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Title: 1 Mar 2019 Leeds United 4 Albion 0
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 16, 2019, 09:35:45 PM
Leeds United v West Bromwich Albion

Friday 1st March 2019 19.45pm

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Title: In Game Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 16, 2019, 09:36:42 PM
Leeds United v West Bromwich Albion

Friday 1st March 2019 19.45pm

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Title: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 16, 2019, 09:37:02 PM
Leeds United v West Bromwich Albion

Friday 1st March 2019 19.45pm

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Title: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 16, 2019, 09:41:29 PM
Leeds United v West Bromwich Albion

Friday 1st March 2019 19.45pm

PRICES

Allocation: 2,500

£39 Adults, £26 Seniors 60+, 16-22, £18 U16, £9 U11

PRICES RISE BY £5 ON THE DAY (EXCEPT JUNIOR CATEGORIES)

SALE DATES

Away Season Ticket Holders - Monday February 4
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Members Online - Monday February 18
Members Online/ In Person/ Phone - Monday February 25
General Sale - Monday February 25

For upto date ticket info
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Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on February 18, 2019, 02:51:15 PM
Leeds United Twitter Account

Kemar Roofe will face a period on the sidelines following confirmation that he damaged knee ligaments during the win over Swansea

That could be a great assist for us!
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Andio on February 20, 2019, 02:34:09 AM
Have we sold out?

No tickets showing on official site.

If anybody has a spare could they let me know please via PM.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: SmethDan on February 20, 2019, 08:53:58 AM
Have we sold out?

No tickets showing on official site.

If anybody has a spare could they let me know please via PM.

No chap, just been on the site.

Block C17 (327 remaining) and Block C16 (43 remaining) are currently on sale.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Andio on February 20, 2019, 01:33:08 PM
No chap, just been on the site.

Block C17 (327 remaining) and Block C16 (43 remaining) are currently on sale.

Cheers Dan, I had a blonde moment and wasn't signed in when I went on there last night. I set my browser to remember me but it didn't this time.
Title: sauces coaches
Post by: TP-albion on February 20, 2019, 09:37:01 PM
anybody got his number & knows what time it goes from Dudley port
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 21, 2019, 07:56:23 AM
so a leeds fan said we paid the league to get promoted :)

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/974814819?-11200:789


Again like my views on the Sheff Utd Thread we should be getting a result here and have nothing to fear, player for player no contest
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on February 21, 2019, 10:23:26 AM
so a leeds fan said we paid the league to get promoted :)

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/974814819?-11200:789


Again like my views on the Sheff Utd Thread we should be getting a result here and have nothing to fear, player for player no contest
They can't suck up the fact we've got a late win, simple as that. I'm sure they've got away with their fair share this season. There's no denying we've had a bit of good fortune on our side lately, and the two key examples are a handball equaliser for Rodders and the penalty dive by Gayle,  but as always in football it seems to be the blame game. Honest truth is, we've deserved our results this season because we've had cutting edge, and perhaps villa and forest aside i can't think of too many other clear examples.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on February 21, 2019, 10:24:26 AM
Huge game, but those prices are absurd for a televised game...
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on February 22, 2019, 11:36:22 PM
would take a draw against these. onus more on them to win. hopefully we have Phillips back in the side and we grind another away win
Title: Commentary
Post by: throstle on February 23, 2019, 10:42:10 AM
Commentary on Talksport 2

https://talksport.com/radio/schedule/2019-03-01/#talkSPORT2-Schedule
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on February 24, 2019, 10:44:03 AM
Need to win this one just to keep in touch.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: elkiellis on February 24, 2019, 02:02:26 PM
we always win away,no different here
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on February 24, 2019, 04:37:21 PM
I think the most we can hope for is a draw, a win and I’d be ecstatic
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 24, 2019, 08:12:55 PM
Leeds are also playing away at QPR on Tuesday night.  Could be an advantage for us.

Crazy really how TV can dictate to clubs when they play.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Adder on February 24, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Yes given their Tuesday game we have to make sure we are fresher and more energetic than Leeds on Friday night in a similar way to how Sheff Utd were with us.

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 24, 2019, 11:57:24 PM
Must win.


Don't want to see Livermore at all or Rodriguez marginalising Gayle, who we now need to build this big promotion push around for the last 12 games. Would love to see Brunt and Morrison return to the squad for the final push.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: rajesh-wba on February 25, 2019, 01:13:13 AM
If we defeat Leeds on Friday, our record against Norwich (Home & Away), Sheffield United (Home & Away) and Leeds (Home & Away), would read P 6 W 4 D 1 L 1.
A terrific return.

We will have an advantage as Leeds play Away on the Tuesday. We need to take advantage of this. Our start to the game is crucial.

I hope Hegazi and Hal Robson-Kanu are fit and available.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on February 25, 2019, 04:28:24 AM
                               Johnstone

Holgate           Dawson           Hegazi             Gibbs

                               Barry

                Phillips                        Harper

                               Rodriguez

               Robson-Kanu                 Gayle


Subs: Bond, Mears, Adarabioyo, Livermore, Johansen, Hoolahan, Murphy         



When we played Leeds at The Hawthorns that was the first time we abandoned the three at the back and went 4-3-3. Leeds weren't expecting that they wouldn't have prepared for us playing like that and it showed we stuffed them 4-1.

I would do a similar thing this time as well. Our away form is excellent but it's been against lesser teams this game is far more difficult and we need an edge. Leeds will expect us to set up 4-3-3 with two wide forwards, they won't be expecting us to play a diamond with two men through the middle up top. Leeds like their centre backs to play on the ball as well, HRK and Gayle harassing them all match may unsettle them. We have the advantage on them here as they play on Tuesday and we have two days extra rest. We need to get at them from the start, don't let them settle and we can win this game.   

         
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on February 25, 2019, 09:26:27 AM
                               Johnstone

Holgate           Dawson           Hegazi             Gibbs

                               Barry

                Phillips                        Harper

                               Rodriguez

               Robson-Kanu                 Gayle


Subs: Bond, Mears, Adarabioyo, Livermore, Johansen, Hoolahan, Murphy         



When we played Leeds at The Hawthorns that was the first time we abandoned the three at the back and went 4-3-3. Leeds weren't expecting that they wouldn't have prepared for us playing like that and it showed we stuffed them 4-1.

I would do a similar thing this time as well. Our away form is excellent but it's been against lesser teams this game is far more difficult and we need an edge. Leeds will expect us to set up 4-3-3 with two wide forwards, they won't be expecting us to play a diamond with two men through the middle up top. Leeds like their centre backs to play on the ball as well, HRK and Gayle harassing them all match may unsettle them. We have the advantage on them here as they play on Tuesday and we have two days extra rest. We need to get at them from the start, don't let them settle and we can win this game.   

       

Not true we've beaten Norwich and Sheffield Utd away
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 25, 2019, 09:39:36 AM
Not true we've beaten Norwich and Sheffield Utd away

When we beat Norwich and Sheffield United we had Harvey Barnes.  We were a far better side then with him in the team. Our recent away wins have been against lesser teams.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 25, 2019, 09:43:35 AM
When we beat Norwich and Sheffield United we had Harvey Barnes.  We were a far better side then with him in the team. Our recent away wins have been against lesser teams.

The Norwich game was also only their second game of the season (our 3rd) and long before they hit their rich vein of form.

We have recently beaten Stoke who were in the premier league with us last season and also Villa, not sure either of those are really lesser teams. Depends on what you mean by "lesser" I guess.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on February 25, 2019, 10:02:38 AM
Not true we've beaten Norwich and Sheffield Utd away


Yes, I mean recently.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 25, 2019, 10:07:32 AM
The Norwich game was also only their second game of the season (our 3rd) and long before they hit their rich vein of form.

We have recently beaten Stoke who were in the premier league with us last season and also Villa, not sure either of those are really lesser teams. Depends on what you mean by "lesser" I guess.

The position in the table defines lesser.  They are middle or lower table teams.  In fact both teams have probably got more chance of being relegated than promoted !!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on February 25, 2019, 10:18:19 AM
The position in the table defines lesser.  They are middle or lower table teams.  In fact both teams have probably got more chance of being relegated than promoted !!
Then all but 3 are "lesser" teams?
Very positive stat that.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 25, 2019, 10:25:57 AM
Then all but 3 are "lesser" teams?
Very positive stat that.

So all the teams are middle or lower except three ???????

Sorry , I don't understand !!!!
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: rajesh-wba on February 25, 2019, 10:37:48 AM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/february/leeds-clash-now-on-general-sale/

2,000 sold

500 remaining seats
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on February 25, 2019, 10:47:13 AM
I'll have the mute button on if that biased Dingle Don is commenting one of the main reasons we need to get promoted
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on February 25, 2019, 10:49:35 AM
I'll have the mute button on if that biased Dingle Don is commenting one of the main reasons we need to get promoted

Put WM on along side and listen to Bomber scream when the goals go in.
Not sure if there's a delay on the radio.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on February 25, 2019, 10:50:21 AM
So all the teams are middle or lower except three ???????

Sorry , I don't understand !!!!
The very fact that, only 3 teams are not "lesser" and 20 are, suggests we are doing pretty well.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 25, 2019, 10:58:15 AM
So all the teams are middle or lower except three ???????

Sorry , I don't understand !!!!

you said that Villa and Stoke were lesser teams due to their league position so therefore all teams below us are lesser teams.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 25, 2019, 11:06:18 AM
you said that Villa and Stoke were lesser teams due to their league position so therefore all teams below us are lesser teams.

I also said that they are lesser because they are middle or lower league placed teams.  I don't class the top 8 in that category !!!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 25, 2019, 11:19:29 AM
I also said that they are lesser because they are middle or lower league placed teams.  I don't class the top 8 in that category !!!!

so you are classing 16 teams as lesser than us then due to league position. It's pointless then saying that we have only beaten lesser teams since 2/3 of the league are lesser teams by your own definition.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 25, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
so you are classing 16 teams as lesser than us then due to league position. It's pointless then saying that we have only beaten lesser teams since 2/3 of the league are lesser teams by your own definition.

Interpret the comments how you like .  I'm not interested what you think.

It's not exactly rocket science is it  !!!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 25, 2019, 12:09:51 PM
Interpret the comments how you like .  I'm not interested what you think.

It's not exactly rocket science is it  !!!!

no it's definitely not rocket science.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on February 25, 2019, 12:31:36 PM
Sitting here looking at a computer screen wondering what rocket science and teams further down the table have got to do with our match against Leeds. I'm sure it'll come to me in a minute. Anyway, huge game and I've succumbed to temptation and will be in attendance for this one having chosen it over going to QPR. Come on Albion, please make it worth my while with three much needed points on Friday.

COYB  8) .
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: KN22 on February 25, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
Must win.


Don't want to see Livermore at all or Rodriguez marginalising Gayle, who we now need to build this big promotion push around for the last 12 games. Would love to see Brunt and Morrison return to the squad for the final push.

I fully support any player that an Albion manager selects to play; no exceptions. However if we really have to rely on Brunt and Morrison for the final push I dread the outcome.
I think the fact that we have a full week to prepare whereas they don't should work to our advantage. Need to get a result if we possibly can. If not you do start to feel that automatic has gone.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: FallOutBoy on February 25, 2019, 12:41:38 PM
If we have any realistic hopes of automatic promotion, we need to go there and win. Nothing less.

If the beat QPR, then that will see them 7 points and Norwich 6 points ahead, with 12 games left, and us doing poorly at home.

Think it'll be the play-offs lads.
Title: Drinking Holes
Post by: Dan87uk on February 25, 2019, 12:54:56 PM
Heading up on the coach! Assuming we arrive on time/no traffic problems, where is best to pitch up for a drink near the ground are we thinking?
Title: Re: Drinking Holes
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 25, 2019, 01:00:49 PM
the Old Peacock on Elland Road is opposite the ground, don't know if it's home fans only on a match day though. It also has an Indian restaurant attached called Spiced Mango.

http://www.theoldpeacock.co.uk/

Title: Re: Drinking Holes
Post by: SmethDan on February 25, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
It's been a while since I've been to Elland Road but from memory the Old Peacock was home supporters only. Having just looked on Google Maps we ended up using a place called The Drysalters which is about ten minutes or so further down the road from Elland Road. They allowed both home and away supporters on the day and had big screens for the football. Wasn't a bad place to be fair and the service was decent.

Link provided........

http://www.thedrysalters.co.uk/index
Title: Team
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 25, 2019, 01:56:27 PM
     
     Assuming Hegazi doesn't make it and Murphy is fit again.


                                                    Johnstone

                          Holgate             Dawson                Adabarioyo       Gibbs

                               
                                   Phillips               Barry           Johansen

                             Murphy                       Gayle              Rodriguez

Subs Bond, Mears, Bartley, Harper, Morrison, HRK, Montero
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Pureade1 on February 25, 2019, 06:09:56 PM
Make no mistake about it this is huge for us to stay in the automatic hunt we must win! Looking forward to it but nervous as well for this one.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Baggies on February 25, 2019, 07:05:05 PM
With our away form, and Leeds having to play on the Tuesday and then the Friday night, I am more confident than I usually would be, but this is probably our last chance if we are going to challenge the top 2.

