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It is a bad sign, although this does seem to be an agreement between the all of the member clubs based on the fact non league sides have such a high turn over of players post 1st June (gutted for Halesowen town who were into the semi final of the FA Trophy as well as being odds on for promotion).

We may however have to be realistic to the fact that the June aspirational date could very easily be unachievable and if that happens, it is a 50/50 toss up around us having the season written off (I suppose it depends on how the laws are written and how they can be interpreted).

One saving grace is Liverpool. They are that far ahead, and they are such a big name that the Premier League will be unlikely to want to take the title off them. If they do give them the league, because "they have been miles ahead all season", then they may have to concede us and Leeds have done a similar thing and allow a 22 team prem next season.

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Whenever football resumes, with spectators, this illness will not have gone away, it will be just that the NHS will be able to cope with the numbers of patients. People will still be at risk of dying from it, so I am expecting that people who are deemed to be at most risk will be advised to stay away. This will probably be the case until a vaccine is available. It could be some time before I set foot inside The Hawthorns again. Take care one and all.

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Whenever football resumes, with spectators, this illness will not have gone away, it will be just that the NHS will be able to cope with the numbers of patients. People will still be at risk of dying from it, so I am expecting that people who are deemed to be at most risk will be advised to stay away. This will probably be the case until a vaccine is available. It could be some time before I set foot inside The Hawthorns again. Take care one and all.

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I think you are right, at some point, all life will return to a new normal, living with the virus around, until, as you say, we have a vaccine or possibly herd or received immunity makes transmission less likely. That would require in excess of 60% of the population to be immune.
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I would imagine that even if things have calmed down a bit/peaked by early summer they will expect squads to be in quarantine for the period of the remaining games and get them done at 3 a week behind closed doors.  Complete guesswork, I am sitting around quite a lot at the moment!

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Comments from exec's at PL clubs being reported in the Athletic that there is a growing appetite for the current season to be abandoned and for the game to restart with a new season whenever that is possible. There are plainly all sorts of issues not least of all the money paid by the broadcasters to screen the games that are now abandoned not least because a large part of that money has now been distributed to the clubs and well this being football spent.

Personally I would still complete the season whenever we can resume and then take stock abandoning/postponing tournaments e.g. the World Cup that have yet to take place rather than ones that are 2/3rd' s complete.

Yet overall this seems trivial at this point. Whatever stay safe fellow Baggies hope to see you at the Hawthorns when we are through this.   
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If they abandoned this season after all the time work and money put into it I'd fall out of love with the game I'd simply lose all interest. I can't see how they can get away with abandoning it to be fair at the very least it has to be played behind closed doors.

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If they abandoned this season after all the time work and money put into it I'd fall out of love with the game I'd simply lose all interest. I can't see how they can get away with abandoning it to be fair at the very least it has to be played behind closed doors.

But if that can put players\staff and their families at risk, is that the right thing to do?

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Were it not for Liverpool being in such a strong position, the season would have been abandoned already.
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But if that can put players\staff and their families at risk, is that the right thing to do?
That's why I wondered about quarantining the squads during the final games, there will be empty hotels everywhere.

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Were it not for Liverpool being in such a strong position, the season would have been abandoned already.

If it was Burnley' or Sheffield United instead of liverpool at the top they also would of cancelled it already.

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Comments from exec's at PL clubs being reported in the Athletic that there is a growing appetite for the current season to be abandoned and for the game to restart with a new season whenever that is possible. There are plainly all sorts of issues not least of all the money paid by the broadcasters to screen the games that are now abandoned not least because a large part of that money has now been distributed to the clubs and well this being football spent.

Personally I would still complete the season whenever we can resume and then take stock abandoning/postponing tournaments e.g. the World Cup that have yet to take place rather than ones that are 2/3rd' s complete.

Yet overall this seems trivial at this point. Whatever stay safe fellow Baggies hope to see you at the Hawthorns when we are through this.   
If the season is to be abandoned surely it is only right that teams go with what they have I.e no transfer window. Yes that may cause problems with loans , out of contracts etc but as so much of the season has been played surely it can't be right that teams have another chance to spend heavily ! Indeed why not finish this season by starting again in January 2021 should have the league s done by Mid March ,finish the fa cup and then still have plenty time to ready  international teams for Euros
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If the season is scrubbed, I hope our grand old founder member club behaves gracefully whatever we might feel like.

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The seasons will be finished. The FA do not fancy having their collective ass sued off by Sky and BT.
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If the season is to be abandoned surely it is only right that teams go with what they have I.e no transfer window. Yes that may cause problems with loans , out of contracts etc but as so much of the season has been played surely it can't be right that teams have another chance to spend heavily ! Indeed why not finish this season by starting again in January 2021 should have the league s done by Mid March ,finish the fa cup and then still have plenty time to ready  international teams for Euros
Thats not a bad idea, postpone next season in effect by extending the existing one into late 2020 early 2021. I’d rather miss a season than waste one that’s 80% done.

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The clubs that have already had their season abandoned are already taking legal action against FA,  if professional leagues were concidered nul and void there would be lawsuits galore for governing bodies to contend with. Can seeBroad casters would want there money back or refuse to pay new season instalment, man city's win in league Cup would be scrubbed and fans could ask to be reimbursed for season tickets.
Who would be eligible to play in Champions league and Europa league? Going down this route would be suicidal for the Fa.

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Thats not a bad idea, postpone next season in effect by extending the existing one into late 2020 early 2021. I’d rather miss a season than waste one that’s 80% done.
I'm not sure the Vile would agree with you there!

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I'm not sure the Vile would agree with you there!
why not? Every club would get the chance to save their season rather than having it taken out of their hands.
There's no guarantee that next season will start on time anyway.

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I'm not sure the Vile would agree with you there!
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Question if this season is voided where does that leave us as fans, as essentially we have paid for a product that never was??

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Most commentators are saying that no global government has an exit strategy for the coronavirus crisis.

I can't see how any authority (Football or otherwise) can develop a contingency plan until they know what the end game is.

According to the medical specialists, even if they do manage to arrest the spread of the virus in the next few months, it could flare up again in the winter of 2020/21, so affecting next season

I suspect, at the moment, football authorities, tv & media are looking at ways to support vulnerable clubs, really can't see a definitive decision coming just yet.
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In 1963 when the big freeze stopped football for best part of three months, the Pools Panel was brought in to predict results to satisfy the gamblers of the day. The results did not actually count in the real world. With modern computer programmes and all the stats available, what about the season being finished by computer ? No human involvement other than programming the info, and TV could make a big thing of producing the results as if they were real games.
I think we would get promoted as well!       

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In 1963 when the big freeze stopped football for best part of three months, the Pools Panel was brought in to predict results to satisfy the gamblers of the day. The results did not actually count in the real world. With modern computer programmes and all the stats available, what about the season being finished by computer ? No human involvement other than programming the info, and TV could make a big thing of producing the results as if they were real games.
I think we would get promoted as well!     

It's been discussed before, IMO it's got some merit, but it's based on the assumption that the pandemic will be over by Autumn.
All the indications suggest that it might die down a bit in the summer months, & then re-occur in Autumn.
I think there will be massive disruptions to next season also.
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It's been discussed before, IMO it's got some merit, but it's based on the assumption that the pandemic will be over by Autumn.
All the indications suggest that it might die down a bit in the summer months, & then re-occur in Autumn.
I think there will be massive disruptions to next season also.
As anyone considered that football in its current guise may not return ever?
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