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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 13, 2016, 01:20:04 PM »

I take it back, I hope you crash back into the championship and stay there, which is what I hope for any club that plays non-football normally, some of your fans need bringing back down to earth

Us smaller clubs fans will continue to hold the PL and some of its fans in contempt every time the arrogance of the PL and its ignorant pundits rears its head

Remember - first game you won 3-0 in 2009/2010 in a cup, 2nd game we got a 1-1 draw and lost 2-0 on a replay, third game we held you twice, scoring first in the second game, only losing on penalties - and playing the better football

Given that we've consistently closed the gap on a budget of under 5 million to your 60+ million I've no doubt in 10 years the gap will be half again, and next time we'll have a shot at beating you again - who knows next time we meet in the championship you might be considered an underdog despite your size and history and fanbase, what you have accomplished 50+ years ago is really irrelevant, you only have to ask Bradford how much it means if you are in any doubt - they were also sure when they came down that they were a massive club who automatically would bounce straight back up, this was something like a decade ago..

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 08:54:43 PM »

In a nutshell after taking over the club as owner/manager he got them to I think the 4th round of the FA Cup in 2002 ish, switched the home tie to Arsenal and after losing left the club a few days later taking most of the squad and backroom staff to Stevenage

I read, yeah that was totally out of order what Westley did

Early night for me, good luck in the FAC and PL, you're a good bunch - maybe next time we might manage a scalp (we've gone from 3-0 loss, to a replay, to a replay and pens in three ties now ;P)

Oh and thanks for paying for Tom Nichols, big things expected from him

I'll be quietly smug if Assombalonga or Washington grab a winner against you though jacko - if you end up in the same division one day, and don't think I won't be checking now and then; though I really hope you stay up, and living in Cheshire its a game I can get to so I'll be happy to meet in the cup again at some point.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 08:33:44 PM »

I wasn't doubting his managerial credentials and he may very turn out to be a very successful one, but he leaves a very bad taste in the mouths of supporters of clubs he has been involved with
The man has no morals and no regard for people he has trampled on in his desire to succeed, his name is still chanted on the terraces at Farnborough in a not very flattering way !

It can be a problem with some ambitious people. It's why I hate the obsession with our culture of trample on anyone to succeed in the UK, no matter the consequences - and those that wont deserve their place.

Hoping he can show some change as a person, we don't know him well enough, it seems he's moved away from the long ball at least while here, which is a start. He's nicknamed Mr Medals for his stupid comments at Preston, though Preston squad got a few good managers sacked, so I don't think it's a fair reflection on him

I don't know what happened at Farnborough, I'd like people who make mistakes to apologize, I'd like to see DM (chairman) publish an apology for his stupid comments a few years back in a Huddersfield program too - as they hate us now, but we also have a culture where it's seen as weakness to admit you were wrong :O(

What happened at Farnborough?

I read... missing money, and no proper exit plan, yeah I can see how bad that is.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 08:10:28 PM »

A lot of what you say I agree with and I agree you were lucky to lose last night but having Farnborough as my local team, I can categorically say that Westley is an arsehole 

He wasn't well received, but we all make mistakes, hopefully he's developing as a manager. Grant McCann is probably the one pulling the strings RE tactics, and he does know talent when he see it, something he has shown with some of the players that came in.

I see it that this is a second chance.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 07:55:00 PM »

PPS Sorry Baggies, I didn't mean to be so brutal in my feedback, stuff doesn't translate so well in text what is meant to be a single fans perspective. I think jacko was the original poster which prompted me to join and correct a few facts and reference respect, so maybe this mini confrontation was brewing, with us all being wired wrong'n all according to the friendly SmethDan

I really hope you can stay up and find form, though like many style of football is a big deal to me.

Don't think I ever thought Posh were a better squad just because we did ok, this is just thoughts not translating well in text. Though some stuff about the defensiveness and youthful self-confidence of some fans holds given jacko's response, and the backlash against any criticism by the BBC. I was merely trying to say that Pulis has mad some bad calls on recruitment, and I am sure there were one or two certs they could have got from the championship for the same money - it's not like Rondon or Lambert ever set the world on fire, and this is one of the things that alarmed me about Pulis spending. I'm sure every player who played is twice the player they were on Wed - confidence is a big thing.