I’ve felt for a while that we don’t really stand a chance of catching the top 2, but we keep the fight alive with a win on Friday, especially if they lose on Tuesday as well,
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiemart on February 25, 2019, 07:34:34 PM
With our away form, and Leeds having to play on the Tuesday and then the Friday night, I am more confident than I usually would be, but this is probably our last chance if we are going to challenge the top 2.

I’ve felt for a while that we don’t really stand a chance of catching the top 2, but we keep the fight alive with a win on Friday, especially if they lose on Tuesday as well,

I agree. However, I think  Norwich and Sheffield United are the ones to catch.  Leeds struggled against Bolton on saturday and only won with a lucky goal which the Bolton keeper should have dealt with. That's why our result ( and performance) on Saturday was so disappointing. That was our chance to take control of this league and push on. 

If we turn up on Friday we should win. We have probably got tougher matches to come Bristol City away and Birmingham at home could be tougher than the Leeds trip.
Title: Match Officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 26, 2019, 09:03:37 AM
Referee: Tim Robinson.
Assistant Referee: Ian Cooper
Assistant Referee: Matthew McGrath
Fourth Official: Geoff Eltringham

Reffed our 2-0 win against Millwall and our 2-3 defeat to Middlesbrough.
Title: Re: Match Officials
Post by: AlbionFan on February 26, 2019, 09:25:28 AM
Tim Robinson Match Stats

Games: 26
Yellow Cards: 96 (ave 3.69 per game)
Red Cards: 7 (ave 0.269 per game)
 
Title: Re: Drinking Holes
Post by: Dan87uk on February 26, 2019, 10:33:31 AM
Had a quick look yesterday at the peacock option and it looks like that's for home fans only, The onyl two places that will accept away fans are the Drysalters 10 mins away and a small bar right next to the away entrance (didn't catch the name)

Assuming we don't get there at a stupid time the Drysalters looks like the best bet!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TiptonThrostle on February 26, 2019, 10:34:47 AM
Must win if we are to finish in the top 2. simple as that.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on February 26, 2019, 12:17:02 PM
If we have any realistic hopes of automatic promotion, we need to go there and win. Nothing less.

If the beat QPR, then that will see them 7 points and Norwich 6 points ahead, with 12 games left, and us doing poorly at home.

Think it'll be the play-offs lads.

We need to go on a run like we did to overhaul the dingles in our first promotion season.
Big Dave should know all about that he was part of it, he needs to instill that will and spirit of that team into our current incumbants
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: SmethDan on February 26, 2019, 12:32:01 PM
Logged onto the OS last night and just now for a quick gander at sale rates.

No option to buy Leeds tickets online so presumably a glitch or it's telephone sales only now.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Powelly on February 26, 2019, 12:58:07 PM
Logged onto the OS last night and just now for a quick gander at sale rates.

No option to buy Leeds tickets online so presumably a glitch or it's telephone sales only now.

I noticed that this morning. Also on the article above it now says telephone and in person only and you must be registered on the clubs database to buy a ticket.

I did see either on here or social media rumours Leeds fans had purchased tickets in Albion end so whether the club have got wind of this and changed the sales procedure?
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: SmethDan on February 26, 2019, 01:02:56 PM
I noticed that this morning. Also on the article above it now says telephone and in person only and you must be registered on the clubs database to buy a ticket.

I did see either on here or social media rumours Leeds fans had purchased tickets in Albion end so whether the club have got wind of this and changed the sales procedure?

Makes sense now given they've sold out the home ends.

https://www.lufc.talent-sport.co.uk/PagesPublic/ProductBrowse/VisualSeatSelection.aspx?stadium=ER&product=LWBA18&campaign=&type=H&productsubtype=&productIsHomeAsAway=N
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Andio on February 26, 2019, 01:28:45 PM
Are you sure we haven't sold out ourselves?

When I had a look on Sunday night, there was only 100 tickets remaining....

EDIT: Just seen this post:

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/february/leeds-clash-now-on-general-sale/

2,000 sold

500 remaining seats

There wasn't 500 on sale when I looked 10 hours before that post, just the 100 I mentioned. So perhaps some where being held back?
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Powelly on February 26, 2019, 01:59:48 PM
Are you sure we haven't sold out ourselves?

When I had a look on Sunday night, there was only 100 tickets remaining....

EDIT: Just seen this post:

There wasn't 500 on sale when I looked 10 hours before that post, just the 100 I mentioned. So perhaps some where being held back?

There was a block left to go on sale.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on February 26, 2019, 02:31:11 PM
Looks like we could be without Hegazi for this one, reports suggest he has a muscular injury.
Just hope we don't have to draft 'Calamity Kyle' in.
I go for Tosin in and abandon tippy tappy at the back for this one.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: throstle on February 26, 2019, 03:46:00 PM
There was a block left to go on sale.

Block C15 had just been put on sale when I looked at 10 o'clock on Monday morning, with only a few seats taken and the rest available. However when I next looked a couple of hours later it was no longer possible to book online, so something must have happened in that time which caused the club to withdraw online sales.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 26, 2019, 10:03:09 PM
GAME ON!!! We're going up!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Team
Post by: baggiebof on February 27, 2019, 10:09:25 AM
I am going to assume that Hegazi doesn't make it but that everyone else is available. I think we will sit in and counter, a mirror of the first game really, hopefully we can get the right result. Something they did well against us in the first game was switch the play, we will need legs in midfield to combat this which is what I've gone for with me selection:

Johnstone

Holgate
Dawson
Adarabioyo
Gibbs

Phillips
Field
Johansen

Gayle
Rodriguez
Murphy

Bond, Mears, Brunt, Barry, Harper, Morrison, Robson-Kanu

If Hegazi makes it then he comes in, Adarabioyo drops to the bench with Mears dropping out. My selection leaves out Livermore which will obviously not happen but i'd much prefer the mobility of the three in there.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on February 27, 2019, 10:42:07 AM
GAME ON!!! We're going up!!!  ;D
Hope springs eternal. Just when you think it's all doom and gloom, something happens to re-ignite the fire.
We really MUST seize the opportunity this time. Our current form is still better than leads so we should go in for the kill.
I love this game at the minute, which is something I thought I may never say again only a couple of years back.
COYB.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: KN22 on February 27, 2019, 12:54:02 PM
Johnstone

Holgate - Dawson - Adarabiyo (Hegazi if fit) - Gibbs

Phillips  - Barry - Johansen

Murphy - Gayle - Rodriguez

Need the energy of Johansen but, if selected, he needs to find his Fulham form.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: liverbaggie on February 27, 2019, 01:16:58 PM
Harper in for Johansen.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: mulliganstired on February 27, 2019, 01:51:21 PM
     
     Assuming Hegazi doesn't make it and Murphy is fit again.


                                                    Johnstone

                          Holgate             Dawson                Adabarioyo       Gibbs

                               
                                   Phillips               Barry           Johansen

                             Murphy                       Gayle              Rodriguez

Subs Bond, Mears, Bartley, Harper, Morrison, HRK, Montero
Something like this, although I wouldn't be surprised if Moore gives HRK a start
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BigFrank20 on February 28, 2019, 01:34:31 PM
Leeds United will name an unchanged team against West Bromwich Albion on Friday, Marcelo Bielsa has confirmed
The Whites manager has often revealed his starting XI for matches this season and has done the same for tomorrow’s promotion showdown.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leeds-united-team-news-wba-15901037

Starting XI: Casilla, Ayling, Jansson, Cooper, Alioski, Phillips, Hernandez, Roberts, Klich, Harrison, Bamford

Subs: Peacock-Farrell, Douglas, Dallas, Berardi, Brown, Shackleton, Gotts
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on February 28, 2019, 01:38:31 PM
Leeds United will name an unchanged team against West Bromwich Albion on Friday, Marcelo Bielsa has confirmed
The Whites manager has often revealed his starting XI for matches this season and has done the same for tomorrow’s promotion showdown.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leeds-united-team-news-wba-15901037


We have six days rest compared to their two and we know the team they will put out.

If we don't beat them tomorrow night it will be the low point of the season by some way. We have all the advantages we simply have to win this game surely?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TiptonThrostle on February 28, 2019, 02:05:47 PM

We have six days rest compared to their two and we know the team they will put out.

If we don't beat them tomorrow night it will be the low point of the season by some way. We have all the advantages we simply have to win this game surely?

When its all in our favour like that mate Albion normally let you down.

We just HAVE to win tomorrow otherwise its play offs. i dont have a good feeling about tomorrow. i just hope the management make the correct decisions.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albionic on February 28, 2019, 02:20:38 PM
what happens in every "must win" game,  ???
2-0 Leeds  :'(
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on February 28, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
Leeds United will name an unchanged team against West Bromwich Albion on Friday, Marcelo Bielsa has confirmed
The Whites manager has often revealed his starting XI for matches this season and has done the same for tomorrow’s promotion showdown.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leeds-united-team-news-wba-15901037

Starting XI: Casilla, Ayling, Jansson, Cooper, Alioski, Phillips, Hernandez, Roberts, Klich, Harrison, Bamford

Subs: Peacock-Farrell, Douglas, Dallas, Berardi, Brown, Shackleton, Gotts

I wouldn't be surprised if that's not the team. Just seems the sort of thing Bielsa could pull.

Name a team early and follow through with it on a number of occasions, only to do it and switch it up just when everyone thinks the information can be relied upon. 



Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: superkev on February 28, 2019, 05:13:08 PM
Has everyone got their tickets ok mine are not here yet ???
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Andio on February 28, 2019, 05:58:03 PM
Has everyone got their tickets ok mine are not here yet ???

No, I had to ring up the ticket office today. I now have to collect from the away ticket office when I get there. They said they had posted it out but I never got it.

I thought it was strange as I normally get my daughters tickets the day after I book them.

When did you book yours by the way?
Title: Re: Team
Post by: ranvir wba90 on February 28, 2019, 06:23:58 PM
Johnstone

Tosin
Dawson
Hegazi

Holgate
Barry
Johansen
Gibbs

Phillips

Gayle
Rodriguez
Title: Re: Team
Post by: liverbaggie on February 28, 2019, 06:41:14 PM
Harper for Johansen for me guys.
Johansen hasn't got up to speed for me,too important a match to put him in to start anyway.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: caravanc58 on February 28, 2019, 07:35:08 PM
big boost with Hegazi available tomorrow. with Murphy and HRK we should be able to field a strong first 11 and subs bench.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: mikehy on February 28, 2019, 08:36:33 PM
Johnstone
Holgate
Dawson
Hegazi
Gibbs

Phillips
Barry
Johanson

Hrk
Gayle
Murphy

Subs bond meats Bartley Livermore Harper Montero Rodriguez
Title: Re: Team
Post by: BoingFlyer on February 28, 2019, 08:59:55 PM
Johnstone

Holgate
Dawson
Hegazi
Gibbs

Phillips
Barry
Murphy

Hrk
Jrod
Gayle

Shame to drop Harper and Field but I think Barry, Phillips and Murphy gets the nod with the extra experience for this one..
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BoingFlyer on February 28, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47327055

Leeds United will be unchanged for the visit of fellow Championship promotion contenders West Bromwich Albion.
Head coach Marcelo Bielsa has said he will select the same starting XI and substitutes that lost 1-0 against QPR on Tuesday.

Names the side early, there would be an uproar if Moore did that especially with all the injuries they have at the mo. Feeling quietly confident about this but Eland Road can be a tough place to go to. An early goal should turn the crowd on there own team.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on February 28, 2019, 11:48:27 PM
Purlease. Not Kanu to start.
He falls over too easily. He cannot hold a ball up.
He gets one decent shot away about once in ten games.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: hunsletbaggie on March 01, 2019, 06:53:54 AM
Big game for me this one living and working in Leeds.
A couple of Leeds fans at work have been saying we only have to turn up and we will win but I said did you see us against Sheff Utd.
I would take a draw and hope we can improve our home form but personally I don't think Darren's got the tactical ability to beat Bielsa in his own back yard and it will cost us 2-0 Leeds.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:58:35 AM
Big game for me this one living and working in Leeds.
A couple of Leeds fans at work have been saying we only have to turn up and we will win but I said did you see us against Sheff Utd.
I would take a draw and hope we can improve our home form but personally I don't think Darren's got the tactical ability to beat Bielsa in his own back yard and it will cost us 2-0 Leeds.

I'd argue that we didn't "turn up" (in a football sense) against Sheff Utd.

When I was at the music college in Leeds, about 30 years ago, I used to do a cleaning job at the Tetley Brewery in Hunslet to get extra cash. I lived in Harehills (I know!)
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 01, 2019, 08:33:36 AM
3-1 leeds
Title: Re: Drinking Holes
Post by: Mikkyk on March 01, 2019, 10:48:33 AM
Had a quick look yesterday at the peacock option and it looks like that's for home fans only, The onyl two places that will accept away fans are the Drysalters 10 mins away and a small bar right next to the away entrance (didn't catch the name)

Assuming we don't get there at a stupid time the Drysalters looks like the best bet!

Is it Billy's Sports Bar? Just guessing from Google Maps.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 11:39:59 AM
As always, there is very little difference between the teams being touted, which is surprising, considering how we get slated when we lose.

