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Title: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968a on January 11, 2012, 06:21:54 PM
A curious report in The Times today (11/01/12).
QPR have been offered Odemwinge, who is surplus to requirements at WBA.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: howi1068 on January 11, 2012, 06:37:09 PM
Well im sure we would have heard about that. Do you have a link?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968a on January 11, 2012, 06:49:42 PM
Sorry, but The Times is hidden behind a pay wall, so you can't see it unless you subscribe to the newspaper.
Perhaps someone else can check to confirm I'm not dreaming!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionLegend on January 11, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
Surplus to requirements? Utter BS.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BoingFlyer on January 11, 2012, 07:13:58 PM


I just read the same articleand can confirm your not dreaming. very strange, I'm going to put it down to lax journalism!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on January 11, 2012, 07:20:32 PM
Yep surplus to requirements because this club is absolutely over-loaded with good strikers, why do we need Odemwingie when we have so many Premiership quality strikers? We have Long; Cox; Fortune; and Bednar, that's more than enough quality for any club, it's a bit pointless keeping Odemwingie when we've got those four players locked in an intense battle for the two forward positions. Sell him, sell him right now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 11, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
Yep surplus to requirements because this club is absolutely over-loaded with good strikers, why do we need Odemwingie when we have so many Premiership quality strikers? We have Long; Cox; Fortune; and Bednar, that's more than enough quality for any club, it's a bit pointless keeping Odemwingie when we've got those four players locked in an intense battle for the two forward positions. Sell him, sell him right now.

Exactly. I would take a million quid.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 11, 2012, 08:13:59 PM
Exactly. I would take a million quid.
even better release him on a free.

Joke of an article. Blatantly needed by us. Nothing but lazy journos with nothing better to do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 12, 2012, 08:35:25 AM
I also heard this as I listened to talkSport in the press review...

They said we OFFERED him to QPR.
This to me, can only suggest that we must be further down the line of a signing that is let on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on January 12, 2012, 08:50:27 AM
I also heard this as I listened to talkSport in the press review...

They said we OFFERED him to QPR.
This to me, can only suggest that we must be further down the line of a signing that is let on.
That's the only thing it suggests to you? Doesn't it also suggest to you that talkSport's claim is complete and utter absolute bull?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 12, 2012, 09:24:14 AM
I am not sure about this plainly QPR have money to spend and might pay over the odds given their plight. On the basis of his performance against Everton I would not hesitate to sell him but and this a huge but we absolutely have to have a replacement lined up.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 12, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
That's the only thing it suggests to you? Doesn't it also suggest to you that talkSport's claim is complete and utter absolute bull?

Actually Kicking Pigeons I meat if that is a true claim...then thats the only reason I can see as to why we would offer him to QPR
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 12, 2012, 11:30:32 AM
So a striker who scored 15 goals last season and isn't doing too badly this season has been deemed surplus to requirements because we have Roman Bednar and Marc Fortune who will obviously score more than 15 goals and we will even let him go to a team who are rivals in league position  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968-Tim on January 12, 2012, 11:33:18 AM
Also heard this on Talksport yesterday.

I reckon it's  a load of garbage unless we are nailed on to get someone else in but need the funds.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DJ EmmJee on January 12, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
This thread is brilliant!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 12, 2012, 11:42:38 AM
As officer barbrady would say: 'Okay people, move along, there is nothing to see here"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on January 12, 2012, 12:02:32 PM
Actually Kicking Pigeons I meat if that is a true claim...then thats the only reason I can see as to why we would offer him to QPR
Oh, OK fair enough. Sorry if I sounded rude, it was meant to come across as lighthearted.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 12, 2012, 12:11:00 PM
Oh, OK fair enough. Sorry if I sounded rude, it was meant to come across as lighthearted.

Apology Accepted  :-*
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DJ EmmJee on January 12, 2012, 12:12:27 PM
Dodgy rumous, it's just a sign of The Times.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 12, 2012, 12:13:38 PM
Damn I hope Odemwingie stays...he hasn't signed my sketch of him yet...  :-[  :-[  :-[
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 12, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
Prepare your fiery arrows...

This one has a ring of truth because of the wording. To say qpr have made an offer is easy and usual but to say that he has been offered by WBA is unusual and unlikely so I'm forced to think there may be truth in it. That said DA, RH and JP aren't stupid so if it is true a big name or very talented player must be close to signing and we need some readies.

Fire at will.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 12, 2012, 12:40:12 PM
Prepare your fiery arrows...

This one has a ring of truth because of the wording. To say qpr have made an offer is easy and usual but to say that he has been offered by WBA is unusual and unlikely so I'm forced to think there may be truth in it. That said DA, RH and JP aren't stupid so if it is true a big name or very talented player must be close to signing and we need some readies.

Fire at will.

The only possible way I can see it being true is if we sign a big name on a perm contract pretty soon then offload him. That said I don't think we would offload him to a rival league team fighting for survival like us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 12, 2012, 12:44:13 PM
Albion are going to sign a big name or very talented player? Thats even more unbelieve than odemwingie being offered to qpr  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 12, 2012, 12:49:13 PM
Shot down in flame!

Didn't see that coming!
 ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 13, 2012, 08:26:18 AM
Thats What I thought.... We must be close to signing someone surely??? Seeing that we OFFERED him to QPR   :o   :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: batesy123 on January 13, 2012, 03:17:47 PM
The only way I could see us offering him to QPR is if we have got someone more or less signed, and we desperately need the money from selling Pete. Selling to QPR could make sense actually, they'd pay over the odds for him. Interesting to see if theres anything in this and how/if it develops. 6 months ago I'd categorically say no, however, in my opinion, he is no longer the best striker at the club and could be used to create funds for a better player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 13, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
The only way I could see us offering him to QPR is if we have got someone more or less signed, and we desperately need the money from selling Pete. Selling to QPR could make sense actually, they'd pay over the odds for him. Interesting to see if theres anything in this and how/if it develops. 6 months ago I'd categorically say no, however, in my opinion, he is no longer the best striker at the club and could be used to create funds for a better player.

What have you been smoking mate? How could selling Odemwingie to QPR make any sense whatsoever from a footballing standpoint? If you think we are going to be able sell Pete and replace him with a proven talent in January, you are mistaken. That just won't happen. The best case scenario would then be having to take a punt on another unproven player or a player that has some sort of baggage. Why would we put ourself in that position when we already have a proven double figure striker. We need to strengthen the squad by adding quality to give us more options, not dismantle it by selling the player whose goals not only kept us up last year but left us comfortably in mid-table. If Fortune, and Bednar played 100 seasons in their peak, it is unlikely they would score 15 goals. They are the players that need to be replaced. Odemwingie is about as good a player as we can hope to have play for us for any length of time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: batesy123 on January 13, 2012, 03:41:03 PM
What have you been smoking mate? How could selling Odemwingie to QPR make any sense whatsoever from a footballing standpoint? If you think we are going to be able sell Pete and replace him with a proven talent in January, you are mistaken. That just won't happen. The best case scenario would then be having to take a punt on another unproven player or a player that has some sort of baggage. Why would we put ourself in that position when we already have a proven double figure striker. We need to strengthen the squad by adding quality to give us more options, not dismantle it by selling the player whose goals not only kept us up last year but left us comfortably in mid-table. If Fortune, and Bednar played 100 seasons in their peak, it is unlikely they would score 15 goals. They are the players that need to be replaced. Odemwingie is about as good a player as we can hope to have play for us for any length of time.
read my post again, I meant it in a "That's the only way its ever going to happen" context. And he isn't a proven premier league, he has one good season, a proven striker is someone like Bent (hurts to say that, i hate him), Rooney, Drogba, to an extent Torres, players who have proved that their good fortune was actually permanent premiership class. Granted, everyone has to start somewhere, but Pete is two and half seasons of 15+ goals per season from being a proven premiership striker. If we have someone lined up with 3/4 years of premiership experience under their belt, go for it. But in Long and Odemwingie I think we have two of the best "new boys" in the league.

And i completely agree about strengthening the squad, but we need the money from somewhere. I hope he doesn't leave, still has something to prove.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 13, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
Everyone knows that QPR have money to spend but they are being linked to lots of strikers at the moment. With Hughes  now installed, he will have his own links.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 17, 2012, 08:18:16 AM
More uniformed speculation or no smoke without fire?

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/01/17/2850348/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-peter-odemwingie-from-west-brom?

Having witnessed another poor performance from Odemwingie at the weekend some sort of a deal that resulted in us signing a replacement is starting to look attractive.






Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 17, 2012, 10:14:14 AM
More uniformed speculation or no smoke without fire?

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/01/17/2850348/fulham-in-talks-to-sign-peter-odemwingie-from-west-brom?

Having witnessed another poor performance from Odemwingie at the weekend some sort of a deal that resulted in us signing a replacement is starting to look attractive.

I don't think Odemwingie is entirely to blame he got bugger all support from midfield or Cox who didn't sdeem to know what he was supposed to be doing. It must be difficult for him to recieve the ball out wide and then try and hold it up until Cox or Thomas make a run for him by which time he's surrounded by defenders. I think he's trying hard but sometimes has to try and do the job of two players because the support isn't there.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 17, 2012, 11:12:29 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2087771/Fulham-West-Brom-striker-Peter-Odemwingie.html

Fulham have made a move for West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie amid doubts over the futures of Bobby Zamora and Andy Johnson.
The Cottagers have reportedly opened talks for the 30-year-old after cooling their interest in Marseille’s Andre-Pierre Gignac.
Fulham are willing to pay £3 million plus performance-related add-ons for the 30-year-old but West Brom value the player at the £5m mark.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968-Tim on January 17, 2012, 11:30:44 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2087771/Fulham-West-Brom-striker-Peter-Odemwingie.html

Fulham have made a move for West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie amid doubts over the futures of Bobby Zamora and Andy Johnson.
The Cottagers have reportedly opened talks for the 30-year-old after cooling their interest in Marseille’s Andre-Pierre Gignac.
Fulham are willing to pay £3 million plus performance-related add-ons for the 30-year-old but West Brom value the player at the £5m mark.

Iterestingly they value Zamora at the same value that we place on Pete - let's do a swap

Happy Days!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 17, 2012, 11:34:49 AM
Would be a shame to see Pete go, he is just having a bad run at the moment, £5mill sounds like a reasonable offer though if we can spend that on a premiership striker
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 17, 2012, 11:54:37 AM
PO for Zamora. Got to be on roughly same wages, both valued the same. Seems fair to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 17, 2012, 11:57:46 AM
Reading fulhams board. One of their fans wrote this.


Outrageously greedy, unpredictable and most of the time choosing the wrong option. Baring this in mind, he has only reached double figures, goal-wise, in 3 of the 15 season's in his career (including Nigerian, Belgium, French & Russian leagues - all pretty poor IMO).

Think that's bull IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Clarkus on January 17, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
i like zamora but man id be gutted if pete went. crazy game football
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 17, 2012, 12:06:59 PM
PO for Zamora. Got to be on roughly same wages, both valued the same. Seems fair to me.

I'm sure Zamora is on 45k a week at Fulham.  He'll probably want a rise when he moves as it may be his last big transfer.  I'd say theres absolutely no chance he'll be coming to us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 17, 2012, 12:21:39 PM
If the right money came infor Pete I'd say snap their hands off and get a replacement.
Somethings not right with PO so for the sake of our season we need fresher approach.
Either change personnel or tactics.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2012, 12:27:55 PM
Odemwingie is far more of a goal threat than Zamora ever will be. Talk about hitting double figures, Zamora has done it once in his career out of 8 premier league seasons.

People think this is far too much like Football Manager, if you really think we should sell our best flair player, when we have no obvious replacement and its highly unlikely we will, well thank God you have no say at the club. Odemwingie may have only scored 4 times this season, but 3 of those goals were in games we ended up winning by a one goal margin.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 17, 2012, 12:49:30 PM
I'm sure Zamora is on 45k a week at Fulham.  He'll probably want a rise when he moves as it may be his last big transfer.  I'd say theres absolutely no chance he'll be coming to us.

I thought we offered PO around a 50k per week wage?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 17, 2012, 01:12:16 PM
I very much doubt any of our players are on £50k I am guessing but £40k might be the ceiling for us at the moment. Wages are the issue with PO if we are looking at something more substantial than a short term dip in form we really do not want to be paying at least £1.5m a year for a player on the slide.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: richjonawba on January 17, 2012, 01:28:46 PM
Reading fulhams board. One of their fans wrote this.


Outrageously greedy, unpredictable and most of the time choosing the wrong option. Baring this in mind, he has only reached double figures, goal-wise, in 3 of the 15 season's in his career (including Nigerian, Belgium, French & Russian leagues - all pretty poor IMO).

Think that's bull IMO.

i think thats a fair assessment of him to be honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 17, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
i think thats a fair assessment of him to be honest.
Cash In i say. If they want to pay £4-£5m for him, lets get rid and ship out Bednar and Fortune. Give Maynard a go plus someone better at this level.

Kevin Davies would be a good foil for Shane wouldnt he, just for a season or 2 - Kevin Campbell like?? Id be pretty happy with that for the short term.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 17, 2012, 03:00:59 PM
If he goes who would we replace him with that's of same calibre? Any Johnson? Zamora? Jones? I'd like Zamora but can't see that coming off
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 17, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
You want to build around your better players not sell them.

He is being asked to play a different role this season that isn't helping him as he struggles to play with his back to goal in a deeper role which is what he has been doing, he has been blighted by injury and defenders have worked him out to a certain degree. It doesn't help when the team as a group look devoid of confidence especially when playing at home, he is greedy but most strikers are and he still manages to get a number of assists.

He is still one of our most important players and has already scored some vital goals for us this season and that is with him playing rubbish according to most on here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GAZZER on January 17, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
Absolute tosh, all untrue more press rubbish!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on January 17, 2012, 06:37:01 PM
You want to build around your better players not sell them.

He is being asked to play a different role this season that isn't helping him as he struggles to play with his back to goal in a deeper role which is what he has been doing, he has been blighted by injury and defenders have worked him out to a certain degree. It doesn't help when the team as a group look devoid of confidence especially when playing at home, he is greedy but most strikers are and he still manages to get a number of assists.

He is still one of our most important players and has already scored some vital goals for us this season and that is with him playing rubbish according to most on here.

I think this is one of the best posts about Odemwingie that I've seen in a while.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 17, 2012, 07:04:03 PM
I have no idea if the rumours, etc are true but i think this again comes back the managers plans and future.

I personally feel that Odemwingie isnt a Roy type player, he thrived end of last season but rightly or wrongly Roy has implemented his own style and Pete isnt the same player and does not have he same affect, for me i think we have a bloke who has shown he can score goals and can be a matchwinner and i would like us to keep him.

However, if Roy is here for the long haul i think he would prefer Long over Odemwingie as you know what you are getting with Long where Pete is unpredictable. If Roy is staying and he doesnt think Pete fits into his plans then he may as well sell him, i dont want that but if the manager dont see him in his plans thats the obvious thing.

The risk is if we do that, Roy then leaves in the summer the new manager may of loved Odemwingie and played a style to suit him, get the best out of him and we have let him go.

Roys future needs sorting asap!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 17, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
If he goes who would we replace him with that's of same calibre? Any Johnson? Zamora? Jones? I'd like Zamora but can't see that coming off

We wouldn't pay the wages of an adequate replacement BUT I cannot see him going anywhere and this seems a totally fruitless story.

If we sell our best players then we have little hope going forward.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 18, 2012, 05:48:35 AM
Unless there is something seriously wrong behind the scenes, I can't see Peace accepting anything under 7-8 million for him after the contract we've just signed him up to. He makes bad decisions sometimes but as others have said, he's also not being played in the role where he was so prolific last season. He's one of those players who can get a goal out of nothing on occasion, which is hard to find in any league. Peace will not be made a mug of on this one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hulsey74 on January 18, 2012, 10:07:05 AM
I think this is one of the best posts about Odemwingie that I've seen in a while.

100% agree, cannot believe the amount negativity towards a bloke that everyone was saying last season sign him for 4 years on what ever he wants. The guy is not being played to his strengths.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 18, 2012, 10:09:48 AM
Talk Sport have just announced that Roy said he is not for sale
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 18, 2012, 10:26:25 AM
Also said in Birmingham mail that we've received no offers for him except for a cheeky loan bid from an unnamed club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 18, 2012, 10:31:49 AM
Pete has to work a lot harder than last year. we are not playing to his strengths. He has to defend from the front. You can't defend off the front by playing off a defenders shoulder. Unfortunately whenever Pete has the ball he has the defensive line in front of him. So when he tries to play his game which is all about dribbling then shooting, he either gets tacked or blazes it over.

How many of his goals last season where one-on-ones - loads.

He needs to play off the shoulder. If he isnt going to be played like that then sell him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968-Tim on January 20, 2012, 09:36:41 AM
Fulham ready to offer West Brom £3 million, Damien Duff and Chris Baird in exchange for Peter Odemwingie
Martin Jol has identified the Nigeria international, who the Baggies value at £5m, as one of his prime targets in the January window as he looks to bolster his attacking line-up


Goal.com

Buy Maynard and that is a fairly good deal.
But I think Baird is a RB not LB?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kendover on January 20, 2012, 09:47:59 AM
Id take that
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 20, 2012, 09:50:16 AM
Duff would be valued at more than the rest of the deal not to mention his wages would blow us away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 20, 2012, 10:01:21 AM
Probably completely untrue but i would most definitely take that!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 20, 2012, 10:35:42 AM
Fulham ready to offer West Brom £3 million, Damien Duff and Chris Baird in exchange for Peter Odemwingie
Martin Jol has identified the Nigeria international, who the Baggies value at £5m, as one of his prime targets in the January window as he looks to bolster his attacking line-up


Goal.com

Buy Maynard and that is a fairly good deal.
But I think Baird is a RB not LB?

 :D If that was true I'd snap their hands off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 20, 2012, 10:36:17 AM
Id take it aswell then id get maynard for 3 million from bristol
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 20, 2012, 10:36:49 AM
Duff in the Gera role, that could work.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 20, 2012, 10:54:16 AM
I am another one that would take this if true
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on January 20, 2012, 11:23:17 AM
I am another one that would take this if true
me also i hope it is!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968-Tim on January 20, 2012, 11:51:11 AM
Id take it aswell then id get maynard for 3 million from bristol

I don't expect that he would command as much as £3m closer to £2m I think but a nice deal all around if it does happen much as I like Pete he is just not a consistant performer
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 20, 2012, 11:54:37 AM
Keep Odemwingie but try to sign Damien Duff if Fulham dont want him anymore.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 20, 2012, 01:02:03 PM
These Odemwingie/Fulham rumours dont go away do they? The Mail now picking up on this rumour. I am not saying that i think it be true, but i certainly think there is something going on with us, pete and fulham.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on January 20, 2012, 01:03:26 PM
I do believe Pete will go in January, I dont think we planned for him to still be here in all fairness even though we offered him the deal we did.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 20, 2012, 01:18:32 PM
I'm shocked at how many supporters seem to be ok with the prospect at losing out most successful and prolific striker of recent times. Even through a dip in form, he has scored some cracking goals and won us matches. If you think Nicky Maynard is going to be a better option than Odemwingie, you are delusional. I for one will be screwin' if we allow him to leave. I'd rather have to replace the manager than a 15 goal premiership striker with our financial clout.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 20, 2012, 01:20:11 PM
I don't think there is anything in the rumours at all to be honest. Baird as far as I know is a right back and we simply need to strengthen the opposite side and Duff is well and truly on the decline and would want big wages.

Odemwingie has already scored some vital goals and got some assists despite being described as rubbish so far this season. He's been found out after his first season as he always would be so defenders know how to handle him now and he has struggled with injury and hasn't had a settled strike partner yet, there is a lot more to come from Odemwingie if fully fit and confident. Would be difficult to replace a player of his quality when in form, we need to build around him not let him go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulumbuman on January 20, 2012, 01:25:14 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2089413/Fulham-want-sign-Peter-Odemwingie.html

Fulham are ready to offer £3million plus two players to West Brom for their striker Peter Odemwingie.
The two clubs are believed to have held talks about the possibility of Odemwingie making the journey south, and Fulham are prepared to offer Chris Baird and Damien Duff.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 20, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
I really dont think selling Odemwingie in January is the best thing to do.  With Shane Longs suspect back injury he could break down any minute.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 20, 2012, 01:35:27 PM
I want to keep him, look what happened when we sold our top scorer from the season before January 2006.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on January 20, 2012, 01:40:10 PM
It all depends if we have someone lined up to replace Pete. If we have and our management team have the faith in that new signing it might not be all that bad.

However if hes sold without a replacement I can see there being trouble ahead.

As ive said before I think Pete will be gone either way in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 20, 2012, 01:51:23 PM
It all depends if we have someone lined up to replace Pete. If we have and our management team have the faith in that new signing it might not be all that bad.

However if hes sold without a replacement I can see there being trouble ahead.

As ive said before I think Pete will be gone either way in January.

I agree.

But there are plenty of strikers that could replace Pete how he has been the past 6 months but we dont want that as we would be no better off, we want a replacement that will replace Pete of last season, that will be very hard and very very dear in January
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: djmark on January 20, 2012, 01:52:57 PM
I'm shocked at how many supporters seem to be ok with the prospect at losing out most successful and prolific striker of recent times. Even through a dip in form, he has scored some cracking goals and won us matches. If you think Nicky Maynard is going to be a better option than Odemwingie, you are delusional. I for one will be screwin' if we allow him to leave. I'd rather have to replace the manager than a 15 goal premiership striker with our financial clout.

Absolutely agree mate, glad you said it as i thought it was only one who thought it was completely bonkers!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 20, 2012, 01:55:46 PM
Can't honestly believe people are ok with losing pete. Big no from me!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on January 20, 2012, 01:56:16 PM
The problem is there are no guarentees he will find that form again with us. Its a truely difficult situation for the club as a whole.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_1 on January 20, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
hope this doesnt happen. be gutted if it did happen
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on January 20, 2012, 02:20:11 PM
when i am at the games i watch him his body language is all wrong i have said on here before imo he doesnt want to be here and if that is the case it is time for him to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 20, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
I would love Pete to stay and do well. 10 goals from him this season would be great. I just dont think he does second seasons!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 20, 2012, 02:35:03 PM
still think he is a match winner and if he goes there is only 1 striker i would have any faith in at the club!
secondly considering we are such low scorers i doubt it would be wise to get rid of our highest premier league goal scorer!

unless fulham want to give us bobby zamora we would be mad to go with this deal if its actually real
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 20, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
My only concern with loosing Pete you just know he will perform under a manger he sees eye to eye with
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 20, 2012, 03:34:39 PM
 :-[

theres no guarantee damien duff will be any good, if we had another replacement lined up what guarantees do they offer. We know Pete has goals in him he's said good things about us lot and i think we should back him he'll probably get 25 goals in the 2 seasons he's been here come the end of this season, if before we signed him we were told that we'd be saying itd be mad to sell him and it is. However, Roy needs to play him differently thats where the problem lies.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 20, 2012, 03:43:45 PM
Rubished by Roy on OS

http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2583433,00.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_1 on January 20, 2012, 03:47:03 PM
Rubished by Roy on OS

http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2583433,00.html
good  :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 20, 2012, 03:59:39 PM
Rubished by Roy on OS

http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2583433,00.html

could of told you that earlier :) not itk or anything, just knew it was bull
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: batesy123 on January 22, 2012, 12:40:55 PM
The only way I can see Pete going to Fulham is if Zamora comes the other way, Hodgson really rates him, and got the best out of him in his time there. A very good player, like MAF with pace and the ability to actually shoot from time to time. Not slating Fortune, but lets be honest, he's a slightly better Emile Heskey. Hope he doesn't leave to be honest, he has shown signs of improvement over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 22, 2012, 02:02:03 PM
Sky Sports News are saying he is now seriously on West Hams radar. Lets hope this is just more cockney propaganda - they usually do their business in the media after all.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 22, 2012, 02:12:08 PM
Why do West Ham get linked with so many decent players, even though they are in the Championship. I hate that club, the owners and their fans.

Give us 6 million, and they can have him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 22, 2012, 03:10:51 PM
Yeah like he'll go there. Championship football? Seriously the press need to make up better stories!!! Odemwingie to arsenal would be a good one. West ham? Never. Lazy pathetic journalism.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Rich99 on January 22, 2012, 03:19:16 PM
Yeah like he'll go there. Championship football? Seriously the press need to make up better stories!!! Odemwingie to arsenal would be a good one. West ham? Never. Lazy pathetic journalism.

I very much doubt it's true, but playing Championship football didn't stop the likes of Kevin Nolan moving there.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 22, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
I would let him go if we could get at least 4 million. Just not working for Pete this year. If if he does go i wont be losing much sleep every player that has left club for big money has gone  downhill

Curtis Davies, Robbo, Kuczack and so on .  I trust JP :P
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 22, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
I would give Pete till the end of the season, and then I would make a descion whether to sell or not.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 22, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
I would let him go if we could get at least 4 million. Just not working for Pete this year. If if he does go i wont be losing much sleep every player that has left club for big money has gone  downhill

Curtis Davies, Robbo, Kuczack and so on .  I trust JP :P

Why? So that we can bank a few more million and leave our squad short of our most prolific striker in years?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 22, 2012, 03:54:49 PM
I would give Pete till the end of the season, and then I would make a descion whether to sell or not.

The decision on when he leaves will be Petes.
Hes the wrong side of 30, not set the world alight this season and on reportedly £45k a week on a 3 year deal.
Now who's going to come in for him and give him a deal like that.
Like it or not we could be stuck with Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 22, 2012, 03:57:45 PM
Selling Pete is incoceivable. Why people say that they would be happy for him to go for x million I don't know. Who will we get to replace him? Or are you just happy to have money in the bank? Our squad is short on genuine premier league striking talent. They did well yesterday but could you imagine MAF and Cox getting enough goals to keep us up? With Pete sold and Long sitting out the season with a broken leg this is exactly what would happen. Sell Pete... you're 'avin' a laugh!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 22, 2012, 04:00:49 PM
He's just having a Torres moment. Check out last seasons review dvd to remember how good he was for us. The major reason for us staying up!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on January 22, 2012, 04:02:00 PM
what he has done this year i wouldnt be sulkiing if he went . let him go to fulham and we get clint dempsey .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on January 22, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
what he has done this year i wouldnt be sulkiing if he went . let him go to fulham and we get clint dempsey .

We would have more chance of getting Clint Eastwood i think!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Rich99 on January 22, 2012, 04:57:26 PM
what he has done this year i wouldnt be sulkiing if he went . let him go to fulham and we get clint dempsey .

Provided more goals and assists per minute played than any other player in the entire squad.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on January 22, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
well you could of fooled me on that one , and clint was a joke  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Rich99 on January 22, 2012, 05:06:33 PM
Why? So that we can bank a few more million and leave our squad short of our most prolific striker in years?

Our all time top scoring Premiership record goal scorer ever I do believe. ;)

I've been disappointed with Pete this season, but I also remember from past Premiership times how hard we found it to find the back of the net.  As it stands, he's still the only one in our squad who has done it with any regularity.

I'd certainly not like to see him go right now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on January 22, 2012, 06:11:13 PM
If he goes I think we will goto pot...

yes hes having a mare.. I bet reading some of the comments on here id be pretty annoyed about it though. was out standing last year...so was Mulumbu shall we flog him too...this year both have failed to reach last seasons heights but we know the old saying.

form is temporary
class is permanent
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BobTaylor on January 22, 2012, 06:28:22 PM
If he goes I think we will goto pot...

yes hes having a mare.. I bet reading some of the comments on here id be pretty annoyed about it though. was out standing last year...so was Mulumbu shall we flog him too...this year both have failed to reach last seasons heights but we know the old saying.

form is temporary
class is permanent

Couldnt agree more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mateinone on January 22, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
I couldn't see us selling him. He is still our best chance of knocking in 5-8 in the next 16 games
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tequila Rich on January 22, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
pete is a quality player, but unfortunately one who slips in and out of form at any given point...he's also a confidence player, and one that doesnt benefit from fan negativity or moaning and groaning at him.

ok he's got his bumper contract now and he's not playing well, but we need to get behind him, and show him support and faith when times are bad...not criticise him and want him out!

show him some love and he bangs in the goals!  for me he thrived off us with all the fans were bringing out banners welcoming him from moscow, and then later in the season when we had a new manager who showed some belief.

for me, it'd be suicide to sell him...he's a goal threat and has shown already this season can score a goal pretty much out of nothing!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wing wizard on January 22, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
I couldn't have summed it up much better myself....!!!! PO needs to play up top on his own.....I'm pretty confident he would hit double figures by end of season if he was given that chance...!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on January 23, 2012, 01:01:02 AM
Hes our talisman and is can produce sublimeness from nothing...

suicide to sell him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on January 23, 2012, 08:42:01 AM
If he goes I think we will goto pot...

yes hes having a mare.. I bet reading some of the comments on here id be pretty annoyed about it though. was out standing last year...so was Mulumbu shall we flog him too...this year both have failed to reach last seasons heights but we know the old saying.

form is temporary
class is permanent
how will we go to pot? he hasnt played half the season and when he as he as been rubbish and looks like he doesnt want to be here!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 23, 2012, 08:51:49 AM
Albion were a football team before Peter Odemwingie, they'll be a football team long after he's gone as well.
He's offered very little this season to be honest.
On his day he's unplayable, at other times he's a waste of skin.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on January 23, 2012, 09:41:17 AM
Talksports Moose say PO to West Ham for £8 milion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 23, 2012, 10:05:42 AM
West Brom put £8m price tag on Odemwingie

West Brom have slapped an £8million valuation on Peter Odemwingie amid interest from Fulham and West Ham.

Promotion hopefuls West Ham are the latest club to enquire about the Nigerian striker (above), who was an unused substitute in the weekend win at Stoke.

Odemwingie has slipped down the pecking order at the Hawthorns after failing to repeat his form from last season when he bagged 15 Premier League goals.

But the forward’s price tag means he is likely to remain at Albion until the summer at least.

Albion boss Roy Hodgson has insisted Odemwingie is not for sale after only penning a new £35,000-a-week contract in August.


http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/West-Brom-put-8m-price-tag-on-Peter-Odemwingie-interest-from-Fulham-and-West-Ham-article856603.html (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/West-Brom-put-8m-price-tag-on-Peter-Odemwingie-interest-from-Fulham-and-West-Ham-article856603.html)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on January 23, 2012, 10:22:44 AM
cant see the porn kings paying £8 mill plus 40k a week. perhaps they might try an exchange deal with carlton cole? cole to me is very similar to pete, unplayable on his day. what would people think of cole plus a couple of mill our way??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 23, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
Do West Ham have £8mil?  Would he step down into the Championship?

I'd say no on both counts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on January 23, 2012, 10:47:28 AM
Do West Ham have £8mil?  Would he step down into the Championship?

I'd say no on both counts.
never say never. it looks like they will come back up so it would only be for 4 months plus the bright lights of london! it might sway some.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 23, 2012, 10:47:49 AM
6 million and Cole i will drive him there myself or the 8 million either way
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Wbahunty on January 23, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
I would have took it at the start of the window but only a week left if he went for 8million we would only get Ridgewell in with the money and the rest would be saved to get rid of the 2million debt we have!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albiontilidie on January 23, 2012, 11:02:40 AM
8 million wow, thats is over priced to me, i would take it if we were to spend the 8 million and not bank it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: MarkW on January 23, 2012, 12:11:50 PM
Pete signed a four year contract in the summer, which was ridiculous, given that he's 30. With three years and a half years on his contract, we could easily ask for upward of £8 million, I reckon. No-one will pay that much for a striker who hasn't really been on form this season, especially because he is ageing. Let's hope he can find some form this half of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mulumbu99 on January 23, 2012, 12:40:17 PM
6 million and Cole i will drive him there myself or the 8 million either way

no thanks. odemwingie is x10 the player that donkey cole is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 23, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
no thanks. odemwingie is x10 the player that donkey cole is.

Ok i will take just the 8 million then ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 23, 2012, 12:56:49 PM
Talksports Moose say PO to West Ham for £8 milion

Funniest thing in months !    ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Savvas78 on January 23, 2012, 02:19:01 PM
Sometimes a Pete moment of genius is all that stands between us and 3 points. It'd be unwise to sell him for anything other than silly money. I still believe that the change to 442, and the resulting lack of support from midfield has stunted Pete's form and goals tally this season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ogwani on January 23, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
He's been in and out of the team and relatively off form and has still won us quite a few points. Killed the Wolves game, won us Blackburn and Norwich. Done around the same as Long who people are saying has had a great season.

I would take 6-8 million though...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 23, 2012, 03:21:28 PM
Sometimes a Pete moment of genius is all that stands between us and 3 points. It'd be unwise to sell him for anything other than silly money. I still believe that the change to 442, and the resulting lack of support from midfield has stunted Pete's form and goals tally this season.

Exactly this. Talk of selling him is just blather, typical of the rumour market.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jamesa2407 on January 23, 2012, 03:34:13 PM
To lose Pete would be very very stupid. I appreciate if a club was to offer lets say 6-7 Million for him then it would be quite irrasitable. But then you need to put that money straight into buying another striker. We have to remember Pete hardly had a pre season, He has had a few injury's this year, and he is playing with a lot less support than last year. Also him and long are yet to form a partnership. I really do like him as a player, and think he can score goals out of nothing, He has already got us for argument sake 7 points this season with assists and goals, maybe more points. We need to be careful with a player like Pete, the fans get on his back too much, I honestly feel he is the kind of player to just walk away. He's a premiership striker, we have been asking for, for years. Now we have two or three in long and fortune (after his fantastic performance against stoke). Really don't want him to be sold.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 23, 2012, 04:15:33 PM
I can't see any truth in the story as its 'We'll link ourselves with everyone like we did at Blues' the Gold/ Sullivan clan BUT if someone did offer us £7m-£8m for a player the wrong side of 30 then its something we would have to consider strongly. Thats where we are as a football club.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 23, 2012, 04:38:15 PM
Even if someone did offer that though there'd be no point unless there's an obvious available replacement. It'd be suicidal to go the rest of the season with really only Long as a premier league striker, and he's had various injury problems the past few months.

Then any replacement would likely cost well over the odds, just like Liverpool last year, got a too good to turn down deal with 50m, then ended up having to pay 35m for Carroll.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 23, 2012, 04:47:38 PM
I dont think it would happen because I doubt we'd sell but if we decided too it would make good business sense to sell him for £8mil and go and get Maynard for £2mil.

Very similar players IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 23, 2012, 04:54:38 PM
I don't believe it's true.

However an offer of £8million we really must consider, providing we're able to line up a replacement. If that was a loan to carry us to the end of the season, then so be it. We'd have to replace him as on his day he's probably our best forward thinking player and he's certainly capable of providing us with a goal. Even when he has off days, he still manages to produce something from nothing as he proved at Blackburn with a wonderful strike which won us the game.

I will however say his inconsistency though this season has been something which has annoyed me. Too many times this season I've questioned his attitude during matches and it's something I don't like to be doing. The difference between the Pete of last season and the Pete of this season effort wise is enormous and that has to improve if he's to change peoples opinions of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 24, 2012, 11:28:15 AM
Liverpool rumour now, what i mean by that some Liverpool writer reckons he would be ideal in their current striker situation and a good PR stunt reference Petes racial abuse he suffered in Russia
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on January 24, 2012, 11:54:10 AM
how will we go to pot? he hasnt played half the season and when he as he as been rubbish and looks like he doesnt want to be here!

Rubbish???Really?? he is our only proven striker at this level. he adds so much to this side with his pace, ability to go past players and experience

And as for the comment after this one about we will had a football club before there will be one after he has gone...who said anything about the club going to pot??I just think we will be seriously weakened and lose some more of the unpredictable play we take to teams with PO in the side...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 24, 2012, 12:11:47 PM
Rubbish???Really?? he is our only proven striker at this level. he adds so much to this side with his pace, ability to go past players and experience

And as for the comment after this one about we will had a football club before there will be one after he has gone...who said anything about the club going to pot??I just think we will be seriously weakened and lose some more of the unpredictable play we take to teams with PO in the side...

' we will go to pot' who is that then?
I never mentioned club I said team!
For what he's contributed on the pitch so far this season he wouldn't  be missed
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on January 24, 2012, 03:25:48 PM
Rubbish???Really?? he is our only proven striker at this level. he adds so much to this side with his pace, ability to go past players and experience

And as for the comment after this one about we will had a football club before there will be one after he has gone...who said anything about the club going to pot??I just think we will be seriously weakened and lose some more of the unpredictable play we take to teams with PO in the side...
again oppinions i dont like odemwingie you do your entitled to, cant really put my finger on it but there is something underlying as i have said on here before his body language isnt right and i honestly feel he doesnt want to be here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Johnny256WBAFC on January 26, 2012, 01:01:24 PM
Ozzy won't go knowere as he's already turned down newcastle and arsenal so why would he go.... Pete go back bald son thats how you play best.. :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: eaststandbaggie on January 26, 2012, 01:37:28 PM
Ozzy won't go knowere as he's already turned down newcastle and arsenal so why would he go.... Pete go back bald son thats how you play best.. :D


Why waste time on this post.Roy said he is worth £8,000,000 so unless somebody matches that he is playing for us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DJ EmmJee on January 26, 2012, 02:09:56 PM
I reckon we should sign this bloke. He had a successful season-long loan with us last season. We could do with him back.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on January 26, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
again oppinions i dont like odemwingie you do your entitled to, cant really put my finger on it but there is something underlying as i have said on here before his body language isnt right and i honestly feel he doesnt want to be here.

It's a shame you've formed those opinions because you're basically guessing about his mindset and then writing a player off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DJ EmmJee on January 26, 2012, 06:18:17 PM
It's a shame you've formed those opinions because you're basically guessing about his mindset and then writing a player off.

A pretty accurate guess if you ask me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 28, 2012, 02:40:15 AM

The Odemwingie rumour mill has re-surfaced in today's Sun. Stranger moves have happened in football - and big money talks.

You’ll need a Ful £6m for Peter

FULHAM will have to pay £6million to land West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie.
QPR are also keen on the Nigerian, 30, who scored 15 times last season.
Fulham have already seen an offer of £3m plus two players turned down by West Brom.
Baggies boss Roy Hodgson insists Odemwingie is not for sale but the club are likely to sell at £6m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 28, 2012, 07:41:54 AM
The more bids that are reported and the more strikers we are linked with makes me think that this really does have legs.
Wouldnt be surprised to see Pete off at 11.59pm on Monday
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1968a on January 28, 2012, 10:35:06 AM
When I first reported the story in 'The Times' that WBA had offered Odemwingie to QPR, many said it was a piece of lazy journalistic nonsense. Now it is clear that the story was true.

Odemwingie's demeanour shows he is unhappy and the coach has expressed his frustration with the player. He will be gone soon, before his value declines too far.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 28, 2012, 10:47:44 AM
I honestly don't see how this pure speculation based on the fact we would like another striker can suddenly mean that initial story of offering him to QPR was definitely true, you are just guessing like everyone else.

We rarely use Cox as a striker, until last week Fortune hadn't been used. Tchoyi hasn't been used for a good while so we only have Odemwingie and Long who has been struggling with injury. We simply need more options.

It wouldn't surprise me if he went in the summer but it would surprise me if he went anywhere before this window closes. We have let strikers go in January before and really suffered for it, we can't make that mistake again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 28, 2012, 10:48:57 AM
Hodgson has been speaking this morning about the fact that he would like to sign a new striker - apart from Hustzi, but is not too optimistic. If he is successful, however, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we cash in on Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on January 28, 2012, 11:20:42 AM
suicidel as someone else posted if it happens /how long did it take to recover when we let super kev walk out the door a couple of seasons back  ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 28, 2012, 12:11:37 PM
suicidel as someone else posted if it happens /how long did it take to recover when we let super kev walk out the door a couple of seasons back  ???

We just let him go and didn't replace him, hopefully we have a striker before Pete goes
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2012, 12:39:28 PM
If this does happen without a suitable replacement i wont be at all happy >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 28, 2012, 01:07:30 PM
It's not happening.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 28, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
He's going nowhere, I'll bet my mortgage on it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 28, 2012, 01:31:22 PM
Lazy journo's imo,id bet if Pete had played at Stoke we wouldnt be seeing this but as he was unused on the bench they put 2 and 2 together.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mb1 on January 29, 2012, 07:57:16 AM
Lazy journo's imo,id bet if Pete had played at Stoke we wouldnt be seeing this but as he was unused on the bench they put 2 and 2 together.

Didn't play yesterday either.  I hope that there is nothing in this, but I thought he'd have been a good option off the bench yesterday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lego on January 29, 2012, 08:44:59 AM
Didn't play yesterday either.  I hope that there is nothing in this, but I thought he'd have been a good option off the bench yesterday.

I agree seems very odd that he didnt get on the pitch yesterday. I don't think the club will sell this transfer window but I do have my doubts. If we get a replacement or not this would be a risky move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 29, 2012, 10:06:34 AM
The reality is Fortune deserved to keep his place after the game at Stoke and Long seems to be a little ahead of him in the pecking order especially after the impact he made when replacing Odemwingie in the game against Norwich in the league the other week. We had already had our hands forced with injuries to Jara and Thomas with the other two changes made, I think people are genuinely reading too much into rumours and recent team selections.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mb1 on January 29, 2012, 11:50:49 AM
The reality is Fortune deserved to keep his place after the game at Stoke and Long seems to be a little ahead of him in the pecking order especially after the impact he made when replacing Odemwingie in the game against Norwich in the league the other week. We had already had our hands forced with injuries to Jara and Thomas with the other two changes made, I think people are genuinely reading too much into rumours and recent team selections.

What about Cox starting ahead of him?  Albeit on the right of midfield he did eventually go up top (so I am told).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on January 29, 2012, 12:01:47 PM
Keeping him fresh for the next 2 games I would think. On his day PO is the best player we have. A genuine match winner. Lets not forget he had an off period over Xmas and around this time last year. Once he hit form again he carried us through the end of the season. He needs the fans to get behind him. Very much a confidence player who needs to feel the support of the fans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TLMS17 on January 29, 2012, 12:10:47 PM
Pete probably didn't play as I'm sure Roy said the other day he would rest players as we have 3 games in 7 days least now he will be fit Wed and will have no excuse as he didn't play last week nor yesterday
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 29, 2012, 02:39:48 PM
Couple of odd retweets from pete.

Paraphrasing here (slightly):

Don't bare a grudge, a grudge bares you.

He who would move the world must 1st move himself.

Read into this what you will.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on January 29, 2012, 02:50:46 PM
When he does move he will blame everyone but himself just like hes done at his previous three clubs
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tequila Rich on January 29, 2012, 06:11:10 PM
he's going to go isnt he.

im not happy with this at all...

when managed well and in form he's by miles our best player and a constant threat and a genuine match winner!

i just hope we get a good profit from this and re-invest it straight away!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on January 29, 2012, 06:19:43 PM
Think we are all aware of whats going to happen here he'll go Tuesday evening with no replacement.
Fortunes recent good form will be given as the reason as why we haven't replaced PO and the money will disappear into running costs.
Been here before i think getting very upset at the lack of ambition shown by our chairman.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 29, 2012, 06:25:12 PM
I haven't thought for a second he will leave. Can't see it myself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mb1 on January 29, 2012, 06:27:12 PM
Think we are all aware of whats going to happen here he'll go Tuesday evening with no replacement.
Fortunes recent good form will be given as the reason as why we haven't replaced PO and the money will disappear into running costs.
Been here before i think getting very upset at the lack of ambition shown by our chairman.

I will go crazy if this happens....  :( >:( :'(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 29, 2012, 06:35:39 PM
Everyone getting worked up. He ain't going anywhere. Club won't allow it. Simple.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 29, 2012, 06:41:18 PM
Dont think he will go.

If the rumours are right though and he goes Fulham, we could well be seeing him Wednesday night, imagine that  ;D  :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie steve on January 29, 2012, 07:18:30 PM
Everyone getting worked up. He ain't going anywhere. Club won't allow it. Simple.

If the club is offered £6m I bet he will go !!  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 29, 2012, 08:19:23 PM
Apparently it's been on Sky sports that he's off to Fulham . Anybody seen that report?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggyman68 on January 29, 2012, 08:57:58 PM
I think 6 million is Peace's magic no. ......he won't be able to resist!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: reiss on January 29, 2012, 09:00:27 PM
I think 6 million is Peace's magic no. ......he won't be able to resist!

 i would only let him go iff, we was offered a good amount and if we bought someone as good t replace him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 29, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
The club won't sell him without a replacement. I know people will mention Earnshaw and Horsfield, but a) you'd think we'd learn from that and b) neither of them were anything like first team as much as Odemwingie is when they were sold. Nor did either of them have anything like the quality.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 29, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Can we as a club justify keeping him when most are calling for a 451 and clearly Roy appears to want to put Long before him , fortune is good back up and pete is sat on the bench at +35k a week ??

If he went , we got 6m+ and signed ridgewell and a good winger I would see it as good business.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: CL3MO on January 29, 2012, 10:36:42 PM
Can we as a club justify keeping him when most are calling for a 451 and clearly Roy appears to want to put Long before him , fortune is good back up and pete is sat on the bench at +35k a week ??

If he went , we got 6m+ and signed ridgewell and a good winger I would see it as good business.

No chance! What if Long got a really serious injury!?!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 29, 2012, 10:50:18 PM
Can we as a club justify keeping him when most are calling for a 451 and clearly Roy appears to want to put Long before him , fortune is good back up and pete is sat on the bench at +35k a week ??

If he went , we got 6m+ and signed ridgewell and a good winger I would see it as good business.

I think it is a possibility for the reasons you state.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 29, 2012, 10:59:52 PM
We are all asking will he or won't he , but has he become our Teves and causing disharmony amongst the squad. Something has happened but what ? ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on January 29, 2012, 11:03:22 PM
Thats my worry is that his problems are causing others within the club.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_1 on January 29, 2012, 11:09:49 PM
Going off Twitter he seems to get on with the players on there.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 29, 2012, 11:15:15 PM
Thats my worry is that his problems are causing others within the club.
I dont think he is a bad egg,its easy to put 2 and 2 together mate.Im yet to see a player happy to be left on the bench.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 29, 2012, 11:18:36 PM
since when has he caused problems?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 29, 2012, 11:45:50 PM
I would be surprised if he did go, but if he did i would think we either have somebody lined up or the club will say he asked to go, i think they know the fans will kick off if we just sell him.

I think both the club and he could of done more this season but i dont think he is a Roy type player, he is unpredicatable, we as fans like him because he can win a game on his own.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 30, 2012, 12:27:00 AM
I asked fourth official on twitter (who is rated highly by some) if pete to fulham was likely and he said that he doubted it. Again take from that what you want.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 30, 2012, 12:43:23 AM
Andy Johnson is out of contract in the summer and so Fulham are bound to be interested in him as a makeweight. I'd very happily take him plus £5m for Pete at this moment in time.

But there is no way I would let Pete go without signing a proven Premiership goalscorer. Johnson fits the bill, Roy is a big fan, and with Fortune playing well at the moment we'd be fine up front.

The £5m should enable us to buy Ridgwell and get a couple of decent wide players on loan (if we can find any!).  If Ridgwell isn't possible then Chris Baird at Fulham. 

Wouldn't mind young Raymond from Birmingham but I somehow can't see that happening !   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 30, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
Well that's blown Pete's rumours to Fulham out of the water they are going to sign  the Russian we were interested in well that's Fulham for you
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 31, 2012, 12:08:14 AM
So does that mean they will be even keener to let Johnson go tomorrow ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 31, 2012, 12:11:34 AM
So does that mean they will be even keener to let Johnson go tomorrow ?

I would say yes, particularly as it is being reported in Germany that 27-year-old Borussia Dortmund striker Lucas Barrios also looks set to move to Fulham in a deal believed to be worth around £8.35m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 31, 2012, 01:08:43 AM
Johnson I think we should go get him! I would be absolutely gutted if Pete left. just having a poor season but who's to say he cant improve. I think back to last season and how great he was with us fans and I definitely don't want him to leave
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jamesa2407 on January 31, 2012, 12:36:25 PM
Pete won't leave, As long as the fans don't get on his back. He loves the club and has openly admitted that. everyone has a bad run of games/season. Things don't drop for you its a professional sport. Some fan's have very short memory's. Can't stand it when people are trying to push one of our best players out of the squad.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mulumbu99 on January 31, 2012, 12:37:31 PM
fulham in for odemwingie. ssn....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 31, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
FFS lol i thought the reporter said were after Zamora  :'(

Odemwingie to Fulham

I would want 2 million plus Duff and Andy Johnson or i would enquire about zamora
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Joust on January 31, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
Silly deadline day nonsense as per usual
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jamesa2407 on January 31, 2012, 12:49:11 PM
Lol, Why do some fan's want to get rid of pete so quickly? It's been half a season.... Give the guy a Break. SHORT MEMORYS
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JDWest_Brom on January 31, 2012, 12:51:46 PM
I would be gutted if we let him go without a quality replacement lined up. I really hope we hang on to him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2012, 12:57:13 PM
I would be gutted if we let him go without a quality replacement lined up. I really hope we hang on to him.

I we were to let him go without suitable replacement there would be up roar
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 31, 2012, 01:05:06 PM
Thats my worry is that his problems are causing others within the club.

And what do you base this unsubstantiated nonsense on?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 31, 2012, 01:06:41 PM
If we were to let him go without suitable replacement there would be up roar
Teflon Jeremy got away with selling Earnshaw at the end of January 2006 without replacing him and we went down scoring just 31 goals that season. Not that I'm comparing Earnshaw to Odemwingie skill-wise, just pointing out that we do have previous for selling players during the Jan window without replacing them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on January 31, 2012, 01:12:39 PM
Teflon Jeremy got away with selling Earnshaw at the end of January 2006 without replacing him and we went down scoring just 31 goals that season. Not that I'm comparing Earnshaw to Odemwingie skill-wise, just pointing out that we do have previous for selling players during the Jan window without replacing them.

The Horse also went on the same day if I am correct.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 31, 2012, 01:15:08 PM
Teflon Jeremy got away with selling Earnshaw at the end of January 2006 without replacing him and we went down scoring just 31 goals that season. Not that I'm comparing Earnshaw to Odemwingie skill-wise, just pointing out that we do have previous for selling players during the Jan window without replacing them.

You mean Robson who when told about the offer said "Just get him out of the club" and persisted with a lame Kevin Capmpell while Kanu sat on the bench?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2012, 01:19:07 PM
Teflon Jeremy got away with selling Earnshaw at the end of January 2006 without replacing him and we went down scoring just 31 goals that season. Not that I'm comparing Earnshaw to Odemwingie skill-wise, just pointing out that we do have previous for selling players during the Jan window without replacing them.


I honestly don't think he would get away with it again without him being made to feel uncomfortable
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2012, 01:46:05 PM

I honestly don't think he would get away with it again without him being made to feel uncomfortable

I honestly don't think he cares what people think of him and  neither should he I guess.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Watton...! on January 31, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
Hodgson has laughed off media reports linking po with a move to fulham according to official twitter
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 31, 2012, 01:50:38 PM
Good news then  ;D

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on January 31, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
but if what baggie79 has said is true, which i have no doubt it is, about us enquiring about AJ, would that be with PO going other way? I hope not.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mulumbu99 on January 31, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
going nowhere according to roy. thank god for that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andio on January 31, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
going nowhere according to roy. thank god for that.

Yeah he is on Sky Sports News now saying so.

Said he isn't for sale & nobody has shown an interest either! Lazy journalism.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 31, 2012, 06:19:46 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2093883/Transfer-deadline-day-live.html#ixzz1l3dsrchV

Check 5.12pm
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2012, 06:28:25 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2093883/Transfer-deadline-day-live.html#ixzz1l3dsrchV

Check 5.12pm

Seems to me the player is prepared to go and possibly wants to go. Maybe i'm reading it wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 31, 2012, 06:31:05 PM
Providing he is replaced I honestly wouldn't be fussed.

Far too tempremental for my liking.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 31, 2012, 06:32:39 PM
He won't go. Not with Long's injury problems.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 31, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Seems to me the player is prepared to go and possibly wants to go. Maybe i'm reading it wrong.

I took it to mean that he wanted some clarity as to whether there had been a bid and the club have said that he won't be going anywhere even if there was a bid ...which apparantly there hasn't been.

I just think it's lazy sky journalism.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 31, 2012, 06:59:46 PM
Just hedging his bets, he's a pro footballer, he might well really quite like it here, but I quite liked my first wife, at the time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Rich99 on January 31, 2012, 07:00:38 PM
"It's true that Fulham are an option - and not just Fulham. To clarify the situation I turned to the club management. They told me that they don't want to sell me. Anyway, everything will be resolved soon."'

It's hardly, 'I'm going nowhere' is it?  We shall see.  I can't see us letting him go though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 31, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
if we let him go id like to see rodellega replace him, he just needs a fresh start
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 31, 2012, 07:05:13 PM
Odemwingie told Sovetskiy Sport. never trust these translations.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: reiss on January 31, 2012, 07:06:18 PM
if we let him go id like to see rodellega replace him, he just needs a fresh start

cant see that happening
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 01, 2012, 08:58:26 AM
"It's true that Fulham are an option - and not just Fulham. To clarify the situation I turned to the club management. They told me that they don't want to sell me. Anyway, everything will be resolved soon."'

It's hardly, 'I'm going nowhere' is it?  We shall see.  I can't see us letting him go though.

Some of his comments even allowing for the loose translation, seems to suggest that he's rapidly burning bridges with club and fans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on February 01, 2012, 11:02:41 AM
Love what Pete has done for us and would never forget that , however everyone has a "shelf life " at clubs and if we can get 6m for him in the summer we would be foolish to turn down .
lets not forget we were really lucky to get him when we did but in the summer hopefully we need to fund the foster transfer and we will need 2-3 new faces ..
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: eaststandbaggie on February 01, 2012, 01:02:19 PM
He was never going anywhere just bull pooh journalism to make headlines.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 01, 2012, 01:41:56 PM
He was never going anywhere just bull pooh journalism to make headlines.

He may not have been going anywhere in the latest window, according to the Club. But he appears to be angling for a move away asap.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: MarkW on February 01, 2012, 05:27:33 PM
I keep saying it, he's on big wages on a four, now three and half year deal, so we don't need to sell, and if we do, it will be for way above what he's worth :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 01, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
I keep saying it, he's on big wages on a four, now three and half year deal, so we don't need to sell, and if we do, it will be for way above what he's worth :)

IMO the sooner we cash in on him the better, his effort and body language says it all for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggiedean on February 04, 2012, 09:05:23 PM
Problem is Long seems to be turning in to a "sick note"! We have noting in reserve & that showed today. An additional forward should have been signed during the window to support. I just hope we can get Long back fit & " Pete" hits form. On they're day two of the best front two in the bottom half in the prem, but we have not seen it enough!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 04, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
Problem is Long seems to be turning in to a "sick note"! We have noting in reserve & that showed today. An additional forward should have been signed during the window to support. I just hope we can get Long back fit & " Pete" hits form. On they're day two of the best front two in the bottom half in the prem, but we have not seen it enough!

A sicknote who possibly has a broken bone in his back apparently so maybe not exactly skiving. He's already made himself available when not fully fit and has played when not fully fit so bit harsh to label him a sicknote.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: MulumbuPower! on February 06, 2012, 12:35:44 AM
No way can you label Long a sick note! He play with a back problem and still gives 100%.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 06, 2012, 10:35:31 AM
I know Petes a professional but does anyone lay some of the blame with Hodgson
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 06, 2012, 11:34:03 AM
I know Petes a professional but does anyone lay some of the blame with Hodgson

I've got no time for Odemwingie he's paid to do a job of work and he seems reluctant to try and play the way the hes asked to, or maybe he cant I'm not sure. For the money he's paid he ought to be at least making a fist of it but he doesn't appear to be.

Now in his defence I watched the seasons review from last season when all the players played with a smile on their face and a swagger in their step.
A short interview with Pete he says, 'West Brom play the way I like to play my football it is very good,'
that makes me think these players are playing to instructions that they either don't like or don't trust.
How many times did you see Pete on Saturday waving to the midfield and support the attack?

As I've said I don't like Pete's attitude but the guy has a point
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 06, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
I've got no time for Odemwingie he's paid to do a job of work and he seems reluctant to try and play the way the hes asked to, or maybe he cant I'm not sure. For the money he's paid he ought to be at least making a fist of it but he doesn't appear to be.

Now in his defence I watched the seasons review from last season when all the players played with a smile on their face and a swagger in their step.
A short interview with Pete he says, 'West Brom play the way I like to play my football it is very good,'
that makes me think these players are playing to instructions that they either don't like or don't trust.
How many times did you see Pete on Saturday waving to the midfield and support the attack?

As I've said I don't like Pete's attitude but the guy has a point

Agreed but the majority of the 40k a week or whatever we pay him is for sticking the ball in the back of the net something he isn't doing this season. Against Everton and Swansea at home he's missed absolute sitters that would've earnt us a point in both games.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on February 06, 2012, 04:44:32 PM
Pete is getting on average 1 chance per game.

Last season that was more like 3 or 4.

He should be played off the last man or sold. He isn't the right type of striker to be chasing balls down and coming deep.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on February 06, 2012, 07:08:17 PM
Problem is Long seems to be turning in to a "sick note"!

That is crazy harsh. The lad is fairly tough from what i've seen of him. How sporty would you be with a broken spine?

Pete will score a brace at some point of the season and then he'll believe in himself. Pete's mind is fragile, but he's a good player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 10, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
That is crazy harsh. The lad is fairly tough from what i've seen of him. How sporty would you be with a broken spine?

Pete will score a brace at some point of the season and then he'll believe in himself. Pete's mind is fragile, but he's a good player.

Long runs with "locked" hips, ie they do not move back and forth with the leg properly. Watch him run, his legs move up and down like drumsticks but there is very little movement in the hips. This means he will have his fair share of groin and back injuries.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 15, 2012, 10:32:12 PM
That is crazy harsh. The lad is fairly tough from what i've seen of him. How sporty would you be with a broken spine?

Pete will score a brace at some point of the season and then he'll believe in himself. Pete's mind is fragile, but he's a good player.


This is an insane post, Long has an excellent injury record untill he got assaulted by the Villa thug.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on March 07, 2012, 09:01:44 AM
This AGAIN?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4176825/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-targets-West-Brom-striker-Peter-Odemwingie.html

ARSENE WENGER is lining up a second move for West Brom's Peter Odemwingie.

Arsenal boss Wenger was put off by Brom's £8million asking price last summer as the Nigerian hitman is 30.

But Odemwingie has netted 10 goals this season and Gunners are desperate to beef up their scoring options.

Cologne's Lukas Podolski is another summer target.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on March 07, 2012, 09:17:55 AM
This AGAIN?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4176825/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-targets-West-Brom-striker-Peter-Odemwingie.html

ARSENE WENGER is lining up a second move for West Brom's Peter Odemwingie.

Arsenal boss Wenger was put off by Brom's £8million asking price last summer as the Nigerian hitman is 30.

But Odemwingie has netted 10 goals this season and Gunners are desperate to beef up their scoring options.

Cologne's Lukas Podolski is another summer target.


Come on the 'Brom'.... Kin cockney rag  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 07, 2012, 09:20:21 AM
This AGAIN?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4176825/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-targets-West-Brom-striker-Peter-Odemwingie.html

ARSENE WENGER is lining up a second move for West Brom's Peter Odemwingie.

Arsenal boss Wenger was put off by Brom's £8million asking price last summer as the Nigerian hitman is 30.

But Odemwingie has netted 10 goals this season and Gunners are desperate to beef up their scoring options.

Cologne's Lukas Podolski is another summer target.


Exactly why I don't read The Sun...lazy journalism. Arsenal go out of Europe and have looked out of sorts all season up front (apart from RVP) so they will be "linked" with any striker who has scored a few this season. Before the Wolves game would this story have appeared? I very much doubt it. I'd be amazed if there was any truth in it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on March 07, 2012, 12:56:34 PM

This is an insane post, Long has an excellent injury record untill he got assaulted by the Villa thug.

I'm confused, you've quoted me but you're agreeing with me?

Did you mean to quote the one calling him a sicknote?

Oh and for once i;m happy to see i was actually right about Pete (see above)

The price anyone would have to pay to get the 10-15 goal a season striker from us is too high. He's 30 and won't have a sell of value and we'd want £8mill minimum. I can't see anyone spending that.

That being said i wouldn't begrudge Pete a move with a chance of winning something.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on March 07, 2012, 01:34:32 PM
Pete was worth about 7m last summer, about 2m at Xmas - back up to 7m now!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on March 07, 2012, 01:43:11 PM
Pete was worth about 7m last summer, about 2m at Xmas - back up to 7m now!!

Pete was always worth more than £2million. Some fans are just very kneejerk.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on March 07, 2012, 09:06:38 PM
Hugely funny story  :D


A story fabricated by a Nigerian Blogger........ appears again


laughable


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on March 10, 2012, 09:02:30 AM
Why do people believe this nonsense? Every African loves Arsenal and every Nigerian would want him to play for Arsenal. Unfortunately for them, he's over thirty, under contract to us and nowhere near Arsene Wenger's wish list. Let The Mail publish their anti-West Brom rubbish (how long before they reel out their standard "Roy frustrated by transfer policy?" story - despite us signing all of his targets). Someone at that paper has a serious chip on their shoulder about us.

When I see him holding a red & white scarf for the press I'll believe it until then don't stress.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 11, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2012/03/11/Baggies-open-door-for-Gunners-swoop/gnid-134161/

Personally i think it's a stupid move, if Wingie has a bad spell, he'll lose confidence, the crowd gets on his back and he'll be dropped. It'll be like going back to Spartak Moscow. He'll be the new Kuszczak
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Rich99 on March 11, 2012, 08:58:04 PM
Roy Hodgson talked West Brom’s star striker Peter Odemwingie out of chasing a double-your-money move to China in January.

The Nigeria star, who has scored five goals in Albion’s last three games, also had approaches from clubs in the Middle East.

But boss Hodgson sat down with the 30-year-old to convince him he would be better off chasing goals in the Premier League than tax-free riches.

And he believes that if Odemwingie keeps scoring, he will earn a big-money move anyway – but to a top Champions League club.

That could put him in the shop window and Hodgson admitted: “I don’t know what the club would do if an offer from a top club came in.

“I look at things on a ­realistic basis. If you are not one of the top four teams paying the sort of salaries they do, when they come in for your players and want to sign them for big money, then the players go.

“If that happened I would be delighted to say, ‘Peter, you have been fantastic for us and shown what a great player you are, and we can’t compete with this’.”


http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/West-Brom-Roy-Hodgson-talked-Peter-Odemwingie-out-of-chasing-tax-free-riches-in-China-and-Middle-East-article876482.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on March 11, 2012, 09:11:38 PM
FFS Wenger isn't going to sign Odemwingie, not in a month of Sundays, the press needs to stop flogging that dead horse.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on March 11, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
He isn't good enough for Arsenal, plus they've practically signed Podolski now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Reddiebaggie on March 12, 2012, 04:30:50 PM
Owing to the contract recently signed by PO if he leaves us it will be because the club is ok with that scenario and want the money for whatever reason, so if Peter does leave to a bigger club don't blame him look to the boarbroom. If he does go to Arsenal he would be a bit part player, I would wish him the best of luck and hope he won't score against us in the future.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie_Cheese on March 12, 2012, 07:24:47 PM
No-one giving Roy credit for very clever man management here...More or less guarantees him staying at The Hawthorns.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on May 25, 2012, 12:26:19 AM
PETER ODEMWINGIE wants to move from West Brom — to a bigger club.

The striker said: “It is time for me to struggle for silverware not just for survival in the Premier League.”

The Russia-born Nigerian, 30, scored 11 goals for the Baggies last season.

He added: “I hope I will leave West Brom keeping warm relations with everybody.

“I would consider any proposals — even from Russia. But my aim is to stay in England.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4336951/Peter-Odemwingie-wants-to-quit-Baggies-for-a-bigger-club.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 25, 2012, 12:28:57 AM
Scary to think Odemwingie, Mulumbu, Ollson and Foster might not be here next season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on May 25, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
is "The Sun" a reliable source?

and in truth who, of the Clubs that will be in the mix for trophies, would actually want to pay what we would sell him for?

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on May 25, 2012, 12:46:10 AM
is "The Sun" a reliable source?

and in truth who, of the Clubs that will be in the mix for trophies, would actually want to pay what we would sell him for?

I don't think they can just make up quotes, unless they are old ones of course.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 25, 2012, 12:52:05 AM
PETER ODEMWINGIE wants to move from West Brom — to a bigger club.

The striker said: “It is time for me to struggle for silverware not just for survival in the Premier League.”

The Russia-born Nigerian, 30, scored 11 goals for the Baggies last season.

He added: “I hope I will leave West Brom keeping warm relations with everybody.

“I would consider any proposals — even from Russia. But my aim is to stay in England.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4336951/Peter-Odemwingie-wants-to-quit-Baggies-for-a-bigger-club.html
If it's true then he's seriously deluded. Let's look at the English clubs who have a chance of winning the league/ones in a European competition and if they would ever want him:

Chelsea - no chance
Arsenal - no chance
Tottenham - no chance
Man Utd - no chance
Man City - no chance
Newcastle - no chance
Everton - unlikely

If he wants to win silverware then Russia is the best he'll be able to do because none of the above teams will go for him and I the only teams from other top leagues (Italy, Spain, Germany) who'll want him are West Bromwich Albion equivalents (mid-table). He obviously has a lot of confidence, but he's going to be very disappointed I think. Also somebody should define to him 'struggling for survival in the Premier League', I'll think he'll find 11th and 10th place finishes isn't struggling too much.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on May 25, 2012, 12:53:33 AM
Hopefully they're just repeating something from that completely unreliable blogger in Nigeria who stirred up trouble before. One would expect to hear from Pete himself via social media soon if it's all bogus.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Boinggg on May 25, 2012, 01:09:08 AM
may have some validity as his quotes at the bottom of this piece from the mirror the other day seem simular.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/new-england-boss-roy-hodgson-844167

“I’m grateful to West Brom for giving me that chance and making everything happen for me.

“But I’ve got to be ambitious. I’m 30 now, these are the final three years when I’m going to be on top of my game.

“I came to England looking for a way to get to the top four or five teams. I believe I can play at the highest level, and I’ll miss Roy.”
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Boinggg on May 25, 2012, 01:12:04 AM
reading such quotes making me start to feel uneasy about the upcoming season now.

seems in a matter of weeks we've potentially lost hodgson, foster, olsson and odemwingie
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on May 25, 2012, 01:14:34 AM
Hopefully they're just repeating something from that completely unreliable blogger in Nigeria who stirred up trouble before. One would expect to hear from Pete himself via social media soon if it's all bogus.

I think the struggling for silverware quote he has said but in the context of what he hopes WBA achieves. So it does have the ring of the Nigerian blogger making up stories again which have found their way into my least favorite newspaper.

As an aside all talk of silverware and ambition is a smoke screen he knows that out there somewhere there is club willing to pay between £0.5m and £1m a year more for his services than his current employers everything else is just PR to make it sound a little bit more noble.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Boinggg on May 25, 2012, 01:27:21 AM
From Ifeanyi Abanum ?@ifeanyiabanu on twitter:

Osaze Odemwingie has hinted to Russian Media he could depart the Baggies in the summer market

Odemwingie's first choice is to remain the English Premiership, but is not ruling out a return to Russia.

'I have discussed my decision with the mgt of West Brom.They know that I honestly struggled for two seasons for the team,'' says Odemwingie

''I hope for understanding from the club. I think we agree - and I leave the club, maintaining good relations with all,'' said Odemwingie

Odemwingie adds:''You ask whether I would be considering proposals from Russia? And why not? I repeat, the Ist option for me is the EPL.''


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 25, 2012, 01:37:21 AM
From Ifeanyi Abanum ?@ifeanyiabanu on twitter:

Osaze Odemwingie has hinted to Russian Media he could depart the Baggies in the summer market

Odemwingie's first choice is to remain the English Premiership, but is not ruling out a return to Russia.

'I have discussed my decision with the mgt of West Brom.They know that I honestly struggled for two seasons for the team,'' says Odemwingie

''I hope for understanding from the club. I think we agree - and I leave the club, maintaining good relations with all,'' said Odemwingie

Odemwingie adds:''You ask whether I would be considering proposals from Russia? And why not? I repeat, the Ist option for me is the EPL.''


He's scored 25 in two seasons, so in some respects he's ok by me. But the lad seriously needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

If someone offers £6mill+ then the temptation is to say yeah, go on then. But we need his 10 goals a season. Long has proven this year that scoring isn't that easy in the Prem.

I really hope we don't let it all slide this summer!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on May 25, 2012, 02:14:04 AM
This looks like the source, a Russian blogger: http://www.bobsoccer.ru/user/324/blog/?item=74118 (http://www.bobsoccer.ru/user/324/blog/?item=74118)

Google Translate mangles it well enough, but here it is:


Peter Odemwingie: "I want to fight for the title, but not for survival"

In an interview with our portal striker "West Brom" confirmed that the club wants to change to a more powerful and will consider any proposals, including from Russia.

- Have you discussed your decision with the guidance of "West Brom"?

- Yes, we talked. They know that I honestly struggled for two seasons on the field for the team, not sparing the strength and health. But now the time has come when I want to fight for the title, but not for survival. Even though my contract with "West Brom" is designed for two more years, I hope for understanding on the part of leadership. I think we agree, and I leave the club, maintaining good relations with all.

- Which option will be a priority for you? I mean, first of all, the country.

- If possible, try to stay in England. I am happy with everything here. By the way, on Saturday in London, I have a wedding. Then he will leave, they also begin with the agent to discuss options for continuing career. Some already have a blueprint, but would now like to hammer it down.

- Proposals will be considered out of Russia?

- Why not? Although, I repeat, in the first place for me is the English Premier League.

- What are the clubs fit you in style and ambition?

- I would like to make my next team to play attacking football. How, for example, Madrid "Real".

- How to evaluate a victory in England, "Chelsea" in the Champions League?

- Football, which they showed in the semifinal and final, can not be called beautiful. But, apparently, Roberto Di Matteo has decided that a different result can not be achieved. In Munich, "Chelsea" heroically defended by the entire team, including Didier Drogba, and deserved to win. I can only take my hat off to the players and congratulate Di Matteo with a fantastic start coaching career.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on May 25, 2012, 06:49:29 AM
I wouldn't be held to ransom again like last season, if a decent offer comes in thanks Pete, see ya.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 25, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Toodle pip
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on May 25, 2012, 08:00:33 AM
Does he actually think he could play for a big club like Madrid ? I would sell him of we could get 4 million plus, he's getting older thus being when he gets injured he's out for even longer.I think we need something different upfront now because Odemwingie got found out a bit last season. When he got 10 goals I thought he would of pushed on but it seemed to have returned to his low confident self.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on May 25, 2012, 08:27:46 AM
The real problem would be replacing him as we wouldn't pay the wages of a 12-15 goals a season established striker and would go back to gamble signings - gambles that rarely pay off at this level.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on May 25, 2012, 08:51:12 AM
The real problem would be replacing him as we wouldn't pay the wages of a 12-15 goals a season established striker and would go back to gamble signings - gambles that rarely pay off at this level.
Andy Johnson = similair player, no fee, half the wages!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on May 25, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
Another summer of Press speculation,have they got bored of the Grant Holt saga?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on May 25, 2012, 09:00:43 AM
Just hope an early decision is made one way or another. Don't want this dragging on all over the summer again.

Think Pete seems to forget that any transfer would be dependant on someone actually coming in for him....

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2012, 09:20:22 AM
We will have the same speculation every summer with Odemwingie if he remains at the club. I don't want to see him leave as he will be extremely difficult to replace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 25, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
Well he cant hold us to ransom as he's got 2 years left on current deal and won't get improved terms again. Like Olsson he's a big asset to us but I wouldn't hold onto players who want to leave. As mentioned if someone comes in with £4-5m the let him go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on May 25, 2012, 09:27:37 AM
Who says there is anything to this rumour? Why get worked up over something that most likely doesn't even exist in the first place?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 25, 2012, 09:35:27 AM
Who says there is anything to this rumour? Why get worked up over something that most likely doesn't even exist in the first place?
When it's direct quotes it carries a bit more weight than the usual rumour grapevine - assume they can't just totally invent quotes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BB74 on May 25, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
Let me guess, he will have been misquoted or its all been translated wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Let me guess, he will have been misquoted or its all been translated wrong.

The only one that will know is Odemwingie. We had massive speculation last year based on very little including some quotes if I remember right, he is one of those that seems to have such speculation follow him every summer regardless of whether there is any truth to them or not. I can't say I'm taking these comments too seriously, even if he does want to leave it will be on the clubs terms.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on May 25, 2012, 09:46:56 AM
Let me guess, he will have been misquoted or its all been translated wrong.
Scouts aint silly, they will look at his age, goal scoring record, work ethics, attitude, previous quotes to media and injury records, overall he aint someone that a top club challenging for titles will touch, I personally think he has found his limit in us, mid table prem at best. Petes problem is he needs to be loved and constantly told how great he is, if he gets that he is a top player, but we have also saw the other side of him when he just cant be arsed, sulks, blames injuries and even needed a shrink to help him through a bad patch. My personal opinion is he aint going anywhere any time soon, and he will more than likely be here next season and say the new coach changed his mind blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on May 25, 2012, 09:48:36 AM
Let me guess, he will have been misquoted or its all been translated wrong.

Or some shyte invented by Russian/Nigerian bloggers/the gutter press? It's not as if that hasn't happened before, exactly.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on May 25, 2012, 09:51:19 AM
Well at least Pete gives us something to read about!

I think same as most transfer windows i would imagine some of what is printed is true, some is exaggerated, some is total rubbish. I think he seems to like having his say and a comment on most things and sometimes it goes a bit wrong!

I have no idea if the article is true or not but what i would say is that if it was, whoever brought him to the Albion did a great sales pitch on him, he said he wants to be playing for the title, he must of known when he signed that werent going to happen unless JP worked his magic on him!

I hope he stays as i think he is a matchwinner but from his side i wouldnt build my hopes on Mourinho been in touch!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on May 25, 2012, 09:53:38 AM
Long summer of speculation ahead then. Can't see why a big club would come in for him after this season, where he was far less impressive than last year, scored less goals and was injured more.

Having said all that, we do need to keep a hold of him. Proven premier league goal-scorers are not the easiest things to find.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on May 25, 2012, 10:33:58 AM
The only one that will know is Odemwingie. We had massive speculation last year based on very little including some quotes if I remember right, he is one of those that seems to have such speculation follow him every summer regardless of whether there is any truth to them or not. I can't say I'm taking these comments too seriously, even if he does want to leave it will be on the clubs terms.


Odemwingie is an articulate guy, the quotes from him always read like they have been made by someone else to me, sort of pidgeon English.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on May 25, 2012, 10:58:47 AM
Lets face it there was only Wigan interested last year so i doubt he's going to get a top 6 side challenging for silverware in the EPL.

West Ham will put in their customary stupid in bid of course.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBArgo on May 25, 2012, 06:28:24 PM
I don't think this is a mis-quote or some kind of error. Anyone remember that Nigerian journalist before Odemwingie signed 2 years back? He basically said Odemwingie viewed us as a stepping-stone for perhaps a season or two, and then he would look for a better English club if he succeeded in England.

Well, he has undoubtedly succeeded in England and will possibly move on. We're in a very strange scenario now. Odemwingie is probably worth about £5 million due to age, but it makes you wonder what we'd do with the money? I mean, how often can you get someone with real quality (A replacement) for only £5 million.

Say what you want, his goals have been crucial for us in recent years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sing on our own on May 25, 2012, 08:17:03 PM
I love him on the pitch (most of the time) but he is a prize idiot off it,he is an intelligent guy so he knows full well what he is saying,is it any coincidence every club he has been at has been glad to see the back of him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 25, 2012, 08:36:51 PM
Has everyone forgot Shane Long ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on May 25, 2012, 08:42:50 PM
Has everyone forgot Shane Long ?

The player who scored twice (a penalty and a blatant offside goal) in fifteen games for us this spring? I realize Shane wasn't really match fit (but why play him then), however, the jury is very much out on Shane imho. I just think he lacks the all round game to be our leading striker if we are to aim for a stable mid table position.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on May 25, 2012, 08:48:00 PM
I love him on the pitch (most of the time) but he is a prize idiot off it,he is an intelligent guy so he knows full well what he is saying,is it any coincidence every club he has been at has been glad to see the back of him

I dunno. PO sure talks a lot but I think the "journo's" and "bloggers" seem happy to pick and chose what they "print". I'd like to hear for myself what PO said. I certainly don't trust the Sun...  ::) Or some Nigerian "blogger"  :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on May 25, 2012, 09:07:48 PM
Incidentally, the Russian article is signed "Yuri Butnev".



Odemwingie is an articulate guy, the quotes from him always read like they have been made by someone else to me, sort of pidgeon English.

In the last two such cases, everyone seems to have gotten their information from Russian sources. Someone in Russia e-mails Pete some questions in Russian, Pete answers. Unless you have someone handy to translate, you're stuck with a software translation, which makes everything sound idiotic.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Moggas barmy army on May 26, 2012, 12:27:38 AM
If he starts all of this again its bye bye. If we could get 5 mill im sure we could attract someone who could fill his boots. That's 40k off the wage bill as well as Scharners wage so we could attract someone for around 6 - 7 mill and afford to stick them on 40g a week it open's up a lot of quality options for us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieboyfred on May 26, 2012, 08:18:30 AM
said it before will say it again , if PO wants to stay in the premier League but go to a team that will challenge for trophies  then i'm sorry Pete the baggies are as good as it is going to get for you mate, because unfortunately you have a vital ingredient missing in your play its called consistency, teams like us  cope with it and you will start a number of games , net a few goals, teams challenging for trophies expect 100% all the time , alternative is warming the bench.

now if  Celtic were interested you will get your trophies,
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on May 26, 2012, 07:05:40 PM
Any player not happy to put on the West Bromwich Albion shirt regardless of who he is we should let go ASP and a replacement brought in ASP.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on May 27, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
Strange tweet from Pete "@OdemwingieP: Thank you  all for the congratulatory msgs. It was the  most beautiful day of my life ! A contract I signed with the biggest joy ever !"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on May 27, 2012, 03:22:36 PM
Strange tweet from Pete "@OdemwingieP: Thank you  all for the congratulatory msgs. It was the  most beautiful day of my life ! A contract I signed with the biggest joy ever !"

He got married yesterday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 27, 2012, 03:25:15 PM
He got married yesterday.

Isn't his wife from around the black country? That should make him want to stay in the area? 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on May 27, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
He got married yesterday.

Oh right, makes sense.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on May 27, 2012, 03:28:34 PM
Isn't his wife from around the black country? That should make him want to stay in the area? 

I know she is English; not sure where she is from specifically. He will definitely stay in England at least.  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 27, 2012, 03:37:10 PM
Isn't his wife from around the black country? That should make him want to stay in the area?

If I remember correctly she's from Manchester and all her family are Man City fans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: reiss on May 27, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
Any player not happy to put on the West Bromwich Albion shirt regardless of who he is we should let go ASP and a replacement brought in ASP.

100% agree, if there going to throw there toys out the pram, they can go
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 27, 2012, 04:10:04 PM
I wonder if she's a stepping stone to something better. Maybe next summer he'll fancy a move to a more ambitious better woman? Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of PO's "come and get me" overtures. You're not signing for united, city, arsenal, Chelsea or spurs. Get over yourself and finish your career in a way you will be proud of in retirement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on May 27, 2012, 04:18:13 PM
I wonder if she's a stepping stone to something better. Maybe next summer he'll fancy a move to a more ambitious better woman? Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of PO's "come and get me" overtures. You're not signing for united, city, arsenal, Chelsea or spurs. Get over yourself and finish your career in a way you will be proud of in retirement.

Don't really understand these types of reactions. He is well within his rights to explore better options for himself. Some people just seem to dislike Odemwingie; Olsson doesn't seem to get the same abuse and what he has said is tantamount to the same thing. Any key player who leaves will be leaving for a lot of money and will have earned their move. If his attitude is poor and he is having a detrimental effect on the team then we can criticise him. Who was the last first team player we have sold whilst we were in the Premiership anyway?

We may have given him a chance in the Premiership but I bet other clubs would of probably have taken the same gamble if we hadn't. The fact is he cost very little, took a pay cut to come here and has contributed massively. I think he has been very professional and conducted himself very well overall during his time here - people should cut the guy some slack.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on May 27, 2012, 04:28:22 PM
Our problem would be finding as replacement within budget who can score 10-15 goals in the Prem. I remember Mowbray saying going into the season we would be fine for goals with Miller, Bednar and Moore as our strikers.  He got that badly wrong and then was forced into panic loans at Xmas , Jay Simpson..all of which played a massive role in our relegation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 27, 2012, 05:04:03 PM
Don't really understand these types of reactions. He is well within his rights to explore better options for himself. Some people just seem to dislike Odemwingie; Olsson doesn't seem to get the same abuse and what he has said is tantamount to the same thing. Any key player who leaves will be leaving for a lot of money and will have earned their move. If his attitude is poor and he is having a detrimental effect on the team then we can criticise him. Who was the last first team player we have sold whilst we were in the Premiership anyway?

We may have given him a chance in the Premiership but I bet other clubs would of probably have taken the same gamble if we hadn't. The fact is he cost very little, took a pay cut to come here and has contributed massively. I think he has been very professional and conducted himself very well overall during his time here - people should cut the guy some slack.

Except with Olsson it is the first time it's happened, with Pete it's every window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on May 27, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
Incidentally, the Russian article is signed "Yuri Butnev".


In the last two such cases, everyone seems to have gotten their information from Russian sources. Someone in Russia e-mails Pete some questions in Russian, Pete answers. Unless you have someone handy to translate, you're stuck with a software translation, which makes everything sound idiotic.


Thanks for that explanation Quakes, its why I am always distrustful of such articles, things get taken out of context and miss interpreted.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on May 27, 2012, 07:42:15 PM
Personally after the first lot of Odemwingie speculation last year and the history of Kanu during in his stint with us I'm very suspicious of these" foreign press reports".Until i see an official transfer request or the player himself on camera saying he wants to move i don't believe a thing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on May 27, 2012, 08:45:08 PM
Personally after the first lot of Odemwingie speculation last year and the history of Kanu during in his stint with us I'm very suspicious of these" foreign press reports".Until i see an official transfer request or the player himself on camera saying he wants to move i don't believe a thing.

Same, I can't believe people are so gullible they swallow everything some Nigerian bloggers (or the Sun, same cred) feed them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on May 27, 2012, 10:58:50 PM
 :D Congratualtions Pistol to you and your lovely wife...best wishes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 17, 2012, 12:16:15 PM
Haha

Sky sports understands..... :D
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7905852/Al-Gharrafa-bid-for-Odemwingie
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: MulumbuPower! on July 17, 2012, 01:05:57 PM
Would Pete leave for a far east club? He's only jusy got married and seems to be close to the family considering his tweets about the in-laws haha
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 17, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
Would Pete leave for a far east club? He's only jusy got married and seems to be close to the family considering his tweets about the in-laws haha

I think he's probably closer to his bank manager than his in laws. If the offer does come in he'll be gone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 17, 2012, 02:55:50 PM
Correction..................IF the RIGHT offer comes in for him he'll be gone !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: michaelwh on July 17, 2012, 02:56:58 PM
This guy and his agent have NO respect for the club or fans at all.Time is right to cash in now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on July 17, 2012, 03:01:38 PM
Don't know about anyone else but I got sick and tired of this last summer when we had the same palava about him going here, there and everywhere.

If the money's right, get rid.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on July 17, 2012, 03:04:39 PM
Don't know about anyone else but I got sick and tired of this last summer when we had the same palava about him going here, there and everywhere.

If the money's right, get rid.

Yeah totally. It annoys me so much we should get rid of our best player. I do not want to read made up articles - so we should sell him ASAP.

Suck on that Odemwingie the best player we have ever had in the Premiership.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2012, 03:11:18 PM
I can't believe people are slating him based on a nothing story from TalkSport. So, so fickle. Some people clearly don't recognise talent at all, anyone who thinks we'd sign a player anywhere near as talented is deluded. If you want good players be prepared for the press to link them away. If we're to establish people need to stop crying about such articles.

He's by far and away the best player we've had (and who's actually shown it at the top level) for many a year.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on July 17, 2012, 03:22:00 PM
Yeah totally. It annoys me so much we should get rid of our best player. I do not want to read made up articles - so we should sell him ASAP.

Suck on that Odemwingie the best player we have ever had in the Premiership.

Ooh, pardon me for having an opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on July 17, 2012, 03:22:50 PM
I can't believe people are slating him based on a nothing story from TalkSport. So, so fickle. Some people clearly don't recognise talent at all, anyone who thinks we'd sign a player anywhere near as talented is deluded. If you want good players be prepared for the press to link them away. If we're to establish people need to stop crying about such articles.

He's by far and away the best player we've had (and who's actually shown it at the top level) for many a year.

See above
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on July 17, 2012, 03:27:57 PM
I can't believe people are slating him based on a nothing story from TalkSport. So, so fickle. Some people clearly don't recognise talent at all, anyone who thinks we'd sign a player anywhere near as talented is deluded. If you want good players be prepared for the press to link them away. If we're to establish people need to stop crying about such articles.

He's by far and away the best player we've had (and who's actually shown it at the top level) for many a year.

I agree. Someone clearly is stirring up rubbish about PO at every opportunity. People then use old nonsense to build on the latest nonsense to create an storm of nonsense to get all worked up about.

I just don't get why people bite on such obvious troll bait time and time again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on July 17, 2012, 03:29:36 PM
Has there ever been any concrete evidance of him distruping or making a nuisance of himself?

Talks**** have made up a story to get people calling him up. Obviously if a club makes a silly offer then we will accept but that is the same with any player at the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 17, 2012, 03:30:52 PM
cant afford to let him go hes the only one of our forwards who can score goals at this level.
fortune isnt a goalscorer
Cox needs a run of games but im unsure we can accomodate him.
Long is all huff and puff and runs his socks off but is not good enough to be our main strker.

all decent players get linked away have to get used to it.
The agents are the ones who leak the story as they're the ones who get the money from the transfer.
im not reading into this story i think its garabge
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on July 17, 2012, 03:31:34 PM
Lets play devils advocate here and what if it actually is true do people expect Clarke to accept being undermined just because hes our most talented players in some peoples view?

My own belief is the story is exagerated beyond proportion however he has got an history of fall outs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on July 17, 2012, 03:34:29 PM
I actually think PO is going to have a really big impact in the league this season. Second season syndrome out of the way he knows what the PL is all about. He has all the ability to do that at this level. My one criticism is his reluctance to use his team mates a bit more. If he trusted them and made the runs off the ball that he can few defenders have the pace to live with him. We have the creative midfielders to supply him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 17, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Don't know about anyone else but I got sick and tired of this last summer when we had the same palava about him going here, there and everywhere.

If the money's right, get rid.

I agree with this. Personally think at 31 we have seen his best years. Cash in reduce the wages and sign someone else.
Also hodgson came out and moaned about odemwingie last year with his numerous 'injuries' so he is a bit of a whiner by the sounds of it.
Dont get me wrong he is a good player but for me high maintenance and at the only realistic age we could get a decent fee for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on July 17, 2012, 03:42:58 PM
Don't think selling our most potent goal threat is the way to go.

Our squad already looks significantly weaker than the one which ended last season without selling our best player as well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 17, 2012, 03:46:49 PM
Don't think selling our most potent goal threat is the way to go.

Our squad already looks significantly weaker than the one which ended last season without selling our best player as well.

In what way weaker? Scharner and Andrews? Shorey?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on July 17, 2012, 03:47:13 PM
Don't think selling our most potent goal threat is the way to go.

Our squad already looks significantly weaker than the one which ended last season without selling our best player as well.

Let's go into the new season with Fortune and Long as our main strikers.... what are people thinking  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on July 17, 2012, 04:09:14 PM
This guy and his agent have NO respect for the club or fans at all.Time is right to cash in now.

Get a replacement and i agree his value can only go down from here on in due to his age and his attitude as been bad since the beginning of last season.
When you play as selfish as he did last year your doing yourself no favours.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 17, 2012, 04:09:23 PM
In what way weaker? Scharner and Andrews? Shorey?

well selling shorey means we have limited cover at left back
Scharner has been a massively influential player at the club and scored some important winning goals at places like seal park, st james', stadium of light. big player for us in derby games got the crowd going. not to mention he and andrews were both in the pecking order above Dorrans last season. All 3 had premier league experience which is vital. so i also to an extent agree we look weaker.

but if we sold odemwingie i would be marching to the bookies and backing us to go down. As if our main strike line was fortune and Long we would struggle!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on July 17, 2012, 04:12:01 PM
Do people think its really that easy to replace him  :-\

It took us 10 years to find someone like him!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on July 17, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
If we get 8 million or more he will be gone. Simple as.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on July 17, 2012, 04:25:10 PM
Id argue not only do we need to keep him but we should consider bringing another top class striker into the club to compete with him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 17, 2012, 04:30:17 PM
Get a replacement and i agree his value can only go down from here on in due to his age and his attitude as been bad since the beginning of last season.
When you play as selfish as he did last year your doing yourself no favours.

This is key. We could have scored maybe 3-5 goals more if he hadnt been so blindingly selfish in games last year.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on July 17, 2012, 04:42:51 PM
This is key. We could have scored maybe 3-5 goals more if he hadnt been so blindingly selfish in games last year.

But if I'm honest, of all the people to finish chances, it was usually him I trusted most. He can be selfish if he wants to score, and an Odemwingie lacking confidence wants to score. Soon as he's got his confidence he loses the selfishness and the team performances go up too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on July 17, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
Looks to me like everybody is getting worked by a story by talksport and sky sports! Cmon now!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on July 17, 2012, 05:06:35 PM
In what way weaker? Scharner and Andrews? Shorey?

All three of those played a significant part last season. As yet none of them have been replaced and with Cox potentially leaving as well we have no squad depth whatsoever.

If you also add Pete to that list aswell then were starting to look pretty weak.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 17, 2012, 05:22:07 PM
"Get rid off Odemwingie, he's got a bad attitude, he's disruptive blah blah blah".

There has been NO clear evidence of Odemwingie ever doing anything wrong. Fabricated stories, badly translated interviews, false accusations that he was an feigning injury which he proved were false when he posted a picture of his injured foot on Twitter, wild rumours and presumptions. The worst he's done is talked about a hypothetical situation regarding a top top team coming in for him where he'd possibly be unable to say no. He's a bit arrogant and on the pitch he's often quite selfish (which of course is sometimes very frustrating), but off it he's done little wrong. He's also been here two seasons and produced the goods reaching double figures in goals for both of them, which is a terrific record, so you can't lambaste his on the pitch contributions either.

Strikers who can score 10+ goals in a season in the Premiership are absolute gold dust, extremely hard to get hold of unless you're one of the top few teams, so now we finally have one after trying to get one for years and years it's unbelievable people want to get him of him. Madness. I admit to doing this myself in the past, but people need to stop getting so worked up over rubbish from the likes of Talkcrap and SkySports who are famous for the nonsense they spout.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on July 17, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
The same thing happend last year and there was the same comments saying "Sell him" & "Hes a bad egg" Thought people would have learned the first time round not to listen to chinese whispers.......
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 17, 2012, 06:28:49 PM
Dear Head of Rumours @ Talksport,

      Gizza a job. I could make this sort of pooh up all day long. You could also name me as your official source.
                                               Yours, Billy-Bob Bullcrap.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 17, 2012, 06:38:26 PM
"Get rid off Odemwingie, he's got a bad attitude, he's disruptive blah blah blah".

There has been NO clear evidence of Odemwingie ever doing anything wrong. Fabricated stories, badly translated interviews, false accusations that he was an feigning injury which he proved were false when he posted a picture of his injured foot on Twitter, wild rumours and presumptions. The worst he's done is talked about a hypothetical situation regarding a top top team coming in for him where he'd possibly be unable to say no. He's a bit arrogant and on the pitch he's often quite selfish (which of course is sometimes very frustrating), but off it he's done little wrong. He's also been here two seasons and produced the goods reaching double figures in goals for both of them, which is a terrific record, so you can't lambaste his on the pitch contributions either.

Strikers who can score 10+ goals in a season in the Premiership are absolute gold dust, extremely hard to get hold of unless you're one of the top few teams, so now we finally have one after trying to get one for years and years it's unbelievable people want to get him of him. Madness. I admit to doing this myself in the past, but people need to stop getting so worked up over rubbish from the likes of Talkcrap and SkySports who are famous for the nonsense they spout.

Ah a voice of reason...thank the lord for that. I get sick and tired of all the rubbish that gets slung at Odemwingie when these baseless stories appear.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on July 17, 2012, 07:00:10 PM
Dear Head of Rumours @ Talksport,

      Gizza a job. I could make this sort of pooh up all day long. You could also name me as your official source.
                                               Yours, Billy-Bob Bullcrap.

Didnt he play in the Right Back for Bolton in the 26 Cup Final........ :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on July 17, 2012, 09:32:20 PM
Don't think JC would be so naive to sell our most important goalscorer unless he was pretty damned certain that he'd got an equally prolific scorer nailed on to come in. I hope as well DA remembers the debacle of Mowbray's team going into a Prem. season with arguably the weakest set of forwards in the Division (Bednar, Miller, Moore, Beattie). And look where we ended up.
I don't want to run down Long and Fortune too much as they are good at what they do, but at this level you need a finisher who can unlock very well organised defences with a snap shot, or a dribble and shot. And Pete is the best we have at doing that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 17, 2012, 10:51:26 PM
a) 25 PL goals in two seasons with numerous assists: Get him out the club. Troublemaker. Costs us more goals than he scores through his greedy play. Sick of his moaning.

b) Not performed for two years, way down the midfield pecking order, done nothing at this level: He's Corberan, must keep at all costs, hope he really turns it round this year (again).

Name the two players based on poster reaction on here...  ::)

I use this purely as an example  8)

If Odemwingie were to be sold we would be very close to getting relegated.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 17, 2012, 10:58:36 PM
a) as a proven international rightly or wrongly people expect too much of him and demand instant impact

b) Someone who came from different levels ie: Scotlands lowest league, came in when given a chance had an impact and so given his problems people were prepared to give him more time.

Don't see how the two can be compared but hey lets have a pop at Dozza for a change.

If Odemwingie is sold then the questions have to be asked elsewhere not on here and certainly not to be used to have a pop at other players. Maybe he is the one who wants to go and the club will hold out for an offer they find acceptable not what the player deems acceptable.

Not all goings on at clubs make the papers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on July 17, 2012, 11:02:13 PM
a) 25 PL goals in two seasons with numerous assists: Get him out the club. Troublemaker. Costs us more goals than he scores through his greedy play. Sick of his moaning.

b) Not performed for two years, way down the midfield pecking order, done nothing at this level: He's Corberan, must keep at all costs, hope he really turns it round this year (again).

Name the two players based on poster reaction on here...  ::)

I use this purely as an example  8)

If Odemwingie were to be sold we would be very close to getting relegated.

Why do you have to bring Dorrans up again???

I actually agree with you with regards to Odemwingie. I personally think he is by far and away our best striker.

As for Dorrans; judge him after he has a decent spell in the first team.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 17, 2012, 11:04:18 PM
a) as a proven international rightly or wrongly people expect to o much of him and demand instant impact

b) Someone who came from different levels ie: Scotlands lowest league, came in when given a chance had an impact and so given his problems people wre preapred to give him more time.

Don't see how the two can be compared but hey lets have a pop aty Dozza for a change.

If Odemwingie is sold then the questions have to be asked elsewhere not on here and certainly not to be used to have a pop at other players. Maybe he is the one who wants to go and the club will hold out for an offer they find acceptable not what the player deems acceptable.

Not all goings on at clubs make the papers.

It was not meant as a pop at GD. It was the best way of illustrating the fan reaction on here certainly to our most influential Premier League player against arguably after that Championship season our current biggest Premier League disappointment.

It's fan attitudes I'm getting at, not individual player ability.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on July 17, 2012, 11:08:24 PM
Jacko2000 what would you do then if you were the manager and these stories of Odemwingie were correct?

Would you just let him get away with things because hes was our 'best' player?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 17, 2012, 11:09:16 PM
It was not meant as a pop at GD. It was the best way of illustrating the fan reaction on here certainly to our most influential Premier League player against arguably after that Championship season our current biggest Premier League disappointment.

It's fan attitudes I'm getting at, not individual player ability.

Of course it was. It always is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 17, 2012, 11:16:32 PM
Of course it was. It always is.

 ???
Anyone got a brick wall??

I've just posted exactly what I meant...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 17, 2012, 11:18:44 PM
Jacko2000 what would you do then if you were the manager and these stories of Odemwingie were correct?

Would you just let him get away with things because hes was our 'best' player?

No but to a certain extent, you do have to keep them sweet (your best players), it's common sense. You certainly don't drive your best players out of the club. Can you imagine Mourinho selling Ronaldo because he upset him in training? No he'd get his arm around him and have a stern but quiet word.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 17, 2012, 11:20:04 PM
???
Anyone got a brick wall??

I've just posted exactly what I meant...

Your perfectly entitled to post about Dorrans, don't get me wrong, but some folk on here will doubt what you post due to your continued berating of Graham Dorrans. You make it appear like you have a personal vendetta against the lad. Your post makes perfect sense to me, and I tend to agree with what you're saying but don't get annoyed if others question the meaning of your posts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on July 17, 2012, 11:21:38 PM
It was not meant as a pop at GD. It was the best way of illustrating the fan reaction on here certainly to our most influential Premier League player against arguably after that Championship season our current biggest Premier League disappointment.

It's fan attitudes I'm getting at, not individual player ability.

Only you do have form on this one Jacko? Fans just express their views and feelings on what they see in each individual case. There isnt anything fundamentally wrong with that. If players feel Odemwingie is more focussed on the cash than the result thats their view. I dont agree thats the case but in truth there are probably as many Dorrans knockers out there anyhow.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 18, 2012, 01:36:44 AM
Didnt he play in the Right Back for Bolton in the 26 Cup Final........ :)

One & the same,According to our souses at skysport sorry talksport ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on July 18, 2012, 06:45:18 AM
 ;D Don't believe any nonsense that PO is leaving untill I see 10 mill come our way and in JPs account(sorry transfer money account) :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mannimc on July 18, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
I feel that PO will leave the club before the start of the season starts but i think we will cash in on him for somewhere in the region of £7 million which is a reasonable price for a 31 year old striker who is reliant on pace. I would be sad to see him go as his goal record speaks for itself.

I am a little concerned about the replacements that are being lined up in Martins, Rosenburg and co. If Odemwingie is allowed to leave the club there needs to be a top class replacement who we are willing to pay a simular amount of money too.

I was very sceptical of the Steve Clarke appointment and feel a big top class signing may also get the doubters on board.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pete on July 18, 2012, 09:32:57 AM
I feel that PO will leave the club before the start of the season starts but i think we will cash in on him for somewhere in the region of £7 million which is a reasonable price for a 31 year old striker who is reliant on pace. I would be sad to see him go as his goal record speaks for itself.

I am a little concerned about the replacements that are being lined up in Martins, Rosenburg and co. If Odemwingie is allowed to leave the club there needs to be a top class replacement who we are willing to pay a simular amount of money too.

I was very sceptical of the Steve Clarke appointment and feel a big top class signing may also get the doubters on board.
If we sold PO for 7 million, I cant see the club bringing anyone in to replace his.  I think they would utilise Long in the PO role!

Still what do I know Im just a fan?  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on July 18, 2012, 09:38:38 AM
Jeremy Peace and Dan Ashworth will do all they can to make Steve Clarke a sucess at the Albion,
selling Odemwingie is just not an option, he`s contracted to the club for another 3 years so he has to
get it head down and get on with it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 18, 2012, 09:49:53 AM
If Odemwingie goes he will have to be replaced.
I dont see why the general view is we need to spend the money on a 'top class replacement'
How much did we spend on Odemwingie? and how many on here had heard of him before he came here?
I dont believe all I read about Pete wanting to leave etc etc etc, but it does seem taht about this time of year there is a media circus around him.
Wonder why that happens  ::) ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on July 18, 2012, 10:00:06 AM
Just seen Chris L saying that we have rejected a bid for him and there is more to follow later in the Brum mail.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on July 18, 2012, 10:10:05 AM
Money talks in football and if Qatari outfit Al-Gharrafa, who have made a bit for Odemwinge, are determined to sign him then they'll have the financial clout to persuade JP to say 'Thank you very much'. All I hope is that if we do let PO go for big bucks then we quickly re-invest the money in another striker.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: michaelwh on July 18, 2012, 10:16:49 AM
PO wants to go or rather his agent wants him to go,same thing though to the club.PO is nothing but a disruption every transfer window.Add this to fact that he only played 25 prem games last season with a return of 10 goals(a good strike rate it has to be said)However take out the goals against the wolves and 6 goals in a season isnt very good.Also at the age of 31 he aint getting no younger for a striker.Also last season he had a questionable injury which suddenly cleared up after RH questioned it in the press. SELL SELL SELL
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on July 18, 2012, 10:45:16 AM
PO wants to go or rather his agent wants him to go,same thing though to the club.PO is nothing but a disruption every transfer window.Add this to fact that he only played 25 prem games last season with a return of 10 goals(a good strike rate it has to be said)However take out the goals against the wolves and 6 goals in a season isnt very good.Also at the age of 31 he aint getting no younger for a striker.Also last season he had a questionable injury which suddenly cleared up after RH questioned it in the press. SELL SELL SELL

Can't say I agree mate. In Odemwingie we have a potential match winner everytime he steps on the pitch. "Take out the hatrick at Wolves" ! Why? This was a great achievement and I'm sure it will be many years before and Albion player matches it. Of the other 6 goals - Blackburn, Liverpool, QPR away? 7 points but to name a few. Also his performance against Newcastle away in which he scored - then set up the winning goal!
He cost us around 2 mil.....................why should we sell a player of his caliber - even at the age of 31! We may be offered around 4-5 mil if we're lucky - then we only have Long and need to find areplacement at fairly short notice. Will his replacement gel to in team, and is Long ready to shoulder the responsibility.?
Dangerous game in my opinion and one which could well back fire. My guess is he will still be worth 2 mil at the end of the season - then is the time to consider!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: michaelwh on July 18, 2012, 11:07:14 AM
There is no doubt to POs  talent.on his day a proven match winner,however I can envisage those days becoming fewer and fewer.Last season it took all the guile,cunning and experience of Roy Hodgson to get PO to start performing.Is Steve clark able to do that or even willing to play the mind games needed to stroke POs ego long enough to get him fully motivated.The longer the club put up with the antics of PO and his agent the worse things will become.Also what effect does the increasing melodrama that is Peter Odemwingie have on the rest of the squad.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on July 18, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
There is no doubt to POs  talent.on his day a proven match winner,however I can envisage those days becoming fewer and fewer.Last season it took all the guile,cunning and experience of Roy Hodgson to get PO to start performing.Is Steve clark able to do that or even willing to play the mind games needed to stroke POs ego long enough to get him fully motivated.The longer the club put up with the antics of PO and his agent the worse things will become.Also what effect does the increasing melodrama that is Peter Odemwingie have on the rest of the squad.

I understand your point. However, only Steve Clark can prove weather or not he can get the best out of Pete - only he can be the judge of that and deserves the opportunity to do so - I will back him whatever he decides. I can only state the facts.......does he cause a problem in the dressing room? Who knows. Was it evident last season? if so, I'll take another season please! This may well be his last season - and if SC needs to stroke is ego, or anything else in that matter! - if he does manage to get another 10-12 goals out of him this season, and other players chip in, we could well be looking at another solid season!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 18, 2012, 11:34:58 AM
We have to keep Pete at all costs. He is the best striker we have had in modern times.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: reynolc2 on July 18, 2012, 11:42:03 AM
latest speculation related to Pete.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/7905852/Al-Gharrafa-bid-for-Odemwingie

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 18, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
latest speculation related to Pete.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/7905852/Al-Gharrafa-bid-for-Odemwingie

I stopped reading after Sky Sports understands  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on July 18, 2012, 12:13:51 PM
latest speculation related to Pete.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/7905852/Al-Gharrafa-bid-for-Odemwingie

This is yesterday's news.

The bid has already been rejected.

Keep up!! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jsam on July 18, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
I must admit I'm in two minds about Odemwingie. He's lazy, selfish, needs to learn the offside rule, and over a season probably wastes more chances than he converts.

If there was someone in the wings to replace him, I'd say let him go and cash in. But we do need someone lined up.

Could that be Shane Long? He scored eight in 24 last season, quite a few coming off the bench, whereas Peter managed ten in 25 - not too different. Is ten goals a good enough return when you think Danny Graham at Swansea managed 12 and Grant Holt at Norwich managed 15? Can Clark put instill some belief in Long?

For a club with ambition, I think on balance ten is not enough for your first choice striker. So with due thanks for a hat trick against Wolves, overall, I'd say tarra a bit, Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on July 18, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Pete is the best striker we have had at this club in a long while, he has that air of unpredictability about him which none of our other strikers offer, and most of all he scares defenders.

Premier league defenders are scared of strikers who can run with the ball at pace and thats what PO does.

We'd be silly to sell him in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 18, 2012, 12:44:55 PM
I must admit I'm in two minds about Odemwingie. He's lazy, selfish, needs to learn the offside rule, and over a season probably wastes more chances than he converts.

If there was someone in the wings to replace him, I'd say let him go and cash in. But we do need someone lined up.

Could that be Shane Long? He scored eight in 24 last season, quite a few coming off the bench, whereas Peter managed ten in 25 - not too different. Is ten goals a good enough return when you think Danny Graham at Swansea managed 12 and Grant Holt at Norwich managed 15? Can Clark put instill some belief in Long?

For a club with ambition, I think on balance ten is not enough for your first choice striker. So with due thanks for a hat trick against Wolves, overall, I'd say tarra a bit, Pete.
Pete managed 15 in his first season.... same rules as these two. but that was cancelled by how many we conceded.if you don't concede you only need one goal to win. (hodgson's theory)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2012, 12:46:56 PM
Never understood this nonsense about being lazy (although considering people used to say it about Brunt, it seems people just prefer headless less talented chickens) he does a lot of running for the team, he's just intelligent about it so doesn't doggedly chase after the ball constantly just to appease the fans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on July 18, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Agreed, people who say he is lazy and doesn't work simply don't understand football whatsoever.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sturb74 on July 18, 2012, 01:08:36 PM
Yeah lets get rid of Pete!! as I understand it (just like Sky Sports) He causes trouble every pre season and wants to leave, our top scorer 2 seasons on the trot whislt carrying numerous injuries (according to his last manager) so lets have a look at replacing him with another forward who has scored as many goals as he has in 2 season in the top flight.

Last Season
van Persie  30,  Rooney  27, Agüero   23, Adebayor   17,  Yakubu   17,  Dempsey 17, Ba 16, Holt 15,
 Džeko 14, Balotelli   13, Cissé   13,  Fletcher  12,  Graham   12,      Suárez, Luis  11, Defoe  11,
van der Vaart 11, Sturridge  11, Lampard   11,     Hernández,  10   Odemwingie   10

2010/11
Tevez  21/Berbatov  21/van Persie Arsenal  18/ Bent 17/Odemwingie   15/Carroll, 13/Campbell, DJ   13/
Hernández,  13/ Malouda 13/van der Vaart  13/ Kuyt  13/Drogba 12/Nolan United  12/Adam'  12/ 
Dempsey   12/ Rooney   11/Gyan  10/Lampard 10/Nasri   10/Pavlyuchenko Hotspur  10


So from that list if we take out players we have no chance of signing and the midfielders we are left with a small list of about 3 imo

Fletcher, (dingles are said to be quoting £12m) Never going to be sold to us (I wouldn't mind him though)
DJ Campbell, not good enough IMO and deffinatley no better than Pete
Holt, just signed new contract at Norwich, I don't really think he is all that, just another Marcus Stewart.
Graham, see Holt

So lets go and buy another unproven strike in the prem  cross our fingers close our eyes and hope for the best  because as you can see from the 2 list above Pete is in some shoddy compnay and should be sold ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 18, 2012, 02:19:52 PM
I must admit I'm in two minds about Odemwingie. He's lazy, selfish, needs to learn the offside rule, and over a season probably wastes more chances than he converts.

If there was someone in the wings to replace him, I'd say let him go and cash in. But we do need someone lined up.

Could that be Shane Long? He scored eight in 24 last season, quite a few coming off the bench, whereas Peter managed ten in 25 - not too different. Is ten goals a good enough return when you think Danny Graham at Swansea managed 12 and Grant Holt at Norwich managed 15? Can Clark put instill some belief in Long?

For a club with ambition, I think on balance ten is not enough for your first choice striker. So with due thanks for a hat trick against Wolves, overall, I'd say tarra a bit, Pete.


Yes a first choice Striker who was forced out to the right wing and still made double figures.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jsam on July 18, 2012, 02:28:24 PM


Yes a first choice Striker who was forced out to the right wing and still made double figures.
Let me repeat: For a club with ambition is ten goals enough? I'm not looking for a fight here, just questioning whether he's good enough if we want to move forward. Dempsey got 17 for Fulham - shouldn't we be tryoing to match that, at very least?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: NathWBA on July 18, 2012, 02:49:05 PM


Yes a first choice Striker who was forced out to the right wing and still made double figures.
5 of those goals came in 2 games, so in-between what was he offering us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 18, 2012, 02:52:03 PM
If we're to progress as a club then we need players like Peter Odemwingie on board. Regardless of his age, Pete oozes quality with the ball and although he may be selfish, he's a striker, and naturally, strikers are selfish and greedy. Pete for two seasons running has broke the 10 goal barrier and you would have to question where we would be if we didn't have him. Granted, his effort and application appeared questionable at times last season and he may have not hit the heights  he set himself the season before hand but how many did reach the standards they set themselves? Odemwingie was another shackled by Roy's demands and at times that showed, but he still had the quality to get us ten goals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie82 on July 18, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
Isn't this a really simple situation, i.e. Pete is not for sale; full stop?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 18, 2012, 03:08:07 PM
Every player is for sale for the right price. We don't want to let our best players go by any means but if the price is right and should they actually want to leave the club then there is a good chance they will go, its just the way football is these days.

We need to build as a club and that means improving on what we already have not by weakening the side.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on July 18, 2012, 03:12:41 PM
5 of those goals came in 2 games, so in-between what was he offering us

I'll give Messi a call, tell him those games in which he scored braces and hatricks don't count, goal tally can only be substantiated when you score a single goal in any single game.  Never realised it worked like that - but thanks for clearing it up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Webby on July 18, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
5 of those goals came in 2 games, so in-between what was he offering us

Funky hair styles
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on July 18, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
He's not going to get any younger, so if we get offered silly money and he'd rather go and ponce around there instead of playing in a proper league, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Joust on July 18, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
5 of those goals came in 2 games, so in-between what was he offering us

That's a ridiculous thing to say
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on July 18, 2012, 05:11:55 PM
if this cash rich club are really interested then quote them a figure end of. 10 million take it or leave it!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Moggas barmy army on July 18, 2012, 06:32:26 PM
if this cash rich club are really interested then quote them a figure end of. 10 million take it or leave it!!

Personally i'd quote them around 12-14 million guys scored 25 goals in 2 seasons in the premier league. our best striker, long term contract and they have money coming out of their ears if they want him pay up. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on July 19, 2012, 08:30:26 AM
if this cash rich club are really interested then quote them a figure end of. 10 million take it or leave it!!
Exactly.  He ain't Astle or Regis.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnny Cash on July 19, 2012, 01:26:37 PM
That's a ridiculous thing to say

Its not ridiculous at all. I don't agree but I see his point.

Im sure Fergie said something similar about Berbatov when he scored 5. Something along the lines of its ok scoring 3 4 or 5 in big victories but he needs to be able to grab the important winners when the team needs it.

If Odemwinge played a blinder once ever blue moon with nothing in between it would be a reasonable comment, and if thats how he feels then its his opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 19, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
West Bromwich Albion boss Steve Clarke has told star striker Peter Odemwingie he will not be sold despite hints that the Nigeria international is tempted by a big-money move to Qatar.

Clarke today came out fighting in the latest Odemwingie transfer saga and insisted his star striker is “not for sale”.

And the Hawthorns head coach hit back at reports of a bust-up with the Nigeria international but revealed he has held talks with the forward on his future.
Albion are braced for another summer of speculation surrounding the 30-year-old with Clarke reluctant to comment on the striker’s own intentions following a rejected transfer bid from Qatari club Al-Gharafa – but adamant the Baggies will not be forced to sell.

“I believe there has been a bid for Peter but we don’t want to sell our best players and Peter knows the situation,” said Clarke.
“We have had lots of amicable discussions but no ‘bust-up’ and I want to make that very clear. ”

However, asked whether Odemwingie was happy to honour the remaining two years of his contract, Clarke said: “That’s a question for Peter but every discussion has been very amicable.”

Clarke will take charge of his first public game as Albion boss when his side tackle Malmo FF tonight in a friendly at Swedbank Stadion (6pm BST). Fans can watch live online at www.mff.se

Read more: http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2012/07/19/albions-peter-odemwingie-will-not-be-sold/#ixzz214XDvUGJ
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on July 19, 2012, 02:04:05 PM
Let's hope he stays but if he wants to go then as long we get £10m for him then let him go.  He's under contract and that's what he is worth to us.  He would leave on our terms, not on his terms.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 19, 2012, 02:44:31 PM
Let me repeat: For a club with ambition is ten goals enough? I'm not looking for a fight here, just questioning whether he's good enough if we want to move forward. Dempsey got 17 for Fulham - shouldn't we be tryoing to match that, at very least?

interesting what you can read into stats  Dempsey may have got 17 goals last season but he's got 33 in 3 seasons for Fulham (or 16 in 2 seasons) ...Odemwingie has 25 in 2 seasons for us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jamesa2407 on July 19, 2012, 05:23:09 PM
I have always made a point with Odemwingie that he will always be an important striker to us, and for how much he cost 1.5 Million? He has scored 25 goal's in 2 years, that's £60,000 Per goal. Plus assist I haven't taken into account. This really just shows how cheap he actually was. The problem with African players, is usually there agents are trying to link them to clubs every transfer window, its usually the agent and not the player. Obviously the club has sounded there intention by rejected the offer for him, but has Pete said he wants to go. I think he is worth another 10 goals next season and I hope he stays.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on July 20, 2012, 11:10:26 AM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120720/exclusive-west-brom-reject-%C2%A34m-bid-odemwingie-177004?

Another exclusive from TalkBollox. What do I believe? Training ground bust up with Clarke no, denied by the club and not reported anywhere else or hinted at by any of the local media. Bid from Al-Gharafa well that is a fact was it £4m? Sounds plausible given that we rejected the bid out of hand. Does Odemwingie want to go? That is the key question or let me rephrase how much does Peter Odemwingie like money?

Plainly at the moment the Albion will kick any bid into touch, if Al-Gharafa doubled their opening offer assuming it was £4m and or Odemwingie throws his toys out of the pram then things might change.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 20, 2012, 08:51:49 PM
Let's hope his head isn't turned by any bids which come in, because history has shown that his performance/effort levels tail off if he becomes unsettled.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on July 20, 2012, 09:14:17 PM
If their opening bid was £4m then for me it would not take much more for us to get rid of a player who is getting on in years. £6m and he is gone I would think. Await another bid imminently.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stubba on July 20, 2012, 10:25:15 PM
just back from sweden, stayed in the hilton with the players, pete looked very happy to me. :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BobTaylor on July 20, 2012, 10:33:54 PM
just back from sweden, stayed in the hilton with the players, pete looked very happy to me. :P

Wasnt he throwing tantrums at the cleaning maid or going to bed 5 minutes past steve clarkes curfew time ?, appalling attitude, surprised they let him stay in the same hotel as the rest of the fantastically loyal team that clapped our fans that travelled all the way to sweden for a nothing match.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 21, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
If their opening bid was £4m then for me it would not take much more for us to get rid of a player who is getting on in years. £6m and he is gone I would think. Await another bid imminently.

We got £6 million for Joe Kamara... Selling Odemwingie for 6 and then getting relegated would net the club a deficit of around £47 million, JP is smarter than that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on July 21, 2012, 11:43:45 AM
Sunderland got about 12 million for Asamoah Gyan so I think we should be looking at 8 million if we sell. Replacing a player like Odemwingie will be very difficult and having said we are keeping him, the club need a big bid to explain to the fans why he was sold. Id understand selling for 8 but we need a good replacement and cant let this drag too far into the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: NathWBA on July 21, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
I'll give Messi a call, tell him those games in which he scored braces and hatricks don't count, goal tally can only be substantiated when you score a single goal in any single game.  Never realised it worked like that - but thanks for clearing it up.
no one has said he needs to score a goal every game, I'm saying half his goals came in a two games, we don't need sone who might pop up with a brace or hat trick every no and again we need someone who can play consistently, Pete doesn't, and to mention messi is pathetic, he scores braces and hat tricks through out a season not in two games and then goes missing for 10. Peres 5 goals that he scored when he decided to turn up helped us win 2 games, I'd rather have a player who can perform consistently and help us win more games even if it means he scores less goals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on July 21, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
Sunderland got about 12 million for Asamoah Gyan so I think we should be looking at 8 million if we sell. Replacing a player like Odemwingie will be very difficult and having said we are keeping him, the club need a big bid to explain to the fans why he was sold. Id understand selling for 8 but we need a good replacement and cant let this drag too far into the summer.

Did Sunderland get that for Gyan?......................................Fair Play!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 21, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
The very reliable Talk sport has just reported that a inproved offer from Al-Gharafa is on the way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on July 21, 2012, 10:34:57 PM
Did Sunderland get that for Gyan?......................................Fair Play!
ftp:// thats what they paid for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on July 21, 2012, 11:10:40 PM
If their opening bid was £4m then for me it would not take much more for us to get rid of a player who is getting on in years. £6m and he is gone I would think. Await another bid imminently.

I really cannot see any logical reason that we would sell for £6m - what kind of replacement would we get for that ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 22, 2012, 01:47:29 AM
just back from sweden, stayed in the hilton with the players, pete looked very happy to me. :P
Do the maths, then you´d be smiling as well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jamesh_91 on July 22, 2012, 11:54:51 AM
If we were offered 8m and decided to invest that money (plus the rest required) in a striker who is younger and can score goals in the PL (Steven Fletcher) then it would be a smart piece of business. However, there aren't many strikers who are going to be available for 8-13m who have scored as many goals as Pete in 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 22, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
If we were offered 8m and decided to invest that money (plus the rest required) in a striker who is younger and can score goals in the PL (Steven Fletcher) then it would be a smart piece of business. However, there aren't many strikers who are going to be available for 8-13m who have scored as many goals as Pete in 2 seasons.
wolves fans think they can get £15million as a base number though for a championship player, also take into account the probable price hike we'd get from them. I don't know many if any "proven" strickers that could be bought for the amount we think pete is worth. Even defoe may be out of range due to wages.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on July 22, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
Top Premier goalscorers - last two seasons combined

1 RVP                                      48
2 Shrek                                   38
3 Dempsey                             29
4 Berbatov                              27
5 Bent                                    26
6 Odemwingie                       25

All that despite "being inconsistent", "not trying", "having a poor season" "blah, blah, blah"

Add in his dozen assists in season 1 (not sure how many in season 2)

All in all it's obvious we should snatch anyone's hand off if they offered us £3M or £4m   ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 22, 2012, 04:22:21 PM
Top Premier goalscorers - last two seasons combined

1 RVP                                      48
2 Shrek                                   38
3 Dempsey                             29
4 Berbatov                              27
5 Bent                                    26
6 Odemwingie                       25

All that despite "being inconsistent", "not trying", "having a poor season" "blah, blah, blah"

Add in his dozen assists in season 1 (not sure how many in season 2)

All in all it's obvious we should snatch anyone's hand off if they offered us £3M or £4m   ::)

Mate I've given up arguing the case. It would be the biggest single instance of "don't know what you've got until it's gone" in the modern history of the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 22, 2012, 04:48:02 PM
Yeah, I agree with the last two posts. If we lose Odemwingie we will struggle to stay in the Prem. His goals and general contribution have been one of the biggest reasons we have had such success over the last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on July 22, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
Yeah, I agree with the last two posts. If we lose Odemwingie we will struggle to stay in the Prem. His goals and general contribution have been one of the biggest reasons we have had such success over the last 2 seasons.

Without a doubt. Genuine PL strikers like PO are like gold dust. I'd far rather have him than money in the bank. And I notice the 'grab the money and reinvest' comments are very short of giving alternatives to PO. There simply is not a large supply of quality strikers for a club our size, and with our economy, who are guaranteed to do the job PO has been doing well for the last two seasons for the money we can pay.

We were very lucky to land PO. If it was that easy to replace him we would already have had another player of his calibre on the books, but we do not, for the obvious reason there is none to be had. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on July 22, 2012, 05:44:26 PM
Does nobody remember the Mowbray season in the PL?

You cannot stay up without a genuine premier league striker. Pete is the only striker we have who has consistently shown that he is up to that standard.

I don't understand the general dislike of him, seems that much of the 'wanting to move' in the transfer window is agent driven.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on July 22, 2012, 09:10:14 PM
Without a doubt. Genuine PL strikers like PO are like gold dust. I'd far rather have him than money in the bank. And I notice the 'grab the money and reinvest' comments are very short of giving alternatives to PO. There simply is not a large supply of quality strikers for a club our size, and with our economy, who are guaranteed to do the job PO has been doing well for the last two seasons for the money we can pay.

We were very lucky to land PO. If it was that easy to replace him we would already have had another player of his calibre on the books, but we do not, for the obvious reason there is none to be had.

Peter Odemwingie £1.5 million Andy Carroll £35 million..says it all really doesnt it?

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 22, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
If we can stay up another season then maybe we can replace Pete but theres no way we are ready to do that now,for all his shoulder shrugs etc we need Odemwingie.
Somebody quoted Sunderland selling Gyan,i don't think they have replaced him properly yet even with that huge fee they got and they are a more established club than us.
Don't make a huge mistake Albion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on July 22, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
If we can stay up another season then maybe we can replace Pete but theres no way we are ready to do that now,for all his shoulder shrugs etc we need Odemwingie.
Somebody quoted Sunderland selling Gyan,i don't think they have replaced him properly yet even with that huge fee they got and they are a more established club than us.
Don't make a huge mistake Albion.
I would not want to sell Odemwingie now but by 2014 he will have left the club.

 The fact is we will not offer a 33 year old a long term contract at £40,000 a week, however provided his form has not dropped off a cliff someone will. With this in mind we have 3 transfer windows where there will be some speculation about his future.

My view is that at the point his form dips and he is not a regular starter he will be sold in the next window. Otherwise the club will not sell unless there is too good to turn down money on the table and what constitutes too good to turn down money will diminish over time. In the current window my guess is no offer of less than £8m would be entertained and the clock is ticking at the point where we cannot line up a potential replacement then almost no amount of money will persuade us to sell.

The only comfort I can offer in comparison to Sunderland who seemed to have completely ambushed by Gyan's falling out with Bruce and Campbel''s long term injury, is that this scenario is predictable and hopefully the recruitment team have potential targets on the radar should Odemwingie or any other player be subject to a huge bid because at some point in time it will happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 03, 2012, 02:26:16 AM
The Odemwinge rumours have re-surfaced in today's Sun:

PETER ODEMWINGIE is a £4.5million target for Sunderland and Fulham.
West Brom want £6m for the striker, 31, but are likely to accept less.
Nigerian Odemwingie has hit 25 goals in 54 Prem starts for Baggies.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 03, 2012, 03:27:54 AM
PETER ODEMWINGIE is a £4.5million target for Sunderland and Fulham.
West Brom want £6m for the striker, 31, but are unlikely to accept less.
Nigerian Odemwingie has hit 25 goals in 54 Prem starts for Baggies.

Is OK

I corrected it for them ;)


and another

The Sun is expecting to actually have a factual byline sometime in the next decade.
Until then they hope to just make somemore stuff up to annoy Fans from Clubs they don't care about.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 03, 2012, 06:06:48 AM
I would have thought it very unlikely that we would sell Odemwingie to a Premier League team for not much more than the Arabs offered and even £6m would not tempt us. The only grain of truth in the story in the Sun is that both Fulham and Sunderland are probably looking for a striker. I remain convinced that we will not sell at the prices quoted unless the player makes it clear that he wants a move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 03, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
Theres people on this forum who wouldnt take 8million for Long and i would want twice for odemwingie as twice the player. we would be mad to sell until we have another top draw striker
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RICH ONE on August 03, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
The Dingles want over 10 million for Fletcher so why should we sell Peter for less ?. Fulham came on the wrong side of Mr Peace when they were conned when they brought Kamara. God help them if they bid for Peter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 03, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
The Odemwinge rumours just won't go away. Tonight it is again reported that the oil rich Qatari side Al-Gharafa have made a bid for him. Is this the same story we read about previously, or is it a new bid? If it is, and money talks eventually, then Odemwinge could be on his way.
West Brom manager Steve Clarke says the Baggies have turned down a bid for striker Peter Odemwingie from a non-English club.
The Nigeria international, contracted at the Hawthorns until June 2014, is thought to be on the radar of Qatari side Al-Gharafa this summer.
Clarke says Albion have rejected an offer for the 31-year-old, who joined the Midlanders from Lokomotiv Moscow in 2010.
He told Sky Sports: "There was one bid came in for Peter. It wasn't from an English club and we turned it down, so I think that says enough."
Odemwingie has also been linked with Fulham and Sunderland this summer and Clarke accepts his key players will inevitably attract transfer talk.
"I think you're always going to have speculation about your good players," he added.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 03, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
those quotes were from weeks ago, now apparently Fulham and Southampton are after him, but then i think thats from the sun. right next to the new manager of QPR is the flying spaghetti monster!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 03, 2012, 09:44:22 PM
I think we should take it as a compliment that other teams are coveting our players. It says a lot about how far our squad has progressed. Bottom line is we are under no pressure to sell anyone so it would take top doller. If someone offered £8 to £10 million then at 31 you might have to consider it. Otherwise he's going nowhere.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Marcus on August 04, 2012, 12:36:45 AM
Don't rule out Qatar just yet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Turkish baggie on August 04, 2012, 05:47:29 AM
What ever the pro's and con's of PO ever leaving are, one thing for sure is without a top class goal scorer an team will struggle! Albion will be no different.

Albions history is littered with daft transfers of our strikers when the replacements were inadequate!

Thompson & Bull go and we get garth crooks and varadi! This is the best examples of getting something wrong. Mind you it was that prat saunders!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 04, 2012, 09:43:51 AM
Just heard the Moose on Talksport said he could be on his way to Sunderland for 3 Milliion :o
Victor Anchbe from Everton coming our way(if thats how you spell his name).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 04, 2012, 09:47:15 AM
I just cant see us selling Odemwingie if the club are correct and no fall out has taken place.

Wouldnt be suprised to see Anchiebe as Everton seem to be having a mini clearout.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 04, 2012, 10:14:13 AM
I just cant see us selling Odemwingie if the club are correct and no fall out has taken place.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Anchiebe as Everton seem to be having a mini clearout.
I agree DL,i cant see the club selling one of our best players just before the season starts particularly as its Clarke's first.I wouldn't mind seeing Anchiebe here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on August 04, 2012, 10:16:25 AM
Anichebe is pretty poor from what I've seen of him (yet he always seems to score against us).

We were linked with Connor Wickham earlier in the summer so if there is any truth in the rumour then wouldn't be surprised if we try to do some sort of deal involving him, not sure where people get a 3 million valuation of Odemwingie from though  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 04, 2012, 10:18:42 AM
Anchiebe had a decent season for Everton last year 6 goals in 16 games his best return yet. Hes only 24 so is still developing in my view would offer some good competition for the role Fortune plays.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on August 04, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
Just heard the Moose on Talksport said he could be on his way to Sunderland for 3 Milliion :o
Victor Anchbe from Everton coming our way(if thats how you spell his name).

Ha ha ha - the Moose is prize prat.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 04, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
Just heard the Moose on Talksport said he could be on his way to Sunderland for 3 Milliion :oVictor Anchbe from Everton coming our way(if thats how you spell his name).

