope that he is one of many who go out on loan in the next few weeks, as keeping a load of 18-19 year olds in the under 23’s seems a stupid tactic, even if you do need a few to help the kids stay competitive.

As a club we have been awful at getting their transition right from academy players to first team, with the only genuine successful case being Dara O’Shea , who, you guessed it, went out on loan at the right time (by success, I mean a player we managed to integrate into the first team at the right time AND get tied down to the right length of deal).

I like Azaz he's a good young technical footballer. The loan should do him good, it's exactly what he needs at this stage of his development.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 06, 2020, 04:57:19 PM
link to Cheltenham game, Griffiths makes a big mistake early on but isn't punished, otherwise some good saves for what i believe was his first professional game.

https://youtu.be/KH3O2UzUz7A
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 12, 2020, 05:01:25 PM
Lincoln City win 2-0 with another Palmer clean sheet. Callum Mprton came off the bench.

Cheltenham Town lost 2-1, Griffiths hadn't actually conceded a goal from open play until the 92nd minute. Finn Azaz also got 90 minutes.

Rayhaan Tulloch got an assist on debut for Doncaster, before going off as the first sub.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 12, 2020, 05:11:37 PM
Lincoln City win 2-0 with another Palmer clean sheet. Callum Mprton came off the bench.

Cheltenham Town lost 2-1, Griffiths hadn't actually conceded a goal from open play until the 92nd minute. Finn Azaz also got 90 minutes.

Rayhaan Tulloch got an assist on debut for Doncaster, before going off as the first sub.

Thanks for the update Baggies 👊🏻
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on September 12, 2020, 06:54:50 PM
Cheers Baggies

The updates are appreciated
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on September 12, 2020, 07:24:04 PM
Cheers Baggies

The updates are appreciated

Yes, I agree with you and Jacko and applaud that someone is monitoring this for the forum. Thank you Baggies 👏👏👏
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Wigmore on September 15, 2020, 07:43:50 PM
Carabao Cup 15.09

Millwall 3 Cheltenham 1

Finn Azaz, who had just come on, has his first professional goal, a superb strike from outside the area.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on September 15, 2020, 09:22:48 PM
Carabao Cup 15.09

Millwall 3 Cheltenham 1

Finn Azaz, who had just come on, has his first professional goal, a superb strike from outside the area.

I watched it and it was around 30 yards out, good lad!!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 15, 2020, 09:57:26 PM
Azaz had a bit of knack for doing that in the PL2 as well.

Callum Morton also has his first goal of the season tonight too in a 5-0 win for Lincoln.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 19, 2020, 09:18:55 PM
Tulloch went off injured today for Donny Rovers (13th minute). Will be a shame if that's a bad one.

Palmer and Morton got another win at Lincoln, with Morton again coming off the bench. Sounds like Palmer had another good game.

At Cheltenham, Griffiths kept a clean sheet while Finn Azaz got an assist (but also subbed off). Griffiths seems to be doing really well but there are consistent comments that his distribution needs work, which might hold him back in the modern goalkeeping world (not hugely though).

Clayton-Phillips came on as a sub for Solihull Moors in a friendly loss to Hereford.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on September 20, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
Palmer MOTM yesterday .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on September 27, 2020, 07:13:19 PM
Clean sheet for Lincoln today against Charlton..Palmer playes really well..no sign of any adverse effects from the mauling by Liverpool in midweek...Morton not in the squad again..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KYA on September 27, 2020, 07:23:40 PM
Clean sheet for Lincoln today against Charlton..Palmer playes really well..no sign of any adverse effects from the mauling by Liverpool in midweek...Morton not in the squad again..
Pleased for the lad I reckon he is of   strong character a must for a good goalkeeper.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 27, 2020, 08:17:20 PM
Clean sheet for Lincoln today against Charlton..Palmer playes really well..no sign of any adverse effects from the mauling by Liverpool in midweek...Morton not in the squad again..

Won’t be for a while, done his shoulder bad apparently.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on September 29, 2020, 05:39:45 AM
Won’t be for a while, done his shoulder bad apparently.

Yep, did it in the gym, out for a couple of months.

https://twitter.com/SteveMadeley78/status/1310593684128243712
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 05, 2020, 10:54:31 PM
Jamie Soule could be set for a loan move to Lincoln to replace Callum Morton who is out for a couple of months with an injury
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on October 05, 2020, 10:55:09 PM
Jamie Soule could be set for a loan move to Lincoln to replace Callum Morton who is out for a couple of months with an injury

1k a week off the wage bill. Board have set off the party poppers.  :P
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on October 06, 2020, 01:33:47 PM
1k a week off the wage bill. Board have set off the party poppers.  :P
I believe we are still paying his wages, all of them according to Appleton.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 06, 2020, 01:49:48 PM
Just saw that Tim, bit of a strange one but I suppose the club feel that by helping Lincoln out in this way, it pressures them into giving our lads more game time.

Soule badly needs this move. He looks a bit too small to cut it in top level mens football but this loan move should give him game time to develop as much as he can.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on October 06, 2020, 02:18:09 PM
I believe we are still paying his wages, all of them according to Appleton.

Poppers put back in cupboard and locked away
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBA.R.K on October 06, 2020, 07:37:27 PM
3:00pm- Jamie Soule signs for Lincoln
7:00pm- Jamie Soule starts for Lincoln
7:32pm- Jamie Soule scores for Lincoln

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 06, 2020, 07:58:13 PM
Lincoln reported it as a short term loan to cover for morton whilst injured. Personally think he needs the season out on loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 06, 2020, 08:34:41 PM
If Soule has a good spell there then he will probably extend. The club will just take the view that they don't want Morton and Soule sitting on the bench together.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 10, 2020, 02:40:59 PM
Lots of Albion interest today.

At Lincoln, Palmer starts with Soule on the bench.

Windsor makes his debut at Grimsby in league 2, while Griffiths and Azaz both start for Cheltenham.

In the national league, Shotton starts for Woking and Clayton-Phillips is on the bench for Solihull Moors.

Morton is injured so misses out while Doncaster don't have a game so Tulloch gets more timw to recover.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: sammyg on October 10, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Lots of Albion interest today.

At Lincoln, Palmer starts with Soule on the bench.

Windsor makes his debut at Grimsby in league 2, while Griffiths and Azaz both start for Cheltenham.

In the national league, Shotton starts for Woking and Clayton-Phillips is on the bench for Solihull Moors.

Morton is injured so misses out while Doncaster don't have a game so Tulloch gets more timw to recover.

Clayton Phillips is injured and out for a month or so. It’s his cousin Niall Clayton on bench. Goalkeeper.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 10, 2020, 05:47:15 PM
You learn something every day Sammy. I did find it a bit weird they kept referring to him as just Clayton.

It was a bit of a swing and a miss for the loanees today.

Josh Griffiths managed his 5th clean sheet of the season and third on the trot. I think he has conceded just 2 goals in 7 games at the start of this season.

That’s just about the only positive. Azaz was subbed off at half time after a quiet game in the same match. My comment after the last game remains - he will maybe need to add a bit of consistency to his game rather than just moments of brilliance but that will hopefully come.

Owen Windsor also had a quiet game at Grimsby in a 0-0 draw, but still got around 75 minutes under his belt.

Alex Palmer conceded 2 in a loss for Lincoln city. One of them was a penalty that he dived the right way for. Jamie Soule was an unused sub in the same game.

Saul Shotton was part of a Woking defence that imploded in the final 10 minutes of the game and suffered a 4-0 loss to Chesterfield.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 13, 2020, 08:56:26 PM
Windsor has come off the bench for Grimsby to score his fidst goal for them. Decent start.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 13, 2020, 09:21:44 PM
Windsor has come off the bench for Grimsby to score his fidst goal for them. Decent start.

My app suggests Azaz didnt play for Cheltenham anybody know if he played
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 13, 2020, 09:25:43 PM
Not in squad. Most likely injured or isolating.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 17, 2020, 10:38:26 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ8ytVCzQBM

Midweek highlights of Cheltenham v Grimsby. Some good and some bad for us. Josh Griffiths seems to have had a game to forget, absolute howler for Grimsby's 2nd as he tries to catch a shot straight at him, only for it to squirm through his arms. Cheltenham's defending doesn't help him though for any of the goals as they allow Grimsby loads of time to shoot.

Brilliant goal from Windsor, who reacts to a poor Griffiths clearance and poor defending to race through and score.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 17, 2020, 04:54:37 PM
Some fabulous saves from Palmer today..another clean sheet..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 17, 2020, 05:25:05 PM
Windsor starts for Grimsby..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 17, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
Palmer, Griffiths and Shotton all get clean sheets. Sad to see so many of our loan army out injured though.

Soule once again an unused sub - Lincoln always did seem a bit of an ambitious first (real) loan for Soule, but atleast it's only short term.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 17, 2020, 06:14:07 PM
Windsor assist for Grimsby 2nd goal.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Skeeny1 on October 17, 2020, 07:36:33 PM
Friend of mine is a Grimsby fan and they love Windsor. Won the game for them with a run from the half way line to get the penalty. Great to hear about the talent coming through.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on October 17, 2020, 07:40:18 PM
Friend of mine is a Grimsby fan and they love Windsor. Won the game for them with a run from the half way line to get the penalty. Great to hear about the talent coming through.

So effectively he made two goals. Windsor has come a long way in a short time. He's starting to look exciting. Let's hope he continues to positively progress.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 17, 2020, 07:40:48 PM
Type in Owen Windsor on twitter tonight and sit back. They love him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on October 17, 2020, 07:51:38 PM
Some fabulous saves from Palmer today..another clean sheet..
I watched the whole Lincoln game today,and Palmer was excellent in judgment and performance . Big guy , quick on his feet, brave, looks the real deal. Our number one next season I think, unless there is a radical improvement from SJ.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 17, 2020, 08:17:08 PM
I think Palmer and Griffiths potential was a big reason why we didn't pursue another goalkeeper this summer. They are both keeping a ridiculous amount of clean sheets.

On Windsor, it sounds like he surrendered thr chance to take the penalty that he won, to allow Montel Gibson to get his first goal for the club. Nice touch, especially as at the start of the year I was watching Montel Gibson score goals for fun down at Halesowen Town.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on October 17, 2020, 08:18:13 PM
I watched the whole Lincoln game today,and Palmer was excellent in judgment and performance . Big guy , quick on his feet, brave, looks the real deal. Our number one next season I think, unless there is a radical improvement from SJ.

I think Josh Griffiths is rated way above Palmer within the Albion.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 18, 2020, 12:20:22 AM
 Not getting carried away but there's a hint of a young Vardy about Windsor from bits I've seen.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on October 18, 2020, 11:15:10 AM
Not getting carried away but there's a hint of a young Vardy about Windsor from bits I've seen.
Well I think you may be getting a little carried away to be honest, as very few people will have even seen Vardy play when he was Owen's age. Think Vardy was 23 or 24 before he made his football league debut. But I do agree with you that the lad has tremendous potential.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 18, 2020, 02:03:47 PM
Well I think you may be getting a little carried away to be honest, as very few people will have even seen Vardy play when he was Owen's age. Think Vardy was 23 or 24 before he made his football league debut. But I do agree with you that the lad has tremendous potential.
I saw quite a lot of Vardy at the same level and i did say a hint ! ;)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 20, 2020, 08:54:21 PM
Looks like another clean sheet for Palmer tonight..Soule on the bench again,  going to find it difficult to get a game if they keep winning..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on October 20, 2020, 09:17:19 PM
Looks like another clean sheet for Palmer tonight..Soule on the bench again,  going to find it difficult to get a game if they keep winning..

Another for Griffiths too. We going to have the goalkeeper in the team of the year in league one and two at this rate.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on October 20, 2020, 09:20:17 PM
Well done the lads, keep it going.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on October 20, 2020, 10:51:19 PM
Another for Griffiths too. We going to have the goalkeeper in the team of the year in league one and two at this rate.
Even more important, we may have 2 excellent goalkeepers on our hands going forward.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: saml30 on October 20, 2020, 11:02:57 PM
Is Morton injured? He seemed to have a good start to the season but hasn’t played for few weeks
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on October 20, 2020, 11:08:11 PM
Is Morton injured? He seemed to have a good start to the season but hasn’t played for few weeks

Just not playing from my understanding but unfortunately Tulloch is still injured I think.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on October 20, 2020, 11:17:34 PM
Is Morton injured? He seemed to have a good start to the season but hasn’t played for few weeks

Did his shoulder quite badly I think so returned to the club. Didn't Soule replace him?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 20, 2020, 11:56:05 PM
Is Morton injured? He seemed to have a good start to the season but hasn’t played for few weeks

Morton injured that's why they loaned soule as cover.
Tulloch is also injured at Doncaster.

The worrying thing is Azaz hasnt been playing for Cheltenham of late is he injured or is he a covid case?

Also no Windsor in squad for grimsby today neither.

Palmer and Griffiths both kept clean sheets for Lincoln and Cheltenham respectively... again losing count
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 21, 2020, 08:57:08 AM
While the Palmer and Griffiths clean sheets are great, it is worrying to see Azaz still out and now Windsor as well. We already know that Morton will be out till around Christmas and while i've seen nothing official, Tulloch's injury is understood to be worse than they first feared. With Clayton-Phillips also out injured still, that would mean 5 of the players we sent out on loan not being fit to play, with a few of those being quite exciting potential options for next season.

I hope they have a speedy recovery as we could do with them getting a lot of game time this season.

Soule scored on debut but has been an unused sub for 3 games since. I think it's safe to say he will be back here in January and probably sent on loan to league 2.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 21, 2020, 09:13:31 AM
While the Palmer and Griffiths clean sheets are great, it is worrying to see Azaz still out and now Windsor as well. We already know that Morton will be out till around Christmas and while i've seen nothing official, Tulloch's injury is understood to be worse than they first feared. With Clayton-Phillips also out injured still, that would mean 5 of the players we sent out on loan not being fit to play, with a few of those being quite exciting potential options for next season.

I hope they have a speedy recovery as we could do with them getting a lot of game time this season.

Soule scored on debut but has been an unused sub for 3 games since. I think it's safe to say he will be back here in January and probably sent on loan to league 2.

The injuries are worrying..some of the tackling in the lower leagues is eye opening...unfortunately for Soule he has joined a team who are flying atm and unless there are any injuries to the first team strikers I just cant see him getting a game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 22, 2020, 09:10:57 AM
Have to say, it really is refreshing to see our academy products actually out on loan rather than stagnating at the club.

Just a shame we cannot get Harper out either who we look set to ruin.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Oldbury24 on October 22, 2020, 01:38:08 PM
Have to say, it really is refreshing to see our academy products actually out on loan rather than stagnating at the club.

Just a shame we cannot get Harper out either who we look set to ruin.

It is a shame that we could not use this year to get him some much needed regular championship football, but with the depth of our squad we could not let Harper go - so he will be on the periphery of a PL squad training with the likes of Perrira, Gallagher and Krov at the age of 20 which is probably not the worst experience to have.  If we stay up then it will be time to invest in the CM position and Harper should be looking for a loan out to a decent championship side....alternatively by that point we may only be a decent championship side ourselves and with the likes of Kroc and Gallagher heading back out the opportunity will be there if he has developed at all this year.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on October 22, 2020, 01:55:34 PM
It is a shame that we could not use this year to get him some much needed regular championship football, but with the depth of our squad we could not let Harper go - so he will be on the periphery of a PL squad training with the likes of Perrira, Gallagher and Krov at the age of 20 which is probably not the worst experience to have.  If we stay up then it will be time to invest in the CM position and Harper should be looking for a loan out to a decent championship side....alternatively by that point we may only be a decent championship side ourselves and with the likes of Kroc and Gallagher heading back out the opportunity will be there if he has developed at all this year.
Very fair. I think that is close to the thinking within the club.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 22, 2020, 06:49:45 PM
It is a shame that we could not use this year to get him some much needed regular championship football, but with the depth of our squad we could not let Harper go - so he will be on the periphery of a PL squad training with the likes of Perrira, Gallagher and Krov at the age of 20 which is probably not the worst experience to have.  If we stay up then it will be time to invest in the CM position and Harper should be looking for a loan out to a decent championship side....alternatively by that point we may only be a decent championship side ourselves and with the likes of Kroc and Gallagher heading back out the opportunity will be there if he has developed at all this year.

He needs match time, not training time with players he’s spent the last 12 months with.