Only one has gone 3 at the back so 433 seems to be universally accepted.
The back 5 is consistent, as are Barry, Harper, Rodriguez, Phillips and Gayle.

Seems he's getting it right for me so, if we don't win, it will be because their players were better than ours on the night.

Fancy us to bounce back though.
1-2 Gayle x 2
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on March 01, 2019, 11:49:28 AM
4-0 Albion.

Yep, you read it right.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: baggiebof on March 01, 2019, 12:02:19 PM

Only one has gone 3 at the back so 433 seems to be universally accepted.


Certainly no problem in the way we set up for away games and/or against teams that will have more of the ball.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: liverbaggie on March 01, 2019, 12:53:06 PM
I don't think that we have really clicked as a team yet,know what I mean?
Its overdue for a clicking,tonights the night,0-2 wba.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: wimbledon baggie on March 01, 2019, 04:51:31 PM
0-2 baggies
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: hunsletbaggie on March 01, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
I'd argue that we didn't "turn up" (in a football sense) against Sheff Utd.

When I was at the music college in Leeds, about 30 years ago, I used to do a cleaning job at the Tetley Brewery in Hunslet to get extra cash. I lived in Harehills (I know!)
Brewery shut down now building a college there.
Harehills still as rough though!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggies_24 on March 01, 2019, 06:52:29 PM
What in god formation are we playing tonight? Has he got Tosin lb? Can’t believe it’s the same midfield as last Saturday as well
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TiptonThrostle on March 01, 2019, 06:54:05 PM
Massive gamble by Moore with that team. Townsend on the bench but looks like he’s putting a centre half there. I hope to god this pays off.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: mulliganstired on March 01, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
I predict 1-1 and would settle for that right now, a few more spins of the wheel to go yet, and if we can't do Ipswich next week, we don't deserve to go up.  Having a few nerve tonics right now.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 06:56:30 PM
With the players available I think that's a very poor side.


Hugely disappointed Phillips hasn't stayed fit.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TiptonThrostle on March 01, 2019, 06:58:20 PM
I predict 1-1 and would settle for that right now, a few more spins of the wheel to go yet, and if we can't do Ipswich next week, we don't deserve to go up.  Having a few nerve tonics right now.



Nothing less than a win is good enough tonight. Fail to win and it’s play offs.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: lewisant on March 01, 2019, 07:00:44 PM
Width will be an issue. Tosin must br LB which is a position he's been awful in previously. Not bring Murphy in with Phillips out after his performance (in open play!) V QPR.

Let's hope HRK has his 1 in 10 performance but i think that happened just 3 or 4 games back.

Not impressed with that team.

Just have Townsend in at LB, Murphy in for HRK and i'd be way happier.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on March 01, 2019, 07:00:57 PM
Looking at that team I think we’ll do well to get a point
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: CL3MO on March 01, 2019, 07:01:18 PM
What on earth is that team!?

If we have a flat back four and Adarabioyo LB, god help us.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Dexy on March 01, 2019, 07:01:44 PM
Can't understand Tosin at LB , won't be much attacking threat down that side. Threat at corners I suppose , very slow midfield again.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: frazzle on March 01, 2019, 07:03:54 PM
On the face of it, it’s a poor selection. Maybe there is something very clever in there - maybe some sort of swivelling back four with Holgate largely right midfield - but it’s not obvious.

Phillips a worry.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 07:05:10 PM
Could it be 3 at the back with Holgate pushing forward? Seems strange to have a right footer novice at left back with Townsend available.
Oh well, we can still win this.
Coyb
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: wimbledon baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:05:13 PM
With the players available I think that's a very poor side.


Hugely disappointed Phillips hasn't stayed fit.

I agree about Philips. Seems to be made of glass.

HRK has a good nuisance value and has played decent  recently. Hopefully Gayle and J Rod can feed off the knock downs. Got pace on the bench for later if needed. I'm hoping for a QPR style performance.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 07:06:48 PM
I agree about Philips. Seems to be made of glass.

HRK has a good nuisance value and has played decent  recently. Hopefully Gayle and J Rod can feed off the knock downs. Got pace on the bench for later if needed. I'm hoping for a QPR style performance.


I'm concerned about every area of the team. That should not be the case.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 01, 2019, 07:09:59 PM
Surprising team, would have rather seen Brunt at left back in the absence of Gibbs but see us going with the 3 centre halves
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 07:11:48 PM
Not happy with that team.

Hope to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: superkev on March 01, 2019, 07:14:02 PM
No, I had to ring up the ticket office today. I now have to collect from the away ticket office when I get there. They said they had posted it out but I never got it.

I thought it was strange as I normally get my daughters tickets the day after I book them.

When did you book yours by the way?
!

20th over 9 days ago !!!!!!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 07:19:06 PM
I'll take a point right now seeing that team.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggiebof on March 01, 2019, 07:19:54 PM
Lack of mobility and pace in that team is deeply troubling me, at least there are options off the bench.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 07:20:02 PM
Surprising team, would have rather seen Brunt at left back in the absence of Gibbs but see us going with the 3 centre halves


Should still be a back 4 with Holgate moving to left back, Tosin back to right back, just an entirely unnecessary reshuffle with Townsend available.


I'd have had Johansen in midfield and Murphy straight back in,  with Montero sacrificed as the 6th loan.


I hope we don't regret this.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: tuamigos on March 01, 2019, 07:21:39 PM
Purlease. Not Kanu to start.
He falls over too easily. He cannot hold a ball up.
He gets one decent shot away about once in ten games.

he's going to score, you just know it
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 01, 2019, 07:22:04 PM

Should still be a back 4 with Holgate moving to left back, Tosin back to right back, just an entirely unnecessary reshuffle with Townsend available.


I'd have had Johansen in midfield and Murphy straight back in,  with Montero sacrificed as the 6th loan.


I hope we don't regret this.

Amazed Brunt not on the bench even just to fill in at left back if needed late on for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 07:23:23 PM
Amazed Brunt not on the bench even just to fill in at left back if needed late on for whatever reason.


Still injured I believe.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 01, 2019, 07:33:23 PM

Still injured I believe.

Nope, fully fit when I asked him yesterday
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: maximus on March 01, 2019, 07:37:52 PM
Same problems at the weekend, No pace or creativity in that team, Just plodding pro's in the middle. No set-piece taker either which is even more laughable to see who takes them tonight. Were there for a draw so hopefully we get it.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: maximus on March 01, 2019, 07:43:12 PM
Pretty sure big dave says the same thing before/after a match, It's like auto-reply.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: section5 on March 01, 2019, 07:48:07 PM
Wow our positioning as a team and individuals is so bad sometimes. What a way to start the game. I
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Down already
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 07:48:38 PM
pooh
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 07:48:42 PM
what a joke.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 07:49:10 PM
As I keep saying,  this lad doesn't save anything. Dreadful start.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 07:49:17 PM
Wtf was that !! Give the ball away from the kick off and then don't defend..shocking
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on March 01, 2019, 07:49:32 PM
Jesus wept. From OUR kick off.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 07:49:42 PM
They were all a yard to slow already
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 07:50:54 PM
We’ve started on fire as ever I see...

Every game it’s sliggish
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: section5 on March 01, 2019, 07:51:53 PM
As I keep saying,  this lad doesn't save anything. Dreadful start.
Not his biggest fan but nothing he could have done with that. He should have been closed down so much quicker.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:52:04 PM
Rubbish corner again
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Adamstv on March 01, 2019, 07:52:29 PM
Adabiyro gave him far too much space. No chance for Johnston
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 07:53:50 PM
Townsend on bench because they don't trust tosh stupid selection
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:53:53 PM
Free kick in their half...The ball goes back to Johnstone ! >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 07:54:48 PM
That wasn't Johnstones fault. No way, saw it late, no pressure on the attacker. I feel sorry for Tosh in a way, constantly shoehorned into the wrong position by the Dynamic Duo.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:56:04 PM
They have worked it out.....We are slow and labouring all the time. No pace !
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2019, 07:56:15 PM
Well, at least we'll be saving £10m....real battle to make even the play offs. We used to be decent against the better sides but 1 point from Norwich, Sheffield United, Middlesbrough, and Leeds from the last 4 games against them is appalling.

As I keep saying,  this lad doesn't save anything. Dreadful start.

Ridiculous to blame the keeper for that. If you want to be blaming someone be asking how the team managed to get in a position to concede in 20 seconds when they had kick off - appalling.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 07:56:21 PM
Not his biggest fan but nothing he could have done with that. He should have been closed down so much quicker.


Agree he's no way at fault. Would love to say even once this season 'brilliant Sam, got no right to save that.' Still waiting.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 07:56:39 PM
Who would have thought playing Tosin at LB would cost us? I mean he looked inept at RB and that was at least on his natural foot. Moore is an utter joke.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 07:57:13 PM
Yet again, lack of pace, lack of energy, lack of work rate, against a team who seem to have more desire.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: MrDominicRoberts on March 01, 2019, 07:57:46 PM
What the hell has happened to our passing?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:57:48 PM
Are we playing "statues" again?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on March 01, 2019, 07:57:56 PM
The space and time for Leeds on the ball is unbelievable, same as last week.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 01, 2019, 07:59:00 PM
Early days yet, at the moment just need to stay in the game, go 2 behind and we are in trouble
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 07:59:36 PM
Almost another for them  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 08:00:40 PM
What does he say to the players before kick off? Every game it takes them 20 mins to realise what sport they're playing.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 08:01:21 PM
Is there a new rule that we aren’t allowed to run?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:01:26 PM
Who does Harper play for? Rubbish tonight.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:02:19 PM
Carrying on as per Sheffield.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
Is there a new rule that we aren’t allowed to run?
This is known as walk football
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on March 01, 2019, 08:04:30 PM
Did pulis pick the team.
So big Dave signs a left back to understudy gibbs and doesn't pick him when gibbs is injured.
Again a midfield 3 where 2 can't run
And we have 2 wingers on the bench with strikers out wide with you would so our least effective striker through the middle
Please put the woeful duo out of there misery
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 08:04:34 PM
Leeds well up for this...we look like we are 20 points clear and the result doesn't really matter...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 08:04:42 PM
Got to say, much as I detest Leeds, they are great to watch.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:05:00 PM
We HAVE to sacrifice one of the strikers for a proper wide left.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:05:56 PM
Is there a new rule that we aren’t allowed to run?
Another question is...Are we allowed to pass to our own man?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 08:06:10 PM
We’ve barely played well all season despite people telling me we have been so entertaining. This is nothing knew.

I’ve only just seen the bench. What on earth is Darren thinking?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on March 01, 2019, 08:06:22 PM
Who does Harper play for? Rubbish tonight.

Seems rather harsh!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 08:07:31 PM
We HAVE to sacrifice one of the strikers for a proper wide left.

Welcome to 15 games ago. Gayle on the left wing, utter nonsense
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
Hegazi on the left now?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:09:01 PM
What I would say is Leeds will be knackered after about 35 mins.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: 17GD on March 01, 2019, 08:09:26 PM
Same old problem. We cannot close down. It's been going on for weeks and we get punished every time.

Look at Leeds players when we attack, straight on us, no room at all. We give their players at least 10 yards space.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 08:10:16 PM
This is not acceptable.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:11:27 PM
Two terrible free kicks from Barry.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:12:48 PM
Johnstone is playing for time yet again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2019, 08:13:35 PM
Barry only suits games where we're either well in control of possession or are sitting very deep absorbing pressure when he can just use his positioning. Open games against teams moving the ball quickly and he's horrific.

The exact same happened on saturday where all his passes were terrible because he can't keep up with the pace of the game. Get him off for Field, get one of the forwards off for someoe who can link midfield and attack.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 01, 2019, 08:14:10 PM
We're really not very good are we? Or not as good as we think we are most likely  ???
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
Dread to think what Marco Bielsa makes of a player like Livermore.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: 17GD on March 01, 2019, 08:14:51 PM
Game over. Play offs at best now.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 08:15:02 PM
Haven't seen JRod or Livermore make one complete pass yet...2-0 and game over..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 08:15:25 PM
Struggle to make the play offs. Awful play, awful manager, awful tactics
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:15:39 PM
2 !!  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:15:54 PM
2 nil. Mountain to climb Dawson so poor and again no save.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 08:16:14 PM
Nothing has changed all season. Good players playing in a broken system that doesn't even make sense. The players haven't looked comfortable since Barnes left, and he's changed absolutely nothing. Ignoring the joke of Tosin at left back. Why are we still setting up with 3 centre mids and 3 strikers? Gayle still on the left is unbelievable. What is stopping him from making a tactical switch or sub in the first half? He's such an awful and ineffective head coach.

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: smudger 2007 on March 01, 2019, 08:16:21 PM
Exactly what we deserve awful
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:16:40 PM
Their passing is so fluid...Ours is kick and hope again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbarenno on March 01, 2019, 08:17:10 PM
2 nil. Mountain to climb Dawson so poor and again no save.

You can’t blame the keeper for either of those goals, it’s the clowns in front of him that are to blame
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on March 01, 2019, 08:17:23 PM
Sod this, up at 5am for work, going to bed.

