[dangerman]

Malouda's wages would be well out of our reach.
Ince definitely should be a target right now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Big Sam come in for PO as well as Fulham and Wigan. Maybe Southampton as well who have just lost out on Coutinho. Reading aren't short of cash either. A bidding war would be very interesting indeed.

In principle I agree.

However, none of the above are that desperate for a striker. A striker who lost it on twitter last night. We"ll be lucky to get £2 mill for him this window, which is why I think we'll wait until the summer to get rid.

[Standaman]

Can't agree with you mate, if we take off the blue and white specs and the love of the club we'd all behave in the same way if it was the ONLY way of securing the move.

Sorry, no Blue & White specs just 25 years of working with contract law. The reason disputes between clubs never end in court is generally speaking settlements in terms of fees are greater than what could be obtained through breach of contract proceedings. QPR's current reported bid of £2m is one of the few situations where this would not be the case. If Odemwingie forces a move for less than £3m the club should sue him,his agent, QPR and Harry Redknapp for the difference.

Football is not competely divorced from the real world and contract law does apply as the few clubs that have tried to wriggle out of them have found to their cost.

   

[overseas baggie]

In principle I agree.

However, none of the above are that desperate for a striker. A striker who lost it on twitter last night. We"ll be lucky to get £2 mill for him this window, which is why I think we'll wait until the summer to get rid.

Wigan, West Ham and Reading look pretty short of strikers at the moment with anything like PO's scoring record.  Wigan have expressed interest before. West Ham seem happy to spend and are in freefall. Just needs one of them to enter the bidding war with QPR...

[VANDERLEI]

As he said it leaves him with nothing in hand. There is only a mega rich club in dire straights with a manager willing to break the bank NOW, in the summer he is back to square one if we don't offer him an improved contract, it smacks of small-time from Albion to me.

We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?

Sadly we are dealing in the insane world of football mate.

PO is worth what Jeremy Peace says he is worth while under contract to WBA. I'm not worried about him going on the cheap. If anything, we'll inflate the price now due to the public nature which QPR and PO have gone about this. I can't believe that anyone can have any sympathy with any overpaid brat that throws his dummy out the pram when he doesn't get his own way.

[OldburyWBA]

Jacko, I'm sorry if I don't share your sentiment or sympathy for a bloke struggling on £40k a week and that he could get more elsewhere. Yes its a short career and everyone wants to earn as much as possible but thats a case of tough luck basically. He is extremely well paid and in a position that we all dream about.

He had the choice of signing his current deal or not signing and he would have been elsewhere by now, he chose to sign it.

He is extremely fortunate that at 33 years old when his current deal ends (if he is still here which he won't be) that he will not have to work again and will never have to worry about the next bill coming through the door or having to pay his mortgage.

When ex-players are having to sell their medals and memories to pay their bills and keep going to see a bloke like Pete acting like this is just disgraceful and for me personally cannot be defended. 

[TheJacko2000]

Jacko, I'm sorry if I don't share your sentiment or sympathy for a bloke struggling on £40k a week and that he could get more elsewhere. Yes its a short career and everyone wants to earn as much as possible but thats a case of tough luck basically. He is extremely well paid and in a position that we all dream about.

He had the choice of signing his current deal or not signing and he would have been elsewhere by now, he chose to sign it.

He is extremely fortunate that at 33 years old when his current deal ends (if he is still here which he won't be) that he will not have to work again and will never have to worry about the next bill coming through the door or having to pay his mortgage.

When ex-players are having to sell their medals and memories to pay their bills and keep going to see a bloke like Pete acting like this is just disgraceful and for me personally cannot be defended.

It's because of this Odemwingie is acting like he is. Everyone always tries to put a real world feel on things like this so lets spin it around. Imagine being a top medical or financial specialist earning £500,000 a year from the age of 24/25 when they leave university to the age of 33 when through no fault of their own they find themselves out of work. For one reason or another they fail to find a new job and are on employment benefit for the next 30 years before retirement.

How would their lives be impacted, and as much has we dislike the idea how would the way of life they have become accustomed to be affected?

We are very idealistic as football fans, these people are not super heroes, they're fallible and human and I can say hand on heart if I was Peter Odemwingie and it was the only way to get the move I'd do exactly the same thing as him (assuming I'm not an Albion fan of course).

[baggieheart]

But surely the way to leave a club is like Greening.

Fulham came in we rejected, he gave his reasons on why he wanted to go, got his head down and the deal was done when Fulham came upto valuation.

Pete wants to go for more money than fine by me, I think QPR is an odd choice but hey it is upto him. However he is our asset and if a player wants to go I expect we will do more to grant his wish, but we do not have to give him away.

[OldburyWBA]

No, i'm talking about the likes of Tommy Smith, at the top of their game for how many years ? won how many medals ?

