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West Bromwich Albion FC Forums => West Bromwich Albion FC => Topic started by: Sted1990 on March 02, 2019, 08:37:17 AM
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I don’t think we have a promotion topic so I thought why not.
So it’s looking like the play offs? However we all know in this league 2 results and things can change so quickly.
My biggest concerns about the play offs would be taking on a Middlesbrough side who under Pulis have beat us twice this season.
With the majority of the harder games out the way I still won’t rule out automatic promotion as if we go on a run then who knows, but first let’s secure a play off place.
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For automatic promotion we need to win 10 of the last 11 games. Not going to happen. We should be fine for play offs.
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Teams below us winning their games in hand will give us just a 3 point cushion from 7th. Play-offs are certainly not a foregone conclusion.
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Teams below us winning their games in hand will give us just a 3 point cushion from 7th. Play-offs are certainly not a foregone conclusion.
Last night was painful yes, but perspective still needed. We had won 7 from 8 away games prior to that. I still think we will comfortably finish top 6.
Don't think we'll go up though as the players don't seem to have the bottle any more and the manager is struggling to find consistently without player of the season Harvey Barnes.
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Last night was painful yes, but perspective still needed. We had won 7 from 8 away games prior to that. I still think we will comfortably finish top 6.
Don't think we'll go up though as the players don't seem to have the bottle any more and the manager is struggling to find consistently without player of the season Harvey Barnes.
I think we'll win 7 or 8 of the remaining games and rue the home form since ironically the Leeds game. Play Offs is a lottery but on our day we're easily the best side likely to be in them. Would love to beat Sheffield United in them.
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The shocking thing is that if the teams below us win their games in hand, they'll be within a win of catching us. If we lose to Ipswich, which if we're honest could easily happen, we may even lose momentum to make the playoffs.
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The shocking thing is that if the teams below us win their games in hand, they'll be within a win of catching us. If we lose to Ipswich, which if we're honest could easily happen, we may even lose momentum to make the playoffs.
Highly, highly unlikely. Big overreaction.
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The highest points total needed for the play-off in recent years was 80 in 2016/17, though this year I think 72 will secure a top six place.
We're currently on 60 with 11 games left.
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Highly, highly unlikely. Big overreaction.
That's why I used the word "if". ::)
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I think we'll win 7 or 8 of the remaining games and rue the home form since ironically the Leeds game. Play Offs is a lottery but on our day we're easily the best side likely to be in them. Would love to beat Sheffield United in them.
I don't know where you get that idea from.
The top 5 teams that we have played this season - 1st half of the season we won 4 (Norwich, Leeds, Sheff Utd and Bristol City) lost 1 ( Middlesboro).
But in the 2nd half of the season we have lost 3 ( leeds, sheff utd and Middlesboro) and drew 1 ( Norwich) with still 1 team to play.
So I would say we are probably going to be the weakest team in the play offs.
It's still not a done deal either that we will be in the pay offs.
We have awkward away matches at Bristol City, Derby and Brentford.
We have potential banana skins at home against Birmingham, Swansea, Hull and Preston . 3 of which are fighting to get into the play offs.
Then we have away matches at Millwall and Reading who are fighting against relegation.
The way we are playing and how other teams have worked out how to play against us , it could be tough !!
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The highest points total needed for the play-off in recent years was 80 in 2016/17, though this year I think 72 will secure a top six place.
We're currently on 60 with 11 games left.
We'd need 88 for Automatic I surmise which allows us to drop only 5 more points, as I said not going to happen, agree though, 12/14 more points will get us play offs this year.
I don't know where you get that idea from.
The top 5 teams that we have played this season - 1st half of the season we won 4 (Norwich, Leeds, Sheff Utd and Bristol City) lost 1 ( Middlesboro).
But in the 2nd half of the season we have lost 3 ( leeds, sheff utd and Middlesboro) and drew 1 ( Norwich) with still 1 team to play.
So I would say we are probably going to be the weakest team in the play offs.
It's still not a done deal either that we will be in the pay offs.
We have awkward away matches at Bristol City, Derby and Brentford.
We have potential banana skins at home against Birmingham, Swansea, Hull and Preston . 3 of which are fighting to get into the play offs.
Then we have away matches at Millwall and Reading who are fighting against relegation.
The way we are playing and how other teams have worked out how to play against us , it could be tough !!
You're right we're going to lose every game.
We only need 4 wins and a draw to get in the play-offs, I said on our day: That's where I get it from, we haven't turned up against Sheff Utd or Leeds, I expect us to put that right next couple of weeks. Phillips transforms this side.
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The issue would be against the better teams when the pressure was on we have come up short.
For us going for promotion we have now got the worst games out the way and I expect us to just about win enough games to make the play offs but it just papers over the cracks of the last month when we had the chance to lay down a maker as we approach the last part of the season, beat those around us when it counted and cement a top 2 place, we came up short and showed we are not good enough.
I have seen nothing from this group of players to suggest they can handle the pressure of the play offs, a Sheffield United, Middlesbrough, possibly even Forest would be too savvy for us, a Leeds would be too much for us over two games.
Our best bet would be to play a Derby or Bristol City who seem to blow hot and cold but are bit more expansive which would possibly suit us more than the other teams we could play (though i think whoever we play the pressure would be too much and we would bottle it)
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2 games and everything changes. Leeds VS Sheffield United is prior to Brentford away, it’ll be interesting to see where we are come 5pm that day. Talk of us not making the plays offs is very premature, we would have to fall apart in March.
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Derby, Bristol and Middlesbrough get 2 points between them.
Play offs look very very likely.
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We basically have a free hit now, I can't see us not making the playoffs, especially after todays results. We must have the nerve to go all out every game, starting with Ipswich, even if it means going back to 352. Murphy, Gayle and Phillips on the pitch every second they are fit, 9 wins might still make automatic.
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Looking at the table tonight I don't think we will catch Norwich. We might overhaul Leeds and Sheffield United but I think it is going to take a herculean effort I doubt anything less than 8 wins out of the remaining 11 would be enough at the moment I have to say that looks beyond us. Although if we win the next 4 then the pressure might start to tell on those ahead of us.
Equally while we are nine points off top spot we are nine points ahead of 7th I would expect us to hold our place in the top 6.
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I don't know where you get that idea from.
The top 5 teams that we have played this season - 1st half of the season we won 4 (Norwich, Leeds, Sheff Utd and Bristol City) lost 1 ( Middlesboro).
But in the 2nd half of the season we have lost 3 ( leeds, sheff utd and Middlesboro) and drew 1 ( Norwich) with still 1 team to play.