I tell you what, look at the league table, if the few clubs behind us win their games in hand then we will be struggling to hold onto a play-off place at this rate.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: P Anderson on March 01, 2019, 08:17:36 PM
The movement throughout this team is shocking. It was shocking at the start of the season and still is. Long night ahead
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 08:17:42 PM
This is going to be a thrashing.

One of my problems with Pullis was his lack of Plan B, Big Dave has no Plan B either. The problems are glaringly obvious but no changes are made. Is it arrogance or inflexibility!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 08:17:53 PM
Outwitted by any manager with half a clue. Unable to react. As one dimensional as Pulis.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 08:17:56 PM
Seen this performance so many times this season, just finally against a half decent set of players. No coaching, no tactics, awful team selection, please go Darren
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 08:18:12 PM
Awfull as usual
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: merson94 on March 01, 2019, 08:18:20 PM
Atmosphere is too much for us no wonder we never win at home we can't match this
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: kirk on March 01, 2019, 08:18:32 PM
Again no tactics no system no clue.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:18:33 PM
You can’t blame the keeper for either of those goals, it’s the clowns in front of him that are to blame
Who picked this defence?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: section5 on March 01, 2019, 08:18:42 PM
Gayle needs to be upfront not on the wing, why jrod gets preference I'll never know. Our midfield and defence are getting annihilated at the moment.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 08:18:46 PM
Dreadful team selection getting what we deserve...guess we didn't send a spy to watch them train!!!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbarenno on March 01, 2019, 08:19:09 PM
Who picked this defence?

Darren Moore not the goalkeeper
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mini gaardsoe on March 01, 2019, 08:19:12 PM
This is shambolic. Too late now but Moore shouldn’t be in charge, totally clueless. How long until he changes anything?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: lewisant on March 01, 2019, 08:19:21 PM
Who played a few days ago?!

We look shot for the season
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:19:26 PM
We don't attack in force...Only 1 or 2 at a time.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: section5 on March 01, 2019, 08:19:47 PM
Again no tactics no system no clue.

100%

We relied on individuality for too long, found out and exposed
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: 17GD on March 01, 2019, 08:19:56 PM
You can’t blame the keeper for either of those goals, it’s the clowns in front of him that are to blame

Yes poor defence, but SJ once again doesn't come out to close him down. He's utter gash.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: CL3MO on March 01, 2019, 08:20:27 PM
I’m embarrassed to watch this. The midfield is an utter shambles. What did the manager think was going to happen with that pathetic team selection tonight?

We’ve made a right pig’s ear of this season with the squad we’ve got.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 08:20:42 PM
damage limitation job after 30 minutes. can't recall ever seeing so many players i an Albion team so incapable of passing a ball. it's worse than non league standard. opposition teams sussed us out ages ago and we've done f all to change it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:20:49 PM
You can’t blame the keeper for either of those goals, it’s the clowns in front of him that are to blame


I'm not blaming him.


Tosin must do better there (the header)
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:20:57 PM
Rubbish at heading too.
What has happened to us?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tylerm on March 01, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
2 nil. Mountain to climb Dawson so poor and again no save.

Your constant comments about Johnstone make you look really foolish
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:22:16 PM
Everytime they come forward, I am expecting us to let them have a goal
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Brooklynbaggie on March 01, 2019, 08:23:15 PM
How bad are we?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
I was against it for a long time but i'd like to see DM put out of our misery before he ruins the chance of us getting in the play offs.

Leeds still full of running. I'm off to bed.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on March 01, 2019, 08:24:03 PM
Your constant comments about Johnstone make you look really foolish

Only the comments about Johnstone?  ;D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: maximus on March 01, 2019, 08:24:11 PM
Holgate is just begging to be sent off
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on March 01, 2019, 08:24:19 PM
Can’t wait for DM to defend this at the end of the game
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:24:30 PM
Your constant comments about Johnstone make you look really foolish


Your inability to understand context makes you look really foolish...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 08:24:43 PM
what a difference a Harvey Barnes made..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:26:17 PM
I know our passing is atrocious, but it seems that we don't want to even try to pass.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbawill on March 01, 2019, 08:26:30 PM
Holgate is going to get sent off at some point this season, guaranteed.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
Anybody got a clue what tactics we are employing to try to win this game? Any semblance of a game plan?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:28:30 PM
Our song for Rodriguez will go down as one of the most ironic in the history of the club...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
Plan is a 4 lettered word for Darren
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 08:29:12 PM
Why do we persist with fannying about with it at the back when they are pressing us so high, I would suggest we clip the ball over leaving their attacking players out of position, but that would involve us being able to pass the ball more than ten yards.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 01, 2019, 08:30:12 PM
Best squad in the league my backside
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbawill on March 01, 2019, 08:32:31 PM
Plan is a 4 lettered word for Darren

I mean... It's a four lettered word for all English speakers.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: telford baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:33:48 PM
I was against it for a long time but i'd like to see DM put out of our misery before he ruins the chance of us getting in the play offs.

Leeds still full of running. I'm off to bed.
been saying it for along time he is doing nothing but an average job wiyh squad we have...not good enough and he is not good enough as a manager clueless...ex player or not time to go
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on March 01, 2019, 08:34:40 PM
This has been coming for a while.
Lucky against forest played poorly
Lucky against qpr played poorly
Played poorly against Sheffield United
And still we stick to a formation that doesn't suit us.
And still he puts square legs much like pulis.
No plan b.

And how good must Johnny Evans have been to make Dawson look like a decent defender.
Jay rod and Livermore abysmal footballers
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tylerm on March 01, 2019, 08:35:54 PM

Your inability to understand context makes you look really foolish...

You have blamed him for both the goals. Can’t really take that out of context
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dexy on March 01, 2019, 08:36:19 PM
Whats really worrying is this is another game where we are being out worked on the pitch .
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheBrom on March 01, 2019, 08:36:31 PM
Another absolute joke of a performance.

Another game against a team around us where we’ve not turned up.

Another game where the opposition wants it more than us.

And another huge game that we’re again finding ourselves losing.

Dreading next season.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on March 01, 2019, 08:36:50 PM
Get ready for a long period as championship also-rans
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Pie on March 01, 2019, 08:37:05 PM
outclassed.

got to change formation at HT Darren. If we stay the same its 3 or 4-0 at FT
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on March 01, 2019, 08:37:24 PM
The Leeds players are running around like lunatics. Our players are jogging in first gear. Livermore probably the worst offender. Our shape and system is a shambles. Gayle on the left wing all wrong and J-Rod in the middle ruins any attack by kicking the ball straight to the opposition. Same as the last few weeks. Moore watches this ever week and repeats the same rubbish tactics and selection.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: smudger 2007 on March 01, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
What a half🙈 he’s gotta change the formation and at leat two of the personnel at half time. He won’t though guarantee it. Barry and Livermore are so slow together and harper doesn’t work back it’s a dream midfield to play against
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on March 01, 2019, 08:37:48 PM
Best squad in the league my backside

Best squad yes.

Head coaches who know how to set them up. Hell no
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: koren on March 01, 2019, 08:38:03 PM
If no changes at HT we were done.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: maximus on March 01, 2019, 08:38:10 PM
We all pretty much called it before the match with that lineup, When we don't have runners with the ball( Barnes, Phillips, Murphy, Gibbs ) then we struggle.

And these players get Dubai trips, £10 million incentives...... They don't even look like they know what there doing, As for Moore then his too stubborn, Gayle out wide FFS again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: WBArgo on March 01, 2019, 08:38:52 PM
Terrible performance, completely outclassed in tactics and heart. I think many feared the wheels would fall off after losing Barnes and it seems to be true.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boot2006 on March 01, 2019, 08:39:12 PM
Passing terrible, shape terrible, concentration terrible, no pressing, poor marking, no energy, WTF is going on? Darren, again this one is 100% down to you.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 08:39:24 PM
Leeds seem so much more up for this. Quicker, stronger and just more up for it. Our passing is so poor but our forwards seem to constantly anticipate losing the ball and step away from the challenge.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 01, 2019, 08:39:49 PM
I see the Livermore and Johnstone haters are on here again.
Johnstone blameless
Livermore best of a poor midfield
Harper, a game too far
Barry, not in it
Gayle wide left, and Murphy on the bench FFS.
Tosin hung out try dry again, hang your head in shame Mr Moore
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: kris_boing on March 01, 2019, 08:40:33 PM
The good news is we can't perform any worse 2nd half.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 08:40:41 PM
I defy anyone to now claim that this is the best squad in the division, they are absolutely shocking can’t pass 5 yards. Moore might be poor but Mike Bassett couldn’t coach players to be this bad,. No lcomposure, no quality.
Can’t defend Moore tonight though.
Leeds will get at least 4 and we won’t get 5 so game over.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on March 01, 2019, 08:40:48 PM
Wrong line up for me I’m afraid. We need mobility and pace. Livermore doing ok for me but Barry not in the game. Tosin not playing well but played out of position. We need to get both Townsend and Murphy on minimum.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: maximus on March 01, 2019, 08:41:25 PM
Phillips/Barnes were the catalysts too our setup first half of the season, We struggle without pace as it leaves us with plodding midfielders and strikers outwide. Baffles me how professional managers even carry on making the same mistakes expecting different results.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 08:41:43 PM
have we had an effort on target?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:42:41 PM
You have blamed him for both the goals. Can’t really take that out of context


I haven't blamed him for either goal.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mini gaardsoe on March 01, 2019, 08:42:47 PM
As bad as anything under Pulis and Pardew. Moore just ain’t a manager. Unfortunately the longer he goes on, the more he’s going to ruin his legend status. Absolutely no clue what our game plan is tonight, it’s a shambles
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on March 01, 2019, 08:42:54 PM
have we had an effort on target?

Yes Rodriguez effort tipped over the bar
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 08:43:07 PM
The good news is we can't perform any worse 2nd half.
you sure?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:46:10 PM
2 nil is a dangerous score for both sides. If we introduce Morrison and Murphy for Livermore and Rodriguez and get the next goal they may implode. If we stay as we are and concede that next goal it could be a rout.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BoingFlyer on March 01, 2019, 08:46:52 PM
Sat with a leeds fan, reckons this is the best they have played all season and we have not come up with any answers to that performance.

Midfield is non existant providing nothing to the front. Awful performance. Taticallly not a lot different from two sides they just have the best squad who are are up for the game.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 08:48:24 PM
2 nil is a dangerous score for both sides. If we introduce Morrison and Murphy for Livermore and Rodriguez and get the next goal they may implode. If we stay as we are and concede that next goal it could be a rout.
Agreed but I worry about Murphy in a physical game against Leeds strong defenders.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 01, 2019, 08:48:33 PM
To think we had the advantage of not playing in midweek. I am getting concerned about missing the playoffs, too many loan players who may become disinterested and the old guard thinking about where they might end up next season. I exclude Holgate from those comments, now he is a fighter!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on March 01, 2019, 08:49:29 PM
Come on Big Dave show us all that you deserve the jod & do have a plan B & C.
COYB
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 08:49:57 PM
You wouldn't think that Leeds have played 3 games in a week...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 08:50:16 PM
Get ready for a long period as championship also-rans

If we’re lucky. With this manager and a worse squad League One could beckon.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 01, 2019, 08:50:36 PM
2 nil is a dangerous score for both sides. If we introduce Morrison and Murphy for Livermore and Rodriguez and get the next goal they may implode. If we stay as we are and concede that next goal it could be a rout.
Wrong game for Morrison mate, not enough energy and no bottle. We need a fighter in midfield.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: bangkokbaggie on March 01, 2019, 08:50:44 PM
Get ready for a long period as championship also-rans

I think that has been predicted by a few at the start of the season. The club is going stale with no ambition and planning for the future and with a manager who clearly won't risk our promising youngsters bar one or two. What is going to happen at the end of the season when all these loan players go back and what will the club do with all these players we own that are well past their best?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wimbledon baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:52:34 PM
I think that has been predicted by a few at the start of the season. The club is going stale with no ambition and planning for the future and with a manager who clearly won't risk our promising youngsters bar one or two. What is going to happen at the end of the season when all these loan players go back and what will the club do with all these players we own that are well past their best?

going to be a financial bloodbath...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tylerm on March 01, 2019, 08:53:03 PM
As I keep saying,  this lad doesn't save anything. Dreadful start.

Not blaming him ?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:53:15 PM
Wrong game for Morrison mate, not enough energy and no bottle. We need a fighter in midfield.


We need quality link play imo. Sitter missed HRK.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:53:40 PM
Not blaming him ?


No. Read the next post.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:53:44 PM
Open goal virtually..RK misses.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:55:25 PM
So slow at deciding to pass.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:56:05 PM
I’m just hoping Leeds tire. Really tire
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 08:57:12 PM
No half time changes, would have happily bet £100 he'd do nothing. Weak as p*ss and so naive it's worrying.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 08:57:49 PM
Rubbish corners and free kicks.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 08:58:12 PM
Better so far. Make the changes Darren.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Brooklynbaggie on March 01, 2019, 08:58:37 PM
At last some fight
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: CL3MO on March 01, 2019, 09:00:24 PM
Tactic for the season:man gets ball and runs aimlessly until he’s tackled.

Only difference? No Phillips or Barnes.