£3 million wouldnt buy his boots. >:( it must be a slow day for news.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on August 04, 2012, 12:07:19 PM
Anchiebe had a decent season for Everton last year 6 goals in 16 games his best return yet. Hes only 24 so is still developing in my view would offer some good competition for the role Fortune plays.

weren't half of those goals against us though ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 04, 2012, 12:19:37 PM
He only scored 2 against us so it would still be  4 goals in 14 games last season not that bad a return.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 04, 2012, 01:41:10 PM
Lets face facts if they really want him they will get him as they just have too much money and there would be a limit as to what we could realistically turn down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 04, 2012, 03:43:44 PM
Anichibe is gash.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on August 04, 2012, 03:46:09 PM
Anichibe is gash.

Love your bluntness ha ha!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 04, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
Love your bluntness ha ha!!

I call it like I see it dude!

It doesn't mean I'm right mind, just an opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 05, 2012, 12:54:37 AM
Scored today to rescue the draw, 25-yarder apparently, but hey ho lets sell for £6-8 million when the s*** are turning down bids of £12 million for Fletcher.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 05, 2012, 01:21:11 AM
Sunderland to miss out on striker

Sunderland, 20:11, August 4, 2012

Sunderland's hopes of landing striker Peter Odemwingie from West Brom appear to be coming to an end.
 
Black Cats boss Martin O'Neill has been looking to strengthen his front line all summer after seeing one departure after another from the Stadium of Light but his hopes of landing Odemwingie look to be over.

West Brom boss Steve Clarke has dismissed rumours that Odemwingie is about to leave the club and join a Premier League rival, Fulham have been linked with the player as well as Sunderland.

Qatari club Al-Gharafa made a £4m offer for the striker last month but that was dismissed out of hand by the Baggies chief who says they are not interested in selling the Nigerian international.

He told the Express and Star: "I think you're always going to have speculation about your good players," he said. "It wouldn't be football otherwise, especially with it being the summer when the transfer window is open.
"Your good players are always going to be linked with other clubs. There was one bid that came in for Peter, but it wasn't from an English club. We turned it down - and I think that says enough."

...

Well if you can believe anything reported nowadays............. ::)


http://www.clubcall.com/sunderland/sunderland-to-miss-out-on-striker-1450706.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: darby009 on August 05, 2012, 07:42:04 AM
this thread is frustrating the hell out of me........

please all accept this and stop commenting on "i would sell for this" and "i think he will Go" "Get so and so to replace him".

All we have seen is lazy journalism becaus e nothing is going on, and re-hashed stories......

ODEMWINGIE IS NOT FOR SALE AND IS GOING NO WHERE........ FACT.......

Please close this thread please, its a none story.....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 05, 2012, 11:16:27 AM
this thread is frustrating the hell out of me........

please all accept this and stop commenting on "i would sell for this" and "i think he will Go" "Get so and so to replace him".

All we have seen is lazy journalism becaus e nothing is going on, and re-hashed stories......

ODEMWINGIE IS NOT FOR SALE AND IS GOING NO WHERE........ FACT.......

Please close this thread please, its a none story.....

The whole point of the Transfer Forum and the threads that appear in it are to discuss the RUMOURS that are published in various places so no the thread will not be closed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on August 05, 2012, 07:09:42 PM
this thread is frustrating the hell out of me........

please all accept this and stop commenting on "i would sell for this" and "i think he will Go" "Get so and so to replace him".

All we have seen is lazy journalism becaus e nothing is going on, and re-hashed stories......

ODEMWINGIE IS NOT FOR SALE AND IS GOING NO WHERE........ FACT.......

Please close this thread please, its a none story.....

Better players then Pete have not been for sale and have been sold. Now that's a fact!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on August 06, 2012, 01:37:25 AM
FACT

JP will only sell anybody if it's in the best interests of the club and even then only if the deal is right.

PO is crucial to our team at the present and is on a long contract.

He might be sold but only very reluctantly by JP and that will require (in the classic phrase) a head turning offer.

My guess is JP would laugh at £6m or anything less.

£8M as an initial offer and he might sniff a potential (hard bargained) deal.

Only at £10m does it get serious.

And I still think he'd hold out for £12m

Precedents?

Joe Kamara - £6m and how many Prem goals has he ever scored?

Jonno £6m - and he was the wrong side of 30

Curtis D - £10/11m? (we shall never know) after one good season in the Prem?

In Jeremy we trust!

I seriously doubt that SC, DA or JP has the remotest desire to part with PO
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Webby on August 07, 2012, 12:55:01 PM
Odemwingie, Long, Rosenberg, Fortune.... Happy times ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on August 07, 2012, 04:57:20 PM
Odemwingie, Long, Rosenberg, Fortune.... Happy times ;D

Best forward line we have had in 30 years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 23, 2012, 06:42:19 AM
from the journalistic diamond..The Daily Star

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/268448/Sunderland-and-West-Ham-battle-to-sign-West-Brom-star-Peter-Odemwingie/

SUNDERLAND AND WEST HAM BATTLE TO SIGN WEST BROM STAR PETER ODEMWINGIE
23rd August 2012
By Tim Gray

SUNDERLAND and West Ham are ready to lock horns over Peter Odemwingie after both clubs expressed an interest in the striker.


The 31-year-old has plundered 25 goals in the last two seasons for the Baggies and was again on target in their opening day win over Liverpool.

 Odemwingie was the subject of a bid from Qatari club Al-Gharafa earlier this summer, which was rejected by the Premier League club.

 The Baggies are adamant their valuation will have to be met before the striker is allowed to leave.

 West Ham have been tracking Odemwingie and he has emerged as a leading target after their deal for Andy Carroll hit the buffers.

 Sam Allardyce wants a proven Premier League striker who can supply the goals that will ensure their top-flight status.

 However, he will face competition from the Black Cats, who are assembling a new-look strike force.

 Steven Fletcher has arrived but Asamoah Gyan has been sold and Nicklas Bendtner is back at Arsenal – although he could move to Inter Milan.
...

I'm not sure anymore.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on August 23, 2012, 07:06:47 AM
I said as much a few days ago and was told to stop scaremongering.

I, more than anyone, don't want Odemwingie to leave. However I think it's a distinct possibility given the striking options we have on offer.

Peter has historically not reacted positively to competition for his place. From nuggets I've heard over the past 15 months I sense there is a slight unease between him and the club.

I'm not know and I'm not trying to worry people. I don't want Peter to go. His record over the last 2 years speak for itself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on August 23, 2012, 07:17:49 AM
I don't think he'll be going anywhere and we definitely shouldn't be selling him to another prem club if he is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on August 23, 2012, 07:36:10 AM
Peace won't sell him to either West Ham or Sunderland. Unless it's 10 mill +.

We see this every single season, Odemwingie will still be here come the end of August.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 23, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
West Ham again. Absolute rubbish.Sell Pete and without his goals we will struggle even more so.It wont happen
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 23, 2012, 09:19:00 AM
New contract, new house, new wife, baby on way would suggest he is settled and not looking to move anywhere but these rumours will persist for at least another 8 days because thats what lazy journalists do!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on August 23, 2012, 09:29:43 AM
New contract, new house, new wife, baby on way would suggest he is settled and not looking to move anywhere but these rumours will persist for at least another 8 days because thats what lazy journalists do!
I agree, cant see him going. Just filling column inches at this time of year
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 23, 2012, 09:35:02 AM
West Ham fans think hes only got a year left on his contract and will get him for 1-2 million, can someone go tell them otherwise  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 23, 2012, 09:38:09 AM
There might be interest from West Ham and Sunderland but neither will be prepared to stump up the sort of fee JP will ask for and unless Peter demands a move we are under no pressure to sell. Not going to happen this window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: MICKYMEL on August 23, 2012, 10:28:21 AM
Great news.

Either West ham, media darlings and willing to spend 10m plus on Jarvis or Martin 'pays over the odds' O'neill in the running to sign him.

Dont want to see Pete go AT ALL, but if these two clubs get into a bidding war policed by JP we could be looking at a ridiculous offer we cant turn down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 23, 2012, 10:38:44 AM
Great news.

Either West ham, media darlings and willing to spend 10m plus on Jarvis or Martin 'pays over the odds' O'neill in the running to sign him.

Dont want to see Pete go AT ALL, but if these two clubs get into a bidding war policed by JP we could be looking at a ridiculous offer we cant turn down.


Jeremy i am sure will want to remain in the greed league next season with the extra mega bucks from TV rights to be had. I cant see him at any price selling any of our stars to jeopardise whats on offer next season in the  money world
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Merbals on August 23, 2012, 10:45:45 AM
Well £14M for Fletcher and £10 for Jarvis OMG how much is Podem worth.  Seriously I rate him but if those sort of figures are the going rate then I would seriously look at possibly cashing in for the right price!  BUT only the right plrice!!!

£14M for Podem then straight on the phone to RDM to strike a deal for Lukaku next season!

Thats what you call good business!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on August 23, 2012, 11:18:04 AM
Well £14M for Fletcher and £10 for Jarvis OMG how much is Podem worth.  Seriously I rate him but if those sort of figures are the going rate then I would seriously look at possibly cashing in for the right price!  BUT only the right plrice!!!

£14M for Podem then straight on the phone to RDM to strike a deal for Lukaku next season!

Thats what you call good business!
Lets wait and see how his seaon goes first. I´m sure there are several other options on Danny´s Dynamic Database. ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on August 23, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
Nonsensical to let him go.In 12 months time we would then need at least 2 front line strikers as we will almost certainly not have Lukaku and possibly 3 as Rosenberg is an unknown quantity at this level!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nocky on August 23, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
I said as much a few days ago and was told to stop scaremongering.

I, more than anyone, don't want Odemwingie to leave. However I think it's a distinct possibility given the striking options we have on offer.
Peter has historically not reacted positively to competition for his place. From nuggets I've heard over the past 15 months I sense there is a slight unease between him and the club.

I'm not know and I'm not trying to worry people. I don't want Peter to go. His record over the last 2 years speak for itself.

We have several forward options but Pete is the only one that is really effective in that right wing position. If we are to continue with the 433 system it would be madness to let him go without a direct replacement. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on August 23, 2012, 12:46:04 PM
There might be interest from West Ham and Sunderland but neither will be prepared to stump up the sort of fee JP will ask for and unless Peter demands a move we are under no pressure to sell. Not going to happen this window.
West Ham are after every man and his dog, all summer its been them after so and so. Sunderland may be a  more serious club after PO - but I doubt JP will sell.

The money quoted for Fletcher, Jarvis and Dawson just shows how ridiculous some clubs are run and makes me feel so much better about how ours is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 23, 2012, 01:51:15 PM
I've just got to the point with Pete,Mulumbu,Morrison and any other of our better players that unless i see a transfer request i dont bother reading too much into these things.Clear as day we are a buliding club not a selling club so for me its a non starter,with respect neither Sunderland or West Ham are much of a move up from us if at all are they?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 23, 2012, 01:56:37 PM
Exactly right that is Dexy, if a player is successful he will always be linked with moves elsewhere. I would expect the likes of Sunderland and West Ham to be interested in him but they missed their chance when he signed for us originally, as soon as he did well for us and scored goals he was always going to be out of their reach unless they offer us stupid money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 23, 2012, 03:09:46 PM
We win either way either there is no bid we keep a good player or there is a ridicluous bid we get a huge amount of money for a player for whom we have adequate cover in the squad. However for what it is worth I think there might be interest but nothing very substantial.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 23, 2012, 04:01:50 PM
We win either way either there is no bid we keep a good player or there is a ridicluous bid we get a huge amount of money for a player for whom we have adequate cover in the squad. However for what it is worth I think there might be interest but nothing very substantial.

Did I blink and miss one of our other Strikers proving himself at Premier League level??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 23, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
With Long, Lukaku, Rosenberg and Fortune in the squad I would imagine if we recieve a bid of over 10 million it would have to be considered.

All four players make up very balanced options upfront and ones which most sides would give their right arm for.

All the poster is suggesting is if the price is over inflated we would consider due to the options we have.

I cant see any club willing to pay the money we would want for Odemwingie anyway.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 23, 2012, 04:09:39 PM
depends what you mean by "proving themselves" as Opta stats actually says we are on of the teams LEAST reliant on their strikers (Where be Dragon? ;D) anyway, Long got eight and Fortune got 4(?) in all competitions, not bad for having essentially half seasons. Rosenberg is proven in leagues just as hard as ours. and of course there's Lukaku, so yeah it's not exactly like under RDM where the Pete was the ONLY forward goal scorer most of the time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 23, 2012, 04:31:23 PM
depends what you mean by "proving themselves" as Opta stats actually says we are on of the teams LEAST reliant on their strikers (Where be Dragon? ;D) anyway, Long got eight and Fortune got 4(?) in all competitions, not bad for having essentially half seasons. Rosenberg is proven in leagues just as hard as ours. and of course there's Lukaku, so yeah it's not exactly like under RDM where the Pete was the ONLY forward goal scorer most of the time.

Long made 30+ appearances last season.

He played in La Liga?? When?  ;D

One Premier League goal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 23, 2012, 04:37:33 PM
Rosenberg had nine La Liga goals for Racing Santander in 2010/11.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 23, 2012, 04:43:11 PM
Rosenberg had nine La Liga goals for Racing Santander in 2010/11.

Indeed, so comparable to Long in that respect. The top-scorer that season had 40, although it was Cristiano Ronaldo  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 23, 2012, 04:47:45 PM
With Long, Lukaku, Rosenberg and Fortune in the squad I would imagine if we recieve a bid of over 10 million it would have to be considered.

All four players make up very balanced options upfront and ones which most sides would give their right arm for.

All the poster is suggesting is if the price is over inflated we would consider due to the options we have.

I cant see any club willing to pay the money we would want for Odemwingie anyway.


I could - both West Ham and Sunderland have far more money than sense if Hammers are paying £10m for Jarvis and Sunderland are paying £12m for Fletcher!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 23, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
Jarvis and Fletcher are 26 and 25 that make the fees rise. With Odemwingie hes 32 in a years time I cant see him attracting that sort of fee solely down to his age.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 23, 2012, 05:00:58 PM
Did I blink and miss one of our other Strikers proving himself at Premier League level??

Well to be fair strikers dont finish 10th and 11th in the league..teams do. So as long as the team is performing to near its potential and it obviously has the last two seasons then really you would probably have to say we have adequate cover. Thats not to say of course that at least one of them in any given season has to step up and bag a few goals or they all have to spread the goals between them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Webby on August 23, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
As good as the other 3 strikers are (I am excited), technically Odemwingie is the only proven PL goalscorer so can't see us letting that go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 23, 2012, 05:45:46 PM
Selling Pete would be suicide. Every team is looking for a striker who can hit double figures at least. He's managed it two seasons running. Lukaku and Rosenberg have the potential to do well but have proved nothing in this league yet. Without Pete I reckon we'd be in the Championship now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on August 23, 2012, 05:53:05 PM
Jarvis and Fletcher are 26 and 25 that make the fees rise. With Odemwingie hes 32 in a years time I cant see him attracting that sort of fee solely down to his age.

So if the fee is not a 'crazy' one at least on a par with Fletcher then there is no reason to even consider selling our first 'proper' Premiership striker. It would be madness to sell him anyway but a stupid fee could see major reinvestment maybe ?

Personally, I'm really excited by our attacking options but Pete is still the number one proven marksman and so to sell him would see us seriously weakened.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 23, 2012, 05:57:40 PM
Jarvis and Fletcher are 26 and 25 that make the fees rise. With Odemwingie hes 32 in a years time I cant see him attracting that sort of fee solely down to his age.

That's exactly my point - but West Ham are certainly mad enough to spend money they haven't got, on players at inflated prices.  If they were come up with £10m, which I agree is way over the odds, then I suspect JP would struggle to turn it down. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on August 23, 2012, 06:16:20 PM
I thinks our fans are overly concerned when our players are linked to other clubs. When is the last time we have sold a key player whilst we've been a premiership club? Earnshaw maybe. Really we've never sold our best players when we've been a premiership club - If we do it will be for ridiculous money.

If we got an offer of over 8million I think we would find it hard to turn it down. He is a great player but one of his main attributes is pace, which will no doubt start to decline soon when you consider his age. I doubt it's true though - Odemwingie isn't that tall and last time I checked Big Sam was their manager.  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: westbrom4ever on August 23, 2012, 08:18:31 PM
He is by far our best player but a realistic fee for him would be around 2-3 million when you take into consideration his age etc.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 23, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
He is by far our best player but a realistic fee for him would be around 2-3 million when you take into consideration his age etc.

Nowadays there are no such things as a 'realistic' fee. PO is worth far more to us than £3 million. Selling him, especially to a direct rival, would seriously jeopardize our survival.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on August 23, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
He is by far our best player but a realistic fee for him would be around 2-3 million when you take into consideration his age etc.

But as we have no reason to sell and would be serously weakened our first eleven then that small amount of money is worth nothing to us ! 
Just think how much the club would lose if we fail to stay at this level ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 24, 2012, 05:04:35 PM
Sky Sports is repeating Fulham interest in Odemwingie. It suggests that an offer might be on the table once they offload Clint Dempsie to Liverpool. The Sky Sports website adds: Baggies boss Steve Clarke now faces a fight to hold onto his striker but the Midlands outfit are determined he will only leave if their valuation is met.
My hunch is that once we receive a £6m plus offer then the striker will be on his way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on August 24, 2012, 05:11:08 PM
He is by far our best player but a realistic fee for him would be around 2-3 million when you take into consideration his age etc.

2 to 3 million :o for a proven goalscorer in the prem.
That sort of offer wouldn't get to first base especially with Mr Peace.
As stated start at 6mill and take it from there. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 24, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
Fletcher goes for £14m then Odemwingie goes for £6m............................Rocking Horse Poo
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on August 24, 2012, 05:33:36 PM
We cant let him go yet as it would be to much of a gamble, I say wait until the next transfer window for
us to see if Rosenberg,Lukaku, and Long can cut the mustard .
I dont even know why he`d consider moving from the Albion as we`ll going to be a top 6 team.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 24, 2012, 05:34:03 PM
Well if he goes i fear for our survival.Whos going to get his potential goals then
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 24, 2012, 05:45:17 PM
We have several forward options but Pete is the only one that is really effective in that right wing position. If we are to continue with the 433 system it would be madness to let him go without a direct replacement.

Cant agree Nocky. Gera and Fortune can both play this position as can Morrison at a push.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 24, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Fletcher goes for £14m then Odemwingie goes for £6m............................Rocking Horse Poo

Aye. £6 million is nothing to us compared with PO's goals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on August 24, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
im sure JP will price him out of anyone's reach. the way the club is run means we wont be railroaded into selling any of our players unless they want to go of course
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 24, 2012, 05:56:13 PM
I thought he was settled, new home,wife, baby etc.Is all this just rubbish again or is there any substance
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 24, 2012, 05:58:46 PM
I thought he was settled, new home,wife, baby etc.Is all this just rubbish again or is there any substance

Normal rubbish. I'm sure lots of clubs want PO, I'm equally sure none will meet JP's evaluation because they would be taken to the cleaners worse then O'Neill was.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 24, 2012, 05:59:59 PM
Cant agree Nocky. Gera and Fortune can both play this position as can Morrison at a push.
They can play in the position but they dont carry the same threat in terms of pace, trickery and ability to finish with either foot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on August 24, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
Really would be a big blow for our season, if he was to go now.  I hope its just another rubbish rumour.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 24, 2012, 06:20:15 PM
They can play in the position but they dont carry the same threat in terms of pace, trickery and ability to finish with either foot.

Not sure Gera would agree with you after Saturdays corker!.................. ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 24, 2012, 06:21:52 PM
I remain to be convinced how effective he'll be playing wide right, as I don't think he likes playing there very much and he can become a bit anonymous if he's not 100% motivated.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 24, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
I remain to be convinced how effective he'll be playing wide right, as I don't think he likes playing there very much and he can become a bit anonymous if he's not 100% motivated.

Personally I think Odemwingie is better than Long up top, but Long is many times worse than Odemwingie on the right so Peter ends up playing on the right by default.

However, I believe in the new system with more or less three centerforwards on the left, center and right none of them will play as a traditional winger. That is why we are looking at fast fullbacks like Martin Olsson.

A final point, Liverpool made sure there was no space for Odemwingie to operate in on the right. They had a lot of bodies there so there simply was nowhere for him to run and speed is PO's best weapon as we know. Gera and Ridgewell had a far easier time going forward as the Liverpool right wasn't as congested. Unfortunately Gera looks to have lost a step, if not his quality, after the injuries.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 24, 2012, 06:39:35 PM
Personally I think Odemwingie is better than Long up top, but Long is many times worse than Odemwingie on the right so Peter ends up playing on the right by default.

However, I believe in the new system with more or less three centerforwards on the left, center and right none of them will play as a traditional winger. That is why we are looking at fast fullbacks like Martin Olsson.

A final point, Liverpool made sure there was no space for Odemwingie to operate in on the right. They had a lot of bodies there so there simply was nowhere for him to run and speed is PO's best weapon as we know. Gera and Ridgewell had a far easier time going forward as the Liverpool right wasn't as congested. Unfortunately Gera looks to have lost a step, if not his quality, after the injuries.

I dont really compare Long and PO as centre forwards as they are totally different types of players each able to do a good job there in their own way. I think a lot will depend on the tactics for any given match as to how SC uses them
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 24, 2012, 06:42:41 PM
Personally I think Odemwingie is better than Long up top, but Long is many times worse than Odemwingie on the right so Peter ends up playing on the right by default.

However, I believe in the new system with more or less three centerforwards on the left, center and right none of them will play as a traditional winger. That is why we are looking at fast fullbacks like Martin Olsson.

A final point, Liverpool made sure there was no space for Odemwingie to operate in on the right. They had a lot of bodies there so there simply was nowhere for him to run and speed is PO's best weapon as we know. Gera and Ridgewell had a far easier time going forward as the Liverpool right wasn't as congested. Unfortunately Gera looks to have lost a step, if not his quality, after the injuries.

I agree with everything you posted apart from Gera losing a step. It's going to take Gera a few weeks to get back to his best. He's had an awful time with injuries, but as he doesn't rely on pace more on his natural ability and intelligence, he should get back to his best soon.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on August 24, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
Only think about selling Pete if he generated enough funds to sign Lukaku. Which he wouldn't!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 24, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
We've waited years to find a goalscorer in this division, now we have one we're not suddenly going to let him go. Even though we live in an inflated market, I just cannot see clubs willing to stump up the money we would want for a 31 year old. If they did, well, then, they're just plain stupid to be honest. It is, in my opinion, that Peter Odemwingie is without doubt the best player at this football club and keeping him should have been another priority this summer. The fact he signed an improved contract last season means we hold all the cards and if West Ham and Sunderland are serious about him then they better make their move quickly.

We sold goalscorers in recent times and never replaced them. I don't think JP would wish to make that mistake at a time when his reputation is high with the supporters.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on August 25, 2012, 09:41:15 AM
I would be dismayed if we sold him or Shane Long and for whatever the money.This is the best squad we have had for years and we should be improving it not weakening it.

Pete drives me up the wall with his attitude at times,but he is a better scorer than Fletcher imo.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: cads_ap_albion on August 25, 2012, 12:48:49 PM
I would be dismayed if we sold him or Shane Long and for whatever the money.This is the best squad we have had for years and we should be improving it not weakening it.

Pete drives me up the wall with his attitude at times,but he is a better scorer than Fletcher imo.

Pete also has the one attribute that we lack too much.... Pace.

It is an area you can see that Clarke has tried to address, and for that reason long and pete cannot go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Reddiebaggie on August 25, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
Odemwingie not in starting line up today Ominous.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: michaelwh on August 25, 2012, 02:30:05 PM
Injured and doesnt play today.Anybody aware of what the injury is.Sounds like a classic case of not wanting to got injured before transfer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on August 25, 2012, 02:32:11 PM
He has a groin injury picked up in training.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: michaelwh on August 25, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
As much as I hate his attitude,the team just doesn't carry the same threat without him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on August 25, 2012, 02:43:20 PM
Injured and doesnt play today.Anybody aware of what the injury is.Sounds like a classic case of not wanting to got injured before transfer.

what transfer?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on August 25, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
I've not read or heard any clubs after over the last couple of days either. I hope is injury isnt that bad.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on August 25, 2012, 02:55:01 PM
When any other player is injured they're injured, but when Peter 'attitude' Odemwingie is injured he's just faking it because he's moving to another club. There's no way he could have actually picked up an injury in training like players often do, what an absurd idea.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: socalbaggie on August 25, 2012, 03:02:25 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11681/8015277

Fulham looking for a replacement for Dempsey. In the SC pre match interview Thursday or Friday he mentioned nothing of injured players. He did say a few minor knocks but had ecpected to have a full squad to choose from. Deep down I don't think he's going anywhere but with PO I always have that little doubt and wonder. Anyway for another day let get something today!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on August 25, 2012, 05:53:48 PM
sunderland, fulham and west ham have all been sniffing around pete, if they are willing to meet jp,s asking price of 10 million plus then somthing might happen and i dont think we will bring in any other forward with players at our disposal. that fee could go towards to defenders that in my opinion we need. but i dont want pete to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on August 25, 2012, 06:32:59 PM
Clarke confirmed in a post-match interview that he suffered a thigh strain in training on Thursday. He's injured. No big conspiracy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 25, 2012, 06:34:28 PM
Pete certainly does have a lot of last-minute leg injuries.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 25, 2012, 07:03:53 PM
Somebody claiming on twitter that he's gone to Fulham for £10m. I know that means nothing but I thought I'd let you know. Personally I doubt it but that would be a lot to turn down.

Don't shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on August 25, 2012, 07:19:51 PM
Somebody claiming on twitter that he's gone to Fulham for £10m. I know that means nothing but I thought I'd let you know. Personally I doubt it but that would be a lot to turn down.

Don't shoot the messenger.
Let me guess, is it a someone called something like 'ITK TRANSFER193' who claims to be a football agent?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggy nerd on August 25, 2012, 11:27:39 PM
When any other player is injured they're injured, but when Peter 'attitude' Odemwingie is injured he's just faking it because he's moving to another club. There's no way he could have actually picked up an injury in training like players often do, what an absurd idea.
Seems to happen quite often though!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on August 25, 2012, 11:33:18 PM
Someone on another thread is saying man has never walked on the moon, over here people are suggesting Pete isn't injured, it's all a lie and he is leaving. People love conspiracy theories don't they?  Hopefully he will be back for the Everton game.

I can't believe one of our best player in recent times gets so much criticism.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 26, 2012, 12:54:15 AM
Let me guess, is it a someone called something like 'ITK TRANSFER193' who claims to be a football agent?

Do you think I'm that thick?

Genuine baggies fan who got told by someone he knows.

Just passing on rumours as is the point of this board.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 26, 2012, 01:08:37 AM
Think he's got some bad info there mate  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 26, 2012, 01:13:06 AM
Think he's got some bad info there mate  ;D

Quite possibly, I was just passing on what I'd heard though. As I said in the original post, I doubted it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 26, 2012, 01:16:44 AM
Quite possibly, I was just passing on what I'd heard though. As I said in the original post, I doubted it.

No probs, what the thread is for fella!

To go into it in more depth. I don't think Fulham "need" him and therefore wouldn't offer eight figures. I don't think Odemwingie is looking to leave for anyone other than top 4 plus Liverpool and Chelsea. And finally I'm not sure, after Fletcher's fee, that Peace would accept £10 million anyway.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 26, 2012, 01:40:14 PM
No probs, what the thread is for fella!

To go into it in more depth. I don't think Fulham "need" him and therefore wouldn't offer eight figures. I don't think Odemwingie is looking to leave for anyone other than top 4 plus Liverpool and Chelsea. And finally I'm not sure, after Fletcher's fee, that Peace would accept £10 million anyway.

A lot depends on what happens at Fulham this week if they get raided for Dembele as well as Dempsey they might panic at the end of the week and stump up a ridiculous sum for a ready made replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 02:19:43 PM
Nobody will pay 10 mill for Pete. He isn't even garunteed a place in our starting line up...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on August 26, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
I know I wouldnt pay ten million for Pete, I would say he is only worth 5 million.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 26, 2012, 03:00:29 PM
Nobody will pay 10 mill for Pete. He isn't even garunteed a place in our starting line up...

I actually think he is guaranteed a place in the side, if the alternative is Fortune wide right then I don't think he has much to worry about.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 26, 2012, 03:03:20 PM
I know I wouldnt pay ten million for Pete, I would say he is only worth 5 million.

If he carries on getting 10 a season then his goals could be worth so much more to us than £5m come the end of the season. We don't need or want to sell him so I don't believe he will leave this summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
I actually think he is guaranteed a place in the side, if the alternative is Fortune wide right then I don't think he has much to worry about.

Nobodys garanteed a place in the squad.. He'd be my first choice but that doesn't mean its garanteed..
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 26, 2012, 03:14:19 PM
I still think he is as long as he remains fit, just my opinion mind you. I would hope he is pressured for his place but as I said if the alternative is Fortune for that role I don't think he has anything to worry about.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 04:12:49 PM
I think he should be garenteed a place he is a handfull for full backs... Fortune does more work but can't finish wich is a shame.. But I still feel we have goals when pete doesn't play wich must be good... Come on you albion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggybazza on August 26, 2012, 04:33:57 PM
In my opinion Pistol Pete is worth a lot more tham £10 Million...looking at the facts  The dingles are getting  12 million  :o for fletcher and our pete is a natural goal scorer!!.........................so i dont think even it his age the asking price should be below £15 million!!!! :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
No way is Pete worth 15 mill he's 30-31.... Van Persie was only 22 million Pete ain't worth more than 5..
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 26, 2012, 05:01:03 PM
No way is Pete worth 15 mill he's 30-31.... Van Persie was only 22 million Pete ain't worth more than 5..

2 seasons at the level he has played the previous 2 would definately put him in the 15mil bracket. If we don't get 10 million+, he won't go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 05:09:30 PM
No chance he's only worth what clubs are offering to pay..... 4 mill was turned down and haven't heard a peep since.... 15 million for Pete... Come on were not wolves fans be realstic...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 26, 2012, 05:16:42 PM
Lets get this right as long as we get more than we paid for him, JP will be happy. I could be wrong but cant see him going anywhere just yet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on August 26, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
People are confusing what he's worth as a player with what he's worth to the club. As a player 5 million is about right, but he's worth at least twice that to the club. A bag of crisps is only worth about 50p but if you wanted to buy a pack from a starving man then you'd have to pay a lot more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 26, 2012, 05:33:24 PM
We have no reason to sell. As far as we know the player is happy here despite people continually saying he isn't interested when playing for us, we don't want to lose him and we don't want to strengthen any of our competitors. As long as Peter doesn't come out and state that he wants to leave then we can quote any price we want for him, he has plenty of time left on his contract and as I mentioned before if he carries on as he has the last two seasons and gets 10+ goals then he will be worth much more to us as a club than the £5m, £10m or even £15m people seem to be willing to let him go for.

You have to ask yourself who we can get to replace him considering he's our only proven goalscorer at this level for the kind of money being mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 05:33:50 PM
Nice point there mate makes sense to me...  Pete is staying at the Albion he won't go anywere... Apart from bob Taylor he's the best forward iv seen at the Albion.... Only 20 though
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WoysWunderful on August 26, 2012, 05:38:01 PM
Like people have mentioned, what he is actually worth as a player isnt the same as what he is worth to west brom. We have no financial need to sell him, and we all know what our jezza is like, so id guess the club values him around 12 million? Unless somebody panics and offers over the odds for him, i cant see him going anywhere.

I would be slightly worried if we sold him at this later stage of the window, but with how DA opperates i think we could get an adequate replacement in.

Im not that worried about goals this year as the fridge looks dangerous and i think will easily make double figures if stays fit. Long will probably get the same amount as he did last year as it seems SC is ging to use him alot but as more of a holding striker and the midfield has been chipping in lots of goals for seasons now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 26, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
People are confusing what he's worth as a player with what he's worth to the club. As a player 5 million is about right, but he's worth at least twice that to the club. A bag of crisps is only worth about 50p but if you wanted to buy a pack from a starving man then you'd have to pay a lot more.

Bit like my local garage then................and there usually stale
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on August 26, 2012, 09:18:54 PM
If we got £12-£15m it would soften the blow.  Realistically though we'll be getting rid of a 15 goal a season striker, replacing him will be difficult.  Look at the price of Fletcher, Moses, Carroll, etc, none of them as good as Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on August 26, 2012, 10:05:19 PM
Why sell him to Sunderland or Fulham?If we are to sell him we should flog him only to a club in another country.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on August 26, 2012, 10:14:20 PM
I'm slightly confused why people think we'd sell our only proven goalscorer.

Who else is going to provide the goals?

Long - As much as i admire his effort and contribution to the team, there's still a question mark as to whether he can score regularly in the PL.

Fortune - A very good player who contributes well to the team, but isn't the type of player who puts the ball in the net often.

Lukaku - looks very positive, and will cause teams problems, we shall see how well he does across a whole season.

Rosenberg - yet to see him really so can't really be judged.

For me, we have to keep Pete, and see no reason why the club would sell him, especially so close to the end of the window.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Astle1968 on August 26, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
All this talk of pete 'wanting' to leave. In the last year theres been firm bids from Wigan and Al Gharafa, confirmed interest from Sunderland, Fulham and West Ham plus rumoured interest from Arsenal and a host of other clubs. If Odemwingie doesnt want to be here he would of left by now. Thats not to say if someone comes in tomorrow and offers gim 80k a week he wont leave but I cant see why people think he is angling for a move. Players hold all the power with transfers and Pete has never asked to leave. Unless someone comes in with silly money he will still be here next week, same with all our other players
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 26, 2012, 10:16:57 PM
Why sell him to Sunderland or Fulham?If we are to sell him we should flog him only to a club in another country.

Quite Divine......sell him only for him to relegate us last game of the season. Sound decision eh!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionmybabys on August 26, 2012, 10:20:41 PM
Pete's personal situation with his wife been pregnant is another reason he ain't going nowhere. Id be shocked if he went and gutted but I think its safe to say he won't go....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on August 27, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
On another website it says he wants out'don't shoot the messenger.
The papers on Friday said we had a full squad to pick from,then on Saturday we here ODW picked up an injury on Thursday.
When all the players are fit i see Rom and Rosenberg as first choice and given his past record he dosen't seem the type to fight for his place.
The team have tremendous team spirit apart from ODW.
It's great to have 5 players to choose from upfront but only if those players want to be here and give of their best when on the pitch.

Regarding the question he is our only proven prem goalscorer i have no doubts we will score more goals this season with or without ODW.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on August 27, 2012, 08:39:02 AM
On another website it says he wants out'don't shoot the messenger.
The papers on Friday said we had a full squad to pick from,then on Saturday we here ODW picked up an injury on Thursday.
When all the players are fit i see Rom and Rosenberg as first choice and given his past record he dosen't seem the type to fight for his place.
The team have tremendous team spirit apart from ODW.
It's great to have 5 players to choose from upfront but only if those players want to be here and give of their best when on the pitch.

Regarding the question he is our only proven prem goalscorer i have no doubts we will score more goals this season with or without ODW.
I saw CL and Steve Madeley tweeting about this last night. The assumption that Pete wants to leave came from some poorly researched journalist on talksport. Unfortunately, with the way the world of football news is currently, this will filter through to the press and become a 'story'.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 27, 2012, 08:49:06 AM
On another website it says he wants out'don't shoot the messenger.
The papers on Friday said we had a full squad to pick from,then on Saturday we here ODW picked up an injury on Thursday.
When all the players are fit i see Rom and Rosenberg as first choice and given his past record he dosen't seem the type to fight for his place.
The team have tremendous team spirit apart from ODW.
It's great to have 5 players to choose from upfront but only if those players want to be here and give of their best when on the pitch.

Regarding the question he is our only proven prem goalscorer i have no doubts we will score more goals this season with or without ODW.

Yawn.

So some lazy talksport 'journalist' has been reading some 'Nigerian blog' or something flogging PO off to 'Arsenal' or somewhere as their solution to their 'goal scoring crisis'. Then the bored/ADHD Twits pick up on lazy talksport 'journalist' blathering and then suddenly PO is 'lazy', 'greedy' and 'has no team spirit'.

Good lord we've been here before and it has always proved to be people speaking out their behinds. All hot air and no proof whatsoever. This sniping at PO is pathetic.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on August 27, 2012, 09:29:12 AM
Yawn.

So some lazy talksport 'journalist' has been reading some 'Nigerian blog' or something flogging PO off to 'Arsenal' or somewhere as their solution to their 'goal scoring crisis'. Then the bored/ADHD Twits pick up on lazy talksport 'journalist' blathering and then suddenly PO is 'lazy', 'greedy' and 'has no team spirit'.

Good lord we've been here before and it has always proved to be people speaking out their behinds. All hot air and no proof whatsoever. This sniping at PO is pathetic.

I don't personally take any notice of talkshite,i was talking about another baggie site and the comment about wanting out was made by one of our players according to another poster.
He is not a look at me type but down to earth poster.
As i stated'don't shoot the messenger' just sharing what could be inside information,take it or leave it as you see fit.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on August 27, 2012, 10:06:08 AM
On another website it says he wants out'don't shoot the messenger.
The papers on Friday said we had a full squad to pick from,then on Saturday we here ODW picked up an injury on Thursday.
When all the players are fit i see Rom and Rosenberg as first choice and given his past record he dosen't seem the type to fight for his place.
The team have tremendous team spirit apart from ODW.
It's great to have 5 players to choose from upfront but only if those players want to be here and give of their best when on the pitch.

Regarding the question he is our only proven prem goalscorer i have no doubts we will score more goals this season with or without ODW.

Speculation. Might be true might not but not seen any hard evidence to support that
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kie the baggie on August 27, 2012, 10:07:27 AM
if he wanted to leave why would he sign a new EXTENDED contract last year when he could of quite easily been sold for a nice profit. every transfer window we get told he wants to leave, like last here just let it go through one ear and out the other.

watch him sign for west ham now LOL  ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on August 27, 2012, 10:43:34 AM
contracts mean sod all these days though kie, sadly. players should be tied down to their contracts but we all know that doesnt happen. you could be 3 months or 3 years into your contract, and you are still vulnerable to getting swooped up by a bigger club. i think odemwingie is on his way, all this suspicious 'not being available on saturday' and the will he, wont he for some time adds to my beliefs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 27, 2012, 11:02:20 AM
We will almost certainly let Odemwingie go sometime during the next two years although I think it is unlikely to be now but it would be foolish to completely rule out the possibility.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kie the baggie on August 27, 2012, 11:04:05 AM
contracts mean sod all these days though kie, sadly. players should be tied down to their contracts but we all know that doesnt happen. you could be 3 months or 3 years into your contract, and you are still vulnerable to getting swooped up by a bigger club. i think odemwingie is on his way, all this suspicious 'not being available on saturday' and the will he, wont he for some time adds to my beliefs.

i do get you about the contract thing but if you wanted out then surely you wouldnt sign especially an extension as it would harm your chances of a club getting you on a free. if pete is on his way as is getting suggested i dont think we would miss him like we would of last year, although he has been a fantastic player for us. we have 5 quality strikers vying for 1 or 2 positions and trying to keep them all happy is going to be difficult. in a way it would make sense but i hope he stays and i think he will, although its proberbly because im used to the speculation surrounded pete in every window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 27, 2012, 11:36:59 AM
Pete WAS injured.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 27, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
Pete WAS injured.


Baggie79 thats good enough for me.
His he likely to be out long do you know.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on August 27, 2012, 12:23:29 PM
if fulham or sunderland wanted him then i would sell him. sunderland can have him for £6 million plus kieran richardson, fulham can have him in a swap for haangeland.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on August 27, 2012, 01:35:04 PM
I hope that the rumours about him not getting on with the players and SC are groundless,but they say there is no smoke without fire.

Until the transfer window closes when players pull out with an injury,there will always be speculation.

Roll on the weekend.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 27, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
Odemwingie has lost a great deal of playing time in the past year or two because of injuries. As he is now at an age when players seem to get a growing amount of injuries it may be a good time to cash in - while he is worth something.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on August 27, 2012, 01:46:15 PM
We should only even think about selling Pete if we have a replacement lined up before the end of the transfer window. And he would have to be a 15 goals a season man. The only one that springs to mind is Lukaku.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on August 27, 2012, 01:57:03 PM
i just dont get why we need to sell a player that has reliably scored 10-15 goals a season for us. it just makes sense to keep hold of them
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 27, 2012, 04:03:50 PM
I hope that the rumours about him not getting on with the players and SC are groundless,but they say there is no smoke without fire.

Where have these rumours come from though? All I've heard it based on is no one celebrated with him when he scored his penalty against Liverpool, I'm pretty sure they all knew what his celebration meant to him sending a message to his wife so they let him have his moment.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on August 27, 2012, 04:25:34 PM
i just dont get why we need to sell a player that has reliably scored 10-15 goals a season for us. it just makes sense to keep hold of them

Spot on !

Only a massive amount of cash that would be reinvested in the team would be worth considering - even then we would not be able to afford the fee/wages for a ten goal plus replacement.

A fee of £6-7m would not mean anything to the imapct of losing our Prem status due to lack of goals.

Remember that it's taken the club over a decade to find a serious goal scorer at this level so to let him go so easily would be foolish and short-sighted.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Smooth Lad on August 27, 2012, 10:37:05 PM
Where have these rumours come from though? All I've heard it based on is no one celebrated with him when he scored his penalty against Liverpool, I'm pretty sure they all knew what his celebration meant to him sending a message to his wife so they let him have his moment.

Precisely and in this video from 6:00 onwards, even if it is from 4 months ago, certainly doesn't look like he doesn;t get on with anyone.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 27, 2012, 11:15:37 PM
Goals equals points, points equals survival, survival equals moolah. We'd need a lot of moolah to make it worth selling our best goal scorer.

Besides, I want to see a forward three of Rosenberg, Lukaku, Odemwingie running at opposing defences. ^_^

Much more interesting than Rosenberg, Lukaku, Long :/ 

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on August 27, 2012, 11:21:14 PM

Besides, I want to see a forward three of Rosenberg, Lukaku, Odemwingie running at opposing defences. ^_^



That's mouthwatering.

Would love to see us bring them all on with 30 mins to go and watch the opposition defenders c*** themselves.   ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on August 31, 2012, 11:25:13 PM
Can we now safely that he missed the Tottenham game because he was definitely actually genuinely injured, not because he was being sold to Fulham/Sunderland/West Ham/some Russian side/that Qatari club/Arsenal/Juventus/Tom/Richard/Harry?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on August 31, 2012, 11:27:51 PM
Can we now safely that he missed the Tottenham game because he was definitely actually genuinely injured, not because he was being sold to Fulham/Sunderland/West Ham/some Russian side/that Qatari club/Arsenal/Juventus/Tom/Richard/Harry?

The Russian transfer window is still open  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lloydy on September 01, 2012, 12:56:09 PM
Another window passes by and our best striker remains at the club. He is happy to be here, there are no problems, so how's about we all stop moaning about our most proven top flight striker in 30 years and give him some support?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 01, 2012, 06:03:31 PM
This topic is to discuss transfer rumours, its not for people to post sarcastic comments with the intention of getting a response from people. Keep that for Facebook not this site.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on September 01, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
Another window passes by and our best striker remains at the club. He is happy to be here, there are no problems, so how's about we all stop moaning about our most proven top flight striker in 30 years and give him some support?

Music to my ears LLoydy. Dont know why he is being questioned really. He is a bloody brilliant striker one of the best we have ever had.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 01, 2012, 11:25:07 PM
Another window passes by and our best striker remains at the club. He is happy to be here, there are no problems, so how's about we all stop moaning about our most proven top flight striker in 30 years and give him some support?

Crazy something like this even needs to be posted. Viva Osaze.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on September 03, 2012, 01:31:03 AM
Agree with Lloydy.

PO is our best since Cunningham and Regis.

He's one of the few since those heady days who might have merited a place in the class of 78/9
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on September 03, 2012, 02:31:43 PM
From what I know some of the rumours about Odemwingie not being popular within the dressing room have come from someone who people believe is 'ITK' off this site. 

I know for a fact this is complete garbage, anyone who frequents the Mailbox regularly on a lunch time will see Odemwingie having lunch with 4-5 team mates, I've heard suggestions on here that he doesn't get on with Long when again I know for a fact that he and Long along with Thomas and Dorrans were out in Mayfair not so long ago.  Furthermore there was an interview with him on the official site, he was asked about who his best friend was at the club, his reply was... Shane Long!

A small group of people have an agenda against him, I don't understand it and its pathetic.  I've heard there is an interview with him in one of the papers either today or tomorrow which is his take on all the speculation surrounding him over the summer, I'm sure its going to be another story which is going to make these 'ITK'ers look silly.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 03, 2012, 02:53:06 PM
To be honest, I haven't seen anything on here about him not getting on with players. There are only a couple of genuine people ITK on this site and again i've not seen anything from them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 03, 2012, 03:03:30 PM
Found that article in the E&S Signor

Peter Odemwingie admits he ‘wanted to leave Albion’
Monday 3rd September 2012, 2:51PM BST.


Peter Odemwingie

West Bromwich Albion star Peter Odemwingie today admitted that he wanted to leave The Hawthorns this summer.

The striker lifted the lid on months of speculation surrounding his future and revealed how new boss Steve Clarke convinced him to stay. And the Nigeria international insisted he has now put thoughts of a move behind him and rediscovered his hunger for the Premier League.

“Summer was a time when, at my age, I had second thoughts about continuing to play at this level,” said the 31-year-old, who was the subject of a failed bid from Qatari club Al-Gharafa.

“I thought there would be nothing new for me at West Brom and I gave it a try (asked about leaving) to see what would happen.

“But the club said that it was too early for me to go and they thought I could play an important role for them and keep playing.

“Then pre-season started and I got hungry again for Premier League action and I forgot about it.”

Odemwingie, who hit 15 goals in his first Premier League campaign two seasons ago, signed a money-spinning three-year contract last summer and responded with a further 10 goals last term.

But he questioned his future at the end of the season and told new head coach Clarke about his doubts, although Odemwingie has dismissed a story claiming a training-ground bust-up between the pair in the wake of Al-Gharafa’s bid.

“I don’t know where that came from,” he said. “People would have seen afterwards if there was a problem.

“We sat down and had a normal talk. He was the new coach and he said ‘give me a few weeks and see how we work, because we’re ambitious for this year’.

“I said I would give it a couple of weeks and after that I was enjoying training and it looked like it was going to be an interesting season, so I forgot about the offer.”

Odemwingie created the opening goal for Shane Long in Saturday’s 2-0 win against Everton – a result that kept the Baggies unbeaten under Clarke and took them third in the Premier League. “I am happy for Shane because the run he made was that of a determined striker,” he added.



Read more: http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/09/03/peter-odemwingie-admits-he-wanted-to-leave-albion/#ixzz25Pnxbhla
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on September 03, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
I respect that. Perfectly normal for a footballer i'd imagine to have such a chat with a new coach.

If he's looking for a new challenge and maybe one last 3 year contract somewhere like an Arab state next summer then so-long adn cheers.

We've got him for this season. Lets hope we can finish top 10 again and attact another quality player to replace him!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on September 03, 2012, 04:12:18 PM
I for one am completely underwhelmed by these comments from him. If you want an insight into why his form tends to dip after a couple of years when he's been at a club, you don't need to look any further than what he's saying here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
I for one am completely underwhelmed by these comments from him. If you want an insight into why his form tends to dip after a couple of years when he's been at a club, you don't need to look any further than what he's saying here.

This is such a myth, the fact he got progressively bigger moves hardly indicates his form dipping at all his clubs, then at Lokomotiv, well it didn't seem the greatest of places for him. Then at us it was always unlikely he'd match the exceedingly high standard of the first year but he's hardly played badly for us. Indeed the only player we've had to hit double figures in consecutive seasons in the top division in however many years.

The guy's honest about his intentions, that rubs a few people up the wrong way. All he's saying is what a lot of players will be doing behind the scenes when they're publicly saying how much they love a club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on September 03, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
this is a job for him yes he's well paid for doing it but still a job, also it's not only his goals we would miss but the amount of chances he sets up
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on September 03, 2012, 04:56:12 PM
I for one am completely underwhelmed by these comments from him. If you want an insight into why his form tends to dip after a couple of years when he's been at a club, you don't need to look any further than what he's saying here.

I appreciate his honesty. Are you always 100% happy and satisfied at your work place? I think he acted properly.  Would you prefer players to be dishonest, perhaps Paul Robinson is more of your cup of tea, spent a summer trying to engineer a move for himself in a distasteful fashion and when those moves collapsed released a statement about his loyalty to the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 03, 2012, 05:11:45 PM
He is of they type that thinks there is allways better around the corner, it happens in all walks of life. Pete does seem more settled here than he has been at any of his previous clubs though, i think that banner did more good than it ever got credit for.

Well done to Clarke for persuading him otherwise.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 03, 2012, 05:14:59 PM
Found that article in the E&S Signor

Peter Odemwingie admits he ‘wanted to leave Albion’
Monday 3rd September 2012, 2:51PM BST.

Read more: http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/09/03/peter-odemwingie-admits-he-wanted-to-leave-albion/#ixzz25Pnxbhla
It would probably have been best if he kept that to himself since people are bound to take it the wrong way without reading the article properly or just use it as another excuse to persecute him, that's why most footballers just give generic answers in interviews or shun the press entirely, but I admire his honesty. It sounds like he simply got a bit down on himself, it happens to the best of us. He lost a bit of confidence, thought he couldn't hack it in the Premier League any more and thought it would be best if he moved away. I can't see anything wrong with what he's said, it's not like he's saying West Brom aren't good enough for him or whatever. It seems however his fears were quickly allayed and his confidence restored after a couple of weeks in training, so there's no problem any more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 03, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
If i'm right journos don't write the headline that's left to others which is why they seldom reflect the article.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on September 03, 2012, 06:34:08 PM
I think Pete had his head turned by middle east money.The i'm not sure if i can perform at this level anymore simply doesn't wash.
So if Arsenal had come in he would have said the same.

Nice try Pete but too old in the tooth me.


But,if he is hungry to play again for us that has to be good news.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on September 03, 2012, 06:47:27 PM
When your at work dont you ever think about leaving and maybe trying something different?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on September 03, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
I would rather he kept it to himself personally but it isnt a big deal. It does seem drama follows him every where but I have always said he is a cracking player and maybe this is what you have to accept when you have a player with his level of ability.

Do we believe he had a crisis in confidence? Well he is a confidence player but im not sure it really washes with me and im sure an offer from the middle east would be tempting for him to allow him to have a final money spinning move although maybe he did just like the idea of playing with less stress.

The talk did dry up very quickly though and at least he did not go on strike. Asking for a move is one thing, demanding one is another. He fell on the right side of the line so hopefully he can have one last big season before we maybe grant him his wish of retirement in the middle east. Would be a waste with his talent though to leave Europe in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on September 03, 2012, 06:52:55 PM
I totally respect him for being honest and most people at some point are disillusioned with work, irrespective of what career they are in.

However, he maybe should have kept quiet about this because the he is under scrutiny all the time.

If he has a bad game it will be "well he wants to leave again" or "he never wanted to stay really" etc.

Sometimes it's not always the best thing to publicly say these things especially in his position.

I believe he is happy here, I just hope he's not turned on the minute something goes wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on September 03, 2012, 07:02:02 PM
I think hes quite a complex character is Pete.  Reading that article he seems to doubt his ability to continue playing at the top level.  We all know he has had stretches where his confidence has been low and its affected his performances.


Some players need shouting at and some need an arm around the shoulders - Pete is clearly the latter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on September 03, 2012, 07:20:08 PM
I think Clarke deserves a lot of credit for keeping Pete at the club. I reckon a different manager with a different approach and Pete could have been off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 03, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
A) the best striker we have had in the prem FACT
B) everyone craves honesty , then moan when they get it?
C)the bigger /better you get the more you deal with egos/personalitys , would you say no to Tevez, ballotelli , RVP or Ronaldo?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 03, 2012, 08:07:23 PM
I think Pete had his head turned by middle east money.The i'm not sure if i can perform at this level anymore simply doesn't wash.
So if Arsenal had come in he would have said the same.

Nice try Pete but too old in the tooth me.


But,if he is hungry to play again for us that has to be good news.
Why would he say anything in the first place if that's the case? There was nothing to suggest before today that his head was turned by an offer from the Middle East, so if that was the case wouldn't he just not say anything rather than say a lie to a question he wasn't asked?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on September 03, 2012, 09:39:54 PM
When your at work dont you ever think about leaving and maybe trying something different?

Not 12 months after I’ve demanded and signed a fat, new 3 year contract playing football for the world’s greatest club, no.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on September 03, 2012, 09:59:06 PM
Ok i have got it wrong.

Honest as the day is long our Pete.  Ok now?  :)

Another Paul Robinson,we will get this every window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 03, 2012, 10:02:06 PM
Ok i have got it wrong.

Honest as the day is long our Pete.  Ok now?  :)

Another Paul Robinson,we will get this every window.

Nothing like Paul Robinson, Robinson tried to effectively blackmail the club into allowing him to leave, all behind the scenes, then when his body failed him, issued a public statement to fans saying he loved the club. Scum bag up there with Davies.

The agenda against Odemwingie is a joke to be honest.

Not 12 months after I’ve demanded and signed a fat, new 3 year contract playing football for the world’s greatest club, no.

He got a deserved pay rise after an outstanding season. I don't recall him moving to Barca?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on September 03, 2012, 10:57:03 PM
I have no problem with Odemwingie or any other player for wanting to leave the Hawthorns. It is their profession and they are entitled to make decisions that affect their livelihood just like the rest of us. However because of the long term contracts they enjoy they cannot just up and leave without compensation being agreed between the clubs.

I have nothing but contempt for the likes of Dempsey or Davies who refuse to play but where a player is being reasonable and accepts that the club has a right to negotiate compensation and honours their contract both in the letter and spirit then I have no problem with them leaving.
 
In someways I would rather footballers told the truth and did not feel the need to pretend that there are always footballing reasons for their decisions. In most instances it is about economics or lifestyle choices which is fair enough because we all do that I have never felt the need to spout spurious claptrap  about wanting work with a particular manager or pretend I have some lifetime affinity to some obscure PLC when I have changed jobs why should footballers?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 03, 2012, 11:07:21 PM
Ok i have got it wrong.

Honest as the day is long our Pete.  Ok now?  :)

Another Paul Robinson,we will get this every window.
When in doubt resort to sarcasm.

Not 12 months after I’ve demanded and signed a fat, new 3 year contract playing football for the world’s greatest club, no.
He didn't demand it, he was given it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on September 03, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
Sounds to me like somebody who is in doubt of his own abilities.

I'd rather he be honest, than string us along like other previous players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
Ok i have got it wrong.

Honest as the day is long our Pete.  Ok now?  :)

Another Paul Robinson,we will get this every window.

It's the complete opposite to Robinson though, Robinson used to preach his love and loyalty for the club in interviews whilst trying to engineer moves away behind the scenes at the exact same time. Odemwingie has just been honest that he considered leaving at one point.

People go on about no characters in football and such, but whenever someone says something that isn't the party line they get people complaining about it! As far as I can see Odemwingie has been entirely honest in his entire stay here. Maybe he should just learn to answer all questions with "I'm happy to stay forever". But then of course if he does move, you get the exact same people saying a players word means nothing these days! 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on September 04, 2012, 04:55:15 AM
I hope he stays and has the hunger he says has returned. We shall see.

Why do some of you though get so uppy and end over backwards to defend players who treat us off handedly and with a total lack of respect.

Would you react to a slap in the face or say  "sorry mate"?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on September 04, 2012, 08:05:53 AM
He put in a delightful cross for Long to finish to start us on our way to 3 points against Everton. Keep doing this like that and I don't care what happens behind the scenes. Not for us to worry about.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on September 04, 2012, 12:18:12 PM
He should take a leaf out of McAuleys book and just get on with playing instaed of trying to work an angle every transfer window.
Get ready for more of the same come Christmas

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2012/09/04/gareth-mcauley-happy-to-wait-for-new-deal/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on September 04, 2012, 12:32:33 PM
He should take a leaf out of McAuleys book and just get on with playing instaed of trying to work an angle every transfer window.
Get ready for more of the same come Christmas

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2012/09/04/gareth-mcauley-happy-to-wait-for-new-deal/

Very different personalities. I don't think PO is trying to 'work an angle'. He is simply a bit of drama and wants to feel appreciated. McAuley is far stabler emotionally.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 04, 2012, 01:49:47 PM
I hope he stays and has the hunger he says has returned. We shall see.

Why do some of you though get so uppy and end over backwards to defend players who treat us off handedly and with a total lack of respect.

Would you react to a slap in the face or say  "sorry mate"?

I don't see where people have bent over backwards to defend Peter Odemwingie. In-fact, I think its the opposite as he's harshly criticised in my opinion. I think we have to accept that when we have the better players at our club, they might come with baggage and therefore the transfer rumours which surround them every summer might be taken out of context.

Peter Odemwingie is without doubt the best player at this football club and we must keep hold of him at all costs. He has proved that he can reach ten goals a season or more and that is so important to us. Without the goals of Odemwingie we could well have been playing last season in the championship. For that reason alone, and the fact he is important to us is why we should lay off him, especially if he feels he doesn't have long left in the game and fancies one money spinning deal. As mentioned previously, I appreciate his honesty that he asked to move but then when he received the answer he's carried on with his football professionally, playing an important part in our opening two home games of the season.

Credit for Clarke for turning him around and keeping him here. Many posters on the board said that the appointment of Clarke would force our better players away but as many thought at the time, that won't be the case and Clarke has proved that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarich on September 04, 2012, 02:32:15 PM
It is obvious he was trying to get more money out of the Albion or a move away for more money!

Then when no one came in for him he knew he had to stay here

Enjoy your new challenge at the end of the season Pete
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on September 04, 2012, 04:59:25 PM
What annoys me is the welcome we gave him was better than that given to any player in our history.
At the end of that season he had scored 15 goals and asked for a better contract.Fair enough,i don't begrudge him that,no one has scored that many goals for us in the prem.

So he signs another contract,4 years was it,then towards the end of that season he starts becoming disinterested again and there were rumours,and i say only rumours of our players not getting on with him and a dust up with SC.

Now the window has shut and he knows he is stuck here until at least January,he has said he wanted to move all along,which proves that there was unrest,but say's it was because he didn't know if he could perform at this level,which i think is rubbish.He wants more money,he might as well say it.

Now,i think he will put a shift in so as to sell himself to another club,so be prepared for more of this in January or next summer.

Personally,if he is on form i would play him,but i would search out a replacement for him the sooner the better.

This guy is one bad egg.


Good Albion player yes,Albion hero,never.

I feel sorry for people like Brunt and Long who work hard for the team and have never asked for a move,and yet get continually picked on by some of our fans,while Mr Odemwingie can't be talked about.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on September 04, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
Im on this forum quite a lot and read pretty much every article on Albion so can someone tell me what he has done wrong with any proof?

Because tbf Divine you have just called him a bad egg at the club because of rumours.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on September 04, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
It is obvious he was trying to get more money out of the Albion or a move away for more money!

Then when no one came in for him he knew he had to stay here

Enjoy your new challenge at the end of the season Pete
Lets face it there is no real loyalty in football any more. Not like in the days of Astle, Brown and Cantello etc. where they stayed with clubs because they became part of that club.

You cant blame PO, or any of the others (Jonas for instance......he is trying to ramp up his contract). Just celebrate we have some decent players who can bring The Albion a bit of success!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on September 04, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
Im on this forum quite a lot and read pretty much every article on Albion so can someone tell me what he has done wrong with any proof?

Because tbf Divine you have just called him a bad egg at the club because of rumours.

Only through what has been reported by Pete himself or his agent.

There was i recall a fan from this site who met Pete in a service station after a game against Wigan,and was blanked by him(Pete) and told to go away by his minders.

If you watch his body language in games it's all about him,not the team.If he misses a chance his head goes down and he mopes for a few minutes.

To be fair though that was a great ball against Everton.

I am Albion through and through and no player is bigger than this club,so if i see the best squad we have had since 1978 in danger of being disrupted i get annoyed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: socalbaggie on September 04, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
Im on this forum quite a lot and read pretty much every article on Albion so can someone tell me what he has done wrong with any proof?

Because tbf Divine you have just called him a bad egg at the club because of rumours.

I think maybe just reffering to this and just his constant out in out in attitude. Don't get me wrong he needs to play and should not be sold unless a PROVEN 15 goal scorer is brought in!

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-b PRromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/09/03/peter-odemwingie-thought-about-leaving-west-brom-in-summer-97319-31757344/

PETER Odemwingie concedes that he considered leaving West Bromwich Albion during the summer.

The Baggies striker was subject of speculation over his future during the close season, with Qatari club Al-Gharafa making an unsuccessful bid for the player.

But Odemwingie - who denied any suggestions of a summer bust-up with Steve Clarke - claims the West Brom boss actually convinced him to stay at B71.

The Nigeria international said:“I don’t know where that (reports of a bust-up) came from.

“People would have seen afterwards if there was a problem.

“We sat down and had a normal talk. He was the new coach and he said ‘give me a few weeks and see how we work, because we’re ambitious for this year’.


“I said I would give it a couple of weeks and after that I was enjoying training and it looked like it was going to be an interesting season, so I forgot about the offer."

He continued: “I thought there would be nothing new for me at West Brom and I gave it a try (asked about leaving) to see what would happen.

“But the club said that it was too early for me to go and they thought I could play an important role for them and keep playing.

“Then pre-season started and I got hungry again for Premier League action and I forgot about it.”



Read More http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/09/03/peter-odemwingie-thought-about-leaving-west-brom-in-summer-97319-31757344/#ixzz25WCnQT9J
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on September 04, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
Only through what has been reported by Pete himself or his agent.

There was i recall a fan from this site who met Pete in a service station after a game against Wigan,and was blanked by him(Pete) and told to go away by his minders.

If you watch his body language in games it's all about him,not the team.If he misses a chance his head goes down and he mopes for a few minutes.

To be fair though that was a great ball against Everton.

I am Albion through and through and no player is bigger than this club,so if i see the best squad we have had since 1978 in danger of being disrupted i get annoyed.
Aren't we paying Steve Clarke to keep harmony in the ranks. And i bet 80% of al PL footballers would blank their supporters in the same situation. They are what they are. Very highly paid blokes with inflated opnions of themselves
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on September 04, 2012, 05:30:20 PM
Peter Odemwingie has a team of minders to get petrol, wow, I wouldn't base your opinion of him on what a stranger writes on a message board.

Odemwingie is an approachable and extremely polite bloke based on accounts that I trust.  The stuff about it being all about him and his head going down is your opinion, but one I don't agree with.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on September 04, 2012, 05:33:33 PM
For all we know Chris Brunt or anybody else may have thought about leaving this summer, only difference is Pete come out and told us. Jonas Olsson definately thought about leaving so whats the difference. The bit about Wigan if true is not nice at all and Im not going to stick up for him and say he's a footballer and that because that doesnt excuse rudeness to a fan who has travelled away.

But I cant see how that one instance can make him a bad egg at a club, everything else are just rumours with no substance at all in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on September 04, 2012, 06:14:50 PM
I don't know why people get so wrapped up in these news reports and other rumours. Fact is that PO is one of the most influential players at the club. Without him I doubt we'd still be playing at this level. As long as he keeps producing whilst on the pitch then that is all that counts IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on September 04, 2012, 06:30:49 PM
The game changed when he came on Saturday in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarich on September 04, 2012, 06:54:31 PM
What annoys me is the welcome we gave him was better than that given to any player in our history.
At the end of that season he had scored 15 goals and asked for a better contract.Fair enough,i don't begrudge him that,no one has scored that many goals for us in the prem.

So he signs another contract,4 years was it,then towards the end of that season he starts becoming disinterested again and there were rumours,and i say only rumours of our players not getting on with him and a dust up with SC.

Now the window has shut and he knows he is stuck here until at least January,he has said he wanted to move all along,which proves that there was unrest,but say's it was because he didn't know if he could perform at this level,which i think is rubbish.He wants more money,he might as well say it.

Now,i think he will put a shift in so as to sell himself to another club,so be prepared for more of this in January or next summer.

Personally,if he is on form i would play him,but i would search out a replacement for him the sooner the better.

This guy is one bad egg.


Good Albion player yes,Albion hero,never.

I feel sorry for people like Brunt and Long who work hard for the team and have never asked for a move,and yet get continually picked on by some of our fans,while Mr Odemwingie can't be talked about.

Totally agree! Wait and see what happens when January transfer window opens! I'm afraid he isn't the GOD that many think he is on here!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on September 04, 2012, 07:16:40 PM
Totally agree! Wait and see what happens when January transfer window opens! I'm afraid he isn't the GOD that many think he is on here!

Give me just one example of anyone on here who thinks PO is a god?  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on September 04, 2012, 07:19:07 PM
Give me just one example of anyone on here who thinks PO is a god?  ::)

Godemwingie? ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 04, 2012, 07:31:31 PM
The January Window: Newspaper will create rumours using quotes from a Nigerian papers uncle's daughter claiming to be from Peter Odemwingie to unsettle Pete and sell their papers.

Maybe we shouldn't believe them and just concentrate on keeping Pete at the club. He was given a deserved new contract last season as a reward for his very good performances. During the summer he wanted to try something new and asked about a transfer. The answer was no, he's got his head down and continued playing for the club. No dramatics like handing in a transfer request and refusing to play. He's got his head down and played a vital part in our opening two home fixtures.

The fact people can call Peter Odemwingie a bad egg on very little foundation is at best strange to be honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on September 04, 2012, 07:33:13 PM
Godemwingie? ;D

haha, good one :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 05, 2012, 12:53:15 AM
I hope he stays and has the hunger he says has returned. We shall see.

Why do some of you though get so uppy and end over backwards to defend players who treat us off handedly and with a total lack of respect.

Would you react to a slap in the face or say  "sorry mate"?
The way I see it the people who defend Odemwingie aren't bending over backwards at all, it's the people who slag him off who are bending over backwards. The defenders don't have to put much effort in at all, defending him is very easy as there's very little evidence of Odemwingie being the horrible person that his 'critics' make him out to be. His 'haters' seem to be constantly searching for any little angle to have a go at him, any vantage point they can snipe from, any dubious rumour they can choose to believe, anything he does or says that they can completely twist around to be something negative... When that article was published on Monday they must have wet themselves in excitement as they now had some fantastic ammunition to use against him, pure gold, words straight from the horse's mouth that they can morph into any shape that matches and suits their views. Why do they do it? Are they just negative and cynical people? Are they gullible and have that opinion because they believe all the groundless rumours and accusations about him? Does drama and scandal excitement them, something which a renegade player would provide? Any reason could be consciously or subconsciously, but whatever the reason is, I can't understand why they're are so hell-bent on making him out to be as detestable a person as they can. There's no logic to it.

Totally agree! Wait and see what happens when January transfer window opens! I'm afraid he isn't the GOD that many think he is on here!
Maybe not, but I'm afraid however much you want him to be he isn't the DEVIL that many think he is on here!


To the 'Odemwingie is a bad egg' crowd, is there any chance that you're reading that article and instead of seeing what's written, you're seeing what you want to see? You think he's a bad egg so you want to see him saying something in the article that proves that he is, problem is he didn't, but that doesn't matter because you can twist his words so in your mind he did.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on September 05, 2012, 10:02:09 AM
In a way its a shame that we spend so much time debating the loyalty of what for me is one of our best ever players, and I go back to the 70,s. Wish we would spend a bit more time debating how we might get the best from him in this new look squad because one thing is for sure he is not the only great striker we now have, which he probably was when he arrived. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 05, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
And the opinion of many other fans too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on September 05, 2012, 10:08:19 AM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on September 05, 2012, 10:46:16 AM
Having read the article it seems to me that he was concerned that at his age he couldn't perform at a high enough level for us. Steve Clarke has obviously reassured him that he can and that's that.
 I don't understand the "he lacks committment" etc comments from some people....it appears he didn't want to playing for a side he couldn't perform for...that sounds like a decent honest player to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Webby on September 05, 2012, 11:29:27 AM
End of the day... He's here, he is playing well and has been vital for us and that's all that matters really. There are days at my work I seriously consider maybe finding another job due to circumstances etc but I guess it's human nature. Let's just enjoy Pete whilst we have him! We got him for a bargain fee he has repayed more than 10 times over.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on September 05, 2012, 01:44:37 PM
Look people, Odemwingie is not God......


















........... He's better than God.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on September 05, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
He's thirty-ish, a "rootless cosmopolitan citizen" with no strong connection to WBA, or for that matter, the UK.  He/his agent obviously had some tentatative contact about a semi-retirement package in the middle east to set him up for life, but nothing happened, so he's stayed for now.  He won't be a top line player for much longer, so let's just make the most of him this season.  Fine by me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lloydy on September 05, 2012, 06:04:56 PM
Seems to me like a lot of Albion fans are very keen to play down the importance of Peter Odemwingie to us, why this is I don't know.

I don't think I'm breaking any rules by saying this, if I am then it will get removed and I'll take my punishment from Phil (:o) ... no doubt people will laugh this off but it's just something I've noticed. Peter wouldn't be the first black / mixed race striker we've had at the club that a number of fans just don't like. Now I'm not saying Albion fans in general are racist, but it's something I've noticed especially from the older generation - the younger generation seem a lot more accepting of Pete in my opinion. It seems to me that unless a black / mixed race player runs around like a headless chicken (Mulumbu for example), he is pigeon holed as the "lazy black lad".

Just think about how many players of this description have, at some point or another, been labeled this way. Odemwingie, Jerome Thomas, Nathan Ellington, Luke Moore, Somen Tchoyi, Ishmael Miller, Jason Roberts, Diomansy Kamara, to name a few. Even Fabien de Freitas still gets mentioned, out of all the dross we had in the 90's why him? Now some of these players may deserve to be labeled lazy, but as I said it's just something I've noticed. Whether this is intentional, unintentional or just that these players fail to live up to the high standards set by the Three Degrees decades ago, I really don't know.

And before anyone bangs the "PC gone mad" drum, I am far from being the kind of person who is offended by everything in the world so let's not go down that road. It's just an observation and I'm entitled to express it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 05, 2012, 06:10:34 PM
Seems to me like a lot of Albion fans are very keen to play down the importance of Peter Odemwingie to us, why this is I don't know.

I don't think I'm breaking any rules by saying this, if I am then it will get removed and I'll take my punishment from Phil (:o) ... no doubt people will laugh this off but it's just something I've noticed. Peter wouldn't be the first black / mixed race striker we've had at the club that a number of fans just don't like. Now I'm not saying Albion fans in general are racist, but it's something I've noticed especially from the older generation - the younger generation seem a lot more accepting of Pete in my opinion. It seems to me that unless a black / mixed race player runs around like a headless chicken (Mulumbu for example), he is pigeon holed as the "lazy black lad".

Just think about how many players of this description have, at some point or another, been labeled this way. Odemwingie, Jerome Thomas, Nathan Ellington, Luke Moore, Somen Tchoyi, Ishmael Miller, Jason Roberts, Diomansy Kamara, to name a few. Even Fabien de Freitas still gets mentioned, out of all the dross we had in the 90's why him? Now some of these players may deserve to be labeled lazy, but as I said it's just something I've noticed. Whether this is intentional, unintentional or just that these players fail to live up to the high standards set by the Three Degrees decades ago, I really don't know.

And before anyone bangs the "PC gone mad" drum, I am far from being the kind of person who is offended by everything in the world so let's not go down that road. It's just an observation and I'm entitled to express it.

Sorry mate but you are barking up the wrong tree there, I can add Paul Wiiliams, George Reilly, Micky Evans even Shane Long who have had the same or get it now.

Its just a football fan thing, all players have fans who knock them, Utd fans have a go at Rooney, Liverpool fans have a go at Suarez, etc etc etc
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lloydy on September 05, 2012, 06:24:59 PM
Sorry mate but you are barking up the wrong tree there, I can add Paul Wiiliams, George Reilly, Micky Evans even Shane Long who have had the same or get it now.

Its just a football fan thing, all players have fans who knock them, Utd fans have a go at Rooney, Liverpool fans have a go at Suarez, etc etc etc

Shane Long is rubbish though... ;D :-*

Mickey Evans was equally as dire as de Freitas yet never gets mentioned. Although maybe that's down to his excellent timekeeping skills!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 05, 2012, 06:57:25 PM
 :D bellend

Ally Brown used to get stick as well if I remember
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 05, 2012, 07:01:22 PM
David Mills is another one who got stick
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on September 05, 2012, 07:02:06 PM
:D bellend

Ally Brown used to get stick as well if I remember

And Joe Mayo.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 05, 2012, 07:04:41 PM
And Joe Mayo.
Ken Foggo
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on September 05, 2012, 07:11:30 PM
Seems to me like a lot of Albion fans are very keen to play down the importance of Peter Odemwingie to us, why this is I don't know.

I don't think I'm breaking any rules by saying this, if I am then it will get removed and I'll take my punishment from Phil (:o) ... no doubt people will laugh this off but it's just something I've noticed. Peter wouldn't be the first black / mixed race striker we've had at the club that a number of fans just don't like. Now I'm not saying Albion fans in general are racist, but it's something I've noticed especially from the older generation - the younger generation seem a lot more accepting of Pete in my opinion. It seems to me that unless a black / mixed race player runs around like a headless chicken (Mulumbu for example), he is pigeon holed as the "lazy black lad".

Just think about how many players of this description have, at some point or another, been labeled this way. Odemwingie, Jerome Thomas, Nathan Ellington, Luke Moore, Somen Tchoyi, Ishmael Miller, Jason Roberts, Diomansy Kamara, to name a few. Even Fabien de Freitas still gets mentioned, out of all the dross we had in the 90's why him? Now some of these players may deserve to be labeled lazy, but as I said it's just something I've noticed. Whether this is intentional, unintentional or just that these players fail to live up to the high standards set by the Three Degrees decades ago, I really don't know.

And before anyone bangs the "PC gone mad" drum, I am far from being the kind of person who is offended by everything in the world so let's not go down that road. It's just an observation and I'm entitled to express it.

How many of those players though could you explain away fans frustrations with another reason?

Peter Odemwingie and Diomansy Kamara have both been very good on the pitch but both seem to carry a lot of extra off the pitch with constant news stories of wanting to leave. That will inevitably make some fans moan.

Nathan Ellington and Luke Moore always looked fed up when playing, maybe because neither player actually loved playing football from what I can see and both off the pitch appear the quite type (Ellington certainly seemed too nice for the game after he converted to Islam). Ishmael Miller was the nice lad who would do stupid things, like when he had a tantrum in the box for missing - as the ball fell to his feet in space. The amount of times he would have is head in his hands even tough the play was still going on didnt help.

Jason Roberts you can put squarely at the feet of Megson - he said he had a bad attitude and not lazy, although that appears to be maybe a little wide of the mark with how the rest of his career ha panned out (seemingly the model pro).

I dont think too many call Thomas any lazier than Dorrans and Tchoyi was always known more for "not knowing what he was about to do" rather than being lazy - something it was hard to disagree with, and was part of hi charm.

Im not saying your point doesnt have some merit, maybe there is an element there of a stereotype more prevalent in a bygone era, but I think it maybe has more to do with footballs fans lazy analysis of the reason a player acts/plays like he does. The fact we have only named attacking players is probably very telling as well - attacking positions where players are usually more creative often get more criticism for not putting enough in and thus being called lazy.
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on September 05, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
I agree with Lloydy's point.  I've always been a big fan of Pete's and have always questioned those who spout bile towards him and none of them have given me a reasoned, clear, objective, sensical view of why they dislike him so much.  Not in person anyway, a few people on here have, although I don't agree with them.

I spoke to one guy in a pub at Sunderland away last year, he was slating Pete and I said why do you dislike him so much, he said I've always disliked him right from the first game he played with us.  I just thought that is so nonsensical there must be something more sinister behind his 'reasoning'.  Of course I'm not saying everyone who doesn't rate Odemwingie has a problem with him but I'd say there are a few Albion fans, whether they are conscence of it or not, that have there backs up because a black/mixed race guy is being paid £40k a week by their club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on September 05, 2012, 08:34:54 PM
People don't like him for the following reasons:

-He is the highest paid player at the club.
-He sometimes looks like he's not interested.
-He is constantly linked with a move away.
-He has openly admitted he would move to a bigger club.
-He didn't quite meet the standards of his first year in his second year.
-He is right footed and always seems to use his left (freak)

Race has absolutely nothing to do with it. The thing is really good players completely divide opinion.

It's completely unfair to suggest fans who don't like him do so because of his race. Despite liking the bloke myself  - there are plenty of perfectly legitimate reasons to dislike him.

How much does Brunt get slagged of and he is soooo white?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 05, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
I agree with Lloydy's point.  I've always been a big fan of Pete's and have always questioned those who spout bile towards him and none of them have given me a reasoned, clear, objective, sensical view of why they dislike him so much.  Not in person anyway, a few people on here have, although I don't agree with them.

I spoke to one guy in a pub at Sunderland away last year, he was slating Pete and I said why do you dislike him so much, he said I've always disliked him right from the first game he played with us.  I just thought that is so nonsensical there must be something more sinister behind his 'reasoning'.  Of course I'm not saying everyone who doesn't rate Odemwingie has a problem with him but I'd say there are a few Albion fans, whether they are conscence of it or not, that have there backs up because a black/mixed race guy is being paid £40k a week by their club.
I really hope you are wrong, we dont need that kind of thing at our club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2013, 12:59:26 AM
The Sun linking Pete with a move to Newcastle for £3m  ::)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4721614/EXCLUSIVE.html


ALAN PARDEW is lining up West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie as Demba Ba’s replacement.

Ba plays for Newcastle tonight for the first time since trying to seal his dream move to Chelsea.

Talks were on-going last night and Toon boss Pardew is hoping to land Odemwingie for £3million.

The Nigerian, 31, has 18 months left on his deal and wants to quit Albion.

He almost moved to the cash-rich Qatari League last summer but the Baggies were unable to strike a deal.

Albion chiefs are keen to do business now rather than see his value plummet as he nears the end of his contract.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 02, 2013, 05:37:33 AM
The Sun linking Pete with a move to Newcastle for £3m  ::)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4721614/EXCLUSIVE.html


ALAN PARDEW is lining up West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie as Demba Ba’s replacement.

Ba plays for Newcastle tonight for the first time since trying to seal his dream move to Chelsea.

Talks were on-going last night and Toon boss Pardew is hoping to land Odemwingie for £3million.

The Nigerian, 31, has 18 months left on his deal and wants to quit Albion.

He almost moved to the cash-rich Qatari League last summer but the Baggies were unable to strike a deal.

Albion chiefs are keen to do business now rather than see his value plummet as he nears the end of his contract.


May be something in this, I think his wifes family are from the north.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 02, 2013, 06:37:38 AM
The Sun linking Pete with a move to Newcastle for £3m  ::)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4721614/EXCLUSIVE.html


ALAN PARDEW is lining up West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie as Demba Ba’s replacement.

Ba plays for Newcastle tonight for the first time since trying to seal his dream move to Chelsea.

Talks were on-going last night and Toon boss Pardew is hoping to land Odemwingie for £3million.

The Nigerian, 31, has 18 months left on his deal and wants to quit Albion.

He almost moved to the cash-rich Qatari League last summer but the Baggies were unable to strike a deal.

Albion chiefs are keen to do business now rather than see his value plummet as he nears the end of his contract.


Blimey, how surprising!
Pete linked with a move away in the transfer window.
Getting a bit sick of this now TBH happens every window
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 02, 2013, 08:25:20 AM
You can see why they make the link and I'm Newcastle, along with a few others, would be interested at the right price.

But in reality that price is going to be very inflated. Pete is our highest paid player in history and still has a year and a half left on his deal so for a start that pushes his value above the reporters 3 million, not to mention in the summer the club were believed to value him at around 10+ million.

Also I doubt that Pete really wants to leave, he's pretty happy here, plays games regularly, has just got married, bought a house in the area and his wife is due to have their baby in the next few weeks. Also to whoever mentioned his family are from the North, I think they are Manchester way as Pete has mentioned in the past his father in law is a City fan so I can't imagine living down here is a real problem.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 02, 2013, 08:25:58 AM
I dunno why people gobble up this kind of nonsense time and time again. It's what journo's do. They bait people knowing full well which players are popular/good in each team. All they want is an emotional reaction out of people and their job is done.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 02, 2013, 09:40:49 AM
I dunno why people gobble up this kind of nonsense time and time again. It's what journo's do. They bait people knowing full well which players are popular/good in each team. All they want is an emotional reaction out of people and their job is done.

No one is gobbleing this up or reacting, just reporting what the papers say. :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 02, 2013, 10:07:03 AM
However....
Newcastle may possibly offer more than us?
He may play as a striker
Its his last big contract
If we hold him his value (in pounds) will only deflate from here on in

Not saying he will go , just that it could be a possibility that our best striker ever in the prem (fact) could leave.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: collins101 on January 02, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
Met the guy on NYE in the apple shop, he's more than happy at the Albion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 02, 2013, 10:29:43 AM
Well, just for those afraid PO will leave, Clarke did say that he was happy with the squad as long as he didn't lose any of our players in this window... So obviously there are 'sniffers' around some of our players. :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 02, 2013, 10:31:04 AM
Met the guy on NYE in the apple shop, he's more than happy at the Albion.
Not wishing to doubt you , but the chances of a top player staying with their club because they told a fan they would do not exist.
I hope he stays but the list for going seems longer than the list for staying?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 02, 2013, 12:20:15 PM
From the Brum Mail

But our man at the Baggies, Chris Lepkowski, today poured cold water on the news.

He tweeted : "No truth in this morning's reports that#wba and Newcastle are in talks over potential Odemwingie move"

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rumour-mill-newcastle-want-peter-397752
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 02, 2013, 02:36:31 PM
Ba's release clause has been triggered by Chelsea... *drumroll*  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 02, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
Why would Pete want to move to a little club in the North East who are in a relegation battle?  :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 02, 2013, 07:28:43 PM
Why would Pete want to move to a little club in the North East who are in a relegation battle?  :)
Its all  about the money, money, money! ;)

(Pete also seems to perform when/want to be loved and there are a significant amount of Geordies prepared to do that.)

However, because it is written in a rag that I wouldn't wipe my ass on, I will only believe it when it actually happens.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 02, 2013, 10:06:32 PM
If Peter is to go then take the 3mill and get Sinclair on loan heard he's frustrated at City,got goals in him,and with Ba going to Chelsea looking good to keepLukaku into next season ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 02, 2013, 10:11:59 PM
If Peter is to go then take the 3mill and get Sinclair on loan heard he's frustrated at City,got goals in him,and with Ba going to Chelsea looking good to keepLukaku into next season ;D

The way Newcastle is playing we can probably get 5 million for PO.

Make that 10 million for PO and Dorrans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gavinrussell on January 03, 2013, 01:43:39 PM
Why would Newcastle want him ? and why should we let him go ?.....our top earner ( believe to be 42 k a week )....needs to knuckle down and start frightening the poo out of defences like he was doing last season.............
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 03, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
Why would Newcastle want him ? and why should we let him go ?.....our top earner ( believe to be 42 k a week )....needs to knuckle down and start frightening the poo out of defences like he was doing last season.............

needs to play every week for me. he does frighten defenders....... when he plays.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 03, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
Why would Newcastle want him ? and why should we let him go ?.....our top earner ( believe to be 42 k a week )....needs to knuckle down and start frightening the poo out of defences like he was doing last season.............

He still is frightening the poo out of defences. When he plays.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 03, 2013, 02:52:37 PM
I think most teams have figured out that they only have to put a couple of players on him when he has the ball as he hardly ever passes. Although against Fulham he did make one or two passes more than normal.

I'm not his biggest fan so I wouldn't lose any sleep if he left, but I still think his best position is up top on his own. He can solo to his hearts content then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 03, 2013, 03:09:19 PM
I think this will be his last season with us, he is 32 and he might fancy a new challenge. I think he is wasted out wide but still does a good job now and then. Should we sell him in now ? No unless we get a nice tasty offer of £5-6 million.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 03, 2013, 03:54:17 PM
Pardew apparently has just they are not interested in Odemwingie, said they wont be signing anybody over the age of 30 or something along those lines.

I hope he does stay and think he will unless we have somebody better to replace him, he can drive you mad with his decision making, he can be non existent for 80 minutes but he is the one player in our squad (maybe Lukaku too) who can produce something out of nothing, do something a bit different. Attacking wise, Gera, Brunt, Morrison, Dorrans, Thomas, Long and Fortune are all good players and they do the jobs in the orthodox manner and it produces results a lot of the time, where as i think Odemwingie and Lukaku are instinct players and i like people like that so for me and the rest of the first team players, unless we have somebody better lined up, then dont sell them!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WSBaggie on January 03, 2013, 05:03:21 PM
Pardew apparently has just they are not interested in Odemwingie, said they wont be signing anybody over the age of 30 or something along those lines.

I hope he does stay and think he will unless we have somebody better to replace him, he can drive you mad with his decision making, he can be non existent for 80 minutes but he is the one player in our squad (maybe Lukaku too) who can produce something out of nothing, do something a bit different. Attacking wise, Gera, Brunt, Morrison, Dorrans, Thomas, Long and Fortune are all good players and they do the jobs in the orthodox manner and it produces results a lot of the time, where as i think Odemwingie and Lukaku are instinct players and i like people like that so for me and the rest of the first team players, unless we have somebody better lined up, then dont sell them!

Such a ridiculous statement in football. There are an incredible amount of players over 30 who could offer so much to Newcastle. Big shame people see it as the 'end' when a player hits that age.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GREGMT on January 03, 2013, 09:53:59 PM
Absolute disgrace if we sell Odemwingie to Newcastle.

He is one of our better players by a street.  Definitely has the class to play in a champions league team.

I hope and pray we keep him and this rumour is false. 

I thought we'd stopped being a selling club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 03, 2013, 09:58:58 PM
Absolute disgrace if we sell Odemwingie to Newcastle.

He is one of our better players by a street.  Definitely has the class to play in a champions league team.

I hope and pray we keep him and this rumour is false. 

I thought we'd stopped being a selling club.

When is the last time we sold a first-team player?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 03, 2013, 10:00:15 PM
When is the last time we sold a first-team player?

johno?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 03, 2013, 10:02:11 PM
johno?

We didn't exactly miss him and that was 4 years ago.

We haven't been let down by those in charge; I see no reason to doubt them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 03, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
We didn't exactly miss him and that was 4 years ago.

We haven't been let down by those in charge; I see no reason to doubt them.

I posted that as an answer to your question, not to try and prove you wrong in any sense. It was time he left and our midfield sped up immensely as soon as he left.

I do trust JP as he has looked after our interests well in recent times.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GREGMT on January 03, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
We're already short of wing options - this would compound matters further.

Odemwingie was nothing short of magnificent last season, some people will have short memories.

If this Newcastle deal is the case, we might as well sell Yacob, Mulumbu, Olsson and Foster while we're on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on January 03, 2013, 11:38:02 PM
why do we need too sell all of those players if we sell Odemwingie?


don't think he will go if I'm honest

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Wbamitch on January 04, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
Need to keep him and need to start him pretty much everygame.

Our most threatening player and no matter what form he is on he will be the player that the opposition fear and would hate to play against the most.

From the article on the website Clarke didn't rubbish the Odemwingie rumours like Olsson's which concerns me a bit   :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 04, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
The thing is, we're safe, he'll be 33 next season, so if a silly offer comes in, you can see why it might be taken and used for longer erm rebuilding.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 04, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Our most threatening player and no matter what form he is on he will be the player that the opposition fear and would hate to play against the most.

Totally agree mate

Makes me laugh when people slag him off he is a match winner plain and simple,he could do nothing for 89 minutes be lazy,selfish and arrogant then he will pop one in the top corner.

A proper premier league player
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 04, 2013, 06:35:39 PM
Still cant believe Steve Clarke stuck Odemwingie on the bench for the Fulham game
and has to be one of his biggest cock ups yet, I agree he isnt the best away from home
but the guy is a match winner and comes alive in home fixtures. SC needs to realise that
he`s only scored 4 goals which is poor for PO so should be given a run up front.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 05, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Not in the squad today,anybody know why?.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 05, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
Not in the squad today,anybody know why?.

Can only assume he was one of the injury doubts that Clarke spoke about the other day going into the game. No doubt that others will assume he's off though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 05, 2013, 07:40:34 PM
Can only assume he was one of the injury doubts that Clarke spoke about the other day going into the game. No doubt that others will assume he's off though.

I did hear that he did have an injury. To be honest I dont think we should have played even if he was fit. The team was strong enough today.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 05, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
Not in the squad today,anybody know why?.

Both Odemwingie and Mulumbu were injured and Dorrans was left at home. These were in addition to the four that were ruled out at the presser.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 05, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
Both Odemwingie and Mulumbu were injured and Dorrans was left at home. These were in addition to the four that were ruled out at the presser.
We had five "doubtful" in addition to the 4 rule outs. There's three, I wonder who the other two were?  ::)  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 06, 2013, 10:25:55 AM
We had five "doubtful" in addition to the 4 rule outs. There's three, I wonder who the other two were?  ::)  ;)

Foster could have been one given he sat on the bench and maybe Thomas too
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on January 06, 2013, 11:18:40 AM
Still cant believe Steve Clarke stuck Odemwingie on the bench for the Fulham game
and has to be one of his biggest cock ups yet, I agree he isnt the best away from home
but the guy is a match winner and comes alive in home fixtures. SC needs to realise that
he`s only scored 4 goals which is poor for PO so should be given a run up front.
fully agree with that  posted a few days ago swap pete and shane around for a few games it worked against chelsea cumilating with pete scoring a cracking header past one of the best keepers inthe premier from longs cross  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 08, 2013, 09:20:51 AM
Such a ridiculous statement in football. There are an incredible amount of players over 30 who could offer so much to Newcastle. Big shame people see it as the 'end' when a player hits that age.

I think the "we don't buy players over 30" thing is more to do with selling on rather than anything else. If you pay big money for a player over 30 you are unlikely to make it back if you decide to try and sell that same player on again.

I don't think Newcastle see themselves as a club in danger of relegation so don't need to buy a quick fix player, preferring to spend decent money on a player of around 25 yrs old, so if it doesn't work out for them they can have a realistic chance of selling on and not lose too much if any money on the deal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 11, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
QPR have made an enquiry about Odemwinige according to Sky Sports News. Enquiring means nothing and I hope ole craggy face is told where to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 11, 2013, 01:40:54 PM
According to Bryan Swanson from Sky, QPR have made an enquiry today for Odemwingie! If Redknapp was that desperate to manage Albion players why didnt he just go for the job in the summer! We should go back and say straight swap Odemwingie for Taarabt!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 11, 2013, 01:44:16 PM
According to Bryan Swanson from Sky, QPR have made an enquiry today for Odemwingie! If Redknapp was that desperate to manage Albion players why didnt he just go for the job in the summer! We should go back and say straight swap Odemwingie for Taarabt!
I'd want Granero too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Greenock Baggie on January 11, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Tell the tin-pot club to F*** OFF !!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 11, 2013, 01:56:07 PM
Hes trying to unsettle us for the replay. do one Arry
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on January 11, 2013, 02:09:00 PM
Cant wait to play them next week......If/when one of our players score cant wait to hear the ground sing "Harry Harry sign him up"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionLegend on January 11, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
Remember 'arry is not a wheela deala.

What a joke that man is, if Pete went anywhere it certainly wouldn't be QPR.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on January 11, 2013, 03:19:05 PM
Hes trying to unsettle us for the replay. do one Arry

my thoughts exactly >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 11, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
'Arry just can't shut up can he.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 11, 2013, 03:52:07 PM
Hey, Air Asia is doing well, financially. The reservoirs of dosh are deep and wide. I think this has less to do with 'Arry than desperate owners opening their wallets in a rather last-minute sort of way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 11, 2013, 06:05:18 PM
Tell the tin-pot club to F*** OFF !!!!!

... and get his bolshy son off the box at the same time. He thinks he's got an answer for everything. What do they say about empty vessels....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RuncornBaggie on January 11, 2013, 06:55:14 PM
To be honest I would be disappointed if any of our first-team players left us for QPR.  The only reason I would be reasonably happy to see any of our players leaving for QPR is if they weren't getting regular first team football. 

If a first teamer (ie Odemwingie) were to leave us to go there it would say a lot about them as a person. 

I get a little fed up of seeing Arry on Skysports news every 10 minutes as well! 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 11, 2013, 07:00:36 PM
I get a little fed up of seeing Arry on Skysports news every 10 minutes as well!
Lazy-ass journalism -- plain and simple. As you know, London clubs will always get disproportionate exposure because it's easy for production crews to get interviews, and then when you combine it with the loud-mouth factor, it's just too irresistible for London-based crews to pass up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 11, 2013, 07:27:09 PM
In the unlikely event that we accepted a completely stupid bid (not impossible QPR are in full blown panic mode so the sky could be the limit) they would have the devil's own job to persaude the player to join in their current position. This smacks of the old West Ham ploy of leaking ambitious names to the press left, right and centre to give the impression to their fans that they are trying to do something about the mess they are in but in reality they are trying to find a few bargain basement signings to shore things up a bit e.g. Ben Haim
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 11, 2013, 07:39:36 PM
This smacks of the old West Ham ploy of leaking ambitious names to the press left, right and centre to give the impression to their fans that they are trying to do something about the mess they are in but in reality they are trying to find a few bargain basement signings to shore things up a bit e.g. Ben Haim
Yep, makes great sense, and changes my thinking about old 'Arry a bit. It's also vaguely reminiscent of his smoke-and-mirrors approach to the managerial job market, when he essentially used the Ukraine national job opening as a bargaining chip to land the Rangers job: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/nov/23/harry-redknapp-ukraine-qpr

He's a fairly transparent actor, really, feigning interest in buying one thing in order to unsettle the real targets of his interest. With the P.O. feint, he also as others have said can try to unsettle his next big competitor, perhaps hoping to weaken WBA's team spirit a bit.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 11, 2013, 10:26:59 PM
It's only the media that give Awwy Redknapp this shrewd, 'magic touch' aura. IMOA, he reminds me of a sort of 'lop sided', slightly infected, 'strawberry blonde' pigeon that bobs his head through every misdemeanour but all too willing to flash other people's cash in a desperate 'help me Rodder's' attempt to buy and maintain his so called 'saviour/magician' status. Dynamo eat your heart out!
Desperate tactics, with one eye on the cup replay. Where the other eye is looking, your guess is as good as mine!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 11, 2013, 11:41:44 PM
Hope Odemwingie and Olsson on the scoresheet against QPR in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 12, 2013, 12:52:50 AM
Daily Mail reckon Odemwingie would cost £3.5m !! Good luck with that then 'Arry  ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2261071/QPR-swoop-West-Brom-striker-Peter-Odemwingie-Rennes-midfielder-Yann-MVila.html

Queens Park Rangers want West Bromwich Albion striker Peter Odemwingie and have offered £7.5million for Rennes midfielder Yann M’Vila.

Rennes have yet to accept the offer for him as they hope other Premier League clubs show interest.

M’Vila, 22, is understood to want a release clause inserted in any contract in case QPR are relegated.

Odemwingie, 31, would cost around £3.5m. The Nigeria international has made 17 appearances for Steve Clarke’s side this season, scoring four goals. QPR hope to complete a loan deal for Tottenham’s Jake Livermore, 23.



Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 12, 2013, 01:23:55 AM
Desperate tactics, with one eye on the cup replay. Where the other eye is looking, your guess is as good as mine!
Maybe someone like Michael Mancienne????
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Topman on January 12, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
Anyone just seen sports sat? They just tried to sell him and at no point said we would not sell
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on January 12, 2013, 12:42:16 PM
Anyone just seen sports sat? They just tried to sell him and at no point said we would not sell
Sorry can you explain that more?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Topman on January 12, 2013, 12:54:10 PM
they did a feature on QPR and talked about players they were trying to buy, Ollson and POW. They ran a mantage of his goals and said why he would be good for QPR. Saying Harry would play him all the time ect. At no stage they said we would not want to sell.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 12, 2013, 01:18:06 PM
I think this comes down to the London Media, they probably think QPR is a stepup, they love Harry because he is media friendly, always got something for them, he keeps them in jobs basically! and i think they report favourably on him because of that (i personally quite like Redknapp as he is a bit of a character)

What they forget is there are two clubs and a player need to make a transfer and if they did there research they would know the one dealing with funds at Albion is none other than Jeremy Peace! JP wouldnt get rid of anybody on the cheap and as we have no reason to sell or trim the wage bill, etc who we sell would be upto us unless a bigger or better club comes in and in maybe a reality check but QPR just because they are in London and spend their money stupidly, doesnt make them bigger or better!

They say January is the silly time  for transfer fees, any team trying to buy a player off Albion its the silly time as JP charges them top buck whether its January or June, its makes no odds to him, he gets the best deal whether hot or cold outside!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on January 12, 2013, 06:09:05 PM
We'd be even more buggered if we let Pete go. We are suffering an injury crisis and a lack of confidence at the moment.
We already need to strengthen in midfield and losing someone up front would just add to the misery. How about we buy someone instead of selling?!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on January 12, 2013, 08:47:12 PM
qpr have put a bid in of 2 million for pete , jp told them to sod off :-*
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 12, 2013, 09:55:37 PM
Could Odemwingie soon be on his way? QPR are being persistent, and have plenty of reddies to back up their interest.

Sky Sports understands that Queens Park Rangers have firmed up their interest in Peter Odemwingie and made a firm bid.
The 31-year-old forward, who was born in Uzbekistan, was left out of West Brom's squad which lost 3-2 at Reading.
QPR made an enquiry about the Nigeria international earlier this week and now they have followed that up with a firm offer.
West Brom are yet to respond, but QPR are hopeful that they can succeed with a proposed deal within the next week.
Odemwingie has played just nine league games under Steve Clarke so far this term, scoring four goals
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: maximus on January 12, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
What is his injury? Ankle or summat.... Qpr have cisse, boothroyd, campbell up front and zamora ....so pete would occupy the right side id guess and he hates that role anyway...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 12, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
£5mill and i'd sell him to be fair, decent player but only when he wants to be, we could replace him with a younger player
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 12, 2013, 10:34:05 PM
£5mill and i'd sell him to be fair, decent player but only when he wants to be, we could replace him with a younger player

£5 million plus Hoillet and I'd consider it!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 12, 2013, 10:40:37 PM
No way , we wont get 5 million for him. Mind you it is JP :D  I would sell if we could get a deal for Hoilett.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on January 12, 2013, 10:43:31 PM
pete has been played out of position for the last two seasons but still a very good striker, why sell him to Qpr whom if they stay up will i presume try and sign Olsonn. keep our best players thats what i would do stuff that lot and wave bye bye to them as they head back down to Championship league with arry hudinee thats a laugh as well only kept pompey up because he spent a fortune
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on January 12, 2013, 10:56:24 PM
I still find it difficult to understand why we want to sell one of our best players? Yes he's getting on a bit, but he still offers far too much for us to discard him now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on January 12, 2013, 11:00:55 PM
I still find it difficult to understand why we want to sell one of our best players? Yes he's getting on a bit, but he still offers far too much for us to discard him now.
We don't, apart from Dorrans, Clarke has said we're not selling any of the first team squad.

Of course money talks, but unless its silly figures ill be surprised if anyone goes
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: maximus on January 12, 2013, 11:14:41 PM
Reminds me of diomansy kamara, both feet, quick and a threat.... We sold him for 6.5 so i expect the same for a proven premier goalscorer
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 12, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
Wouldn't even think of selling him , still capable of being our best player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 12, 2013, 11:30:25 PM
Ince of Blackpool would be a useful acquisition if we did get rid of Odemwingie. It would probably cost us £2m-£3m on top but it would surely be a good investment.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 12, 2013, 11:33:23 PM
Ince of Blackpool would be a useful acquisition if we did get rid of Odemwingie. It would probably cost us £2m-£3m on top but it would surely be a good investment.

Isn't he off to Liverpool for around £7million?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 13, 2013, 12:21:25 AM
We don't, apart from Dorrans, Clarke has said we're not selling any of the first team squad.

Of course money talks, but unless its silly figures ill be surprised if anyone goes

Correct, why would we ever sell him at the moment ? You don't sell your best players unless it's something ridulous like the money for Fletcher/Carroll/Javis/Joe Allen etc
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on January 13, 2013, 08:30:01 AM
Wouldn't even think of selling him , still capable of being our best player.

Absolutely right; he us one of a very small number of players we have that can create something from nothing to win a game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 13, 2013, 08:42:48 AM
Harry redo app has said they could have made a bid by now, his usual vague, twitchy defensive response!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 13, 2013, 08:59:03 AM
Isn't he off to Liverpool for around £7million?
Last I read that deal was turning cold.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on January 13, 2013, 10:15:07 AM
Hate transfer windows......Clarke has said Pete is not for sale but as we all know everyone has a price, I say keep him as he is a player i rate highly and one of the few "Game changers" we have
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 13, 2013, 02:48:55 PM
Belived 2m bid rejected today from QPR. - CL twitter
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 13, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
CL twitter...

#wba have today rejected an undisclosed bid from qpr for peter odemwingie. Believe it's in region of £2m
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 13, 2013, 02:53:19 PM
Are they thick or something down QPR?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 13, 2013, 03:02:18 PM
Odemwingie would keep QPR in the PL. For something like that I'd demand £10 million, which would be a bargain compared to what they lose falling down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on January 13, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
He's around 31 and I'm amazingly happy we've had him here. But if £5mill came in for him then he can go. His wages are huge also, the money can be put to better uses IMHO. Less than £4mill and totally forget it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 03:09:45 PM
Odemwingie would keep QPR in the PL. For something like that I'd demand £10 million, which would be a bargain compared to what they lose falling down.

£5 million plus Hoillet would be a reasonable deal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 13, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
You can't replace him outright for £5 million. He is one of the rare players with genuine top ten PL quality. He has scored 4 goals in 9 games for us this season and is one of the few players with pace we have. I'd rather keep him unless someone paid a desperation price for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 13, 2013, 03:13:27 PM
As for Hoilett, I don't think he is what we need. He lacks 'oomph' to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 13, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
As for Hoilett, I don't think he is what we need. He lacks 'oomph' to me.


He's not what we need he's one of those players that flatters to deceive. Odemwingie is better than him why would we want to replace someone with someone not as good regardless of money. You do that and you're heading one way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 03:44:47 PM

He's not what we need he's one of those players that flatters to deceive. Odemwingie is better than him why would we want to replace someone with someone not as good regardless of money. You do that and you're heading one way.

I did say £5 million plus Hoilett
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 13, 2013, 03:55:58 PM
£5mill then bid £12mil for lukaku? only another £7mill for lukaku we paid £6.5mill for long
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on January 13, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
£5mill then bid £12mil for lukaku? only another £7mill for lukaku we paid £6.5mill for long

We can dream but im afraid that will never happen 1)we wont pay 12mil 2) Chelsea wont sell
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 13, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
I did say £5 million plus Hoilett


What's the point of that? We still end up with a player not as good as what we've sold.

We applied that strategy in the early 80's, look where that got us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 13, 2013, 04:03:03 PM
i think it could be worth a cheeky bid with the money from pete it would only be 7mill and we paid near enough that for long. if were serious about challeging for europe we might need to spend big on a world class player to take us that extra yard. chelsea just signed ba, probably sign falcao soon too will lukaku be happy being 4th choice again next year?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 13, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
LoL at the fact some people think we should try and sign Lukaku!

Do we have a spare £20m lying about?!!?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 13, 2013, 04:12:23 PM
LoL at the fact some people think we should try and sign Lukaku!

Do we have a spare £20m lying about?!!?

Not to mention the other clubs who would be interested and the wages he would be looking for.

I think folk need to just enjoy him for the season and see if we can get him back next season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GREGMT on January 13, 2013, 04:48:44 PM
£2 million - Harry's missed the nought off.

If I was Peace I'd bid £5 million for Taarabt that would make him go away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 05:40:06 PM

What's the point of that? We still end up with a player not as good as what we've sold.

We applied that strategy in the early 80's, look where that got us.

Clarke sees Odemwingie as a wide man when in fact he is a centre forward.

Hoilett is a midfield player and we get £5 million to spend elsewhere.

If Odemwinie was playing every week I would agree we should keep him, but Clarke seems to prefer Lukaku or Long up top.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: maximus on January 13, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
Clarke sees Odemwingie as a wide man when in fact he is a centre forward.

Hoilett is a midfield player and we get £5 million to spend elsewhere.

If Odemwinie was playing every week I would agree we should keep him, but Clarke seems to prefer Lukaku or Long up top.
And on current form you couldn't drop lukaku, it's interesting as like you stated that Steve Clarke see's him outwide and pete will be 32 next season so i still can't see Clarke using him upfront. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 05:52:25 PM
If Odemwingie is to leave it will not be because I or any other fan for that matter does not rate him.

Personally I would not be surprised if he was to move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 13, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Clarke sees Odemwingie as a wide man when in fact he is a centre forward.

Hoilett is a midfield player and we get £5 million to spend elsewhere.

If Odemwinie was playing every week I would agree we should keep him, but Clarke seems to prefer Lukaku or Long up top.


I think you are somewhat missing the point we'd still be bringing in a player that is no better than what we have. We need to improve the squad. Hoilett's natural position is where Morrison plays, again Morrison is the better player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 13, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
You have to be realistic. An offer over £5million for a 31 year old who has persistent injuries, who's game is largely built around pace and has only a year and a half on his contract - I would accept it to be honest. We won't be relegated this season so there isn't much risk attached.  For less than £3million I would not accept.

For the first time I genuinely do wonder whether he will be here at the end of a transfer window. QPR are desperate and have the money to test our resolve. Given Pete's age and the money they'd offer plus being a London club - It could happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 06:01:05 PM

I think you are somewhat missing the point we'd still be bringing in a player that is no better than what we have. We need to improve the squad. Hoilett's natural position is where Morrison plays, again Morrison is the better player.

I am not missing the point at all.

Yes we need to improve the squad, however Odemwingie is not first choice centre forward and there are certainly better options out wide.

Personally I think Odemwingie is a better option up front than Long, I don't think Clarke agrees, that is why I would not be surprised if Odemwingie did move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 13, 2013, 06:01:38 PM

I think you are somewhat missing the point we'd still be bringing in a player that is no better than what we have. We need to improve the squad. Hoilett's natural position is where Morrison plays, again Morrison is the better player.

Hoilett is a wide midfield/winger, 10 years younger then PO & a very good player, I'd have him at the drop of a hat, excellent prospect.
   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 13, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
I am not missing the point at all.

Yes we need to improve the squad, however Odemwingie is not first choice centre forward and there are certainly better options out wide.

Personally I think Odemwingie is a better option up front than Long, I don't think Clarke agrees, that is why I would not be surprised if Odemwingie did move on.


Do you think so? Personally I'd rather have Odemwingie out wide than anyone else we currently have on the books.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 13, 2013, 06:03:28 PM
Hoilett is a wide midfield/winger, 10 years younger then PO & a very good player, I'd have him at the drop of a hat, excellent prospect.
 


He has no end product whatsoever.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 06:04:21 PM

Do you think so? Personally I'd rather have Odemwingie out wide than anyone else we currently have on the books.

Great going forward, offers no support whatsoever when we are on the back foot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 13, 2013, 06:07:04 PM

He has no end product whatsoever.

Reportedly earning 2.5 million a year, not bad for someone with no end product.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 13, 2013, 06:07:26 PM
Great going forward, offers no support whatsoever when we are on the back foot.


If we set up correctly you wouldn't necessarily need him to help defensively he and the loan striker could be left forward as outlets.

I agree there are some games and some situations where you wouldn't want Odemwingie but there are also others where he is a huge threat.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 06:09:09 PM

If we set up correctly you wouldn't necessarily need him to help defensively he and the loan striker could be left forward as outlets.

I agree there are some games and some situations where you wouldn't want Odemwingie but there are also others where he is a huge threat.

4-4-2 perhaps, however clarke does not seem to agree.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on January 13, 2013, 06:11:14 PM
ita all about opinions. mine is pete should be played up top he is OUR best striker. however taking into consideration age,market value and other squad needs i might be tempted to offer pete + £2 mill for faurlin and either mackie or hoilett
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 13, 2013, 06:13:16 PM
ita all about opinions. mine is pete should be played up top he is OUR best striker. however taking into consideration age,market value and other squad needs i might be tempted to offer pete + £2 mill for faurlin and either mackie or hoilett

I would not want Mackie to be honest, we would have been better off keeping Simon Cox and he was not good enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 13, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
ita all about opinions. mine is pete should be played up top he is OUR best striker. however taking into consideration age,market value and other squad needs i might be tempted to offer pete + £2 mill for faurlin and either mackie or hoilett

Mackie is exactly the kind of striker we don't need, all toil and no quality. If you want to be midtable plus, you need players with technical ability. Hoilett isn't good enough, imho, to have a real impact on games which is why he can't make a struggling QPR team in the relegation zone. We don't need any QPR reserves, we need players who have that bit of quality to their games. Odemwingie will be very difficult indeed to replace, players that can decide PL games by their own skill are very rare and very valuable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 13, 2013, 06:29:12 PM
Reportedly earning 2.5 million a year, not bad for someone with no end product.

What a joke QPR are if they pay someone like that such a fortune...................tinpot club with no class like Chelsea !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 13, 2013, 06:32:08 PM
I would not want Mackie to be honest, we would have been better off keeping Simon Cox and he was not good enough.

Mackie is a good Championship player and that's about it so why would we want their cast-offs ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 13, 2013, 06:33:43 PM
Think its pathetic the way Redknapp talks about other clubs players, notice how the media make up BS storys about Olsson being unhappy or Odemwingie wants to move to London.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Greenock Baggie on January 13, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Hoilett is a wide midfield/winger, 10 years younger then PO & a very good player, I'd have him at the drop of a hat, excellent prospect.
 
If he's so much better the why do QPR fans call him Junior Toilet, especially in the position they are in. I'd have a 31 year old Peter Odemwingie over Hoilet all day, every day !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie steve on January 13, 2013, 06:36:57 PM
If we sell for a considerable amount, then id accept that if we were to replace him with an equal replacement.
We don't have a natural right winger, Blackpool have both Ince and Phillips who would could do a job for us !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 13, 2013, 06:37:24 PM
You don't get anywhere in football selling your best players and what does that say to the likes of Jonas Olsson, Youssouf Mulumbu and co when they see that we are selling our best players? It'll be a complete lack of ambition for me as Peter Odemwingie is without doubt the best player at this football club. People talk about his pace diminishing as he grows with age but for me it isn't just pace he offers us, he has ability on the ball and can carry the ball beating players with ease, something which our other players struggle with, add to that he has the ability to produce goals which for me means we would be mad to sell him.

I do think we'll sell him in the summer but he'll be a massive loss for me because I don't think there are many Odemwingie's around and if they are around, they're usually out of our price range.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 13, 2013, 06:40:46 PM
Odemwingie isn't one of our best players, he doesn't play often enough. Injury-prone and over valued. Has been for a year or so now. If we get offered £4m plus then we would be mad not to sell.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 13, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Look at old cod face talking about other teams players ! , this will be a big week for Albion as I'm sure QPR will try for Pete again with their huge wages and fee's . I can see they would be tempted to sell with Pete's age if a big bid came in but what would that say about our club ? , we bang the drum about being safe money wise and building a squad so i for one would be gutted if any of our better players left let alone our best forward.
Don't bow done to the cockney idiot JP / SC.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 13, 2013, 06:44:31 PM
Mackie is exactly the kind of striker we don't need, all toil and no quality. If you want to be midtable plus, you need players with technical ability. Hoilett isn't good enough, imho, to have a real impact on games which is why he can't make a struggling QPR team in the relegation zone. We don't need any QPR reserves, we need players who have that bit of quality to their games. Odemwingie will be very difficult indeed to replace, players that can decide PL games by their own skill are very rare and very valuable.

Taken from this site last season when Blackburn were relegated, seems, like me, others rate Hoilett too, certainly wouldn't dismiss him out of hand just because he currently can't get in QPRs team, any number of reasons why!

6) Junior Hoilett

Junior Hoilett has been in demand for quite a while, almost leaving Blackburn Rovers in January. Tottenham and Arsenal have been heavily linked, while German giant Bayern Munich were also linked a month back. The Canadian winger is only 21 and has huge potential, scoring seven times and providing five assists for Rovers last season, and it is no wonder the big clubs are interested.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 13, 2013, 06:51:15 PM
If he's so much better the why do QPR fans call him Junior Toilet, especially in the position they are in. I'd have a 31 year old Peter Odemwingie over Hoilet all day, every day !

I never said I preferred Hoilett over Odemwingie mate, I was responding to posts declaring Hoilett as not good enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 13, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
Taken from this site last season when Blackburn were relegated, seems, like me, others rate Hoilett too, certainly wouldn't dismiss him out of hand just because he currently can't get in QPRs team, any number of reasons why!

6) Junior Hoilett

Junior Hoilett has been in demand for quite a while, almost leaving Blackburn Rovers in January. Tottenham and Arsenal have been heavily linked, while German giant Bayern Munich were also linked a month back. The Canadian winger is only 21 and has huge potential, scoring seven times and providing five assists for Rovers last season, and it is no wonder the big clubs are interested.

That was last season... Hoilett hasn't exactly kicked on to and produce a stunning season this season has he? Ok, I think he was injured for a while, but as someone said, Hoilett is one of those players that flatters to deceive.

I liked him last season tbh, and even suggested him as a potential player for us to pick up should Blackburn go down, but I don't think he is the type of player that would fit in with Clarke's way of playing football. We have a slow back line that lies deep, and two defensive midfielders protecting the back four. We need four powerful, skillful, fast, players that are capable of creating something by their own speed and skill. If they are diminutive they need superior skills and I don't think Hoilett fits the bill for a top ten team, which is our aim isn't it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 13, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
You don't get anywhere in football selling your best players and what does that say to the likes of Jonas Olsson, Youssouf Mulumbu and co when they see that we are selling our best players? It'll be a complete lack of ambition for me as Peter Odemwingie is without doubt the best player at this football club. People talk about his pace diminishing as he grows with age but for me it isn't just pace he offers us, he has ability on the ball and can carry the ball beating players with ease, something which our other players struggle with, add to that he has the ability to produce goals which for me means we would be mad to sell him.

I do think we'll sell him in the summer but he'll be a massive loss for me because I don't think there are many Odemwingie's around and if they are around, they're usually out of our price range.

It depends on whether he is adequately replaced.  Ince seems destined to go elsewhere but Philips would be interesting.  Probably better value from overseas though and I'm sure DA has lined up some potentials.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on January 13, 2013, 08:28:35 PM
That was last season... Hoilett hasn't exactly kicked on to and produce a stunning season this season has he? Ok, I think he was injured for a while, but as someone said, Hoilett is one of those players that flatters to deceive.

I liked him last season tbh, and even suggested him as a potential player for us to pick up should Blackburn go down, but I don't think he is the type of player that would fit in with Clarke's way of playing football. We have a slow back line that lies deep, and two defensive midfielders protecting the back four. We need four powerful, skillful, fast, players that are capable of creating something by their own speed and skill. If they are diminutive they need superior skills and I don't think Hoilett fits the bill for a top ten team, which is our aim isn't it.

That's a very tall order. Which, if any, of our current players would you say fits that description? I ask just to find out how high your bar is set.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Wbamitch on January 13, 2013, 09:11:23 PM
Just don't sell him at all, it is an absolutely massive gamble to try and find someone to replace him.

Its a serious sign of lack of ambition.

He is one of, if not our best player. As Liam says you don't get nowhere selling your best players.

We need to start playing him more otherwise he will want out and rightly so, i know he has had an "injury in the past few games " apparently,  but even when available we have not used him enough and i could certainly understand if it was his decision to leave (except to QPR).

I'd like to think we can send a little statement on Wednesday to show we have ambitions of winning silverware and that we are a much better option than QPR.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 13, 2013, 11:02:59 PM
Pete hat trick on Tuesday please
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 13, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
That's a very tall order. Which, if any, of our current players would you say fits that description? I ask just to find out how high your bar is set.

I know it's a tall order but it's what we should be aiming for. We don't have many of those types of players atm.

*I am more than happy with Odemwingie and Lukaku.
*Morrison can play well at times but I didn't like his recent disappearance in November and December (these are not unheard of), then again he could have been carrying a knock but it was good to see him back to his best at Reading. Anyway, he needs stiff competition to keep him on his toes.
*Long has the pace but his skill set is so limited, still maybe we should try him on the wing.
*Rosenberg is struggling very badly to come to terms with English football, maybe it's best to let him return to Germany/Holland in the summer. And to me he lacks the pace needed, as do Gera and Dorrans, who of course is on his way anyway.
*JT is waning.   

I'd like for us to find a Moses type of player or two. We almost got him before he opted for bleepin Wigan.

 

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 14, 2013, 01:17:48 PM
is he or isnt he, the London media seem to think he still is
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 14, 2013, 01:26:15 PM
saw a qpr fan on the tube today with a qpr top on and odemwingie on the back. what an utter tool. my hatred for them now is at an all time high
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 14, 2013, 01:27:42 PM
Sky Sources !!!!!!  ::) reckon that QPR will come back in with another bid and if the clubs agree a deal then the player is interested in talking to them.

Not sure who are the worst for this, Sky sources or Talksport ?

IF and its a BIG BIG IF this is true and he does want to talk to them then for me i'd be more disappointed in the player than the club for selling, a club struggling at the bottom and hopefully going back to the Championship next season or a settled Premier League club slowly and steadily building, if the money is attracting him that much then he can go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 14, 2013, 01:31:01 PM
saw a qpr fan on the tube today with a qpr top on and odemwingie on the back. what an utter tool. my hatred for them now is at an all time high


Thats outrageous
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 14, 2013, 01:32:43 PM
I suppose it depends if PO is in Clarkes long term plans if he isnt then this is the last window where we can get good money for him, he is 32 next season and his one real aspect of his game will start to diminish and thats his pace. Personally if an offer around the 4-5 million mark comes in then I think they have to seriously consider it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 14, 2013, 01:34:07 PM
Theres no other reason for joining QPR.  They can double his wages.
 
They might play him in his favoured role as a striker so that could be another reason.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 14, 2013, 01:38:04 PM

Thats outrageous

i know but got me thinking is it just pure arrogance or does he know something we dont?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 14, 2013, 01:42:38 PM
Is Odemwingie fit for tomorrow? If he is, and is not included in the starting line-up then it's a fair bet that he could soon be heading to London.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 14, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
Is Odemwingie fit for tomorrow? If he is, and is not included in the starting line-up then it's a fair bet that he could soon be heading to London.
Or rested for the Villa game  :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 14, 2013, 01:55:34 PM
There will be financial clauses in players contracts if QPR go down.Is he another one that wants to live in London.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: SirTonyM on January 14, 2013, 02:26:50 PM
Odemwingie isn't one of our best players, he doesn't play often enough. Injury-prone and over valued. Has been for a year or so now. If we get offered £4m plus then we would be mad not to sell.

He is injured alot but is also a matchwinner which we don't have many of. If you look at his record - games played, goals and assits you would be hard pressed to get a player of his calibre for a small transfer fee. He is also proven at this level. I know people will say Michu but they are few and far between.

If you sell him you have to bring in someone of equal quality.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 14, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
There will be financial clauses in players contracts if QPR go down.Is he another one that wants to live in London.

Correction Not if, but WHEN QPR go down
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 14, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
I think there is two sides to this, personally i dont think we should sell him unless we have somebody better lined up, he drives you mad, he can be non existent but he can also win a game on his own and gets goals and without him i dont think we would be in the premiership now.

I expect some point this window for an agent supposedly representing Odemwingie to say he is interested in talking to QPR, a few days later it emerges this 'agent' is his neighbours, cousins, sisters best mates, auntys builder who once saw Odemwingie in Tesco! Like every other window really!

Its all rumour at the moment, Redknapp does what he does well, he keeps it in the media, and it sometimes turns a players head, we dont know if that is the case with Odemwingie. The only way i could see us selling him was if they offered stupid money or Odemwingie says he wants to go there.

If he did say he wants to go there then its clearly a money decision, not being arrogant but we are bigger and better than QPR in every way, that may well change with the backing they have over the next few years but by then Odemwingie would be mid 30's and QPR will of replaced him with a 'name'. On the other hand they could get relegated, owner gets hacked off with wasting money and they turn into a nothing club in the championship.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 14, 2013, 03:37:52 PM
I suppose it depends if PO is in Clarkes long term plans if he isnt then this is the last window where we can get good money for him, he is 32 next season and his one real aspect of his game will start to diminish and thats his pace. Personally if an offer around the 4-5 million mark comes in then I think they have to seriously consider it.

At his age he isn't goint to be in anyones long term plans.
Personally I'm not fussed if he goes or stays, this season he's been good on the odd occasion he's turned up and a waste of a shirt the rest of the time.
I always think Pete and his agent always seem to have something on the back burner.
If a decent offer comes in. thanks for the memories Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on January 14, 2013, 03:47:50 PM
Its an interesting one.

I dont want him to leave purely because hes been so important to us, and to replace someone like him would cost more than the 2-3 million being spoke about.

However he isnt playing as much as he used to and were not as dependant on him at the moment.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie Artist on January 14, 2013, 03:52:30 PM
Odemwingie started playing professional football late in his career so his body may be able to hold up an extra few years, same with McAuley.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 14, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
All older members talk about selling our best players after 79 and look what happened, Ill keep repeating it you cant sell your best players if we are to continue to progress. And Pete is up there as one, if not our best player. The way he scares defenders and can single handingly change a game is something very hard to replace, which is what we will have to do if he goes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: howard62baby on January 14, 2013, 04:23:34 PM
I remember 79 very well and still remember how it hurts,to have the guts ripped out of the team whose future was well on the up it was absolutely crushing for this for  teenager(now 50 yrs old)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 14, 2013, 04:29:10 PM
I remember 79 very well and still remember how it hurts,to have the guts ripped out of the team whose future was well on the up it was absolutely crushing for this for  teenager(now 50 yrs old)


Same age as Robbo then, he who started the Exodus :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 14, 2013, 04:30:09 PM
I don't think anyone 'wants' to sell their best players but circumstances dictate things, we don't know whats in Pete or any others contracts, we don't know what conversations take place between player, clubs, agents etc so to us it just looks like offer is made by buying club and is either accepted or rejected by selling club.

If a player makes it clear they want to go, what do we do ? keep an unhappy player who may then sulk (Davies, Robinson, Kamara) until they get their own way or move them on and look for a replacement ?

We're not back in the days when we had to suffer David Mills, John Deehan and co. We've got a proven scouting network who managed to pick up Pete himself for £1.6m and Olsson for around £800k not to mention Mulumbu and Yacob.

Players come, players go, they have no loyalty in the main to anyone.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 14, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
There will be financial clauses in players contracts if QPR go down.Is he another one that wants to live in London.

CL has stated Pete's very happy in West Brom, and at the club.

QPR/Harry can go elsewhere, if JP aint selling, that's that ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 14, 2013, 04:34:36 PM
CL has stated Pete's very happy in West Brom, and at the club.

QPR/Harry can go elsewhere, if JP aint selling, that's that ;D


What Pete lives in West Brom :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 14, 2013, 04:36:08 PM

What Pete lives in West Brom :o

Good point, doubt it. But I think what was meant was - he's happy with where he is at the moment.

Whether the £50k a week can change his mind is another thing. Either way he's in the squad for tomorrows match. Hope he scores a hatrick!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 14, 2013, 04:36:22 PM
If he wants to stay, and it sounds like he does, keep him. His a massive asset to the team and a player others can learn from, I don't care about his contractual length and its repercussions on a future fee, he only cost us a couple of million so there's not really a question of recouping the fee we paid for him in my eyes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 14, 2013, 04:42:26 PM
saw a qpr fan on the tube today with a qpr top on and odemwingie on the back. what an utter tool. my hatred for them now is at an all time high
No offense intended, but I don't believe this. It just doesn't make sense on multiple levels. Maybe you misread it?

IF and its a BIG BIG IF this is true and he does want to talk to them then for me i'd be more disappointed in the player than the club ...
Same here. I'd be pretty surprised, too. It's mostly Harry's psychological warfare, methinks.

I didn't dislike Harry before this week, but he really irritates me now. Reminds me of some of the unsavory characters I used to know when I lived in north London.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 14, 2013, 04:45:35 PM
This one sounds a little more trustworthy: http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2013-01-14/olsson-and-odemwingie-unfazed-by-qpr-link/

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 14, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
No offense intended, but I don't believe this. It just doesn't make sense on multiple levels. Maybe you misread it?
Same here.


i have got better things to do than make up lies on the internet

anyway i wouldnt sell people are complaining about a lack of pace if pete  goes we have nobody unless thomas plays reguarly but can we put faith into an injury prone player?  i woudnt want to!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 14, 2013, 05:01:08 PM
No offense intended, but I don't believe this. It just doesn't make sense on multiple levels. Maybe you misread it?
Same here. I'd be pretty surprised, too. It's mostly Harry's psychological warfare, methinks.

I didn't dislike Harry before this week, but he really irritates me now. Reminds me of some of the unsavory characters I used to know when I lived in north London.

Odemwingie? not that easy to misread really, dont you think?  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 14, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
I remember 79 very well and still remember how it hurts,to have the guts ripped out of the team whose future was well on the up it was absolutely crushing for this for  teenager(now 50 yrs old)

Exactly how I feel and what I dread, I'm 51 by the way, when and if we turn a downward corner, I will get nervous, been there before, suffered the pain for many years. :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 14, 2013, 05:26:19 PM
i have got better things to do than make up lies on the internet
It just sounds a bit far-fetched. Unless someone made some kind of temporary name tag, I just don't buy it. I guess I'm just a doubting Thomas.  ;D

Odemwingie? not that easy to misread really, dont you think?  ;)
But it has five of the same letters as "Bosingwa," for example. And maybe it was after the pubs had closed?  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 14, 2013, 05:39:09 PM
It just sounds a bit far-fetched. Unless someone made some kind of temporary name tag, I just don't buy it. I guess I'm just a doubting Thomas.  ;D
But it has five of the same letters as "Bosingwa," for example. And maybe it was after the pubs had closed?  ;)

HaHa nice one wd you've convinced me  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mossi28 on January 14, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
Massive rumours now that QPR will sign Remy.

I think this might cool the Odemwingie talk for a while
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 14, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
Remy to QPR should end the Odemwingie rumours. They have Cisse already there so shouldnt need another triker on top of that. As a side note, it is gross that the bottom club with a huge wage bill already can go out and sign 2 French internationals in Loic Remy and Yann MVilla in the same transfer window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 14, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
Remy to QPR should end the Odemwingie rumours. They have Cisse already there so shouldnt need another triker on top of that. As a side note, it is gross that the bottom club with a huge wage bill already can go out and sign 2 French internationals in Loic Remy and Yann MVilla in the same transfer window.

I don't consider it gross, however I do hope that they get relegated along with Vile and Reading.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: collins101 on January 14, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
Cisse has been apparently been told he can leave. Odemwingie and Remy wouldnt be a bad partnership for a team bottom of the league
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 14, 2013, 09:05:31 PM
                                A keeper (they have had this one 3months?)
                 
