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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: System / Tactics / Personnel
« on: January 18, 2025, 08:54:21 PM »
With Maja out for a while not sure it's worth having 2 wide men with nobody to cross to, do you think Mowbray might change the formation?
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Could we see the rebirth of Swift?Mowbray likes good footballers Swift and Dianganna are probably technically our 2 best players, i'm also not sure he will set up with 2 wide players it's going to be interesting for sure.
The five minutes of madness was due to an unmarked player (Burroughs?) on their left wing. On both occasions, the ball was swung across there and he had more than sufficient time to put in a low accurate cross. It probably should have been Fellows covering his opposite number but we were going all-out attack up to that point.You make a really good point a lot of fans seem happy that the last 2 homes games we are playing on the front foot, Carlos has let the handbrake off yet we have conceded 4 really poor goals 3 of them crosses into the 6 yard box, goals you normally wouldn't expect us to concede, if we have to keep scoring 3 goals to win a game we are more likely to lose games, i'm not sure what the answer is except maybe it more understandable that Carlos sets us up to play slightly more defensive away from home.
You can't have it both ways.
Well he was good enough to be first choice under Carlo Ancelotti.His poor pass should have cost us an equaliser today, and he does struggle in the air a little bit but is a definite upgrade on Ajayi.
As I expected he and Heggem are proving to be our best ch pairing.
So on that basis you would keep him in January instead of looking for better?Unless we somehow manage to get someone to take Wallace/Diangana/ Swift of our wage bill we probably can't afford anyone better as Villa will be paying a large percentage of his wages, that's also presuming their is a clause to be able to send him back anyway.
What little bit of promise did you see today?He carries the ball quite well and got their player booked after beating two other players before being cynically fouled. Like I said he has a lot to learn but his pace can be a good outlet for us if used correctly.
Do you think Dobbin has been better than Sarmiento was for us?Don't think I have said that anywhere, Sarmiento won us 1 game at Cardiff always promised lots but no assists tells you a lot about a player, Dobbin has a lot to learn but the last couple of sub appearances have shown a little bit of promise and that he's beginning to understand what Corberan wants from him.
We decided to send him back.The club website on January 1st clearly states he was recalled by Brighton ( I just googled it) no team should agree to any loan player being guaranteed playing time, Dobbin has clearly impressed CC lately as he being given more game time and I'd Fellows continues to struggle he might find himself in the starting 11.
If we wanted to keep him he would have stayed, all Brighton wanted assurances about was his game time.
So last season we sent back someone in Saremiento who scored great goals and showed a lot more than Dobbin, but we keep on paying Dobbin instead of looking for someone better?We didn't send Sarmiento back he was recalled by Brighton, which enabled us to bring Johnstone in on loan, I'm also not sure Dobbin would have been signed if we knew Johnstone was signing permanently, but he does offer far more than Wallace from the bench.
In a way he is partly responsible if he's setting us up to only try to make 3 or 4 clear cut chances a gameDoes he stand on the side of the pitch and count the number of attacks we have? Seriously though since we had the good start to the season all of the teams we have played are more than happy to sit back and they don't create many chances either and it was noticeable on Wednesday when the game opened up we looked the more likely team to score.
So to be clear you are saying they got one start and should have won and they didn’t so they didn’t deserve more game timeNo I'm saying none of them played well enough to warrant being selected above the players that started the first 5 or 6 games, but had they won would have got more game time in the next round, Corberan picked the wrong team against Wednesday although his hand was partly forced by the injuries to Mowatt and Molumby he should have put an extra midfielder in with Diakite and Racic even though that would have meant leaving out a more attacking player, nothing wrong with the team that started against Oxford as the first half proved and second half we were comfortable playing against a team that just wanted to stay in the game and offered very little and but for individual mistakes not tactical ones ended up only getting a point,
So let’s talk about the team that played against
Oxford& Wednesday??
Another thing that is thrown out there to defend him,along with he’s better than BruceDidn't 6 of them play at Fleetwood? and if they had been good enough to get a result they would have got more gametime no doubt that loss was Corberans fault for making to many changes.
We could have saved a lot more than 30 % if we never signed the players he has clearly already decided he doesn’t want to use.