So I would say we are probably going to be the weakest team in the play offs.
It's still not a done deal either that we will be in the pay offs.
We have awkward away matches at Bristol City, Derby and Brentford.
We have potential banana skins at home against Birmingham, Swansea, Hull and Preston . 3 of which are fighting to get into the play offs.
Then we have away matches at Millwall and Reading who are fighting against relegation.
The way we are playing and how other teams have worked out how to play against us , it could be tough !!
Crikey, this is an incredibly bleak post isn’t it 😄 I reckon we are good value for the play offs. If we win our two home games coming up we should be fine for top 6
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I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't make play offs and it wouldn't be a shock that Darren and Jones would still be in charge next season even under those circumstances
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I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't make play offs and it wouldn't be a shock that Darren and Jones would still be in charge next season even under those circumstances
Way too many points left to win and lose for every club at this point to even consider giving up. I love the fact that, even after two disappointing results, nothing is assured. So many twists and turns to go yet. Keep the faith. COYB.
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Crikey, this is an incredibly bleak post isn’t it 😄 I reckon we are good value for the play offs. If we win our two home games coming up we should be fine for top 6
Sometimes you have be realistic. Have you witnessed our home form recently ???
I'm even reading posts about how people think we will still get automatic !!!
Well if they really believe put all your money on it 9/4 at Skybet for promotion .
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Sometimes you have be realistic. Have you witnessed our home form recently ???
I'm even reading posts about how people think we will still get automatic !!!
Well if they really believe put all your money on it 9/4 at Skybet for promotion .
It's not realistic, despite our home form we're still right in it, the last time we played any of the poorer sides at home we won, we're despatching teams away from home, Friday's aberration aside. Ipswich, Swansea and Blues at home and Brentford away will see us heavy favourites in all those games, no reason to think we won't take 10 to 12 points. That takes us into April feeling much more positive.
Of course the sky could fall in as you seem to be predicting, but I doubt it.
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It's not realistic, despite our home form we're still right in it, the last time we played any of the poorer sides at home we won, we're despatching teams away from home, Friday's aberration aside. Ipswich, Swansea and Blues at home and Brentford away will see us heavy favourites in all those games, no reason to think we won't take 10 to 12 points. That takes us into April feeling much more positive.
Of course the sky could fall in as you seem to be predicting, but I doubt it.
of course you are right - Brentford , Sheffield Wednesday at home - they weren't despatched. So why do you think Blues, Hull, Preston etc will be ??
Since we beat Leeds at Home we have only won once against a poor Wigan team.
It's no good being heavy favourites , we need to do the talking on the pitch.
I will have to see what the odds are for the sky falling in !!!
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It only takes Norwich and Leeds and sheffu to lose a match draw a game,play each other etc and us to win and promo is back on it's not all doom and gloom,yes past 2 very poor but that must be the springboard to bounce straight back to winning ways,also at this stage I don't care how as long as the results a win.
Were still fourth somehow and I don't think we've played well as a team all season apart from one or two games.
Because of the damage incurred throughout the club by the two P,s,this season was always going to be massive and Dave et all are bringing back the crowds to be proud of our club again not a laughing stock.
Have the top 3 hit bad patches yet?
They can get nervous because there's only one way for them to go and that's down we've got something to chase like the relay runner in second place coming off the final bend,know what I mean?
The best is yet to come for us be positive not negative.
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Automatic isn't yet out of reach but will need a complete turnaround of fortunes, I would expect a play off place
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Sometimes you have be realistic. Have you witnessed our home form recently ???
I'm even reading posts about how people think we will still get automatic !!!
Well if they really believe put all your money on it 9/4 at Skybet for promotion .
Exactly.
Automatic Promotion is over. Because of the last 2 games it is gone and we have bottled it. to get automatic we would have to win 9 out of the last 11 realistically and hope for the others to drop serious points.
not going to happen when weve won once at home in 4 months.
We are going to limp into the play offs.
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There is a POTENTIALLY dangerous cocktail brewing at the Hawthorns
a) A terrible home run
b) simmering discontent from some of the fans
c) players being played out of position (again)
d) players possibly losing faith in the "system"
e) coaching team tinkering to find the elusive winning formula.
I really believe we need to go back to football 101.
Pick a 4-4-2 which all players understand
Play round pegs in round holes (Gayle and Tosin for starters)
Rest players who are knackered
Grind out a home win against Ipswich
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There is a POTENTIALLY dangerous cocktail brewing at the Hawthorns
a) A terrible home run
b) simmering discontent from some of the fans
c) players being played out of position (again)
d) players possibly losing faith in the "system"
e) coaching team tinkering to find the elusive winning formula.
I really believe we need to go back to football 101.
Pick a 4-4-2 which all players understand
Play round pegs in round holes (Gayle and Tosin for starters)
Rest players who are knackered
Grind out a home win against Ipswich
Agree with a lot of that , I've felt for a while DM /GJ are over complicating things and asking things of certain players that they cannot do or at best uncomfortable doing them.
The performance and result on Saturday will tell us everything , time for a shuffle with the system and certain players IMO . Get some form going rather than limp into the Play offs if we are lucky.
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I know everyone's hurting after the Leeds result but come on, we need to pick ourselves up. The very fact that it would take a disaster for us not to make the play offs shows what a good season we've had. Add to this the fact that, apart from Boro, we have already beaten the other teams we are likely to face.
We are still in this, right up to the wire, let's not let the doom and gloom derail us now, let's have some positivity for one final push.
If we sensed for one second that the players or coaches were giving up, we would be incensed, yet we do it ourselves?
Even if you believe automatic is out of reach,which I don't, just let yourself imagine you and 50,000 fellow Baggies clinching promotion at Wembley! If that doesn't get your senses tingling, nothing will, it's what being a football supporter is all about, surely??
Don't give up.
COYB
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Over the last 65 years of following and supporting Albion, one thing I have learnt during this time and that is they never cease in surprising you, good and bad!
I just which there was an algorithm I could use to work out what the %’s are and have some form of assurance or reassurance about an outcome, but I haven’t and I mither myself to distraction as a result.
But if I did have any type of foresight, I probably would become complacent and still wouldn’t be contented as I’d know the outcome and it wouldn’t then be a surprise.
You just can’t win with some folk!
I’ll get we coot
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It only takes Norwich and Leeds and sheffu to lose a match draw a game,play each other etc and us to win and promo is back on it's not all doom and gloom,yes past 2 very poor but that must be the springboard to bounce straight back to winning ways,also at this stage I don't care how as long as the results a win.
