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Title: 1 Jan 2024 Swansea City 1 Albion 0
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 19, 2023, 05:03:40 PM
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion

Monday 1st January 2024 15.00pm

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Title: In Game Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 19, 2023, 05:05:41 PM
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion

Monday 1st January 2024 15.00pm

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Title: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 19, 2023, 05:06:06 PM
Swansea City v West Bromwich Albion

Monday 1st January 2024 15.00pm

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Title: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 19, 2023, 05:09:51 PM
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Title: Match Officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on December 20, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
Referee: Andy Davies
Assistant Referee: Graham Kane
Assistant Referee: Nigel Lugg
Fourth Official: Tom Reeves

Reffed our 2-2 with Huddersfield last season and missed a blatant penalty shove on Diangana.
Title: Re: Match Officials
Post by: SmethDan on December 20, 2023, 09:33:19 AM
The day just gets better and better........  :-X .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on December 30, 2023, 07:54:37 AM
Fortunately 10 men of Norwich probably didn't over exhaust us however sure the Leeds game took it out of them. Wonder if we will see some rotation? Yokusulu played 180 minutes wonder if we will see chalobah? Wallace tight groin does that mean Sarmiento or swift?

I would take a point pre game.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: mulliganstired on December 30, 2023, 10:14:46 AM
A draw here would be ok, but they are very hit and miss so I'm sure we'll be really going for the win
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Sted1990 on December 30, 2023, 11:07:52 AM
I'd take a point if it means we can rest, Wallace, Kipre & Yok.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on December 30, 2023, 11:26:52 AM
Play the full XI against Swansea then rest them for the FA cup game next Sunday. Gives them nearly 2 weeks rest until Blackburn and they have earnt it.

All the backup players will benefit from 90 mins under their belt against Aldershot as many players don't get game time under CC so the cup will be perfect for them to shake off the rust and hopefully show CC what they can do.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: hardtobeat on December 30, 2023, 02:03:04 PM
Just one to keep your eyes on. Anybody travelling by train services between Swansea and Shrewsbury have been cancelled due to flooding !
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: ttree30 on December 31, 2023, 09:27:54 AM
Our record at Swansea is terrible - some of our worst performances, even under the likes of Roy Hodgson, have been there.

I even remember sitting at the old Vetch in the 1980s watching Ron Wylie’s team get comprehensively turned over - and it’s been little better in the 40 years since.

Our New Year’s Day record is bad too - we haven’t won any of the last 11, and have lost more NYD games than any other Championship team.

So…..what a great day to change the record! I’m a bit worried about fatigue, but Swansea are nothing special and Corberan is doing a marvellous job.

Hoping for a positive start to 2024. 🤞🤞🤞
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on December 31, 2023, 10:02:27 AM
From our last four visits to Swansea we have two defeats, one draw and a win which was in 2018. I was there for three of them. A defeat a draw and a win. Complete set.

The draw was March 7th 2020, our final away day before the first lock down. The game itself was a dire nil nil borathon, our only real chance of the game falling to Jake Livermore towards the end. He launched it. I believe the ball may still be in orbit.

Other memories of the day were the murky weather, the surreal atmosphere, seeing faces I hadn't seen for a while and spending company with good people. And the handshakes. And the hugs. Lots of hugs.

It was almost as though we knew we wouldn't be seeing each other again for quite some time. A band of brothers. Baggie Brothers. Sadly I can't make this game but the memories of that away day draw will be front and centre tomorrow.

COYB  8) .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheBaggieMan on December 31, 2023, 01:09:28 PM
Got to agree with Gaz…..play a full team and rest most of them for the Aldershot FA Cup game.
With Leeds at home to Blouse they should get an easy three points so we don’t want the points gap between us and Leeds getting bigger.
I suspect Dike may feature for a few minutes late on at Swansea and if by some miracle he avoids injury, see him starting in the Cup game.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on December 31, 2023, 01:57:00 PM
From our last four visits to Swansea we have two defeats, one draw and a win which was in 2018. I was there for three of them. A defeat a draw and a win. Complete set.

The draw was March 7th 2020, our final away day before the first lock down. The game itself was a dire nil nil borathon, our only real chance of the game falling to Jake Livermore towards the end. He launched it. I believe the ball may still be in orbit.

Other memories of the day were the murky weather, the surreal atmosphere, seeing faces I hadn't seen for a while and spending company with good people. And the handshakes. And the hugs. Lots of hugs.

It was almost as though we knew we wouldn't be seeing each other again for quite some time. A band of brothers. Baggie Brothers. Sadly I can't make this game but the memories of that away day draw will be front and centre tomorrow.

COYB  8) .

I was at that match too Dan, and agree it was an awful game. My lasting memory of the day was Livermore giving Periera a right rollocking because Jake had broken up a Swansea attack and exposed them on the right and Periera just stood watching and never moved to take advantage. Periera was substituted just after and left the field , walked around in front of us with his sulky face on .
After the game ended  and we were getting back on the coaches, we noticed that he was stood on his own with his bag outside the players entrance. Ours was the last coach to leave about 1/2 hour later and he was still standing there waiting for the team coach to pull round the corner and ignoring supporters waving to him.
Bad day at the office
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on December 31, 2023, 02:36:55 PM
Ordered tickets pretty late on so they’re being sent down on the coach.

