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Re: Darren Moore
« Reply #2575 on: January 13, 2019, 10:15:49 AM »
Said it before in this thread....I think he's punching above his weight so far as seen with the loss of Barnes and and Phillips Yesterday . I won't defend him on late subs at times but there really isn't much quality on the bench.
Yesterday Norwich could bring Rhodes on , our only option is Sako who has yet to show much.
If Lai wants his money back then Moore needs backing not past it free's or begging bowl to other clubs.

I am 100% behind Darren Moore and I don't have a massive issue with his substitutions.

Having said that I don't think you can point to the Norwich bench or their squad and say Farke has far better options. In terms of strikers aside from Rhodes they have Oliveria who has not played a single first team minute this season (not in the squad) and Dennis Srbenny who has not played at a level higher than the German 3rd division before joining Norwich and scoring 1 goal in 12 outings.

 It has been 3 seasons since Rhodes has had a heavy goal scoring season (a 1/3 of the goals he has scored this season have been against us) and he is the type of forward if he isn't scoring hatfulls doesn't give you a hell of a lot else. He is on loan from Sheffiled Wednesday. I might swap him for Sako but then again I don't much rate Sako although as a squad player he is lot more versatile.

The shinning light for Norwich this season is Pukki and I absolutely guarantee that had we signed on a free from Brondby most of the Albion twitterati would have been underwhelmed.

The rest of the squad is the typical Championship mix of promising youngsters and a sprinkling of steady eddies e.g. Krul Tettey and Klose. Other than Rhodes the bench consisted of players who are barely household names in their own household.

No Albion fan can deny we don’t have the numbers.  Sako, Wes and Mears all added in the Autumn as free agents in top of what we had.

Whether we have the quality in depth is the major question?

For me tough decisions have to be made NOW on suitability of our players.  I wouldn’t be against getting rid of 5 and bringing in the same number in THIS window.  There are loads of players who haven’t done enough in the first 5 months.  Adding more with no exits will create even more selection confusion than we have now IMO.

I don't think Darren can accused of not knowing his best XI and when everyone is fit he is fairly consitent in his selection and formation. I don't think shipping 5 in and 5 out is practical nor even that desirable.

This kind of surgery can only happen in the summer and I suspect it will be unavoidable then.
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« Reply #2576 on: January 13, 2019, 10:22:40 AM »
  I wouldn’t be against getting rid of 5 and bringing in the same number in THIS window.  There are loads of players who haven’t done enough in the first 5 months.  Adding more with no exits will create even more selection confusion than we have now IMO.

5 in 5 out in January when we're just 3 point behind second seems a bit OTT to me. We're very much still there with a lot of football to play. I would condone Hoolahan and Mears out with 2 in though.
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« Reply #2577 on: January 13, 2019, 10:24:23 AM »
If ok to play i think his favoured midfield 3 is Phillips, Livermore, Barry. Which works very well.
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« Reply #2578 on: January 13, 2019, 11:11:45 AM »
5 in 5 out in January when we're just 3 point behind second seems a bit OTT to me. We're very much still there with a lot of football to play. I would condone Hoolahan and Mears out with 2 in though.

I think Mears might go (unless MCFC have an option to recall Tosin), think Hoolahan might well stay for the rest of the season
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« Reply #2579 on: January 13, 2019, 11:17:04 AM »
5 in 5 out in January when we're just 3 point behind second seems a bit OTT to me. We're very much still there with a lot of football to play. I would condone Hoolahan and Mears out with 2 in though.
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And any goalkeeper from anyone (except krull) because the one we have is shocking at decision making and makes the boys in front of him nervous, people keep saying he's young, he's a year older than Pickford and the same age as pope , yesterday Gibbs really told him about himself but he's been an accident waiting to happen all season
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« Reply #2580 on: January 13, 2019, 01:40:37 PM »
Mears
Hoolahan
Phillips (not our choice)
Barnes (return)
Johnstone. (Yes Johnstone)

holgate (loan)
Emile smith Rowe (loan)
Ollie Watkins
Nemecha or nketiah on loan

And any goalkeeper from anyone (except krull) because the one we have is shocking at decision making and makes the boys in front of him nervous, people keep saying he's young, he's a year older than Pickford and the same age as pope , yesterday Gibbs really told him about himself but he's been an accident waiting to happen all season

Do you not recognise that the club has had no official ‘ expert ‘ goalkeeper coach for the best part of 3 months ?