Were still fourth somehow and I don't think we've played well as a team all season apart from one or two games.
Because of the damage incurred throughout the club by the two P,s,this season was always going to be massive and Dave et all are bringing back the crowds to be proud of our club again not a laughing stock.
Have the top 3 hit bad patches yet?
They can get nervous because there's only one way for them to go and that's down we've got something to chase like the relay runner in second place coming off the final bend,know what I mean?
The best is yet to come for us be positive not negative.
I like this post. It is of course easy to be totally despondent after the last 2 games but there is a lot still to play for and, although I no longer expect us to achieve automatic promotion it is still possible. Keep the glass half full, it's much more fun!!
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I can't see any reason why we can't make the play offs at least and the players we have should be more than capable of delivering that.
Some have talked off the current top 3 dropping points but if you look at what they do, they all seem to have the ability to grind out wins. Norwich appear to be unstoppable, Sheff Utd are certainly well organised and Leeds stutter about but are still there, reacting to the expectations and support they get.
On Friday Leeds had more pace, desire and ability against us and we looked like rabbits in headlights.
Sadly any side that shows that against us will find that we are susceptible against pace at the back, we lack creativity in midfield and at times have forwards who don't appear to be able to score. Yes I know we did score goals for fun. but that's dried up and we are back to conceding goals and then chasing games.
Luckily the teams below us are not that good and results below us have gone in our favour. The Vile will still be 'interested' so could also do us favours over the next few weeks so all is not lost.
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I can't see any reason why we can't make the play offs at least and the players we have should be more than capable of delivering that.
Some have talked off the current top 3 dropping points but if you look at what they do, they all seem to have the ability to grind out wins. Norwich appear to be unstoppable, Sheff Utd are certainly well organised and Leeds stutter about but are still there, reacting to the expectations and support they get.
On Friday Leeds had more pace, desire and ability against us and we looked like rabbits in headlights.
Sadly any side that shows that against us will find that we are susceptible against pace at the back, we lack creativity in midfield and at times have forwards who don't appear to be able to score. Yes I know we did score goals for fun. but that's dried up and we are back to conceding goals and then chasing games.
Luckily the teams below us are not that good and results below us have gone in our favour. The Vile will still be 'interested' so could also do us favours over the next few weeks so all is not lost.
im sorry but the "all is not lost" attitude is not good enough for me. that squad should finish in the top two and it now seems very unlikely that we are going to achieve that and look nailed on to be going into the play offs which is a complete lottery and with DM's tactical awareness i wouldnt back us against anybody over 2 legs.
Still angry and disappointing from friday.
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All three teams above us have a clear way of playing and a settled first team and a seemingly strong group/ teamwork ethic - vital elements all promoted teams need and the very things we seem to lack to be honest.
The best we can hope for is to get lucky in the play offs in my opinion.............
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I can't see any reason why we can't make the play offs at least and the players we have should be more than capable of delivering that.
Some have talked off the current top 3 dropping points but if you look at what they do, they all seem to have the ability to grind out wins. Norwich appear to be unstoppable, Sheff Utd are certainly well organised and Leeds stutter about but are still there, reacting to the expectations and support they get.
On Friday Leeds had more pace, desire and ability against us and we looked like rabbits in headlights.
Sadly any side that shows that against us will find that we are susceptible against pace at the back, we lack creativity in midfield and at times have forwards who don't appear to be able to score. Yes I know we did score goals for fun. but that's dried up and we are back to conceding goals and then chasing games.
Luckily the teams below us are not that good and results below us have gone in our favour. The Vile will still be 'interested' so could also do us favours over the next few weeks so all is not lost.
Would be very interesting if Villa sneaked into the playoffs along with us
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Would be very interesting if Villa sneaked into the playoffs along with us
I don’t even want to think about this happening.
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Would be very interesting if Villa sneaked into the playoffs along with us
No chance. They need a similar run to the one we need for automatic, more even.
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Would be very interesting if Villa sneaked into the playoffs along with us
I reckon Preston have a better chance than that claret and blue shower.
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I’ll stick my neck on the line and say Villa will make top 6 with Middlesbrough, Sheff U and us. I’d say Grealish is definitely the best player in the league. I expect them to beat Blues on Sunday.
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I see the 'super computer' has us finishing in 4th place, that will give us a two legged semi against Boro and a potential final against Sheff Utd or Bristol City.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/super-computer-predicted-west-brom-15922000
Wouldn't relish any of those TBH
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I see the 'super computer' has us finishing in 4th place, that will give us a two legged semi against Boro and a potential final against Sheff Utd or Bristol City.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/super-computer-predicted-west-brom-15922000
Wouldn't relish any of those TBH
We currently have the best away record in the league so should fear no-one over 2 legs and the final against any of those 2 would be a fantastic occasion and, in my opinion, our biggest game for 30 years.
We should be relishing this, after all the, largely meaningless, mind-numbing, non-entity football we've watched over recent years.
Imagine the passion, anticipation, fear, excitement, euphoria that these games can bring, isn't that what football, or, more importantly, being a football supporter, is all about?
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We currently have the best away record in the league so should fear no-one over 2 legs and the final against any of those 2 would be a fantastic occasion and, in my opinion, our biggest game for 30 years.
We should be relishing this, after all the, largely meaningless, mind-numbing, non-entity football we've watched over recent years.
Imagine the passion, anticipation, fear, excitement, euphoria that these games can bring, isn't that what football, or, more importantly, being a football supporter, is all about?
all we have to do is get the team to turn up
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Still a lot of twists and turns on the road ahead. Jumpers for goal posts. If we score more than the opposition I'll be over the moon, if we don't I'll be sick as a parrot. Cliches aside there really is a lot of football to be played and the promotion race is far from over yet.
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My nightmare would be playing Boro in the play-offs. Four defeats to that cap-wearing **** in a season, and another season (at least) in the Championship? :'(
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Still a lot of twists and turns on the road ahead. Jumpers for goal posts. If we score more than the opposition I'll be over the moon, if we don't I'll be sick as a parrot. Cliches aside there really is a lot of football to be played and the promotion race is far from over yet.
pretty much how I feel about it, still some twists and turn to come.
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My nightmare would be playing Boro in the play-offs. Four defeats to that cap-wearing **** in a season, and another season (at least) in the Championship? :'(
Imagine beating them though. Remember last year against Villa when they didn't have a shot on target.
We shouldn't fear that coward.
I hope we get them and stuff them!