Anybody on the coaches know what time you’re due to arrive?
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: SmethDan on December 31, 2023, 03:08:17 PM
Ordered tickets pretty late on so they’re being sent down on the coach.

Anybody on the coaches know what time you’re due to arrive?

The official coaches are due to leave the Hawthorns at 10:30hrs. Based on today's traffic the journey down should take roughly 2hrs and 29 minutes (according to Google Maps). So around about 13:00hrs.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: liverbaggie on December 31, 2023, 04:58:09 PM
Bang on Gazberg
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: hunsletbaggie on December 31, 2023, 08:10:03 PM
I'd take a point if it means we can rest, Wallace, Kipre & Yok.
Isn't Kipre suspended anyway i'm sure it came up he had received 5 yellow cards when he got booked against Leeds
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: MarkW on December 31, 2023, 08:48:33 PM
Isn't Kipre suspended anyway i'm sure it came up he had received 5 yellow cards when he got booked against Leeds

Pretty sure we're past the amnesty cut off for five yellow cards. Next one is 10
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: hardtobeat on December 31, 2023, 08:51:03 PM
Pretty sure we're past the amnesty cut off for five yellow cards. Next one is 10
Quite correct , think the cut off is 19 games so for 10 bookings it maybe around 38 games when the next amnesty kicks in
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 01, 2024, 01:06:34 PM
Nice and wet here today in Swansea, as per usual lately, come on you baggies!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tegga on January 01, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
A difficult game today, and I think the team that wins will be the one that is mentally prepared for this Christmas/New year's schedule. As for us, coming after Friday night's sensational win against one of top teams it's a bit like "after the Lord Mares show" but I'm sure Carlos would have prepared them for this trip to a wet and cold South Wales. COYB
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 02:01:58 PM
Name a Strong team now, rest them against Aldershot, COYB let's hope for 3 points UTA
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 02:06:11 PM
Wallace out so Tom Fellows makes his first appearance as Saramiento  has gone back to Brighton, Bartley in for Ajayi, Higgins on the Bench.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2024, 02:14:14 PM
We need signings desperately. Feel so sorry for CC
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 02:19:05 PM
Oh and this is Grady's last game before Afcon so we do need signings. Wallace, Fellows and Kids at wing, is it worth when Dike is back playing BTA out wide he is more of a winger than a Striker
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 02:19:39 PM
I can't see how we get three points here without Wallace - he's been instrumental last couple of games
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2024, 02:23:30 PM
Hope I'm wrong, but can't see us playing with the same intensity and energy as on Friday evening where everyone pushed themselves to the limit. 
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 02:27:20 PM
Oh and this is Grady's last game before Afcon so we do need signings. Wallace, Fellows and Kids at wing, is it worth when Dike is back playing BTA out wide he is more of a winger than a Striker

I know we were told BTA was a winger/striker when he signed but I've seen nothing to suggest he'd be a better winger than striker based on what I've seen.

I think it's more likely Swift is utilised out wide
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 02:29:20 PM
I can't see how we get three points here without Wallace - he's been instrumental last couple of games
Hopefully a Fresher Fellows who will have a point to prove without Grady during AFCON is on song and can get us that spark and As for BTA it has to be worth a try maybe let him drift out wide with Dike as the Striker
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 01, 2024, 03:00:14 PM
Very few options for CC today. I’m disappointed that Swift isn’t starting but the reasons have been made clear.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:01:37 PM
COYB
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:02:22 PM
Townsend captain?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:06:12 PM
There dominating the ball at the minute.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:06:46 PM
They keep trying the ball over the top. Looks like all teams are testing our Achilles heel.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:08:25 PM
Palmer easily catches. They head clear, Fellows tried to play in BTA
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 03:11:36 PM
Good bit of work from Fellows to take the fullback, BTA should do better.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:11:54 PM
Sub already on for them. (injury).
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:16:02 PM
I don't like all this backpassing to Palmer. The ground is wet and slippery. It only takes one mistake and it's a goal for them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:18:09 PM
Nearly played in Kipre from the long throw but there played it to the keeper
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:18:59 PM
They pick up a yellow.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 03:19:47 PM
A very ordinary looking Baggies team today. Let’s hope we can just dig in and get a result in what sounds like difficult conditions to play in. Phillips, Dike, Sarmiento, Maja, Wallace and Swift all either departed, injured or not fully fit is massive. With Diangana and Ajayi also about to depart we are really struggling to field a team that can keep us in the top 6.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:20:00 PM
We get the first corner.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:20:48 PM
Wasted Corner
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:20:52 PM
Nothing comes of it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:24:54 PM
BTA keeping the ball too long and losing it.

Molumby poor pass to Mowatt giving Swansea the ball and a chance.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:26:02 PM
With such a wet pitch, mistakes will happen. Must be careful.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:26:15 PM
Molumby's passing is poor at the moment.