Pete is fortunate he is playing now and not then.

Anyone who lives their life thinking if they did this they could have earned so much etc needs to concentrate on the here and now. He is extremely fortunate to live the lifestyle he is and have the money he has. I don't have any sympathy for anyone who cannot set themselves up for life on £2m a year. To go on he needs more to secure his financial future is just pure greed and if he doesn't have the money to secure the future then its bad money management and/ or bad advice.

Worst case scenario for him - At the end of his current deal in 2014 he will be free to go where he wants, no club will have to pay a fee and so more money can be used as a signing on fee to get his services.

I can excuse many things in life but greed and selfish attitudes especially because of that greed is not one of them .

[wdbroun]

Jacko, I'm sorry if I don't share your sentiment or sympathy for a bloke struggling on £40k a week and that he could get more elsewhere. Yes its a short career ...

Short or not, it's not like his time at WBA is the only money-earning moment in his life. There are many options open to former footballers if they play their cards right. It's a big worldwide industry. And that doesn't even count the investment possibilities open to someone earning £40K a week.

[GrGr]

But surely the way to leave a club is like Greening.

Fulham came in we rejected, he gave his reasons on why he wanted to go, got his head down and the deal was done when Fulham came upto valuation.

Pete wants to go for more money than fine by me, I think QPR is an odd choice but hey it is upto him. However he is our asset and if a player wants to go I expect we will do more to grant his wish, but we do not have to give him away.

Agreed. The really fishy thing here, obviously PO's mental breakdown apart, is QPR's under hand behaviour. If they really are interested then pony up. They have the money and they know full well the worth of PO. I would add a million to PO's price if he were to go to QPR because of their disrespect.

[east-stand-nick]

We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?

Why sign the contract in the first place then?!

If there were a host of club lining up with better wages when he signed his contract and he said "they're offering better, I'm joining them", I would be fine with that. But NOBODY forced him to sign a contract where it explicitly said how much he was going to be paid. You make it seem as if his wages have suddenly decreased.

The "man" (I use that term loosely) is a disgrace and I hope he never pulls on an Albion shirt again. I am dumbfounded at how anyone can defend him.

[Mat15(MH)]

I kind of see what Jacko is getting at.

In the grand scheme of things, in terms of ability and track record, he would be on more than 40k a week at other clubs in the league(Not that this is a pittance by any means!!!!!)

Unfortunately for him and now for us, with us losing one of our best players, is that the club has a wage structure and do not have the financial banking of a club like QPR. I'm sure as a club we'd have loved to offered him an increase after another relatively successful season last year, but quite simply we can't really go higher thank 40k a week without ruining the club with players of a similar stature coming to the club then asking for a pay rise.

He's not an Albion fan which means he doesn't see the fuss in wanting to double his money in the latter years of his career. It was up to that point I had, in a way, sympathy with him...

However I can't help but feel a slight disdain towards him now which is a shame with all the performances he has put in. However his statement and then the tweets last night were absolutely farcical, some things are best left unsaid and to me, he has well and truly burned his bridges. I know some are willing to look past that and just concentrate on what he's done for us, but I am afraid I just can't do that and it seems like the majority of fans can't either.

[baggieheart]

Possibly correct in that we have had a bargain with £40k however I do not believe Odemwingie has put in enough performances this season to warrant a pay rise.

[OldburyWBA]

Then if he had that much faith in his ability he would have turned his contract down and waited for a bigger club to come along and pay him what he thinks he is worth. He chose to sign the deal which gives him £40k a week

If he wants to go and play for that 'respected manager' and get his fifty pieces of silver then he has to get that club to stump up what we want for him, after all if he is worth the money they are reportedly offering him (which he obviously doesn't actually know because he hasn't had permission to talk to them  ) then they will know that the fee will be higher than their offer.

[TheJacko2000]

Possibly correct in that we have had a bargain with £40k however I do not believe Odemwingie has put in enough performances this season to warrant a pay rise.

Yet from midfield he has as many goals as Long, a player many on here believe we should hold onto at all costs and build a side around, some quoting £15 million in a recent transfer thread.

[Aztech]

Yet from midfield he has as many goals as Long, a player many on here believe we should hold onto at all costs and build a side around, some quoting £15 million in a recent transfer thread.

Your comments are always very selective, you seem to think Odemwingie is to good for little old Albion.

What next, Brunt, Olsson, Mulumbu and Yacob demand an improved contract, I have no doubt you would say they deserve better.

The likes of Dorrans demands a move and use the same tactics as Odemwngie, would you support him?

No one player is bigger than the club, back down to Odemwingie and we could have a major problem on our hands.

[The Black Pearl]

Yet from midfield he has as many goals as Long, a player many on here believe we should hold onto at all costs and build a side around, some quoting £15 million in a recent transfer thread.

You make a valid point, but you are disregarding the early season form of Long and his overall team contribution.