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If we do play them, over two legs, we only need to score, on aggregate, one more goal against them than they do against us.
So, we can lose a game to them and still win, simples! :o ;D :'(
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I know everyone's hurting after the Leeds result but come on, we need to pick ourselves up. The very fact that it would take a disaster for us not to make the play offs shows what a good season we've had. Add to this the fact that, apart from Boro, we have already beaten the other teams we are likely to face.
We are still in this, right up to the wire, let's not let the doom and gloom derail us now, let's have some positivity for one final push.
If we sensed for one second that the players or coaches were giving up, we would be incensed, yet we do it ourselves?
Even if you believe automatic is out of reach,which I don't, just let yourself imagine you and 50,000 fellow Baggies clinching promotion at Wembley! If that doesn't get your senses tingling, nothing will, it's what being a football supporter is all about, surely??
Don't give up.
COYB
Best post yet, so much doom and gloom around at the moment. I know our previous two games have been pretty awful after the amazing scenes at Loftus Road recently, but we can cement our play off place and make a darn good go of it if we can get a few more wins.
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Derby win their game in hand so the gap to Ipswich is now 6 points.
A huge week coming up with 3 games in 7 days, things could look much brighter, terrible or about the same.
I’ll go with the same.
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Derby win their game in hand so the gap to Ipswich is now 6 points.
A huge week coming up with 3 games in 7 days, things could look much brighter, terrible or about the same.
I’ll go with the same.
Strange post.
Derby don't have a game in hand, and where do Ipswich come into it, apart from Saturday?
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Strange post.
Derby don't have a game in hand, and where do Ipswich come into it, apart from Saturday?
Think he means that Derby's win last night puts them 7th & level on points with 6th placed Bristol City.
Bristol City & Boro have a game in hand on us.
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Think he means that Derby's win last night puts them 7th & level on points with 6th placed Bristol City.
Bristol City & Boro have a game in hand on us.
Yes that's what I meant, poor grammar on my part.
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Yesterday’s point made our play off position stronger with others slipping up. 3/4 points out of the next 2 will keep us ticking along. The play off teams won’t be the highest standard so we have every chance.
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Depending on who the new manager will be we either get the bounce or the Pardew effect.
The bounce and were in with a shout.
The Pardew and ...........Oh gawd :'(
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I dread us winning the playoffs, without a large investment of cash into the squad for next season, we will be cannon fodder in the Prem. what an enticing prospect for us supporters, watching our team struggling week in week out at the bottom of the league. The only reason the Club’s hierarchy want promotion is to assist Lai to recoup his over investment. I would rather, sad as it is to say it, we stay in the Championship until Lai decides to cut his losses and get out. The Albion will not be the Albion again until Lai is gone. I detest the man with a passion and would love there to be a campaign against him along the lines of the Blackpool protests.
LAI OUT
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I dread us winning the playoffs, without a large investment of cash into the squad for next season, we will be cannon fodder in the Prem. what an enticing prospect for us supporters, watching our team struggling week in week out at the bottom of the league. The only reason the Club’s hierarchy want promotion is to assist Lai to recoup his over investment. I would rather, sad as it is to say it, we stay in the Championship until Lai decides to cut his losses and get out. The Albion will not be the Albion again until Lai is gone. I detest the man with a passion and would love there to be a campaign against him along the lines of the Blackpool protests.
LAI OUT
There is no scenario where staying in this league any longer than necessary is a long term plus for the club. Maybe the fans will prefer to be in a league where we are winning games, but that will be a damn sight harder next year should we not get promoted and have to have some sort of fire sale.
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Think Villa will have a massive say in the run in.
They still have to play Boro, Forest, Bristol City, Leeds and Norwich.
Two of Leeds, Norwich and Shef United will take the automatics, leaving one in the playoffs.
You could hope we can maintain our position, leaving 2 spots left, one which I think will go to Boro.
Have a feeling Villa might take the other spot.
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We must be mathematically safe from relegation, so that's something at least.
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We really need to finish 4th to get the home advantage in the play-offs.
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We might do better if we offered to play both legs away!!
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Think Villa will have a massive say in the run in.
They still have to play Boro, Forest, Bristol City, Leeds and Norwich.
Two of Leeds, Norwich and Shef United will take the automatics, leaving one in the playoffs.
You could hope we can maintain our position, leaving 2 spots left, one which I think will go to Boro.
Have a feeling Villa might take the other spot.
Villa would need to win virtually every game. They've got no chance with or without Grealish.
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Villa would need to win virtually every game. They've got no chance with or without Grealish.
only 4 points behind derby now !
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only 4 points behind derby now !
There are 3 other teams as well as Derby who would need to do worse than Vile for the remainder of the season, they have virtually no margin for error and have probably the most difficult run in in the division.
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There are 3 other teams as well as Derby who would need to do worse than Vile for the remainder of the season, they have virtually no margin for error and have probably the most difficult run in in the division.
They are getting momentum, they have their Talisman back, its aligning for them, god I hope i am wrong!
Meanwhile Stoke are unbeaten in 5 Jacko !
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Its all becoming a complete farce almost like a Christmas pantomime. We are in some danger of dropping out of the race for play offs but with some sort of miracle still get automatic. Apart from the current top 3 who don't seem to be able to lose the rest don't seem to be able to win consistently so we are in that bracket and look set to stay that way.
The prospect of being in the PL next year scares me as we will just play not to lose every week and be fighting a relegation battle from day 1. Being where we are ought to bring a bit more in the way of competing and more wins than loses but essentially it's a business and those in charge see it as that. Sadly that means promotion at all costs with thought for us supporters at the bottom of the pile. Should the unexpected happen and we do actually go up who on earth would want to sign for us and where will be able to strengthen this team from. They've already proved that most of them aren't good enough so why are we surprised by our current demise?
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I dread us winning the playoffs, without a large investment of cash into the squad for next season, we will be cannon fodder in the Prem. what an enticing prospect for us supporters, watching our team struggling week in week out at the bottom of the league. The only reason the Club’s hierarchy want promotion is to assist Lai to recoup his over investment. I would rather, sad as it is to say it, we stay in the Championship until Lai decides to cut his losses and get out. The Albion will not be the Albion again until Lai is gone. I detest the man with a passion and would love there to be a campaign against him along the lines of the Blackpool protests.
LAI OUT
What's the point in supporting us then? Oh and I think you are missing the point about promotion.....if we get promoted then we get massive investment. Spending cash wasn't a problem for Lai before, the problem was the money was wasted on bad signings like Krychowiak, Sturridge, Burke etc.