Surely that was a push on Furlong?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:26:47 PM
Bit of a dire game
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:27:39 PM
Fulton just wide,
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: KN22 on January 01, 2024, 03:28:27 PM
Molumby's passing is poor at the moment.

Surely that was a push on Furlong?

His passing is always poor.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:28:50 PM
Bit of a dire game

Conditions aren't helping but it's very slow...especially from us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 03:29:56 PM
Think the pitch is slowing the ball and its ruining the game for both teams.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:32:06 PM
Good ball front Furlong, just a shame Fellows hadn't read it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:33:22 PM
Molumby heads over.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:33:35 PM
The Pitch being cut up badly resembles a Rugby Pitch, BTA has it, Moloumby heads it over
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:35:05 PM
BTA shoots but the gk saves.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:35:58 PM
Fellows carved the defence open, BTA.hit it weak foot. Best chance so far
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:36:55 PM
Great run and  ball from Fellows to BTA who should do better.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 03:37:07 PM
Should finish that.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:37:35 PM
Fellows shoots low saved by Rushworth, Fellows is  getting into the game more, BTA created the chance
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:37:46 PM
Weak shot from Fellows
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:39:17 PM
Fellows is looking lively, just need some end product. Swansea offside although WM think the attacker might have been on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:40:00 PM
Out for a throw, we had a good spell of passing then
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 03:41:16 PM
Bring Swift on second half and we'll win this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:43:59 PM
Cold and damp out there. Need a goal to warm us up.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:44:09 PM
Yokuslu fouled
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:45:56 PM
That looked like handball.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:46:58 PM
2 minutes added
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 03:47:21 PM
They clear we had a good spell two minutes added on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:48:27 PM
Best time for us to get a goal COYB
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:48:56 PM
HT 0-0
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:50:11 PM
Good ball to BTA but equally good defending.

Half time.
Think we were the better side. Conditions aren't helping but if we keep it up we can win this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: koren on January 01, 2024, 03:50:43 PM
We were the better team throughout the 1st half, unlucky not to score.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 03:50:48 PM
Better team this half, Fellows looking good just need a goal. Get Swift on, the lack of the press from Swansea will give him enough space to finish these.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 03:50:53 PM
Should probably be 1-0 up going in there, hope we don't regret it
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2024, 03:53:17 PM
We've definitely got the beating of them. Fellows has the beating of their back and Dianga, BTA very lively. We should get some decent chances, and then make sure no stupid blunders at the back. 
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 01, 2024, 03:54:16 PM
SS Just confirmed we have the worst new years day record of any team ever
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 03:55:23 PM
We not only have to battle against a Swansea team but also the conditions
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 04:01:18 PM
SS Just confirmed we have the worst new years day record of any team ever

Yeah there was a quiz on BBC yesterday where you had to name the first premier league goalscorer of each calendar year. A disproportionately high number came against us!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:01:54 PM
Nowhere near our best but still streets ahead of Swansea.

Missing Jed's deliveries that's for sure
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:02:00 PM
The conditions might mean that the first and only goal will decide the outcome.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2024, 04:04:51 PM
Nowhere near our best but still streets ahead of Swansea.

Missing Jed's deliveries that's for sure
Fellows has a very good delivery. The trouble is the ball is not falling to players with a good accurate shot in them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:05:05 PM
The pics at the ground shows it hissing down.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: hunsletbaggie on January 01, 2024, 04:06:01 PM
Looked like Townsend was saying something to the referee about the weather conditions has they were coming off at halftime is there any chance this game won't finish?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:06:16 PM
2nd half underway. COYB.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:08:27 PM
We have the edge, need to build on it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:08:42 PM
They get a corner.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:08:54 PM
Fellows has a very good delivery. The trouble is the ball is not falling to players with a good accurate shot in them.

I agree Fellows does but i've not seen one yet today but i've missed the first 20/25 mins due to being at work.

Home out the rain now with WBA TV on :)
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:09:51 PM
Another yellow for them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 01, 2024, 04:09:57 PM
I'm not at the game but I live just over a mile from the ground, and for those of you not watching the game I can confirm it's absolutely atrocious outside, it's been hammering down relentlessly for most of the day!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:10:06 PM
That's got to be a yellow and is
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:12:09 PM
Soft freekick that
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:12:31 PM
Palmer saves us again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:13:09 PM
Good save from Palmer
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:13:58 PM
It looks like set pieces may be the difference.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:14:37 PM
It's all swansea at the moment.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:14:49 PM
Corner to them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:15:14 PM
Bartley and Kipre both left the cross but luckily they don't capitalise
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:15:25 PM
1-0  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:16:25 PM
1-0 Swansea,  header, it falls luckily to feet of Swansea player who shoots low into net
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:17:03 PM
Townsend caught under the ball.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:17:13 PM
Not sure how their player, who scored, feels is mobbed on the soggy pitch
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 04:17:35 PM
Townsend has to be stronger there
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 01, 2024, 04:17:51 PM
Absolute garbage today. Simply nowhere near good enough.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:18:25 PM
Too many of our better players missing today. We were never going to do anything but scrape a result. Still time but there’s not a lot of quality in midfield or up top today.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:18:44 PM
They have their tails up.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:18:51 PM
Diangana has to do better with that.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 04:19:00 PM
FFS, awful they are getting the rub of the green
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 01, 2024, 04:19:04 PM
Just can't see where a goal is going to come from for us.  Maybe a corner or set piece.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 04:19:16 PM
Absolute garbage today. Simply nowhere near good enough.
We dominated them first half so bit of an over reaction.
Poor goal to concede though
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:19:33 PM
2nd half we have been very poor
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:20:37 PM
They're shooting on sight.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:20:42 PM
Chalobah coming on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:20:50 PM
Corner to them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:21:28 PM
We need Swift more than Chalobah, need to get back on the ball and drive forward like the first half.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Groovephil on January 01, 2024, 04:21:33 PM
They’ve certainly raised their game and ours has dipped.

