[wba13]

Beras**t sounds like the old  knacker I bought great post     dont  ask

[BB74]

I wonder if he's walking round like Billy Big Balls yet and peeing off the senior pros.

[Albionic]

I wonder if he's walking round like Billy Big Balls yet and peeing off the senior pros.

give it a couple of years and he'll be peeing ON senior pros!

[barnestormer]

Just gets better.

Collymore now in the papers saying he 'should have mentored Berahino' 

http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-i-should-have-mentored-troubled-berahino-says-stan-collymore/story-30117626-detail/story.html

When the fat kid wasn't out of his face Stan could have took him round some of his old haunts.
Mainly woodland car parks.
What a role model to any young player.

You couldn't make it up could you? Imagine collymore mentoring him,the pair of them on Cannock chase dogging together and learning him how to wack a woman

[VVVAlbion]

I would never suggest it in a million years to be Collie more but he may have a point about mentoring our academy players. The Berahino problems may never have occurred with sensible support and management from a senior pro.

Young lads with little brains and lots of money. How could it possibly go wrong?

[Dudleylad]

The problem is how do you keep potential stars grounded players now no longer serve any type of apprenticeship when they break into the first team and are often earning tens of thousands a week before they have proved anything long term.

[TheBrom]

The problem is how do you keep potential stars grounded players now no longer serve any type of apprenticeship when they break into the first team and are often earning tens of thousands a week before they have proved anything long term.

Exactly that. Pulis mentioned this in a recent interview. Said kids are earning thousands a week and thinking they've made it already instead of understanding how to win things

[Albionic]

Exactly that. Pulis mentioned this in a recent interview. Said kids are earning thousands a week and thinking they've made it already instead of understanding how to win things

I don't buy that generalisation, Spuds and soton (for 2) seem to be able to develop successful kids who earn mega bucks

[liverbaggie]

Put their wages into an account that they cant get at the money until they are say 25.

Give them a weekly allowance and buy them an apartment and a car and educate them, send them to a language school.

Training twice a day and feed them properly.

They must visit a local school and hospital once a week.

Visit local companies get involved locally.

Or who cares really?

Perhaps make them available to meet fans every month.
 

[costa blanca baggie]

Just gets better.

Collymore now in the papers saying he 'should have mentored Berahino' 

http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-i-should-have-mentored-troubled-berahino-says-stan-collymore/story-30117626-detail/story.html

When the fat kid wasn't out of his face Stan could have took him round some of his old haunts.
Mainly woodland car parks.
What a role model to any young player.

Nice one Colliedog. Thought about popping in on your way around the Shoal Hill estate, but couldn't be arsed. He was probably psyching himself up to playing the big 'I am' in Bar Sports in Cannock. backside!

[Aixelsyd]

When trying to work out how, why or what went wrong with SB, you also need to factor in the unusual circumstances the influence of his Mother brings.

From what I have been told and can also see in reports when she is mentioned, she has (and probably quite rightly considering her unfortunate history) a huge distrust of authority.

As is well reported, his close relationship with her (as they should be) has, I feel, also give him an instinctive reaction of the line..  "don't tell me what to do".

It becomes very difficult for the Club's Management to control or even Mentor someone with an ingrained and deep seated distrust of this type and it has influenced the type of people who he has surrounded him with, to his detriment.. 

Hopefully the Club's development program has learned a lesson from it all..  and also let not ssume all our Juniors are going to act the same way.

[TheBrom]

I don't buy that generalisation, Spuds and soton (for 2) seem to be able to develop successful kids who earn mega bucks

Just repeating what Pulis has mentioned. It's clearly an issue in our set up if he felt the need to say it publicly..

[The Black Pearl]

This whole episode has heaped enormous pressure on Berahino, he knows people will be looking at him to fail or muck up again.

If he starts on Saturday, he will need to perform, if he is on the bench, when he comes on, expectation will weigh heavy, if he does not feature, speculation will begin that he is not up to first team football.

[geoff]

This whole episode has heaped enormous pressure on Berahino, he knows people will be looking at him to fail or muck up again.

If he starts on Saturday, he will need to perform, if he is on the bench, when he comes on, expectation will weigh heavy, if he does not feature, speculation will begin that he is not up to first team football.

He has to return to the form that got him to the fringes of a full England call up within 12 months or he could disappear dramatically down the tables. 

[LoxleyBaggie]

Stoke already seem to be managing him very badly.  There is no way that Mark Huges, Berahino himself and Berahion's agent should have been going to the press blaming West Brom for him not playing, given what they knew. They should have been giving the message that what happened in the past, stays in the past.  The fact that the media already knew they were lying and were waiting with a story that would contradict them has left them all with egg on their face.  Its now wonder they are desperate to offload the blame onto Pulis.  Even if the confirmation came from West Brom, Stoke deserve little sympathy after deliberately feeding the media lies at our expense.