The issues of his development go back as far as Moore’s season to be honest.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 23, 2020, 09:23:37 AM
It is a shame that we could not use this year to get him some much needed regular championship football, but with the depth of our squad we could not let Harper go - so he will be on the periphery of a PL squad training with the likes of Perrira, Gallagher and Krov at the age of 20 which is probably not the worst experience to have.  If we stay up then it will be time to invest in the CM position and Harper should be looking for a loan out to a decent championship side....alternatively by that point we may only be a decent championship side ourselves and with the likes of Kroc and Gallagher heading back out the opportunity will be there if he has developed at all this year.

While CoVID and the potential for self isolation are concerns, but i'd argue we have enough depth in the centre of our midfield to have loaned him out this season.

Gallagher, Livermore, Sawyers, Field, Krovinovic, Pereira, Ajayi all can play in the central positions. That's a lot of decent options.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 23, 2020, 09:25:19 AM
He needs match time, not training time with players he’s spent the last 12 months with.

The issues of his development go back as far as Moore’s season to be honest.

Spot on Liam, back during Moore's season, both Field and Harper should have gone out on loan in the summer window. Harper probably should have gone out on loan in January as well.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on October 23, 2020, 10:56:51 AM
Or in the Moore season you thin out the squad by unloading Morrison Livermore Barry and or Brunt three of whom are no longer with us and push Field and Harper further up the pecking order. But absolutely you don't do neither and expect a good outcome.

I suspect German clubs push their own youngsters a little harder in their late teens early 20's and if they don't make the grade move them down the pyramid, rather than getting into a perpetual loan cycle which in some cases seems to be a substitute for making a decision about a player. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 23, 2020, 11:03:34 AM
Spot on Liam, back during Moore's season, both Field and Harper should have gone out on loan in the summer window. Harper probably should have gone out on loan in January as well.

I agree - a waste of 12 months. You could really make the case that Field should have been given a prominent role during that season rather than faffing about with Barry and Brunt in central midfield. Would have solved our mobility issues.

Harper more so is an individual crying out for first team action. He needs to learn what sort of player he is, improve his positional sense and become more involved in football matches. He will not learn that faffing around with Pereira and Krovinovic on the training pitch.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Oldbury24 on October 23, 2020, 11:15:36 AM
While CoVID and the potential for self isolation are concerns, but i'd argue we have enough depth in the centre of our midfield to have loaned him out this season.

Gallagher, Livermore, Sawyers, Field, Krovinovic, Pereira, Ajayi all can play in the central positions. That's a lot of decent options.

I've seen nothing to suggest that Ajayi can play in that role and i don't see Pereira as being part of the three.  The first choice appears quite rightly to be Livermore, Krov and Gallagher.  The current injury to Field leaves us with only Sawyers and Harper as cover.   We are only one more injury away from him being an automatic bench pick.  IMO it would have been an unnecessary risk to let him go even if it may have been the better option for his development. 

Maybe a loan with recall would have been an option but although it's great to see our kids out there it's also interesting to see how many are picking up injuries playing big boy football.   

* Just as an addition I had actually forgotten that Rakeem has already been out on loan - with Blackburn Rovers the 2017–18 season.  Not very successful by all accounts and came back in Jan.
       
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 24, 2020, 05:06:08 PM
Soule didnt get on again but another clean sheet for Palmer and a win for Lincoln..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 24, 2020, 05:06:13 PM
Copy and Paste it - Palmer and Griffiths get clean sheets. Will either keeper ever concede a goal again? The Button signing makes more sense with every passing week.

Windsor plays the full 90 in a draw for Grimsby and again seems to have had a good game. Jamie Soule meanwhile continues collecting splinters on the Lincoln bench, starting to look like a bit of a misjudged move.

Saul Shotton's Woking make the FA cup 1st round with a 2-1 win.

The rest of our loan army continue to be out injured. Hopefully one of Azaz, Tulloch, Clayton-Phillips or Morton will return to action soon.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 24, 2020, 05:26:08 PM
5 and 6 clean sheet in the league respectively for palmer and Griffiths
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 27, 2020, 09:04:09 PM
Clean sheet klaxon for Palmer - his 4th on the trot.

Griffiths let 2 in for Cheltenham and Windsor went off after 60 odd minutes.

Not much else to report. Tulloch's hamstring injury is clearly long term and Azaz injury is puzzling Cheltenham (his foot is now in one of those snow boots as a precaution). Morton is still some way off and no news on Clayton-Phillips.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 27, 2020, 09:15:23 PM
Cant see Soule getting any game time at Lincoln..they didnt use any subs in their win tonight..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 27, 2020, 09:27:29 PM
Cant see Soule getting any game time at Lincoln..they didnt use any subs in their win tonight..

I get the impression Dowling and Appleton's friendship may have clouded our judgement on that loan.

Hasn't developed physically after being an England youth international at 16/17. In January we were sending him on loan to the national league at Barrow (where he didn't get a game due to the pandemic grinding everything to a halt), then later in the year we decide he might have a chance at arguably the best team in league 1?

Should have gone to league 2 really. Still, time for us to correct our mistake in January.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 27, 2020, 11:02:29 PM
I get the impression Dowling and Appleton's friendship may have clouded our judgement on that loan.

Hasn't developed physically after being an England youth international at 16/17. In January we were sending him on loan to the national league at Barrow (where he didn't get a game due to the pandemic grinding everything to a halt), then later in the year we decide he might have a chance at arguably the best team in league 1?

Should have gone to league 2 really. Still, time for us to correct our mistake in January.

It is to cover for morton I think he will be back jan. He needs to go league 2
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 27, 2020, 11:25:20 PM
It is to cover for morton I think he will be back jan. He needs to go league 2

Yes, that was the theory, but if he can’t even get 5 mins from the bench then it’s a bad call.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 28, 2020, 08:19:50 AM

Should have gone to league 2 really. Still, time for us to correct our mistake in January.

“Hi.. is that Darrel Clarke?”  :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: FallOutBoy on October 28, 2020, 09:05:16 AM
“Hi.. is that Darrel Clarke?”  :)

I don't understand why we haven't linked up more closely with Walsall in the last few years. I'm sure it would benefit both clubs, especially as they had to set up a donation page recently to cover costs.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on October 28, 2020, 05:24:25 PM
I don't understand why we haven't linked up more closely with Walsall in the last few years. I'm sure it would benefit both clubs, especially as they had to set up a donation page recently to cover costs.

And here is the link if anyone else would like to make a small donation

Walsall Football Club needs financial help

Source: https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/WalsallFCCovid19

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 31, 2020, 04:11:28 PM
Stop the press..Palmer concedes..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on October 31, 2020, 05:58:34 PM
Defeat for Lincoln but Palmer on good form Soule on as a late sub..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: seteefeet on October 31, 2020, 06:29:53 PM
Stop the press..Palmer concedes..
Worldie though
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on November 03, 2020, 06:07:06 PM
Soule doesnt even make the bench tonight for Lincoln..injured ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on November 03, 2020, 07:43:48 PM
Big Ken.......out for 8 weeks
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on November 03, 2020, 08:27:38 PM
Palmer has conceded 3 so far tonight.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on November 03, 2020, 10:38:00 PM
With Zohore the latest in a long line of injuries to our loan army and the recent halt to the momentum of those who are fit, it doesn't feel like any aspect of the club has much positive happening at the moment.

From what I can tell, Palmer did ok tonight despite the goals. Griffiths conceded 2 for Cheltenham while the lack of goals for Windsor at Grimsby is a tad disappointing.

It would be nice if one of Morton, Tulloch or Azaz might get fit soon, because if we are going tp go down it would be nice to have some players who are worth looking forward to next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on November 04, 2020, 12:21:25 PM
Windsor played a significant part in the build up to Grimsby's winning goal. Watched the highlights earlier but for some reason the link wouldn't copy. It's also worth mentioning he conceded possession a little easily a couple of times, although those moments didn't prove costly in the end. This time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 04, 2020, 03:52:29 PM
Soule doesnt even make the bench tonight for Lincoln..injured ?
yup, add to the injured pile for a couple weeks.


https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lincoln-city-injury-news-appleton-4667465
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on November 04, 2020, 04:56:58 PM
yup, add to the injured pile for a couple weeks.


https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lincoln-city-injury-news-appleton-4667465

It's as if our loanees are made of rice paper.. 😟
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on November 07, 2020, 04:25:41 PM
Windsor gets his second goal of the season for Grimsby from the penalty spot.

In other news, Finn Azaz is expected back for Cheltenham next week.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on November 14, 2020, 02:17:24 PM
Josh Griffiths away with the England under 20's, allowing Cheltenham Town stalwart Scott Flinders to return after his leg break. It's a bit worrying as Flinders kept a clean sheet mid week and another one today might relegate Griffiths to the bench.

Was hoping today would see the return of Finn Azaz but looks like his injury may have been aggravated again.

No game for Grimsby, Lincoln, Doncaster Rovers or Solihull Moors.

Back to the Masters, Rugby and GAA it is.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on November 14, 2020, 02:21:37 PM
Josh Griffiths away with the England under 20's, allowing Cheltenham Town stalwart Scott Flinders to return after his leg break. It's a bit worrying as Flinders kept a clean sheet mid week and another one today might relegate Griffiths to the bench.

Was hoping today would see the return of Finn Azaz but looks like his injury may have been aggravated again.

No game for Grimsby, Lincoln, Doncaster Rovers or Solihull Moors.

Back to the Masters, Rugby and GAA it is.

In hindsight, should have perhaps turned down the call up.

He can clearly play at that level so if he sits on the bench until January hopefully we can pull him back and get him playing somewhere else.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on November 21, 2020, 06:06:22 PM
Griffiths just about gets his place back after international duty and gets another clean sheet, keeping him at the top of the League 2 tally.

Same goes for Alex Palmer who collected yet another one at Lincoln.

Not much else to report, but Finn Azaz did make the bench FINALLY for Cheltenham. Fingers crossed that Tulloch, Morton, Soule et al return in the next few weeks too.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KYA on November 21, 2020, 06:14:29 PM
Griffiths just about gets his place back after international duty and gets another clean sheet, keeping him at the top of the League 2 tally.

Same goes for Alex Palmer who collected yet another one at Lincoln.

Not much else to report, but Finn Azaz did make the bench FINALLY for Cheltenham. Fingers crossed that Tulloch, Morton, Soule et al return in the next few weeks too.
I have high hopes that at least one of our keepers will be challenging for the shirt at the Baggies next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on November 21, 2020, 10:28:36 PM
I have high hopes that at least one of our keepers will be challenging for the shirt at the Baggies next season.
If SJ plays like he did tonight, no chance, he had a hell of a game, fair play to the lad
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: costa blanca baggie on November 22, 2020, 01:07:57 AM
If SJ plays like he did tonight, no chance, he had a hell of a game, fair play to the lad
That’s football! Be your best. There’s always a chance. Always.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mikkyk on November 22, 2020, 03:32:59 AM
My main hope before this season was Tulloch so I'm disappointed he hasn't had game time - not his fault of course
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 22, 2020, 08:59:55 AM
Saul Shotton doing excellent at Woking - had family members praising him earlier and wanting his loan to be extended past January..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 28, 2020, 04:01:02 PM
Finn Azaz has scored for Cheltenham - hopefully he can get a run of games following his injuries
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on December 05, 2020, 03:42:05 PM
How bad is Tulloch’s injury? Not involved again..

Jamie Soule not in the Lincoln squad either
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on December 06, 2020, 10:10:16 AM
How bad is Tulloch’s injury? Not involved again..

Jamie Soule not in the Lincoln squad either

Tulloch is back with us. Moore has said he is getting close but aggravated the injury a couple of times by pushing himself too hard to get fit (the line he used was that he was still learning his own body, which is something ive never really though of).

Soule's loan to Lincoln was a really poor decision. We pay his wages to sit in their reserves.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on December 20, 2020, 02:11:14 PM
Grimsby manager Ian Holloway has terminated Owen Winsdor’s loan contract at Blundell Park and sent the young attacker back to West Brom.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on December 20, 2020, 02:15:31 PM
Wonder what has happened there. He seemed to start really brightly for them but hasn’t been appearing as much recently.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on December 20, 2020, 02:23:14 PM
Wonder what has happened there. He seemed to start really brightly for them but hasn’t been appearing as much recently.

No real explanation is the article below

Source: https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2020/12/20/i-sent-him-back-because-i-wanted-to-west-brom-loanee-deal-terminated-early/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on December 20, 2020, 02:28:05 PM
Sounds like Holloway is disappointed with Windsor for some reason but also doesn’t want to hang him out to dry.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on December 20, 2020, 09:54:51 PM
Something has gone on, probably a fallout.

Wasn't setting the world alight anyway after a positive start. Returns to boost the under 23s.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: bartleygreen baggie on December 23, 2020, 09:45:07 AM
Sounds like Holloway is disappointed with Windsor for some reason but also doesn’t want to hang him out to dry.

Bit strange now Holloway has quit the club too.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on December 23, 2020, 09:48:25 AM
Bit strange now Holloway has quit the club too.

Something has def initely happened here.

Could it be spite as he was leaving, thus weakening them, or has Windsor not done well
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: seteefeet on December 23, 2020, 09:50:18 AM
Something has def initely happened here.

Could it be spite as he was leaving, thus weakening them, or has Windsor not done well
Anything could have happened when Holloway is involved. Probably offered him out for wearing a snood!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on December 23, 2020, 01:22:13 PM
What's happening with Callum Morton?

Seems to have disappeared from existence.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on December 23, 2020, 01:33:51 PM
What's happening with Callum Morton?

Seems to have disappeared from existence.

Haven't checked but I'd imagine he's still rehabilitating his injured shoulder.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on December 23, 2020, 02:30:44 PM
Bit strange now Holloway has quit the club too.
Have read somewhere that the club is close to being sold. Holloway has either met or they have said something he wasn’t to pleased by either way he didn’t like them and quit
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 23, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
Have read somewhere that the club is close to being sold. Holloway has either met or they have said something he wasn’t to pleased by either way he didn’t like them and quit

Sure he was in talks about buying the club at one stage but it fell through
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: skyclad99 on December 23, 2020, 05:03:47 PM
In the tweet that Holloway put out he said that he was away the club was changing ownership, and the new owners had been in touch with him. He thought that the contact was 'inappropriate' and expressed his views. He does not feel that there is a working relationship there so has quit.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OhBilics on December 23, 2020, 05:52:17 PM
Hasn't he been a bit "sensitive" in the past? I can't actually remember what the circumstances were or what happened, just got that little niggle in the back of my brain that he's going down a road he's travelled before.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 05, 2021, 02:23:14 PM
Owen Windsor gone on loan to Newport County
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on January 05, 2021, 07:09:36 PM
Owen Windsor gone on loan to Newport County
My local team - pity I can't go and check on his progress. Think he's cup tied after playing for Grimsby in the cup so won't be able to play against Brighton on the weekend.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 05, 2021, 07:30:19 PM
My local team - pity I can't go and check on his progress. Think he's cup tied after playing for Grimsby in the cup so won't be able to play against Brighton on the weekend.
My wife and family are from Newport, a couple of them season ticket holders. Although I'm now in Swansea, when I lived in Newport I watched them mainly in non league. I had thought about getting a season ticket there but work always got in the way. I find it a good atmosphere there, I went to the game where they stayed up by the skin of their teeth vs Notts County a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on January 05, 2021, 09:12:05 PM
My wife and family are from Newport, a couple of them season ticket holders. Although I'm now in Swansea, when I lived in Newport I watched them mainly in non league. I had thought about getting a season ticket there but work always got in the way. I find it a good atmosphere there, I went to the game where they stayed up by the skin of their teeth vs Notts County a couple of years ago.
Oh right, you've seen them more recently than me then. I watched them quite a bit for 7 or 8 years, which included the John Aldridge period, before they ran into deeper financial difficulties, folded and then resurrected. My circumstances changed and I stopped going after that but have always kept an eye on results and progress. I intend paying the odd visit once normality returns.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on January 06, 2021, 01:05:27 PM
There's a Q&A on the official website with Leigh Griffith's about his spell at Cheltenham. Nothing groundbreaking but worth a read of you have a the time
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on January 09, 2021, 12:01:55 PM
Zohore in Millwall starting line up , can’t see him coming back then !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on January 09, 2021, 12:38:17 PM
.....And has scored !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: richjonawba on January 09, 2021, 01:18:15 PM
.....And has scored !

Found his level
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 09, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
Harper's failure to even get on the pitch for an FA cup game where 16 other players did highlights something i've been screaming for iver the last few years - Rakeem Harper needs a ****** loan move! Following him should be Kyle Edwards and maybe Cedric Kipre.

People like Big Sam couldn't care less about WBA's long term plans but a director of football like Luke Dowling is meant to make those calls. Instead, Harper continues to waste away as an occasional sub, learning nothing.