Need Swift
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:21:52 PM
Ajayi, Reach and Chalobah coming on apparently. NO Swift?!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:21:59 PM
Ajayi coming on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: luke.jones1234 on January 01, 2024, 04:23:09 PM
Chalobah and reach possibly the poorest substitutions you can bring on in this league
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:23:23 PM
There are no teams in the Championship who could cope with the players we’ve lost to injury etc. so far this season. Without the missing players we are very ordinary.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:23:53 PM
They've had 8 shots to our 5
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:24:34 PM
Ajayi, Reach and Chalobah coming on apparently. NO Swift?!
Swift must be still carrying a knock.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:24:39 PM
Kipre', Bartley and Grady going off.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:24:49 PM
Kipre, Bartley and Grady off.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 01, 2024, 04:25:09 PM
Looks like we're settling for 1-0.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:25:21 PM
Chalobah, Ajayi and Reach on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 04:25:27 PM
Need Swift and please a better full back in the Window. Our Centre Backs are fine but Townsend is poor. Kipre, Bartley and Diangana for Reach, Chalobah and Ajayi those are baffling whose playing at Centre Half now, is Reach full back what strange changes
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:25:30 PM
Lightweight subs.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:25:40 PM
Some strange subs there for me.

Prove me wrong please CC
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: hardtobeat on January 01, 2024, 04:25:44 PM
Ajayi, Reach and Chalobah coming on apparently. NO Swift?!
Wouldn’t be risking anybody with a dodgy calf in these conditions !
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:26:01 PM
Looks like we're settling for 1-0.
A draw would certainly be a result at this point.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 04:26:13 PM
What's the shape now?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:27:27 PM
What's the shape now?

Jelly  ;D

Looks like 3 at back so far, Furlong and Townsend pushed further up.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 01, 2024, 04:27:50 PM
Looks like a Yokuslu is CB? Townsend and Furlong either side??
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:28:13 PM
Looks like a Yokuslu is CB? Townsend and Furlong either side??

Yes looks that way to me
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:28:20 PM
A lot of passing around at the back. need to move it forwards.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:29:06 PM
Lightweight subs.

Not sure what better options there were on the bench other than Swift
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 01, 2024, 04:29:20 PM
A draw would certainly be a result at this point.

Never thought I'd agree with that but of course at this stage I do.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:29:29 PM
We get a corner.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:30:10 PM
Our corners come to nothing.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:30:39 PM
Not sure what better options there were on the bench other than Swift
Agreed it’s bare bones today. Need Swift, Dike and Wallace back ASAP.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:30:42 PM
Good pressure from us but need to take our chances.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggiecarl on January 01, 2024, 04:31:01 PM
Ajayi, Reach and Chalobah coming on apparently. NO Swift?!
Those three coming on, in response to going behind.
Totally baffaling, considering his Messiah status.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:32:25 PM
BTA wiped out, possible penalty denied. Hard to tell if Swansea defender got BTA, he definitely got none of the ball however
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on January 01, 2024, 04:33:19 PM
He did not get BTA, BTA dived
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 01, 2024, 04:33:26 PM
AWFUL dive from BTA.  Absolute shocker of an attempt to win a penalty.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggie79 on January 01, 2024, 04:33:34 PM
Looks as though he wants to protect our only available and quality CD's by taking them off. It would be madness to lose them chasing a point on a really dangerous pitch like this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:33:41 PM
Those three coming on, in response to going behind.
Totally baffaling, considering his Messiah status.
Can only be Swift isn’t fully fit. Not sure about that status. He can’t turn water into wine. This is nowhere near our first choice squad.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:35:07 PM
Molumby off for Pipa.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:35:22 PM
Can only be Swift isn’t fully fit. Not sure about that status. He can’t turn water into wine. This is nowhere near our first choice squad.

4th game in 10 days exposing the frailties of our depleted squad
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 04:35:26 PM
Looked better since the changes but not sure what else he can do other than risk Swift.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:35:28 PM
Can only be Swift isn’t fully fit. Not sure about that status. He can’t turn water into wine. This is nowhere near our first choice squad.


Don't think it's that. He wouldn't be on the bench if so. CC was pushing to get Dike back ASAP last week while acknowledging the medical team will push back but CC said he will push back against that so i don't think CC is worried about pushing things from his own words.

