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« Reply #1575 on: May 05, 2022, 05:12:20 PM »
Pwease be true, no idea if EFL Hub are reliable at all.

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« Reply #1576 on: May 05, 2022, 05:17:56 PM »
Here's hoping.

Could be a Xmas come early.

Logistics won't be an issue but what wage can they offer?

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« Reply #1577 on: May 05, 2022, 05:19:12 PM »
Could be a Xmas come early.

Logistics won't be an issue but what wage can they offer?

It won't happen, why would he take a large wage cut to move to Coventry? Stuck with him.

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« Reply #1578 on: May 05, 2022, 05:20:48 PM »
It won't happen, why would he take a large wage cut to move to Coventry? Stuck with him.

You are more than likely right but this gives a tiny glimmer of hope and under Lai that's all we have.

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« Reply #1579 on: May 05, 2022, 05:24:20 PM »
It won't happen, why would he take a large wage cut to move to Coventry? Stuck with him.

I can’t see it either, if he had a year left perhaps something could be done to make it work such as a sweetener from us, and a longer term contract from Cov.  With two years left I think it’s a non starter.

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« Reply #1580 on: May 05, 2022, 05:36:13 PM »
We signed Reach on a 3 year deal…anything can happen!
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« Reply #1581 on: May 05, 2022, 05:46:02 PM »
We signed Reach on a 3 year deal…anything can happen!

We're stupid.  Coventry City do not appear to be at this moment in time!
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« Reply #1582 on: May 05, 2022, 06:17:43 PM »
Did we really sign Reach on a three year? That's just depressing. But then we did give Matty a new contract in the same window. What are they drinking at the club?

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« Reply #1583 on: June 02, 2022, 12:12:55 PM »
Incredible optimism shown by The Athletic. He only ever plays a third of a season well.  Maybe that's why 'the board' gave him 3 years for no reason to try and get 1 good full season out of him but it doesn't work like that guys.


"In the endless conversations concerning a new-look West Bromwich Albion, one man’s name has been barely mentioned.

The player in question has made 229 Championship appearances, won two promotions to the Premier League, played 142 times in that division, scoring 13 goals, and has won 16 international caps.

He has also contributed 26 goals and 27 assists, according to FBref.com, in six seasons with West Brom.

And yet Matt Phillips rarely gets considered when the supporters look ahead to what they hope will be a brighter, more exciting future under Steve Bruce.

There are good reasons, though, why Phillips has become a forgotten figure in the chat about the summer rebuild that’s coming at The Hawthorns after early-season hope of an instant return to the Premier League fizzled out into a mid-season change of manager and a 10th place finish, with the club’s lowest second-tier points total since they were almost relegated in the first months of this century.

Having turned 31 in March, there is a sense that the Scotland international is past the prime years of his career.

His tallies of 18 starts and 1,560 minutes in the Championship last season were the lowest of his Albion career on both counts, and Phillips’ total of five goal involvements in the league — three goals and two assists — was the lowest by far for any of his three seasons in the second division with West Brom, with his 11 in 2018-19 the next worst.

Phillips’ 2021-22 season had a familiar pattern: a strong start followed by a slight drop in form and then an injury from which he never fully recovered, before the campaign ended in anti-climax. And as West Brom fans look for signs of the club cutting ties with their less-than-glorious recent past, he is undoubtedly one of the players most would be content to see move on this summer. Phillips is perceived as a senior figure in a squad that has gone stale and needs breaking up.

Rightly or wrongly, he is viewed by many fans as a part of the problem, not the solution.

The reality, though, is that Phillips will probably be a West Brom player again next season. He signed a contract extension early in Valerien Ismael’s reign last summer that ties him to the club until the summer of 2024.

Phillips is among Albion’s higher earners, having come to the club at the peak of his career six years ago. And as then-manager Tony Pulis’ side were about to embark on a seventh consecutive season in the Premier League, his wages reflect his status at the time as a top-flight player.

And with an injury record that shows he has at least one lengthy absence each season, finding a club willing to take him on loan, on terms attractive to Albion, will be far from easy.

Phillips has averaged 23 starts and 2,029 minutes per league season in his six years with Albion, which have been split equally between the top two divisions. The appearance statistics are underwhelming, but when he does play Phillips tends to make an impact at Championship level.

Bruce was clearly frustrated at the amount of time Phillips, who won his last Scotland cap in September 2019, took to recover from a foot injury he sustained ahead of his first game in charge away to Sheffield United on February 9.

Phillips did not play under Bruce until April 15, by which time West Brom’s season was effectively dead. Even when the former Wycombe Wanderers youngster finally returned, it was clear that Bruce was impressed with what he saw from a player still spoken about by current and former team-mates as one of the best outside the Premier League.

Across his seven seasons in the Championship with Blackpool, QPR and Albion, Phillips averages 0.20 goals and 0.16 assists per 90 minutes — a handy ratio for a player not regarded as an out-and-out centre-forward.

Ismael did attempt to turn him into one of those last season, believing his pace, physicality and sure finishing made him a solid option to lead the line for a side playing the blood-and-thunder tactics that had taken his unfancied Barnsley team to the Championship play-offs months earlier. The plan did not work out, but it is easy to see why the Frenchman thought it might.

At 6ft tall, Phillips is built like a Premier League-level athlete and his goalscoring instincts have always been good. He has served Albion well and his personality, while a bit on the quiet side, is not one that would cause any manager concerns about problems in the dressing room.

The biggest challenges for Bruce, as his predecessors have found, will be managing Phillips’ body and his mind — Pulis once said of Phillips that his toughest opponent was often himself, given his tendency for self-doubt.