                                Clint hill

                              Mvila Derry


Remy Johnson tarabt Odemwingie cisse Zamora mackie

Harry's new formation?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 14, 2013, 09:15:31 PM
Odemwingie according to sky sports wants to speake to QPR to see what's on offer,we'll I say we value him at 3mill they want him then ask for 5mill simple ,he's 32yrs ,18months left think that would be a good deal . Never been happy good shut once and for all :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 14, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
Contracts mean absolutely nothing nowadays. Money always talks and with QPR's owner seemingly not short in this department I can see Odemwingie being tempted to up sticks. JP will no doubt squeeze him for every penny if that situation arises. I just hope Olsson doesn't go. Unlike Odemwingie he will be really difficult to replace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 14, 2013, 09:56:53 PM
Odemwingie according to sky sports wants to speake to QPR to see what's on offer,we'll I say we value him at 3mill they want him then ask for 5mill simple ,he's 32yrs ,18months left think that would be a good deal . Never been happy good shut once and for all :o


Steve Clarke has said no one is for sale apart from Dorrans so thats the end of the matter for me,
enjoy Odemwingie and cherish him because you dont know what you`ve got until its gone.
Wasnt you happy about his 1st season when he scored 16 goals ?
or even his 2nd with 11 ?
I sometimes wonder what these Albion fans are thinking but I guess they must be happy with
"Couldnt hit a cows backside Fortune" or "Cart Horse Rosenberg"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: maximus on January 14, 2013, 10:08:28 PM

Steve Clarke has said no one is for sale apart from Dorrans so thats the end of the matter for me,
enjoy Odemwingie and cherish him because you dont know what you`ve got until its gone.
Wasnt you happy about his 1st season when he scored 16 goals ?
or even his 2nd with 11 ?
I sometimes wonder what these Albion fans are thinking but I guess they must be happy with
"Couldnt hit a cows backside Fortune" or "Cart Horse Rosenberg"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd keep him IF we used him as a centre forward, But we use him outwide and his not a failure at that role but his clearly not happy playing they're, He'll be 32 soon and £5million is the most we would get. Like i say though, i wouldn't sell him if he was a centre forward not a winger.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 14, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
No arguing about his record but whats his value going to be end of his contract inflate our valuation and take  the money and make cheeky bid for Lukaku  who wants to play for us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 14, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
If Odemwingie goes, and with Gera out injured, we are putting alot of reliance on Thomas and Fortune  from the wide positions. Could they produce a similar number of goals? I doubt it.
The only way we should even think about helping Odemwingie to QPR is if we use the deal to get someone special in return, like Taarrabt .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 14, 2013, 10:42:16 PM
No arguing about his record but whats his value going to be end of his contract inflate our valuation and take  the money and make cheeky bid for Lukaku  who wants to play for us

We have no chane of signing Lukaku on a permanent basis, unfortunately. Besides I'd rather have both here for as long as possible!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 14, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
It's very simple supply and demand, we will ask a silly price and they will either pay way more than he is worth or he will stay.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 14, 2013, 10:48:50 PM
Looks like QPR have hijacked Remy's move to Newcastle... that, or it's just a tactic from Remy's agent to force Newcastle to pay more for the 'services'.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 14, 2013, 11:25:21 PM
Looks like QPR have hijacked Remy's move to Newcastle... that, or it's just a tactic from Remy's agent to force Newcastle to pay more for the 'services'.

I think it is quite possible that it is a tactic from his representatives to get more out of Newcastle although its a risky strategy just for a few extra £.

One thing QPR seem to be offering players is the chance of a low get out clause if they go down as well as massive wages. That kind of thing may appeal to Odemwingie but for us as a club we can't afford to let him go in this window because we will be unlikely to be able to replace him. If he does leave the club I think it will be in the summer when he still has some sell on value and we have more time to find a replacement in a window where prices wont be as inflated as they are this month.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 14, 2013, 11:28:56 PM
Here's another take in Tuesday's Daily Mirror: There's also a last paragraph in the report to say that Bolton are hoping to wrap up a deal for Craig Dawson. Hopefully that'll just be a loan deal.

Peter Odemwingie fancies joining rock-bottom QPR, and West Brom boss Steve Clarke must decide whether to risk playing the striker against the Londoners on Tuesday.
The Baggies have already rejected a £2million offer for Odemwingie from Rangers boss Harry Redknapp, who they value at £6m, as well as his £5m bid for their centre-back Jonas Olsson.
But Redknapp is set to return with an improved offer for the Nigerian forward, who has four goals this term, as he battles to save QPR from relegation.
Ironically, the two sides meet at the Hawthorns on Tuesday in an FA Cup replay to decide who will entertain Sheffield Wednesday or MK Dons in round four, following a 1-1 draw at Loftus Road nine days ago.
We understand that Rangers are willing to give Odemwingie a pay-rise from his £40,000-a-week contract, which has 18 months left.
QPR are also willing to hand him an automatic 12-month contract extension if they do avoid the drop, as well as a big ‘survival bonus’.
Odemwingie, who asked to be kept informed of other clubs’ interest when he signed his contract in August 2011, is tempted and wants Albion to be realistic about his price-tag, as he turns 32 in the summer.
Former Tottenham boss Redknapp has liked Odemwingie since he came to England from Russian club Lokomotiv Moscow, in August 2010.
He was linked with a move for the striker to White Hart Lane in 2011, when Wigan had a £4m offer rejected, and may now finally get his man
Meanwhile, Bolton hope to wrap up a deal for West Brom centre-half Craig Dawson this week.
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 15, 2013, 12:33:16 AM
The Report in the Mirror seems very detailed I wonder who has been briefing them.  ::) Bottom line is that Clarke has come out and said very publicly that Odemwingie is not for sale and I doubt whether he did that without touching base with Ashworth/Garlick. There is an offer on the table but it is fraction of Albion's valuation of the player and for us to perform an about face the offer would probably have to exceed even that figure.

There might be a lot of money in it for Pete and his advisors and it could be tempting i.e. another £20,000 a week between now and the end of the season a £1m survival bonus if QPR stop up plus a more lucrative contract for the next two years. If relegated a release clause which would  leave him to  find another club willing to pay him his current £40,000 or maybe better. However none of that will come to pass unless QPR are prepared to stump up a minimum of £6m and even they are surely not that stupid.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 15, 2013, 12:38:57 AM
Never underestimate stupidity.

Or desperation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 15, 2013, 12:49:25 AM
IF he´s allowed to go, I´d like to think Dynamo Dan has at least one more magic trick up his sleeve. 8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 15, 2013, 01:04:39 AM
Question: is it also possible Odemwingie's agent is so evidently open to offers because he's trying to leverage a new, better contract at Albion?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 15, 2013, 01:15:35 AM
Question: is it also possible Odemwingie's agent is so evidently open to offers because he's trying to leverage a new, better contract at Albion?
That's his 3'rd in three years if that's the case.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 15, 2013, 01:18:19 AM
I think it is quite possible that it is a tactic from his representatives to get more out of Newcastle although its a risky strategy just for a few extra £.

One thing QPR seem to be offering players is the chance of a low get out clause if they go down as well as massive wages. That kind of thing may appeal to Odemwingie but for us as a club we can't afford to let him go in this window because we will be unlikely to be able to replace him. If he does leave the club I think it will be in the summer when he still has some sell on value and we have more time to find a replacement in a window where prices wont be as inflated as they are this month.

If there is truth to this Remy to QPR rumour, it means QPR are prepared to throw serious money at their problem this window. I would still be surprised if Remy went to that horrible little tin pot club, but then again, if he doesn't and chooses Newcastle, it means QPR can easily afford to throw the checkbook at Odemwingie if they are desperate enough. Which they probably will be at the end of the window.

The fee for Remy is £8.3 million, but JP will probably ask for £5 or 6 million for PO (or more!) as we definitely do not have to sell. The question is, just HOW desperate are QPR? Even if that sum seems excessive for PO, they save it many times over if he helps them avoid relegation (which he would imo).


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 15, 2013, 01:20:41 AM
No need to panic folks.

Little evidence to suggest that PO wants out apart from the Mirror suggesting it (briefed by some geezer called Harry apparently)

The most telling thing is that apparently Albion value him at £6m

What Jeremy wants Jeremy usually gets.

Only question is does he want £6m or does he want to scare off bidders.

Either way is probably a winner but I'd prefer the latter.

I'd certainly rather have one and a half seasons more of our most effective Premier forward even if it meant forgoing a (say) £5m fee. What is he worth in place money alone over two seasons finishes?

Three places improvement in both seasons is worth £4.8M isn't it?

Never mind if we found ourselves lower in the League next year and PO could be the difference between staying up or not.

The £2M bid is a pathetic joke. An insult.

If they come back with £3M or £3.5M I wouldn't even return the call
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 15, 2013, 01:24:45 AM
I agree, lordbaggie. I wouldn't sell either unless it was a completely ridiculous bid. I like PO, he has been the back bone of our attack for a few seasons now and done a stellar job. He was basically a one man attack force in his first season for us. One of our best signings ever in my opinion, easily one of the best in modern times.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 15, 2013, 09:06:52 AM
More tripe from the Mirror's James Nursey

James Nursey?@JamesNursey

#QPR offering Odemwingie a rise on remaining 18 month #WBA deal plus automatic extra 1 year if stay up plus survival bonus. He's interested!

How can this happen if a fee hasnt been agreed and the player not given permission to speak to them!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 15, 2013, 09:17:21 AM
More tripe from the Mirror's James Nursey

James Nursey?@JamesNursey

#QPR offering Odemwingie a rise on remaining 18 month #WBA deal plus automatic extra 1 year if stay up plus survival bonus. He's interested!

How can this happen if a fee hasnt been agreed and the player not given permission to speak to them!!


I heard this guy on Talksport over the weekend, i got the impression he dont like the Albion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 15, 2013, 09:19:14 AM
In fairness it will happen all the time, nothing stopping the representatives of a club letting a players agents know what kind of deal they will be likely to offer without getting permission from the club. I would guess we have done exactly the same thing.

As for Nursey I can't stand him as a journalist, seems to have a real soft spot for Villa and Norwich for some reason.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 15, 2013, 10:21:41 AM
In fairness it will happen all the time, nothing stopping the representatives of a club letting a players agents know what kind of deal they will be likely to offer without getting permission from the club. I would guess we have done exactly the same thing.

As for Nursey I can't stand him as a journalist, seems to have a real soft spot for Villa and Norwich for some reason.
Think he is a Norwich fan, he has stated on a couple of occasions that he has been to their games as a fan.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 15, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
We are apparantly talking  of wanting £6 million, if we get anywhere near that take it and get Danny Graham, everyones a winner!....if only things were that simple eh?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 15, 2013, 10:49:49 AM
We are apparantly talking  of wanting £6 million, if we get anywhere near that take it and get Danny Graham, everyones a winner!....if only things were that simple eh?

No thank you, Danny Graham is to similar to Shane Long and lacks any real pace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 15, 2013, 11:30:02 AM
No thank you, Danny Graham is to similar to Shane Long and lacks any real pace.


.........and scores goals
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 15, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
I have an uneasy feeling Pete will leave mainly because imo he is somebody that needs to be centre stage i.e scoring goals and being´loved´by one and all and i for one am not convinced that is happening whilst he is being asked to play most of his football from a wide position.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on January 15, 2013, 11:53:50 AM
With QPR ready to sign M'Vila and Remy he certainly won't be centre stage
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 15, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
If Jeremy Peace wants 4M for Graham Dorrans then I reckon he`d want 8-10M for Odemwingie.
We just need to tell Redknapp to sod off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 15, 2013, 12:16:11 PM
With QPR ready to sign M'Vila and Remy he certainly won't be centre stage
Not for QPR but Newcastle  rumours have re surfaced,sort of revenge attack for Remy!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 15, 2013, 12:22:08 PM

.........and scores goals

What about team balance?

I am convinced we would not pair Long with Graham.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 15, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
So now we have Sky Sports and Nursey claiming that Pete is interested, both are in the main for me not always reliable and as stated Nursey seems to not be a fan of us for some reason so we have our doubts on whether he is or not.

Problem is footballers these days seem to let agents do the talking and we don't have no idea what is said behind closed doors.

If he does go it will be for a Jeremy Peace style deal and it won't be for a cheap fee. Fernandes may be a good businessman when it comes to other business but has he sat across a boardroom table with Jezza  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 15, 2013, 12:41:22 PM
So now we have Sky Sports and Nursey claiming that Pete is interested, both are in the main for me not always reliable and as stated Nursey seems to not be a fan of us for some reason so we have our doubts on whether he is or not.

Problem is footballers these days seem to let agents do the talking and we don't have no idea what is said behind closed doors.

If he does go it will be for a Jeremy Peace style deal and it won't be for a cheap fee. Fernandes may be a good businessman when it comes to other business but has he sat across a boardroom table with Jezza  :D
The biggest factor for me is what we would be left with , Lukaku is a loan , Long has done well but needs to be managed . After those two you have Rosenberg who hasn't settled (not played in true role though) , Fortune who works hard but doesn't score enough and now we have Nabi breaking through but just a kid.
Add to this Clarke likes to play 4-2-3-1 and uses Pete on the flanks , for me even if QPR are desperate enough to pay big it would too much changing around for us in a small space of time in a expensive market .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on January 15, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
So now we have Sky Sports and Nursey claiming that Pete is interested, both are in the main for me not always reliable and as stated Nursey seems to not be a fan of us for some reason so we have our doubts on whether he is or not.

Problem is footballers these days seem to let agents do the talking and we don't have no idea what is said behind closed doors.

If he does go it will be for a Jeremy Peace style deal and it won't be for a cheap fee. Fernandes may be a good businessman when it comes to other business but has he sat across a boardroom table with Jezza  :D

I understand that he is a Seal fan
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: batesg123 on January 15, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
The biggest factor for me is what we would be left with , Lukaku is a loan , Long has done well but needs to be managed . After those two you have Rosenberg who hasn't settled (not played in true role though) , Fortune who works hard but doesn't score enough and now we have Nabi breaking through but just a kid.
Add to this Clarke likes to play 4-2-3-1 and uses Pete on the flanks , for me even if QPR are desperate enough to pay big it would too much changing around for us in a small space of time in a expensive market .
Spot on, would certainly not let him go in January as we would be forced to pay over the odds for a replacement. Would not mind letting him go in the summer provided we can get a quality young replacement for him, but then we have the problem that any transfer fee would be severely reduced
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 15, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
Is this the same Nursey who said Villa would finish above us ? What a idiot ;D  Odemwingie will stay unless QPR offer silly money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 15, 2013, 12:55:32 PM
I think as might of been Baggie79 said, its about supply and demand! We have somebody they want, we are under no pressure and have no reason to sell him other than if they offer stupid money which JP feels would be mad to turn down.

Clarke seems to see Odemwingie as a wideman, i dont think he has played upfront at all this season and i cannot see that changing, if somebody offered £5m and we  got a natural wideman in for £2m then business wise that makes sense. However personally unless we have that somebody lined up i would not sell Odemwingie as he scores goals even from out wide and is a matchwinner.

From his point of view, every transfer window there seems to be one of his agents saying he would be interested in this that and the other, yet i am not sure how many of them are actually his official agent, sometimes there is no smoke without fire and it may be they tout him round to get a better deal for him which it would appear from rumours QPR may offer him, . If they agreed a fee and then were to offer him £60k a week, an extra year on his contract it wouldnt surprise me if he went, i dont think he would turn down the money, its just my own conclusion but i get theimpression from previous comments, contracts, Pete and his agents are looking out for own interests financially rather than necessarily for winning medals which they have every right to do, but i have a feeling if Olsson was offered a deal at QPR at the moment, he would turn it down as although the money would be better i think he would prefer to challenge himself at a higher level.

That may seem harsh but Odemwingie said in the summer he would of considered a move to Qatar so you have to think if extra money was to come into it then he would be interested, which again he has every right to do.

If QPR sign that Remy bloke i cannot see them going for Odemwingie though and to be fair at the moment it does his supposed interest in talking to them is just rumours but with the exception of the Qatar bid in the summer this is the first time in a transfer window a club has actually confirmed making a bid, in the past its always been just rumours.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 15, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
Wasn't there an offer from China Albion 79 ? , sure it was under Roy who told him to stay in this country ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 15, 2013, 01:11:38 PM
He signed a contract, we don't need the money.Keep him until at least the end of the season.Mind you i would laugh laugh laugh if he joined them and they went down.

He is still worth more to us than the money
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 15, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
He signed a contract, we don't need the money.Keep him until at least the end of the season.Mind you i would laugh laugh laugh if he joined them and they went down.

He is still worth more to us than the money

He'll have a get out clause inserted to make sure if that happens he's away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 15, 2013, 01:41:23 PM
Is there anyone QPR ain't interested in? Talk about desperate. If QPR were a man he'd be in a night club, naked except for underpants with a "come and suck this" sign on the front.

This is a clear indication of a badly run club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 15, 2013, 01:51:31 PM
Is there anyone QPR ain't interested in? Talk about desperate. If QPR were a man he'd be in a night club, naked except for underpants with a "come and suck this" sign on the front.

This is a clear indication of a badly run club.
Or lazy journalism putting their name to everything as its QPR, they are desperate, fairly rich and have Arry
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 15, 2013, 02:21:40 PM
James Nursey?@JamesNursey

 Another factor in the #QPR #WBA Odemwingie equation is told Harry willing to play PO in his favoured central striker role
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 15, 2013, 02:23:38 PM
May well of been Dexy, i cant remember! If he was to go to a Qatar or China then its a last payday, some may say QPR can be classed as the same thing!

According to the twitter thing just that Remy has chose QPR over Newcastle officially so i imagine that would be the end of their interest but the general opinion from overseas experts is that Remy is not in good form and will take a while to get going at QPR so maybe they will pursue Odemwingie for instant results. I hope not!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 15, 2013, 02:29:48 PM
Let them pursue Odemwingie. If he is stupid and thick enough to go there that's his funeral if he thinks that's a forward step then he needs certifying.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 15, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
Clarke likes playing a 433 with the wide men acting as forwards like in Mouriniho's set up. Odemwingie is the only player we have who can do this role and do it well. Losing him would leave our side very unbalanced and if we sell him without bringing in a replacement I will be very disappointed in the club, again looking at money rather than success.

I do understand the argument about his age and the money offered though, although i'm not convinced QPR are ready to offer serious money. 2-2.5 million offered for Odemwingie was it? Why would we ever accept that? We wont sell for less than 5 million and even that, for a player who is on course for a third straight double figure goal season, who is versatile, and in the inflated prices January transfer window, is quite low.

I would understand if we accept for 6.5-7 million for him as it frees up about 3 million in wages over 18 months on top but I would expect a replacement this January, even if it was just a loan.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 15, 2013, 05:50:37 PM
The only way we would sell Odemwingie is if we got enough money to buy a direct replacement of first team quality. Maybe enough to buy someone like Ince (if he would fit in, I haven't seen him much but the little I've seen he has looked talented. But that player would need to fit Clarke's system to a t.)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 15, 2013, 06:12:48 PM
Conspiracy theorists will be out tonight if he doesn't play, but let me just say think his wife is expecting and over by a few day so don't be surprised if not included
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 15, 2013, 06:41:50 PM
No tapping up here. ::)

More reason to dislike 'Arry "used car salesman" Redknapp.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 15, 2013, 06:54:51 PM
Unless I'm reading the wrong boards, the Hoops' fan base doesn't actually seem all that excited about Pete, from what I've been able to peruse.

The fans are dreaming much bigger, which is I suppose a kind of ingrained habit if you're supporting a crummy London chequebook club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 15, 2013, 07:12:10 PM
He's only on the bench tonight. It is anyone's guess how significant this is. Perhaps he will just be eased back after his injury. On the other hand, he may have been kept out of the team in case he gets injured again prior to a transfer. I think the former is likely to be the case.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Quakes Fan on January 16, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Sky Bet's odds on Pete going to QPR in this transfer window are down to 8/11 (57.9%).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on January 16, 2013, 01:37:20 PM
There probably just going off the fact he didnt start last night...

Brilliant journalism.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 16, 2013, 01:42:22 PM
There probably just going off the fact he didnt start last night...

Brilliant journalism.

yeah it was the same when he wasn't included at Reading they assumed it was because he was offto QPR...not because he was injured!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Umpshire Baggie on January 16, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
It all comes down to Money I'm afraid if they offer him a 3 year deal 40 grand a week and around 3 million fee he will be gone end of...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 16, 2013, 02:34:31 PM
It all comes down to Money I'm afraid if they offer him a 3 year deal 40 grand a week and around 3 million fee he will be gone end of...
Not unless they make a bid that is acceptable to the club he wont! Personally I think this will die a death now as they have signed Remy so the desperation isnt as bad I suppose.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tucka9 on January 16, 2013, 03:22:58 PM
More "sky sources"

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8400443/Peter-Odemwingie-could-hand-in-transfer-request-to-get-move-to-Queens-Park-Rangers

Sky Sports sources understands that Peter Odemwingie could hand in a formal transfer request as a last resort.

Queens Park Rangers have lodged an offer for the West Bromwich Albion striker - who insist they do not want to sell the Nigerian international.

But QPR remain keen on sealing a deal for the 31-year-old striker and the player is believed to feel that the offer made for him is 'adequate' for his services.

If nothing else materialises then it is understood that, as a 'last resort', Odemwingie is prepared to hand in a formal transfer request to try and push through a move to Loftus Road.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 16, 2013, 03:41:56 PM
I wonder if their source has a dog with a bank account ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 16, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
The way they and Sky go about their business is nothing short of embarrassing. Their 'sources' have been well off many times regarding us lately and I expect the same on this occasion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 16, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
I wonder if their source has a dog with a bank account ?
A Bark lays bank account?.
Seriously is it right that rubber faces son has a job as a pundit whilst his dad is in charge of a team , surely that shouldn't happen?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 16, 2013, 07:18:58 PM
I feel for Louise marrying into that (or am I just jealous ?  :D )
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RuncornBaggie on January 16, 2013, 09:17:48 PM
To be honest, 'IF' he were to hand a formal transfer request in..........I would do everything I could (If I were in JP's position) to ruin him.  Throw him in the reserves and fine him at every available opportunity. 

I believe that there is no smoke without fire.  It's probably agent talk, but if it isn't true then why doesn't he come out and say so?

No-one player should dictate to the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 16, 2013, 10:52:53 PM
All the rumours are SKY produced, ignore them. He'll be staying.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on January 16, 2013, 11:31:13 PM
IF he hands in a transfer request, he forgoes any future loyalty bonus and the 5% customary stake a player gets in the deal as a goodbye.

We are safe this season and he's on £40k a week apparently and in all honesty we're no longer getting a huge amount of return on our money.

If we get £3.5mill or more, cash up front then he can go. Let Ashworth and Garlick go play with it, plus whatever else we have set aside next summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sandwell on January 17, 2013, 08:50:51 AM
I agree with solo baggie, while nobody would argue that Odemwingie is one of our best players the fact is that SC does not regard him as one of our main strikers and when he has played him he has not performed on a consistent basis.
Should QPR make a bid in the region of £5 million I would sell him and reinvest in the team, ideally we could get a genuine wide player in on loan before the end of January with an option to buy in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on January 17, 2013, 09:03:52 AM
This is what I see as the major problem here is the big IF we reinvest.
How many times have we sold and not reinvested in January I'd let both odemwingie and dorrans go if the team gets the money.
But should it go towards operating costs again it leaves us very short in midfield.
I'd like to see us take the approach some other teams do by we will sell but only when a replacement is already here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Doobuy on January 17, 2013, 10:13:49 AM
pete has been very valuable to us this season.  anyone we got in as a replacement would not be.  We should keep him.  We probably need 2 new wingers anyway - ideally we'd get one on loan now and then in the summer we find a long termer.  See no reason to sell.  Getting to 10th in the prem shoudl be the aim and we need a strong squad.  Pete can do a job for the next few years - he is worth more to us than a few quid in fees. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 17, 2013, 10:30:42 AM
Get rid of. Surely it's unsettling the squad to keep hearing that a player wants to leave during every transfer window.

Not sure why but I've never really liked him. He's scored some good/timely goals, but he's just always seemed too slefish for my liking. I'm not quite sure how he's been so popular throughout his time here. Most selfish players annoy the fans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 17, 2013, 10:44:47 AM
I'd rather have Pete's services for the next 18 months than £3.5m measly quid.

What would it cost to replace him?

He's our best forward.

He's a thoroughbred

He's the only one who can really play the striker cum winger role that Sc's 4-2-3-1 system requires.

He only gets left out when there are injury issues or in games where less talented "earnest tryers" are required because a more defensive side is required.

We've lost Gera for the season at least.

We may sell Dorrans.

To sell PO at the same time would be lunacy.

Keep him for 18 months and use that time to unearth a cheap, quality long term replacement.

Go to it Dan while you're still here  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 17, 2013, 10:49:58 AM
The squad ain't going to be disrupted by the rumours about him wanting a move because I'm sure they could ask him direct if he wanted to go. The fact is it is still only SKY who've said he may want to go. People are being panicked by these rumours, he'll be staying mark my words.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 17, 2013, 10:52:53 AM
Every window there's rumours and every window he stays.

Don't panic
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 17, 2013, 11:11:45 AM
Steve Madeley from the Express and Star just tweeted that after 24 hours of chasing up whats going on, it seems Odemwingie does want to talk to QPR, he said he isnt unhappy at Albion but would like to hear what QPR have to say.

He also said it would take a bid of around £5m for Albion to think about it, i thought (and hoped) this may fade away after they signed Remy but it now seems QPR are loaning Cisse out so maybe they will be in for Odemwingie again, they would of known £2m would be laughed off but suppose they were just testing the waters to see what price Albion would want.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ogwani on January 17, 2013, 11:17:12 AM
If they offer a good transfer fee let him go. I don't see the sense in leaving for a few more K a week when it is going to cost him much more to live over there. If they get relegated he is inevitably going to take a wage cut and probably struggle to find a new club. If he had sense he would just stay, but if they offer 5+ million just let him go and have a sour end to his career.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 17, 2013, 11:21:49 AM
Last January Sky reported that the transfer of Odemwingie to Fulham was all but complete - when actually Fulham hadn't even an interest in the player.

Sky crank up the drivel speculation in January (especially on their website) to generate more 'hits', it also helps feed interest in their razmataz 'transfer window countdown' nonsense on the final day of the month.

Odemwingie's wife is 5 days overdue with her first born, I doubt very much Pete is contemplating handing in a transfer requests and up rooting his family within the next two weeks.  He hasn't said he wants to leave, Clarke has stated his not selling, Rednapp has said he won't be making another bid for the player.  Sky Sports understands is as good as saying Tribal football understands.  Its garbage.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 17, 2013, 11:23:48 AM
if it is going to happen, sooner rather than later please so a replacement can be bought in, we know Albion aren't the quickest at getting transfers done!

IMO i don't think he'll go, and i don't want him to, along with Morrison he's the only player that offers a bit of drive from the midfield!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 17, 2013, 11:25:30 AM
I agree the Sky Sports stuff is rubbish, people can text in rumours and they put them on!

However i think the fact local journalists have confirmed something makes it more feasible, i would say Odemwingie probably wants to hear what they say as if they offer him loads more money, extra years and performance bonuses with no pay cut if they want down or a release clause, his head would be turned.

Doesnt mean he is going though, think there needs to be a alot of things for that to happen and not sure they will (and hope they dont)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 17, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
I'm a huge fan of Odemwingie, but the way he treats us in transfer windows is getting ridiculous.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on January 17, 2013, 11:54:10 AM
I'm a huge fan of Odemwingie, but the way he treats us in transfer windows is getting ridiculous.

He hasn't done anything. He hasn't said he wants to leave. Its all speculation throygh Skysports.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 17, 2013, 12:16:03 PM
He hasn't done anything. He hasn't said he wants to leave. Its all speculation throygh Skysports.

Steve Madeley has stated that he understands Odemwingie is interested in hearing what QPR have to offer.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: ashdoy on January 17, 2013, 12:29:52 PM
Steve Madeley has stated that he understands Odemwingie is interested in hearing what QPR have to offer.

PO is my favorite player, and one i believe comes under far too much critiscm despite being one, if not THE most dangerous player we have.

However, every transfer window we have these rumours. PO either needs to get rid of his agent (im an agent too, i know how it works!) as he stirs up far too much for one player; OR he needs to be sold.

This is either PO 'casually' always looking for more money, or his agent looking for a big pay-off also as he see PO coming to the end of his career
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliewestbrom on January 17, 2013, 12:43:39 PM
I'm a huge fan of Odemwingie, but the way he treats us in transfer windows is getting ridiculous.

It will be his agent as much as anything.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 17, 2013, 01:09:22 PM
Yes he is our best striker but the fact he even wants to talk to a club relegation bound makes my blood boil.Money grabbing git, hes a trouble maker. get rid.He is no good to us sulking like he has done for most of his time here anyway.Agent driven also who stands to pocket a cool 500k
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 17, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
The fact that local journo is claiming he wants to talk to them is disappointing, he's on good money here at a club on the up whilst QPR are struggling, may just about escape but still more chance of them going down. It seems the only thing that could attract him to see what they have to say is £££. If thats the case then for me he can go if they offer US what we are happy to accept not what HE is happy with and also if we can get someone else in. If they don't offer us what we want then he stays under his current contract.

I hope its not another ploy to get a better deal out of us.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 17, 2013, 01:27:54 PM
Steve Madeley has stated that he understands Odemwingie is interested in hearing what QPR have to offer.



Surely his representatives will have been told by QPR what they would be looking to offer, its not supposed to happen but we all know that it goes on. Story about him wanting to hear what they are offering makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 17, 2013, 01:34:01 PM
I cant und£rstand why h£ would l£ave us, what can QPR possibly off£r him to mak£ him want to go th£r£??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 17, 2013, 03:16:59 PM
The fact that local journo is claiming he wants to talk to them is disappointing, he's on good money here at a club on the up whilst QPR are struggling, may just about escape but still more chance of them going down. It seems the only thing that could attract him to see what they have to say is £££. If thats the case then for me he can go if they offer US what we are happy to accept not what HE is happy with and also if we can get someone else in. If they don't offer us what we want then he stays under his current contract.

I hope its not another ploy to get a better deal out of us.
Agree with this.  He's a good quality player, and he's helped us move up a notch, but he's no Astle/Regis, and anyway he's 32, so if he wants to go for £££, let him.  Soak Harry for $5m+.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 17, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
Agree with this.  He's a good quality player, and he's helped us move up a notch, but he's no Astle/Regis, and anyway he's 32, so if he wants to go for £££, let him.  Soak Harry for $5m+.

I agree, if we get a good deal for him then I wouldn't mind letting him go. Can use the money we get from him and Wood transfer to get someone else in.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 17, 2013, 04:16:01 PM
Agree with this.  He's a good quality player, and he's helped us move up a notch, but he's no Astle/Regis, and anyway he's 32, so if he wants to go for £££, let him.  Soak Harry for $5m+.

I'd prefer £5m not $5m !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 17, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
I cant und£rstand why h£ would l£ave us, what can QPR possibly off£r him to mak£ him want to go th£r£??

aGreed  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 17, 2013, 08:08:56 PM
There's been much media specualtion in the past week or so about Odemwingie heading for QPR, but if Odemwingie is not interested in leaving then why doesn't he come out and say so? I like an occasional flutter and I am seriously considering wagering a few pounds on Odemwingie being lured away during this window by the extra cash he can apparently make at Loftus Road.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 17, 2013, 09:29:55 PM
Yes he is our best striker but the fact he even wants to talk to a club relegation bound makes my blood boil.Money grabbing git, hes a trouble maker. get rid.He is no good to us sulking like he has done for most of his time here anyway.Agent driven also who stands to pocket a cool 500k
Any proof of any of that apart from the balls spouted by Talksport /sky ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 17, 2013, 10:07:05 PM
If he's sold,  the club would have to have an alternative goal-scoring forward lined up to come in. Such a player would probably be at least in the £7-8 million price bracket. I'm not sure that such an alternative is out there who could be brought in within the next fortnight. We can't just rely on Lukaku, Long and Rosenberg. What Odem offers is a different type of forward. There will games when we need someone running at defenders rather than just a target man.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 17, 2013, 10:36:49 PM
Read earlier SC getting annoyed at being asked the same Odemwingie question again and again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 17, 2013, 11:05:05 PM
Football is a business isn't it? In that light wouldn't it be remiss by Odemwingie/his agent not to follow 'due process' (as the club likes to call it) and see if there are better deals out there?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 17, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
In a way I am starting to dread the summer. Besides the twisted domestic market, already anyone half decent in France and Spain, and increasingly playes from Germany, seems about to be sucked into the PL by the 'new fresh money from the 'Sky'' pumped into the veins of clubs/agents/players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BILSTONALBION on January 18, 2013, 10:13:12 AM
we were all here before him,we will all be here WHEN  he's gone.
just another case of greed in todays football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on January 18, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
I honestly think we should sell him .He will be 32 this year so his best days are behind him.But we need a replacement straight away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 18, 2013, 10:25:11 AM
Some things are unbeliveable - Odemwingie tweeted he is now a dad, Mulumbu tweeted back congratulations and said dont sign anywhere til he gets back and put lol or joke or something like that, to me that seems a bit of a joke between friends.

Some idiot then tweeted Odemwingie that 'he should f**k off as he is a money grabbing c**t and his transfer request is to try and get more money'

Now Odemwingie has just become a dad, so a very happy time and as far as i know as of yet he hasnt put in transfer request, yet he is getting abused about rumours! Some of our supporters really are 100% b***ends. (fortunately most are good!)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 18, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
Some things are unbeliveable - Odemwingie tweeted he is now a dad, Mulumbu tweeted back congratulations and said dont sign anywhere til he gets back and put lol or joke or something like that, to me that seems a bit of a joke between friends.

Some idiot then tweeted Odemwingie that 'he should f**k off as he is a money grabbing c**t and his transfer request is to try and get more money'

Now Odemwingie has just become a dad, so a very happy time and as far as i know as of yet he hasnt put in transfer request, yet he is getting abused about rumours! Some of our supporters really are 100% b***ends. (fortunately most are good!)

Just stay away from twitter. I tried to look at albion stuff on twitter for a little while maybe a year or so ago, but I quickly gave up that idea as the above example was typical of the mind numbing stupidity going on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 18, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
I know Albion79....all we have is speculation at the minute which is always going to happen with a player like Odemwingie .We have to remember he is the biggest name on the World stage we have had in years if at all , at the minute all we have is rumours and sadly some people will believe any rubbish of Sky or Talksport not to mention the 100 transfer websites.According to Clarke on the O/S he spoke to Pete and all is fine so until i see a transfer request go nothing changes for me and that goes for all of our players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 18, 2013, 10:34:31 AM
Just stay away from twitter. I tried to look at albion stuff on twitter for a little while maybe a year or so ago, but I quickly gave up that idea as the above example was typical of the mind numbing stupidity going on.
Personally would like it if our players were banned from Twitter , just too much hassle at times.
Just my view.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 18, 2013, 10:35:33 AM
I honestly think we should sell him .He will be 32 this year so his best days are behind him.But we need a replacement straight away.


The good thing with Odemwingie is that I dont think he`s ever really had a serious injury so the bloke
hasnt lost any of his pace. You just have to look at Giggs and Scholes to realise that a player can still
be going strong in thier late 30`s.
If we did decide to sell him then I couldnt see us replacing him when we`re looking at defenders
we dont even need (SEBASTIAN COATES)-Liverpool.
At this moment in time Albion need to be loaning or buying a holding midfielder and trying to keep all
this squad together even Graham Dorrans who`s done alright these last few games.
If fans want to make Odemwingie play better then stop singing that stupid "THERES ONLY 1 SHANE LONG"!!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 18, 2013, 10:40:52 AM
I just find it staggering some of the hatred and anger people have for our own players! You hear it games too, i remember years ago one of our cans screaming that he wished Carson would die of Cancer and his eyes were popping out his head.

Why so much hatred? For anybody not just our own players! Tomorrow i am sure the Villa players will get hostile reception, be some banter, and for 90 minutes we despise them, dont get me wrong even aside from the matches we are not their biggest fans but i cant imagine any normal person going out there way to abuse them!

I just wander what person wants to hate somebody who plays for their own club so much!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 18, 2013, 11:07:26 AM
Agree with this, some for the bile spouted at players on twitter really highlights this, some of it is absolutely vile.  I don't know why they even bother.  And then people complain that the fan/player relationship is dead, is it any wonder.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 18, 2013, 11:08:53 AM
Fans need to grow up and understand that a players relationship with a club is different to their own. If a player wants to move on he is entitled to do so and 90% of the time it is because of the money just like you and I when we change jobs.

Personally I would not blame him for wanting to leave if the package on offer was right, QPR have a fighting chance of getting out of it and at 32 how many more big days is he going to have?  It is total rubbish to think that his agent has not spoken to QPR and knows roughly what is on offer. Players never fail to agree terms in cases where a player hands in a transfer request after a clubs initial offer has been rejected which tells its own story
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: row ww on January 18, 2013, 11:17:27 AM
I can understand anyone wanting to leave for more money.I am sure we have all done it at some point in our working lives.The issue I have however is that PO has had very little time on the pitch this season,and when he has played,it has mainly been out wide.For that reason,I can understand him wanting to leave for footballing reasons as well as the extra cash.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 18, 2013, 11:35:27 AM
Fans need to grow up and understand that a players relationship with a club is different to their own. If a player wants to move on he is entitled to do so and 90% of the time it is because of the money just like you and I when we change jobs.

Personally I would not blame him for wanting to leave if the package on offer was right, QPR have a fighting chance of getting out of it and at 32 how many more big days is he going to have?  It is total rubbish to think that his agent has not spoken to QPR and knows roughly what is on offer. Players never fail to agree terms in cases where a player hands in a transfer request after a clubs initial offer has been rejected which tells its own story

I don't really care for the 'grow up' comment to be honest. No-one begrudges people earning money but players are more than happy to sign contracts when the club show them loyalty which in Petes case was not the first contract we gave him. His current one doesn't expire until the Summer of 2014 and in Olsson case 2016 yet mumblings are both are keen to discuss with other clubs. Both are very well paid and will never have to work after they retire from football if they choose. QPR are a club paying silly money yet could end up in the Championship hopefully next season so if doubling their salary is the only thing attracting them then for me I don't want them here. I want players who want to play for this club.

I'm not naive enough to think they have any loyalty to this club and I know that the majority of players think of the £££ which is what the game at the top level has become but if a club approaches us and is told the player is going nowhere then thats should be it, we shouldn't have 'Arry and the gutter press from London trying to keep dead deals going on and we shouldn't have players trying to force moves once the club they were happy to sign that current deal with have said no.

Anyone who abuses any person on Twitter whether famous or not is not even worth discussing but all the player has to do is block them and its gone. Abusers on Twitter don't speak for the majority of Albion fans and anyone who thinks they do needs to step out into the real world.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 18, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
Pete just tweeted me. He was saying something along the lines of hoping the saints forgive him for tweeting whilst driving.  I said I'd forgive him as long as he didn't put in a transfer request..
to which he replied ''haha will try my best. Nothing abnormal is going on.  If it did you will hear it from all angles!"

His staying, largely down to me I reckon.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 18, 2013, 03:14:27 PM
  Tweet from Pete Moving so slow because of the snow that I can even tweet while driving. i retweet who 1st notices something in the photo

pic.twitter.com/ewnQfaF9 (http://pic.twitter.com/ewnQfaF9)

I like Pete, but, not the smartest tweet ever.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 19, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
If I was an employee of a company and understood a rival company wanted to"poach" me, I'd be interested to talk to them. Doesn't mean I'd want to leave my current employment. For what its worth,  IF, (and that is a big if) he decides he wants to go we get the best money we can for him and move on as a club like we did when we sold Kamara etc.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boot2006 on January 19, 2013, 10:07:57 PM
Anyone know what he said after the game on ESPN? I missed it but have been told he said something like he wanted reassurances or something like that ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 19, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
Anyone know what he said after the game on ESPN? I missed it but have been told he said something like he wanted reassurances or something like that ?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1305723?cc=5739#


The Nigerian said the result was a good one for the Baggies, who nevertheless drop to eighth in the standings. It was a good point for us,'' Odemwingie told ESPN. "From 2-0 down, coming out with a point was good.

"We could have scored a third one but I think the manager is pleased with a point.'' Asked about the transfer speculation, he added: "I'm not the one deciding this. Nothing abnormal is going on. Players move clubs.

"An offer was made and I was thinking about having to secure my own future in the Premier League, which is my desire. So we had a good talk with the club and now I'm here and I would say that it's a club that I love with all my heart.''

Baggies boss Steve Clarke confirmed Odemwingie is not leaving. He said: "No-one is going out in January. We don't need to sell anyone. Will he move if there is a silly offer? You don't know our chairman (Jeremy Peace). No-one is going out.

"The quicker we get to February 1 the better. No-one is coming in and no-one is going out.''
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boot2006 on January 19, 2013, 11:23:11 PM
That's fair enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tony,Germany on January 20, 2013, 10:51:11 PM
I honestly think we should sell him .He will be 32 this year so his best days are behind him.But we need a replacement straight away.
I agree if we get a descent offer and we can get a replacement in this window ( a winger would do as that is were we are playing him)
Don't slate me straight away but if he says he is 32 that might mean he is say 37ish....lol have worked in Africa and they don't always tell the truth about there age...!!!
cheers
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on January 20, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
I agree if we get a descent offer and we can get a replacement in this window ( a winger would do as that is were we are playing him)
Don't slate me straight away but if he says he is 32 that might mean he is say 37ish....lol have worked in Africa and they don't always tell the truth about there age...!!!
cheers

Sorry mate but has he not spent most of his life in Russia where he was born???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 20, 2013, 11:45:33 PM
Would only consider cashing in in the summer as that will be the last chance to get some decent cash for him. With that said that would leave us with Long and Rosenberg who supporters already dislike with a passion as I believe Fortune is out of contract and there are no guarantees we will keep Lukaku for another season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tony,Germany on January 21, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
Sorry mate but has he not spent most of his life in Russia where he was born???
he ain't Russian mate just played there for a while...
was supposed to of being going to the acon with mulumbu
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 21, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
he ain't Russian m8 just played there for a while...
was supposed to of being going to the acon with mulumbu

He was brought up in Russia. Either way I don't think it's a fair comment to say he's older than he is without any proof.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 21, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
he ain't Russian m8 just played there for a while...
was supposed to of being going to the acon with mulumbu
Odemwingie is actually half Russian. As well as playing there I understand that he was born in the old Soviet union and did spend at least some of his formative years in Russia or Uzbekistan.

It just happened that half of his family is Nigerian and he chose to represent them at International level.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 21, 2013, 11:00:18 AM
he ain't Russian m8 just played there for a while...
was supposed to of being going to the acon with mulumbu

He was born in Tashkent, now even with my limited geographical knowledge I would hazard a guess that that is/was in the old USSR (Russia)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 21, 2013, 11:00:48 PM
The good old unreliable Mirror is re-hashing the Odemwingie 'I want to talk to QPR' story in Tuesday's paper. The only thing different from before is that they claim Odemwingie is demanding to speak to QPR. He can't do that as he is under contract.

Peter Odemwingie is demanding a chance to speak to QPR and may slap in a transfer request if West Brom continue to block him.
The Albion forward is wanted by Premier League rivals Rangers, who have had an opening £2.5million bid rejected.
The Loftus Road club are offering the 31-year-old a rise on his £40,000-a-week deal, which has 18 months left at Albion.
QPR boss Harry Redknapp is also dangling a survival bonus and an automatic 12-month extension if lowly Rangers stay up.
Odemwingie scored his fifth goal of the season to salvage a point in the Baggies’ 2-2 draw with Aston Villa.
But the star consciously refused to pledge his future to Albion in a post-match TV interview.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 21, 2013, 11:17:17 PM
The good old unreliable Mirror is re-hashing the Odemwingie 'I want to talk to QPR' story in Tuesday's paper. The only thing different from before is that they claim Odemwingie is demanding to speak to QPR. He can't do that as he is under contract.

Peter Odemwingie is demanding a chance to speak to QPR and may slap in a transfer request if West Brom continue to block him.
The Albion forward is wanted by Premier League rivals Rangers, who have had an opening £2.5million bid rejected.
The Loftus Road club are offering the 31-year-old a rise on his £40,000-a-week deal, which has 18 months left at Albion.
QPR boss Harry Redknapp is also dangling a survival bonus and an automatic 12-month extension if lowly Rangers stay up.
Odemwingie scored his fifth goal of the season to salvage a point in the Baggies’ 2-2 draw with Aston Villa.
But the star consciously refused to pledge his future to Albion in a post-match TV interview.

If this is true then all he has to do is hand in his request- let's see if he does.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 21, 2013, 11:56:43 PM
The good old unreliable Mirror is re-hashing the Odemwingie 'I want to talk to QPR' story in Tuesday's paper. The only thing different from before is that they claim Odemwingie is demanding to speak to QPR. He can't do that as he is under contract.

Peter Odemwingie is demanding a chance to speak to QPR and may slap in a transfer request if West Brom continue to block him.
The Albion forward is wanted by Premier League rivals Rangers, who have had an opening £2.5million bid rejected.
The Loftus Road club are offering the 31-year-old a rise on his £40,000-a-week deal, which has 18 months left at Albion.
QPR boss Harry Redknapp is also dangling a survival bonus and an automatic 12-month extension if lowly Rangers stay up.
Odemwingie scored his fifth goal of the season to salvage a point in the Baggies’ 2-2 draw with Aston Villa.
But the star consciously refused to pledge his future to Albion in a post-match TV interview.

Seems as though someone is trying to recruit a player through the press. I hope the club get the FA to take action against whoever the person passing things to the press to unsettle and tap him up happens to be. Can't be 'Arry as he doesn't like to talk about other teams players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 22, 2013, 12:03:47 AM
This Mirror farticle is wrotten by James Nursemaid - he's a Villa fan ny.

Obviously drunk off by St Peter's equaliser he couldn't be arsed to write a fresh article so rehashed two old anti Albion stories in vindictive spite - the PO to QPR hogwash which has been denied by Clarke and Podem and the Brunty booing story.

Thanks to Brunt and PO for those fabulous goals.

Now perhaps Nursey can return beneath his damp stone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: number69 on January 22, 2013, 12:06:50 AM
This Mirror farticle is wrotten by James Nursemaid - he's a Villa fan ny.

Obviously drunk off by St Peter's equaliser he couldn't be arsed to write a fresh article so rehashed two old anti Albion stories in vindictive spite - the PO to QPR hogwash which has been denied by Clarke and Podem and the Brunty booing story.

Thanks to Brunt and PO for those fabulous goals.

Now perhaps Nursey can return beneath his damp stone

Nursey is a Norwich fan and also a poor journalist.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 22, 2013, 12:08:38 AM
he ain't Russian mate just played there for a while...
was supposed to of being going to the acon with mulumbu
If we go by his actual birth place, he's Uzbek. If we go by where he lived most as a child, he's Russian, if we go by the team he represents via his Father's heritage, he's Nigerian but from his mother's side he is again a Russian.

Take your pick!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 22, 2013, 01:03:58 AM
Did anyone catch his post-match interview? I tried to listen in, but there was a vile fan ranting away at the bar.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 22, 2013, 07:57:23 AM
the Moose on Talksport has obviously been reading the papers this morning reporting Pete is demanding  talks with QPR
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 22, 2013, 08:10:39 AM
Pete became a Dad for the first time 2 days ago, you can imagine he probably has more important things on his mind than 'demanding' transfers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 22, 2013, 09:49:32 AM
It's all quite parasitic by the mirror and if all of this is fabricated it's really unfairly put Pete in a bad light. If you go by his actions on the pitch (playing like a man posessed!) and his words ( saying he loves the club, the fans score the equaliser) then the matters put to bed. The Mirror should just leave this now it seems like they, sky sports and talk sport are the only ones trying to make this happen, even 'arry gave up last week!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 22, 2013, 10:01:05 AM
I might be mistaken but it looked to me like he grabbed the crest on his shirt (maybe kissed it?) after scoring on Saturday...as well as pointing to his name on his shirt.
 Might be an idea if we started singing his name! Couldn't hear much singing of his name even though he saved us a point.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 22, 2013, 10:59:07 AM
If what the Mirror says is true (that would be rare!) then as far as I am concerned we should call his bluff. He signed a contract with us and we don't want to sell him (although for £5m I could be persuaded).

With our Premiership place (all but) secured, I could see JP taking a tough stance on him, as there is no chance of JP being held to blackmail.  Maybe Pete's agent hasn't worked out JP yet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 22, 2013, 12:40:30 PM
We are not selling Pete this window unless QPR come up with a lot of money and thus far they have not. This summer might be a different proposition, Pete is 32 this year he is a player that relies on his pace at some point in his thirties he will lose a yard of pace and when he does he will be half the player he is now. Albion probably do not want to be the club that is paying him £40,000 a week at that point . The player is looking at one last big pay day which is why he is interested in QPR and it would not surprise me if he were to move on this summer to a club that will offer him a 2 year contract on the same or more money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 22, 2013, 01:03:59 PM
We are not selling Pete this window unless QPR come up with a lot of money and thus far they have not. This summer might be a different proposition, Pete is 32 this year he is a player that relies on his pace at some point in his thirties he will lose a yard of pace and when he does he will be half the player he is now. Albion probably do not want to be the club that is paying him £40,000 a week at that point . The player is looking at one last big pay day which is why he is interested in QPR and it would not surprise me if he were to move on this summer to a club that will offer him a 2 year contract on the same or more money.

My fear is that we will receive an acceptable offer right at the end of the transfer window and have no time to acquire a replacement
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 22, 2013, 01:38:32 PM
Taken yesterday from ´caughtoffside

     
Peter Odemwingie Rules Out QPR Move

by Gary Emmerson January 21st, 2013
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West Brom striker not leaving The Hawthorns.

Peter Odemwingie has ruled out joining Premier League strugglers Queens Park Rangers in the January transfer window after committing his future to West Brom.

QPR manager Harry Redknapp placed a £2million bid for the 31-year-old Nigerian international forward last week but that approach was rejected by West Brom along with an enquiry about the availability of defender Jonas Olsson.

Odemwingie rewarded West Brom’s loyalty by scoring the crucial equaliser in the club’s comeback 2-2 draw with Aston Villa at weekend and immediately pledged that his future is at The Hawthorns despite the possibility of an increased offer coming in from QPR.

“I’m not the one deciding this,” Odemwingie, who joined West Brom in 2010, said after the victory. “Nothing abnormal is going on. Players move clubs.

“An offer was made and I was thinking about having to secure my own future in the Premier League, which is my desire. So we had a good talk with the club and now I’m here and I would say that it’s a club that I love with all my heart.”

QPR turned their attention to French international Loic Remy instead and the striker made an instant impact in Saturday’s 1-1 draw at West Ham following his move from Marseille.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on January 22, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
Very bad journalism, surprised this story is still being brought back every other day after the club and Odemwingie have already put it to bed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on January 22, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
'QPR manager Harry Redknapp placed a £2million bid for the 31-year-old Nigerian international forward'

if this is true JP would have cried laughing into his cornflakes!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jsam on January 22, 2013, 06:08:48 PM
Can't say I'm a big Odemwingie fan - he's just too selfish for my liking. But I think he can do a job for us in the second half of the season, and I can't see us replacing him in this transfer window for anything better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 22, 2013, 06:42:39 PM
Can't say I'm a big Odemwingie fan - he's just too selfish for my liking. But I think he can do a job for us in the second half of the season, and I can't see us replacing him in this transfer window for anything better.
Obviously you are fully entitled to your opinion, but I can't understand fans who don't rate Odemwingie. Not just you but I've seen plenty of others as well. Despite sometimes being a bit single minded and maybe holding the ball a bit too long occasionally the guy is constantly involved in important parts of the game. So often has some involvement in our goals either scoring, assisting or taking part earlier in the move.

Personally I don't mind him being a bit greedy. Getting his head down and running at people or getting shots off is at least putting us on the front foot and making something happen. Not sure we have another player apart from maybe Mozza who can turn us from defence into attacking quickly by carrying the ball. We have lacked decent ball carriers for years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 22, 2013, 06:56:05 PM
I agree A5HB. Mozza can be man marked out of games. The only time I've seen that happen with PO is when he plays on the wings and opposing teams stack two or three players behind him, and our team doesn't shift the play enough to loosen up the opposing defence. Yes, clearly PO likes to be on the ball and I sometimes wish he'd play simple one twos more often. But look at our first goal against Villa. PO carried the ball from our own half, holding off a Villa player, played a one two with Thomas and again held off a Villa player and then played a perfect low cross from the touchline to Lukaku who had the sense to set up Brunty. That was a player aware of and using his teammates.

PO could easily play for a much better team than us, we can't say that about many of our players can we?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 22, 2013, 06:57:21 PM
I would keep him until the end of the season, certianly has a few goals still in him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 23, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
I dont understand anybody that doesn't want to keep him for as long as possible! He's definitely a player that needs to be man-managed and dealt with very carefully but he's one of few we have that will do something out of nothing (ie blackburn and newcastle games last year)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: cads_ap_albion on January 23, 2013, 10:47:38 PM
he is the one player we have with real pace and genuine dribbling ability. he is one of the last players we should be selling.

personally, i'd give him a pay rise and contract extension. other prem clubs want him,what does that tell you?

i despair at some of our fans - we only notice his worth when he doesn't play.who else can do what he does?


also, just a thought - his goal v villa was a replica of his goal v the dingles - spin and instant volley on a corner off the post.

he's an absolute hero...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on January 24, 2013, 07:08:20 AM
Can't say I'm a big Odemwingie fan - he's just too selfish for my liking. But I think he can do a job for us in the second half of the season, and I can't see us replacing him in this transfer window for anything better.

As every good striker should be....its what sets apart decent strikers
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on January 24, 2013, 07:12:29 AM
he is the one player we have with real pace and genuine dribbling ability. he is one of the last players we should be selling.

personally, i'd give him a pay rise and contract extension. other prem clubs want him,what does that tell you?

i despair at some of our fans - we only notice his worth when he doesn't play.who else can do what he does?


also, just a thought - his goal v villa was a replica of his goal v the dingles - spin and instant volley on a corner off the post.

he's an absolute hero...

hear hear...

Totally agree for me he should be given a longer contract...

I dont get all this we can sell him in the summer its the last chance we will get to grab some money...why? he cost what 1.5m and has scored a fantastic amount of goals he has repaid his fee and we dont need to sell we should keep until he cant play no more

A hero in the making and we should appreciate players like him not offload them
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 24, 2013, 11:21:33 AM
hear hear...

Totally agree for me he should be given a longer contract...

I dont get all this we can sell him in the summer its the last chance we will get to grab some money...why? he cost what 1.5m and has scored a fantastic amount of goals he has repaid his fee and we dont need to sell we should keep until he cant play no more

A hero in the making and we should appreciate players like him not offload them

The key to how the club works is pay as much as you can in wages and then get the wages on the pitch. Pete is probably our highest earner on about £40k a week so therefore has to fully justify his place in the team (he does at the minute) but at the point he does not we do not want to be committed to paying his wages because we need to spend that money elsewhere. Keeping him when he is not a regular starter is not an option and if anything the club should let him go a little bit for that point.

The fee we might receive for Pete is almost incidental as you quite rightly pointed out we didn't pay a fortune for him in the first place and even a desperate QPR have not offered more than £3m so a more rational buyer in the summer will probably not even offer that. The key is what Odemwingie wants and how hard will he push to get it. He is contracted to the end of next season we could let that run down or offer to extend for 12 months so he has two years but I doubt we will offer more. Al-Gharafa came in last summer and a three year tax free payday in a less demanding league could be an attractive proposition to the player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 24, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
Just put sky sports news on and they're banging on about how the club met his representatives and he feels he's being priced out of a move and will hand a transfer request in. Thought this had been put to bed this week!? I swear sky just do it so people tune in on deadline day
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 24, 2013, 07:30:04 PM
bit irrelevant he´s under contract so  the club is entitled to ask what they want for him not his (or his agents)right to set his own transfer fee!! Still think its being driven from the QPR end as i am sure PO is way to busy learning how to change a nappy and which end to put the bottle!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 24, 2013, 08:49:04 PM
Not for sale and that should be the end of the matter. QPR and Harry Redknapp are trying to unsettle the player no doubt with the knowledge and approval of PO's agents. Dirty business football
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 24, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
Not for sale and that should be the end of the matter. QPR and Harry Redknapp are trying to unsettle the player no doubt with the knowledge and approval of PO's agents. Dirty business football

No two ways about it but it won't work at least not in this window. The problem is that it does unsettle the player and even if the club digs its' heals in now once the player starts thinking about a move he becomes keener to explore the next opportunity when it arises and less happy for the club to keep rebuffing approaches, at some point something gives.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 24, 2013, 09:21:38 PM
If he wants to even talk to them he can do one >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 24, 2013, 09:32:49 PM
There has been a real lack of activity in the Market for SKY sports to report on this window. Pete seems to be one story that they can keep rehashing to act as a filler on that silly little feature of theirs. Garlick makes a comment one moment and the next thing is they rehash it. I used to look forward to transfer deadline day but SSN is becoming a joke with their tosh reports. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 24, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
There has been a real lack of activity in the Market for SKY sports to report on this window. Pete seems to be one story that they can keep rehashing to act as a filler on that silly little feature of theirs. Garlick makes a comment one moment and the next thing is they rehash it. I used to look forward to transfer deadline day but SSN is becoming a joke with their tosh reports.


The player is greedy and he wants to talk to them.Can you blame him Lets stop kidding ourselves here
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 24, 2013, 09:52:44 PM
Ok. I've accepted it. Based purely on your opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 24, 2013, 09:54:12 PM
Ok. I've accepted it. Based purely on your opinion.


Oh he of little faith
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 24, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
Oh for the return of ITK posters to settle this one?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 24, 2013, 10:04:05 PM
Oh for the return of ITK posters to settle this one?


Agreed because all we have is sky and the media at the moment
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 24, 2013, 10:10:30 PM
Latest from Sky Sports: Odemwingie could be handing in a transfer request tomorrow.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 24, 2013, 10:24:56 PM
Latest from Sky Sports: Odemwingie could be handing in a transfer request tomorrow.

You see this is what really pisses me off about Sky Sports, saying that Odemwingie could be handing in a transfer request tomorrow.

Of course he could hand in a transfer request tomorrow, he could do absolutely anything tomorrow. It's such a loose word, they don't put their balls on the line and say he will hand in a transfer request. But in that time it allows fans to get worried, players could have their heads turned etc. All to help out 'Arry.

Sorry for the rant.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 24, 2013, 10:45:12 PM
That Nursey bloke is reporting QPR back in for Odemwingie tomorrow with a £3 Million bid. £3 Million is an absolute joke of a bid, triple it and they might be near his valuation
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 25, 2013, 01:14:26 AM
For this to keep on rumbling on through the month someone is briefing the media and it ain't us. There is a well worn pattern. 'Arry makes it known that he likes a player although he never talks about other clubs players, a very public bid is made and is rebuffed. A week or so lapses during which time rumours appear that the player is considering handing in a transfer request or is unhappy that he is being priced out of a move. The second bid is made, repeat until player demands a move or the club give up in the last few hours of the window.

Hopefully we tell QPR where to go, in point of fact I would rather give Odemwingie to the Dingles than sell him to him Redknapp.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 25, 2013, 01:32:43 AM
I hope this latest rumour about Odemwingie planning to hand in a transfer is not true. Why would a player of his talent want to play next season in the Championship? Arry, no doubt, will offer him more money than we pay him as a bait, but I am sure that a good chunk of any rise would go to the taxman and his agent.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 25, 2013, 01:34:55 AM
For this to keep on rumbling on through the month someone is briefing the media and it ain't us. There is a well worn pattern. 'Arry makes it known that he likes a player although he never talks about other clubs players, a very public bid is made and is rebuffed. A week or so lapses during which time rumours appear that the player is considering handing in a transfer request or is unhappy that he is being priced out of a move. The second bid is made, repeat until player demands a move or the club give up in the last few hours of the window.

Hopefully we tell QPR where to go, in point of fact I would rather give Odemwingie to the Dingles than sell him to him Redknapp.
It´s getting late. Think about it again in the morning. ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 25, 2013, 04:09:21 AM
I so hope the rumour that Mourinho is looking at Cesar to replace his injured keeper is true.


Just to irritate 'Arry



 ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 05:51:53 AM
£2.5 million? Are you kidding me? Sell him! We don't need him, we're 8th in the league don't you know. We'll be laughing all the way to the bank!

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 25, 2013, 07:50:26 AM
The best way to treat a tinpot bag of $h!t club, with a media slut manager like this lot, is to slap in a bid for Taraabt or just tell them 'why dow yow guw flip yamselves. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 25, 2013, 10:18:19 AM
I'm quite worried this will drag out till deadline day and QPR will use their nasty ass very public tactics, that are te opposite of how our club run, and we may be left in a similar situation to when we lost earnshaw. Peter does have the distraction of a new born but could that influence a decision to leave, not only could he secure his own future but also his child's?! Couldn't blame him for thinking like that. Really hate the way QPR do business.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: joeymayo on January 25, 2013, 10:32:18 AM
I'm quite worried this will drag out till deadline day and QPR will use their nasty ass very public tactics, that are te opposite of how our club run, and we may be left in a similar situation to when we lost earnshaw. Peter does have the distraction of a new born but could that influence a decision to leave, not only could he secure his own future but also his child's?! Couldn't blame him for thinking like that. Really hate the way QPR do business.

It concerns me when people use the term 'secure their future'. What a laugh that is, Pete is probably on 30k plus per week, how much does he need to secure his future, that figure alone works out to £1.5 plus per year. I mean how's he going to live on that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 25, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
It concerns me when people use the term 'secure their future'. What a laugh that is, Pete is probably on 30k plus per week, how much does he need to secure his future, that figure alone works out to £1.5 plus per year. I mean how's he going to live on that.

Ok secure an incredible comfortable life for him and set his children up for the same. He'll get taxed half of what he earns, pay his agent etc. I'm just playing devils advocate here, not necessarily stating my own opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 25, 2013, 10:42:42 AM
I have no issue with him wanting to know what QPR are likely to offer, its just a job to him after all. If he hands in a transfer request then that is a different matter but I doubt he will, we have the speculation every transfer window with him so I'm not going to have a go at him as he's still our player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hertsbaggiebird on January 25, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
I am fed up with the phrase secure his future.  What he earns in a year circa £2M would take an average earner of £25K over  60 years to earn.  During that 60 years on £25K with small increases that person will have secured his future and saved somehow.  If this man on £2M can't do that on a year's salary then he is greedier than I thought.  Whilst footballers have a limited work life they earn so much more than the average person, it is difficult to feel sorry for them.  This is not about securing his family's future, as he will have already done that with what he has earned, so to me one last pay day doesn't really ring true.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 25, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
I know it's not going away and I dare say what I say may prove irrelevant and I also dare say that what he said can be twisted but in respect of securing his future I'm sure that he actually said 'securing my future in the Premier League'. This is a little bit different than what people are saying on here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hertsbaggiebird on January 25, 2013, 01:02:21 PM
I know it's not going away and I dare say what I say may prove irrelevant and I also dare say that what he said can be twisted but in respect of securing his future I'm sure that he actually said 'securing my future in the Premier League'. This is a little bit different than what people are saying on here.
Just out of interest - how would securing his future in the premier league benefit by joining QPR?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: CL3MO on January 25, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
£2.5 million? Are you kidding me? Sell him! We don't need him, we're 8th in the league don't you know. We'll be laughing all the way to the bank!

And since nobody is coming in, who do you suggest replaces him in the side? Our squad is threadbare as it is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 01:26:22 PM
And since nobody is coming in, who do you suggest replaces him in the side? Our squad is threadbare as it is.

It was a 'joke', I was making an indirect comment to the "Is anyone else amazed" thread. PO is just about the last player we should sell imo. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggysean on January 25, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
Just out of interest - how would securing his future in the premier league benefit by joining QPR?

It might if when he spoke to Garlick and DA, as it was them who apparently, told him of the offer that he found out from them he had no long term future at the Albion. When I say long term I mean beyond this season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Topman on January 25, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
Handed in transfer request according to sky
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 25, 2013, 04:54:43 PM
Sky sources reporting PO has handed in a transfer request, West Brom unavailable for comment  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Topman on January 25, 2013, 04:56:43 PM
Disappointed in the man if I'm honest but I'm afraid it's modern day footballers. Let him go if he doesn't want to be here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BaggieSean on January 25, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
'Arry again, f**k sake, after everything we've done for him, but reality is, we can't compete with the money thrown about in this league when it comes to transfers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 25, 2013, 04:59:30 PM
Cash in now for £4m and invest in a younger replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Topman on January 25, 2013, 05:02:08 PM
I'm afraid it will be typical old Albion. We will sell on the 31st and replace him with no one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 05:03:17 PM
Cash in now for £4m and invest in a younger replacement.

This is January and we don't have to sell. It's only PO wanting more money for himself after being tapped up by 'Arry. Bleed them dry JP.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 25, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
I'm afraid it will be typical old Albion. We will sell on the 31st and replace him with no one.


How is it the clubs fault, they have done everything possible to keep him over the last couple of years. End of the day if he wants out what can you do. Nothing is confirmed yet but if its true, he can do one!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 25, 2013, 05:08:26 PM
Get rid asap he is the highest paid player in the clubs history weve had our best season since that late 70's and still puts a transfer in wa###r
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 25, 2013, 05:09:57 PM
In fact keep him and let him rot in the u21's if its true
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 05:12:20 PM
Disappointing if he has chosen to go down this route but he obviously knows what the deal is despite not having had proper official talks with QPR.

The whole thing stinks of tapping up probably 'indirectly' through third parties and chasing a player through the media.

Contracts mean nowt these days, anyone who thinks a player has any loyalty to a club is sadly mistaken, greed is the only winner.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 25, 2013, 05:14:36 PM
Incredibly disappointing if true. It will actually confirm what we already know about modern day footballers and that the money is their prime ambition. I can't say I blame them to be honest, but the whole process of this move is one which is leaving a sour taste.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Topman on January 25, 2013, 05:14:53 PM
Spot on oldbury. Like I said in my earlier posts nothing surprises me in football these days but if he goes there this is totally money orientated. This is why football stinks these days.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 25, 2013, 05:15:56 PM
OS saying club has rejected Odemwingie's transfer request.

Get the most we can JP  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 25, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/club-reject-odemwingie-transfer-request-619665.aspx

Baggies insist none of their core players are for sale

ALBION have this afternoon rejected a transfer request from Peter Odemwingie.

The Baggies recently turned down an offer from QPR for the Nigerian international’s services and the club insist none of their core players are for sale.


Sporting & technical director (designate) Richard Garlick said: “Peter is hugely popular with our supporters and it is disappointing that he has decided to hand in a transfer request.


“It was immediately turned down and has done nothing to change our stance during January.


“Peter is under contract until the summer of 2014 and we have no need or desire to sell our core players.


“We want to keep the squad intact to enable us to build on an encouraging first six months of the season.”

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 05:17:20 PM
In fact keep him and let him rot in the u21's if its true

I'd do this I think. Let him rot in the reserves until his contract runs out or he decides he wants to play football again. Or have QPR meet the evaluation of say £6 or 7 million for tapping up PO. It's not as if QPR can't afford it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 25, 2013, 05:18:20 PM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
#wba confirm they have rejected Odemwingie request.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 25, 2013, 05:19:40 PM
The bloke is an absolute nuisance.We have this every transfer window.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 05:23:06 PM
It's QPR that is an obscene club. I bet they have offered to at least double PO's wages + all kinds of bonuses. Why do you think someone like Julio Cesar went to a nothing club like QPR? Moneymoneymoneymoney
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 25, 2013, 05:23:28 PM
Whats the solution now though? Cant see him getting a very nice welcome next game! He has made a right mess of things  ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ross on January 25, 2013, 05:26:25 PM
'... we want to keep him to build on a encouraging first 6 months..'

How is it possible to build Mr Garlick when we aren't buying anyone?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 25, 2013, 05:26:38 PM
He's really made a pigs ear of this hasn't he.

I feel very let down after the way we treated him when he started at the club, but I guess that's what footballers are like these days.

He won't go unless we have a replacement. But either way, his reception against Everton could be interesting...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
The solution is that PO realizes he is an Albion player and performs on the pitch. If he starts to sulk I'm sure there are ways for the club to handle that. He is still under contract.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 25, 2013, 05:29:18 PM
Whats the solution now though? Cant see him getting a very nice welcome next game! He has made a right mess of things  ???

Given the criticism our other players have received over the last month or so I expect this to go down like a lead balloon. There is no way he can recover from this now, either that or he'll have to starting scoring regularly to please the fans. The fact it has been published will ruin him here, but saying that, I expect him to gone by the next time we play.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 25, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
Its been rejected but I still think he will go. If QPR want a proven Premier League striker they should offer atleast 5 million. Bit of a mess really >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 25, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
I really hope that he doesnt go but its not looking to good for us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 05:35:05 PM
Given the criticism our other players have received over the last month or so I expect this to go down like a lead balloon. There is no way he can recover from this now, either that or he'll have to starting scoring regularly to please the fans. The fact it has been published will ruin him here, but saying that, I expect him to gone by the next time we play.

We can't let him go on the cheap. We'll be seen as an easy target for similar under the table maneuvers. JP will bleed them dry, or PO won't go anywhere until the summer at least.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 25, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
We should never keep a player who is unhappy, particularly someone like Odemwingie who is prone to sulking. JP should just bleed QPR for as much as he can.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 25, 2013, 05:37:07 PM
This statement translates one thing for me, give us what we want for him or do one. The club no matter what they say publicly will sell him at the right price.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 25, 2013, 05:37:17 PM
Shocked by both parties decisions.Peter is our favorite player and he is one of the highest earners in the team,I don't know why he want to leave us,it made me really disappointed.
And for the club ,I would let him go if I am JP.I don't want to hold a player that who actually doesn't want to stay here and play for us anymore.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 25, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
I really hope we can get as much as we can for him, just hope we have something lined up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 25, 2013, 05:38:31 PM
So, instead of coming up with an offer that is acceptable in January to Jezza, QPR are trying to save themselves a couple of million by unsettling the player, no doubt offering him a ludicrous amount of money (all hush hush obviously). Jeremy will not be pleased with this and I can see this episode ending very distastefully.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies_24 on January 25, 2013, 05:40:24 PM
Nobody's bigger than the club so if qpr match our valuation I would let him go. To be honest I think our scouting team given 5 or 6 million and 40 grand a week to play with could come up with a gem, as long as the money is used to strengthen the team I don't think hel be missed much.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 25, 2013, 05:42:06 PM
£5 or 6m Fee and £2-3m Wages for someone coming 32 who wants away, I would take that everyday of the week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 25, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Maybe the club wants to stall,to find a replacement first before we sell him?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mini gaardsoe on January 25, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
Just let him rot in the reserves... Serves him right, don't back down, WBA bigger than PO
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 25, 2013, 05:47:12 PM
Just meaningless words from another greedy ..... Let him go 3mill snatch Redknobs hands off quicker he's out the club the better
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieheart on January 25, 2013, 05:47:34 PM
He is a very talented player but he treats us like utter s**t.


Sell him in the summer sod him and sod QPR.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 25, 2013, 05:48:23 PM
Just let him rot in the reserves... Serves him right, don't back down, WBA bigger than PO

I don't think a side with our financial resources can afford to do that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 25, 2013, 05:48:56 PM
Got to say it does leave a sour taste the way Pete has handled this.

However I'm reserving the majority of my anger for Redknapp. The bloke is an absolute tool and so are the media who blindly follow his every word and unsettle players on his behalf.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 25, 2013, 05:50:18 PM
We can't let him go on the cheap. We'll be seen as an easy target for similar under the table maneuvers. JP will bleed them dry, or PO won't go anywhere until the summer at least.

If QPR want him so badly then they shall need to pay what we want.

We have a problem though, do we choose to sell now (providing the price is right) and risk not replacing him or do we wait until the summer, baring in mind any relationship between Odemwingie and the fans is now in ruins.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 25, 2013, 05:52:10 PM
I agree with the above. Anything over 5 mil we should let him go. I think we've had the best out of Pete now anyway. He is still very talented but his form will only deteriorate in the coming years. Let some other club cover his wages when that time comes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 05:54:26 PM
Got to say it does leave a sour taste the way Pete has handled this.

However I'm reserving the majority of my anger for Redknapp. The bloke is an absolute tool and so are the media who blindly follow his every word and unsettle players on his behalf.

I detest the bloke and his constant 'I don't like to talk about other clubs players' and then does for the next 10 minutes rubbish.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 25, 2013, 05:54:57 PM
I honestly don't care. I'll still sing his name next home game. Best player we've ever had in this division.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 25, 2013, 05:58:23 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1312461/redknapp-struggling-land-targets?cc=4716 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1312461/redknapp-struggling-land-targets?cc=4716)
Harry Redknapp has confirmed he is finding it hard to attract players to Queens Park Rangers during the January transfer window.

As they don't have many choices and the transfer clock ticks down,I think they will make a improved offer to us,more than 3m is a sensible price for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 25, 2013, 05:59:05 PM
I detest the bloke and his constant 'I don't like to talk about other clubs players' and then does for the next 10 minutes rubbish.

He's just an arsehole of the highest order.

Doesn't like to talk about other teams players, so I'll get my mates in the media to unsettle the players instead.

So over-rated as a manager as well, thank christ Roy got the England job. Not sure I could cope with seeing 'Arry at all these public events with his cockney "charm" and the media still declaring him some sort of god despite his failings at Spurs and bankrupting Pompey
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 06:00:12 PM
Whether I sing his name depends on his actions from now on. Head down and gets on with the job then yep I will. Starts sulking and the old 'head not right' stuff and he'll deserve every bit of stick he gets (after the game obviously as booing during games at any individual is wrong and helps no-one  ;) )
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 25, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
If he was going to hand a transfer request in then the bloke should of done it at the start of january so we
could of found a replacment, whoever told him to do this a few days before the window shuts need hanging.
Odemwingie really needs to show some respect for the Albion and just wait until the summer for a move away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on January 25, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
I'm afraid it will be typical old Albion. We will sell on the 31st and replace him with no one.

Agreed, can see this coming a mile off.

If it's too short notice to replace him then it's too short notice to sell him.........
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 25, 2013, 06:10:17 PM
£5 or 6m Fee and £2-3m Wages for someone coming 32 who wants away, I would take that everyday of the week.

So would I.

This kind of thing always seems to be just under the surface with Odemwingie. Either that or he does everything his agent tells him without giving it a thought. As a player who's inclined to sulk at times, I expect to see much more of that if he doesn't get to leave before the window closes, with this no doubt being fuelled by vocal antagonism from fans at what he's done. Bridges have been burned and will take some rebuilding, even if the desire is there.

If he does go, I expect us not to sign a replacement before the window closes and also suspect the money received to disappear from our transfer budget by the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
Not at all happy with this !

I've defended him despite some crazy criticism from some fans and I didn't think he would ask for a move. If it was a top PL or European club I could understand but to have his head turned by such a little tin-pot t8ss-pot outfit is shocking and reflects badly upon him.

Seems like the second hand car salesman in charge of the bottom club has weaved his magic and unsettled him well and truely.

Just hope that we stick to our guns and stop him moving barring crazy money that would be spent on an appropriate replacement.

The whole episode stinks - I'd like to know if he's been illegally tapped up by the Far Eastern sc8m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 06:14:14 PM
This statement translates one thing for me, give us what we want for him or do one. The club no matter what they say publicly will sell him at the right price.

Surely we can only sell our best technical player if we have someone of quality lined up as a possibilty ?

Will the Club pay the wages and fee for such a player ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 25, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
I get the feeling if he does go, we won't bring anyone in to replace him.

Let's face it, we aren't renowned for splashing the cash in the better buying window of the summer so in January? Not a chance
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 25, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
Shaky 'Arry is a past master of getting clubs bankrupt or putting them on the verge of it. He's well on his way to doing this again at QPR. Let's help him on his way and relieve QPR for as many millions as we can. One thing's for sure - QPR will not be in the Premiership next season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 25, 2013, 06:24:17 PM
JP will only get the best deal for the club ,if he goes then so be it .Nobody is bigger than the club.Still got Long Lakaku Fortune and Roseburg (who still got to show us his true form) players come and go but there's still the club and us fans
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 25, 2013, 06:24:28 PM
Disappointed Pete has felt the need to hand in the request given the level of support he has received in the past.

On his side of the coin though he is right to take an interest in an offer to potentially double his earnings and would clearly like to hear from them. Never been overly convinced he's that desperate to leave however, got the impression that whilst he would be interested in their offer, he equally isn't bothered if he stays.

I expect the club to demand top money too, around £6 million plus would be fair for me. An important player with 18 months left on a highly paid deal. Our last chance to demand a big fee from a desperate club in a sellers market.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Booker on January 25, 2013, 06:24:40 PM
he wont be missed by me. he seems to hand in a transfer request every season.
if he doesnt score we play with 10 men because the only time he makes an impact is when he comes on late as a sub.
throws his dummy out the pram soon as he found out he wasnt the golden boy anymore and the one thing i wont miss is that stupid face he pulls when he looses the ball.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on January 25, 2013, 06:28:32 PM
Unless we're prepared to give him a pay rise, which is what he's after, we should get the best price and let him go.

I believe he is one of our better players but he hasn't shown up that many times this season so we could cope. Lets face it we won't be getting a replacement so well have to.

I'm disappointed in his reaction especially after stating a few days back about his love or the club, why say that when its obviously in his mind to leave.

Can't blame him if he wants the money, we'd all probably do it, but there's ways to go about these things and not act so falsely towards the fans.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 06:29:19 PM
he wont be missed by me. he seems to hand in a transfer request every season.
if he doesnt score we play with 10 men because the only time he makes an impact is when he comes on late as a sub.
throws his dummy out the pram soon as he found out he wasnt the golden boy anymore and the one thing i wont miss is that stupid face he pulls when he looses the ball.

HMmm wonderful - be interested in what kind of QUALITY you replace him in the team with ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 25, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
Disappointed but he never really fitted into the team this season.
We need a wide player who is skilful but also prepared to do a job for the team,we sell him and move on even if we wait until the summer for a replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hertsbaggiebird on January 25, 2013, 06:31:29 PM
I personally would keep him. It has left us little options for a replacement. I hope the club keep strong on this. PO will then have two options; play well for a move in the summer or sulk so no one comes in for him he runs his contract down and ends up at a lower league club. If he wants a summer move he will need to play his heart out. If the club give in it wills undermine SC who has been making statements no one is leaving.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 06:32:11 PM
JP will only get the best deal for the club ,if he goes then so be it .Nobody is bigger than the club.Still got Long Lakaku Fortune and Roseburg (who still got to show us his true form) players come and go but there's still the club and us fans


BUT what is the BEST deal for the Club - lot's of money and high wage off the payroll that we don't see spent on a suitable replacemnet ?

Lukaku is not, and will never be, our own player after his loan so we are left with Long, Fortune and Rosenberg!!!   Where's the quality as thye look a decent Championship spearhead to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 25, 2013, 06:33:47 PM
Supported him, stuck up for him, rooted for him to get over his little 'head's gone' malarkey, but this takes the biscuit.

To speak one weekend of how the club is to deal with transfers and it's not down to him, and how he loves the club dearly (can't be bothered to find the quote but it was posted earlier in here) for him to do this is despicable.

If he doesn't want to be here and has some cock and bull story about 'wanting to secure his Premier League survival', let him go. I can only hope he goes down with that dire football team and he has to live with the decision. I assume a lot is agent pressure and being unsettled by QPR, but any 'making a better life for himself' is utter garbage.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: CL3MO on January 25, 2013, 06:45:17 PM
£5 or 6m Fee and £2-3m Wages for someone coming 32 who wants away, I would take that everyday of the week.

Completely agree, however it's a case of are we going to replace him?

My guess is a big fat no.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on January 25, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
If he wants to go to QPR then that says everything about him.

Arrys obviously been on the phone, twitching, tell PO he will be getting an extra 20k per week!

Let him go, his career will do what everyone else's does when he leaves us, nosedive!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 25, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
Players come and go and a player who wants away is a waste of space.
Get the best deal we can and find a replacement probably in the summer.
How useful as he been this season anyway?.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 25, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
Genuine question, how much money does a bloke need to be financially secure?

He's been on 40k a week here for 1 and a half seasons, and although he wasn't on that much in his first season it was hardly like he's on minimum wage!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 06:59:29 PM
Very disappointed in Pete in all honesty after the support he has been given since signing and it leave's me feeling 50/50 on this . On one hand if anybody wants to go that much from our club i don't want them here unless they accept "No" straight away and get back to working hard , on the other hand why should we back down to Harry and his Cockney press pal's ?....he was told no yet still tap's up behind the scenes.
You also have to look at the bigger picture and say if we let Q.P.R have their way who's next to be tapped up ?,Mulumbu ? Yacob ? Long ?....this isn't the correct way to do business and makes us look soft to other teams if we let Q.P.R force this in that manner.
Stand firm Albion , SC and JP.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 25, 2013, 07:00:06 PM
PO last week: "So we had a good talk with the club and now I'm here [at WBA] and I would say that it's a club that I love with all my heart."

Well, all of his heart that day.  ::)

I hope he goes. I no longer trust him.

There's a lot of other damning rubbish I could say, but the bottom line is I no longer think he's a good fit for the club, and the sooner he's gone, the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 25, 2013, 07:03:44 PM
As a club, we have a chance to take a massive moral stand here.  We are safe in the league, with only a remote chance of a Europa League place which it seems we would be hesitant about wanting anyway.

I suggest that we state a high price of say £7m to QPR (or to anyone else), and say that we will accept £7m from any club meeting that price. That deal to be done by 28th January, leaving us 3 days to try to sign a replacement. If not done by then, then the £7m offer price is withdrawn.

We should state that if that price is not met, then he categorically will not be sold. He will be made to honour his contract and, if necessary, he will rot in the reserves. We don't HAVE to sell him. He signed a contract with us and was happy with the terms offered.  We don't NEED to sell him. 

If he refuses to play after not getting his move, then we fine him and keep fining him for breach of his contract. Its about time that somebody finally stood up to greedy players and their agents.

If we want £7m and QPR will only pay £6m then he will have to make up the difference himself.

JP is good at playing hardball. This is a perfect opportunity.

   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 25, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
Players come and go and a player who wants away is a waste of space.
Get the best deal we can and find a replacement probably in the summer.
How useful as he been this season anyway?.
I can't believe I agree with KYA about anything, but I have to say, you're spot on there. PO's become more of a distraction at this point.

Am I the only one during the Villa game who felt Pete simply was taking way too many reckless shots. At a certain point, you gotta wonder if he even gives a sh**e any more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on January 25, 2013, 07:04:25 PM
Cant say im overly bothered as long as we get a replacement and squeeze qpr for all we can.

We've no reason to budge and are holding all the cards.

It would have been more painfull a couple of years ago when he was the best we have however we have a fairly strong squad now.

As for all the indignation "how could he leave us" etc ...dont waste your breath.  He'll do the best he can for him and his family and so he should.  He's 31(?) so any last payday is well advised.

The club at least are making all the rights noises.  Essentially if you want him get your wallet out.

I still think this could be good business for us.  I sense we can get more for him now than at seasons end.

We may struggle a bit is no immediate replacement is forthcoming however this seasons ambitions have really gone now anyway. (So long as we get at least two wins from the remaining games).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 25, 2013, 07:07:29 PM
my hatred for harry redknapp is truly incredible. f**k off!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: don1thedon on January 25, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
Very, very disappointed but not surprised, typical of the way the modern game moves. Oh for the days of the King and Bomber in their prime. I've had enough of the fella now and strongly suspect lots of others also have, just get the best deal for our club Messrs Peace & Garlick (1st big test).
On'ards and up'ards!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bigt on January 25, 2013, 07:24:44 PM
As I say "let arry have `im"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on January 25, 2013, 07:26:52 PM
here's a little scenario for you! goes to QPR! they get relagated, puts in another transfer request. probably would be in his contract should he sign for them!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mig on January 25, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
Well given today's news I think now is definitely the time to sell him. Given how rich & desperate QPR are right now, I'd hope to squeeze around £5,000,000 out of them minimum. In 6 months time they'll either be down or, if they stay up, looking in higher places for players. Plus Odemwingie is 32 in the Summer so will be worth less, without even factoring in how this may affect his form should we keep him.

I only hope that his actions don't rub off on any of our other players.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 25, 2013, 07:29:51 PM
As I said earlier in the thread this is a well worn path where 'Arry is concerned and no one should be at least bit surprised that Pete has now handed in a transfer request. Also no one should be in any doubt that his agent knows exactly what QPR will be offering him. Equally the fact that the request was made public (certainly not by the club) and thus souring the player's  relationship with the fans is no accident.

It is very much watershed moment the club can dig in and just sat no and have a disinterested Odemwingie for the rest of the season which would be as much use as a choclate fireguard (one we are paying £40k a week to) or we haggle the best deal possible. Either way I don't see him being around at the start of next season.

If we sell him I doubt that we will replace him in this window although I am sure this scenario is one that could have been forseen so there will be lists of potential replacements (although are replacing a striker or a wider attacker or midfielder?) however with under a week to go to close of the window I doubt we will be able to land someone at a reasonable cost.
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: don1thedon on January 25, 2013, 07:32:49 PM
If we sell him I doubt that we will replace him in this window ...
I suspect you're right!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gablythe on January 25, 2013, 07:35:43 PM
We have an emotional relationship with the club, the players have a financial relationship with the club. I hope that JP drives as hard a bargain as he well knows how and spends the cash shrewdly now or in the summer.
As for PO, thanks for some of the memories. :-
 :-*
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 07:37:41 PM
Pete is a whore who wants to join a squad of whores managed by the biggest whore in the game.

When is something going to be done about the Cancer that is Harry Redknapp?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gavinrussell on January 25, 2013, 07:37:48 PM
If he doesnt go ...what sort of player are we going to be left with ? his confidence is pretty hit and miss at the best of times....fans now know that the "i love the club" was a sham...
Cant help feeling we should cash in while we have the chance....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 07:38:49 PM
Just to add other than JT we have nobody to play in the wide role , i don't see us buying anyone in these last few days.What odds do you give me on him not going and signing a slightly improved new contract in the next month or so ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 07:39:13 PM
If he doesnt go ...what sort of player are we going to be left with ? his confidence is pretty hit and miss at the best of times....fans now know that the "i love the club" was a sham...
Cant help feeling we should cash in while we have the chance....

I'd refuse to sell and keep him here........finish his career.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 25, 2013, 07:43:49 PM
Apparently if reports are to believed  (QPR are leaking like a sieve on this) we have apparently point blank refused to even suggest a price that we would be prepared to sell for, looks like we are playing hardball.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 07:45:10 PM
Apparently if reports are to believed  (QPR are leaking like a sieve on this) we have apparently point blank refused to even suggest a price that we would be prepared to sell for, looks like we are playing hardball.

I'm fully behind JP on this one - i really hope we are keeping a file to send to the FA, sort that vile club out once and for all.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 25, 2013, 07:45:47 PM
If he does go for a decent price, I'd settle for buying Thomas Ince. Also sell Dorrans and buy Kenwynne Jones. Two out, two in, including one of the best young players in the country.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on January 25, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
Before the season started I think most of us expected that we would have a strike force of Long, Odemwingie and Fortune plus Rosenberg and felt reasonably happy with that situation. Then along came Lukaku and we were left wondering why we needed so many strikers. Since then Lukaku has blossomed and we’ve been able to start many games without Odemwingie. For some of them he hasn’t been on the pitch at all and in others he might as well not have been! Yet we are in the top half of the table.

At the same time we are preparing to listen to offers for Graham Dorrans. Since the first I saw him play Graham always has been one of my main hopes for the future of Albion and I would be very sad to see him go. Obviously I don’t know the full story behind the agreement for him to move on but if as, has been stated it is mainly to do with his frustration at lack of playing opportunities then I’d say get rid of Odemwingie and make some space for Dorrans to play more often and show Steve Clark just what we all know he can do. (And before the howl of derision start,  no, I'm not saying Dorrans is a like for like replacement for Odemwingie!)

Frankly, I can’t see that Odemwingie would be that much of a miss for the rest of a season in which we shan’t be winning anything anyway and in which we will have the luxury for the first time since we were in the premiership of potentially being able to blood some of our younger players and build for the future. It doesn’t matter if we lose a few games in consequence. Who wants us to play in Europe anyway when know we’re not good enough yet?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 25, 2013, 07:47:06 PM
Surely this can be kept on a need to know basis at the club , Odemwingies relationship with the fans is now in tatters. If he wanted to go and the right people at the club knew but we didnt nothing would change we would be non the wiser. Why does it have to be so public?

While i have been typing this ive realised why its so public " bloody agents"

5 million and id sell him , not a penny less

Chris Lepowski said the weekend that if he was to go albion wouldnt replace him until the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 07:49:19 PM
Surely this can be kept on a need to know basis at the club , Odemwingies relationship with the fans is now in tatters. If he wanted to go and the right people at the club knew but we didnt nothing would change we would be non the wiser. Why does it have to be so public?

While i have been typing this ive realised why its so public " bloody agents"

5 million and id sell him , not a penny less

Chris Lepowski said the weekend that if he was to go albion wouldnt replace him until the summer.

Because if the club didn't QPR would - its how Harry the Whore works.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 25, 2013, 07:51:14 PM
If he does go for a decent price, I'd settle for buying Thomas Ince. Also sell Dorrans and buy Kenwynne Jones. Two out, two in, including one of the best young players in the country.

Kenwynne Jones :o his scoring record is about as good as Fortunes. 13 goals in 70 odd games for stoke , hasnt he just broke a 28 game scoring drought? wouldnt want him at all

Thomas Ince though now were talking 8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
I suspect you're right!
.And that's the real tradegy of it all - no quality to come in and we limp along for the rest of the season - the squad could have done with freshening up a little anyway yet we just seem to be losing players.

Remember we are currently in a 'relegation' type run.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on January 25, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
Surely this can be kept on a need to know basis at the club , Odemwingies relationship with the fans is now in tatters. If he wanted to go and the right people at the club knew but we didnt nothing would change we would be non the wiser. Why does it have to be so public?

While i have been typing this ive realised why its so public " bloody agents"

5 million and id sell him , not a penny less

Chris Lepowski said the weekend that if he was to go albion wouldnt replace him until the summer.

I think we've handled this perfectly and sent a strong message out...

1) To QPR & other clubs - If you want to buy our players, you'll have to pay the price we want and we won't be unsettled by underhand tactics

2) To Pete - If you think that you can hand in a transfer request underhandedly and not get outed for it after declaring your 'love' for the club then think again. Shut up and get your head down.

3) To other players - You're under contract with us. It will remain so until we see fit that we sell / release you. If you don't want to be humiliated and have your relationship with the fans in tatters (as will be the case now with Pete) then you know how to go about your business.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:03:49 PM
Pete is a whore who wants to join a squad of whores managed by the biggest whore in the game.

When is something going to be done about the Cancer that is Harry Redknapp?

I detest the media loving snake anyway but the way he has unsettled our players makes him even more disgusting. The press seem to love him despite the fact he comes over as thick as sh8t !
I'm sure they will have him plastered all over the tv come deadline day as he orchestrates the London media; salavating on his every word despite his hit and miss managerial record in which his reckless player and wages all but destroyed Pompey yet he gets no blame..............I would love tin-pot QPR to go the same way only with Arry at the helm this time. A pity he wasn't found guilty last year so we wouldn't have to put up with him any more.......

Oh, and the hand-ball from one of his Pompey mercenaries that cost us a Wembley Final still hurts !!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:06:06 PM
I'm fully behind JP on this one - i really hope we are keeping a file to send to the FA, sort that vile club out once and for all.

The League will back their money-men - terrified of the expensive lawyers the Tin-pots (al la the QPR circus) could afford.

It's all about the M-O-N-E-Y innit!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albionwarrior on January 25, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
If Odemwingie wants to go SELL HIM for as much as we can screw out of QPR

No point in Odenwingie staying if he wants to go ...... but if they wont pay £5m .... let him stay and run his contract down.

He is only a temporry custodian in the club ...... I fully understand doing the best for yourself, but as long as the sport has bloke like Robbie Savage, behaving as he does to get what he wants and then the BBC give him a high profile position we all might as well give up having to listen to that arrogant idiot spout out his rubbish all the time.

On the subject of looking after yourself, I assume Odemwingie is on £40 grand per week of his remaining 19 month contract .... that's a total of over £3 million quid .... let the bloke go and please Pete don't BLOKE SMOKE UP OUR ASS when on TV. .... It sucks....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 25, 2013, 08:18:36 PM
I love how everyone has turned on Pete now. I've disliked him for ages and been shot down for saying things like I dislike him because he's utterly selfish.

Some people are fickle eh...  :-*

I wander if he will be the next player to be booed? If he is, dibs on starting the new thread about it  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ogwani on January 25, 2013, 08:19:47 PM
I love how everyone has turned on Pete now. I've disliked him for ages and been shot down for saying things like I dislike him because he's utterly selfish.

Some people are fickle eh...  :-*

I wander if he will be the next player to be booed? If he is, dibs on starting the new thread about it  :P

I'll love him forever but he can go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 25, 2013, 08:20:55 PM
After the statement PO has released on SSN, i have to say that i am extremely disappointed if not p****** off with him and would like to offer my services to drive him down to Loftus road.  extremely annoyed!!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 25, 2013, 08:22:17 PM
Kenwynne Jones :o his scoring record is about as good as Fortunes. 13 goals in 70 odd games for stoke , hasnt he just broke a 28 game scoring drought? wouldnt want him at all

Thomas Ince though now were talking 8)

Jones is hardly going to score goals at a club which doesn't play any football !  In all honesty, we could possibly get away without signing another striker given where we are, or maybe just sign a loan striker as backup, but Ince in for Dorrans and Odemwingie would be progression.  Liverpool won't pay what Blackpool want, which I seem to recall is around £7m.  A bargain in my view.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
I can understand people saying 'let him go' but I cannot see many offering opinions on who we should replace him with ?

So what if we get goos money for him , would you trust Peace to spend big for once ???? The club have plenty of cash swilling around after such low spending in the summer remember.

We have already lost forward players Gera and Wood from the squad and Lukkau on only on loan.

That leaves three big holes to fill if we wait until summer and our club have struggled for ten years to attract genuine Premiership forwards so I have little faith we would conjure up suitable like for like replacements for that trio. We will end up gambling on the cheap again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 25, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Some sort of statement on Sky Sports News or something from him? Anyone know what it siad?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 25, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Absolutely no way we should let him leave this window,numerous reasons including 1) no hope of getting a replacement of sufficient quality in 2) why assist a team with mega money behind them stay up and in all likelihood improve next season 3) he is still the best striker we have and 4) not beyond the bounds of possibility we are one serious injury at the end of the month away from losing Lukaku.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba ay ay ay ay on January 25, 2013, 08:30:13 PM
I have just heard Odemwingie's statement on sky sports news regarding the transfer rejection.
Cant seem to find it to link in this but I was pretty disappointed in what he has said.
Basically saying he wants to play for QPR and some harsh words against the club for not releasing him!
Anyone else heard it an thoughts?
If i can find it ill link it.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Loughborough Baggy on January 25, 2013, 08:32:06 PM
Some sort of statement on Sky Sports News or something from him? Anyone know what it siad?
Very long statement thanking fans but saying that he wanted this challenge and wanted to work under Redknapp.  It also had a pop at the mgmt for failing to tell him about previous interest.  He also whinged about the position he was playing in and the fact that he wasnt an automatic pick.  Roughly translated:  I genuinely like the fans but I want the money and I'm going (or you'll have a seriously disgruntled player).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: b65baggie on January 25, 2013, 08:32:34 PM
Statement said things about the club not letting him know about offers for him to secure his & his family's future , loves the fans, blah blah blah, if he's that important to the team then why is he being played out of position ? club pricing him out of a move etc etc .
No way is this going to end happy !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
He's a disgrace.

No respect for his team mates, no respect for the fans and no respect for himself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 25, 2013, 08:34:46 PM
Jones is hardly going to score goals at a club which doesn't play any football !  In all honesty, we could possibly get away without signing another striker given where we are, or maybe just sign a loan striker as backup, but Ince in for Dorrans and Odemwingie would be progression.  Liverpool won't pay what Blackpool want, which I seem to recall is around £7m.  A bargain in my view.

Jones record in england


2004–2007
 
Southampton
 
71 apperances
 
(19 goals )
 


2004–2005
 
Sheffield Wednesday (loan)
 
7 apperacnes
 
(7 goals)
 


2005
 
Stoke City (loan)
 
13 apperances
 
(3 goals)
 


2007–2010
 
Sunderland
 
94 apperances
 
(26 goals )
 


2010–Current
 
Stoke City
 
70 apperances
 
(13 goal )

Apart from his loan spell at sheff wed [was they in league 1 at the time?] his record is woefull
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 25, 2013, 08:35:01 PM
His statement basically says that he has done wonders for us and deserves to be allowed to move on. Cheeky barsteward. Who the hell does he think he is? I wish we were a wealthy club and could afford to let him rot in the stiffs. Sadly, we are not and we'll just have to let him go. It is infuriating.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:35:28 PM
2) why assist a team with mega money behind them stay up and in all likelihood improve next season 3

Good point as if QPR do stay then they are likely to keep throwing good money after bad which will, despite our slow and careful building of the squad over a number of years (the 'right' way), eventually blow us our of the water and take another place away from us as we will never be able to compete.....................sometimes this PL lark makes you wonder if it's worth all the heartache hoping that clubs would come to their senses and we could compete in a level playing field.
Along come Tin-Pot QPR and blow everything to pieces with such classless and reckless behaviour - at least they now have the right type of person in charge - Used Car Salesman Arry and his Media mates.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:36:54 PM
His statement basically says that he has done wonders for us and deserves to be allowed to move on. Cheeky barsteward. Who the hell does he think he is? I wish we were a wealthy club and could afford to let him rot in the stiffs. Sadly, we are not and we'll just have to let him go. It is infuriating.

Any link ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
Very long statement thanking fans but saying that he wanted this challenge and wanted to work under Redknapp.  It also had a pop at the mgmt for failing to tell him about previous interest.  He also whinged about the position he was playing in and the fact that he wasnt an automatic pick.  Roughly translated:  I genuinely like the fans but I want the money and I'm going (or you'll have a seriously disgruntled player).

So he's been tapped up then by them ??????
How can the FA not act on this ???/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 08:39:45 PM
So he's been tapped up then by them ??????
How can the FA not act on this ???/

They are probably on the same payroll.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
He's a disgrace.

No respect for his team mates, no respect for the fans and no respect for himself.

Will fit in well with Tap-Up Arry from the Tin-Pot club !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 25, 2013, 08:42:46 PM
Jones record in england


2004–2007
 
Southampton
 
71 apperances
 
(19 goals )
 


2004–2005
 
Sheffield Wednesday (loan)
 
7 apperacnes
 
(7 goals)
 


2005
 
Stoke City (loan)
 
13 apperances
 
(3 goals)
 


2007–2010
 
Sunderland
 
94 apperances
 
(26 goals )
 


2010–Current
 
Stoke City
 
70 apperances
 
(13 goal )

Apart from his loan spell at sheff wed [was they in league 1 at the time?] his record is woefull

26 goals in 94 games at Sunderland isn't that bad. It's a goal every 3.5 games, which is 11 goals per season. We haven't had too many strikers who have averaged that in the Premiership !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 08:43:37 PM
Will fit in well with Tap-Up Arry from the Tin-Pot club !

They are welcome to each other, because if he ever wears our shirt again he will be getting the most vile abuse possible from me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on January 25, 2013, 08:44:20 PM
if he wants to go let him! why would we want someone who quite clearly does not want to be here. he is not the be all and end all some people on here think he is! how do you feel about the player you championed now?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 25, 2013, 08:47:19 PM
if he wants to go let him! why would we want someone who quite clearly does not want to be here. he is not the be all and end all some people on here think he is! how do you feel about the player you championed now?

Still like him. Always will.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 25, 2013, 08:49:26 PM
At last some realism, Ive said on here loads of time before that he's a greedy git, every transfer window there's speculation surrounding him. No smoke without fire etc.
I'm not against a player getting the best deal but how many best deals does he want?
Then he comes out with how much he loves the club and fans blah blah puke.
He's just another Robbo.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GREGMT on January 25, 2013, 08:52:07 PM
We've only got ourselves to blame here.

We were doing fine until Yacob got injured and then we bring in championship quality replacements. 

Obviously PO is fed up with playing with lesser quality individuals.  We've had 25 days to bring in better players and we've done nothing.

We'll finish bottom half at this rate.   On the other hand I can see QPR averaging 2ps per game from here onwards.   

Some players are too comfortable at Hawthorns, these are the ones that should be moved on.  We show no aggression apart from when we're behind in a match.

Where's our ambition Mr Peace?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 25, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
Any link ?

No, sorry. I will post if I see something somewhere. Other posters have filled in most of th gaps in his statement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sayer3 on January 25, 2013, 08:54:57 PM
He has been our most prolific forward in the premier league so he should always be looked on fondly but it's a shame it's all ended so sourly
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 25, 2013, 08:56:08 PM
 i say let him go only if the money is right and there is a replacement. if not condemn him to the reserves. He should never be allowed to play for us again after that statement on SSN.  He is not bigger than the club like he thinks he is.  Let him go to the team at the bottom of the league and struggle.  He is not welcome here any more as far as i'm concerned!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
We've only got ourselves to blame here.

We were doing fine until Yacob got injured and then we bring in championship quality replacements. 

Obviously PO is fed up with playing with lesser quality individuals.  We've had 25 days to bring in better players and we've done nothing.

We'll finish bottom half at this rate.   On the other hand I can see QPR averaging 2ps per game from here onwards.   

Some players are too comfortable at Hawthorns, these are the ones that should be moved on.  We show no aggression apart from when we're behind in a match.

Where's our ambition Mr Peace?

Sorry, but you are talking utter pooh.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 25, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
I'd refuse to sell and keep him here........finish his career.
Just what I would do - players need to be put in place at times like this. Also it will deny 'twitcher' another player.

I am disappointed yet not surprised at PO - he's lost alot of the support he had and if JP does not sell cant see him starting too many games now.

Did he kiss his badge against, vile?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on January 25, 2013, 08:58:41 PM
No good in the club keeping Any player when they wont out we should just let JP do wot he does best & get the most for that player he can.
Pete up till now has been the most talented forward we have had in the prem But not in our clubs history he ant.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 25, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12602_8439634,00.html

The statement... >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 25, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
Great player , great goals , he has been our best prem striker(fact) and scored v dingles/villa.
He cost 2 mill and we will get at least 3.5
I will always think fondly of him but we should all remember , Peter Odemwingie (any player)looks after Peter Odemwingie , Jeremy peace looks after our WBA.
Who should we really hero worship??

Be funny if Newcastle came in now?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 25, 2013, 09:01:34 PM
I was willing to accept his leaving, albeit with a heavy heart. I could have almost respected his desire to move for money.

But that statement is just downright disrespectful
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 25, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
We've only got ourselves to blame here.

We were doing fine until Yacob got injured and then we bring in championship quality replacements. 

Obviously PO is fed up with playing with lesser quality individuals.  We've had 25 days to bring in better players and we've done nothing.

We'll finish bottom half at this rate.   On the other hand I can see QPR averaging 2ps per game from here onwards.   

Some players are too comfortable at Hawthorns, these are the ones that should be moved on.  We show no aggression apart from when we're behind in a match.

Where's our ambition Mr Peace?

Get your nose from up his ring.
Petes just a greedy barsteward, nothing to do with lesser quality individuals. He's been one of the poorer performers for most parts this season
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: westbrom87 on January 25, 2013, 09:04:09 PM
He'll go to QPR.

QPR will get relegated.

Redknapp will leave.

Odemwingie is left in Championship with a sh*t manager.

I'll laugh!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 25, 2013, 09:04:46 PM
Great player , great goals , he has been our best prem striker(fact) and scored v dingles/villa.
He cost 2 mill and we will get at least 3.5
I will always think fondly of him but we should all remember , Peter Odemwingie (any player)looks after Peter Odemwingie , Jeremy peace looks after our WBA.
Who should we really hero worship??

Be funny if Newcastle came in now?
But Pete's not french. Why would Newcastle want him?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 25, 2013, 09:06:08 PM
Completely for financial reasons. He is in his early thirties, and will see it as a last opportunity chance to make a quick buck - well his agent does.

Let him go, our last chance to get some top dollar for him, it's clear he is just a mercenary.

Clarke plays him out of position as it is and that's hardly working, so why keep and unhappy player.

Take the money and run. Also, Harry Redknapp, you are a w*nker. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
His statement is sickening, absoloutly sickening.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on January 25, 2013, 09:08:42 PM
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12602_8439634,00.html

The statement... >:(


Fair enough, JP you now what to do sell him & lets move on & don't let him wear a Albion shirt ever again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Esso #13 on January 25, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
I agree with Critical, he'll lose a yard of pace over the next 12 months and then no-one will want him and we'll be stuck paying him £40k+ p/w for another year when he won't get into the side. Therefore this is the last chance to get some decent cash for him, let him so and fail to keep QPR up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 25, 2013, 09:10:48 PM
But Pete's not french. Why would Newcastle want him?
He ate garlic once  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 09:11:57 PM
The whining about the playing out of position is petty, he has played either as a striker or a wide player for most of his career and has stated previously he is happy to do so, so why the change now !!

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on January 25, 2013, 09:14:15 PM
The whining about the playing out of position is petty, he has played either as a striker or a wide player for most of his career and has stated previously he is happy to do so, so why the change now !!



£££££££££££ about 50.000 a week
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 09:18:30 PM
He should be ashamed of that statement on Sky , totally put up to it by agents and Harry .
Good luck taking JP on Pete , you will need it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on January 25, 2013, 09:20:24 PM
I really think the FA should be looking into this Tin pot club make an enquiry there told this player is not for sale only for same tin pot club to then place a offer in for said player less than a week later.
There has to be some tapping up going on here be by odemwingie himself or his agent.

I'm really disappointed with his statement but we have to face the fact that like most players hes a mercenary so let him go and enjoy championship football.

Bye bye Peter
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 09:23:15 PM
I hope he breaks his leg in as many places as possible.

i've worked my balls off all week and still have more going out than coming in, mainly thanks to paying to go and watch greedy cockroaches like him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paul_47 on January 25, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
I can't see what all the fuss and bitterness is about, he has been a great player for us.
I just look at it this way, all of us on here who are employed probably recon we do a good job and get on well with most of our colleges,  mind you most of us don't have fans and definitely don't have agents! Anyhow I am quite fond of where I work but if some other firm offered to maybe double my wages I'd be off like a shot! Wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 25, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
I can't see what all the fuss and bitterness is about, he has been a great player for us.
I just look at it this way, all of us on here who are employed probably recon we do a good job and get on well with most of our colleges,  mind you most of us don't have fans and definitely don't have agents! Anyhow I am quite fond of where I work but if some other firm offered to maybe double my wages I'd be off like a shot! Wouldn't you?

Its greed, pure greed. How many tens of thousands per week does he want? He'll probably never spend what he's got now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
I can't see what all the fuss and bitterness is about, he has been a great player for us.
I just look at it this way, all of us on here who are employed probably recon we do a good job and get on well with most of our colleges,  mind you most of us don't have fans and definitely don't have agents! Anyhow I am quite fond of where I work but if some other firm offered to maybe double my wages I'd be off like a shot! Wouldn't you?

Difference is how many of us have signed a new contract already increasing our wages and committing ourselves to our current employer for the next couple of years and have only a week ago declared our love for said company and our desire to stay ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on January 25, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
I can't see what all the fuss and bitterness is about, he has been a great player for us.
I just look at it this way, all of us on here who are employed probably recon we do a good job and get on well with most of our colleges,  mind you most of us don't have fans and definitely don't have agents! Anyhow I am quite fond of where I work but if some other firm offered to maybe double my wages I'd be off like a shot! Wouldn't you?

Yes in the normal world we woud leave for more cash but lets put it another way would you leave your company paying you £10 / hour and is a healthy stable company to join another company paying you £12 but you may only get that £12 for 6 months as the company may go under.
I know which i would do
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 25, 2013, 09:32:11 PM
I agree with Critical, he'll lose a yard of pace over the next 12 months and then no-one will want him and we'll be stuck paying him £40k+ p/w for another year when he won't get into the side. Therefore this is the last chance to get some decent cash for him, let him so and fail to keep QPR up.

And what if he keeps the Tin-Pot club up ?   More of a future threat to us in midtable......
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 09:35:33 PM
And what if he keeps the Tin-Pot club up ?   More of a future threat to us in midtable......

If he keeps them up he will be gone within 18 months I would hazard a guess as we all know what a wheeler dealer old craggy face is and if they go down he will be gone quicker than a bad curry the next morning
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion07 on January 25, 2013, 09:41:47 PM
Disgusting how in that statement he believes £2 million is an adequate price and thus weakens our hand and lowers the potential transfer fee - urine of Odemwingie and enjoy the money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 25, 2013, 09:42:08 PM
And what if he keeps the Tin-Pot club up ?   More of a future threat to us in midtable......

In that case go lock him up in a cell and throw away the key  ;)

Considering the position we are to them at the minute I'll happily take the 3-5 million or whatever they'll offer. We can easily invest that in to another striker 5 years younger than Pete. He's only going to get worse in time now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 25, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
I really do hate Harry Redknapp.  The Twitchy f****r taps players up all the time.
 
No other reason to go to QPR other than the money.  Well done Pete you've shown your true colours.
 
I wouldnt complain if he moved to a top 6 club who was competing in Europe.
 
Cracking player for us but unfortunately you will go down as a mercenary who plays up every transfer window and then whores himself out to the highest bidder.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 25, 2013, 09:45:26 PM
I don't think his team mates care.

Mulumbu's tweet the other day about him not leaving until he is back makes sence now.

Why is it when everything is rosie at the Albion some bell spoils it for us?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 09:46:34 PM
Maybe on my own here but if i had to choose who to go down out of Villa or QPR it's the cockneys all day for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paul_47 on January 25, 2013, 09:46:51 PM
And what if he keeps the Tin-Pot club up ?   More of a future threat to us in midtable......

If he helps to keep the tin-pot club up there would be more chance of the Vile going down = Win, win in my book  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lola on January 25, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
Very disappointed by the statement he has made and his lack of loyalty. I should not be surprised but strangely I am. I had sadly expected more. Shame on you Pete for agreeing to such a statement! He may have not have written every sentence but he will have agreed to the general meaning and detail in it. Why does business have to be conducted in this unseemly way? It is just bully boy tactics to force our club's hand? Be careful for what you wish for Pete,the grass is always not greener......
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 25, 2013, 09:48:25 PM
Maybe on my own here but if i had to choose who to go down out of Villa or QPR it's the cockneys all day for me.

I'm starting to think this way.

However, there is no reason they both can't go down  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 25, 2013, 09:49:35 PM
But Pete's not french. Why would Newcastle want him?
Has played in France though so perhaps just a loan! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paul_47 on January 25, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Maybe on my own here but if i had to choose who to go down out of Villa or QPR it's the cockneys all day for me.

In an ideal world both of em for me!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on January 25, 2013, 09:52:39 PM
Let him go, we should put a decent price tag on him though.  £10m should do it - he can't blame the club for not allowing him to go and it will test QPR to see just how much they want him. 

His statement doesn't bother me, he wants to go somewhere else and get a big pay day.  We knew this, he's handed a request in, so what else have we learned?  Nothing really. 

The problem we have is it's right at the end of the transfer window, no chance of bringing someone in as decent replacement.  He's scored 1 in 2.6 games for us, it's hard to find a striker like that.  Fortune is no replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
Let him go, we should put a decent price tag on him though.  £10m should do it - he can't blame the club for not allowing him to go and it will test QPR to see just how much they want him. 

His statement doesn't bother me, he wants to go somewhere else and get a big pay day.  We knew this, he's handed a request in, so what else have we learned?  Nothing really. 

The problem we have is it's right at the end of the transfer window, no chance of bringing someone in as decent replacement.  He's scored 1 in 2.6 games for us, it's hard to find a striker like that.  Fortune is no replacement.
It's not our problem mate , if Qpr want him that much why didn't they lump up weeks ago ?
Longer it goes on the more money we should ask for , tick tock ....tick tock.....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 25, 2013, 09:57:12 PM
Petes statement,he shouldnt get a transfer he should get a prison sentence for that rubbish


Odemwingie has responded with a long statement which read: "I'm deeply hurt and in some ways offended by the lack of reciprocal common respect from the management of West Bromwich Albion.

"During my time at the club I believe I have delivered performances, effort and goals.

"I never complained when I found out that the club failed to inform me of enquiries that might have interested me and my family in the past.

"Everyone knows how much effort and commitment I always give when I play for the club. The fans have been great with me and I will always respect them.

"Some may say I have contributed, along with all my team mates, to the survival of the club in the Premier League in recent seasons.

"At this stage of my career, this opportunity may not come around again. A new challenge, a new opportunity, and a chance to play under the stewardship of one of the most respected managers in the game (Harry Redknapp).

"I hope the management of West Bromwich Albion will accept my transfer request in the manner that I have requested it.

"West Bromwich Albion may argue that I am too vital a member of the team to allow me to leave now but I could argue that team selection so far this season has not reflected that and there is more than adequate cover for my position currently in the squad, culminating in my playing out of position.

"I have not taken this decision lightly and I would like West Bromwich Albion to accept what, in my opinion, is more than a reasonable offer from QPR for me."
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mini gaardsoe on January 25, 2013, 09:57:31 PM
Don't give him what he wants, let him rot! Clubs need to take the power back.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lola on January 25, 2013, 10:01:43 PM
I feel like the mafia now - I do not like the disrespect! It is the statement and the manner of the leaving I do not like. I think it is distasteful and common!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 25, 2013, 10:07:35 PM
Let him go when the cockney gits say they will pay 5million. I believe that if he plays next home game it wont be Rosenberg that gets booed it will be him. We got him out of a club that made his life hell and this is how he repays us. Bye Bye greedy git.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 10:12:30 PM
As has been said here, we absolutely must play hardball and JP will. If we let PO go on the cheap (anything under £5 million) Twitchy, should QPR survive which they will I believe with PO helping them and with Remy, will then tap up Yacob/Mulumbu/Olsson in the summer. As we don't have to sell, and in fact the desperate club here is QPR fighting for survival, I think JP will drag this out until the last day and then ask for 7 or 8 million to let QPR stew in their desperation. I believe QPR will pay that much.

This is an extremely important battle for us symbolically, we simply cannot let QPR walk all over us financially or we might as well voluntarily relegate ourselves as we cannot compete. QPR either pay our price or goes to hell. This is so important a sulky Pete doesn't come into it. I'd rather have Pete sulk in the reserves than him banging in goals for QPR saving them tens of millions of pounds, while we sit with a measly handful of millions that won't get us anything close to Pete's quality.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 25, 2013, 10:19:08 PM
He's definitely going to go, the best thing for us now is if others came in for him, Newcastle, Fulham could?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 10:21:02 PM
As has been said here, we absolutely must play hardball and JP will. If we let PO go on the cheap (anything under £5 million) Twitchy, should QPR survive which they will I believe with PO helping them and with Remy, will then tap up Yacob/Mulumbu/Olsson in the summer. As we don't have to sell, and in fact the desperate club here is QPR fighting for survival, I think JP will drag this out until the last day and then ask for 7 or 8 million to let QPR stew in their desperation. I believe QPR will pay that much.

This is an extremely important battle for us symbolically, we simply cannot let QPR walk all over us financially or we might as well voluntarily relegate ourselves as we cannot compete. QPR either pay our price or goes to hell. This is so important a sulky Pete doesn't come into it. I'd rather have Pete sulk in the reserves than him banging in goals for QPR saving them tens of millions of pounds, while we sit with a measly handful of millions that won't get us anything close to Pete's quality.
Your best post in months Sir , i fully agree...if need be cut our own noses off for long term gain!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 10:21:30 PM
They could, but they are not as insane with their money as QPR (remember Remy chose QPR over Newcastle). They simply won't offer PO the same kind of money QPR are doing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lola on January 25, 2013, 10:23:50 PM
He is trying to tie our hands not negotiate. The way he is going about this is disgraceful. Bigging up 'arry and QPR and putting down his current employers is not acceptable. This way of operating should not be allowed. The problem is that this makes his position very, very difficult here which ultimately strengthens his case to leave :( 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on January 25, 2013, 10:24:58 PM
 :o this may sound strange but let him go.
He is going on 32,we get our money back for him (probably 3 mill).
He has saved us many times...he wants a last pay cheque.
I do believe he likes us and has done a job.
If we keep him will he play to his best....No!!
Will he sulk?? .....Yes.

We have Long back...lets put the money towards signing Lukaku next season....maybe 15 mill would get him.

No good keeping a player who wants to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 25, 2013, 10:26:16 PM
As GrGr posted , we have to play hard ball here , we cannot be seen to be a soft touch at all.
If that means Pete sulks for a few months then so be it , tough rubbish!.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Biga4 on January 25, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
In the 30 odd years i've been going up Petes easily one of my favourite ever players, amazing talent, two good feet and pace to burn. He has played a major part in taking us to the next level and for various reasons would have gone gone down with Bomber, Astle, Donald and Super Bob as one of the greats.......however what he has done today just sums up the modern footballer... Thanks pete, i'll be the one picking up the pieces when my nipper asks why he can't have Odemwingie on the back of his shirt!!! Sell him tomorrow, end of.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 25, 2013, 10:27:55 PM
Petes statement,he shouldnt get a transfer he should get a prison sentence for that rubbish


Odemwingie has responded with a long statement which read: "I'm deeply hurt and in some ways offended by the lack of reciprocal common respect from the management of West Bromwich Albion.

"During my time at the club I believe I have delivered performances, effort and goals.

"I never complained when I found out that the club failed to inform me of enquiries that might have interested me and my family in the past.

"Everyone knows how much effort and commitment I always give when I play for the club. The fans have been great with me and I will always respect them.

"Some may say I have contributed, along with all my team mates, to the survival of the club in the Premier League in recent seasons.

"At this stage of my career, this opportunity may not come around again. A new challenge, a new opportunity, and a chance to play under the stewardship of one of the most respected managers in the game (Harry Redknapp).

"I hope the management of West Bromwich Albion will accept my transfer request in the manner that I have requested it.

"West Bromwich Albion may argue that I am too vital a member of the team to allow me to leave now but I could argue that team selection so far this season has not reflected that and there is more than adequate cover for my position currently in the squad, culminating in my playing out of position.

"I have not taken this decision lightly and I would like West Bromwich Albion to accept what, in my opinion, is more than a reasonable offer from QPR for me."

If he made this statement then its disappointing to say the least. He wasnt complaining when the club made him the highest earner and QPR were nowhere to be seen. To me there is more than a smidgen of "prima donna" about this.

"offended by the lack of reciprical respect"......you mean the club wont give you what you want so your throwing the toys out of the pram.

"A chance to play under one of the most respected managers"....................so Steve Clarke isnt respected because he hasnt played you as a centre forward. Note we have two other CFs just as good.

"Accept what is a reasonable offer"..................£3million....er no i think not.

In light of the fact we are all but safe this season for £5million and not a penny less i would say goodbye and good luck. enjoy your time back in the championship.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Lola on January 25, 2013, 10:33:26 PM
We should not allow him to help our opponents - we will not be able to replace him in the little time left in the window and why should we help to boost QPR, even if we get good money for him? Play hard ball!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 25, 2013, 10:35:33 PM
As GrGr posted , we have to play hard ball here , we cannot be seen to be a soft touch at all.
If that means Pete sulks for a few months then so be it , tough rubbish!.

Eh!? Don't know about others but I'm not comfortable about my money contributing towards his wages after what he has just said.

Get someone in who wants to be here!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ross on January 25, 2013, 10:39:14 PM
Our leading scorer for the best two years, and being played off the bench or out of position - he has a point to take a swipe, but that statement left me speechless - pack him off - think he has played his last first team game for us either way  :-\
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GREGMT on January 25, 2013, 10:40:21 PM
As has been said here, we absolutely must play hardball and JP will. If we let PO go on the cheap (anything under £5 million) Twitchy, should QPR survive which they will I believe with PO helping them and with Remy, will then tap up Yacob/Mulumbu/Olsson in the summer. As we don't have to sell, and in fact the desperate club here is QPR fighting for survival, I think JP will drag this out until the last day and then ask for 7 or 8 million to let QPR stew in their desperation. I believe QPR will pay that much.

This is an extremely important battle for us symbolically, we simply cannot let QPR walk all over us financially or we might as well voluntarily relegate ourselves as we cannot compete. QPR either pay our price or goes to hell. This is so important a sulky Pete doesn't come into it. I'd rather have Pete sulk in the reserves than him banging in goals for QPR saving them tens of millions of pounds, while we sit with a measly handful of millions that won't get us anything close to Pete's quality.

Great post.  Give Redknapp and QPR encouragement over buying our players on the cheap, and they'll be queueing up to sign Mulumbu, Yacob and Olsson.

If we become renowned for being a club that sells it's best players then we may as well not bother with the Premier League.

What's galling for me is that the club in question is bottom of the league - how embarrassing for us having to fend off this bid when we're 8th.

The players we should be getting rid of we can't because they want to stay which IMO is breeding complacency and negative results on the pitch.  We're desperate for new faces now to kick start our season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 10:42:32 PM
Eh!? Don't know about others but I'm not comfortable about my money contributing towards his wages after what he has just said.

Get someone in who wants to be here!

If we are seen as a soft touch none of your money will go to the wages of our core players. They will be gone and we will be left with a relegation squad. As soon as we get a decent player other teams will lick their chops and tap him up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Yardley on January 25, 2013, 10:47:35 PM
Think we need to keep him. He will go in the summer but will need to work hard to impress someone daft enough to pay the money peace is going to want. Meaning we get the best out of him and enough time to find a replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 25, 2013, 10:51:00 PM
If we are seen as a soft touch none of your money will go to the wages of our core players. They will be gone and we will be left with a relegation squad. As soon as we get a decent player other teams will lick their chops and tap him up.

Not really. As I've stated, Pete is only going to get worse. So are many of our other players. Although this is a sour situation it is a great opportunity to get rid of a high earner who in 18 months be a shadow of the player who joined us.

It will allow us to cash in and get someone else younger in. And it's not like we are short of strikers as it is, and were in no danger of going down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 25, 2013, 10:55:27 PM
Think we need to keep him. He will go in the summer but will need to work hard to impress someone daft enough to pay the money peace is going to want. Meaning we get the best out of him and enough time to find a replacement.

If he does play again he will only have to make one mistake and he will be blasted,the atmosphere will turn sour and thats not good for the team.

Once you lose the fans there isnt anyway back, after all he is a confidence player and if he is getting abuse he isnt going to be any good.

Edited - text speak
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 25, 2013, 10:58:20 PM
Odemwingie will not play for us again especially after that statement. Maybe the reserves if QPR dont offer the right money. I can see Newcastle or Fulham being tempted aswell. Its not good to have a player who wants to leave aswell.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on January 25, 2013, 10:59:26 PM
I don't think his team mates care.

Mulumbu's tweet the other day about him not leaving until he is back makes sence now.

Why is it when everything is rosie at the Albion some bell spoils it for us?

Could someone explain this? not everyone is a tweeter
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 10:59:26 PM
Great post.  Give Redknapp and QPR encouragement over buying our players on the cheap, and they'll be queueing up to sign Mulumbu, Yacob and Olsson.

If we become renowned for being a club that sells it's best players then we may as well not bother with the Premier League.

What's galling for me is that the club in question is bottom of the league - how embarrassing for us having to fend off this bid when we're 8th.

The players we should be getting rid of we can't because they want to stay which IMO is breeding complacency and negative results on the pitch.  We're desperate for new faces now to kick start our season.

Exactly. If QPR gets PO and survives they will then have even more money they can use to tap up our players. We would allow a vicious circle (also other rich clubs would join the frey). I hope QPR go down tbh, in fact it would be strategically more important for us to see QPR down than even Villa I think. Villa are pretty skint in comparison with QPR and besides, it's fun with derbies. :)

But if there is one thing I trust JP to do it is basic arithmetic. He knows the numbers inside out and I hope QPR have the guts and decency to go up against him openly instead of this cowardly tapping up balls.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 25, 2013, 11:01:03 PM
As has been said here, we absolutely must play hardball and JP will. If we let PO go on the cheap (anything under £5 million) Twitchy, should QPR survive which they will I believe with PO helping them and with Remy, will then tap up Yacob/Mulumbu/Olsson in the summer. As we don't have to sell, and in fact the desperate club here is QPR fighting for survival, I think JP will drag this out until the last day and then ask for 7 or 8 million to let QPR stew in their desperation. I believe QPR will pay that much.

This is an extremely important battle for us symbolically, we simply cannot let QPR walk all over us financially or we might as well voluntarily relegate ourselves as we cannot compete. QPR either pay our price or goes to hell. This is so important a sulky Pete doesn't come into it. I'd rather have Pete sulk in the reserves than him banging in goals for QPR saving them tens of millions of pounds, while we sit with a measly handful of millions that won't get us anything close to Pete's quality.

Quite right.

We have been in similar situations before (with Davies, Kamara, and the rest...) but this is where JP comes into his own and he's never let us down yet - he'll have old Twitchy paying through the nose for PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 25, 2013, 11:01:45 PM
GR makes a point but every player has his price including Odemwingie. £5million would be a fabulous deal for WBA and we move on. I dont buy the theory that selling one player opens the floodgates. Business is business and so if it makes the right sense both from a football point and commercial standpoint then do the deal. Arsenal cashed in on RVP and Man Utd payed top doller but got a good deal as did Arsenal. Would Arsenal be any better off this season if they had him...probably marginal because they dont operate in the same commercial strata as Man Utd which irks their fans but means the sum of the parts dont equal the whole. One player isnt going to be the difference if the rest arnt up to the same standard. If QPR are daft enough to pay through the nose for a player that isnt going to be the difference then thats their problem. We just move on as Arsenal did.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 25, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
When the history of West Bromwich Albion is next republished Peter Odemwingie will be lucky to get half a page, and 50% of that will be because of one afternoon against a urine poor Wolves team.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: solidus on January 25, 2013, 11:04:02 PM
He'll be off no doubt whatsoever. There's only a few clubs in the world who can afford to let a player rot in the reserves - especially when he's their top earner. JP will be loving this - fee's are always inflated in January, and the buying club have rich owners and a stupid manager with a blank chequebook in his pocket.

At least our London office might get some use over the next few days!

I wouldn't be too concerned if we don't buy a replacement in Jan - being safe from relegation we don't have to panic buy and our targets would be more feasible (and cheaper) in the summer.

Always had the feeling this would happen with Pete at some point. There's been countless other stories in other windows, and for me, he's always played for himself rather than the team. Not to take anything away from some of the memories though, dingles hat trick etc!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 25, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
Could someone explain this? not everyone is a tweeter

@mulumbuofficial: @OdemwingieP thanks bro don't sign anyhwere til i get back lol all the best !!see u soon
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 25, 2013, 11:06:27 PM
When the history of West Bromwich Albion is next republished Peter Odemwingie will be lucky to get half a page, and 50% of that will be because of one afternoon against a pee poor Wolves team.

I agree totally Rowley. PO is a very good player who has done a fine job for WBA but lets face it he isnt and never will be "Bomber" will he?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on January 25, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
let him rot in the reserves the ungreatful prat, thats what id do with him get rid in summer >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 25, 2013, 11:13:36 PM
It's hard to know which way to go with this.

Option 1 - Let him sit on 40k per week, in the reserves until summer then sell him. Obviously this is costing the club 40k a week for absolutely nothing, so not sure if this would happen, but no doubt he would lose game time and be less of a player.

Option 2 - Sell him and hope that QPR get relegated. It may open up the door for ones like Rosenberg to get more game time.

Option 3 - Keep him at least until summer, play him and listen to the boos ring out every time he touches the ball.

Just a thought: IF he stayed and got game time, and IF he scored, would anyone cheer or not? Sounds random, but it's just something I was thinking about.

I would rather we sell him, I don't want any hoop playing in stripes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 25, 2013, 11:13:52 PM
Hope we think calmly and rationally now. Pete is a very important part of SC's squad, as he gives us something different up front. If we lose him we are going to struggle scoring goals. Long and Lukaku are decent strikers, but they are not going to be firing on all cylinders for the rest of the season, and will undoubtedly have to miss games here and there. It means we'll end up sliding down the table, unless we can bring in an adequate replacement in the next week. And that's a very big if. So if we can't, we don't sell.. Pete is under contract so JP should be in the driving seat.
However, if QPR won't go away, we could say that we won't talk unless Taarabt is part of the deal. Taarabt is not really a striker, but he is nevertheless class.  Would be interesting to see what Harry makes of that.
You can see why SC was saying he wishes the end of the transfer window would come. But we absolutely must not be left high and dry come 31st Jan.
As for QPR, never liked them. Now, I hope with a passion that they end up relegated.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 11:15:07 PM
let him rot in the reserves the ungreatful prat, thats what id do with him get rid in summer >:(

Yep, we can easily get £2 million for him in the summer. Why should we allow him to leave for QPR for that price now in January? Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 11:23:35 PM
I think it can only end one way with him leaving.

