[DevonInStripes]

Thought we changed from passing around at the back to booting it downfield , both styles seemingly have a lack of success from an attacking prospective . Thought Cole was unlucky not to score and is certainly worth introducing on a more regular basis . Overall we didn’t do enough to win so content with the point despite the winless run continuing .

[graka]

I’d have taken a point beforehand, but a dreadful performance and game of football generally
I think our back four stood up to the long balls well
Mowatt/Racic doesn’t work it has to be molumby alongside mowatt who had a really poor night
Wallace and diangana were anonymous Wallace chased around like a headless chicken he’s lost through the middle
Good goal from maja with little to no service and support
Grant played well, well he tried at least
Palmer looked shaky again and his distribution is has bad has johnstones was who bloody trains our goalies
Cole did enough in his 20 minutes to show he warrants a place on the bench with no other striker available and Johnston looked bright when he came on
A tough run of games which may lead to more criticism of cc if we drop out of the top 6
I’d have liked to have seen the Cole/ maja partnership for more than 5 minutes

[AbbeymeadBaggie]

Can't remember watching games being such a chore since Pulis.

MUCH CREDIT to the travelling fans.

Heggem, Furlong and Grant - good

Best thing all night was the clarity in which Palmer was called a Time-wasting Prick by a Luton Fan just before the 2nd half kicked off. Made me laugh

Thought we did well to hold on for 1/2 hour when they had momentum.

[wba_1996]

Mentality
System
Manager

We’re trying to build something under the new owners after years of going backwards. We can’t just keep changing managers every time we go on a bad run, it’s not worked for the past 10 years and we’ve got a very promising young manager at the club. He just needs to be braver.

He tried something different today with the 442, didn’t really work but you can tell he’s getting frustrated with the performances and trying to figure it out. It’s pretty bad atm but I’m sticking with CC.

[caravanc58]

Back 4 solid considering it's a new set up. Maja no support at all except his brilliant goal when we actually got in Lutons area. Quite rightly removed Diangana and the non effective Wallace who keeps getting game time after dreadful displays.

[hunsletbaggie]

Mowatt's mistake cost us they could have played all night and Luton wouldn''t have scored a goal

[KN22]

We’re trying to build something under the new owners after years of going backwards. We can’t just keep changing managers every time we go on a bad run, it’s not worked for the past 10 years and we’ve got a very promising young manager at the club. He just needs to be braver.

He tried something different today with the 442, didn’t really work but you can tell he’s getting frustrated with the performances and trying to figure it out. It’s pretty bad atm but I’m sticking with CC.

An extremely sensible post if I may say so. Things are not going great at the moment but they are surely not bad enough to consider sacking the manager? I don’t think it will happen anyway.

[paulosull]

Quality on show this evening was poor from our lot with Luton not much better so point probably a fair result. Draws won’t keep us in playoff positions so Carlos needs to get his finger out .

[Adamstv]

Even sky are lost for words about that match

[Aztech]

We’re trying to build something under the new owners after years of going backwards. We can’t just keep changing managers every time we go on a bad run, it’s not worked for the past 10 years and we’ve got a very promising young manager at the club. He just needs to be braver.

He tried something different today with the 442, didn’t really work but you can tell he’s getting frustrated with the performances and trying to figure it out. It’s pretty bad atm but I’m sticking with CC.

Thankfully someone who understands.

[zac]

We’re trying to build something under the new owners after years of going backwards. We can’t just keep changing managers every time we go on a bad run, it’s not worked for the past 10 years and we’ve got a very promising young manager at the club. He just needs to be braver.

He tried something different today with the 442, didn’t really work but you can tell he’s getting frustrated with the performances and trying to figure it out. It’s pretty bad atm but I’m sticking with CC.

The most sense that has been posted on here in a good while.

[wba_1996]

The 3 in behind Maja are the issue, and have been all season. Stats they showed before kick off summed it up, before Grant’s assist today we only had Fellows with either a goal or an assist.

Swift - tidy but too passive and shot-shy
Johnson - very predictable and gets crowded out easily
Fellows - I’ve never been fully sold. He’s very good at his one trick, but based on his general play, shooting, physicality and pace he’s nowhere near a £10m player
Grant - the only one showing any directness and attacking instinct currently, but limited technically
Wallace - finished sadly, he’s a yard behind play and extremely one-dimensional. He can’t do his knock on and outpace the defender anymore so offers nothing
Diangana - assuming the injuries have ruined him, but wow he’s awful now. He can’t get away with being so weak and wasteful in possession considering he scores or creates nothing

[beechyboy90]

Thought Heggem was excellent didn't think Holgate was bad. Both full backs good enough styles much improved.

Team selection was cowardly when will we go back to utilizing our 2 flying wingers? Grant should be either in a 2 up top or left wing with Johnstone playing in 10.

Cole has proved he is infinitely better than Dobbin or Wallace up top. We missed molumby and his energy tonight. One bad pass cost us 2 points sadly. 7 without a win

[chipperclark]

  Thought the back 4 played well. We need Molumby to start...him and Mowatt the only "engines" we have .Try Rasic at 10 and play 2 upfront.....Maja struggling badly on his own.....no service at all.
Diangana is a wallflower does nothing. Grant played well and chased everything.
We need an organiser in the Jan window otherwise we are going to finish in the bottom 10....sorry to be negative but that's how I see it.

[WBA]

A desperate, dysfunctional performance.

The first half was pathetic lifted only by a semi-fortuitous goal.

There was only one Luton player capable of scoring tonight and we gave him an early xmas present albeit due to woeful play/defending by Mowatt/Furlong and Holgate.