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another term in the championship i am afraid
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another term in the championship i am afraid
Bristol city mess up again, 5 wins out of 10 should guarantee play offs.
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They are getting momentum, they have their Talisman back, its aligning for them, god I hope i am wrong!
Meanwhile Stoke are unbeaten in 5 Jacko !
Its quite possible that Villa will stand in our way in the play offs at some stage and with Grealish fit they're a different team, if they beat Boro at home this weekend they'll be on the charge.
Then theres the unlucky "loser" out of the runaway top 3.
Boro are the least of our worries
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Its quite possible that Villa will stand in our way in the play offs at some stage and with Grealish fit they're a different team, if they beat Boro at home this weekend they'll be on the charge.
Then theres the unlucky "loser" out of the runaway top 3.
Boro are the least of our worries
We've proved we have the players to beat the top teams on this division. Sensible tactics from here on in and we shouldn't worry about anybody.
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We've proved we have the players to beat the top teams on this division. Sensible tactics from here on in and we shouldn't worry about anybody.
Agree about the tactics, square pegs for square holes and all that.
Need to gain some momentum, and if last night is anything to go by lady luck might be on our side.
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After last night's results, I think we are probably coasting towards a play-off place now. I think it might be Preston and Villa joining us, as the others seem to have dropped off.
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booked two weeeks in Benidorm to hopefully celebrate our playoff success
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Villa would need to win virtually every game. They've got no chance with or without Grealish.
Before Grealish got injured they had been on a long unbeaten run and with his return their form has already turned around.
Personally I think they will comfortably finish in the top 6 and be the biggest threat to us in the play-offs, probably ending up playing us in the semi-final.
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They are getting momentum, they have their Talisman back, its aligning for them, god I hope i am wrong!
Meanwhile Stoke are unbeaten in 5 Jacko !
If Stoke had beaten Derby last night they would have only been 7 points off the play-offs, which shows just how tight this division is.
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i will have a glass of what hes drinking
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/977601652?-11200:789
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i will have a glass of what hes drinking
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/977601652?-11200:789
Like how the headline writer couldn't even believe what he said and just puts it down to us being in the play-offs.
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If we don't get automatic, what's the chances of wba v av in play offs?
Oh my gawd!
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If we don't get automatic, what's the chances of wba v av in play offs?
Oh my gawd!
I have conflicting thoughts about this prospect. Beating that lot at Wembley would take some beating, but to lose to them at Wembley would finish me off!
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If we don't get automatic, what's the chances of wba v av in play offs?
Oh my gawd!
My heart wouldn’t be able to take it.
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If we don't get automatic, what's the chances of wba v av in play offs?
Oh my gawd!
The odds of meeting Villa in the semis are quite long. The semis are 3rd v 6th and 4th v 5th. Villa are far from guaranteed to make it at all and the most likely spot they will get if they do is 6th and are extremely unlikely to make 3rd. At this point it looks unlikely we will make 3rd but are most likely to make 4th or 5th. If both of us make the play-offs then it is a 25% chance we both make the final.
Has there ever been a local derby as a play-off final?
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The odds of meeting Villa in the semis are quite long. The semis are 3rd v 6th and 4th v 5th. Villa are far from guaranteed to make it at all and the most likely spot they will get if they do is 6th and are extremely unlikely to make 3rd. At this point it looks unlikely we will make 3rd but are most likely to make 4th or 5th. If both of us make the play-offs then it is a 25% chance we both make the final.
Has there ever been a local derby as a play-off final?
Depends what you class as local I guess,
Leicester v Derby 94
Bolton v Preston 01
Palace v West Ham 04
I have conflicting thoughts about this prospect. Beating that lot at Wembley would take some beating, but to lose to them at Wembley would finish me off!
My preferred option would be to beat them over 2 legs and then beat Boro at Wembley in the same way we beat Port Vale after losing to them home and away in the league in 93.
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I really wish people would stop writing off the Vile's chances of making the play offs, it's tempting fate.
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I really wish people would stop writing off the Vile's chances of making the play offs, it's tempting fate.
Too right.
I was listening to live commentary of the vile at forest before switching off when our game was about to start and then was very issed off when putting back wm after the game to learn they'd won again.
I just Frank lampard's Derby sort their act out as I think only sixth position is up for grabs.
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We should be making sacrifice to the footballing gods tonight hoping that Sheffield Utd and Leeds share the points tomorrow, and that Rotherham are scrapping at the bottom manage to take something off Narwich
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We should be making sacrifice to the footballing gods tonight hoping that Sheffield Utd and Leeds share the points tomorrow, and that Rotherham are scrapping at the bottom manage to take something off Narwich
I'll sacrifice a chicken in their honour, off to boil an egg now ;) .
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Our aim must remain 91 points... 8)
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So if my maths is any good, if we beat the Blues we will be 4 points off second, though we will have played a game more. Automatic might not be over yet?
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Only way we get autos is if we win every game. Even then 91 points may not be enough.
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Only way we get autos is if we win every game. Even then 91 points may not be enough.
Not far off that yes, but Leeds and Sheff U both have some quite tricky games to come so I'm not giving up yet
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The play-offs are starting to look pretty tasty.
As it stands this morning we would play Middlesbrough.
If we beat them we would go to Wembley to play the winners of Villa v Leeds.
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Not far off that yes, but Leeds and Sheff U both have some quite tricky games to come so I'm not giving up yet
Leeds have some tricky games but Sheffield Utd have an easy run in.
Their fixtures are :
Bristol City (h),
Preston (a)
Birmingham (a)
Millwall (h)
Nott'm F (h)
Hull (a)
Ipswich (h)
Stoke (a)
The only tough one there is probably Preston all the others are easy enough wins for them.
With Norwich having a similar easy run in , I think its the play offs for us.
The danger of the play offs is Villa are the form team and i would rather not be in the play offs than lose to them.
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The play-offs are starting to look pretty tasty.
As it stands this morning we would play Middlesbrough.
If we beat them we would go to Wembley to play the winners of Villa v Leeds.
As you say, currently the dinosaur's lot are in the frame, but given form lines that will probably change.
I still see Bristol having a good play-off chance.
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As you say, currently the dinosaur's lot are in the frame, but given form lines that will probably change.
I still see Bristol having a good play-off chance.
Lots of twists yet - since when has the championship been easy to predict.
Three wins in a row and things look good - so often though it swings and two defeats change things.
Villa and Preston are on a great run - Bristol boro and derby have been poor, things may swing. Blues were looking ok before losing four on the bounce.
