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Re: Carlos Corberan
« Reply #3750 on: October 31, 2024, 06:59:18 PM »
So if we come away with a good result Friday CC doesn't deserve the credit have i interpreted that right? Bet you will blame him if we lose though  ;D

Like someone said above, i think there's a reason personally why Heggem has started at left back over the options but i hope i'm wrong. Although Styles looked good coming forward he got beat too easily a couple times defensively and my friend who is a Barnsley supporter claims he is never a left back. Frabotta deserves his chance and hopefully he can take it.
Not exactly

What I’m saying is that Corberan has been lucky on occasions with the way that Injuries have enforced changes
I don’t think that many fans would argue that we have looked ponderous knocking it around in a very obvious way across the back…now some do rightly point to the defensive record,but because we are so bloody slow,it’s making it harder to initiate fast paced attacks…I genuinely expect that to
Improve with the enforced changes

The reason that Heggem starts at LB is because he was there first match and since then hasn’t done much wrong but …aligned with the fact that there is no way on earth corberan drops one of his faves in Bartley ….then he had to say at LB .
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« Reply #3751 on: October 31, 2024, 06:59:57 PM »
Zipitbungle is fighting losing battles over several threads.

Give in and accept you are wrong.

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« Reply #3752 on: October 31, 2024, 07:01:36 PM »
Zipitbungle is fighting losing battles over several threads.

Give in and accept you are wrong.
Wrong to have an opinion on a forum that is based on open speech and opinions
Who exactly put you in charge? And what can you categorically state I’m wrong on ?
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« Reply #3753 on: October 31, 2024, 07:04:38 PM »
I think you are going to see what the majority want in defence now in fairness. People wanted the Holgate/Heggem partnership with one of either Styles or Frabotta at full back. Suppose we are now going to see how this works.
Yes, I am one of those , because they can both pass the ball without assistance. Carlos did not want that though and will probably try to screen the defence somehow
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« Reply #3754 on: October 31, 2024, 07:09:07 PM »
Yes, I am one of those , because they can both pass the ball without assistance. Carlos did not want that though and will probably try to screen the defence somehow
Whilst I am critical of him ,I do understand that there may be a tendency to be even more safety first due to current form and the injuries sustained .
I actually think now is a very good time to play Luton,but they may say same about us …I agree with you that we may see a defensive 4 with maybe 2 sat in front ,however if the 2 is mulumby and Diakite with Mowatt pushed on in to the 10…I wouldn’t be averse
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« Reply #3755 on: October 31, 2024, 08:28:35 PM »
Wrong to have an opinion on a forum that is based on open speech and opinions
Who exactly put you in charge? And what can you categorically state I’m wrong on ?

To name just a few:

That we were going to blow everyone away with our forward line.

"I can't see what Mowatt does, he's too slow".

As far as I can remember you have never been right on anything, and when other posters disagree with you, you accuse them of "having it in for you."

And on a open forum that is my opinion.


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« Reply #3756 on: October 31, 2024, 08:37:26 PM »
To name just a few:

That we were going to blow everyone away with our forward line.

"I can't see what Mowatt does, he's too slow".

As far as I can remember you have never been right on anything, and when other posters disagree with you, you accuse them of "having it in for you."

And on a open forum that is my opinion.
Oh well
I’m sure you’ll get over it
Maybe consider not spending your time digging up old posts just trying to justify your arguments …and maybe let all the other big boys stand up for themselves ?
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« Reply #3757 on: October 31, 2024, 09:16:58 PM »
Oh well
I’m sure you’ll get over it
Maybe consider not spending your time digging up old posts just trying to justify your arguments …and maybe let all the other big boys stand up for themselves ?

Don't need to dig anything up, the shockingly bad posts just seem to stay in the memory.

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« Reply #3758 on: October 31, 2024, 09:25:28 PM »
Don't need to dig anything up, the shockingly bad posts just seem to stay in the memory.
Then it’s a shame you have nowt else taking up your brain space .
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« Reply #3759 on: October 31, 2024, 09:42:36 PM »
You two are boring,
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« Reply #3760 on: November 01, 2024, 12:26:41 AM »

I think the recent run of disappointing results is more down to a drop off in form of several key players. Against Cardiff nobody played particularly well. But you can't expect Corberan to throw overboard all he's learned about football. He's got to stick with his methods, that have proved largely successful in his career, and get the players better in what he's teaching them.

Finishing is a definite area that needs working on. We are not clinical around the goal.Alot of players look like they are happy to settle for corners. You can have a 100 corners, but they don't count for points. 

We also play the ball too slowly through the midfield.  Raic is a typical example of a player who finds it easier to pass back, than doing a Yokuslu-esque turn on the ball. Also, a lot of the players look like they are on different wavelengths. We should be attacking as a unit. That's about coaching players to make automatic runs when the ball is in certain situations. With injuries that's going to be more difficult, as you want to build up understanding between groups of players.

However, one thing you can say about Corberan is that he comes across as very passionate about the club. That's more than you can say about the majority of managers in recent memory. It wins him alot of brownie points in my book.


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Re: Carlos Corberan
« Reply #3761 on: November 01, 2024, 08:27:24 AM »
To name just a few:

That we were going to blow everyone away with our forward line.