No passing exchanges. No intricate play or passing triangles.

What is this!?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on March 01, 2019, 09:00:33 PM
Jay rod off Dawson off
Murphy and Townsend on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:02:07 PM
Barry doing a good impersonation of a cart horse.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 09:02:54 PM
The lack of pace is killing us when we have the ball.

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 01, 2019, 09:03:06 PM
Leeds are starting to take the urine now
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:04:20 PM
Completely devoid of any ideas...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: 17GD on March 01, 2019, 09:04:28 PM
Barry needs subbing before he gets a red.

You only need to look at the response of that Leeds defender who cheered when the ball ran for a goal kick. They want it WAY more than we do. We're clueless.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 09:04:46 PM
Mozza coming on for Barry
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:05:33 PM
Free kick back to Johnstone...We have beat 11 men yet again. We are too slow.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 09:06:11 PM
Barry needs subbing before he gets a red.

You only need to look at the response of that Leeds defender who cheered when the ball ran for a goal kick. They want it WAY more than we do. We're clueless.
Rodriguez hardly put the effort in to win it though. just made it easy for the defender.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 09:06:15 PM
How can we play this badly and not make a sub, will be 3-0 and too late. Terrible management
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 01, 2019, 09:06:56 PM
Desperate bringing Mozza on
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:07:14 PM
Mozza coming on for Barry
Too little too late?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 09:08:01 PM
Aye carumba.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: kirk on March 01, 2019, 09:08:07 PM
I see the Livermore and Johnstone haters are on here again.
Johnstone blameless
Livermore best of a poor midfield
Harper, a game too far
Barry, not in it
Gayle wide left, and Murphy on the bench FFS.
Tosin hung out try dry again, hang your head in shame Mr Moore

Livermore. How much better did we play when he was suspended? He cannot tackle, shoot, nor play a football pass. The best you can say about him is he knows how to jockey when defending.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 09:08:11 PM
3-0

I fully expect Darren to walk away after this. Minimum objective this season was automatic promotion, instead he provides us with abject, lethargic football
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 09:08:16 PM
How is Barry still on the pitch,
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:08:24 PM
3-0  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on March 01, 2019, 09:08:25 PM
Game over Play Offs are our only hope

Absolutely god awful performance

Switched off already
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: GrumpyBaggie on March 01, 2019, 09:08:35 PM
How many times do we concede immediately after making a change?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:08:43 PM
Leeds different class..no excuses for this..out managed better tactics and a much greater will to win...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on March 01, 2019, 09:08:49 PM
He's not
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 09:09:09 PM
Like for like changes as ever
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 09:09:14 PM
So so weak from Dawson again.


Livermore none existent in midfield.


Another shot not straight at Sam, another goal.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:09:30 PM
None of the goals were Johnstones fault.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: smudger 2007 on March 01, 2019, 09:09:37 PM
What was hegazi doing helping there player get up and get back in position🙈
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: glosterbaggie on March 01, 2019, 09:09:52 PM
Men V Boys
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 09:10:25 PM
This is a disgrace! We will not even go up through the playoffs. I hate to say it, but I lay the blame for this at the door of the manager. Not helped by an owner who has no interest in our club.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 01, 2019, 09:10:32 PM
3-0

I fully expect Darren to walk away after this. Minimum objective this season was automatic promotion, instead he provides us with abject, lethargic football
Wishful thinking mate
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Jimmy on March 01, 2019, 09:10:54 PM
Livermore is useless. Infuriating to watch.
.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 09:11:09 PM
Best squad in the league lol. We had the best player in Harvey Barnes, the rest are gash. 5-0
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mini gaardsoe on March 01, 2019, 09:11:22 PM
Like for like changes, this is schoolboy stuff. Moore out, guys a clown
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on March 01, 2019, 09:11:26 PM
Men V Boys

Certainly in management terms, as well as on the pitch
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 09:12:01 PM
Out played out fought and out thought embarrassed
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on March 01, 2019, 09:12:09 PM
So so weak from Dawson again.
Livermore none existent in midfield.


Another shot not straight at Sam, another goal.

Dawson and Livermore are attrocious footballers
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Brooklynbaggie on March 01, 2019, 09:12:23 PM
I like DM but may be he’s out of his depth??
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dexy on March 01, 2019, 09:12:51 PM
Out worked week in week out
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:13:00 PM
Is HRK made out of rice paper..stay on your feet for God's sake..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:13:05 PM
Don't we talk and shout to each other when there is a man behind?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on March 01, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
3-0

I fully expect Darren to walk away after this. Minimum objective this season was automatic promotion, instead he provides us with abject, lethargic football

Ridiculous comment... ???
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 09:14:23 PM
Wishful thinking mate

In fairness that didn’t come across as I meant it, I don’t expect him to walk away at all, but I’d expect any man with pride and dignity to admit failure and offer his resignation for it
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 09:14:39 PM
Rodriguez is bulletproof.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 09:15:27 PM
To think we got rid of Roberts to fund Sturridge.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 09:16:00 PM
Ridiculous comment... ???

Are you watching this? Did you watch Sheffield United, Boro, Norwich, Sheff Wed, Hull away, Wigan away etc. We’ve been dire this season for the most part.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:16:49 PM
No clue on the pitch from the old men , no clue from management.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: merson94 on March 01, 2019, 09:16:58 PM
Tbf  thisbone the best I've seen any championship team play all season. Absolutely ruthless tempo and pressing. Something we've never been good at dealing with
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 09:17:18 PM
Fair play to the Leeds fans - they have really got behind their team tonight. They have kept the atmosphere going. I can imagine us going very quiet at home in similar circumstances.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:18:19 PM
We wait for the ball and don't go for it...They find it easy to take it off us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Baggies on March 01, 2019, 09:18:58 PM
Moore os failing the tactical tests he is going through at the moment. Very slow to realise that the 3 up front with 3 defensive midfields behind doesn't lead to many chances.

We have looked poor for a month now, albeit have got the off away result through battling performances.

Barnes just hasn't been replaced and Moore and Jones seem too nervous (or lacking in imagination) to complete the tactical overhaul that is needed.

Auto promotion gone. Play off success also looking like a mountain at the moment.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 09:19:21 PM
Rodriguez is bulletproof.
he's average at best, doesn't get involved in anything physical. it's the bun that can't be spoiled.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: we8seals on March 01, 2019, 09:19:29 PM
I like DM but may be he’s out of his depth??
Of course he is. Most people knew that at start of season. Media picked him as manager.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 09:19:57 PM
How he's managed to find, and stick with, a system that brings the worst out of every single one of our top Championship players is a skill in itself. I honestly don't think I'd have found a worse way to set up this squad of players if I'd tried, he's managed it when his job role is the exact opposite.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:20:27 PM
We are being out fought and out thought.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 09:20:43 PM
It’s like fifa on easy lol
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: CL3MO on March 01, 2019, 09:21:30 PM
Fair play to the Leeds fans - they have really got behind their team tonight. They have kept the atmosphere going. I can imagine us going very quiet at home in similar circumstances.

Disagree. Not saying they haven’t been very good; they have. However, they scored in the first minute on a Friday night game and have flew into a bucket load of challenges (and won them all!). Any crowd would be up for this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: johnny Cash on March 01, 2019, 09:21:38 PM
Fair play to the Leeds fans - they have really got behind their team tonight. They have kept the atmosphere going. I can imagine us going very quiet at home in similar circumstances.

Leeds fans haven’t done anything most club fans wouldn’t do in this situation. A first minute goal and then a game like this would set most fans up for the evening
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: miggybaggy on March 01, 2019, 09:22:23 PM
This has been coming all season really. We were bloody lucky to have Barnes as long as we did, and a lot of our results have been lucky since he went.

We have to accept now that we're just another one of the former prem clubs with a proud history languishing in the lower leagues. We just don't have the financial clout to compete, and an owner who hasn't got a bloody clue.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 09:23:02 PM
Field well out of his depth here so far. Not great circumstances to come into mind.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on March 01, 2019, 09:24:22 PM
Are you watching this? Did you watch Sheffield United, Boro, Norwich, Sheff Wed, Hull away, Wigan away etc. We’ve been dire this season for the most part.

Dire for the most part...but we have won nearly half of our games and will be in fourth place by the end of the weekend...

We have Blues and Bristol City to play...the rest are winnable...why should he walk...?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:24:46 PM
The players paid for the coaches for the fans, but they haven't turned up themselves.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 09:24:52 PM
I thought Leeds would tire the way they have worked, but they are still out running and out fighting us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: The Black Pearl on March 01, 2019, 09:25:20 PM
No movement, no pace, out thought, out battled, quite appallingly clueless performance and management.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 09:25:39 PM
If ever there was a time to score 4 goals in 10 minutes....  ;D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Leeds are young and hungry we have got old men who have grown fat on their wages.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 09:26:07 PM
Disagree. Not saying they haven’t been very good; they have. However, they scored in the first minute on a Friday night game and have flew into a bucket load of challenges (and won them all!). Any crowd would be up for this.
You would like to think so but we have taken early leads and gone very quiet - they have sung throughout. I can't remember many games over the years we've done that. Swansea in the play off semi, Palace at home in The Great Escape. Fans make a huge difference. They have really got behind their team tonight.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on March 01, 2019, 09:26:21 PM
Reckless putting Adarabioyo at LB
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 09:27:47 PM
Any chance the under 18s can take over for remainder of season
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on March 01, 2019, 09:27:53 PM
Reckless putting Adarabioyo at LB

The lad has been hung out to dry, appalling decision to start him at left back
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 09:28:57 PM
The players paid for the coaches for the fans, but they haven't turned up themselves.
Good comment - perhaps we should offer to pay for their travel next time!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: halifax_baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:29:09 PM
Not the managers fault

If as a player you can’t get motivated to fight and win key games like this just give up and find another job to do

Harper needs a kick up the a###

Dawson needs a lesson in packing

Both Livermore and Barry need to take the lead out of their boots as they are both too slow and sloppy

Rodreges needs to stop chasing Windmills

WBA they always let you down


Away fans awesome 😎


Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 09:29:35 PM
Reckless putting Adarabioyo at LB

A good manager doesn't do it. A competent manager realises the mistake and takes him off. Moore doesn't even know what sport he's watching.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:30:08 PM
Good job Roofe was injured...can the imagine the damage him and Bamford upfront would have caused..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on March 01, 2019, 09:31:03 PM
Not the managers fault

If as a player you can’t get motivated to fight and win key games like this just give up and find another job to do

Harper needs a kick up the a###

Dawson needs a lesson in packing

Both Livermore and Barry need to take the lead out of their boots as they are both too slow and sloppy

Rodreges needs to stop chasing Windmills

WBA they always let you down


Away fans awesome 😎

I disagree, Darren Moore has to take a large proportion of the blame tonight
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:31:17 PM
Toying with us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mini gaardsoe on March 01, 2019, 09:31:57 PM
Not the managers fault

If as a player you can’t get motivated to fight and win key games like this just give up and find another job to do

Harper needs a kick up the a###

Dawson needs a lesson in packing

Both Livermore and Barry need to take the lead out of their boots as they are both too slow and sloppy

Rodreges needs to stop chasing Windmills

WBA they always let you down


Away fans awesome 😎

Not the managers fault  :o
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:32:03 PM
We love to pass back...We need to attack some time.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:33:02 PM
Tyler Roberts get the Man of the Match...that sums the night up..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on March 01, 2019, 09:33:40 PM
Whats this farting around at free kicks and knocking it backwards

There’s no urgency on the ball to get things moving, we don’t have the players in midfield to play and passing game like this. Break up play, give to quick wingers and counter attack, that’s the Albion way.

Press high on teams like Leeds have done to us. That’s where we prosper
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 09:33:52 PM
We love to pass back...We need to attack some time.
we'd be great in the six nations
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
If we get up, we are going to be slaughtered every match if we keep playing like this. Plans have to change and change NOW !
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:35:56 PM
Roberts gets a well deserved standing ovation...class above any of our players tonight..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:36:06 PM
So this is how a share of 10 million quid motivates over paid players. Something has gone badly wrong tonight
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 01, 2019, 09:36:18 PM
I’ll get my thoughts in early - ******* pooh

The automatic spots are over

A disastrous performance - Totally off the pace. Our best forward out wide. Our midfield over run and out fought. A centre half at left back hung out to dry

A masterclass from Leeds. Showing all the qualities that we lack

Our academy product running the show whilst we pander about with the likes of HRK and Livermore
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:36:29 PM
Whats this farting around at free kicks and knocking it backwards

There’s no urgency on the ball to get things moving, we don’t have the players in midfield to play and passing game like this. Break up play, give to quick wingers and counter attack, that’s the Albion way.

Press high on teams like Leeds have done to us. That’s where we prosp
er
Shhh. Darren might hear you.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 09:36:41 PM
4-0.

Awful
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 09:36:51 PM
Whats this farting around at free kicks and knocking it backwards

There’s no urgency on the ball to get things moving, we don’t have the players in midfield to play and passing game like this. Break up play, give to quick wingers and counter attack, that’s the Albion way.