His statement is disrespectful to his manager, the club itself and his teammates. If Clarke starts picking him week in week out it makes him look weak, if he leaves him out it makes him look as though he is holding a grudge so best for all parties if they stump up £6m + and he goes to collect his fifty pieces of silver.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on January 25, 2013, 11:28:45 PM
After hearing that statement on sky, I have totally lost all respect for the man. Who does he think he is. It's Albions choice as to what fee to accept,  he's scored 10 goals a season and reckons he's only worth 2 million. What a joke.

We need to get shot of him, but only on our terms. He deserves all he gets from the crowd if he is still here next week. Cannot understand why he has to be so vocal about wanting out, why bother signing a contract.

Obviously has a problem with not getting game time under Steve Clarke, and since when did Harry gain such hero worship.

Whether he goes now or in the summer he has acted disgustingly with no respect for the club, fans and teammates.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on January 25, 2013, 11:34:36 PM
wanknapp is a prat hope that lot go down, rumours owner is trying to sell club [pompey all over again]
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 25, 2013, 11:35:38 PM
We are not desperate for cash.Put him in the reserves until the end of the season then get rid.We are safe almost so his sulking wont really harm us for the rest of the season.Lets hope both him and his agent suffer financially.Always been billy big boots always will.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 25, 2013, 11:41:24 PM
After hearing that statement on sky, I have totally lost all respect for the man. Who does he think he is. It's Albions choice as to what fee to accept,  he's scored 10 goals a season and reckons he's only worth 2 million. What a joke.

We need to get shot of him, but only on our terms. He deserves all he gets from the crowd if he is still here next week. Cannot understand why he has to be so vocal about wanting out, why bother signing a contract.

Obviously has a problem with not getting game time under Steve Clarke, and since when did Harry gain such hero worship.

Whether he goes now or in the summer he has acted disgustingly with no respect for the club, fans and teammates.

I sincerely hope he doesnt get stick from the supporters. That would be very counter productive. He has a right to request a transfer. Why is there anything wrong with that? Whether he is allowed to go is a different matter. That is the clubs perogative. I expect him to be totally professional and come to play each time he is selected. As long as he does that then he should be supported the same as any player. Rather ironic that people should criticise Brunty as past it and surplus to requirements in the same week. What price loyalty eh? All clubs need (read businesses) loyal employees at the core!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 25, 2013, 11:42:08 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if we were able to send him on loan to Reading or Wigan until the end of the season, and then sell him ;)

However, in the real world, I now can't see anything other than him moving to QPR in the next few days. Harry, Peter and his agent have well and truly done a job on us here. Sticking him in the reserves 'to rot' on his wages is simply not an option for us. Peace can play hardball with the best of them but he isn't stupid. Realistically, he's not going to be able to play for us again, so what does that leave? The thing that his agent, himself and Harry wanted, that we sell him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 25, 2013, 11:47:10 PM
We can afford to leave PO out of the team until summer. It's no different if he had an injury keeping him out is it? In the summer sell him to some team in Turkey or something.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on January 25, 2013, 11:47:50 PM
wanknapp is a prat hope that lot go down, rumours owner is trying to sell club [pompey all over again]
You just know they will stay up though....Harry is one of the luckiest managers around. Love to see him cope managing a club who can't buy their way out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on January 25, 2013, 11:49:17 PM
I sincerely hope he doesnt get stick from the supporters. That would be very counter productive. He has a right to request a transfer. Why is there anything wrong with that? Whether he is allowed to go is a different matter. That is the clubs perogative. I expect him to be totally professional and come to play each time he is selected. As long as he does that then he should be supported the same as any player. Rather ironic that people should criticise Brunty as past it and surplus to requirements in the same week. What price loyalty eh? All clubs need (read businesses) loyal employees at the core!
I have no problem him asking for a transfer, it's the way it's being dealt with that's leaving a very sour taste.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 25, 2013, 11:53:48 PM
I sincerely hope he doesnt get stick from the supporters. That would be very counter productive. He has a right to request a transfer. Why is there anything wrong with that? Whether he is allowed to go is a different matter. That is the clubs perogative. I expect him to be totally professional and come to play each time he is selected. As long as he does that then he should be supported the same as any player. Rather ironic that people should criticise Brunty as past it and surplus to requirements in the same week. What price loyalty eh? All clubs need (read businesses) loyal employees at the core!

He requested, the club rejected it so that should have been it. But no he issued a disrespectful statement trying to force the club to give him what he wants.

There is no loyalty in football these days, only player power.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommi on January 25, 2013, 11:55:09 PM
Whilst Wood isn't the answer we really have been made to look stupid now Peter is on his way out. I feel sorry for Rosenburg already, struggling as he has been he now comes into the frame even more.

Big loss, unbelievable how he is doing it so disrespectfully.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 25, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
He requested, the club rejected it so that should have been it. But no he issued a disrespectful statement trying to force the club to give him what he wants.

There is no loyalty in football these days, only player power.

Cant argue with that. I just hope people dont get too emotive about the whole issue though. No need...hes a good player and as long as he gives his all on the pitch if he does stay until the summer then we would be cutting of our nose to spite our face if we gave him a hard time because of it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 12:00:24 AM
Cant argue with that. I just hope people dont get too emotive about the whole issue though. No need...hes a good player and as long as he gives his all on the pitch if he does stay until the summer then we would be cutting of our nose to spite our face if we gave him a hard time because of it.

Personally I won't boo him but I will understand why others will, i'd rather ignore him, if he scores then obviously i'll cheer the goal as its a goal for the club but it will take a lot for me to sing his name again.

that though is purely hypothetical as I think he has played his last game for us, bit coincidental maybe that this is done this weekend with no game don't you think ??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBArgo on January 26, 2013, 12:01:16 AM
I agree in that selling Odemwingie would look weak on our transfer behalf, which would not be wise in the long-term.

£40k a week is an awful lot in the reserves, but it's not compared to teams swooping in and taking our top talent. As much as he seems idiotic at times, Wigan's Dave Whelan is very good at this, in protecting his players even though they are constantly at unease.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 26, 2013, 12:04:41 AM
Personally I won't boo him but I will understand why others will, i'd rather ignore him, if he scores then obviously i'll cheer the goal as its a goal for the club but it will take a lot for me to sing his name again.

that though is purely hypothetical as I think he has played his last game for us, bit coincidental maybe that this is done this weekend with no game don't you think ??

Yes Oldbury despite the official line from Garlick i think if the price is right JP will sell. Not as if we are going to be relegated and we have Marco who can do a job................................or if i might suggest a certain player who doesnt mind playing there but likes to wander in field on occasion....... ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 12:07:55 AM
Yes Oldbury despite the official line from Garlick i think if the price is right JP will sell. Not as if we are going to be relegated and we have Marco who can do a job................................or if i might suggest a certain player who doesnt mind playing there but likes to wander in field on occasion....... ;)

I could settle for him wandering in occasionally  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 26, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
This statement from Pete has obviously been carefully orchestrated by agents with QPR and Harry all part of it. Obviously its there to bring the sort of reactions you're reading on these webpages so that he burns his bridges back to  West Brom. Very cunning! Hope that JP stays one step ahead  and gives them a very hard run for their money. Hope also that QPR get relegated, that Tony Fernandez pulls his money out of the club and they go into liquidation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 26, 2013, 12:10:11 AM
This statement from Pete has obviously been carefully orchestrated by agents with QPR and Harry all part of it. Obviously its there to bring the sort of reactions you're reading on these webpages so that he burns his bridges back to  West Brom. Very cunning! Hope that JP stays one step ahead  and gives them a very hard run for their money. Hope also that QPR get relegated, that Tony Fernandez pulls his money out of the club and they go into liquidation.

Dont want to see them suffer then Alex......... :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 26, 2013, 12:21:36 AM
We are not desperate for cash.Put him in the reserves until the end of the season then get rid.We are safe almost so his sulking wont really harm us for the rest of the season.Lets hope both him and his agent suffer financially.Always been billy big boots always will.

Why do that when we can pick up an inflated price for him now? To look like we have taken the moral high ground and waste load of money on his wages with him playing in the reserves? Think I know what JP will prefer, take the money.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on January 26, 2013, 12:34:37 AM
i really hate the way bagpuss redknapp conducts himself. theres a couple of players at qpr i like but all depends if they are on stupid money ie hoilett and faulin.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 12:37:09 AM
Worst thing that could have happened.

Our best player and would definitely keep them up. Playing up top would back him to score another ten goals between now and May.

Must not be allowed to leave.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 12:38:21 AM
Why do that when we can pick up an inflated price for him now? To look like we have taken the moral high ground and waste load of money on his wages with him playing in the reserves? Think I know what JP will prefer, take the money.

We just give PO a £400.000 fine for "poor discipline" or something and disrespect towards the club, that's his wages for the spring more or less. Then sell him in the summer, to a team overseas, maybe a team in Russia. Case sorted.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 26, 2013, 12:48:25 AM
Wonder if the Quatar club is still interested - not short of a few bob... ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 26, 2013, 01:00:47 AM
I think Pete has deliberately burnt his bridges with the statement. The player could have handed in a transfer request in private without anyone outside the club even being aware of it. The fact that got out into the media was unfortunate but wholly predictable, however it is the statement which is frankly insulting to the club and its management. There is no way back after that.

The club is in an insidious position we know that we probably have to sell him either now or in the summer. I like the idea of letting him rot for the rest of the season and then unloading him as best as we can in the summer. However that is an expensive point to make and is not a good use of the club's resources. Although I think the club need to make sure that Pete, his agent and Del Boy think that it is an option but ultimately we will do the deal although not on the terms that are currently on offer. 

It is my sincere hope that 'Arry makes the tactical blunder of playing Pete in a 442 behind the main striker and player, club and manager plummet like a stone. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 01:06:11 AM
Disgusted with the idiot but not surprised. He has every right to ask for a transfer but Would rather he had the balls to say i am going for the money, would not make me like him anymore but would a tiny ounce of respect. Instead all the rubbish he has come out with in that statement is pathetic.

Dont patronise fans saying i love you, its not money, but its management, the club, playing position, etc if he is that desperate to play up front for QPR why doesnt he earn £10k a week for them and the other £50k a week they are offering they can put towards 5m for him, surely thats what he will do if he is so desperate to join?

I hope we do get rid, i think the club playing out the fixtures now anyway, so we would have to get by with what we have got. leave it last minute to flog him, QPR need him a lot more than we need the money, come 10pm deadline say £5m or do one and they pay it. I hope i never see the mercenary in an Albion shirt again, i would also gladly boo him if he came back.

Every window there is the rumours and i have always tried to see the positive in him, but there is no smoke without fire. Part of me hopes he does have to stay and i hope our fans give him hell, i think other players would understand too, if he was trying to force a move to Spurs or Arsenal, wouldnt be happy but you understand it, if he had had the balls to say he wants more money, your not happy but he is honest but to come up with such a pathetic statement for his reasons is an insult to his fellow pro's, the fans, and the club in general. He seems the sort of idiot who would go on strike too, i now believe Joseph Yobo's words about Odemwingie and the Nigeria setup, the man is a disgrace to football.

As for QPR, nothing against there fans and for them i wouldnt wish anything bad because they are just like us, fans of a club who have no say in how its run, but as a club in general i would love nothing more than them to be relegated and do a Portsmouth, and make greedy idiots like Odemwingie and other mercenaries on their books lose their wages. For the fans i hope it doesnt happen but as a club they are everything thats wrong with football, trying to buy everything in sight, pay whatever it takes and then when it goes wrong who is left with the mess, ask the Pompey fans. (Redknapp in charge there too)

As for Redknapp, he is what he is, a wheeler dealer, i think he gets away with more than other managers but also no coincidence that soon as Spurs moved to a certain level they got rid and aside from that he has never been in charge of a big club competing for honours and couldnt get the England job so i think for all the media love of him, i dont think those involved in football would trust him with a big job. He is good at what he does and if he gets the idiot to sign for them, he scores goals keep them up then he has done his job, he dont care about Albion.

Morally its wrong but since when has morals come into football, anybody would think the highest paid player at a club, that gave him his chance in english football, made him feel at home after the abuse he suffered elsewhere, gave him the best contract ever given by the club, that he was part of in getting to be the 8th best side in England would want to leave that to go to a tin pot club, run like Trotters Independent Traders, who are bottom of the league and have a chance of playing championship football next year, as if a player would do that! Oh they just have!

It just sums up everything thats bad about modern day football and QPR are just looking out for their interests but as a fan of football in general, people like Odemwingie give it a bad name. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HalesowenTom on January 26, 2013, 01:16:32 AM
the epitome of what is wrong with football. money money money... i mean seriously who goes from the 8th best team in England to a team that is going down... and has the cheek to call us a sinking ship. whats football come to ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on January 26, 2013, 01:16:49 AM
We are not desperate for cash.Put him in the reserves until the end of the season then get rid.We are safe almost so his sulking wont really harm us for the rest of the season.Lets hope both him and his agent suffer financially.Always been billy big boots always will.
totally agree  dont sell untill the summer stick him in the stiffs to teach him a lesson loved the club 3/4 days ago then slaps in a transfer request cant believe him 2 faced twonk we can manage the rest of the season without him dont sell yet it will only help qpr out we had this before with ray harford hope they go down with old codface in charge >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HalesowenTom on January 26, 2013, 01:27:27 AM
but also it is important to note that the bloke is 31 so how long does he have left at the top level? and why wouldn't we accept a wealthy bid from a club that is willing to pay over the top for players and then use the funds to bring in a real out and out winger for the club
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 26, 2013, 01:33:09 AM
Think we got the best out of him in 2010/2011 anyway. Class player but he's finished with us now really. Some good memories though:

http://vimeo.com/25599661
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 01:35:14 AM
As said previous its his right to put in a transfer request if he has that little playing ambition he wants to risk playing the championship next season and is all about the money then thats his choice.

But, at least have the dignity and respect to say i want more money, QPR can offer me way more than WBA, thats why i am going, wouldnt make it right but its honest. Instead he has used a number of reasons which clearly are rubbish and sadly those comments could not be associated with the club all to get his own way. Not the first wont be the last but people have paid his wages for this club the last 2 and half seasons, at least have the dignity to tell the truth about why he wants to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 01:42:31 AM
As said previous its his right to put in a transfer request if he has that little playing ambition he wants to risk playing the championship next season and is all about the money then thats his choice.

But, at least have the dignity and respect to say i want more money, QPR can offer me way more than WBA, thats why i am going, wouldnt make it right but its honest. Instead he has used a number of reasons which clearly are rubbish and sadly those comments could not be associated with the club all to get his own way. Not the first wont be the last but people have paid his wages for this club the last 2 and half seasons, at least have the dignity to tell the truth about why he wants to go.

Get real, name one player who has ever said this...? I doubt Pete has even seen the statement, just something knocked up by his agent to force Peace's hand.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on January 26, 2013, 01:57:16 AM
just wait and see what happens... I don't think pete's reputation will ever be the same now as with every club's fans we take offence to any player wanting out. If he does want to leave or if its the works of his numerous agents it doesn't take away how much he has done for our football club! without him we would not have stayed up two years ago. His footballing ability and profile made us a bigger club and helped us to two straight mid table finishes. It saddens me that he wants to go but if all is true i think we should bleed QPR dry on him ! :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 02:12:03 AM
Get real, name one player who has ever said this...? I doubt Pete has even seen the statement, just something knocked up by his agent to force Peace's hand.

Can we leave out the get real stuff please, no need for petty little comments.


As for the statement I don't see any rush from Pete to distance himself from it since its release.

I admire your loyalty to the bloke and no-one has questioned his ability as a footballer but his actions as undefendable for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on January 26, 2013, 02:40:05 AM
I'd stick him on the bench and get him to warm up every 15 minutes just so he can hear how the fans think of him now. The man is pure greed, has been since day one. Unquestionable talent on his day and always likely to turn a game, but that doesn't make up for bad mouthing the club that saved him from all the racial abuse he cried about in Russia.
Name him as a sub every game for the rest of the season. His name alone is not enough to be in a starting line up for the Baggies, that requires someone with committment and belief in their team and a love of the fans who support him so faithfully.
Judas
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 26, 2013, 02:45:39 AM
A transfer request is one thing, I can sort if accept that.

But that statement is an absolute disgrace. How dare he speak so negatively about his employers. grounds for a large and hefty fine, one that should see us not pay a penny more of his contract until he is moved on. £5m at least. We must sign a replacement though. A decent winger please.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 26, 2013, 02:59:20 AM
I´ve worked in a good number of industries, and under many bosses. The one rule that should never, ever, be broken, is open criticism of management. I´ve witnessed a few that have in the past, and their days were always numbered. I´m looking forward to a club statement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2013, 04:02:11 AM
Get real, name one player who has ever said this...? I doubt Pete has even seen the statement, just something knocked up by his agent to force Peace's hand.

He would have approved it, or if he doesn't agree with it, he would have issued a rebuttal.

I don't mind a transfer request but to release that statement is very poor judgement. Although it'll probably work and get him what he wants. The club can't afford to cut its nose off to spite its face so to say we should keep him till the end of the season is irrational, we can't afford a 40k player to sit on the bench to spite him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GREGMT on January 26, 2013, 07:05:40 AM
If we leave him in the reserves then it'll upset team spirit in the rest of the players.

There's only one option - to accept as much money as possible from QPR in next 5 days.

He's certainly dragged WBA's name through the mud via the world media.  My worry is what are we going to do with the money, do we have time to get a replacement before 31 Jan?

The current performances can't go on.  Aston Villa were beaten by Millwall and Bradford while we limped to a draw.  You can say some of our other players are loyal, the reason is that no other clubs want them, so the end result is loyalty to WBA.

I'm afraid QPR will stay up.  They're working round the clock to bring in quality for big fees.  15 games is a very long way to go in the season and that's why we need incoming transfers ourselves.
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: solidus on January 26, 2013, 07:10:41 AM
Here's hoping the moneybags anzhi and Rubin kazhan start bidding!
Send him back to Russia!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 26, 2013, 07:20:50 AM
FA to put QPR under Transfer Embargo for rest of January due to Tapping Up of Odemwingie


we should post that headline on every football forum/twitter/blog/fansite we can.


Let see if the media will then sensationalize it the way 'Arry has got then to turn PO's head.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: andy_baggie on January 26, 2013, 07:48:00 AM
For those saying that without him we wouldn't have stayed up, point taken.
But if it wasn't for us he would never have got the chance to play premiership football. His just another selfish greedy footballer, like most of them!!

He won't get much more playing time there as they just signed Remy. He'll either be on the bench or out of position just like he is with us. It's all about the money!!

Just hope we can get a replacement in if he does go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 26, 2013, 08:06:47 AM
Cant see him playing for us again.
By releasing that statement with its wording and implications, his position is now untenable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nocky on January 26, 2013, 08:14:28 AM
After the release of that statement I think his position at the club is completely untenable. There might have been a way back for him had he simply submitted a transfer request but the statement he has released is just a step too far.

Disrespectful, condescending and full of untruths. The statement about wanting to work with one of the most respected managers in the games is laughable tbh. There is only one reason that a player would leave a team 8th in the table for one sitting at the bottom of thr league and that's money.

Whilst he is still a hugely important player for us, is his commitment going to be there for the rest of the season? If not i believe we'd be better off getting rid rather than have him disrupt the strong team ethics and ethos that we have worked to build.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 26, 2013, 08:19:48 AM
Blows Hot and cold.get the best deal and get Sinclair on loan with a view
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2013, 08:27:01 AM
Cant see him playing for us again.
By releasing that statement with its wording and implications, his position is now untenable.
Which is probably exactly what he and others wanted,its been choreographed better than a Pans People routine!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boot2006 on January 26, 2013, 08:29:38 AM
That statement is an insult to everyone's intelligence. It also shows him not to be the sharpest tool in the bag.   It says it all really for a player wanting to move to QPR at this point in the season given where they are in the league.  I think he's been a great player for us, definitely our best attacking player.  He will be gone shortly, there's no way back for him now. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on January 26, 2013, 08:30:59 AM
Blows Hot and cold.get the best deal and get Sinclair on loan with a view
I believe Scott Sinclair can't move this season as he has already played for Swansea and Man City.

Coud be wrong dont think you can play for a third.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 26, 2013, 08:36:24 AM
Yes that's correct forgot that ,oh well move on  :-[
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on January 26, 2013, 08:38:01 AM
I think he has to move on - stupid statement, but then again after his twitter arguments with the nigerian FA it's hardly surprising.

Does he realise that in the contract there will be a relegation clause that will half his wages?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 26, 2013, 08:48:23 AM
I believe Scott Sinclair can't move this season as he has already played for Swansea and Man City.

Coud be wrong dont think you can play for a third.

I think you can, but only with FA dispensation.  He only played 13 minutes for Swansea so that may well be possible.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 26, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
It is no real surprise to me,the bloke has angled for a move in every window,then makes a statement saying how much he loves the club when it doesn't happen.
I am too old to be taken in by suchclap trap,but he has broken the hearts of a lot of our young fans who have stood by him and idolised him.He has show total disrespect to them and to West bromwich Albion.

Although he has been our best striker ever at this level i could never take to the bloke,it was all about him,his goal celebration against Villa said it all.

Personally i would make an example of him by keeping him here to the summer and playing him in the reserves.He would probably go on strikebut it wouldn't last when he got no money.

Hold him up to the world as an example of the modern overpaid, spoilt footballer.A player who would leave a club who is 8th in the league for one who might go down.
QPR might have the money(for now),but that will never buy them the history and tradition of West Bromwich Albion.

Pete is a whore,pure and simple.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 26, 2013, 08:49:58 AM
I think he has to move on - stupid statement, but then again after his twitter arguments with the nigerian FA it's hardly surprising.

Does he realise that in the contract there will be a relegation clause that will half his wages?
  I agree, Garlick as come out and said he's going nowhere so that leaves a sulky T...A , the fans have turned against him no way back from this
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 26, 2013, 08:52:25 AM
Get real, name one player who has ever said this...? I doubt Pete has even seen the statement, just something knocked up by his agent to force Peace's hand.
I can name a player. When Gaston Ramirez left his previous club to join Southanpton he stated in a news interview that he wanted to join them because, amongst various other reasons, they were going to pay him a lot of money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 26, 2013, 08:52:34 AM
Wasn't it Yobo who said the other week that he should grow up and stop whinging,after being excluded by Nigeria?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bangkokbaggie on January 26, 2013, 09:06:42 AM
As good a player as he is when he wants to play, the guy has a poor attitude and is disrespectful. There have been hints of it with us before when he has been pushing for a wage increase.

I just wonder whether this situation has been simmering for a while now affecting other players that has partially contributed to our recent poor form on the pitch.

It would be interesting to know how he behaved at previous clubs since becoming a pro. It is well documented about his problems in Russia but apart from the racist element did he also alienate himself from those fans because of his own attitude?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 09:08:02 AM
His statement about the club is disgraceful and disrespectful (agents words or not). He has no doubt played an important part in us establishing ourselves in the Premier League, however he's not quite the player he thinks he is and is far to big for his boots. He was dodging bananas in Russia and we gave him an opportunity to get out. When he arrived in the prem no bugger had heard of him let alone could pronounce his name!!! He was great in his first season, went missing for large parts of last. Out of position or not he's to hot and cold to be regarded as the 'world beater' it appears he is portrayed as.

Take 4 mil and get rid. He'll be pulling the same stunt if QPR get relegated.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albionsteve on January 26, 2013, 09:08:37 AM
It has already been said, but I would re-iterate the fact that we can, and almost must, afford to pay his £40k a week and keep him training and playing with the kids.  If this fiasco does, by some chance, raise some bids from other clubs, then if the bids are what we consider high enough, sell him to those clubs (Even the Vile), but we cannot afford to sell him to Queens Park Strangers this year.  Even if we were to receive £7 million from them, it would cost us so much more in the long run.  A London based club with a Bulti-Millionaire owner, and one of the worlds must over-rated, buyers of mediocre players at top prices, is a huge threat to our long term survival in the Premiership.

With Redknapp's proclivity for spending money and Fernandez' bank balance, as well as the supposed delights of living in London, they would take many players who may be options for us in the future.  It is likely to be a good number of years before Redknapp bankrupts them, by which time we could well be in trouble.

After Odemwingers' statement, I don't ever want to see him playing first team football for my club again.  I fully accept that players have a financial relationship with their employers, not the emotional relationship that we have with the huge businesses that we throw money at which we call "our" clubs.  However, the disrespect he has shown us, his team-mates and his employers is staggering in its naivety.  A place in the team, and the rightful approbation he would receive from the fans, would effect the rest of the team and the whole atmosphere in the ground so this can't be allowed to happen.

If we could sell him to another club, preferably foreign, for £3 million or more I would be very happy but I don't think that will happen.  I don't believe that we have the time to re-invest any income in a replacement, nor do I believe that for the money we would get for him, we would be able to find a player of the same quality.  He is a talented, premiership level, footballer. We cannot however, afford to sell him to QPR and give them the chance of him helping to harm us in the future.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 09:23:33 AM
Get real, name one player who has ever said this...? I doubt Pete has even seen the statement, just something knocked up by his agent to force Peace's hand.
If your theory is true the Odemwingie is a very foolish man being ill advised in allowing such a thing , there was simply no need to release that piece to the press or especially Sky Sports . Idiot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionLegend on January 26, 2013, 09:38:26 AM
Disappointing and disrespectful. I can't see him being here at the end of January but I fear QPR now have the upper hand in negotiations...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Slimbo on January 26, 2013, 09:47:57 AM
Disrespectful, you should never burn your bridges - he has done well and truly.

Cherrio Pete let's get what we can for him and get rid
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: southend baggie on January 26, 2013, 09:51:49 AM
the man has no class so he wil fit in very well at QPR playing for uncle arry, he obviously has pound signs in his eyes and so has his agent so f**k him off and get top money for him, i for one have zero respect for him and what was that gesture after scoring against the vile all about when you hand in  transfer 6 days later, what a knob. really hope arry destroys QPR like he did pompey and pete falls flat on his face the greedy c**t
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 26, 2013, 09:55:18 AM
He's obviously not a stupid man, but there's something childish about the way he behaves, he doesn't seem to twig what it makes him look like.  Get £5m for him, and use the situation to pull the rest of the squad together, we have got other attacking options and we're almost certainly safe.  With any luck he'll get one of his "injuries" (wouldn't wish him anything serious) and not play much for them anyway.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2013, 09:58:17 AM
It has already been said, but I would re-iterate the fact that we can, and almost must, afford to pay his £40k a week and keep him training and playing with the kids.  If this fiasco does, by some chance, raise some bids from other clubs, then if the bids are what we consider high enough, sell him to those clubs (Even the Vile), but we cannot afford to sell him to Queens Park Strangers this year.  Even if we were to receive £7 million from them, it would cost us so much more in the long run.  A London based club with a Bulti-Millionaire owner, and one of the worlds must over-rated, buyers of mediocre players at top prices, is a huge threat to our long term survival in the Premiership.

With Redknapp's proclivity for spending money and Fernandez' bank balance, as well as the supposed delights of living in London, they would take many players who may be options for us in the future.  It is likely to be a good number of years before Redknapp bankrupts them, by which time we could well be in trouble.

After Odemwingers' statement, I don't ever want to see him playing first team football for my club again.  I fully accept that players have a financial relationship with their employers, not the emotional relationship that we have with the huge businesses that we throw money at which we call "our" clubs.  However, the disrespect he has shown us, his team-mates and his employers is staggering in its naivety.  A place in the team, and the rightful approbation he would receive from the fans, would effect the rest of the team and the whole atmosphere in the ground so this can't be allowed to happen.

If we could sell him to another club, preferably foreign, for £3 million or more I would be very happy but I don't think that will happen.  I don't believe that we have the time to re-invest any income in a replacement, nor do I believe that for the money we would get for him, we would be able to find a player of the same quality.  He is a talented, premiership level, footballer. We cannot however, afford to sell him to QPR and give them the chance of him helping to harm us in the future.

Straight off the bat your paying around 1m in wages to him till the end of the season, his value will depreciate even further (although QPR's offer for 2m was pathetic as it was), and it'll be terrible for the team spirit to have someone, perhaps the highest earner, moping around having made it clear they don't want to be here. It's a nice idea that we could punish a player like that but its completely impractical.

I take the point about QPR establishing themselves, but I think they'll do that anyway, signing players like Remy, M'Vila maybe on the way. I don't really understand why they're offering so little though, that's just insulting to the club, particularly given last year they reportedly spent 6m on Zamora at the same age. It's quite odd really, given that they offered 5m for Olsson which is a really fair offer for a centre back who turns 30 in a couple of months.

I'd hold out for 5m, but if that's met its too good a deal to turn down. I don't think he'd even succeed at QPR if he went, I think Odemwingie's a striker who needs to be the main man to really succeed, he's not going to get that with Remy there at QPR.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BILSTONALBION on January 26, 2013, 09:59:25 AM
showing his true colours.....green!
greedy barstool....
bugger off peter,hope all go's well in championship next year
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Brummie Road on January 26, 2013, 09:59:45 AM
It has already been said, but I would re-iterate the fact that we can, and almost must, afford to pay his £40k a week and keep him training and playing with the kids.  If this fiasco does, by some chance, raise some bids from other clubs, then if the bids are what we consider high enough, sell him to those clubs (Even the Vile), but we cannot afford to sell him to Queens Park Strangers this year.  Even if we were to receive £7 million from them, it would cost us so much more in the long run.  A London based club with a Bulti-Millionaire owner, and one of the worlds must over-rated, buyers of mediocre players at top prices, is a huge threat to our long term survival in the Premiership.

With Redknapp's proclivity for spending money and Fernandez' bank balance, as well as the supposed delights of living in London, they would take many players who may be options for us in the future.  It is likely to be a good number of years before Redknapp bankrupts them, by which time we could well be in trouble.

After Odemwingers' statement, I don't ever want to see him playing first team football for my club again.  I fully accept that players have a financial relationship with their employers, not the emotional relationship that we have with the huge businesses that we throw money at which we call "our" clubs.  However, the disrespect he has shown us, his team-mates and his employers is staggering in its naivety.  A place in the team, and the rightful approbation he would receive from the fans, would effect the rest of the team and the whole atmosphere in the ground so this can't be allowed to happen.

If we could sell him to another club, preferably foreign, for £3 million or more I would be very happy but I don't think that will happen.  I don't believe that we have the time to re-invest any income in a replacement, nor do I believe that for the money we would get for him, we would be able to find a player of the same quality.  He is a talented, premiership level, footballer. We cannot however, afford to sell him to QPR and give them the chance of him helping to harm us in the future.

Interesting post and views but I have to completely disagree about the "dangers" of selling him to QPR due to their potential threat to us in the future.

Due to the superb manner in which Albion operates, we are able to punch well above our weight (when taking into account the turnover and wage bills of the vast majority of our competitors - which are well in excess of our own).

The top half of the Championship also has a number of clubs with the potential to make an impact in the Premiership in the event of promotion (which might, or might not, have an impact on us next season).

So sorry mate but I feel those concerns are way off the mark to be honest.

Jeremy Peace and his team are simply outstanding in these situations and you couldn't get a better person involved in the negotiations and I'm sure they will do the right thing - for me though, if QPR were to come up with an offer that resulted in a good profit, then I'd go with it and tell Pete to "F" off, but I'd hazard a guess that this transfer request is absolutely no surprise to the Albion hierarchy and plans are presently in place as to how to handle the situation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 10:04:40 AM
Jacko 2000, no probs getting real mate, but i dont appreciate some parasite saying such utter rubbish as he has spoke when i contribute to his wages each week.

Its his right to ask for a transfer, nobody can stop him, players done it in the past, some get accepted, some dont. Jonathan Greening did it, it got turned down but i dont remember him then uttering some utter tripe of how he loves fans but then going onto criticise the club who he is happy to have £40k a week plus from, no need for it.

Odemwingie will get his move, he knows that, we know that, as i say thats his right but to be so patronising to the club in such a pathetic statement is what has got my back up and a lot of others.

He could of -

a) Handed in a transfer request, turned down, he gets his head down and gets his move anyway, dignified
b) Hands in a transfer request, feels he has to make a statement and tells the truth why he wants to leave, not as dignified but at least he is honest.
c) Hands in a transfer request, makes a statement clutching at excuses which insult the club and its fans, not dignity, comes across as a mercenary and ensured a club where he should of held hero status will always be tarnished.

Sadly he chose option c, i just wonder if Albion offered him £60k a week if all those things he is unhappy about would go away? As for his agents doing it, he has a brain, he can say dont say this or say that, if he doesnt then i would suggest he needs to grow a pair and stand up to his representatives.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Joust on January 26, 2013, 10:07:28 AM
He's a mug. If he wants to go and warm the bench with Arry let him go. We were fine before we signed him and we'l be fine when he goes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieboy74 on January 26, 2013, 10:07:49 AM
At this point, I think it's best to sell.

QPR will hopefully go down and he will end up playing in the MLS................Peter Who?

Look what happened to the last div that left us for them................Ray Harford anyone????

I might have a little bet on him not even scoring for them......

Rejection is always hard to take........and God knows we have had our fair share from players we have respected and admired.

The main thing that worries me is a replacement............but we have managed that before as well.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie Artist on January 26, 2013, 10:10:42 AM
Quote
He could of -

a) Handed in a transfer request, turned down, he gets his head down and gets his move anyway, dignified

But the point is, he wouldn't have got his move if he didn't kick up a fuss.

Whilst people have argued this could lead to other players doing the same, you could also argue if we have a highly publicized occurrence of keeping a player against his will like we have now, we could have trouble attracting talented players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 26, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
Harry is horrible, shouldn't be allowed in football, thankfully when they go down his time in football will probably end?
Pete will leave , I just hope Newcastle come in and his goals help send down villa and qpr.
We cannot leave him in reserves, I know people are angry but its just not practical.
Regarding other clubs coming in for other players, they will regardless of if we sell PO, if Man U want yacob they will get yacob , not because they saw us sell PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BrummieBaggie68 on January 26, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Get real, name one player who has ever said this...? I doubt Pete has even seen the statement, just something knocked up by his agent to force Peace's hand.

It's obviously Pete himself. You can hear his voice incredibly clearly throughout the statement. It's the same strange syntax that he uses, the same hyper-emotional, childishly naive reasoning that we expect from him.

Massively disappointing but not very surprising. I don't think he's evil, just terribly immature and of limited intelligence.

I hope we don't sell him and don't play him till April. The precedent set if we caved to such behaviour would be more damaging than the opportunity cost of the money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 26, 2013, 10:17:49 AM
I don't have much to add to what has already been said. It seems like he's going to go and I don't want anyone playing for us who doesn't want to. I also hope we try to replace him this window but won't be too upset if we don't as prices are inflated and we have options in the squad already.

The point I posted to make is that I hope that the club discloses the fee- I want to know exactly what we get for him and I'd quite like to know what his wages will be a qpr (deliberate lower case).

That's all.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 10:27:28 AM
Baggie Artist, the thing is though i think he would get his move. We have shown before, if a club meets the asking price then we will sell, Greening did it, didnt kick up a fuss, Fulham paid what we wanted and he went.

If QPR offered £5m (which appears to be the magic figure) then Odemwingie would be sold, he doesnt need to kick up a fuss, he can put in a transfer request of course but just because he has Albion wont all of a sudden sell him for £2m. We hold the cards here, we have something they want, we have no reason to sell him unless they pay what we want, if they dont match it we keep him and can stuff him in the reserves til the end of the season, we have enough players to cover him so although he would be a loss in some ways, the team or club wouldnt fall apart if we did or didnt sell him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kirk on January 26, 2013, 10:38:12 AM
Poss did this happen? qpr/agent leak story to press they are interested, wba say no sale, qpr/agent leak bid made wba say not for sale, arry comes out and says we are interested ( thought that was against FA rules but it appears arry not bound by them) qpr/agent leak knob (i wont mention his name again) wants to go, qpr/agent leak transfer request handed in wba say no and so forcing him to come out with that statement, no wonder the russkies and nigeria dont seem to want him.
No longer want him at this club JP go to them and say give us 5 million and you can have him. I'm sure qpr have the money if not I think there was a bank account set up in a dogs name they could use for the money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 10:44:36 AM
I will be very sad to see Odemwinge go, as he has give us so many great memoires over the last couple of seasons. I really do hope QPR go down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
Harry is horrible, shouldn't be allowed in football, thankfully when they go down his time in football will probably end?
Pete will leave , I just hope Newcastle come in and his goals help send down villa and qpr.
We cannot leave him in reserves, I know people are angry but its just not practical.
Regarding other clubs coming in for other players, they will regardless of if we sell PO, if Man U want yacob they will get yacob , not because they saw us sell PO.

Handing in a transfer request is one thing. But this borders on what Tevez did for City with his refusal to play, and subsequent angling for a transfer.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the management find a way to heavily fine PO. Hit him where it hurts, in his pockets. There is no point for us to give him away to QPR this window (accepting their ridiculous offer) as we will get the same amount, minimum, in the summer for him.

The money towards PO's wages have already been accounted for, this means we can afford not to play him should we choose.

Someone asked why QPR made such a derisory offer. It's simple, it's a pee take of WBA as a PL outfit. They are bullying us with their money. I hope, and expect, JP to be in his element in this little tussle. When have we ever let a player leave the club on terms not acceptable to the club under JP? I just can't see it happen now. Especially now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tipton Baggie on January 26, 2013, 10:50:17 AM
Gutted if he goes one of the best strikers i've seen up here, but its a typical attitude of a modern day footballer. Comes as no suprise, if he goes we'll replace him like we always do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 26, 2013, 10:52:28 AM
Not at all happy with the statement >:( you cant blame him for wanting to double his money though.Like many other players we have not comfortable playing out of position.
We can afford to reserve him for the rest of the season.Money next season will cover that cost.We are safe so wont cause a massive amount of damage.Fine him anyway to cover the cost of his salary
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kirk on January 26, 2013, 10:57:38 AM
Anyone rememeber curtis davis  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: colinmax on January 26, 2013, 10:58:42 AM
I would sell him and either go for Hooper of Celtic(His talent was obvious when he played against us for Scunthorpe)or what may surprise many of you go for Sako of Wolves who would supply the crosses for our current strikers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 26, 2013, 11:10:31 AM
I would sell him and either go for Hooper of Celtic(His talent was obvious when he played against us for Scunthorpe)or what may surprise many of you go for Sako of Wolves who would supply the crosses for our current strikers.

To be honest thar aint a bad shout couldnt see it happening mind. When ever ive seen sako he is head and shoulders above anything theve got
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Merbals on January 26, 2013, 11:18:33 AM
Does anyone know legally can a club force a player to go out on loan to a club if he refuses?

I never want to see him play for the club ever again and hope we play hard ball and if our valuation is not met then send him out on loan if we can to a club that can subsidise some of his wages for the rest of the season! Would love to watch the tosser getting kicked week in week out in the chumpionship!

The guy is a total and utter clown!!!  Bye bye you total two faced and disrespectful w?@ker!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 26, 2013, 11:18:54 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8439699/West-Brom-forward-Peter-Odemwingie-wants-to-be-allowed-to-leave-the-club (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11698/8439699/West-Brom-forward-Peter-Odemwingie-wants-to-be-allowed-to-leave-the-club)
Odemwingie has responded with a long statement which read: "I'm deeply hurt and in some ways offended by the lack of reciprocal common respect from the management of West Bromwich Albion.

"During my time at the club I believe I have delivered performances, effort and goals.

"I never complained when I found out that the club failed to inform me of enquiries that might have interested me and my family in the past.

"Everyone knows how much effort and commitment I always give when I play for the club. The fans have been great with me and I will always respect them.

"Some may say I have contributed, along with all my team mates, to the survival of the club in the Premier League in recent seasons.

"At this stage of my career, this opportunity may not come around again. A new challenge, a new opportunity, and a chance to play under the stewardship of one of the most respected managers in the game (Harry Redknapp).

"I hope the management of West Bromwich Albion will accept my transfer request in the manner that I have requested it.

"West Bromwich Albion may argue that I am too vital a member of the team to allow me to leave now but I could argue that team selection so far this season has not reflected that and there is more than adequate cover for my position currently in the squad, culminating in my playing out of position.

"I have not taken this decision lightly and I would like West Bromwich Albion to accept what, in my opinion, is more than a reasonable offer from QPR for me."
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 26, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
Now he is forcing us to let him go,isn't he?We are better to find his replacement as soon as possible,not much time left.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 11:31:24 AM
Now he is forcing us to let him go,isn't he?We are better to find his replacement as soon as possible,not much time left.

Unless QPR stump up something like 7 or 8 million now, I think PO will leave in the summer. JP doesn't take kindly to being toyed with. JP won't act over emotional reasons, nor will he move on the transfer market only to bring on someone who doesn't fit the bigger picture. I doubt we will make any moves in January. What will happen is what the club said will happen, no goings, no comings... Unless QPR stump up something like....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on January 26, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
So he wants to play for Redknapp because he's a well respected coach!! The bloke should have been kicked out of football years ago. Odemwingie has been tapped up and will go on deadline day I reckon.

Do we have the ambition to bring someone in this month though? I'd like to think that there will be some decent players made available for loans towards the end of the window which we could look at.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 26, 2013, 11:45:18 AM
Now he is forcing us to let him go,isn't he?We are better to find his replacement as soon as possible,not much time left.

No chance of replacing him in this window in my opinion. It will be hard enough to get a player of his quality in to begin with without having to pay inflated January prices.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 11:49:02 AM
So he wants to play for Redknapp because he's a well respected coach!! The bloke should have been kicked out of football years ago. Odemwingie has been tapped up and will go on deadline day I reckon.

Do we have the ambition to bring someone in this month though? I'd like to think that there will be some decent players made available for loans towards the end of the window which we could look at.

I would like to see someone come in over the next couple of days, but I think it will be very tough especially someone with real quality. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 26, 2013, 11:50:54 AM
Dont let him go at any price just yet. I want him to face the fans fury.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hunsletbaggie on January 26, 2013, 11:52:13 AM
  Very dissappointed in PO but once a player wants to leave let him go. Clarke and the club have to shoulder some of the responsibility here playing our best finisher out of position while giving too much game time to a bigger clubs future prospect.
    I'm sure he's not the only one unhappy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 11:55:29 AM
  Very dissappointed in PO but once a player wants to leave let him go. Clarke and the club have to shoulder some of the responsibility here playing our best finisher out of position while giving too much game time to a bigger clubs future prospect.
    I'm sure he's not the only one unhappy.

He's not been played out of position, he's been played in a position where he has played for his previous clubs at times and also his country where he has also previously stated he is happy to do so. He may prefer to play more centrally but team/squad game and others have played out of position without any complaints.

Obviously ££££3 have suddenly made him realise he doesn't like it there anymore
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bombersboots on January 26, 2013, 12:06:21 PM
So Peters agent has told him that one last 'big money' day is on the cards at QPR??
I think were all well aware of how it's agents that control football players like odemwingie, for as eloquent as PO appears to be, PL football is all about £££.
If it were me I'd sell him on deadline day, and bring in one or two wide players with pace, as this is the role PO has been providing for us this season anyway.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2013, 12:18:29 PM
He and his agent are trying to make his position untenable so that we sell him. It is a shame it is goping to end this way as it is hard to see ho he can stay now with the reception the fans will no doubt give him.

Im not going to kid myself that football has any morals nowadays. Footballers all want to move to the highest bidder, players dont respect fans, fans dont respect players at all anymore and clubs only keep players for as long as they are useful. As seen in recent weeks with how rubbish our fans have been, we do not exactly make it the most loyal place to be anymore.

I am however still disappointed in Odemwingie. Putting in a transfer request is okay but having a public slanging match with the club is not on, just to force through a move that clearly is NOT GOOD FOR THE CLUB!

QPR have offered 2 million. They are now advising him to force through a move, probably for about 3 million quid. Why would we accept that? We could sell him in the summer for 2 millio to a team like Spurs or Arsenal who need a back up forward for a small fee for a year or two.

Accepting 2 or 3 million now would not be enough. It has to be 5 million, 4.5 at athe very, very least. We simply have no benefit I selling for so cheap.

The saddest thing though is that we will struggle without him and his goals and we now need to find a replacement for the summer as he has been possibly the most key player after Olsson in recent seasons.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 26, 2013, 12:21:40 PM
Now he is forcing us to let him go,isn't he?We are better to find his replacement as soon as possible,not much time left.

Maybe Pete and his agent are so clever that they can even find us a replacement for him !

They seem to think they can run our club afterall.........
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 26, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
The real worry is if we let him go easily to QPR for an unremarkable price (sub£6m) then what signal does that send out to our other quality players ?
Pete, I'm sure, would be instrumental in unsettling others if he got his own way and QPR have already tried for Olsson so you wouldn't bet against them trying for the likes of Mulumbu and Morrison once Odenwingie has a chat with Arry.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Since Fulham got £6 million, potentially £7 million with add-ons for Bobby Zamora last Jan. 31st, I fully expect us to demand at the very minimum £7 million, add £2 million if QPR survive. Anything less is simply totally out of the question. PO is twice the player Zamora ever was and they are the same age at the time of transfer.

 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 26, 2013, 12:42:55 PM
Odemwhinger even has the gall to suggest that the £2m QPR have offered is 'very reasonable'. The more I think of this situation the more I think we should demand a minimum of £6m or keep him. As other posters have said, we'd easily get £2m at the end of the season. If Odemwhinger plays up then fine him heavily - and keep on fining him until he abides by the contract he was so willing to sign.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 26, 2013, 12:43:20 PM
No chance of replacing him in this window in my opinion. It will be hard enough to get a player of his quality in to begin with without having to pay inflated January prices.

We're already having to regularly play people out of position in the side slots, so this will only make it worse. If you sell for inflated prices then you sometimes also have to be prepared to pay them IMO.

Hope you enjoy the lovely London air, Peter, if that's where you end up. Any credit you built up at this club has well and truly been more than debited with your shameful antics this week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 12:48:11 PM
The thing is we have some other very good players but none of them are spoken about as much as Odemwingie every window, he has agents who are sharks and they just constantly tout him about, as i said previous if he didnt like the way they do things, he is a grown man and he can stand upto them. I dont think it will affect Olsson, Long, Mulumbu, etc because i would imagine they dont feel Pete has covered himself in glory. I also think those players have perhaps playing ambitions which Odemwingie clearly hasnt.

If a player goes to a bigger and better club then good luck to them, thats the football chain but for people like Odemwingie to say what he has, instead of the truth all to force a move to bloody QPR then it shows what a pathetic morally corrupt mercenary is.

I dont think it shows a lack of ambition from our side, we let a good, not great player go, i think the first season we saw the best of him, i would of liked him to stay but dont think it will be a disaster if he doesnt, we are not a one man team. If players choose moving to QPR as a career move (not money) then i would seriously have a look at there ambitions, Olsson could of done the same two weeks ago if QPR were such a great club but didnt see him doing that.

As previous posts would state i dont usually agree with booing, especially those giving it everything they have even if they are not good enough in poor form but i hope if Odemwingie does stay his every touch is booed and jeered and every time his name is read out  he gots dogs load of abuse, i dont think for a minute it would affect the other players, they know full well that he doesnt want to be here and the methods he has gone to and what the fans reaction would be, players would respond if players / team mates are unfairly booed (which we have been guilty of) they look out for their own, Odemwingie has made it clear he isnt one of their own.

If he has the nerve to come out if he is forced to stay and say he loves the club, etc it would make me pity him even more, he must think football fans are naive and idiots we are not. I also hope if he comes back with another team, (prob wont be QPR, will of forced through his 'dream' move to Stoke in the summer or something) that our fans not only give him loads of abuse but also the players, likes of Olsson, get in his ear, tell him he is s**t, ask him what he has won, why no big club has ever wanted him, etc really get in his head because he seems such a mentally fragile  person it would put him off his game. I couldnt care less about if it upset him, by the way he has spoke in his statement, he has treated us fans as mugs by the way he has gone about things and expecting us to believe his reasons instead of telling the truth so i would treat him like a mug.

No player in Albion history has wound me up as this idiot. I would love him to read this forum and let him know what fans think of him, and so he knows he could of left with his head held high but the way he has gone about it means to me i will always look at him as a mercenary scumbag, rather than the bloke who played a part in us being the best team of my time watching Albion, his parting shot has ensured he will be remembered for that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Wbamitch on January 26, 2013, 12:49:05 PM
Very dissapointing and frustrating to see the club dragged around like this in the public eye. It really is a tough situation, one of the biggest transfer dilemma's i have seen at the Albion.

No doubt Odemwingie is a massive player for us and his departure could be a huge impact on us and certainly QPR. Fantastic footballer but he has realy shown a lack of maturity with this statement and you simly cannot see him staying now, he has to go.
I really hope QPR go down, plain and simply money reasons that has turned his head. I could totally understand if he wanted to have a crack at a higher club as his performances for us the past 3 seasons have certainly earned him the possible opportunity, but QPR!! He always said if he was to leave it would be for a great opportunity, i just don't see that at QPR. They could still very easily go down with his services and it would absolutely serve him right if they do.

If this was earlier in the Window i believe the club could handle it well for all parties but this is a really tough situation with it coming so close to Deadline day.
I'm sure we would at least look for an acceptable price which is 6 million plus + Surely?? This statement has proved he is really going to make it difficult for us and could cause an unhappy camp, so the sooner we get rid the better. Also adding to that and rightly so the fans will be furious with him, can't see him being welcomed onto the Hawthorns pitch again.
Let's see how much QPR show off their money, i personally feel they will be a bit stubborn in trying to get an absolutely snip

We were so close to that Deadline day that Clarke was longing for now we have been thrown at with this, plus you have to remember it is essential we get a replacement and that is going to be extremely tough with the few days left.

I know Pete is 31 but Wolves got 14 million for Fletcher, Odemwingie has as much goals in him and carriers a much greater threat imo. I hope we get at the very least 8 million to be honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: solidus on January 26, 2013, 12:49:44 PM
Since Fulham got £6 million, potentially £7 million with add-ons for Bobby Zamora last Jan. 31st, I fully expect us to demand at the very minimum £7 million, add £2 million if QPR survive. Anything less is simply totally out of the question. PO is twice the player Zamora ever was and they are the same age at the time of transfer.

I should imagine JP will mention this to Fernandez whilst explaining why he's rejecting their 2 million offer!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
Odemwhinger even has the gall to suggest that the £2m QPR have offered is 'very reasonable'. The more I think of this situation the more I think we should demand a minimum of £6m or keep him. As other posters have said, we'd easily get £2m at the end of the season. If Odemwhinger plays up then fine him heavily - and keep on fining him until he abides by the contract he was so willing to sign.

Yep, JP should simply treat PO as if he were a 5 year old screaming for goodies. Ignore him and if he acts up fine the hell out of him, since money is the only thing PO cares about. And fine him for talking with QPR behind our backs.

PO has made a right mess for himself and we should let him stew in it unless he grows up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Biga4 on January 26, 2013, 12:55:46 PM
£2mill reasonable fee???? Obviously doesnt rate himself haha............ Pete you have ruined my weekend!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2013, 01:10:23 PM
Just as a matter of interest anybody know who his agent is?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_liam on January 26, 2013, 01:21:18 PM
I'd happily accept the £2million pound offer, if they were to throw in Hoilett as well!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 01:22:33 PM
Just as a matter of interest anybody know who his agent is?

David Omigie, Nigerian agent. Don't know anything more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies_24 on January 26, 2013, 01:27:25 PM
Frankly that's a disgusting statement for Odemwingie to come out with. The club has backed him through the racism from the Moscow fans, the times his head wasn't in the right place, the injuries of which I'm sure he could have played through, gave him a 40 grand a week contract after just one season with us. I can't really blame the guy for wanting to leave its his last shot at a big payday but to drag the club through this publicly is bang out of order it's an insult to the club and fans, I'd rather we told qpr to do one and let him rot in the reserves for the next 3 years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: weareblueweare white on January 26, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
Odemwhinger even has the gall to suggest that the £2m QPR have offered is 'very reasonable'. The more I think of this situation the more I think we should demand a minimum of £6m or keep him. As other posters have said, we'd easily get £2m at the end of the season. If Odemwhinger plays up then fine him heavily - and keep on fining him until he abides by the contract he was so willing to sign.
He can't value himself very highly then ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 26, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
Values himself high enough to believe he deserves to double his wages but not enough to believe the club deserve a fee that matches.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Roolee on January 26, 2013, 01:56:23 PM
If he was really considering his family he would not be moving a new Mom away from her home and friends.

Hope QPR have a clause in his contract to cut his pay by 2 thirds when they get relegated, see how much he loves Arry then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 26, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
I'd happily accept the £2million pound offer, if they were to throw in Hoilett as well!
thats a good shout make QPR pay they're suppose to be a big club .He must have been impressed with the 8,990 at the cup game 8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 26, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
Bye bye.  Like many before you I'm sure you will come to regret it. You're not and never will be bigger than our club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 26, 2013, 02:34:08 PM
The statement is disgusting and stinks of a player who is throwing the toys out of pram. It is disrespectful to the fans, the club, his team-mates and most importantly Steve Clarke. The part where he mentions Harry Redknapp is where it becomes disrespectful to SC but nothing from these modern day footballers surprise me. I would love nothing more than to let him rot in the reserves, however, we simply do not have the resources to make that happen and now due to the transfer request and this statement, the club have no choice but to sell him to the highest bidder.

The problem is finding a replacement. It is ok listing players like Hooper and Jones etc but what we need is a flair type player who can offer something similar to Odemwingie, not replace him with somebody different and someone to similar to what we already have.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 02:39:57 PM
The statement is disgusting and stinks of a player who is throwing the toys out of pram. It is disrespectful to the fans, the club, his team-mates and most importantly Steve Clarke. The part where he mentions Harry Redknapp is where it becomes disrespectful to SC but nothing from these modern day footballers surprise me. I would love nothing more than to let him rot in the reserves, however, we simply do not have the resources to make that happen and now due to the transfer request and this statement, the club have no choice but to sell him to the highest bidder.

The problem is finding a replacement. It is ok listing players like Hooper and Jones etc but what we need is a flair type player who can offer something similar to Odemwingie, not replace him with somebody different and someone to similar to what we already have.
Unless QPR come back with a 4 million plus offer there won't be much difference in the fee we get now and a few months from now in the summer mate , im sure we could afford a small hit money wise and frankly i hope we do to take a stand for clubs who try to build things the right way in the Premier League unlike Dirty Harry and that Loadsa money chairman of theirs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
I would hope we get at least four million for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion07 on January 26, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
"I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo" From Odemwingie's twitter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
"I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo" From Odemwingie's twitter.
What a load of rubbish......££££££££.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 26, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
"I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo" From Odemwingie's twitter.
I've watched him play and doubt his commitment in lots of matches!  Also at every transfer window when he plays media games to renegotiate his contract I question his commitment.  It does appear to be a recurring theme throughtout his career.  Smoke/fire.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 03:09:57 PM
Embarrassing and that hole he started digging yesterday is getting bigger  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 03:10:33 PM
What a load of rubbish......££££££££.

Yup. #grabmoneyandrun
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 26, 2013, 03:10:58 PM
2 more tweets from him...


Albion fans are not the only reason,but made it easier for me to decide to stay and try my best to forget about the disappointment.

Want to know why I wanted to quit top flight football last summer earlier than I wished to ? They know at the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 26, 2013, 03:11:37 PM
Brilliant news that he has put that statement out, QPR are desperate and JP will drag this out until he gets what he wants for PO £5m+ and if you add his wages we are looking at £8m for us in cash. He has ensured we will get a massive amount of money for someone who is 32 and coming towards the end of his career, the timing could not be better for us. If we left it till the summer we could have got a quarter of this, QPR need to pay whatever we want and that makes me smile. JP will take Fernandez for every penny he can.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:11:59 PM
Embarrassing and that hole he started digging yesterday is getting bigger  ::)

It certianly wasnt one of the best things that he could have said really.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 03:12:28 PM
Embarrassing and that hole he started digging yesterday is getting bigger  ::)
If he is still here next month Odemwingie is going to look very silly.His agent might want to try telling his client to be quiet for a while.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 03:12:38 PM
Other tweets so far:

"Want to know why I wanted to quit top flight football last summer earlier than I wished to? The club know."

"Albion fans are not the only reason but made it easier for me to decide to stay and try my best to forget about disappointment."

"I succeeded in doing that. But it's not getting better.Before bigger disappointment comes one day I better leave on a good note."

"I am crazy haha adviser text saying don't tweet, it weakens our position. Doesn't weaken nothing ! When I want to do something, I Do it."
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 26, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Want to know why I wanted to quit top flight football last summer earlier than I wished to ? They know at the club.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Albion fans are not the only reason,but made it easier for me to decide to stay and try my best to forget about the disappointment.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

I succeeded in doing that. But it's not getting better.Before bigger disappointment comes one day I better leave on a good note.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

I am crazy haha adviser text saying don't tweet, it weakens our position. Doesn't weaken nothing ! When I want to do something, I Do it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:16:23 PM
Well I think we can say that is best years have been with us. I cant see him playing that much for them really as they have just brought in Remy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 26, 2013, 03:19:22 PM
The guy has lost the plot. He is in danger of not only upsetting us and our club, but putting QPR off too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 03:20:13 PM
I think Pete's been on the old juice! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 03:21:36 PM
The guy has lost the plot. He is in danger of not only upsetting us and our club, but putting QPR off too.

Even his agent is smacking his head in disbelief heh.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 03:22:08 PM
I think he's trying to force it through by alienating himself totally and knowing the fans will turn on him for his Twitter rants which seem designed on doing just that.

I really hope someone has hacked his account  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 26, 2013, 03:22:42 PM
Shown his true colours on twitter there, absolutely pathetic.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AidantheBaggies on January 26, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
The bloke wants to go, let him go. He clearly has no passion for Albion anymore, better off without him now. But I will say thanks for the memories, scored some vital goals for us during his time here. But a sour note to leave on for sure!!!

As for a replacement I cant see us brining anyone in before Thursday. I think we can manage until the summer.

Oh and by the way I HATE HARRY REDKNAPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2013, 03:27:23 PM
For somebody who has always come across as well spoken and level headed he is making himself look a total c*** with or without help!! >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:27:43 PM
Pretty dissapointing to see how this is all panning out now. Its sad to see a player like Odemwingie leaving but the way he is going about it is pretty poor from him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on January 26, 2013, 03:27:55 PM
This is all very sad. He was one my favourites, but it's quite evident that he is a **** of the highest order.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
The bloke wants to go, let him go. He clearly has no passion for Albion anymore, better off without him now. But I will say thanks for the memories, scored some vital goals for us during his time here. But a sour note to leave on for sure!!!

As for a replacement I cant see us brining anyone in before Thursday. I think we can manage until the summer.

Oh and by the way I HATE HARRY REDKNAPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

No way we yield to this baby throwing his toys out the pram. QPR meet our evaluation or PO goes nowhere until the summer at least.

I hope the tweets make QPR withdraw their offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:29:32 PM
This is all very sad. He was one my favourites, but it's quite evident that he is a **** of the highest order.

for a player that has given us some many great times, goals against Wolves, and all of his others goals its a sad way for him to go really.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 26, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
Imagine if the move doesn't go through this transfer window?

Never seen such acts of petulance.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 03:32:22 PM
Imagine if the move doesn't go through this transfer window?

Never seen such acts of petulance.
I would love it mate followed by QPR going down..........
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on January 26, 2013, 03:33:43 PM
Perhaps there's a reason he doesn't play for Nigeria any more.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 26, 2013, 03:35:14 PM
This is getting embarrassing now. Well and truly made a fool of himself now. Lost his mind.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 03:35:41 PM
This is all very sad. He was one my favourites, but it's quite evident that he is a **** of the highest order.

Very clearly so. I hope JP keeps a cool head and doesn't let this creepy emotional manipulation get to him. Just stick to the facts and milk QPR for as close to 8 figures as possible. If PO stays just slap him with a huge fine for disrespecting the club.

I'm sure QPR fans will be thrilled when/if they finally land PO. They know he doesn't give a poo about them or their club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 26, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
I would love it mate followed by QPR going down..........

Makes no difference to him when they've cut his wages. He'll just hand in a transfer request and beg for a move elsewhere.

There are ways of doing things and unfortunately Odemwingie has gone totally the wrong way about it.

We get the fact you want to leave, it should have ended there. The ramblings on twitter just make himself look like a greedy, inconsiderate, disrespectful **** but the man has no shame and therefore this will have no bearing on himself whatsoever.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:38:11 PM
If the deal wasnt to go through, what would happen then?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 26, 2013, 03:40:30 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267908/QPR-owner-Tony-Fernandes-plans-drastic-wage-cuts-summer.html

I wonder if PO has seen this article.......
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
Starting to find it quite amusing what an immature pathetic baby he is!

I mean he is so harshly treated, for one how dare out manager ask him to play in an attacking position to the right of where he normally does, that £40k a week is an insult when you asked to do such crazy things like that! Fancy also forcing him to stay at a club where he is one of the highest paid players, happy to sign a new deal one year into his old one, where he was welcomed with open arms, treated like a king (before he even stepped on the pitch) after a season of suffering personal abuse at his old club, he is the victim here!

I despite the bloke with a passion, imagine the fuss he will kick up if QPR go down and he may have to take a pay cut! Pathetic excuse for a person and a footballer the way he has conducted himself with this and whole twitter thing shows he has no common sense whatsoever. Part of me would say £8m or nothing, and then if they dont, keep him here the season, make him do double sessions every day, treat him like he feels he is being treated anyway, dont let him play for any of the teams not even the kids, they shouldnt have to play with idiots like him, it would cost us prob £40k a week for 5 months til the end of June, so prob around £800k in wages, knock two weeks of that off for his fine for his behaviour lately, take it to the FA how he has gone about it, he clearly has spoken to another club so that breaks the rules, any time he makes a comment about it publicly fine him, he cant keep his mouth shut so that £800k would soon be £400k.

I know its unlikely but would love a club to take a stand and let players know they dont call the shots, i think it would only take one club to do it and others would follow, i hope we are that club but i doubt it.

QPR - you are welcome to him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 26, 2013, 03:41:25 PM
If the deal wasnt to go through, what would happen then?

He would have to cow down to the supporters in hope that he can be forgiven.

Or, he'll refuse to play which seems a likely option given how much of a prat he is proving to be.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on January 26, 2013, 03:41:43 PM
Loved him but get rid! Nothing here we haven't seen from footballers in the past. I don't think he ever wanted to be at the Albion.

Very good player. But like a lot of players no class...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 26, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
If I was one of those involved in doing deals at QPR and I had seen those tweets I would pull out of any kind of deal immediately. Not the kind of character you need in a dressing room, we will be lucky to get rid of him now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 03:43:21 PM
He would have to cow down to the supporters in hope that he can be forgiven.

Or, he'll refuse to play which seems a likely option given how much of a prat he is proving to be.

I'd love to see him do that so we can fine the hell out of him. He'll achieve the opposite of what he wants...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 26, 2013, 03:46:30 PM
Just a reminder folks, if people feel the need to swear then can you please block out the letters using ****. I've already edited and deleted enough posts due to the language involved.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:47:02 PM
What does Pete do if QPR go down, surely then they will reduce there wage bill, and would Harry want to manage in the Championship?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on January 26, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
How does P O plus some cash for Danny Graham sound?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2013, 03:54:17 PM
How does P O plus some cash for Danny Graham sound?
Sounds good but his behaviour is going to put other possible buyers off thus weakening our position so the only bidders will be the club where he wants to go makes you think if other parties are at work here as well as Petulant Pete!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionLegend on January 26, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
Incredible, how can a player go from such a fans favorite to this in such a short space of time!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
Incredible, how can a player go from such a fans favorite to this in such a short space of time!

It is incredible. but he has come out and said some pretty stupid things so, serves him right really.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
Has Harry promised him an FA cup final appearance? :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Blowee on January 26, 2013, 04:11:04 PM
This confirms my reasons for not renewing my season ticket for the first time since 1978. Today's game is all about pure greed. Of course Odemwingie wants to leave - he's only getting £39,000 a week at West Brom. Do a Google image search for Premiership Footballer's wage slips Tevez earns nearly £750,000 a month! Football has become a mugs game and you'd have to be a mug to pay the sort of inflated ticket prices charged. I thought I'd miss it but I don't and I'm pleased not to be a part of paying ridiculous sums of money to players who ego is only matched by the size of their bank accounts!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 04:25:31 PM
Has Harry promised him an FA cup final appearance? :D

It will have to be for next season then, thats if Harry is still there by then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2013, 04:28:38 PM
Oh dear, what a way to leave the club. Im not convinced this will guarantee us a big deal myself as QPR now know they can get him at a cut price deal, after all, there is now clearly no way he can play for us again else it will be an Alpay - Villa type situation.

I still say we hold out for what we wanted before though and don't crumble now accepting a cut price deal. We have to show our other players they we wont accept this way of leaving. Instead, we either get the full price for him or he deals with the consequences of his actions.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on January 26, 2013, 04:36:04 PM
Shown his true colours on twitter there, absolutely pathetic.

Despite being racist and biased in their views.... Lokomotive fans said this would happen after 2/3 years
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 04:36:59 PM
Oh dear, what a way to leave the club. Im not convinced this will guarantee us a big deal myself as QPR now know they can get him at a cut price deal, after all, there is now clearly no way he can play for us again else it will be an Alpay - Villa type situation.

I still say we hold out for what we wanted before though and don't crumble now accepting a cut price deal. We have to show our other players they we wont accept this way of leaving. Instead, we either get the full price for him or he deals with the consequences of his actions.

maybe someone had a word in his ear ??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on January 26, 2013, 04:37:35 PM
I can just imagine if he doesn't get to leave.
All the usual c**p he spouts about loving the Albion and the fans and never wanting to leave.

Just let him go, put it down to poor character and watch his talent dwindle off into obscurity.
He'll just be a memory in a couple of years, probably playing championship football if he's lucky.
I'd take 3m and send him off in a cab.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on January 26, 2013, 04:38:03 PM
How does P O plus some cash for Danny Graham sound?

Sounds like a step backwards
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on January 26, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
If QPR want him make them stump up 4 million and get rid, and go for Danny Graham or Charlie Austin. We get this every transfer window with PO let him go for the 80K per week and rot in the championship. Badge kissing and loving the club one minute and wanting to leave the next. And again who saved him from the racial abuse that he was getting in Russia and gave him the chance to make a name in the Premier league. Loyality what, there will never be another Bomber Brown!   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 26, 2013, 04:43:58 PM
We could, to keep him happy, accept his transfer request, but obviously not accept an offer until our valuation of him is met.  this way he gets what he wants, and when he hasn't left due to other clubs seeing the worst side of him and his behaviour, and deciding that they too do not want this sort of player on their books. He will then realise that he cant carry on this way. 

I'm not saying i want to keep at the club, especially after this behaviour, but it will teach him a lesson in that he cant always get what he wants!

i hope he goes, he's a waste of 40k, a shirt, a squad number and a waste of my time even writing this.

Someone said on another post some time ago, that when he does play for us, if he doesn't score its like we're playing with 10 men.  Give his place to someone who wants to be here, will give 100% on the pitch and hopefully we might see a morale boost around the players.  He is a prima donna who thinks that everyone associated with the club owes him!!

get rid JP he's a disgrace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
maybe someone had a word in his ear ??

Who knows. His advisers don't seem impressed but it's hard to tell what goes on in the murky world of football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 26, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
P O on twitter

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I am crazy haha adviser text saying don't tweet, it weakens our position. Doesn't weaken nothing ! When I want to do something, I Do it.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I succeeded in doing that. But it's not getting better.Before bigger disappointment comes one day I better leave on a good note.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 26, 2013, 04:57:44 PM
I think we should hold on a second here. The guy is being strung up by the mob for speaking his mind. Is Peter a bit of a drama queen?...yes but then he always has been so nothing new there. Is he prone to a bit of self adulation and to be a bit difficult to understand? yes but this is often a trait common to highly competitive athletes in all sports. Ronnie O Sullivan for example.
Clearly he is unhappy about something but before we all write him off perhaps we (the club) should find out exactly what the problem is and whether there is a solution.
It worries me that the general assumption seems to be that he is some sort of callous money grabber when that may not be the case at all.
In my view we as supporters are of course entitled to have an opinion but should continue on match days to give him our full support. The issue is one for the club to sort out in house.

Sadly I fear this may not be the case
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 04:58:03 PM
P O on twitter

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I am crazy haha adviser text saying don't tweet, it weakens our position. Doesn't weaken nothing ! When I want to do something, I Do it.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I succeeded in doing that. But it's not getting better.Before bigger disappointment comes one day I better leave on a good note.

I dont think anyone is buying into the fact that commitment is the real reason why he wants to leave.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Blowee on January 26, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
With QPR losing 4-0 at home to Milton Keynes I'd have thought they'll be most desperate to pay way over the odds. They've put a full side out too - maybe Rednap won't even be managing them next week!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 26, 2013, 05:07:28 PM
I know what you are saying Ruby Ruby, but Odemwingie was declaring his love until 2 weeks ago when QPR came in, he was happy to sign a new deal and then as short time ago as the summer just gone declared his love once again.

I wouldnt believe a word that comes out of his mouth, every window the speculation surrounds him, this time its real, as many have said myself included, if he is that desperate for the money and wants to go then so be it,  he has every right to want to leave but there are ways of doing it and also a thing called dignity and respect and with his actions he has shown none to the club and its fans and i hope in return that the Albion show him no respect either.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tegga on January 26, 2013, 05:08:37 PM
Met Pete in Sutton Coldfield today and asked him if he is going and his reply was "I hope so".  The reason is he wants regular first team football in his favourite position up front which he is not getting with us.  Steve asked if he could try out a few games in the wider position which he has done but he does not enjoy it.  It seems he is put out by our "loan player" playing in his position although he says he is good friends with Romelu.  He was unsure if he was going to QPR. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 26, 2013, 05:09:13 PM
Anybody still got that banner?! Let's just put ££££'s all over it and display it again if he doesn't leave. Don't wanna see him in a shirt again but if it happens make it as uncomfortable as possible for him! In an adverse way it'll probs make him motivated.

Having said all that I think it's quite clear he'll never be in a WBA shirt again
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 05:12:46 PM
I think we should hold on a second here. The guy is being strung up by the mob for speaking his mind. Is Peter a bit of a drama queen?...yes but then he always has been so nothing new there. Is he prone to a bit of self adulation and to be a bit difficult to understand? yes but this is often a trait common to highly competitive athletes in all sports. Ronnie O Sullivan for example.
Clearly he is unhappy about something but before we all write him off perhaps we (the club) should find out exactly what the problem is and whether there is a solution.
It worries me that the general assumption seems to be that he is some sort of callous money grabber when that may not be the case at all.
In my view we as supporters are of course entitled to have an opinion but should continue on match days to give him our full support. The issue is one for the club to sort out in house.

Sadly I fear this may not be the case

Problem is its behind closed door where he should be airing his grievances not on a social network site where thousands of his clubs followers will see every word and his comments declaring has love for the club have made it worse.

He's either got a screw loose or some bad advisors.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 05:19:18 PM
Problem is its behind closed door where he should be airing his grievances not on a social network site where thousands of his clubs followers will see every word and his comments declaring has love for the club have made it worse.

He's either got a screw loose or some bad advisors.
I've read more than once from different sources that Pete's agents haven't exactly helped him in the past , that said he is supposed to be an intelligent guy himself and nobody holds a gun to his head when these situations arrive.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 26, 2013, 05:21:16 PM
Injury prone and a bit of a nightmare off the pitch, good riddance if I'm honest. I've never been a massive fan, always thought he was criminally overrated by many of our fans who for some reason took him immediately to heart cause the fans at his previous club were nasty to him.

He's relatively useless on the wing and he isn't going to get a kick upfront with Lukaku playing how he is and when Long gets fit again, if we can get £4m for him then we should sell regardless of whether the player wants out or not. His outbursts this afternoon should surprise no one after all he is a modern footballer, never done a decent days work in his life.

Don't let it overshadow what has been so far, a decent-ish season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 26, 2013, 05:26:53 PM
 :(
I've read more than once from different sources that Pete's agents haven't exactly helped him in the past , that said he is supposed to be an intelligent guy himself and nobody holds a gun to his head when these situations arrive.

I think he has a screw loose AND bad advisors.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 26, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
I know what you are saying Ruby Ruby, but Odemwingie was declaring his love until 2 weeks ago when QPR came in, he was happy to sign a new deal and then as short time ago as the summer just gone declared his love once again.

I wouldnt believe a word that comes out of his mouth, every window the speculation surrounds him, this time its real, as many have said myself included, if he is that desperate for the money and wants to go then so be it,  he has every right to want to leave but there are ways of doing it and also a thing called dignity and respect and with his actions he has shown none to the club and its fans and i hope in return that the Albion show him no respect either.

I think it reflects his personality Albion. I sense he is the type of person that needs to feel as if he is making a key contribution and when he isnt rather than rolling up his sleeves as perhaps a Shane Long would do he is inclined to sulk. Look at Carlos Tevez for example. His stroppiness makes PO look like a choir boy but when he feels valued and more importantly happy in his environment then he is an outstanding footballer. I think ultimately Man City reflected on this and realised they wernt handling him the right way so addressed the issue. So far all I can see with Peter is that he on the face of it appears unhappy that he isnt contributing what he wants on the pitch. The fact that he is speaking out is just a sign of frustration from what I can see. I agree with you that he hasnt made himself look good on the face of it and there is a lot of Prima Donna in him but hopefully the club will try to talk to him to get right under the skin of the problem and see if they can resolve the issue. As for a move well if it is based purely on football matters you wouldnt sell right now because he is a key player. But every player has a price so if £4 or 5 million was tabled it might be the correct decision.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie004 on January 26, 2013, 05:33:18 PM
A few pages ago someone on here posted a video of the 2010/2011 season of Pete. He scored 15 goals that season and his love for the club and fans was genuine in his celebrations. Now, every goal in that video, what position was PO playing?... He was upfront, on the shoulder of the last defender. Thats where he is best and most lethal.

Now, I'm not going to point fingers at Clarke or any of the management staff here, however, you have to see the guys point. He is an out and out striker. He loves to score goals, and thats what the guy does best. Now, i can agree with most on here that he has a sulk every now and again and has been inconsistent this year. However, ask your self this, if someone brings in a 19yr old to do the same job you do, and have done pretty well so far (15 goals 10/11 season) wouldn't you be a little nervous and hurt? Now, is the right way to handle that business in the public media? No. However, we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes of our club. He may have had conversations with Clarke about his displeasure of playing out of position, and Clarke may be just sticking to his guns, as most managers do. Its no surprise to me that he handed in a transfer request. Im a wide player, and if i was asked to play RB for a few games i would in a heart beat. HOwever, if i was asked to do it and then never saw my position again and i was sitting the bench, or playing RB for the season after a "Loanee" came in, well its only human nature to be upset...

I do not agree with the way PO has handled this situation at all, however, in my job, if a 18/19yr old came in and was doing a decent job but not as well as i know i can do it and i was asked to take a secondary role after proving i am the man for the job... I can see where pete may be a little hurt. Also, this talk i see of how we saved him and gave him the chance of English football. Yes, i agree and no i don't at the same time. At some point someone would have noticed him out there, but it was albion who gave him the offer first, and again you can see his genuine thanks and love for the club in the video posted. If i was in charge he would be one of the first names on the team sheet every week, sulk or no sulk, he really can turn a game around with a moment of magic...

Thanks for everything Pete! If it wasn't for your 15 goals then we wouldnt be where we are now... IMO, your "debt" as most see it was repaid. If you want to play upfront then i bid you farewell, if Albion cant give you that...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
I think we should hold on a second here. The guy is being strung up by the mob for speaking his mind. Is Peter a bit of a drama queen?...yes but then he always has been so nothing new there. Is he prone to a bit of self adulation and to be a bit difficult to understand? yes but this is often a trait common to highly competitive athletes in all sports. Ronnie O Sullivan for example.
Clearly he is unhappy about something but before we all write him off perhaps we (the club) should find out exactly what the problem is and whether there is a solution.
It worries me that the general assumption seems to be that he is some sort of callous money grabber when that may not be the case at all.
In my view we as supporters are of course entitled to have an opinion but should continue on match days to give him our full support. The issue is one for the club to sort out in house.

Sadly I fear this may not be the case

If you start slagging off fans paying £40 quid a game there is only one way this is going to end.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 05:33:59 PM
I think it reflects his personality Albion. I sense he is the type of person that needs to feel as if he is making a key contribution and when he isnt rather than rolling up his sleeves as perhaps a Shane Long would do he is inclined to sulk. Look at Carlos Tevez for example. His stroppiness makes PO look like a choir boy but when he feels valued and more importantly happy in his environment then he is an outstanding footballer. I think ultimately Man City reflected on this and realised they wernt handling him the right way so addressed the issue. So far all I can see with Peter is that he on the face of it appears unhappy that he isnt contributing what he wants on the pitch. The fact that he is speaking out is just a sign of frustration from what I can see. I agree with you that he hasnt made himself look good on the face of it and there is a lot of Prima Donna in him but hopefully the club will try to talk to him to get right under the skin of the problem and see if they can resolve the issue. As for a move well if it is based purely on football matters you wouldnt sell right now because he is a key player. But every player has a price so if £4 or 5 million was tabled it might be the correct decision.

By far the two most balanced posts since the story broke Ruby, agree with every word although I'd be looking for double the fee you suggest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 26, 2013, 05:34:36 PM
Injury prone and a bit of a nightmare off the pitch, good riddance if I'm honest. I've never been a massive fan, always thought he was criminally overrated by many of our fans who for some reason took him immediately to heart cause the fans at his previous club were nasty to him.

He's relatively useless on the wing and he isn't going to get a kick upfront with Lukaku playing how he is and when Long gets fit again, if we can get £4m for him then we should sell regardless of whether the player wants out or not. His outbursts this afternoon should surprise no one after all he is a modern footballer, never done a decent days work in his life.

Don't let it overshadow what has been so far, a decent-ish season.



If it wasnt for Odemwingie`s goals then we wouldnt even be in the Premier League,
I dont want fans having sour grapes cause thats the sort of thing Villa fans do.
Everyone knows OW is acting like a spoilt brat at the moment but we all also know he`s short of a full deck.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 05:36:29 PM
You can defend his reasons but you cannot defend his actions.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on January 26, 2013, 05:38:05 PM
With QPR losing 4-0 at home to Milton Keynes I'd have thought they'll be most desperate to pay way over the odds. They've put a full side out too - maybe Rednap won't even be managing them next week!
well done mk are you watching are you watching are you watching odemwingie/some people dont know when they are well off pure greed ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
If you start slagging off fans paying £40 quid a game there is only one way this is going to end.

When has he done this? I'm not offended by anything Odemwingie has said or done here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: collins101 on January 26, 2013, 05:39:52 PM
I find the timing of this all to convenient for Mr Odemwingie, he's handed in a transfer request at the point in the month where we haven't got another game til after the window closes. I loved the bloke as player but as most people will say, no player is bigger than the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 05:41:02 PM
We play Wednesday, transfer window shuts Thursday...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 26, 2013, 05:42:25 PM


If it wasnt for Odemwingie`s goals then we wouldnt even be in the Premier League,
I dont want fans having sour grapes cause thats the sort of thing Villa fans do.
Everyone knows OW is acting like a spoilt brat at the moment but we all also know he`s short of a full deck.

So if we hadn't of signed him we would have automatically signed someone s**** and been relegated? Sound logic that.

I don't have sour grapes, I've never rated him as highly as many fans on or off this website. I've also never said he's no good, I just don't think he should he deserves to be idolised in the manner which he is by our fans based on performances and off the field conduct.

If you were to slate your employers and customers in a similar vein to what PO has done what do you think would happen? I see people on here saying he needs to feel valued and that he's making a big contribution. Christ, you'd expect that maybe from a class of primary school children not from a man of 31 with a family earning 40k a week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 26, 2013, 05:42:40 PM
Injury prone and a bit of a nightmare off the pitch, good riddance if I'm honest. I've never been a massive fan, always thought he was criminally overrated by many of our fans who for some reason took him immediately to heart cause the fans at his previous club were nasty to him.

He's relatively useless on the wing and he isn't going to get a kick upfront with Lukaku playing how he is and when Long gets fit again, if we can get £4m for him then we should sell regardless of whether the player wants out or not. His outbursts this afternoon should surprise no one after all he is a modern footballer, never done a decent days work in his life.

Don't let it overshadow what has been so far, a decent-ish season.

At times Odemwingie has looked good out wide, but not enough times to convinceme he can play there. I will be sad to see him go, but I would have been even more sadder if this was Long or Lakaku who was going.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2013, 05:43:09 PM
When has he done this? I'm not offended by anything Odemwingie has said or done here.

On twitter this afternoon mate. He has made his position untenable this afternoon by telling then fans they are the reason he wants to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
On twitter this afternoon mate. He has made his position untenable this afternoon by telling then fans they are the reason he wants to go.

Think you've read it wrong fella, he's slagging off the club while praising the supporters.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 26, 2013, 05:49:46 PM
You can defend his reasons but you cannot defend his actions.

Agreed. But the things he say can easily be combated with logic;

A) He wants to play in 'his normal position'. His normal position BEFORE us for both club and country was out wide, we played him where we did because he showed promise there. Ok he's played out of the position we gave him this year, but this is the first we're hearing of any grievances about position from him. Again a lot goes on behind the scenes, but if you're not happy don't talk sh*t on TV saying we're a club you love dearly.

B) He's scored three goals this season (again he's out of position, but that doesn't stop him coming forward, Lukaku heads out wide a lot, as does Long). He wont make any impact at QPR much like the rest of our 'leave for better things' players (Koumas, Kamara, Davies, Robinson, Thomas K, etc.) and with the squad they have he'll be back behind the likes of Zamora, Remy, Cisse (when he returns), Taraabt.

C) Do QPR even bl*ody want him? I've heard initial approaches, but Harry 'I don't like talking about other teams players, lets talk about them for half an hour' Redknapp hasn't shown his usual enthusiasm for this transfer. If Pete wants to play football, he's going to the wrong team. If he wants to play under a good manager, he's going to the wrong team.  I have no doubt someone from QPR has spoken to him this week, why else would he kick off now and not at the start of the window? Surely if he hated it here, he could have said so long ago.

IMO he's a very very stupid boy, despite the fact he MAY (I emphasize MAY) have other reasons for wanting to go, it doesn't add up. He's unhappy in his position, he's outspoken enough for us to have got wind of it before now. He wants a new challenge, he's had a relegation scrap with us before.

I hope, and I hate saying it about someone I've enjoyed watching play, but I hope he goes the same way as the other clowns who think they're better than this club. He's acted appallingly, and a nice wage cut and a reputation for being a fool will suit me fine.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 26, 2013, 05:50:53 PM
Think you've read it wrong fella, he's slagging off the club while praising the supporters.
Said fans questioned his commitment 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 26, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo

not sure if he means the club or fans?

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 26, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
On twitter this afternoon mate. He has made his position untenable this afternoon by telling then fans they are the reason he wants to go.

I don't think he slated fans I thought he said we were the reason he stayed. But he contradicted it by saying something about us doubting his commitment which didn't make that much sense, it kind of sounded like he was static that that's the reason fans are mad
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 26, 2013, 05:56:58 PM
 He is clearly mentally ill.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 05:59:54 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo

not sure if he means the club or fans?

It's how he speaks, means the club doubted his commitment. Was actually answering the fans who wanted to know the 'real reason'.

They being the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 26, 2013, 06:02:57 PM
It's how he speaks, means the club doubted his commitment. Was actually answering the fans who wanted to know the 'real reason'.

They being the club.

Or is that just the way your interpreting it.  Chris Lepkowski seems to think it is a dig at fans and is telling him to stop being silly!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: collins101 on January 26, 2013, 06:03:35 PM
Surely your natural instinct would be to prove the club was wrong to doubt his commitment and not to prove them right ?? Unusual fella
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 26, 2013, 06:04:10 PM
It sounded to me, and many news organisations, that he was slagging the fans off. States we doubted his commitment -  thats not the club he is talking about, it's the fans. He states "cant let go" as in he can foret that fact.
 
Most media reporting it as slagging the fans off, including Nigerian news agencies who understand his more colloquial slang and if they see it that way....

I dont think people saying "he isn't slagging of he fans" can really be that certain in their views if i'm honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 26, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
Met Pete in Sutton Coldfield today and asked him if he is going and his reply was "I hope so".  The reason is he wants regular first team football in his favourite position up front which he is not getting with us.  Steve asked if he could try out a few games in the wider position which he has done but he does not enjoy it.  It seems he is put out by our "loan player" playing in his position although he says he is good friends with Romelu.  He was unsure if he was going to QPR.
So he needs the extra money for spelling lessons because last time i used my spell checker there was no i in team! i would also be pretty sure that it was down to him umming and ahhhing in the August window that led us to bring in Lukaku in case HRO decided to leave late in the window as he has this time
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 26, 2013, 06:10:57 PM
He is clearly mentally ill.

In a 48 hours that have made me furious, this made me burst out laughing.

Maybe he'll fail his QPR medical because of it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie004 on January 26, 2013, 06:12:04 PM
So if we hadn't of signed him we would have automatically signed someone s**** and been relegated? Sound logic that.

I don't have sour grapes, I've never rated him as highly as many fans on or off this website. I've also never said he's no good, I just don't think he should he deserves to be idolised in the manner which he is by our fans based on performances and off the field conduct.

If you were to slate your employers and customers in a similar vein to what PO has done what do you think would happen? I see people on here saying he needs to feel valued and that he's making a big contribution. Christ, you'd expect that maybe from a class of primary school children not from a man of 31 with a family earning 40k a week.

Maybe, maybe not? However you look at it, it is what it is. Pete's 15 goals kept us up...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
We can go round and round in circles with his twitter rant (completely stupid thing to do just like Dozza's Mrs a few months back ;))......I've defended Pete again and again over the years and still rate him as a player but let's not be naive enough to believe any rubbish regarding his wide position , securing his future finance wise or playing regularly . He can tweet all day but the bottom line is he wants to go for the money despite the trouble QPR are in....nothing else so please Pete just stop talking rubbish and shut your mouth in public for a while .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 26, 2013, 06:18:48 PM
When has he done this? I'm not offended by anything Odemwingie has said or done here.

I think PO would have to commit a murder for you to say anything negative about him & then it'd probably be self defence.

There's leaving (I know he hasn't gone yet but its just a matter of time) a club & there's leaving a club whilst showing dignity & humility, Peter Odemwingie has been a fantastic player for us over the last few seasons, I've said it before that very often he plays for himself & is obviously a very self indulgent person, thats why I dont go along with his B******T statement, its all about £MONEY£ Pete just f*****g admit it & we can all move on.

Most fans get annoyed when their best players wan't to leave & many will hit out calling them greedy money grabbers etc, if they are seen to be disrespecting the club they are going to get pelters & rightly so.

   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 26, 2013, 06:23:40 PM
He's the new Curtis Davis. Get the **** out of our club. It's times like this when JP is really in his element - squeeze QPR dry, Jezza!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 26, 2013, 06:24:30 PM
I think PO would have to commit a murder for you to say anything negative about him & then it'd probably be self defence.

There's leaving (I know he hasn't gone yet but its just a matter of time) a club & there's leaving a club whilst showing dignity & humility, Peter Odemwingie has been a fantastic player for us over the last few seasons, I've said it before that very often he plays for himself & is obviously a very self indulgent person, thats why I dont go along with his B******T statement, its all about £MONEY£ Pete just f*****g admit it & we can all move on.

Most fans get annoyed when their best players wan't to leave & many will hit out calling them greedy money grabbers etc, if they are seen to be disrespecting the club they are going to get pelters & rightly so.

   

And in this case, in real-world terms, it's like an office worker resigning by taking a sh*t on everyones desk, booting over the photocopier, punching a cleaner then torching the car park. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut, sort this out behind the scenes, then go away.

He's the new Curtis Davis. Get the **** out of our club. It's times like this when JP is really in his element - squeeze QPR dry, Jezza!

Sadly, I don't think JP can work his magic here - I don't get the impression QPR want him enough to pay us the money we'd want. Though obviously someone appears to have talked to him, but could be so that they DON'T have to pay higher for him and can take a risk with him. Even a million more I can't see them paying, and the way Pete's acted he's done for here - leaving him idiot limbo if he doesn't go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: spencer Baggie on January 26, 2013, 06:25:26 PM
The harsh side of me thinks - keep him. Let him rot in the reserves, the greedy, whinging little fecker.

The businessman in me thinks, keep him until Jan 30th, then hike up the price on QPR on Jan 31st and make some money off him. (As long as we have a replacement of course)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 26, 2013, 06:30:10 PM
In a 48 hours that have made me furious, this made me burst out laughing.

Maybe he'll fail his QPR medical because of it.

If 'mental illness' was part of footballers failing medicals we wouldn't have half the transfers we do  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2013, 06:31:21 PM
I think PO would have to commit a murder for you to say anything negative about him & then it'd probably be self defence.

There's leaving (I know he hasn't gone yet but its just a matter of time) a club & there's leaving a club whilst showing dignity & humility, Peter Odemwingie has been a fantastic player for us over the last few seasons, I've said it before that very often he plays for himself & is obviously a very self indulgent person, thats why I dont go along with his B******T statement, its all about £MONEY£ Pete just f*****g admit it & we can all move on.

Most fans get annoyed when their best players wan't to leave & many will hit out calling them greedy money grabbers etc, if they are seen to be disrespecting the club they are going to get pelters & rightly so.

   

And in this case, in real-world terms, it's like an office worker resigning by taking a sh*t on everyones desk, booting over the photocopier, punching a cleaner then torching the car park. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut, sort this out behind the scenes, then go away.


Both these posts are massively over the top. Firstly football is so skewed from real life it cannot be talked about in those terms. Secondly, until Pete dies something seriously wrong, like a Bednar or Hoult then I'll continue backing him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Webby on January 26, 2013, 06:39:10 PM
I am reading Pete's tweets now. It's pretty simple. He said he wants to leave last year but the fans made him stay due to our support (he's not going to slag us off, he has some sense) and it's behind the scenes.

Somethings gone on behind closed doors/he's not happy at not being played up front every game, it's that simple. Also QPR pay massive wages obviously.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TLMS17 on January 26, 2013, 06:42:01 PM
I hope for pete's sake he isn't in the squad on Wednesday against Everton
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 26, 2013, 06:44:21 PM
Both these posts are massively over the top. Firstly football is so skewed from real life it cannot be talked about in those terms. Secondly, until Pete dies something seriously wrong, like a Bednar or Hoult then I'll continue backing him.

You've obviously not read his statement criticising the club then  :-\

As I said 'murder'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jsam on January 26, 2013, 06:44:31 PM
Great Albion goal scorers:
1. WG Richardson
2. Ronnie Allen
3. Derek Kevan
4.Jeff Astle
5. Tony Brown
6. Cyrille Regis
7. Bob Taylor

Tarrah, Odemwingie, you'll not be missed. And you can't hold a candle to any of the above.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 06:45:38 PM
Jacko , you and i have backed him probably more than most on here but it's time to pull heads out of the sand.
Odemwingie has crapped on us , Clarke , the club and his team mates .He was happy enough to sign his bumper contract yet first real sniff of a bigger offer and he is desperate to go.
The manner in which he has handled this situation over the last two days has been shocking and i generally hope he is fined the maximum possible amount from the club for his out bursts especially on Twitter today. He has really let himself and us down over this and to be coming out with rubbish reasons as to why he wants to leave shows what a weak person he is mentally and also just what a selfish tosser he is too.I'd give him 100% more credit if just kept quiet in public and did things in private but to try to show us up in this way has left a very sour taste with  me.The line on Twitter saying "I always get what i want" or words to that effect sums Pete up now for me.
Not as serious as Bednar or Hoult granted but awful behaviour in all fairness , lost my support as a person today.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 26, 2013, 06:54:23 PM
Maybe, maybe not? However you look at it, it is what it is. Pete's 15 goals kept us up...

Bit of a sweeping statement. Its like those stats MOTD produce saying 'United would be in X position without RVP's goals' people don't take into account the fact we could/would have probably signed someone else. On the topic of his goals, we gave him his big chance to play down the middle as he always wanted and never before got throughout his career.

Players have left us before for better money, yet have done so with class and dignity. Just look at the likes of Gera and Bob Taylor. The latter being an actual great Albion goalscorer. Odemwingie isn't fit to be mentioned on the same page as some of our true goalscoring greats.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 26, 2013, 06:55:41 PM
What I find disgusting is this  quote from him "and a chance to play under the stewardship of one of the most respected managers in the game (Harry Redknapp)."  What a joke he is.  He wont last long at QPR if he does indeed go. No coming back from this .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 07:03:05 PM
What I find disgusting is this  quote from him "and a chance to play under the stewardship of one of the most respected managers in the game (Harry Redknapp)."  What a joke he is.  He wont last long at QPR if he does indeed go. No coming back from this .
If he goes to QPR and they stay up does Odemwingie honestly think Redknapp won't be spending big on the likes of Defoe ? .Will Pete moan that he is out of position / on the bench then or will the huge wage make it ok ?.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 26, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
Or is that just the way your interpreting it.  Chris Lepkowski seems to think it is a dig at fans and is telling him to stop being silly!

I read it that Pete was praising the fans, and was having a go at the club for doubting his commitment. I think back to the time Roy comments/twitter photo and think he is referring to this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 07:11:51 PM
All of PO's storm in a tea cup reasons for wanting a transfer are such extreme luxury problems it's mind boggling PO seems to take them so seriously. The man earns more than £40k a week for playing football, but is unhappy he isn't selected in exactly the position he wants, plus he wants more money? And when we don't give it to him he throws his toys out the pram and craps on the fans and the club? And yes his tweets did both no spinning of that fact.

The man does indeed have issues.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie004 on January 26, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
Bit of a sweeping statement. Its like those stats MOTD produce saying 'United would be in X position without RVP's goals' people don't take into account the fact we could/would have probably signed someone else. On the topic of his goals, we gave him his big chance to play down the middle as he always wanted and never before got throughout his career.

Players have left us before for better money, yet have done so with class and dignity. Just look at the likes of Gera and Bob Taylor. The latter being an actual great Albion goalscorer. Odemwingie isn't fit to be mentioned on the same page as some of our true goalscoring greats.

Not really a sweeping statement when its fact... Sure we COULD have signed someone else, but thats hindsight.
However, i do not agree with the way he has handled it. Just like you said, Gera and Taylor left with dignity. Although, they were never put outside left/right and asked to play out of position on a constant basis...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 26, 2013, 07:12:16 PM
Surely your natural instinct would be to prove the club was wrong to doubt his commitment and not to prove them right ?? Unusual fella

I tweeted him something along those lines, if you feel like you've been treated badly by being accused of lacking commitment, you don't then go and show a lack of commitment by submitting a transfer request in response!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 26, 2013, 07:14:52 PM
I don't buy this 'out of position' rubbish. PO needs to get over himself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 26, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
It amuses me when footballers complain about being played out of position. Sorry, but when you sign a contract with the club, I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the contract that says you can only play in a certain position. You play where the manager plays you.

His celebration against Villa was pathetic. "ME! ME!" and pointing to himself. He's such a tool and I'm so glad everyone has finally agreed that he is a selfish twonk.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. We don't need that at our club. I really hope he never wears the stripes again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on January 26, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
the sooner he is out off our club the better, and if he needs a lift i will gladly take him to london myself!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: George47 on January 26, 2013, 07:35:44 PM
This merry go round has gone on long enough, every transfer window PO has tried to manipulate the club to get what he wants , either a move on big wages or a new contract on big wages. The guy is a mercenary pure and simple . he also happens to be a talented player and he will obviously move on now.
Lets put our trust in JP to make the best deal for the club and when PO does return lets give him the reception he deserves from a club who have made him and paid him handsomely over the past few years and a player who has so callously dragged our name through the mud for personal gain .
The comments from his fellow Nigerian international players and national manager sum up what people in the game think about him  !!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 26, 2013, 07:58:12 PM
Look at it this way:

He's outspoken, speaks to the media a lot (don't we know it, heard some right corkers off him in the past about transfer talk) and he waits until NOW to bring up he's unhappy out of position, and that he feels like he's not needed. Why this week? He could have said at the start of the window surely? And the change in tone after the Villa game (I love the club, transfers are for the club to sort out not me) shows someone's said something to him about money (surely some foul play?).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 26, 2013, 07:59:26 PM
I don't buy this 'out of position' rubbish. PO needs to get over himself.
One minute he is happy to play out wide then the next he isn't .Cash offers do that to people.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_liam on January 26, 2013, 08:12:58 PM
If he wants to go then let him, better players have come and gone in the past and we've progressed, no reason why we wont again. he tweeted something about, tweeting what he did wont harm his chances of a move. hmm, imagine, QPR realised what sort of character he is, decide to move onto other targets and the move doesnt happen, window shuts! where does that leave us/him? would you play him again this season? he certainly hasn't made it easy for people to want to see him on the pitch again has he...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 26, 2013, 08:14:11 PM
Every utterance from Odemwingie is self serving justification of the fact that he wants more money. The latest "they questioned my commitment" well the poor dear if I recall some of his half assed performances of the first half of last season I think the coach then had every reason to question his commitment.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 08:16:27 PM
I posted earlier with remarks along the lines of "sell him"! Upon reflection, there may be a whole other spin to be put on this situation. PO has been truly contemptuous, and shown a deep lack of respect for our beloved club. We're all aware just what a shrewd operator Jeremy Peace is and I can see many other scenarios unfolding. I would bet anyone on this forum that he is deeply looking into the legalities of this 'conflict of interests'; i.e, breach of contract, slander, illegal approaches, tapping up, misuse of social media.......the list could go on. There is an important moral point to make by WBA here.......PO is employed and has a boss to answer to, you accept that position every time a contact is signed. He can leave yes - but ONLY if Jez gets the money he wants - simple. I would even go as far to say that Jez could claw enough money back to put the out spoken bas***d in the reserves for the rest of the season and still get 3 mil + come the end. We have to show existing players as well as potential recruits that if you sign for WBA, you understand that we will look after you provided we're not fu**ed about. We do not want to set a precedent here and should all pull together to make an example of his conduct!

There is not problem with the draw of a huge 'pay day' 'if it happens'!.....but lets make him an example of how it shouldn't be done!

I say f**k him!! Treat him with the very same level of disdain...........P.s , I'm not bitter and I'm normally a hoot!!! ;D

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lonions on January 26, 2013, 08:38:17 PM
I wouldn't take Odemwingies decision to move to QPR too personally. He's just looking for one last pay day before his career ends. All he can see is a big signing on fee and a decent pay packet for 12 months. I think its totally irrelevant what team or league he's in.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LongBridge Baggie1 on January 26, 2013, 08:46:27 PM
I posted earlier with remarks along the lines of "sell him"! Upon reflection, there may be a whole other spin to be put on this situation. PO has been truly contemptuous, and shown a deep lack of respect for our beloved club. We're all aware just what a shrewd operator Jeremy Peace is and I can see many other scenarios unfolding. I would bet anyone on this forum that he is deeply looking into the legalities of this 'conflict of interests'; i.e, breach of contract, slander, illegal approaches, tapping up, misuse of social media.......the list could go on. There is an important moral point to make by WBA here.......PO is employed and has a boss to answer to, you accept that position every time a contact is signed. He can leave yes - but ONLY if Jez gets the money he wants - simple. I would even go as far to say that Jez could claw enough money back to put the out spoken bas***d in the reserves for the rest of the season and still get 3 mil + come the end. We have to show existing players as well as potential recruits that if you sign for WBA, you understand that we will look after you provided we're not fu**ed about. We do not want to set a precedent here and should all pull together to make an example of his conduct!

There is not problem with the draw of a huge 'pay day' 'if it happens'!.....but lets make him an example of how it shouldn't be done!

I say f**k him!! Treat him with the very same level of disdain...........P.s , I'm not bitter and I'm normally a hoot!!! ;D

Couldn't agree more with you. Hell, I wouldn't have cared if he'd just been honest and said QPR had offered me megabucks and it's too good to turn down. That statement is both hurtful and disingenuous to very people who pay his wages, us, the fans. I hope he goes now I really do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 08:50:13 PM
He won't admit to the money aspect as officialLy he's spoken to no one.

As soon as he admits to something like that the club would be taking him to court for breach of contract quicker than you can say money bags.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 08:53:36 PM
I wouldn't take Odemwingies decision to move to QPR too personally. He's just looking for one last pay day before his career ends. All he can see is a big signing on fee and a decent pay packet for 12 months. I think its totally irrelevant what team or league he's in.

If that's all he can see then what a stupid individual. He ply's his trade in the biggest league in the world under a global media microscope,  paid a pooh load of money, and doesn't have the intelligence to understand that he will be judged upon his actions and decisions. 'Pay Day' I fully accept and understand. Kicking off via social media sites and disrespecting fans who spend huge percentages of their incomes to follow and support him is a 'low blow'. He should have more class......I'm sad to say he lacks it in abundance!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stubba on January 26, 2013, 08:56:34 PM
He says the club questioned his commitment, well they are going to as every window we get this s--t from him!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LongBridge Baggie1 on January 26, 2013, 08:56:59 PM
I wouldn't take Odemwingies decision to move to QPR too personally. He's just looking for one last pay day before his career ends. All he can see is a big signing on fee and a decent pay packet for 12 months. I think its totally irrelevant what team or league he's in.
I haven't got a problem with "One last Payday" I've got a problem with how he's acted publicly with that statement. He made his name with us and after with what happened in Russia. We as fans have always treated him with respect. I don't ask for loyalty in the modern game there is none but I would like a bit of respect back. He's a total dick in my opinion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: valleybaggie on January 26, 2013, 09:08:44 PM
whatever happens now if the remarks he's made about our beloved club are true i a can't see the fans backing him as much have they've done in the past , even lukaka has shown better respect and he's only 19. long has been hauled off nearly every half time he's played and he hasn't moaned. i just wish po would come out and say he's going for the money . i'd sell him now and let's see where he ends up when qpr get relegated we only need players here who are totally commited to the club
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Umpshire Baggie on January 26, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
I can feel another Odemwingie Banner being Printed. But this this time not as nice as the first one. This guy is a prize idiot let him rot in the reserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 09:13:41 PM
whatever happens now if the remarks he's made about our beloved club are true i a can't see the fans backing him as much have they've done in the past , even lukaka has shown better respect and he's only 19. long has been hauled off nearly every half time he's played and he hasn't moaned. i just wish po would come out and say he's going for the money . i'd sell him now and let's see where he ends up when qpr get relegated we only need players here who are totally commited to the club

Lukaku handles himself impeccably and so far is an example to ALL young footballers. He's articulate, passionate and everyone can see he's working very hard to improve his game. At his a age he is a far higher calibre of person that PO could ever be. He really doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath! I also class Long in the same bracket.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 26, 2013, 09:31:32 PM
God this man is unbelievable every time I read something about him he comes out with more sh..e Let's just get rid . No more posts about him and give him the white hankie and turn our backs on him at next home game especially when he warms up . JP Garlick on behalf of all Albion fans Let Him Go so angry. >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 09:40:13 PM
He's off again on twitter. Just keeps digging himself a bigger hole now. Its sad really as he could have left in the summer and done it the right way. Then we could all say thanks for the memories and enjoy your last payday. But to act how he has has just made me despise the man.

Pete please leave asap so we can forget you asap as much as it pains me to say
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 09:45:18 PM
Surely someone from the club has been in contact with him to tell him to shut it.  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 26, 2013, 09:46:08 PM
Players come and players go but I’m really disappointed about this one.

How can he talk about lack of respect when his recent comments are exactly that?

Despite a number of major character flaws that seem to regularly surface from season to season, we tolerate his antics, particularly during the transfer windows, because at the end of the day, he is one of ours.

But this is not about the football, it’s about selfish greed, pure and simple.

Granted QPR have a decent chance of survival, but I do wonder whether he is really the type of character you need in the middle of a relegation scrap.

If he does go there, and they do survive, is he really going to be the major player for them next season that his ego thinks he is?

If he does go there, I hope and pray that they do go down (along with Villa, naturally) and will watch with interest whether he stays with them in the Championship.

Mental illness has been mentioned – but Odemwingie, Twitchy and QPR is insanity!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tequila Rich on January 26, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
i noticed he's tweeting again!

i went to reply but odemwingie has blocked me from following him on twitter after i tweeted him a few times that he needed to come out and tell the truth, have respect for the fans that supported him etc. admit its for financial gain, new family, great city etc gain not football reasons at all... haha quite funny really.

the truth must hurt....he's greedy, honour-less plonker

didnt even tell him what i really feel about him right now...c u next tuesday


let's sell him, and make them pay a good price, because they can afford it! then watch him screw them over when they go down!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 09:47:50 PM
Quote....."Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I am crazy haha adviser text saying don't tweet, it weakens our position. Doesn't weaken nothing ! When I want to do something, I Do it".

And f**k everyone else ?....You scumbag!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

If you don't want to know what's in my head why follow me then ? Unfollow please. Score u the best.Don't score - u bad. Where is the truth?


Not having a go at fans eh !!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
Right at least he has admitted it is for money, just tweeted this to one of our fans;

"give me one reason why I shouldn't love or be grateful to Albion fans ? There are none. There is a business part in football"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Surely someone from the club has been in contact with him to tell him to shut it.  ::)


I suspect the club are letting him dig his own grave here. Even his own advisers have told him to keep his mouth shut.

The longer he goes on the better west bromwich Albion football club will look.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tequila Rich on January 26, 2013, 09:52:03 PM
he's slating the fans too??...

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
If you don't want to know what's in my head why follow me then ? Unfollow please. Score u the best.Don't score - u bad. Where is the truth?

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
I can understand the reaction of few Albion fans on my desire to leave the club.Real reason? because they once doubted my commitment. Cantletgo


is it me or is he making out that we're another reason why he doesnt want to stay anymore???  after all we did when he came here?? #racism etc???



Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 09:52:50 PM
I just wonder how the other players feel about this. The likes of Reid, Foster, mulumbu, Thorne and the likes of kiely and the staff around WBA like Pat frost the kitman.

All the people I have mentioned show their love for the club on twitter daily. The atmosphere around the place will be tense when the hit training on monday.

Fly on the wall would be great to watch
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 09:53:59 PM
I just wonder how the other players feel about this. The likes of Reid, Foster, mulumbu, Thorne and the likes of kiely and the staff around WBA like Pat frost the kitman.

All the people I have mentioned show their love for the club on twitter daily. The atmosphere around the place will be tense when the hit training on monday.

Fly on the wall would be great to watch

Hopefully Popov will "have a word" as it were.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: heycreative on January 26, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
Dear Pete,
Please leave West Brom as soon as possible. Thanks for all you have over the last few years but you have proved it is time to move on.
With every statement and tweet you lose the respect of those WBA fans who have chanted your name and even bought a banner supporting you (with their own money - some dont earn 39k a week).
West Brom will move on and thanks to your recent behaviour, any legacy you had built at the club has been discredited.
Onwards and upwards West Brom, good luck Pete.
PS. Pete, Did you see the score this afternoon, maybe next year you can help the mighty Q.P.R beat the Dingles in the Champ
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 09:57:02 PM
I just wonder how the other players feel about this. The likes of Reid, Foster, mulumbu, Thorne and the likes of kiely and the staff around WBA like Pat frost the kitman.

All the people I have mentioned show their love for the club on twitter daily. The atmosphere around the place will be tense when the hit training on monday.

Fly on the wall would be great to watch

Pat frost has said the team are in tomorrow for training

@FrostPat: Day off today...training tomorrow.....ooooooh.....can't wait
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: heycreative on January 26, 2013, 09:58:18 PM
Noone tweet him, just unfollow
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 09:58:32 PM
Peter Odemwingie?@OdemwingieP

Russian people joke Happiness is not in money, but in the amount.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 09:59:38 PM
Pat frost has said the team are in tomorrow for training

@FrostPat: Day off today...training tomorrow.....ooooooh.....can't wait

Well even better A few snowballs may be thrown at him tomorrow (hopefully with rocks hidden inside)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 10:02:27 PM
Peter Odemwingie?@OdemwingieP

Russian people joke - ?? ? ??????? ???????, ? ? ?? ??????????. Happiness is not in money, but in the amount.

Roughly translated as I want money, give it to me and the more you give the more happy I will become

Embarrassing, sooner he goes the better
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 26, 2013, 10:03:17 PM
How anyone can defend him is beyond me. Yes he scored goals for us - but that's his job. There's no reason to commend him for doing what he's paid vast amounts to do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tequila Rich on January 26, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
what do we do if QPR dont up their bid to an acceptable offer??

we cant let him engineer a move, with him slagging club and fans etc, for such a small amount of money (2.5 million), we should be asking a club with their finances to double that!

i'd have him training on his own for starters...plus a fine for unprofessionalism
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 26, 2013, 10:06:07 PM
I hope we dig our heels in and make his life a misery and sell him at the last minute of the transfer window for about £5-6mil.
 
I do feel with every tweet he makes the fee goes up.  Jp is the master and he must be licking his lips at this.
 
Lets face it the player has gone.  Theres no chance he will wear the shirt again after todays episode.  Wouldnt surprise me if that slimey b*****d Redknapp has put him up to it to try and force a move.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 10:07:07 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Not everyone like every player. I seen recently how they booded few players. We use to this. Move on to next game. Error error error


And another pop at fans
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 10:08:07 PM
@stuward64: @OdemwingieP always respected what you did on the pitch. But QPR a progression? And twitter behaviour like an impetuous child. #growupwingie

@OdemwingieP: @stuward64 common men. Childish ? No. We just are not in agreement here. I respect my fans and want them to always know my reasons.

 ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 10:10:15 PM
It seems the club have completely ignored him so his next step is to get the fans to turn against him to try and force it even further.

He is well and truly taking the mickey now!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 26, 2013, 10:10:31 PM
lets hope he breaks a leg in training tomorrow
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
The bloke is showing himself up to be a complete and utter tool.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 26, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Thats right slag off the fans who welcomed him with open arms when he was enduring a personal hell at Lokomotiv.
 
I'm beginning to think the Lokomotiv fan who came on here had a point about him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
lets hope he breaks a leg in training tomorrow

Not really, we're stuck with him then
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 10:15:59 PM
It seems the club have completely ignored him so his next step is to get the fans to turn against him to try and force it even further.

He is well and truly taking the mickey now!

@richi_jones: @OdemwingieP i understand now what your doing your trying to get the fans against you to help them force you out

@OdemwingieP: @richi_jones that won't help me. because I asked few times before and always got same answer, so that's the only thing left to do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DorransSporran on January 26, 2013, 10:17:31 PM
To be honest i can see where he is coming from with his last tweet.  When the fans were booing brunty, do you think any player would enjoy that?  Maybe he wants to go before it happens to him as we all know he isnt playing quite to the standard we have expected of him. But there is still no excuse for his unprofessional behaviour.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 26, 2013, 10:18:24 PM
Having read through 11 pages on this thread today alone I decided to have a bit of R&R, so I did something I've never done before without a link from this forum, I went on villa talk to try to cheer myself up.

Well it was almost as good as a weekend in Magaluf, I reckon there will be a load of rope, razor blades & paracetamol sold in Aston & the surrounding areas tomorrow & we think we have it bad.

Back on topic, if we play hardball (& I certainly hope we do) & fat arry's band pull out of the transfer, what then? no self respecting Albion fan is going to welcome him back in the famous navy blue & white are they?, for me Pete's standing at the abyss (Tevez style) but I don't think he can pull himself back from this.

?? ???????? Peter Odemwingie! thanks for the memories, just a shame you showed such a lack of class, you could of been a legend :'(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 10:19:17 PM
From all his "riddle" like tweets this evening and replies. He is basically telling us what we wanted to hear. That it is for money.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
@VixensBIGMAN ok pal I remember you from your previous tweets. Your a good guy. I tell you what really happened. Offer came everybody knows

and just tweeted

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
@VixensBIGMAN I ask club what they think ? Answer - not now. Maybe summer. I ask- or is it tactics to get more money? Answer- we have enough

So basically offer has come pete asked can i leave. Club say not now maybe in the summer (fair point) as he should know how our club works with regards to january transfer window. He asks the club is it tactics to get more money they tell him no they have enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 10:19:59 PM
To be honest i can see where he is coming from with his last tweet.  When the fans were booing brunty, do you think any player would enjoy that?  Maybe he wants to go before it happens to him as we all know he isnt playing quite to the standard we have expected of him. But there is still no excuse for his unprofessional behaviour.

A very small minority booed Brunt so its a low blow to use that, its more embarrassing to see Albion fans on Twitter thinking its amusing to call Rosenberg Rosenberk, at least he wants to play for us unlike this greedy manipulative pillock
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 10:23:47 PM
From all his "riddle" like tweets this evening and replies. He is basically telling us what we wanted to hear. That it is for money.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
@VixensBIGMAN ok pal I remember you from your previous tweets. Your a good guy. I tell you what really happened. Offer came everybody knows

and just tweeted

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
@VixensBIGMAN I ask club what they think ? Answer - not now. Maybe summer. I ask- or is it tactics to get more money? Answer- we have enough

So basically offer has come pete asked can i leave. Club say not now maybe in the summer (fair point) as he should know how our club works with regards to january transfer window. He asks the club is it tactics to get more money they tell him no they have enough.

To add to that;

Peter Odemwingie?@OdemwingieP

@VixensBIGMAN now there is no prise for you. We need you. I say ok. What's the prise for summer ? We will tell you after the window closes.

I laugh and say. Then I have nothing in hand. Give me something to hold on to. Meanwhile I don't complain I ve not been happy

I say - I have served the club well and deserve at least to have a prise now so I can plan my probably last move in England
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 10:25:42 PM
On the plus side it's a fantastic opportunity for Rosenberg to prove a few people wrong :-)

I hope now that he joins QPR for £5 mill, gets relegated and kicks up a stink at QPR in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: saml30 on January 26, 2013, 10:27:19 PM
lets hope he breaks a leg in training tomorrow


Step forward Goran  ;D

or we can recall Jara so he can be of some use at last

Where's Scharner when you need him, can't help but think he would have had a 'word'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 10:27:42 PM
To add to that;

Peter Odemwingie?@OdemwingieP

@VixensBIGMAN now there is no prise for you. We need you. I say ok. What's the prise for summer ? We will tell you after the window closes.

I laugh and say. Then I have nothing in hand. Give me something to hold on to. Meanwhile I don't complain I ve not been happy

I say - I have served the club well and deserve at least to have a prise now so I can plan my probably last move in England

Finally the truth is coming out. If he came out and said all this in his first statement, then maybe the fans wouldn't have been as bad on him. But that hole is too big to get out of now im afraid pete
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 10:30:12 PM
Some more from him;

want to know incase they don't extend it in the summer. Don't want another summer window not knowing what will happen

because now I ll have to move my little son elsewhere. He needs his nice room prepared in advance and I prepare my wife's mind

because she is already attached to our new house and family here and so on. Already crying now. What will happen then ?

could be italy, Spain, Qatar, China, Russia, Turkey, America. Her parents will start crying their daughter going too far

 :-\ So he's moaning about having to move his family elsewhere, when it's his decision to want to move?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 26, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
Finally the truth is coming out. If he came out and said all this in his first statement, then maybe the fans wouldn't have been as bad on him. But that hole is too big to get out of now im afraid pete

or is it a tactical ploy to get people back onside ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: heycreative on January 26, 2013, 10:33:22 PM
Top tweet: "Remember when #WBA fans spent there hard earned money on a banner for @OdemwingieP ... he obviously doesn't"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 26, 2013, 10:33:50 PM
I feel pity for the man.

He clearly has mental problems.  :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 10:34:54 PM
To be honest i can see where he is coming from with his last tweet.  When the fans were booing brunty, do you think any player would enjoy that?  Maybe he wants to go before it happens to him as we all know he isnt playing quite to the standard we have expected of him. But there is still no excuse for his unprofessional behaviour.

Full respect, but that is a contender for shitest post of the day. A VERY small minority have been on Brunty's back in recent weeks and he has handled it superbly. Many professional footballers understand fans frustrations and I firmly believe that Brunty is his own worst critic. He has been a wonderful servant to our club........a class fellow.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 10:36:50 PM
Some more from him;

want to know incase they don't extend it in the summer. Don't want another summer window not knowing what will happen

because now I ll have to move my little son elsewhere. He needs his nice room prepared in advance and I prepare my wife's mind

because she is already attached to our new house and family here and so on. Already crying now. What will happen then ?

could be italy, Spain, Qatar, China, Russia, Turkey, America. Her parents will start crying their daughter going too far

 :-\ So he's moaning about having to move his family elsewhere, when it's his decision to want to move?

What he is saying now basically is at this moment in time he can make a final move in his career to QPR on big money. Which will kill two birds with 1 stone. He gets the last pay day and stays in england. If he has to wait until the summer then he could be off anywhere spain,italy etc which isnt what he wants because of his new english family.

He knows WBA will not extend his contract past 2014 as he will be 32. He would definatley not get any more money.

these are good reasons for a transfer request in my eyes and i cant blame him. But the manner he has done it and the lies in his statement have just put him down the road of being hated.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 26, 2013, 10:37:51 PM
anyone know what qpr fans think of this? surely they dont want a player like this?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 10:41:56 PM
anyone know what qpr fans think of this? surely they dont want a player like this?

After odemwingie's tweets today I think a few of them maybe a tad concerned  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 26, 2013, 10:42:54 PM
anyone know what qpr fans think of this? surely they dont want a player like this?
From what i can tell they are ok with it (they have enough like him) and know he's a good player.

They do know he's coming for the money though, more jokes about that than actually discussion about him!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
If anyone fancies translating his latest rants, would be appreciated.

also England don't believe after 30 plyers should get long contracts. One year contracts. Even great Lampard, Drogba,and so on

Pirlo didn't think so during the euro cup. Hahaha sent everyone msgs during the game vs England. Example at wba ? Scharner

so basically club told me - boy you go kill your self till may so people still think u good. Just 14 games son. U can do it !

so we make profit from the season. And also squeeze maximum on the transfer( because inside us we know u don't want to stay here)

after all I have contributed to the clubs success last two seasons I hoped to at least get a low prise. Answer- talk later

we promise in the summer we will not leave you on a last year. because we know what happens to players on last year. J. Thomas
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 26, 2013, 10:46:54 PM
anyone know what qpr fans think of this? surely they dont want a player like this?

They have a squad full of mercenaries so Odemwingie will fit it well with all of the egos.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 10:48:43 PM
If anyone fancies translating his latest rants, would be appreciated.

also England don't believe after 30 plyers should get long contracts. One year contracts. Even great Lampard, Drogba,and so on

Pirlo didn't think so during the euro cup. Hahaha sent everyone msgs during the game vs England. Example at wba ? Scharner

so basically club told me - boy you go kill your self till may so people still think u good. Just 14 games son. U can do it !

so we make profit from the season. And also squeeze maximum on the transfer( because inside us we know u don't want to stay here)

after all I have contributed to the clubs success last two seasons I hoped to at least get a low prise. Answer- talk later

we promise in the summer we will not leave you on a last year. because we know what happens to players on last year. J. Thomas

see my last post
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: karlos83 on January 26, 2013, 10:52:36 PM
He's basically saying he wants to go for security and that the Albion have no plans to extend his contarct past his current one due to his age i.e. Scharner! so he as asked to move because the bid has come in now and he'd rather go now and get his family sorted rather than be in limbo for the rest of the season!!!

Apparently the powers that be asked him to work his socks of for the team and they'd review in the summer he see's this as us trying to drive the price, where as he thinks he should be allowed to leave for next to nothing as a reward for what he's done for us!

Its getting a bit messy and its a real shame!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 26, 2013, 10:55:44 PM
If he has posted all that then i can see the club disciplining him.

Maybe they are giving him the rope to hang himself.

Reading between the lines,what sense i can make of his gibberish,even his agent has told him to shut it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on January 26, 2013, 10:57:05 PM
The last bit about wanting to stay in England I understand BUT he's not pulling the wool over my eyes with the sob story. Ben Foster exceeds as an example for all other pro footballers wanting to keep the family happy, he could have earnt mega bucks but wanted to stay local so chose us. If it wasnt anout money theres plently of clubs in the area he could drop down to if he wanted a more stable contract.
Shame Pete believes his own hype and thinks he's bigger than the club.. oh and ofcourse we want to make as much money out of it as possible that's what business is about odemwinger. Derr.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: karlos83 on January 26, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
He's just tweeted that the biggest compliment he's ever recieved in his career is a manager like Harry Redknapp wanting to spend money on him to help with 'Mission Impossible'!

States he wishes he'd handed in transfer request last Jan and was on his way to Ruben Kazan, we turned down Newcastle, Wigan, Fulham. Bet the Wo1ve5 wished he went last Jan!!  ;D

Surely us turning down all those bids should be the biggest compliment of his career!!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 10:59:24 PM
He's basically saying he wants to go for security and that the Albion have no plans to extend his contarct past his current one due to his age i.e. Scharner! so he as asked to move because the bid has come in now and he'd rather go now and get his family sorted rather than be in limbo for the rest of the season!!!

Apparently the powers that be asked him to work his socks of for the team and they'd review in the summer he see's this as us trying to drive the price, where as he thinks he should be allowed to leave for next to nothing as a reward for what he's done for us!

Its getting a bit messy and its a real shame!

If he came out with this at the beginning then he would not be in the position he is in now. He should of came out and said

 "I need security in my contract due to my age and offer has come in that supports me and my new family. I could not be happier with WBA for what they have done for my career and I wish them all the best for the future. I would appreciate it if that myself, the club and the fans can support and repect me through this hard decision"

If he said this I would suggest that the majority of people would say thank you pete for being honest and good luck to you and your new family

am i right?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 11:00:04 PM
@OdemwingieP: @VixensBIGMAN last season January window is when I should have handed in transfer request. Was one foot in Rubin Kazan - not for sale

@OdemwingieP: @VixensBIGMAN best compliment I have ever received in my carrier as a player. manager like HR spending to bring me for mission "impossible"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rolfestreet on January 26, 2013, 11:01:11 PM
I think the guy might be insane reading his tweets. The damage is done for me i don't want him anywhere near our club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 26, 2013, 11:01:21 PM
Lukaku handles himself impeccably and so far is an example to ALL young footballers. He's articulate, passionate and everyone can see he's working very hard to improve his game. At his a age he is a far higher calibre of person that PO could ever be. He really doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath! I also class Long in the same bracket.

Good points - Long and Lukaku have been model pros so far.

Pete is turning into a pantomime character just because he cannot get his own way - total lack of respect for us fans and the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 11:02:29 PM
He's basically saying he wants to go for security and that the Albion have no plans to extend his contarct past his current one due to his age i.e. Scharner! so he as asked to move because the bid has come in now and he'd rather go now and get his family sorted rather than be in limbo for the rest of the season!!!

Apparently the powers that be asked him to work his socks of for the team and they'd review in the summer he see's this as us trying to drive the price, where as he thinks he should be allowed to leave for next to nothing as a reward for what he's done for us!

Its getting a bit messy and its a real shame!

That all sounds very feasible and quite possible. Sadly I feel it's complete balls! He has personally stated, "when I want do do something, I do it"! ...............He has 'created' at every given opportunity (cash, contracts etc) and is clearly so self indulged, he takes his personal monetary issues into a whole new stratosphere with a blind disregard for the people that have supported him (club and fans).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 11:03:17 PM
@OdemwingieP: Before that window - Peter is hard to figure out. Doctor said pain in his head. Since he bought the Bentley we can't get anything outofhim

@OdemwingieP: Damage to my image was done. Few fans went cold on me. Thanks God almighty for the unforgettable hat trick !!!

@OdemwingieP: @IAmGershomGM rot in reserves my dear ? On 40 a week as you say ? Not wise for the club. But I am ready for anything. Principle.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2013, 11:05:59 PM
I guess from his POV this will work for him. He's completely made his position untenable at the club and probably annoyed a lot of the players as well, he know's we run a tight ship so we can't afford to keep him to not play him (although I imagine he'll be getting a maximum fine for these outbursts) so we'll pretty much have to sell him. It's pretty much a case of who blinks first between us and QPR, if they hold out till the end of deadline day they'll probably get him for 3m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 11:06:06 PM
Tweeted that he won't miss football but football will miss him. What a ****
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
I also find QPR's low bid quite suspicious, I suspect he's told them, or at least his agent, that they will kick up a fuss this end to get him as cheap as possible.

It makes no sense that they would offer 5m for Olsson which I think we'd all agree is a reasonable offer for a nearly 30 year old centre back, but then someone a year older with 30 goals in 80 games is only deemed worth 2m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 11:11:02 PM
What an ungreatful person he is:

@OdemwingieP: @Baggie_Russ @vixensbigman banana s in Russia are the same bananas here. One world order under satan maybe a good idea against idiots.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 26, 2013, 11:18:28 PM
What an ungreatful person he is:

@OdemwingieP: @Baggie_Russ @vixensbigman banana s in Russia are the same bananas here. One world order under satan maybe a good idea against idiots.

Well step right up Mr. Odemwingie, you're steadily shuffling your way to the front of the queue..........Is there now a tinge of religious pontification creeping into this desperate idiots tweets?!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: heycreative on January 26, 2013, 11:24:41 PM
Barton and Pete will be a top tweeting team at Q.P.R
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 11:26:45 PM
Well at least we wont have to pay him a month's wages if he does stay. Due to the fact he will get fined the minute he walks through the training room door.

He is mentioning club business and mentioning players and ex players names. I actually cant believe what im reading to be honest. This is all his reply up until he goes on about 2pac and mentioning song lyrics

ok pal I remember you from your previous tweets. Your a good guy. I tell you what really happened. Offer came everybody knows
I ask club what they think ? Answer - not now. Maybe summer. I ask- or is it tactics to get more money? Answer- we have enough
now there is no prise for you. We need you. I say ok. What's the prise for summer ? We will tell you after the window closes.
I laugh and say. Then I have nothing in hand. Give me something to hold on to. Meanwhile I don't complain I ve not been happy
I say - I have served the club well and deserve at least to have a prise now so I can plan my probably last move in England
want to know incase they don't extend it in the summer. Don't want another summer window not knowing what will happen
because now I ll have to move my little son elsewhere. He needs his nice room prepared in advance and I prepare my wife's mind
because she is already attached to our new house and family here and so on. Already crying now. What will happen then ?
could be italy, Spain, Qatar, China, Russia, Turkey, America. Her parents will start crying their daughter going too far
also England don't believe after 30 plyers should get long contracts. One year contracts. Even great Lampard, Drogba,and so on
Pirlo didn't think so during the euro cup. Hahaha sent everyone msgs during the game vs England. Example at wba ? Scharner
so basically club told me - boy you go kill your self till may so people still think u good. Just 14 games son. U can do it !
so we make profit from the season. And also squeeze maximum on the transfer( because inside us we know u don't want to stay here)
after all I have contributed to the clubs success last two seasons I hoped to at least get a low prise. Answer- talk later
we promise in the summer we will not leave you on a last year. because we know what happens to players on last year. J. Thomas
sorry bro if you not happy I mentioned your name.
if I am on the bench many games now what will happen next season ? Then it's really Dubai after for me. I still want EPL !!!
they gave me a proverb. It's not the size of the frog but the stone or something like that. Means who ll come for me
so they want to reduce what I will get from the move. I thought they had enough. Principle thing ? I am a strong head too
so because mr nice guy Pete said like eddy murphy in his performance ( hilarious) I think - head down leaving the office - Ok
so when I got home I looked in the mirror and said -you see your life ? Hahaha ok let me call my people.They said -what ?!!!
at 32 in summer size of the frog Or stone ? La ila . As ukwa said - me that have paid tax in advance with 30 EPL goals ?
best compliment I have ever received in my carrier as a player. manager like HR spending to bring me for mission "impossible"
last season January window is when I should have handed in transfer request. Was one foot in Rubin Kazan - not for sale
Fulham . Not for sale. Newcastle. Not for sale. Wigan.not for sale. How can we let Aladin go hahaha
Before that window - Peter is hard to figure out. Doctor said pain in his head. Since he bought the Bentley we can't get anything outofhim
Damage to my image was done. Few fans went cold on me. Thanks God almighty for the unforgettable hat trick !!!
I won't miss football. Football will miss me. Hahaha
rot in reserves my dear ? On 40 a week as you say ? Not wise for the club. But I am ready for anything. Principle.
enough for today. Let me go and poor a Guinness into my system. Home alone today so could tweet. Home alone- like that naughty boy in film
Loyalty left 70 percent . the rest they stole out of my pocket thinking I was keeping money in there. Good night.


the guy has lost it!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: heycreative on January 26, 2013, 11:29:46 PM
didnt he say he was going to stop about 10 tweets ago...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
didnt he say he was going to stop about 10 tweets ago...