Odemwingie has deleted some of his twitter posts, even he knows he has gone way over the top, perhaps he is detecting back tracking from QPR, now that would be funny.

[Aixelsyd]

and look what a "Great" owner QPR have.... and this is where PO is so desperate to play..


if it gets too hard, then quit

Premier League - Fernandes admits he could leave Rangers
Chairman Tony Fernandes has said he will leave QPR if he cannot turn around the Premier League strugglers



QPR are rooted to the foot of the table, five points adrift of safety, and were knocked out of the FA Cup following an embarrassing 4-2 home defeat to npower League One side MK Dons on Saturday.

Fernandes, who took over in August 2011, remains determined to get the west Londoners on the right track, but says if he cannot, he will step down.

The Malaysian businessman said on his Twitter account: "Attendance was great. Thanks to fans Everything worked. We will fix It. I'm still optimistic.

"Many fans attacking me. Doing our best. As I said we won't stop trying. As I have said many times I take all responsibility and will face the music.

"Always spirit up. If can't fix it I will be first to go."

Fernandes took over at QPR following their promotion to the top flight and has presided over three different managers during his time at the helm.

Neil Warnock was sacked last January and replaced by Mark Hughes, who was dismissed in November with Harry Redknapp named as his successor.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-fernandes-admits-leave-rangers-163103193.html

[GrGr]

"According to his wiki page Fernandes' personal wealth is only $470 million. No way he can afford a yearly £30 to 50 million loss in wages or whatever QPR's losses will be (just thinking of the £50 million losses Villa had that forced even a billionaire like Randy Lerner to throw in the towel and start a drastic cutting operation)." [quoting myself from earlier in the thread]

[tuamigos]

Pete can delete all those tweets if he wants. The Birmingham mail has them all logged
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-striker-peter-1245995

[AlbionBest]

Don't accept it because we didn't want to sell him would be the obvious answer. If we have a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the Summer then why accept a request now ?

Spot on.

Why would we sell one of our best players to a tinpot club like QPR ?   Aren't we trying to improve the squad rather than weaken it ??

[AlbionBest]

I see from the Daily Mail online that Fernandes is now saying he will walk away from QPR if he can't turn them around.   Never mind that he will have committed them to paying huge wages for years to come to a bunch of mercenaries.

This has "Portsmouth mark 2" written all over it.  And one common denominator - Harry Redknapp, yes the same Harry Redknapp who said after replacing Hughes that a club with average gates of 18,000 should not be paying big wages to players and that he didn't like to see club owners raped like that (or words to that effect).

QPR and Redknapp - you deserve each other.  Odemwingie - you will fit in there very well amongst the other mercenaries.

Love it if they went all Portsmouth !   Arry would be well gone by then and come our of it smelling of roses as usual.
Brace yourself for a week of hell with Arry playing the media non-stop as usual when the window closes.

[Dan]

TheJacko, how comes in the Olsson thread you said this:

I think Peace would be severely tested by a bid of seven million. Would say a lot about Olsson imo if he went there.

About Olsson going there, and yet in this case you believe its perfectly reasonable for Odemwingie to not only want to go there, but use any tactics necessary? He's not a slave, he signed a 40k a year contract (and this nonsense about finding himself out of work, he'll earn at least 3m by the end of his contract and still be able to command a big wage if he leaves on a free next year), no one forced him too.

He could just as well have done what Gera did and let his contract run down, instead of deciding to have his cake and eat it by signing a new contract and still expectign he be released from it whenever he wants regardless of the transfer fee. I mean how can you go on about him being such a good player, and then defend his tactics when the fee offered was 2m?

[TheJacko2000]

TheJacko, how comes in the Olsson thread you said this:

About Olsson going there, and yet in this case you believe its perfectly reasonable for Odemwingie to not only want to go there, but use any tactics necessary? He's not a slave, he signed a 40k a year contract (and this nonsense about finding himself out of work, he'll earn at least 3m by the end of his contract and still be able to command a big wage if he leaves on a free next year), no one forced him too.

He could just as well have done what Gera did and let his contract run down, instead of deciding to have his cake and eat it by signing a new contract and still expectign he be released from it whenever he wants regardless of the transfer fee. I mean how can you go on about him being such a good player, and then defend his tactics when the fee offered was 2m?

I haven't once said he should be allowed to leave for two million but hey ho.

Re Olsson, he has constantly stated he would not leave unless it was to play at a higher level, hence my post. The same does not apply to Peter Odemwingie so I have no idea why you have quoted that.

[Dan]

No but you said you would do the same in his position which would be completely illogical unless you believe it to be a fair fee that the club is unfairly rejecting, as Odemwingie apparently does. Otherwise why such a strop over a rejected bid that's clearly never going to be accepted (Or for that matter, in the region of what would be accepted).