I don't want to move this conversation too far away from Conor, but I was looking back through our full backs from recent seasons, and there aren't many good ones, or least, few that have universally been appreciated.
Before Townsend and Furlong we had:
Gibbs - some would say lightweight in the tackle and injury prone
Ferguson - generally well rated, but left under a cloud
O'Shea - out of position and didn't offer much going forward
Holgate - generally well rated
Nyom - very up and down
Tosin Adarabiyo - out of position and not rated
Dawson - played out of position by Pulis, not good going forward
Brunt - played of position by Pulis, not enough pace
Gamboa - not played a lot
Pocognoli - not played a lot
Lescott - out of position by Pulis, a lot of ups and downs
Ridgewell - very up and down
Going back further you have the likes.of Billy Jones who people used to criticise for being a poor defender
I suppose the point is, either we have had fairly poor full backs for a long time, or, fans expect too much from full backs, including the likes of Townsend.
for me i think it's an issue with the direction the club has been going in the last 10 years.
when we signed Townsend, he was a backup option. general feeling was he wasn't good enough for our team.
6 years on from that signing he's now our recognised left back.
same season we signed Bartley, we all know how that rollercoaster has gone. but it's at the point now our defence is better with him in it.
4 of our 5 main defensive options have been at the club 5 or more years.
if Kipre doesn't play it's the same back 4 we had under Bilic in 2019/20.