I do think if Pulis cannot turn it around you need to get rid soon, but I object to people suggesting that because our patched up attack struggled to break though that "WBA actually set out to play this badly, or that anything other than exhaustion was how you managed a few good chances - the blinkers again"

IF WBA set out to do the minimum there is no way they would have played the first team, and I am keen for those with blinkers to not conveniently forget  we had a patched up team too.

My takeaway message in more placid terms to jacko is that the premier league isn't the be-all and end all - especially once you get to a more mature age - hence my trying to talk up the FL (perhaps a bit too much), and try not to take things so personally.

Anyway I'll be here for another hour or so - as I've been really lethargic this week, and any excuse to do nothing. Do watch Britt, Davey, and a few of those players mentioned though, some of them will get to the prem I'm sure.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 07:38:48 PM »

Who in our squad are journeymen?

I have some empathy with your desire to promote the lower divisions of the Football League, & you're quite right to highlight some of the players who have potential to succeed in the EPL, but you're wrong about WBA's attitude to player development. We had two guys on the bench last night in Tyler Roberts & Jonathan Lepko who are products of our academy, & who Tony Pulis is considering incorporating into our first team squad. Indeed your own club will benefit from Adil Nabi another product of our academy.

From what I have experienced, the difference between EPL players & those in the lower divisions, isn't technical, it's character. In the penalty shoot out we kept our cool, two of your guys didn't, as a consequence, we won, you lost. What will be telling is how well your guys deal with it.

Much younger, I think the experience told. I'm sure they'll be OK

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 07:15:19 PM »

Peterborough, you're not very good. Neither were Port Vale, neither were Bristol City, we've done the absolute bare minimum to get through, your post seems to suggest that in 3 or 4 months your League One side will be a better team than West Bromwich Albion, it's just not true, the players you have highlighted (the vast majority of which have played for Peterborough) are League One/Championship players (Britt Assombalonga - garbage) for a reason, the others are players from Premier League clubs on loan for experience. The joke of any small club referencing Jamie Vardy, who most Leicester City fans have NEVER rated until this season.

Reading will suffer the same fate as your shower in the next round.

Another point you made I'll correct for you, if Peterborough had Pulis in charge you'd get promoted, and then you'd stay in the Championship (would make a change huh?), and then you'd push for promotion again. Your current manager is a cnut of the highest order and your chairman's try to score the most goals in the country while selling your best players ethos will cost you any actual success.

Enjoy the next few seasons in the 3rd tier.

That's quite funny - that you think Britt Assombalonga is garbage, we'll see where he is when he's 26, because before he got injured he was leading the top goalscorer charts in the champ last season in his first year at that level

The rest, it's not worth answering, I didn't even read half of it. I liked the pre and post match debates, but you've been a disrespectful backside to Posh on a number of posts, so I'll think of you when you are back in the championship, though for the rest of your fans, I hope you get it together.

I don't think for a minute that being able to win one match makes posh anywhere near good enough to be even in the championship, but you are a first class example of a fan who needs to take the blinkers off.

Posh fans voted with their feet when dross was served, and that would have happened whatever division we were in. Not being obsessed with status, I'm quite happy to watch us grow, to be in and around the championship, you seem to mistake us for fans who give a rubbish about being further down the pyramid, what matters is that the club are trying to do things the right way on a small budget, and are slowly getting people coming back, and those that do are mostly leaving happy and proud.

I'm impressed you know our manager so well, because most of us, all we have seen is about an hour or footage from interviews, and that really isn't enough for me to say whether he is an arsehole or not, he's made a good start here though from our perspective. If Pulis was given the job here I'm pretty sure there would be a revolt, whether or not he could keep us in the championship.

