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« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2024, 01:33:41 PM »
Yup just re-watching old PO games and Leeds Derby, Leeds were in complete control until a defensive mix up allowed Derby back in the game they eventually turned it around

Speaking of, no one gave Derby a prayer to the turn the tie around so we must go in with belief we can do it!

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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2024, 04:18:39 PM »
Wolves in talks with Che Adams over free transfer - E+S

Hopefully put's him off his game if he's fit

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« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2024, 04:20:04 PM »
Wolves in talks with Che Adams over free transfer - E+S

Hopefully put's him off his game if he's fit

He ain't goint to want to get crocked then :-)
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« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2024, 04:35:55 PM »
He ain't goint to want to get crocked then :-)

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« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2024, 04:36:01 PM »
Where is the best drinking place in Southampton for the Albion fans?

Probably the Standing Order, Wetherspoons in the High Street
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« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2024, 05:32:39 PM »
Sounds like Maja will only be involved if CC has no forwards.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/carlos-corberan-left-west-brom-29177282

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« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2024, 10:04:07 PM »
I have a feeling that Carlos will start with the same eleven as in the first leg, though I would not be surprised if Wallace replaces either Johnstone or Fellows with Wallace.
What really is going to be key is how well he manages the substituions, especially if there is no more than one goal between the teams after an hour or so.
Is a sixth sub allowed in extra time - or was that just FA cup games?  If so then Maja might get a late chance after all.
Tongue in cheek, but is Grant elegible to play?  Wpuldn't it be ironic if he snatched the winner in the last minute oftime added on to extra time.....

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« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2024, 10:50:37 PM »
Grant will not be involved I’m glad to say.

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« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2024, 12:11:19 PM »
Sounds like Maja will only be involved if CC has no forwards.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/carlos-corberan-left-west-brom-29177282

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It's interesting to note that he mentions that Maja always trains well, so that's a good thing at least it's not an attitude issue and is more than likely about match sharpness/fitness.

Personally; since he's been on the bench and got minutes in the league, I'd have him on the bench even if he only gets 10 mins or so at the end of the game.
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« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2024, 12:38:04 PM »
It's interesting to note that he mentions that Maja always trains well, so that's a good thing at least it's not an attitude issue and is more than likely about match sharpness/fitness.

Personally; since he's been on the bench and got minutes in the league, I'd have him on the bench even if he only gets 10 mins or so at the end of the game.

Me too. Given how many subs you can name nowadays, I see little or no risk in making him one of them.

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« Reply #60 on: May 16, 2024, 01:00:38 PM »
Okay's interview saying they are expecting them to start more aggressive, first 15 mins will be key have to weather the inevitable early storm and hopefully start getting a hold in the game.

I agree with others I'd swap BTA for Jed and keep the same team, Tom and MJ are our outlet they have to start and JW can hopefully cause a nuisance like he did vs Leicester

Hopefully Diang has worked on his finishing this week

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« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2024, 01:59:52 PM »
Interesting article in the i on the man most of us seem to hate

https://app.inews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/498/2024/05/pugpig_pdfpages/20240516_inews_inational_053_spt.jpg