So infuriating.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 11, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
Harper's failure to even get on the pitch for an FA cup game where 16 other players did highlights something i've been screaming for iver the last few years - Rakeem Harper needs a ****** loan move! Following him should be Kyle Edwards and maybe Cedric Kipre.

People like Big Sam couldn't care less about WBA's long term plans but a director of football like Luke Dowling is meant to make those calls. Instead, Harper continues to waste away as an occasional sub, learning nothing.

So infuriating.

Harper was held back from going on loan by Bilic last season. He liked him and thinks he's got real potential. However, he also thinks he's generally a bit lazy and has a tendency to switch off. He wanted him where he could keep his eyes on him. 100% ITK. Beyond numbers I've no idea why he wasn't loaned out this season, unless the same rationale applied of course.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: skyclad99 on January 11, 2021, 10:02:18 AM
Harper's failure to even get on the pitch for an FA cup game where 16 other players did highlights something i've been screaming for iver the last few years - Rakeem Harper needs a ****** loan move! Following him should be Kyle Edwards and maybe Cedric Kipre.

People like Big Sam couldn't care less about WBA's long term plans but a director of football like Luke Dowling is meant to make those calls. Instead, Harper continues to waste away as an occasional sub, learning nothing.

So infuriating.

Have we got any with this circus currently in charge?

I take your point though, we have players that need to go out on loan. Sam does not need to worry about the long term plans of WBA for obvious reasons. I do however wonder if Luke Dowlings hands are somewhat tied in respect of making any plans at all other that avoid relegation.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 11, 2021, 10:18:29 AM
Have we got any with this circus currently in charge?

I take your point though, we have players that need to go out on loan. Sam does not need to worry about the long term plans of WBA for obvious reasons. I do however wonder if Luke Dowlings hands are somewhat tied in respect of making any plans at all other that avoid relegation.

I'd agree Dowling is probably pre occupied right now given the recent managerial change and the window, but he should / Could have been planning for players like Harper and Edwards months ago. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 11, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
Harper was held back from going on loan by Bilic last season. He liked him and thinks he's got real potential. However, he also thinks he's generally a bit lazy and has a tendency to switch off. He wanted him where he could keep his eyes on him. 100% ITK. Beyond numbers I've no idea why he wasn't loaned out this season, unless the same rationale applied of course.

I get him being held back for one season, but you can go back 2 1/2 years and i was saying the same thing then. His only meaningful spell of football here came between feb/march to may in 2019, with it clesr by the end of that season that he had fell out of favour again.

By all means Bilic should be allowed to keep him for the Aug-Dec 2019 section of the season, but what's the excuse in Jan 2020 or Aug 2020, or quite frankly now.

I understand that loan moves don't give the ideal opportunity to everyone, but he desperately needs some meaningful football and we aren't providing it for him or Edwards, just like we didn't in the past for Leko, Roofe, Thorne, Wood (to a degree) and others who have gone on to play prem or championship football after leaving us.

I look at clubs like Brentford, like Leicester, like Southampton and Norwich and I see clubs who have clear strategies in both player recruitment, managerial hires and academy pathways. These clubs are all rising  and the best 4 run clubs (lb for lb) in the country. We so far are 0 for 3 when comparing our own strategies. We need to fix it else we will just slip back to being a mid table championship team.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 19, 2021, 07:55:15 PM
Griffiths has been beat by the opposition keeper tonight in one of those horrible goal kicks you see from time to time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 19, 2021, 09:44:59 PM
Griffiths has been beat by the opposition keeper tonight in one of those horrible goal kicks you see from time to time.

Bad bounce but he has been caught in no mans land.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: glosterbaggie on January 20, 2021, 10:28:45 AM
Griffiths has been beat by the opposition keeper tonight in one of those horrible goal kicks you see from time to time.
  "Elsewhere in the EFL on Tuesday, Newport County goalkeeper Tom King scored the first goal of his career as the Welsh side drew 1-1 at Cheltenham Town in League Two.

The 25-year-old's goal-kick was picked up in the wind before Robins goalkeeper Josh Griffiths was caught out by the bounce as the ball sailed into the net. The last keeper to score in the EFL was Barry Roche for Morecambe against Portsmouth in February 2016.

"It's the first goal I've scored at professional level, I'd like to say I saw him off his line but no," King told Radio 5 Live Sport.

"It's taken a lot of people by surprise, I didn't even know how to celebrate really, and I apologised to the other goalkeeper after the game. It almost happened to me last season against Morecambe, it's not nice to be on the other end of it."  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/55726023
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 21, 2021, 10:59:18 PM
Tom King’s goal has now been confirmed as a world record, so a double whammy for Griffiths.

Also notable that Nick Clayton-Phillips loan spell at Solihull Moors has ended due to his injuries and Jamie Soule had returned to Albion following.....you guessed it.... being out injured.

This season has been a bit of a write off up to this point both for the first team and our loanees. Fingers crossed the second half of the season can improve.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 22, 2021, 08:43:52 AM
It’s a shame that we’ve got a load of our academy products out on loan and they’re all coming back injured  :(
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 22, 2021, 08:58:57 AM
There have been question marks raised over the fitness of the first team squad. Our loan players seem to have been hit by a fairly high rate of muscular injuries. With that in mind I'd be genuinely interested to find out what training regime and fitness protocols are in place at the academy in terms of base fitness and weight training regimens etc. Foundations are important.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 23, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
For those interested, Josh Griffiths and Finn Azaz will br on BBC at 5:30 for Cheltenham v Man City in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adamstv on January 23, 2021, 05:50:55 PM
Doing ok at the moment. Great save by griffiths  Think Cheltenham have been more in Man City half in 15 minutes than we were in 90 minutes
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AbbeymeadBaggie on January 23, 2021, 05:58:27 PM
Finn Azaz creating loads and another save by Griffiths - sign 'em up
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on January 23, 2021, 06:01:11 PM
Finn Azaz creating loads and another save by Griffiths - sign 'em up

I've seen Azaz a couple of times in the stiffs, looked a decent player. May be he could be a squad member next season if in the Championship?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: albion59 on January 23, 2021, 06:29:33 PM
I've seen Azaz a couple of times in the stiffs, looked a decent player. May be he could be a squad member next season if in the Championship?
He is playing against a top team and doesn't look out of place. Get him back and in the squad we have got nothing to lose.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 23, 2021, 06:58:52 PM
Griffiths and Azaz giving a good account of themselves.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on January 23, 2021, 07:00:49 PM
Griffiths and Azaz giving a good account of themselves.

I'd like to see both of them in our squad next season. Callum Morton as well.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 23, 2021, 07:01:25 PM
Let me guess Azaz will be out of contract in 5 months
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on January 23, 2021, 07:01:47 PM
Azzaz looks to have plenty of football ability but perhaps lacking in the athletic/physical department , opposite of the keeper who I hope doesn’t grow any taller !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on January 23, 2021, 07:05:33 PM
Let me guess Azaz will be out of contract in 5 months

Yep.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on January 23, 2021, 07:13:27 PM
Let me guess Azaz will be out of contract in 5 months

Expires may 2021 according to a couple google searches.

But strange of us to let him leave on loan for a season which his contract would expire. Unless we have a deal in place?

Looks tidy though and though he could do a job in championship.

Griffiths looks a talent too, him and Palmer to fight it out for the number one spot soon.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 23, 2021, 07:14:51 PM
Does seem weird to let him out on a season loan if there's no recall option as he could shine and walk on a free. Saying that this is the Albion so it makes sense.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: albion59 on January 23, 2021, 07:15:26 PM
Danny Murphy just heaping praise on Azaz!  Now there's a first!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 23, 2021, 07:15:40 PM
Azaz gone off he look burned out last 15 minutes has now gone off
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggiebof on January 23, 2021, 07:53:48 PM
I'd expect there'll be an extra year option in our favour with Azaz.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 23, 2021, 08:12:24 PM
You would hope there was a year's option on Azaz, or that the records of his contract are wrong. In fairness, I doubt clubs will be banging our door down for him as they would still need to pay the compensation fee regardless which will be off putting for a 20 year old who still has a lot of questions marks over him. He has had a good game on the back of a solid season, but the step up to league 1 would be his next step you would think. I would imagine he will sign a new contract and then we will look at a league 1 loan (hopefully with a promoted Cheltenham Town).
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 23, 2021, 08:47:24 PM
Does seem weird to let him out on a season loan if there's no recall option as he could shine and walk on a free. Saying that this is the Albion so it makes sense.

Azaz has a long way to go, and isn’t where they were, but If the club has not learnt from Tyler Roberts and Nathan Fergusson I honestly don’t know what to say.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 23, 2021, 08:57:13 PM
Azaz has a long way to go, and isn’t where they were, but If the club has not learnt from Tyler Roberts and Nathan Fergusson I honestly don’t know what to say.

Exactly right. We never learn EVER.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 23, 2021, 10:02:18 PM
Loan round up.

Kenneth Zohore was subbed off in a 3-0 loss for Milwall today, the reviews aren't great (what on earth made Dowling think he would be a good signing????). Charlie Austin was also subbed off for QPR in their loss to Derby.

Owen Windsor was not in the Newport County squad despite playing mid week and because he is an Albion loanee there is a 99% chance he has an injury, because that's God's wish at the moment.

On a brighter note, Alex Palmer's Lincoln won 2-1 and remain in the automatic promotion places. Palmer is currently on 12 clean sheets for the season and the Lincoln twitter account asked last week what Imps fans thought of him. Many say he is there best ever, never does anything wrong and is destined for the top. Plymouth fans were replying saying how brilliant he was for them. Whatever happens this season, we should look to cash in on Johnstone if the chance arises.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 24, 2021, 12:39:28 AM
Loan round up.

Kenneth Zohore was subbed off in a 3-0 loss for Milwall today, the reviews aren't great (what on earth made Dowling think he would be a good signing????). Charlie Austin was also subbed off for QPR in their loss to Derby.

Owen Windsor was not in the Newport County squad despite playing mid week and because he is an Albion loanee there is a 99% chance he has an injury, because that's God's wish at the moment.

On a brighter note, Alex Palmer's Lincoln won 2-1 and remain in the automatic promotion places. Palmer is currently on 12 clean sheets for the season and the Lincoln twitter account asked last week what Imps fans thought of him. Many say he is there best ever, never does anything wrong and is destined for the top. Plymouth fans were replying saying how brilliant he was for them. Whatever happens this season, we should look to cash in on Johnstone if the chance arises.

I agree cash in on johnstone on relegation and then give palmer a go. Get Griffiths in league 1 on loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 24, 2021, 09:37:45 AM
Agree Beechy. The ideal scenario is that Cheltenham get promoted allowing us to loan Azaz and Griffiths to familiar territory there next season and we get a silly money offer for Johnstone which allows us to then reinvigorate others areas of our squad. Admittedly, we will need a side in desperate need of a keeper and i'm not sure who thay side would be (Sheff Utd are already regretting the moneythey spent on Ramsdale who is having a horror season) but if we had modest expectations, we might be able to get around the £12 mil mark.

On a slightly different note, following the Lincoln game yesterday allowed me to track Morgan Rogers on his first ever senior start. By all accounts he struggled to have any impact and was subbed off. I'm conflicted what to think with Rogers, on one hand i'd love an Albion fan to make it into the England side that looks a good bet to eventually win a major tournament (especially as Ramsdale looks like he is going to sink out of contention), but then we could do with as many cases as possible pf players flopping after choosing to leave our academy. I think it gives us the upper hand in keeping any other promising kids in the future.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 24, 2021, 10:04:13 AM
Agree Beechy. The ideal scenario is that Cheltenham get promoted allowing us to loan Azaz and Griffiths to familiar territory there next season and we get a silly money offer for Johnstone which allows us to then reinvigorate others areas of our squad. Admittedly, we will need a side in desperate need of a keeper and i'm not sure who thay side would be (Sheff Utd are already regretting the moneythey spent on Ramsdale who is having a horror season) but if we had modest expectations, we might be able to get around the £12 mil mark.

On a slightly different note, following the Lincoln game yesterday allowed me to track Morgan Rogers on his first ever senior start. By all accounts he struggled to have any impact and was subbed off. I'm conflicted what to think with Rogers, on one hand i'd love an Albion fan to make it into the England side that looks a good bet to eventually win a major tournament (especially as Ramsdale looks like he is going to sink out of contention), but then we could do with as many cases as possible pf players flopping after choosing to leave our academy. I think it gives us the upper hand in keeping any other promising kids in the future.

Morgan Rogers is still very highly rated, it’ll be at least two years before we can judge him. His prem 2 record is good and he’s still just 18. Men’s football takes some getting used to, and the lower leagues will be like nothing he’s played in before.

I agree we need to find a way to keep them, but getting some young kids in our side and having them go on to top clubs would be better than those going to early failing, as that alone strangely supports taking money while your stocks high.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 24, 2021, 11:55:51 AM
Ironically enough if City hadn't sent Rogers out on loan Pep would have had an opportunity to see how Rogers faired against League One opposition in person yesterday. And all be it they're different ages we could have compared his progress to Azaz and Griffiths on national TV at  the same time. Funny old game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OhBilics on January 24, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
Ironically enough if City hadn't sent Rogers out on loan Pep would have had an opportunity to see how Rogers faired against League One opposition in person
By playing him against us on Tuesday?

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Ah, okay.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 24, 2021, 04:37:20 PM
Morgan Rogers is still very highly rated, it’ll be at least two years before we can judge him. His prem 2 record is good and he’s still just 18. Men’s football takes some getting used to, and the lower leagues will be like nothing he’s played in before.

I agree we need to find a way to keep them, but getting some young kids in our side and having them go on to top clubs would be better than those going to early failing, as that alone strangely supports taking money while your stocks high.

Oh of course, you  can't make any sort of informed judgement at the moment, especially at his age. There are signals to follow though and the fact he has gone out on loan at all might not bode well. I've read a few people who follow youth football suggest recently that if a player goes out on loan from a top club, it quite often means they are probably going so with an eye to their eventual sale. Whether that is a true assessment or not I can't be sure and Harvey Elliott at Liverpool (currently on loan at Blackburn) does show It isn't always the case. If you look at Man City's top academy players however, Foden, Harwood-Bellis, Doyle, Delap, Bernabe, Palmer and Felix Nemecha have all been involved in match day squads this year and none of them have had a single loan move in their careers. Compare that to Lucas Nmecha, City sent him on loan at 19 with his stock still quite high but his subsequent struggles suggest Man City knew there was something not quite clicking for him. At 22 he is out playing on loan in Belgium. It's an indicator, rather than a foregone conclusion.

As for how successful I want the likes of Sinclair, Dhanda, Smith, Rogers, Barry and Brown to be, in the main I still subscribe to the view that it is better for us if they flop after jumping too soon. If we can provide evidence that staying at the club provides a better route to pro football than going elsewhere does, then it will be easier to convince players in the future not to leave. Of course, we need to hold our end of the bargain up for that to work.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 24, 2021, 06:18:47 PM
Oh of course, you  can't make any sort of informed judgement at the moment, especially at his age. There are signals to follow though and the fact he has gone out on loan at all might not bode well. I've read a few people who follow youth football suggest recently that if a player goes out on loan from a top club, it quite often means they are probably going so with an eye to their eventual sale. Whether that is a true assessment or not I can't be sure and Harvey Elliott at Liverpool (currently on loan at Blackburn) does show It isn't always the case. If you look at Man City's top academy players however, Foden, Harwood-Bellis, Doyle, Delap, Bernabe, Palmer and Felix Nemecha have all been involved in match day squads this year and none of them have had a single loan move in their careers. Compare that to Lucas Nmecha, City sent him on loan at 19 with his stock still quite high but his subsequent struggles suggest Man City knew there was something not quite clicking for him. At 22 he is out playing on loan in Belgium. It's an indicator, rather than a foregone conclusion.

As for how successful I want the likes of Sinclair, Dhanda, Smith, Rogers, Barry and Brown to be, in the main I still subscribe to the view that it is better for us if they flop after jumping too soon. If we can provide evidence that staying at the club provides a better route to pro football than going elsewhere does, then it will be easier to convince players in the future not to leave. Of course, we need to hold our end of the bargain up for that to work.

It is interesting if that’s the current perception on loans, but I can’t think of too many players we can claim City have bought through successfully yet besides Foden, so it’s yet to be seen how successful there chosen course of action is despite having swept up some of the best young talent for quite a few years now.  I’d be surprised if more of those city kids don’t go out too.

If you look at the last England squad, only Saka, Foden and Winks have come from the big 6 without getting time elsewhere. (TAA and Rashford would be others admittedly who must have missed the last squad) but they were all playing quite young for their own sides.

So maybe the mistake is not getting more football for these kids  at key stages in their development.