Other responses to my critique have posted rationally - valid points that WBA cannot afford to keep 20 youngsters on in case they make it, and clearly maybe only three of Poshes squad will ever probably grace the premier league, and that will be a year or two away at least (though I think if they looked into the FL the money for Lambert and Rondon would have been much more wisely spent)

Perhaps go put some ice on your head to cool down. I hold no love for Darragh, so slagging him off is really like getting angry and punching the postman. Like our chairman it seems you cannot take criticism, nor do you have the ability to reflect and debate rationally.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 04:47:30 PM »

Thats hurt reading that.

But so very true. 

hugs baggies, I'm not looking to make enemies, just seeing parallels to us 6 months ago.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 04:22:18 PM »

All decent players but there is a reason they are playing at a level or several levels below the Prem.

Samuelson and Forrester do look good though

Kemar Roofe was released by us...as he wasn't good enough

Paul Caddis??? errr I don't think so

OK, he looked OK at Huddersfield

Roofe wasn't good enough, we'll see where he is in a few years. Jamie Vardy playing at a nobody club, I suppose he isn't good enough either.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 04:19:58 PM »

it hurts to say it but posh were ok but how many saves did ben foster have to make? we had many more shots on target and could easily have won 4-0 or 4-1.did mr.shearer mention that at all while giving his glowing assessments? remember that we won,look in the record books in 12 months time it will say wba won and into 5th round ,not how great posh were and tell that to their ignorant and disrespectful chairman, manager and durham.

Remember you were playing a team who just lost their main goal threat, and a new signing who was cuptied. Couilthirst had only played about three games for the Posh having been there less than three weeks, and Angol hasn't scored in months, and was in and out of the squad. Couilthirst was not that great last night either. The player who came on Coulibaly I fear his career at posh is now over being behind Angol, Nichols, Couilthirst and probably Nabi and Samuelson in a more advanced position when up to speed

Had you been playing against Washington, or against us with those players 4 months down the line - I think we'd have won, as it was we looked a bit blunt and inexperienced up front. It is easy to talk about how you got through, and you had a patched up side, but so did posh - and the most expensive player on the pitch was quite a bit less than £1 mill with addons, Baldwin and Bostwick)

I know the result is technically all that matters on the night, but over the season I fear some of your fans are a bit blinkered when being critical of the inevitable media bias, that posh didn't have a major goal threat is not a reason to think things are OK (and both teams had a make shift defence on display)

If Pulis was at posh we'd have less than 4,000 fans turning up, and almost certain he would have lasted less than 6 months - still if he keeps you in the prem, maybe that's enough, but you can't call conspiracy and bias because you don't like what other people think of the style of play and energy levels.

Personally you don't look like a premier league side, and don't think for a minute we are a top two league one side, because we are top six at best until our front six or so players have developed enough for two to stand out as league one starters on a regular basis.

I read a lot on here about your fans supportive of Pulis not liking the bias, and dismissing any criticism - but sometimes it is warranted even though it hurts. We managed to get a muppet Dave Robertson replaced for the same poor results and non football, where our most skilled players were told they could leave, now they start week in and week out, we score three times more goals and get twice as many points. Players like Boswick looked like some of yours do now, a manager that sucks the life out of the football eventually damages the players will to play, no attacker wants to defend for 90 minutes.

It seems some of the fans on here have some sort of victim mentality, if this style gets you results, then that is all good, but you must understand people are going to be critical, and with context on Posh's also patched up attack and defence - the excuses don't wash when you consider the budgetary differences between the two clubs.

These games are never easy, but there are no circumstances where Posh should have been so easy on the eye against a premier league team for such long periods of the match, and that warrants questions being asked however uncomfortable on the direction and performances of WBA.

Given the quality of players in the FL personally I don't get why so many managers still go for journeymen, big money Europeans, and sell all their youth assets, when you could buy players 2 years before they are ready and loan them to the championship to get them ready - look at Jamie Vardy, Rondon look a joke for a 26 year old, at least ours have only played a handful of matches with their whole career ahead of them.