Molumby off and Pipa on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:36:18 PM
4th game in 10 days exposing the frailties of our depleted squad
Yes - to be fair if we get to the playoffs for me that’s an achievement.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:36:24 PM
Our forwards don't seem to have any idea how to beat them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:37:40 PM
Build up is too slow. They drop back in numbers.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:40:02 PM
Yes - to be fair if we get to the playoffs for me that’s an achievement.

Agreed.  Cup game next week a welcome break to get Swift, Wallace and Dike fit
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 04:40:26 PM
This Is poor
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:41:11 PM
Pieters on for Okay.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:42:08 PM
They hit the bar.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:42:57 PM
Listening to the commentary and the names on the pitch it’s an awful team. Not blaming anyone but if you were trying to put all of our worst players into a formation this is pretty much it. Just shows how stretched we are.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 04:44:27 PM
Listening to the commentary and the names on the pitch it’s an awful team. Not blaming anyone but if you were trying to put all of our worst players into a formation this is pretty much it. Just shows how stretched we are.
A motley crew of players we've brought on today, drasticlly need some attacking reinforcements in january but doubt they'll come through.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:44:42 PM
Time's ticking away from us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 01, 2024, 04:44:50 PM
It's bad to watch.  Chaloboah has been decent since coming on.  I say that, and he just pinged it out of play under no pressure.  Reach has done absolutely nothing, the guy doesn't have anything to his game and if we can't find someone to buy him we should just pay him off.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 01, 2024, 04:45:34 PM
We have been AWFUL in this 2nd half. Second to everything, reading poorly. Feel like they had a late night last night!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 01, 2024, 04:46:15 PM
Just haven’t got the legs. 4 games in 10 days and our depth is not that great
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: hardtobeat on January 01, 2024, 04:46:21 PM
Those worst players sadly are the best we have available . 4th game in  9 days in awful conditions always likely to be a stretch to far !
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:46:35 PM
A motley crew of players we've brought on today, drasticlly need some attacking reinforcements in january but doubt they'll come through.
Unfortunate that we are in transition off the field. With a bit of investment and a lot more luck in terms of injuries this could well have been our season. It still might be but it’ll be the hard way!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:47:12 PM
We are too slow both thinking and playimg.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:47:30 PM
It's bad to watch.  Chaloboah has been decent since coming on.  I say that, and he just pinged it out of play under no pressure.  Reach has done absolutely nothing, the guy doesn't have anything to his game and if we can't find someone to buy him we should just pay him off.


He is in CC circle of trust though so will continue to come on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:48:30 PM
Just haven’t got the legs. 4 games in 10 days and our depth is not that great
pitch isn’t helping, slowing down our counters we tend to use in 2nd half of games while playing into Swansea’s already glacial possession based system.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:48:48 PM

He is in CC circle of trust though so will continue to come on
Not convinced he is. He’s only playing as there really isn’t much of an option.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 01, 2024, 04:49:44 PM
Just haven’t got the legs. 4 games in 10 days and our depth is not that great

Same number of games as Swansea have played though?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:50:03 PM
Rather than crosses, why don't we try route one approach?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:50:24 PM
Not convinced he is. He’s only playing as there really isn’t much of an option.

He got on against Leeds when we had a bit more choice.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:50:56 PM
Same number of games as Swansea have played though?
True but on their own pitch and with far more of their first choice players available.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:51:07 PM
we ger a corner. What will happen?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:51:24 PM
Same number of games as Swansea have played though?


That is true bud but i dont think they are carrying as many injuries as us.


4 mins added on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:51:47 PM
Our corners let us down time and time again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:52:41 PM
4 minutes were added.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:53:08 PM
Another corner for us. We collect them and not goals.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on January 01, 2024, 04:53:11 PM
Rather than crosses, why don't we try route one approach?

With BTA up top?  Would be even less point.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:53:13 PM
Another corner
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:53:43 PM
Really poor from Furlong luckily Bolasi doesn't do anything with it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:54:13 PM
Really poor from Furlong luckily Bolasi doesn't do anything with it.

Yep cowardly challenge from Furlong
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:54:53 PM
FT 1-0  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:55:14 PM

That is true bud but i dont think they are carrying as many injuries as us.


4 mins added on.


More a case of who’s missing for us.   First half performance was decent. Second half poor
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on January 01, 2024, 04:55:28 PM
We need to take more advantage of all the corners we get
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boingboing1989 on January 01, 2024, 04:57:01 PM
Game of two halves, our squad is absolutely threadbare now drastically need some reinforcements in the wide positions otherwise we're in trouble.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 04:57:36 PM
Would have been a different game if BTA or Fellows took their chances in first half.
2nd half we were below par but we've had 4 tough games in 10 days. 6 points from 12 isn't the end of the world.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 04:57:45 PM
Caught the last 20/25 mins of the first half and we were in complete control without getting going.

2nd half was atrocious however. Maybe the amount of games has took it's toll combined with the injuries. At least CC can rest them all for the cup game now.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: lewisant on January 01, 2024, 04:58:50 PM
Well that was painful but a great early highlight of the need to replace Sarmiento and Phillips but it really depends where we are with the takeover and finances.