I agree completely we have to be able to offer the route to football, but. I’m not sure tonnes failing will necessarily stop the next one from turning down the big move. I could counter that argument if it was used on the next young pro quite easily I think. Rogers is the only one I want to succeed though.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2021, 09:48:58 PM
Josh Griffiths with another clean sheet for Cheltenham and Alex Palmer with ANOTHER clean sheet for Lincoln.

Morgan Rogers scored for Lincoln.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 27, 2021, 12:20:21 AM
Josh Griffiths with another clean sheet for Cheltenham and Alex Palmer with ANOTHER clean sheet for Lincoln.

Morgan Rogers scored for Lincoln.
Hoorah!!! The future looks bright...again..and again...and again....
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: halifax_baggie on January 31, 2021, 07:12:45 PM
How's Leko doing at Blues?


Sorry brain freeze. left already ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on January 31, 2021, 07:15:20 PM
How's Leco doing at Blues?
Came on as sub yesterday (71mins)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: royhan on January 31, 2021, 07:23:49 PM
He’s not on loan. He was sold for £1m, I believe
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on February 01, 2021, 02:41:41 PM
I've heard a rumour that Owen Windsor has returned to the Albion from Newport County.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on February 01, 2021, 07:53:08 PM
I've heard a rumour that Owen Windsor has returned to the Albion from Newport County.
Assume that's injury related ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 01, 2021, 08:02:26 PM
Assume that's injury related ?
South Wales Argus suggests its due to high number of strikers and few spare loan slots.

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/19054048.owen-windsor-returns-west-bromwich-albion-newport/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on February 01, 2021, 08:09:03 PM
South Wales Argus suggests its due to high number of strikers and few spare loan slots.

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/19054048.owen-windsor-returns-west-bromwich-albion-newport/
Cheers, this seems a bit weird if there's no injury. He only signed early Jan so say until the end of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2021, 09:43:38 PM
Being sent back by two clubs in the space a matter of months isn't a good sign.....
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 01, 2021, 10:11:30 PM
Do Walsall not need a favour? :D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on February 02, 2021, 09:04:03 PM
Harper cant even get in a shocking Blues side. Neither can Leko for what it's worth.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on February 02, 2021, 11:08:42 PM
Harper cant even get in a shocking Blues side. Neither can Leko for what it's worth.

Maybe our young players or ex players arent as good as we think
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 02, 2021, 11:11:45 PM
From what I’ve read, Harper had a decent enough cameo on his debut, tonight Karanka only made 1 substitution.

Early days, but if he is only used sparingly then this will be a real failure for the loans manager.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 03, 2021, 09:38:04 AM
Alex Palmer saved 3 penalties last night for Lincoln as they beat Hull in a shootout to reach the semi finals of the EFL trophy.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on February 03, 2021, 09:44:10 AM
Alex Palmer saved 3 penalties last night for Lincoln as they beat Hull in a shootout to reach the semi finals of the EFL trophy.

He's surely good enough for the Championship. I'd cash in on Johnstone in the summer.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on February 03, 2021, 10:29:30 AM
Maybe our young players or ex players arent as good as we think

I think it is a little bit more complex than that.

We seem to be good at identifying talent and nurturing it until their first professional contract this is validated to some degree by international call ups and the fact that elite level clubs come along and nick some of the talent as soon as they can.

We don't seem to be particularly good and developing that talent from 16 through to 21. However the talent that has left us hasn't trained on particularly well either.

Now for context I think something like 70% of the players that sign professional contracts at 16 are no longer in the game by the time they are 23. The game breaks and discards young players at an alarming rate. Every shinning example of a 23 year old who is playing Premier League football having come through their club's academy played their under 18 football with at least 10 other players. Those players are for most part not professional footballers and those that are still in the game are about as far away from the Premier League as it is possible to be and the Championship is a decent outcome.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on February 03, 2021, 10:31:32 AM
He's surely good enough for the Championship. I'd cash in on Johnstone in the summer.

If Johnstone continues his form his stock should be quite high in the summer, with one year left on his contract we will more than likely cash in.

We have Palmer who’s impressing and Griffiths just behind him who is also having a good season. If we keep Button/Lonergan on the books too I’d be happy to have Palmer as number 1 next year.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 03, 2021, 10:35:26 AM
If Johnstone continues his form his stock should be quite high in the summer, with one year left on his contract we will more than likely cash in.

We have Palmer who’s impressing and Griffiths just behind him who is also having a good season. If we keep Button/Lonergan on the books too I’d be happy to have Palmer as number 1 next year.

We’ve just got to hope there is a club that needs a keeper. Everton are a maybe, promoted clubs aswell.

£10m might be the best we can hope for.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mister AT on February 03, 2021, 10:38:55 AM
We’ve just got to hope there is a club that needs a keeper. Everton are a maybe, promoted clubs aswell.

£10m might be the best we can hope for.

Spurs will more than likely need a backup.
Everton may look to move on Pickford but imagine they’d want a bigger name.
Brighton
Any 3 of the promoted
Palace maybe
Sounds abit unrealistic but even a team like Liverpool could have a look at him to replace Adrian
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on February 03, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Maybe our young players or ex players arent as good as we think
It does make you wonder. We seem to have an issue with intensity throughout the club and the young players coming through never look like they're busting a gut to impress. This certainly applies to Harper. I'll leave the defenders Ferguson and O'Shea out of that criticism...they have enough about them to have a good career in one of the top two divisions which isn't to be sniffed at.
The most energetic performance from one of our youngsters I've seen was Callum Morton at Northampton, would be nice to see his luck with injuries change but that's another common theme.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OhBilics on February 03, 2021, 06:32:47 PM
Being sent back by two clubs in the space a matter of months isn't a good sign.....
It could be something as simple as homesickness. He's only 19.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 03, 2021, 06:47:29 PM
It could be something as simple as homesickness. He's only 19.

If it was home sickness, why would we send him out for a second time?

It could be something simple, but it's not a great look from the outside.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on February 03, 2021, 07:14:20 PM
It's got certain charms but Newport would make many homesick.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 06, 2021, 03:43:51 PM
Zohore with a goal from the penalty spot today

Sam Field not in the QPR squad today.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 13, 2021, 06:05:38 PM
Harper (and Leko for that matter) getting pelters on Blues twitter. It's hard to go into a struggling team and make an impact, but Harper is running out of time now. He needs to take this chance.

If it doesn't work out over the next few months, we need to be brave and immediately loan him out to a league 1 club for the first part of next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 14, 2021, 08:59:28 AM
Harper (and Leko for that matter) getting pelters on Blues twitter. It's hard to go into a struggling team and make an impact, but Harper is running out of time now. He needs to take this chance.

If it doesn't work out over the next few months, we need to be brave and immediately loan him out to a league 1 club for the first part of next season.

Are they performing badly or are they taking the flak for everything going on at Blues?  ::)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on February 14, 2021, 09:41:26 AM
Harper has only played 70 minutes in three sub appearances so to some extent it would seem he’s a victim of the circumstances. It doesn’t bode particularly well for him either though.

 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on February 14, 2021, 10:07:10 AM
Blues are a mess they are managed Aitor Karanka who is the Spanish equivalent of Pulis. They are playing defensive attritional football, badly and have a squad that seems to have been assembled with no discernible purpose in mind. Throwing any young player at that situation and expecting a good outcome for player or club is a triumph of hope over expectation.

He has had just over an hour of football whatever is wrong with Birmingham City (plenty) it almost certainly not Harper's fault but to a section of fans it seems it is. This is pretty much my problem with relying heavily on loans for player development a bad loan is worse than no loan at all.

 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBArgo on February 14, 2021, 11:47:46 AM
Out of all the kids we've ever brought through (other than Berahino) I've always held the most hope for Harper. I remember seeing him dominate Bournemouth on his debut in the PL at 16 years old...I don't understand how he's now struggling to get into the Blues squad?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on February 14, 2021, 12:54:27 PM
It's got certain charms but Newport would make many homesick.
Ha ha, it certainly is a unique place, not for the faint hearted
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on February 14, 2021, 06:25:10 PM
I changed trains at Newport once, with half an hour to kill I walked across the road into town, I won't be rushing back in this lifetime.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on February 14, 2021, 06:38:51 PM
Out of all the kids we've ever brought through (other than Berahino) I've always held the most hope for Harper. I remember seeing him dominate Bournemouth on his debut in the PL at 16 years old...I don't understand how he's now struggling to get into the Blues squad?
Remember his debut too...Unfortunately his development stalled due to lack of game times.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 15, 2021, 12:31:08 PM
Palmer won player of the round for the Papa John’s Trophy quarter final. Saved 3 penalties in the shootout after a 1-1 draw against Hull City.

(https://www.efl.com/contentassets/0e531bbe3cb942d4b2c9045ee0a805fb/cv02_alexpalmer_210214.jpg/Small)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on February 15, 2021, 03:24:36 PM
Palmer's out of contract at the end of this season. I don't know whether he was offered a new one before going back out on loan but if not he really should have been. If he's improved as much as reports and clean sheets suggest I'm hoping we're some way down the road to negotiating new and improved terms.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 15, 2021, 03:30:03 PM
Palmer's out of contract at the end of this season. I don't know whether he was offered a new one before going back out on loan but if not he really should have been. If he's improved as much as reports and clean sheets suggest I'm hoping we're some way down the road to negotiating new and improved terms.
he signed a 3 year deal last year didn’t he? Before he went to Lincoln.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on February 15, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
Yes Palmer's contract here expires July 2023
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on February 15, 2021, 03:53:37 PM
I have a Lincoln match pass and he is coming along really well...even the 7 he conceded against Liverpool hasnt phased him...could have been double figures that day..not sure how he would perform behind our back line though but definitely one for the future..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on February 15, 2021, 04:06:50 PM
he signed a 3 year deal last year didn’t he? Before he went to Lincoln.

Fair play I didn't realise he'd signed a new deal before heading to Lincoln. Cheers for that  8) .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on February 15, 2021, 09:00:45 PM
Palmer is number 1 if we find ourselves in championship and johnstone gets sold...

Griffiths also doing well in league 2 think he has about 12 clean sheets also need to get him in league 1 next year
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on February 16, 2021, 09:20:22 PM
Another assist for Azaz tomight for Cheltenham. In the starting line up so must be doing pretty well. They look well set for promotion, which would do both his and Griffiths' confidence the world of good. Both loans have worked out well so far.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: saml30 on February 16, 2021, 10:32:12 PM
Another assist for Azaz tomight for Cheltenham. In the starting line up so must be doing pretty well. They look well set for promotion, which would do both his and Griffiths' confidence the world of good. Both loans have worked out well so far.

Potentially be able to keep them there next season
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Oldbury24 on February 17, 2021, 07:29:54 PM
Potentially be able to keep them there next season

Potential to be a championship level keeper i agree but if SJ goes he may be doing that here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on February 17, 2021, 08:57:04 PM
Field scores tonight as does Austin AGAIN
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on February 17, 2021, 09:11:21 PM
Field scores tonight as does Austin AGAIN
Can't help feeling we will regret letting Sam go. Good luck to the lad anyway.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on February 17, 2021, 09:31:42 PM
Harper MOTM tonight for Blues in the Bham mail
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: NJS on February 19, 2021, 05:47:55 PM
Can't help feeling we will regret letting Sam go. Good luck to the lad anyway.

Field came on for QPR after half-time and "smashed home" the equaliser against Brentford.  QPR's winner was scored by ... you guessed it ... Austin

You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: mig on February 21, 2021, 08:45:08 AM
Harper winning the MOTM vote on Blues twitter after their win yesterday, and a fair few positive comments from their fans.

Think it's clear there is a quality player in there. Consistency is key so will be interesting to see how he does for the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 21, 2021, 08:55:06 AM
The comments on Twitter sound really positive - saw someone refer to him as being the complete midfielder. Just a shame that we’ve wasted two years of his development.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on February 21, 2021, 01:18:41 PM
When Harper comes back in the summer I expect he’s going to want some commitment on playing time to sign a new contract, otherwise we need to sell him.  We need to watch him for the next 20 games very closely.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on March 02, 2021, 08:07:21 PM
Morton on the bench for Lincoln tonight..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on March 02, 2021, 08:36:19 PM
Morton on and scores..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on March 02, 2021, 08:53:23 PM
There's something about him isn't there. It's a real shame he picked up the (relatively) freak injury as he could easily have gone on to have a 15-20 goal season. I hope he picks up where he left of as it would be a nice boost to have another option in the squad next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on March 02, 2021, 09:02:23 PM
Morton’s had a few fairly significant injuries now, so it would be great for him personally (and us) if he could get through the season without anything further.  He’s got 15 games to make himself a genuine option for us next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on March 02, 2021, 09:10:31 PM
Griffiths picked up another clean sheet as Cheltenham went top of league 2. It's a tight league at the moment but if Cheltenham do see it out, it's a no brainer that both Griffiths and Azaz stay there for the league 1 campaign.

I know loans aren't always perfect but if you are getting 2 consistent years at a club and slowly moving up the levels then it is as good as any B team system. Griffiths seems to have the spot nailed down, while Azaz seems to be becoming a key player for them post injury. Never see him getting subbed off after 60 minutes anymore and a few Cheltenham fans/journos on twitter have said he is getting more and more influential.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on March 02, 2021, 09:16:50 PM
An assist for Palmer??? :o
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on March 03, 2021, 01:24:51 PM
An assist for Palmer??? :o
Yes he did! ;D

https://twitter.com/themoderndaygk/status/1367077186994323459 (https://twitter.com/themoderndaygk/status/1367077186994323459)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on March 03, 2021, 10:44:09 PM
Haha great. Thanks for posting the video. What a pass, terrible defending mind.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on March 06, 2021, 09:56:32 PM
The way Harper's loan move is going, he will probably need a bit of time in league 1 next season. Some really poor reviews fr9m Blues fans over recent games.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on March 06, 2021, 11:10:21 PM
The way Harper's loan move is going, he will probably need a bit of time in league 1 next season. Some really poor reviews fr9m Blues fans over recent games.

Another one not quite good enough.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 14, 2021, 03:23:53 PM
Karanka on his way out of Blues. Could impact remainder of Harpers loan.

The BBC line ups have him sitting in front of the back 4 which he is totally unsuited to. Hopefully a more progressive figure takes up the role.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on March 15, 2021, 11:11:30 AM
Josh Griffiths getting called up to the England under 21s feels quite significant.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tommcneill on March 15, 2021, 12:00:43 PM
Josh Griffiths getting called up to the England under 21s feels quite significant.

Was just about to post about this.

Congratulations to him
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 15, 2021, 12:36:53 PM
Josh Griffiths getting called up to the England under 21s feels quite significant.
Fantastic news , well done Josh lad :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on March 21, 2021, 11:23:58 AM
Morton scored again yesterday. The defending is really poor but even with that said, his control and touch to get on goal and get a shot off is very tidy.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on March 21, 2021, 06:57:50 PM
Josh Griffiths getting called up to the England under 21s feels quite significant.
Shame we can't see him play They usually play U21's at Molineux or Villa Park around here If Covid wasn't a Thing I could have gone maybe with my dad to see him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WoysWunderful on March 23, 2021, 12:20:02 PM
One of my co-workers dad is a lincoln fan. He loves callum and reckons he would have got 20 this season without the injury. He thinks he will still manage 10+ goals for the season. Thinks hes top draw and could play for us next season in championship. His movement and vison is a cut above apprently. Ive never seen the bloke play or watched lincoln so i dunno, but sounds good to me!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on March 26, 2021, 10:02:31 PM
Callum Morton has tested positive  for Covid  !
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 27, 2021, 01:42:56 PM
Palmer had a bit of a nightmare for Lincoln against Oxford. Culpable for both Oxford goals and just an error strewn display over all.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on March 27, 2021, 03:06:35 PM
Palmer had a bit of a nightmare for Lincoln against Oxford. Culpable for both Oxford goals and just an error strewn display over all.
Don't agree with that at all. In my opinion, both goals were a result of defensive frailty. Neither were due to Palmer, who made some good saves during the match. Here's some brief highlights for everyone to make their own minds up.

https://www.skysports.com/football/oxford-united-vs-lincoln-city/report/431260
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 27, 2021, 03:10:35 PM
Palmer had a bit of a nightmare for Lincoln against Oxford. Culpable for both Oxford goals and just an error strewn display over all.
Agree with you there, he was poor. I have watched Lincoln a few times and his form appears to have fallen away in the second half of the season. I thought Morgan Rogers showed his quality last night have seen a couple of his games for Lincoln, and think we should be going back to Man City with a loan offer, as they will be looking to send him to the Championship next season. No doubt he can do it at that level in my opinion.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on March 27, 2021, 03:24:25 PM
Basing this purely on those highlights. If Sam Johnstone had made that very early handling hash and palmed those shots into danger areas like Palmer did, a good number of posters would be joining me behind the settee so we could have our kittens at the same time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 27, 2021, 03:40:59 PM
Basing this purely on those highlights. If Sam Johnstone had made that very early handling hash and palmed those shots into danger areas like Palmer did, a good number of posters would be joining me behind the settee so we could have our kittens at the same time.
Watched the whole game mate and his performance had "old" SJ written all over it.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on March 27, 2021, 03:47:21 PM
Palmer will be 25 at the start of next season. You would have expected him not to be out on loan if people within the Albion think he's good enough.