He is still going now after apparently having a Guinness  ??? If he keeps going I might have to post the 2nd chapter and if he goes on all night. We could have a book release by morning!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 26, 2013, 11:34:25 PM
He's drunk.


 ?@OdemwingieP

enough for today. Let me go and poor a Guinness into my system. Home alone today so could tweet. Home alone- like that naughty boy in film
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on January 26, 2013, 11:36:38 PM
Never would have taken him for a Guinness bloke. Colour me surprised.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 26, 2013, 11:37:38 PM
Just tweeted this to a Wigan fan. Veiled dig at Roy/Clarke maybe...

"your manager wants me till today because knows what I can do because he knows football well. Top man he is !"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 11:38:26 PM
I take it he isn't in training tomorrow with the rest of the squad then?  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 26, 2013, 11:39:03 PM
The guy is a joke, i hope we keep saying no unyltil his head explodes.

If i walere qpr i would run a mile.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 11:40:03 PM
The guy is a joke, i hope we keep saying no unyltil his head explodes.

If i walere qpr i would run a mile.

Sadly at this moment they're too desperate to care.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 26, 2013, 11:47:27 PM
Just tweeted this to a Wigan fan. Veiled dig at Roy/Clarke maybe...

"your manager wants me till today because knows what I can do because he knows football well. Top man he is !"

wigan? wow that is a big club that odemwingie could have gone to  :D

this has been amazing tonight, what a totally bizzare night from Odemwingie, he is well and truely stuffed if nobody signs him now and he is at the Albion on Feb 1st
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gwainge on January 26, 2013, 11:51:00 PM
Is this guy for real, one word.     twit
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 26, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
Is he having some kind of breakdown?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 26, 2013, 11:52:23 PM
when he does go to QPR does anyone know roughly how much the wage will go up by?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 26, 2013, 11:57:44 PM
just seen this on twitter and made me laugh

Just heard Gazza has turned up at Peter Odemwingies house with a fishing rod, bucket of chicken and a crate of Guinness.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 26, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
just seen this on twitter and made me laugh

Just heard Gazza has turned up at Peter Odemwingies house with a fishing rod, bucket of chicken and a crate of Guinness.

haha stole that  ;D

seriously, at times like this, Albion fans really come out on top with banter
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nocky on January 27, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
Can't quite believe what I'm reading tbh. The guy has absolutely lost the plot. The sad thing is, it's probably going to work. How can we possibly keep him around the squad given how this has now progressed?! # muppet
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 27, 2013, 12:02:00 AM
What a twonk Odemwhinger is! I hope the Club fines him heavily for his twitter outbursts. He is obviously a person with more money than sense.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boot2006 on January 27, 2013, 12:03:18 AM
what a wally, talk about burning bridges!

From his tweeting he seems like he lacks confidence and is insecure.  Crikey, if I was on £40k a week I would be ready to take on the world.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 27, 2013, 12:09:39 AM
just seen this on twitter and made me laugh

Just heard Gazza has turned up at Peter Odemwingies house with a fishing rod, bucket of chicken and a crate of Guinness.

Odemwinge has stated "didn't think I'd  like fishing, but now hooked!! He also stated " I only like chicken fillets as they have no backbone"! Wonder what this prat will be drinking when he runs out of Guinness, suppose he'll get on the cheeky vimto's ! Bets on him being more inebriated than Roger Johnson at training please!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 27, 2013, 12:10:00 AM
For some reason he seems shocked by backlash he has received from Albion fans regarding the statement from Friday night.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on January 27, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
What a twonk Odemwhinger is! I hope the Club fines him heavily for his twitter outbursts. He is obviously a person with more money than sense.

I don't think he is bothered about the fine as he won't be there on Thursday anyway
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 27, 2013, 12:19:43 AM
Whilst many (rightly) are angry and wishing all manor of things to happen, he is still our player, we are still playing him and even though tonight has been almost comedic all these tweets may serve to remind any prospective purchaser that he may be a risk they don't want to take.
Personally I think it's best if we don't hold out too long just to prove a point, my fear is buyers will run off and we get left with a player alienated from fans, teammates and club hierarchy .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on January 27, 2013, 12:25:36 AM
Goodbye and good luck with your future career Mr Odemwingie.
We've have plenty of memories and thank you for all you have helped this club achieve in the short time you have been here.
Unfortunately the grass is never greener and I feel sorry you will find this out and have to look back on what could have been with a little integrity and committment towards your current employers.
You could have been a legend with these supporters but you have now become a joke.
When your career ends.. and it will sooner than you want it to... I hope you can learn that respect has to be earned in any position in life.
You have no respect here so move on and don't look back because we don't want you either.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 27, 2013, 12:29:42 AM
This is a mess but QPR will bail him out with an improved offer and he knows it, the club will probably conclude that he is more trouble than he is worth and cut a deal by Thursday tea time. Did not want to lose him and it is a pity that his time at the club has ended on such a sour note but I will now be glad to see the back of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Marcus on January 27, 2013, 12:39:27 AM
I'm going to try and take off my wba tinted specs for a moment and try and rationalise all this in my own head ,because it's all a right dogs breakfast.

I do actually think he feels something for the club and the fans. He has been worried that he's going to be left out in the cold because of his age and the fact that SL and RL are ahead oh him in the 1 striker role, hence he mentions PS. He tries to seek assurance from the club about his longer term future with the club, which the club wont give (understandably). He wants to stay in this country because of his new family. Gets an offer of more money to stay in the UK for the next couple of seasons to finish off his career and make life "more" comfortable for his family.

Comes out with comments to try an expedite a move ( bad advice from his representatives), and it goes tits up.

Tries to explain and justify things on twitter.... makes it worse.

I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for the guy, if all he is saying is true. At the end of the day it's just his job. This means he wants the best for his future and his new family.

Don't get me wrong it could of been done SO much more professionally but we are talking about footballers and dumb ass advisors here. It still feels like I've come home to find him in bed with the missus and to then find out he's been doing my sister on the side, but rationally it's just a job. WE are the ones with the emotional attachment. Not the players.

Let him go with our good will (Let's be the bigger men) and thank him for what he has done.

I just hope this whole sorry scenario will make some of the brunt, rosenburg & jt boo boys have a long hard look at themselves.

Pete..... Shut the **** up you'e only making it worse. Be honest (which I think he is finally starting to be) go to QPR and thanks for the good times.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 27, 2013, 12:53:35 AM
Wow been out all night and got home to about 5 pages of madness has Pete lost it?! I'm starting to feel sorry for him! The poster above me makes a lot of sense. I'm interested to see what happens tomorrow, and with a long train journey planned I'll have nothing better to do but constantly refresh twitter!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 27, 2013, 01:04:00 AM
Why would anyone leave Albion for shitty, smaller QPR? Can only be money. If you want to go there Pete f**k off you are everything that is bad about the modern footballer.

Guys, he ain't that great, treat him with the contempt he's shown us. It's HIS choice to take a backward step. Thick c**t.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 01:05:22 AM
No sympathy for me at all.

Player on £40k a week sulking and being disrespectful to his employers and fans to try and force a move away, complaining that the club are making a profit so they can afford to let him go on the cheap, brings other players into it (Scharner, Thomas). Says the club have let him down ?? that's the same club that have given him a nice pay rise, a nice longer contract and rescued him from the hole he was in in Russia, the same club that having made previous profits were able to sign him and then give him a new deal.

I guess Graham Dorrans wants the best for his family and to secure his future financially as well, is he acting like a spoilt attention-seeking brat ?

If Pete is so unhappy then it should stay behind closed doors and he should be letting others get on with sorting a move instead of alienating himself from everyone, fans, officials and teammates.

We were warned to expect this when he signed for us by fans of his old club and we all laughed them off saying they were just bitter and resentful.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 27, 2013, 01:09:46 AM
I was being Tongue in cheek about feeling sorry for him, he must have the worst self esteem. The bentley comment is the worst. He's lost the plot. We took the nick out of wolves on the #headsgone moment but this p*sses all over that!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion07 on January 27, 2013, 01:13:22 AM
To be honest it's getting geniuinely bizzare now - Seems like he is very mentally unstable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 27, 2013, 01:14:25 AM
I was being Tongue in cheek about feeling sorry for him, he must have the worst self esteem. The bentley comment is the worst. He's lost the plot. We took the nick out of wolves on the #headsgone moment but this p*sses all over that!

they still go on about the #headsgone moment on talksh*te now. What will they make of this!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 27, 2013, 01:17:11 AM
To be honest it's getting geniuinely bizzare now - Seems like he is very mentally unstable.


He is. He's uneducated as well as he clearly doesn't understand the double negative in the English language.  I can't stand shallow to**ers like him. Just naughty word him off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bangkokbaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:20:54 AM
Quite amazing this constant stream of tweets. Either the guy is mentally unstable or engineering a move on the terms he wants or a combination of both.

Not sure how the club can best handle this but it seems inevitable that he won't be playing again for the first team should he remain until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 27, 2013, 01:23:05 AM
I didn't realise he was tweeting till just an hour ago they're even more cryptic and nonsensical and daresay drunken?!? Tomorrow is going to be very interesting but this is beyond ridiculous now!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 27, 2013, 02:28:35 AM
If he's still with us next week I hope the club come down on him like a ton of bricks. I also hope he never pulls on an Albion shirt again. Not even the reserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 27, 2013, 02:42:37 AM
I'm more concerned about what this means for SC's squad. Sure we can cash in, but I would rather have the money out on the pitch rather than in the bank, i.e. I'd be reluctant to sell without a replacement in place. A part- exchange might be one way, but the player we got back would probably not be  a forward of equivalent quality. However, if we could force QPR to allow Taarabt to move, he would add quality to the squad.
On the subject of QPR, I wonder what Pete makes of them being knocked out of the Cup by MK. Remember MK are 2 divisions lower. The other thing is that one of the first things Harry said when joining QPR is that he wanted players who really gave their guts for the club. Made an example of Boswinga. And then he let Cisse go out on loan to some Middle East club basically because he didn't put a shift in. So what does he know about Pete's attitude and commitment levels. I also remember Harry saying how could a club (like QPR) pay top wages when they had a ground capacity  of only 18,000. It sounds like he just makes it up as he goes along.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 27, 2013, 02:51:03 AM
Does the club offer a suicide watch? The guys obviously unstable. A couple of weeks playing for the vile may bring him to his senses though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 27, 2013, 03:19:43 AM
Touch wood he's on bench for spurs game. I've got some Monopoly money to throw at his ignorant greedy face.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BaggieSean on January 27, 2013, 04:31:25 AM
If QPR do go down, then the consequences will be close to catastrophic. Their wage-bill will need some serious trimming (see what Villa are going through at the moment); players such as Julio Cesar, Jose Bosingwa, Stephane M'Bia, and now obviously Odemwingie are likely to be on seriously big deals which won't necessarily have relegation clauses. Majority of players would probably need to be sold for cut-price deals, the ones that stay wouldn't be too chuffed about having to play in the dogfight that is the Championship and generally the whole bubble around QPR would be burst in dramatic style as they are spending a massive amount more than they are actually getting into the club, basically if you want to see the results of that see Portsmouth and to a lesser extent Rangers.

Redknapp's reputation of leaving a trail of clubs in a financial turmoil and having football club owners and chairmen pull their pants down for him isn't unfounded, as the fans of the Bournemouths,  Portsmouths, Southamptons and even West Hams of this world will tell you bluntly, so Peter, good luck to you mate, and for YOUR sake I hope you stay up, because if QPR go down, you'll regret it in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on January 27, 2013, 06:09:58 AM
I honestly think gents he is a disgrace. We bought him from nowhere and this how he repays us . Greed is all it is . Never mind he wants the best for his family . He is probably a millionaire I am with Jeremy peace on this one . He has trashed the club. Let him rot and I hope he never pulls on a shirt again .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on January 27, 2013, 06:44:07 AM
Disgraceful, just read all the other tweets. What an absolute selfish and ungrateful person he is, has done himself no favours for a move anywhere, his career is on a downward spiral and with that attitude I can't say I really care less. Looking forward to hearing what the club have to say about all this and also the FA.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gwainge on January 27, 2013, 07:25:28 AM
I'm going to try and take off my wba tinted specs for a moment and try and rationalise all this in my own head ,because it's all a right dogs breakfast.

I do actually think he feels something for the club and the fans. He has been worried that he's going to be left out in the cold because of his age and the fact that SL and RL are ahead oh him in the 1 striker role, hence he mentions PS. He tries to seek assurance from the club about his longer term future with the club, which the club wont give (understandably). He wants to stay in this country because of his new family. Gets an offer of more money to stay in the UK for the next couple of seasons to finish off his career and make life "more" comfortable for his family.

Comes out with comments to try an expedite a move ( bad advice from his representatives), and it goes tits up.

Tries to explain and justify things on twitter.... makes it worse.

I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for the guy, if all he is saying is true. At the end of the day it's just his job. This means he wants the best for his future and his new family.

Don't get me wrong it could of been done SO much more professionally but we are talking about footballers and dumb ass advisors here. It still feels like I've come home to find him in bed with the missus and to then find out he's been doing my sister on the side, but rationally it's just a job. WE are the ones with the emotional attachment. Not the players.

Let him go with our good will (Let's be the bigger men) and thank him for what he has done.

I just hope this whole sorry scenario will make some of the brunt, rosenburg & jt boo boys have a long hard look at themselves.

Pete..... Shut the **** up you'e only making it worse. Be honest (which I think he is finally starting to be) go to QPR and thanks for the good times.

Great post
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 27, 2013, 08:12:38 AM
His twitter rumblings don't really make that much sense to me. Going on his tweets late last night it seems he's pretty much wanted out in every window despite signing a new deal when he did. However he also seems to imply that the reason he's been like that is because he didn't think we would offer him a long term deal in the near future, again that makes no real sense as it was him that wanted to sign a shorter contract than he actually did with us it was the club that wanted the initial longer deal.

I've come to the conclusion he didn't expect the backlash off fans that he got after his pathetic statement and he's trying to justify himself but made things ten times worse.

Enjoy your last big pay cheque Peter as the club that you go to wont have a fan base where the majority worshipped you, it's a shame you had to tarnish your reputation for greed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hulsey74 on January 27, 2013, 08:41:24 AM
I am so disappointed, but not surprised, he was  favourite player by a county mile, but what this highlights (and we all knew really) there is no loyalty these days from the football clubs nor players.
I understand to a point why he wishes to leave (financial - although we ordinary paid folk struggle to understand as we cannot compare 300 per week to 39k per week) but there is a way of doing this, and PO is not doing this...... However, as he points out, you are only loved for your last goal and if someone else better comes along and starts scoring, you are no longer wanted. There's a bloke who sits behind me, and every game he slags off PO, i have posted before that the guy is our best player and we will not realise what we have until he leaves, well we'll see now :) Its a real shame this didn't get sorted earlier, as i really think Chris Wood could have been given his opportunity here.

Pete, thanks for the goals, and thanks for reminding me how fickle footballers, fans and clubs are. But please be quiet now, and show the same class you have as a player in who you are as a person, as at the momemt you are acting like a right TWA*
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tipton Baggie on January 27, 2013, 09:08:33 AM
He's either had a breakdown or his accounts been hacked
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 27, 2013, 09:37:03 AM
He's either had a breakdown or his accounts been hacked

Very clever hacker if so. Sounded like Pete. I wonder if he'll claim that? 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 27, 2013, 09:40:07 AM
Well after reading all of those tweets I wont be too concerned about him leaving.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on January 27, 2013, 09:46:20 AM
So how does everyone see this panning out?

I think QPR will be very clever now. They will let the dust settle for a few days then probably come back with a 3 million 'take it or leave it' offer on deadline day. It's not the figure we want but what do the club do?

I can't see any way that he can play for the club again and theres no way we can have 40k per week worth of wages training with the youth team.

Can't see anyone else wanting him after his outburst so this could get very messy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 09:51:14 AM
If we want to have him play for us again we will have to check him in at some clinic for a few weeks and say PO had a mental breakdown, put some pills in him and have a doctor give a diagnosis.

The fool doesn't realize that he is burning his bridges not only with us, but with all clubs in England. Who would possibly want a disturbed tosser like him around?

It's not only WBA fans that are watching this mental implosion with fascinated disgust.

For QPR to accept him after this shows the real depth of their desperation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 09:54:42 AM
So how does everyone see this panning out?

I think QPR will be very clever now. They will let the dust settle for a few days then probably come back with a 3 million 'take it or leave it' offer on deadline day. It's not the figure we want but what do the club do?

I can't see any way that he can play for the club again and theres no way we can have 40k per week worth of wages training with the youth team.

Can't see anyone else wanting him after his outburst so this could get very messy.

The Olde 'damaged goods ploy' eh?

I think I'd do what I suggested above. Have some mental health experts check up on PO. Then quietly let him go in the summer. Some Turkish/Quatari/etc club will pay the same amount of a QPR lowball offer anyway. If the doctors find him sane, just fine PO for the wages this spring.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gavinrussell on January 27, 2013, 09:57:31 AM
Have been reading PO`s Twitter comments over the last few days.....either he is very good at pretending to have problems or as i think, he really does have problems......needs to switch his phone off , seek some serious counselling , listen to his head and heart and tell that greedy a**e of an agent to do one.....

Look at QPR yesterday, shocking team shocking performance, Rednap has no coaching skills and shouldnt be mentioned in the same breathe as ROY....

He is pimping around Europe to try and get a few players to survive...PO will be one of them and binned when the time is right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 27, 2013, 10:11:37 AM
#burnthebanner.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 27, 2013, 10:15:53 AM
#burnthebanner.

Not sure if it's still in my flat that Mart had? If so I will burn it!!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 27, 2013, 10:19:05 AM
Good luck!

Click Here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MATCH-WORN-ISSUED-PETER-ODEMWINGIE-WBA-SHIRT-FROM-A-KNOWN-FIXTURE-/321062511483?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 27, 2013, 10:20:46 AM
So how does everyone see this panning out?

I think QPR will be very clever now. They will let the dust settle for a few days then probably come back with a 3 million 'take it or leave it' offer on deadline day. It's not the figure we want but what do the club do?

I can't see any way that he can play for the club again and theres no way we can have 40k per week worth of wages training with the youth team.

Can't see anyone else wanting him after his outburst so this could get very messy.

i would let him train by himself and get shot of him in the summer.
We would get 3million for him then so as far as QPR are concerned they can do one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 10:21:09 AM
We gave a couple of quid to get a banner. Big deal. I think he's repaid us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 27, 2013, 10:22:52 AM
We gave a couple of quid to get a banner. Big deal. I think he's repaid us.
We give him 40K a week, I think he owes us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
We give him 40K a week, I think he owes us.

40K a week for a top prem player is peanuts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 27, 2013, 10:26:59 AM
If we want to have him play for us again we will have to check him in at some clinic for a few weeks and say PO had a mental breakdown, put some pills in him and have a doctor give a diagnosis.

The fool doesn't realize that he is burning his bridges not only with us, but with all clubs in England. Who would possibly want a disturbed tosser like him around?

It's not only WBA fans that are watching this mental implosion with fascinated disgust.

For QPR to accept him after this shows the real depth of their desperation.

Exactly my thoughts clubs buy a player based on his character as much as his skill and this bloke needs sectioning.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 27, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
40K a week for a top prem player is peanuts.
Ok then lets forgive him.  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Merbals on January 27, 2013, 10:29:06 AM
Got up this morning to find my 12 yo son had put his shirt carrying the tossers name in the bin!

His exact word were "Dad he never deserves to wear an Albion shirt ever again! Wish I I knew where he lived I would cycle there and give it him myself!"

I am totally and utterly disgusted by the whole thing and hope the club do everything in their power to make a stance!  Forget money this is principle that the club have to make a stance! Not just for us but for all football supporters and show that no player is above any club and its fans!

We always conduct our business in the right way and have confidence the club will do the same!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 10:35:05 AM
The game went a long time ago. You can either accept it for what it is or you get yourself worked up about everything.

I'm a fan of the club; I just want to see us compete and do well. If we have to put up with Pete and alike so be it. If we were to have perfect morals we wouldn't be able to take part in this division.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 27, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
Seeing the post on Monopoly has made me think. Why doesn't everyone wave Monopoly money at the next game? Would be better than booing him and would be a bit tongue in cheek (the club doesn't have real money to spend lol)  :-*

As a side note -
I'm aware we're by no means a poor club, but this month we've only sold and loaned players out and brought in nothing, a few injuries and we'll be screwed.

Back to Pete, even if he does go this window, I can't see us replacing him yet. It will more than likely be in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
I think JP should take a tough stance here to make a stand on player contracts.  Otherwise Odemwingie has just demonstrated to everyone in football how to override a contract.

Tell QPR and anyone else who is interested, the price is £5m.  Not a penny less.  If its not met, then he stays and we sell him in the summer if somebody meets our price.

If nobody buys him in January, then he is ordered to train, knuckle down and try to perform so that he earns a move in the summer.  Yes, that means he has to face the fans now and eat humble pie.  His problem - he made his bed so he can lie in it.  If he refuses to knuckle down then he gets fined again and again.  So we either get a player who is working towards a proper exit in the summer, or we get a player who doesn't play but who doesn't cost us anything like £40k a week as its offset by those fines.  A win-win situation.

I think he is now badly damaged goods.  His actions will have put off many buyers in this country. He will now be forced abroad unless an idiot like Redknapp will pay up.

It's time that common sense prevailed in football.  Our club is built on solid prudent principles and we should take a stand to bring some much-needed sanity back to football. The stage is perfectly set for JP to play a blinder....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 27, 2013, 10:50:19 AM
or is it a tactical ploy to get people back onside ?
If he doesn't go no doubt he will be tweeting how much he loves Cadbury's World , The Bull Ring and New Street Station. ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: karlos83 on January 27, 2013, 11:02:02 AM
As a player and for what he has done for us including goals against Wo1ve5 and Villa, i love Peter Odemwingie. However since friday at around 4:30pm the guy as really gone down hill quicker than the Villa!!

My opinion is the club need to make a stance on this one and dig their heels in (unless we get over the top money). I think if we cave (which i dont think we will) then it will set a presidence for players engineering a move away from us! We cant be seen to be a soft touch and i'm sure JP will feel th same.

The guy simply cant play for the club again, end of. So unless a big bid comes in make him sit tight, take a hit on his wages (we have budgeted for them already so no real additional cost) and cash in, in the summer at which point i'd just let him go to the highest bidder if there are any!

His outburst as shown himself up not only to fans at our club but across the world, hes made his bed..........

As for the Albion onwards and upwards! BOINGBOING
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 27, 2013, 11:02:19 AM
I think we should keep him until the summer too.

Not playing him shouldn't make a lot of difference,we have enough points to be safe.
Why get shut of him which is what he is hoping we will do?

Lets keep him and amuse ourselves at his rants,and he can prove to the football world what a plonker he is.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 27, 2013, 11:05:18 AM
I'd like to see him on the bench and bought on in a game thats already won, just so the fans can let him know how we feel about him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 27, 2013, 11:06:52 AM
We gave a couple of quid to get a banner. Big deal. I think he's repaid us.

So we deserve to be treated like this? Come on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
So we deserve to be treated like this? Come on.

I see a disturbed mind ranting and raving. Why get upset?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 27, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
Twitter is a very dangerous vehicle in footballers and fans hands, neither are equipped to deal with anything other than a world without any problems or emotions, as such a world does not exist, twitter should be eradicated.

It just allows those with written diarrhea to discharge in public.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 27, 2013, 11:20:04 AM
If I was given 40k a week to spend most of my time injured then I think I'd end up going insane as well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 27, 2013, 11:20:59 AM
After 24 hours where i was very angry with the situation, i now find it quite amusing.

I have never witnessed such an overgrown baby, if this latest set of tweets / comments were one offs then maybe you can say he is going through a rough patch but its about the 4th or 5th time its happened in his career, there is a link somewhere to his comments when leaving one of his french clubs, he fell out in Russia (although to be fair there is some justification there, saying that though the Russian poster who came on here did warn us he wasnt Saint Pete!), he has fell out with the Nigerian FA on numerous occasions, prompting as recently as a fortnight ago Joseph Yobo to tell him to shut up and show some respect and now this. The bloke is a pathetic overgrown baby.

I know QPR are desperate but if i was Fernandez i would seriously look at things over the last 48 hours, he needs players the exact opposite of Odemwingie for theire battle, what happens if Harry plays Zamora or Remy upfront instead of him? will there be another #headsgone moment! If i was any club in the european top flights i wouldnt touch him with a barge pole, i think the fact this is the 3rd or 4th at club level its happened would suggest he is the problem, and i dont think for top flight football he is good enough to warrant the baggage he brings, he is like a poor mans Nicholas Anelka, always somebody else fault, difference is Anelka is worth the hassle, pete is isnt, when he is good he is good but they are too flitting moments to justify the baggage he brings.

I hope for football morals we make him stay and make his life hell, really make him earn his £40k a week, might be grateful then for what he has, i dont expect loyalty from footballers they look out for themselves but pretty much every transfer window he has been linked away and according to his comments he has wanted to go each one, only when he hasnt he then says he loves the club, blah, blah, blah. The problem with keeping him around is he clearly is an attention seeker and that may carry into the training ground, Dorrans is unhappy, not heard any peep off him last few weeks, got his head down and i bet he is no trouble in training. If Odemwhinger does have to stay i bet he will be a right pain the next 6 months, and why should reserves and kids be forced to have him train with them, surely he is the opposite to what you want any up and coming footballer to be.

I hope in training somebody like McAuley who has actually had to earn his way up the ladder instead of being a diva absolutely clatters him in training, not to ruin his career or anything but just to remind him that some people have had to have things the hard way (in football terms) instead of crying everytime they dont get there own way.

My over riding feeling is though i just want him gone and never want to see him in an Albion shirt again, if we sell him 2-3m so be it, whats he going to offer us now anyway? Some may say he has bullied us if we do sell him cheap, i dont think so, i think we have come out with a lot of credit, i think he has brought all the publicity to himself and anybody reading his comments can see what a idiot scumbag he is and probably think fair play to Albion just to get rid of him. QPR are in such a desperate position thats why they want him and may get him, i cannot think of any other top flight club who would take a punt on him after his actions the last 48 hours, i think he has committed career suicide, its QPR or nothing for him in England, he isnt good enough to be a Demba Ba, Anelka type who can act divas, he is a player who was great for Albion, we were great for him but i think he has gone as high as he is ever going to.

Just hope this afternoon says we have accepted a bid and the baby never has any association with our club again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 27, 2013, 11:28:34 AM
QPR will most likely try to get away with a late offer now which will inevitably be below what we're looking for. Factors we'll need to consider are:

- whether or not we want a parasitic influence at the club for the rest of the end of the season.
- whether or not we want to continue paying him £40k a week, potentially for some time if no-one comes in for him in the summer.
- what he'll be worth during the summer, especially now his pathetic outbursts have occurred.

It's hard not to conclude that what Odemwingie has done over the past few days has not only probably diminshed the wage level a new club might offer him, but also reduced the transfer fee that clubs might be willing to pay for him. Therefore, I can see him going for £3 - 3.5m, perhaps with an add-on to be paid if QPR stay up.

A difficult decision lies ahead for Mr Peace, I suspect.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 11:29:51 AM
http://www.teamtalk.com/premier-league/8446027/Transfer-News-Alan-Pardew-says-Newcastle-had-no-chance-of-signing-Wilfried-Zaha

PARDEW DEFENDS TRANSFER POLICY
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Alan Pardew has defended his policy of signing players from France after admitting Newcastle United had 'no chance' of winning the race for Wilfried Zaha.

Newcastle have been busy plundering Ligue 1 for fresh faces this month, with Mathieu Debuchy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Yoan Gouffran, Massadio Haidara and Moussa Sissoko having all arrived at St James' Park.

Pardew believes there is better value to be found on the continent after previously being interested in Zaha, who has agreed to join Manchester United from Crystal Palace in a deal worth up to a reported £15million.


"There is slightly more value in the French market," said Pardew. "Obviously, we have exploited that.

"Zaha is a typical example of trying to take a young player out of the Championship. I like Zaha. I wanted to take him but, seriously, we had no chance. We just can't pay that.

"We got four players for that. It suited our needs better to strengthen several positions for that sort of money.

"It was a case of getting the players that were right for us at the price that was right for us.

"We wanted players who had ambition in them, not just for six months but for the future. None of them was a knee-jerk reaction, otherwise we would have bought a 31-year-old from a squad in the Premier League.

"We bought players to take us forward. We are happy with the business we have done."

Guess which knee-jerk 31 year old...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 27, 2013, 11:30:46 AM
Just found this:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4765119/Peter-Odemwingie-facing-70000-fine-after-slamming-West-Brom.html

and

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2269033/Peter-Odemwingie-says-West-Brom-stole-loyalty.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 27, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
QPR will most likely try to get away with a late offer now which will inevitably be below what we're looking for. Factors we'll need to consider are:

- whether or not we want a parasitic influence at the club for the rest of the end of the season.
- whether or not we want to continue paying him £40k a week, potentially for some time if no-one comes in for him in the summer.
- what he'll be worth during the summer, especially now his pathetic outbursts have occurred.

It's hard not to conclude that what Odemwingie has done over the past few days has not only probably diminshed the wage level a new club might offer him, but also reduced the transfer fee that clubs might be willing to pay for him. Therefore, I can see him going for £3 - 3.5m, perhaps with an add-on to be paid if QPR stay up.

A difficult decision lies ahead for Mr Peace, I suspect.

The other option of course is a loan deal.

Difficult decision for the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 11:35:53 AM
QPR will most likely try to get away with a late offer now which will inevitably be below what we're looking for. Factors we'll need to consider are:

- whether or not we want a parasitic influence at the club for the rest of the end of the season.
- whether or not we want to continue paying him £40k a week, potentially for some time if no-one comes in for him in the summer.
- what he'll be worth during the summer, especially now his pathetic outbursts have occurred.

It's hard not to conclude that what Odemwingie has done over the past few days has not only probably diminshed the wage level a new club might offer him, but also reduced the transfer fee that clubs might be willing to pay for him. Therefore, I can see him going for £3 - 3.5m, perhaps with an add-on to be paid if QPR stay up.

A difficult decision lies ahead for Mr Peace, I suspect.

I can't see JP caving in to emotional black mail of this kind. JP will keep a cool head as always and stay out of PO's deranged mind and get on with the business side of things. If PO acts up and refuses to play, behaves like a urine ant etc we will just fine him until he begs for mercy like Tevez did.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 27, 2013, 11:38:13 AM
Seems the QPR fans are having doubts with one nick naming him Pete Odemwonga.  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 27, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
QPR will most likely try to get away with a late offer now which will inevitably be below what we're looking for. Factors we'll need to consider are:

- whether or not we want a parasitic influence at the club for the rest of the end of the season.
- whether or not we want to continue paying him £40k a week, potentially for some time if no-one comes in for him in the summer.
- what he'll be worth during the summer, especially now his pathetic outbursts have occurred.

It's hard not to conclude that what Odemwingie has done over the past few days has not only probably diminshed the wage level a new club might offer him, but also reduced the transfer fee that clubs might be willing to pay for him. Therefore, I can see him going for £3 - 3.5m, perhaps with an add-on to be paid if QPR stay up.

A difficult decision lies ahead for Mr Peace, I suspect.

No decision to make really, the guy has virtually sacked himself, move him on to a club desperate for goals and someone feckless with other peoples money, someone like 'Arry.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 11:43:55 AM
If a player behaves in such a way that he severely reduces his transfer value, then the club could sue him.  Chelsea did this with Mutu when they had to sack him over his drug habits, and he ended up bankrupt as a result.  Man City could have ultimately done the same to Tevez if he had not come back.   QPR and Newcastle likewise had that option with Barton.

Of course the majority of situations get resolved, but I would totally support JP if he took a really tough stance with Odemwingie to remind him of the obligations of a signed contract.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 11:44:33 AM
I can't see us "reward" QPR's under hand tactics by selling PO to them on the cheap. No way. PO will go in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 11:48:02 AM
If a player behaves in such a way that he severely reduces his transfer value, then the club could sue him.  Chelsea did this with Mutu when they had to sack him over his drug habits, and he ended up bankrupt as a result.  Man City could have ultimately done the same to Tevez if he had not come back.   QPR and Newcastle likewise had that option with Barton.

Of course the majority of situations get resolved, but I would totally support JP if he took a really tough stance with Odemwingie to remind him of the obligations of a signed contract.

It's the only sane option for me. This behaviour from PO is way out of line and the club needs to discipline him now. He will get a fine tomorrow most likely, and if things don't improve the club will hit him harder and harder until he understands.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 27, 2013, 11:49:24 AM
I can't see us "reward" QPR's under hand tactics by selling PO to them on the cheap. No way. PO will go in the summer.

Except that we'll be wasting money on his wages in the meantime and his value in the summer will be much less.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 27, 2013, 11:51:06 AM
I can't see us "reward" QPR's under hand tactics by selling PO to them on the cheap. No way. PO will go in the summer.

This is the stance the club should take they tried it on with Ollson don't forget.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 11:52:08 AM
Except that we'll be wasting money on his wages in the meantime and his value in the summer will be much less.

The value will be the same as the QPR lowball offer and we already are paying PO's wages so the money is accounted for. Since we are not getting a replacement this window anyway it doesn't matter. Besides we will keep fining PO until he falls back in line so the club will actually earn a bit on this spectacle.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionLegend on January 27, 2013, 12:00:23 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/26/article-2268349-170A0C26000005DC-697_468x310.jpg)

Up yours too Peter!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 27, 2013, 12:02:28 PM
I totally understand him wanting a last big pay day for the security of his family but the way he has gone about it will blow up in his face i m afraid.
I fully expect the club to stand firm and not give into a last minute bargain for QPR.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 12:04:39 PM
I totally understand him wanting a last big pay day for the security of his family but the way he has gone about it will blow up in his face i m afraid.
I fully expect the club to stand firm and not give into a last minute bargain for QPR.



I'm hearing this a lot. Would he get the move if he didn't do this?

I don't think so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 27, 2013, 12:05:41 PM
I totally understand him wanting a last big pay day for the security of his family but the way he has gone about it will blow up in his face i m afraid.
I fully expect the club to stand firm and not give into a last minute bargain for QPR.

QPR need proven Premiership performers, they will pay what JP wants, I'm sure of it. Interesting that in selling him to QPR, we may doom Villa.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 27, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
I kind of want him to be on the bench for the spurs game so that he can get a torrent of abuse!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: collins101 on January 27, 2013, 12:09:14 PM
Speaking to a couple of friends who support different clubs and they think Odemwingie is the right. The club made it clear to Odemwingie they were going to sell him in the summer and this would be his last season. Now looking at this from Peters point of view this would cause a massive problem as he'd have to relocate to a unknown location with a new born baby.
At first I thought money was his motivation now im not so sure, I think if Qpr offered him 45K as week he would have still gone.
The club wanted to you use him to get as much as they could for him in the summer and he's just told everybody that was the case. Now he's using facts to push through a move to a club who will actually appreciate what he can do. I think there is better ways he could have gone about it but footballers are selfish they only want what is best for them
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 27, 2013, 12:12:46 PM
King Koren, yes i think he would of got a move whether he behaved the way he has or not. QPR meet asking Albions asking price, we accept, he goes, thats it.

He is messing with the wrong club if he thinks he can bully them into lower prices, personally i hope we just get shot of him but i expect JP will say to QPR pay the price or he will stay with us, simple. Its not about the Scumbag, its about every player has a price, if they match it, they get him.

I think we have shown in the past, Davies refused to play, probably thinking he would force a move, he didnt, we ended up getting 10m in total just by sitting tight which is way more than he was worth. Greening asked to leave, we said if somebody meets our price you can go, Fulham did and he went, just standard business deals, nobody needs to go the measures he has because if nobody comes in with another offer he is staying anyway for all his tantrums.

Also a general point, if Odemwingie has been so unhappy where was the transfer request January 1st? Surely you would want to let potential buyers know you were unhappy? Interesting all this unhappiness comes a few days after money bags QPR's interest?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 27, 2013, 12:13:28 PM
Speaking to a couple of friends who support different clubs and they think Odemwingie is the right. The club made it clear to Odemwingie they were going to sell him in the summer and this would be his last season. Now looking at this from Peters point of view this would cause a massive problem as he'd have to relocate to a unknown location with a new born baby.
At first I thought money was his motivation now im not so sure, I think if Qpr offered him 45K as week he would have still gone.
The club wanted to you use him to get as much as they could for him in the summer and he's just told everybody that was the case. Now he's using facts to push through a move to a club who will actually appreciate what he can do. I think there is better ways he could have gone about it but footballers are selfish they only want what is best for them

That's all well and good but isn't he contracted until summer 2014?

So isn't he a little premature about his move?

Pete new the score from day one of his new contract. Pete is 100% in the wrong in this one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
I'm hearing this a lot. Would he get the move if he didn't do this?

I don't think so.

He would get the move if QPR offered a fee that we deem acceptable.

I honestly can't see how any blame can be on the club here, the only party in the wrong is Pete.

Moaning about short-term deal which is reportedly what HE wanted in the first place. Every window trying to get a pay-rise or a move away. Launching disrespectful rants at club, fans and officials (the post about wanting to play for Reedknapp is a disgraceful pop at Clarke).

Do it the right way then he goes with everyones blessing and is remembered fondly for his time here (just like Greening), now he's going to be another Curtis Davies, Paul Robinson, Diomansy Kamara.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
King Koren, yes i think he would of got a move whether he behaved the way he has or not. QPR meet asking Albions asking price, we accept, he goes, thats it.

He is messing with the wrong club if he thinks he can bully them into lower prices, personally i hope we just get shot of him but i expect JP will say to QPR pay the price or he will stay with us, simple. Its not about the Scumbag, its about every player has a price, if they match it, they get him.

I think we have shown in the past, Davies refused to play, probably thinking he would force a move, he didnt, we ended up getting 10m in total just by sitting tight which is way more than he was worth. Greening asked to leave, we said if somebody meets our price you can go, Fulham did and he went, just standard business deals, nobody needs to go the measures he has because if nobody comes in with another offer he is staying anyway for all his tantrums.

Also a general point, if Odemwingie has been so unhappy where was the transfer request January 1st? Surely you would want to let potential buyers know you were unhappy? Interesting all this unhappiness comes a few days after money bags QPR's interest?

Funny how any key player who leaves this clubs seems to do so in controversy. They are always depicted as the bad guys.

Kamara, Robinson, Davies and now Pete.

Yet the players only have good things to say about the fans and the club. Surely handing in a transfer request (forfeiting loyalty bonus' which are a lot of money ) highlights it's not all about the money.

We don't always treat our players well. Phillips - no two year contract, Koren we used for promotion and then cast him aside. No way is the club holier than thou in all this. If it comforts you to be believe this than that's fair enough, but we don't know what gets promised behind closed doors.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Speaking to a couple of friends who support different clubs and they think Odemwingie is the right. The club made it clear to Odemwingie they were going to sell him in the summer and this would be his last season. Now looking at this from Peters point of view this would cause a massive problem as he'd have to relocate to a unknown location with a new born baby.
At first I thought money was his motivation now im not so sure, I think if Qpr offered him 45K as week he would have still gone.
The club wanted to you use him to get as much as they could for him in the summer and he's just told everybody that was the case. Now he's using facts to push through a move to a club who will actually appreciate what he can do. I think there is better ways he could have gone about it but footballers are selfish they only want what is best for them

How can it be right ? the club gave him a contract which he was more than happy to sign, if the club said he could move in the Summer then they seem to be happy to keep their part of that but he wants to change the deal and move now because he sees a big money move. Money is his motivation he has admitted its all about the money numerous times on Twitter yesterday, the rest is just ramblings of an idiot (or a clever tactical ploy to get what he wants).

So he's a footballer with a new born baby, I doubt very much he will be the first in that situation to move clubs even to another country if it comes to it and he certainly won't be the last.

Why are people (including Pete) having a go at the club for trying to get the best price possible, shall we just give him away ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 12:26:10 PM
He would get the move if QPR offered a fee that we deem acceptable.

I honestly can't see how any blame can be on the club here, the only party in the wrong is Pete.

Moaning about short-term deal which is reportedly what HE wanted in the first place. Every window trying to get a pay-rise or a move away. Launching disrespectful rants at club, fans and officials (the post about wanting to play for Reedknapp is a disgraceful pop at Clarke).

Do it the right way then he goes with everyones blessing and is remembered fondly for his time here (just like Greening), now he's going to be another Curtis Davies, Paul Robinson, Diomansy Kamara.

Was 10 million for Davies, 6million for Kamara, 5 million for Greening really reasonable though.

What we deem acceptable are pretty scandalous prices.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
Was 10 million for Davies, 6million for Kamara, 5 million for Greening really reasonable though.

What we deem acceptable are pretty scandalous prices.

The buying clubs were happy to pay those prices so yes they were obviously reasonable. If they weren't then those clubs wouldn't have paid them.

Isn't the whole idea of a business to sell your products (which players are) at the best possible price ?

We know what the club have promised Pete, he's told everyone on Twitter and he's the one trying to change the deal now.

He has said its about the money more than once.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 12:32:01 PM
Was 10 million for Davies, 6million for Kamara, 5 million for Greening really reasonable though.

What we deem acceptable are pretty scandalous prices.

Scandalous prices in football? Well, I've never...

£2 million for PO? Now that is scandalous.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 12:36:21 PM
The buying clubs were happy to pay those prices so yes they were obviously reasonable. If they weren't then those clubs wouldn't have paid them.

Isn't the whole idea of a business to sell your products (which players are) at the best possible price ?

We know what the club have promised Pete, he's told everyone on Twitter and he's the one trying to change the deal now.

He has said its about the money more than once.

Yes it is. The fact that JP doesn't care if he pisses everyone off during process is also pretty obvious. I'm not on Pete's side and I'm not against the club. Both have got to do what they've got to do. Accept it and move on. None of the people involved are evil.

Money, family and happiness. I'd want to move too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 12:41:54 PM

Money, family and happiness. I'd want to move too.

There's a Russian proverb Pete should know: "The best is the enemy of good enough".

Pete is highly payed and lives a comfortable life style as it is. He will end his playing days and will never have to work another day in his life, should he so chose. If he wants more money he could, gasp, work for it!  :o (Shocking I know, what a concept)

As I said before, this is a luxury problem for Pete. He is under contract and the club will release him when it's proper for the club. Pete should be complaining to QPR to up their offer to something resembling his value on the market rather than barking at WBA.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:43:00 PM
Yes it is. The fact that JP doesn't care if he pisses everyone off during process is also pretty obvious. I'm not on Pete's side and I'm not against the club. Both have got to do what they've got to do. Accept it and move on. None of the people involved are evil.

Money, family and happiness. I'd want to move too.

Everybody wants money, family and happiness.

I'd want to move for more money but i'd do it in a better way, show some respect to the people who come and watch me spending money they can't afford, show some respect to my current employers whoi if it all goes tits up you have to go back to and also show myself as having a bit of class and dignity which Pete seems to be lacking in. Accept it and move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
There's a Russian proverb Pete should know: "The best is the enemy of good enough".

Pete is highly payed and lives a comfortable life style as it is. He will end his playing days and will never have to work another day in his life, should he so chose. If he wants more money he could, gasp, work for it!  :o (Shocking I know, what a concept)

As I said before, this is a luxury problem for Pete. He is under contract and the club will release him when it's proper for the club. Pete should be complaining to QPR to up their offer to something resembling his value on the market rather than barking at WBA.

Theres a Russian proverb he seemed to know last night about money not being the thing that brings happiness only the amount.,
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 12:46:02 PM
Theres a Russian proverb he seemed to know last night about money not being the thing that brings happiness only the amount.,

So what about JP? Isn't he allowed to look for the most 'happiness' he can as well?  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:48:01 PM
So what about JP? Isn't he allowed to look for the most 'happiness' he can as well?  ;D

Apparently not by the looks of it  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 27, 2013, 12:50:27 PM
Nobody has said anybody is evil Koren but it is disrespectful of Odemwingi to complain to us, one of the least well off fan bases in the country, about how he needs this move to look after his family etc he and is scared this is his last chance to get a longer term deal on good money, as if earning 2 million quid a year is not enough to set you up for life.

Odemwingie has the warped view that he is a victim of an industry that enslaves poor workers like him, ignoring the fact he will have earnedabout 10 million already in his career at keast and that he wil still earn a few more million before he retires aged 37 or 38. 

He signed a contract for over 2 million a year. If he was not happy being tied down like that, he should not have signed it. The club do not have to just sell the first time and offer comes in - he serves us, not the other way around.

If anything, this latest saga just proves to me how dis-attached from football I am becoming and how I wont really miss it if it eats itself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 12:52:47 PM
Everybody wants money, family and happiness.

I'd want to move for more money but i'd do it in a better way, show some respect to the people who come and watch me spending money they can't afford, show some respect to my current employers whoi if it all goes tits up you have to go back to and also show myself as having a bit of class and dignity which Pete seems to be lacking in. Accept it and move on.

It's his life. If want to burn those bridges then so be it. I'm thankful for the good he's done for this club, I don't feel disrespected - he's stated the reasons he wants to leave - I accept them.

His current employers are concerned just as much about money as Peter Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 27, 2013, 12:56:50 PM
What have we done to deserve this? This must feel like a real kick in the teeth to club the way PO has gone about things the last couple of days.

If there is a club that does things the right way it's WBA so I just can't understand how someone can be so short sighted and disrespectful not just to this employers but the fans who took him under their wing.

This whole episode is truly shocking. Thank goodness we have a chairmen in JP we can trust to squeeze every last penny we can get out that mafia run, joke of a club QPR.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 12:59:13 PM
It's his life. If want to burn those bridges then so be it. I'm thankful for the good he's done for this club, I don't feel disrespected - he's stated the reasons he wants to leave - I accept them.

His current employers are concerned just as much about money as Peter Odemwingie.

Thats how you feel then thats upto you, I don't have to agree with it all and I don't.

I'm grateful for what he's done but he is danger of destroying that by acting like a spoilt little kid.

Of course his current employers are concerned about money, they're the ones running the business and running it the way they currently are enables them to pay Pete the money he is currently on. If he is not set up for lfe on that then he is the one doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 27, 2013, 01:01:33 PM
I dont doubt the club arent perfect, i imagine and from what we have been told that JP is a very difficult man to deal with. However the key factor here is Pete is employed by Albion, he works for us, not vice versa. Also if a club doesnt think a player is worth a fee, they dont pay it so Kamara, Davies and Robinson, the clubs who signed them all thought they were worth what we asked.

Where do you draw the line, what if every one of our players throws a hissy fit because they cant get there own way, do we get rid of all of them for what they want to go for, rather than what the club wants? as far as we can tell, the Scumbag has been told if an acceptable offer comes in for the club then he will go, as stated he works for the club so why the heck should we sell him for an offer that suits him and not the club? Pete doesnt pay Albion to play for them every week its the other way round, so therefore he has to respect his employers and what they want.

Albion value him at say £7-8m, QPR offer £2m, sensible says around £5-6m he goes, both parties know that, QPR have tested the water, we have said no and negotiations go on, they go up slightly we come down slightly, no player having a hissy fit should have any part to play in that.

As for Koren and Phillips, i dont remember Albion slating those players and i dont remember the players slating Albion, its part of squad evolution, we moved on and they moved on. Also i dont remember of Robinson, Hughes, Kamara or Davies slagging off the club and we didnt slag them off, some fans took a gripe against some of them, thats football, Davies went on strike so he was asking for a tough reception when he came back, the others there was some booing, but also applause and appreciation but maybe with the exception of Davies after his strike (and i still dont think it was anywhere near this level of hatred) i cannot think of another Albion player who has behaved the way the scumbag has or caused such hostility. The fact it has happened with previous clubs and his national team maybe suggests he is the one in the wrong, he has created this whole situation when he didnt need to and could of left with probably disappointment but also respect from the fans and club. I dont like seeing the clubs name all over the media due to one players petulance.

Like most think, if he wants a last payday then thats upto him, he said he wants to leave, if a team offers what we want he goes, however his antics, contradictions and petulance is what has got my back up certainly, he has shown no respect to the people who pay his wages and idolise him and seems to think he has done us a favour by playing football for us and scoring some goals, forgetting that is his job, to play football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 01:05:51 PM
Nobody has said anybody is evil Koren but it is disrespectful of Odemwingi to complain to us, one of the least well off fan bases in the country, about how he needs this move to look after his family etc he and is scared this is his last chance to get a longer term deal on good money, as if earning 2 million quid a year is not enough to set you up for life.

Odemwingie has the warped view that he is a victim of an industry that enslaves poor workers like him, ignoring the fact he will have earnedabout 10 million already in his career at keast and that he wil still earn a few more million before he retires aged 37 or 38. 

He signed a contract for over 2 million a year. If he was not happy being tied down like that, he should not have signed it. The club do not have to just sell the first time and offer comes in - he serves us, not the other way around.

If anything, this latest saga just proves to me how dis-attached from football I am becoming and how I wont really miss it if it eats itself.

No one can see the future. He may off signed the contract in good faith he would fulfil his obligations and now his circumstances are different. He is no longer happy, he has a family now, he didn't expect to be offered a ridiculously lucrative contract at 31 another club, he isn't playing where he expected. This is not the first offer that's come in; there has been plenty by all accounts, some of which he was apparently not informed about.

Football is a joke now. That's why I don't understand the hatred towards Pete. As a fan you either turn up and pay your money, or you don't.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:10:18 PM
Well congratulations to him on ruining the positive memories the supporters had of him. The hat-trick against Wolves, goals against Villa and those bursts of pace will now be forgotten and he will be remembered as a mercenary who treated the club, fans and team mates with such little respect.

I remember a Lokomotiv fan coming on here and saying something like this would happen. We ended up shooting him down and blaming Russia for being a racist country as a reason he wanted out and that the supporters were in the wrong, turns out, he was probably right after-all.

Hopefully the club have a heavy fine waiting which shall give him something else to tweet about.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 01:14:51 PM
Thats how you feel then thats upto you, I don't have to agree with it all and I don't.

I'm grateful for what he's done but he is danger of destroying that by acting like a spoilt little kid.

Of course his current employers are concerned about money, they're the ones running the business and running it the way they currently are enables them to pay Pete the money he is currently on. If he is not set up for lfe on that then he is the one doing something wrong.

I'm not saying you have to agree with me, I don't really expect you too. I also appreciate all of your views, I think they are understandable.

For all those saying we pay him and not the other way round. Are his goals and other contributions earning us a rather large sum of money too? Avoiding relegation, finishing higher up the table, making us more attractive as club for better players. Who has earned more out of this deal; the club or Peter Odemwingie?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
Its very simple.

He was offered a contract. He accepted the terms of that contract.

Once signed, that contract can only be varied by agreement between the parties. It cannot be varied unilaterally by either party.

We have not agreed to vary it.  Until we do, the terms of the contract remain valid and in force. That means that unless a variation is agreed by both parties, his contract simply expires in summer 2014 and he becomes a free agent.

Let's highlight that - he becomes a free agent in summer 2014, NOT in January 2013.   Nothing changes before then unless BOTH parties agree to it.

He has behaved over the past 48 hours in a manner which would get an employee sacked in the real world. In the real world, an employee merely loses his income. In football, the employer has paid to buy the player for a contractual term. The employer has an asset of value, which the employee has wilfully damaged by his actions.

Its clear that he has been appallingly advised.  If we value him at £5m today with 18 months left on his contract and he behaves in such a way that his ongoing employment is untenable and we can only get £3m for him, then we have every right to sue him personally for the £2m "loss" that we would have incurred.

Go for it JP - this is a point of principle.  Screw the ungrateful greedy bugger or make him go to Turkey or Russia or somewhere else at a better price than unscrupulous QPR will offer.  After all, if the club gets a £5m offer from say Turkey and only £3m from QPR, then we are not in way bound to accept the QPR offer.

PO obviously needs to be reminded by his advisors of the law of contract.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 27, 2013, 01:15:53 PM
King Koren, your right football is a joke, where else can the employee try and call the shots to the employer.

A lot of players have left Albion over the years and i would say 90% have gone with best wishes, however this maybe states the general opinion about Odemwingie and why there is such detest for him, its due to his behaviour.

Nobody is naive enough to expect loyalty from footballers and he obviously feels he needs more security, thats his choice but at least have dignity doing it. And i still stand by where was the transfer request to leave January 1st? If any of his reasons are to be believed and he has been that unhappy for so long then any normal player come a minute past midnight on January 1st would of had that transfer request in to try and get moving, let clubs know they want out and see what happens.

None of this unhappiness has been spoke about until about a week ago, coinciding with the QPR offer, why not just say he wants more money and go, not create the circus, slag people and the club off, etc in the process.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 27, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
This is not the first offer that's come in; there has been plenty by all accounts, some of which he was apparently not informed about.

What he was actually saying here, is that while he knew an inquiry was made, he wasn't Tapped-up by the Clubs involved so never found out what they would have paid him each week..... unlike QPR and their "agents".
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 27, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
It's his life. If want to burn those bridges then so be it. I'm thankful for the good he's done for this club, I don't feel disrespected - he's stated the reasons he wants to leave - I accept them.

His current employers are concerned just as much about money as Peter Odemwingie.

Which is the reason we are one of the most well run clubs around and with JP in charge, will never face the financial problems which have ruined many clubs recently. The fact is, Odemwingie is under contract. He has no say in what is value is, he is WBA's commodity. He is not self-employed or freelance, and has signed a legally binding contract which is lawfully bound to fulfill. The club doesn't and shouldn't have to inform a player of an offer for them if the club has no intention of selling a contracted player.

So he's had a baby, so friggin' what, I've got 3 of them. With the money he earns from our club, he shouldn't really have a logistical problem moving on short notice, I'm sure he can afford a removal man and van to take care of moving his belongings. His kid is newborn so he hasn't got schools to worry about. You surely have to see this situation for what it is...... A very good player behaving in a disgraceful and brattish manner, showing a total lack of loyalty and respect to the fans he "loves" and the club that pays his very large paycheck. Anything else is irrelevant.

If QPR want him, they can stump up the 10 million that he's worth, or if not feck off and try again in the summer when we can sell him at our convenience.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 01:18:40 PM
I'm not saying you have to agree with me, I don't really expect you too. I also appreciate all of your views, I think they are understandable.

For all those saying we pay him and not the other way round. Are his goals and other contributions earning us a rather large sum of money too. Avoiding relegation, finishing higher up the table, making us more attractive as club for better players. Who has earned more out of this deal; the club or Peter Odemwingie?

But we do pay him, no matter what he has achieved, its been done as an employee of this club same as every footballer at every club. Financially the club has earned more but that's not solely down to Pete, its down to every player and every official involved at the club. It could be argued then that Dan Ashworth has saved us millions on fees by the signings of Yacob, Mulumbu and Pete himself to name but three.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 01:23:06 PM
What he was actually saying here, is that while he knew an inquiry was made, he wasn't Tapped-up by the Clubs involved so never found out what they would have paid him each week..... unlike QPR and their "agents".

Without doubt the real villains here are QPR and Harry Redknapp, but does that really surprise anyone?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 27, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
I'm not saying you have to agree with me, I don't really expect you too. I also appreciate all of your views, I think they are understandable.

For all those saying we pay him and not the other way round. Are his goals and other contributions earning us a rather large sum of money too? Avoiding relegation, finishing higher up the table, making us more attractive as club for better players. Who has earned more out of this deal; the club or Peter Odemwingie?

That is absolute nonsense mate. Odemwingie gets paid to do a job, he was rewarded with a new lucrative contract for his superb performances. What the club makes has nothing to do with it. The club aren't the ones trying to ignore their contractual obligations. Publicly slating the club for refusing to sell THEIR asset is  bang out of order. Odemwingie's behavior is an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 01:28:40 PM
But we do pay him, no matter what he has achieved, its been done as an employee of this club same as every footballer at every club. Financially the club has earned more but that's not solely down to Pete, its down to every player and every official involved at the club. It could be argued then that Dan Ashworth has saved us millions on fees by the signings of Yacob, Mulumbu and Pete himself to name but three.

Another man who's buggered off because he's been offered more money   ;D

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Another man who's buggered off because he's been offered more money   ;D

 :D At least he's stuck around for a bit longer to help us get a replacement.

You think Pete will do that for us  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 27, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
Heard he's had a nice £70k fine.....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
:D At least he's stuck around for a bit longer to help us get a replacement.

You think Pete will do that for us  :D

He's contractually obliged to serve his notice. I'm sure he's already drawing up a short-list of potential houses for him and the missus.   :D

He'll have to if we don't sell him.

What would the sanction be if he refused to play?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 27, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
No one can see the future. He may off signed the contract in good faith he would fulfil his obligations and now his circumstances are different. He is no longer happy, he has a family now, he didn't expect to be offered a ridiculously lucrative contract at 31 another club, he isn't playing where he expected. This is not the first offer that's come in; there has been plenty by all accounts, some of which he was apparently not informed about.

Football is a joke now. That's why I don't understand the hatred towards Pete. As a fan you either turn up and pay your money, or you don't.

I really dont understand your point Koren. I understand that Pete would want more money as that is natural, however you dont seem to be able to understand why fans are disappointed in the way he has gone about trying to engineer a move.

The point is, he is slating the club because in his opinion we are wrong to not accept a 2 million bid for him. He believes WE owe him something as if we haven't paid him over 4 million for 2 and a half years work. I can understand him wanting to have more money but I dont understand how he can so publicly slate the club in such terms and how he can be of the mindset that he is a victim, when much poorer people are forking out a lot of money to watch matches.

You seem to believe that fans should say "fair enough, thanks for being here Odemwingie and blessing us with your presence however we owe you so much after you generously played for us for 2 and a half seasons, after all, we haven't allowed you to move the other times in that very, very, very long period that clubs have come in for you with offers that, although were not quite befitting of a double figure goalscorer, were none the less an opportunity for you to escape this living nightmare having to earn 2 million a year playing for us".

Well sorry mate, I just dont feel that way, and I dont understand why you think I should share that opinion.

Odemwingie has earned more than I ever will, playing a game most males in this country for free for the first 30 years of their lives. I dont accept that we are in the wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
Heard he's had a nice £70k fine.....

I really don't think that's enough personally but I guess there is a strict procedure the club will have to follow in order to give him any sort of fine.

His conduct over this weekend has been extremely childish, purely because he hasn't been able to get his own way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 27, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Another man who's buggered off because he's been offered more money   ;D

and a better position.
I wouldn't call a move to QPR a move up. Would you?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 01:46:25 PM
and a better position.
I wouldn't call a move to QPR a move up. Would you?


Would Dan have moved sideways/downwards if he was offered way more money? We'll never know.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 01:46:35 PM
Another man who's buggered off because he's been offered more money   ;D

Sorry - that's rubbish.  He has taken this club as far as he realistically could, and wasn't on a fixed term contract. I don't begrudge DA going to the FA one little bit. There is simply no comparison.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Turkish baggie on January 27, 2013, 01:50:35 PM
I've just read in the Express and Star the latest outburst quoted from Twitter. This 'child' is a prat! It makes me wonder if the supposed out burst by fans in Russia before joining us was actually racist or they to found out that he is more for himself than for the club?

He must now be finished with us? How can he expect the fans, paying good money to support this mercenary?

Part of me says let him rot but the other says get as much for him as possible and good riddance!
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: breakfastbaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:51:50 PM
I really don't think that's enough personally but I guess there is a strict procedure the club will have to follow in order to give him any sort of fine.

His conduct over this weekend has been extremely childish, purely because he hasn't been able to get his own way.


As a new fan from North America I can't understand that he has the freedom to post on twitter the way he does.  Most North American sports leagues have codes of conducts relating to twitter and the way in which you talk about the team paying your wages.  If he was playing hockey in Canada, he most certainly have faced some rather expensive fines by now.

No one held a gun to PO head when he signed his contract to play for an agreed upon amount of wages for an agreed amount length of time. 

Pete states a lack of respect, yet he cites that a 2 million pound transfer fee should be sufficient.  The team is showing him the ultimate respect by saying they would rather keep Peter Odemwingie the player than receive the 2 mil.

Pete really should be questioning the lack of respect from QPR.  If they truly valued him, surely they would offer more than 2 million to aquire his services.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:54:18 PM

Would Dan have moved sideways/downwards if he was offered way more money? We'll never know.

I'm afraid that hasn't happened and we'll never know whether he would but the fact of the matter is that hasn't happened and nor should we use that as a stick to defend Peter Odemwingie with. Ashworth has moved to better himself, financially and career wise at arguably the biggest job in English football for his position. There is no hard feelings attached, he's given us everything and even stayed to find his own successor. He's gone about his move the right way, however, to try and cast a judgement like that in defence of Odemwingie is incredibly unfair.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
I really don't think that's enough personally but I guess there is a strict procedure the club will have to follow in order to give him any sort of fine.

His conduct over this weekend has been extremely childish, purely because he hasn't been able to get his own way.

I understand two weeks wages is the maximum permitted under PFA rules.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:58:10 PM

As a new fan from North America I can't understand that he has the freedom to post on twitter the way he does.  Most North American sports leagues have codes of conducts relating to twitter and the way in which you talk about the team paying your wages.  If he was playing hockey in Canada, he most certainly have faced some rather expensive fines by now.

No one held a gun to PO head when he signed his contract to play for an agreed upon amount of wages for an agreed amount length of time. 

Pete states a lack of respect, yet he cites that a 2 million pound transfer fee should be sufficient.  The team is showing him the ultimate respect by saying they would rather keep Peter Odemwingie the player than receive the 2 mil.

Pete really should be questioning the lack of respect from QPR.  If they truly valued him, surely they would offer more than 2 million to aquire his services.

There's a video on You Tube with the side going through a meeting with FA advisors about their conduct on social networking sites, well obviously, Peter Odemwingie didn't pay much attention in that meeting. He has  no right to go and verbally attack the supporters and club the way he has and he deserves every fine that shall come his way.

Your final point is something I agree with but I do put that down to testing the water of the market. I think we all know that wasn't a serious offer, however, for Odemwingie to claim it was is laughable as that £2million will not give us the opportunity to replace him when you consider both fees and wages.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 01:59:35 PM
I understand two weeks wages is the maximum permitted under PFA rules.

Well that shall explain it then.

Personally, two weeks wages isn't enough in my opinion, but there's nothing we can do. That'll be covered in no time when he gets his move away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 27, 2013, 02:01:00 PM
Sorry - that's rubbish.  He has taken this club as far as he realistically could, and wasn't on a fixed term contract. I don't begrudge DA going to the FA one little bit. There is simply no comparison.

I think he was joking overseas baggie. See the smiley face.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 02:03:34 PM
Is QPR even a step down?

Assuming they manage to stay up, will we finish above them next season? Let's face it with their money - they have more potential than us - an unfortunate, but undeniable truth.

In August we may well be both Prem teams with 0 points. Look at their squad, manager and money. Look at ours - who's more attractive?

I think he was joking overseas baggie. See the smiley face.

I was joking.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 27, 2013, 02:07:48 PM

As a new fan from North America I can't understand that he has the freedom to post on twitter the way he does.  Most North American sports leagues have codes of conducts relating to twitter and the way in which you talk about the team paying your wages.  If he was playing hockey in Canada, he most certainly have faced some rather expensive fines by now.

No one held a gun to PO head when he signed his contract to play for an agreed upon amount of wages for an agreed amount length of time. 

Pete states a lack of respect, yet he cites that a 2 million pound transfer fee should be sufficient.  The team is showing him the ultimate respect by saying they would rather keep Peter Odemwingie the player than receive the 2 mil.

Pete really should be questioning the lack of respect from QPR.  If they truly valued him, surely they would offer more than 2 million to aquire his services.

It is not very easy to enforce, or at least I would not imagine it is. Don't forget American sports leagues are run in a different manner, mainly because your leagues are the very pinnacle of their spots and in many cases, the only professional league hey can operate in (Baseball only really has 3 big leagues, NFL 1, with maybe 2 minor options and NHL only 1 reasonable option, not to mention he money on offer in NBA being fa greater than Europe) . This, combined with American employment laws not having the same regulations as European law, allows clubs to have far greater power over their employees than we can. After all, if English teams were to place strong rules against our players, they could go to Spain, Italy, France, Italy, Russia or even further afield to the Middle East, China, Brazil or the USA.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: donnybaggieboy on January 27, 2013, 02:09:26 PM
i am getting p***** off with PO since his first season with us he has been looking to move on to better? things this is not the first time there has been uncertainty over his future.we took him from racist abuse in russia treat him like a god and these rants on twitter has burnt his bridges with the supporters after last week saying on national tv "i love this club with all my heart"then 6 days later bangs in a transfer request ,to secure his and his families future!!! how much money do these people need!!! nearly all my spare money of my meagre wages is spent on the albion ,i "love the club with all my heart" but i am thinking of watching my local team to save money and secure the future for  me and my family!!! what a load of s****!!! get 3m for him and spend it on danny graham then watch him squirm for another move when qpr get relegated
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
Well that shall explain it then.

Personally, two weeks wages isn't enough in my opinion, but there's nothing we can do. That'll be covered in no time when he gets his move away.

Yes but it's up to two weeks wages for each misdemeanour. If he keeps stepping out of line he won't be earning anything at all!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on January 27, 2013, 02:33:50 PM
As a player and for what he has done for us including goals against Wo1ve5 and Villa, i love Peter Odemwingie. However since friday at around 4:30pm the guy as really gone down hill quicker than the Villa!!

My opinion is the club need to make a stance on this one and dig their heels in (unless we get over the top money). I think if we cave (which i dont think we will) then it will set a presidence for players engineering a move away from us! We cant be seen to be a soft touch and i'm sure JP will feel th same.

The guy simply cant play for the club again, end of. So unless a big bid comes in make him sit tight, take a hit on his wages (we have budgeted for them already so no real additional cost) and cash in, in the summer at which point i'd just let him go to the highest bidder if there are any!

His outburst as shown himself up not only to fans at our club but across the world, hes made his bed..........

As for the Albion onwards and upwards! BOINGBOING

Great post totally agree with what you said
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gingaprince on January 27, 2013, 02:40:14 PM
Another problem of the outburst is that he has made his position in the club untenable by naming other so called team mates . How can he possibly be accepted in the dressing room without spliting it?

We bought him as an unproven player for £2m . He now has a very good goalscoring record so his value must be at least £5m! Tell the world that this is the price and wait until Thursday.

On a forward thinking point , Lukaku will probably go in the summer, Odemwonga is now useless to us which just leaves Long , whom SC doesn't like to start with or always replaces which doesnt go down well with him. All of a sudden , a position we had strength in looks very bare indeed!

Remember the trouble Odemwonga's agent caused last January and had to be warned by the club of his future conduct. The FA should really step in and take action. This episode has to be stamped out of the game and never repeated .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 02:52:02 PM
Yes but it's up to two weeks wages for each misdemeanour. If he keeps stepping out of line he won't be earning anything at all!

So could he be fined for each outburst? Not each particular tweet, but there were a range of tweets from different time slots.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 03:02:21 PM
So could he be fined for each outburst? Not each particular tweet, but there were a range of tweets from different time slots.

I suspect that after yesterday that's exactly what he will have been threatened with!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on January 27, 2013, 03:20:39 PM
Is QPR even a step down?

Assuming they manage to stay up, will we finish above them next season? Let's face it with their money - they have more potential than us - an unfortunate, but undeniable truth.

In August we may well be both Prem teams with 0 points. Look at their squad, manager and money. Look at ours - who's more attractive?

I was joking.

at petes age i dont think he will ever get the chance to be at qpr if/when they fulfill their potential he will be there for 18months max helping them stay up/get relegated this year then trying to get promotion/consolidate pretty much where we are now so it is a step down. if he was 26 i could see your point but his not. i'd rather have this squad and manager every day of the week too! and money or doing things the right way?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: weareblueweare white on January 27, 2013, 03:36:48 PM
Hopefully  JP will negotiate as high a transfer fee as he can off qpr and send him down the M1. Like somebody said on here yesterday, if Bobby Zamora can fetch £6 million at the age of 31 i'm sure PO is worth in the region of this. Lets see what PO wants to do in the summer if they are relegated ::)
Should make a nice deposit for Lukaku.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 27, 2013, 03:41:09 PM
Hopefully  JP will negotiate as high a transfer fee as he can off qpr and send him down the M1. Like somebody said on here yesterday, if Bobby Zamora can fetch £6 million at the age of 31 i'm sure PO is worth in the region of this. Lets see what PO wants to do in the summer if they are relegated ::)
Should make a nice deposit for Lukaku.
Yes the younger brother at anderlecht.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 04:19:24 PM
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Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 27, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Another problem of the outburst is that he has made his position in the club untenable by naming other so called team mates .
Really? Who? I must have missed that tweet, or he removed it??? Can anyone verify this naming other "so-called team mates?"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 04:23:47 PM
Really? Who? I must have missed that tweet, or he removed it??? Can anyone verify this naming other "so-called team mates?"

Jerome Thomas and also Scharner were mentioned, the tweets are copied in this thread probably a couple of pages back now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Esso #13 on January 27, 2013, 04:26:32 PM
Hahaha, has his asking price doubled now?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 27, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
I notice he has deleted some of his tweets from last night.  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 27, 2013, 04:37:43 PM
He probably woke up a few hours ago on his living room floor, fully clothed, surrounded by 18 empty cans of Guinness and a laptop, thinking 'S***, what was I up to yesterday'?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on January 27, 2013, 05:00:26 PM
Great post totally agree with what you said
agree fully too make him sit it out until the windows shut then sell in the summer plus if you sell now it only strengthens qpr at this moment in time i;d sooner they went down than the villa >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mike on January 27, 2013, 05:26:51 PM
Brilliant news that he has put that statement out, QPR are desperate and JP will drag this out until he gets what he wants for PO £5m+ and if you add his wages we are looking at £8m for us in cash.

You mean the money we would save on wages?. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: harrowbaggie on January 27, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
I notice he has deleted some of his tweets from last night.  ;)
That explains why none of the press mentioned his home alone, Guinness tweet.
I hope the albion have a screen shot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 27, 2013, 06:09:27 PM
I put all his tweets up to when he says goodnight and goes on talking about 2pac in one post a few pages back for anybody that missed them. Looks like he has deleted most of them now.

page 60 second post down
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 27, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
i am getting p***** off with PO since his first season with us he has been looking to move on to better? things this is not the first time there has been uncertainty over his future.we took him from racist abuse in russia treat him like a god and these rants on twitter has burnt his bridges with the supporters after last week saying on national tv "i love this club with all my heart"then 6 days later bangs in a transfer request ,to secure his and his families future!!! how much money do these people need!!! nearly all my spare money of my meagre wages is spent on the albion ,i "love the club with all my heart" but i am thinking of watching my local team to save money and secure the future for  me and my family!!! what a load of s****!!! get 3m for him and spend it on danny graham then watch him squirm for another move when qpr get relegated


Danny Graham ? lol!!!!
I dont know about other Albion fans but Iam feeling physically sick thinking about the idea of watching
Fortune and Brunt playing on the wings for the rest of the season.What we really need is a pacy winger
who can score a few goals .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
In my opinion if he goes to QPR they'll stay up with a bit to spare, so all those hoping he does this all over again in June will probably be disappointed. I have no idea why we don't just match their offer. He's our best player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 06:33:29 PM
In my opinion if he goes to QPR they'll stay up with a bit to spare, so all those hoping he does this all over again in June will probably be disappointed. I have no idea why we don't just match their offer. He's our best player.

Because there is no point in pouring money into this bottomless well. He will only act up in the next window again. PO is not quite right in the head I'm afraid. Never mind he is a quality player. PO will rot this club from the inside out unless we quarantine him like a virus, meaning strict discipline for him, and hold him to his contract to the letter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 27, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
In my opinion if he goes to QPR they'll stay up with a bit to spare, so all those hoping he does this all over again in June will probably be disappointed. I have no idea why we don't just match their offer. He's our best player.
Our best player is debatable , in the top three yes .He certainly is not worth the huge wage hike QPR are reported to be offering him , that's just reckless and is exactly why they have a squad of individuals and full of attitude. I agree he would score goals but IMO unless the replace Nelson at centre back when he departs they will be in real trouble.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
I see from the Daily Mail online that Fernandes is now saying he will walk away from QPR if he can't turn them around.   Never mind that he will have committed them to paying huge wages for years to come to a bunch of mercenaries.

This has "Portsmouth mark 2" written all over it.  And one common denominator - Harry Redknapp, yes the same Harry Redknapp who said after replacing Hughes that a club with average gates of 18,000 should not be paying big wages to players and that he didn't like to see club owners raped like that (or words to that effect).

QPR and Redknapp - you deserve each other.  Odemwingie - you will fit in there very well amongst the other mercenaries. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on January 27, 2013, 06:47:10 PM
We wont pay him 80k a week because our wage structure does allow it, our club is run for the benefit of everyone not just greedy titty babies who are not getting their own way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
I see from the Daily Mail online that Fernandes is now saying he will walk away from QPR if he can't turn them around.   Never mind that he will have committed them to paying huge wages for years to come to a bunch of mercenaries.

This has "Portsmouth mark 2" written all over it.  And one common denominator - Harry Redknapp, yes the same Harry Redknapp who said after replacing Hughes that a club with average gates of 18,000 should not be paying big wages to players and that he didn't like to see club owners raped like that (or words to that effect).

QPR and Redknapp - you deserve each other.  Odemwingie - you will fit in there very well amongst the other mercenaries.

According to his wiki page Fernandes' personal wealth is only $470 million. No way he can afford a yearly £30 to 50 million loss in wages or whatever QPR's losses will be (just thinking of the £50 million losses Villa had that forced even a billionaire like Randy Lerner to throw in the towel and start a drastic cutting operation).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 07:03:04 PM
Premier League goals since start of season 2010/11.

Van Persie 66
Rooney 45
Ba 37
Berbatov 34
Dempsey 34
Fletcher 32
Suarez 31
Aguero 31
Tevez 31
Hernandez 31
Odemwingie 30
Lampard 29
Bent 28
Walcott 26
Dzeko 26
Defoe 25
Torres 25

Where does Odemwingie rate on wages in this list. Almost certainly bottom. Look at the players he is above. Playing a season and a half on the right wing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 07:08:37 PM
Not sure what point you are trying to make, we know he is an excellent player, we know what he has contributed so we should increase our pay structure and give in to him after the way he has conducted himself ?

That gives others free reign to do the same.

I've been attending games since 1976 so i've seen all the bad days that followed but I would be more than happy to see them again if it meant we did not cave in to childish pillocks like this.

Giving into financials demands that are not sustainable in the long term ends one way, let it happen to QPR not us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: woodta on January 27, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
Looked through my tweets. Deleted some. Was too much. Only excuses - home alone, dark, son and wife in hospital, frustrated.


the next episode begins
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 07:12:50 PM
Are you suggesting we should pay what QPR are offering to pay him, Jacko?

We have a structure at this football club which has served us well recently and in my opinion we shouldn't be bullied into altering that because some greedy so and so has thrown a tantrum. I'm one of Pete's biggest admirers and would say he's probably the best player at the club, however, his outburst yesterday went to far and it's now best for all parties that he leaves the club by the end of next week. And as mentioned previously, if you bow down to one player and issue him with a new lucrative contract, then that allows other players to do similar and causes a whole load of complications.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 07:15:44 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
Looked through my tweets. Deleted some. Was too much. Only excuses - home alone, dark, son and wife in hospital, frustrated.


the next episode begins

There are no excuses for his actions. If he was so frustrated he should have gone to bed or if possible rang his wife, not take it out on the supporters and club officials. I do wonder if someone has said something to Odemwingie which has made him retract some of those tweets. An apology would be nice, but I won't hold my breath and even so, it would still mean very little given his previous antics.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on January 27, 2013, 07:17:32 PM
In my opinion if he goes to QPR they'll stay up with a bit to spare, so all those hoping he does this all over again in June will probably be disappointed. I have no idea why we don't just match their offer. He's our best player.

who doesnt want to be here! why do you think he handed in a transfer request!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
Not sure what point you are trying to make, we know he is an excellent player, we know what he has contributed so we should increase our pay structure and give in to him after the way he has conducted himself ?

That gives others free reign to do the same.

I've been attending games since 1976 so i've seen all the bad days that followed but I would be more than happy to see them again if it meant we did not cave in to childish pillocks like this.

Giving into financials demands that are not sustainable in the long term ends one way, let it happen to QPR not us.

My point is we, both as a club and in the majority of fans don't realise what we've got and in tangible terms he is WORTH more than we are able to offer him. I accept he needs to understand we should get a decent price but after the fees for Davies and Kamara we know Peace drives an extremely hard bargain.

Are you suggesting we should pay what QPR are offering to pay him, Jacko?

We have a structure at this football club which has served us well recently and in my opinion we shouldn't be bullied into altering that because some greedy so and so has thrown a tantrum. I'm one of Pete's biggest admirers and would say he's probably the best player at the club, however, his outburst yesterday went to far and it's now best for all parties that he leaves the club by the end of next week. And as mentioned previously, if you bow down to one player and issue him with a new lucrative contract, then that allows other players to do similar and causes a whole load of complications.


I'm saying if we aren't willing to offer him what QPR are then we need to sell him to them for a fair price. Not £2 million, but not £11 or 12 million either.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 27, 2013, 07:21:16 PM
Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP
Looked through my tweets. Deleted some. Was too much. Only excuses - home alone, dark, son and wife in hospital, frustrated.


the next episode begins

If he was so unhappy he should have said on January 1st or earlier. If he goes insane on his own with a Guinness in his hand on a Saturday night I'd hate to see him on a downer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 07:21:55 PM
I'm saying if we aren't willing to offer him what QPR are then we need to sell him to them for a fair price. Not £2 million, but not £11 or 12 million either.

It read to me like you were suggesting we should offer Odemwingie similar in wages to what QPR will offer him. We'll sell him at a price which we believe to be reasonable, but that's up to QPR to get their finger out their backside and pop up with a decent offer. I do think in the region of £5m-£6million shall be enough for Peace to be persuaded to let go. Trying to get the figures you mention is unlikely in my opinion and if means we have to carry Odemwingie until the end of the season then I won't be best pleased.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 07:23:13 PM
He signed a deal to give him £40k a week and is now complaining that he wants more elsewhere and wants to play for a 'respected manager' like Redknapp.

Gob shut, on with the job, let his actions on the pitch prove he is worth more then he may have got his wishes by going about it the right way and not like a spoilt brat only if QPR offer a fee we deem reasonable for a player with 18 months left on his contract.

If this was next January then yes we would be right to accept £2m but not now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 07:26:30 PM
He signed a deal to give him £40k a week and is now complaining that he wants more elsewhere and wants to play for a 'respected manager' like Redknapp.

Gob shut, on with the job, let his actions on the pitch prove he is worth more then he may have got his wishes by going about it the right way and not like a spoilt brat only if QPR offer a fee we deem reasonable for a player with 18 months left on his contract.

If this was next January then yes we would be right to accept £2m but not now.

Look at the list I posted. He is worth more than £40 grand a week. It's only Albion fans who think Odemwingie's wages are obscene. In this business, which is what it is, he is being paid absolute peanuts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TLMS17 on January 27, 2013, 07:30:30 PM
Can't wait for him to leave. Never want to see him put our shirt on again. And to think I've seen people trying to stick up and defend him on here and twitter is just as shocking!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
£40k a week peanuts  ? the others play for clubs who have either wealthy backers or are the top clubs in Europe. We cannot afford to give into mercenaries like Odemwingie.

What next Brunt, Olsson, Foster, Mulumbu, Yacob banging down the door to get increases ? club would be bust within months
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 07:37:55 PM
Can't wait for him to leave. Never want to see him put our shirt on again. And to think I've seen people trying to stick up and defend him on here and twitter is just as shocking!

I hope he starts against Everton, he's our best chance of winning.

£40k a week peanuts  ? the others play for clubs who have either wealthy backers or are the top clubs in Europe. We cannot afford to give into mercenaries like Odemwingie.

What next Brunt, Olsson, Foster, Mulumbu, Yacob banging down the door to get increases ? club would be bust within months


It is peanuts for a player of his calibre it's only a lot of money to Albion. We as fans have to accept he's a better player in the grand scheme of the Premier League than we are able to compensate him.

If I was Peter Odemwingie and saw Loic Remy come into the PL on the back of a very poor season in France as an unproven striker on more than twice I was earning I'd want to do something about it too if I had the chance.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 07:38:42 PM
Jacko, the club knows exactly what they have in Peter Odemwingie. That's why they won't sell him unless someone meets the club's evaluation (which isn't some effing £2 million by the way... as your table of goal scorers highlighted very well.) . Not hard to understand is it.

Odemwingie is under contract with the club. We didn't hold a gun to his head and a knife to his balls to make him sign said contract. What clubs like City pay their players I don't give a poo about.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 07:42:26 PM
Jacko, the club pay him what we can afford, if others club want to pay inflated wages then thats why we have the likes of Portsmouth in deep pooh. We can't and I hope we never cave into demands like this.

All it takes for him to get what he wants is for QPR to offer a fee we deem acceptable. If they are happy to pay what £8m was it for Remy who as you say is having a poor season then they should know that we will want more than the derisory fees they are offering us now.

What happened to footballers playing for trophies and the love of the game ? £££££££££££££
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TLMS17 on January 27, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
May of been our best chance a week ago but after the last 48 hours he would be the worst option. Fans against him, dressing will probs be split, and he just won't give a toss. Be like playing with 10 men
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
Jacko, the club pay him what we can afford, if others club want to pay inflated wages then thats why we have the likes of Portsmouth in deep pooh. We can't and I hope we never cave into demands like this.

All it takes for him to get what he wants is for QPR to offer a fee we deem acceptable. If they are happy to pay what £8m was it for Remy who as you say is having a poor season then they should know that we will want more than the derisory fees they are offering us now.

What happened to footballers playing for trophies and the love of the game ? £££££££££££££

I agree with you mate, the game is gone, you've got players who don't even like football. It's only the supporters who keep it going, but I like to see things from both sides... I don't think Odemwingie is right in what he is suggesting he is worth as a fee, but he is certainly underpaid for what he produces.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on January 27, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Jacko, the club pay him what we can afford, if others club want to pay inflated wages then thats why we have the likes of Portsmouth in deep pooh. We can't and I hope we never cave into demands like this.

All it takes for him to get what he wants is for QPR to offer a fee we deem acceptable. If they are happy to pay what £8m was it for Remy who as you say is having a poor season then they should know that we will want more than the derisory fees they are offering us now.

What happened to footballers playing for trophies and the love of the game ? £££££££££££££
that went out the window when the pl started the younger fans dont believe football existed before the pl!! a real shame.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 07:50:37 PM
Jacko, the club pay him what we can afford, if others club want to pay inflated wages then thats why we have the likes of Portsmouth in deep pooh. We can't and I hope we never cave into demands like this.

All it takes for him to get what he wants is for QPR to offer a fee we deem acceptable. If they are happy to pay what £8m was it for Remy who as you say is having a poor season then they should know that we will want more than the derisory fees they are offering us now.

What happened to footballers playing for trophies and the love of the game ? £££££££££££££

Also why not accept his transfer request if we are just waiting for QPR to match our asking price? Avoids all that has happened since.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 07:52:27 PM
Also why not accept his transfer request if we are just waiting for QPR to match our asking price? Avoids all that has happened since.

Don't accept it because we didn't want to sell him would be the obvious answer. If we have a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the Summer then why accept a request now ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 27, 2013, 07:52:46 PM
Also why not accept his transfer request if we are just waiting for QPR to match our asking price? Avoids all that has happened since.

Makes him look like the bad guy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 07:52:57 PM
I agree with you mate, the game is gone, you've got players who don't even like football. It's only the supporters who keep it going, but I like to see things from both sides... I don't think Odemwingie is right in what he is suggesting he is worth as a fee, but he is certainly underpaid for what he produces.

Only in the insane bubble world of PL football.

To think this rubbish is only going to get worse with the flood of fresh Sky money :( The PL is clearly a financial bubble and it's going to blow up big time one fine day. In the long run it is not possible for wages to keep doubling every few years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 07:54:27 PM
Also why not accept his transfer request if we are just waiting for QPR to match our asking price? Avoids all that has happened since.

Duh!

Because we KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN PO and don't want to sell him? Maybe?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 08:05:02 PM
Makes him look like the bad guy.

He's done all that himself
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 08:06:11 PM
Don't accept it because we didn't want to sell him would be the obvious answer. If we have a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the Summer then why accept a request now ?

As he said it leaves him with nothing in hand. There is only a mega rich club in dire straights with a manager willing to break the bank NOW, in the summer he is back to square one if we don't offer him an improved contract, it smacks of small-time from Albion to me.

Duh!

Because we KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN PO and don't want to sell him? Maybe?

We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?

Only in the insane bubble world of PL football.

To think this rubbish is only going to get worse with the flood of fresh Sky money :( The PL is clearly a financial bubble and it's going to blow up big time one fine day. In the long run it is not possible for wages to keep doubling every few years.

Sadly we are dealing in the insane world of football mate.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 27, 2013, 08:09:06 PM
Hopefully the likes of Wigan and Fulham may come back in for him. Have a nice bidding war. At the moment it only looks like QPR are keen but they will most likely wait a bit longer. I am bit worried that we we sell him and not have time to bring someone in. Hopefully this will be sorted quickly. I hope we dont play safe and wait intill the summer to find someone else. If we could get 4-5 million I would be tempted to sign Tom Ince. Or what about Malouda at Chelsea ? 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 08:10:05 PM
Jacko, it leaves him with a contract at worst until the Summer of 2014, a mere £2.16m in wages alone. I don't care if he is back to square one, he is under the contract he was more than willing to sign.

Why does it make us small time to not give in to petulance ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
Sadly we are dealing in the insane world of football mate.

But that doesn't mean we should go insane with our finances just because other players and clubs will fall victim to greed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 27, 2013, 08:13:20 PM
Sorry the argument that player x or y earns more cuts no ice. Odemwingie picks up his £40k a week from West Bromwich Albion and right now that is top dollar for us. The is committed to pay that throughout his contract regardless of form or injury. In other words the club shoulders all of the downside risk and therefore it only fair that if the player wants to break that contract the club gets some compensation. £2m is not even the value of his wages over the the unexpired term of his contract (£3m) which is what we could get from him or QPR if he walked out in breach of contract. In footballing terms the only peanuts involved in this sorry saga is the fee QPR have offered.

I have no sympathy with the player, as other posters said nobody put a gun to his head to sign the improved deal he was perfectly at liberty to run his old £25k a week contract down and he would  have been a free agent last summer and he could have gone to whoever he wanted to for a as much money as they were prepared to pay. The notion that Odemwingie is in anyway being hard done by is completely fatuous.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 08:16:19 PM
Hopefully the likes of Wigan and Fulham may come back in for him. Have a nice bidding war. At the moment it only looks like QPR are keen but they will most likely wait a bit longer. I am bit worried that we we sell him and not have time to bring someone in. Hopefully this will be sorted quickly. I hope we dont play safe and wait intill the summer to find someone else. If we could get 4-5 million I would be tempted to sign Tom Ince. Or what about Malouda at Chelsea ?

I honestly don't think we'll sign anyone in this window even if Peter left tomorrow morning.

Jacko, it leaves him with a contract at worst until the Summer of 2014, a mere £2.16m in wages alone.

Why does it make us small time to not give in to petulance ?
It leaves him 33 years old in summer 2014 when arguably the last 3 years he could/should be earning £60 grand a week. Having missed the opportunity at a contract on £80k a week until summer 2015 from QPR.

Got to look at things from both sides, it's entirely plausible this is the only way he could force a move to a club who are willing to risk stupid money.

Sorry the argument that player x or y earns more cuts no ice. Odemwingie picks up his £40k a week from West Bromwich Albion and right now that is top dollar for us. The is committed to pay that throughout his contract regardless of form or injury. In other words the club shoulders all of the downside risk and therefore it only fair that if the player wants to break that contract the club gets some compensation. £2m is not even the value of his wages over the the unexpired term of his contract (£3m) which is what we could get from him or QPR if he walked out in breach of contract. In footballing terms the only peanuts involved in this sorry saga is the fee QPR have offered.

I have no sympathy with the player, as other posters said nobody put a gun to his head to sign the improved deal he was perfectly at liberty to run his old £25k a week contract down and he would  have been a free agent last summer and he could have gone to whoever he wanted to for a as much money as they were prepared to pay. The notion that Odemwingie is in anyway being hard done by is completely fatuous.


Can't agree with you mate, if we take off the blue and white specs and the love of the club we'd all behave in the same way if it was the ONLY way of securing the move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 08:17:58 PM

We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?


Mate, the club knows very well it lucked out with PO. In effect, and you have said it many times here, he is priceless and effectively irreplaceable to a club like us. How else are we to get a player with PO's qualities? We can't normally buy one as players of his qualities are £12 million+ in other words, way out of our league.

What you are saying is effectively what QPR are hinting at, that WBA does not belong in the Prem because we do not pay salaries according to the same tables rich teams do. Well, we can't if we want to have an economy that makes ends meet, it's as simple as that. This club must run in the black or we are gambling big time with our future, and long term you simply don't beat that game and we would go bust. Peter simply is not worth that risk to us. So the club does the best it can and offers PO a good contract, by any normal measure, which he signs and everybody are happy... (expect Pete who gets greedy after a while and wants more, more, more which is the sickness that egocentric sports personalities tend to contract). 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 27, 2013, 08:18:44 PM
Answer me this....If we aren't paying him what he is worth why didn't he leave at the end of his first contract or see it out and get a Bosman  to a bigger club with bigger wages ?
If we aren't paying him what he is worth why did he agree the contract he was happy enough to sign ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 08:22:29 PM
Malouda's wages would be well out of our reach.
Ince definitely should be a target right now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Big Sam come in for PO as well as Fulham and Wigan. Maybe Southampton as well who have just lost out on Coutinho. Reading aren't short of cash either. A bidding war would be very interesting indeed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 27, 2013, 08:25:43 PM
Malouda's wages would be well out of our reach.
Ince definitely should be a target right now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Big Sam come in for PO as well as Fulham and Wigan. Maybe Southampton as well who have just lost out on Coutinho. Reading aren't short of cash either. A bidding war would be very interesting indeed.

In principle I agree.

However, none of the above are that desperate for a striker. A striker who lost it on twitter last night. We"ll be lucky to get £2 mill for him this window, which is why I think we'll wait until the summer to get rid.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 27, 2013, 08:37:59 PM

Can't agree with you mate, if we take off the blue and white specs and the love of the club we'd all behave in the same way if it was the ONLY way of securing the move.



Sorry, no Blue & White specs just 25 years of working with contract law. The reason disputes between clubs never end in court is generally speaking settlements in terms of fees are greater than what could be obtained through breach of contract proceedings. QPR's current reported bid of £2m is one of the few situations where this would not be the case. If Odemwingie forces a move for less than £3m the club should sue him,his agent, QPR and Harry Redknapp for the difference.

Football is not competely divorced from the real world and contract law does apply as the few clubs that have tried to wriggle out of them have found to their cost.

   

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 27, 2013, 08:40:43 PM
In principle I agree.

However, none of the above are that desperate for a striker. A striker who lost it on twitter last night. We"ll be lucky to get £2 mill for him this window, which is why I think we'll wait until the summer to get rid.

Wigan, West Ham and Reading look pretty short of strikers at the moment with anything like PO's scoring record.  Wigan have expressed interest before. West Ham seem happy to spend and are in freefall. Just needs one of them to enter the bidding war with QPR...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 27, 2013, 08:49:07 PM
As he said it leaves him with nothing in hand. There is only a mega rich club in dire straights with a manager willing to break the bank NOW, in the summer he is back to square one if we don't offer him an improved contract, it smacks of small-time from Albion to me.

We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?

Sadly we are dealing in the insane world of football mate.

PO is worth what Jeremy Peace says he is worth while under contract to WBA. I'm not worried about him going on the cheap. If anything, we'll inflate the price now due to the public nature which QPR and PO have gone about this. I can't believe that anyone can have any sympathy with any overpaid brat that throws his dummy out the pram when he doesn't get his own way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 08:50:07 PM
Jacko, I'm sorry if I don't share your sentiment or sympathy for a bloke struggling on £40k a week and that he could get more elsewhere. Yes its a short career and everyone wants to earn as much as possible but thats a case of tough luck basically. He is extremely well paid and in a position that we all dream about.

He had the choice of signing his current deal or not signing and he would have been elsewhere by now, he chose to sign it.

He is extremely fortunate that at 33 years old when his current deal ends (if he is still here which he won't be) that he will not have to work again and will never have to worry about the next bill coming through the door or having to pay his mortgage.

When ex-players are having to sell their medals and memories to pay their bills and keep going to see a bloke like Pete acting like this is just disgraceful and for me personally cannot be defended. 

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 08:59:00 PM
Jacko, I'm sorry if I don't share your sentiment or sympathy for a bloke struggling on £40k a week and that he could get more elsewhere. Yes its a short career and everyone wants to earn as much as possible but thats a case of tough luck basically. He is extremely well paid and in a position that we all dream about.

He had the choice of signing his current deal or not signing and he would have been elsewhere by now, he chose to sign it.

He is extremely fortunate that at 33 years old when his current deal ends (if he is still here which he won't be) that he will not have to work again and will never have to worry about the next bill coming through the door or having to pay his mortgage.

When ex-players are having to sell their medals and memories to pay their bills and keep going to see a bloke like Pete acting like this is just disgraceful and for me personally cannot be defended.

It's because of this Odemwingie is acting like he is. Everyone always tries to put a real world feel on things like this so lets spin it around. Imagine being a top medical or financial specialist earning £500,000 a year from the age of 24/25 when they leave university to the age of 33 when through no fault of their own they find themselves out of work. For one reason or another they fail to find a new job and are on employment benefit for the next 30 years before retirement.

How would their lives be impacted, and as much has we dislike the idea how would the way of life they have become accustomed to be affected?

We are very idealistic as football fans, these people are not super heroes, they're fallible and human and I can say hand on heart if I was Peter Odemwingie and it was the only way to get the move I'd do exactly the same thing as him (assuming I'm not an Albion fan of course).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieheart on January 27, 2013, 09:07:00 PM
But surely the way to leave a club is like Greening.

Fulham came in we rejected, he gave his reasons on why he wanted to go, got his head down and the deal was done when Fulham came upto valuation.

Pete wants to go for more money than fine by me, I think QPR is an odd choice but hey it is upto him. However he is our asset and if a player wants to go I expect we will do more to grant his wish, but we do not have to give him away.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
No, i'm talking about the likes of Tommy Smith, at the top of their game for how many years ? won how many medals ?

Pete is fortunate he is playing now and not then.

Anyone who lives their life thinking if they did this they could have earned so much etc needs to concentrate on the here and now. He is extremely fortunate to live the lifestyle he is and have the money he has. I don't have any sympathy for anyone who cannot set themselves up for life on £2m a year. To go on he needs more to secure his financial future is just pure greed and if he doesn't have the money to secure the future then its bad money management and/ or bad advice.

Worst case scenario for him - At the end of his current deal in 2014 he will be free to go where he wants, no club will have to pay a fee and so more money can be used as a signing on fee to get his services.

I can excuse many things in life but greed and selfish attitudes especially because of that greed is not one of them .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 27, 2013, 09:11:57 PM
Jacko, I'm sorry if I don't share your sentiment or sympathy for a bloke struggling on £40k a week and that he could get more elsewhere. Yes its a short career ...
Short or not, it's not like his time at WBA is the only money-earning moment in his life. There are many options open to former footballers if they play their cards right. It's a big worldwide industry. And that doesn't even count the investment possibilities open to someone earning £40K a week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 09:13:59 PM
But surely the way to leave a club is like Greening.

Fulham came in we rejected, he gave his reasons on why he wanted to go, got his head down and the deal was done when Fulham came upto valuation.

Pete wants to go for more money than fine by me, I think QPR is an odd choice but hey it is upto him. However he is our asset and if a player wants to go I expect we will do more to grant his wish, but we do not have to give him away.

Agreed. The really fishy thing here, obviously PO's mental breakdown apart, is QPR's under hand behaviour. If they really are interested then pony up. They have the money and they know full well the worth of PO. I would add a million to PO's price if he were to go to QPR because of their disrespect.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 27, 2013, 09:15:49 PM
We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?


Why sign the contract in the first place then?!

If there were a host of club lining up with better wages when he signed his contract and he said "they're offering better, I'm joining them", I would be fine with that. But NOBODY forced him to sign a contract where it explicitly said how much he was going to be paid. You make it seem as if his wages have suddenly decreased.

The "man" (I use that term loosely) is a disgrace and I hope he never pulls on an Albion shirt again. I am dumbfounded at how anyone can defend him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 27, 2013, 09:17:25 PM
I kind of see what Jacko is getting at.

In the grand scheme of things, in terms of ability and track record, he would be on more than 40k a week at other clubs in the league(Not that this is a pittance by any means!!!!!)

Unfortunately for him and now for us, with us losing one of our best players, is that the club has a wage structure and do not have the financial banking of a club like QPR. I'm sure as a club we'd have loved to offered him an increase after another relatively successful season last year, but quite simply we can't really go higher thank 40k a week without ruining the club with players of a similar stature coming to the club then asking for a pay rise.

He's not an Albion fan which means he doesn't see the fuss in wanting to double his money in the latter years of his career. It was up to that point I had, in a way, sympathy with him...

However I can't help but feel a slight disdain towards him now which is a shame with all the performances he has put in. However his statement and then the tweets last night were absolutely farcical, some things are best left unsaid and to me, he has well and truly burned his bridges. I know some are willing to look past that and just concentrate on what he's done for us, but I am afraid I just can't do that and it seems like the majority of fans can't either.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieheart on January 27, 2013, 09:22:08 PM
Possibly correct in that we have had a bargain with £40k however I do not believe Odemwingie has put in enough performances this season to warrant a pay rise.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 27, 2013, 09:25:46 PM
Then if he had that much faith in his ability he would have turned his contract down and waited for a bigger club to come along and pay him what he thinks he is worth. He chose to sign the deal which gives him £40k a week

If he wants to go and play for that 'respected manager' and get his fifty pieces of silver then he has to get that club to stump up what we want for him, after all if he is worth the money they are reportedly offering him (which he obviously doesn't actually know because he hasn't had permission to talk to them  ::) ) then they will know that the fee will be higher than their offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 09:26:30 PM
Possibly correct in that we have had a bargain with £40k however I do not believe Odemwingie has put in enough performances this season to warrant a pay rise.

Yet from midfield he has as many goals as Long, a player many on here believe we should hold onto at all costs and build a side around, some quoting £15 million in a recent transfer thread.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 27, 2013, 09:35:17 PM
Yet from midfield he has as many goals as Long, a player many on here believe we should hold onto at all costs and build a side around, some quoting £15 million in a recent transfer thread.

Your comments are always very selective, you seem to think Odemwingie is to good for little old Albion.

What next, Brunt, Olsson, Mulumbu and Yacob demand an improved contract, I have no doubt you would say they deserve better.

The likes of Dorrans demands a move and use the same tactics as Odemwngie, would you support him?

No one player is bigger than the club, back down to Odemwingie and we could have a major problem on our hands.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 27, 2013, 09:35:51 PM
Yet from midfield he has as many goals as Long, a player many on here believe we should hold onto at all costs and build a side around, some quoting £15 million in a recent transfer thread.

You make a valid point, but you are disregarding the early season form of Long and his overall team contribution.

Odemwingie has deleted some of his twitter posts, even he knows he has gone way over the top, perhaps he is detecting back tracking from QPR, now that would be funny.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 27, 2013, 09:36:42 PM
and look what a "Great" owner QPR have.... and this is where PO is so desperate to play..


if it gets too hard, then quit

Premier League - Fernandes admits he could leave Rangers
Chairman Tony Fernandes has said he will leave QPR if he cannot turn around the Premier League strugglers



QPR are rooted to the foot of the table, five points adrift of safety, and were knocked out of the FA Cup following an embarrassing 4-2 home defeat to npower League One side MK Dons on Saturday.

Fernandes, who took over in August 2011, remains determined to get the west Londoners on the right track, but says if he cannot, he will step down.

The Malaysian businessman said on his Twitter account: "Attendance was great. Thanks to fans Everything worked. We will fix It. I'm still optimistic.

"Many fans attacking me. Doing our best. As I said we won't stop trying. As I have said many times I take all responsibility and will face the music.

"Always spirit up. If can't fix it I will be first to go."

Fernandes took over at QPR following their promotion to the top flight and has presided over three different managers during his time at the helm.

Neil Warnock was sacked last January and replaced by Mark Hughes, who was dismissed in November with Harry Redknapp named as his successor.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-fernandes-admits-leave-rangers-163103193.html (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-fernandes-admits-leave-rangers-163103193.html)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 09:41:46 PM
"According to his wiki page Fernandes' personal wealth is only $470 million. No way he can afford a yearly £30 to 50 million loss in wages or whatever QPR's losses will be (just thinking of the £50 million losses Villa had that forced even a billionaire like Randy Lerner to throw in the towel and start a drastic cutting operation)." [quoting myself from earlier in the thread]
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 27, 2013, 09:45:02 PM
Pete can delete all those tweets if he wants. The Birmingham mail has them all logged
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-striker-peter-1245995
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 27, 2013, 09:53:21 PM
Don't accept it because we didn't want to sell him would be the obvious answer. If we have a gentleman's agreement that he can go in the Summer then why accept a request now ?

Spot on.

Why would we sell one of our best players to a tinpot club like QPR ?   Aren't we trying to improve the squad rather than weaken it ??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 27, 2013, 09:55:50 PM
I see from the Daily Mail online that Fernandes is now saying he will walk away from QPR if he can't turn them around.   Never mind that he will have committed them to paying huge wages for years to come to a bunch of mercenaries.

This has "Portsmouth mark 2" written all over it.  And one common denominator - Harry Redknapp, yes the same Harry Redknapp who said after replacing Hughes that a club with average gates of 18,000 should not be paying big wages to players and that he didn't like to see club owners raped like that (or words to that effect).

QPR and Redknapp - you deserve each other.  Odemwingie - you will fit in there very well amongst the other mercenaries.

Love it if they went all Portsmouth !   Arry would be well gone by then and come our of it smelling of roses as usual.
Brace yourself for a week of hell with Arry playing the media non-stop as usual when the window closes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2013, 10:01:49 PM
TheJacko, how comes in the Olsson thread you said this:

I think Peace would be severely tested by a bid of seven million. Would say a lot about Olsson imo if he went there.

About Olsson going there, and yet in this case you believe its perfectly reasonable for Odemwingie to not only want to go there, but use any tactics necessary? He's not a slave, he signed a 40k a year contract (and this nonsense about finding himself out of work, he'll earn at least 3m by the end of his contract and still be able to command a big wage if he leaves on a free next year), no one forced him too.

He could just as well have done what Gera did and let his contract run down, instead of deciding to have his cake and eat it by signing a new contract and still expectign he be released from it whenever he wants regardless of the transfer fee. I mean how can you go on about him being such a good player, and then defend his tactics when the fee offered was 2m?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 27, 2013, 10:10:24 PM
TheJacko, how comes in the Olsson thread you said this:

About Olsson going there, and yet in this case you believe its perfectly reasonable for Odemwingie to not only want to go there, but use any tactics necessary? He's not a slave, he signed a 40k a year contract (and this nonsense about finding himself out of work, he'll earn at least 3m by the end of his contract and still be able to command a big wage if he leaves on a free next year), no one forced him too.

He could just as well have done what Gera did and let his contract run down, instead of deciding to have his cake and eat it by signing a new contract and still expectign he be released from it whenever he wants regardless of the transfer fee. I mean how can you go on about him being such a good player, and then defend his tactics when the fee offered was 2m?

I haven't once said he should be allowed to leave for two million but hey ho.

Re Olsson, he has constantly stated he would not leave unless it was to play at a higher level, hence my post. The same does not apply to Peter Odemwingie so I have no idea why you have quoted that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2013, 10:15:07 PM
No but you said you would do the same in his position which would be completely illogical unless you believe it to be a fair fee that the club is unfairly rejecting, as Odemwingie apparently does. Otherwise why such a strop over a rejected bid that's clearly never going to be accepted (Or for that matter, in the region of what would be accepted).

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 27, 2013, 10:16:22 PM
Pete can delete all those tweets if he wants. The Birmingham mail has them all logged
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-striker-peter-1245995

Was talking about this today - once he's sent them online then there is a record - he's effectively published those views and opinions so must stand by them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 27, 2013, 10:21:48 PM
Can't wait for him to leave. Never want to see him put our shirt on again. And to think I've seen people trying to stick up and defend him on here and twitter is just as shocking!


I guess your looking forward to seeing Markus Rosenberg take his place ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 10:22:08 PM
Was talking about this today - once he's sent them online then there is a record - he's effectively published those views and opinions so must stand by them.

Heh, I bet he has had it around the ears about those tweets from anyone 'sane' around him, including his wife (if she has any sense). Must have felt great for him in his inflated ego bubble writing those tweets, not so sure how he feels once reality sets in and he realizes the consequences.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: glosterbaggie on January 27, 2013, 10:30:07 PM
Heh, I bet he has had it around the ears about those tweets from anyone 'sane' around him, including his wife (if she has any sense). Must have felt great for him in his inflated ego bubble writing those tweets, not so sure how he feels once reality sets in and he realizes the consequences.
rs not so.
I think the bizarre situation will be sorted out in JPs office tomorrow.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 10:32:40 PM

I guess your looking forward to seeing Markus Rosenberg take his place ?
If it wasnt for Odemwingie then we wouldnt even still be in the Premier League,
I wish these Albion fans would get a life and stop slagging him.
Everyone knows footballers are not the brightest sparks and I bet most of them cant even wipe
their own arses.
Iam almost 100% sure that by tomorrow we`ll see another statement saying how sorry he is
and that he cant wait for the Everton game.


Maybe not for the Everton game but the game after most likely. For myself I believe PO needs a reality check and a slap by reality to wake up from his ego coma, for his own good. I feel mostly sorry for him tbh, I think he has personal problems unrelated to football. It's sad to see someone who could be loved and appreciated and have a stable and healthy working relationship with the club and fans succumb to personal insecurities and greed. It's not as if he is starving and in desperate need for more money. By any reasonable measure he has more than enough as it is but no, he is so greedy and insecure he pisses on thousands of people who only want to support him and wish him every success and on his employers who like wise wish him to succeed and have a brilliant career for the club.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 27, 2013, 10:45:53 PM
rs not so.
I think the bizarre situation will be sorted out in JPs office tomorrow.

Hehe, I'd like to see a video of THAT conversation on the stupid official site  ;D Would make a nice contrast to the usual suuuuuuuuper sweeeeet positive bullpoo we are force fed by the club.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 27, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
after initial anger towards him i now feel theres still a chance he could have a future here, look at how man city turned it around with tevez. As long as Odemwingie nows he needs to do a lot to win us back in the way he thrives off.

I now, after aying i didnt wanna see him in a shirt again, hoping that something can be worked out, and i'm also wondering if he's mentally stable!

At the end of the day he is arguably the most talented player on our books, and i said last week he's gotta play up front, if we're paying him, he should start, and ill support him if i can see he's putting the effort in.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 27, 2013, 10:55:35 PM
Hehe, I'd like to see a video of THAT conversation on the stupid official site  ;D Would make a nice contrast to the usual suuuuuuuuper sweeeeet positive bullpoo we are force fed by the club.

Damn right JP will sort this. A video of Jeremy Peace staring at Pete in silence until he deletes his twitter, apologises to every season ticket holder in person, and volunteers to let Jonas and Gareth kick him senseless? I'd pay the Albion World subscription for that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 27, 2013, 10:56:07 PM
after initial anger towards him i now feel theres still a chance he could have a future here, look at how man city turned it around with tevez. As long as Odemwingie nows he needs to do a lot to win us back in the way he thrives off.

I now, after aying i didnt wanna see him in a shirt again, hoping that something can be worked out, and i'm also wondering if he's mentally stable!

At the end of the day he is arguably the most talented player on our books, and i said last week he's gotta play up front, if we're paying him, he should start, and ill support him if i can see he's putting the effort in.

I dont know what your thinking, he's a goner. No way back, finished, kaput, over, position untenable.
JP wont let him get away with it. PO is history.
Weve had this rubbish off him every transfer window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 27, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
I still maintain the reaction to all of this is too focussed on both the moral and financial aspects. I saw a chink in his external veneer with a post he has made this evening. Peter hasnt commited a crime here rather just spoken out and expressed unhappiness at certain things either real or symptomatic of wider issues. His only mistake is that it might have perhaps been better if he had spoken to his employers first.
He is a human being with imperfections like all of us. I think the fact that he can express his feelings is healthy and shouldnt be frowned upon. If he is a man of integrity then he should rightly apologise to his employers for his lack of consideration and hopefully the club will accept that and try to offer support to resolve the issues. As a supporter I will continue to get behind him because as far as I can see he has always tried to give his best on the pitch. Wonder if social media wasnt around whether this would have become the issue it now appears?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 27, 2013, 11:55:49 PM
I'm not sure what will happen. Having kept up with and read the comments on here, I can see different points of view.

I can't see JP letting him get off lightly with this, but after all, the end of the window is only a few days away, so will a late deal be met with another club? After this, I'm not so sure. I guess there's a possibility of him being loaned out until the end of the season.

Has he burned his bridges? I think he has, but no doubt if he publicly apologizes I'm sure the majority will be back to brown nosing him again.

I just can't understand his logic. If Man U, Man city, Arsenal etc were fighting over him, I guess you could expect the odd bit of self-praise, but no one wants him (certainly not a 'big' team) and that's why he has remained at WBA for so long. He's a decent PL player, playing for a decent PL team, but he isn't a world class player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 12:17:43 AM
Peter is a world class player, if he was 2 years younger and if he didn't have issues, he'd be off. I didn't really understand why Roy was so irritated with Pete, since we're never given the full story, but now I understand (the truth will out anyway sooner or later).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 28, 2013, 12:20:01 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9830433/Queens-Park-Rangers-are-preparing-an-improved-3.25m-bid-for-West-Bromwich-Albions-Peter-Odemwingie.html

If this is to be believed, QPR are upping their bid to £3.25m. )Should be at close to £5m by Thursday!).   QPR have also said Mackie can go for an estimated £3m, with Norwich and Reading believed to be interested.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 12:25:35 AM
So QPR value PO the same as Mackie, who they are prepared to let go? Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 28, 2013, 12:29:20 AM
So QPR value PO the same as Mackie, who they are prepared to let go? Ridiculous.

Indeed - it doesn't stake up.  £5m is the minimum we should accept.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 12:39:21 AM
Indeed - it doesn't stake up.  £5m is the minimum we should accept.

Not in January, and especially not to a desperate tin pot club that is wetting all over us. I'd demand the same price they payed for Zamora last year (£6 million) + plus 2 million if they survive, minimum, even that feels cheap. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 28, 2013, 12:54:19 AM
Pete can delete all those tweets if he wants. The Birmingham mail has them all logged
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-striker-peter-1245995
Holy rubbish. Another Twerp bites the dust.

If there's one lesson to be learned from all this, it's that when you're stressed out, drunk on Guinness, breaking up with someone, or a footballer named Peter Odemwingie, you should stay the **** off Twitter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TLMS17 on January 28, 2013, 02:01:47 AM

I guess your looking forward to seeing Markus Rosenberg take his place ?
Not really but Pete moans because hes played out of position. Rosenberg hardly gets on the pitch yet he doesnt bitch about it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 28, 2013, 04:19:24 AM
Not really but Pete moans because hes played out of position. Rosenberg hardly gets on the pitch yet he doesnt bitch about it

How do you know?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 28, 2013, 04:49:24 AM
How do you know?

If he does he doesn't do it publicly. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things, I'm just surprised that some have stuck up for Odemwingie after his twitter outbursts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 28, 2013, 05:18:23 AM
after initial anger towards him i now feel theres still a chance he could have a future here, look at how man city turned it around with tevez. As long as Odemwingie nows he needs to do a lot to win us back in the way he thrives off.

I now, after aying i didnt wanna see him in a shirt again, hoping that something can be worked out, and i'm also wondering if he's mentally stable!

At the end of the day he is arguably the most talented player on our books, and i said last week he's gotta play up front, if we're paying him, he should start, and ill support him if i can see he's putting the effort in.

Some people take an awful lot to be offended.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 28, 2013, 05:59:43 AM
If he does he doesn't do it publicly. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things, I'm just surprised that some have stuck up for Odemwingie after his twitter outbursts.

I think a couple of us have been able to distance ourselves from "planet Albion" to be fair, he has not said anything against the fans in my opinion, and it's nice to have interaction with top level players even if it isn't what we want to hear. I think Odemwingie has got "a bit in the bank" with us fans (or should have) for the way the team have performed since his arrival. I am certain we'd have gone down in 10/11 without him and possibly even last season too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 28, 2013, 06:55:46 AM
How do you know?
Thats exactly the point if he isn't happy with the situation at least its kept in house.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 28, 2013, 07:52:01 AM
I find it impossible to generate any venom towards the man - I can't even think of the right words for him... childish? a buffoon?  sociopathic?  self-deluding?  Whatever.  Cheerio Pete, and thanks for the goals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 07:55:57 AM
So QPR value PO the same as Mackie, who they are prepared to let go? Ridiculous.



Totally agree, outrageous comparesson
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 28, 2013, 08:16:07 AM
If he does he doesn't do it publicly. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things, I'm just surprised that some have stuck up for Odemwingie after his twitter outbursts.

That is that way to do it, as I'm sure lots of players would moan behind doors about not plasying enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on January 28, 2013, 08:28:42 AM
Been sick and tired of Odemwingie and his agents pimping him around every transfer window. He's good, but not so good that he can keep taking the pee out of the working people that pay his wages.

If someone working for me was constantly threatening to leave if they couldn't get more money, or they couldn't do exactly what they wanted at work, I would tell them to grow up and get over it or just do us all a favour and leave. We have had a version of his nonsense at every transfer window since he came to Albion.

And if an employee tweeted the sort of anti-organisation twaddle he came out with, they would find themselves outside on the car park with their belongings in a box.

Odemwingie is a self regarding, juvenile, odious individual who has taken the mick ceaselessly since he came here and needs a dose of reality really rather badly, and you know what? I'd take Rosenberg over him every time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BrummieBaggie68 on January 28, 2013, 08:46:08 AM

We aren't paying him what he is worth!! I don't get what is hard about this?


I don't get how you can't understand that signing the contract that he did when he did was the equivalent of taking out a fixed rate mortgage or buying a financial future: he traded (then) current certainty against future uncertainty.

At the time he signed his last contract extension the agreed wages reflected what he believed he was 'worth' at that time. Otherwise he did not need to sign. You may think he is "worth" more than Dzeko and Walcott, because he has scored more Prem goals in the same time period, but he is not. Economic worth is determined by what people will pay, and nobody has ever paid megabucks for Odemwingie. He is not a world star at a little club. He is about our level. Even now, it is not a big club that wants him, and they are not offering big bucks or probably even particularly big wages. They're just offering more than he is currently getting.

And he ALREADY SOLD US HIS RIGHT TO GET MORE MONEY UNTIL SUMMER 2014, and we already gave him the money. It was always the case that during the period of the contract, somebody else could decide they wanted to pay him more, thus increasing his "market" price. The crucial thing that you seem not to understand is that FOREGOING THE FUTURE OPPORTUNITY, DURING THE CONTRACT PERIOD, TO SELL HIMSELF AT THIS NEW PRICE, IS A FUNDAMENTAL COMPONENT OF WHAT HE WAS/IS BEING PAID FOR IN THE CONTRACT AT THE OLD PRICE.

£40k wasn't just the price agreed for him to play football for a week for West Bromwich Albion. It was the price agreed for him to play football for WBA, and nobody else except Nigeria, every week until 2014, however much anybody else offers and whatever else changes in the interim.

The club, for its part, agreed to pay him at that rate (more than anybody else in the world would pay him at that time) for that period however badly he played, however long he was injured and so on.

It is (exactly) like taking out a fixed rate mortgage which seems like excellent value for several years, then when the variable rate drops saying "hey, this is not fair, I'm being ripped off", even though you have already profited from years at the relatively cheaper rate.

Pete took a calculated risk, as did the club. He chose to sell his right to leave until 2014, for a lot of money and the security that bought. He can't sell it again now to Tony Fernandes just because he feels like it, because he's already sold it to Jeremy Peace, and been paid, and bought the Bentley.

I think it's perfectly reasonable that he should want to leave for more money. But (notwithstanding his Twitter proclamation) you can't always do what you want. And you can't often have your cake and eat it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 28, 2013, 08:52:09 AM
My point is we, both as a club and in the majority of fans don't realise what we've got and in tangible terms he is WORTH more than we are able to offer him. I accept he needs to understand we should get a decent price but after the fees for Davies and Kamara we know Peace drives an extremely hard bargain.
 

I'm saying if we aren't willing to offer him what QPR are then we need to sell him to them for a fair price. Not £2 million, but not £11 or 12 million either.

He shoudln't of signed a contract then, a contract that has 18 months left.

If he's worth it, QPR will stump up an acceptable fee. If not, he's going nowhere.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 28, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
Most posters on here seem to under the impression that Odemwingie is solely responsible for this palaver. How do we know that the club haven't been breaking promises to him left right and centre and he's finally had enough (which his posts seem to suggest.)

The way Odemwingie had come out on twitter is stupid (and he appears to have been pi**ed at the time) and obviously not the way he should have conducted business but maybe he thought this was his only course of action.

There is more to this than meets the eye....... but we'll probably never find out.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 28, 2013, 09:01:10 AM
I think a couple of us have been able to distance ourselves from "planet Albion" to be fair, he has not said anything against the fans in my opinion, and it's nice to have interaction with top level players even if it isn't what we want to hear. I think Odemwingie has got "a bit in the bank" with us fans (or should have) for the way the team have performed since his arrival. I am certain we'd have gone down in 10/11 without him and possibly even last season too.

maybe if you distanced yourself from Planet Odemwingie you may also see things differently.

He has plenty of cash in the bank as well which is why his actions are so insulting to the majority of folk.

Whether we would have gone down without him is all ifs and buts and also an insult to the rest of the squad to suggest we are a one man band. Yes we might have done but we didn't s its all hypothetical, he has contributed but Peter Odemwinge is not the be all and end all of this club, he is an employee who has made a contribution in the course of doing the job that he in his mind and seemingly a small minority of others is so underpaid for doing so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 28, 2013, 09:02:27 AM
Most posters on here seem to under the impression that Odemwingie is solely responsible for this palaver. How do we know that the club haven't been breaking promises to him left right and centre and he's finally had enough (which his posts seem to suggest.)

The way Odemwingie had come out on twitter is stupid (and he appears to have been pi**ed at the time) and obviously not the way he should have conducted business but maybe he thought this was his only course of action.

There is more to this than meets the eye....... but we'll probably never find out.

According to his tweets the club agreed he could go in the coming Summer, he seemed happy with that until 'Arry and co came calling with their fifty peices of silver.

He complains he was not told of other enquiries, why does he need to know if Wigan or Newcastle made derisory offers ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 09:11:06 AM
I'm hoping we have a statement from the Club today after the weekends events.

I doubt we'll get anything though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 09:13:14 AM
What time does the transfer deadline end on Thursday.It will probably be announced 5 minutes after.
whats the betting Sky will be there with all the annoying kids in the backround like you get at Stoke
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 28, 2013, 09:13:49 AM
Now it all makes sense.....

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-and-very-rare-1985-86-QPR-home-Shirt-/00/s/MTQ5OFgxNjAw/$T2eC16R,!)0E9s37F0gVBQenY3fvLQ~~60_35.JPG)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 09:16:47 AM
What time does the transfer deadline end on Thursday.It will probably be announced 5 minutes after.
whats the betting Sky will be there with all the annoying kids in the backround like you get at Stoke

Not sure, it has been 11pm and middnight in the past.

Doesn't matter with old arry though, he seems to get them through after deadline anyway.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 28, 2013, 09:20:10 AM
Not sure, it has been 11pm and middnight in the past.

Doesn't matter with old arry though, he seems to get them through after deadline anyway.

The dog has to go round the block at 11 in his diamond studded collar and lead, so they have to give him until half past.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 28, 2013, 09:26:44 AM
Now it all makes sense.....

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-and-very-rare-1985-86-QPR-home-Shirt-/00/s/MTQ5OFgxNjAw/$T2eC16R,!)0E9s37F0gVBQenY3fvLQ~~60_35.JPG)

That is a very old shirt, was Odemwingie even born then?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 09:29:24 AM
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-lepkowski--on-west-brom-1248030

Decent from CL and couldnt agree more
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 09:30:12 AM
WBAFCofficial?@WBAFCofficial

Albion have turned down a second, improved offer from QPR for striker Peter Odemwingie #wba Full story: http://bit.ly/VJoBq2
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 28, 2013, 09:30:43 AM
Lets hope he's turned up for training today and hes been slapped across the face with an envelope with his fine inside and told to train with the kids.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 09:35:14 AM
Club statement:

Quote
ALBION REBUFF SECOND QPR BID FOR PETER

Club again insist they have 'no need or desire' to sell core players

ALBION have turned down a second offer from QPR for Peter Odemwingie.

The striker handed in a transfer request on Friday, which was immediately rejected.

Sporting & technical director (designate) Richard Garlick said: "QPR have made a second, improved offer for Peter, which we have turned down.

"As we have repeatedly stated, we have no need or desire to sell our core players.

"Since we turned down Peter's transfer request, he has made his position clear in a statement to the media and via his personal Twitter account.

"This matter will be dealt with internally."

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-rebuff-second-qpr-bid-for-peter-623163.aspx

Dealt with how exactly? Where are real news reporters when you need them?

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 28, 2013, 09:41:10 AM
I think a couple of us have been able to distance ourselves from "planet Albion" to be fair, he has not said anything against the fans in my opinion, and it's nice to have interaction with top level players even if it isn't what we want to hear. I think Odemwingie has got "a bit in the bank" with us fans (or should have) for the way the team have performed since his arrival. I am certain we'd have gone down in 10/11 without him and possibly even last season too.

We'll never know if we would have gone down or not, as an educated guess I will agree though we probably would although I'm not so sure about last year.

It's simple for me, he was happy enough to sign the long term contract we offered him, he can't complain too much once he's committed to that time. If QPR make an acceptable offer we will allow him to go, I'm not bothered about the transfer request its the outbursts on twitter that have got to me and have shown his true colours. If he has felt like this for so long he shouldn't have signed the deal he did.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 28, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
Club statement:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-rebuff-second-qpr-bid-for-peter-623163.aspx

Dealt with how exactly? Where are real news reporters when you need them?

"Internally"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 28, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Club statement:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-rebuff-second-qpr-bid-for-peter-623163.aspx

Dealt with how exactly? Where are real news reporters when you need them?


Following on from Richard Garlick's statement I now expect Odemwingie to remain at WBA for the rest of the season, if he doesn't then I have no trust in anything Garlick says in the future as he makes it clear the club is not interested in selling core players.

As for odemwingie, I'd keep him at the club until the summer and just let him rot. People do not learn if they are not taught a lesson and Odemwingie definitely needs teaching one he's a petulant little baby there is a right way and a wrong way to go about things and he only seems to know the wrong way.

I don't understand him, he's got enough money as it is so why want to join QPR a smaller. nothing club? It doesn't make sense. London mainly is a dive and there's not much there that Birmingham 4 miles away doesn't have. It can ONLY be greed wanting more and more money. That sort of attitude makes me sick.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 09:46:51 AM
"Internally"

Exactly. A golden opportunity for a 'scoop' by a hungry reporter. But they all look tame to me, no real journalism around these days sadly, the journo's just feed us club news feeds in various forms. They are essentially a pr outlet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 09:47:27 AM
By the sounds of things there are only 2 ways to deal with P£t£r

1. Turn down a new bid from QPR
2. Fine him 2 weeks wages so he loses the one thing that seems more precious to him than anything else

As it appears both of the above have happened then im guessing he is sweating big time that he is gone by Thursday
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 09:50:14 AM
We'll never know if we would have gone down or not, as an educated guess I will agree though we probably would although I'm not so sure about last year.

It's simple for me, he was happy enough to sign the long term contract we offered him, he can't complain too much once he's committed to that time. If QPR make an acceptable offer we will allow him to go, I'm not bothered about the transfer request its the outbursts on twitter that have got to me and have shown his true colours. If he has felt like this for so long he shouldn't have signed the deal he did.

I completely agree. PO made his bed. How much of a Princess on the Pea can he be?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 09:50:44 AM

Following on from Richard Garlick's statement I now expect Odemwingie to remain at WBA for the rest of the season, if he doesn't then I have no trust in anything Garlick says in the future as he makes it clear the club is not interested in selling core players.

As for odemwingie, I'd keep him at the club until the summer and just let him rot. People do not learn if they are not taught a lesson and Odemwingie definitely needs teaching one he's a petulant little baby there is a right way and a wrong way to go about things and he only seems to know the wrong way.

I don't understand him, he's got enough money as it is so why want to join QPR a smaller. nothing club? It doesn't make sense. London mainly is a dive and there's not much there that Birmingham 4 miles away doesn't have. It can ONLY be greed wanting more and more money. That sort of attitude makes me sick.
Problem there is its a lose lose situation for Albion, he picks up a futher £1m from us in wages in that time for 'rotting' and his price plummits in the summer too possibly costing us another £1m plus, it makes sense to get rid for top price now unfortunately, Garlick will know this and hopefully he now has an iron in the fire to replace even if only a loan deal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 09:50:59 AM
The Moose on Talksport has just said we have turned down a second bid of 3 million and they want 3 million for Mackie.Do one Arry your having a laugh
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 28, 2013, 09:53:42 AM
Problem there is its a lose lose situation for Albion, he picks up a futher £1m from us in wages in that time for 'rotting' and his price plummits in the summer too possibly costing us another £1m plus, it makes sense to get rid for top price now unfortunately, Garlick will know this and hopefully he now has an iron in the fire to replace even if only a loan deal.


It is the precedent it sets to other players though both present and future i.e. you do not hold the club to ransom.

I'd rather lose a bit of money on Odemwingie and gain in the long run via the deterent the clubs actions set.

If we don't take a stand then other players will follow Odemwingies lead.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 09:55:37 AM
Whats the big issue with us loosing a few million.I would rather we stand firm, the club can more than afford it.Its about time Players and agents were put in their place
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
The Moose on Talksport has just said we have turned down a second bid of 3 million and they want 3 million for Mackie.Do one Arry your having a laugh

Well, by asking £3 million for Mackie QPR have set PO's value, they know full well PO is worth more than double the fee of Mackie. I expect 'Arry to cave in on Thursday and pay £7+ million plus for PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Well, by asking £3 million for Mackie QPR have set PO's value, they know full well PO is worth more than double the fee of Mackie. I expect 'Arry to cave in on Thursday and pay £7+ million plus for PO.

I'd snap their hands off for £7 mill.

£5mill plus £2mill if they stop up will do me fine.

Anything less and he stays.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
What about 3 million and a couple of their players?Mackie and Hoillet
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: superkev on January 28, 2013, 10:02:54 AM
 £2m for Wood and £4m for Odenwhingie then cough up another £4m and bid £10m for Lukaku =the future
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 28, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
What about 3 million and a couple of their players?


Like who? They are either sh*t or have bad attitude. I wouldn't want one single player from QPR.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 10:03:53 AM
£2m for Wood and £4m for Odenwhingie then cough up another £4m and bid £10m for Lukaku =the future



Wages.How much is Lukaku on
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 28, 2013, 10:04:48 AM
Mackie and Hoilett - Come on, no way!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Remember QPR is the club drowning here, to them PO is the golden life line. We only stand to lose a bit of money, they are fighting for their Prem survival. They have taken a rotten approach smearing us, we don't have to do them any favours whatsoever. I just cannot see JP being soft on this issue, when is he ever? We know they have lots of money if nothing else. We will take QPR to the cleaners, or PO stays until the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 10:07:16 AM
Remember QPR is the club drowning here, to them PO is the golden life line. We only stand to lose a bit of money, they are fighting for their Prem survival. They have taken a rotten approach smearing us, we don't have to do them any favours whatsoever. I just cannot see JP being soft on this issue, when is he ever? We know they have lots of money if nothing else. We will take QPR to the cleaners, or PO stays until the summer.