Martin has built a foundation for Saints to rise once more
Charity work and a promotion fight fuels young boss, writes Oliver Young Myles
Plotting Southampton's escape from the Championship may be Russell Martin's immediate focus, but the charitable foundation bearing his name that was established seven years ago is never far from his thoughts.
Initially, the aims of the Russell Martin Foundation were relatively modest: provide high quality foot ball coaching to young children in East and West Sussex and Brighton and Hove, where the 38-year-old grew up. What began with a dozen kids kicking footballs around has morphed into something much bigger. The foundation's various projects, which encompass education and health as well as football, now provides support to thousands of people in those communities. It employs over 70 people and is comparable in size to the charitable arms of some Championship football clubs.
It's a passion project for the Saints boss who has frequently spoken up about issues that impact wider society, ranging from climate change to Brexit to domestic abuse. Martin witnessed violent behaviour from his father towards his mother as a child. "It started off by trying to provide opportunities to people just through football as the vehicle and now that's spread out to providing opportunities for so many kids through so many avenues," Martin tells i. "But I don't think the core values have ever changed. It's about making people feel like they belong and trying to improve young people's lives through the game that we love."
The Extra Time Project is one of the foundation's most recent initiatives and offers an alternative education provision to young people who have struggled in mainstream schooling, many of whom have suffered forms of abuse, violence and poverty. During this academic year, the project has supported more than 300 vulnerable young people so far with the vast majority returning to schools with significant improvement in school attendance and their own wellbeing.
"It's opened everyone's eyes really that actually there's a lot of deprivation on our doorstep, way more than we thought it was," he says. "Brighton and Hove is deemed as this nice, middle-class, affluent area, but actually in and around it there are a lot of people who need a lot of help and there are areas that have been forgotten about. You don't need to be defined by your circumstances or environment all the time," he adds. "It is so difficult for young people to understand that unless they have people along the way who can open their eyes.
"If they come from a family of abuse, trauma, violence, poverty - I had to endure some of that as a kid myself and if it wasn't for a few really important people along the way, Alan (Sanders, the foundation's director and a former youth coach of Martin's) being one of them - then you don't really have your eyes  opened. You think this is it."
The foundation has maintained its footballing roots, though, and offers FA accredited coaching and access to high-level facilities to people of all abilities from all walks of life.
The foundation has maintained its footballing roots, though, and offers FA accredited coaching and access to high-level facilities to people of all abilities from all walks of life
There are weekly football courses for girls, organised training and matches for people with disabilities and walking football for over 50s. There is also an education programme for adolescents aged 16-19 who have slipped through the cracks at professional clubs. While the academy has acted for children and teenagers to join some of the biggest clubs in the country, the prevailing ethos is "personal progression" over "results driven" goals. Since joining Southampton last summer, Martin has sought to instill a positive mindset in a squad that had "lost a lot of joy for the game" after suffering relegation from the Premier League the previous season. The Saints finished fourth in the Championship and have a chance of securing an immediate return to the top-flight via the play-offs. They are favourites to reach the final when they host West Bromwich Albion tomorrow after drawing 0-0 in their semi-final first leg at the Hawthorns.
"A lot of players were thinking that they would go or were wanting to leave. A lot of staff were fearing for their jobs. So you walk in and you feel that energy straight away.
"When you walk in as the guy who has to steer the ship around, it's a bit like ok this is going to be a bigger challenge than maybe we thought'". As well as transforming the mood, Martin sought to transform the team's playing style too, moving them towards a more patient, possession based approach after years of playing a high energy pressing game without the ball under Ralph Hasenhuttl.
It's a philosophy that has been synonymous with Martin throughout his managerial career so far across stints with MK Dons in Leagues One and Two and Swansea City and Southampton in the Championship. His teams play in a style that he "would love to have played in".
Southampton's emphasis on methodical ball retention hasn't been to everyone's tastes. Martin, like similarly progressive coaches, has faced criticism for being too wedded to his approach and lacking flexibility. "I think managers get celebrated when they win, as Vincent [Kompany] did last year when Burnley were brilliant and the best team [in the Championship] by miles and as Ange [Postecoglou] did when he first went to Spurs and the results were really good," he says.
"Then the first time there is difficulty or you lose it's always 'they have to adapt'. I watched Burnley last year and they adapted in every single game without losing the concept of what Vincent wanted. I watched [Postecoglou's] Celtic a lot in the Champions League and they had some really brilliant games, same at Spurs.
"People talk about risk. The risk for me is only having 30 per cent of the ball and trying to do something with it and defending really close to your own goal. What's a bigger risk for me?"
Regardless of which division Southampton are in next season, Martin is confident that "amazing foundations" are in place for the club to build on. He's proud that the same can be said for his charitable organisation.

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« Reply #62 on: May 16, 2024, 02:32:15 PM »
That's all very laudable. Yet if Russell Martin were a bar of chocolate I imagine he'd still very likely eat himself before throwing up and eating himself again just to be sure he'd extracted the last bit of himself humanly possible. Even the hairspray  ;) .
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« Reply #63 on: May 16, 2024, 02:36:21 PM »
It's interesting to note that he mentions that Maja always trains well, so that's a good thing at least it's not an attitude issue and is more than likely about match sharpness/fitness.

Personally; since he's been on the bench and got minutes in the league, I'd have him on the bench even if he only gets 10 mins or so at the end of the game.

Dangerous game not having him involved at all in my view

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« Reply #64 on: May 16, 2024, 02:56:12 PM »
Grumpy Baggie having read some of your post I stopped after I got to the virtue signalling part and it just confirmed my thoughts on  Martin being a  wooden handle made of wood.

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« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2024, 03:50:42 PM »
I would play Wallace for BTA for this game. I think BTA worked hard but the game bypassed him for large parts of the game. Wallace although limited up front would offer more in terms of coming to get the ball etc. Wouldn't make any more changes

But obviously we will wait and see 

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« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2024, 03:58:03 PM »
For anyone going to Southampton tomorrow the Albion designated pubs are the following ( Yates 113 -117 Above Bar Street )  ( Scholars 166 Above Bar Street )  ( Giddy Bridge 10 -16 London Road )  I will be using all three throughout the day.
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« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2024, 05:28:50 PM »
0-2 Bartley/Johnston. Job done.

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« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2024, 05:30:00 PM »
Sky are desperate for that to be the final
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« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2024, 10:34:40 AM »
Sadly having to watch this one from afar but there with you all in spirit
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« Reply #70 on: May 17, 2024, 11:13:57 AM »
Whatever happens tonight, happens. If we don't manage to beat saints, I'll not be (massively) down or upset. We've still had a great season compared to what most of us expected. I'm really happy with what the manager, coaches and players have done this season. I hope they give their all tonight and get a result, but even if its not to be, even if we get a bit of a hiding like Norwich did last night, I think we've done great this season. I'm a happy baggie however it turns out.

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« Reply #71 on: May 17, 2024, 11:14:43 AM »
Sadly having to watch this one from afar but there with you all in spirit
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« Reply #72 on: May 17, 2024, 11:24:11 AM »
We have lost twice this season to them. Let it be third time lucky for us.

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« Reply #73 on: May 17, 2024, 11:32:45 AM »
Let's play like we did against Leicester, Wallace for BTA otherwise unchanged. Fustrate them but even if we lose it's been a great season. Let's hope we use this as a push to build a decent squad and then go again. Carlos has done wonders whatever happens tonight COYB
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« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2024, 11:34:09 AM »
We have lost twice this season to them. Let it be third time lucky for us.
Bomber said last weekend, it's rare for a team to beat another 3 times in one season.
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