Even if we win the next two and close the gap, Leeds could then go on a winning run and end our chances.
A scenario I wouldn’t want is we run close to automatic and lose out at derby on the last day, go into the play offs on a downer and lose in them, to either Pulis or vile
Football !?!
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I think our one hope of catching Sheffield United is that the pressure starts to tell. Up until now the expectation hasn't been that they should go up and just being in the play-off's was good anything else was gravy. Now looking down the run in the expectations mount probably for the first time this season.
All we can do is keep on picking up wins and hope. My feeling is that Norwich will go on from here to win the League second place will be less than 90 points but not much 88/89 and that could as easily be Leeds as Sheffield United (that's a working definition of too close to call).
The play-off places are looking a bit more interesting than they were a few weeks ago. One thing that you need to keep in mind is that both Bristol City and Derby have games in hand and those are not scheduled to be played to the very last week of the season.
'Boro are on the slide which might open up 5th spot and Villa and Preston are hitting some form. Overall I think 72 points will be good enough to get 6th and everyone down to Swansea in 15th have a chance of hitting that number. Given that it would be a massive disappointment now if we failed to make the play-off's.
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It hasn't occurred to me all season that we might miss out on the play off's and it still doesn't. At the start of the season I predicted us to finish top six and it looks likely that for once I will be proved right. We have a handy cushion but that doesn't mean we should take anything for granted, things can change very quickly in football and at this stage of the season teams down the bottom start to scrap and pressure tells on some teams, no game is easy. That said we have experience in our squad and that should hold us in good stead on the run in.
The last two fixtures were massive with regard to our play off aim. Imagine if we'd lost both games or picked up only one point - but we didn't we won six points out of six and we really should pick up enough points to finish top six. If we don't it will go down as a disaster.
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We aren't going to overturn both Sheff Utd and Leeds.
If we had the same 7 points gap going into the final 5-6 weeks of the season but were sat in third place, there might be the outside chance that one of the top 2 might go through a blip and the pressure mounts. With 2 clubs there though, I can't see it. It is just too unlikley.
Our best hope is that the auto promotion race proves to emotionally draining to come back from for the eventual third place team.
Play offs are where we need to focus now. We need to prepare for them and find which system will work best. Experiment where needed.
I'm crossing my fingers that Boro drop out as they are such a bogey side, but the alternatives aren't great. This rejuvenated Villa side, with genuine premier league options in the side like Abraham, Grealish & McGinn are not just besting teams at the moment, but actually taking them apart. I hope it's only a hot streak, but with the players available to them and Smith's record as a manager thus far, they have to be a concern now.
If we couldnoverhaul the third place team in the final weeks of the season it would give us the psycological boost we really need.
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winning football matches is the only drug we need,don't care how really,we all know what points make don't we?
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Leeds have some tricky games but Sheffield Utd have an easy run in.
Their fixtures are :
Bristol City (h),
Preston (a)
Birmingham (a)
Millwall (h)
Nott'm F (h)
Hull (a)
Ipswich (h)
Stoke (a)
The only tough one there is probably Preston all the others are easy enough wins for them.
With Norwich having a similar easy run in , I think its the play offs for us.
The danger of the play offs is Villa are the form team and i would rather not be in the play offs than lose to them.
The homes games look easy enough, the aways less so maybe. Anyways, I hope we can keep in it for a few more weeks yet, just for the hell of it really.
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Only way we get autos is if we win every game. Even then 91 points may not be enough.
Not that I think we will win every game but the chances of not getting automatic promotion on 91 points would be a first
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Our current points / games ratio would put us finishing on 81 points.
To get to 91 needs us to finish the season at 100%, which isn't happening
I reckon we might get to @85 which would only be any good if SUFC only got 10 points from the 24 available to them.
We're done in short, we need to get the shrinks in and start gearing the players up for the pressure pot which is the play offs.
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We were 11 points behind the unwashed in 2002 at this same stage of the season (Mid March).
We then won 8 of the last 10 games and drew 2.
A similar feet is required again to stand any chance of automatic, plus we could do with a few hic-cups from the teams above
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We were 11 points behind the unwashed in 2002 at this same stage of the season (Mid March).
I guess the difference is then, we were chasing one team, now we are chasing two. Unlikely for both to go off the boil so badly.
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We do have the advantage that we are certain we will be in the playoffs, no other side can say that. Sheff Utd/Leeds are hoping for autos and the lower teams are scrapping for playoffs. Not sure how we can use that to our advantage, possibly by somehow getting in the right mindset for knockout football, practising penalties under pressure.
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We do have the advantage that we are certain we will be in the playoffs, no other side can say that. Sheff Utd/Leeds are hoping for autos and the lower teams are scrapping for playoffs. Not sure how we can use that to our advantage, possibly by somehow getting in the right mindset for knockout football, practising penalties under pressure.
And just going for wins, Bristol won about 9 on the trot, Hull did about 7 at one point, I ain't giving up yet!
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The Championship could be set to take a farcical twist that could prove to be a massive boost to West Brom.
https://thisisfutbol.com/2019/03/blogs/baggies-could-get-massive-automatic-promotion-boost/
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Would this make the opening day defeat a masterstroke by Darren? ;D ;)
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The Championship could be set to take a farcical twist that could prove to be a massive boost to West Brom.
https://thisisfutbol.com/2019/03/blogs/baggies-could-get-massive-automatic-promotion-boost/
Just seen this on Alan Nixon's twitter feed. Won't be holding my breath though.
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Table adjusted without points for playing against Bolton...
https://twitter.com/FootyAccums/status/1108032494316724229 (https://twitter.com/FootyAccums/status/1108032494316724229)
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Will be a points deduction if anything just like others have received
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Will be a points deduction if anything just like others have received
If they were going into administration then it would indeed be a points deduction. But liquidation as a result of a winding up order is completely different and will result in the club folding completely. (probably reborn i'm sure but in the lower leagues)
Think Rangers
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If they were going into administration then it would indeed be a points deduction. But liquidation as a result of a winding up order is completely different and will result in the club folding completely. (probably reborn i'm sure but in the lower leagues)
Think Rangers
Any lidquidation will happen in the close season - following administration
The football league will not risk its integrity being torn to shreds
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Any lidquidation will happen in the close season - following administration
The football league will not risk its integrity being torn to shreds
You’re wrong, the EFl have no part to play in a winding up order.
Bolton have a huge tax bill to pay, they either pay it tomorrow or get wound up as business which means they cease to exist.
There is a 3rd option that their owner proves he’s close to finding a buyer and it these circumstances business may be given a week to conclude a deal by the court.