I hope you're right!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 28, 2013, 10:07:43 AM
£2m for Wood and £4m for Odenwhingie then cough up another £4m and bid £10m for Lukaku =the future

Some how after paying 18million for him 2 years ago, and with him being one of the best teenagers around I doubt anything under 30million would even make Chelsea consider. Dont think people realise the potentail of this kid. He is definatley in Chelsea's long term plans. Not a prayer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
Mackie and Hoilett - Come on, no way!


+ 3 million of course.Remember apparently Mackie is worth 3 million :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on January 28, 2013, 10:10:26 AM

+ 3 million of course.Remember apparently Mackie is worth 3 million :D


To be honest mate I wouldn't have him for nothing. There is absolutely nothing to gain by filling our squad with average / Championship players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 10:10:26 AM
£2m for Wood and £4m for Odenwhingie then cough up another £4m and bid £10m for Lukaku =the future

We'll be the laughing stock of the Prem giving our best players away for peanuts. Seriously £6 million combined for Wood and PO is downright shocking return. We will seriously loose face if we don't get a decent return on PO in this window. With decent I mean more than QPR payed for Zamora as PO is by miles the better player. Otherwise we will look weak and spineless and be an easy target for other clubs and have no end of trouble retaining and signing players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JDWest_Brom on January 28, 2013, 10:18:13 AM
They paid around £4 million for Zamora in the last January Transfer Window. So I don't expect Odemwingie to go for any less than £5 million. Even then I wouldn't let him go unless we can get a replacement in for him.

No doubt we'll sell him right at the death of the transfer window and we won't have signed anybody.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 28, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
Club statement:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/albion-rebuff-second-qpr-bid-for-peter-623163.aspx

Dealt with how exactly? Where are real news reporters when you need them?



This isn't QPR or Wigan where our staff go around giving opinions about absolutely sodding everything. We will find out exactly what will happen in due time. I wouldn't want 'real news reporters' around the club at the time, we will only hear half truths, speculation and make this messier. 'Internally' dealt with means 'not over twitter', or read into it 'not the Peter Odemwingie way'.

Agree with others posted here; when he signed his contract he got his improved terms following a season he helped us survive. EVERY window he appears to kick up a fuss and NO good teams have made serious bids for him. QPR are dire and to think they have Mackie rated at 3m they want to let get, and value Odemwingie at less than that? I'd say to them that if they value Mackie higher, keep him.

He has tried to force the clubs hand but kicking off, clearly not a well man, and he unfortunately has given us fewer options than we would like. I am slowly 'getting' Odemwingie, in that YES it is for money, but it's to secure a future he is not confident he will have the chance to in the summer. He is guaranteed more money now (and how he knows what he will be getting I don't know as nobody should speak to him without our permission) even though he will very much likely take a pay cut when they go down.

In the grand scheme of things QPR would want him to help keep them up - and should pay big money for that. If they and Odemwingie himself feel that this signing will keep them in the league, he's worth a damn sight more than £2.5m right? And some people have suggested some incentive if he keeps them up? That doesn't benefit us in the slightest; we lose our player regardless of if he keeps them up, we just get paid more if we have to see him again next season.

With regards what we should do with him I'm stumped. He is contacted to us, in terms he agreed on, until summer 2014. He should, under the conditions of his contract, only leave should the valuation for him from us be met. He has worked himself up so much over false reasons that he's had his outburst and rants and made a pigs ear of it all. If he WAS unhappy with his position here anything other than a week ago, he should have said prior or at the start of the window, not 5 days from the end. He wants more money, ok, but last year and this year (cue the Odem-love-in crew saying 'but he's out of position!') he's not doing enough to warrant a higher pay rise from us. His goals last year though enjoyable, came in a handful of games. 10 goals over separate games is grea and yes he scored a hattrick at the molineux but if he hadn't in theory we could have won it 2-1 without him. He goes through spates of sheer brilliance then next week animosity. He isn't worth more wages, but he IS worth a transfer fee.

Now it was said before that 30 goals is a great tally for the last 2 and half seasons and that's correct. And so he MAY be worth more than 40k a week to us but we will not pay him more as since he's been on that (and happy to sign that contract) he's not been AS essential and certainly not our saviour. But in his essence he is a goal scorer and as such should command a higher price than they are offering; this is the time of year Carroll went for £35m (scored less than Pete) and Torres went for £50m (and scored less than Pete). Now I'm not suggesting that's anywhere near what we should get from him, but he is worth categorically more than 2.5m and as such we keep him until we get our offer, simple as.

IMO if QPR don't meet our demands he stays at the club, in the reserves, and is made to train in kit that doesn't bear the clubs emblem. He puts a single foot wrong, he gets fined, doesn't turn up to training, fined. We have put aside 40k a week for him for the duration of his contact so it won't put us under financial pressure to do so, although yes it may be a waste. But he needs to learn. In principle if we give in for less than our asking price, for a player we deem essential, after all this palava, then expect other players we value to do the same thing. We cannot be held ransom by Arry and his band of bell-ends. IF we knew Odemwingies wished to secure his future because we had no long term plan for him BEFORE he went mental then I feel the situation would have gone better. But as it stands he DIDN'T express a desire to leave until the 25th of January, he's had his breakdown and he deserves to be treated with the disrespect he dishes out by the shovel-load.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Statham4england on January 28, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
We'll be the laughing stock of the Prem giving our best players away for peanuts. Seriously £6 million combined for Wood and PO is downright shocking return. We will seriously loose face if we don't get a decent return on PO in this window. With decent I mean more than QPR payed for Zamora as PO is by miles the better player. Otherwise we will look weak and spineless and be an easy target for other clubs and have no end of trouble retaining and signing players.
I wonder what the fall out would be should PO go amongst the rest of the squad? Is he a popular member of the squad, I wonder? Popular enough for him to trigger a mini exodus?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 28, 2013, 10:26:10 AM
I could be completely wrong here but doesnt the Russian and Turkish transfer windows (or somewhere like that) finish after January, they are in February some point i think.

If that is the case, even in he doesnt go to QPR i wonder if his agent will be straight onto Ruben Kazan or another rich russian team and offer his services if he is that desperate to get away, and they probably would pay what we want, he said he nearly went to Ruben Kazan last year and i think whoever waves the biggest pay packet he will go, if there is a transfer window in Hawaii he would probably say he wants to go there, and the manager is a coach he has always wanted to play for!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on January 28, 2013, 10:26:54 AM
Think its a simple situation to be honest.

QPR enquired about PO and put a 'test the water' bid at 2million. Rejected.

Probably then spoke to this agent who confirmed he would be interested in the move, PO kicks off.

QPR then think they can get him for a bid slightly higher than their first bid but less than what they actually would pay for him.

We stand firm, Garlick calls the bluff and says we dont need to sell him.

QPR come in on transfer deadline day with an offer of 5million and 1 million add on if they stay up.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 10:32:01 AM
Think its a simple situation to be honest.

QPR enquired about PO and put a 'test the water' bid at 2million. Rejected.

Probably then spoke to this agent who confirmed he would be interested in the move, PO kicks off.

QPR then think they can get him for a bid slightly higher than their first bid but less than what they actually would pay for him.

We stand firm, Garlick calls the bluff and says we dont need to sell him.

QPR come in on transfer deadline day with an offer of 5million and 1 million add on if they stay up.


Thats pretty much spot on
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 28, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
The only reason we should ask for more money if they stay up is if the original price before that matches our estimation. And if I'm honest they've made their bed so they should lie in it; if Odemwingie is so confident he will save them, demand a higher fee. I don't want anything to make us hope those toss pots stay up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 28, 2013, 10:53:45 AM
If QPR come in with an offer of 7.5 million or above, he can go anything less than that the greedy git stays, end of. I really wish that QPR would go like Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 28, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
If we cave into him now then my big worry is that other contract players may follow this unsavoury exit method. I hope Odemwhinger does go, but only on our terms, and I also hope that we sign up a replacement in this window. We are on a terrible run and although we should be safe, we can't count our chickens until those extra six points are in the bag.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 11:21:31 AM
If JP can get in excess of £4m for Ellington then Pete aint going anywhere for £3m!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 11:29:35 AM
28/01/2013
by David McIntyre
Harry Redknapp claims there is little chance of QPR signing Brede Hangeland or Jonas Olsson this week.

The Rangers boss would like to land both players but recently had a bid for West Brom defender Olsson rejected.

And he says he does not believe Fulham will listen to pre-deadline offers for Hangeland, whose contract expires at the end of the season.

Redknapp said: “I’d like to have both of them but the clubs don’t want to sell them. I don’t see them being possible – I wouldn’t have thought so.”

Fulham have shown an interest in Olsson, who is keen to move to London, while West Ham are monitoring the situation.

Meanwhile, West Brom have rejected a second bid from QPR for Peter Odemwonga despite the forward publicly making it clear that he wants to move to Loftus Road.

“It’s a difficult situation for West Brom. The whole situation has been a bit too public, but that’s not our doing,” said Redknapp.




Its not there doing eh
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 11:34:10 AM
Why is it though when things are going very well at the Albion some clown tries to spoil it?

I don't know if I am more angry at arry' or Pete.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 28, 2013, 11:36:52 AM
Why is it though when things are going very well at the Albion some clown tries to spoil it?

I don't know if I am more angry at arry' or Pete.
It,s happened before and it will happen again, money is ruining football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 28, 2013, 11:42:41 AM

Following on from Richard Garlick's statement I now expect Odemwingie to remain at WBA for the rest of the season, if he doesn't then I have no trust in anything Garlick says in the future as he makes it clear the club is not interested in selling core players.

As for odemwingie, I'd keep him at the club until the summer and just let him rot.

If he rots in the reserves then he ceases to be a core player and I can't see how he can get anywhere near the side following what's happened. Apart from anything else, it would send out the wrong message to the rest of the squad.

Therefore, I'm not quite sure what Garlick's trying to say, apart from being careful not to say anything which implies our bargaining position has been damaged by all of this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 11:51:56 AM
If he rots in the reserves then he ceases to be a core player and I can't see how he can get anywhere near the side following what's happened. Apart from anything else, it would send out the wrong message to the rest of the squad.

Therefore, I'm not quite sure what Garlick's trying to say, apart from being careful not to say anything which implies our bargaining position has been damaged by all of this.

Look what City did with Tevez. You don't cave in to crybabies, if you do your whole position is hopeless ever after. We'd only receive lowball offers for our players and nobody would want to join our joke outfit.

'Arry is a giant POS, the only thing we can do is take him to the cleaners and deal with PO internally very strictly.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggiejohn on January 28, 2013, 12:11:30 PM
If he rots in the reserves then he ceases to be a core player and I can't see how he can get anywhere near the side following what's happened. Apart from anything else, it would send out the wrong message to the rest of the squad.

Therefore, I'm not quite sure what Garlick's trying to say, apart from being careful not to say anything which implies our bargaining position has been damaged by all of this.

It's a really tricky one politically isn't it?

On the one hand, you dont want to send out a message that dissent will get a successful outcome (to PO).

On the other hand, if the club did sell for, say £4million, & take a saving on his wages until the summer, they could expect to accumulate around  £5million.
Letting him rot in the reserves until the summer would cost the club around £1million, can't really see that being an option.

I suspect, & again following Richard Garlick's statement, that they may try to reach a compromise agreement, which would involve a public apology from Odemwingie, & a promise to review Odemwingies position in the summer.

Before Odemwingies outburst over the weekend, I think there may have been a political route to him leaving, which would given all parties a win-win, it's difficult to see how they can get that now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hunsletbaggie on January 28, 2013, 12:15:46 PM
   They will come back with a 3rd offer on Thursday lets just get rid!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 12:19:01 PM
'Arry will pay our price in the last hour of the window.

'Arry's head would instantly implode then self-immolate if he didn't do a couple of big deals the last couple of hours in the window. He's a wheeler-dealer addict. JP will play a blinder again. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gavinrussell on January 28, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Sick of all this now....if he doesnt want to be here get rid and let him join the Pimps Army at QPR........

If he stays what sort of player is he going to be ?

And what will his interaction with the other players be....Disruptive ?

Looks like he will now be fined for his protestations on Twitter too.....

Only want to see players in the Stripes that want to be part of the club....

So Goodbye and thanks........
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 12:24:08 PM
Sick of all this now....if he doesnt want to be here get rid and let him join the Pimps Army at QPR........

If he stays what sort of player is he going to be ?

And what will his interaction with the other players be....Disruptive ?

Looks like he will now be fined for his protestations on Twitter too.....

Only want to see players in the Stripes that want to be part of the club....

So Goodbye and thanks........

I don't think anyone wants him here long term now.

The decision now is to offload him now and run the risk of other players doing the same in future or offloading him in the summer when the dust has settled.

It's a fine balancing act.

Personally I think he'll be here until the summer as I cannot see QPR spending what we would want.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gingaprince on January 28, 2013, 12:28:02 PM
HR loves the transfer deadline day and sky love to follow him around. It wouldnt suprise me if HR gets a backhander or his son gets more airtime as a critic! Odemwonga will be gone which could leave us praying on the other two's fitness.

£5m take it or leave it! Its not a lot for prem survival. Lets hope they go down as they are in the same market for players as we are come the summer!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
I don't think anyone wants him here long term now.

The decision now is to offload him now and run the risk of other players doing the same in future or offloading him in the summer when the dust has settled.

It's a fine balancing act.

Personally I think he'll be here until the summer as I cannot see QPR spending what we would want.


I hope he is here until the summer.I want to waive my Monopoly money at him on Sunday
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gavinrussell on January 28, 2013, 12:30:32 PM
I don't think anyone wants him here long term now.

The decision now is to offload him now and run the risk of other players doing the same in future or offloading him in the summer when the dust has settled.

It's a fine balancing act.

Personally I think he'll be here until the summer as I cannot see QPR spending what we would want.

True, think that was the final offer from QPR...

Harry pretends to be a ludite as far as Twitter is concerned, but you can bet that someone at their club has been monitoring PO`s rants..

Intially thought it might just be a PR stunt to look like he is loosing his marbles and pave a way for a move...but i think he really does have issues (his experience in Russia wont have helped )

Can imagine he will end up staying and playing a bit part role for the remainder of the season then leaving....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 12:32:58 PM
Are Odemwonga s family local people?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 12:43:49 PM
HR loves the transfer deadline day and sky love to follow him around. It wouldnt suprise me if HR gets a backhander or his son gets more airtime as a critic! Odemwonga will be gone which could leave us praying on the other two's fitness.

£5m take it or leave it! Its not a lot for prem survival. Lets hope they go down as they are in the same market for players as we are come the summer!

Exactly. I don't understand why we should give a direct rival a helping hand by selling a quality player to them on the cheap? £5 million for PO is peanuts when QPR bought Zamora last year for £6 million. I can't see how 'Arry's underhand tactics or PO's rants will affect JP in the least when it comes to what he thinks is the correct market price for PO.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 28, 2013, 12:44:08 PM
Are Odemwonga s family local people?
Think she might be from the North West originally. Remember Pete saying once he got her Dad a Kompany short from one of the games as he supports them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 28, 2013, 12:44:27 PM
Let's not forget the real villain here, step forward Mr Harry Redknapp.

The quote at the top of of the page about the whole thing being conducted publicly but isn't their doing,clearly a load of rubbish.

Also he said on Sky Sports News that Odemwingie wants to move back to London. Aside from the fact we are the only English club Pete has played for, therefore has never lived in London, how would Redknapp know this as you aren't meant to speak to players until a fee is agreed?

How this bloke hasn't been put up in front of the FA for tapping up players is ridiculous. I hope Albion take them to the cleaners for Odemwingie and then lodge a complaint about illegal approaches for both Odemwingie and Olsson.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: howard62baby on January 28, 2013, 01:04:30 PM
mat15:my thoughts exactly, Harry is used to getting his way with the backing of spurs millions (wrecked Pompey nearly did the same to the saints) .JP will stand his ground and will get blood from a stone rememberhe has a saying (more of a mantra) that players are bought and sold with the interests of WBA being the priority being the number one factor.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 01:08:04 PM
Has Arry ever had dealings with JP ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 01:26:16 PM
He's off again!

@OdemwingieP: Between now and summer I will show you all a money move ! Busybodies !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: darby009 on January 28, 2013, 01:26:38 PM
Has Arry ever had dealings with JP ;D

not as far as i can remember but he is about to find out the hard way...

on another connected point, if the PO stuff hasnt come out from him then can old twitchy explain what the "F" he is doing mentioning Olson again.....

god i hate redneck
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BrummieBaggie68 on January 28, 2013, 01:27:28 PM
I think it's possible that QPR will pay silly money on Wednesday or Thursday and he'll go, but I suspect probably not.

If he stays, i think he will be fined, dressed down, the club will say it's dealt with, we move on, and he'll play (though possibly not start) against Spurs.

I don't think it's even impossible (though is obviously unlikely) that he'll play against Everton.

He remains contracted to the club. He's a core player. Had an outburst, been punished, matter is closed, business as usual. I think that's what they'll do if there's no 'silly money' offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 01:27:58 PM
He's off again!

@OdemwingieP: Between now and summer I will show you all a money move ! Busybodies !

Idiot
Obviously not gone into work yet then
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 28, 2013, 01:32:04 PM
He's off again!

@OdemwingieP: Between now and summer I will show you all a money move ! Busybodies !
What is this idiot on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
So he is basically saying he will not perform for us if we keep him...thought he was doing that from this August already to be fair
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BrummieBaggie68 on January 28, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
I think it's possible that QPR will pay silly money on Wednesday or Thursday and he'll go, but I suspect probably not.

If he stays, i think he will be fined, dressed down, the club will say it's dealt with, we move on, and he'll play (though possibly not start) against Spurs.

I don't think it's even impossible (though is obviously unlikely) that he'll play against Everton.

He remains contracted to the club. He's a core player. Had an outburst, been punished, matter is closed, business as usual. I think that's what they'll do if there's no 'silly money' offer.

I hadn't seen his latest tweet. I was kind of assuming he'd stopped all that. If he's still at it, god knows what will happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
Whos he calling a busybody :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 28, 2013, 01:38:04 PM
He's obviously been told to take a day off or something because he's obviously got nothing else to do!

@OdemwingieP: Didn't tweet that feeling down. But I am fed up.  Son and wife back home from the hospital. All good. Glory be to God.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 28, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
So he is basically saying he will not perform for us if we keep him...thought he was doing that from this August already to be fair

Its possible to read it another way.  Maybe he's been ordered to knuckle down and secure the best possible price for the club in the summer.

Maybe JP has said that we will accept £5m in the summer and if we achieve more than thaz then he can keep half the difference. A win-win?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
Anyone follow Rodney Marsh on Twitt, just wondering what he is thinking ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
Anyone follow Rodney Marsh on Twitt, just wondering what he is thinking ???
No but i'd gladly follow him down a dark alley with no witnesses!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 28, 2013, 02:01:20 PM
Keep tweeting, keep saving us £40k.

Cheers Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gavinrussell on January 28, 2013, 02:07:35 PM
No but i'd gladly follow him down a dark alley with no witnesses!!

This... :) ( I remember the lipstick on a pig quote !!!!!!)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 02:26:29 PM
Keep tweeting, keep saving us £40k.

Cheers Pete.

Can he say what he wants for a week once he is fined, or can we fine him every time he tweets some nonsense?

What a plonker, he is fed up, yet he is the one creating all the drama nobody else.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gingaprince on January 28, 2013, 02:34:37 PM
solution

loan odemwonga to QPR for 2 million with 3 million for perm deal if they stay up.

we get £5m if they stay up, pocket 2million and can sell him in the summer if they go down . we will get odemwonga performing for QPR to get a contract so will increase his value if they go down . QPR only have to pay his 40k wages instead of the 75k they have tempted him with and dont have to get shot of him if they go down.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on January 28, 2013, 02:35:24 PM
If QPR come in with an offer of 7.5 million or above, he can go anything less than that the greedy git stays, end of. I really wish that QPR would go like Portsmouth.

Read some where yesterday that there chairman said if things continue as they are, he would be the first to go. So you might just get your wish
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 28, 2013, 02:37:13 PM
He's fed up because his little ploy isn't working.

As I'm relatively new to Twitter, can anyone tell me if Jonas' little strap line (Every Saint has a past every Sinner has a future) has been there for a while or rather recent?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 28, 2013, 02:39:36 PM
Sadly he has done what Albion exactly dont want, got our name dragged through the media. We do our business quietly, fly under the radar and its served us well so far, instead at the moment we are all over media outlets due to 2 individuals.

I feel sorry for the QPR fans, they arent doing anything wrong yet there club are signing overpaid premadonnas as they have done the last 18 months, they are a bit of a laughing stock, could be in the championship next season and if the owner does pull out, they are left like a Pompey, and it will be the fan who suffer.  I think that Tony Fernandes appears to have good intentions and he is prepared to throw money at it to do it but obviously hasnt realised the way to do things properly, i think thats maybe just naive on his part and its all probably quite new to him. Harry Redknapp however has been involved in the game a long time and knows exactly what he is doing, i dont think there is a player at any club he would not comment on whether he knows them or not (despite him saying he doesnt do it) I remember he had a right tantrum when he was at Spurs and Modric was linked with Chelsea saying it was wrong, etc yet he does it every transfer window! There was no need for him to even mention Olsson or Hangeland, i have no doubt he thinks they are good players, same as most people, but dont mean you have to keep linking them with transfers. I am sure Steve Clarke could say yeah i think Gerrard, Defoe, Rooney, Van Persie, Lampard but there clubs wont sell, states the obvious for no reason!

The real mercenary though is Pete, Redknapp couldnt careless about Albion, thats not his job, he has no class about how he does things but if keeps them up with Pete scoring 8 goals for them, he wont care one bit. I think he is a decent character but sometimes i think he forgets morals and rules when it comes to transfers. Pete on the other hand could of avoided all this, transfer request so the club knows he wants out, the buying club begin negotiations, fee agreed and he goes. Instead he has tainted his reputation not just at Albion but throughout football, i was talking to a mate yesterday and he is a Blues fan (i know) and he even said even if they were well run and had plenty of money like the Gold and Sullivan days, he wouldnt want  Odemwingie  near the club as although he would no doubt score goals, he is also a rotten egg and a vile character with no morals, and i think players like him unless you are that good (ie Anelka, Ba) then they dont last long at places, Joey Barton is another, he isnt worth the baggage he comes with, Odemwingie falls into that catergory for me after his antics the last 3 days.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: filip on January 28, 2013, 02:40:56 PM
Sick of all this now....if he doesnt want to be here get rid and let him join the Pimps Army at QPR........

If he stays what sort of player is he going to be ?

And what will his interaction with the other players be....Disruptive ?

Looks like he will now be fined for his protestations on Twitter too.....

Only want to see players in the Stripes that want to be part of the club....

So Goodbye and thanks........

well said !!!

If he wants to leave let him go !!!
If he isnt happy here we dont need him anymore!!

Club proud is very important IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on January 28, 2013, 02:47:03 PM
get rid of the greedy nob thats all he is, but dont sell him to that tin pot club sell him back to locamotive there fans and he deserve each other :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on January 28, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
On a more positive note, this will be good experience for Mrs. Odemwingie in childcare.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
get rid of the greedy nob thats all he is, but dont sell him to that tin pot club sell him back to locamotive there fans and he deserve each other :P


Thats what i want.Get him out the country altogether
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gingaprince on January 28, 2013, 02:55:41 PM
your not telling me that QPR and agent isnt behind twitter rants. QPR have put in a second bid after the weekend fun and it's the same offer!!!

Taking the p*** if you ask me
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 28, 2013, 03:10:50 PM
solution

loan odemwonga to QPR for 2 million with 3 million for perm deal if they stay up.

we get £5m if they stay up, pocket 2million and can sell him in the summer if they go down . we will get odemwonga performing for QPR to get a contract so will increase his value if they go down . QPR only have to pay his 40k wages instead of the 75k they have tempted him with and dont have to get shot of him if they go down.

Brilliant - JP are you reading?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 28, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Brilliant - JP are you reading?

That wouldn't be a good deal for us. There are huge bonuses on offer this season for finishing the highest in the table, each worth - or so I told - £800,000. Odemwhinger's goals, assuming, he is selected, could earn us some big money even if he stays with us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 28, 2013, 03:37:42 PM
That wouldn't be a good deal for us. There are huge bonuses on offer this season for finishing the highest in the table, each worth - or so I told - £800,000. Odemwhinger's goals, assuming, he is selected, could earn us some big money even if he stays with us.

I'm assuming that his position here is pretty much untenable and that it's best that he goes, and that we would use the loan money to get a loan signing for the rest of the season (Malouda ?)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 03:48:04 PM
I'm assuming that his position here is pretty much untenable and that it's best that he goes, and that we would use the loan money to get a loan signing for the rest of the season (Malouda ?)

That deal would be a complete failure for us on several points:

1. We cave in to the dirty tactics and 'Arry and PO succeed in prying him lose for a lot less value than he is worth

2. We undersell PO badly meaning even less money for a replacement

3. We set a poor precedence for the club how it handles it's affairs under pressure. All this b*****s going on right now is just to soften us up, by the looks of it some are getting soft just from the warm up blows.

4. We won't bring in anyone as a replacement for PO, unless something drastic happens, and knowing Dirty Harry he won't come in with his genuine offer until right before the deadline so forget about replacements.
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 04:00:21 PM
If you listen to Talksport around 6.30 pm i am sure Peter Odemwonga will be featured on Headsgone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 28, 2013, 04:08:03 PM
I think it's out of order blaming Harry Redknapp for the events that have transpired. Everybody know that Harry's dog is the one pulling all the strings. The little twonk needs putting down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on January 28, 2013, 04:12:44 PM
I bet he will be gone by the time the window shuts.There is nothing to be gained keeping him. They will make another offer which will be accepted. All the is just the way the game is played. Pete's not going to be worth more than he is now. Get rid!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 28, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
I'm seriously starting to think that he might have some psychological issues.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 28, 2013, 04:26:12 PM
Bloody hell last time i wrote on here it was on page 60 and hes still here :)
Your telling me Mackie is valued the same as PO >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TLMS17 on January 28, 2013, 04:27:48 PM
How do you know?
I meant he doesn't do it on Twitter or facebook like this t***r
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 28, 2013, 04:28:32 PM
I think it's out of order blaming Harry Redknapp for the events that have transpired. Everybody know that Harry's dog is the one pulling all the strings. The little twonk needs putting down.

Brilliant! Best quote for ages!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 28, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
I meant he doesn't do it on Twitter or facebook like this t***r

Yup. Still find it incredible there are people defending him! I have no problem with a player being unhappy, but to do it in the way this little brat has done is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 28, 2013, 04:40:47 PM
Yup. Still find it incredible there are people defending him! I have no problem with a player being unhappy, but to do it in the way this little brat has done is unacceptable.

It's Mrs Odem I feel sorry for.

A new mum being woken up every night by a bawling brat.
















And on top of that she's got the new baby to look after  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 28, 2013, 04:42:19 PM
It's Mrs Odem I feel sorry for.

A new mum being woken up every night by a bawling brat.
















And on top of that she's got the new baby to look after  ;)


Did i hear correctly the baby is called Harry
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 28, 2013, 05:04:01 PM

Did i hear correctly the baby is called Harry

LOL - a classic ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 28, 2013, 05:09:20 PM

Did i hear correctly the baby is called Harry
No thats his pimp
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 28, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
I think a couple of us have been able to distance ourselves from "planet Albion" to be fair, he has not said anything against the fans in my opinion, and it's nice to have interaction with top level players even if it isn't what we want to hear. I think Odemwingie has got "a bit in the bank" with us fans (or should have) for the way the team have performed since his arrival. I am certain we'd have gone down in 10/11 without him and possibly even last season too.

Find myself agreeing with you on this one Jacko. Too much hysteria surrounding this episode for my money.  Being a human being isnt a game of perfects. Yes he could have handled things perhaps in a better way but that surely doesnt make him the outcast that a lot of opinion seems to indicate.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on January 28, 2013, 05:18:59 PM
your not telling me that QPR and agent isnt behind twitter rants. QPR have put in a second bid after the weekend fun and it's the same offer!!!

Taking the p*** if you ask me
better still jp do like you did with megson put him on gardening leave until after the windows shut dont forget if odem helps keep them up next season we start off on a level footing see redknapp out show him whoes boss making out he dont know anything about twitter he has been tapping up somehow does he think the general public are that stupid having said that he;s finished here sell in the summer 8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on January 28, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
Anyone with a twitter account may want to go and have a chat with this a**hole:


http://twitter.com/TheRealEboue
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 28, 2013, 05:25:04 PM
Five good reasons why Pete should never be allowed to wear an Albion jersey again:

1) He's becoming a demoralizing force on the squad.
2) It sets a bad example for other players, and not just at Albion.
3) Nothing personal, but I don't feel he can be trusted to be professional on the field. He has invited skepticism and scrutiny of his on-pitch behavior.
4) At this point, I don't see how wearing an Albion jersey does Pete any good. He needs to move on.
5) It shows utter disrespect to fans, who are gutted by his behavior. Fans deserve better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 28, 2013, 05:25:38 PM
Anyone with a twitter account may want to go and have a chat with this a**hole:


http://twitter.com/TheRealEboue

Utter tosser
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 28, 2013, 05:25:53 PM
Anyone with a twitter account may want to go and have a chat with this a**hole:


http://twitter.com/TheRealEboue

This affair has nothing to do with him so he can bugger off sticking his unwanted nose in.

And is West Bum meant to be offensive? That lad is in some serious need of growing up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 28, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
It's a troll account, ignore it guys. Just did a search on it!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 28, 2013, 05:27:24 PM
This affair has nothing to do with him so he can bugger off sticking his unwanted nose in.

And is West Bum meant to be offensive? That lad is in some serious need of growing up.


I cant see twitter on works computer, whats it all about Alfie
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 28, 2013, 05:28:06 PM
My plan would be give them a price take it or leave it - no negotiation. Medical to be completed 24 hours before deadline or we will not sell.

Stops the messing around and gives us time to replace if needs be.

Let all of these idiots know who is in control.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 28, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
It's a troll account, ignore it guys. Just did a search on it!
Villa fan.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on January 28, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
It's a troll account, ignore it guys. Just did a search on it!

My bad. In retrospect that is pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 05:34:13 PM
Anyone with a twitter account may want to go and have a chat with this a**hole:


http://twitter.com/TheRealEboue

Why feed his effing ego? PO thrives on being in the center of attention. If he isn't getting positive attention and adoration he will throw some rubbish to get negative attention, as long as he gets attention... So obvious. He is a drama queen and needs an audience. The best solution is to not give him an audience, simply don't care about his twits, dramas, trolling, emotional manipulation etc. I know it's never going to happen but the best way to deal with him would be to ignore him, no boos, no songs, absolutely no nothing, make him invisible. He'll go nuts (nuttier) in no time.

That's why he wasn't happy  this season either, he wasn't top dog anymore and was out of the limelight too much. Well he has fixed that now by his attention whoring.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 05:42:35 PM
Five good reasons why Pete should never be allowed to wear an Albion jersey again:

1) He's becoming a demoralizing force on the squad.
2) It sets a bad example for other players, and not just at Albion.
3) Nothing personal, but I don't feel he can be trusted to be professional on the field. He has invited skepticism and scrutiny of his on-pitch behavior.
4) At this point, I don't see how wearing an Albion jersey does Pete any good. He needs to move on.
5) It shows utter disrespect to fans, who are gutted by his behavior. Fans deserve better.

Well, to make his position impossible with WBA was obviously his goal when he started to tweet. I don't think JP will fall for cheap emotional manipulation black mail, and neither should he. The club has ways to deal with situations like this. JP and management always struck me as sober and intelligent people.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBArgo on January 28, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
Can't believe some of the simps on Twitter are messaging him telling him it's "the minority of moaning fans" when the reality is it damn well isn't.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 28, 2013, 05:56:31 PM
Talk sport want your calls now
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 28, 2013, 05:57:29 PM
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/peter-odemwingie/mwverlaufgraph/spieler_12516.html

According to this he is worth £4.8 million, cough up 'arry! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 28, 2013, 05:59:56 PM
Has anybody seen the Jeremy Peace twitter account - @ChairmanWBA

Its a spoof one but its very funny and you can sort of imagine JP been like the stuff it says!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 28, 2013, 06:01:25 PM
Talk sport want your calls now


Yes They want to talk about Pete in the next hour and are encouraging you to call.Pick up the phone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 28, 2013, 06:03:22 PM
Stanley Dogger Collymore and Mark Sagers are talking about mercenaries on their show later from 7pm.He might be mentioned
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 28, 2013, 06:05:26 PM
I would sell him but not to QPR.


Why give them both what they want?

Harry is twitching now it's gone public.

Albion should tell him to drop the interest in our players or start investigations into illegal approach.

That should do the trick.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 28, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
@OdemwingieP: Didn't tweet that feeling down. But I am fed up.  Son and wife back home from the hospital. All good. Glory be to God.

I'm concerned now - surely even Mr Peace won't be capable of defeating the combined might of God and 'arry!  ;D

((there's one very obvious follow-up to this, but I won't be the one to say it!!))
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 28, 2013, 06:09:38 PM

I cant see twitter on works computer, whats it all about Alfie

Who is this no mark ?
Is that a clown's outfit he's wearing ?  He used to defend like one !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 28, 2013, 06:29:26 PM
So predictable - get home from work and no sooner I switched on Sky Sports there he is - King Spiv.

Holding court as his but-licking journo groupies 'ang on his evry word !

There is is spinning like a spinning top talking about the Window and his targets and managing to claim that they are nothing to do with PO and we have a problem ! NICE MENTIONED OF jONAS TOO FOR GOOD MEASURE !

I said this week was going to be painful with that clown and his chums and so far they are right on cue.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 28, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
I am amazed, we have been given more than four seconds of coverage on Talksport. Both shouty and dogger have points tbf.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 28, 2013, 08:12:03 PM
I would sell him but not to QPR.


Why give them both what they want?

Harry is twitching now it's gone public.

Albion should tell him to drop the interest in our players or start investigations into illegal approach.

That should do the trick.

Do you think Harry is remotely worried about a potential slap on the wrists after what he's been through with his tax evasion case?  He couldn't give a stuff.

Wouldn't it be funny if he now signs Graham and drops his interest in PO? 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 28, 2013, 09:15:17 PM
I maybe wrong but having read Redknapps comments regarding the Odemwingie bids i get the feeling he seems to be pulling away from the deal......or making himself a route out of it!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Loughborough Baggy on January 28, 2013, 09:26:15 PM
So predictable - get home from work and no sooner I switched on Sky Sports there he is - King Spiv.

Holding court as his but-licking journo groupies 'ang on his evry word !

There is is spinning like a spinning top talking about the Window and his targets and managing to claim that they are nothing to do with PO and we have a problem ! NICE MENTIONED OF jONAS TOO FOR GOOD MEASURE !

I said this week was going to be painful with that clown and his chums and so far they are right on cue.

Fantastic post - got the (alleged) tax swindler and the media down to a T.

I always remember a couple of years ago when the (alleged) tax swindler spent all summer buying forwards and midfielders and then he spent his 1st press conference of the season complaining that he didn't have a defence because the ever fit Woodgate and King were out injured.  The press just lap it up - not one person from the media asked whether he maybe should have spent some of the money on a defender!

I wonder how many more operations could have taken place at Great Ormond Street if Harry had paid the tax he (allegedly) didn't cough up.

I don't think he's ever forgiven us for getting him sacked at Spurs by playing the dodgy keeper against Arsenal and giving them the points to knock Spurs out of Champions League football.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 28, 2013, 09:28:36 PM
Hehehe, OR for Mr. Roy Hodgson getting the England job  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 28, 2013, 09:31:41 PM
Hehehe, OR for Mr. Roy Hodgson getting the England job  ;)
That's the one that really hurts him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on January 28, 2013, 09:37:51 PM
Old rubber face could sign anyone not necessarily the player he is after. He is dyslexic of course according to his evidence at the court case.  I mean when he was at Spurs he wanted to sign Eden Hazard and ended up with Eddie Izzard. Ha Ha!! 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 28, 2013, 10:00:08 PM
Listened to bits of the Talksport debate and looked on Twitter about the Odemwingie situation, the difference between players and fans opinion is vast!

A lot of ex pro's saying he is 32, been offered £30k a week extra, he has to go. Fans from other clubs are saying he owes the club some loyalty, that in itself shows the difference between fans and players.

I think the point being missed by the ex players and players, i dont think any Albion fan expect Odemwonga to show loyalty, he has previous for been disruptive but also he i dont think many fans really expect loyalty from players, they arent fans, its a job. I dont think many actually begrudge him a move, i dont think many of us understand it playing and ambition wise but i dont think he bases his decision on playing and ambition reasons but i think most Albion fans would of said one last pay day, thanks for the memories, good luck to you.

The issue i think we have, me personally anyway is the way he has gone about it, even if he didnt say he was going for the money, common sense we know he is, but even if he wasnt honest enough to say he wanted the money, why not keep quiet, keep his dignity and he would of still got the move and everyone is happy.

The issue for me is the way he has done it, thats what has got my backup but i dont think some pro's either dont realise thats why us fans are hacked off with him or actually agree with with his actions, which if that is the case, its a sad state of affairs.

PS - I am aware i am not talking for all Albion fans above, but i think from this forum anyway the majority its the actions rather than intentions that have annoyed us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jonny on January 28, 2013, 10:03:22 PM
Noticed he's changed his profile picture from one in a WBA shirt to one with his missus now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 28, 2013, 10:14:20 PM
Pat Murphy ?@patmurphybbc

Hearing that Peter O not at training yesterday or today & @WBAFCofficial players unimpressed.Will (Jeremy) Peace break out before 11pm 1/2


If true then he can expect another fine
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KingKoren on January 28, 2013, 10:15:45 PM
Pat Murphy ?@patmurphybbc

Hearing that Peter O not at training yesterday or today & @WBAFCofficial players unimpressed.Will (Jeremy) Peace break out before 11pm 1/2


If true then he can expect another fine

Would be a bit harsh...

Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski

@patmurphybbc Pat he was given extra time off due to the situation with his wife and son in hospital. Not related to meltdown
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 28, 2013, 10:16:31 PM
As well as changing his picture he's removed Nigeria from his teams too. Maybe he's not completely delusional!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 28, 2013, 10:17:02 PM
Pat Murphy ?@patmurphybbc

Hearing that Peter O not at training yesterday or today & @WBAFCofficial players unimpressed.Will (Jeremy) Peace break out before 11pm 1/2


If true then he can expect another fine

Would be a bit harsh...

Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski

@patmurphybbc Pat he was given extra time off due to the situation with his wife and son in hospital. Not related to meltdown

Yeah, CL just tweeted straight after
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 28, 2013, 10:34:46 PM
As long as we don't forget. We want our capital out on the pitch. Not in a bank account.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: solidus on January 28, 2013, 10:41:01 PM
So he was given time off due to his wife and son being in hospital, yet instead of being by their side he got on the Guinness and went mental on twitter?!
Sounds like a real family guy...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 10:43:01 PM
If he does leave, it'll be a deal that goes right to the deadline I imagine. So probably not much time to get a replacement in.

Not that that's necessarily a bad thing mind, as long as its re-invested in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on January 28, 2013, 11:00:05 PM
He's blocked me on Twitter. Got to be the final straw!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: NathWBA on January 28, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
He's blocked me on Twitter. Got to be the final straw!
same, I think he's blocking alot of people, I can understand it if e is getting abuse, but he seems to block people for simply asking why he wishes to leave so desperately, and after his outburst surely he should have been man enough to accept some abuse
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 28, 2013, 11:09:13 PM
Pat Murphy ?@patmurphybbc

Hearing that Peter O not at training yesterday or today & @WBAFCofficial players unimpressed.Will (Jeremy) Peace break out before 11pm 1/2


If true then he can expect another fine
Couldn't he be on paternity leave?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 28, 2013, 11:13:29 PM
Peter Odemwingie has done a fine job for WBA. Will he or should I say would he ever have been revered by the fans in the same way as Astle Brown or Wile. No of course not. Whats he really guilty of here?. Speaking his mind in public when it would have been better advised to speak to his employers in private. Hardly the greatest crime is it? and as the club have said "it will be dealt with internally"
Im still not convinced this is solely about money. I just think he finds it difficult to cope if he isnt at the centre of things football wise. The likes of Lakaku Long have pi**ed on his "star player" bonfire a bit.
But the furore that gets created out of nothing in the media these days is astonishing. To be honest i'll be glad when we can get back to talking football. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 28, 2013, 11:15:17 PM
The well respected Pat Murphy was on 5Live earlier and gave a summary on the situation.

 - He said Peter hasn't been at training for the past seasons (whether that's because of what has happened or because of family reasons I don't think anyone but the club and him know).

 - QPR are offering Peter a weekly salary of 75k plus a get out clause if the club get relegated - god knows how this is out in the open as I thought you can't offer a player terms until a bid has been accepted?

 - Pat said he gets the impression the rest of squad see him as a 'rotten apple' and that can't make for a healthy dressing room.

 - Any deal will be on Jeremy Peace terms (tell us something we don't know  8) ) and he wouldn't be surprised if Pete does stay if any more bids don't match his valuation.

 - Pat concluded by saying nobody should be surprised by his recent attitude, despite being the victim from what we came from in Russia he was also known to be no saint.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 28, 2013, 11:30:41 PM
Peter Odemwingie has done a fine job for WBA. Will he or should I say would he ever have been revered by the fans in the same way as Astle Brown or Wile. No of course not. Whats he really guilty of here?. Speaking his mind in public when it would have been better advised to speak to his employers in private. Hardly the greatest crime is it? and as the club have said "it will be dealt with internally"
Im still not convinced this is solely about money. I just think he finds it difficult to cope if he isnt at the centre of things football wise. The likes of Lakaku Long have pi**ed on his "star player" bonfire a bit.
But the furore that gets created out of nothing in the media these days is astonishing. To be honest i'll be glad when we can get back to talking football.

I can't defend him at all, i've tried to sit back and look at it from all sides and I genuinely cannot find any reason to defend him.

Whether theres other reasons than money or not I can't defend any of it. He's disrespected his employers, the fan, his team-mates the lot. At a time when many are struggling to make ends meet he is whinging whilst on £40k a week !

If as you say he could find it difficult to not be centre of attention then he needs to grow up, stop being a tit and start acting like an adult. He signed a deal committing himself to the club until Summer of 2014, he stated that the club said he would be allowed to go in the coming Summer so why has HE chosen to go against that now ? he cannot claim the club have changed the rules as we haven't got to that time.

Any other line of employment and his P45 would have been in the post, folk in regular lines of work have been sacked for much less than his outburst on Twitter.

If he had come out and said 'QPR have offered me xxx amount of money and I want to take it' then I wouldn't have a problem but once the club rejected his request he should have shown a bit of respect and either kept quiet full stop or gone to the club to try and sort it out not act like a spoilt brat.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBArgo on January 28, 2013, 11:39:57 PM
Spot on Oldbury.

This whole episode makes me feel guilty as a fan when people actually booed Brunt a few weeks back.
I wish players had similar attitudes to the likes of him, Mulumbu and Lukaku :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: graka on January 28, 2013, 11:42:32 PM
i only hope we dont get the scenario where pete is sold late and no replacement signed even though we tried!!! with gera out and us looking quite safe hope the laurels are not rested on seeing us slide to the lower half of the table after such a great start....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on January 28, 2013, 11:52:15 PM
Oldbury...Isn´t Pete leaving it a bit late to start behaving like an adult?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 28, 2013, 11:52:40 PM
I can't defend him at all, i've tried to sit back and look at it from all sides and I genuinely cannot find any reason to defend him.

Whether theres other reasons than money or not I can't defend any of it. He's disrespected his employers, the fan, his team-mates the lot. At a time when many are struggling to make ends meet he is whinging whilst on £40k a week !

If as you say he could find it difficult to not be centre of attention then he needs to grow up, stop being a tit and start acting like an adult. He signed a deal committing himself to the club until Summer of 2014, he stated that the club said he would be allowed to go in the coming Summer so why has HE chosen to go against that now ? he cannot claim the club have changed the rules as we haven't got to that time.

Any other line of employment and his P45 would have been in the post, folk in regular lines of work have been sacked for much less than his outburst on Twitter.

If he had come out and said 'QPR have offered me xxx amount of money and I want to take it' then I wouldn't have a problem but once the club rejected his request he should have shown a bit of respect and either kept quiet full stop or gone to the club to try and sort it out not act like a spoilt brat.

Im not trying to defend him. Im merely suggesting that the furore surrounding this largely hype and sadly the "jump on the bandwagon"media driven world we live in. The fact that he earns x amount a week is irrelevent to me. He chose that career and has worked hard at it to achieve the rewards he has. As long as he pays his taxes then he should be applauded for having some ambition, its whats made the western world what it is. I agree that he needs to act in a more sensible way in future but he shouldnt be castigated for expressing how he feels. I would much rather he did that than keep it to himself as you cant deal with a problem until it comes out into the open. In this case its just what is the right sort of open. I dont agree that in any other line of employment he would have received a P45 Oldbury. A warning as to future conduct 1st step disciplinary maybe. I think he is a perhaps a difficult character to handle in a group but it is irrefutable that in an industry that almost exclusively pays on results he has done a superb job for WBA. His goals almost certainly kept us in the division when we were heading for the trap door. If I were JP I would get him in the office with SC and DA and thrash the problem out. This isnt just about money in my view.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2013, 12:02:15 AM
Im not trying to defend him. Im merely suggesting that the furore surrounding this largely hype and sadly the "jump on the bandwagon"media driven world we live in. The fact that he earns x amount a week is irrelevent to me. He chose that career and has worked hard at it to achieve the rewards he has. As long as he pays his taxes then he should be applauded for having some ambition, its whats made the western world what it is. I agree that he needs to act in a more sensible way in future but he shouldnt be castigated for expressing how he feels. I would much rather he did that than keep it to himself as you cant deal with a problem until it comes out into the open. In this case its just what is the right sort of open. I dont agree that in any other line of employment he would have received a P45 Oldbury. A warning as to future conduct 1st step disciplinary maybe. I think he is a perhaps a difficult character to handle in a group but it is irrefutable that in an industry that almost exclusively pays on results he has done a superb job for WBA. His goals almost certainly kept us in the division when we were heading for the trap door. If I were JP I would get him in the office with SC and DA and thrash the problem out. This isnt just about money in my view.

The point about the P45 has happened to a number of people who have criticised their employers on a social network site and not as vigorously as Pete did.

I don't begrudge him earning £40k a week but I do begrudge him whining about it and 'needing to secure his families future' and all that garbage. If he hasn't done that by now then he has had some bad advisors or has some bad spending habits, not as though he's been playing in League Two on a couple of hundred quid a week is it ?

If its not just about money then what is it about ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 29, 2013, 12:12:14 AM
I bet Steve Clarke is pretty hacked off. You can understand why he was saying he wished the end of January would come. Potentially lost one of the squad's main attacking options, and a different type of striker from the others. It will probably be down to SC to decide whether to include him, with the obvious danger that he will poison the team spirit, one of the team's great strengths till now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on January 29, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
Like has been said.. The man needs to be centre of attention and is prob the most selfish footballer we have had for years ( yes exciting at times but appauling at others) The sad thing is unless he drops down divisions he is never going to be the 'main man' I'm now looking forward to seeing the next stage of his career going tits up and although I thank him for all the goals, his attitude will make me laugh out loud bigtime.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 29, 2013, 12:19:53 AM
So he was given time off due to his wife and son being in hospital, yet instead of being by their side he got on the Guinness and went mental on twitter?!
Sounds like a real family guy...

And this is becoming more and more like an episode of Family Guy  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 12:22:22 AM
The point about the P45 has happened to a number of people who have criticised their employers on a social network site and not as vigorously as Pete did.

I don't begrudge him earning £40k a week but I do begrudge him whining about it and 'needing to secure his families future' and all that garbage. If he hasn't done that by now then he has had some bad advisors or has some bad spending habits, not as though he's been playing in League Two on a couple of hundred quid a week is it ?

If its not just about money then what is it about ?

All this needing to secure his future stuff. As you say unless he has been foolish and im pretty sure he hasnt as he seems clearly an intelligent fellow is somewhat of a smokescreen if you ask me. His future was secured a long time ago i agree. Hence my assertion its not only about money. Clearly he struggles with the concept of playing to team orders. He will but he doesnt necessarily like it. This is at the centre of why he actually moves from club to club. His professional ego drives him to want star player status. When you watch him it manifests itself in his play sometimes. In laymans terms we used to call them ball hogs. A sort of misguided attempt to try and carry the "team" on ones shoulders. Its my belief that if Peter was playing in his preferred position as first choice and banging in the goals this situation wouldnt have blown up to this extent. But off course the team is far more important and the fact that the last two coaches have been of an altogether higher quality than previous may have spoilt his party somewhat.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
The point about the P45 has happened to a number of people who have criticised their employers on a social network site and not as vigorously as Pete did.

I don't begrudge him earning £40k a week but I do begrudge him whining about it and 'needing to secure his families future' and all that garbage. If he hasn't done that by now then he has had some bad advisors or has some bad spending habits, not as though he's been playing in League Two on a couple of hundred quid a week is it ?

If its not just about money then what is it about ?

This is about 2 things, both related to PO.

1. His personal problems, all too clearly revealed in the 'meltdown' tweets and past history in Europe, Russia, Nigeria and the club.
2. His 'money problem' (greed)

1 is personal problems that PO has to grow out of himself. 2. PO is a bottomless pit, this is related to problem number 1.

Oldbury, you are completely correct. The club can't solve those problems, only PO can. Look at Lukaku, he is five times more mature while being almost half the age of PO. PO is an unhealthy narcissist.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2013, 12:33:45 AM
All this needing to secure his future stuff. As you say unless he has been foolish and im pretty sure he hasnt as he seems clearly an intelligent fellow is somewhat of a smokescreen if you ask me. His future was secured a long time ago i agree. Hence my assertion its not only about money. Clearly he struggles with the concept of playing to team orders. He will but he doesnt necessarily like it. This is at the centre of why he actually moves from club to club. His professional ego drives him to want star player status. When you watch him it manifests itself in his play sometimes. In laymans terms we used to call them ball hogs. A sort of misguided attempt to try and carry the "team" on ones shoulders. Its my belief that if Peter was playing in his preferred position as first choice and banging in the goals this situation wouldnt have blown up to this extent. But off course the team is far more important and the fact that the last two coaches have been of an altogether higher quality than previous may have spoilt his party somewhat.   

Ruby, I respect your opinion mate but I cannot agree so as is usual we agree to disagree  :D

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 29, 2013, 02:46:03 AM
Lawro is spot on for once...

Quote
Striker Peter Odemwingie, meanwhile, starts to look rather mercenary. West Brom brought him to the Premier League from Russia, he has done really well for them and was given a new contract and now he has been offered more money by QPR, has had his head turned and wants to leave.

I don't buy into him saying he wants to fulfil his career by playing for a manager like Harry Redknapp and he is being extremely disrespectful to his team-mates. He might be able to go in the summer but West Brom need him and he just needs to get on with it now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21171673
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wappingbaggie on January 29, 2013, 03:08:51 AM
In my view this relationship has run its course and no real need to lament its ending.

He didnt cost us too much and scored a lot of important goals for us.

In return he achieved premiership recognition and the chance for a good final payday.

BUT WBA dont sell players for the wrong price. 3 mio is the wrong price. If QPR or anyone else bids us 4.5 then fine lets sign all the papers and move on.

We know the old Pete wont be easy to replace, but in all the circumstances I'm not sure the old Pete is ever going to be available again even if we didnt sell him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 29, 2013, 03:18:20 AM
Lawro is spot on for once...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21171673

Good post, although I don't think we 'need' him anymore. He's been quality for us when we needed it but the rest of our squad has been gradually catching up over time. We can do without him now, although a level headed and motivated Odemwingie would be a real asset to any club at this time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 29, 2013, 03:53:54 AM
I have full confidence in the club finding a suitable replacement. Pete was getting on anyway and him no longer playing for us would have happened sooner or later.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on January 29, 2013, 05:27:23 AM
Peter Odemwingie has done a fine job for WBA. Will he or should I say would he ever have been revered by the fans in the same way as Astle Brown or Wile. No of course not. Whats he really guilty of here?. Speaking his mind in public when it would have been better advised to speak to his employers in private. Hardly the greatest crime is it? and as the club have said "it will be dealt with internally"
Im still not convinced this is solely about money. I just think he finds it difficult to cope if he isnt at the centre of things football wise. The likes of Lakaku Long have pi**ed on his "star player" bonfire a bit.
But the furore that gets created out of nothing in the media these days is astonishing. To be honest i'll be glad when we can get back to talking football.


What's he guilty of?Acting like spoilt brat.

Class doesn't only apply on a football field,he shows a shocking lack of it off one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on January 29, 2013, 06:21:08 AM

What's he guilty of?Acting like spoilt brat.

Class doesn't only apply on a football field,he shows a shocking lack of it off one.
>:( "The King" would turn in his grave with the goings on of Peter Odemwingie....maybe that is why he is The King and somebody else will never be.
Bobby Hope wanted to play for his beloved Rangers (the Scottish one??) in the mid 1960s...he put in a transfer request (twice..from memory)...the club said no...and Bobby Hope stayed at Albion and played his heart out every week...he accepted his job and continued on...he also became a Legend.
Peter I suggest you have a chat with Bobby Hope....over a cup of tea,rather than Guiness?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 29, 2013, 06:35:07 AM
Go on Pete, off you go. Looks like you'll be right at home.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2269804/Harry-Redknapps-QPR-playersin-furious-bust-FA-Cup-defeat-EXCLUSIVE.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 29, 2013, 08:10:48 AM
He will be leaving us and he wont be replaced.We can cope until the rest of the season without a replacememnt as long as we invest in the summer.Next season will be much tougher in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 29, 2013, 08:18:44 AM
For once I have to agree with what Lawro said. It is about time that Pete did some growing up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on January 29, 2013, 09:24:05 AM
According to the Sun, Harry now wants Crouch. Makes sense as he has signed him 4 times previously.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 29, 2013, 09:25:50 AM
PO back in for training today i read
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on January 29, 2013, 09:27:13 AM
To be honest he's burnt all bridges with me as a supporter.

Showed no form of respect whatsoever. I can understand him wanting to take care of his future and secure one last big payout, but theres a correct way to go about it, and he hasn't done that.

Goodbye Peter, thanks for the goals, but my memory of you wont be as nice as it should have been.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 29, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
Peter Odemwingie has done a fine job for WBA. Will he or should I say would he ever have been revered by the fans in the same way as Astle Brown or Wile. No of course not. Whats he really guilty of here?. Speaking his mind in public when it would have been better advised to speak to his employers in private. Hardly the greatest crime is it? and as the club have said "it will be dealt with internally"
Im still not convinced this is solely about money. I just think he finds it difficult to cope if he isnt at the centre of things football wise. The likes of Lakaku Long have pi**ed on his "star player" bonfire a bit.But the furore that gets created out of nothing in the media these days is astonishing. To be honest i'll be glad when we can get back to talking football.

I think you have something here. Who wouldn't be pi**ed off if you were the top scorer for 2 seasons running yet in your 3rd season you're hardly getting a full game (despite being told you are important to the team)  and being played out of your best position for a season and a half, while the club continually bring in players who also play in your best position.....rather than strengthening in the position that they are asking you to play in?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 29, 2013, 10:03:25 AM
Its all gone quite, calm before the storm eh :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 29, 2013, 10:03:53 AM
I think you have something here. Who wouldn't be pi**ed off if you were the top scorer for 2 seasons running yet in your 3rd season you're hardly getting a full game (despite being told you are important to the team)  and being played out of your best position for a season and a half, while the club continually bring in players who also play in your best position.....rather than strengthening in the position that they are asking you to play in?

So why ask to move to a club that has 7 strikers on the books?

If the above is true he wouldn't care where he was going.

It's about one thing and one thing only, MONEY!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 29, 2013, 10:05:54 AM
So why ask to move to a club that has 7 strikers on the books? If the above is true he wouldn't care where he was going.

It's about one thing and one thing only, MONEY!

Because they have state that he would play in his preferred role....something we should have been doing more. yes money has a lot to do with it but it's not the sole reason.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 29, 2013, 10:07:53 AM
So why ask to move to a club that has 7 strikers on the books?

If the above is true he wouldn't care where he was going.
It's about one thing and one thing only, MONEY!


irrelevant as no one else has come in for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 29, 2013, 10:28:13 AM
So why ask to move to a club that has 7 strikers on the books?

If the above is true he wouldn't care where he was going.

It's about one thing and one thing only, MONEY!

If he had of come out and said "QPR are going to offer me a better deal and I'll get to see out my career in London with my young family" this whole saga wouldn't have happened, thats basically what Gera did and we welcomed him back with open arms. Afterall, 99.9% of transfers in football are money orientated, do you really think Didier Drogba or Asamoah Gyan are plying their trades in China or the UAE for its footballing tradition and reputation?

Our only gripe should be the way he has dragged the clubs name through the media circus. In todays climate we cannot slate him for being interested in moving to a club who would offer him more money, every player on our books would do the same.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 29, 2013, 10:31:50 AM
Odemwingie 'wants':

1. To play in 'his position'. - his position before he came to us for club and country was out wide. QPR have (for now) about 6 strikers including speculation for Crouch; Odemwingie will not play any more regularly than here.

2. More game time - well if he hadn't got red carded and suffer huge dips in form he'd play more. Again, no more likely to play at QPR.

3. To play for a 'well respected manager' - he played under Roy Hodgson, deemed better than Redknapp for England, with a long successful career around the world. Redknapp is so good that he was unemployed for 5 months with no real clamouring for his signature, Tottenham wanted rid of him and he's virtually bankrupted almost every club he's been at.

4. To secure his future - here I finally see some logic but he clearly doesn't really care if and where he plays because he would rather go to the Championship at a club full of players in his position. And I see what he eventually and messily got round to saying; that the club offered him no concrete future beyon next summer, but as QPR shouldn't be telling him what they have to offer, you can't have the option to move for security as he shouldn't know what a contract should include. Safe to say it'll be more, but he won't be on those wages soon. And to kick off about his wife and son crying about moving is moronic as he is the one that wants to move. I call bull on any sympathy tactics he's has pulled on an otherwise legtimate reason after his breakdown.

IMO he realises he's not got long left, realises he will have to work hard for his future and wants out for an easy pay cheque. Yes we may not have offered him a long term stability but neither can QPR. We don't pour money down the drain and assess the worth of players in the future (see Phillips) and if it's not worth us ploughing wages into someone we don't assess as being needed, there's no fault in that. You wouldn't keep buying parts for a car that's getting older and less reliable when you can buy a new car.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on January 29, 2013, 10:34:49 AM
2. More game time - well if he hadn't got red carded and suffer huge dips in form he'd play more. Again, no more likely to play at QPR.

Well if he wasn't injured so much he'd be on the pitch more, he must've missed a couple of months a season since he joined.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 29, 2013, 10:35:18 AM
Just hope he gets lost sooner rather than later or Albion force him into the reserves.

Problem with Pete i think he thinks he is a bit better than he really is, he isnt good enough to be demanding he play in the role he wants, if he was he would be ahead of Long and Lukaku, and also dare say would of played for a lot bigger and better clubs than he has in his career. Pete Odemwingie isnt Drogba, Rooney, Van Persie, he isnt a great player and cannot demand the world revoles around him, he cannot back up his baggage with his ability. (Not saying he is rubbish, he isnt, he is a good player but there are a lot of good players out there)

I still dont for one second buy into the whole out of position, working with Redknapp, thing, its all about the £'s for him. However i have said before if he was so unhappy where was the transfer request on January 1st, if i was unhappy as he claims i would be looking to get out first opportunity which in his line of work is January 1st, its a load of rubbish from me and he is a pathetic, weak human being for trying to hide behind excuses, he only became unhappy when QPR offered him a lot more money.

Albion have had a lot of players better than him in the past and we will do in the future, he has been good for us (not great) and played a part in establishing us as a premiership club and will always acknowledge he did his job, however we wont fall apart without him, and i expect the club to grow bigger and better without people like him.

From his point of view, i think he has peaked in his career, i would be surprised if he played for a club higher than Albion, certainly in England anyway and i hope his career peters out in somewhere like Azerbaijan where he will chase on last payday. Been a football fan for over 25 years and never had so much loathing for a player as i do for him, not for wanting to leave, thats his choice, but for the complete lack of respect and dignity he has shown the club and fans, and the complete load of rubbish and pathetic excuses he has spoken.  if somebody said what player sums of the modern day football then he would be it, sadly most players are decent players and pro's but its always scumbags like him who get the attention and in this case its dragged our name into it when its the exact opposite of what our club aims to be.

Never hated a player before, in fact never really hated many people but i do him, i cant stand everything he stands for and his lack of morals and respect for others. Even Curtis Davies who left in a bad way, he was out of order for refusing to play and nothing can condone that but he also moved for career reasons and was honest about it, rather than make excuses. Also i think that was the only time he wished to leave, he had a season in the championship if i remember when we lost in the play offs, where Odemwonga every window has been rumoured to be unhappy, openly admitted the other day every window he has been close to leaving then 2 weeks after the window shuts says how he loves the club,  blah blah blah, not that anybody believes him but why not just shut his mouth and get on with it instead of talking such rubbish all the time.

Hate the bloke and hope his career goes into freefall.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 29, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
I think you have something here. Who wouldn't be pi**ed off if you were the top scorer for 2 seasons running yet in your 3rd season you're hardly getting a full game (despite being told you are important to the team)  and being played out of your best position for a season and a half, while the club continually bring in players who also play in your best position.....rather than strengthening in the position that they are asking you to play in?

I'm not sure how he "hardly gets a full game", he's not taken off any more regularly than other attacking options. If anyone is hard done by by the subs this year its Long.

Likewise he's not really played out of position. He always had played as more of a winger, that was reported when he signed, it was something of a surprise he ended up playing as a main striker - largely due to lack of options at the time. Sure he did well there, but he's also done well in his current position as well, not least winning player of the month in February 2012 there.

Demanding to play in positions is all very self absorbed anyway, completely ignores the team aspect of the game. Considering QPR have Remy who WILL be their star man, he'll probably end up playing a similar role fairly often for them as well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 29, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
Having had a true insight now regarding Odemwingie plus looking at his past fall outs elsewhere you can see a little chink in his armour attitude wise that blows up now and again going on history.This i suspect is why for all of his talent he never quite made it enough for one of Europe's biggest teams to come and sign him particularly in his younger years.
Unless Hoilett is involved in an offer i stick by my view of not backing down to QPR and making a stand for those clubs like us try to manage their money correctly,if it costs us a bit then so be it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 29, 2013, 10:54:27 AM
Couldnt put it better myself:

http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/374099/Mick-Dennis


HOW does whingeing winger Peter Odemwingie know QPR are willing to better the £40,000 a week West Brom pay him?
Nobody at Queens Park Rangers can have put an offer to the dreadful ingrate’s agent. That would be tapping up. So it is just a mystery.
Here are two more puzzles: why does Odemwhinger have such a wonky idea about what constitutes loyalty? And how can he show such disdain for Albion supporters? Has the Nigeria international forgotten the reaction of Lokomotiv Moscow fans when he left in August 2010?
Those fans displayed a vile banner. It had a depiction of a banana and the message: “Thanks West Brom”. Interviewed in England, Odemwingie explained that black players “feel the open racism in Russia”.
Over here, the much-maligned Kick It Out campaign replied with a banner for West Brom fans to put up at The Hawthorns. It read: “Thanks Lokomotiv” and included a picture of Odemwingie celebrating the goal he had scored on his Baggies debut.
Now, I am not suggesting he should forever feel gratitude to Albion and their supporters because, instead of overt racism, they showed normal decency, but it should count for something that West Brom made a point of making Odemwingie feel welcome. His contract does not run out until the end of next season, but there is an improved one already on the table. Not that his current deal is too shabby: £40k-a-week basic, plus a bonus once Albion’s Premier League survival is guaranteed.
Odemwingie’s goals helped Albion finish 11th and then 10th. This season they are eighth. But he has a sudden urge to play for QPR, bottom of the Premier League with the division’s lowest attendances. Why? It is another mystery. West Brom have turned down two QPR bids, but such is Odemwingie’s determination to sample the delights of Shepherd’s Bush that he handed in a written transfer request. Somehow, the media got to know about it. The club did not tell anyone, so that is another mystery.
In a series of increasingly bonkers tweets, Odemwingie has complained that West Brom did not sell him to Russian club Rubin Kazan, Fulham, Newcastle or Wigan last summer, and do not want to sell him now. And his wicked employers will not tell him how much, theoretically, they would accept for him if they ever do sell him.
None of that is a mystery. They do not want to sell him. Yet, in the daftest tweet of the lot, Odemwingie said: “Loyalty left 70 per cent. The rest they stole out of my pocket thinking I was keeping money in there.”
Pardon? Only 70 per cent of his loyalty is left and West Brom have stolen the rest, while picking his pocket. That is such a deluded, self-centred rant.
Odemwingie has repaid the adulation of all those who have schlepped up and down England to watch and cheer him by insulting their club and letting his self-obsessed view of the world skew his behaviour.
I do not accept that Premier League players are all obscenely overpaid prima donnas. Footballers work in a market economy and are paid the going rate for starring in a competition which the world wants to see.
But then you come across a tale of such venal vanity as Odemwingie’s and the whole of the game is made to look squalid and sordid.
Understandably, the Albion message boards have changed how they describe Odemwingie. They were calling him a legend. Now they have other words. The most polite one is “mercenary”.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 29, 2013, 11:00:58 AM
Hes back on Twitter responding to the link I just posted, so brace yourselves :)

Shouldnt he be training anyway??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 29, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
Hes back on Twitter responding to the link I just posted, so brace yourselves :)

Shouldnt he be training anyway??
What he seems to have forgotten is what the Albion have given him. Not just a very good wage but support through injury and loss of form (club psychiatrist), an opportunity to play in the Premier Leagueand develop his game with top coaching.
Unfortunately for Pete,  he is no Balotelli or Tevez, and whilst undoubtedly there will be a club out there who will be prepared to gamble on him performing I don't believe it will be at the level he wants or his talent possibly deserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 29, 2013, 11:21:15 AM
Couldnt put it better myself:

http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/374099/Mick-Dennis


HOW does whingeing winger Peter Odemwingie know QPR are willing to better the £40,000 a week West Brom pay him?
Nobody at Queens Park Rangers can have put an offer to the dreadful ingrate’s agent. That would be tapping up. So it is just a mystery.
Here are two more puzzles: why does Odemwhinger have such a wonky idea about what constitutes loyalty? And how can he show such disdain for Albion supporters? Has the Nigeria international forgotten the reaction of Lokomotiv Moscow fans when he left in August 2010?
Those fans displayed a vile banner. It had a depiction of a banana and the message: “Thanks West Brom”. Interviewed in England, Odemwingie explained that black players “feel the open racism in Russia”.
Over here, the much-maligned Kick It Out campaign replied with a banner for West Brom fans to put up at The Hawthorns. It read: “Thanks Lokomotiv” and included a picture of Odemwingie celebrating the goal he had scored on his Baggies debut.
Now, I am not suggesting he should forever feel gratitude to Albion and their supporters because, instead of overt racism, they showed normal decency, but it should count for something that West Brom made a point of making Odemwingie feel welcome. His contract does not run out until the end of next season, but there is an improved one already on the table. Not that his current deal is too shabby: £40k-a-week basic, plus a bonus once Albion’s Premier League survival is guaranteed.
Odemwingie’s goals helped Albion finish 11th and then 10th. This season they are eighth. But he has a sudden urge to play for QPR, bottom of the Premier League with the division’s lowest attendances. Why? It is another mystery. West Brom have turned down two QPR bids, but such is Odemwingie’s determination to sample the delights of Shepherd’s Bush that he handed in a written transfer request. Somehow, the media got to know about it. The club did not tell anyone, so that is another mystery.
In a series of increasingly bonkers tweets, Odemwingie has complained that West Brom did not sell him to Russian club Rubin Kazan, Fulham, Newcastle or Wigan last summer, and do not want to sell him now. And his wicked employers will not tell him how much, theoretically, they would accept for him if they ever do sell him.
None of that is a mystery. They do not want to sell him. Yet, in the daftest tweet of the lot, Odemwingie said: “Loyalty left 70 per cent. The rest they stole out of my pocket thinking I was keeping money in there.”
Pardon? Only 70 per cent of his loyalty is left and West Brom have stolen the rest, while picking his pocket. That is such a deluded, self-centred rant.
Odemwingie has repaid the adulation of all those who have schlepped up and down England to watch and cheer him by insulting their club and letting his self-obsessed view of the world skew his behaviour.
I do not accept that Premier League players are all obscenely overpaid prima donnas. Footballers work in a market economy and are paid the going rate for starring in a competition which the world wants to see.
But then you come across a tale of such venal vanity as Odemwingie’s and the whole of the game is made to look squalid and sordid.
Understandably, the Albion message boards have changed how they describe Odemwingie. They were calling him a legend. Now they have other words. The most polite one is “mercenary”.

Shame about "Over here, the much-maligned Kick It Out campaign replied with a banner for West Brom fans to put up at The Hawthorns.". The banner was made by fans on this forum and even bought by fans on here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 29, 2013, 11:36:29 AM
Well its looking like he has'nt gone to training today ..According to CL the players are training but PO is tweeting ?

I just hope this galvanises the whole squad tomorrow and makes the team pull together..Also reading that Redknapp is after Crouch now..
Imagine if Q.P.R dropped their interest now ..How silly will PO look then ?

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 29, 2013, 11:56:18 AM
Well its looking like he has'nt gone to training today ..According to CL the players are training but PO is tweeting ?

I just hope this galvanises the whole squad tomorrow and makes the team pull together..Also reading that Redknapp is after Crouch now..
Imagine if Q.P.R dropped their interest now ..How silly will PO look then ?
Thats presuming QPR only interested party, im guessing that if say Wigan came in with the asking price then we would prefer to sell to anyone but QPR
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on January 29, 2013, 11:59:26 AM
Well its looking like he has'nt gone to training today ..According to CL the players are training but PO is tweeting ?

I just hope this galvanises the whole squad tomorrow and makes the team pull together..Also reading that Redknapp is after Crouch now..
Imagine if Q.P.R dropped their interest now ..How silly will PO look then ?

Perhaps he was sat waiting outside the Headmasters office.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 29, 2013, 12:01:14 PM
I've just asked him.......


@OdemwingieP Peter can you clarify .If you fail to engineer a move and stay till the summer, will you still put in 100% effort for WBA?

At the end of the day, that is the main thing. The way he has gone about this situation has been disgraceful, but if he is still willing to give 100% while playing for us, we need to get behind him for the rest of his stay with us. As angry as this saga has made me, we cannot forget all of the positive aspects he has brought to the club. Him and Olsson have been the most influential WBA players over the last decade or 2. The boo boys need to remember this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 29, 2013, 12:02:47 PM
Thats presuming QPR only interested party, im guessing that if say Wigan came in with the asking price then we would prefer to sell to anyone but QPR


Would he go to Wigan for less than hes on now, maybe for a longer contract
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JimWBA on January 29, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
Was just walking along the canal path on the opposite side of the training ground and unless one of our youngsters bares a remarkable resemblance to PO, i believe i have just seen him training with the reserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 29, 2013, 12:04:20 PM
Well its looking like he has'nt gone to training today ..According to CL the players are training but PO is tweeting ?

I just hope this galvanises the whole squad tomorrow and makes the team pull together..Also reading that Redknapp is after Crouch now..
Imagine if Q.P.R dropped their interest now ..How silly will PO look then ?



1. If he hasn't gone to training today that might have been the club's decision not his.

2. I'm sure some players have their mobiles at the training ground anyway.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 29, 2013, 12:06:09 PM
Players Like wingie most likely twonk whilst they jog
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 29, 2013, 12:11:19 PM
Was just walking along the canal path on the opposite side of the training ground and unless one of our youngsters bares a remarkable resemblance to PO, i believe i have just seen him training with the reserves.

My rugby club is next door to there I'm sure I can make an excuse to pop down and 'sort out some kit'.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on January 29, 2013, 12:18:09 PM
Good take on the situation from Jan Molby:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/jan-molby/odemwingie-row-shows-ridiculous-player-power-130841014.html
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on January 29, 2013, 12:21:28 PM
I have a friend who works near by the training ground and he had a look on his way to work this morning and he saw the same, adamant he saw Odemwingie training with the reserves.

May be wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
Makes perfect sense if PO is training with the reserves. Odds are he will be gone after Thursday and in any case he needs to be disciplined.

That was a good read by Molby above.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: valleybaggie on January 29, 2013, 12:50:03 PM
lets get behind the players who want to play for the albion like lukaku and long . lukakaku moved for big money and then came to `little' old albion and has played his heart out every minute he's been on the pitch and what's more he wants to stay for an extra season when he could go back to chelsea and sit on the bench and pick up the money odemwinge could only dream about.and as for long he hasn't had much more game time than odemwinge but he hasn't been trying to push through a move . and every minute he's played he's also given his all. i know there's a lot of people on here who don't rate him that highly but i would have him over odemwinge every day he must be a real handful to play against look what he did to liverpool on the opening day ,he never gave them any peace all day and as i've always wanted to beat the scousers if it wasn't for him we might not have. thought carragher was going to do a neville and retire after the game as he was given the run around by a player who played his heart out and wants to stay at the albion. and lets not forget the likes of foster, mulumbu, morrison ,ollsson,brunt and the rest [sorry if i've missed anyone out] but the first team with all the rotation have been excellent and no-one has threatened to move not even rosenbourg who has achieved ten times the amount that odemwinge has  and if i'm being honest has taken a step down to play for us as well has being played out of position when he's come on. so lets move on and at the next game lets get behind the boys on the park because we've come a hell of a long way from just trying to stay in the championship in the 90's to where we are now, and it could be a hell of a lot worse we could be like the dingles.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 29, 2013, 12:50:20 PM
I've just asked him.......

@OdemwingieP Peter can you clarify .If you fail to engineer a move and stay till the summer, will you still put in 100% effort for WBA?

I suspect that whatever he says on Twitter in response to such questions will have little bearing on what he subsequently does days or weeks down the line.

It's far better if he goes but, if he stays, he should never make the first team squad again IMO, so how much effort he intends to put in would be moot. Any apologies he might make once the window closes and he's still with us would have little credence with many Albion fans, and rightly so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on January 29, 2013, 01:11:36 PM
I sincerely hope he doesnt play for us again.

Puts into perceptive the people booing Brunt for having a bad game yet has given his all in 6 years here, and the way Odemgreedy has reacted the past few days.


Get rid.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 29, 2013, 01:36:45 PM
Just seen him in the Bell next to the training ground. Seemed to be sitting around a table full of Guinness Glasses talking to himself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 29, 2013, 01:47:37 PM
Just seen him in the Bell next to the training ground. Seemed to be sitting around a table full of Guinness Glasses talking to himself.

Quality! #headsgone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 01:48:02 PM
I sincerely hope he doesnt play for us again.

Puts into perceptive the people booing Brunt for having a bad game yet has given his all in 6 years here, and the way Odemgreedy has reacted the past few days.


Get rid.

Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 29, 2013, 03:43:12 PM
Well it looks like he has kicked his last ball for us if he does go to qpr.. Hes not in squad for tomorrow due to "family reasons"..

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 29, 2013, 03:49:50 PM
SC: Balls in QPR court now

In other words, they know the price! Good old JP :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 29, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
lets get behind the players who want to play for the albion like lukaku and long . lukakaku moved for big money and then came to `little' old albion and has played his heart out every minute he's been on the pitch and what's more he wants to stay for an extra season when he could go back to chelsea and sit on the bench and pick up the money odemwinge could only dream about.and as for long he hasn't had much more game time than odemwinge but he hasn't been trying to push through a move . and every minute he's played he's also given his all. i know there's a lot of people on here who don't rate him that highly but i would have him over odemwinge every day he must be a real handful to play against look what he did to liverpool on the opening day ,he never gave them any peace all day and as i've always wanted to beat the scousers if it wasn't for him we might not have. thought carragher was going to do a neville and retire after the game as he was given the run around by a player who played his heart out and wants to stay at the albion. and lets not forget the likes of foster, mulumbu, morrison ,ollsson,brunt and the rest [sorry if i've missed anyone out] but the first team with all the rotation have been excellent and no-one has threatened to move not even rosenbourg who has achieved ten times the amount that odemwinge has  and if i'm being honest has taken a step down to play for us as well has being played out of position when he's come on. so lets move on and at the next game lets get behind the boys on the park because we've come a hell of a long way from just trying to stay in the championship in the 90's to where we are now, and it could be a hell of a lot worse we could be like the dingles.

I agree completely, let's use this to pull the rest of the team together, get the "big pig" going. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 29, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Well it looks like he has kicked his last ball for us if he does go to qpr.. Hes not in squad for tomorrow due to "family reasons"..

Maybe 'arry's latest ploy is to adopt him!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bakebaggie on January 29, 2013, 04:32:13 PM
QPR manager Harry Redknapp has compared the January transfer window to gang warfare and says agents are too busy trying to screw each other.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2269462/Harry-Redknapp-claims-transfer-window-like-gang-warfare.html#ixzz2JNmgI1sp
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This guy is the real problem here, how does he retain any credibility? Biggest hypocrite ever.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 29, 2013, 04:35:17 PM
4-5 million with add ons if qpr stay up should do it. Id be quite happy to lose the money just to see odemwingies face when qpr go down!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on January 29, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
I'm going Keegan on this one, I would love it, love it, love it, love it, really love it if QPR went down now.  I want to see PO head down walking off past 'Arry the day it happens.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 04:42:33 PM
SC: Balls in QPR court now

In other words, they know the price! Good old JP :)

Where did you hear this?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 29, 2013, 04:48:15 PM
Where did you hear this?

Steve clarkes press conference,odemwingies out the squad tomorrow due to family reasons :-).

Clarkes goaded a 3rd bid so they must be looking to sell for the right price.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 04:57:15 PM
Steve clarkes press conference,odemwingies out the squad tomorrow due to family reasons :-).

Clarkes goaded a 3rd bid so they must be looking to sell for the right price.

Then the twit is as good as gone. Harry Redknapp with an open checkbook on transfer deadline? No way he can control himself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on January 29, 2013, 05:00:30 PM
He also alluded to it leaving a gap to fill so fingers crossed we won't be left short come the deadline
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on January 29, 2013, 05:04:09 PM
it would be good if we were part of the deadline day fun on sky sports news for incomings as well as peters exit.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 05:22:02 PM
it would be good if we were part of the deadline day fun on sky sports news for incomings as well as peters exit.

Indeed. But it's 'Arry we are dealing with. He wants to steal the headlines with his last gasp drama deals...  ::) Hope that costs him a couple of million extra.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on January 29, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
QPR manager Harry Redknapp has compared the January transfer window to gang warfare and says agents are too busy trying to screw each other.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2269462/Harry-Redknapp-claims-transfer-window-like-gang-warfare.html#ixzz2JNmgI1sp
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This guy is the real problem here, how does he retain any credibility? Biggest hypocrite ever.

A hypocrite is right! i wonder when he spouts his his drivel does he spare a thought for portsmouth >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 29, 2013, 06:07:53 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8453025/Steve-Clarke-is-hopeful-Peter-Odemwingie-will-stay-at-West-Brom

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 29, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8453025/Steve-Clarke-is-hopeful-Peter-Odemwingie-will-stay-at-West-Brom

I don't think Clarke could say anything else in the circumstances, so it doesn't mean it's what he really thinks.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 29, 2013, 06:30:28 PM
I don't think Clarke could say anything else in the circumstances, so it doesn't mean it's what he really thinks.

Agreed, put it up as others were asking what he'd said in his conference.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 29, 2013, 06:42:28 PM
Compare Odemwingie's situation with Coloccini's; one asked for a transfer long ago, kept his mouth shut, the two clubs couldn't hammer out a deal, he pledges 100% commitment to the cause while he remains a Newcastle player.

I hope Odemwingie IS here come the end of the window, but not because I want him anywhere near the team. I want his stupid little stunt to cost him his transfer that without his intervention may well have been sorted amicably. Stick him in the reserves, let someone come in for him in the summer and let him live out the rest of his career regretting he messed with our club.

But I'd take a 7 million pound incentive and his subsequent relegation, destruction of Redknapp and the spiralling into obscurity of that disgusting little club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie82 on January 29, 2013, 06:56:02 PM
Odemwingie is our best goalscorer and one of our few creative threats. He's one of a handful of options that separates our squad from the likes of Norwich. We should keep him. Selling our best players is a step backwards, it's just common sense. As for all the fans slatting him for his Twitter meltdown, that's Pete for you, he's always been emotional and hot headed. More importantly he's been superb for us on the pitch. I will be very disappointed if we sell him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
So why ask to move to a club that has 7 strikers on the books?

If the above is true he wouldn't care where he was going.

It's about one thing and one thing only, MONEY!

Yes and they are all absolutely useless! Peter smells the opportunity to be the main man again if you ask me. I can hear is agent now "great move Pete, regular game, pay rise, central striker role, get out clause when they go down. Its a win win. (and my 5% will be somewhere in the region of £150k)






Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2013, 07:19:03 PM
Redknapp still hopeful according to London Evening Standard

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/qpr-plan-to-dig-deep-into-their-pockets-for-chris-samba-8471145.html

Redknapp is also still hopeful of buying West Brom forward Peter Odemwingie and is looking at Stoke striker Peter Crouch, who he has worked with before at Portsmouth, Southampton and Tottenham.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 29, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
Odemwingie is our best goalscorer and one of our few creative threats. He's one of a handful of options that separates our squad from the likes of Norwich. We should keep him. Selling our best players is a step backwards, it's just common sense. As for all the fans slatting him for his Twitter meltdown, that's Pete for you, he's always been emotional and hot headed. More importantly he's been superb for us on the pitch. I will be very disappointed if we sell him.
You don't actually believe there is the remotest chance he will ever play for us again do you? The crowd abuse/verbals he will recieve would destroy him the moment they caught sight of him!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 29, 2013, 07:20:18 PM
I'd love to know what our selling price is or if it involves any other players i.e Hoilett.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 29, 2013, 07:22:23 PM
QPR have Remy and Zamora, they are trying to sign Crouch, if Odemwingie signs he will probably be playing out wide a fair bit, as including him out the 4 strikers listed above he is the only one who can play out wide!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
You don't actually believe there is the remotest chance he will ever play for us again do you? The crowd abuse/verbals he will recieve would destroy him the moment they caught sight of him!

A couple of goals in a thumping win would change all that in the blink of an eye. (read tevez for that) Its what happens ON the pitch that matters in the final analysis.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 29, 2013, 07:25:49 PM
A couple of goals in a thumping win would change all that in the blink of an eye. (read tevez for that) Its what happens ON the pitch that matters in the final analysis.

Do you honestly think he's going to turn up and play? He's poor when his confidence goes I'd hate to see him when he's actually not trying on purpose. Can't play for us again. Ad it's his own fault. Though picking up a wage for doing sod all would suit him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2013, 07:26:59 PM
Odemwingie is our best goalscorer and one of our few creative threats. He's one of a handful of options that separates our squad from the likes of Norwich. We should keep him. Selling our best players is a step backwards, it's just common sense. As for all the fans slatting him for his Twitter meltdown, that's Pete for you, he's always been emotional and hot headed. More importantly he's been superb for us on the pitch. I will be very disappointed if we sell him.

No denying he is a talent and our side is poorer without him, I would say 95% of fans appreciate that but Peter Odemwingie is not Mr Albion, he is a employee, one who has created this whole situation himself, he can blame playing position (which has been good enough everywhere else throughout his career until now), he can blame the club (who have put up with him and his clan of agents every transfer window very well including the current improved deal he is whining about not being good enough).

I don't buy the emotional and hot-headed though, i'd say more childish and stupid.

He has caused this situation aided and abetted by one man and his dog down South. All could have been avoided if he had gone about things the right way, the adult way, the respectful way.

If we cave in to demands like this from a prima donna like Pete then I will lose just as much respect for the people running this club as I have lost for the player himself.

If we end up keeping him I will back him for the time he is on the pitch, I will never boo him but I will also never sing his name again. Any goal he scores I will celebrate because its a goal for us, not because he has scored it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 29, 2013, 07:27:09 PM
A couple of goals in a thumping win would change all that in the blink of an eye. (read tevez for that) Its what happens ON the pitch that matters in the final analysis.
The fact Clarke has come out and left the door open for Pete today makes me agree with you Ruby , had he not made any gesture it would have been game over 100% for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on January 29, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
i still hope he stays, we are short on numbers and he would still be the most skillful player forward at the club, then move him on in the summer as the club were looking to do anyway
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
Do you honestly think he's going to turn up and play? He's poor when his confidence goes I'd hate to see him when he's actually not trying on purpose. Can't play for us again. Ad it's his own fault. Though picking up a wage for doing sod all would suit him.

If he doesnt go in the window then the club will launch a PR exercise to repair the damage and he will be back on the pitch at some point im almost sure. I dont think he will give up  expect the opposite to be honest if it comes to pass
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 07:32:58 PM
I don't think Clarke could say anything else in the circumstances, so it doesn't mean it's what he really thinks.

Sounded very fair and level headed to me. He may be annoyed with PO but keep in mind he has to keep the possibility PO remains with us after the window. In that case from his perspective, nevermind what the fans think, he needs an effective PO scoring and setting up goals for his team.

If Pete leaves, which I hope he does as long as it is a stellar deal for the club, it undoubtedly gives SC a headache for the rest of the spring. But that is also an important lesson for the club to learn. Don't put all your eggs in a rotten basket (ie lean on weak personalities like PO). A balanced squad able to deal with meltdowns like that is critical. The problem is not so much that PO could leave, the problem is that we have nothing to plug the gap with. As a club we need to be able to deal with our top players being poached, because it is inevitable that will happen every now and then, and be better prepared for such eventualities. And don't give me any hogwash about it happening on the last day of the window, when else does it happen? Of course it will happen when it's the least convenient, that's why you have to be prepared.

 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 07:36:19 PM
No denying he is a talent and our side is poorer without him, I would say 95% of fans appreciate that but Peter Odemwingie is not Mr Albion, he is a employee, one who has created this whole situation himself, he can blame playing position (which has been good enough everywhere else throughout his career until now), he can blame the club (who have put up with him and his clan of agents every transfer window very well including the current improved deal he is whining about not being good enough).

I don't buy the emotional and hot-headed though, i'd say more childish and stupid.

He has caused this situation aided and abetted by one man and his dog down South. All could have been avoided if he had gone about things the right way, the adult way, the respectful way.

If we cave in to demands like this from a prima donna like Pete then I will lose just as much respect for the people running this club as I have lost for the player himself.

If we end up keeping him I will back him for the time he is on the pitch, I will never boo him but I will also never sing his name again. Any goal he scores I will celebrate because its a goal for us, not because he has scored it.

I agree with that stance Oldbury. I think when Peter is in his early forties has finished and put his feet up he will reflect that he acted in the wrong manner towards a club that provided him with an opportunity he may well never have had.....a job in the PL
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 29, 2013, 07:41:41 PM
I agree with that stance Oldbury. I think when Peter is in his early forties has finished and put his feet up he will reflect that he acted in the wrong manner towards a club that provided him with an opportunity he may well never have had.....a job in the PL
Do you think he will give a dam.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 07:45:33 PM
Do you think he will give a dam.

Yes I do kc. I think most of us as we go through life look back and reflect on things we could have either done or handled better. Its a natural human instinct. Only the most hardened narcisistic individuals wouldnt show any remorse.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 29, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
After hearing Clarkes press conference I got the impression he wants to keep Odemwonga, he alluded to not wanting to loose our best players and said that he had made his feelings known to the club and they would be the ones that make the decision.
Seems Steves a bit miffed as well, refering to the club as THEY, and having made his feelings known to THEM!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 29, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
After hearing Clarkes press conference I got the impression he wants to keep Odemwonga, he alluded to not wanting to loose our best players and said that he had made his feelings known to the club and they would be the ones that make the decision.
Seems Steves a bit miffed as well, refering to the club as THEY, and having made his feelings known to THEM!

Steve Clarke in one press conference has talked more sense than 95% of what has been written in the press and on here about this topic. The club is clearly not squeaky clean in all this.

I hope Peter Odemwingie stays at the club and starts on Sunday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 08:32:33 PM
Steve Clarke in one press conference has talked more sense than 95% of what has been written in the press and on here about this topic. The club is clearly not squeaky clean in all this.

I hope Peter Odemwingie stays at the club and starts on Saturday.

How is the club not clean in this? They have made it clear from the start they don't want to sell PO. Only way to do that is to turn down offers for him, no?
That may be annoying to Odemwingie if he only is looking for money though, but why should the club care? You can't have it both ways, either you sell PO or you stonewall all offers for him.

Clarke is understandably annoyed that the club is prepared to listen to offers for Odemwingie now without a replacement lined up. Which coach wouldn't be? But that is how this club operates, we have an opportunity to cash in on PO and get more for him now than in the summer knowing Harry's spending habits. And to be fair to the club, once a player burns the bridges like PO did, things will never be the same.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 29, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
Steve Clarke in one press conference has talked more sense than 95% of what has been written in the press and on here about this topic. The club is clearly not squeaky clean in all this.

I hope Peter Odemwingie stays at the club and starts on Saturday.

He'll be a day early if he does!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2013, 08:52:18 PM
Steve Clarke in one press conference has talked more sense than 95% of what has been written in the press and on here about this topic. The club is clearly not squeaky clean in all this.

I hope Peter Odemwingie stays at the club and starts on Saturday.

So what are the club guilty of ? Please enlighten us how an employee with a contract until Summer 2014 and an alleged promise of a move in the Summer coming (according to the player himself) is in the right but his club are the guilty party ?

Why is it certain players can do no wrong in your eyes ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 08:58:43 PM
After hearing Clarkes press conference I got the impression he wants to keep Odemwonga, he alluded to not wanting to loose our best players and said that he had made his feelings known to the club and they would be the ones that make the decision.
Seems Steves a bit miffed as well, refering to the club as THEY, and having made his feelings known to THEM!

We have learnt in the past that Peace takes little notice of his managers/coaches !
SC knows that the Club will probably sell late on Wed/Thurs then make excuses about no time to bring anyone decent in - effectively Clarke will have had more quailty and GOALS pulled from his squad following on from the Gera injury and Wood sale. He knows that the squad looks threadbare know if just a few injuries and he could with a little help to try and pull things around and stop this nosedive we are experiencing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
And SC only has himself to blame if he is annoyed, he has been telling us he is happy with his squad when all of us have seen it has glaring holes in it. Clarke should have been more proactive in filling those holes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 09:02:18 PM
How is the club not clean in this? They have made it clear from the start they don't want to sell PO. Only way to do that is to turn down offers for him, no?
That may be annoying to Odemwingie if he only is looking for money though, but why should the club care? You can't have it both ways, either you sell PO or you stonewall all offers for him.

Clarke is understandably annoyed that the club is prepared to listen to offers for Odemwingie now without a replacement lined up. Which coach wouldn't be? But that is how this club operates, we have an opportunity to cash in on PO and get more for him now than in the summer knowing Harry's spending habits. And to be fair to the club, once a player burns the bridges like PO did, things will never be the same.

BUT , regardless, the Club have stated NO BUSINESS in January so we should stick to that barring a crazy offer.
If we are changing our stance, they PO and Arry will have one over us plus, if we do sell then I expect a quailty player in to compensate...................
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
And SC only has himself to blame if he is annoyed, he has been telling us he is happy with his squad when all of us have seen it has glaring holes in it. Clarke should have been more proactive in filling those holes.

SC was no doubt towing the Peace line - that's what he was told !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 09:07:42 PM
Odemwingie is our best goalscorer and one of our few creative threats. He's one of a handful of options that separates our squad from the likes of Norwich. We should keep him. Selling our best players is a step backwards, it's just common sense. As for all the fans slatting him for his Twitter meltdown, that's Pete for you, he's always been emotional and hot headed. More importantly he's been superb for us on the pitch. I will be very disappointed if we sell him.

The big worry is that we'll do things on the cheap again and not replace him properly.........remember we only have Lukaku until the end of the season so to lose quality like PO and Lukaku will be devestating blows to ourselves and would cost a fortune to replace so that we at least stand still.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
BUT , regardless, the Club have stated NO BUSINESS in January so we should stick to that barring a crazy offer.
If we are changing our stance, they PO and Arry will have one over us plus, if we do sell then I expect a quailty player in to compensate...................

Yes, that's why I would be surprised if we sold PO on the cheap, if we do that then I'd understand why Clarke would be annoyed. As I said I don't expect us to sell unless it's a stellar offer too good to turn down ie a crazy Harry January offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
The big worry is that we'll do things on the cheap again and not replace him properly.........remember we only have Lukaku until the end of the season so to lose quality like PO and Lukaku will be devestating blows to ourselves and would cost a fortune to replace so that we at least stand still.

Aye, I made that point in the general transfers thread.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 09:12:00 PM
Yes, that's why I would be surprised if we sold PO on the cheap, if we do that then I'd understand why Clarke would be annoyed. As I said I don't expect us to sell unless it's a stellar offer too good to turn down ie a crazy Harry January offer.

Worryingly, it seems like we might buckle for cheap £4/4.5m - what a gift in this day and age - AND sell him late so we cannot replace him. Plus would we ever really reinvest the transfer fee ?

LOSE LOSE situation for Albion I fear !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 29, 2013, 09:25:06 PM
Worryingly, it seems like we might buckle for cheap £4/4.5m - what a gift in this day and age - AND sell him late so we cannot replace him. Plus would we ever really reinvest the transfer fee ?

LOSE LOSE situation for Albion I fear !
Sell him for £1m per goal - thats the going rate and no less. Fletcher is your example on a strikers worth and if QPR want him  that bad I am sure JP will the Fernandes and Twitcher to stump up or stump off.

I really hope so anyway, as it will be annoying for him to go for less than £5m and us to have no replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 09:26:30 PM
Worryingly, it seems like we might buckle for cheap £4/4.5m - what a gift in this day and age - AND sell him late so we cannot replace him. Plus would we ever really reinvest the transfer fee ?

LOSE LOSE situation for Albion I fear !

Dejavu, eh? We've seen that move before haven't we. Oh the delights of being an Albion fan. Hope JP learnt that old lesson well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 29, 2013, 10:03:33 PM
So what are the club guilty of ? Please enlighten us how an employee with a contract until Summer 2014 and an alleged promise of a move in the Summer coming (according to the player himself) is in the right but his club are the guilty party ?

Why is it certain players can do no wrong in your eyes ?

I haven't said he has done no wrong, the twitter stuff is stupid because of how emotionally attached punters and story hungry hacks would obviously respond to it. It was disrespectful to the club, though I maintain he hasn't criticised the fans or indeed his teammates as many have suggested.

The saying goes it takes two to tango. Albion have a part in Odemwingie's apparent meltdown. Be it broken promises or stringing him along when he's asked questions. He also seems to be worried about going into the final year of his contract with no firm offer of an extension.

Both parties are at fault in my opinion.

On an aside, I see a lot of people are suggesting if he stays he should never play again. Well knowing Albion fans all it would take is two or three poor results with him available but sitting it out before the clamour would start for a recall. The number of people who post on here are a huge minority of the 20 thousand who rock up to the shrine on matchday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on January 29, 2013, 10:06:32 PM
Worryingly, it seems like we might buckle for cheap £4/4.5m - what a gift in this day and age - AND sell him late so we cannot replace him. Plus would we ever really reinvest the transfer fee ?

LOSE LOSE situation for Albion I fear !
think 4/4.5 mill is a good deal also don't need to buy got enough options and don't forget there's no need to panic
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 29, 2013, 10:24:12 PM
Harry talking about Crouch?!

Hmmm...

He knows we are better off selling whingy.  So he now shows interest in another striker making us think "oh oh! We better accept lord Harry's next offer as he has so many other irons in the fire and we're going to end up stuck with this idiot".

Sorry 'arry! JP has a brain, unlike some, and he'll get every penny he wants.

There is no way stoke will sell crouch, no way crouch would want to go to QPR and no way we are falling for this bull.

He really is a turd! Why do the PL chairmen tolerate his antics? He talks more about other teams players than his own. Disgrace to football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 29, 2013, 10:39:30 PM
And SC only has himself to blame if he is annoyed, he has been telling us he is happy with his squad when all of us have seen it has glaring holes in it. Clarke should have been more proactive in filling those holes.
No that's not fair on SC. It was a perfectly decent squad with Odemwingie an important part of it. Unless you are suggesting SC should have been able to predict this would happen. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 29, 2013, 10:41:13 PM
It's taken up to 80 pages for me to give up on this thread. I can't tell if some people are being deliberately controversial for no reason, or they've been on the Guinness.

The guy's an idiot, has made it quite clear he has no respect for the club or the people associated with it, and anyone condoning his actions might as well wish away half our squad if they deem his reasons acceptable. The only reason I haven't offered to drive the pratt down to QPR myself is because giving him his transfer now is simply unacceptable - he could have been gone by now if he'd not made such a mess of it and I for one, regardless of what the Odemwingie Fan Group think, will not support him should he play another game. I will boo him. I will not boo the 10 other players who want to be at the club and if they don't STILL put 100% into their time here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 10:44:13 PM
Think thats about right London. I think Peter might stick now and then the club will have a job on to patch things together for him. He will need to produce the goods if he does stay thats for sure. Probably usd up most of his goodwill at the Albion as it stands
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 10:45:29 PM
No that's not fair on SC. It was a perfectly decent squad with Odemwingie an important part of it. Unless you are suggesting SC should have been able to predict this would happen.

Well, what was SC's backup plan if he lost PO to injury for the rest of the season?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 10:48:16 PM
Think thats about right London. I think Peter might stick now and then the club will have a job on to patch things together for him. He will need to produce the goods if he does stay thats for sure. Probably usd up most of his goodwill at the Albion as it stands

He will never be the same though, the hunger and fire won't be there and the fans won't trust him and will be quick to criticize/get annoyed with him.

It's time for Princess Aladdin to get on his magic carpet. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2013, 10:48:40 PM
I haven't said he has done no wrong, the twitter stuff is stupid because of how emotionally attached punters and story hungry hacks would obviously respond to it. It was disrespectful to the club, though I maintain he hasn't criticised the fans or indeed his teammates as many have suggested.

The saying goes it takes two to tango. Albion have a part in Odemwingie's apparent meltdown. Be it broken promises or stringing him along when he's asked questions. He also seems to be worried about going into the final year of his contract with no firm offer of an extension.

Both parties are at fault in my opinion.

On an aside, I see a lot of people are suggesting if he stays he should never play again. Well knowing Albion fans all it would take is two or three poor results with him available but sitting it out before the clamour would start for a recall. The number of people who post on here are a huge minority of the 20 thousand who rock up to the shrine on matchday.

I think it was a big insult to the fans, the majority who have not criticised him, some have, some not, you read it differently.

I don't see the problem with the club not discussing anything beyond his current deal, if they have promised to let him move this Summer then they haven't broken that promise as we haven't got there. If they have not informed him of previous bids then how des he know ? also why should the club inform him if others make derisory offers which are immediately laughed off and the bidders never come back again ? The worry for a player about the future after his deal is the same one every other player goes through, thats the life of a footballer, Odemwingie is nothing special there in that and will be aware of that with every deal he signs. If he is confident in his ability then he knows he will always have clubs interested in him but he seems to prefer a move to a tinpot club in relegation trouble but can't find the actual words that are attracting him to the move yet every single person could do it for him - HE WANTS THE MONEY.

The club employ him as a footballer and he has a fantastic contract to do that job which is paid on time every single month so the club are doing their part of the deal.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 29, 2013, 10:49:18 PM
It's taken up to 80 pages for me to give up on this thread. I can't tell if some people are being deliberately controversial for no reason, or they've been on the Guinness.

The guy's an idiot, has made it quite clear he has no respect for the club or the people associated with it, and anyone condoning his actions might as well wish away half our squad if they deem his reasons acceptable. The only reason I haven't offered to drive the pratt down to QPR myself is because giving him his transfer now is simply unacceptable - he could have been gone by now if he'd not made such a mess of it and I for one, regardless of what the Odemwingie Fan Group think, will not support him should he play another game. I will boo him. I will not boo the 10 other players who want to be at the club and if they don't STILL put 100% into their time here.

Just say SC picked him for Spurs and he came out really fired up and delivered a commited top notch performance. Would you still boo him?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 29, 2013, 10:51:32 PM
Anyone who would be happy with under 10 million for PO must be crazy. He's our best attacking player by a considerable amount and irreplaceable unless we unearth a similar unknown who has flown under clubs radar.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 29, 2013, 10:51:55 PM
Well, what was SC's backup plan if he lost PO to injury for the rest of the season?
I think most people, agreed we were okay for strikers. With Lukaku, Long, Rosenberg and PO, most clubs would be happy. Of course out of that group, some will have injuries, suspensions, loss of form, but 4 ought to be enough to pick up the slack. But once someone's transferred 4 becomes 3  and your options are more limited.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on January 29, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
After hearing Clarkes press conference I got the impression he wants to keep Odemwonga, he alluded to not wanting to loose our best players and said that he had made his feelings known to the club and they would be the ones that make the decision.
Seems Steves a bit miffed as well, refering to the club as THEY, and having made his feelings known to THEM!

Can you point out to me where Clarke has said he’s miffed with the club? I don’t see anything in what he said at all.

Try reading between the lines.

Clarke says, “We want to keep our best players” = he isn’t going on the cheap Mr Redknapp.

What else does he say? “He’s free to go” = give us another half a million and he’s yours.

How about this scenario? ‘He agrees with the club that he should go at the right price, there’s no point keeping an unhappy player who’s been looking to leave ever since he signed the contract and has disrespected me, the club and the fans’.

Or is that not sinister enough?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 29, 2013, 10:53:53 PM
Just say SC picked him for Spurs and he came out really fired up and delivered a commited top notch performance. Would you still boo him?

A more pertinent question would be what if we lose to Everton, Spurs and Liverpool comfortably without scoring a goal and barely threatening one and Peter Odemwingie was kicking his heels at home picking up his "massive" £40k a week?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on January 29, 2013, 10:56:40 PM
I think most people, agreed we were okay for strikers. With Lukaku, Long, Rosenberg and PO, most clubs would be happy. Of course out of that group, some will have injuries, suspensions, loss of form, but 4 ought to be enough to pick up the slack. But once someone's transferred 4 becomes 3  and your options are more limited.

What about Fortune!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 29, 2013, 10:56:48 PM
If Pete was to go, then hopefully, we will still have enough threat with Lakaku and Long, to maintain our postion in the top half of the table.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 29, 2013, 10:58:18 PM
What about Fortune!

Not seen a great deal of Fortune, but he can still do a decent enough job for us, played well at Sunderland.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 11:00:55 PM
A more pertinent question would be what if we lose to Everton, Spurs and Liverpool comfortably without scoring a goal and barely threatening one and Peter Odemwingie was kicking his heels at home picking up his "massive" £40k a week?

Or what if the same happened only we had £8 million in the bank to invest in the summer? PO goes or PO stays, but he won't be the same player for us and I don't think the team will be the same if he plays for us again. Say what you want but he drunk all over SC and the other Albion players with his attitude and selfishness.
Just face it, PO is toast here. I know he is a quality player and we have a headache sorting Albion out on the pitch, but let's deal with that head ache and move on without PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
think 4/4.5 mill is a good deal also don't need to buy got enough options and don't forget there's no need to panic
Totally disagree and think that's being very complacent.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 29, 2013, 11:05:13 PM
Or what if the same happened only we had £8 million in the bank to invest in the summer? PO goes or PO stays, but he won't be the same player for us and I don't think the team will be the same if he plays for us again. Say what you want but he drunk all over SC and the other Albion players with his attitude and selfishness.
Just face it, PO is toast here. I know he is a quality player and we have a headache sorting Albion out on the pitch, but let's deal with that head ache and move on without PO.

Yet Clarke nor the players seem all that concerned about this apparent disrespect?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 11:05:30 PM
With Yacob and Mulumbu back in the middle and Thomas and Brunty on the flanks and Lukaku on top we should be ok. It's the wings that worry me the most. JT is aging and fragile and it would amaze me if he lasted the whole spring without another injury. We can also move Mozza to rw, Brunty to lw and slot in Dorrans as attacking midfielder. We should be ok without the primadonna, in fact it might gel the team again to have him gone.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 29, 2013, 11:06:18 PM
Totally disagree and think that's being very complacent.

I have a lot of confidence that Long and Lakaku can score goals and do a good job for us. However if one of those was to get injured then Fortune can do a good job but he lacks that threat that Long and Lakaku posses, and Rosenburg hasnt had enough game time so I cant judge on he would do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 11:06:59 PM
Yet Clarke nor the players seem all that concerned about this apparent disrespect?

Maybe they have a bit of maturity and don't want to wash it in public?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 29, 2013, 11:08:46 PM
I think most people, agreed we were okay for strikers. With Lukaku, Long, Rosenberg and PO, most clubs would be happy. Of course out of that group, some will have injuries, suspensions, loss of form, but 4 ought to be enough to pick up the slack. But once someone's transferred 4 becomes 3  and your options are more limited.

And arguably the best of the lot (Lukaku) will have be replaced come the end of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 29, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
And arguably the best of the lot (Lukaku) will have be replaced come the end of the season.

So we may need to find too very good replacments and a back up depending on Fortune.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on January 29, 2013, 11:14:05 PM
QPR have made a enquiry for Peter Crouch according to Talksport. Odemwonga must be getting a tad worried. Can't see QPR signing both.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 29, 2013, 11:15:42 PM
QPR have made a enquiry for Peter Crouch according to Talksport. Odemwonga must be getting a tad worried. Can't see QPR signing both.

They already have Remy too, last 48 hours of the window will be intresting now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on January 29, 2013, 11:23:41 PM
 8) No good keeping a player when he doesn't want to be here!!
He will not put the effort in....might as well give the Tea-Lady a run.

It would be spineless of us and would cause a disruption with the other players...who have given PO the glare on more than one occasion on the field...because of his selfishness.

He is a very talented player...but this disrespect of the Club and management has been too much to bare.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 29, 2013, 11:35:32 PM
Guess this is why the Anderlecht manager didn't sign Odemwingie when PO was on trial there. Kompany said PO scored 5 goals but the coach said he was too selfish...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 30, 2013, 06:34:22 AM
Can you point out to me where Clarke has said he’s miffed with the club? I don’t see anything in what he said at all.

Try reading between the lines.

Clarke says, “We want to keep our best players” = he isn’t going on the cheap Mr Redknapp.

What else does he say? “He’s free to go” = give us another half a million and he’s yours.

How about this scenario? ‘He agrees with the club that he should go at the right price, there’s no point keeping an unhappy player who’s been looking to leave ever since he signed the contract and has disrespected me, the club and the fans’.

Or is that not sinister enough?

Read it again!
I said 'he seemed a bit miffed' refering to his general tone in the press conference.
Refering to  the club as 'them' and 'they' suggest two different trails of thought within the camp.
Try reading the text, not between the lines
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 09:06:04 AM
Stoke's Pulis admits they are thinking about selling Crouch to QPR as 'Arry has inquired about him. We know Harry loves to sign Crouch.

If QPR doesn't pursue their interest in PO he will be left with a lot of egg on his face, a lot of explaining to do and a lot of excuses to make. But he won't, will he.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 30, 2013, 09:19:17 AM
Yup, stoke have also enquired about Bent so Crouch to QPR could well be a possibility.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 30, 2013, 09:21:21 AM
A lot of noise from QPR with regard Capoue and Crouch but not much about Odemwingie. Stoke looking to secure deals for Jones and Crouch to make a deal for Bent. Could be a very interesting end of the window. Not sure what I want to happen, but as long as Odemwingie doesn't force himself a deal I'm ok. Villa with some money may ruin an otherwise fantastic campaign from them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 30, 2013, 09:25:02 AM
Yet Clarke nor the players seem all that concerned about this apparent disrespect?
Well SC and the players weren't going to go on Twitter and air their true feelings were they ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on January 30, 2013, 09:29:23 AM
Stoke's Pulis admits they are thinking about selling Crouch to QPR as 'Arry has inquired about him. We know Harry loves to sign Crouch.

If QPR doesn't pursue their interest in PO he will be left with a lot of egg on his face, a lot of explaining to do and a lot of excuses to make. But he won't, will he.

Pete will be gone by the close of the window in my opinion. Harry is playing the game I/e trying to put doubt in JP + SC mind that the PO boat is leaving port, SC has said he is happy to keep PO lets see who wins.
PO has scored some great goals for us but
 HE MUST NEVER BE ALOUD TO WEAR A ALBION EVER AGAIN
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 09:42:51 AM
Pete will be gone by the close of the window in my opinion. Harry is playing the game I/e trying to put doubt in JP + SC mind that the PO boat is leaving port, SC has said he is happy to keep PO lets see who wins.
PO has scored some great goals for us but
 HE MUST NEVER BE ALOUD TO WEAR A ALBION EVER AGAIN

Well, it's not only 'Arry that's making noises it's also Pulis, and if Pulis has made an inquiry about Bent then they need to make space for him at Stoke. I would still be surprised if PO is our player on Friday morning, but his new club might not be QPR. Then again nobody was impressed with PO's public meltdown so maybe he is a bit of 'damaged goods' now.

I do think SC is happy to keep Pete, at least for this spring.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
What are the odds Villa sell Bent to Stoke for £10 million or so then turn around and buy PO from us for that money... Keeping them up, just about... :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 30, 2013, 09:58:37 AM
What are the odds Villa sell Bent to Stoke for £10 million or so then turn around and buy PO from us for that money... Keeping them up, just about... :P
If bent goes for 10m , lamberk will only see about 4/5m of that , would peace sell to vile for 5m?
I've said before I think Fulham /reading/Newcastle or a foreign club may come in and that would be the best solution.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 30, 2013, 10:15:43 AM
I wouldn't think Po outburst on twitter has endeared him to a lot of mangers out there, probably done himself more harm than good.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 30, 2013, 10:38:20 AM
Reading between the lines here maybe but sounds to me like Peter has not got any friends in the dressing room the way he has gone about things

"Graham has said he wants a transfer but has gone about his business in the right way and is still part of the group and well respected."
“There are different ways to try to get yourself a move. Not every player will try to force the issue as Peter has.”
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: monkey nuts on January 30, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
Quote from: TheJacko2000 on Yesterday at 11:04:01 PM
Yet Clarke nor the players seem all that concerned about this apparent disrespect?

i can assure you they are mate
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 30, 2013, 11:13:36 AM

QPR have resurrected the deal to sign Peter Odemwingie – and the consequence is they have told DJ Campbell he is free to leave.

Boss Harry Redknapp rates the born-and-bred west Londoner. But Rangers are confident they can finally land Odemwingie from West Brom before the transfer window closes tomorrow night (Thursday) at 11pm.

Campbell rejected terms offered by Hull City 48 hours ago, but yesterday two more unknown Championship clubs made soundings for the 31-year-old striker who is out of contract in the summer.

Rangers are ready to tweak a second £2m offer for Odemwingie, who made it plain through Twitter he was determined to leave The Hawthorns and throw his lot in with the club battling to avoid the Premier League drop



Read More http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-qpr/2013/01/30/82029-32709701/#ixzz2JSLkOeGN
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on January 30, 2013, 11:14:18 AM
What are the odds Villa sell Bent to Stoke for £10 million or so then turn around and buy PO from us for that money... Keeping them up, just about... :P

Fair point GrGr but I'm not bothered one way our the other were he ends up as long has he NEVER WEAR's A ALBION SHIRT EVER AGAIN
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Groovephil on January 30, 2013, 11:15:35 AM
For me, we keep him and let him take all the abuse in the world until the summer when we offload him to the middle east. I couldn't care less about him now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on January 30, 2013, 11:28:13 AM
Quote from: TheJacko2000 on Yesterday at 11:04:01 PM
Yet Clarke nor the players seem all that concerned about this apparent disrespect?

i can assure you they are mate
How do you know??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 30, 2013, 11:34:36 AM
Could be petes replacement

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rumour-mill-west-bromwich-albion-1275284
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: monkey nuts on January 30, 2013, 12:04:43 PM
How do you know??

having seen other people shot down let's just say i know for now mate not getting anyone in trouble (yes i know what will be said but i can live with that, it's not like i post rumours ever unless i know it's fact)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 30, 2013, 12:10:42 PM
Could be petes replacement

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/rumour-mill-west-bromwich-albion-1275284

Half owned by Juventus, not sure how those deals work.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on January 30, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
Twitch is going after Crouch now, perhaps PO may remain!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 30, 2013, 03:21:20 PM
Twitch is going after Crouch now, perhaps PO may remain!

Oh joy! Any abuse he gets is justified and his own fault.

Not sure why it's not been mentioned but Odemwingie has been making noises about moving for the last few windows, why wouldn't he have put in some release clause on his contract? We were willing to let Jonas have one?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 30, 2013, 03:55:10 PM
Rumours on the twitter is that Sunderland have put a bid in of £4.5 million for Odemwingie.

I think IF it is true we should snatch their hands off!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Slimbo on January 30, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
Rumours on the twitter is that Sunderland have put a bid in of £4.5 million for Odemwingie.

I think IF it is true we should snatch their hands off!

That would be interesting on the 23 Feb when we play them at the shrine
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
Rumours on the twitter is that Sunderland have put a bid in of £4.5 million for Odemwingie.

I think IF it is true we should snatch their hands off!

Eh, no we shouldn't. Not enough value for us to strengthen a direct rival for relative peanuts. We should be looking for close to double that. Let's hope for a bidding war and open checkbooks come Thursday evening.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on January 30, 2013, 04:50:16 PM
Eh, no we shouldn't. Not enough value for us to strengthen a direct rival for relative peanuts. We should be looking for close to double that. Let's hope for a bidding war and open checkbooks come Thursday evening.

There's no way someone will give us £9m but I'd rather see him go to Sunderland and urine 'Arry off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on January 30, 2013, 04:53:02 PM
There's no way someone will give us £9m but I'd rather see him go to Sunderland and pee 'Arry off.

Exactly!

However, if anyone has a history of over spending for players it O'Neil!  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
There's no way someone will give us £9m but I'd rather see him go to Sunderland and pee 'Arry off.

Not nine but def more than 6 million (Zamora price) so say around 7+. If they bid 4.5 now there's still a bit overhead to fill and another 2.5 is not much for clubs like them. If we sell PO for less than Fulham got for Zamora I will be very disappointed and see it is an outright defeat for JP.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 30, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
There's no way someone will give us £9m but I'd rather see him go to Sunderland and pee 'Arry off.

Odemwingies not worth 9 million id say take no less then 5 myself.

He is coming 32 (maybe already is)has less then a year and a half left on his contract, has a bad attitude and has a reputation for being a abit of a bad apple.

4-5 million sounds good to me
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 04:59:44 PM
There's no way someone will give us £9m but I'd rather see him go to Sunderland and pee 'Arry off.

If we give him away for 4.5 million we might as well give him to Reading. We could barely by a decent championship winger for 4.5 million, can't see the point in letting PO go for that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on January 30, 2013, 05:00:25 PM
Not nine but def more than 6 million (Zamora price) so say around 7+. If they bid 4.5 now there's still a bit overhead to fill and another 2.5 is not much for clubs like them. If we sell PO for less than Fulham got for Zamora I will be very disappointed and see it is an outright defeat for JP.

But clubs know we're in a tricky position.  We either sell or have a sulking Pete on our hands.  (And if Pete decided to knuckle down and play well the crowd won't give him a minute's rest - they were already overly critical and that's before this saga).

Considering all that the only way the price will go up is if it turns into a bidding war between a coupe of clubs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 30, 2013, 05:00:36 PM
Odemwingies not worth 9 million id say take no less then 5 myself.

He is coming 32 (maybe already is)has less then a year and a half left on his contract, has a bad attitude and has a reputation for being a abit of a bad apple.

4-5 million sounds good to me

If true, snatch Sunderlands hand off! Bad egg, nasty smell!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 30, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Odemwingies not worth 9 million id say take no less then 5 myself.

He is coming 32 (maybe already is)has less then a year and a half left on his contract, has a bad attitude and has a reputation for being a abit of a bad apple.

4-5 million sounds good to me
We should not sell him for less than £7.5m and if old Arry or O'neil want him thats the price.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 05:05:02 PM
Can't believe people are prepared to accept the first bid coming our way with more than a day to go of the window. QPR will come in with 5, Sunderland 5.5, Reading says 6, Sunderland 6.5, Reading 7 and Harry storms in with 8 million. Case closed.  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on January 30, 2013, 05:10:38 PM
His recent behaviour suggests that he will be gone.

If QPR aren't prepared to pay for him, his agent will be calling every other club going as theres no way back for PO here!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 05:12:14 PM
We should not sell him for less than £7.5m and if old Arry or O'neil want him thats the price.

Indeed, if we can't milk Dodgy Arry and Agent O'Neil for more than a measly £4.5 million for PO (remember Ellington?) we might as well close shop.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 30, 2013, 05:22:11 PM
Given his public meltdown who would really pay over the odds other than desperate QPR ? , we may get calls about lower bids or loan deals but after his weekend show would you lump up big on him ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on January 30, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
And yet another January the club will make a profit on player sales. If/when PO is sold that means we will have taken depending on what we sell him for we could be up by around 7-9 million with the other outs and with EL G now gone and Gera out for the rest of the season.
We really need some fresh faces to lift the team.
Im sorry to rant but this window just seems another waste where we could have pushed on and succured a good place in the league maybe pushed for europe.
But now what we will have is a gaping hole to fill in the summer instead of intergrating some players into the team now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 30, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
Just been on a Sunderland message board.Not chatting about Odemwonga as of yet
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 30, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
A curious report in The Times today (11/01/12).
QPR have been offered Odemwinge, who is surplus to requirements at WBA.


The first post on this topic a year ago
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DevonBaggie on January 30, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
And yet another January the club will make a profit on player sales. If/when PO is sold that means we will have taken depending on what we sell him for we could be up by around 7-9 million with the other outs and with EL G now gone and Gera out for the rest of the season.
We really need some fresh faces to lift the team.
Im sorry to rant but this window just seems another waste where we could have pushed on and succured a good place in the league maybe pushed for europe.
But now what we will have is a gaping hole to fill in the summer instead of intergrating some players into the team now.



Trust me mate, after the season Newcastle are having, I'd rather not have Europe.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 30, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Some of the speculation of Odemwingies worth is really way off, IF he goes (& I hope he does personally) anything over 5 million will be a massive bonus, no club (even a little tinpot one with more money then sense) starts with a bid of 2 million if in fact they're going to offer 8/9 million on the last day.

My offer to twitchy would be give us 4 million + Hoilett & you can have the pleasure of PO for a couple of months.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we have 1 or 2 little irons in other fires, especially with El G being allowed to leave.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 30, 2013, 05:40:34 PM
I just think the whole cant be in the league and in Europe is a psychological thing. Newcastle had a good squad, so whats the difference. Why cant you have both? Whats the difference between playing Thursday - Sunday than playing on a Wednesday night and a Saturdat?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 05:41:06 PM
Trust me mate, after the season Newcastle are having, I'd rather not have Europe.

Exactly, since 'we don't do business in January' (or have an extra £25-30 million in cash lying around to save our season) Europe = relegation battle we'd be lucky to escape.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 30, 2013, 05:54:10 PM
Exactly, since 'we don't do business in January' (or have an extra £25-30 million in cash lying around to save our season) Europe = relegation battle we'd be lucky to escape.

But you know our lot, competing in Europe but facing a relegation battle is some people's idea of ambition. We're a well run, take-your-time-and-do-things-right club who can't pour money down the drain and punch above our weight.

Looking at the Europa League, approached correctly, when a club is ready, you can do VERY well. Look at Fulham, and even Stoke and Birmingham got some results out there last season. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, I'd rather take 10 years to slowly get ourselves good enough to compete on two fronts than have an amazing season and pay for it the next.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 30, 2013, 05:54:34 PM
Anyone who thinks a 32 yr old Pete is worth £8,9,10m is on crack. If we spent £10m on a 32 yr old I can just imagine the backlash. Give us £3-4m and I would drive him there myself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 30, 2013, 05:56:56 PM
Very true, once we have a solid, professional squad that doesn't smack of the championship as soon as you scratch the surface I will happily campaign in Europe.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 30, 2013, 06:25:42 PM
Well said Baggie79! I can see us getting £5m maximum, he is a 32 year old diva who has scored goals but also plays well 1 in every 4, no coincidence no top clubs have come in for him now, or ever have done during his career.

He has been good for Albion and will always appreciate that but he isnt a first team regular, he is an idiot and he brings baggage, any club looking to put in a bid will put all those things into consideration. I would imagine QPR have learnt there lessons from past years and wont pay stupid transfer fees for 30 plus yr olds, and i think football has moved on from when we got big fees for the Kamaras, Koumas, etc.

For a bloke who i feel we have had seen his best days, doesnt want to play for us anymore and probably will offer nothing for the rest of the season if he did stay due to his all about me attitude, i would sell £4-5m for business reasons, but the annoyed side of me still wants us to demand stupid money of £7-£8m, price him out of a move, make him stay and face the music and show petulant little brats dont always get there own way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 30, 2013, 06:36:49 PM
If you want to strip it right down would you rather us gain £4m in transfer fees or lose £2m in wages?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 30, 2013, 06:43:07 PM
If you want to strip it right down would you rather us gain £4m in transfer fees or lose £2m in wages?

Depends whom that money benefits !  Would it ever be reinvested in a quality replacement ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 30, 2013, 06:56:02 PM
Depends whom that money benefits !  Would it ever be reinvested in a quality replacement ?

We can buy the same player for £5m now or £2m in the summer. Should we waste money just for the sake of being impatient?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on January 30, 2013, 06:59:41 PM
Read it again!
I said 'he seemed a bit miffed' refering to his general tone in the press conference.
Refering to  the club as 'them' and 'they' suggest two different trails of thought within the camp.
Try reading the text, not between the lines

Whatever it is you’re seeing in his tone, is pure guesswork. Newspapers love a story about a club board and a manager having problems, it doesn’t need our own fans trying to stir up trouble. 

“He returned home yesterday and we gave him another day off today just to make sure everything is okay at home.

“QPR have put two bids in for Peter. The club have looked at them and turned them down, feeling that at this time, in this window, the bids weren’t acceptable for us.

“We can certainly keep Peter because if QPR don’t come up with an offer that is acceptable, you can’t just let a player go.

“That’s unfortunate for us, unfortunate for QPR and unfortunate for Peter, because now we have a situation that has developed over the last few days that is not good for anybody.”


http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/odemwingie-misses-everton-trip-627103.aspx?pageView=full#anchored
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on January 30, 2013, 07:02:01 PM
Have to get at least eight million for the greedy sod if twitcher wants him so bad then there's  the price were in a relatively  save place should stay up twitchers lot are bottom of the league trying to survive with money to burn so let's take them for a few quid (if they survive its only because they broke the bank not like when we survived)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 30, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
For me if you look at the long term we should sell him now at an inflated price, keep the cash and then reinvest in the summer when really good deals are available and we could get two or three players for the price of one rush deal now when we are safe already. Also I would prefer to leave Europe until we have the squad to cope with it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 30, 2013, 07:33:50 PM
It depends how much money we get for him baggie79.

At the moment he is a very important member of the team. Yes in the summer we may well have sold him but I still think we could have got 2 million plus for him then so I dont see the logic in selling for any fee even close to that in January really - you may as well have kept him for the rest of the season if you cant get an inflated price.

His twitter out bursts and his desperate attempt to push through a sale these last few weeks have changed things a bit and maybe pushed the asking price down from 5 million to closer 4 but surely we have to set an example, firstly to our current players than we can not be bullied, and also to other clubs that we will not sell cheaply whatever games you play.

If we can not sell him this January, we will still get 2-2.5 million for him in the summer from one of the promoted clubs desperate for goals to keep them up for a year, or even from a team from abroad.  It wont be the amount we could get now but for the sake of 1 million, if QPR do only offer 3 - 3.5 million, then I would rather take the financial hit if it means sending a message out to players and clubs alike.

For me, we should be looking for in the region of 4 to 5 million (realistically 4.2 million), although i'm starting to believe we will probably accept 3.5 which I don't think is enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 30, 2013, 07:42:10 PM
Just listening to Steve Clarke on WM being interviewed on WM re Odemwingie, I thought he handled the questions very well making it  clear that Odemwingie was in the wrong but not shutting the door on his return. Plainly if QPR leave Odemwingie hanging in the wind which is starting to look likely Clarke intends to a least try to get something from him over the remainder of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on January 30, 2013, 08:01:17 PM
Memo to PO Suarez starting on the l/h side for Liverpool,is influencing the game but my sources understand DOESN´T want to join QPR!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 30, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
Badly missed tonight for what it's worth  :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 30, 2013, 11:05:39 PM
Badly missed tonight for what it's worth  :-X
Not in this very stale system!, not sure if even a tuned in Pete could help that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 30, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
Not in this very stale system!, not sure if even a tuned in Pete could help that.

We were toothless mate, and Dorrans who played in his likely position was garbage.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 30, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
We were toothless mate, and Dorrans who played in his likely position was garbage.
I wouldn't have said Dorrans was garbage , thats harsh. Lets be honest Pete wouldn't have been much better against Baines and Pienarr as he most likely would have been pinned in.Too many players out of position in a stale, toothless system.If we don't replace Pete and he leaves the club serious questions need to be asked.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on January 30, 2013, 11:14:34 PM
From what Clarke says, there doesn't seem to be a lot of movement in the deal.

As much as all he has done has annoyed and offended me(I know it hasn't for some others, personal view!), his ability is something we will sorely miss.

If he is here, bridges need to be re-built because we can't have a player as good as him in the reserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 30, 2013, 11:16:10 PM
We were toothless mate, and Dorrans who played in his likely position was garbage.

Jacko in shock Odemwingie praise/Dorrans criticism.

Dorrans wasn't garbage, although he isn't really the answer out wide being better in the centre of midfield. We may have missed Odemwingie but we also missed Gera as they were out best 2 wide men, but I think the greater loss was that of the Mulumbu/Full fit Yacob partnership. They have not played together for over 2 months - we have been poor ever since.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 30, 2013, 11:18:01 PM
From what Clarke says, there doesn't seem to be a lot of movement in the deal.

As much as all he has done has annoyed and offended me(I know it hasn't for some others, personal view!), his ability is something we will sorely miss.

If he is here, bridges need to be re-built because we can't have a player as good as him in the reserves.

Transfer deadline day is a crazy desperate place. He will have signed for somebody come 11 pm, be it QPR, Sunderland, or even Arsenal, Spurs or Man City.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 30, 2013, 11:25:48 PM
Jacko in shock Odemwingie praise/Dorrans criticism.

Dorrans wasn't garbage, although he isn't really the answer out wide being better in the centre of midfield. We may have missed Odemwingie but we also missed Gera as they were out best 2 wide men, but I think the greater loss was that of the Mulumbu/Full fit Yacob partnership. They have not played together for over 2 months - we have been poor ever since.

Beg to differ, constantly gave the ball away, and got caught in possession. Plays the game at walking pace, offered Jones no protection then moaned at him when he was outnumbered. His one piece of quality counted for nothing as it only hit the bar. He's not good enough at this level. In any position.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 30, 2013, 11:44:33 PM
Beg to differ, constantly gave the ball away, and got caught in possession. Plays the game at walking pace, offered Jones no protection then moaned at him when he was outnumbered. His one piece of quality counted for nothing as it only hit the bar. He's not good enough at this level. In any position.
Nowhere near as bad as you make out but then again it's you talking about Dorrans so it counts for little in all fairness.Played well in the middle against Villa but put out wide and did OK, this is the Odemwingie thread so lets head back to that please everybody!.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: timdon on January 30, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
Well there's a surprise. Dorrans can do no right, Brunt  and Odemwingie can do no wrong. I think sometimes your bias about these players means that your posts lose some credibility, which is a shame because on other occasions I am much in agreement with you. Perhaps an occasional acknowledgement that Dorrans has played well, or that Brunt played poorly, which has undoubtedly been the case on occasions this season for both players (although the opposite has also been true sometimes), would help to redress the balance a bit
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 31, 2013, 12:14:19 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom--qpr-transfers-1564242

Only in the Mirror so probably a load of old tosh. I would snatch their arm off
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 12:16:46 AM
I would be sad to see Pete go but Hoilett would ideal for what we need.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2013, 12:17:23 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom--qpr-transfers-1564242

Only in the Mirror so probably a load of old tosh. I would snatch their arm off

I would consider that although not as a straight swap, I'd still want 3 or 4 million plus Hoillett for Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 12:25:16 AM
I would consider that although not as a straight swap, I'd still want 3 or 4 million plus Hoillett for Odemwingie.
I'd guess Hoilett still has loads on his contract where Pete doesn't , with that in mind 2 million plus Hoilett would do me if we must sell Pete.I dread to think what wage Hoilett is on though......
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2013, 12:33:23 AM
I'd guess Hoilett still has loads on his contract where Pete doesn't , with that in mind 2 million plus Hoilett would do me if we must sell Pete.I dread to think what wage Hoilett is on though......