He is doing ok and his decision making is far from shocking.

This constant negativity towards him and others is irritating.

Johnstone is going nowhere so people may aswell get used to it .

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« Reply #2581 on: January 13, 2019, 04:17:31 PM »
Do you not recognise that the club has had no official ‘ expert ‘ goalkeeper coach for the best part of 3 months ?

He is doing ok and his decision making is far from shocking.

This constant negativity towards him and others is irritating.

Johnstone is going nowhere so people may aswell get used to it .
Ask yourself why it feels like constant negativity?
My opinion (and many others) is that he is just not good enough,opinions are allowed on here ?
At 26 he should be ready now and he clearly is not,so are you saying you agree and he’s been below par because of no specialist coach,or are you saying he is good enough??...in which case the lack of coach wouldn’t be an issue?
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« Reply #2582 on: January 14, 2019, 08:52:12 AM »
Ask yourself why it feels like constant negativity?
My opinion (and many others) is that he is just not good enough,opinions are allowed on here ?
At 26 he should be ready now and he clearly is not,so are you saying you agree and he’s been below par because of no specialist coach,or are you saying he is good enough??...in which case the lack of coach wouldn’t be an issue?
Have to agree to be fair. I sat looking down the goal line Saturday and he just looks either nervous or half asleep. His positioning on corners is shocking, he basically hides in the crowd with no intention of commanding his area. Should have done better with the goal and got away with a couple where he pushed saves back into play.
Hopefully the new (old) coach can bring him some confidence. If so, he could be a decent shot stopper but, my thoughts are that crosses will never be "his thing"

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« Reply #2583 on: January 14, 2019, 09:12:54 AM »
To put Darren's reign in context: nominated for Manager of the Month in 4 of 6 months he's been eligible for it (Premier League AND Championship). Beaten Pochettino, Mourinho, Benitez, Bielsa; drawn with Klopp. Had the spine of his team removed: Foster, Evans, Krychowiak, Rondon. Given precious little money to replace them approx £8 million. Far more competitive than Stoke and Swansea, top scorers and best goal difference in the division, decent passing football, cemented in the play off places and 3 points off the auto's with plenty of games left to play. Shrewd operator in the loan market. Restorer of pride.


Cheers Darren, long may you reign.

Yes he has flaws but the positives you list (very well BTW) far outweigh the flaws.
If he was perfect he would be headhunted as quick as.

Keep it up Darren, work on the flaws and hopefully we all see the benefits.
(By way of comparison,  The Norwich manager (forgot his german name) was very close to losing his job not long ago, but has adapted and is now getting loads of plaudits).
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« Reply #2584 on: January 14, 2019, 10:21:08 AM »
Tall lad should be better at corners and high balls coming in from out wide. Disappointed that he didn't do better with equaliser

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« Reply #2585 on: January 14, 2019, 10:31:44 AM »
Tall lad should be better at corners and high balls coming in from out wide. Disappointed that he didn't do better with equaliser

In fairness to Darren he only leaves his technical area to go to the bog, allegedly.....  ;D  ;) .
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« Reply #2586 on: January 14, 2019, 01:19:47 PM »
There was literally no one on the bench to bring on to sure up the midfield (and keep control better than Barry and Brunt were).


Lack of subs didn't cost us today. A silly forwards tackle and numerous missed chances did.

This

We was absolutely comfortable - we possibly could and should have made a change to provide fresh legs but lets face it, it was hardly a backs to the wall job.

Our management of the game on Saturday was very good. It is just a shame that our forward decided to sprint 30 yards back to clatter one of their players.

Had Gayle not been so stupid, we win 1-0, and everyone on here is waxing lyrical.
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« Reply #2587 on: January 14, 2019, 01:30:25 PM »
Regarding the subs issue, my opinion is that we should have replaced Gayle much earlier, and injected fresh legs. If you look at the way Hoolahan retained possession against Wigan, maybe he would have been a good option.

What I did notice again on Saturday was the lack of discipline. I saw Brunt commit a couple of silly fouls quite early, and put it down to his lack of legs against more mobile players. But every time Norwich played for a foul, we went for it. The players aren't being smart or disciplined enough, and we eventually paid for that when a tired Gayle gave away a silly foul.