I KNOW people inside the Albion rated Josh Griffiths as the better prospect a year or so ago, dont know whether anything has changed but as he's only 19 I doubt things have changed too much.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 03, 2021, 08:13:42 AM
Mini loan round up.

Rekeem Harper now seems to have dropped down to the bench for Birmingham, featuring as a sub in their important win vs Swansea.

At QPR, Sam Field had what is being described as his best game in an R's shirt next to another ex baggie in Steffan Johanasson while Charlie Austin started but was subbed off in a 3-0 win. Chris Willock scored one of QPR's goals, continuing the evidence that he was under utilised for reasons beyond me last season.

Kenneth Zohore (who is stranded on his favourite tally of 3 goals a season) was a sub for Milwall, decreasing our chances of getting a permanent sale in the summer.

In league 2, Cheltenham won to strengthen their promotion push with another Josh Griffiths clean sheet, but in less optimistic news, Finn Azaz seems to have been a casualty of their recent dip in form as he started on the bench yesterday. If Cheltenham do go up, both players need to go straight back there on loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on April 03, 2021, 08:21:47 AM
Field doing well at QPR. I dont know exactly what arrangement we have with QPR but we should be looking to keep Field, especially if, as expected we lose Yokuslu at the end of the season.

I always said there was a good player there. Teams results are always better when he plays than doesnt percentage wise. There is a reason for that.

Harper, I've always said isnt good enough. Now he cant even get in the Blues team. He needs to be moved on.

A bit disappointing that Azaz has been relegated to the bench for the last couple of games at Cheltenham. Griffiths going from strength to strength. Needs to be in our squad next season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on April 03, 2021, 10:17:56 AM
Got a feeling they have the option to make it permanent.
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Post by: Dudleylad on April 03, 2021, 10:29:33 AM
I work with a QPR fan (must be the only one in Wolverhampton), apparently theres no option to sign but there is an agreement that if we decide to sell at the end of the season they will have first refusal.

So the decision will be down to us rather than the other way around.

I quite like Field and would like to think the club are tracking his performances and ability to put a run of games together with a view to deciding his future at the end of the season.

The same person was saying it will be interesting with Charlie Austin, hes done well for them but apparently QPR are struggling to get him to lower his wage demands, it seems he still views himself as a Premier League player rather than a player whoose age and fitness has reduced his ability to demand an high wage.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: NJS on April 03, 2021, 10:46:39 AM
As I've said before, Field has been messed around enough by this club; some are very disparaging about Field on this forum.  I hope he stays at Loftus Road where he is valued.  Many fans especially at "big" clubs, only regard players who arrive at their clubs on the back of a big fee: the Money Illusion bias.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 03, 2021, 11:00:47 AM
I work with a QPR fan (must be the only one in Wolverhampton), apparently theres no option to sign but there is an agreement that if we decide to sell at the end of the season they will have first refusal.

So the decision will be down to us rather than the other way around.

I quite like Field and would like to think the club are tracking his performances and ability to put a run of games together with a view to deciding his future at the end of the season.

The same person was saying it will be interesting with Charlie Austin, hes done well for them but apparently QPR are struggling to get him to lower his wage demands, it seems he still views himself as a Premier League player rather than a player whoose age and fitness has reduced his ability to demand an high wage.

I’d much rather we have field in our midfield next season than having to stomach watching Jake Livermore

We have mismanaged both Field and Harper and they had the clearest pathways into the first team.

It is no wonder that our academy products would prefer to jump ship rather than stick around.

Kyle Edwards is another wasting away..
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on April 03, 2021, 11:03:03 AM
Another vote for Field over Livermore.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on April 03, 2021, 12:10:27 PM
The unusual case of Sam Field. I know he's had injuries but I really don't understand how he hasn't had more of a shout with us. Criminally underused. Given some of our midfield combinations in recent seasons I'm not wearing that he shouldn't have had more game time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wodenson46 on April 03, 2021, 12:22:28 PM
Always thought Field was worth a place if fit.  Might just have the DF we need already on our books - has got to be worth an extended run to find out if yes or no.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: koren on April 03, 2021, 05:26:37 PM
Field would be a useful player in championship.
But the club would sell him and keep playing Livermore and Sawyers nest season.
That's Albion.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on April 03, 2021, 05:29:48 PM
Field would be a useful player in championship.
But the club would sell him and keep playing Livermore and Sawyers nest season.
That's Albion.

Those two need moving on.

Both of them will know even if we get promoted they wont figure in the PL. Its human nature that they wont have the same hunger as previously however professional they are in their approach.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 03, 2021, 05:32:11 PM
Field isn't a Premier League dcm. Difference between him and YokuÅŸlu is stark. But, he's no worse than the 2 jokers picked week in week out by Slav, in fact him and Sawyers would probably complement each other especially at Championship level.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on April 03, 2021, 05:35:15 PM
Field isn't a Premier League dcm. Difference between him and YokuÅŸlu is stark. But, he's no worse than the 2 jokers picked week in week out by Slav, in fact him and Sawyers would probably complement each other especially at Championship level.

Dont see that. Neither of them have legs.

Field is best at the base of a midfield three ideally protecting the defence.

Sawyers isnt my type of player and I wouldn't play him anywhere in any system.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 03, 2021, 05:42:49 PM
Dont see that. Neither of them have legs.

Field is best at the base of a midfield three ideally protecting the defence.

Sawyers isnt my type of player and I wouldn't play him anywhere in any system.

That's why you don't see it then 😂
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 11, 2021, 02:29:31 AM
It feels like everything has stalled a bit for our loan army, just when we needed them to finish strongly.

At Lincoln, the clean sheets have dried up for Alex Palmer and along with them has gone Lincoln's form. Morton is getting starts which is great, but not really the goals he would need to make a push for our first team next season (injury may have robbed him of that opportunity for this season at least).

At Cheltenham, Griffiths is still getting clean sheets as they look certain now to get promotion, but Finn Azaz has really lost his place in the side just as he seemed to be becoming a key player. Maybe he can get it back in the final few games, but it does make it less likely that they will look to have him back in league 1 next season and at 20 years of age, he isn't really that young anymore (for an attacking midfielder any way).

Kenneth Zohore won't find a home at Milwall next season either. Arguably the most bizzare signing we have ever made is going to need a free transfer at this rate.

Bowyer' s resurgent Blues has no rooms for passengers like Rekeem Harper who has now been relegated to the same role he has had here for the last few years - unused sub. A case study in just how s*** our youth progression is at this club sometimes. So so we just sell him on now to a league 1 side while inserting a big sell on fee clause?

Finally, Charlie Austin may be suspended, but Sam Field started in QPR's latest big win. QPR won't have much money this summer but will certainly want Field back so we might again be looking at sell on fees if we want to make real money.


There was a stage a few months into the season where it was looking really positive for our loanees. Zohore was amongst the goals, Palmer, Griffiths and Azaz were doing well while we had Windsor, Soule and Morton getting goals early on in their spells. Fast forward to the end of the season and with our poor youth team results, it's really hard to feel positive about what we have coming through.

Other than the 2 keepers, there doesn't seem to be anyone we can bring into our first team for next season. A bit demoralising really.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on April 11, 2021, 10:32:12 AM
Field will will be worth a place here, but he probably needs to force the move for the good of his career. He can’t let his support of the club stall his career any longer.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on April 11, 2021, 11:34:12 AM
If Harper's going to be moved onto a League One club with a hefty sell on fee he's going to have to take a hefty cut in wages. Can't see anyone in League One paying his current wedge. We'd probably either need to subsidise part of his wages for the duration of his time with a new club or give him a pay off on the way out.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 11, 2021, 12:36:28 PM
If Harper's going to be moved onto a League One club with a hefty sell on fee he's going to have to take a hefty cut in wages. Can't see anyone in League One paying his current wedge. We'd probably either need to subsidise part of his wages for the duration of his time with a new club or give him a pay off on the way out.

True, but he only has one year left on his contract now. I’d imagine however he will want to hold out for a free (tribunal) transfer.

Just not enough application to go with his obvious talent. Shame, he has a lot of tools, good range of passing, not a slouch and a good finisher. Problem is he only plays 10 minutes each game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on April 11, 2021, 12:55:50 PM
For those players like Palmer, Field and Harper who are at the end of the pure development phase of their careers no more loans, no more kicking the can down the road. Either they are in the squad with a reasonable chance of game time or they go.

If Field isn't committed to joining QPR then I would retain but given his contract expires 2022 we have to give him a new contract and to do that he really needs to be a starter in the Championship for us.

Palmer is 24 contracted to 2023 if he is going to break through at Championship level with a ceiling above that it has to happen next season or the following one. Factor in we have Griffiths coming up as well it is pretty much now or never for Palmer.

Harper the fear is that there is a player here and if he meets the right coach at the right time his career takes off and the club looks pretty stupid for letting him go. He is just about to turn 21 and while it feels a little bit early to write him off and I do think there is a niche for him in the right midfield I just don't see it with us. The loan to Blues was just another misstep in his development which has left a technically able player lacking real definition as what type of player he is and where he fits into a team almost any team.

As for the rest it is a mixed bag. I wouldn't read too much into any of the loan spells for the most part the players are still in the development phase of their career their form will be patchy but even loans that don't look like they have worked will give the player valuable experience. I would assess progress during pre season and make a decision about their futures and that might be another loan but equally a move into the first team squad or out the door. We do need to be braver with our young players. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on April 11, 2021, 01:13:38 PM
True, but he only has one year left on his contract now. I’d imagine however he will want to hold out for a free (tribunal) transfer.

Just not enough application to go with his obvious talent. Shame, he has a lot of tools, good range of passing, not a slouch and a good finisher. Problem is he only plays 10 minutes each game.

Completely forgot he's only got a year left. Doesn't seem like two years have passed since he signed that three year deal. Time has flown. Or just disappeared into nothing.

Interesting interview with Owen Windsor courtesy of the official site. Very rare I look on there since the dog dinner of a 'revamp'. Too much going on with it for my liking.

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/windsor-sunderland-pl2-clash-loans-and-ending-season-strongly
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on April 16, 2021, 01:29:51 PM
Thought I'd have a look at Cedric Kipre and what's going on with him. He was an unused sub in his first three games. He then started three games completing the 90 mins in 2 while going off in the 84th in 1 games. Was then a sub and started the last game where they conceded 4  :o

Out of interest I hadn't actually joined this thinking up but Saido Berahino also plays for the same team, scoring 4 in 24 appearances. He scored in 3 games in a row and hasn't scored since October. Let's leave him there.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on April 16, 2021, 03:05:08 PM
Thought I'd have a look at Cedric Kipre and what's going on with him. He was an unused sub in his first three games. He then started three games completing the 90 mins in 2 while going off in the 84th in 1 games. Was then a sub and started the last game where they conceded 4  :o

Out of interest I hadn't actually joined this thinking up but Saido Berahino also plays for the same team, scoring 4 in 24 appearances. He scored in 3 games in a row and hasn't scored since October. Let's leave him there.

Just looked at Berahino's stats. He hasn't completed a full ninety minutes in the league all season.

He's also played as an attacking midfielder and secondary striker when not featuring as a none scoring forward.

What a mess of a season. Twenty eight in October and out of contract in the summer. We wouldn't would we ....... or would we  :-X ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on April 16, 2021, 03:14:14 PM
Just looked at Berahino's stats. He hasn't completed a full ninety minutes in the league all season.

He's also played as an attacking midfielder and secondary striker when not featuring as a none scoring forward.

What a mess of a season. Twenty eight in October and out of contract in the summer. We wouldn't would we ....... or would we  :-X ?

I sincerely hope not. I just don’t think we would either. Wasted his career but made plenty of money along the way.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 17, 2021, 09:37:09 PM
Quick round up.

Sam Field was dropped to the bench today for QPR’s win vs Middlesbrough although he did get subbed on. A quick Twitter search gave the impression fans were calling for his introduction to sure up the midfield as the game wore on and it still seems the commentary is quite positive from fans, but it is a telling sign that a mid table championship team see him as an option rather than a starter. Certainly time to set him free this summer.

Alex Palmer picked up yet another clean sheet for Lincoln City, which paired with his performance last week (which appears to have been decent) will hopefully mean a return to form after a bit of a rough patch. Callum Morton played 90 minutes, seemingly as a lone forward. From what I’ve read he hit the bar but also missed a decent chance in a lively performance. He apparently told the express and star mid week that while a lot depends on how he does in the final few weeks of the season and in the play offs, he would prefer another loan move next summer rather than being an unused squad player.

Kenneth Zohore might have an injury as he was out of Milwall’s squad today while I think Austin is still suspended.

In league 2 last night, Cheltenham suffered a 1-0 loss with Griffiths in goal. Finn Azaz once again came off the bench.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 20, 2021, 09:00:00 PM
Alex Palmer and Josh Griffiths clean sheets klaxon.

I've lost count now- league 1 and league 2 goalkeepers of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on April 20, 2021, 09:14:43 PM
Alex Palmer and Josh Griffiths clean sheets klaxon.

I've lost count now- league 1 and league 2 goalkeepers of the season.

Make that 17 for palmer and 20 for Griffiths. Cheltenham megsoning their way out of league 2
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on April 20, 2021, 10:53:08 PM
Make that 17 for palmer and 20 for Griffiths. Cheltenham megsoning their way out of league 2
Great new word  ;D
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on April 21, 2021, 12:49:33 AM
Great new word  ;D

Nothing new about that word sure it came about in 2001... haha
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on April 24, 2021, 07:02:39 PM
Great new word  ;D

Still megsoning. Cheltenham win 1-0 again
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 24, 2021, 08:23:39 PM
Josh Griffiths surely had to be the second WBA keeper in 2 years to be named league 2 goalkeeper of the year. Seems to get clean sheets in 50% of his games.

Nice to see Finn Azaz get his first start for a few games, albeit he was subbed off.

Over at Lincoln, it’s another loss for Appleton, with Palmer conceding 2. Morton once again played the full 90 but must be playing more for the team as he isn’t being selected for his goals (or current lack of).

Sam Field was subbed on for QPR, as was Zohore for Milwall, which is better than Harper he was unused at Blues.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 27, 2021, 09:04:28 PM
Palmer gets another clean sheet for Lincoln, meaning he should now be back in the top 5 keepers in the country for clean sheets. Morton once again went goalless in a 1-0 win.

Griffiths was unable to extend his lead at the top of that particular table, but Cheltenham were promoted tonight, with Finn Azaz also starting. I would look at getting both loaned back there for next season if we can get a deal that suits (ie, getting Griffiths tied down to another deal).
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on April 30, 2021, 08:57:44 AM
A shame to see that neither Josh Griffiths nor Alex Palmer made their respective league's team of the season, despite both being in the top 5 keepers in the country for clean sheets.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on April 30, 2021, 09:21:28 AM
A shame to see that neither Josh Griffiths nor Alex Palmer made their respective league's team of the season, despite both being in the top 5 keepers in the country for clean sheets.
Griffiths is interesting as he is the one with the highest clean sheets (in less games than Hladky too, though he’s conceded one more goal). Palmer isn’t the best ranked GK in League One so that ones not as surprising. Burge kept more Clean sheets in less games and with less goals conceded.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on June 24, 2021, 11:31:21 AM
Gloucester local media linking Morton with a loan move to Cheltenham
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on June 24, 2021, 06:45:03 PM
Gloucester local media linking Morton with a loan move to Cheltenham

He needs a whole season playing he keeps getting injuries. So wherever he is going to play 46 games is ideal
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on July 21, 2021, 11:03:35 AM
We should soon find out where Callum Morton is going out on loan. Local Cheltenham t9wn reporter states they have lost out in the race to another league 1 side.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 22, 2021, 11:14:22 PM
We should soon find out where Callum Morton is going out on loan. Local Cheltenham t9wn reporter states they have lost out in the race to another league 1 side.