That first half was fine though!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 04:59:02 PM
Not going to get carried away by wins or defeats. The squad today just wasn’t good enough. Hopefully we can get Dike, Swift and Wallace fully fit and Diangana and Ajayi back in one piece. With these players we are a very good Championship team. Without them, Phillips and Maja we are poor. Take the best seven players from any side in this division and what would we expect?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: buzzingbaggie on January 01, 2024, 05:00:58 PM
Really showed the attacking players that are unavailable to us today. Crucial we have s good window.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 01, 2024, 05:01:53 PM
First half we were the better side and with better finishing we could have been 2 up.
Second half we looked like the last few games had caught up with us.
Not having any fully fit attacking options on the bench is hindering us.
We need to get one or two forwards in if we can.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: koren on January 01, 2024, 05:02:03 PM
1st half we're the better team and should have scored.
Difficult to come back when Reach is our only choice at left wing, need a new winger ASAP.
Tom Fellows had a good game in my opinion, especially the 1st half.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 05:02:24 PM
Well that was painful but a great early highlight of the need to replace Sarmiento and Phillips but it really depends where we are with the takeover and finances.

That first half was fine though!


Yep, even with squad depleted we had more quality than them but the missed chances cost us.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 05:02:36 PM
Really showed the attacking players that are unavailable to us today. Crucial we have s good window.
Don’t see anything much happening in the window unfortunately. It’s more about hanging in there and trying to get players fit or back at the end of January.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wba_1996 on January 01, 2024, 05:03:59 PM
We've just ran out of attacking players. We effectively had 3 in the whole matchday squad to play in the front 4 positions.

To get anything today without Wallace, Swift, Maja, Dike, Phillips and Sarmiento would have been a bonus. Conditions and pitch didn't help, and BTA should have scored which would have got us a result. Fellows played well.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2024, 05:04:07 PM
Ian Pearce can't even sign Billy Sharp now as he's at Hull from today.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 05:04:45 PM
Don’t see anything much happening in the window unfortunately. It’s more about hanging in there and trying to get players fit or back at the end of January.

We’ll use the saved Sarmiento wages but whether or not we can bring anyone else in will depend on who leaves.  Dike needs to be treated as a new signing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on January 01, 2024, 05:06:33 PM
We’ll use the saved Sarmiento wages but whether or not we can bring anyone else in will depend on who leaves.  Dike needs to be treated as a new signing.
Agreed Dike more than ever needs to show us what we paid out all that money for. Still feel we will have to tread carefully with him for a while.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: DevonInStripes on January 01, 2024, 05:08:10 PM
When effectively we have Reach , Pipa and Challobah replacing Mulumby , Diangana and Yokuslu then we have problems . Little point having Higgins and Swift on the bench when we don’t use them when chasing the game . I guess Swift is not fit enough to even manage a few minutes.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2024, 05:09:37 PM
Brandon has to score that no excuses Fellow’s our best attacking outlet in first half but wasn’t utilised second. Townsend again at fault for their goal has to be stronger in challenge. Subs made little difference with Reach putting in his normal abject showing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2024, 05:12:24 PM
We need a C.F. urgently, for all his running Asante isn't the answer, he should have put us in front with that chance 1st half. Thought Fellows and Mowett were fine but Townsend doesn't even jump in the build up to Swanseas goal. When chasing the game and Reach and Chalobah come on it doesn't fill you with confidence they'll change the game. Controlled most of the 1st half but looked toothless. We need to be far better from corners, also said in the commentary we haven't won away on new years day since 1972.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 01, 2024, 05:13:21 PM
The complete lack of creativity and finishing ability caused by the well known injuries forces the threadbare squad on display today, even with that we were better than them in first half. He had to change things from  the bench but there was nothing of note available. Got to have Swift, Wallace and Dike available soon or else we will continue to lose games like this. Some still find a way to knock the manager but I do not see what he could do. It was blatantly obvious that we had completely run out of steam in that second half.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on January 01, 2024, 05:13:48 PM
4 games in 10 days, a threadbare squad on top of a decent win against Leeds only a few days ago, over a festive period, appalling weather conditions, in a league where everyone can beat each other, see PNE beat Leeds, lose at home to Sheff Weds, not too shabby without a forward line.
Onwards and upwards, as far as I'm concerned we're doing ok!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheBaggieMan on January 01, 2024, 05:13:58 PM
The Window could be a big disappointment.  No funds to buy or even pay loan players without selling our assets or getting new decent investing owners.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Groovephil on January 01, 2024, 05:14:07 PM
A game too far with our squad and injuries.

We looked tired second half.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ttree30 on January 01, 2024, 05:14:28 PM
Don’t see anything much happening in the window unfortunately. It’s more about hanging in there and trying to get players fit or back at the end of January.

I think you’re right - the club is up to its eyeballs in debt and struggling to pay its bills. It’s going to be more a question of whether we can actually afford to retain players.

As for today, I think we should start a petition to have both New Year’s Day and Swansea removed from our fixture lists!