Cutting I know, but I'm trying to help some of your fans take the victim blinkers off.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 11, 2016, 03:24:01 PM »

I'm pretty sure there are a load of youngsters in L1 who will be better than your current squad within 12 to 18 months, but then Pulis likes his journeymen


Adam Armstrong - Newcastle United (18) FC (on loan at Coventry) - Newcastle fans want him back given a chance

Jacob Murphy - Norwich (?) WINGER (on loan at Coventry)

Jack Baldwin - Posh (22ish) CB - multiple premier league bids turned down - played out of position against McClean last night

Anderson - Posh (19sih) MC - overrated though (long term injury)

Chris Forrester - Posh (23) MC - price tag now at around £8 Million

Martin Samuelson - West Ham (18) AM (on loan at posh)

Alex Davey - Leicester City (correction - Chelsea) (20/21) LB (was on loan at posh - watch this name)

Bradley Dack - Gillingham (22) FC - don't really rate him myself

Yanik Wilschut - Wigan (24) WINGER - similar to Samuelson

Kemar Roofe - Oxford (?) AM/FC/WINGER

Ed Upson - Millwall (26) MC

Paul Caddis - Birmingham City (27) RB

Britt Assombalonga - Notts Forest (22ish) FC

.....

I'm sure there are lots more, hopefully the premier league might start taking their attitude towards the FL a bit more seriously and giving the players a chance before casting them off only to see themselves getting bitten five years later

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 10, 2016, 11:08:37 PM »

We are a team full of injuries and out of form, we were never going to go to Peterborough and outclass them. Cup ties with lower league teams are always dangerous, we managed to get through. Once we get some confidence back performances will improve. I think we'll remain comfortable in the league and we're one game away from the quarter final.

Posh had a 3rd choice LB and 3rd choice RB too, and an attacking front two who have hardly played together(which was probably why we couldn't make our play count) :O)

Your fitness and quality in the end gave you enough to create winning chances though, but you can't use the injuries excuse.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate

« on: February 10, 2016, 10:28:55 PM »

Congrats WBA, I'm sure it will be a big game for our youngsters to take experience from.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 10:00:03 PM »

Bostwick never seemed to make it beyond Championship, could he play in prem?

maybe he just likes it at Posh or something

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 09:56:20 PM »

Sess can beat his man but McLean never quite seems to get past his.

Baldwin premier league bound though, Fox is 3rd or fourth choice at LB, Baldwin is 3rd choice at RB (1st choice CB)

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 09:52:58 PM »

You've got the best player on the ptich

Not ours though West Ham.

Future International Star, amazing player for age

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 09:49:25 PM »

Posh equally injury hit

CB playing in LB (Baldwin 6)
Zakuani first game in 5 months (CB 25)
Fox only 2nd start (LB)
Washington Sold to QPR our leading goal scorer
Nabi, Nichols ineligible
Anderson out long term  in CM

We look so tired now (Posh)

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 09:35:18 PM »

Posh need to take Fox off (18), exhausted, and Poshes weakest player good almost debut for the young player though

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 09:24:08 PM »

Whoever wins, the club and its fans are grateful for the replay, it paid for Tom Nichols

Given 6 months hopefully we'll get our cutting edge back for a big season in 2016

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 09:09:54 PM »

You look like the players want Pulis out not just the fans

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 08:55:15 PM »

Expecting posh to bring on Oztumer or Maddison in 2nd half as we don't have a decent set piece taker on the pitch

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 08:40:17 PM »

Question is do I watch the second half? 

As a posh fan I'm delighted with the performance until the 35 min point, nothing to be bored/embarrassed by

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 08:36:30 PM »

Wonder what the viewing figures for this are!

As a posh fan I don't really care. BBC partially responsible for feeding the lack of publicity and promotion in the 80's and 90's and still pick teams which play on BT and Sky every few weeks for their ties over smaller clubs. I have no sympathy

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 08:29:40 PM »

I'm not just talking about bias maiakaat. They just said Berahino has a shot with the outside of his boot. He hit it on his instep. It's been like that all night so far (Pearce said we had twon teenagers on the bench - we have three, and said our game at the Hawthorns was a 3-3 draw!)

Welcome to the ignorance we suffer all the time - we're looking a bit disjointed and vulnerable now - hope we can keep you out if this continues for the next 5 mins

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat

« on: February 10, 2016, 08:24:09 PM »

Thought that SB shot was in