Sheff Wed were linked some weeks ago - wonder whether we’re doing Moore a favour
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: mig on July 24, 2021, 12:49:52 PM
Griffiths has agreed to join Lincoln, according to Talksport's Alex Crook. Hopefully a good move for him and us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on July 24, 2021, 08:19:58 PM
Griffiths to Lincoln has now been confirmed by the club.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 24, 2021, 09:05:32 PM
Griffiths to Lincoln has now been confirmed by the club.

Good move. Keeps our partnership with Lincoln alive. Wonder if Morton or Windsor will end up out there also?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 24, 2021, 09:10:42 PM
Griffiths to Lincoln has now been confirmed by the club.

Good move that. Hopefully he continues to progress
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 27, 2021, 10:47:10 AM
Callum Morton has joined League One team Fleetwood Town. Good luck to him and hope he’s better with injuries than last year.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on July 27, 2021, 01:00:26 PM
All of the very best Callum.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on July 27, 2021, 04:19:46 PM
Good luck lad . I was hoping to see you get opportunities here this season, but I suspect that lack of appearances due to injuries last season, means you have to go again.
Just keep giving your all , as you always do, and your chance will come.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on September 01, 2021, 09:16:50 AM
49 minute hat trick for Callum last night
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on September 01, 2021, 12:14:42 PM
49 minute hat trick for Callum last night
Great news, well done Callum. I expect there will be no January recall option, mistake if so.
As the priority of the Manager with regards to player's ability seems to be running for 90 minutes, then he has overlooked one who will run forever.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 01, 2021, 12:26:59 PM
Great news, well done Callum. I expect there will be no January recall option, mistake if so.
As the priority of the Manager with regards to player's ability seems to be running for 90 minutes, then he has overlooked one who will run forever.
I may be wrong, but didn’t Callum go on loan before Val got here?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on September 01, 2021, 12:37:58 PM
I may be wrong, but didn’t Callum go on loan before Val got here?
Val appointed 24th June, Callum loan announced 21st July.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on September 01, 2021, 12:42:14 PM
I saw Callum play first couple of games this season, didnt impress. To be fair neither did Fleetwood and they shoved him out to left forward.

Not quite sure what to make of him, was highly promising, gained obstructive injuries and has returned with more of a whimper than a bang.

Watching brief for now.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on September 01, 2021, 01:00:42 PM
I saw Callum play first couple of games this season, didnt impress. To be fair neither did Fleetwood and they shoved him out to left forward.

Not quite sure what to make of him, was highly promising, gained obstructive injuries and has returned with more of a whimper than a bang.

Watching brief for now.

I watched a couple of games for him with Northampton when they were on TV which seems like the last time he had a real run of injury free games, including the play off games where he was the best player.

He was full of effort and enthusiasm but the quality was distinctly league two. I'd be surprised if he makes it at a championship club be honest.  I think we are looking at a potentially decent league one player but nothing more. From what ive seen of Owen Windsor he looked more naturally talented but he seems to have stalled a lot as well.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on September 01, 2021, 06:07:15 PM
I haven't seen Windsor play but he had the strangely swift return from Newport after signing on loan last January....I may be wrong but I'm not aware of any significant injury causing that.
Morton obviously needs a better run of luck on the injury front but I was reasonably impressed with him in the Northampton play off games.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 12, 2021, 09:07:33 AM
Morton scored again yesterday
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on September 22, 2021, 07:55:23 AM
Can't see it having been mentioned, but Callum Morton scored vs Sunderland on Saturday, his third game on the trot and fifth goal this season.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: colinmax on September 23, 2021, 06:45:26 AM
Harvey Barnes had a very successful spell with us so Leicester called him back in January window.
We should have that facility for Callum Morton but I think we have let him go on loan for season without recall facility.If this is so we have not been  very professional.Does any one know  the details of his loan?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on September 23, 2021, 08:14:14 AM
Harvey Barnes had a very successful spell with us so Leicester called him back in January window.
We should have that facility for Callum Morton but I think we have let him go on loan for season without recall facility.If this is so we have not been  very professional.Does any one know  the details of his loan?

According to Joe Masi we almost certainly will have a recall option on him. If you listen to the latest Baggies Broadcast podcast it's on there.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 12, 2021, 09:03:43 PM
Toby King has gone out on loan to Billericay Town.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 22, 2021, 02:29:46 PM
Ted Cann has gone on loan to Telford Town (Joining Saul Shotton). Didn’t see an announcement but he went last Friday.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 31, 2021, 12:32:52 PM
Callum Morton is potentially ending his loan at Fleetwood and moving to Peterborough instead, will be interesting how he gets on in the Championship.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gavinrussell on January 11, 2022, 08:48:31 PM
Griffiths playing well tonight at Sunderland. Lincoln 1 up at Half Time.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 29, 2022, 04:43:04 PM
Alex Palmer is expected to join Luton Town on loan, according to Alex Crook.
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Post by: SmethDan on January 30, 2022, 05:10:12 PM
Highly unlikely Sam Johnstone's going anywhere then, unless we get very busy very quickly.
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Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2022, 05:13:01 PM
Newcastle and Saints were his 2 most likely i believe and some Twitter journos saying Newcastle are pushing for Henderson from Man Utd so leaves Saints maybe?
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Post by: AlbionFan on January 30, 2022, 05:14:54 PM
Newcastle and Saints were his 2 most likely i believe and some Twitter journos saying Newcastle are pushing for Henderson from Man Utd so leaves Saints maybe?

Read earlier, that Tottenham, may make a late bid. 🤞
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 30, 2022, 05:17:39 PM
Read earlier, that Tottenham, may make a late bid. 🤞

Really? I had no idea, might be worth watching deadline day tommorow if i get bored then!
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Post by: AlbionFan on January 30, 2022, 06:48:41 PM
Really? I had no idea, might be worth watching deadline day tommorow if i get bored then!

https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/tottenham-transfer-rumours/tottenham-hotspur-west-brom-the-mirror-antonio-conte-sam-johnstone-update-latest-thfc-transfer-news/
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KYA on March 05, 2022, 12:17:39 PM
Alex Palmer joins Luton in emergency loan hope he does well and gets himself in contention for our first team.
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Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 05, 2022, 12:45:32 PM
Also today, Mo Faal has joined Hereford United on loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: AlbionFan on March 05, 2022, 07:31:59 PM
Alex played made his first appearance for Luton today but, unfortunately, he was on the wrong end of the score line as they lost 2-1 to Middlesbrough.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 07, 2022, 11:39:24 AM
Sounds like Griffiths might have a long term injury? Ankle problems and a concussion due to a collision during their game against Sheffield Wednesday. Will miss the next match against Ipswich and potentially longer.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Sted1990 on March 09, 2022, 08:53:25 PM
We’re an absolute shambles of a football club, why would we loan Luton our keeper who then keeps a clean sheet which puts us further from the play offs. Who is making these decisions?! Luton are currently a direct rival and we made them stronger.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Lionheart on March 10, 2022, 07:06:44 AM
We’re an absolute shambles of a football club, why would we loan Luton our keeper who then keeps a clean sheet which puts us further from the play offs. Who is making these decisions?! Luton are currently a direct rival and we made them stronger.
To make matters worse he also got an assist 😣
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 10, 2022, 08:19:33 AM
We’re an absolute shambles of a football club, why would we loan Luton our keeper who then keeps a clean sheet which puts us further from the play offs. Who is making these decisions?! Luton are currently a direct rival and we made them stronger.

He was our 3rd choice keeper, I don't suppose many people would have thought that would strengthen a rival.
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Post by: Sted1990 on March 11, 2022, 08:09:58 AM
He was our 3rd choice keeper, I don't suppose many people would have thought that would strengthen a rival.

There was still 0 reasons to help them for 7 days and look at the result, it’s backfired with a clean sheet and assist for 3 points.
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Post by: Hull Baggie on March 11, 2022, 08:42:38 AM
There was still 0 reasons to help them for 7 days and look at the result, it’s backfired with a clean sheet and assist for 3 points.

 The reason to help them is that if the shoe had been on the other foot we'd have wanted help from another Championship club.

 The result could (and most probably would , going on form) have been the same regardless of where they got the keeper from.
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Post by: KYA on March 11, 2022, 10:12:54 AM
There was still 0 reasons to help them for 7 days and look at the result, it’s backfired with a clean sheet and assist for 3 points.
I hope the lad does well the rest of his time at Luton he  is still our player and if he doesn't look out of place in the championship he could well be our No1 goalie next season saving us having to buy a keeper whcih given our finances would be good news.
I wouldn't consider the play-offs unless we have an amazing run of results.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on March 11, 2022, 11:09:28 AM
Well whatever happens I believe he's out of contract at the end of next season. If so and if we have designs on keeping him then negotiations on a new contract should be quite a way down the line by now (he says).
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: skyclad99 on March 11, 2022, 11:52:50 AM
We’re an absolute shambles of a football club, why would we loan Luton our keeper who then keeps a clean sheet which puts us further from the play offs. Who is making these decisions?! Luton are currently a direct rival and we made them stronger.

Really struggling with that sentence, mainly because it is correct.........
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: NJS on March 11, 2022, 12:31:32 PM
He was our 3rd choice keeper, I don't suppose many people would have thought that would strengthen a rival.

Really struggling with that sentence, mainly because it is correct.........

Yes Luton spends far less money than us and yet is doing much better.  Management structure is interesting.

https://www.theparliamentaryreview.co.uk/news/owners-of-english-football-league-clubs-can-look-to-luton-town-blueprint-for-inspiration


Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 18, 2022, 04:09:09 PM
Ted Cann yesterday joined Yeovil Town in the National League on a 1 month deal, good luck to him!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on August 13, 2022, 05:16:13 PM
Three consecutive clean sheets for Josh Griffiths at Portsmouth. No idea how he’s playing but promising start.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 13, 2022, 05:20:31 PM
I think it's one of those where stats don't tell you everything.

Was having a look this afternoon, several comments this week of "still not sold on Griffiths". Very early days though and all he can do is keep the clean sheets coming.

On the other hand, Cheltenham are shipping goals and yet Caleb Taylor is getting rave reviews early on.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on August 13, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Three consecutive clean sheets for Josh Griffiths at Portsmouth. No idea how he’s playing but promising start.

True but he let in 3 on his debut
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 05:27:09 PM
I think it's one of those where stats don't tell you everything.

Was having a look this afternoon, several comments this week of "still not sold on Griffiths". Very early days though and all he can do is keep the clean sheets coming.

On the other hand, Cheltenham are shipping goals and yet Caleb Taylor is getting rave reviews early on.

Taylor plays well beyond his years for me.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 13, 2022, 05:32:19 PM
True but he let in 3 on his debut
of which I don’t think there was a huge amount he could do with 2 of them.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on August 13, 2022, 05:36:57 PM
Is Finn Azaz still on our books I think it is Cheltenham he is playing for if he is on loan. I know he scored on the opening day. Can't remember if he scored in the 2nd game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 05:38:10 PM
Is Finn Azaz still on our books I think it is Cheltenham he is playing for if he is on loan. I know he scored on the opening day. Can't remember if he scored in the 2nd game.

He's signed ot the Vile
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on August 13, 2022, 05:48:01 PM
I think it's one of those where stats don't tell you everything.

Was having a look this afternoon, several comments this week of "still not sold on Griffiths". Very early days though and all he can do is keep the clean sheets coming.

On the other hand, Cheltenham are shipping goals and yet Caleb Taylor is getting rave reviews early on.

Fortunately Taylor didn’t play in the 7-0 defeat. Pleasing to hear he’s getting praised though.

Interesting feedback on Griffith although as you say, all he can do is keep clean sheets. 20 is still very young for a keeper.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on August 13, 2022, 05:48:44 PM
He's signed ot the Vile
Of Course he has like Louis Barry, based on Cleary playing in the Cup, Azaz could have possibly to made an appearance. Why do we sell kids to the Vile.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2022, 05:50:24 PM
Of Course he has like Louis Barry, based on Cleary playing in the Cup, Azaz could have possibly to made an appearance. Why do we sell kids to the Vile.

I don't think we sell many. They choose to go.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on August 13, 2022, 05:51:02 PM
Finn Azaz was on loan at Newport last season and got rave reviews, I believe he is on loan at Plymouth this season
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on August 13, 2022, 05:54:16 PM
Finn Azaz was on loan at Newport last season and got rave reviews, I believe he is on loan at Plymouth this season

He is, scored today I think
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on August 13, 2022, 07:06:05 PM
of which I don’t think there was a huge amount he could do with 2 of them.

Oh I agree. Point being don't read too much into stats
Ben Foster has been relegated 5 times in his career but we know what a  top keeper he is :)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 17, 2022, 01:27:16 PM
From last nights games, some outstanding reviews on social media for Caleb Taylor at Cheltenham and Josh Griffiths at Pompey.

Little info on Tulloch at Rochdale - he always seems to be taken off while other members of the front 3 stay in so it's looking like a long shot for him now if he can't impress in league 2 at his age.

Also less good - Quevin Castro didn't get on for Burton for the 2nd game on the trot (in the other dugout, neither did Kyle Edwards for Ipswich while Rekeem Harper is nowhere to be seen).
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 17, 2022, 01:29:44 PM
Of all our young players Caleb Taylor impressed me the most. Can't remember if we have a Jan recall IF we needed it.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 17, 2022, 07:49:36 PM
From last nights games, some outstanding reviews on social media for Caleb Taylor at Cheltenham and Josh Griffiths at Pompey.

Little info on Tulloch at Rochdale - he always seems to be taken off while other members of the front 3 stay in so it's looking like a long shot for him now if he can't impress in league 2 at his age.

Also less good - Quevin Castro didn't get on for Burton for the 2nd game on the trot (in the other dugout, neither did Kyle Edwards for Ipswich while Rekeem Harper is nowhere to be seen).

Edwards is coming back from a serious injury, Harper however not good news, since he left us was on loan Crewe last season and in the Carabao Cup a few weeks ago passed the ball across his own area for Colchester striker to nip and score.

As for Quevin I think a move to Burton is what he needs to bring him down to earth a bit, always seems to have a touch of arrogance which can be a good thing when channeled the right way but not sure it is given his comments when he joined about us being a stepping stone.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionfan1983 on August 18, 2022, 08:22:07 AM
Of Course he has like Louis Barry, based on Cleary playing in the Cup, Azaz could have possibly to made an appearance. Why do we sell kids to the Vile.

We dont. Villa come in with a better package when they are out of contract.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: JMullen95 on August 18, 2022, 10:10:51 AM
Griffiths, the best goalkeeper at the club, should’ve never gone out on loan. He should’ve been our number 1 from the start of this season. One of the only players in the club with big potential re-sale value, and that’s the only way we’ll get out of the massive mess we’re in, similar to when Norwich sold Maddison and bought a whole new team with the money.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tambag on August 18, 2022, 10:17:03 AM
Griffiths, the best goalkeeper at the club, should’ve never gone out on loan. He should’ve been our number 1 from the start of this season. One of the only players in the club with big potential re-sale value, and that’s the only way we’ll get out of the massive mess we’re in, similar to when Norwich sold Maddison and bought a whole new team with the money.

Problem we have is any money coming in our owner loans it out.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on September 01, 2022, 09:04:59 PM
Tom Fellows has joined Crawley on loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 16, 2022, 12:43:50 PM
Josh Griffiths selected for the England u21 squad
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on September 16, 2022, 12:46:09 PM
Josh Griffiths selected for the England u21 squad

Good for him! Meanwhile we're conceding at the rate of knots. Nice for him to stay in a positive environment while developing i guess and this will only boost him more.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 30, 2022, 02:21:41 PM
Both Caleb Taylor (Cheltenham) and Tom Fellows (Crawley) have won local Player of the Month awards for September.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on September 30, 2022, 02:24:39 PM
Both Caleb Taylor (Cheltenham) and Tom Fellows (Crawley) have won local Player of the Month awards for September.

Good to read, well done lads  8) .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: NJS on September 30, 2022, 02:36:47 PM
Stay where you are for the moment lads, you'll get no development help at the Hawthorns.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 02, 2022, 04:31:29 PM
Modou Faal has returned from his loan at Tamworth and now has gone to AFC Fylde for another month loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BigCyrille1975 on December 03, 2022, 03:29:08 PM
Modou Faal has returned from his loan at Tamworth and now has gone to AFC Fylde for another month loan.

Scored 2 off the bench in a 2-1 away win at Gloucester today!
Also, AFC Fylde are managed by Adam Murray, who was assistant manager here under Val.
Might be worth sending a few more U-23s up there on short loans, give them a taste of league football.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: CL3MO on December 04, 2022, 02:19:26 PM
Josh Griffiths making some very good stops for Pompey on TV.

Received some stick - apparently - at he start of the season but he's looked assured in this game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KingKoren on January 15, 2023, 12:38:37 PM
Caleb Taylor scored his first career goal yesterday, got an assist too.

