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Now that Bruce has seen this dross, will he change?
Reach in CM, yeesh
A tweet I saw sums it up pretty well in my opinion, he’s probably not the man we want but possibly the man we need. Appointing someone like Carrick would have been admitting promotion is out of the equation, Bruce is a safe option as he could potentially rejuvenate the squad and help get us promoted, if not then he’ll either get one more crack at it the year after or will go in the summer. I think our problems are much more than a manager at this point to be honest.
Tended to play 4141 / 451 at Newcastle, can't see him playing 3 at the back, not in the long term anyway.
Now I think VI's approach was largely to blame. He just didn't want us to play through midfield, look at his Barnsley team. Everything about his approach was built around kicking it long and pressing from there - % football it used to be called by Bassett and Gould. In this system a midfield is there to chase and harry more than it is to pass.
If we have three midfielders in there (one holding) and two linking up (Mowatt and TGH for eg), it could completely change the way we play and I think and Mowatt in partciular would come to life and we'd maybe even get a goal or two from midfield (I hope).
VI just made his and our life so difficult for 'ideological' reasons it was maddening. Bruce for all the criticism he's getting has had a long career by being pragmatic and working with what he has instead of 'template football'.
Is there a better candidate out there (realistically- no/minimum compo) than Brucey?
That's it, isn't it? Short term, no interest in long term future of the club. Do you think Bruce is interested in WBA scouting? Anotehr journeyman off the carousel ready for his next paypacket. Then rinse and repeat.
It can't help the lad knowing if you start a game you will get hauled off after 60 mins no matter what or you are on the bench hoping to come on at 60 mins.
I'm sure I'm repeating my opinion, but I reckon he feels lost - a London lad who was sold the three amigos mirage must wonder what the flip he is doing in Smethwick being a bit part player at an imploding club. New bloke + a bit of TLC is what he needs. He is a proper winger, he's not Willie or Laurie, but I still hope he can do great things soon.
I'm not that bleeding heart by the way, I know he has a well padded income above the dreams of most to soften any troubles he has.
It hasn’t all been the manager. This isn’t a good squad - no goal scorer, immobile midfield, defenders who lose markers and make basic mistakes. Several players who have consistently proved themselves inadequate yet are still here, while better ones have been sold /given away and replaced with inferior ones.
But VI has made a mediocre side stink the place out.
Good coaches make teams better; this one has made things much, much worse.
There has been no sign of improvement. No chinks of light. The trend line has been remorseless for months.
Down. And out.
Excellent news. Don't suppose there's any chance of shifting the other lump or the one that's in the kennel?
That is excatly why people that genuinely hear things dont bother passing on information anymore as it's a thankless exercise.
I think you're referring to a member of this forum who was passing on something he'd been told by a (normally reliable) contact within the club.
IMO, he passed the information on in good faith, he has also passed on information which turned out to be correct.
I'm not sure that information passed on in good faith deserves a cynical response.
I remember that game well. AC had no answer to Jonas.
Saying that he's scored more goals against us than anyone else apparently with 7 goals.
I haven't seen this reported anywhere. It was reported (?) that was what he was on at Reading, but he rejected staying with them.I can guarantee it will still be a damn site less than Big Ken is getting for sitting in his pants at home.
He’ll be gone either way in a few weeks. Hope will return.
Seems odd that we'd stick with a 4 year plan now, even when it looks like it might mean a sustained stay in the Championship, yet we ditched Bilic pretty quickly and threw out his plan.
All well and good but it's a different ball game compared to last season. I am starting to wonder how much the lack of a crowd and five subs helped him. There's even a few in that thread saying they got well and truly found out in the POs.
As for the comments about being top six not bottom six... anything lower than 4th would be our lowest league finish for over 20 years. No one is too good to slide down the leagues but we rightly should expect better.
Who is Faal, one of the subs?
Perhaps we should all respect each other’s opinions a little more. Because that’s all they are - opinions.
We all want our club to do well. I’ve had almost 50 years of (mostly) disappointment but I keep coming back for more.
I’ve gradually shifted from being optimistic about Ismael to the opposite, mainly because of results and performances over the last several months. I’m afraid that view hasn’t shifted with three late goals at home to Peterborough. That’s my honest opinion, and it has built up over time rather than through the odd result here and there.
What will start to shift it positively is if the team follows up with some more positive results and performances. This was Ismael’s third win in almost three months - 3 wins in 11 games isn’t great, and we’ve failed to score in 5 of them.
I think he has the worst squad we’ve fielded for 20 years, and that’s not his fault. I cut him slack for that - I don’t think we have any right to expect automatic promotion, but we are better than the poor results and performances have been since he had such a good start in the first ten games.
So it’s about trends for me. If his next three or four results are as poor as the last three or four before today, that keeps the trend line going down. We won’t stay in the top six with the results he’s achieved over the past four months and good coaches don’t tend to make teams worse.
If he starts to get top 6 results over the next few weeks (and he needs to if we’re to stay in the top 6 for much longer), then he’ll start to restore some of my confidence.
But I’m afraid three late goals against probably the league’s worst team - welcome though it is - is not enough to persuade me that Ismael has turned the corner. It took quite a lot of poor results to turn me negative on Ismael, and likewise it’ll take quite a few positive ones to restore my belief.
That’s an honest opinion. I entirely respect that other people may see it differently. But one result isn’t enough to swing the pendulum either way on its own for me.
Pleased with the result, but not anything more than that for now.
Reach and Mulumby were bought in by Val.Bought in whilst he was manager. They both scream of Albion recruitment team options. Do you really think he arrived at the ground with their names scribbled on a bit of paper? These are the ones I want!!! Both were cheap and available, I'm sure Reach has been linked with us before. It wouldn't surprise me if Molomby only came to the club's attention whilst arranging the Clarke deal.
Gayle's a pure finisher , through balls are his game . Not lofted punts or long throws to be brutally honest .
Only J Rod would sort of fit now , agreed on Dike .
Feel for him already to be honest , huge pressure.