If Bruce gets the signings he wants over the line this summer, Phillips will not be an automatic starter next season, even when fit. Jed Wallace, one of Bruce’s main targets, plays in his preferred wide-right role. Should the man leaving Millwall this month as a free agent take his talents somewhere other than The Hawthorns, Bruce will look for alternatives at that position.

But Phillips has done jobs at wing-back and in central midfield, as well as in his favoured spot and, even as his career enters its latter stages, he knows his way around the Championship.

Phillips’ best years may be behind him but as part of a new-look, refreshed Albion squad, he might still have a role to play."

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« Reply #1584 on: June 02, 2022, 12:32:42 PM »
Poor attempt to put a positive spin on Batty. Pretty much everyone on here agrees that giving him another 3 years was a truly awful decision. A waste of a (high) wage.

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« Reply #1585 on: June 02, 2022, 01:01:07 PM »
Arguably the worse transfer decision last season was giving him a new 3 year deal, I'd love to see what the logic was for that move.

The fact is Phillips last had a decent run of form the first part of the 19/20 season - 18 months before his contract renewal. Even then Phillips has never shown himself to be more than a good rather than great player at this level even when on form. Now he's lost his pace he's in terminal decline, given his injury issues, prolonged lack of form, age.....just who made that decision and why would be really interesting to know.

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« Reply #1586 on: June 02, 2022, 05:29:05 PM »
He's one of the players we most need to move on, yet he'll be here and starting in August.

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« Reply #1587 on: June 02, 2022, 06:50:01 PM »
One of the first names I'd look to get rid of. To injury prone and at 31 is past his best and to go along with that will be one of the top earners.

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« Reply #1588 on: June 02, 2022, 10:44:33 PM »
There is also the myth that he has a few games a year where he is unplayable…. Not anymore he doesn’t. Such a poor and lazy decision to hand him the extended contract.

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« Reply #1589 on: June 03, 2022, 09:02:12 AM »
I agree that he will as  with all of our overpaid Pre Madonna’s still be at club next season as there will be no one stupid enough to sign any of them.

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« Reply #1590 on: June 03, 2022, 02:05:46 PM »
We have much worse players on our books than Phillips. I'd go so far as to say, in many games he has looked our best forward. He is one of our few players who can dribble past an opponent. The only other player who can dribble a bit is Dianga, but with wingers its often the case that they lose confidence if what they try doesn't come off. We need more players who take risks and show a bit of flair.
I'm not saying Phillips should be an automatic starter, but he is a good option to change things around from the bench.   
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« Reply #1591 on: June 03, 2022, 02:33:12 PM »
We have much worse players on our books than Phillips. I'd go so far as to say, in many games he has looked our best forward. He is one of our few players who can dribble past an opponent. The only other player who can dribble a bit is Dianga, but with wingers its often the case that they lose confidence if what they try doesn't come off. We need more players who take risks and show a bit of flair.
I'm not saying Phillips should be an automatic starter, but he is a good option to change things around from the bench.

I definitely agree with this and last season he was our only player on the entire pitch who could run and carry the ball up the field. However, a 3 year deal is insanity. Perhaps a 1.5 year at most with clauses in the clubs favour but remember he's in the age of decline. Anyway, it's done now so hopefully he stays fit.

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« Reply #1592 on: June 05, 2022, 05:13:23 AM »
If anyone needs another example of just how badly we are run, look no further than this straight 3 year extension for an injury prone player, who is well past his best and over 30.

He should nor have got any extension, but if he had to it should have been a one year with an option of another year in our favour.

The agents are having a field day with lack football knowledge at the top of the club.

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« Reply #1593 on: June 05, 2022, 10:15:21 AM »
Ultimately, he is going to be here next season thanks to ridiculous decisions by our club, so Bruce will need to find a way to get as much as he can out of him. Hopefully his style of management (massaging egos as opposed to tough taskmaster) will help build his confidence as we know he is painfully tempramental.

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« Reply #1594 on: June 05, 2022, 11:24:38 AM »
The contract decision was very strange, but when fit he’s double the player Diangana has been for the last two years, so if we can get 30 games out him next season that would be a positive for me.

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« Reply #1595 on: June 05, 2022, 03:23:35 PM »
The contract decision was very strange, but when fit he’s double the player Diangana has been for the last two years, so if we can get 30 games out him next season that would be a positive for me.

I genuinely struggle to recall the last time he played really well for us. I liked him a lot when he first signed but any positive influence he had on games has long since vanished.

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« Reply #1596 on: June 05, 2022, 06:35:59 PM »
I genuinely struggle to recall the last time he played really well for us. I liked him a lot when he first signed but any positive influence he had on games has long since vanished.

In fairness, the last few games of the season when he came back he did ok. Much better than some of our other wingers which isn't saying much. He's limited but can at least run with the ball down the wing.

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« Reply #1597 on: June 05, 2022, 07:00:14 PM »
In fairness, the last few games of the season when he came back he did ok. Much better than some of our other wingers which isn't saying much. He's limited but can at least run with the ball down the wing.

I get what you mean but we have to be looking for better options. Hopefully, we are doing so.

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« Reply #1598 on: October 08, 2022, 11:40:31 PM »
Lost the ball an astonishing 27 times today in a dispay of complete ineptitude, even by his standards. One more mark against Bruce !!

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« Reply #1599 on: October 09, 2022, 01:55:41 PM »
Lost the ball an astonishing 27 times today in a dispay of complete ineptitude, even by his standards. One more mark against Bruce !!

Chap behind us tried to get the 'Oh Matty Phillips' song going about half an hour into the game yesterday. I was genuinely surprised he got as far as Phillips never mind the wonderful bit. He was stopped in his tracks by a couple of lads at that point though and didn't try again. It was really funny to be honest ;D  .
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