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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #525 on: October 06, 2018, 12:28:00 AM »
I see a Dale Jennings kind of player unfortunately.
Having read some of the comments on here about him, more Norman Wisdom. ☺️
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #526 on: October 06, 2018, 12:58:02 AM »
Having read some of the comments on here about him, more Norman Wisdom. ☺️

Any normal wisdom would have made us steer clear.

After all we were basically told he could not follow instructions on the pitch.

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« Reply #527 on: October 06, 2018, 03:29:11 AM »
Any normal wisdom would have made us steer clear.

After all we were basically told he could not follow instructions on the pitch.
Doesn't that make it all the more bizarre that Pulis would sign him and at that price. Nothing makes sense about the whole Burke purchase.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #528 on: October 06, 2018, 06:52:32 AM »
Any normal wisdom would have made us steer clear.

After all we were basically told he could not follow instructions on the pitch.
So how do we know we were told this ?.... and who would have told us ?
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #529 on: October 06, 2018, 07:07:00 AM »
Doesn't that make it all the more bizarre that Pulis would sign him and at that price.
Isn't TP's career dogged by these sorts of things?
He is known to be very 'old school' isn't he?
Lot's of dark rumours about some of the stuff that goes on around him that are probably quite libelous to repeat on an open forum.
Just think back to his issues with Palace 
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #530 on: October 06, 2018, 08:09:18 AM »
Burke is 21, one year older than Sam Field who we still talk about as needing development and loans to get games under his belt.

Burke to me looks to have raw ability but is a bit wild/ unpredictable and has stagnated for a few years now.

Either we play him, loan him out or sell him for what we can to get his game time and thus experience/ confidence up. Personally, I'd loan him out to another championship club so he can play every week. we can then see what he can do.

Otherwise, we're wasting more money and time on him. Still, 15m, even by Pulis's standards of wasting our money now seems to be about 10m too much even in today's market and was based on about 15 good games for Forest because it doesn't look like he much in Germany either?




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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #531 on: October 06, 2018, 01:00:59 PM »
So how do we know we were told this ?.... and who would have told us ?

It came out in the press and surely whoever scouted him would have known what the German press was saying.

It would not surprise if there were brown envelopes involved in this deal. A certain somebody had a massive legal bill and compo to pay and I will never get why a loan was first mooted, and made the most sense after the terrible year he had in Germany, and then a permanent deal for a massive fee.

I know we were implicated in the Albrectson deal years ago so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

I think the Alardyce England scandal and the whole panorama program on him and his son that that generation of manager isn't a averse to a under the table payment.

And allegedly the person wasn' t a paragon of virtue judging by his actions at Gillingham and Palace.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #532 on: October 06, 2018, 09:23:24 PM »
It came out in the press and surely whoever scouted him would have known what the German press was saying.

It would not surprise if there were brown envelopes involved in this deal. A certain somebody had a massive legal bill and compo to pay and I will never get why a loan was first mooted, and made the most sense after the terrible year he had in Germany, and then a permanent deal for a massive fee.

I know we were implicated in the Albrectson deal years ago so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

I think the Alardyce England scandal and the whole panorama program on him and his son that that generation of manager isn't a averse to a under the table payment.

And the person wasn' t a paragon of virtue judging by his actions at Gillingham and Palace.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility but it's also a bit of a long shot. You've obviously got your teeth into this one. Personally I hope and  think, given a decent opportunity, Burke will come to prove himself.... whether it's with us or someone else.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #533 on: October 06, 2018, 10:02:46 PM »
I haven't got my teeth into anything other than a chocolate orange.

Just cannot believe how bad a player he is for the price paid for him.

He cannot make the bench in the championship.

I wish and pray that he comes good, it's  just I have seen nothing at all to get me excited that he will come good as he has been bad in the u23 games I saw last season.