The EFL are their usual useless self and are just sitting and hoping they find a buyer.
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Bolton being lidquidated during the middle of a season will not happen - they will not be able to cope with the backlash
It would not surprise me to see the football league loaning Bolton the money to pay the bill to ensure they are able to complete their fixture lists, and that the three clubs who get promoted do so on merit and not with the aid of results being scrapped from the records
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There is zero chance of Bolton paying the Revenue nor putting a plan in place that would satisfy them. So either they are liquidated or put into administration. For administration to work there has to be some prospect of the club coming to some sort of arrangement with it's creditors and being run as a going concern.
If this was anything other than a football club it would almost certainly be liquidated. It seems to have no cash cannot pay it's staff and it cannot be sold as a going concern what is an administrator supposed to do with that? Football clubs never seem to die maybe this will be the exception. For the rest of football to come to it's collective senses maybe one needs to die feel sorry that it's Bolton Wanderers but this sad day has been coming for a long while.
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Bolton being lidquidated during the middle of a season will not happen - they will not be able to cope with the backlash
It would not surprise me to see the football league loaning Bolton the money to pay the bill to ensure they are able to complete their fixture lists, and that the three clubs who get promoted do so on merit and not with the aid of results being scrapped from the records
They'll cobble something together, and I wouldn't want to go up that anyway
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They'll cobble something together, and I wouldn't want to go up that anyway
Me neither.
Imagine if your club ended up being relegated because a team was wiped out the division...
The holding company being liquidated throughout the middle of the season cannot happen.
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Any lidquidation will happen in the close season - following administration
The football league will not risk its integrity being torn to shreds
Oh Liam, Oh Liam, since when has the concept of integrity ever been anywhere near those running professional football? I truly wish my own levels of cynicism were on a par with theirs and then I might be able to watch the goings on in the prem, in the efl and at WBA with a little less pain and a bit more amusement.
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Oh Liam, Oh Liam, since when has the concept of integrity ever been anywhere near those running professional football? I truly wish my own levels of cynicism were on a par with theirs and then I might be able to watch the goings on in the prem, in the efl and at WBA with a little less pain and a bit more amusement.
I think when Liam says "integrity" he is referring to the "false veneer of integrity", No-one (repeat no-one) can believe the football authorities act out of integrity.
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Bolton Wanderers hearing postponed for two weeks:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/47641126
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Race for second - Looking at the fixtures I think we have a small chance of second if we win all our games which puts us on 91 points. Here are sheff u and Leeds fixtures for the rest of the season:
Sheff U - 74
Bristol City (H) - 3
Preston (A) - 1
Blues (A) - 3
Millwall (H) - 3
Forest (H) - 1
Hull (A) - 1
Ipswich (H) - 3
Stoke (A) - 1
Total - 90 points
Leeds - 73
Millwall (H) - 3
Birmingham (A) - 1
Preston (A) - 1
Sheff Wednesday (H) - 3
Wigan (H) - 3
Brentford (A) - 1
Villa (H) - 1
Ipswich (A) - 3
Total - 89 points
Anyone else optimistic? ;D
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It's likely that one of Sheff Utd or Leeds will have a wobble before the end of the season and perhaps lose two or three on the bounce, but pretty unlikely it will happen to both.
All we can do is keep winning and put the pressure on - and at least then we will go into the play-offs in a positive frame of mind.
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We might be able to afford to lose 1 or draw 2, but I can't see both of them above us losing it. Leeds are more likely to get the yips, I'd say, apart from against us they've looked very nervy
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I'm not even going to think about the automatics. There is no way TWO sides, whi have been brilliant all season will stutter at the end of the season, and even if they did, I don't think we would have enough about us to take advantage of the slip up.
We are safe in the playoffs - nobody is going to catch us now. We need to spend the final games of the season working out our best side and system - something we have failed to do so far.
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I'm not even going to think about the automatics. There is no way TWO sides, whi have been brilliant all season will stutter at the end of the season, and even if they did, I don't think we would have enough about us to take advantage of the slip up.
We are safe in the playoffs - nobody is going to catch us now. We need to spend the final games of the season working out our best side and system - something we have failed to do so far.
Bang on need to fathom out best system and team. However if we took max points to the end of the season we might steal the last automatic spot.
Norwich are up
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I'm not even going to think about the automatics. There is no way TWO sides, whi have been brilliant all season will stutter at the end of the season, and even if they did, I don't think we would have enough about us to take advantage of the slip up.
We are safe in the playoffs - nobody is going to catch us now. We need to spend the final games of the season working out our best side and system - something we have failed to do so far.
With all due respect I disagree, I'd rather we just went for it, Sheff U have slipped up now, so lets just treat every game as a cup final.
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With all due respect I disagree, I'd rather we just went for it, Sheff U have slipped up now, so lets just treat every game as a cup final.
Yep. Agree totally, now is not the time for experimentation.
Just keep trying to grind out the wins, it won't be pretty, but it's all about results now.
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We have 3 objectives. 1. Lock up a play-off spot. 2. If possible chase down an automatic promotion place. 3. Win the play-offs
In the short term both 1 & 2 are compatable it is simple win the next game.
Getting into the play-offs is entirely within our control because we can get 81 points which is one more point than is necessary to make certain of 6th (congratulations to Norwich for locking up 6th place by the way). However in practice two more wins will probably suffice.
Automatic promotion requires a near 100% win rate from us and both Leeds and Sheffield United to stumble in truth if the gap hasn't closed across the next 3 games then our race is done. At that point the play-offs become the focus. That means keeping the squad fresh and healthy. In truth it doesn't matter where we finish in the top 6 the prize is the same and it doesn't matter which sequence of opponents we have and trying to game that is more trouble than it's worth.
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We have 3 objectives. 1. Lock up a play-off spot. 2. If possible chase down an automatic promotion place. 3. Win the play-offs
In the short term both 1 & 2 are compatable it is simple win the next game.
Getting into the play-offs is entirely within our control because we can get 81 points which is one more point than is necessary to make certain of 6th (congratulations to Norwich for locking up 6th place by the way). However in practice two more wins will probably suffice.
Automatic promotion requires a near 100% win rate from us and both Leeds and Sheffield United to stumble in truth if the gap hasn't closed across the next 3 games then our race is done. At that point the play-offs become the focus. That means keeping the squad fresh and healthy. In truth it doesn't matter where we finish in the top 6 the prize is the same and it doesn't matter which sequence of opponents we have and trying to game that is more trouble than it's worth.