Indeed if our fans think Odemwingie's wages are obscene, which many obviously do, I imagine 22 year old Hoillett with one decent season in a team that got relegated behind him will be on at least the same wage and so how would we/they react to a few below par performances or appearances late at night in Brum city centre?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2013, 12:36:34 AM
If we could get Hoilett, who was absolutely superb last season, I would take that as a direct swap. He's everything we need. Having said that he must be on huge wages to go to QPR in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if we did do a deal with Odemwingie going and Hoilett on loan till the end of the season though.

Had Hoilett not been out of contract last year he'd have been worth about 10m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on January 31, 2013, 12:39:04 AM
Would like that deal, really rated Hoillett of what I have seen......

Saw that at the bottom paying Samba 100K a week  :-\
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: richjonawba on January 31, 2013, 12:39:10 AM
id swap Odemwingie for Hoilett and £1million to be honest, Hoilett has massive potential and Odemwingie wants out, would be a good deal for us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on January 31, 2013, 12:40:37 AM
If we could get Hoilett, who was absolutely superb last season, I would take that as a direct swap. He's everything we need. Having said that he must be on huge wages to go to QPR in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if we did do a deal with Odemwingie going and Hoilett on loan till the end of the season though.

I'd be happy with Hoillet on a Permanent deal. He's a great talent. Similar sort of player to Pete as well but much younger.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 12:49:54 AM
We were toothless mate, and Dorrans who played in his likely position was garbage.

Comment I expected. Fact is meltdown or not Pete would not have played tonight as Clarke seems to prefer a more natural midfielder away from home. Dorrans was not 'garbage' but I take your views on Dorrans with a pinch of salt especially as he was certainly no worse than either Morrison or Brunt.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2013, 12:53:38 AM
Comment I expected. Fact is meltdown or not Pete would not have played tonight as Clarke seems to prefer a more natural midfielder away from home. Dorrans was not 'garbage' but I take your views on Dorrans with a pinch of salt especially as he was certainly no worse than either Morrison or Brunt.

Neither gave the ball away half as much, neither shirked responsibility when tracking back. I take your comments on Dorrans with a pinch of salt too mate, you rate him highly based on a season at a lower level 3 years ago and seem to take offence whenever he is criticised.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2013, 12:57:24 AM
Neither gave the ball away half as much, neither shirked responsibility when tracking back. I take your comments on Dorrans with a pinch of salt too mate, you rate him highly based on a season at a lower level 3 years ago and seem to take offence whenever he is criticised.

Or as others would call it, whenever you post.

For the record, I felt Morrison and Yacob gave the ball away more than Dorrans. Dorrans was poor in his defensive work as the game went on although that seemed to be more about ability rather than him not trying. The whole team were poor today though and Jones and Popov seemed the worst of the lot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 01:00:12 AM
Neither gave the ball away half as much, neither shirked responsibility when tracking back. I take your comments on Dorrans with a pinch of salt too mate, you rate him highly based on a season at a lower level 3 years ago and seem to take offence whenever he is criticised.

No, if he's rubbish i'll say he's rubbish. Tonight I didn't think he was rubbish.

I rate him on what I see, I don't live in the past and tonight if you think that Morrison or Brunt were any better than Dorrans then thats upto you, I disagree 100%, Brunt watched people dance around him apart from one tackle and Morrison may well have sat on the bench all night.

I don't take offence when Dorrans gets criticised at all, I could use that one at you with certain players but me ? I wouldn't stoop that low.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2013, 01:07:05 AM
Or as others would call it, whenever you post.

For the record, I felt Morrison and Yacob gave the ball away more than Dorrans. Dorrans was poor in his defensive work as the game went on although that seemed to be more about ability rather than him not trying. The whole team were poor today though and Jones and Popov seemed the worst of the lot.

Really? I've made over two thousand posts mate, so that is a very unfair comment... I'd report to moderator but then you are one so what's the point?

Yacob hardly gave the ball away once. And Morrison was neat and tidy but couldn't get in the game. Dorrans even stooped so low as to try and blame Thorne for his own poor tracking back, but encouragingly the youngster was having none of it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2013, 01:11:15 AM
Really? I've made over two thousand posts mate, so that is a very unfair comment... I'd report to moderator but then you are one so what's the point?

Yacob hardly gave the ball away once. And Morrison was neat and tidy but couldn't get in the game. Dorrans even stooped so low as to try and blame Thorne for his own poor tracking back, but encouragingly the youngster was having none of it.

Give up with the faux-outrage, you know you slate Dorrans all of the time, no point pretending you do not.

As for Yacob, i'm a huge fan however he was wasteful a times on the ball. I think there are tools online that can be used to look at stats and id imagine it would show Yacob's pass completion was not great today. He is struggling with match fitness at the moment.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2013, 01:15:11 AM
Give up with the faux-outrage, you know you slate Dorrans all of the time, no point pretending you do not.

As for Yacob, i'm a huge fan however he was wasteful a times on the ball. I think there are tools online that can be used to look at stats and id imagine it would show Yacob's pass completion was not great today. He is struggling with match fitness at the moment.

Yet if I'd said the same to you I'd have got a PM? I slate Dorrans when I think he deserves it, unfortunately since "that" season in the Chumpionship, he's made it a regular occurrence...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 01:25:05 AM
id swap Odemwingie for Hoilett and £1million to be honest, Hoilett has massive potential and Odemwingie wants out, would be a good deal for us

Wonder if Hoilett would be interested though, and if we are prepared to pay his bloated QPR wages. We are desperate for some life for our wings and if he is fit again after his injury plagued season and wanted to come it would be hard to turn down a young promising, hungry winger.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 31, 2013, 01:42:43 AM
Wonder if Hoilett would be interested though, and if we are prepared to pay his bloated QPR wages. We are desperate for some life for our wings and if he is fit again after his injury plagued season and wanted to come it would be hard to turn down a young promising, hungry winger.

I wonder if Hoilett has a wage-cut in his contract if they get relegated, that could be a factor in him coming here, his wages might be dropping to somewhere our level if they go down anyway. Not to mention he is not a Redknapp signing and has not featured much.

I would be over the moon if we got him, I really hope the story is true. It would be perfect. Just the lift we need.

Hoilett also seems to score loads against the Dingles.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on January 31, 2013, 01:57:18 AM
Wages would be the issue Hoilett is on more than Odemwingie is currently on according to Chris Lepkowski. It is a measure of how completely bloated QPR's wages are rather than any indication of the players worth.  Nedum Onuoha is apparently on £60k a week it is plain that QPR are the absolute mugs of English football and agents have been forming an orderly queue to get their players a spot in a land of milk and honey. What the likes of Hill, Derry and Mackie who have been carrying some of their better paid teammates  make of it is anyones guess
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on January 31, 2013, 08:23:04 AM
he's on 39k pw according to CL. About the same as Pete. Wouldn't want to pay him more than £25-30k pw though. Would offer him this and performance related add ons. Make up the rest of his wages in assists and goals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on January 31, 2013, 08:29:34 AM
Id be happy with him & 1mil....seem to remember lots on here wanting him before he went to qpr
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbastrollers on January 31, 2013, 08:36:32 AM
Yet if I'd said the same to you I'd have got a PM? I slate Dorrans when I think he deserves it, unfortunately since "that" season in the Chumpionship, he's made it a regular occurrence...

No you don't, you "slate" Dorrans constantly, you are blinded by your virulent hate campaign against Dorrans, even in this PO Transfer thread you could not help yourself and bring up Dorrans, unfortunately, I like others treat your posts with the contempt they deserve.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 31, 2013, 09:19:32 AM
he's on 39k pw according to CL. About the same as Pete. Wouldn't want to pay him more than £25-30k pw though. Would offer him this and performance related add ons. Make up the rest of his wages in assists and goals.

Hoilett is on more there than Odemwingie is on here, a victim of Mark Hughes throwing money around. He is one of those young players that can either be happy sitting there on the bench if he's lucky or moving on while taking a wage drop so he can actually have a chance of playing games.

I would have no problem with paying Hoilett the same as Odemwingie is on now, he's a young player with bags of ability and could make a big difference to our season when he's fully match fit after not getting many games down there. A straight swap would be a decent enough deal when you take into account the length of contract left for both players and their ages, I'm surprised no one seemed to consider this a possibility on here early on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 31, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
Well it looks as though PO could be starting to worry about his move..
He's feeling awfully sorry for himself in his latest tweet ..

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Things are getting worse or funnier. Some say any press is good. Never seen anyone who will want this kind off press hahaha it's not funny !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 31, 2013, 09:35:15 AM
Also an interesting opinion from Pete in that he may not get his move ? Pete's response in bold..

     

    @OdemwingieP Hey Peter,if Harry doesn't get Crouch he might want you again!How does that make you feel?You made a mistake-more wanted at WBA
   
 

   we will see later today. The talk and answer I wanted from the club, i got it yesterday. Could it be late now ?
   
   

    @OdemwingieP Never too late Peter.You may have to swallow your pride & publicly make peace with everyone again.Sorry isalways hard to say..




I am ready to swallow any pride if there is any inside me, because I want to make it to heaven ! Let the Fathers come out now !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 31, 2013, 09:35:30 AM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
Any PO - Hoilett swap deal not looking likely at this stage. From the looks of it this isn't being driven by #wba...more like agent/QPR
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 31, 2013, 09:37:30 AM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
Any PO - Hoilett swap deal not looking likely at this stage. From the looks of it this isn't being driven by #wba...more like agent/QPR

Not really a surprise if its being driven from their end but would be a good deal if it was actually on offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on January 31, 2013, 09:41:24 AM
Well it looks as though PO could be starting to worry about his move..
He's feeling awfully sorry for himself in his latest tweet ..

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Things are getting worse or funnier. Some say any press is good. Never seen anyone who will want this kind off press hahaha it's not funny !
Moaning about bad press? hahaha the irony!! If you choose to slag your club/ fans and disrespect anyone connected to the club off via media then you reap what you sow surely?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 09:44:01 AM
So which one is it?

Mackie is exactly the kind of striker we don't need, all toil and no quality. If you want to be midtable plus, you need players with technical ability., Hoilett isn't good enough imho, to have a real impact on games which is why he can't make a struggling QPR team in the relegation zone. We don't need any QPR reserves, we need players who have that bit of quality to their games. Odemwingie will be very difficult indeed to replace, players that can decide PL games by their own skill are very rare and very valuable.

Or this?

Wonder if Hoilett would be interested though, and if we are prepared to pay his bloated QPR wages. We are desperate for some life for our wings and if he is fit again after his injury plagued season and wanted to come it would be hard to turn down a young promising, hungry winger.

 :-\

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on January 31, 2013, 09:45:12 AM
Not really a surprise if its being driven from their end but would be a good deal if it was actually on offer.
Yes,I think Hoilett is a younger version of Odemwingie,has good pace and aggressive.It would be a nice deal if we got him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slimboyfat1972 on January 31, 2013, 10:03:52 AM
I dont think he will go anywhere now..
Just got his apology in on his twitter..Now changed to if he leaves..

I apologise in advance. Even if I leave. I am loved at the ground and I love them too.Not everyone maybe. I accept as normal
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 31, 2013, 10:05:33 AM
I`d take Hoilett all day long as every time ive seen him he`s been looked quality,
this is desperate times for the Albion so I`d rather have him than nothing.
Can you imagine going into the 2nd half of the season without only 1 injury prone winger (Thomas),
it would be torture from start to finish.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 31, 2013, 10:16:49 AM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
Any PO - Hoilett swap deal not looking likely at this stage. From the looks of it this isn't being driven by #wba...more like agent/QPR

Really hope this isnt true, would love hoilet he is the type of player we badly need.

It will give us pace and energy. A new face and something fresh it would make me feel alot more confident for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 10:17:31 AM
So which one is it?

Or this?

 :-\

I am honestly not sure about Hoilett. He had a couple of promising years at Blackburn, and I said in the spring when BB were going down he was one of two players I'd look at from them (the other being Martin Olsson). However, I am afraid he'd turn out to be a type of player I am not too fond of, the 'get your head down and truck like crazy and hit the ball into the stands/some general direction' type, players with more speed than football sense.

But... we are simply so desperate for some speed for our attack and a couple of natural wingers - especially if PO leaves, and with JT and Gera injured/aging, we have to have something that looks alive out there. So, if we get Hoilett I'd hope my fears prove unfounded and we have a really good player on our hands.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 10:27:04 AM
I am honestly not sure about Hoilett. He had a couple of promising years at Blackburn, and I said in the spring when BB were going down he was one of two players I'd look at from them (the other being Martin Olsson). However, I am afraid he'd turn out to be a type of player I am not too fond of, the 'get your head down and truck like crazy and hit the ball into the stands/some general direction' type, players with more speed than football sense.

But... we are simply so desperate for some speed for our attack and a couple of natural wingers - especially if PO leaves, and with JT and Gera injured/aging, we have to have something that looks alive out there. So, if we get Hoilett I'd hope my fears prove unfounded and we have a really good player on our hands.

Good comeback  ;)

But inconsistancies let you down, last season you wanted him, 2 weeks ago he wasn't good enough but today you want him again, it doesn't help your credibility when you change your mind like a......erm........dare I say........zombie  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 10:38:10 AM
I said last week that QPR didn't seem that interested in him (low transfer price, the fact Arry didn't mention it half as much as he does, etc.) and it got dismissed.

He is going nowhere and I'm glad. Not because I want him to play for us again but because I was hopeful we wouldn't be held ransom by Arrys band of mercenaries.

Speaks volumes doesnt it that instead of pursuing perfectly good options in Jonas Olsson and Odemwingie, where a few million more would have prised them away (glad they didn't) QPR have bought Samba for £12.5m and 100k a week and £10m+ for Crouch. They really are mugs.

With regards to Odemwingies new change of attitud, he openly and intentionally burnt those bridges, he doesn't deserve this club. I will not support him regardless of what he does, he owes us 110% and some goals, I won't thank him if he gives them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 31, 2013, 10:40:46 AM
We should be driving this Hoillet deal forward not QPR and his agent.  Come on Albion FFS.  Pete will create a toxic atmosphere within the ground and the dressing room, if we have the opportunity to swap him for someone who possesses the same type of quality and skill set AND IS 10 YEARS YOUNGER then we should be doing everything we can to make it happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 10:58:33 AM
Good comeback  ;)

But inconsistancies let you down, last season you wanted him, 2 weeks ago he wasn't good enough but today you want him again, it doesn't help your credibility when you change your mind like a......erm........dare I say........zombie  ;)

Hum? Two weeks ago PO was still in our camp. Cause - reaction. Elementary, my dear Watson :)

And the real problem is of course that I haven't seen enough of Hoilett to make up my mind. I've seen flashes from him where he has looked impressive, but then again most players can boast that. I'm not familiar enough with his overall game to have a solid opinion OR to trust that he is good enough. So easy to let desperation and hopes run away with you when you have a gap in the squad and are on a poor run. Don't want to see any expensive Panicbuyies.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
Still posting drivel then, bringing Tchoyi and Roy into it.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

We had one until the doctor knew me better than him because only him could figure me out and told Roy its all in his head.

Peter Odemwingie Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Oh sorry Tchoyi haha contract is to be honoured but no parties have any guarantee. That's why there is a psychologist in the club. Was .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on January 31, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
I really don't understand what he is talking about half the time. His tone does seem to have shifted today, as it stands I think he knows his staying.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Slimbo on January 31, 2013, 11:13:13 AM
I really don't understand what he is talking about half the time. His tone does seem to have shifted today, as it stands I think he knows his staying.

I am with you, some of those tweets need translating unless I am being thick
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2013, 11:17:19 AM
Still posting drivel then, bringing Tchoyi and Roy into it.

Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

We had one until the doctor knew me better than him because only him could figure me out and told Roy its all in his head.

Peter Odemwingie Peter Odemwingie ?@OdemwingieP

Oh sorry Tchoyi haha contract is to be honoured but no parties have any guarantee. That's why there is a psychologist in the club. Was .


Does his misses understand him beacuse i certainly dont
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 31, 2013, 12:13:49 PM
£2m plus a young, pacey skillfull player who isn't a complete basket case would be a dream deal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BobTaylor on January 31, 2013, 12:22:14 PM
Basket case haha very true his tweets seem utter rubbish most the time, his style is very different to our other strikers though if he left i would want someone like Holliet coming in or a similiar type of player to replace him. Would love us to try and push through this deal now if a swap plus cash is on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bakeyaface on January 31, 2013, 01:00:59 PM
I have to agree with most of the comments on here regarding the Hoilett / Odmwingie scenario but i just wanted everyones opinion on my slant on the potential deal.

I agree we may be gaining such things as flair, pace and the ability to run at defenders with Hoilett - but this (to his credit) this is what PO can bring to the table so we may not be gaining or losing anything there. However PO does come up with goals and sometimes very big ones, Hoilett to me isnt a goalscorer like PO is.

The point i am making is i agree the deal may have positives would we still be sacrificing goals with this deal -  basically swapping a goalscoring forward come winger - for just a winger?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 01:07:37 PM
Why is everyone getting excited about a deal that won't happen? It's silly season but CL is close to the club and says it won't happen, can't see him going anywhere given the evidence.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DJ EmmJee on January 31, 2013, 01:22:04 PM
Have we sold him yet or what?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
Have we sold him yet or what?


Swap deal i hear with Gudjonson :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 31, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
The bookies - and they never lose! - offer a measly 1-4 on Odemwingie joining QPR. Source: Sky Bet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 31, 2013, 01:58:16 PM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
#QPR have returned for further talks over Odemwingie. Looks like they're trying one final time. Story to follow #wba

Hello QPR. Goodbye Peter. Hopefully Hello Junior.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
#QPR have returned for further talks over Odemwingie. Looks like they're trying one final time. Story to follow #wba

Hello QPR. Goodbye Peter. Hopefully Hello Junior.


I  thought as much with him saying the Crouch deal unlikely
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
Darren Lewis ?@MirrorDarren

WBA want £5million for Odemwingie. QPR will only go to £3.5m. Odemwingie has spoken to Tech Director Dan Ashworth. Desperate to leave.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 03:02:24 PM
3.5 and Holliet will do nicely
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 03:04:03 PM
Darren Lewis ?@MirrorDarren

WBA want £5million for Odemwingie. QPR will only go to £3.5m. Odemwingie has spoken to Tech Director Dan Ashworth. Desperate to leave.
Darren Lewis is on par with Tribal Rumours , Sky Sports and Talkshite!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on January 31, 2013, 03:10:54 PM
Darren Lewis ?@MirrorDarren

WBA want £5million for Odemwingie. QPR will only go to £3.5m. Odemwingie has spoken to Tech Director Dan Ashworth. Desperate to leave.

£5M it is then  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 03:11:31 PM
Darren Lewis is on par with Tribal Rumours , Sky Sports and Talkshite!

Don't shoot the messenger mate  :D

You'll be telling me Gudjonsen ain't coming next  :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on January 31, 2013, 04:12:56 PM
Darren Lewis ?@MirrorDarren

WBA want £5million for Odemwingie. QPR will only go to £3.5m. Odemwingie has spoken to Tech Director Dan Ashworth. Desperate to leave.
Can just see it now, the final insult to us fans:
Odemwingie joins QPR for an 'undisclosed fee'!

Rumour also Thomas is wanted by Appleton? If we dont sign players in January, we shouldnt sell in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: timdon on January 31, 2013, 04:27:19 PM
The final bid is likely to be about 3.5 million, maybe with a bit more if they stay up. They know, for right or wrong, that we cant really usefully keep him and that noone else has made a move for him, so I dont think they will be willing to pay much more. I know we have a history of getting over the odds from desperate clubs, but it isnt going to happen every time. Anyway, I think 3.5 million is more than reasonable for a 32 year old who is arguably past his best, and whose attitude is very questionable, to say the least. Personally, I hope he is gone, because otherwise we are left with an asset that isnt much use to us, whether we like it or not. It would be nice to get a winger in, especially with JT looking like he is leaving, but I dont think its the end of the world if we dont. We will survive this season I reckon, and then we need a major rebuild next season, but at least we will have some cash to achieve this if all goes to plan.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 31, 2013, 05:29:35 PM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski
Odemwingie to QPR ongoing. The hold-up is over the inclusion of Hoilett & how that particular part of the deal would be structured #wba

I guess this is confirmation that we are indeed interested in Hoilett
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2013, 05:50:19 PM
Seems to be hinting that the hold up is not so much about if he will be included, but rather how.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 31, 2013, 05:52:12 PM
Looks like Pete has gone barring contract hitches. Oh well thanks for the goals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: solidus on January 31, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
Can just see it now, the final insult to us fans:
Odemwingie joins QPR for an 'undisclosed fee'!

Rumour also Thomas is wanted by Appleton? If we dont sign players in January, we shouldnt sell in January.
Undisclosed fee?! More like on loan with a view to a permanent transfer!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
Could this be Ashworth's last big deal?... as good as Pete could be to get rid of a want away nearing 32 years old and exchange him for money plus a young , tricky  winger would be a great bit of business.
Qpr hasn't worked out for him but he was terrific in a poor Blackburn side.
I didn't want to lose Pete but if this goes ahead it's the best of a bad situation.
One point if Hoilett doesn't come do we pull the plug on Pete's move ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on January 31, 2013, 06:06:25 PM
Hmmmmmmm

Interesting times - just hope we get some quailty in now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on January 31, 2013, 06:24:40 PM
QPR just said hoillet going no where
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mig on January 31, 2013, 06:32:21 PM
Without Hoilett in the deal I'd now tell QPR to get lost unless they stump up £7 million.

Can't let JT & Odemwingie go without bringing in at least 1 replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 31, 2013, 06:39:47 PM
Without Hoilett in the deal I'd now tell QPR to get lost unless they stump up £7 million.

Can't let JT & Odemwingie go without bringing in at least 1 replacement.

Totally agree pay through the nose or include Hoillet  or no deal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 31, 2013, 06:47:15 PM
You guys are deluded. What leverage have we got at this point? We now possess an emotionally unstable player who has alienated his fan base, his club, and surely his peers on the squad. We can score a moral victory, but that's it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jjb0rdell0 on January 31, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
You guys are deluded. What leverage have we got at this point? We now possess an emotionally unstable player who has alienated his fan base, his club, and surely his peers on the squad. We can score a moral victory, but that's it.

its the precedent that moral victory will set though...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 07:00:27 PM
Without Hoilett in the deal I'd now tell QPR to get lost unless they stump up £7 million.

Can't let JT & Odemwingie go without bringing in at least 1 replacement.

QPR just paid 12.5 million and a £100k a week salary for Samba. They have Junior on ridiculous wages along with the rest of the squad (some championship leftovers maybe be exempt to this). They can stump up for PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommi on January 31, 2013, 07:05:57 PM


With Pete just been quoted to say he's disappointed with the club moving the goalposts on the deal (he's on way to London now) it's going to be even harder for him to stay. Can safely say he will go this evening. Crouch is defo staying also now, QPR will cough up cash for PO. Can't see JR coming
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 07:10:22 PM
QPR just paid 12.5 million and a £100k a week salary for Samba. They have Junior on ridiculous wages along with the rest of the squad (some championship leftovers maybe be exempt to this). They can stump up for PO.

Agreed I've been saying it all week compared to other transfers they've been very quiet about Odemwingie. If they really wanted him, they'd have got him by now. Any negative fallout as a result is the fault of the man himself. Probably think he'd be a nice cheap option to chip in now and then while the big signings do the work. Anyone saying 'get rid of him he's alienated himself he can't ever play again' what the hell do you think Odemwingie wanted people to think? Let him stay and face the music.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 07:13:24 PM


With Pete just been quoted to say he's disappointed with the club moving the goalposts on the deal (he's on way to London now) it's going to be even harder for him to stay. Can safely say he will go this evening. Crouch is defo staying also now, QPR will cough up cash for PO. Can't see JR coming

The club haven't moved any goalposts, he shouldn't have started driving until we agreed a price for him, which clearly hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 07:18:53 PM
Pictures of him arriving at Nelson Mandela House, could get awkward if it goes Tits Up  :P 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 31, 2013, 07:23:13 PM
There he is at the qpr ground, tosser

Wouldn't surprise me if he just decided to drive down there by himself to try a beg for the deal to go through.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KYA on January 31, 2013, 07:31:03 PM
The club haven't moved any goalposts, he shouldn't have started driving until we agreed a price for him, which clearly hasn't happened.

Agreed let him stew if he wants to play fine if he wants to sulk fine,then we get rid in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on January 31, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
Agreed let him stew if he wants to play fine if he wants to sulk fine,then we get rid in the summer.

He should never ever play for us again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 07:39:41 PM
he just been chatting to a sky reporter from his pimp vehicle seems pretty confident
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 31, 2013, 07:40:02 PM
Already talking on sky as if he is qpr player , we this we that. When asked about twitter he said "we'll I had to force a few things" I don't think I've ever hated one of our players until now

Part of me wants us not to sell him just to give him some stick and to see him sulk
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 31, 2013, 07:41:56 PM
As I said before Pete is gone. The club have told him to get down there so you can see that a deal will be done but just depends on how much.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 31, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
To see him sitting is his car being all cocky outside the QPR ground has really annoyed me. Talking up how good QPR are already and how they will stay up. The only thing he said was holding it up was West Brom.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Slimbo on January 31, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
Peter Odemwingie talks to Sky Sports News ahead of his potential move to QPR from West Brom - "West Brom is my home but it's a new chapter to start in my life. I'm very optimistic, a few good players have already arrived here. I just hope things will go well in the last few hours."
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
Just interviewed outside qpr, referring to 'them' as 'us' & a big challenge ahead, like he had already signed, by£ by£ P£T£  >:(   

#he'sgone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 31, 2013, 07:44:33 PM
I wish we still had to play qpr this season. I'd get tamas to man mark him :-)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 07:47:05 PM
High fives with QPR fans.Good job we aint got to play them again >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 31, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
The fact he has even driven down! Not even like anyone else drove him. I suppose his agent thinks Peter can afford the petrol now!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 07:49:32 PM
Just interviewed outside qpr, referring to 'them' as 'us' & a big challenge ahead, like he had already signed, by£ by£ P£T£  >:(   

#he'sgone

Yup. I'm lighting up a joss stick to pray JP doesn't let us down now. Take them to the cleaners JP!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 31, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
https://twitter.com/chrislepkowski/status/297065320093454336

This is just starting to seem ... weird. There is something really kind of sickening about the whole affair. Waiting for inevitable "checking into the Priory" announcement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: saml30 on January 31, 2013, 07:59:28 PM
£3.5M is a joke, as far as I am concerned QPR have won, so much for us making a stand against 'Arry and his bandits
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbalee44 on January 31, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
west brom club statement
CLUB STATEMENT: Albion have moved to clarify developments regarding Peter Odemwingie after the striker was filmed a short while ago arriving at Loftus Road.
The club can confirm they have held further discussions with QPR today but those talks have so far proven fruitless and no agreement has been reached.
Albion would also like to make clear that Peter has not been given permission to speak to QPR about a potential move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
We are firing a salvo back! ;D

Albion move to clarify developments regarding Peter Odemwingie after striker was filmed a short while ago arriving at Loftus Road #wba

Club have held further discussions with QPR today but those talks have so far proven fruitless and no agreement has been reached #wba

Albion would also like to make clear that Peter has not been given permission to speak to QPR about a potential move #wba
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 31, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
We are firing a salvo back! ;D

Albion move to clarify developments regarding Peter Odemwingie after striker was filmed a short while ago arriving at Loftus Road #wba

Club have held further discussions with QPR today but those talks have so far proven fruitless and no agreement has been reached #wba

Albion would also like to make clear that Peter has not been given permission to speak to QPR about a potential move #wba

The bloke is a nob ofthe highest order
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on January 31, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
west brom club statement
CLUB STATEMENT: Albion have moved to clarify developments regarding Peter Odemwingie after the striker was filmed a short while ago arriving at Loftus Road.
The club can confirm they have held further discussions with QPR today but those talks have so far proven fruitless and no agreement has been reached.
Albion would also like to make clear that Peter has not been given permission to speak to QPR about a potential move.

Just goes to show what a complete and utter tosser this guy is!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
Just go Pete FFS, the Twitter rant was bad enough but to drive down there without any permission to talk is an absolute disgrace and shows how much he wants to go to that twitchy pillock. So no talks have gone on with player but he knows what he is being offered and is practically banging the door down to get tin to sign.

Albion Legend my backside
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 08:09:23 PM
Headsgone idiot 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 31, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
I'm sure if JP wanted to he could legally nail his ass to the wall.
Makes you think that JP wants shut as well
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 31, 2013, 08:11:57 PM
I have time to kill tonight so here is the full Odemwingie Sky interview from his car window (good ol’ Harry)

Interviewer – Peter, do you feel disappointed by how you’ve been treated by West Brom?

Peter – No, no fine. West brom is my home but this is a new chapter to start in my life you know. I love West Brom and always will but…

Interviewer – How excited are you by this challenge?

Peter – I am interested to see whether we will make it or not. I am very optimistic about it. A few good players already arrived here. I am happy with the trust that the manager Harry Redknapp has given me, you know, its interesting.

Interviewer – Do you think QPR can stay up now?

Peter – Yes of course. The last few results have showed that there is a chance to stay up. I don’t think the owners will [would] bring so many quality players and spend so much money if they didn’t believe it would happen so I believe as well as they believe

Interviewer – Will you definitely be a QPR player?

Peter – Well its definitely not a 100%. Its not sorted yet but I hope West Brom will be happy with what they will get and of course they are hoping to get a few players themselves so I just hope things will go well in the last few hours

Interviewer – And you finally got your wish after speaking on Twitter over the weekend?

Peter – Ah but well…you know you have to push a little bit …

   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieboy74 on January 31, 2013, 08:16:55 PM
So funny if it falls through. What a little t--t he is.  If there's any justice he will have a awful time down there......take a look at Becks you money grabbing div.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 31, 2013, 08:17:41 PM
What an absolute ****

On a side note, this forum is bordering on unusable =/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
Apparently WBA are firing up their lawyers over PO's mutiny.

Put's even more pressure on QPR to stump up because we won't let this nob go on the cheap now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 08:32:20 PM
I have time to kill tonight so here is the full Odemwingie Sky interview from his car window (good ol’ Harry)

Interviewer – Peter, do you feel disappointed by how you’ve been treated by West Brom?

Peter – No, no fine. West brom is my home but this is a new chapter to start in my life you know. I love West Brom and always will but…

Interviewer – How excited are you by this challenge?

Peter – I am interested to see whether we will make it or not. I am very optimistic about it. A few good players already arrived here. I am happy with the trust that the manager Harry Redknapp has given me, you know, its interesting.

Interviewer – Do you think QPR can stay up now?

Peter – Yes of course. The last few results have showed that there is a chance to stay up. I don’t think the owners will [would] bring so many quality players and spend so much money if they didn’t believe it would happen so I believe as well as they believe

Interviewer – Will you definitely be a QPR player?

Peter – Well its definitely not a 100%. Its not sorted yet but I hope West Brom will be happy with what they will get and of course they are hoping to get a few players themselves so I just hope things will go well in the last few hours

Interviewer – And you finally got your wish after speaking on Twitter over the weekend?

Peter – Ah but well…you know you have to push a little bit …

 

That sounds like an interview with a player a day AFTER he's signed for a new club, now I could be wrong but West Brom haven't agreed a fee yet, so how is it that Odemwonga is going on like all i's have been dotted & t's crossed.

Its begining to smell a lot like Redknapp, JP, when you've finished relieving these s4!tbags of a few million lets get a call into the FA. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 31, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
Surely QPR and Odemwingie should face retrospective action for their actions?

Odemwingie is a complete and utter ****
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Booker on January 31, 2013, 08:46:35 PM
 

 
Barclays PL News
?@BarclaysLeague
Odemwingie's rumoured #QPR transfer could possibly relegate #QPR due to point deduction for illegal player tapping; no permission form #WBA
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: darby009 on January 31, 2013, 08:54:48 PM
that would be fantastic news and really make me laugh
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2013, 09:00:30 PM
Just heard the deal hinges on us getting a replacement. Apparently Odemwonga not has cheerful as an hour ago
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on January 31, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
 

 
Barclays PL News
?@BarclaysLeague
Odemwingie's rumoured #QPR transfer could possibly relegate #QPR due to point deduction for illegal player tapping; no permission form #WBA

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Brilliant! (it'll never happen of course)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 09:11:52 PM
https://twitter.com/EbeneezerPeace/status/297089269988732929


JP's left it in his court...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
QPR have told him to go away :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 09:18:23 PM
What a farce this is!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 31, 2013, 09:21:20 PM
QPR never let him in the building "We would never show WBA the disrespect of talking to one of their players without permission". HAHAHAHAHA. This is hilarious.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
https://twitter.com/EbeneezerPeace/status/297089269988732929


JP's left it in his court...

Checkmate!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 31, 2013, 09:38:19 PM
What the hell is his agent advising him lol!!!
His team mates must be having a right laugh at him.
I advise Odemwingie to get yourself back home to your wife and kid,
take yourself of twitter and fb, and then 1st thing friday morning take yourself off the transfer list.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: donnybaggieboy on January 31, 2013, 09:41:15 PM
this is bizarre!!how can he ever put on an albion shirt again and what sort of reception is he going to get from the players when he turns up for training tomorrow(if they let him on the training ground!)also  the fans will /have turned him into a hate figure ,what an absolute cock
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionpete92 on January 31, 2013, 09:45:07 PM
Think if he ever gets near wearing an Albion shirt again he should be met with a chorus of laughter rather than boos... What.A.Joke!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 31, 2013, 09:49:58 PM
I wonder if those so vociferously defending him the past few days have changed their views now? And what club will want to go near this obviously unstable individual after this? He needs help.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 09:59:25 PM
For the Tottenham game we need a lovely big bed sheet with 'W£LCOM£ BACK P£T£!' on it.

Anyone who defended him simply can't now. The man has a wife and kid at home and he's decided to bugger off on a jolly and talk about his new club. Said it last week, they don't want him enough and he's a raging lunatic.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 31, 2013, 10:01:07 PM
I wonder if those so vociferously defending him the past few days have changed their views now? And what club will want to go near this obviously unstable individual after this? He needs help.

I was just thinking exactly the same thing, I honestly hope I'm wrong but I do feel this could tip Odemwingie over edge, he has shown himself as a very fragile individual & regardless of whats gone on I wouldn't want him to start crawling up curtains, on reflection maybe the club should be the 'bigger man' here & help someone who is effectively still our player to deal with all the fallout & get him some counciling, I really think he needs it  :(

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 31, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
On the contrary I'd be delighted if he were to stay.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 31, 2013, 10:10:52 PM
Sky still reporting dialogue between the two clubs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 31, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
   MirrorFootball (@MirrorFootball)
31/01/2013 22:08
"Oh Peter, wooooah / Oh Peter, wooooah / You drove to QPR / They left you in your car" #songsforOdemwingie
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on January 31, 2013, 10:19:21 PM
On the contrary I'd be delighted if he were to stay.

Seriously how could he ever show his face at our club again? He is a complete outcast now, hope we dont have to lose £40 a week for him to train with the kids, we should make a transfer profit now otherwise it's just a waste of money for us until we sell him for next to nothing in the summer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 31, 2013, 10:20:28 PM
On the contrary I'd be delighted if he were to stay.

I can only presume so you can watch him rot in the reserves? Because there's no way he'll be playing for us again. And rightly so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on January 31, 2013, 10:21:47 PM
I hope the farcical situation surrounding Odemwhinger hasn't diverted JP away from any potential signings.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 31, 2013, 10:25:15 PM
If he does stay he needs to play at least once at home just so we can tell him what we think of him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 31, 2013, 10:28:38 PM
If he does stay he needs to play at least once at home just so we can tell him what we think of him

Was just thinking that. Or just have him has an unused sub, the boos when his name is read out will be deafening.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
Breaking News: Peter Odemwingie seen in QPR club shop with crate of Guinness buying full kit.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zac on January 31, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
"Odemwingie woooahhh, Odemwingie woooahhh, he drove to QPR, they left him in his car"

The whole situation has left me baffled, bet its making good viewing for people watching sky sports news though!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2013, 10:52:06 PM
Harry just confirmed its not happening
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 31, 2013, 10:54:34 PM
Dear o dear :-) let tamas on him in training i say
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 10:57:15 PM
JP never gets pushed over does he ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on January 31, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
Looking forward to his next set of tweets...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 11:04:22 PM
JP never gets pushed over does he ?

Aye, can't believe PO thought behaving like a 5 yo wanting goodies would make the slightest difference to JP. But the real villain in this little drama is Harry washing his hands from the whole deal 'it wasn't our doing' my butt. 

Wonder what PO thinks of Harry now?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on January 31, 2013, 11:09:09 PM
What a plank
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on January 31, 2013, 11:10:33 PM
Why do sky keep saying Odemwingie thought a bid had been accepted when he clearly says in his interview " it's not been sorted yet but I hope west brom like what there offering"

What the hell was he thinking????
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 31, 2013, 11:12:13 PM
Wander if Pete will claim petrol allowance for the journey to Loftus? Hope he replies to my tweet.

How loud will the boos be on Sunday? Hopefully LOUD.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 11:17:27 PM
Aye, can't believe PO thought behaving like a 5 yo wanting goodies would make the slightest difference to JP. But the real villain in this little drama is Harry washing his hands from the whole deal 'it wasn't our doing' my butt.

As much of a bell that Arry is, he's not the real Villain. At the end of the day I doubt he asked Odemwingie to go mental, even if he did illegally approach him. Odemwingie is the biggest idiot here and his actions tonight are deplorable. If he hates it so much here let's put him out his misery and get the bolt gun.

Jonas, Gabriel and Goran will give him a free lobotomy in training tomorrow.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
I just don't know what happens now , i could just about forgive the twitter stuff but to turn up at QPR and talk on camera and refer to QPR as "us".......im critical of Clarke at times but i feel for him tonight.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on January 31, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
Proud of the club to be honest!

We have shown nobody bullies us, QPR and the scumbag have tried every trick in the book, from leaking their interest, discussing terms (he knew what he was getting so somebody spoke to him) his transfer request (every right too) but then his statement, his twitter, his actions today and yet Peter you fail to realise, you are dealing with JP, do the deal on his terms or no deal at all!

I think we have made a stance today, QPR have tried to flex their financial power, JP has basically gave them the middle finger, Redknapp had the nerve to say 'he felt sorry for the boy' that it didnt go through, how the hell can anybody have sympathy with the scumbag???!! He chose to go this route and tried to create a situation where he couldnt stay, tough Pete, time to face the music.

I think he is a poisonous individual and so want him nowhere near any of squads, first team, reserves or academy, they dont deserve to suffer the epitomy of the modern day football bully. I hope the club make him train alone at very inconvenient hours, maybe get him in 2 or 3 times a day, when nobody else is there and i hope they ruin him.

I dont buy all this mentally unstable stuff, he has done it at every club he has been at, including his national team and openly admitted this is about the 4th time he has wanted out when a bigger offer came, he isnt unstable he is a brat. If it comes out that he has mental health problems i would gladly apologise for those comments, but there is very little chance of that and the bloke is a complete tool.

Its been well reported the players havent been happy with his actions the last few days so i hope they kick the rubbish out of him tomorrow, somebody get on the phone to Gary Strodder, he would sort the runt out. (apologies to runts there, you are better than Odemwingie)

Would love QPR to go down, hate the way our club has been dragged into Redknapps media circus, fans i feel sorry for when they are left with his financial mess like Bournemouth, Southampton and Portsmouth were.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 11:25:12 PM
As much of a bell that Arry is, he's not the real Villain. At the end of the day I doubt he asked Odemwingie to go mental, even if he did illegally approach him. Odemwingie is the biggest idiot here and his actions tonight are deplorable. If he hates it so much here let's put him out his misery and get the bolt gun.

Jonas, Gabriel and Goran will give him a free lobotomy in training tomorrow.

Aye, I'm sure our players won't forget Pete talking about the R's as 'Us'...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on January 31, 2013, 11:25:50 PM
Peter should you feel a bit peckish on the way home might i suggest the steak & kidney pie and chips at Newport Pagnell services. Not too bad for motorway fodder but a bit pricey. I feel a bit for the bloke unlike just about everyone. I dont think this is just about money. He already has plenty unless he is hiding an addiction or something. Clearly he is a troubled individual. Not defending his handling of this sorry affair but I cant help thinking there is some human story in the background here. Then again i suppose he could just be a total mercenary........a very unsavoury affair
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on January 31, 2013, 11:28:29 PM
The blokes got no chance now.  No doubt Garlick is consulting lawyers looking at ways to hammer Pete.

I will be disgusted with the club if he ever pulls on the shirt again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on January 31, 2013, 11:29:55 PM
Hey, I just drove here,
And this is crazy,
I'm in your car-park,
So sign me maybe?

Twitter is fantastic I've decided.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 11:30:35 PM
The blokes got no chance now.  No doubt Garlick is consulting lawyers looking at ways to hammer Pete.

I will be disgusted with the club if he ever pulls on the shirt again.
Was Garlick not a sports lawyer himself?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on January 31, 2013, 11:31:20 PM
Peter should you feel a bit peckish on the way home might i suggest the steak & kidney pie and chips at Newport Pagnell services. Not too bad for motorway fodder but a bit pricey. I feel a bit for the bloke unlike just about everyone. I dont think this is just about money. He already has plenty unless he is hiding an addiction or something. Clearly he is a troubled individual. Not defending his handling of this sorry affair but I cant help thinking there is some human story in the background here. Then again i suppose he could just be a total mercenary........a very unsavoury affair
That is a understatement
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 31, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
Peter should you feel a bit peckish on the way home might i suggest the steak & kidney pie and chips at Newport Pagnell services. Not too bad for motorway fodder but a bit pricey. I feel a bit for the bloke unlike just about everyone. I dont think this is just about money. He already has plenty unless he is hiding an addiction or something. Clearly he is a troubled individual. Not defending his handling of this sorry affair but I cant help thinking there is some human story in the background here. Then again i suppose he could just be a total mercenary........a very unsavoury affair

If it was a one off out of character then you could have some sympathy but given he's had issues elsewhere throughout his career then he gets none from me to be honest.

Bad advice, stinks of tapping up but ultimately comes down to the player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on January 31, 2013, 11:34:40 PM
I think JP has done the club proud. This has shown that West Brom  will  not be pushed into a deal that wasn't good for the club. If he had of caved in to QPR then the message would have gone out that any WBA player is up for grabs. Ok we might have had £3m in the bank, but we want our capital on the pitch. At least with PO still at the club, there's always the chance that he can make a come back. Once he's gone without a replacement, then it is a squad minus one.

I also think despite Harry's Mr Honesty image, there's something very dodgy about QPR's role in the whole saga. I can't believe this was just all down to PO.  QPR were still giving the strong come on when they had been denied permission to speak to PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on January 31, 2013, 11:38:07 PM
The biggest thing for me tonight is JP making it clear WBA FC do not do any transfers unless we are 100% happy with them , we will not be rolled over.Long term this will benefit us no end.
As for Pete I've no doubt the club will give him a break and some "help" now. ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
I also laugh at his agent who is probably the route cause and well out of pocket :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Critical Baggie on January 31, 2013, 11:41:44 PM
Dear oh dear Peter. At least we can look back and say we did things the right way. Peace was never going to roll over and good on him for that.

Something does tell me things were going on in the background that we might of not heard the last of. We know Pete can't keep his mouth shut and it wouldn't surprise me if he came out and says QPR did talk to him at somepoint.

Just looking at Redknapp in his 'post deadline day' interview he didn't look happy. Was he unhappy with Fernandes not paying the money or about what might of gone on that could get QPR into trouble with the authorities.

Apparently the club are seeking legal advice.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sconesy on January 31, 2013, 11:42:10 PM
I'm also proud of our club for standing firm. At the end of the day, if ANY of us believed that we could earn substantially more at another club, we would ALL want to explore every avenue to ensure our future's as secure as possible. However, PO has completely and utterly shown himself up. He as shown a complete disregard for the club and fans, an amateurish petulance that has exposed him to be lacking in most if not all of the dignifying qualities that are needed for compromise, negotiation and understanding. PO and his amature 'two bob bit' entourage have completely embarrassed themselves. 'Flies round pooh' springs to mind.......Surely any agent possesing even the very lowest of qualities, would not allow his client to drive down to QPR, only to stand outside like a spare prick at a party!! We'll still get 3 mil plus in the summer.......lets enjoy watching him remove his head from his backside.

Well done WBA!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 11:42:53 PM
The blokes got no chance now.  No doubt Garlick is consulting lawyers looking at ways to hammer Pete.

I will be disgusted with the club if he ever pulls on the shirt again.

Yeah, we can't just pay PO millions after this little stunt can we? I feel a little sorry for him but he brought this on himself. I wish he could mend the bridges and get back on the pitch scoring goals for us, but how can that ever happen, the club will never in a million years trust him again never mind the fans opinion. The twitter rant was one thing but today, entering a fairy world where he already was a QPR player? Bizarre.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on January 31, 2013, 11:43:58 PM
Hard to see a way he can play for us again now. I think a loan deal to a team like Middlesbrough might be an idea at this stage as it would at least free up wages. I feel sorry for the club in the Odemwingie case as it was not a very easy situation to navigate when he is being this childish and unprofessional.

It's just a shame we did not do something to replace him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on January 31, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
Not sure where this leaves any of us. Pete has really messed this up and not sure this situation can be resurrected! Think Pete may have to look abroad and tout himself around now with transfer windows in Russia, Ukraine etc still open.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Greenock Baggie on January 31, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
What an absolute farce. The bloke pisses off to London without permission from WBA, turns up at Loftus Road giving it the biggun with thier fans outside the ground without actually being told he was being sold by WBA only for QPR to turn round and say eeerrrrrr Sorry Pete, we aint signing you, you need to p*** off quick or we'll be in the s**** !!!

What an utter tool.

Shame he didnt end up going there as QPR and this utter tool obviously belong together. Both utterly deluded in their own estimation of their position in football.................ie, NOWHERE !!

SEND THIS BLOKE TO COVENTRY ( METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING AS I'm not even sure they'd want him ) as I dont ever want to see his face anywhere near the Hawthorns EVER AGAIN.

KNO***EAD
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on January 31, 2013, 11:47:01 PM
I agree with the above sentiments. We've sent out a message tonight that we will not give in to bully-boy tactics by clubs with mega-bucks. Yes, we may have to pay Pete's wages until the summer (when hopefully we can get a decent fee for him) but in the long run, over a number of years it will mean that if clubs want to sign any of our players they will be more likely to go about it in the correct manner with acceptable bids instead of tapping up and expecting us to give in. As for the wages we'll be paying him until the summer, just imagine he picked up an injury in training tomorrow which puts him out for several months. We'd just think it's unlucky and not really think about the wages. Importantly, it will discourage any of our other players from trying similar tactics to engineer a move out of the club. Opinion will be divided somewhat, but I believe Peace has done the right thing here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 11:47:52 PM
Not sure where this leaves any of us. Pete has really messed this up and not sure this situation can be resurrected! Think Pete may have to look abroad and tout himself around now with transfer windows in Russia, Ukraine etc still open.

But the club will probably sue Pete for losses incurred by his actions etc/or something legalese... The club made it clear it never wanted to sell him from the start.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on January 31, 2013, 11:50:05 PM
Dear oh dear Peter. At least we can look back and say we did things the right way. Peace was never going to roll over and good on him for that.

Something does tell me things were going on in the background that we might of not heard the last of. We know Pete can't keep his mouth shut and it wouldn't surprise me if he came out and says QPR did talk to him at somepoint.

Just looking at Redknapp in his 'post deadline day' interview he didn't look happy. Was he unhappy with Fernandes not paying the money or about what might of gone on that could get QPR into trouble with the authorities.

Apparently the club are seeking legal advice.

Yeah, if the club puts the pressure on Pete he will squeal like a pig to get out of it. Who knows what might come out of that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on January 31, 2013, 11:50:41 PM
Lets just hope the club fine him every time he steps even slightly out of place.

With what Brunt said this morning, and that was public, imagine how bad it's going to be in the dressing room!!! hahahaha

"Whos going to drive you home" haha  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 31, 2013, 11:53:18 PM
There is no way he can play for us again and in-fact I'll be pretty disgusted if he does to be honest. His actions tonight were indefensible and has summed up his attitude within the last few days. He has been given time off recently to look after his wife and son, yet on his own accord he decides to drive off to London and try and force through a transfer. That's bad enough.

And as for those which want him to stay, then why? What about the effect it shall have on the atmosphere on matchdays and most importantly his team mates? The sooner we can get rid of him the better. He has proved he is a poisonous character and therefore he should be nowhere near the squad.

I'm happy with the way we've dealt with the situation as it has proved that we shall not be bullied by clubs with bigger resources and their antics and ultimately that player power shall count for very little. The downside to the situation is that we have a player on our books that doesn't want to be here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbastrollers on January 31, 2013, 11:55:32 PM
The blokes got no chance now.  No doubt Garlick is consulting lawyers looking at ways to hammer Pete.

I will be disgusted with the club if he ever pulls on the shirt again.

Not much chance of that Kris, I guess he  burnt the last bridge when he gave the Sky interview on the doorsteps of Loftus Road. He has chosen a treacherous road, now he has to walk it!! JP is within his right to issue a lawsuite for breach of contract or send him on a nice little loan deal to Siberia.
He has gone too far to offer a grovelling apology - You purport Christianity Pete,however you are a very poor witness.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 31, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
PETER ODEMWINGIE. To get home tonight it's M25, M1, M6, over the burnt bridge, then perform a humiliating U turn.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on January 31, 2013, 11:58:22 PM
Still waiting for the "checking into the Priory" moment. Tomorrow? Next week?

Could solve a lot of problems and allow Pete to rehab his rep. And honestly, it may actually help him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on February 01, 2013, 12:06:16 AM
 :D Sorry Pete...but you have been involved with the biggest crook in football...who has tapped you up, promised you a move...and you have "dumped" on the people who pay your wages and the Fans who cared about you...and are forgiving!!

You have no future here......hope you can find a game with Hartlepool or Grimbsy (no disrespect to these clubs)....thanks for the memories, which will soon be forgotten.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 12:06:42 AM
Oh well im off to bed, goodnight all and sleep well Pete
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on February 01, 2013, 12:11:35 AM
I'm gutted this didn't get done. I have been a fan of pete but I'm not a fan of any player who does not want to be here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 12:12:59 AM
:D Sorry Pete...but you have been involved with the biggest crook in football...who has tapped you up, promised you a move...and you have "dumped" on the people who pay your wages and the Fans who cared about you...and are forgiving!!

You have no future here......hope you can find a game with Hartlepool or Grimbsy (no disrespect to these clubs)....thanks for the memories, which will soon be forgotten.

I feel sorry for him tbh. He had a nice career playing football and was extremely well paid, new family and everything was in place and he could have lived happily ever after... Then he goes and makes an utter tool of himself out of pure greed and hubris. On top of that, as you say, he had the amazingly poor judgement to trust Dodgy Harry the used car salesman...

The old Greeks were correct. Hubris is the worst sin. "I get what I want".

Hubris (pron.: /?hju?br?s/), also hybris, from ancient Greek, means extreme pride or arrogance. Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 01, 2013, 12:22:52 AM
Some people are obviously proud of the club but, to my mind., there's nothing good about this parasite still being at Albion after everything that's happened. We'll just have to wait and see what the impact of his toxicity is, but there's no way that he should play for us again and any apologies will hopefully be regarded by everyone for what they are - lies.

There's nothing to rejoice about here - we won't get anything like as much as they were offering in the summer, if indeed anyone else wants to sign him at all after this, and we'll have to continue to pay him for nothing in the meantime.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on February 01, 2013, 12:27:34 AM
 :P :D peace will have a field day with qpr and greedywingie, rangers will be done for tapping up one of our players nice fine and points deduction. Winger will be doct a couple of months wages, tweet that you twonk. If we have the points we should play weakened teams against teams around them nobs and see them relegated will tweet twitcher that
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 12:30:45 AM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/no-deadline-day-move-for-peter-632183.aspx


ALBION can confirm that no agreement was reached with QPR over the transfer of Peter Odemwingie before the closure of the January window and that the striker remains under contract at The Hawthorns.

The Club were extremely disappointed to witness TV footage of Odemwingie arriving at Loftus Road on Thursday evening despite further talks between the two Barclays Premier League sides proving fruitless. Odemwingie was also never given permission to speak to QPR about a potential move.

Chairman Jeremy Peace said: “This evening’s developments have brought a conclusion to what has been an unsavoury affair.

“As our Sporting & Technical Director (designate) Richard Garlick has repeatedly said in recent days, we had no need or desire to sell our core players.

“The only way we would have considered letting Peter leave was if an acceptable offer was forthcoming and if we had found a suitable replacement at relatively short notice.

“Neither materialised and, in the end, the matter became a point of principle as much as anything.

“Peter has acted wholly unprofessionally. He must now accept the fact he remains under contract for a further 18 months and has to focus on his Albion commitments.”

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2013, 12:34:15 AM
Interesting to note Peace mention it had "became a point of principle". Shows we wanted to make a strong stance against the players actions and a message to other clubs that we will not fold.

The only real positive we can take from today, and in fact this entire window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albiondean on February 01, 2013, 12:34:29 AM
The first 10 mins is about Odemwingie.


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Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on February 01, 2013, 12:35:50 AM
I can't see how he can play for another club in Britain.  He's a laughing stock in this country.

Best option for him is a loan move to one of the countries where the transfer window is still open.

QPR and PO's agent need to have the book thrown at them for their illegal actions.  Somebody has to take a stand.  A 10-point deduction or QPR will relegate them which in turn will bankrupt them.  Shame...,

Well done JP and RG for standing firm on this.  I don't even care if we lose money as a result (sue QPR and PO if we do).

I hope the rest of the squad refuse to play or train with him.

He's toast.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 12:36:18 AM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/no-deadline-day-move-for-peter-632183.aspx


ALBION can confirm that no agreement was reached with QPR over the transfer of Peter Odemwingie before the closure of the January window and that the striker remains under contract at The Hawthorns.

The Club were extremely disappointed to witness TV footage of Odemwingie arriving at Loftus Road on Thursday evening despite further talks between the two Barclays Premier League sides proving fruitless. Odemwingie was also never given permission to speak to QPR about a potential move.

Chairman Jeremy Peace said: “This evening’s developments have brought a conclusion to what has been an unsavoury affair.

“As our Sporting & Technical Director (designate) Richard Garlick has repeatedly said in recent days, we had no need or desire to sell our core players.

“The only way we would have considered letting Peter leave was if an acceptable offer was forthcoming and if we had found a suitable replacement at relatively short notice.

“Neither materialised and, in the end, the matter became a point of principle as much as anything.

“Peter has acted wholly unprofessionally. He must now accept the fact he remains under contract for a further 18 months and has to focus on his Albion commitments.”


Mr. Odemwingie. Meet Cold Sober Reality.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 12:39:14 AM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski

#wba Board met for a meeting tonight post-deadline to discuss situation. Clearly very troubled by recent events and PO's overall conduct.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jim68 on February 01, 2013, 12:40:26 AM
after all thats gone on the first wants to be a suspension period /hope he never pulls on the shirt again get rid in the summer if you step out of line in any other employment thats what happens and disaplinery measuresare taken and well done jezza for standing firm absolute plank odemwingie :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 12:42:36 AM
Interesting to note Peace mention it had "became a point of principle". Shows we wanted to make a strong stance against the players actions and a message to other clubs that we will not fold.

The only real positive we can take from today, and in fact this entire window.

Indeed. I would have been shocked if JP had folded, he never ever does. The only way I saw PO leave was if we got very high compensation, but JP went a step further and also demanded a quality player in return.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 12:51:14 AM
CL reporting post window board meeting tonight after Odemwingies 'troubling actions'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 01, 2013, 12:59:07 AM
I'm gutted this didn't get done. I have been a fan of pete but I'm not a fan of any player who does not want to be here.

So I take it your not a fan of Olsson or Dorrans then ?
At this moment in time Albion need some wins so the only way we`re going to achieve
this is with our better players like Odemwingie and Mulumbu.
Here`s what PO should do next:
1. Go to the chairmans office and take himself off the transfer list.
2. Opologise to team mates and fans in a press conference.
3. Tell people he was trying to secure a better pay deal for his wife and new born son.
4. Explain he`s been frustrated of playing on the wing and only scoring 5 goals, also doesnt feel
loved anymore.
5.Wants to start against Spurs and score a hatrick to show how sorry he is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 01:03:04 AM
So I take it your not a fan of Olsson or Dorrans then ?
At this moment in time Albion need some wins so the only way we`re going to achieve
this is with our better players like Odemwingie and Mulumbu.
Here`s what PO should do next:
1. Go to the chairmans office and take himself off the transfer list.
2. Opologise to team mates and fans in a press conference.
3. Tell people he was trying to secure a better pay deal for his wife and new born son.
4. Explain he`s been frustrated of playing on the wing and only scoring 5 goals, also doesnt feel
loved anymore.
5.Wants to start against Spurs and score a hatrick to show how sorry he is.

Dorrans or Olsson didn't have a rant on Twitter or drive themselves to another clubs ground to try and get signed up.

1- He's not on the transfer list as his request was rejected
2- Least he can do
3- Should have been honest from the start
4- Happy to play on the wing for most of his career, doesn't feel loved ? how old is he ?
5- Would be a start but the damage will not be resolved in one game or one month if ever
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 01, 2013, 01:15:02 AM
Dorrans or Olsson didn't have a rant on Twitter or drive themselves to another clubs ground to try and get signed up.

1- He's not on the transfer list as his request was rejected
2- Least he can do
3- Should have been honest from the start
4- Happy to play on the wing for most of his career, doesn't feel loved ? how old is he ?
5- Would be a start but the damage will not be resolved in one game or one month if ever


If Man City fans can forgive Tevez then I cant see why Albion fans cant forgive Odemwingie.
Same as Man Utd fans forgiving Rooney for wanting to leave.
Its all about agents wanting a quick buck then the player going a long with the idea.
Odemwingie is the sort of guy who needs an arm round him and not all this abuse.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dan7heman on February 01, 2013, 01:15:27 AM
1. Dont go the chairmans office or set foot near the Hawthornes again.
2. Don't apologize for your very clear actions... We know how you feel.
3. Throw the support you had off the Albion fans back in their face
4. Dont play up front or on the wing for reserves or youth team
5. Well done JP. Your actions have done more for this club and sends a very clear warning to the vultures that will circle come the end of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 01, 2013, 01:24:16 AM

If Man City fans can forgive Tevez then I cant see why Albion fans cant forgive Odemwingie.
Same as Man Utd fans forgiving Rooney for wanting to leave.
Its all about agents wanting a quick buck then the player going a long with the idea.
Odemwingie is the sort of guy who needs an arm round him and not all this abuse.
Slight difference though

Tevez did it once
Rooney did it once
Odemwingie has been linked away like this nearly every window and THEN acts like this.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fool me 4 times?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 01, 2013, 01:26:25 AM
I guarantee these fans would want him in the team if we lost our next 5 lol!!!
Some people need to get a life.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 01:28:34 AM

If Man City fans can forgive Tevez then I cant see why Albion fans cant forgive Odemwingie.
Same as Man Utd fans forgiving Rooney for wanting to leave.
Its all about agents wanting a quick buck then the player going a long with the idea.
Odemwingie is the sort of guy who needs an arm round him and not all this abuse.

Tevez had a quarrel with his coach and was unhappy in his personal life. He never wanted out for greed or pride or for seeking personal glory elsewhere. He never insulted his club, it's fans or teammates. PO is in a league of his own and the abuse he is getting is all his own doing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 01:32:16 AM
I guarantee these fans would want him in the team if we lost our next 5 lol!!!
Some people need to get a life.

I wouldn't. After today I'm pretty fed up with the greed league. The ends do not justify the means and to me PO has crossed the limit by his actions today. I'm a pretty forgiving guy but I would simply not enjoy seeing him in the team again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Semaj Riatsila on February 01, 2013, 01:37:35 AM
Despite his actions which are dispicable, I'm still happy we have him as he is a great player.

I would of been happy if we got some money and Hoillet for Pete.  But as that is now history I'd like to see him come out and be humble, then show us that he has balls and plays his socks off for the remainder of the season.

No good crying over spilt milk! 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on February 01, 2013, 01:41:53 AM
I never thought our little club would ever be the top news story of the January transfer window. Not sure whether to laugh or cry. :-\




Ahh sod it.....you´ve gotta laugh. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 01:44:44 AM
Yeah it's been quite a farce hasn't it...  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on February 01, 2013, 02:00:23 AM
I guarantee these fans would want him in the team if we lost our next 5 lol!!!
Some people need to get a life.
Hogwash. The beautiful game is about a lot more than winning by any means. If all I was concerned about was winning, I would be supporting Manche$ter City or any number of other instant-club-just-add-money outfits.

I have a new respect for JP through this sordid affair. He clearly understands that Albion is nothing if we don't stand for something.

And if PO was the only thing keeping our season afloat this year, then we weren't very strong anyway, were we? Personally, I think it's a moot point anyway.

We, the fans, didn't turn our backs on Pete. He did that bit.

Pete has deliberately (or compulsively, possibly abetted by substance abuse or mental illness, or just plain greed?) torn his future with Albion to pieces. Face it: All the king's horses and all the king's men ...


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on February 01, 2013, 02:13:13 AM
There comes a time when we just have to give up trying to understand the whys and hows of PO.
Like most of us I would be happy to see him go. Thanks for all he did in his time here but he just destroyed our love for him and that will never be mended.

Can you imagine what his wife must be going through now?
Married to a footballer on more money than any of us earn and now theres a chance all of that will be thrown out and PO be shipped off on loan to another city or country.
Add the new baby in there and she must be ready to snap.... I wouldn't want to be in that house right now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wdbroun on February 01, 2013, 02:15:48 AM
Can you imagine what his wife must be going through now?
Married to a footballer on more money than any of us earn and now theres a chance all of that will be thrown out and PO be shipped off on loan to another city or country.
Add the new baby in there and she must be ready to snap.... I wouldn't want to be in that house right now.
Yup. He better get ready to do the washing-up for the next one or two or fifty years.  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on February 01, 2013, 02:27:29 AM
Saw this and had to laugh

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Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on February 01, 2013, 02:49:39 AM
That'll be a valley he's dug out by the morning. What I'd pay to be a fly on the wall when he shows up again!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on February 01, 2013, 03:16:23 AM
Final thoughts on the whole sorry episode

http://lookbackinmildbewilderment.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/hung-out-to-dry.html

Plainly the player has been tapped up and then left in the lurch by QPR. I do not absolve Peter from blame because he has been a grade a idiot and his reputaion is completely shot. I hope we can salavage something worthwhile from it but I suspect everyone ends up a loser.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieboy74 on February 01, 2013, 06:35:46 AM
What a disaster.  He cannot play for us again. QPR need to be investigated at the very least.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BigFrank20 on February 01, 2013, 06:40:33 AM
I can only see a couple of possibilities for him now to avoid finishing his time with us picking up litter at the training ground.
The club book him into the Priory and every-one talks about a 'breakdown' of some sort.
Or, and this is my favourite option, there is some sort of 'truth and reconciliation' commission set up, he tells the truth about the tapping up from QPR and his 'advisors', gets rid of said advisors and QPR & 'arry crash and burn as they deserve to for what they have done to our club and our player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
He can either apologise ASAP, release a statement saying he regrets his actions, committing himself to the club for the season. It'll be hollow, he'll still be a pariah, but it'll get him back in the fold. From there he'll have to keep his head down and work extremely hard, some good performances and the reaction will die down somewhat from the players and fans.

Or he won't, he'll come into training picking up his pay cheque till the end of the season, act as a divisive figure in the team, derail our season further, and probably not play again. Maybe a couple of sub appearences.

Or he'll just flat out refuse to play and go on strike.



The second scenario is probably most likely, he's clearly motivated strongly by money so going the rest of the season on strike won't be appealing and will be counter productive. He'll lose a million when he could just turn up to training and put in half hearted appearences a few times a week. The first scenario is possible but it seems fairly unlikely he's going to let this lie just yet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 01, 2013, 06:47:59 AM
A heavy fine, then an attempt at a reconcilliation would be the most sensible option. Is it possible under the rules for him to buy out his contract - reported to be worth in the region of £3m - without him facing a lengthy ban? I am not sure if this ban applies if we agree to him buying out his contract.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kev on February 01, 2013, 06:56:00 AM
I don't understand the club on this one . We now have a player that may not play first team football again . He made it clear he wants out we are now left paying a big wage for someone who dose not want to be a albion player .should of sold him and bought
 someone else in . What was the point to holding on to him . Well done albion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 07:03:33 AM
I guarantee these fans would want him in the team if we lost our next 5 lol!!!
Some people need to get a life.

Not sure if the some people need to get a life is aimed at me but hey petty or what, please forgive me for having a view that differs from yours  ::)

I don't know how Man City fans can forgive Tevez is the answer, he came back got his head down lets see if Pete does same but my thoughts won't change. I will never boo him but equally will never sing his name.

Put an arm round him ? bless

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Philly88 on February 01, 2013, 07:05:00 AM
A heavy fine, then an attempt at a reconcilliation would be the most sensible option. Is it possible under the rules for him to buy out his contract - reported to be worth in the region of £3m - without him facing a lengthy ban? I am not sure if this ban applies if we agree to him buying out his contract.

I'm sure I heard CL say the ban would still be 4-6 months, even if he does buy out his contract
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 07:07:09 AM
I don't understand the club on this one . We now have a player that may not play first team football again . He made it clear he wants out we are now left paying a big wage for someone who dose not want to be a albion player .should of sold him and bought
 someone else in . What was the point to holding on to him . Well done albion

So you think the club should cave into a mercenary and let him go for less than we value him after all the dirty tricks that have gone on ?

Both QPR (either Twitchy or AN other), Pete and his advisors have all acted disgracefully. Upto him now where it goes from here. The window in Russia is still open, maybe he'll get a move back.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2013, 07:08:14 AM
I don't understand the club on this one . We now have a player that may not play first team football again . He made it clear he wants out we are now left paying a big wage for someone who dose not want to be a albion player .should of sold him and bought
 someone else in . What was the point to holding on to him . Well done albion

If the club let him go for what was clearly well under his value (particularly in January), they just leave themselves open to being bullied by players for moves in the future. Otherwise every time a player kicks up a fuss we'll just have to sell them for a 1/3 of their value because they might not like it and refuse to play. Hence players will use that tactic against us.


Of course, there is one other option for Odemwingie. Maybe some foreign club will take him on loan for the season, i'm not sure when the Turkish/Russian windows close though. Or maybe one of the Qatari clubs, like when Gyan left Sunderland a couple of years back.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 01, 2013, 07:19:23 AM
We should all support the club 100% on this issue, they did not create it, they dealt with it to the best of their collective abilities, PO caused this situation, its down to PO to sort it out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 07:32:28 AM
European options still open for Pete if he still wants to go:

Opens 10 January and closes 2 April 11.59.59pm
Sweden

Opens 14 January and closes 8 February 11.59.59pm
Serbia

Opens 14 January and closes 5 April 11.59.59pm
Norway

Opens 16 January and closes 15 February 11.59.59pm
Switzerland

Opens 28 January and closes 27 February 11.59.59pm
Russia

Opens 31 January and closes 15 February 11.59.59pm
Ukraine

Opens 1 February and closes 28 February 11.59.59pm
Bulgaria
Poland

Opens 11 February and closes 6 May 5.59.59pm
Finland
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie Artist on February 01, 2013, 07:41:37 AM
Quote
If the club let him go for what was clearly well under his value (particularly in January), they just leave themselves open to being bullied by players for moves in the future. Otherwise every time a player kicks up a fuss we'll just have to sell them for a 1/3 of their value because they might not like it and refuse to play. Hence players will use that tactic against us.

£3.5 million, no sign off bonus and 40k a week off the wage bill (for someone who isn't a key player any more) isn't a million miles off his value. It seems in the end the issue was getting a replacement in.

That's why our January strategy  seems a bit inconsistent. We're not willing to sell a player as we couldn't find a replacement for him in time but at the same time in thirty one days we couldn't bring in a single player to ease the deficiencies already in the squad. We needed another winger  regardless of what happened with Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 01, 2013, 07:42:24 AM
Some people are talking about 'poor old Pete, he's had a breakdown, book him into the Priory'
Rubbish.
He knew exactly what he was doing, on his own admission he's wanted away in previous transfer windows. I've said since he came here he's not a team player, 90% of the time he plays for PO not WBA.
I would imagine that he's for the high hurdles once the lawyers have sifted through the debacle that he's left.
Hopefully they can fine him enough  so that we do not have to pay him another penny piece for the rest of his contract.
We should get rid, no way back IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: coleyboing on February 01, 2013, 08:04:37 AM
It's a very difficult situation for club and whatever decision board take we must stand by that and support.
I just hope this doesn't create more issues and bad tension on the players who are already in a bad patch
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 01, 2013, 08:13:15 AM
I guarantee these fans would want him in the team if we lost our next 5 lol!!!
Some people need to get a life.

He shouldn't play for us again no matter what, and spare those who disagree with you the "get a life" comments eh?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 01, 2013, 08:18:06 AM
He can either apologise ASAP, release a statement saying he regrets his actions, committing himself to the club for the season. It'll be hollow, he'll still be a pariah, but it'll get him back in the fold.

That shouldn't get him back into the fold, as everyone will know it's a pack of lies.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on February 01, 2013, 08:19:32 AM
I guarantee these fans would want him in the team if we lost our next 5 lol!!!
Some people need to get a life.


Outrageous statement.
He should be sacked
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 01, 2013, 08:20:20 AM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/no-deadline-day-move-for-peter-632183.aspx

“As our Sporting & Technical Director (designate) Richard Garlick has repeatedly said in recent days, we had no need or desire to sell our core players."


Except that Odemwingie's actions during this despicable episode have meant that he's no longer a core player. In fact, he shouldn't be any kind of player for the first team again until he goes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 01, 2013, 08:24:19 AM
He should watch the press conference with Beckham yesterday.
Bloke turns up for his new club, smart and suited, speaks eloquently (that doesnt come easy for him either) about his reasons for signing for Paris, then donates his wages to a childrens charity.

Fast forward, Pete turns up (uninvited) teashirt and jeans, tallks bo££ocks, and his eyes roll over with the pounds signs evident. Turns round and drives back home with his tail between his legs.

No comparison.
One a class above and the other a class way below.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 08:30:16 AM
We simply couldn't cave in on this one, we were promised Hoilett and once Pete was on his way Fernandez took to twitter and tried to screw us.

Allowing this to happen would of showed weakness.

Be pragmatic, Pete is a prostitute - let's treat him like one and get what we want without emotion.

If he plays up we keep fining him and he ends up 33 and unable to get what he's on now, let alone more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jw on February 01, 2013, 08:49:37 AM
In many ways the situation was a no win one for the Albion, however I'm quite pleased that the club have had the balls to stand up to player power for once.  How often do we see that in todays game? How many of us complain that player power is destroying the game with the wage demands that trickle through and then cause higher ticket prices, pushing real fans away? In basic terms it was bullying by PO and QPR and Albion stood up to them and said no.  Fair play Albion.  Like i said, no win situation, we've got him, he doesn't want us but at least we are one club in English football that stood up to be counted and said no.

On another note found this on Dirty Tackle Yahoo sports and it made me laugh...

So after doing whatever he wanted, Odemwingie now has a few options. He can start his own club in the Loftus Road parking lot and call it OPR. He can tunnel his way into QPR's ground like someone trying to escape into a prison where the inmates get paid really, really well...

Or he can follow the teachings of George Costanza and do this...   http://t.co/gyJtWscW
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on February 01, 2013, 08:52:25 AM
Hoillet not wanting to come on loan according to QPR.ORG.

I await mr pig in lipstick to have his say :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 09:17:07 AM
Was he told by our club to go to QPR.We pulled the plug because Fernandez changed his mind about hoillet or as i hear Holiett didnt want to come to us.
Totally ill advised by all.Odemwingie must have been 100% sure having heard him talking about QPR like he had signed, we will stay up bla bla we signed some good players bla bla.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 54hines on February 01, 2013, 09:34:47 AM
I have to agree with a previous poster on this issue, the club was in danger of being bullied / blackmailed by a player and another club. The easy short term  option would have been to take the money resulting in the bank balance looking better and the problem player gone and wait for the dust to settle. But to the clubs credit they have gone for the longer term option ,by not caving in they have sent out the message to other clubs and present and future players, that the club is bigger than any of them and this will be of benefit to us over the longer term. I am no fan of Sir Alex but he has taken this stance and he seems to have been pretty successful.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on February 01, 2013, 09:36:26 AM
This greedy git must be made to face the consequences of his actions.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on February 01, 2013, 09:38:33 AM
Was he told by our club to go to QPR.We pulled the plug because Fernandez changed his mind about hoillet or as i hear Holiett didnt want to come to us.
Totally ill advised by all.Odemwingie must have been 100% sure having heard him talking about QPR like he had signed, we will stay up bla bla we signed some good players bla bla.

Well, surely he needed to be at QPR in anticipation of a loan deal being done re Hoilett?  If a deal had been struck then if PO had still been in the West Midlands it might have been impossible to complete the deal anyway.

There is clearly a big difference between getting there to complete a likely agreed deal, and trying to force the deal through even when the two clubs had not yet agreed anything. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Cantello on February 01, 2013, 09:47:13 AM
Always hated QPR/Rodney Marsh since the cup final that broke my young heart.  I'm praying they go down after this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 09:48:27 AM
I think him turning up at Loftus Road and speaking as a QPR player makes an excuses for his behaviour futile.

If he had half a brain he would of parked up and waited somewhere else, but he couldn't manage to go quietly and for the second time blew the whistle on Harry's tapping up.

Did anyone see Harry and the QPR CEO at 10.55pm? They had clearly been contacted by our lawyers and were crapping themselves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on February 01, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
The club are clearly gunning for Pete now. Rightly so.

First reason I think this is due to the picture they have used on the official website announcing that he didn't make the dealine deal:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/no-deadline-day-move-for-peter-632183.aspx

They could have used any number of pictures taken of him actually playing, but they chose to go with a picture of him on the bench.

Second reason is allowing Brunt to have a public interview condemning his actions and saying his is in for a 'rough ride' from players and fans.

Good on 'em.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 10:06:26 AM
 bet what happened was that West Brom spoke to Odenwingie and told him we'd made an offer which they had counter offered, asking for Hoilett and that if all went well he could go. He then took this as them letting him go so left to come down to Loftus Road.

In the meantime we rejected their offer and the deal was at a stalemate.

When SSN interviewed Odenwingie outside Loftus Road he talked about the deal and West Brom wanting to get players in and hoped the deal could be worked out for all. Maybe he was referring to Hoilett potentially going the other way?

He jumped the gun a bit but was under the impression West Brom would let him go. (which they would, but only if they got Hoilett)

When we/Hoilett said no it all went pear shaped and the deal fell down


Pretty much how i see it really
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on February 01, 2013, 10:13:23 AM
is anyone listening to his sky sports interview right now???

Trying to get the club involved in a storm now by saying he arrived at West Brom in a unprofessional way!!!!!

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is done here
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: ronnie_allen on February 01, 2013, 10:14:48 AM
I presume that Odemwingie would have probably been advised to be in the vicinity of QPR (and try to keep a low profile) for the eventuality of a deal being struck. I assume many players do similar whose deals are up in the air. I don't think he was told to drive straight up to the ground and stop for a friendly chat with Sky Sports though and say how "We" look well set to avoid relegation and that "we" as a club our showing great ambition in signing so many players.

By the way, does Odemwingie have an agent. Not sure how much of his advice Odemwingie would have taken on board but certainly not good PR for the agent either. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on February 01, 2013, 10:16:10 AM
he "wanted to leave for some time now"

Why did you sign a new contract then???

Penarse!!!!

Lost all belief in this guy I have
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 01, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
In many ways the situation was a no win one for the Albion, however I'm quite pleased that the club have had the balls to stand up to player power for once.  How often do we see that in todays game? How many of us complain that player power is destroying the game with the wage demands that trickle through and then cause higher ticket prices, pushing real fans away? In basic terms it was bullying by PO and QPR and Albion stood up to them and said no.  Fair play Albion.  Like i said, no win situation, we've got him, he doesn't want us but at least we are one club in English football that stood up to be counted and said no.

On another note found this on Dirty Tackle Yahoo sports and it made me laugh...

So after doing whatever he wanted, Odemwingie now has a few options. He can start his own club in the Loftus Road parking lot and call it OPR. He can tunnel his way into QPR's ground like someone trying to escape into a prison where the inmates get paid really, really well...

Or he can follow the teachings of George Costanza and do this...   http://t.co/gyJtWscW

I disagree, I think the club have won to a certain extent.
Firstly we've realised what a parasite Pete is and can take action accordingly.
Secondly we've realised what a parasite Hoilett is prefering to sit in the reserves at a club where he realistically has no chance of playing this season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 10:17:01 AM
is anyone listening to his sky sports interview right now???

Trying to get the club involved in a storm now by saying he arrived at West Brom in a unprofessional way!!!!!

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is done here


The thing is nobody with any sort of a brain will believe a word he says now anyway.

He is football scum. Let him rot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 10:18:02 AM
West Brom really have got some front. They deserve to end up with nothing.
And they still have to pay Odemwinge's wages.
And they'll never get the same offer again  quote QPR.ORG
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 10:21:00 AM
West Brom really have got some front. They deserve to end up with nothing.
And they still have to pay Odemwinge's wages.
And they'll never get the same offer again  quote QPR.ORG


Stuff them. Tin pot, nothing little club with a rich "non fan" as an owner and as for 'Arry, well its probably best not to comment.

They are the sort of combination that is awful for the sport.

Well done Jeremy Peace and well done Baggies, so proud of you!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on February 01, 2013, 10:29:22 AM
At the moment i dont see the point in an apology, its a hollow gesture.

Scumbag gave his transfer request, nothing wrong with that, thats his choice.

After that he released his statement (no apology followed) he then took to twitter for his rant (no apology followed) he then took to twitter again (no apology followed) and then yesterday actions of turning up at another club, talking about 'us' as in QPR and been a general bell**nd.

He isnt sorry so why make him say he is, an apology should mean something, not just so he can be given an easier ride the next 5 months. We have other strikers at the club, he is clearly going in the Summer so why not get players involved now (Rosenberg, Beraniho) who will actually be here next season, give them there chance, bed them in.

I would let him rot, i would be reluctant to even let him near a football and just make him run and run and run. If he does apologise for me personally it means nothing, he doesnt mean it and he is the only Albion player i have ever wished to have abuse when he plays for us, if we ever and unlucky enough to have the mercenary pull on a shirt i hope the fans destroy him, his team mates have got no time for him either so it wont affect them, may even turn into a positive.

Odemwingie has within the last 7 days acted with disrespect to the club on 4 seperate occasions, once and an apology you let is pass, maybe even twice, but 4 times, no chance the bloke is a greedy petulant brat who deserves everything he gets.

(PS - I am usually a very forgiving person and dont hold grudges but when somebody takes the mick like he does then it goes too far)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 01, 2013, 10:38:36 AM
is anyone listening to his sky sports interview right now???

Trying to get the club involved in a storm now by saying he arrived at West Brom in a unprofessional way!!!!!

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is done here

Given Dan Ashworth's new employers he is gettng far more then the club involved.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on February 01, 2013, 10:40:04 AM
Just had SAF on Odemwingie....he stood by West Broms decision and basically ripped PO for a wasted journey
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on February 01, 2013, 10:45:46 AM
By the way, does Odemwingie have an agent. Not sure how much of his advice Odemwingie would have taken on board but certainly not good PR for the agent either.

So who was actually in the car with PO when he did his interview at Loftus Road?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on February 01, 2013, 10:46:45 AM
I suspect a deal was set up with Hoilett coming to us either on loan or with a view to staying , i think Pete jumped the gun and headed down to QPR but in the mean time Fernandes pulled the plug on the Hoilett part.
Personally i think that was a pre planned tactic to put us on the spot and they had no intention of Hoilett leaving , they then hoped as Pete was at Loftus road we would back down and save face and quietly let him go.
Thankfully JP doesn't allow such bullying or crafty things to go ahead, just my take on things but thats what i suspect.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 10:54:22 AM
I suspect a deal was set up with Hoilett coming to us either on loan or with a view to staying , i think Pete jumped the gun and headed down to QPR but in the mean time Fernandes pulled the plug on the Hoilett part.
Personally i think that was a pre planned tactic to put us on the spot and they had no intention of Hoilett leaving , they then hoped as Pete was at Loftus road we would back down and save face and quietly let him go.
Thankfully JP doesn't allow such bullying or crafty things to go ahead, just my take on things but thats what i suspect.

Spot on.

Once he was there they presumed we would just cave in.......They obviously didn't do their research.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 01, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
How can an employee have this much power and control over his employers, the game is dead.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 10:57:12 AM
How can an employee have this much power and control over his employers, the game is dead.


The point is he hasn't the club has proved that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BobTaylor on February 01, 2013, 10:58:43 AM
I wonder if English FA will open an investigation into the odemwingie transfer from lokomotiv after what twatface has just said on sky sports news about Ashworth.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Noty Bromway on February 01, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
is anyone listening to his sky sports interview right now???

Trying to get the club involved in a storm now by saying he arrived at West Brom in a unprofessional way!!!!!

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is done here

What did the interview say?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Billbailey on February 01, 2013, 11:00:03 AM
So it seems youlot tapped up PO . Him having a medical without a agreement between his previous club. 
			
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 01, 2013, 11:00:49 AM

The point is he hasn't the club has proved that.

Well he has, the club are now in no viable position to put him on the pitch. Without saying so he has managed to get himself on strike, he is still getting his 40k a week regardless of what he says from now on. Its madness. He has just been on SSN saying that we approached him illegally whilst he was at Lokomotiv, I can't see the club taking kindly to that.

Can't we just sack him?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 11:01:36 AM
I wonder if English FA will open an investigation into the odemwingie transfer from lokomotiv after what twatface has just said on sky sports news about Ashworth.


I shouldn't think so. They're not likely to merely take the word of a bordering on insane, bitter little prostitute are they?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 11:04:51 AM
I wonder if English FA will open an investigation into the odemwingie transfer from lokomotiv after what twatface has just said on sky sports news about Ashworth.


If so not a good start for Ashworth and the FA
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 11:05:32 AM
Well he has, the club are now in no viable position to put him on the pitch. Without saying so he has managed to get himself on strike, he is still getting his 40k a week regardless of what he says from now on. Its madness. He has just been on SSN saying that we approached him illegally whilst he was at Lokomotiv, I can't see the club taking kindly to that.

Can't we just sack him?


He was DESPERATE to leave and tried just about any means to do that. The club didn't give in to him despite the probability of losing money on him they took the correct and strong stance asnd basically showed him who's boss.

Odemwingie HASN'T got what he wanted, the club has.

I don't want him sacked, leave him here let him rot until THE CLUB are ready to move him on. His head is too big but he's messed with the wrong person in Jeremy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
Well that's him definitely finished then. Had he made a hollow apology and kept his head down he'd have had a slight chance of reintegrating himself. Instead he's dragging it out and derailing the club, I wonder how much money he's cost himself in the chase for more money? Can you consecutively fine players for different offences? I know 2 weeks is the maximum, but there's a whole lot of different actions he could be fined for here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 11:07:21 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2271453/Peter-Odemwingie-refused-permission-speak-QPR.html

No wonder he wanted to move apparently we've only been paying him £15,000 a week. What a load of garbage they churn out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 11:10:24 AM
So it seems youlot tapped up PO . Him having a medical without a agreement between his previous club.

He'd best have proof then, because as demonstrated last night - he will need to stand up in court and say it.

Runt clubs like QPR will not bully or intimidate us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 11:12:55 AM
Can't we just sack him?

That's what he (and QPR) wants to happen.  We sack him, he's a free agent, can sign outside the transfer window for any club.  It would cost him 18 months wages which no doubt would be paid by QPR via Pete - after all he's saved them a transfer fee.  We could possibly take him to court for lost revenue but that would be a tough sell.

Personally, I'd give him the option of training with the kids or going out on loan to Mcleish at Forest or something.  If he stays at the club I'd fine him as much as possible for while he's here.  Just let him rot in the reserves, let's see him find a good club when he's 33 and hasn't played a competitive game for 18 months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
Can't write Redknapp - "the boy, the boy, the boy". Is Odemwingie 19 / 20 then?

You lost this one melt face, lets hope you lose your Premiership status as well.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 01, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
That's what he (and QPR) wants to happen.  We sack him, he's a free agent, can sign outside the transfer window for any club.  It would cost him 18 months wages which no doubt would be paid by QPR via Pete - after all he's saved them a transfer fee.  We could possibly take him to court for lost revenue but that would be a tough sell.

Personally, I'd give him the option of training with the kids or going out on loan to Mcleish at Forest or something.  If he stays at the club I'd fine him as much as possible for while he's here.  Just let him rot in the reserves, let's see him find a good club when he's 33 and hasn't played a competitive game for 18 months.

Would expect that there would be the possibility if you could go down that route legally to withhold his registration for the remainder of the contract. I don't think it would ever get that far though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 01, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
That's what he (and QPR) wants to happen.  We sack him, he's a free agent, can sign outside the transfer window for any club.  It would cost him 18 months wages which no doubt would be paid by QPR via Pete - after all he's saved them a transfer fee.  We could possibly take him to court for lost revenue but that would be a tough sell.

Personally, I'd give him the option of training with the kids or going out on loan to Mcleish at Forest or something.  If he stays at the club I'd fine him as much as possible for while he's here.  Just let him rot in the reserves, let's see him find a good club when he's 33 and hasn't played a competitive game for 18 months.

Gardening leave it is then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Billbailey on February 01, 2013, 11:17:11 AM
He'd best have proof then, because as demonstrated last night - he will need to stand up in court and say it.

Runt clubs like QPR will not bully or intimidate us.
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2013, 11:19:53 AM
I wouldn't believe much of what Odemwingie says to be honest. The situation is quite different regardless, If I remember correctly he was being offered to clubs by Lokomotiv at the time anyway and they wanted rid of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.


He'll go when WE want him to. Stuff you and your poxy little club. Do you really think he'd want to know you if it weren't for your plastic chairman throwing ridiculous money at him?

You're a small, nothing club going nowhere despite chucking money around. Approx. £40 million (overall) for Samba, lol lol lol. Mind numbingly  desperate and laughable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbastrollers on February 01, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
I suspect a deal was set up with Hoilett coming to us either on loan or with a view to staying , i think Pete jumped the gun and headed down to QPR but in the mean time Fernandes pulled the plug on the Hoilett part.
Personally i think that was a pre planned tactic to put us on the spot and they had no intention of Hoilett leaving , they then hoped as Pete was at Loftus road we would back down and save face and quietly let him go.
Thankfully JP doesn't allow such bullying or crafty things to go ahead, just my take on things but thats what i suspect.

That sounds about right Dexy-PO would not be so stupid as to "off his own bat" would he!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 11:22:46 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

How did the news of QPR's interest get out there?  Oh, that's right 'Arry.  Every step of the way he's been bending Odemwingie's ear.  I bet you wouldn't need too many guesses where the idea of going on twitter to force a move came from either. 

QPR thought they could force a move through.  They failed and I'm glad they had.  I'd rather see Odemwingie sitting on our bench for 18 months than let QPR tactics succeed. 

Enjoy the championship and consecutive administrations.  Have you seen 'Arry's track record at struggling clubs?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 01, 2013, 11:23:06 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

You paid £12.5m for Chris Samba and then gave him a 100k a week contract for the next four and a half years. Can you blame us for trying to take the urine?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: ronnie_allen on February 01, 2013, 11:24:07 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

West Brom put a valuation on one of their key players which was not met by QPR. The player then does all he can to reduce his value to West Brom, in a bid to facilitate the move. If West Brom give in, it sets a terrible precedent and makes a clear statement that once a player wants to move - just act the brat and you'll get it.
West Brom are in a stable position on (despite our horrendous slump in form) and off the field and felt that selling Odemwingie below our valuation would seriously destabilise team morale and ethics in future.
Also, from what I hear, Hoillet was offered as part of the deal but either the player and/or the club withdrew this part of  the bargain around the time Odemwingie was nearing in on West London.
If  you feel like you are the ones being bullied (assuming you are a QPR man like Odemwingie) then fair play to our boys for holding such a strong firm line.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on February 01, 2013, 11:24:20 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

We have every right to ask for what we want. He is under a contract that he was more than happy to sign.  We didnt want to sell him.  He was on you're car park.  It played into our hands and we no doubt played hard ball.  You didnt want to pay what we were happy to sell him for so fair play to you.  You didnt get bulldozed by us and we didnt get bulldozed by the player.
 
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Noty Bromway on February 01, 2013, 11:25:35 AM
I'd bet money him leaving on one of jp's "loans" with view to perm....maybe still to qpr...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
The blokes a laughing stock, even Kevin Pietersen taking the pee now

Kevin Pietersen ?@kevinpp24

I got a great hash tag for this geezer from West Brom called @odemwingiep .. #reintegration
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
is anyone listening to his sky sports interview right now???

Trying to get the club involved in a storm now by saying he arrived at West Brom in a unprofessional way!!!!!

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is done here

We all know PO is a good player, but he uses that fact to bully everyone to get what he wants. We can't play him because what would that do to team morale and unity? It would cheapen us.

PO saying we got him 'unprofessionally' from Lokomotiv is his way of saying that if we stir up pooh about HIS club QPR tapping him up, which they clearly did, he will attack us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on February 01, 2013, 11:28:05 AM
Hes now learned you do not mess with Jeremy and WBA.

Hes an idiot of the highest order and in my view is indefendable after last nights antics coupled with that of last week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on February 01, 2013, 11:28:27 AM
Any individual who offers this idiot support after this is not a West Bromwich Albion fan, but a supporter of Peter Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 11:31:42 AM
So it seems youlot tapped up PO . Him having a medical without a agreement between his previous club.

His club wanted rid of him and we would have had permission to talk to him. The final fee agreement may not have been agreed but look at the Fer transfer to Everton - had medical and the agreement still hadn't been finalised.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Billbailey on February 01, 2013, 11:37:02 AM
You paid £12.5m for Chris Samba and then gave him a 100k a week contract for the next four and a half years. Can you blame us for trying to take the pee?
Is this paper talk right? Because tony came out testers at and said we are not paying samba 100k a week he agreed to take a drastic wage cut. Yet the papers still lose to theow around the figures he was earning at anzhi thinking he would be on the same here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
I'd like to know why Pete knew his wages would be increased if he never spoke to QPR...

I mean, he started saying "us" and "we" like he knew what the deal was and he was just there for a photo and to sign a form.  What if QPR had turned around and offered him £1000 a week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

If you're desperate should pay us more than £3.5m you daft sod. He'd have gone for 5 and if you're throwing money away at Samba and intended to for Crouch you could have got your man IF YOU MET OUR VALUATION. This is the Premier League, don't expect handouts to your tin pot club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 11:38:49 AM
Is this paper talk right? Because tony came out testers at and said we are not paying samba 100k a week he agreed to take a drastic wage cut. Yet the papers still lose to theow around the figures he was earning at anzhi thinking he would be on the same here.

He was on £175k a week at Anzhi thanks to the tax rate, so £100k a week is a drastic wage cut.  It's obvious that's what he's on - these figures don't come out of thin air.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Noty Bromway on February 01, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
Is this paper talk right? Because tony came out testers at and said we are not paying samba 100k a week he agreed to take a drastic wage cut. Yet the papers still lose to theow around the figures he was earning at anzhi thinking he would be on the same here.

Is hoilet really on 50k a week? :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on February 01, 2013, 11:42:02 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

Best comparison, imagine if Fulham tried to sign Taarabt off QPR the way QPR / Odemwingie have done. Say you value Taarabt at £7m, Fulham offer £3m, he then says he wants to leave, releases a false statement, has a twitter tantrum, has another twitter tantrum the whole time keeping it in the press. Fulham then come in and offer £4m, you say no, we want £7m thats what he is worth, regardless of whether he is happy or not, we value him at £7m, he is a proven top flight player. Taarabt then turns up at Craven Cottage, basically trying to force his move with hours to spare, Fulham then say okay we will give you £4.5m, do you at that point because the player and Fulham have kept it in the public eye give in to them?

No course you dont, its principle, if Fulham wanted Taarabt that bad they would pay the £7m what you valued him at from day one, i personally think Redknapp would of liked him (like he does most players) but i think Fernandes has probably assessed Odemwingies behaviour the last week or so and thought does he really want another overpaid mercenary on the books? And thats why he hasnt met Albions valuation.

Players talk to other clubs all the time, its not right but it happens, however just because they do the player shouldnt think he can bully the club. I dont think QPR have done that much wrong or bullied Albion, i think they shouldnt of made it public but they have because the manager just loves talking about other peoples players, yet doesnt like it when same happens to him. I think a bit of brinksmanship has took place from both clubs, Albion stood firm and supposedly asked for Hoilett, cheeky offer by all accounts, QPR said okay then changed their mind, thats their choice, and probably hoped as Odemwingie was already at Loftus Road Albion would accept a lesser fee just to get it done but thats now how we run.

I dont hate QPR, part of me wants you to go down as i think you are the exact opposite of whats good at football the way you have done it by overpaying players and frees, but also thats not the fans fault. I like Redknapp as a football bloke, his teams are entertaining but i dont like the way he conducts transfer at his club because one day he will bugger off and leave you in a financial mess like he has other clubs and again its the fans who suffer. Fernandes would also have to take his blame for authorising such overpayments but like i said previous i think he has been naive and people like Hughes and Redknapp have gladly blown his money but they will both remove themselves from blame if you go down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 11:43:55 AM
And apparently Samba has no relegation clause in his contract.  That's amazing.  Paying £100k a week for a soon to be championship player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 01, 2013, 11:45:46 AM
How are we trying to bully you? It has nothing to do with us what dodgy dealings you done when PO first joined you.
Lets be honest your player wants to move has offered to give his 300k bonus back to west brom so he can move . You then ask for 3.5m and junior hoilett on loan with us paying his wages LOL. I'm sorry who do you think is being the bully here? Know that we are desperate so you are trying to milk us because we have money.
End of the day PO will now be chilling with his family earning 40k a week for doing nothing. Whilst WBA could of got 3.5mil when you paid 1.5m and is he now 31. Sounds like WBA thought we would crumble with our more than respected  offer.

Billy boy, we have something that your gurney faced manager wanted.
You couldn't or wouldn't pay the going rate that Jezza wanted so the old twicher leaked the offer to the paper and turned Odemwingies head.
Your loss not ours, theres no way we will be paying him £40K a week to sit on hiss back side.
Trust in JP
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 11:46:35 AM
Bill Bailey,

QPR agreed to Hoilett and then went back on their word thinking we would just crumble - you thought wrong.

Have you any proof of us doing wrong with regards to his original transfer? Or are you just going on Pete the Prozzies version of events?

Some things are bigger than money, standing up to the cancer on football that is Fernandez, QPR and most of all Redknapp is far more important.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: SirTonyM on February 01, 2013, 11:50:07 AM
If you have Redknapp as manager it is impossible to play the moral high ground.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
I don't buy the Hoilett "story" for a minute, we certainly aren't getting the full, correct facts.

He's rubbish anyway I'm glad he's staying where he is gathering splinters that a bottom three club is paying for.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 11:51:36 AM
Harry has just said he's dissapointed for Odemwingie as he is "a lovely lad".

How does he know that then?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on February 01, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
He won't be playing Sunday that's for sure.

He's been sent home from training and given a few days off according to Steve whatsit from Express and Dingle!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 01, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
According to Di Matteo at the time terms were agreed with Locomotiv before Odemwingie was even in the country, let alone before being given permission to approach him.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-brom-agree-odemwingie-deal-2055789.html

Plus Odemwingie is no stranger to trying to engineer moves.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/7786265.stm
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Gaffer on February 01, 2013, 11:55:21 AM
He won't be playing Sunday that's for sure.

He's been sent home from training and given a few days off according to Steve whatsit from Express and Dingle!


Yeah he has, to "get his head straight". He will need more than a few days off to sort his mental state out, he needs professional help.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2013, 11:57:11 AM
The days off will be for the rest of the team rather than Odemwingie. He's just a distraction to them and only going to be divisive.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 01, 2013, 11:59:56 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/374579/Christopher-Samba-row-as-he-quits-for-QPR

It seems we have a common denominator appearing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on February 01, 2013, 12:02:28 PM
Bill Bailey....


Get yourself a hair cut! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 01, 2013, 12:07:34 PM
Bill Bailey....


Get yourself a hair cut! ;D

He's too busy getting his wings  clipped right now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
According to Di Matteo at the time terms were agreed with Locomotiv before Odemwingie was even in the country, let alone before being given permission to approach him.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-brom-agree-odemwingie-deal-2055789.html

Plus Odemwingie is no stranger to trying to engineer moves.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/7786265.stm

Interesting quote from the BBC page

"My priority will be the English Premier League, and then [after that] it would be a real big club in Europe," he told BBC Sport.

"Of course I'll be looking at the best clubs in England, maybe the top five or six, not a smaller team if I have the choice of a big club in Europe."


And yet he was begging to join QPR   ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 12:11:17 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/374579/Christopher-Samba-row-as-he-quits-for-QPR

It seems we have a common denominator appearing.

Yeah but in his case as soon as a club offers the amount in his release clause he doesn't need to have clubs permission, they gave that when he wrote his contract. Odemwingie must think he had one of those.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on February 01, 2013, 12:13:03 PM
Press conferance later about Odemwingies future. That'll be fun! lol

Peter Odemwingie has hit back at West Bromwich Albion after his proposed move to Queens Park Rangers fell through on the final day of the transfer window.

The striker accused the club of reneging on a gentleman's agreement to let him sign for the west London club, saying he believed West Brom's technical director, Dan Ashworth, had sanctioned the move. He also claimed Albion had signed him from Lokomotiv Moscow without permission.

Odemwingie turned up at Loftus Road on Thursday night expecting to sign, but was barred from the stadium. He had submitted a transfer request at The Hawthorns but when it was rejected he tweeted his frustration. However, a deal with QPR looked set to happen on Thursday, with Albion taking Junior Hoilett on loan in part-exchange, only for the QPR forward to refuse to move.

Although West Brom said they had no agreement over the transfer and Odemwingie did not have permission to speak to Rangers, the 31-year-old Nigerian then appeared at Loftus Road, where he was denied access. Despite attempts to revive the deal 15 minutes before the deadline, it fell apart.

Odemwingie told Sky Sports News: "I learned now that the role of technical director is not superior to a chairman. When you are in England, you are gentlemen and you have to understand each other. After talks there was no need for training. I said I can go now, I got the go ahead from what I understand.

"I went round to thank everyone in the club, the laundry, left some autographs. I promised to come back next week. I will miss them. I went to see everyone to say thanks very much. In my opinion everything was done right. In the last moment I don't know what happened. I think he [Ashworth] can deny it, he has to look good in this situation."

West Brom said Odemwingie had behaved "wholly unprofessionally" and the club's chairman, Jeremy Peace, added: "Peter must now accept the fact he remains under contract for a further 18 months and has to focus on his Albion commitments."

Odemwingie retorted: "We will find a way forward which is suitable for everyone. The truth is we all went wrong somewhere. A few days ago [Peace] told me himself we could have handled it differently. I agreed. I said we have burned some bridges. It was never out of money, it was my professional desire. I was ready to give up my bonus of £300K already earned and I offered it back to the club.

"I don't know really what happened. Whatever path we have to take, we need to sit down and iron this issue out. I came to this club in a wholly unprofessional way. I wasn't given any permission by Lokomotiv Moscow. I'm saying these things don't matter so much when adults are dealing with each other."

West Brom will hope Odemwingie can put all thoughts of the past week out of his mind and concentrate on club matters, starting on Sunday when ninth-placed Albion host fourth-placed Tottenham Hotspur in the Premier League. The club are due to hold a press conference on Friday afternoon at which Odemwingie's future will be addressed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/01/peter-odemwingie-west-brom-transfer
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 01, 2013, 12:19:20 PM
Interesting quote from the BBC page

"My priority will be the English Premier League, and then [after that] it would be a real big club in Europe," he told BBC Sport.

"Of course I'll be looking at the best clubs in England, maybe the top five or six, not a smaller team if I have the choice of a big club in Europe."


And yet he was begging to join QPR   ::)

That made me laugh. Someone should put that quote on the photo of him outside Loftus Road, maybe with an insert from the league table!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 12:25:36 PM
Harry has just said he's dissapointed for Odemwingie as he is "a lovely lad".

How does he know that then?

And Pete also said "His plan was to keep me for the next two-and-a-half years because he wants to build a team and do what he did at Tottenham."

How did he know that?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 01, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
Bill? Oh Bill?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 12:39:47 PM
Billy Boy you have gone quite.You can have your man on a free in 18 months time.You all deserve each other.Odemwonga will bleach in well with all your other mercenaries
Your club is the biggest plastic club going, a little like your pitch in the eighties.Fernandez and Twitchy are con men.Enjoy the championship where you belong
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 12:40:04 PM
And Pete also said "His plan was to keep me for the next two-and-a-half years because he wants to build a team and do what he did at Tottenham."

How did he know that?

Harry will come to rue the day he spoke to this motormouth.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on February 01, 2013, 12:41:02 PM
Odemwingie spent 40 minutes at the Baggies’ training ground before leaving, telling the Express & Star he would return to work next week.

The Nigeria international, who was branded “unprofessional” by chairman Jeremy Peace today after driving to Queens Park Rangers to negotiate a move without Albion’s permission.

The 31-year-old held talks with outgoing sporting & technical director Dan Ashworth today in the latest twist to the bizarre transfer saga.

Odemwingie said: “I had a good chat with Dan this morning and the club will say more later. I have been given a few days off but I will be back in training next week.”

Odemwingie drove to QPR last night to clinch a move but West Brom then insisted he did not have permission to speak to the London club, as no fee had been agreed between the clubs.

Chairman Jeremy Peace later blasted Odemwingie, who was interviewed on television outside Loftus Road, speaking about the move.

Peace described the saga as “an unsavoury affair” and said: “As our sporting & technical director (designate) Richard Garlick has repeatedly said in recent days, we had no need or desire to sell our core players.

“The only way we would have considered letting Peter leave was if an acceptable offer was forthcoming and if we had found a suitable replacement at relatively short notice.

“Neither materialised and, in the end, the matter became a point of principle as much as anything.

“Peter has acted wholly unprofessionally. He must now accept the fact he remains under contract for a further 18 months and has to focus on his Albion commitments.”

But Odemwingie today attempted to turn the tables on West Brom as an angry war of words erupted.

The Nigeria international insisted he would “build bridges” with his team-mates.

But the forward, who will now miss Sunday’s potentially angry reception from fans at the home game against Tottenham, responded to chairman Jeremy Peace’s claim he had been “wholly unprofessional” by alleging the Baggies spoke to him in 2010 before reaching a deal with Lokomotiv Moscow.

Odemwingie said: "They were not professional when I came here. They did not have permission from Lokomotiv to talk to me, but we still did the medical and I came here.”

And he claimed he offered to waive half of a £300,000 sum in unpaid bonuses to help ease through a move to Loftus Road, during talks with the outgoing Ashworth.

He said: "I have a bonus of £300,000 and I offered him half and he turned that down. I don’t believe this is anything about money. I don’t know what happened there. There was a misunderstanding.

“The club got angry that I went there and appeared on TV. They were not angry that I went there but when it came up on TV that is when they said that the deal was off.

“I understand the club. It is unfortunate but we all know our position and we were almost there. I will stay and I had a great time here.

"There were a few difficult moments but the difficult moments cannot overshadow the happiness I have had here and the fans who have supported me.”

Odemwingie looked set to join QPR in a swap deal involving winger Junior Hoilett, but West Brom pulled out when Rangers refused to let Hoilett leave.

By then, Odemwingie was on his way to London and was interviewed on TV speaking about his move, forcing West Brom to issue a statement insisting he did not have permission to speak to the Premier League strugglers.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/02/01/peter-odemwingie-sent-home-from-training-after-qpr-row/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 01, 2013, 12:49:55 PM
Bill Bailey....


Get yourself a hair cut! ;D

Lol thats funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ive always wondered what hair cut he asks for when he enters the barbers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 12:50:07 PM
I don't believe a word this sociopath says anymore.

It's clearly all about him all the time and whatever he does he is pure as the driven snow. Your glib charm doesn't hide you anymore Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 01, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
Iam sure fans would welcome him back into the team if we were fighting it out at the bottom of the league lol.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on February 01, 2013, 12:58:07 PM
Iam sure fans would welcome him back into the team if we were fighting it out at the bottom of the league lol.
I'd rather have Steve Bull up front, that is all.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jsam on February 01, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
I've tried to be measured in making up my mind about all this - after all, no employee should be forced to stay in their job if they want to move to another employer.

BUT. Football ain't like that, and by any standard, Odemwingie has been an absolute idiot in the last three or four days. Whoever has been advising him wants shooting.

What's clear is that the man has made himself a total laughing stock in his chosen profession and among his fellow pros.

He should not, and will not, wear the sacred blue and white stripes again.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Iam sure fans would welcome him back into the team if we were fighting it out at the bottom of the league lol.

I wouldn't. To be honest I didn't mind our time in the championship and our yoyoing. It was fun to have a clear POSITIVE goal to play for (promotion) rather than the negative goal of avoiding relegation, and the greed league stinks. There are other values than playing PL football at any cost. Life goes on anyway whichever league we play in. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albionpete92 on February 01, 2013, 01:11:30 PM
Iam sure fans would welcome him back into the team if we were fighting it out at the bottom of the league lol.
I'd rather get relegated than stay up and have the club tainted by this money grabber
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 01:24:32 PM
Sick of people saying the guy has bad advisors, there's a certain amount of common sense needed from him, even if he was advised badly. There must be a point where he thinks 'this is pretty stupid, why am I doing this?'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on February 01, 2013, 01:31:48 PM
So who was actually in the car with PO when he did his interview at Loftus Road?
this struck me as strange at the time...........he seemed to be on his own,certainly he was in the drivers seat and from what i could see no sign of an entourage.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 01, 2013, 01:35:37 PM
this struck me as strange at the time...........he seemed to be on his own,certainly he was in the drivers seat and from what i could see no sign of an entourage.

There was a black guy in the front passenger seat, possibly his agent.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbastrollers on February 01, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
There was a black guy in the front passenger seat, possibly his agent.

That would be his minder - I have seen him before - goes nowhere without his minder.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
That would be his minder - I have seen him before - goes nowhere without his minder.


Does he really need one :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Statham4england on February 01, 2013, 01:58:08 PM
He might need one now
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on February 01, 2013, 02:00:29 PM
Tweet from that bastion of common sense and doyen of all things sensible


If you woke up this morning thinking 'I don't want to go to work', just think, it could be worse, you could be Peter Odemwingie.!!

          Mario Balotelli!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wba1993dave on February 01, 2013, 02:00:47 PM
Anyone still laughing ;D   He made a complete fool of himself and the whole nation is currently still laughing at him. What the hell what he thinking ?  There is no way back now. I would send him on loan to a Championship club or send him back to Russia. But after yesterdays events then I feel many clubs will be put off by the arrogant tw*t.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 01, 2013, 02:06:38 PM

Does he really need one :D

In order to not fall down wells or put his tongue in electrical outlets or set himself on fire whilst cooking, I think whatever his minder helps him with, he's not being paid enough. He can't stop him doing ALL stupid things, but the fact he's not been killed in a Bear attack means Ol' Mental Pete can thank his carer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DaveWBA on February 01, 2013, 02:19:30 PM
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,18305_8460243,00.html

For those who haven't heard this mornings outburst.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boinging_along on February 01, 2013, 02:24:39 PM
I'd rather get relegated than stay up and have the club tainted by this money grabber

That's just foolish, you'd risk the long term health of West Bromwich Albion because you don't like a certain player?  Frankly, that's insane.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on February 01, 2013, 02:28:49 PM
Well its took him all night but he's finally got in the ground! :)

(http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx80/phbaggies/BCBY5WaCAAAV_OH_zps6883cbdb.jpg)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mig on February 01, 2013, 02:36:01 PM
Let's be honest, the only real 'winners' here are QPR. Not really sure why that Bill Bailey chap has come on here to have a whinge because if I were a fan of theirs, I'd be extremely thankful that this deal hasn't gone through. I sincerely hope that they are punished for their role in this whole affair but I'm not holding my breath.

As for us, I am proud of the club for not bowing down to the disgraceful actions of Odemwingie, and I do believe that it was 100% the right thing to do as QPR never met our valuation. BUT we are stuck with a guy who many hope will never play for us again (myself included btw) and yet whose salary for the remainder of his contract adds up to roughly £3 million. On top of that who knows how damaging he may be for team morale.

My only hope now is that he manages to attract some interest from somewhere where the transfer window is still open, but who in their right mind would want him after this?

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 01, 2013, 03:01:23 PM
I have just heard his interview with Sky and it is quite clear that he has no interest in playing for this Club again. The sooner we can ship him out - to one of the overseas clubs whose transfer window is open or to a Championship club - the better. He is a total bigoted waste of space and a very bad influence on the Club. I don't envy JP trying to sort out this mess he has got us into. At the end of the day the biggest losers financially are WBA.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on February 01, 2013, 03:59:45 PM
It is clearly obvious that PO & his advisers/agent and QPR - rubber face and Fernandes tried to manipulate the situation in getting him down to Loftus Road so they would think that JP would cave in and accept their offer. Wrong if you play hardball with JP there is only one winner, take note Odemgreedy! 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 01, 2013, 04:25:43 PM
Probably the least convincing, most poorly informed account of all. Poor attempt by QPR fan (and allegedly professional journalist) to blame West Brom for the outcome of Odemwingie's antics.

Apparently if we didn't want to lose him we shouldn't have even tried to negotiate.  So having unsuccessfully unsettled one of our players we are then not even entitled to try and get a decent deal to suit West Brom if he does go. The words cake and eat it come to mind. Truly blinkered and appalling. Full of assumptions of what happened, taking Odemwingie and Redknapp's word as gospel.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/queensparkrangers/id/657?cc=5739#
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on February 01, 2013, 04:26:51 PM
Just put him on the bench for a home game so the fans can tell him how they feel. I would be disappointed if we never got the chance to.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on February 01, 2013, 04:44:01 PM
Probably the least convincing, most poorly informed account of all. Poor attempt by QPR fan (and allegedly professional journalist) to blame West Brom for the outcome of Odemwingie's antics.

Apparently if we didn't want to lose him we shouldn't have even tried to negotiate.  So having unsuccessfully unsettled one of our players we are then not even entitled to try and get a decent deal to suit West Brom if he does go. The words cake and eat it come to mind. Truly blinkered and appalling. Full of assumptions of what happened, taking Odemwingie and Redknapp's word as gospel.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/queensparkrangers/id/657?cc=5739#

Wow, that guy has done really well to produce such a pathetic article. At one point he accuses us of making the debacle too public, then pretending to be saints. Sorry mate, but no, that's Arry and Pete you need to be looking at you blinkered t***.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: harrowbaggie on February 01, 2013, 05:21:14 PM
just saw paul lamberts interview on sky,
he`s gone up in my esteem,
he reckons,  its ridiculous and " the dressing will room sort it out" !

Dare I say it , I`d rather QPR go down than Villa this year ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 05:33:25 PM
just saw paul lamberts interview on sky,
he`s gone up in my esteem,
he reckons,  its ridiculous and " the dressing will room sort it out" !

Dare I say it , I`d rather QPR go down than Villa this year ?

That cheered me up a bit tbh. If I am p'd off what about his team"mates"? Probably a smart move to give PO the week off or he'd be crippled.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on February 01, 2013, 05:52:59 PM
Most footballers are full of themselves and arrogant, it's just that some show it a little more than others. Or a lot more.

So if we as 'regular' people are upset at his attitude, how would these other professionals feel at his awful attitude towards club and fans? And in particular, themselves as team mates. He will be hated in that changing room.

I just listened to the interview on SSN, and he keeps saying things like 'i think' and 'my understanding' and it's ridiculous. If something was said, it was said. There's no 'i think' about it. We're talking about millions of pounds worth of contract here, professionals don't do 'thinking' and 'understanding' when discussing contracts, it's black and white, no messing about.

Even IF a 'gentlemans agreement' was made between Pete and Mr Ashworth that he could leave, it's not written down, so therefore doesn't mean a thing. Dan could say "we're going to pay you £300,000 a week" but if it's not written down, it means nothing. I fail to see how a 'professional' could misunderstand this.

Interviewer - Are you saying the club gave you permission to speak to QPR or not?

Pete - They didn't give me a recent permission but...

The blokes an idiot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 06:11:10 PM
I'm no legal expert but it looks to me that Odemwingie is simply angling for 'reasonable doubt' and a 'he said/she said' scenario which are notoriously difficult to prove.

It's obvious that Odemwingie is full of bs, but if the club and teammates smack him around the ears so he learns his lesson once and for all I am happy to forgive and forget and move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on February 01, 2013, 06:11:30 PM
Albion fan on TalkSport gave Jason Cundy a hammering.  Fantastic.   ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 01, 2013, 06:13:45 PM
Albion fan on TalkSport gave Jason Cundy a hammering.  Fantastic.   ;D

Whats he say ?

Cundy is another no mark who played for a big club (when they were not the big club they are now) and made a career out of it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on February 01, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
Cundy was backing Odemwingie and the Albion guy started hammering the 'proof' of Redknapp tapping him up.   Cundy was shouting over him and trying to say it was ok to tap up players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 06:19:27 PM
Steve Clarke on Odemwingie:

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/boss-hopes-theres-a-way-back-for-peter-633900.aspx

Quote
Clarke believes forward still has part to play for Albion


STEVE Clarke believes Peter Odemwingie still has a part to play for Albion and hopes there is a way back for the Nigeria international at The Hawthorns.

The Baggies boss was quizzed at length about the events leading up to the closure of the January transfer window at today’s pre-match media conference ahead of Sunday’s home clash with Tottenham (ko 1.30pm).

He was quick to stress he has always had a good relationship with the forward and hopes to find a way to reintegrate him back into the squad.

“When we decide that the time is right for Peter to come back into training, we will address that situation and he will be back in,” said Clarke.
 
“Peter wants to play football. He’s a professional footballer.

“Given the discussion I had with him this morning, I think he still has a part to play for West Bromwich Albion and I think he understands that.

“He’s under contract for the next 18 months and if he wants to play football, at this moment in time, his best chance of playing football is with West Bromwich Albion.

“The conversation Dan Ashworth, Richard Garlick and I had with him this morning was quite brief but he didn’t give us any indication the situation would escalate any further than it already has.

“To be honest, it has escalated far too far already.

“Let’s get this clear: Peter and I have always had a really good relationship.

“Although this will test that relationship a little bit, hopefully going forward we will still have that good personal relationship.

“Hopefully, there is a way back for him here.

“Everybody who is anybody has made mistakes in life. You just have to try and recover from those mistakes as best you can.

“Over the coming days and weeks, Peter can do many things.

“Maybe he has to apologise. Maybe he has to get picked first and get back into the squad.

“Maybe he has to show his team-mates he is willing to help them.

“And then, if he is selected for matches, he has to do well in the games.”
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Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on February 01, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
Albion fan on TalkSport gave Jason Cundy a hammering.  Fantastic.   ;D

Cundy is a right tool - always backing the 'big' clubs and 'big' personalities (eg Arry the Spiv) so no surprise !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on February 01, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
If it was a one off out of character then you could have some sympathy but given he's had issues elsewhere throughout his career then he gets none from me to be honest.

Bad advice, stinks of tapping up but ultimately comes down to the player.
I accept that Oldbury. There's no doubt as footballing egos go he has one right up there with the best of them. I was however very encouraged by Steve Clarkes response today. Aside from the fact that he handled a difficult situation very well he clearly understands that once you remove all the frenzy that is created by the speed and power the modern media world can bring then underneath that you are still left with a human story.
This has consistently been my own personal stance on this. Im not trying to defend POs actions clearly he has made some fundemental errors and let his club and its supporters down badly but that will always be the case and some like PO may well be prone to repeat the same errors over time (think say Gazza for example)
I think unlike the vast majority on this I am encouraged that the club despite being embarrassed by his actions are taking a sensible approach to try and find out why he feels the way he does and how or if the problems can be resolved so that he can get back to doing what he does best.....that is playing football.
I just think the medias thirst for selling copy now knows no bounds so incidents such as this get blown out of all proportion to the original error.
Me I have absolutely no problem with PO playing for WBA again but  would expect and hope that he is man enough to apologise to his teammates and in public to the club and its supporters.


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sturb74 on February 01, 2013, 08:48:45 PM
SO what do the club do now?

Let him rot in the reserves, probably not even a consideration because of the amount of money he earns I can't see JP letting this happen after all of the chest thumping JP has probably done already he won't want to be giving him a pay cheque for doing nothing, also there is the chance of it being written into contract that he doesn't play for reserves unless it is at PO's request, apparantley this is quite common place in contracts nowadays espcially for players from abroad.

Send him to train with the kids, we could find ourselves in the european court of human rights as we are not letting his carear progress as he thinks it should, this has been threatend by players in the past according to Stan Collymore (I know a lot of people don't like him but he does talk some sense)

Or use the magic word of reinteragtion into the squad, does anyone think that the rest of the squad are really that bothered he will prob be the brunt of a lot of p**s taking for the next few days he arrives in training but at the end of the day they are professionals doing a job and most won't have the same feelings as us fans.

Darren Gibson has already started on his twitter account with this little ditty " Hey, I just drove here. And this is crazy. I'm in your car park. So sign me maybe" And he isn't even a team mate

That leads to my last point if he is reintergrated what are we as fans going to do?

boo/Slag him off every time he comes anywhere near the first team or
give it to him for one game and as long as he shows that he is proffesional enough to apply his trade in the correct manor then let him get on with it?

It's a conundrum!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 01, 2013, 08:54:47 PM
In my opinion, we rise above his idiocy, give him the chance to earn his wages, i.e. do his job on the pitch, and leave the rest to the club to sort out, as supporters, we pay for players to perform on the pitch, if he does that, we applaud when he does well, its really the only way to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 01, 2013, 11:15:53 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/01/odemwingie-day-transfers

Unthinkable? Replace the transfer window with Odemwingie Day
Peter Odemwingie's drive to QPR may have been farcical, but it suggests a better transfer system than the current one

Footballer Peter Odemwingie will never be allowed to forget Thursday. Anxious to move from West Bromwich Albion to Queens Park Rangers on the last day of the transfer window, the player said farewell to his Midlands teammates, drove to west London, and attempted to seal a deal with QPR. Embarrassingly for Odemwingie, QPR would not let him through the door, as the clubs had been unable to agree terms. So it was back up the M1 for Odemwingie for a tricky reunion with the club – and the supporters – he tried to leave. It was a farcical episode. But it could be a better model for future transfer dealings than the window period.

So, in future, on a day to be known as Odemwingie Day, all players who wish to move clubs should get in their Audi R8s and their Bentleys and drive to the club they wish to join. At noon, club chairs and managers will open their doors and see who is on offer. In the time-honoured playground manner, they will make their picks and let the rest go. Everything will be transparent. Agents will be marginalised. Transfers will be based on facts, not rumours.

And if it is made a public holiday, fans can come along to eat, drink and give the hopeful the thumbs-up or thumbs-down. Market forces would ensure that players would show up only at clubs where they had a realistic chance of being taken on. They wouldn't all head straight to Chelsea or Man City. In older times, it was called a hiring fair. Odemwingie Day would be a fine way of adapting this old tradition to modern needs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 02, 2013, 06:04:47 AM
Odemwonga Day  ;D
The blokes a laughing stock.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: ian m on February 02, 2013, 06:51:08 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks it's almost a deserved flattery that Albion finally have a whiny, selfish, meteoric striker on our hands? That's the sign of a big club after all!

In all honesty I think he'll get his fair share from the media, and his teammates, and the fans on his first few appearances - When all's said and done he's a talented player and I'd like to see him playing well in blue and white againm, regardless his personal problems. Never forget 1-5 @ Molineux!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Esso #13 on February 02, 2013, 09:30:20 AM
He's a laughing stock, I'm getting so much stick for him at uni this week... But if SC thinks he can play a part then we'll have to trust him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bangkokbaggie on February 02, 2013, 10:04:27 AM
I picked up on one comment that he made of wanting to leave the club for some time. This would possibly explain why in some games fans have commented that he has looked disinterested. If true then it may be a reason why he has not always been selected for games this season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 02, 2013, 10:23:28 AM
I picked up on one comment that he made of wanting to leave the club for some time. This would possibly explain why in some games fans have commented that he has looked disinterested. If true then it may be a reason why he has not always been selected for games this season.

If true telling us on January 25th isn't good enough. If he had said on the first of January he wouldn't be here now. Couldn't have been that unhappy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Avonbaggie on February 02, 2013, 11:13:13 AM
Remember he did also talk about leaving at the start of this season but said Clarke convinced him to stay at that point

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/09/03/3352145/clarke-convinced-odemwingie-to-stay-at-west-brom-amid-summer (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/09/03/3352145/clarke-convinced-odemwingie-to-stay-at-west-brom-amid-summer)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RICH ONE on February 02, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
He has just tweeted again on how the full story will be out in the press very soon. Looks like he has sold his story to a newspaper .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 02, 2013, 11:18:13 AM
He has just tweeted again on how the full story will be out in the press very soon. Looks like he has sold his story to a newspaper .

I guess the Albion lawyers will be watching so I hope he's 100% honest otherwise he could be in for a legnthy legal battle where no-one wins except the lawyers as guaranteed the club will be happy to fight it if there are any 'different version of events' for want of a better wording.

Not doing himself, the club or the fans any favours at a time when we're not doing so well and need everyone singing from the same sheet to get the season back on track. If he wants out that bad then just pay his contract up and feck off.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on February 02, 2013, 11:22:40 AM
Albion fan on TalkSport gave Jason Cundy a hammering.  Fantastic.   ;D

It was Matt. ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 02, 2013, 12:00:41 PM
I guess the Albion lawyers will be watching so I hope he's 100% honest otherwise he could be in for a legnthy legal battle where no-one wins except the lawyers as guaranteed the club will be happy to fight it if there are any 'different version of events' for want of a better wording.

Not doing himself, the club or the fans any favours at a time when we're not doing so well and need everyone singing from the same sheet to get the season back on track. If he wants out that bad then just pay his contract up and feck off.

I very much doubt talking to a paper at this point to prove his point of view is going to do Odemwingie any good. Odemwingie will probably dig himself even deeper with his motormouth. But he just can't shut up can he. PO didn't really get the point of what Clarke told him on the press conference did he? Drop the 'I' work hard and rejoin the 'team'.

We might as well waste the £3 million on lawyers instead of on PO if he is going to keep acting up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: rubyruby on February 02, 2013, 02:54:09 PM
I guess the Albion lawyers will be watching so I hope he's 100% honest otherwise he could be in for a legnthy legal battle where no-one wins except the lawyers as guaranteed the club will be happy to fight it if there are any 'different version of events' for want of a better wording.

Not doing himself, the club or the fans any favours at a time when we're not doing so well and need everyone singing from the same sheet to get the season back on track. If he wants out that bad then just pay his contract up and feck off.

Up to this point I have maintained that this situation is recoverable for all concerned. The club have been fair with PO and have handed him an opportunity to correct his mistakes and perhaps go some way to make amends for his foolish behaviour. HOWEVER should he as looks like from todays tweets publish his story in the press at the very time he should be keeping a low profile and trying to rebuild bridges then all respect I might have for him has gone. By taking this action for me that is equivalent to sticking two fingers up to the club and more importantly the coach SC. He can try and dress this up any way he wants but he has to accept responsibility. The only thing that could save him is if he issues a full unreserved apology for his actions, but I get the feeling that isnt whats coming. Disgraceful would spring to mind if he trys to shift the blame.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on February 02, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
Odemwingie remix:

Brilliant !

http://www.wbaunofficial.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=6799

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on February 02, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
Odemwingie remix:

Brilliant !

http://www.wbaunofficial.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=6799

Quality from the boy Hughton!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on February 02, 2013, 06:11:36 PM
http://metro.co.uk/2013/02/02/west-brom-players-mock-peter-odemwingie-with-qpr-shirt-gag-3378278/

Shane long tweeted the odemwingie qpr shirt pic today

 ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stripes on February 02, 2013, 06:22:03 PM
The whole episode stank of Brown envelope(s),in my opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 02, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
The whole episode stank of Brown envelope(s),in my opinion.

QPR reeks of brown envelopes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on February 02, 2013, 06:25:31 PM
It was Matt. ;D
Brilliant , was it recorded anywhere? :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 02, 2013, 06:30:00 PM
Brilliant , was it recorded anywhere? :D

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/105196

Choose 17:00-17:30 and skip forward to about 12 minutes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on February 02, 2013, 07:38:40 PM
Well done Matt! , Cundy was rubbish anyway! :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 02, 2013, 07:42:57 PM
Is Matt Rowley? Was a very good call, then Quinny starts in on Cundy as well!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on February 02, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
 From wikipedia:

 Dissocial personality disorder.

 It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

 1.Callous unconcern for the feelings of others;
 2.Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations;
 3.Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them;
 4.Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence;
 5.Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment;
 6.Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.
 
There may be persistent irritability as an associated feature.


Our candidate scores well on 3,5 & 6
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 02, 2013, 10:22:48 PM
He also just scores well  8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bangkokbaggie on February 02, 2013, 10:50:54 PM
I am not sure whether the club wants to attempt to get him in a state of mind so that he can be re-introduced into the first team structure due to his quality and cost to the club but for me and many others and I suspect a lot of the players, he has gone too far now for that and he still doesn’t seem to want to end the confrontation with his latest Tweet of going to the press with his version of the events.

For me what the club should do from now on is to fine him the maximum 2 weeks wages as it his pretty clear that his real motivation in this recent behaviour and in the past is money and his acts of engineering a situation to get more money. Hit him where it will really hurt – in his pocket- and continue to impose 2 week fines every time he conducts himself in a way that can justify further fines until this arrogant t**t eventually shuts up and conducts himself properly. Does anyone know what the rules are for fining players and on what grounds a club can repeatedly fine a player and do the misdemeanors have to be grouped together or can the club impose a fine each time he behaves in a way that contravenes his contract obligations?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on February 03, 2013, 11:17:21 AM
Don't see why everyone is getting worked up about it. Apparently he is only a £2M rated striker.  If we had missed out on signing such a player no one would really care ;D

Let him rot >:( (he has blocked me on Twitter for questioning his motivation! )
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_liam on February 03, 2013, 08:10:19 PM
im just going to mention one player...... Carlos Tevez! both he and mcfc said they were finished with each other
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on February 03, 2013, 08:18:58 PM
Reported in the Sunday people that twitcher offered 4.7 million for greedywingie should have taken it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on February 03, 2013, 08:26:54 PM
i would have taken 4.7m for him if true
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 03, 2013, 08:33:39 PM
I think the deal fell through on Fernandez' intervention by refusing to loan Hoilett to us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on February 03, 2013, 08:41:48 PM
I think the deal fell through on Fernandez' intervention by refusing to loan Hoilett to us.
Spot on , no way was JP doing that deal when Qpr tried to pull that one!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: eddyc on February 03, 2013, 10:08:02 PM
Remember Sean Connery in the (19th Century fictional) ' Great Train Robbery'. In Court when the Judge asked him "But why, oh why did you rob the Train"? To great applause from the public gallery he replied  " I did it for the MONEY"  I just wish P.O. would give out a statement saying, "Had I moved to another Club during the Transfer window then I would have given 100% to that new Club, and probably earned a lot of money"........." BUT that transfer did not happen, and I am happy to stay at Albion, and stil give 100% to the Club, the Team and most importantly  personally for me......
THE FANS".    " I will not be giving any more interviews or quotes to the Media,  thank you".. P.O.