He is fast but so is Usain bolt who thinks he can play pro football too. He came in with reputation that he play the wing and upfront but he cannot play at all to date.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #534 on: October 06, 2018, 10:16:23 PM »
Just a question re him not being on the bench. This home grown player rule is a bit complex and I'm not sure about it. Do Edwards or Leko get picked ahead of him on the bench because of that rule and the fact that they are genuine club academy products ?
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #535 on: October 06, 2018, 10:29:29 PM »
Just a question re him not being on the bench. This home grown player rule is a bit complex and I'm not sure about it. Do Edwards or Leko get picked ahead of him on the bench because of that rule and the fact that they are genuine club academy products ?

I thought it was British players not home grown ones.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #536 on: October 06, 2018, 10:42:37 PM »
I thought it was British players not home grown ones.

https://www.footballtradedirectory.com/efl-clubs-agree-to-matchday-squad-rule-change

Its 7 home-grown plus 1 club developed registered with the club for at least 1 year before the end of his u19 season hence why one of Field, Harper, Leko or Edwards is always on the bench plus Rogers was in the cup game against Mansfield
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #537 on: October 06, 2018, 10:52:57 PM »
I had hoped to see Tulloch in the match day squad as was very impressed by him in the u23 last season.

I think he even made a matchday squad last season.

We need a box to box mulumbu type player as the biggest priority in Jan, for hopefully a mulumbu type of price too.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #538 on: October 14, 2018, 02:46:56 PM »
NO surprise but WBA want to sell Burke. Alan Nixon of the Sun said on twitter, decent amount of interest even some Prem clubs.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #539 on: October 14, 2018, 03:40:40 PM »
His value at thisvstage will be £5-£7 million. Disastrous handling. Should have gone on loan.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #540 on: October 14, 2018, 03:42:33 PM »
15m for him was sheer insanity from the board (whats new?)

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #541 on: October 14, 2018, 03:49:38 PM »
For an outlay of £15m we can do better
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #542 on: October 14, 2018, 05:13:24 PM »
NO surprise but WBA want to sell Burke. Alan Nixon of the Sun said on twitter, decent amount of interest even some Prem clubs.
Any journalist with an ounce of imagination could have come to that conclusion based on the fact that he isn't getting into the first team squad. The lack of any quotes from our club and the other clubs mentioned, and the lack of any supporting evidence whatsoever, show it up for what it is - the usual Sun made up nonsense

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #543 on: October 14, 2018, 06:44:17 PM »
Any journalist with an ounce of imagination could have come to that conclusion based on the fact that he isn't getting into the first team squad. The lack of any quotes from our club and the other clubs mentioned, and the lack of any supporting evidence whatsoever, show it up for what it is - the usual Sun made up nonsense


Agreed.

I mean seriously can anyone really see Spurs wanting Burke?

Nonsense.

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« Reply #544 on: October 14, 2018, 07:37:11 PM »
15m for him was sheer insanity from the board (whats new?)
According to Matt Wilson at the time it was a fee rising to £15m. Calling it £10m is going to be a lot closer, it could even have been less than that knowing how these things work.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #545 on: October 14, 2018, 08:22:16 PM »

Agreed.

I mean seriously can anyone really see Spurs wanting Burke?

Nonsense.


Who said Spurs were in for him? 

Maybe it's not such a far flung thought a premier club wants him. After all we did
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #546 on: October 14, 2018, 08:24:42 PM »

Who said Spurs were in for him? 

Maybe it's not such a far flung thought a premium club wants him. After all we dis


it was on social media this morning. Spurs, Newcastle and Brighton were mentioned.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #547 on: October 14, 2018, 09:37:36 PM »
Our failure to nurture his talent has been extremely disappointing

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #548 on: October 14, 2018, 09:48:05 PM »
Our failure to nurture his talent has been extremely disappointing
Mixed feelings for me , I can still see the same flaws he had at Forest despite two moves and a number of managers . Something, somewhere isn't quite right , I can understand Pulis and Pardew but most players seem to respond to Moore so far.
Maybe its not down to the coaching staff.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #549 on: October 14, 2018, 09:59:07 PM »
There you go, time will tell. If we did whats to say no one else will. For certain though no one will pay what we stupidly did.