"I can't see what Mowatt does, he's too slow".

As far as I can remember you have never been right on anything, and when other posters disagree with you, you accuse them of "having it in for you."

And on a open forum that is my opinion.

This isn’t the “what did zippyandbungle get wrong” thread it’s the Carlos Corberan thread and people don’t open different threads here to see people bickering about all sorts.

You are both entitled to your opinions so how about keeping it civil? As somebody else said - it’s boring.


Back to Corberan. So I said at some point if we took into account the injury crisis last year we have now built a squad capable of coping with the like and those complaining about not seeing new signings probably just need to practice some patience. It’s now time to see how they do as we’re likely to see a team tonight 3 new faces in defence, possibly 1 or 2 in midfield and Maja who don’t really feature last season. So we’re seeing the noobies introduced now and maybe, just maybe, we’ll get some examples of why Corberan was cautious to throw too many in the mix too soon? Or maybe it’s been timed just right.

Why do we have to “blame” Corberan OR the players? Is football not a team sport and a collaborative effort where all departments can hold some accountability?
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« Reply #3762 on: November 01, 2024, 07:31:00 PM »
Zipitbungle is fighting losing battles over several threads.

Give in and accept you are wrong.

In addition to lewisants post, cut the pathetic insults.

Changing someones username is childish, this ain't a playground, one more and your next ban will also be your longest
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Re: Carlos Corberan
« Reply #3763 on: November 01, 2024, 07:41:47 PM »
Will be more cautious than ever with todays news

Spot on lookin at his team sheet tonight !negative again

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« Reply #3764 on: November 01, 2024, 08:47:31 PM »
This isn’t the “what did zippyandbungle get wrong” thread it’s the Carlos Corberan thread and people don’t open different threads here to see people bickering about all sorts.

You are both entitled to your opinions so how about keeping it civil? As somebody else said - it’s boring.


Back to Corberan. So I said at some point if we took into account the injury crisis last year we have now built a squad capable of coping with the like and those complaining about not seeing new signings probably just need to practice some patience. It’s now time to see how they do as we’re likely to see a team tonight 3 new faces in defence, possibly 1 or 2 in midfield and Maja who don’t really feature last season. So we’re seeing the noobies introduced now and maybe, just maybe, we’ll get some examples of why Corberan was cautious to throw too many in the mix too soon? Or maybe it’s been timed just right.

Why do we have to “blame” Corberan OR the players? Is football not a team sport and a collaborative effort where all departments can hold some accountability?
Agree and apologies for my part in the disagreement..

Corberan is going to have some serious questions to answer after this match.
I think the selection really looks strange .
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Re: Carlos Corberan
« Reply #3765 on: November 01, 2024, 09:48:50 PM »
He did his job at the time. Love the bloke, but now please look upwards. Time to say... goodbye?

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« Reply #3766 on: November 01, 2024, 09:54:18 PM »
He did his job at the time. Love the bloke, but now please look upwards. Time to say... goodbye?
great, new manager and a relegation fight to look forward to just like last time people thought the grass was greener.

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« Reply #3767 on: November 01, 2024, 09:58:34 PM »
He did his job at the time. Love the bloke, but now please look upwards. Time to say... goodbye?

We’ve been so poor lately that Mr Patel must be concerned. He’s a successful businessman so he won’t put up with CC for much longer

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« Reply #3768 on: November 01, 2024, 10:01:02 PM »
Top 6, lightened the wage bill, players appear happy with CC, yep Patel must be chomping at the bit to sack him.


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« Reply #3769 on: November 01, 2024, 10:01:08 PM »
We’ve been so poor lately that Mr Patel must be concerned. He’s a successful businessman so he won’t put up with CC for much longer
I hope so
Every manager has a shelf life in a position…Corberans is up now .
The best players tonight were the ones he HAD to pick not the ones he CHOOSE to select .
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« Reply #3770 on: November 01, 2024, 10:02:20 PM »
Very poor spell. Football tonight was abysmal, just constantly launching it.

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« Reply #3771 on: November 01, 2024, 10:03:00 PM »
Top 6, lightened the wage bill, players appear happy with CC, yep Patel must be chomping at the bit to sack him.
Have you watched us the last 7 games !dire

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« Reply #3772 on: November 01, 2024, 10:03:21 PM »
Starting to feel like the later parts of the Bilic era and dare I see Val too
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« Reply #3773 on: November 01, 2024, 10:05:25 PM »
Midfield trio of Mowatt, Molumby and Swift worked perfectly first 6 games. Have they played together since? Not sure what has happened since Sheffield Wednesday away?!

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« Reply #3774 on: November 01, 2024, 10:15:17 PM »
Corberan is by miles the best option available to us- he’s working miracles with a very limited squad and budget- expectations are completely unrealistic owing to our fast start.

We don’t have a squad capable of dictating games and we lost our standout midfielder (Yokuslu) in the summer. Central midfield looks very average and we don’t have a striker that the ball sticks to to get us up the pitch.

Changing manager won’t do a thing, this squad has limitations- lots of them.

January will need to be very smart busines to get us into the Top 6 in May, but really we need another summer on our backs to rotate some of the squad out and add the quality we need.