I'd say number one is a racing certainty, all the teams in 6/7/8/9 would have to go mental to overtake us and they must be playing each other a few times so they can't all go on massive winning streaks - does take the pressure off a bit. GD could be very interesting if it gets close.
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If we win all our games, it does not require a monumental slip up from Leeds and Sheff Utd, Leeds need to lose 2 and Sheff lose 1 and draw 1. Weirdly both of their next 2 games are Blues and Preston away, which are very much lose-able.
The difficult bit is us winning all of ours but we've somehow managed to win the last 3, despite playing pretty awfully, so, if we can improve and settle a bit, why not?
Just go for it, I say! ;)
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If we win all our games, it does not require a monumental slip up from Leeds and Sheff Utd, Leeds need to lose 2 and Sheff lose 1 and draw 1. Weirdly both of their next 2 games are Blues and Preston away, which are very much lose-able.
The difficult bit is us winning all of ours but we've somehow managed to win the last 3, despite playing pretty awfully, so, if we can improve and settle a bit, why not?
Just go for it, I say! ;)
Exactly, just keep winning and see where it takes us. We were out of it a few years back when the dog heads blew up in dramatic fashion.
Leeds have a history of tailing off towards the end of the season and they all have to play losable games.
If you look back we've thrown some really daft points away that would have seen us clear in this division.
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We just need to ignore other results and keep winning the next match. If we win them all, we'll go up the auto route.
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You know what's going to happen don't you? Albion v Villa in the play offs and when it really matters, when it's really important the fkrs will turn us over.
It's inevitable, written in the stars.
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You know what's going to happen don't you? Albion v Villa in the play offs and when it really matters, when it's really important the fkrs will turn us over.
It's inevitable, written in the stars.
I said the same thing to my dad yesterday. That would be typical Albion.
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You know what's going to happen don't you? Albion v Villa in the play offs and when it really matters, when it's really important the fkrs will turn us over.
It's inevitable, written in the stars.
We have taken 4 points off them this season, no need to fear them. They are a different animal with Grealish and he is probably the best player in the division at this moment in time but, if he gets injured, they are beyond ordinary.
The best way to go up would be to tonk them at Wembley.
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Just did a predictor for the remainder of the season, trying to be quite realistic, had us to drop points against Bristol City and Preston, has us finishing 4th.
Norwich champions, Sheff United 2nd. Leeds, us, Boro and Vile completing the play offs.
I think Shef United have the 'easier' run in out of them and Leeds.
I also find it quite funny how Blues and Villa could have a say in us grabbing a top 2 spot. Villa have to play Norwich and Leeds, while Blues have to play Leeds and Sheff united in their next 2 games.
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We have taken 4 points off them this season, no need to fear them. They are a different animal with Grealish and he is probably the best player in the division at this moment in time but, if he gets injured, they are beyond ordinary.
The best way to go up would be to tonk them at Wembley.
Makes no difference. When there's something major at stake they will see us off, you mark my words.
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The thought of Vile in playoff final is double edged for me, maybe it shows how starved of success as an Albion fan I am, but to beat that lot at Wembley would surpass anything I have experienced as an Albion fan. But to lose to them, would be beyond unbearable.
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The thought of Vile in playoff final is double edged for me, maybe it shows how starved of success as an Albion fan I am, but to beat that lot at Wembley would surpass anything I have experienced as an Albion fan. But to lose to them, would be beyond unbearable.
Can you imagine the journey back from Wembley if we lost to Villa :o :o
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Can you imagine the journey back from Wembley if we lost to Villa :o :o
Conversely :D
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Playing Villa over two legs would be terrible for both teams, it would be so intense and brutal that the winner would have nothing left in the tank for Wembley and would likely get picked of by Sheff U/ Leeds/ Derby whoever
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The promotion picture would have looked so different if we had beat Ipswich at home.
Playing a team struggling badly at the bottom of the league , we should have won.
Those 2 points added on to what we have now would put us in such a strong position.
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I feel the next 2 games will determine if we can sneak into 2nd.
We have Millwall and Bristol City.
Leeds and Sheff United have both got to go to Blues, and both play Preston.
If we can come out of our games with 6 points, and Preston or Blues can do us a favour somewhere, we could close the gap and put some real pressure on both of those teams.
Knowing the Albion though, we will probably drop points the same time one of Leeds/Sheff do.
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Can't believe how badly we've messed this up. A month ago we were interviewing Jokanovic and I had a bit of hope about the future direction of the club. Now we're going to hobble into the playoffs as potentially the worst team to ever play in them under a bloke who came in to manage the under 7's.
Jenkins you utter bellend.
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Villa are going up, you can absolutely guarantee it and to be fair to them they deserve too. Since they've had their big players back they look a different team.
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Can't believe how badly we've messed this up. A month ago we were interviewing Jokanovic and I had a bit of hope about the future direction of the club. Now we're going to hobble into the playoffs as potentially the worst team to ever play in them under a bloke who came in to manage the under 7's.
As I said earlier.
He ought to stand in the middle of the pitch and publicly apologise to all Albion fans.
Instead, he will just hide behind his desk in his ivory tower with a blank look on his face.
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Villa are going up, you can absolutely guarantee it and to be fair to them they deserve too. Since they've had their big players back they look a different team.
What do you mean they deserve to? they have not guaranteed the play-offs yet. They have been trailing behind us all season and are still seven points behind.
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What do you mean they deserve to? they have not guaranteed the play-offs yet. They have been trailing behind us all season and are still seven points behind.
They are a better team than us one to eleven. If we still had Barnes, maybe not but without him, they are.
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Villa are going up, you can absolutely guarantee it and to be fair to them they deserve too. Since they've had their big players back they look a different team.
I have some soap for that potty mouth. :P
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They are a better team than us one to eleven. If we still had Barnes, maybe not but without him, they are.
Depends on who's in form in the run in to the Play Offs. Today, you'd have to say Villa, but that can change in a few games time. Depends also on whether key players are injured.
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We are not nailed on certs for the play offs yet. I think we still need 2 more wins.
The next two matches at Bristol City and home to Preston are crucial for us. If we lose both or even lose to Bristol and draw at home to Preston we will have 71 pts.
Villa have to play Rotherham away and Bristol City at home .They could get 6 pts there which puts them on 69 pts.
Bristol City would be on 65 pts with a game in hand.
Derby have to play Blackburn away and Bolton at home. Again potential 6 pts there which gives them 66pts with a game in hand and we have to play them last match of the season.
So we could still be in a battle for a place in the play offs with 4 matches to go.