The more CC plays Jed, the less chance we got of moving him on and it's very important we do.What's keeping Wallace, Diangana and Swift here is nothing to do with weather Corberan plays them or not but the big fat contracts they all have nobody in this division can afford them, all of them were here before Corberan came do you think he would he would have signed any of them given the choice? Wallace is the captain and clearly very popular in the dressing room bombing him out totally might have an adverse effect on the dressing room, unfortunately I don’t see anything changing until their contracts are up.
The entire performance was crummy and I agree everyone has a part.to play but when push comes to shove you need to be able to rely on your defenders to defend.We've been playing players out of position all season, it's amazing how losing such an average player like Townsend causes so many problems, Weimann doesn’t hold the ball up either he's a box player I agree Marshall hasn't been given much of a chance but the bits I have seen of him he is nowhere near ready to start a game.
I've always been a fan of putting square pegs in square holes and we aren't really doing that currently. We have 3 strikers out but still have Weimann who could have a run out but seems his Indian Summer is over and Marshall who seems to be given little chance.
I'm not saying the overall performance improved but the defence wasn't as bad.You defend from the front as good as Fellows and Johnston are going forward they don't help much when we are under pressure and Wallace works hard but isn't a striker picking either Diangana or Swift away from home doesn't really work as they are luxury players and it's puts a lot of pressure on Mowatt and Yokuslu we might be better playing an extra midfielder to try and get control of the game first.
Yes I agree that QPR brought it to us but if we hadn't practically given them the confidence to do so from the off then it might not have been such a one sided game.
I'm not so sure. I think Pieters, Reach and Chalobah seem more important to him at the moment. He had Ajayi and Pipa on bench who are both well ahead of Pieters and Reach but he chose them and it was awful.Both Ajayi and Pipa were on the pitch for more than 30 mins did our performance improve?
He could even have selected just one of those 2 but nope. We all knew he was starting Reach and Pieters before the sheet was out.
Glad to come away with the point regardless
I hope we are not looking at selling Palmer, as he is a main reason the defence has lookedPalmer does constantly organize the defense you can hear him from where we sit in the east stand, i also think he has improved since the new goalkeeper coach came in, we would have to replace him if he left.
more solid. He gives the others more confidence and pulls off top saves. At the same time, I woiuldn't be too harsh on Griffiths on Sunday, but Palmer is clearly the better all round keeper.
And he then will often drop in between Bartley and Kipre too and screen the back 4. I’d like to see us try it with Swift in for Chalobah and then the front 3 of hopefully Diangana, Dike and Wallace. Yokuslu would thrive.IMO Swift would be wasted in a deeper position he don't tackle or work hard enough defensively, it's a difficult conundrum for CC trying to find a system that suits everyone and probably explains our poor away form maybe we need set up differently for home and away games.
No one has probably posted the OY to Turkey rumours that always seem to do the rounds but are always rubbish.I agree he played well for for a few games in the middle of our good run last year other than that has really struggled to stay fit and actually complete games and has only escaped criticism due to his previous spell at the club.
But, I wouldn't be averse to letting him go if we can get a fee and lose his wages and suitable replacement can be brought in on loan.
He was brilliant for us in the Premier league and I hope Jesus's second coming is better than OY, because that old OY should be dominating this league.
Yes it is. Our squads a play off squadWhen everyone is fit i would agree, but the fact we have had to manage with BTA upfront on his own for most of the season so far, i would say we have slightly over achieved, hopefully Dike will stay fit and Weimann will chip in with a few goals to consolidate our position although the away results need improve.
It's not a new phenomenon . Back before loans we so prevalent we ended up with the likes of Dickens, Rosler and others. One small mercy in those days loans were only usually for a month !!One player that sprung to mind when you mentioned loans was Luther Blissett I think he arrived with his zimmer frame.
From a financial view we still need to cut the wage bill, I would rather Reach, Kelly and Pieters depart than players most likely to get us out this league. They're all in their 30's and probably on decent money, you would think with decent scouting or using our own academy we could lower the wage bill without lowering the standard of player departing, collectively those three players have contributed very little this season.I do agree we have better players and unfortunately i can't see anyone wanting to take any of them off our wage bill this month and Kelly and Pieters will defiantly leave at the end of the season, Kelly probably wouldn't be here at all if he hadn't got injured as far as the rest of this season goes IMO CC is more likely to pick the experienced players he trusts than our young academy players especially whilst we are in the top 6 which will mean quite a lot of game time for Reach in particular and maybe Pieters if we switch to a back 5.