Press high on teams like Leeds have done to us. That’s where we prosper
Spot on no width or pace has done for us tonight. 4-0 😖
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tommcneill on March 01, 2019, 09:36:54 PM
Embarrassing

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: darbolina on March 01, 2019, 09:37:03 PM
It's starting to look like Darren is not quite up to it this season. Not much pattern or rhythm to us, defensively very poor and just lack energy and drive. Let's see where we end up but our players are hiding at he moment and the coaches seem to have no answers. Darren has spent the season tinkering really?

It is time to start asking serious questions as we look worse every week .
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:37:11 PM
4-0...could have and should have been more...dread to think where we go from here..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:37:25 PM
Four !  >:(
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:38:46 PM
They ran, we strolled into oblivion.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 01, 2019, 09:39:17 PM
Embarrassing. We need to totally start from scratch in the summer.

To be fair though, Leeds were outstanding.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on March 01, 2019, 09:39:26 PM
out battled and out thought.
MOM one of our academy boys.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on March 01, 2019, 09:39:33 PM
Very poor selection. Poor performance. Leeds excellent and Roberts especially. We could have done with exactly his type of player tonight.

The loss of Phillips and Barnes has been massive but we did have pace that Moore didn’t select.

Poor night all round.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:39:53 PM
Only 3 points above Middlesborough, and they have got 2 games in hand.
Will we even make the playoffs?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on March 01, 2019, 09:39:57 PM
2 winners tonight. Leeds and our Acadamy kids we let go.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: koren on March 01, 2019, 09:39:58 PM
No improvement from last week and even worse.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiedom on March 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Out fought out thought fair play to Leeds but we are way too easy to play against plan b needed ASAP
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tlms-p23 on March 01, 2019, 09:41:00 PM
shameful performance in the biggest game of the season, utterly atrocious
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on March 01, 2019, 09:41:09 PM
The difference in effort was shocking.

Case in point, Leeds defender bounces an Albion player off the ball to get a goal kick. Fists clenched, getting the crowd up.

At the other end, Roberts dances past Dawson who didnt even break into a run.  He was absolutely disgraceful all game, Dawson. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gavinrussell on March 01, 2019, 09:41:17 PM
We were absolutely dreadful and an embarrassment..they don't deserve the support at the ground tonight.....but saying that ..that was the best team performance from a Championship side I have seen this season..well done Leeds..
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Trigger on March 01, 2019, 09:41:25 PM
Shocking, Play-offs at best now
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 09:41:34 PM
Not going to hide away, I’m a big supporter of Moore but that was shocking. Terrible selection, terrible tactics, can’t deny he looked out of his depth tonight. Schooled by better managers 2 games in a row. Don’t fancy us to beat Ipswich. Worried.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:41:41 PM
Darren is a Pulis follower...
can't change and WONT change.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: bangkokbaggie on March 01, 2019, 09:41:46 PM
Anyone still confident of finishing in the play-off positions after that?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: merson94 on March 01, 2019, 09:42:12 PM
That was intensity and atmosphere we can never match unfortunately. Absolute class above
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pureade1 on March 01, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
3 players came over to applaud the fans for a 6 hour round trip on a friday night disgusting is the only word for that.

Thats the problem with a squad full of players borrowed from other clubs who wont be here next season.

Playoffs will be a big ask with this form
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 09:44:06 PM
Don't think we'll go up to be honest as we are just not good enough
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: darbolina on March 01, 2019, 09:45:14 PM
Darren really struggling now. Shame but this will end in tears and soonish I think. Too much tinkering and players just dont seem up for it - bit like most of last season really
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boot2006 on March 01, 2019, 09:45:18 PM
We pass it around at the back, get nowhere, lose the ball.  If it gets to midfield we look lost for ideas.  Absolutely no creativity.  For me Moore is 100% to blame for sheffield utd and tonight.  I like the guy but patience wearing thin. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wba_1996 on March 01, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
I gave up on automatics last week. Tonight I'm genuinely concerned we won't make the playoffs. Individual quality has carried Moore this season, we've been poor for the vast majority of it (sick of saying this every week), the players look like they've given up on him.

Not sure where we go from here. We're getting worse every game and promotion this season is essential. Moore quite clearly won't make it as a manager, so maybe we have to look towards safeguarding the long term future of the club.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: VANDERLEI on March 01, 2019, 09:48:12 PM
Disgusting performance. We got exactly what we deserved.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 01, 2019, 09:49:31 PM
shocking, out-thought, outclassed, outfought, tactically naive.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:49:42 PM
We have been sussed by teams.
Hit us with pace and we can only huff and puff, and let them blow our house down.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 01, 2019, 09:50:17 PM
this forum will not accept any abuse towards Darren Moore or his players. If you want to abuse them then use:

Www.facebook.com
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: miggybaggy on March 01, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
Doubt very much we'll make the play-offs now, we're so painfully slow and ponderous. All teams from now on will really fancy their chances against our cart-horses.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Trigger on March 01, 2019, 09:51:31 PM
Fecking speechless . If he tells me "our lads gave everything" i'll @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

No it will be let's take it away and analyse. Trouble is we never seem to put the analysis in place to make us better!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: caravanc58 on March 01, 2019, 09:52:49 PM
terrible team selection, Tosin is not a LB, picked the same midfield that was dreadful against Sheffield utd. no width no pace best striker out wide put that together with players who are diabolical at passing and let's hope for the best.
we've got no momentum going into the last stage of the season and a manager who looks devoid of ideas how to change it.
this could be a catastrophic gamble appointing a rookie to get us back up.
why are we so poor at passing, for a midfielder Livermore cannot pass with any accuracy a forward ball.
at least 6 players tonight should be ashamed of their performance by i guess a game of cards on the coach and it'll soon be forgotten.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 09:54:19 PM
Beaten, outwitted and outplayed by a manager that looks at his shoes and can't speak a word of English! Come on Big Dave!!!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 01, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
We were absolutely dreadful and an embarrassment..they don't deserve the support at the ground tonight.....but saying that ..that was the best team performance from a Championship side I have seen this season..well done Leeds..
The last time I watched a team perform so well, this season, was us against Leeds.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Baggies on March 01, 2019, 10:00:04 PM
I try to avoid saying it, but I just can't shake the idea of Moore getting sacked next season, with us lower mid table in the championship.

For all the motivational skills and fight he has, tactically, he just can't out think the best coaches.

Once again, in with a flat midfield and a flat front 3. It doesn't work.

Auto promotion gone now. Will we really beat Sheff utd/leeds/norwich/Boro in the play offs?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 10:00:45 PM
They've done to us what we did to them, we lost 2 key players and Moore buckled with his rejigged team selection. There is no way the midfield 3 should have got another chance after Sheffield United. As for the Djimi Traore selection at left back, speechless. There was an actual left back on the bench.


Got to get Dwight Gayle through the middle or out of the side.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 10:02:00 PM
Come on Big Dave - let's hear it. No excuses please. Admit you got it wrong and we were poor and I'll have far more respect.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: benalbion on March 01, 2019, 10:02:32 PM
Overall picture

The manager
 Moore is struggling lack of experience working against him and like others say showing again tonight with team selection and postioning tactically not good enough
 
The players
Teams above and around us full of young hungry players with a point to prove proud to wear the shirt and want to get their club to the premier league

Albion players.(not everyone but...)The Old ones with no legs who struggle to get stuck in when it gets tough are no good to anyone in this league against those young hungry players. The ones on loan lets be honest probably dont care if we go up or not and again wont get stuck in when it gets tough. The kids are trying but being put under a lot of pressure with under performing players around them. Some players just simply dont want to be at the albion and are plodding on just because we wouldnt sell them

The conundrum. motivating anyone out of this lot whoevers in charge
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
Come on Big Dave - let's hear it. No excuses please. Admit you got it wrong and we were poor and I'll have far more respect.

No chance. It’ll be yet more cliches.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Blowee on March 01, 2019, 10:04:43 PM
No chance. It’ll be yet more cliches.
I wait with anticipation!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 10:04:50 PM
352 is our first boy salvation without Barnes. pooh or bust.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on March 01, 2019, 10:06:44 PM
Reckon we had a mountain to climb by any chance? His interviews are embarrassing
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 10:08:13 PM
Overall picture

The manager
 Moore is struggling lack of experience working against him and like others say showing again tonight with team selection and postioning tactically not good enough
 
The players
Teams above and around us full of young hungry players with a point to prove proud to wear the shirt and want to get their club to the premier league

Albion players.(not everyone but...)The old ones with no legs who struggle to get stuck in when it gets tough are no good to anyone in this league against those young hungry players. The ones on loan lets be honest probably dont care if we go up or not and again wont get stuck in when it gets tough. The kids' are trying but being put under a lot of pressure with under performing players around them. Some players just simply dont want to be at the Albion and are plodding on just because we wouldnt sell them

The conundrum. motivating anyone out of this lot whoevers in charge
Couldn't have put it better myself.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LB on March 01, 2019, 10:18:19 PM
That was shocking. Just depressed that we are getting worse by the match. No passion, no skill, no desire from the players, no clue from the management. Enjoyed watching Leeds play, but that’s what you get from young hungry players. Only bright spark tonight was Harper again (and he’ll be leaving soon). Be a long time till we get back to the greed league.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wodenson46 on March 01, 2019, 10:20:44 PM
What is there to add to all the disgusted disappointed comments regarding lack of pace and lack of ideas.? What about the lack of physicality to break free of all the holding back when our lot tried to run with the ball. Played like a babbies team we need fighters to get a hold in these sort of games, both Sheffield and Leeds have that grittiness that gets a result when you need it, Albion do not. Promotion for any of the teams in the mix at the moment will be but a short lived experience without the spending of mega mega bucks and a lot of luck. Personally I am not sure it is an experience I particularly want again at this time, so as it looks at the moment and we do miss out I will not be that bothered. But what does make me mad is these sorts of performance where so much is wrong and so many of the problems are the same as they have always been. This team is not developing it is going backwards. We are getting beaten very easily and our experienced players are most often the ones not doing what they ought to be capable of. It is getting to the time when I think more of our own young players should be allowed to show if they might be good enough for our future. Perhaps not en masses but when a first team regular is out injured why not replace him with the one who plays the same position and not shoehorn in somebody from the squad who is a regular in another position and creates an imbalance. If performances show lack of development then move them on.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: richjonawba on March 01, 2019, 10:21:30 PM
Everyone will be flocking to get their early birds after that performance. Two absolute shockers in a row, pretty embarrassing in honesty.

 We may well hold on to a playoff spot just about, but I struggle to see anything but a whimpering semi final defeat unless something drastically changes. Sadly Big Dave doesn’t seem to be a fan of making changes of any kind
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 10:21:58 PM
That was shocking. Just depressed that we are getting worse by the match. No passion, no skill, no desire from the players, no clue from the management. Enjoyed watching Leeds play, but that’s what you get from young hungry players. Only bright spark tonight was Harper again (and he’ll be leaving soon). Be a long time till we get back to the greed league.
I have highlighted what I agree with. I am not too sure of Harper, but it is really early days. (I did comment how useless he was, on the "in game" thread).
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Adder on March 01, 2019, 10:27:54 PM
That was the definition of a chastening defeat. Being without Phillips, Murphy and Gibbs we had no-one capable of taking the ball forward. Townsend should have played or should have come on at half time, at least he's capable of an overlapping run or give and go.

I want to see Moore succeed and be given time to develop the team/squad but the poor use of any options from the bench and slowness/inability to change anything is getting very worrying.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 10:29:17 PM
Folks are saying Moore is inexperienced but the bloke has been in professional game for majority of his life and is a cope out if you ask me. If you can't read the situation as coach then you shouldn't be a coach and it looking like he isn't up to the task.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on March 01, 2019, 10:32:10 PM
The alarm bells were ringing post Middlesbrough. For a Pulis team to bag 3 away is almost unheard of. It was a game we dominated, were the better side and just shot ourselves in the foot. Norwich we should have beat as we were the better side. QPR and Villa papered over the cracks.

We will be lucky to make top 6.

A lot of people who saw those warning signs were shouted down by others.  Maybe we were just being honest and calling it for what it was.

Tactically we are just woeful. O'Neill, Wilder and now Bielsa have shown how a good manager can influence.

I guess the Board will be motionless while we wave promotion goodbye.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 10:35:09 PM
The alarm bells were ringing post Middlesbrough. For a Pulis team to bag 3 away is almost unheard of. It was a game we dominated, were the better side and just shot ourselves in the foot. Norwich we should have beat as we were the better side. QPR and Villa papered over the cracks.

We will be lucky to make top 6.

A lot of people who saw those warning signs were shouted down by others.  Maybe we were just being honest and calling it for what it was.

Tactically we are just woeful. O'Neill, Wilder and now Bielsa have shown how a good manager can influence.