Our NYD record is terrible and I’ve lost count of the points from which Swansea have benefited over the years because of our repeatedly poor displays in south Wales.

Maybe a lot of emotional as well as physical energy was spent in the last two games, and the tank was empty.

One other thing to note - Coventry City’s surge up the table. They are coming from nowhere.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheBaggieMan on January 01, 2024, 05:18:42 PM
Desperately need another creative Number 10 as a back-up to Wallace as well as a decent goal-scoring poacher but they are like finding hens teeth.  Dike is not a natural goalscorer even if he stay fit and Maja still has to prove himself.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2024, 05:21:14 PM
Wasn't surprised they couldn't keep the intensity going from the Leeds game. First half we were the better team, but the crosses fell to players who couldn't convert them. Second half too many high crosses, when none of our forwards are much use at heading. However Fellows looks a great prospect. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 05:25:04 PM
The board have not invested in the team wisely. This is what we have.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 05:25:48 PM
I think you’re right - the club is up to its eyeballs in debt and struggling to pay its bills. It’s going to be more a question of whether we can actually afford to retain players.

As for today, I think we should start a petition to have both New Year’s Day and Swansea removed from our fixture lists!

Our NYD record is terrible and I’ve lost count of the points from which Swansea have benefited over the years because of our repeatedly poor displays in south Wales.

Maybe a lot of emotional as well as physical energy was spent in the last two games, and the tank was empty.

One other thing to note - Coventry City’s surge up the table. They are coming from nowhere.

Yes, Coventry could be the ones to make the playoffs.  There’s always one with a run of form.  Watford could well be another one to emerge.  Long way to go yet.  I’ll be very happy if we (a) get bought, (b) retain key players, and (c) scrape into the playoffs. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: overseas baggie on January 01, 2024, 05:26:55 PM
The board have not invested in the team wisely. This is what we have.

In fairness the only thing really missing is a striker.  And we’ve got one.  Injuries happen. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: smethwickw on January 01, 2024, 05:37:25 PM
Desperately need another creative Number 10 as a back-up to Wallace as well as a decent goal-scoring poacher but they are like finding hens teeth.  Dike is not a natural goalscorer even if he stay fit and Maja still has to prove himself.

I’d have looked at Billy Sharp until the end of the season. He certainly knows where the net is. Signed for Hull today.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2024, 05:40:31 PM
Walsall seem to be scoring for fun. Any chance we could get one of theirs?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mulliganstired on January 01, 2024, 05:43:00 PM
Just takes the edge off the last 2 wins, bit of a shame - we can't seem to put together a solid unbeaten run
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on January 01, 2024, 05:57:45 PM
Walsall seem to be scoring for fun. Any chance we could get one of theirs?
Talks are Freddie Draper might go back to Lincoln and they want to sell him worth a punt. He scored 10 so far. Could the next Bowen could be the next Zohore who knows.
Overall First Half was good needed to score
Second Half we looked tired we need players and soon. Otherwise we are in trouble
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: DevonInStripes on January 01, 2024, 06:04:46 PM
Surely we have to recall Faal . At the moment our only fit attacking options to fill 4 places , never mind the bench , are BTA and Fellows .
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 01, 2024, 06:18:20 PM
I've reflected since watching the match; I was berating them for not being good enough.

I'm not sure I can have a pop in all honesty at a squad that's run its nuts off (quite literally in Wallace's case), with players out and a punishing schedule working against us.

Still nearly half a season to go. Hope Dike and Swift are back in very soon... fingers crossed and COYB.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: timdon on January 01, 2024, 06:32:53 PM
Talks are Freddie Draper might go back to Lincoln and they want to sell him worth a punt. He scored 10 so far. Could the next Bowen could be the next Zohore who knows.
Overall First Half was good needed to score
Second Half we looked tired we need players and soon. Otherwise we are in trouble
I've seen a few comments similar to this. No matter how things go from here on in, we most certainly won't be "in trouble". The worst case scenario is that we don't make the play offs.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: jimmyj on January 01, 2024, 06:38:48 PM
I've seen a few comments similar to this. No matter how things go from here on in, we most certainly won't be "in trouble". The worst case scenario is that we don't make the play offs.

And thats the worst case. I still feel we'll comfortably make the play off spots. Swansea is definitely our bogey ground these days. Nine points over the four Christmas period games is a great return in my humble opinion. Now we have 12 days for our key players to rest and rehabilitate. We'll bounce back against Blackburn, I'm sure of it, and if we can squeeze in a loan or two between now and then even better. Hopefully with us going on a good tilt, with Sarmiento off and our ACON players away, Prem teams will be eager to send out some fringe players to get game time.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wbasoprano on January 01, 2024, 06:55:52 PM
Not too disheartened. Had a couple of chances first half then our lack of forward options showed with the subs second half. Wrap the first team in cotton wool ready for Blackburn and hope the kids/squad players can see Aldershot off.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 01, 2024, 07:07:59 PM
And thats the worst case. I still feel we'll comfortably make the play off spots. Swansea is definitely our bogey ground these days. Nine points over the four Christmas period games is a great return in my humble opinion. Now we have 12 days for our key players to rest and rehabilitate. We'll bounce back against Blackburn, I'm sure of it, and if we can squeeze in a loan or two between now and then even better. Hopefully with us going on a good tilt, with Sarmiento off and our ACON players away, Prem teams will be eager to send out some fringe players to get game time.