Also, I hate to say it, as much as Moore has given us a bit more to be proud of, I can't see him being manager if we aren't promoted. As little as he's had to work with, I think there is pressure on him to get us back up from above. And I think Lai and co will want us promoted, as little interest as they have in it, and might not be forgiving of the circumstances.

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« Reply #2588 on: January 14, 2019, 08:17:35 PM »
This

We was absolutely comfortable - we possibly could and should have made a change to provide fresh legs but lets face it, it was hardly a backs to the wall job.

Our management of the game on Saturday was very good. It is just a shame that our forward decided to sprint 30 yards back to clatter one of their players.

Had Gayle not been so stupid, we win 1-0, and everyone on here is waxing lyrical.


He's been told before not to do that as well. The two wide men are supposed to stay up the field and not go chasing back. Dwight needs to learn this. As much as anything if our wide men keep tracking back we will have no outlet we'll start to get penned in in games.

Too eager for his own good and probably as a result of the British mentality of always giving 100%. Sometimes less is more.

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« Reply #2589 on: January 26, 2019, 05:17:50 PM »
5 academy players on the pitch today

 Well done darren

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« Reply #2590 on: January 26, 2019, 05:21:00 PM »
5 academy players on the pitch today

 Well done darren
Agree..and hopefully the same 5 players will feature in the replay too...

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« Reply #2591 on: January 26, 2019, 05:33:46 PM »
Doing a fantastic job. Very proud of our club, manager and team at the moment.

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« Reply #2592 on: January 26, 2019, 06:39:32 PM »
Doing a fantastic job. Very proud of our club, manager and team at the moment.
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« Reply #2593 on: January 26, 2019, 10:41:19 PM »
Great result today.  I hope DM backs the players we have for rest of season.  I don't understand why we need to go into the market.  The rule is don't sign anyone unless they are better than what you have.  The only gripe is we need to move on from HRK.  We have players here already that could do better.

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« Reply #2594 on: January 26, 2019, 10:47:59 PM »
Great result today.  I hope DM backs the players we have for rest of season.  I don't understand why we need to go into the market.  The rule is don't sign anyone unless they are better than what you have.  The only gripe is we need to move on from HRK.  We have players here already that could do better.
Barnes gone and Phillips injured, Sako as good as gone, Burke out on loan that's a major dent in our pace options. If we have the funds we'd be daft not to be looking for at least one replacement.
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« Reply #2595 on: January 27, 2019, 09:00:15 AM »
If he has learnt anything from yesterday then I hope it’s that he shows a bit more faith in the academy graduates. Harper has taken his chance when offered and field showed his capabilities in that central midfield role.

Those two in particular should have had more minutes this season
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« Reply #2596 on: January 28, 2019, 01:50:20 AM »
Doing a great job. I'm not sure about the criticism of his lack of minutes for the young players. I was delighted and proud at the fighting display yesterday but if you watch the match Brighton over ran us at times. I want Field to succeed and would love him to be great for us but I wouldn't say he has been brilliant when he has played. I can see why Moore has played Livermore, Barry, Morrison ahead of him this season.

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« Reply #2597 on: January 28, 2019, 05:50:57 AM »
Doing a great job. I'm not sure about the criticism of his lack of minutes for the young players. I was delighted and proud at the fighting display yesterday but if you watch the match Brighton over ran us at times. I want Field to succeed and would love him to be great for us but I wouldn't say he has been brilliant when he has played. I can see why Moore has played Livermore, Barry, Morrison ahead of him this season.


Agree, Field offered the back 4 precious little protection on Saturday, Brighton had just shy of 25 shots on goal. In possession he was very much 'safety first' sideways and backwards. Not good enough yet.
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« Reply #2598 on: January 28, 2019, 11:42:19 AM »
Field had a good game Saturday, gave the ball away a couple of times first half but grew into it after that and had a good game. You cannot blame one man for another team having 25 shots on goals, its a team game and not at all safety first, he played some decent stuff going forward as well.
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« Reply #2599 on: February 01, 2019, 06:57:44 AM »
I'm behind Darren Moore.  To be truthful after the 3 signings we need to get top 2.  I feel the board have done their bit in the Summer and 31 Jan with getting players.

IMO on reflection we have made some mistakes with keeping Brunt, Morrison, HRK and most certainly signing Bartley for 4.5m.

There is no reason to play these guys with all the options available.

Maybe it's me but I can't help recalling what Megson achieved twice and 2001/02 is up there with our greatest seasons in history.