I guess the Board will be motionless while we wave promotion goodbye.
Typical W.B.Albion.
No change in all the years I have follwed from the 50's. Even Ronnie Allen had to pay for Cyrille Regis because the board were so thick.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
What is there to add to all the disgusted disappointed comments regarding lack of pace and lack of ideas.? What about the lack of physicality to break free of all the holding back when our lot tried to run with the ball. Played like a babbies team we need fighters to get a hold in these sort of games, both Sheffield and Leeds have that grittiness that gets a result when you need it, Albion do not. Promotion for any of the teams in the mix at the moment will be but a short lived experience without the spending of mega mega bucks and a lot of luck. Personally I am not sure it is an experience I particularly want again at this time, so as it looks at the moment and we do miss out I will not be that bothered. But what does make me mad is these sorts of performance where so much is wrong and so many of the problems are the same as they have always been. This team is not developing it is going backwards. We are getting beaten very easily and our experienced players are most often the ones not doing what they ought to be capable of. It is getting to the time when I think more of our own young players should be allowed to show if they might be good enough for our future. Perhaps not en masses but when a first team regular is out injured why not replace him with the one who plays the same position and not shoehorn in somebody from the squad who is a regular in another position and creates an imbalance. If performances show lack of development then move them on.
Nail on head. It's the "best squad in the league," that is letting us down. Johnstone, Dawson,, Holgate, Rodriguez, Barry and Gayle were all embarrassing tonight and it I never see Livermore in an Albion shirt again it will be too soon.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 10:44:03 PM
Nail on head. It's the "best squad in the league," that is letting us down. Johnstone, Dawson,, Holgate, Rodriguez, Barry and Gayle were all embarrassing tonight and it I never see Livermore in an Albion shirt again it will be too soon.
I am not a Johnstone fan. Most definitely not!
I think that Bond is just as good, if not better .
But tonight and also against Sheffield, he wasn't at fault. The defence was disorganised because of how they were set up and ordered by management.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggies_24 on March 01, 2019, 10:44:57 PM
balls to this best squad it’s about playing as a team as Leeds & Sheffield United have shown us over the past 2 games. Dawson, Livermore, Rodriguez, Kanu utter pub players. Moore with his useless tactics is getting massively found out to play the same midfield as last week is inept, we won’t make playoffs at this rate utterly shocking that Albion completely disgusted
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Adder on March 01, 2019, 10:46:28 PM
Tyler Roberts outstanding to rub a bit of salt in. It's easy to say we should have kept him but it shows how our squad is lacking young/peak clever footballers. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on March 01, 2019, 10:47:41 PM
Nail on head. It's the "best squad in the league," that is letting us down. Johnstone, Dawson,, Holgate, Rodriguez, Barry and Gayle were all embarrassing tonight and it I never see Livermore in an Albion shirt again it will be too soon.

We had a lesson last week from the Blades.  Did we learn?  No just slept walked into a bigger disaster by picking the same players and formation.

The writing was on the wall first half.  We shouldve brought on a sub to change it at 1-0.  Barry should've been sent off for 2 yellows we waited another 5 mind before subbing him!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on March 01, 2019, 10:55:32 PM
Tyler Roberts outstanding to rub a bit of salt in. It's easy to say we should have kept him but it shows how our squad is lacking young/peak clever footballers.
yeah but we got Sturridge for six months on 100,000.00 a week weren't we blessed  >:(
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on March 01, 2019, 11:00:41 PM
I am not a Johnstone fan. Most definitely not!
I think that Bond is just as good, if not better .
But tonight and also against Sheffield, he wasn't at fault. The defence was disorganised because of how they were set up and ordered by management.
Didn't say he was at fault but he was rubbish. Have his feet ever left the ground? First goal was class but his dive was comical.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 01, 2019, 11:08:54 PM
Not a game watcher, but he he is a shot stoper given the chance.
He should contol his area and come out MUCH earlier. This is down to him and his coach.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 01, 2019, 11:14:00 PM
Not a game watcher, but he he is a shot stoper given the chance.
He should contol his area and come out MUCH earlier. This is down to him and his coach.


I await this development with baited breath...
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheBrom on March 01, 2019, 11:48:35 PM
What annoys me is that we all knew this would happen.

Happens every big game that is a ‘must win’

We just don’t turn up. Must be the easiest team to play in a massive 6 pointer game. Best squad in the league haha
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 01, 2019, 11:57:00 PM
I can't believe anybody would direct any abuse at Darren Moore or his players on this forum after such an inspirational display. Who do the fans this they are? Expecting the players to match the workrate of the opposition? What a joke.

criticism is fine, abuse is not.

That has to be the most inept performance we have put in all season, not a single player comes out of that with any credit, some were worse than others but they were all poor.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Beefy on March 02, 2019, 12:24:21 AM
Leeds played midweek this time, but once again it was WBA who looked sluggish. Leeds ran all over them. Moore's midfield selections were wrong, and concerning thing is it took Barry nearly getting sent off for him to change things. I'm not sure the formation ever changed though to try and stop the momentum Leeds had, how were we ever going to win that playing a RB at LB when he has been useless at RB anyway yet he has LB on the bench? Sackabke offence that on its own, then we have three slow midfielders being over run OK how many times have we said that this year and why we are on the subject of how many times this year why is our best forward on the wing???
Sorry guys I just can not see this in anyway being acceptable from our head coach
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on March 02, 2019, 12:38:44 AM
Leeds played midweek this time, but once again it was WBA who looked sluggish. Leeds ran all over them. Moore's midfield selections were wrong, and concerning thing is it took Barry nearly getting sent off for him to change things. I'm not sure the formation ever changed though to try and stop the momentum Leeds had, how were we ever going to win that playing a RB at LB when he has been useless at RB anyway yet he has LB on the bench? Sackabke offence that on its own, then we have three slow midfielders being over run OK how many times have we said that this year and why we are on the subject of how many times this year why is our best forward on the wing???
Sorry guys I just can not see this in anyway being acceptable from our head coach
bloke is a center halve which was more incredulous, couldn't believe the line up but had a suspicion that we'd get spanked.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 02, 2019, 12:44:00 AM
Leeds played midweek this time, but once again it was WBA who looked sluggish. Leeds ran all over them. Moore's midfield selections were wrong, and concerning thing is it took Barry nearly getting sent off for him to change things. I'm not sure the formation ever changed though to try and stop the momentum Leeds had, how were we ever going to win that playing a RB at LB when he has been useless at RB anyway yet he has LB on the bench? Sackabke offence that on its own, then we have three slow midfielders being over run OK how many times have we said that this year and why we are on the subject of how many times this year why is our best forward on the wing???
Sorry guys I just can not see this in anyway being acceptable from our head coach


Why are you passing off Matt Wilson's tweet as your own words? Just out of interest like?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Andio on March 02, 2019, 01:22:16 AM
Just got back.

If you asked somebody which team had played on Tuesday night and which team played on Saturday, I know what their answer would be.

It was like we were playing a back 7, and 3 forwards up top, the space in between was acres.

Absolutely shocking.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggieboyfred on March 02, 2019, 01:36:38 AM
Cannot believe we started with same midfield as last week  can believe Leeds like Utd last week wanted it much more than we did and it showed all through the game, we were swamped in midfield , it seemed to me that when our attacks broke down usually to abysmal passing the front 3 just stood and watched what was going on behind them without making much effort to get back behind the ball,
it was as though they were under instruction to stay up the pitch ready for counter attacks, we should have started with 4 across the middle included Murphy and Montero for a bit of pace and with and extra men in middle of park , I am not over sure about those 2 as  additions to squad but at least they would of added something different,at least if that did not work we could have changed it, also why was the natural left back left on the bench and Tosin a central defender playing there instead , his fault for the first goal being nowhere near Hernandez either in the build up to the goal and indeed when the guy was shooting I fear for us to be honest , we should make play offs but the way things are at the moment I can't see us making it to Wembley never mind the premiership
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Aussie Baggie on March 02, 2019, 01:39:46 AM
I couldn’t believe the score line.

Even when it was 1-0 early I thought we could still get back in it.

I got to watch a bit through the stream but after a while it didn’t work and I had to concentrate on my son’s cricket game.

Couldn’t believe we had let 4 in by the time I got back to the live feed.

We’re all incredibly frustrated which is understandable.

I’ll be taking a step back and not thinking anything Albion until next Saturday.

Automatic promotion is gone now, the play offs are our best and only chance of going up now.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on March 02, 2019, 01:48:11 AM
Played off the park tonight.

Not much tactically between the teams but it looked man v boys tonight  other than 15inutea in the second half.

I have not decided if our midfield failed to combat or Moore should of played for the point and packed the midfield with 5.

As shakey as Tosin looked at LB he was not at fault for the goals. I can only say we looked intimidated by the opposition.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Andio on March 02, 2019, 01:54:40 AM


As shakey as Tosin looked at LB he was not at fault for the goals.

I'm not knocking the lad as it isn't his fault he got shoehorned into left back, but the first two goals he was at fault for. The first he didn't close the man down and the second he played Bamford onside when he was looking right along the line.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on March 02, 2019, 02:58:41 AM
After taking a breath IMO a poor performance, outplayed, lacked creativity, out coached.
But.... Leeds put in a hell of a performance, ripped us to shreds and if they played like that against ANY team in the division they would probably have won handsomely.

We just lost to 2 better organized, better coached teams than us. I agree we are done for automatic promotion but I disagree with all the naysayers  expressing we will not make the playoffs.  We should comfortably make the playoffs with the games we have left and the team we have. I think a shake up of team selection needs to be made and a few regulars need to earn their keep and not live on past reputation.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 02, 2019, 04:30:31 AM
After taking a breath IMO a poor performance, outplayed, lacked creativity, out coached.
But.... Leeds put in a hell of a performance, ripped us to shreds and if they played like that against ANY team in the division they would probably have won handsomely.

We just lost to 2 better organized, better coached teams than us. I agree we are done for automatic promotion but I disagree with all the naysayers  expressing we will not make the playoffs.  We should comfortably make the playoffs with the games we have left and the team we have. I think a shake up of team selection needs to be made and a few regulars need to earn their keep and not live on past reputation.
With all due respect, any team would rip apart another that performs badly, lacks creativity, and lacks coaching. We made them look like world beaters. They were good, admittedly. We, however, stunk the place out. And I rarely criticise us.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: beechyboy90 on March 02, 2019, 05:43:14 AM
Well we were well and truly outplayed from start to finish. They looked up for it and yards quicker than us (despite only playing 3 days a go) throughout the team we looked slow and had no balance.

Team selection and tactics have been wrong for weeks. The 3 up top isn't working as Gayle as out of position and being carried, Rodriguez can't hold the ball and gives it away if he manages to trap the thing.

Livermore despite a rare game winning contribution at QPR was back to not really doing much except charge about like a headless chicken. Barry again against a fast aggressive midfield was at sea. Harper needs taking out of firing line confidence has gone.

Playing tosin at left back was criminal either give Townsend ago or if he doesn't rate him he might as well have played mears.

Can't fault the goalie (although I want him to try bond) he didn't have a chance with any of them.

That's curtains for us for automatic spots. And the way we are going we might not make the play offs. And failure to go up were in a right mess
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: kendo on March 02, 2019, 07:22:45 AM
LOOKS LIKE THE CLUB HAVE JUST SAVED THERE SELF 10 MILLION .

rubbish against Sheffield and Leeds but, the writing has been on the wall a long time. Thinking back on the season, how many games can we really say we played well. Not many.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on March 02, 2019, 07:25:48 AM
I'm sick of seeing posts regarding 'we have the best squad in this league' probably from the same people that were saying our squad from last year was the best we've ever assembled.
Total and utter rubbish.
In that Leeds side that played last night I can't see one of our players that would get into their side.
The goalkeeper came and caught everything, back four solid as a rock in the centre, we never laid a glove on either of the full backs.
Mid field hassles and breaks quickly.
Front two always moving and looking for the ball.
They gave us a lesson last night.
Big Dave take some notes
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on March 02, 2019, 07:59:08 AM
I'm sick of seeing posts regarding 'we have the best squad in this league' probably from the same people that were saying our squad from last year was the best we've ever assembled.
Total and utter rubbish.
In that Leeds side that played last night I can't see one of our players that would get into their side.
The goalkeeper came and caught everything, back four solid as a rock in the centre, we never laid a glove on either of the full backs.
Mid field hassles and breaks quickly.
Front two always moving and looking for the ball.
They gave us a lesson last night.
Big Dave take some notes

How is this accurate?

Firstly we beat Leeds 4-1 at home.
Secondly we have both played QPR away within a few days of each other us winning 2-3 them losing 1-0.
Check Leeds record over the past 10 games their results have been patchy at best with their fans frustrated.
We were deservedly beaten by Sheffield U because their manager perfectly executed a game plan.
We were rinsed last night because our Manager used the same tactics and didn’t learn despite Leeds only having 72 hours rest from their previous outing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiejohn on March 02, 2019, 08:27:12 AM
Leaving tactics etc aside, I don't think we should underestimate the psychological impact on Leeds players of getting that early goal.
IMO, had we not conceded that early, it would have been a different game.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gazberg on March 02, 2019, 08:39:22 AM
I agree DM probably had a single plan for the game but that went down the pan in 15 seconds so he had 89:45 plus injury time to do something using his nous and know-how and he didn't because he hasn't got any.

Forget proactive and forward thinking he doesn't even react these days.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on March 02, 2019, 08:56:53 AM
Ok, had time to digest last night now.

Firstly the team selection. Given that Glassy Phillips was injured again I don't criticise the team selection in midfield. We could've played Field or Johansen but Livermore, Barry and Harper was no worse a combination than any other.