Sadly, Carlos's days are seemingly coming to an end at the Hawthorns unless he can arrest this slide.  He has had 7 games to change tactics/formation to try and win a game of football and failed miserably.   No doubt he'll be given time to try and turn it round but looking at the Nov/Dec fixtures I fear we will be well out of contention come the new year.   It's then a question of faith and whether Shilen sticks with Him. 

Shout out tonight for Heggem, Styles and Grant and also to Cole for at least having a good go.  Let's hope Carlos gives Him a few more minutes now he deserves it on tonight's cameo.

[chipperclark]

Got the penalty decision correct on Styles he was pushed into a handball. Should have been a free kick to us but he gave a corner🤔🤔

[Hull Baggie]

The 3 in behind Maja are the issue, and have been all season. Stats they showed before kick off summed it up, before Grant’s assist today we only had Fellows with either a goal or an assist.

Swift - tidy but too passive and shot-shy
Johnson - very predictable and gets crowded out easily
Fellows - I’ve never been fully sold. He’s very good at his one trick, but based on his general play, shooting, physicality and pace he’s nowhere near a £10m player
Grant - the only one showing any directness and attacking instinct currently, but limited technically
Wallace - finished sadly, he’s a yard behind play and extremely one-dimensional. He can’t do his knock on and outpace the defender anymore so offers nothing
Diangana - assuming the injuries have ruined him, but wow he’s awful now. He can’t get away with being so weak and wasteful in possession considering he scores or creates nothing

Grant has 2 goals to add to the assist.
I'm not sure it's the 3 behind Maja but it's definitely the 10 that's the issue. Swift, Diangana and Wallace had all been failures in the role this season.

Back 4 were generally decent last night but we really laboured in the middle and wide right.
Cole was busy in his cameo and hopefully we'll  see more of him. Nice idea with the overhead kick attempt.
We need Molumby back in the middle for the Burnley game.

[Standaman]

A few observations.

Terrible game of football brightened by few moments of quality, I had to remind myself that Luton were in the Premier League last season but we weren't any better.

Many fans myself included have wanted Carlos to ring the changes. He did and things got worse that is arguably the worst we have played across a whole game in the current downswing.

I am at the point where I simply don't want to see Wallace on the pitch. Playing him centrally has seldom worked during his time here and it didn't again tonight. We got overrun in midfield not because they were better than us they just had more bodies in there and we never got control of the ball centrally. Diangana as inverted right winger has never worked (no I don't know why either) but in something that looked like a 4-4-2 was just lost out there.

Defensively I thought we were sound and our better performers were the defenders. Although there was the collective aberration for the goal which really summed up a poor game overall. The case for Heggem being the Left sided Centre Back is unanswerable it is just a question of who partners him when we have some fit CB's to choose from.

We have to improve on this it wasn't good enough.   

[the other AJ]

People need to settle down. We are undergoing a huge transition as a club  and yes we’ve hit a dip in form on top of that.
Fans calling for Carlos’s head? Are you serious?
We are in the top 10 .
Overperforming from a table position perspective.
If we make the play offs then so be it and if we don’t then it ain’t the end of the world.
1 sideways square pass that was misplaced is all that happened.

[Blowee]

People need to settle down. We are undergoing a huge transition as a club  and yes we’ve hit a dip in form on top of that.
Fans calling for Carlos’s head? Are you serious?
We are in the top 10 .
Overperforming from a table position perspective.
If we make the play offs then so be it and if we don’t then it ain’t the end of the world.
1 sideways square pass that was misplaced is all that happened.

Whilst I get and accept all of that I’m so bored watching us at the moment. I can’t see what certain players are been asked to do. Wallace and Grady are totally anonymous every time they play. Racic doesn’t seem to offer very much at all. When we bring our wingers on they seem to make no effort to get down the flanks or put crosses into the box. If we are working on ways to break down the opposition in training there is no evidence of it at all in games. Whilst I’m very much in team Corberan if he’s such a great coach why do we look so poor at the moment?

[NJS]

Only watched 1st half but it deemed to me to be an answer to those who clamour for the ball to be moved more quickly forward.  With our current squad all that happens is that we give away possession and invite pressure.

CC knows what's possible with our current midfield.  I think that Racic got a starting pace over JM solely because of his height but JM must return to put some energy there. 

It's a long term project while we accumulate some spending money under the present rules.  Stop pining for  promotion for a couple of seasons.

[Blowee]

Personally I don’t want promotion yet (far too soon with this squad needing new blood). However, I want some entertainment along the way. It feels demoralising watching us lately. It’s boring and that’s not what I love about watching football. If I wanted sport played in this way I’d watch chess.

[ex coseley kid]

I actually thought it was a much better game than the last four.

There was pace to it in the first half and I think we would have got all three points if not for Mowatt's (in my opinion) appalling gaffe.

Really enjoying Grant's work at the moment. We're totally rebuilding here after the calamity of Lai's deconstruction. Anyone calling for Corberan's head is (again, IMO) unreasonable.

Sit tight.

[halifax_baggie]

Styles is not a fullback, his energy and determination may be better employed in midfield, generally back four pretty solid considering they had not played together. Midfield is the problem with Diagana and Wallace contributing nothing. Racic has skill and ability to make a pass but really needs to adjust to the championship and use his physicality better, Mowatt cannot do it all alone. Swift added to the midfield when he came on but when he starts he lack momentum. The overhead from Cole showed one of the few moments of skill and is worth a place on the bench. Fellows and Johnson  ----Meh Maja, Furlong and Grant the best of the bunch (Never thought I would say that about them last season)
We need a midfielder with the vision of Swift and the tenacity of Molumby who incidentally was one of the better players in his cameo

[NJS]

unfortunately CC seemingly does not rate Frabotta.  when I wtched him play in the PL2, he didn't "pull up any trees" but maybe he'll get there.