Berahino already struggles to take responsibility for his actions, this was at the heart of his dressing room spat. Hughes, and now senior pros at the club, portraying him as some passive victim is just heading for trouble and letting him anywhere near journalists is never going to end happily.  Unless he starts performing this is going to blow up in their faces.

[VVVAlbion]

Stoke are only doing exactly what we have done and will do again, manipulate the media to protect their asset and image. Some Stoke fans will blindly believe all that comes from their club in the same way that some Albion fans do. The truth is out there but so is a lot of fake news. Pinch of salt.

On Berahino, who cares? Not our problem now, just hope lessons are learnt.

[baggiejohn]

This whole episode has heaped enormous pressure on Berahino, he knows people will be looking at him to fail or muck up again.

If he starts on Saturday, he will need to perform, if he is on the bench, when he comes on, expectation will weigh heavy, if he does not feature, speculation will begin that he is not up to first team football.

Spot on.

Whoever decided to leak the information to the ban to the press, the tactic worked 100%. IMO Saido was shocked at the level of venom coming his way. I'm not sure he will get that in future games (except at the Albion).

One thing that's puzzling me about the episode? Mark Hughes claimed that WBA had known about the ban for "6 or 7" months. If that were the case, then wouldn't the ban have been around July/August last year? & if that were the case, wouldn't TP have been telling the truth, that Saido wasn't picked because he wasn't fit.

[The Black Pearl]

Spot on.

Whoever decided to leak the information to the ban to the press, the tactic worked 100%. IMO Saido was shocked at the level of venom coming his way. I'm not sure he will get that in future games (except at the Albion).

One thing that's puzzling me about the episode? Mark Hughes claimed that WBA had known about the ban for "6 or 7" months. If that were the case, then wouldn't the ban have been around July/August last year? & if that were the case, wouldn't TP have been telling the truth, that Saido wasn't picked because he wasn't fit.

Mark Hughes is just trying to blame the Albion for Saturdays defeat, he chose to sign Berahino, he chose to play Berahino, the buck stops with him, everything else is just hot air.

Berahino has been playing at being a professional football for two years, no longer can he get away with it!

[hardtobeat]

Mark Hughes is just trying to blame the Albion for Saturdays defeat, he chose to sign Berahino, he chose to play Berahino, the buck stops with him, everything else is just hot air.

Berahino has been playing at being a professional football for two years, no longer can he get away with it!

Exactly ! Listen to any Hughes presser after a defeat by any team outside of the top 6 and it is NEVER his or his teams fault. He will blame anything e.g refs , bad luck , long grass, short grass etc etc

[BoingFlyer]

I don't think it really matters who leaked it to the press. Mark Hughes is being naive if he thinks it was never going to get leaked and he has handled it terribly once it did leak.

Ultimately it's not our problem so he can huff and puff as much as he likes.

[wba13]

Who cares what any clayheads think we got rid of the problem and Stoke willingly took him of our hands. If they can`t handle the fallout tough we had the dickhead sulking for 18 months so they can have the problem for the next 5 years IF HE LASTS THAT LONG AND I DOUBT THAT.

[wimbledon baggie]

Ever bought a secondhand car only to get it home & you find out it's fugged? 

For Sale:

Manufacturer:Berahino
Model:          S (MK1)
Year:            1993
Made:           Burundi
Developed:   West Bromwich (UK)
Mileage:       Very high (some might say very, very high)
MOT:            No (failed last test)
Fuel:            Hybrid (Gas & Coke)
Guarantee:   None! due to high maintenance costs

The curves on this model will get heads turning & people definitely talking, 1 extremely careful owner from new, initial usage was excellent but has let a lot of people down recently.
Price reduced down to £12 million from £20 million only a few months ago, this was due to niggling issues such as re-shaping around the middle & excessive attitude problems.
Can be viewed waddling around a Premier league ground near you but be quick as this model wont be there for long.

EDIT: *SOLD* to a Mr Hughes in Stoke on Trent
Please note this was 'sold as seen' there are definitely, definitely NO returns (even if you did find a little leak after purchase)

Very well done Sir!  Round of applause.

Whoever is registered on Oatcake can they please post this and watch the reaction?!

[TheBrom]

This whole episode has heaped enormous pressure on Berahino, he knows people will be looking at him to fail or muck up again.

If he starts on Saturday, he will need to perform, if he is on the bench, when he comes on, expectation will weigh heavy, if he does not feature, speculation will begin that he is not up to first team football.

As will he

[BB74]

Didn't even get off the bench today 

[KYA]

Didn't even get off the bench today 

Fitness getting worse then  .