He turned 20 the other day, being a centre back and doing well in league 1 already, you'd have to say he has a lot of potential. I've got high hopes for him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 17, 2023, 06:15:14 PM
Zac Ashworth has gone to Burton Albion for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 17, 2023, 11:02:05 PM
Zac Ashworth has gone to Burton Albion for the rest of the season.

A decent move, although the fact it has happened so soon after his challenging Chesterfield outing is maybe telling.

It should allow Ashworth to hopefully get some meaningful first team minutes at league 1 level, even if it is at a struggling Burton side. I hope they are signing a few more so he has a solid supporting cast for the second half of the season.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 17, 2023, 11:28:36 PM
Caleb Taylor scored his first career goal yesterday, got an assist too.

He turned 20 the other day, being a centre back and doing well in league 1 already, you'd have to say he has a lot of potential. I've got high hopes for him.

Awarded Man of the match as well from what I could see. Cheltenham fans still seem very happy with him. Some talk that he has had a couple of off games of late but at 19 (as he was), in that position and in a struggling team I sort of expect that.

What we do with him next is the difficult one. Do we throw him into the first team too early or do we loan him to a top league 1 club instead. Preference would be for another loan move, regardless of our league status.

Good also to see Tom Fellows continues to start at Crawley, having nailed down a place there. It's league 2 and I've no great hopes for him making our first team, but if he can forge a career in the football league, earning 40 grand a year then it's another small success for the academy to showcase to the next generation.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: baggiebof on January 18, 2023, 05:22:53 AM

What we do with him next is the difficult one. Do we throw him into the first team too early or do we loan him to a top league 1 club instead. Preference would be for another loan move, regardless of our league status.


I think Bartley's contract renewal makes the decision for us; he goes out on loan again for me. With O'Shea, Bartley and Ajayi signed up for mext year for sure, he'd likely be 4th choice at best which is not that beneficial really.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: WBA.R.K on February 07, 2023, 03:13:55 PM
Ted Cann has joined Leamington FC on a months loan after their keeper got injured in a recent game.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on February 07, 2023, 06:21:32 PM
Ted Cann has joined Leamington FC on a months loan after their keeper got injured in a recent game.

Good for Ted Cann. He's always looked a very decent keeper in the highlights and occasional games I've seen him play in.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on February 07, 2023, 10:19:42 PM
Martin Kelly was Sky's man of the match last night, before getting injured and looking out for the long term.

Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on February 07, 2023, 10:40:03 PM
Martin Kelly was Sky's man of the match last night, before getting injured and looking out for the long term.

I genuinely wish him well with his recovery. That said I do question the wisdom of a two year contract given his age and injury record. Reiterate that I mean him well and I'm most definitely not posting with any intentional disrespect to him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 08, 2023, 08:53:15 PM
Zak Ashworth scores for Bolton in the league cup. He might develop into a decent goalscoring wing back. Hope we haven't written him off too soon.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 08, 2023, 09:10:16 PM
Zak Ashworth scores for Bolton in the league cup. He might develop into a decent goalscoring wing back. Hope we haven't written him off too soon.

You can bet there's a good chance we have.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: graka on August 08, 2023, 09:18:19 PM
Whenever i saw him play always looked one of our most useful kids, composed and a cracking left peg
Had a bit of a mare at chesterfield but so did many others, bombed out since
Would have been nice to see him in a strong line up not a patched up cup team like some of the other young uns
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 08, 2023, 09:19:07 PM
Whenever i saw him play always looked one of our most useful kids, composed and a cracking left peg
Had a bit of a mare at chesterfield but so did many others, bombed out since
Would have been nice to see him in a strong line up not a patched up cup team like some of the other young uns

Only the experienced pros can make mistakes here and have a future with us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on August 09, 2023, 10:59:49 AM
Only the experienced pros can make mistakes here and have a future with us.

I bet you're just dying to stencil spray that on the dressing room wall at the academy along with ' because Carlos doesn't like you anyway so you might as well bog off down the Villa'  ;D .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 09, 2023, 11:15:44 AM
I bet you're just dying to stencil spray that on the dressing room wall at the academy along with ' because Carlos doesn't like you anyway so you might as well bog off down the Villa'  ;D .

Already done it Dan but don't tell anyone
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 11, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
Mo Faal has joined Doncaster on loan for the season
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OhBilics on August 11, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
Is Faal the only one (so far) to have gone out on loan?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tambag on August 11, 2023, 01:30:57 PM
Is Faal the only one (so far) to have gone out on loan?

U23 wise Ashworth has gone to Bolton
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OhBilics on August 11, 2023, 03:39:57 PM
U23 wise Ashworth has gone to Bolton
Oh! Thanks. I thought that was a permanent move.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tambag on August 11, 2023, 03:58:50 PM
Oh! Thanks. I thought that was a permanent move.

On-loan with a chnace for Bolton to make it permanent.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: DevonInStripes on August 11, 2023, 07:59:44 PM
Another striker gone with no replacement incoming.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 11, 2023, 08:03:58 PM
Another striker gone with no replacement incoming.


Faal was never going to be near the first team this season, so it changes nothing. This is a perfect loan, a chance for him to try to develop in league 2 and show us he has a future here.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on August 13, 2023, 07:22:35 AM
I always like a look on twitter to see what fans are saying about our on loan players. So, a quick round up.

Karlan Grant - already universally negative from Cardiff fans,  many calling for him to be dropped already, seems he has put in some really poor performances so far. One fan commented this was our revenge for Zohore.

Mo Faal - Doncaster were thumped at Newport, with Faal coming off the bench. Both Donny's manager McCann and fans have however commented he was the one positive today. McCann believes he should have brought Faal on earlier, while fans are calling him to start the next game.

Zak Ashworth - Still waiting for his first league start, he did notch midweek in the cup though.

While not out on loan, i've included him anyway - David Button - For a club their size, Reading have a poor online presence. Anyway, early reviews suggest he made a shaky start, he was lobbed despite being almost on his line and one fan commented it was the David Button they were warned they would get.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on August 13, 2023, 09:40:27 AM
Saw the goal Button conceded, it was a deflected shot which is harsh to blame him for. They did say he usually took 2 attempts to fully control a shot etc with his hands though
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: TheBaggieMan on August 13, 2023, 10:11:50 AM
Good and interesting post on our ‘loans out’  Baggies.
I often fear we may be shooting ourselves in the foot with loaning out players given the poor strength of our squad and it it encouraging to see that the players you have mentioned have not exactly set the world on fire.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 14, 2023, 12:40:48 PM
GK Brad Foster (don’t think he’s related to Ben) has joined Rushall Olympic.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on September 11, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
Mo Faal scores his first ever league goal. Notched the Doncaster Rovers goal in a 2-1 defeat at Wrexham.
Well done young man.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on October 05, 2023, 11:59:31 AM
Brad Foster (no relation) has joined Alvechurch on a 28 day loan. Odd, I though they stopped these short loans?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: tambag on October 06, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
Brad Foster (no relation) has joined Alvechurch on a 28 day loan. Odd, I though they stopped these short loans?

Non-league clubs have a different set of rules.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 14, 2023, 04:47:35 PM
Mo Faal has just been subbed off for Doncaster "to a standing ovation" from the Donny fans. Bagged himself a goal.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: graka on October 14, 2023, 06:37:04 PM
Mo Faal has just been subbed off for Doncaster "to a standing ovation" from the Donny fans. Bagged himself a goal.
I’ve always liked the look of Faal, I think he has a chance unlike Malcolm and Tulloch who will end up in league 2/1 which isn’t bad
I’m hoping Faal and cleary will be championship ready for next season it’s a pity cleary got this bad injury
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 14, 2023, 07:57:42 PM
I watched Faal last week against Stockport , he looked bloody huge compared to them ;D
Didnt play too well but pleased he seems to making a good spell of his loan.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on October 15, 2023, 07:07:41 AM
I think reviews of his spell so far are very mixed. I get the feeling he is a bit of a Somen Tchoyi, some fans like him because he outs himself about, others think he is one of the worst footballers they have. I can't see him being a Championship level striker next season but if he could get himself a few goals this season then he might have some limited transfer fee value.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on October 20, 2023, 10:30:11 PM
Another for Faal tonight. Big strapping lad for sure.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on October 21, 2023, 07:15:06 PM
Another for Faal tonight. Big strapping lad for sure.

Can we call him back?! Loan is probably great for him mind!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on October 21, 2023, 07:19:01 PM
Can we call him back?! Loan is probably great for him mind!

Think by time we could call him back we will have everyone else back and he wouldn't get chance here then
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Atomic on October 22, 2023, 10:00:00 AM
People re Faal. If you haven't seen his goal on Friday take a look. The defender made a right mess of a goalkeeper's punt up the pitch, I'd have scored it.

TGH with an assist and an impressive 90 min performance for Bristol City v Coventry.  ::)
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on October 22, 2023, 01:03:46 PM
People re Faal. If you haven't seen his goal on Friday take a look. The defender made a right mess of a goalkeeper's punt up the pitch, I'd have scored it.

TGH with an assist and an impressive 90 min performance for Bristol City v Coventry.  ::)
Bit harsh on Mo , thats some finish for a novice .
Ingram scored as well Yesterday for Salford.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: colinmax on October 22, 2023, 03:45:44 PM
 I agree it was a superb goal
 He had to win the ball and it became a one on one
    a)They get missed at all levels including the Premiership
     b)He scored
      c)It was a well controlled lob/chip and MOD would have been drueling over it if it had been Ronaldo or Messi
 Ingram took his goal well and i would like to know if we have a recall option
 and talking of loan players we should look at Draper on loan at Walsall.Of course he might not be good enough but over the years we have missed Phil Parkes Alan Clarke Buckley Henry etc at Walsall.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on October 23, 2023, 12:54:20 PM
Ingram scored his first professional goal for Salford at the weekend and got man off the match. Really good finish.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Sted1990 on October 23, 2023, 06:50:47 PM
Recall Faal and give him minutes at the end of games.

Sunderland & various other clubs are giving their youngsters a chance, why not us. Look at Fellows who dint pull up trees with Crawley and has looked decent in cameos.

We can then send him back in Jan once our injuries have eased.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Adder on October 23, 2023, 07:36:06 PM
Recall Faal and give him minutes at the end of games.

Sunderland & various other clubs are giving their youngsters a chance, why not us. Look at Fellows who dint pull up trees with Crawley and has looked decent in cameos.

We can then send him back in Jan once our injuries have eased.
I don't think loans work that way. If there is a recall option it's likely to be in January not any random time that suits us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on November 04, 2023, 05:26:45 PM
Faal scored again for Doncaster in the cup.  Saw earlier in the week their manager claiming he will be some player in 2-3 years. Could well be in our squad next season.

TGH Bristol city’s best player again according to twitter.  City fans amazed we loaned him out. Sadly it seems almost certain city will take his option.

Ingram played the full match for Salford against a better Peterborough side. Looks like he’s been playing right mid too rather than right back. Not sure what his contract situation but I think he might be out next summer. Would be wise to tie him down for a couple of years.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on November 07, 2023, 07:41:46 PM
Faal scored again tonight after 18 minutes, lets hope he scores again in the next remaining 70 minutes.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on November 07, 2023, 09:58:30 PM
Faal scored again tonight after 18 minutes, lets hope he scores again in the next remaining 70 minutes.

Seems to be finding his feet quite literally. I saw him described as an awful footballer a few weeks ago but now I’ve seen a fan call him silky. The confidence that playing against men in the professional game breeds!

In an ideal world Both Taylor and Fellows would be out getting more football
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 11, 2023, 06:03:44 PM
Youngster Layton Love has joined Brackley Town on loan until January

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/layton-love-agrees-brackley-town-loan-move
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on November 25, 2023, 04:21:14 PM
TGH scores a screamer for Bristol today apparently
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Blowee on November 25, 2023, 05:00:51 PM
Grant just got a late goal for Cardiff.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on November 25, 2023, 05:01:48 PM
Could do with Grant getting a few more to shift him on
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: lewisant on November 25, 2023, 05:11:01 PM
Mo Faal also scored again. I had a check, he only has 5. Felt like his name was coming up much more often.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on November 25, 2023, 05:11:59 PM
Mo Faal also scored again. I had a check, he only has 5. Felt like his name was coming up much more often.

Just had a quick look, 6 goals in 21 appearances across all competitions
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on November 25, 2023, 05:27:51 PM
Just saw TGH goal and it was a beauty, curled into top far corner.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: graka on November 29, 2023, 09:20:17 AM
Faal scored a nice header last night seems to be progressing nicely. I think him and cleary need another loan next season maybe at league one level
Malcolm,Ashworth and Tulloch are struggling to even make the bench at their respective clubs currently so depending on contract situations I can’t see a future for any of them with us
Andrews wasn’t involved with Grimsby last not sure if he is injured but he has been starting for them
Ingram also missing for Salford but again he may be injured he has been doing well there apparently
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on December 01, 2023, 08:30:04 PM
If Faal plays tomorrow away at Peterborough in the FA Cup its a really good test of another level up , most likely up against the highly rated Ronnie Edwards.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on December 01, 2023, 09:14:11 PM
TGH gets Bristol City player of the month
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Dexy on December 02, 2023, 04:36:35 PM
If Faal plays tomorrow away at Peterborough in the FA Cup its a really good test of another level up , most likely up against the highly rated Ronnie Edwards.
Plays and scores again this time against a Div 1 side , well done Mo.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: timdon on December 02, 2023, 05:49:28 PM
TGH gets Bristol City player of the month
This is one sale that I think we will live to regret. Hope we have inserted a sell on clause at least.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on December 02, 2023, 08:02:00 PM
This is one sale that I think we will live to regret. Hope we have inserted a sell on clause at least.

I think we have done ourselves right over. 1.3m fee should never have been agreed too. Bristol City fans are laughing their heads off at that fee.

He's not going to get a chance here, i accept that but 1.3m was always far too low. Should have been a straight loan and no right to buy too at least get a higher fee from elsewhere.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on December 02, 2023, 08:07:36 PM
Faal got another today for Donny
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on December 26, 2023, 07:35:21 PM
Grant scored a screamer today for Cardiff. 2 in 2 but i think that's only 4 goals and 3 assists in 24 so far.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: GrumpyBaggie on December 26, 2023, 09:58:58 PM
Faal hasn't scored for a while, perhaps because he has been an unused sub for a couple of games. 
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on December 26, 2023, 10:17:13 PM
Grant scored a screamer today for Cardiff. 2 in 2 but i think that's only 4 goals and 3 assists in 24 so far.

Even if he hit 18 again Cardiff couldn't pay a third of what we paid for him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on December 26, 2023, 10:29:35 PM
Even if he hit 18 again Cardiff couldn't pay a third of what we paid for him.

True but we need to get as much as we can for him. Otherwise he will be sat here getting no game time under CC costing us a small fortune for nothing

We can only.gdt what we get offered for him.  No chance of getting our money back or anywhere near it
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on January 02, 2024, 01:02:29 PM
Jovan Malcolm has returned from Cheltenham Town in League One. Straight into the team Vs Aldershot?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Sted1990 on January 02, 2024, 01:21:48 PM
Jovan Malcolm has returned from Cheltenham Town in League One. Straight into the team Vs Aldershot?

then he'd be stuck with us for the season due to the 2 club rule
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: MarkW on January 02, 2024, 01:50:34 PM
then he'd be stuck with us for the season due to the 2 club rule

Good point, had forgotten that. He wasn't playing at Cheltenham so presumably he will drop to League Two to get game time
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: DevonInStripes on January 02, 2024, 03:56:08 PM
Given the severe lack of players offensively then I don’t think we can let Jovan go out on loan again . He has to be part of the match day squad for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2024, 03:59:20 PM
then he'd be stuck with us for the season due to the 2 club rule

He's already played for us this season in the Carabao Cup. I'm sure players are allowed to pay for 3 clubs in one season or calendar year unless they changed the rules again.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: overseas baggie on January 02, 2024, 03:59:57 PM
Given the severe lack of players offensively then I don’t think we can let Jovan go out on loan again . He has to be part of the match day squad for the foreseeable future.

Unless we also recall Mo Faal and can send out JM on a new loan ?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: overseas baggie on January 02, 2024, 04:03:11 PM
He's already played for us this season in the Carabao Cup. I'm sure players are allowed to pay for 3 clubs in one season or calendar year unless they changed the rules again.