Up front without Harvey Barnes we have no creativity or on the ball quality. In this case the threat we have to offer is pace we have that in Murphy and Montero. One of them had to start because Rodriguez and Gayle are not going to offer any creativity and are not going to put defenders on the back foot in the 4-3-3 system.

Now the shocking selection, Tosin Adarabioyo at left back. No Darren, no, no, no. We have a specialist left back available in Conor Townsend. Townsend may not be the best but he's a natural left back, he will get up and down the pitch, has energy and is a far better option than playing Adarabioyo there. Tosin filling in at right back at times is just about acceptable but a tleft back, no. Utterly stupid decision and I know "stupid" is a strong word but yes it was stupid.

When we played Leeds at home and Norwich at home we started fast and were tenacious both times that's what we needed last night we got absolutely the opposite.

The first goal 16 seconds. Ridiculous, from our kick off. We spend all game fannying about at the back trying to keep the ball but from a kick off we don't try and keep possession. Their defender wins the header and the ball ends up coming across to Hernandez. Out of position or not, Adarabioyo's defending is abysmal. He actually does nothing, other than shift his weight slightly onto his left which was just barmy as the goal was on the right side of him. Other than that, nothing, no attempt to block the shot, no moving towards Hernandez, no tackle, absolutely zero defending. A world class 'keeper may have saved it but no real blame on Johnstone.

After that Leeds ran us off the park. The second goal was inevitable. Dawson seems to have received some blame for the goal but it's a bit harsh, they play round him, it's the full backs to blame. Tosin and Holgate are not in line, they both play Bamford onside. Tosin has a perfect view of his fellow defenders inside him he has to move out. Holgate just walks back literally. Awful.

It's not just the goals the whole performance was awful. Slow, no aggression, no tempo, passing and reception of the ball, awful. The telling stat for me was at half time Leeds had made something like 23 tackles, we had made something like 7, (can't remember exact figures). That disparity says it all for me. Our mindset was all about trying to pass the ball, we forgot the tempo and the intensity that we showed in our home fixture against them.

At half time I'm thinking Darren is going to change things here, either Murphy or Montero are going to come on and we're going to change shape, surely? No, nothing. The only real change we made was our wide forwards played much narrower. We actually started the second half much better, more intensity, more aggression. Robson-Kanu misses a great chance from a header. If that goes in the momentum may have shifted but it didn't and we concede another shocking goal. The way Roberts goes past Livermore is embarrassing, Holgate then dangles a leg in a terrible attempt at a tackle and the deflection takes the ball into the goal. After that, Leeds ran all over us again. The forth goal was really well worked gotta give Leeds credit.

That Leeds performance last night was the type of performance I've been waiting to see from us all season. We produced that level of performance first twenty five minutes at home to Leeds and Norwich and second half at Sheffield United, other than that, not at all and certainly not over a full ninety minutes.

Leeds are the best team we've played this season and Norwich deserve to be top two with them. I said at the beginning of the season I thought we'd make the play off's and that looks likely now although unpredictable as this league is the top two still isn't impossible. Can't see us finishing top two though, we simply aren't good enough. Those people worrying about us losing our "stars" next season I'd ask just who they think our "Premier League quality" players are. I don't see many of them.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dexy on March 02, 2019, 09:12:33 AM
Putting to one side yet another poor team selection and lack of subs ( months now ), I can't help but notice the basic lack of fight , heart and effort . No tempo , no bottle in big games lately .
Very worrying .
Only positive I can take there is now no excuse for a system and team shake up .
Ipswich can't come quick enough for me.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on March 02, 2019, 09:37:12 AM
How is this accurate?

Firstly we beat Leeds 4-1 at home.
Secondly we have both played QPR away within a few days of each other us winning 2-3 them losing 1-0.
Check Leeds record over the past 10 games their results have been patchy at best with their fans frustrated.
We were deservedly beaten by Sheffield U because their manager perfectly executed a game plan.
We were rinsed last night because our Manager used the same tactics and didn’t learn despite Leeds only having 72 hours rest from their previous outing.

How is it accurate?
If you were the Leeds manager which of our players would you have swapped with his 11 last night?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiemart on March 02, 2019, 09:37:40 AM
Automatic has definitely gone now. The best we can hope for is a play off place and even then I don't fancy our chances in the play offs.

When we played the top 5 teams in the 1st half of the season we Won 4 ( Norwich, Leeds, Sheff Utd, Bristol City) and lost 1  ( Middlesboro)

In the 2nd half of the season we have Lost 3 ( Leeds, Sheff Utd, Middlesboro), Drew 1 (Norwich) with 1 still to play.

So at the moment we can't compete with the best in the division!!

I suppose the determining factor in the 1st half of the season was Harvey Barnes.  We have nothing to replace him.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 02, 2019, 09:38:36 AM
The alarm bells were ringing post Middlesbrough. For a Pulis team to bag 3 away is almost unheard of. It was a game we dominated, were the better side and just shot ourselves in the foot. Norwich we should have beat as we were the better side. QPR and Villa papered over the cracks.

We will be lucky to make top 6.

A lot of people who saw those warning signs were shouted down by others.  Maybe we were just being honest and calling it for what it was.

Tactically we are just woeful. O'Neill, Wilder and now Bielsa have shown how a good manager can influence.

I guess the Board will be motionless while we wave promotion goodbye.

To use the Middlesbrough game as a stick to beat amoore with is severely unfair in my view

The three goals that day were all self inflicted and nothing to do with Darren Moore.

The players need to be accountable for their own mistakes and not protected due to a will to castigate their boss
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiemart on March 02, 2019, 09:45:47 AM
To use the Middlesbrough game as a stick to beat amoore with is severely unfair in my view

The three goals that day were all self inflicted and nothing to do with Darren Moore.

The players need to be accountable for their own mistakes and not protected due to a will to castigate their boss

But wasn't Moore who bought Brunt on and his first touch of the ball gifted Middlesbrough a goal !!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 02, 2019, 09:49:11 AM
But wasn't Moore who bought Brunt on and his first touch of the ball gifted Middlesbrough a goal !!!

Yes

I remember Darren Moore instructing Chris Brunt to go on the pitch and miss kick the ball to allow them to score
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frankieb on March 02, 2019, 10:04:11 AM
Bringing  Brunt on was enough!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiemart on March 02, 2019, 10:12:39 AM
Yes

I remember Darren Moore instructing Chris Brunt to go on the pitch and miss kick the ball to allow them to score

The point is he should have never been on the pitch at all.

I think he has now realised he made a mistake because he hasn't been in any squad since !!!

He bought him on and he made a big mistake so the manager should take the stick for that.  If he had come on and scored a hat trick I am sure fans would be saying what a great decision by Darren Moore.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 02, 2019, 10:25:35 AM
The point is he should have never been on the pitch at all.

I think he has now realised he made a mistake because he hasn't been in any squad since !!!

He bought him on and he made a big mistake so the manager should take the stick for that.  If he had come on and scored a hat trick I am sure fans would be saying what a great decision by Darren Moore.

Just another stark reminder of how poor and unbalanced our midfield is

That’s going to be no easy fix
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: timdon on March 02, 2019, 11:45:43 AM
Terrible performance overall, but a few comments I would like to make on top of that general assessment.

1 To be so completely out fought in every area of the pitch was shocking. Sometimes it looked like they had about 3 more players than us

2 Playing a centre half as the left back was a terrible decision. We bought Townsend as a back up for Gibbs, so when Gibbs is injured play him ffs. He is a proper full back with some pace at least.

3 Some of the players look completely knackered, especially Dawson, Barry, Livermore(who isn't that good even when he isn't knackered) and Rodriguez.

4 As everyone else says, Gayle is not a winger. Play him in the centre forward role. Has been apparent for ages.

5 Even amongst a load of poor performances, Morrison's 35 minutes was truly awful. He strolled around like a little boy lost, marking only spaces, not tackling, not running into spaces, nothing. Embarrasing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: caravanc58 on March 02, 2019, 12:02:41 PM
Terrible performance overall, but a few comments I would like to make on top of that general assessment.

1 To be so completely out fought in every area of the pitch was shocking. Sometimes it looked like they had about 3 more players than us

2 Playing a centre half as the left back was a terrible decision. We bought Townsend as a back up for Gibbs, so when Gibbs is injured play him ffs. He is a proper full back with some pace at least.

3 Some of the players look completely knackered, especially Dawson, Barry, Livermore(who isn't that good even when he isn't knackered) and Rodriguez.

4 As everyone else says, Gayle is not a winger. Play him in the centre forward role. Has been apparent for ages.

5 Even amongst a load of poor performances, Morrison's 35 minutes was truly awful. He strolled around like a little boy lost, marking only spaces, not tackling, not running into spaces, nothing. Embarrasing.
Even a rookie manager shouldn't be making such a bad decisions.
like you've pointed out he had the better option of playing Townsend in his natural position, playing Brunt would have been a better option at least he gives us a better dead ball option.
Don't think anyone apart from Moore will guess his thinking behind such a bad decision.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Adder on March 02, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
There was a stark contrast in the movement between the sides. In our starting line-up last night how many would you describe as sharp over the first 10 or 15 ?....Gayle (who is hardly involved anyway) and no-one else. By contrast Leeds seem to have a team full of them.

It's clear that Leeds relished the chance to get the QPR defeat out of their systems very quickly - especially with the motivation of getting revenge on us for the Hawthorns game. Our static side couldn't cope.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on March 02, 2019, 12:57:09 PM
I think it's clear that Moore is struggling with the team at the moment.  Same thing happened earlier in the season, teams found us out and we struggled, it took far too long to change things around.  We have no Plan B.   The same has happened now, every team lines up against us the same way and every. single. time.  we struggle.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 02, 2019, 02:10:49 PM
I think it's clear that Moore is struggling with the team at the moment.  Same thing happened earlier in the season, teams found us out and we struggled, it took far too long to change things around.  We have no Plan B.   The same has happened now, every team lines up against us the same way and every. single. time.  we struggle.

Last time injuries to Brunt and Bartley forced the change, not sure what will force it this time though.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ex coseley kid on March 02, 2019, 03:36:47 PM
I'm really, really glad I missed it. Celebrating a friend's 50th in a 13th Century castle; ironically along with a great friend who's a Leeds fan.

Can't help but think we are going to fizzle now for the rest of the season but right now I'm having a great weekend and trying not to give one.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on March 02, 2019, 05:13:28 PM
I only caught highlights, but seems like Leeds as dominant as we were against them at The Hawthorns. Looking at the 2 teams for the fixtures, the one obvious difference was Harvey Barnes.
What's important now, is that DM picks up morale and self-confidence. If the players self belief starts slipping away, literally anyone will take points off us.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mikkyk on March 02, 2019, 06:44:45 PM
Decided to hold my thoughts until now cause was royally inebriated off after long round trip and £39 tickets.

I've backed Moore up until now but last night was a tactical disaster. Rodriguez cannot play in a withdrawn striker role, he just isn't good enough unfortunately.

Livermore and Barry cannot play in the same team, the centre midfield disappears completely with lack of mobility. Livermore in general should never play again, a massive problem player. Highlighted at one point when Adarabioyo had the ball at left back and there was a 50 metre square area in the middle of the pitch with no Albion players.

Harper looked lost, didn't seem to know where he was playing.

Said multiple times but Gayle through the middle, abysmal decision to consistently play him on the wing.

Onto the players, complete lack of effort by so many. Gayle and Holgate about the only two that looked bothered. As someone else mentioned only three players clapped the fans after the game, and one was Murphy who didn't play! Rodriguez and Holgate the other two.

And finally passing out from the back doesn't work against anyone, just goes unpunished against poorer teams. Better teams (Forest, Boro, Derby, Sheffield United, Leeds) will and have punished us - whether this is Jones' or Moore's idea, there has been no improvement (which is the ideal as we keep getting told we're in a transitional phase) and we keep sticking with it.

Very surprised if we go up now as we won't get automatics and can't beat any of the top 6-8 teams recently.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on March 03, 2019, 06:11:51 PM
It looks very much like JRP was right all along - what was his statement? a mid-table championship club. We will be the new Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest etc a good few years in the Championship beckon at best. Aging players, loan players, a few youths not the best recipe in my opinion. Automatic promotion was never on and I wonder whether we have the bottle for the play offs anyway. A poor championship division this season I feel, pity anyone going up without some financial clout except maybe Leeds and they've been in the championship a few seasons
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on March 03, 2019, 07:21:59 PM
Jeez. Cheer up everyone.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 04, 2019, 08:24:57 AM
I only caught highlights, but seems like Leeds as dominant as we were against them at The Hawthorns. Looking at the 2 teams for the fixtures, the one obvious difference was Harvey Barnes.
What's important now, is that DM picks up morale and self-confidence. If the players self belief starts slipping away, literally anyone will take points off us.

The 2nd obvious difference being Matt Phillips, who was immense against Leeds at home. We have lost our 2 most creative players during this poor run, one we could have coped with but not losing the 2. T
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: AlbionFan on March 04, 2019, 09:26:53 AM
Jeez. Cheer up everyone.

“Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]

Always look on the light side of life.
[whistle]…”

Ala Monty Pythons Eric Idle

Thought a little music would cheer us all up!