I have to point out that we got 6 points over Christmas, not 9. That aside, I echo your sentiments.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 01, 2024, 07:41:15 PM
When effectively we have Reach , Pipa and Challobah replacing Mulumby , Diangana and Yokuslu then we have problems . Little point having Higgins and Swift on the bench when we don’t use them when chasing the game . I guess Swift is not fit enough to even manage a few minutes.
Swift warmed up at HT and apparently felt something in his calf again so wasn’t an option to come on. Reading between the lines they took young Heard with them and in case Swift had a reaction to training Friday , all was ok with Swift until he tried to warm up today. CC didn’t seem happy as he had neither the young lad nor Swift to call on . Also Molumby had to have a pain killing injection to play !
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: royhan on January 01, 2024, 08:17:51 PM
The fact that we put on two central defenders and a defensive midfielder when we were losing highlights how threadbare our squad is.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Sted1990 on January 01, 2024, 08:31:30 PM
If we can find a way past Aldershot with the reserves and a few younger players we will then only have 2 more league games in Jan, get 4 points and hopefully have Wallace, Swift, Dike, Grady, Ajayi back and 2 loans. Things will look a whole lot different VS blues.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: CL3MO on January 01, 2024, 08:33:36 PM
Such a difficult game to analyse. Better team first half and lost our way in the second.

Firstly, can't fault the players as we are massively weakened and they have given everything over these last few weeks. We urgently need attacking options in this window, for sure. It's a crisis, make no mistake about it; our only saving grace is that we have just under 2 weeks until our next league game and, we hope, a lot can happen before then...

We needed to have scored first half as we know how good we can be - and stodgy, too - when we go ahead. However, when we go behind, we're always in trouble. We simply do not have the options to get back into the game.

            BTA
Reach - Pipa - Fellows

That was how we finished the game... that would do well to finish top half in League One.

Our away form is just so poor but the more you look at this squad, the more you cannot quite believe we are, at the moment, comfortably in the play offs.

Big few weeks coming.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: jimmyj on January 01, 2024, 08:48:10 PM
I have to point out that we got 6 points over Christmas, not 9. That aside, I echo your sentiments.

Very fair point, not sure why I thought we took Boro.  :-X
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 01, 2024, 11:26:49 PM
Very fair point, not sure why I thought we took Boro.  :-X

Because we should have.

Hey, this team play for one another and for CC and maybe also for us. Sum of the parts.

COYB.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBA on January 01, 2024, 11:56:22 PM
First half we were the better side and with better finishing we could have been 2 up.
Second half we looked like the last few games had caught up with us.
Not having any fully fit attacking options on the bench is hindering us.
We need to get one or two forwards in if we can.

We don't know what may or not be available.

The Sarmiento loan wages.
Getting one or two others off the paybill?  Kelly?

Really cannot see how we can replace the quality of Phillips and Maja.

Hopefully Dike will be back soon and will actually stay fit til the end of the season, but you wouldn't put money on it would you?

Fellows did ok today.

Pipa looks like he can be a creative player, not sure why he hasn't had more minutes.

I guess Taylor can 'cover' Ajayi. 

It looks to me as if we may need to to go a very rigid 4-5-1 or 5-4-1 to grind out results until we get the likes of Wallace, Swift and Dike back and maybe a loan or two, howiever they rarely hit the ground running. 



Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 02, 2024, 07:03:07 AM
Fine margins and a squad that looked depleted come the end of the game. Pipa (who I would like to see more in a full back or wing back role over Townsend due to his superior technical ability) ended in the number 10 role. Reach left wing. Chalobah ajayi and pieters as subs. With the likes of BTA Furlong mowatt looking dead on their feet in that second half.

Unfortunately we need some of our attacking players back from injury- Phillips and Maja we won't see for months. Dike on the cusp, swift feeling his muscle in warm up so obviously not right, Wallace also not available. Capping off with Sarmiento being recalled and Diangana going to AFCON.

Without some reinforcements in this window our season will probably end like last season which is Don Carlos working miracles through to the end and us coming up just a little short because of our thread bare squad. Can't fault the effort today just needed BTA to finish his chance and it's a different game we may have got all 3 points or even a point.

I love the fa cup and always hate when we make so many changes but based on our injury crisis I see nothing else but wholesale changes for Sunday. Perhaps shifting Kelly or reach (or both) and Sarmiento going back gives us some option to go into the loan market.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 02, 2024, 08:11:03 AM
Desperately need another creative Number 10 as a back-up to Wallace as well as a decent goal-scoring poacher but they are like finding hens teeth. Dike is not a natural goalscorer even if he stay fit and Maja still has to prove himself.

His career stats of 1 goal every 158 mins suggests otherwise (39 goals/ 6164 mins; if taken as 39 goals in 96 appearances it's still a goal every 2.4 games)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/daryl-dike/leistungsdaten/spieler/638741