I’m pretty sure the limit is still 2 clubs between 1 July and 30 June.  I hadn’t realised he’d played for us in the Carabao Cup.  If that’s the case then I don’t think he can move again - except possibly back to Cheltenham before the end of the window?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2024, 04:29:24 PM
I’m pretty sure the limit is still 2 clubs between 1 July and 30 June.  I hadn’t realised he’d played for us in the Carabao Cup.  If that’s the case then I don’t think he can move again - except possibly back to Cheltenham before the end of the window?

You're right. They can be registered with 3 but play for 2, I know the rules were relaxed during covid but seems its now back to normal.

He has to stay here or go to a country where the seasons overlap such as Ireland for example

Players may be registered with a maximum of three clubs during one season. During this
period, the player is only eligible to play official matches for two clubs. As an exception to
this rule, a player moving between two clubs belonging to associations with overlapping
seasons (i.e. start of the season in summer/autumn as opposed to winter/spring) may be
eligible to play in official matches for a third club during the relevant season, provided he
has fully complied with his contractual obligations towards his previous clubs. Equally, the
provisions relating to the registration periods (article 6) as  as well as to the minimum length of
a contract (article 18 paragraph 2) must be respected.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggie79 on January 02, 2024, 04:30:59 PM
Jovan Malcolm has returned from Cheltenham Town in League One. Straight into the team Vs Aldershot?

I dont think I would be on my own suggesting he wil simply never be good enough to be a regular for us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: kanu on January 02, 2024, 04:38:03 PM
Faal hasn't scored for a while, perhaps because he has been an unused sub for a couple of games.
Could be as unused subs rarely score. In all seriousness though I’d bring him back and play him off the bench. Half a season in league 1 with a few goals and mom accolades suggests he’ll be useful for us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on January 02, 2024, 04:57:42 PM
No rush with Faal as he’s cup tied having been allowed to play in earlier round for Donny
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: graka on January 02, 2024, 07:46:45 PM
I’d leave Faal where he is given CC reluctance to use the young uns
It’s my only criticism of him really he’s doing a great job and he sees them in training but I really don’t see the point in even putting them on the bench
I have no idea how good Higgins is but I’d have rather see him come on for 10 minutes than Pieters at Swansea
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 02, 2024, 07:56:05 PM
I agree with Graka, no point calling the young ones back, good chance CC won't play them. It will just stall their development.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Sted1990 on January 02, 2024, 08:11:31 PM
Apparently Malcolm can go to the national league
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 04, 2024, 10:55:16 PM
Cardiff has said Grants injury is NOT serious, may even make the squad for next game
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on January 05, 2024, 08:16:25 AM
Cardiff has said Grants injury is NOT serious, may even make the squad for next game

Let’s hope they buy him then.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 05, 2024, 09:28:43 AM
Let’s hope they buy him then.

Fingers and toes crossed
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mikkyk on January 08, 2024, 04:02:45 PM
I've not really been tracking progress (or lack of) of our loan players.

As we're at the half way stage ish of the season, is there anyone out there willing to put together a summary of how players have done on their respective loans so far?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on January 08, 2024, 04:32:45 PM
Fingers and toes crossed

I'd become a cross dresser if it get him out without a massive loss to us.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 08, 2024, 04:35:08 PM
I'd become a cross dresser if it get him out without a massive loss to us.

We will take a massive loss, it's inevitable. What we can hope for is to minimize that loss as much as possible.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on January 08, 2024, 07:19:11 PM
We will take a massive loss, it's inevitable. What we can hope for is to minimize that loss as much as possible.

In his case the best hope is to offload the wages burden and recover the value that remains outstanding to Huddersfield.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 08, 2024, 07:40:52 PM
In his case the best hope is to offload the wages burden and recover the value that remains outstanding to Huddersfield.

Yes i agree,  i am saying get rid ASAP, colossal waste of money. Thanks Slav!
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 09, 2024, 07:23:51 AM
Yes i agree,  i am saying get rid ASAP, colossal waste of money. Thanks Slav!

There's no denying there was more than one protagonist in that deal. That six year lay away plan. Muppetry.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 09, 2024, 07:31:53 PM
There's no denying there was more than one protagonist in that deal. That six year lay away plan. Muppetry.

True but driven along by Slav alone who later admitted he knew he wasn't staying past the 2nd year of his deal by the summer during promotion.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KN22 on January 09, 2024, 10:43:35 PM
There's no denying there was more than one protagonist in that deal. That six year lay away plan. Muppetry.

Of course there was. We’ve discussed this before. The manager does not have the authority to sign huge value cheques. He can say he wants the player but can be overruled. That’s how the hierarchy works in any business.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on January 13, 2024, 06:01:29 PM
Mo Faal has apparently returned to The Hawthorns
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: overseas baggie on January 13, 2024, 06:31:21 PM
Mo Faal has apparently returned to The Hawthorns

Wasn’t that last week?
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Mikkyk on January 13, 2024, 07:10:16 PM
https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1746229644678836666?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1746229644678836666?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

Interview with Grant McCann discussing Faal leaving Doncaster
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: zac on January 13, 2024, 07:13:22 PM
https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1746229644678836666?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1746229644678836666?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

Interview with Grant McCann discussing Faal leaving Doncaster

Doesn't reflect very well on the player.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2024, 07:57:55 PM
Interesting one. No point him coming back here as he won't play. I'm assuming he's pushed us to let him go to a League 1 club.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: hardtobeat on January 13, 2024, 07:59:07 PM
Can he play elsewhere. He was on the bench in the Carabao Cup.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2024, 07:59:59 PM
Can he play elsewhere. He was on the bench in the Carabao Cup.


Don't think he's played for anyone but Donny so should be ok to move. He didn't play for us in the cup game
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: overseas baggie on January 13, 2024, 08:07:30 PM

Don't think he's played for anyone but Donny so should be ok to move. He didn't play for us in the cup game

I don’t think being an unused sub counts as an appearance for us, so he should be alright to go out on a new loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Baggies on January 13, 2024, 08:13:25 PM
Young lads need agents to stop them being taken advantage of, but it all sounds very off that he was happy to stay there, doing well, then next thing you know he wants to move despite both clubs wishes. Maybe someone like Wrexham or Stockport want him.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on January 13, 2024, 08:14:44 PM
I don’t think being an unused sub counts as an appearance for us, so he should be alright to go out on a new loan

Hope so OB, no point him sitting here for 5 more months, he needs to be out playing.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on January 14, 2024, 02:53:24 PM
That interview with McCann reflects really badly on Mo Faal Let's hope something comes out to explain why he has behaved so disrespectfully
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: BalisPen on January 14, 2024, 06:37:11 PM
Let's see where he ends up at the end of the window, so I am not going to be critical of him yet.

It appears to me it is the agent telling him that he can do better trying to get his client playing at a higher level so he gets his payday quicker.

I am shocked to see that as a club we appear to so little input in the decision, and we are maybe too scared to put foot down fearing we may lose another youth player.

If he goes nowhere and is still playing u23 football and not had any impact with us in February then that gives us small insight of what really happens at youth level, which I am sure most suspected was agent lead all along in most cases.

To not have anything better lined up should lead MF seeing sense and changing his agent, but who knows.

It also sounds like Brunty and McCann have the kind of history where he has been told of our disappointment, after he has got him at Rovers in the first place.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba_1996 on January 14, 2024, 07:05:38 PM
Decent chance Faal ends up at Walsall. Apparently he was in the stands yesterday and also seen rumours from the Doncaster end that he's going there. Realistically, he's probably not League 1 level yet, needs a good end to the season before making the step up imo.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: KYA on January 15, 2024, 06:38:47 PM
Faal to Walsall loan confirmed.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2024, 07:38:09 AM
Strange. Walsall hadn’t really been any better than Doncaster until December.
 
I don’t know why we allowed this to happen it when he was getting minutes for a manager who clearly liked him
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 16, 2024, 11:13:39 AM
Strange. Walsall hadn’t really been any better than Doncaster until December.
 
I don’t know why we allowed this to happen it when he was getting minutes for a manager who clearly liked him
im not sure what the club could do? Player wanted out and Donny weren’t going to pick him in games (manager said he didn’t even want him in training if he wasn’t committed) so right for all parties to let him go elsewhere. We could force him to stay but that risks us burning bridges with Faal/Doncaster/McCann and he won’t play anyway.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on January 16, 2024, 12:29:55 PM
im not sure what the club could do? Player wanted out and Donny weren’t going to pick him in games (manager said he didn’t even want him in training if he wasn’t committed) so right for all parties to let him go elsewhere. We could force him to stay but that risks us burning bridges with Faal/Doncaster/McCann and he won’t play anyway.

Maybe he was just homesick, or sick of Doncaster, which is understandable frankly.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 16, 2024, 01:48:54 PM
im not sure what the club could do? Player wanted out and Donny weren’t going to pick him in games (manager said he didn’t even want him in training if he wasn’t committed) so right for all parties to let him go elsewhere. We could force him to stay but that risks us burning bridges with Faal/Doncaster/McCann and he won’t play anyway.

By the time he’s said he wants out I agree.

However you’d hope people at the club who know him would be talking to him before then and ascertain his happiness. Tell the lad and explain why it was important he show some mettle, knuckle down with the right attitude and use the time the manager is giving him to come back in 6 months a better player.

I can’t speak for CC, but I suspect he will be less than impressed with him and I wouldn’t be surprised if this little power play with his agent finishes him with us. I’d have big questions on his character now to be honest.

Obviously we have no idea if there is wider issues, but at face value it’s really poor from a young pro.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: wba_1996 on January 16, 2024, 11:53:14 PM
Bit of context on Faal as I like to follow all our loan players closely, as well as the lower leagues in general:

Doncaster were playing 2 strikers in the first half of the season and Faal had a good partnership going with Ironside, who is their star player and top scorer. Unfortunately they're awful defensively so they switched to a 433 in December, and obviously Ironside was chosen to lead the line. This left Faal stuck out of position on the left wing, where he's been, by all accounts, pretty garbage. They've just signed Waters from Wrexham who can play off the left as well so it's likely Faal would end up on the bench.

Walsall have a decent team and their new owners seem a bit more ambitious than the previous one. They play 2 up front and their top scorer has just been recalled by Lincoln. This + a move closer to home and the switch is a no-brainer. Realistically he needs another good 6 months before he's ready for League 1.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Albionic on January 17, 2024, 09:31:49 AM
Bit of context on Faal as I like to follow all our loan players closely, as well as the lower leagues in general:

Doncaster were playing 2 strikers in the first half of the season and Faal had a good partnership going with Ironside, who is their star player and top scorer. Unfortunately they're awful defensively so they switched to a 433 in December, and obviously Ironside was chosen to lead the line. This left Faal stuck out of position on the left wing, where he's been, by all accounts, pretty garbage. They've just signed Waters from Wrexham who can play off the left as well so it's likely Faal would end up on the bench.

Walsall have a decent team and their new owners seem a bit more ambitious than the previous one. They play 2 up front and their top scorer has just been recalled by Lincoln. This + a move closer to home and the switch is a no-brainer. Realistically he needs another good 6 months before he's ready for League 1.

Thanks for this, makes more sense from a football perspective, still sounds like it was handled appallingly by the lad and his agent though, its a small industry and a poor reputation is hard to shake off sadly, lets hope the damage is limited .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Standaman on January 17, 2024, 01:54:21 PM
I have some sympathy for Mo Faal and his agent. He is out of contract in the summer. If he had time on his Albion contract maybe it iwould worthwhile for him to bide his time sitting on the bench at Doncaster with the occasional out of position appearance but that ain't going to be worth diddly squat in getting him a contract.

If I were a young player in his position I would expect my agent to move heaven and earth to get me somewhere that I might play and could earn a contract. Sorry Grant McCann nor West Bromwich Albion are paying his bills after May. Fans rightly complain about already rich professionals rinsing the game for another big payday but that very quickly drops away in lower divisions where contracts are short and the pay is much lower especially for up and coming players with a limited track record.

There is very little upside for Faal to passively tow the line.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: johnny Cash on January 17, 2024, 02:26:45 PM
I have some sympathy for Mo Faal and his agent. He is out of contract in the summer. If he had time on his Albion contract maybe it iwould worthwhile for him to bide his time sitting on the bench at Doncaster with the occasional out of position appearance but that ain't going to be worth diddly squat in getting him a contract.

If I were a young player in his position I would expect my agent to move heaven and earth to get me somewhere that I might play and could earn a contract. Sorry Grant McCann nor West Bromwich Albion are paying his bills after May. Fans rightly complain about already rich professionals rinsing the game for another big payday but that very quickly drops away in lower divisions where contracts are short and the pay is much lower especially for up and coming players with a limited track record.

There is very little upside for Faal to passively tow the line.

He signed a new two year deal last summer so does have a little more time. If he does well for Walsall, I’d imagine we will try and sell him to a league one club in the summer.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 17, 2024, 02:54:29 PM
I have some sympathy for Mo Faal and his agent. He is out of contract in the summer. If he had time on his Albion contract maybe it iwould worthwhile for him to bide his time sitting on the bench at Doncaster with the occasional out of position appearance but that ain't going to be worth diddly squat in getting him a contract.

If I were a young player in his position I would expect my agent to move heaven and earth to get me somewhere that I might play and could earn a contract. Sorry Grant McCann nor West Bromwich Albion are paying his bills after May. Fans rightly complain about already rich professionals rinsing the game for another big payday but that very quickly drops away in lower divisions where contracts are short and the pay is much lower especially for up and coming players with a limited track record.

There is very little upside for Faal to passively tow the line.

Great post Standaman, Fair play to him AND his agent sometimes you have to stand up for yourself . Tulloch for example has been ruled by others and will be shuffled out in the summer if not before
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 26, 2024, 05:15:52 PM
Aaron Harper-Bailey has joined Kidderminster Harriers on loan
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on January 27, 2024, 09:40:26 PM
Zac Ashworth got a goal and an assist for Bolton in their 1-4 victory away to Carlisle United today.
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: NJS on February 18, 2024, 09:37:14 AM
Ash worth played for 90+1 minutes for Bolton yesterday and provided the cross for its equiliser.

Taylor was not called from the bench.
Title: Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
Post by: iwastherein68 on February 21, 2024, 10:42:47 AM
Caleb Taylor picked up a "nasty injury" last night according to the Bolton manager. Suspecting ankle ligament damage. Does it never end?
Title: Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
Post by: lewisant on February 21, 2024, 12:30:12 PM
Caleb Taylor picked up a "nasty injury" last night according to the Bolton manager. Suspecting ankle ligament damage. Does it never end?

Unreal! Hope he’s ok and can be fit and firing for us for pre season or maybe back for Bolton if they’re in the play-offs
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: SmethDan on February 21, 2024, 12:57:41 PM
All of the very best for a full and speedy recovery Caleb  8) .
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on February 24, 2024, 03:38:35 PM
Grants scored for Cardiff today, think thats 5 for the season, need about 10 more from him
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Post by: GrumpyBaggie on February 25, 2024, 06:29:32 PM
Faal scored for Walsall yesterday - and missed a sitter from 3 yards....
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Post by: BalisPen on February 25, 2024, 08:06:01 PM
Cardiff bought Robinson from us for £1.5m.

Would anyone take £1.5m for Grant if Cardiff offered that at the end of his loan?
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Post by: gazberg on February 25, 2024, 08:12:59 PM
Cardiff bought Robinson from us for £1.5m.

Would anyone take £1.5m for Grant if Cardiff offered that at the end of his loan?

I think CC wants him out so wouldn't surprise me
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Post by: Fritzl Palace on February 25, 2024, 08:33:16 PM
I think CC wants him out so wouldn't surprise me

I would take any amount of money for him provided we were no longer indebted to Huddersfield. Just one of our many awful signings over recent years
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Post by: DevonInStripes on February 25, 2024, 09:44:54 PM
If it means him gone , I’d let Grant go for free .
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Post by: KnaveofAlbion on February 25, 2024, 09:49:11 PM
If it means him gone , I’d let Grant go for free .

Sadly we still owe two years payments on him i think. But getting him off the payroll would be significant.
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Post by: gazberg on February 25, 2024, 10:20:13 PM
Sadly we still owe two years payments on him i think. But getting him off the payroll would be significant.

Yes the fee was spread over the 6 years so we owe somewhere in the region of 4-5m on him still
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Post by: Standaman on February 25, 2024, 11:47:20 PM
Grant really needed for this loan to go well to revive his career and dig us out of a the financial hole. It hasn't gone well or at least not well enough for someone to spend money on him. He will be farmed out on loan again next season and if we are lucky we will get half his wages paid.
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Post by: Fritzl Palace on February 27, 2024, 10:26:05 PM
Faal with an assist tonight as Walsall continue their play off charge
Title: Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
Post by: gazberg on March 02, 2024, 07:24:38 PM
Mo Faal scores for Walsall against Doncaster because he has to