Lets have some sanity in West Bromwich Albions Media presentations!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 03, 2013, 11:25:09 PM
Spot on , no way was JP doing that deal when Qpr tried to pull that one!

Talking of pulling one, do you think it was reasonable that we were expecting QPR to pay all of Hoilett's wages?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on February 04, 2013, 12:30:07 AM
Reported in the Sunday people that twitcher offered 4.7 million for greedywingie should have taken it
Being a Sunday paper, it must be Gospel then. :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 04, 2013, 02:27:29 AM
I think the deal fell through on Fernandez' intervention by refusing to loan Hoilett to us.

Harry Redknapp suggested in his interview on SSN and in the newspaper the other day that it fell through as Hoilett didn't want to come here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 04, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
Harry Redknapp suggested in his interview on SSN and in the newspaper the other day that it fell through as Hoilett didn't want to come here.

Nothing in it for him really and he would have to temporarily relocate. You can understand it not holding much attraction for him, which is one reason why it wasn't a sensible idea to try to make him part of the deal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 04, 2013, 09:47:02 AM
Albion fan on TalkSport gave Jason Cundy a hammering.  Fantastic.   ;D

Would that be a very handsome and eloquent bloke called Matt?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on February 04, 2013, 02:55:31 PM
Talking of pulling one, do you think it was reasonable that we were expecting QPR to pay all of Hoilett's wages?
If they were that desperate for Odemwingie yes , they wanted the deal remember not us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on February 04, 2013, 02:56:48 PM
Would that be a very handsome and eloquent bloke called Matt?


I must admit he didnt sound as thick as the other 2 callers
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on February 04, 2013, 03:48:51 PM
Would that be a very handsome and eloquent bloke called Matt?

I heard, was that you?! If so I thought you put Cundy and his incredibly warped and contradictory views in their place! Nice when the other guy (quinny?) backed you!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on February 04, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
Pete was in training today.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 04, 2013, 03:57:39 PM
Pete was in training today.

Not many others in though  :D

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on February 04, 2013, 04:16:05 PM
Would that be a very handsome and eloquent bloke called Matt?

Didnt think you listened to TalkSport mate?  By mugs for mugs was it?   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 04, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
Would that be a very handsome and eloquent bloke called Matt?

When Cundy started mentioning Shane Long:

(https://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/sp/image/1339/76/1339767148375.jpg)

Thought you did very well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on February 04, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
Matt, have you got a clip or a link to your call? I Listen to TS about 3/4 hours a day, can't believe i missed you! HA!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on February 04, 2013, 05:03:11 PM
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/105196

Choose 17:00-17:30 and skip forward to about 12 minutes.


above poster you are like me you dont read the rest of the thread
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: collins101 on February 04, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
After reading Mulumbu's tweet earlier today it does appear PO will play for us again. Just a matter of time now
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on February 04, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
LOL fair play Matt, hope you didn't use the company phone to call TS!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on February 04, 2013, 07:35:21 PM
Fair play to you mate, enjoyed that. Jason Cundy seemed very upset with you attacking Harry Redknapp.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on February 04, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
Fair play to you mate, enjoyed that. Jason Cundy seemed very upset with you attacking Harry Redknapp.
So he should , rednapp is an upstanding member of the footballing community who plays by the rules :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on February 04, 2013, 08:36:46 PM
brilliant haha, cant stand redknapp!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 04, 2013, 09:17:32 PM

Didnt think you listened to TalkSport mate?  By mugs for mugs was it?   ;D ;D

Its like when i post on here - i get told someones talking balls and sort them out :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on February 04, 2013, 10:34:11 PM
Should we be concerned that it's been almost a week since the Loftus Road incident and the only apology Pete has issued is on behalf of Popov for spitting?

Can anyone actually see an apology coming?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Galahad on February 04, 2013, 11:30:18 PM
This brought a smile to my face! What comes round goes round et al...............

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qpr-face-troubled-times-after-1586489   ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie004 on February 04, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Should we be concerned that it's been almost a week since the Loftus Road incident and the only apology Pete has issued is on behalf of Popov for spitting?

Can anyone actually see an apology coming?

ill accept an appology in the form of goals....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbastrollers on February 04, 2013, 11:41:12 PM
This brought a smile to my face! What comes round goes round et al...............

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/qpr-face-troubled-times-after-1586489   ;D

Could a loan deal be on the cards with PO & Hoilett!?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Galahad on February 04, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
Nope, QPR already submitted their 25 man squad!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 05, 2013, 02:05:44 AM
There is no loan window for Premier league clubs, only players premier League clubs can bring in are out of contract ones.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mooncat on February 05, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
I reckon PO will be in the squad for next Monday - better to make his first game an away match where any dissent may be limited by the numbers of fans(not to say our away fans are quiet, far from it) but going away to Liverpool, where he scored last year and we'll be up against it with them coming into some form.
What better way to apologise than by scoring to get the season back on track.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on February 05, 2013, 08:18:46 PM
Is the Russian window still open? I wonder if its likely he will go there?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 05, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Is the Russian window still open? I wonder if its likely he will go there?

I've read that Albion have already put that idea to him - and he's rejected it. This is not surprising seeing what happened to him when he last played in Russia. You'd have thought he'd have learned to respect loyal fans by now. Clearly he hasn't.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 06, 2013, 10:08:49 AM
After reading Mulumbu's tweet earlier today it does appear PO will play for us again. Just a matter of time now

Well as long as we can put this saga behind us, and move on as one then I wont mind as much Pete playing for us again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on February 06, 2013, 09:20:01 PM
Well as long as we can put this saga behind us, and move on as one then I wont mind as much Pete playing for us again.
I was one of those who wanted his head on a platter,but now the dust as settled and he's willing to play for us it would give us another attacking option .Then lets see what happens in the summer
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 06, 2013, 10:34:11 PM
We do need him back and firing for us again. Whether he wants to leave in the summer is another matter for time been lets just have another ten good games out of him and few goals. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion07 on February 06, 2013, 11:09:54 PM
He's off to Crystal Palace!!!

Peter Odemwingie is in line for a move to Crystal Palace when the emergency loan window opens on Thursday- just a week after the transfer deadline fiasco that scuppered a move to QPR.
West Brom’s winger is set to make the switch until the end of the season with Palace boss Ian Holloway aiming to make his deal permanent in the summer.
Palace will have to pay an initial fee to West Brom for Odemwingie and then a further sum for his services if the south Londoners are promoted to the Premier League.

It will be a huge boost for Holloway to capture the Nigeria international as he looks to spend some of the £15m windfall from the sale of Wilfried Zaha to Manchester United.
It is a win-win situation for both Palace and West Brom following the fall-out from Odemwingie’s antics on deadline day when he travelled to QPR hoping to clinch a move despite not having permission to talk to Harry Redknapp’s side.

Odemwingie’s behaviour was roundly condemned by West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace and head coach Steve Clarke and the club’s supporters echoed that displeasure before last Sunday’s 1-0 home defeat by Spurs.
One banner reading: ‘Odemwingie out’ was held up before being removed from view by stewards.
The player himself has been in to training this week but has so far refused to apologise to Peace and the club’s board.

West Brom’s players too have been given the chance to profess their support for their colleague but their utterances in public have hardly been warm.
'We will get on with it,' said Steven Reid, 'it’s not the way I would have gone about doing things. It’s up to him.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2274620/Peter-Odemwingie-join-Crystal-Palace-loan.html#ixzz2KABhfKmS
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 06, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
Despite his recent 'I love West Brom' comment Odemwhinger's love affair with Albion is clearly dead in the water. If we can do a deal with Palace to recoup what we would have received from QPR then let's do it. Dressing room morale will surely improve once he's out of the picture.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 07, 2013, 12:05:04 AM
No chance we will let him go to Palace with no replacement after we wouldn't let him go to QPR due to that exact fact.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on February 07, 2013, 12:07:56 AM
Palace move is a solution. I doubt whether Palace will be able to cover his wages but I am sure some deal can be done. Not sure this was quite what Pete had in mind when he wanted to leave, banishment to the gulag Selhurst Park.   ;D



 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 07, 2013, 12:38:44 AM
Palace move is a solution. I doubt whether Palace will be able to cover his wages but I am sure some deal can be done. Not sure this was quite what Pete had in mind when he wanted to leave, banishment to the gulag Selhurst Park.   ;D

Palace have the Zaha money to splash...

Jacko, with a bit of good will and creativity I'm sure a deal can be hammered out. We may not get a replacement for the remaining games this season but a bit of extra money could make up for that "heart ache" (so sad).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: costa blanca baggie on February 07, 2013, 12:43:49 AM
Anyone remember me asking if our club had a suicide watch about a week ago?  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2013, 01:14:29 AM
Would he really accept going to Palace? Even if they could offer him the same wages he gets here, I imagine there would be better clubs who would surely also be willing to match the wages.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 07, 2013, 01:17:54 AM
Would he really accept going to Palace? Even if they could offer him the same wages he gets here, would he really accept that?

And what would he look like if he said no, after driving down to QPR banging on their door begging to be let in? "Ermmm... I love West Brom!" doesn't sound very convincing does it?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2013, 01:20:44 AM
Well he could just sit out on 40k a week here for 3 1/2 months, then probably get a better team who pay better wages than Palace. They don't have a rich backer as far as i'm aware, the intial 10m they got for Zaha would not stretch far for his fee and wages.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 07, 2013, 01:28:14 AM
Well he could just sit out on 40k a week here for 3 1/2 months, then probably get a better team who pay better wages than Palace. They don't have a rich backer as far as i'm aware, the intial 10m they got for Zaha would not stretch far for his fee and wages.

I think he would be in trouble if he tried to 'sit out' and just lift his wages here after saying no to a move after the stunt he pulled.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2013, 01:33:24 AM
The club couldn't do a thing if he did. As long as he turns up for training, they've got no grounds to punish him. You can't stop someone from turning down moves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on February 07, 2013, 01:36:47 AM
The club couldn't do a thing if he did. As long as he turns up for training, they've got no grounds to punish him. You can't stop someone from turning down moves.

Probably not, sadly in this case  ;D But I wonder if there is some legal wrinkle in all of this, PO made it very clear he didn't want to be here with his tweets etc.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on February 07, 2013, 05:15:19 AM
Would he really accept going to Palace? Even if they could offer him the same wages he gets here, I imagine there would be better clubs who would surely also be willing to match the wages.
;D I was thinking more Doncaster Rovers,Grimbsy Town,Halifax......Telford also in trouble scoring goals??
Sorry Pistol you were once one of my favourite players!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on February 07, 2013, 05:40:37 AM
Think this deal will ultimately hinge on Odemwingie himself. If he feels that he can get them up and guarantee himself a long deal in a permanent transfer in the summer than I'm sure he might be interested.

Think the argument that we won't let him go without a replacement is a fair one, but alternatively, of Palace offer good money we may see this as the last chance to get good value from him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2013, 06:26:59 AM
If he goes to Palace at least he'll be a little closer to 'Arry.
Dont know what to make of this, I'm a bit sceptical. After all who's manager of Palace?
Dame Ian Holloway that media whore second only to 'Arry.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on February 07, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
If we let Thomas and Pete go without bringing anybody in, Jeremy Peace will have a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BRIAN on February 07, 2013, 08:03:37 AM
On TAL:K SPORT this morning, they say he is going to Crystal Palace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 07, 2013, 08:06:08 AM
On TAL:K SPORT this morning, they say he is going to Crystal Palace.

What :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on February 07, 2013, 08:12:35 AM
No chance we will let him go to Palace with no replacement after we wouldn't let him go to QPR due to that exact fact.

Dont need a replacement for a player not playing for the club & hopefully never will again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 07, 2013, 08:12:59 AM
If we let Thomas and Pete go without bringing anybody in, Jeremy Peace will have a lot to answer for.

I would be livid if this were to happen
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on February 07, 2013, 08:19:27 AM
On TAL:K SPORT this morning, they say he is going to Crystal Palace.

Talksport is a load of poo. Holloway is their 2nd favourite after
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on February 07, 2013, 08:22:28 AM
If we let Thomas and Pete go without bringing anybody in, Jeremy Peace will have a lot to answer for.

Thomas is only still here because Blackburn screwed up on deadline day. I for one if Odemwingie's festering presence is out of the club one way or the other. Everyone knew what the consequences would be if we failed to agree a permanent deal before the window closed and here we now are.

People need to remember what kind of signal it would send out to the rest of the squad if he gets put back into the side at someone else's expense. The already low morale would plummet still further.

We needed to agree a deal last week and we failed to do so, so now we're into greatly second best options. For me, playing him again isn't one of those options.

Whether he would want to go to Palace again is another matter of course. It might be put to him like "if you want to play football again this season, find another club".
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BobTaylor on February 07, 2013, 09:24:28 AM
If we let JT go and greedemwingie will have no pace in the team whatsoever  :(.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on February 07, 2013, 09:27:55 AM
Sorry if i have missed it but i have not seen any comment from Pete to say he will not play for the club,(yes he went to far this time and i will not condone what he did). But aren't we in the same position we have been since his first season,  other parties interested and PO looking to move. The club blocks it he plays on scores goals. For me right now we need him on the pitch scoring goals and helping keep us up as if we do not pick up points soon we will be in  a relegation battle soon enough. IMO if he goes to some one like palace we might be changing leagues with them at the end of May
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: chipperclark on February 07, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
Sorry if i have missed it but i have not seen any comment from Pete to say he will not play for the club,(yes he went to far this time and i will not condone what he did). But aren't we in the same position we have been since his first season,  other parties interested and PO looking to move. The club blocks it he plays on scores goals. For me right now we need him on the pitch scoring goals and helping keep us up as if we do not pick up points soon we will be in  a relegation battle soon enough. IMO if he goes to some one like palace we might be changing leagues with them at the end of May
:oCan't see us not getting 2 wins from the rest of the fixtures
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popmonkey on February 07, 2013, 09:43:59 AM
One of his excuses for wanting to move was that he wanted stability for his new family, so I cant see how a loan move anywhere would suit his plans right now, unless it was to a club within commutable distance, for a short time in the hope that some of the flames of anger die down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 07, 2013, 10:03:20 AM
If we are willing to sanction a loan deal away from the club then I personally think it shows that either the rest of the squad have made it clear they don't want him back or the coaching staff don't want to work with him. Perhaps the whole debacle has affected the team more than we thought it had.

I just can't see any other reason why we would be willing to let him go out on loan to be honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on February 07, 2013, 10:12:53 AM
If we are willing to sanction a loan deal away from the club then I personally think it shows that either the rest of the squad have made it clear they don't want him back or the coaching staff don't want to work with him. Perhaps the whole debacle has affected the team more than we thought it had.

I just can't see any other reason why we would be willing to let him go out on loan to be honest.

Money.

A loan fee (£1m?). Bonus if they get promoted (another £1m?). Sell him permanent if they do (another £3m?) . Sell him elsewhere if they don't. Plus they pay his wages till the end of season (thick end of £1m)

Go for it JP you know you can do it!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on February 07, 2013, 10:26:49 AM
Money.

A loan fee (£1m?). Bonus if they get promoted (another £1m?). Sell him permanent if they do (another £3m?) . Sell him elsewhere if they don't. Plus they pay his wages till the end of season (thick end of £1m)

Go for it JP you know you can do it!

Sorry but those figures would be peanuts if we end up getting relegated, hes one of our best players so play him now, & deal with a transfer in the summer (more options). He's a professional footballer and needs to start acting like it and put his differences to one side like us as fans should till the end of the season
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on February 07, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
Letting one (of JT and Odemwingie) go would be daft, letting both go would simply be footballing negligence.
It would leave us with no natural wingers, no pace and would leave us with a selection of midfielders all very of the same ilk: no dynamism and all very much one paced.

The management are leaving themselves very much exposed to severe criticism here, as from now until the end of the season there will be times when we are chasing games, needing pace, needing trickery to open defences, needing someone who is ruthless in front of goal. It’s going to draw much criticism and embarrassment if the two players on our books that are capable of doing this have been loaned out to the Championship.  As a full back who would you be happier marking: Dorrans/Brunt or Thomas/Odemwingie?

If we are letting both go it will rank as one of the most pathetic decisions made at this football club in recent years, I’d like to know exactly who is behind it, as it stinks. No way will we hit 47+ points if we let both go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on February 07, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
Sorry but those figures would be peanuts if we end up getting relegated, hes one of our best players so play him now, & deal with a transfer in the summer (more options). He's a professional footballer and needs to start acting like it and put his differences to one side like us as fans should till the end of the season
Are you for real, relegated?? This season??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 07, 2013, 10:50:35 AM
Never thought this would happen, I hope he doenst go to Palace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 07, 2013, 11:13:50 AM
This is an absolute ludicrous idea as we`re not even safe from relegation yet,
could you imagine the uproar if we got rid of Odemwingie and went down ?
Jeremy Peace would get lynched.
I thought the only reason he didnt sign for QPR was due to the fact we couldnt get a replacement ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 07, 2013, 11:17:51 AM
This is an absolute ludicrous idea as we`re not even safe from relegation yet,
could you imagine the uproar if we got rid of Odemwingie and went down ?
Jeremy Peace would get lynched.
I thought the only reason he didnt sign for QPR was due to the fact we couldnt get a replacement ?

and the fact they didn't offer us what we wanted for him. We never accepted a bid from them as it didn't meet our valuation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 07, 2013, 11:22:20 AM
and the fact they didn't offer us what we wanted for him. We never accepted a bid from them as it didn't meet our valuation.


I thought we agreed a price with QPR but the Hoillet deal is what scuppered it ?


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: bartleygreen baggie on February 07, 2013, 11:24:37 AM
How can Palace afford to pay Odemwingie big bucks if he signs for them in the summer?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 07, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
Thomas is only still here because Blackburn screwed up on deadline day. I for one if Odemwingie's festering presence is out of the club one way or the other. Everyone knew what the consequences would be if we failed to agree a permanent deal before the window closed and here we now are.

People need to remember what kind of signal it would send out to the rest of the squad if he gets put back into the side at someone else's expense. The already low morale would plummet still further.

We needed to agree a deal last week and we failed to do so, so now we're into greatly second best options. For me, playing him again isn't one of those options.

Whether he would want to go to Palace again is another matter of course. It might be put to him like "if you want to play football again this season, find another club".


Fans have to remember that Lukaku isnt our player, Fortune/Thomas are out of contract in the summer,
Rosenberg is a pub player, and Dorrans also wants out , so I cant see how these players can complain
if Odemwingie is put back into the team. The rest of the squad need to realise that its all about results
and Pete is a match winner.
I know we`re 13 points off the relegation places but that could soon evaporate in this league.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on February 07, 2013, 11:37:58 AM
Thomas is only still here because Blackburn screwed up on deadline day. I for one if Odemwingie's festering presence is out of the club one way or the other. Everyone knew what the consequences would be if we failed to agree a permanent deal before the window closed and here we now are.

People need to remember what kind of signal it would send out to the rest of the squad if he gets put back into the side at someone else's expense. The already low morale would plummet still further.

We needed to agree a deal last week and we failed to do so, so now we're into greatly second best options. For me, playing him again isn't one of those options.

Whether he would want to go to Palace again is another matter of course. It might be put to him like "if you want to play football again this season, find another club".

I realise the reasons Odemwingie and Thomas are still here.

The club have acted very very poorly in terms of this January transfer window. We needed to strengthen the team, and if either (or both!) of PO or JT leave then we have weakened an already weak squad.

If Pete or JT is to leave before the summer, then we leave ourselves in a very thin squad, without adequate replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 07, 2013, 11:47:53 AM
Maybe we could do some kind of deal where we get Wilfred Zaha for the rest of the season ?
I know he`s Man Utd `s player but maybe it would help them to.  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on February 07, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
Maybe we could do some kind of deal where we get Wilfred Zaha for the rest of the season ?
I know he`s Man Utd `s player but maybe it would help them to.  ::)
Its impossible for that to happen. The loan windows only allows Championship, League 1 and League 2 clubs to loan players in. Premier League clubs can only loan out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 07, 2013, 12:24:28 PM
Its impossible for that to happen. The loan windows only allows Championship, League 1 and League 2 clubs to loan players in. Premier League clubs can only loan out.

Glad you mentioned that as I wondering if Crystal palace could act as go-betweens eg. we loan them Odemwingie and they then loan him to QPR....glad that can't happen!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on February 07, 2013, 12:52:19 PM
Everybody's getting outraged saying that we have sanctioned the deal. Evidence?

From what I can gather Albion are still working on re-integration. Good luck fellas.

Apparently PO was "offered" to Palace in a phone call.

Doesn't sound like JP or Albion's style of negotiating at all.

More like an agent trying to engineer a deal now its all gone quiet.

In the best interests, not of PO, but the agent of course!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: richjonawba on February 07, 2013, 04:23:17 PM
If they do both go you can only think it would be with the view of reverting to 4-4-2 for the rest of the season. HOOF!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on February 07, 2013, 04:33:35 PM
if we revert to 442 and `play long and lukaku we have nothing on the bench.
as stated rosenberg looks like a pub player and shows little signs of improving (i hope im wrong) i rate maf but hes not going to grab you a goal from nothing.

we are 13 points above the drop the form were on and the rate the bottom sides are picking up points this could easily be wittled away. our fixtures arent particularly kind to us to the end of the season.

dont think odemwingie will ever gain forgiveness or trust in these parts or even respect, but we could still do with another 10 points to ensure we stay up again, and he could help us do that.

the summer is a busy one i expect alot of ins and outs
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
I was just wondering! Does odemwonga even want to play for us?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on February 07, 2013, 05:10:45 PM
I was just wondering! Does odemwonga even want to play for us?
According to the local journos hes still training alone and still talking to the club but wants them to accept there share of the blame in a joint statement! Apparantly he also offered his 300k bonus to pay for Hoiletts wages! How desperate can someone be to get away??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: the rainbow turn east on February 07, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
If Odemwingie and Thomas left then we wouldnt beable to fill the bench.
Going into a relegation battle with 16 players/2 Gk`s/14 would be suicidal.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on February 07, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
I don't understand why lots of fans are suddenly saying they want him in the team and how desparate we are. Yes, we are short of players as we didn't sign anyone in the window, but what has Pete actually done to warrant this treatment?

As far as I'm aware, he still hasn't apologised and hasn't shown any signs of it. He even posted his 'best goals' on twitter the other day. Doesn't seem like someone who is sorry for causing so much division at the club and is currently training alone.

We may be able to get some loan players in, but in my opinion, the talk of bringing Pete back is ridiculous. I still hope he never plays for us again. I would rather see youth players coming in than seeing that self-centered sycophant in the stripes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on February 07, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
If Odemwingie and Thomas left then we wouldnt beable to fill the bench.
Going into a relegation battle with 16 players/2 Gk`s/14 would be suicidal.
Where on earth do you get this relegation battle from. :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BobTaylor on February 07, 2013, 06:00:01 PM
give either of them to Blackpool and get Ince here on a permanent move in the summer as part of the deal :D.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on February 07, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
Where on earth do you get this relegation battle from. :o

Make no mistake about it, another couple of defeats with clubs at the bottom picking up points and were right back in the mix.

This club seems to be forever loaning players out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on February 07, 2013, 06:47:56 PM
Where on earth do you get this relegation battle from. :o

It is possible to go down on 34 pts, it is unlikely but i cannot see were our next point is coming from
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on February 07, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
Never thought this would happen, I hope he doenst go to Palace.
i couldnt give a flying were he goes as long as its away from the albion asap.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on February 07, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
Loaning him to Palace makes perfect sense. We get the bad apple out of the club, we don't pay his wages for sitting on his backside in the reserves, he is getting game time and therefore not losing value and is in the shop window (in case some mug club forget his history)

In my opinion we are in a safe enough position to make a principled stance. We do not need to be become as mercenary as he is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on February 07, 2013, 08:41:54 PM
Being at the custard bowl when we smashed the dingles was one of the best days of my life and Odemwingie will always be a hero for his part in the massacre....That said, I never want to see him in an Albion shirt again. He made a mockery of the club I love.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on February 07, 2013, 09:06:06 PM
According to some reports we have offered odemwingie to palace on loan


http://www.palace.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=308336
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 07, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
Not sure it would be Albion who made contact to be honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 07, 2013, 10:42:11 PM
Not sure us 'offering' Odemwingie to Crystal Palace constitutes an 'emergency loan'. Is this an emergency loan window or an actual normal loan window? I thought emergency loans had to be sanctioned such as when Manchester City loaned Fulop because they had a lack of goalkeepers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on February 07, 2013, 10:49:45 PM
Not sure us 'offering' Odemwingie to Crystal Palace constitutes an 'emergency loan'. Is this an emergency loan window or an actual normal loan window? I thought emergency loans had to be sanctioned such as when Manchester City loaned Fulop because they had a lack of goalkeepers.
The 'emergency loan' in Championship terms is a bit different to a Premier League 'emergency loan'.

As you point out in the top division an emergency loan allows you, as in your example, to loan a goalkeeper in a very bad injury crisis so you aren't stuck with a kid or outfield player in goal.

In the Championship, as well as League 1 and League 2 it's an emergency loan window. This essentially allows you to top up your squad in any position due to the extra games lower league squads are faced with during a season. We have used it ourselves in the past signing Sam Sodje, Luke Moore, Ben Watson and Steven Reid on emergency loans in various seasons.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 07, 2013, 10:52:27 PM
The Mirror have a so-called update in tomorrow's paper. However, I can't see any new lines in it:

Peter Odemwingie has had peace talks with West Brom.
Striker whose 'unauthorised' trip to QPR was the story of deadline day could be shipped out - with the Russian league's transfer window still open
His advisers met with club officials following the row over his hoped-for deadline day move to Queens Park Rangers fell through.
It still seems unlikely that there will be any way back at the Baggies for Odemwingie after he drove to Loftus Road to try to force through a last-minute £5million move.
There was a difference of opinion between player and club over whether he had been given permission to head to London and he was refused entry to the Rs' offices.
The disgraced striker is at least hoping the club will allow him to leave and also harbours hopes they will consider him for the squad until he moves on.
Crystal Palace boss Ian Holloway has admitted his Championship promotion chasers have had an approach from an agent to take him to Selhurst Park on an emergency loan.
The Russian transfer window remains open so that could also allow the former Lokomotiv Moscow hitman Odemwingie an escape route.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 07, 2013, 11:01:43 PM
Though it's only the Mirror, as I suspected the contact was from an agent...  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Vassassin on February 07, 2013, 11:30:27 PM
Question: Odemwingie's futile exercise was very public and is common knowledge to all football fans. However, how many other players at our club were offered better deals elsewhere or offered to other clubs during January, with these details kept in house? As much as I detest what is happening in all sports due to vast amounts of money, (check out what has just happened here in Australia), I think the only morality left in sports comes from us the fans with the love we have for our clubs. In the dressing rooms, PO may just be one of 6 or even 8 that were hoping to move or were being put in the shop window. Can't really see any other of our players having a problem with PO as most have been in the same situation before. Maybe my ancestors knew that the olive branch was more than enough reward for sporting excellence. Really worried if my kids end up wanting to play sport at any level, as it appears to be an infested culture with money, drugs, and criminal activity rife.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on February 08, 2013, 08:47:48 AM
Odemwingie appears to have made it abundantly clear that he doesn't want to play for us again. He clearly has never heard the words 'Apology' or 'Compromise'. See Chris Lepkowski's Mail report below. I think we should let him snake off to Crystal Palace without insisting on a loan fee and even pay part of his wages if we have to. We can, hopefully, recoup our losses at the end of the season. Otherwise we are shelling out almost £40,000 a week for someone who will be kicking his heels on the training ground.

The future of Peter Odemwingie at West Bromwich Albion is no nearer to being settled after it emerged he trained alone yesterday – despite many first-team players being back in full training.
The Baggies striker has been in talks over whether he will remain at the club or granted a loan move.
There is a will on Albion’s part to call a truce, until the summer at least, but Odemwingie still has outstanding grievances over how the deadline day transfer saga with Queens Park Rangers unfolded.
His future at Albion, either way, looks increasingly bleak.
A summer departure looks inevitable, even if he remains at the club for the rest of this season.
Crystal Palace claim they were offered the chance to sign the Nigeria international, but boss Ian Holloway reckons the Eagles are unlikely to be in a position to follow up their pursuit.
Holloway said: “Someone contacted the chairman and he said would I want him? I said good gracious me, of course I would.
“But I don’t know what the situation is – apparently his wife wants to come to London.
“We’re a London club. He can’t go to another London club any higher than us. You might say I’ve alerted every other London club to getting Odemwingie.
“I don’t think that’s a realistic target for us.”
Elsewhere, Jerome Thomas remains a loan target for Blackburn Rovers
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on February 08, 2013, 02:34:15 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-peter-odemwingie-645315.aspx

Well what does CL know.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on May 17, 2013, 12:17:08 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/10062826/Hull-City-manager-Steve-Bruce-is-ready-to-make-move-for-Peter-Odemwingie.html

Hull interested in Odemwingie. There is always someone who is prepared to take a chance. £3m would be more than okay under the circumstances,
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on May 17, 2013, 06:43:46 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/10062826/Hull-City-manager-Steve-Bruce-is-ready-to-make-move-for-Peter-Odemwingie.html

Hull interested in Odemwingie. There is always someone who is prepared to take a chance. £3m would be more than okay under the circumstances,

I bet he's sat outside the clubs car park as we speak
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on May 17, 2013, 06:59:00 AM
I bet he's sat outside the clubs car park as we speak

"Steve Bruce is a brilliant coach, Hull City is a massive club, we can do really well next season with all the quality players we're signing"  ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on May 17, 2013, 07:13:55 AM
His wife'll love Hull if she wants to be in London...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2013, 07:22:53 AM
I can see him ending up at Fulham or West Ham, whatever's gone on, he's still an extremely talented player - not many players have won player of the month 3 times in the premier. 3m is still a good price, he'll still get a decent team i imagine.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 17, 2013, 07:48:47 AM
When did it start to go wrong, was it Roy's criticism of him. My only worry is will we find any better
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on May 17, 2013, 07:55:24 AM
When did it start to go wrong, was it Roy's criticism of him. My only worry is will we find any better

The club knew he had temperament issues when they signed him, but if we sell for £3million plus, we have had great value out of him so it was worth it despite the current situation. At 31, his best days are behind him anyway, I'm sure we can find decent replacements.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on May 17, 2013, 08:23:18 AM
Wouldn't sell to anyone in the Premier League.  He will strengthen a rival.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on May 17, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
Wouldn't sell to anyone in the Premier League.  He will strengthen a rival.
We dont want him (never wear the shirt again....)  but you want to dictate who buys him. Just goes to show what a loss on the pitch he has been/will be.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mateinone on May 17, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
Don't care where he goes, I just hope that if we get stuck with him, he doesn't even make the bench.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 17, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
If we get an offer of £2m plus I would sell to anyone and end this saga.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BrummieBaggie68 on May 18, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
Wouldn't sell to anyone in the Premier League.  He will strengthen a rival.

i don't know how realistic this is to do, but i think it's true.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on May 18, 2013, 05:53:41 PM
I think he will go abroad or we will use him as bait in a part exchange e.g Hoilet
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 27, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
I think he will go abroad or we will use him as bait in a part exchange e.g Hoilet

Think we sort of tried that in January. Albion added a loan for Hoilett as part of the deal for Odemwingie and Hoilett refused to come....that's why the transfer to QPR didn't happen (allegedly).

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on May 27, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
Think he will go to Palace now, PO and Holloway, that should be interesting. Perhaps they will pay 4 million plus Super Kevin to get him, Ha Ha!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on May 27, 2013, 06:24:33 PM
Think he will go to Palace now, PO and Holloway, that should be interesting. Perhaps they will pay 4 million plus Super Kevin to get him, Ha Ha!

Good shout. I can see Odemwinger ending up at the Palace.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on May 27, 2013, 07:09:10 PM
Wonga at Palace, sounds ideal!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: MHB WBA on May 28, 2013, 09:44:07 AM
Ive heard hull are intrested
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 28, 2013, 06:39:09 PM
Maybe JP will get a bidding war going between Palace and Hull.
It's fair to say that all 3 of the promoted sides are short of quality up front (counting Zaha as a Man U player).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: spencer Baggie on May 28, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
I'd look to offload him abroad. He'll score 10+ goals in the prem, I'd rather he didn't help one of our rivals along the way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 28, 2013, 09:29:16 PM
If we can get 2.5  - 3 million lets sell him, prem club or not, bring an end to the sorry business and move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on May 29, 2013, 12:28:29 AM
If we can get 2.5  - 3 million lets sell him, prem club or not, bring an end to the sorry business and move on.

I think you'll find Jeremy wants £4m

And what Jeremy wants, Jeremy usually gets  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 29, 2013, 07:16:25 AM
I think you'll find Jeremy wants £4m

And what Jeremy wants, Jeremy usually gets  ;D
When has Jeremy said that ? Given that Pete will be 32 when the season starts and his reputation has taken a very public dive since January, it would be a major coup to get £4m for him.
Just getting rid of him will save something like £1.6m in wages (if he's on about 35k). We should happily accept £2.5m - £3m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on May 29, 2013, 08:16:18 AM
When has Jeremy said that ? Given that Pete will be 32 when the season starts and his reputation has taken a very public dive since January, it would be a major coup to get £4m for him.
Just getting rid of him will save something like £1.6m in wages (if he's on about 35k). We should happily accept £2.5m - £3m.
I reckon he will go for more than that i.e over £4m just to make up for the hassle and wasted wages over the last 4 months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 29, 2013, 08:27:12 AM
Looking forward to this saga being put to bed. No doubt he'll have a few things to say to the press once he's left.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 29, 2013, 09:01:32 AM
When has Jeremy said that ? Given that Pete will be 32 when the season starts and his reputation has taken a very public dive since January, it would be a major coup to get £4m for him.
Just getting rid of him will save something like £1.6m in wages (if he's on about 35k). We should happily accept £2.5m - £3m.
Technically it wasn't JP, but Clarke. He mentioned that West Brom would refuse to sell Pete for cheap and would continue to expect the price they wanted in January. Which was around £4m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on May 29, 2013, 09:03:37 AM
Looking forward to this saga being put to bed. No doubt he'll have a few things to say to the press once he's left.
I wont be surprised if he isn'yt subject of a gagging order either by his new club or us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 29, 2013, 10:35:38 AM
I guess if you say £4m then clubs will maybe come in with bids of £2.5 or £3m and we end up accepting 3 - 3.5m.
Last thing we want is to put clubs off with the asking price and then be stuck with him for another year which would  include paying him another £1.6m plus in wages.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on May 29, 2013, 11:30:49 AM
4mill is a bargain for the goals he's shown he can score. I would expect lots of offers actually as he's proven in the prem and all you can ask is that. the other side of Pete will hardly come into it ( although I can't wait to get rid) it may not be on the moral high ground but to stay up you need goals end of.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 29, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
4mill is a bargain for the goals he's shown he can score. I would expect lots of offers actually as he's proven in the prem and all you can ask is that. the other side of Pete will hardly come into it ( although I can't wait to get rid) it may not be on the moral high ground but to stay up you need goals end of.
can't agree that it will hardly come into it. If he was a model pro we'd have 6 - 8 prem teams and the better off champ teams banging the door down. Due to his antics we may have 2 or 3 interested but the price suffers accordingly. e.g. Cardiff - Malky Mackay puts a lot of emphasis on hard work and dressing room spirit - they really need a goal scorer but they won't go near Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on May 30, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
can't agree that it will hardly come into it. If he was a model pro we'd have 6 - 8 prem teams and the better off champ teams banging the door down. Due to his antics we may have 2 or 3 interested but the price suffers accordingly. e.g. Cardiff - Malky Mackay puts a lot of emphasis on hard work and dressing room spirit - they really need a goal scorer but they won't go near Pete.

For sure, but the thing is its very hard to get a decent striker especially in the bottom half of table and even more so when making the transition from champ to prem. despite what the heart might say I really do think without many other options he's worth the gamble. Before he came here the Russians were sayin the same. He'll be a hero for the season and fall apart again no doubt.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on May 30, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
For sure, but the thing is its very hard to get a decent striker especially in the bottom half of table and even more so when making the transition from champ to prem. despite what the heart might say I really do think without many other options he's worth the gamble. Before he came here the Russians were sayin the same. He'll be a hero for the season and fall apart again no doubt.
Agree he would like the attention at a new club and would be likely to have a good 1st season and score important goals which could keep a side up for the all important 1st season. As for the fee, I think we should definitely accept £3m and get him off the wage bill and move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Semaj Riatsila on May 31, 2013, 11:55:20 PM
Every time I hear this advert it make me laugh and think of Pete. He should use it to advertise his services :)

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=yxdbu8b4ITk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dyxdbu8b4ITk

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on June 03, 2013, 09:13:43 AM
hull or crystal palace if hes going anywhere both need goalscorers (palace zaha back to united and that miller has a cruciate knee ligament which keeps him out to new year).

we should try and offer him up as part of that bony or mbokani (however its spelt) deals. get him out the door, save ourselves money without selling him to a rival...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: FallOutBoy on June 03, 2013, 01:03:48 PM
I wouldn't sell him to another Premier League team, no matter how much they offered.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on June 03, 2013, 01:13:56 PM
We will have to sell him to someone that Pete is willing to sign for - if he doesn't want to go he's still under contract and doesn't have to go. So we either pay up the rest of the contract or we have the pleasure of his company for a further year.

Whats best pay him £1.6m to release him from the contract or receive say £3.5m from Palace or wherever ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on June 03, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
cant wait to see sold to !!!!!!!!!!!!! topic locked  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on June 03, 2013, 05:50:56 PM
cant wait to see sold to !!!!!!!!!!!!! topic locked  ;)


Here Here.Sick and tired of this
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on June 05, 2013, 02:59:01 PM
Why can I see him at West Ham...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 08, 2013, 08:00:40 AM
Just read in the Birmingham Mail (on twitter so I can't link to it) that proposed talks between Pete and the club have been postponed as a PFA rep couldn't attend. Why would a PFA rep be needed? The only reason I can think of is to terminate his contract. I hope this is not right as even as damaged goods we should be able to get a wedge of cash for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on June 08, 2013, 08:22:01 AM
Maybe to cover the legal side of things,stop him spouting off etc once he has left??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 08, 2013, 10:27:44 AM
Just read in the Birmingham Mail (on twitter so I can't link to it) that proposed talks between Pete and the club have been postponed as a PFA rep couldn't attend. Why would a PFA rep be needed? The only reason I can think of is to terminate his contract. I hope this is not right as even as damaged goods we should be able to get a wedge of cash for him.

PFA have been involved for a while. Peter didn't like how much he was being fined and how he was being treated by the club but the club believed they were well within their rights to do what they have. It certainly wont be to terminate his contract, club will still be able to get a couple of million for him despite how he's behaved.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tellinstories on June 09, 2013, 12:41:21 AM
PFA are the players' trade union so, like all of us, he has a right to have them there at any meeting with his employers - in this case the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 09, 2013, 08:32:21 AM
PFA are the players' trade union so, like all of us, he has a right to have them there at any meeting with his employers - in this case the club.

They being in the meeting is a good thing for both sides in that way nobody can say this or that was said for either side to miss understand.   :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on June 10, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
this topic should just be locked.... im so bored of this circus.

he doesnt want to be here, we dont want him here. let jeremy fix it

hes scored very important goals in all 3 seasons, and will be hard to replace on the pitch, especially as lukaku who we relied on isnt our player.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tjmill on June 10, 2013, 11:41:09 AM
I heard he's off to QPR so not long now before we are rid. He's been disruptive since Jan window saga. Good riddance imo.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on June 10, 2013, 12:28:21 PM
I heard he's off to QPR so not long now before we are rid. He's been disruptive since Jan window saga. Good riddance imo.
Where you hear that?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on June 10, 2013, 01:12:47 PM
Providing he doesn't go any more crazy, he would tear that league apart.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Norfolk Baggie on June 10, 2013, 01:48:11 PM
If QPR part company with 'Arry I cannot see them splashing cash on Odem, though at £2m it would be a great purchase for anybody- wages might be a problem though?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on June 10, 2013, 02:02:37 PM
I went to put £50 on it at 10-1 with Skybet, would only let me put £37.50 on it, still a nice £400+ if it comes in! Odds went straight down from 10's to 6's as soon as I placed bet so it doesnt take much to move market!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on June 10, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
The fact that this saga is still dragging on is akin to the Chinese Water Torture.....  :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on June 10, 2013, 06:11:35 PM
If he does go to QPR I wonder how he'll handle the slog that is the Championship.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on June 10, 2013, 06:56:49 PM
He certainly wont be getting anymore than he is here if he goes to QPR now
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jasonbot on June 10, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
Is he gone yet?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on June 11, 2013, 08:12:58 AM

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PETER Odemwingie has emerged as a new target for Michael Laudrup as he bids to bolster Swansea City's frontline.
Laudrup reckons added firepower will be key if Swansea are to have any chance of progressing next season.
And the South Wales Evening Post understands West Brom frontman Odemwingie is one of the names on the Dane's radar.
The Nigerian international is expected to leave the Hawthorns this summer after he fell out with the Baggies last season.
Odemwingie, who will be 32 next month, could be available for around £3 million.
He has previously been valued at £5 million, but the price is dropping as he has only one year left on his contract.
Premier League new boys Hull City and Crystal Palace — who attempted to get Odemwingie on loan last term — have both been linked with the former Lokomotiv Moscow player in recent weeks.
Queens Park Rangers tried to sign Odemwingie during the January transfer window — but the move collapsed in spectacular fashion.
Odemwingie arrived at Loftus Road on deadline day and was interviewed on television before about his imminent switch to London, only for West Brom to reveal that no transfer fee had been agreed.
Odemwingie, Albion's all-time leading scorer in the Premier League, claimed they had priced him out of a move, and he has since criticised the club more than once via his Twitter page.
He is due to hold talks imminently about his future with the West Brom hierarchy — and he is then thought likely to say his farewells. Laudrup has already missed out on a number of targets, with Iago Aspas set to join Liverpool, Leo Baptistao on his way to Atletico Madrid and Romelu Lukaku expected to stay at Chelsea next season rather than leave on loan.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on June 11, 2013, 08:13:58 AM
Might be off to Swansea then, not the bright lightes of the big smoke is it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on June 11, 2013, 08:18:34 AM
I understand the newly promoted clubs interest but Swansea must be mad to even think about taking him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on June 11, 2013, 08:31:07 AM
I understand the newly promoted clubs interest but Swansea must be mad to even think about taking him.

Don't publicly make comments like that - we'll never get rid of him ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on June 11, 2013, 10:15:17 AM
I understand the newly promoted clubs interest but Swansea must be mad to even think about taking him.

They have previous here....Beattie, Luke Moore... ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 11, 2013, 10:46:02 AM
They have previous here....Beattie, Luke Moore... ;)

Both of whom have scored past us I think? Even though they have ratios in the 1 in 8 region?

Would happily allow Pete a goal for them past us if it got him off our books and £2mill+ in the bank.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 11, 2013, 01:03:21 PM
Both of whom have scored past us I think? Even though they have ratios in the 1 in 8 region?

Would happily allow Pete a goal for them past us if it got him off our books and £2mill+ in the bank.
That is one of my biggest fears for next season - imagine that $€#£ running past the brummy with his hand to his ear?! No thanks!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 11, 2013, 01:14:05 PM
That is one of my biggest fears for next season - imagine that $€#£ running past the brummy with his hand to his ear?! No thanks!

It's worth £4-5mill (inc what we save on wages).... Let him have his moment. He's not very bright and far too reactionary, but his goals were vital to us before.

I won't have him as the lowest of the low in years to come, but he could have been a very fond memeory and a fans' favourite. He's ruined that now. Be proffesional and get rid of him as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 11, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
If this clown ever has a autobiography of his footballing life it should be called
How to go from Hero to Villain in one easy step
by Peter Odemwingie

Sell him to the highest bidder JP I'm not bothered which league they happen to be in. F him Off
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on June 11, 2013, 06:57:06 PM
I understand the newly promoted clubs interest but Swansea must be mad to even think about taking him.
I guess they view a good value signing and are prepared to take a chance. Pete would probably toe the line for someone like Laudrup (assuming he stays) at least for 12 - 18 months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on June 12, 2013, 08:29:27 AM
Wales Online is today reporting that it is "highly unlikely" that Swansea will bid for Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: howi1068 on June 13, 2013, 09:14:38 AM
As far as I am aware the agent of Swansea manager Laudrup has been trying to negotiate deals without the consent of the club. If this link has come from anywhere I think it may have come from him. The swansea chairman is now refusing to do any business with Laudrups agent which I imagine will make this deal a non starter.

Laudrup is likely to leave the club rather than his agent who he has been with his whole career. I would prefer PO to go to a different league rather than to one of  our rivals.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on June 13, 2013, 09:25:34 AM
Pete would probably toe the line for someone like Laudrup (assuming he stays) at least for 12 - 18 months.

No way in the world.............

it will matter not one bit who he ends up signing with, he will be trying to engineer a move "to a bigger club" by Christmas....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Trigger on June 13, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
Was on the train down to London this morning with his wife baby and agent. Going be holding talks with west ham over the weekend. You heard it here first!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 13, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
Was on the train down to London this morning with his wife baby and agent. Going be holding talks with west ham over the weekend. You heard it here first!

He's the perfect West Ham player. A total &*£%"$$$!!!

He'll probably do well for them. But I really want him gone, so the sooner the better really.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on June 13, 2013, 09:44:57 PM
Odemwingie has been in London these last few days, doing some bizarre promotional work with Ronnie O'Sullivan of all people. Seen pictures of people who met him at Euston station yesterday on Twitter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on June 13, 2013, 10:26:17 PM
Was on the train down to London this morning with his wife baby and agent. Going be holding talks with west ham over the weekend. You heard it here first!

Hope so. Need to get this thread closed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on June 13, 2013, 10:37:42 PM
I live nearish to the West Ham stadium so will keep a lookout ;D

I'm sure he's ready to play for the world class Sam Allardyce, alongside the world cup winners.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on June 14, 2013, 06:23:22 AM
Odemwingie has been in London these last few days, doing some bizarre promotional work with Ronnie O'Sullivan of all people. Seen pictures of people who met him at Euston station yesterday on Twitter.

I bet they've both got the same shrink!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 14, 2013, 02:14:03 PM

Peter Odemwingie ‘transfer’ just a pawn in Swansea power struggle

http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/14/peter-odemwingie-transfer-just-a-pawn-in-swansea-power-struggle-3841317/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on June 15, 2013, 06:42:49 AM
Odemwingie only pawn... in game of life.     ::)


sorry the should say Mongo ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on June 15, 2013, 10:55:08 AM
Odemwingie only pawn... in game of life.     ::)


sorry the should say Mongo ;)

Hehehe, Blazing Saddles rules :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on June 17, 2013, 11:53:49 AM
Just to put to bed any suggestion of talks with anyone in London over last weekend that had popped up last week. Pete was in London at the end of the week for some promotional work with Ronnie O'Sullivan but certainly didn't stay over the weekend as he was in Ireland at Shane Long's wedding.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on June 18, 2013, 06:54:25 AM
Just to put to bed any suggestion of talks with anyone in London over last weekend that had popped up last week. Pete was in London at the end of the week for some promotional work with Ronnie O'Sullivan but certainly didn't stay over the weekend as he was in Ireland at Shane Long's wedding.

Looks like it was Thomas not Odemwingie that Palace are/were after





Palace sign Thomas after winger's release from West Brom where 'delighted' Reid extends contract

Crystal Palace are giving winger Jerome Thomas a deal just weeks after he was released by West Bromwich Albion.
The 31-year-old is willing to sign up within Palace’s wage constraints to remain in the top flight, where he will work with Ian Holloway.
The former Arsenal man was one of several let go by Steve Clarke at the end of his first season at the Hawthorns.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2343481/Crystal-Palace-sign-Jerome-Thomas-release-West-Bromwich-Albion.html#ixzz2WXox7zVc
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 18, 2013, 07:15:05 AM
Fair play to him. Glad he's sorted himself out a contract quickly.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Statham4england on June 20, 2013, 09:30:05 PM
Pete - go ASAP and then in about 6 months time realise what a waster you have been.....on the bench at Palace, Hull etc....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on June 22, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
Was watching the DVD last night and for all his faults, of which there are many, he was still, Lukaku aside, only player who seemed capable of attacking the opposition and looking dangerous.

I really wish he hadn't lost the plot in January as there is no doubt we would have been more of an attacking force with him in the team.

Yes, he should go as there is no way back with both the team and the fans BUT he will be a massive miss.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on June 22, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
Was watching the DVD last night and for all his faults, of which there are many, he was still, Lukaku aside, only player who seemed capable of attacking the opposition and looking dangerous.

I really wish he hadn't lost the plot in January as there is no doubt we would have been more of an attacking force with him in the team.

Yes, he should go as there is no way back with both the team and the fans BUT he will be a massive miss. 

Agree with you wished both sides,club,player and also fans could put everything behind us ,start singing from the same hymn sheet , quality will be a big miss
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 22, 2013, 11:45:25 AM
Agree with you wished both sides,club,player and also fans could put everything behind us ,start singing from the same hymn sheet , quality will be a big miss

Impossible to put it behind us, far too much water under the bridge for everyone involved. He is a massive loss to us but I don't think anyone has ever denied that, the challenge is to replace him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 22, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
Impossible to put it behind us, far too much water under the bridge for everyone involved. He is a massive loss to us but I don't think anyone has ever denied that, the challenge is to replace him.

Spot on B_H_Baggie, I personally believe if QPR had not approach us & him we could have finished in the top 6 But they did & has they say the rest is history.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: superkev on June 24, 2013, 11:03:26 AM
Well I would keep him if he just came out and apologised, we all make mistakes cant we give him another chance?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on June 24, 2013, 11:07:00 AM
Well I would keep him if he just came out and apologised, we all make mistakes cant we give him another chance?


I agree, some of the replacement names mentioned dont inspire do they
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on June 24, 2013, 11:16:54 AM
I dont think anybody can deny he is a quality player and he has done loads to help us become an established premiership club.

That said i think too much has happened, and i only hope he goes now whilst its the off season and he could move on pretty low key, otherwise once players report back for preseason we run the risk of the circus starting again, i just hope he goes now rather than it drag on and on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on June 24, 2013, 11:22:06 AM
Well I would keep him if he just came out and apologised, we all make mistakes cant we give him another chance?

It’s a bit late for that now Mrs Odemwingie.

I detect a cry for help..............Is a move to Hull on the horizon?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 25, 2013, 02:30:08 PM
Looks like JP is playing hard ball  ;)

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130625/west-brom-will-keep-peter-odemwingie-unless-asking-price-met-claims-chai-2003
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on June 25, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Looks like JP is playing hard ball  ;)

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130625/west-brom-will-keep-peter-odemwingie-unless-asking-price-met-claims-chai-2003

He is just firing a shot across the bows of would be bidders so they understand we will not rollover but ultimately he knows he has to sell. I hope it does not drag on until the season starts we need to bring an end to the whole sorry circus.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on June 25, 2013, 03:15:24 PM
Looks like JP is playing hard ball  ;)

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/130625/west-brom-will-keep-peter-odemwingie-unless-asking-price-met-claims-chai-2003


1.   When does he ever not?

2.   I heard someone had bid £1.8M obviously testing the water and this is JP's way of saying he's having none of it.

We wouldn't be in the strongest position negotiation wise but there are several interested parties and we know from our own history how desperate promoted clubs need to be to get a Prem class goalscorer in.

I think he'll get £3M or possibly more. After all who wants to go to Hull?

3.   I have a funny feeling Twitter might get active soon!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JDWest_Brom on June 25, 2013, 03:22:03 PM

After all who wants to go to Hull?


Curtis Davies apparently.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tambag on June 25, 2013, 04:25:28 PM

1.   When does he ever not?

2.   I heard someone had bid £1.8M obviously testing the water and this is JP's way of saying he's having none of it.

We wouldn't be in the strongest position negotiation wise but there are several interested parties and we know from our own history how desperate promoted clubs need to be to get a Prem class goalscorer in.

I think he'll get £3M or possibly more. After all who wants to go to Hull?

3.   I have a funny feeling Twitter might get active soon!!

I'm not quite sure how Mr Peace works sometimes.  He wouldn't spend £1.8M on a striker/wide player who is 30 years of age with only 12 months left on his contract - he would expect to pay 500K max but he can sell one for 3M !
You have got to love Mr Peace !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 25, 2013, 04:41:36 PM
He is just firing a shot across the bows of would be bidders so they understand we will not rollover but ultimately he knows he has to sell. I hope it does not drag on until the season starts we need to bring an end to the whole sorry circus.

For the sake of moral within the squad I hope so to. Has we saw last season a good start takes a lot of pressure off the last 2 months of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on June 25, 2013, 05:25:51 PM
I'm not quite sure how Mr Peace works sometimes.  He wouldn't spend £1.8M on a striker/wide player who is 30 years of age with only 12 months left on his contract - he would expect to pay 500K max but he can sell one for 3M !
You have got to love Mr Peace !

That is the nature of the beast most transfers are rotten value for money and judged on any rational basis the fees for all players should be a lot lower. However while there are still irrational players in the market one of the few rational ones will continue to exploit the fact. As I said before anyone who pays more than £2m for Odemwingie is completely bonkers.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: glosterbaggie on June 25, 2013, 06:12:41 PM
That is the nature of the beast most transfers are rotten value for money and judged on any rational basis the fees for all players should be a lot lower. However while there are still irrational players in the market one of the few rational ones will continue to exploit the fact. As I said before anyone who pays more than £2m for Odemwingie is completely bonkers.
I am betting he will get nearer 3mil.
The teams coming up will be desperate for a proven striker.
He has also inebriated him off so will not get an easy out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on June 25, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Jeez, talk about something festering excessively. Just sell him now - £1.5m thank you very much and good riddance.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on June 25, 2013, 06:52:31 PM
Jeez, talk about something festering excessively. Just sell him now - £1.5m thank you very much and good riddance.
Totally agree - why risk paying him a further £2m wages this year ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Noty Bromway on June 25, 2013, 08:52:04 PM
Totally agree - why risk paying him a further £2m wages this year ?

Yep 1.8mil fee plus 2 mil wages so nearly 4mil to spend on players coming in...(I'd bite clubs hands off)
However this is jp and this is the one department I have never doubted him on MAKING MONEY... Curtis,kamara,greening I could list and list...he gets the fees he wants...and the clubs (cough..his) bank balance is always healthier for it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on June 25, 2013, 09:31:44 PM
I'm backing JP here. If we were going to let him go cut-price, he could have gone to QPR. His commodity is goals which are like golddust in the Prem. We need to get his full market value, as the extra 1-2 million should help fund more or better replacements.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: valleybaggie on June 25, 2013, 09:54:19 PM
the only problem is he's deadwood and dosen't want to be here anymore. you couldn't trust him to put the effort in for the albion if he really had to . also he's a drain on the wage bill and has jp has stated he wants to run with a limit on the playing staff and odemwinge's taking up a place of a player who could give something to the first team. the worst scenario is he won't go and will pick up a years wages then leave for nowt.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on June 25, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-bromwich-albion-interview-peter-4706656

This whole saga played an important part in successfully derailing our season to the point where Peter Odemwingie has burned all bridges with the supporters and during this period put Steve Clarke in a very awkward position of managing Odemwingie, the wishes of the dressing room and the wishes of the fans who would rather see him elsewhere. This affair has gone on for six months now and needs to be resolved soonish so both Odemwingie and West Bromwich Albion can move on. Equally, the sooner he is removed from the playing squad, the quicker we can sort out his replacement rather than having to wait a few weeks for that to be eventually sorted but I would hope that the club have already planned his replacement expecting his departure to be imminent - it's just now finding a buyer.

Nothing would anger me more than us going into the new season with Odemwingie and the supporters still carrying the hangover of the season before it - for that reason, he needs to be sold and the club might just have to accept a relatively cut down price for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on June 25, 2013, 11:16:49 PM
Regardless of fees we're asking etc, I still expect him to be gone by the deadline at the end of the window, he may be here for pre-season but won't be here September 3rd. He claims he was prepared to sacrifice £1m in January so no doubt he will be happy to reach agreement over the remainder of his contract if it means a deal is done with another club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on June 25, 2013, 11:25:14 PM
His desirability to other clubs in 12 months time if he stays with us could be very small.

Who will want to pay top wages to a 33 year old who hasn't played serious competitive football for 18 months?

So it's very much in his interest to facilitate a move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on June 25, 2013, 11:56:51 PM
I suspect (and very much hope) that these words from Peace are just posturing.

I agree that we should try to get the most we can for PO, but it would be a big mistake to keep him on until January, we need to put this saga aside and start afresh for next season.

Peace is notorious for playing hardball, but Pete needs to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 26, 2013, 12:25:29 AM
We won't sell if the money isn't right and more importantly a replacement isn't tied up. Moreover, I see Odemwingie has remained a popular member of the squad unless of course he was photobombing Shane Long's wedding, so perhaps there is a sliver of hope for reconciliation...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: timdon on June 26, 2013, 02:27:53 PM
We won't sell if the money isn't right and more importantly a replacement isn't tied up. Moreover, I see Odemwingie has remained a popular member of the squad unless of course he was photobombing Shane Long's wedding, so perhaps there is a sliver of hope for reconciliation...
Nope, not even a sliver of hope so stop your hoping now. I would be willing to bet that he will be sold for an undisclosed fee, so that all concerned can retain their dignity.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on June 26, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
He will be sold and somebody will pay over 3 million for him because his track record and ability is very good. No point letting him go on the cheap as that will set a precedent and is a sign of weakness. JP would rather him rot in the reserves and pay his wages if it sends out a statement of intent that we will not be manipulated into giving away our assets and in my opinion, this is exactly the right course of action. JP is not going to become charitable all of a sudden is he? He is as shrewd as they come.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 26, 2013, 06:14:22 PM
He will be sold and somebody will pay over 3 million for him because his track record and ability is very good. No point letting him go on the cheap as that will set a precedent and is a sign of weakness. JP would rather him rot in the reserves and pay his wages if it sends out a statement of intent that we will not be manipulated into giving away our assets and in my opinion, this is exactly the right course of action. JP is not going to become charitable all of a sudden is he? He is as shrewd as they come.

We've already done that in January. Now it's time to be pragmatic. Try to get as much as possible but as it gets closer to September just get what we can.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on June 26, 2013, 07:28:31 PM
I have a funny feeling we have not seen the last of him in the blue and white stripes!

No bids and a humble pie interview and he will be back in the team August IMO!

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on June 26, 2013, 07:48:16 PM
I have a funny feeling we have not seen the last of him in the blue and white stripes!

No bids and a humble pie interview and he will be back in the team August IMO!
not a cat in hells chance!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: petethebaggie on June 26, 2013, 08:00:28 PM
He will be sold and somebody will pay over 3 million for him because his track record and ability is very good. No point letting him go on the cheap as that will set a precedent and is a sign of weakness. JP would rather him rot in the reserves and pay his wages if it sends out a statement of intent that we will not be manipulated into giving away our assets and in my opinion, this is exactly the right course of action. JP is not going to become charitable all of a sudden is he? He is as shrewd as they come.

Spot on someone will pay the money 3m plus. It will go to the wire. Jeremy has made the statement because he knows what he is worth in the market. Hold on max the return and spend wisely.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 26, 2013, 09:27:23 PM
I have a funny feeling we have not seen the last of him in the blue and white stripes!

No bids and a humble pie interview and he will be back in the team August IMO!
I have also said this, I think it's 50/50 at the mo, the club would like to sell but don't have too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on June 26, 2013, 10:34:56 PM
There's been no sign of humble pie in the 5 months since Jan. It's just as likely we'll be lumbered with him in the same mood for a while longer. Someone will try their luck before the deadline and we should offload and save the £2m wages.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mister AT on June 27, 2013, 09:49:24 AM
Will be interesting to see how he is used if hes still here come pre season friendlies.

Will he be played, or will he get the odd 15 minutes here and there.

Think he will be sold in last couple of weeks of the window, to a promoted team who will pay around 2.5mill (potentially rising on goals, staying up etc).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on June 27, 2013, 10:16:18 AM
There is no doubt that he will be gone, but it would be stupid to sell him now if we can generate more cash for him in a few weeks, which we most certainly will.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on June 27, 2013, 10:25:04 AM
After our early promotions we had to play huffers and puffers like Hughes, Horsefield, Dichio and Dobie. And then a seriously ageing Campbell.

Predictably we went down.

What would we have done for a striker with 30 goals in 80 Prem games - even if he did come with "attitude"

Hull are now looking at Marlon King - now that's attitude!

PO is a classy and effective striker/winger. We'll find a buyer for the right price.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 27, 2013, 10:28:23 AM
i understand why so many have got ill feeling towards him , ask yourself this (honestly)
Name one player you associate with west broms succesful stint in the prem?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on June 27, 2013, 10:29:54 AM
Keep him i say.We wont replace him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on June 27, 2013, 10:37:53 AM
Watched the season review DVD last night. No wonder we struggled after January! Pete and Gera were involved in so much of our good attacking work post Jan. It's a wonder we managed to score a goal at all after we lost both from our side!

Such a shame that we will have to lose him because, as one of the earlier posts says, who has played a bigger part in our sustained PL success for the last three years? We will struggle to replace what a fully firing Odemwingie can offer us. I personally could take him back into the team, but I understand why some couldn't.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 27, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
i understand why so many have got ill feeling towards him , ask yourself this (honestly)
Name one player you associate with west broms succesful stint in the prem?

Ask yourself who was the one that actually burnt their bridges with the club and fans?

No one has ever denied how important a player he was for us but all of this situation is of his own making and there is no way back because he continued to play his face on twitter undermining his manager.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on June 27, 2013, 11:23:06 AM
i understand why so many have got ill feeling towards him , ask yourself this (honestly)
Name one player you associate with west broms succesful stint in the prem?
I can name you 2 before Pete (honestly) - Mulumbu and Olsson

Pete done well in his first season but since then he has scored just 15 goals in 2 seasons, hardly prolific and I am fully aware he played less for the second half of this season,  but whos fault was that??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Smooth Lad on June 27, 2013, 11:27:17 AM
Some folk on here are dragging it all on a bit too much now, for me.

You're not down the local now lads, you can't react the same was you would if somebody 'mugged you off infront of your mates'.

"Nobody slags off my beloved west brom"...."Except me when we're losing or i'm drunk".

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on June 27, 2013, 11:37:26 AM
i understand why so many have got ill feeling towards him , ask yourself this (honestly)
Name one player you associate with west broms succesful stint in the prem?

You can't just name one player though, its a squad game and all have played a big part. To try and single one player out would be an insult to the ones you leave out. Lukaku, McAuley, Olsson, Brunt, Morrison, Foster, Long etc etc etc
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on June 27, 2013, 12:33:16 PM
A deal will be done and we will be shot of him. The worst possible outcome is for us to be lumbered with him next year. Even if the majority of fans call a truce (which I somehow doubt would happen) he is only one poor performance or twitter outburst for the whole sour atmosphere to return and Clarke hardly being able to play him for fear of his own fans reaction. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on June 27, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
A deal will be done and we will be shot of him. The worst possible outcome is for us to be lumbered with him next year. Even if the majority of fans call a truce (which I somehow doubt would happen) he is only one poor performance or twitter outburst for the whole sour atmosphere to return and Clarke hardly being able to play him for fear of his own fans reaction.
Agreed - he simply has to go, even if it means we have to take less money than we would ideally hold out for.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on June 27, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
You know what IF I supported another club & we were link to him I'd post
" he's worth a punt he knows were the back of the net is that's for sure"
But I don't so lets get rid asp.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 27, 2013, 07:26:06 PM
Ask yourself who was the one that actually burnt their bridges with the club and fans?

No one has ever denied how important a player he was for us but all of this situation is of his own making and there is no way back because he continued to play his face on twitter undermining his manager.
however its been said on many occasions there are 2 sides, when you watch the footage of him leaving our training ground in his range talking to the man in the suit , does thislook like a man that has been told point blank that he cant go?
I cant argue your point because neither of us actually know what actually happened only the sensational bits that were on tv?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 27, 2013, 07:30:23 PM
You can't just name one player though, its a squad game and all have played a big part. To try and single one player out would be an insult to the ones you leave out. Lukaku, McAuley, Olsson, Brunt, Morrison, Foster, Long etc etc etc
unless you asked real madrid, barca, swansea , the vile etc etc , all clubs usually have a talismann , like it or not ours was the nigerian russian that hit the ground running , produced more often than not and got "those" goals against the dingles, I really can understand some of the bad feeling but we are a better squad with him and no other player (recent years) has had the same impact...(waits for shouts of lukaku )....then comes back with over more than one season  :D
Hi Phil  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on June 27, 2013, 08:53:48 PM
unless you asked real madrid, barca, swansea , the vile etc etc , all clubs usually have a talismann , like it or not ours was the nigerian russian that hit the ground running , produced more often than not and got "those" goals against the dingles, I really can understand some of the bad feeling but we are a better squad with him and no other player (recent years) has had the same impact...(waits for shouts of lukaku )....then comes back with over more than one season  :D
Hi Phil  ;D

 :D Hi Si

Won't knock his record as I can't but I think others have had an impact on our survival just as much. Goalscorers get the plaudits.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on June 27, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
You know what IF I supported another club & we were link to him I'd post
" he's worth a punt he knows were the back of the net is that's for sure"
But I don't so lets get rid asp.
Palace, for example, should be thinking "he might just keep us up for 3 mill, get him on a 2 year contract".

TBH they might be right.  And a Holloway/Odem spat to look forward to if it goes sour.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on June 27, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
I just want the club to get the market value for him. We are not a rich club, the budget is finely tuned and he is a valuable asset. Otherwise what was the point of not letting him go to QPR. Players will also think all they need to do is throw a strop and the club sells at the first opportunity at a knock down price and ends up losing its investment. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on June 27, 2013, 10:47:20 PM
Surley the market value for a player that earns 2million a year in the last year of his contract can't be more than his earnings? Keeping him in jan was a mistake and holding out now will be. i loved him by the way and don't have a bad word to say about him but he wants away. i don't want any player here who doesn't want to waer the shirt!!

GET RID!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 27, 2013, 10:56:12 PM
Keeping him in jan was a mistake

In hindsight, maybe. But if we'd have let him go endless amounts of people would have called us weak and we'd of looked very bad and set a president for other want away stroppy sods.

I'm glad we kept him, as it meant QPR went down and we stayed looking strong. Big picture, that's going to be worth more than the £2mill or so this ep has cost us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on June 27, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
In hindsight, maybe. But if we'd have let him go endless amounts of people would have called us weak and we'd of looked very bad and set a president for other want away stroppy sods.

I'm glad we kept him, as it meant QPR went down and we stayed looking strong. Big picture, that's going to be worth more than the £2mill or so this ep has cost us.

No not just in hindsight. I don't think he ever really saw us as anything other than a steping stone to something else which never came.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: boing_boing68 on June 27, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
He would be a great signing for hull or crystal palace, I would sell for £2million
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mannimc on June 28, 2013, 12:51:06 AM
Does anyone else get the impression that he might just stay and be our first choice centre forward next season?

Is he better than Di Santo, Carlton Cole and Kone?????? More proven and more prolific?

If we go abroad and make this marque signing that we are all convinced might happen will Bony or mbukini score 15 goals in the prem!! I don't know.

Peter you can go to Palace or hull and best. The water is dirty at the moment but we welcomed Hughes back a greedy local boy who sold us out for Coventry. Sometimes the answer to your problems stand right in front of you.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on June 28, 2013, 02:18:04 AM
Does anyone else get the impression that he might just stay and be our first choice centre forward next season?

Is he better than Di Santo, Carlton Cole and Kone?????? More proven and more prolific?

If we go abroad and make this marque signing that we are all convinced might happen will Bony or mbukini score 15 goals in the prem!! I don't know.

Peter u can go to Palace or hull and best. The water is dirty at the moment but we welcomed Hughes back a greedy local boy who sold us out for Coventry. Sometimes the answer to your problems stand right in front of you.

Dream on. PO has a few screws loose. Even if he stays people will always keep an eye on him to watch for signs of him losing it again. I don't think management wants that hassle and to waste energy doing that. The only way he stays is if we find no suitors for him at all, ie no one desperate enough to take a chance on him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on June 28, 2013, 08:38:21 AM
Even the Nigeria coach said he can come back if he keeps his gob shut.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on June 28, 2013, 09:05:06 AM
Does anyone else get the impression that he might just stay and be our first choice centre forward next season?

Is he better than Di Santo, Carlton Cole and Kone?????? More proven and more prolific?

If we go abroad and make this marque signing that we are all convinced might happen will Bony or mbukini score 15 goals in the prem!! I don't know.

Peter you can go to Palace or hull and best. The water is dirty at the moment but we welcomed Hughes back a greedy local boy who sold us out for Coventry. Sometimes the answer to your problems stand right in front of you.
His problems stem back to when Roy Hodgson was in charge, he just doesnt want to be here regardless! F*ck him off before he splits the dressing room further!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on June 28, 2013, 09:14:11 AM
He falls out with every coach.Hes a bad apple
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on June 28, 2013, 09:18:23 AM
if he stays i wont have to change me name....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hulsey74 on June 28, 2013, 11:18:08 AM
I was saying exactly the same the other day, proven scorer who wins / changes games. Yes i agree the bloke is a complete Tw@t, but so are a lot of footballers, (please do not start telling me how they don't rub our nose in it etc). He is a greedy bast@rd, but lets be honest, if anyone of us was offered 50% more money to move up the road to another employer, we would do what ever it takes to achieve the goal. The problem with any footballer, they do not live in the real world, but to a point this is not their fault, from the ages of 8 or 9 they are constantly told they are brilliant, have their arses wiped for them etc everything is done for them and so on, but we create that, how many times have you been on this board and read sign this bloke, or that bloke, spend millions...........

For me, i would keep him as you will not get the same quality without either taking a gamble (which you can lose) or spending 8 million plus stupid wages.............(and still be at risk of injuries etc).

He will never be a fans favourite, but that don't stop him scoring goals..........

Look at all our squad, they will always push for more money, even my favourite down to earth (sort of) player G Mac, he has just done it, so did Morrison last year, Olsson also, Gera to a point has earnt money for nothing. How often will you hear of a player say, " i know i am on 40k a week, but i have been pooh / injured for last 6 months, here's half my money back".
Olsson is the classic, brilliant, gets new contract, and since been average..........Morrison also.

I am not having a go here at any player, but just spelling it out, you are deluded if you think there is any loyalty from any player these days, and also from any club towards any player, as soon as you are past it, your out............ look at all the poor discarded kids playing academy football, from the age of 8 "you're brilliant!", to age of 16 (and failed all their exams as they are constantly told they are brilliant so only focus on football) to be told, "nah you aint no good - sorry"......

Long winded rant over
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on June 28, 2013, 11:35:46 AM
You have made some good points . Having said that his behaviour has been appalling .he has wanted out for 18 months , and since jan has trashed the club . He is the only one in my 50 years of watching WBA who has publicly behaved so bad . Get rid ASAP . The bloke is a disgrace .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on June 28, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
Perhaps the Moscow 'Thank you West Brom' banner wasn't all about racism after all.....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on June 28, 2013, 12:02:45 PM
Perhaps the Moscow 'Thank you West Brom' banner wasn't all about racism after all.....
Yep......he's got to get offski!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie004 on July 01, 2013, 04:03:51 AM
I think we have to resign to say he's staying, and to a certain point I'm happy about that. The way I look at it Albion will forgive but not forget. If he produces in preseason and someone comes in for him, I would sell. If he produces and no one comes in then we may have a little of the "old Pete" back. If none of that happens then we are stuck where we are now, paying 40k a week to someone who sits the bench.

However, I really don't think anyone wants to take the risk on Pete tbh
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 01, 2013, 08:59:36 AM
I think Pete will be with us into Pre season then one of the interested clubs will get an itchy finger and pay up the money we want
although that won't be disclosed!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 01, 2013, 04:31:23 PM
I don't know why, but I can genuinely see Peter Odemwingie being here at the start of the Premier League season.

I would have thought our valuation of him and the price potentially interested clubs have in mind for a player who has stated publicly on several occasions his desire to leave the club differs greatly at the moment.

Having said that, I can't see him being here when the transfer window closes and do think that someone will come in with an acceptable offer towards the end of the transfer window when they become more desperate to sign another player or two.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 01, 2013, 07:53:49 PM


Sinclair/anelka.            Ba/long/lukaku.          Odemwingie/chadli


Don't look too bad?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 01, 2013, 09:07:19 PM
I think we have to resign to say he's staying, and to a certain point I'm happy about that. The way I look at it Albion will forgive but not forget. If he produces in preseason and someone comes in for him, I would sell. If he produces and no one comes in then we may have a little of the "old Pete" back. If none of that happens then we are stuck where we are now, paying 40k a week to someone who sits the bench.

However, I really don't think anyone wants to take the risk on Pete tbh

Heading into next season with Peter Odemwingie in the squad is a very dangerous risk in my opinion, purely because he is only one bad game from being on the supporters backs and him responding to us as we witnessed last season. He has created divisions in the stands and we cannot continue to have this horrible hangover overshadowing the club and for that reason alone, and of course, his wishes, he must be moved on. JP will play hard ball for an inflated price and therefore I expect him to be with us in pre-season but hopefully he'll be gone by the time the season starts. The sooner he goes, the more chance we have of finding a suitable replacement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: solidus on July 01, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
He will leave "on a years loan, with a view to a permanent transfer". Probably on deadline day; a JP special.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on July 02, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
 if we've not completely burnt the bridges with QPR if a loan swap for the season with us having Remy and each club pays the loan player. Would solve issues for both clubs Remy staying in prem and their player if they do come back up and we get rid of Pete. Bit like the foster deal with blues
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on July 02, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
if we've not completely burnt the bridges with QPR if a loan swap for the season with us having Remy and each club pays the loan player. Would solve issues for both clubs Remy staying in prem and their player if they do come back up and we get rid of Pete. Bit like the foster deal with blues
Remy still has the rape cloud hanging over him which is why speculation dried up as to which of Arsenal Spurs or whoever were going to sign him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 05, 2013, 11:35:49 AM
all gone quiet all gone quiet all gone quiet over there
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 05, 2013, 11:37:36 AM
All gone quite what? Oh quiet!  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 05, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
All gone quite what? Oh quiet!  :P


Bloody dyslexia :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mrvulgarity on July 05, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
Fun Fact: On my football manager handheld 2013, Odemwingie signed for Foret Green in 2014 on a free transfer
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on July 05, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
So if he is here now season what do we do. Forgive but obviously not forget!

       Odemwingie       Morrison            Kalou

                                Anelka/Long

If he is with us and we are paying him we would be idiots not to use him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 05, 2013, 02:50:51 PM
So if he is here now season what do we do. Forgive but obviously not forget!

       Odemwingie       Morrison            Kalou

                                Anelka/Long

If he is with us and we are paying him we would be idiots not to use him.

Problem with that formation is the fact that one of his whines was about playing out wide.

Despite the fact he's done it for a major part of his career at club and international level
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 05, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
Problem with that formation is the fact that one of his whines was about playing out wide.
The other problem with it is that it would mean he was still here!

Someone come and sign him pleeeeeeease!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on July 05, 2013, 08:58:45 PM
Could do with himn out of the place asap now we have made our January Window stand.

Hopefully all his fines have meant we have recouped much of his wage since January !!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on July 06, 2013, 07:11:38 AM
Could do with himn out of the place asap now we have made our January Window stand.

Hopefully all his fines have meant we have recouped much of his wage since January !!!

He's been teaching the youth players how to get contracts at other clubs..
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on July 06, 2013, 07:28:46 AM
I can't see Odemwingie leaving until the last few days of the transfer window. Interested clubs will know we are desperate to sell and will come up with a very low and late offer, which we will have to accept.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on July 06, 2013, 07:59:54 AM
I can't see Odemwingie leaving until the last few days of the transfer window. Interested clubs will know we are desperate to sell and will come up with a very low and late offer, which we will have to accept.

That's how JP would do it if he was going to buy him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on July 06, 2013, 09:04:28 AM
I think he will go and probably as said very late on,i hope we get cover before then.

But if he doesn't go,should we wipe the slate clean with him?

Don't get me wrong,i have no time for the guy after what he did,but it wouldn't help our cause if we carried on the vendetta.Tevez had another year or two at City after his tantrums.
It's part of the spoilt child attitude that infests the game today.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Trigger on July 06, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
Although I would like him to leave.

I can imagine Anelka long and odemwingie being a great front three.

If we sign Sinclair, and Kalou then I think we would have a very strong forward/winger line.

You never no what going to happen!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on July 06, 2013, 01:24:56 PM
Although I would like him to leave.

I can imagine Anelka long and odemwingie being a great front three.

If we sign Sinclair, and Kalou then I think we would have a very strong forward/winger line.

You never no what going to happen!
Mate stranger things have happened at the Hawthorns so you MAY be right.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 06, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
Mate stranger things have happened at the Hawthorns so you MAY be right.

Yep he may well but I hope not.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on July 06, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
Mate stranger things have happened at the Hawthorns so you MAY be right.

Odemwingie's ego was too fragile to cope with Lukaku. He'll fall apart totally in the shadow of Anelka!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Smooth Lad on July 06, 2013, 08:50:12 PM
Yes, he will definitely start whinging when Anelka starts slipping every single ball he gets into the net.

I fear for Fosters confidence also.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on July 06, 2013, 11:21:39 PM
Odemwingie's ego was too fragile to cope with Lukaku. He'll fall apart totally in the shadow of Anelka!

I doubt that was the reason.His scoring record is very good at this level.

I believe he was being truthful when he said he was being played out of positition,with Pete it is all about him,which isn't always a bad thing a striker being selfish,but he hated the provider role on the wing.

What he did was totally unproffessional and embarrassing,but that was last season.

If he does stay,then that will be then,this will be now as far as i am concerned.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 06, 2013, 11:38:02 PM
I doubt that was the reason.His scoring record is very good at this level.

I believe he was being truthful when he said he was being played out of positition,with Pete it is all about him,which isn't always a bad thing a striker being selfish,but he hated the provider role on the wing.

What he did was totally unproffessional and embarrassing,but that was last season.

If he does stay,then that will be then,this will be now as far as i am concerned.

He wanted to leave (every bloody window) and that was the excuse the poisonous little sod tried to use.

Don't get sucked into giving him any credit in this mess.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on July 06, 2013, 11:53:14 PM
totally agree with you london.he wanted to leave 18 months ago.players come and go.letshope some one comes in for him .hopefully qpr.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on July 06, 2013, 11:59:42 PM
I am old enough to remember when players were paid nothing and were just happy to  put on the shirt.Just research bomber brown our greatest servant who  once went in goal for the baggies .The modern footballer is a disgrace and po is a prime example 40k a week and he throws it back at us .Jp is correct let him rot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 07, 2013, 10:08:29 AM
Lets not forget if Clark wants 3 forwards (2wide) that can all chip in with goals , he is very very good at that role.
I see why people would want him out but for me if he is still here I'm ok with it.
If you were a defender and had been up against malouda kalou and anelka for 65 minutes then looked at the sideline and could see pete Sinclair and long coming on you may be a little disappointed  :D
He may have been naughty but he's done plenty good for this club , how many of the fans berating him now have had some of their best nights out on the town due to odemwingie s goals ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on July 07, 2013, 11:06:08 AM
Lets not forget if Clark wants 3 forwards (2wide) that can all chip in with goals , he is very very good at that role.
I see why people would want him out but for me if he is still here I'm ok with it.
If you were a defender and had been up against malouda kalou and anelka for 65 minutes then looked at the sideline and could see pete Sinclair and long coming on you may be a little disappointed  :D
He may have been naughty but he's done plenty good for this club , how many of the fans berating him now have had some of their best nights out on the town due to odemwingie s goals ?
I'm afraid he's been too much of an ar*e for too long now. Of course he's done good things for the club but that's why he's paid 40k a week.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 07, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
I actually feel for him in a way. Had a conversation on twitter with him. For some reason can't copy and paste it on iPhone.

Edit, can't find the conversation now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on July 07, 2013, 01:47:56 PM
Anyone finding excuses for him basically has no values . The good things he has done he has been paid well for . He was doing a job like anybody else . Any other job he would have had the sack .please don't reward bad behaviour with excuses for him . There are hundreds of players who have been good servants in the past ,who were paid a pittance. He ain't worth anything to me . Sorry rant over
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on July 07, 2013, 02:00:20 PM
It would be some front line next season, if he was here and if Clarke would start him. However after what he did in January was non excusable for me, wanting to leave the club is also disappointing for a fan, but doing what he did, angered me a lot. I just hope we can sell him now and forget.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 07, 2013, 02:28:57 PM
I actually feel for him in a way. Had a conversation on twitter with him. For some reason can't copy and paste it on iPhone.

Edit, can't find the conversation now.

So did I after he started sending me messages. Told him Twitter not the place to air grievances and to be fair he did agree he had gone to far on Twitter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on July 07, 2013, 09:19:42 PM
No bigger critic than me , but wished all parties would grow up get round a table and sort it out rather have him scoring for us than against
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie004 on July 07, 2013, 11:02:33 PM
I known its the Mirror, but just read this....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-transfer-news-unhappy-2036876

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gibraltar baggie on July 07, 2013, 11:42:07 PM
I expect he will leave... in the Birmingham Mail there was a very significant line in a recent report about it - Peter Odemwingie and Steve Clarke are both eager for a parting of ways - or something to that effect.

If the Head Coach wants him gone than he will be gone because he only got on the bench the 2nd half of the season because we were low on numbers, Clarke will look to have enough without him at all next season
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on July 08, 2013, 07:19:32 AM
The sooner he's gone the better. No doubt Clarke is building the squad without Odemwingie in it, the names being bandied about (Kalou, Malouda etc) will more than make up for losing what he brought to the team.

Roll on August 17th, I can't wait!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 08, 2013, 07:50:28 AM
I known its the Mirror, but just read this....

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-transfer-news-unhappy-2036876

£2.5 million could release Kalou  :D ??? & his wages again would help cover his, not a bad swap & 1 I would gladly take.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 08, 2013, 08:28:31 AM
As we all know, Jeremy Peace won't sign Odemwingie's replacement until he's actually gone, so it's our interest to do a deal as soon as possible and we can then get on with bringing in the newcomer sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on July 08, 2013, 03:56:26 PM
Didn't Odemwingie play for Lille once? not sure if they'd want him back if they have had to deal with his childish behaviour before... but a swap +cash deal would be nice. DOn't want him benefitting another perm team
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on July 09, 2013, 07:25:09 PM
Did he turn up for training?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on July 09, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
Did he turn up for training?
I just asked someone, apparently he doesn't have to for reasons already given, which I can't find!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 09, 2013, 07:31:29 PM
According to one of the papers yesterday either Birmingham Mail or E&S he was given time off yesterday morning as he had been in Lagos for a wedding but was expected for the afternoon session.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mossi28 on July 09, 2013, 11:00:02 PM
Interest from Palace now increasing, he's currently training with kids
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on July 10, 2013, 05:58:42 AM
West Brom's Peter Odemwingie barred from first-team CHANGING ROOM as Crystal Palace talks continue

Baggies are also making controversial striker train away from the senior players - yet won't sell him on the cheap

rystal Palace boss Ian Holloway is trying to thrash out a deal for unhappy West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie.

The 31-year-old, who has a year left on his contract, is hopeful of agreeing terms with Premier League new boys Palace after discussions between the clubs.

Holloway hopes to land Odemwingie for £2.5m, but the Baggies - who were furious at the player in January when he tried to force a move to QPR - are determined to drive a hard bargain.

Palace have also been talking about taking him on a one-year loan for about £40,000-a-week if the clubs cannot agree a fee, which would allow West Brom room on their payroll for Lille's former Chelsea forward Salomon Kalou.

The Baggies, meanwhile, have ordered Odemwingie to train away from their first-team squad - and even told to use a separate changing room to the rest of the senior players.

Nigeria international Odemwingie was hit with the demand when he reported for pre-season on Monday.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-crystal-palace-transfers-2041321#ixzz2YcDVCgeZ  (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-crystal-palace-transfers-2041321#ixzz2YcDVCgeZ)



Why does this make me laugh  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 10, 2013, 06:13:08 AM
Obviously no way back for him................glad to say
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 10, 2013, 07:13:46 AM
Obviously no way back for him................glad to say

True.

To be honest I'd just take the £2.5m if that's what they're offering. It's a profit (I think) and he's gone at the end of the season on a free so a loan would almost be like a loss.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 10, 2013, 08:23:21 AM
We have to be willing to do a deal rather than playing brinkmanship over a hard bargain, as making him train away from the first team is hardly a selling point! Let's hope something happens this week as we don't want to be wasting valuable time on him any longer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: row ww on July 10, 2013, 08:41:29 AM
Saturday 2nd November should be interesting then!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on July 10, 2013, 10:38:07 AM
Yep take £2.5m if that's what's offered - we would also save £2m on his wages.
Really hope we don't hold out for the sake of an extra half million.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie38 on July 10, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
I just can't wait for this whole saga to be over with. Its becoming so tedious reading about him now. The sooner he leaves the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 10, 2013, 11:42:41 AM
Hope there is a move agreed as soon as possible, would have preferred a move abroad though as I wouldn't want us to strengthen a rival. We all need to move on from this sorry saga.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie38 on July 10, 2013, 11:46:18 AM
Its such a shame its come down to this. He could of left in a good nature with our best wishes. Many would of deemed him as a modern day hero but instead its all ending in a bad manner. We move on nobody is bigger then the club!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DownInAlbion on July 10, 2013, 01:05:20 PM
Guranteed his going to score against us! Surely he is regretting all this now though? With QPR there was a chance, a slight chance albeit, that if they survived they could've pushed on next year with the money they had but Palace is just a total step down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on July 10, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
Guranteed his going to score against us! Surely he is regretting all this now though? With QPR there was a chance, a slight chance albeit, that if they survived they could've pushed on next year with the money they had but Palace is just a total step down.

Agreed, Palace is a big step down, but he's got himself to blame. It's not completely out of the question that if he'd seen out the end of last season without his little stunt, with Lukaku gone he'd be back being the star of the show.

If what he says is true, about wanting to play at a high level and secure his future, he could have done that quite easily by working his balls off instead of crying. Now he's taking a step down and tarnished his reputation enough that he wont last much longer in the game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 10, 2013, 01:19:03 PM
He'll be gone in the next few days for 3 mil I reckon.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on July 10, 2013, 01:39:35 PM
He's good enough to keep them up next season and he'll definitely score against us - no doubt about it.
 
It really is a shame he is such a scumbag because any player who scores a hattrick at Molineux should be hailed a hero and have a place in all of our hearts but his antics the last 18 months mean that wont ever happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Noty Bromway on July 10, 2013, 01:48:12 PM
Sensible move by the club, like villa with bent...if they are going...don't have any insight to this seasons prep...then get rid!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnny Cash on July 10, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
He's good enough to keep them up next season and he'll definitely score against us - no doubt about it.
 
It really is a shame he is such a scumbag because any player who scores a hattrick at Molineux should be hailed a hero and have a place in all of our hearts but his antics the last 18 months mean that wont ever happen.

I think he will be injured vs us!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 10, 2013, 01:55:37 PM
Wonder if JP could pull off one of his famous binding loan to permanent deals like he did with Greening and Robinson, that way he wouldn't be able to play against us this season...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on July 10, 2013, 01:59:12 PM
Play Reid against him on his return to The Hawthorns, I'm sure he'll be dealt with ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 10, 2013, 02:37:09 PM
Play Reid against him on his return to The Hawthorns, I'm sure he'll be dealt with ;D


My worry is he will skin Reid
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 10, 2013, 02:50:43 PM

My worry is he will skin Reid
My worry is Reid will literally skin him!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 10, 2013, 06:54:36 PM
I'm wondering if there will be any offers from other clubs to maybe drive the price up to around 3.5M?
Hull were another side rumoured to be interested in him and the deal to buy Charlie Austin from Burnley collapsed when he failed his medical. Local paper have quoted Bruce as wanting 1 or 2 strikers but not going back in for Hooper so maybe a bidding war is on the cards?

Personally I'd like him to go abroad where he can't strengthen a rival.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Smooth Lad on July 11, 2013, 12:01:38 AM
Pete's fragile, if he moves to another Prem club the about of abuse he'll get before the game over twitter and in the game will be untrue, he won't be able to cope, he'll melt and focus all his attention on the crowd.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on July 11, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
Pete is fragile, he will get a boat load of abuse.. but no doubt that will make him more determined to shut everyone up and deep down, we all know he is a good player regardless of his childish behavior and attitude! Fair play to the guy if he goes somewhere else and scores past us next season... will soon shut everyone up and make everyone realise how good he can actually be when his mind is on the game and not twitter!

Wish everyone would just shut up about it, if everyone was against him like they say they are they would give it a rest and let the bloke go in peace and remember the good odemwingie he once was!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 11, 2013, 12:25:45 AM
No-one has disputed his talent so if he scores against us its hardly likely to 'shut people up and make them realise' anything.

He has wanted to leave for a while before January, he brought it on himself, he went whining on Twitter and got the repsonse he desrved.

People are talking about it on a forum designed for talking about Albion related things and that won't stop. If you don't like it, don't read it let alone post a reply in the very same thread.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 11, 2013, 08:20:18 AM
Pete is fragile, he will get a boat load of abuse.. but no doubt that will make him more determined to shut everyone up and deep down, we all know he is a good player regardless of his childish behavior and attitude! Fair play to the guy if he goes somewhere else and scores past us next season... will soon shut everyone up and make everyone realise how good he can actually be when his mind is on the game and not twitter!

Wish everyone would just shut up about it, if everyone was against him like they say they are they would give it a rest and let the bloke go in peace and remember the good odemwingie he once was!

Welcome  adamw1109
I don't think you have taken the time to read many posts in this thread if you had done so you would see that no poster has ever said Pete goals wont be missed quite the opposite in fact
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on July 14, 2013, 04:45:15 PM

According to Sky various suitors are emerging for Odemwingie's signature
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11695/8824227
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 14, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
Bidding war time!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on July 14, 2013, 04:51:43 PM
According to Sky various suitors are emerging for Odemwingie's signature
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11695/8824227
Interesting. Those listed clubs go against a growing feeling on Twitter that he will be off to Cardiff this week. Even if the Twitter rumours are the usual rubbish I think it's clear we will be off somewhere sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 14, 2013, 04:56:46 PM
All this talk of 1.5 million  is garbage. JP will be licking his lips at the thought of exploiting some eager beaver rival chairman out of their cash. No way will Peace let Odemwingie go on the cheap. Not going to happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 14, 2013, 05:42:56 PM
According to Sky various suitors are emerging for Odemwingie's signature
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11695/8824227

The more the merrier.
I bet JP is flexing his counting fingers as we speak
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on July 14, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
All this talk of 1.5 million  is garbage. JP will be licking his lips at the thought of exploiting some eager beaver rival chairman out of their cash. No way will Peace let Odemwingie go on the cheap. Not going to happen.
 

too right! £1.5 million. no chance, JP has proved himself a master operator in the past. im going to stick my neck out and say he will go for around £4 million.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on July 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Thing is there may be 5 clubs interested at £1.5m but zero at £4m.
If we are offered £3m we should grab it (effectively £5m saving his £2m wages as well).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: j_dog_1980 on July 14, 2013, 09:45:24 PM
rubbish thing is he'll be s@@t hot for whoever he signs for! Shame..........waste..............
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 14, 2013, 09:51:01 PM
Great player.., just not a great person! :(
First real top flight forward we have had probably since Cyrille.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 14, 2013, 09:57:24 PM
Great player.., just not a great person! :(
First real top flight forward we have had probably since Cyrille.
Not even that, he's actually really nice. He's just not a great employee.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 14, 2013, 10:25:18 PM
Not even that, he's actually really nice. He's just not a great employee.
yeah that too...!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on July 14, 2013, 10:54:04 PM
Thing is there may be 5 clubs interested at £1.5m but zero at £4m.
If we are offered £3m we should grab it (effectively £5m saving his £2m wages as well).

There is lot's of fresh hot money burning the pockets of clubs. The promoted clubs would get a proven 10+ goal scorer with lots of PL experience. Sunderland would instantly strengthen their attack as well.

I'd be surprised if PO went for merely £1.5 million or so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on July 14, 2013, 11:13:49 PM
There is lot's of fresh hot money burning the pockets of clubs. The promoted clubs would get a proven 10+ goal scorer with lots of PL experience. Sunderland would instantly strengthen their attack as well.

I'd be surprised if PO went for merely £1.5 million or so.

The bottom line is that he would be a very cheap option to strengthen any newly promoted team whilst weakening our squad considerably - we don't look to have much of a ready made replacement lined up as things stand - we need to replace a Primiership goal scorer/pace/first team impact player which will cost us if we do it properly.....................
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 15, 2013, 12:10:13 AM
The bottom line is that he would be a very cheap option to strengthen any newly promoted team whilst weakening our squad considerably - we don't look to have much of a ready made replacement lined up as things stand- we need to replace a Primiership goal scorer/pace/first team impact player which will cost us if we do it properly.....................
You mean we haven't be TOLD we have replacement in the works. What the club says and what it does are two very separate matters.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBArgo on July 15, 2013, 12:14:15 AM
rubbish thing is he'll be s@@t hot for whoever he signs for! Shame..........waste..............
Maybe, maybe not...

Stats can be deceptive but he's not the player he was when he came to us.
In his three seasons his goals have gone like this:
1. 15 goals
2. 10 goals
3. 5 goals

So there's a massive gap from his first to third season. I know he barely played at times last year but that was partly due to injury, which is something he can't control. Like it or not, the numbers don't lie and his quality is on the decline.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on July 15, 2013, 12:44:44 AM
Maybe, maybe not...

Stats can be deceptive but he's not the player he was when he came to us.
In his three seasons his goals have gone like this:
1. 15 goals
2. 10 goals
3. 5 goals

So there's a massive gap from his first to third season. I know he barely played at times last year but that was partly due to injury, which is something he can't control. Like it or not, the numbers don't lie and his quality is on the decline.

You may be right. On the other hand this is the third such decline in his career.  2006/7 at Lille when he suddenly remembered his lifelong ambition was to play in Moscow. 2010 in Locomotiv when he suddenly remembered his lifelong ambition was to play in the Premiership and last year when he suddenly remembered his lifelong ambition was to play for Harry Redknapp.  Invariably he has returned to form once  his club have agreed to let their declining star go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 15, 2013, 11:19:38 AM
Thing is there may be 5 clubs interested at £1.5m but zero at £4m.
If we are offered £3m we should grab it (effectively £5m saving his £2m wages as well).

We'll see. History would suggest that we will get a surprisingly large fee for him. We always do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on July 15, 2013, 11:42:20 AM
Quote
We'll see. History would suggest that we will get a surprisingly large fee for him. We always do.

I'm less sure.  JPs argument in the past and the reason he's been able to get some good transfer fees when selling, has always been that we haven't actually needed to sell anyone. I imagine that argument will be easily seen through in this case. It's pretty clear to most that we need Odemwingie out of the way both for financial reasons and also to maintain morale. We could use his £40k to pay a new squad member and team spirit will be damaged if he is still hanging around in more than a few weeks time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on July 15, 2013, 01:09:13 PM
JP has proven to be the master salesman, but on this occasion I'd be very surprised if we get much more than £2m for Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on July 15, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
Clubs know we are desperate to sell which can only drive the price down. I suspect we won't be bringing in anyone for a fee until he has been sold.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on July 15, 2013, 01:23:18 PM
If he moves and scores past us its proving nothing....its him who wants to leave not the other way around.

I would also throw the argument in that Anelka is the experienced replacement and any money used from Odemwingie will be used to bring someone in out wide rather than upfront.

Odemwingie now as little ambition and that was clear when he wanted to sign for QPR, that type of player is not one that is needed no matter how good he is.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 15, 2013, 02:06:20 PM
Odemwingie now has little ambition and that was clear when he wanted to sign for QPR, that type of player is not one that is needed no matter how good he is.
Oh I don't know, I'm sure the Chairman would be delighted for us to have such players!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BAGGIES4LIFE on July 15, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
That's a bit near the knuckle WorcsWBA -you got in there first!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on July 16, 2013, 10:40:05 PM
Yet another Odemwingie rumour story is appearing in the Mirror tomorrow. There are no quotes to substantiate its validity. We're still in the 'silly season' of course!

Crystal Palace's bid to land Peter Odemwingie has come under threat from Fulham.
West Brom striker Odemwingie has been set for a move to south London and Premier League new boys Palace, with Ian Holloway keen on his services.
But with doubts now surrounding that switch, the Cottagers - bought last week by US billionaire Shad Khan - have registered an interest in bringing him to west London instead.
Odemwingie, 31, has just a year left on his contract but has been left out of the Baggies' pre-season tour of Germany.
The Nigeria international, who almost joined Londoners QPR in January, has been forced to train away from the main squad as West Brom freeze him out of the first-team picture
 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fulham-transfers-peter-odemwingie-west-2058026#ixzz2ZFMrs5UK
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tjmill on July 17, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
Peter seems to be joining every club at the moment!
Still think he will end up at qpr myself
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on July 17, 2013, 06:07:44 PM
Hopefully QPR will bid more than anyone else as they are doing to get Hooper
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bangkok Baggie on July 17, 2013, 06:37:36 PM
Can someone just get him gone ... I did my best!

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/05/06/peter-odemwingie-in-new-west-brom-fans-bust-up/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on July 17, 2013, 07:44:15 PM
Can someone just get him gone ... I did my best!

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/05/06/peter-odemwingie-in-new-west-brom-fans-bust-up/

If the photographer just panned to the right a little I was about 7 rows directly behind, you giving him loads  :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bangkok Baggie on July 17, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
If the photographer just panned to the right a little I was about 7 rows directly behind, you giving him loads  :)

Ah, so you'll know mate that it was nowhere near his 'family' when the 'incident' took place? Spurrious allegations, but I just want him out of the club we love. Anyone with as much disrespect and disdain for the supporters of Albion doesn't deserve to be near the Hawthorns. I'll be in the Vine pre-Southampton and if you recognise me I'll buy you a pint. :) Feeling really excited about this season; I know some folk are upset that we're not buying up players etc. but there's something to be said about continuity and a happy dressing-room too.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on July 17, 2013, 08:15:27 PM
Ah, so you'll know mate that it was nowhere near his 'family' when the 'incident' took place? Spurrious allegations, but I just want him out of the club we love. Anyone with as much disrespect and disdain for the supporters of Albion doesn't deserve to be near the Hawthorns. I'll be in the Vine pre-Southampton and if you recognise me I'll buy you a pint. :) Feeling really excited about this season; I know some folk are upset that we're not buying up players etc. but there's something to be said about continuity and a happy dressing-room too.

Bit of a commute from Bankok to The Hawthorns isn't it? :D

He'll be gone in due time, I hope sooner the better, so we can invest the money we get for him in a replacement.

We all know Peace won't part with money for a replacement unless he knows how much he's getting for Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on July 17, 2013, 09:11:33 PM
Ah, so you'll know mate that it was nowhere near his 'family' when the 'incident' took place? Spurrious allegations, but I just want him out of the club we love. Anyone with as much disrespect and disdain for the supporters of Albion doesn't deserve to be near the Hawthorns. I'll be in the Vine pre-Southampton and if you recognise me I'll buy you a pint. :) Feeling really excited about this season; I know some folk are upset that we're not buying up players etc. but there's something to be said about continuity and a happy dressing-room too.

Bit stereotypical BB  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 17, 2013, 11:29:27 PM
Can we keep this on transfer rumours please folks and not dredging up whats gone on before and has been discussed in other topics
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 18, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
According to Sky we have rejected a bid of £850k from Al-Naasr in Dubai
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 18, 2013, 12:25:00 PM
According to Sky we have rejected a bid of £850k from Al-Naasr in Dubai

Timewasters.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 18, 2013, 12:27:06 PM
According to Sky we have rejected a bid of £850k from Al-Naasr in Dubai
Hand's up who would take that just to get him away from the EPL ?
Make it a million and i would!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: up_the_baggies on July 18, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
Hand's up who would take that just to get him away from the EPL ?
Make it a million and i would!

Agreed, £1 mill and i'd get rid abroad.

I fear JP will have a different view mind.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 18, 2013, 12:35:31 PM
£1.5m and I would definitely take it so he would go abroad.

Last thing we should do is strengthen another Premier League club if there is another option.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 18, 2013, 12:36:01 PM
Hand's up who would take that just to get him away from the EPL ?
Make it a million and i would!

You would and I would but, unless you're hiding it well, neither of us is JP.

He'll get the best possible deal and to be fair, the more he can screw out of somebody the more we will have for wages or transfers. The whole not selling him to a team competing with us probably won't enter the equation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on July 18, 2013, 12:39:03 PM
Said from the start that we should sell abroad.  No way should we strengthen a rival in our own league.
 
Reject the first offer but I'd take million to move him abroad.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on July 18, 2013, 12:40:27 PM
What do we know of this Dubai club? Are they mega bucks?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on July 18, 2013, 12:46:55 PM
Why would he agree to a move to Dubai, unless for a huge salary. Who could blame him for sitting tight and waiting for an EPL or big Championship club to buy him or even just sitting out his contract so as not to disrupt his family life so much
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 18, 2013, 12:59:31 PM
Why would he agree to a move to Dubai, unless for a huge salary. Who could blame him for sitting tight and waiting for an EPL or big Championship club to buy him or even just sitting out his contract so as not to disrupt his family life so much
Your answer is in bold ! :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 18, 2013, 01:04:14 PM
Wasn't there a Dubai club involved during his last summer transfer window strop? Not sure if it's the same one though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 18, 2013, 01:08:56 PM
Why would he agree to a move to Dubai, unless for a huge salary. Who could blame him for sitting tight and waiting for an EPL or big Championship club to buy him or even just sitting out his contract so as not to disrupt his family life so much

According to Sky (whether true or not) player is/was up for it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 18, 2013, 01:15:35 PM
Hand's up who would take that just to get him away from the EPL ?
Make it a million and i would!

No way. Id want 3 million minimum. If he was a consumate pro id want 5 million minimum.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on July 18, 2013, 01:20:56 PM
Don't care if a move abroad unsettles him and his family, the pillock brought this on himself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on July 18, 2013, 01:38:03 PM
Your answer is in bold ! :)

It's not important but was there a question mark at the end of my first sentence? Do you think perhaps that it might have been rhetorical?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 18, 2013, 02:17:46 PM
It's not important but was there a question mark at the end of my first sentence? Do you think perhaps that it might have been rhetorical?
well if it was it didnt come across that well, back to the player....half a sniff of big money and he will be gone whatever country family or not.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 18, 2013, 04:45:59 PM
If a player with 3-4 years regular premier league experience, who also scores a lot of goals become available  (even if he was a bit of a nutter) , you lot would all want to sign him? :D
What's more of he was priced at 3m you'd all consider it a price worth paying.

I still think he could stay, but if not then I expect around 3 or 3.5m to settle it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on July 18, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
well if it was it didnt come across that well,

Oh well, pardon me.

[quote ]
...back to the player....half a sniff of big money and he will be gone whatever country family or not.
[/quote]

It seems that we agree anyway. The point was that it isn't just down to the club. He also has a say in the matter and he may decide to go or not go as he wishes even if a bid were to be accepted. (Subject of course to any unknown agreeements or clauses in his contract). But that is nothing more than to state what may be obvious to most.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on July 18, 2013, 05:24:18 PM
If a player with 3-4 years regular premier league experience, who also scores a lot of goals become available  (even if he was a bit of a nutter) , you lot would all want to sign him? :D
What's more of he was priced at 3m you'd all consider it a price worth paying.

I still think he could stay, but if not then I expect around 3 or 3.5m to settle it.

Not even a remote possibility once he had been left out of the senior squad for pre season which is why we are struggling to get a decent price, the world and their wife knows we have to sell. On the other side of the equation why would we want to? He had is backside in a sling with much less provocation than he has currently so whatever his attributes we would be lucky see much from him next year if he were to stay.

The absolute bottom line is that Odemwingie has played his last game for the club all that remains to do is salvage something from the wreckage.       


 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on July 18, 2013, 06:57:32 PM
Not even a remote possibility once he had been left out of the senior squad for pre season which is why we are struggling to get a decent price, the world and their wife knows we have to sell. On the other side of the equation why would we want to? He had is backside in a sling with much less provocation than he has currently so whatever his attributes we would be lucky see much from him next year if he were to stay.

The absolute bottom line is that Odemwingie has played his last game for the club all that remains to do is salvage something from the wreckage.       


Pete has been told again this week that we want him out asap, I feel this is a move on our part to maybe force him to join a club that maybe he might not be 100% sold on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on July 18, 2013, 07:03:45 PM
I admire the clubs stance in January but we really ballsed up by not letting him go back then. We are desperate to sell which can only drive the price down.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 18, 2013, 09:24:02 PM
I admire the clubs stance in January but we really ballsed up by not letting him go back then. We are desperate to sell which can only drive the price down.

I disagree. The message we sent in January was clear to all - don't try to force us to sell because we won't be bullied.

When we were negotiating with Mulumbu, where were the vultures and the rumours? Long still hasn't signed a new contract and no speculation is apparent. Even Olsson with his buy out is attracting no rumours. What we did in January might cost us a couple of million on pete's transfer fee but the message has got through.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on July 18, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
Guys, what am I missing that says he's worth £3million plus when his contract is worth approx £2 million?????
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on July 18, 2013, 11:04:18 PM
Guys, what am I missing that says he's worth £3million plus when his contract is worth approx £2 million?????
It's what the club want. and expect. It's basically double what we bought him for. so think of it as his value (1.5m) plus most of his contract worth (1.5m)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on July 18, 2013, 11:11:18 PM
Am I right that he can buy himself out of this contract for the remaining value?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: ex coseley kid on July 18, 2013, 11:20:59 PM
Good news. He has a new job, he runs the café on Count Arthur Strong.

Always knew he'd sort himself out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on July 18, 2013, 11:41:47 PM
Am I right that he can buy himself out of this contract for the remaining value?

Only with our agreement under FIFA regulations we would still hold his registration so no club could sign him without our consent.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 19, 2013, 07:48:44 AM
and the saga goes on and on and on and on and on
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 19, 2013, 11:39:06 AM
I would like to think we could still about £2m for Peter Odemwingie, but we are probably going to have to settle for less the longer this situation goes on.

I agree with the club's decision to reject the £850,000 bid from Al Nasr in Dubai (as reported on Sky Sports and in the Express & Star), but hopefully they will up their offer if they are genuinely interested in signing Odemwingie and the problems we have encountered with him since January can fully be put behind us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 19, 2013, 12:27:35 PM
I agree with the posters on the previous page who suggested we shouldn't be strengthening fellow Premier League clubs, especially sides like Crystal Palace. If the opportunity to take him abroad arises then it's something I would look to do providing the fee is right. I have a feeling JP might haggle for £2million but I think this just may be one where we cut our loses and let him go for between £1m-£1.5m. The sooner he is gone the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on July 19, 2013, 09:04:18 PM
BUT if Pete wants to stay in this country (don't know if this is the case), then its likely that our competitors are the only potential buyers.
As we know Pete can't be forced to go anywhere he doesn't want to go.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 19, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
BUT if Pete wants to stay in this country (don't know if this is the case), then its likely that our competitors are the only potential buyers.
As we know Pete can't be forced to go anywhere he doesn't want to go.

According to Sky today, Dubai is his preferred option but i'm sure I read in January he wanted to stay in England so either he's changed his mind sensing a payday or he's not bothered where he goes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on July 20, 2013, 10:32:52 AM
According to Sky today, Dubai is his preferred option but i'm sure I read in January he wanted to stay in England so either he's changed his mind sensing a payday or he's not bothered where he goes.

There is no income tax in Dubai

I bet that would attract a player with POs "motivation"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ross on July 20, 2013, 10:39:36 AM
£3m for a player the wrong side of 30 with attitude problems?

Have a day off Mr Peace.

You got this one wrong, and should have sold when his stock was still good
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on July 20, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
Peace has done nothing wrong.

This is a man who has got similar fees for players that have done alot less than Odemwingie despite his age.

As the window progresses clubs become more and more desperate and will pay anything.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on July 20, 2013, 10:53:13 AM
£3m for a player the wrong side of 30 with attitude problems?

Have a day off Mr Peace.

You got this one wrong, and should have sold when his stock was still good

Can't disagree with any of this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on July 20, 2013, 11:43:36 AM
Can't disagree with any of this.

I agree with this.

If any incoming activity revolves around us offloading Odemwinge first then this is going to be a very frustrating window.  We will get somewhere between £1.5m - £2.0m eventually. 

Considering the amount of clubs supposedly in for him I can't believe this still hasn't happened yet.  He's a  proven goalscorer at this level available for peanuts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 20, 2013, 11:45:32 AM
Peace has done nothing wrong.

This is a man who has got similar fees for players that have done alot less than Odemwingie despite his age.

As the window progresses clubs become more and more desperate and will pay anything.

Lets see what fee he go's for 1st before you say that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 20, 2013, 09:38:45 PM
As the window progresses clubs become more and more desperate and will pay anything.
That's not something we ever do!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 20, 2013, 10:41:31 PM
Lets see what fee he go's for 1st before you say that.

Even if he ends up going on a free (that wont happen) Albion still took the right approach. This episode has cost us a few Million, fair enough, but to break to a spoilt player throwing his toys out of the pram would have done alot more damage long term.

I'm 100% behind our stance here. If any future player fancies doing a Pete, then all they have to do is remember how his last 6 months have gone.

I want him gone and by September he will be, but we can't view this as a mistake. We did exactly the right thing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on July 20, 2013, 11:20:14 PM
Brunt said on the home page that 'Peter is now out of the picture'. PO is gone, the rest is just haggling. In any case PO is so divisive that simply getting rid is now a gain.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 20, 2013, 11:31:43 PM
Even if he ends up going on a free (that wont happen) Albion still took the right approach. This episode has cost us a few Million, fair enough, but to break to a spoilt player throwing his toys out of the pram would have done alot more damage long term.

I'm 100% behind our stance here. If any future player fancies doing a Pete, then all they have to do is remember how his last 6 months have gone.

I want him gone and by September he will be, but we can't view this as a mistake. We did exactly the right thing.


I agree with you 100% I was just saying lets see what JP sells him for before fans start saying we should have sold him in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 21, 2013, 04:19:40 PM
It's just a matter of time now it seems

"A source at Al Nasr told Gulf News: “Fulham and Sunderland have joined us so it’s more complicated now, but we still want to keep on negotiating"."

http://gulfnews.com/sport/football/al-nasr-admit-odemwingie-negotiations-are-complicated-1.1211452

He'd be a good signing for someone for 2 years. We'll get £1.5mill for sure and that'll be that.

I'd wager that another big earner will come in to use the wages currently allocated to Pete, but with us being cautious we're probably not going to sign such a player till he's actually gone for certain.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on July 21, 2013, 05:23:04 PM
It seems the 'end game' is near on this sorry saga - he could have been a legend but will leave with as bitter taste as any Albion player in recent history - crying shame.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 21, 2013, 11:44:27 PM
It seems the 'end game' is near on this sorry saga - he could have been a legend but will leave with as bitter taste as any Albion player in recent history - crying shame.

That's it for me in a nutshell. THAT game against Wolves, goals against Villa, Blues, Chelsea, Liverpool etc a proper hero in the making then acts like a total dick on Twitter and sours it for us all.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: westbrom bird on July 22, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
The quicker he goes the better the player has no loyalty and thinks he bigger than the club !!! very wrong there PO  >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 22, 2013, 08:14:30 PM
The quicker he goes the better the player has no loyalty and thinks he bigger than the club !!! very wrong there PO  >:(
He's never said he was bigger than the club,this is going on a bit now,I don't despise him(some do and that's their choice) I've said before if he stayed I would not be dissapointed,lets not kid ourselves that any of our current squad "love"the baggies anymore than any of us love our employers,yes he made mistakes but those of you who have never please tell me.
Rewind to THAT Sunday in feb,when his 3rd went in v wolves most would have allowed him any privelage that night?
He's not in the right but lets not forget the good .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on July 22, 2013, 08:20:40 PM
He's never said he was bigger than the club,this is going on a bit now,I don't despise him(some do and that's their choice) I've said before if he stayed I would not be dissapointed,lets not kid ourselves that any of our current squad "love"the baggies anymore than any of us love our employers,yes he made mistakes but those of you who have never please tell me.
Rewind to THAT Sunday in feb,when his 3rd went in v wolves most would have allowed him any privelage that night?
He's not in the right but lets not forget the good .
'most would have allowed him any privelage that night?'

that night has long gone!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mateinone on July 22, 2013, 08:24:52 PM
I've said before if he stayed I would not be dissapointed,lets not kid ourselves that any of our current squad "love"the baggies anymore than any of us love our employers,yes he made mistakes but those of you who have never please tell me.
Most people working in a professional world would understand that you have obligations. I for example understand that as a person working for a global corporation I have obligations about what I can and cannot write on my own social networking pages and that I can be held accountable to my employer for these things. I may not agree with many things that happen in my organisation, but I never go online and tweet/facebook these thoughts
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on July 22, 2013, 08:27:11 PM

that night has long gone!

And many of us can't wait until he has also been long gone because we are sick of hearing about him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 22, 2013, 08:28:22 PM
He's never said he was bigger than the club,this is going on a bit now,I don't despise him(some do and that's their choice) I've said before if he stayed I would not be dissapointed,lets not kid ourselves that any of our current squad "love"the baggies anymore than any of us love our employers,yes he made mistakes but those of you who have never please tell me.
Rewind to THAT Sunday in feb,when his 3rd went in v wolves most would have allowed him any privelage that night?
He's not in the right but lets not forget the good .

He had a chance. When he initially came back into the squad the reaction from the crowd was nowhere near as bad as it could have been but he just couldn't keep his mouth shut on twitter and had to have yet another pop at the club as things weren't quite going his way. That tarnished his reputation more than his previous exploits, he didn't learn from his mistakes like most people do.

I will remember the goals but it is well and truly overshadowed by him being an idiot. Need him gone now asap.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 22, 2013, 08:55:13 PM
Most people working in a professional world would understand that you have obligations. I for example understand that as a person working for a global corporation I have obligations about what I can and cannot write on my own social networking pages and that I can be held accountable to my employer for these things. I may not agree with many things that happen in my organisation, but I never go online and tweet/facebook these thoughts
Honestly,if you were so well set up financially that you didn't need to work,would you speak out against your employers more?
I said he has been wrong and could of handled things better but I still think nose spite face.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on July 22, 2013, 08:55:24 PM
We are now on Page 114 of this post and much of it is repetition - and boring. I am not having a go at any particular view but surely it is time to forget Mr O until such a time as we have some positive news about his departure. The next time I log onto a post I want to read that he has agreed to move to a particular club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on July 22, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
Shame he was such an idiot but he will be difficult to replace. We saw how much we missed him second half of the season. The sooner he goes though the better as I doubt we'll spend any money until he has.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 22, 2013, 09:01:36 PM
Honestly,if you were so well set up financially that you didn't need to work,would you speak out against your employers more?
I said he has been wrong and could of handled things better but I still think nose spite face.

Hi Si  :D

Personally I would have kept quiet to secure my move elsewhere then vented my spleen at my previous employers rather than try and force a move by acting like a total tit on social media.

The club maybe in the wrong somewhere but they have kept their dignity during it all whereas the player who repeatedly hinted etc at wanting to move during previous windows has acted like a spoilt brat and ruined his relationship with the fans to an extent that he has gone from being well on the way to becoming a modern day legend (a word used to often for no reason) remembered for his goals to being remembered as a jumped up Twitter tosser famous for his tweets and driving down the M40 declaring his love for ole 'Arry
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: timdon on July 22, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
Hi Si  :D

Personally I would have kept quiet to secure my move elsewhere then vented my spleen at my previous employers rather than try and force a move by acting like a total tit on social media.

The club maybe in the wrong somewhere but they have kept their dignity during it all whereas the player who repeatedly hinted etc at wanting to move during previous windows has acted like a spoilt brat and ruined his relationship with the fans to an extent that he has gone from being well on the way to becoming a modern day legend (a word used to often for no reason) remembered for his goals to being remembered as a jumped up Twitter tosser famous for his tweets and driving down the M40 declaring his love for ole 'Arry
Perfectly summed up. if I may say so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on July 23, 2013, 12:43:15 PM
He's never said he was bigger than the club,this is going on a bit now,I don't despise him(some do and that's their choice) I've said before if he stayed I would not be dissapointed,lets not kid ourselves that any of our current squad "love"the baggies anymore than any of us love our employers,yes he made mistakes but those of you who have never please tell me.
Rewind to THAT Sunday in feb,when his 3rd went in v wolves most would have allowed him any privelage that night?
He's not in the right but lets not forget the good .
This for me, spot on. There have been so many crucial goals that odemwingie has provided, so many times we have been near relegation i cant help but owe some thanks to the guy. Yes he's messed up but how do we  know some of the stuff may have been misguided by his agent etc? He'll move on and we'll move on but lets be honest we could be in the championship without his goals, blackburn and wolves away, blackpool at home etc, big turning points
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on July 23, 2013, 02:06:34 PM
Being mentioned again on sky sports, al nasri want to know the transfer fee for greedy could be sorted in next few days
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 23, 2013, 04:57:04 PM
Hi Si  :D

Personally I would have kept quiet to secure my move elsewhere then vented my spleen at my previous employers rather than try and force a move by acting like a total tit on social media.

The club maybe in the wrong somewhere but they have kept their dignity during it all whereas the player who repeatedly hinted etc at wanting to move during previous windows has acted like a spoilt brat and ruined his relationship with the fans to an extent that he has gone from being well on the way to becoming a modern day legend (a word used to often for no reason) remembered for his goals to being remembered as a jumped up Twitter tosser famous for his tweets and driving down the M40 declaring his love for ole 'Arry
Bonjour Phil  :D
I can't argue, what I would say is ....clearly he ain't the most stable, we have only heard one side really and regardless how much in the bank if you fined me 80k I'd bloody spout my mouth off too?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on July 24, 2013, 01:05:55 PM
According to sky sports the Dubai team interested are now looking elsewhere after we didnt get back to them regarding an acceptable price after their joke offer of 850k.. Looks like we aren't wanting to sell for anything less than the 3 mill we want? I can see this dragging on till the last day lol we WILL get the price we want when people start panicking near the end of window that's for sure.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on July 24, 2013, 01:10:43 PM
According to sky sports the Dubai team interested are now looking elsewhere after we didnt get back to them regarding an acceptable price after their joke offer of 850k.. Looks like we aren't wanting to sell for anything less than the 3 mill we want? I can see this dragging on till the last day lol we WILL get the price we want when people start panicking near the end of window that's for sure.
Not sure where you have got £3 million from. We want around £2 million, maybe up to £2.5 million if we are lucky. Those are the figures reported in most places.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 24, 2013, 01:12:46 PM
Should have sold him for what they offered.We dont want him in this league because you just know whats going to happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on July 24, 2013, 01:21:33 PM
Ah I thought it was 3 mil my bad.. That said would still be a bargain in my humble opinion ( 1st season performance before shh hits the fan obviously) Personaly I'm glad we're playing hardball. He can't be affecting morale when he's not training with first team etc..last seasons end we still needed him as a squad player, next year we won't wether he's here or not lol! Part of me would like to see him here just for the lesson but no doubt he'll be gone.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 24, 2013, 01:28:27 PM
If we don't get his valuation then we should keep him.Nobody thought Tevez would play for City again but he did. We should learn from how they handled things. He may be a tw4t but he is a good player who i would be happy to utilise, i know the majority feel differently.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on July 24, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
If we don't get his valuation then we should keep him.Nobody thought Tevez would play for City again but he did. We should learn from how they handled things. He may be a tw4t but he is a good player who i would be happy to utilise, i know the majority feel differently.
Good player on pitch on Saturday maybe, not so on Mon-Fri training with people who you have slated and even come to blows with (allegedly), hes a rotton apple and sooner he is out of the club the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kris_boing on July 24, 2013, 01:45:17 PM
I think if Clarke had any intention of keeping him he would have been on tour and part of the squad for the friendlies.
 
One of the best players I've seen in an Albion shirt but probably the worst in terms of attitude.
 
Sooner he's gone the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: valleybaggie on July 24, 2013, 01:53:01 PM
Clarke has stated that po doesn't feature in his plans so there's clearly no way he's going to play first team football here he's even training with the reserves at the moment. i'm not slating the player ability wise has his goals have definitely kept us up. but his heart is not in the club anymore for what ever reason. I myself would let him go to Dubai for the 850 grand as we'll be paying him for no point at all at least we'll save his wages being spent and can put what ever money we'll save towards a replacement and also' there's no chance of him playing against us and probably coming back to haunt us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 24, 2013, 02:03:38 PM
According to sky sports the Dubai team interested are now looking elsewhere after we didnt get back to them regarding an acceptable price after their joke offer of 850k.
I have no great faith in "Sky sources", but I hope we're not indulging in another game of brinkmanship over this. We just need to get a deal done to get him out of the club. Whilst he may not be training with the first team, his festering bad influence is still around the club (like the smell that wafts from muck-spread fields) and not playing pre-season matches will reduce the likelihood of clubs coming in for him, because he won't be properly fit at the start of the new season.

Please, Mr Peace, just get a deal done so that all of us can finally move on from this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 24, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
Deal over apparently???


http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8838436/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 26, 2013, 11:37:09 AM
West Ham interested now after missing out on Kalou.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 26, 2013, 11:43:45 AM
West Ham interested now after missing out on Kalou.

The dominoes are starting to line up!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lewisant on July 26, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
West Ham get a striker, stop sniffing around strikers we're after and we sell our bad egg. Simples!
Everything's coming up roses!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 26, 2013, 01:22:37 PM
West Ham interested now after missing out on Kalou.
They're linked with every other striker, so Odemwingie might as well be included too! He won't like there being no guarantee that he'll only be played through the middle any more than Kalou though of course.

I don't really care who he goes to as long as he goes asap. He'll probably soon find a reason to become disenchanted wherever he goes to.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on July 26, 2013, 01:42:14 PM
Link re : Odemwingie -> West Ham

Peter Odemwingie attracts the attention of West Ham

West Ham United have turned their attention to signing Peter Odemwingie after his proposed moves to Crystal Palace and Fulham fell through.

The East London club are also keen on Salomon Kalou, but the Lille forward wants to play as a central striker, which may also end the interest shown by West Bromwich Albion, who have have asked to sign Matej Vydra on loan from Udinese. The striker scored 22 goals for Watford last season.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article3825669.ece
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on July 26, 2013, 02:25:32 PM
Don't care which team will he play for ,just want him leave Albion as soon as possible.West ham sign him up please.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 26, 2013, 03:04:14 PM
Don't care which team will he play for ,just want him leave Albion as soon as possible.West ham sign him up please.

TAXI for Odemwingie  :-*
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on July 26, 2013, 03:32:24 PM
I'd prefer he left the country but yeah just want him to go, this has gone on for far too long.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 26, 2013, 03:54:23 PM
Link re : Odemwingie -> West Ham

Peter Odemwingie attracts the attention of West Ham

West Ham United have turned their attention to signing Peter Odemwingie after his proposed moves to Crystal Palace and Fulham fell through.

The East London club are also keen on Salomon Kalou, but the Lille forward wants to play as a central striker, which may also end the interest shown by West Bromwich Albion, who have have asked to sign Matej Vydra on loan from Udinese. The striker scored 22 goals for Watford last season.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article3825669.ece


Yes we get Kalou they get Odemwonga, nice :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RuncornBaggie on July 26, 2013, 05:13:47 PM
I would rather he went abroad, but beggars can't be choosers!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on July 26, 2013, 05:34:22 PM
Why doesn't Harry have any interest anymore?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 30, 2013, 11:22:06 AM
If we cant get a replacement and his attitude improved could he stay?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on July 30, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
If we cant get a replacement and his attitude improved could he stay?
I suspect Clarke has finally given up on him , to not be involved in Pre season at all says everything to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on July 30, 2013, 11:36:01 AM
If we cant get a replacement and his attitude improved could he stay?

Not a prayer.
As they say 'he's toast'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 30, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
We need to get a deal done for him, because he's missing out on playing in pre-season matches and that will make him less saleable. Players are always talking about it being difficult to recover from not having had a proper pre-season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on July 30, 2013, 11:56:41 AM
Are we waiting to get rid of him before we spend any money I wonder? There appears to be little interest at present. My money is on us having to send him out on loan late on in the window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 30, 2013, 12:16:53 PM
If we cant get a replacement and his attitude improved could he stay?

No, he will not be forgiven by supporters and no matter how much he improves his attitude, he is only one argument away from being up in harms again with the supporters. It's a saga which has been going on now for seven months and needs to be resolved as soon as possible for the benefit of all parties. The fact he has been excluded from our pre-season preparations should tell you all you need to know about Odemwingie's future here. Had he been included in our preparations then I might possibly agree with you. If Odemwingie was to return (god forbid he does) then it signals to me that the club have made a massive cock up in the transfer market.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on July 30, 2013, 01:50:31 PM
No, he will not be forgiven by supporters and no matter how much he improves his attitude, he is only one argument away from being up in harms again with the supporters. It's a saga which has been going on now for seven months and needs to be resolved as soon as possible for the benefit of all parties. The fact he has been excluded from our pre-season preparations should tell you all you need to know about Odemwingie's future here. Had he been included in our preparations then I might possibly agree with you. If Odemwingie was to return (god forbid he does) then it signals to me that the club have made a massive cock up in the transfer market.

Even if that was to happen we should still get rid of him, there is no way back for him, NO WAY at all.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on July 30, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
If we cant get a replacement and his attitude improved could he stay?

Would rather Berahino than Odemwingie
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 30, 2013, 08:47:19 PM
Would rather Berahino than Odemwingie
In 18-24 months maybe, but for now I'd have pete straight back in, he has not handled himself well but the club should have took him out the squad until this pre season, the fact that no serious offer has been made (discounting the 200 quid from the quataris) it may make him realise that although a decent player not quite a world beater?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 30, 2013, 08:53:22 PM
In 18-24 months maybe, but for now I'd have pete straight back in, he has not handled himself well but the club should have took him out the squad until this pre season, the fact that no serious offer has been made (discounting the 200 quid from the quataris) it may make him realise that although a decent player not quite a world beater?

I would take Odemwingie back into the fold in a heartbeat. But then I've never been overly bothered by his conduct anyway.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Legend on July 30, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
I still don't understand why he wanted to leave to be honest.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 30, 2013, 09:07:03 PM
I still don't understand why he wanted to leave to be honest.

This time ? last time ? or the first time ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 30, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
This time ? last time ? or the first time ?
You know, the time when a senior member of the club staff told him it looks like the deal was almost done?
Did the smiley bald fella in the suit talking to him in the car park prior to going look like he was telling him not to disobey club orders?
There's two sides to this, neither handled it well but if he plays I'd support him, but I understand why others wouldn't.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 30, 2013, 10:29:17 PM
You know, the time when a senior member of the club staff told him it looks like the deal was almost done?
Did the smiley bald fella in the suit talking to him in the car park prior to going look like he was telling him not to disobey club orders?
There's two sides to this, neither handled it well but if he plays I'd support him, but I understand why others wouldn't.

I wonder why he didn't want to honour any of the contracts he signed at the club ?

I know there's two sides but only 1 was whinging on Twitter about how hard it is on that contract he was so happy to sign. If he had the nous to keep it shut none of this would have happened, no matter which side is right he's the one who acted the dick.

I wouldn't boo him even if he comes back with another club, wouldn't waste the energy on him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 30, 2013, 10:33:46 PM
I wonder why he didn't want to honour any of the contracts he signed at the club ?
All of the buggers are always asking for an increase.

I know there's two sides but only 1 was whinging on Twitter about how hard it is on that contract he was so happy to sign. If he had the nous to keep it shut none of this would have happened, no matter which side is right he's the one who acted the dick.
(In public)

I wouldn't boo him even if he comes back with another club, wouldn't waste the energy on him
Too busy telling brunt to come in field  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 30, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
But plenty act the dick in private so theres no comeback on them as we don't know. Plenty are unhappy but choose to act with dignity and not stupidity.

And second part telling him to go somewhere  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on July 31, 2013, 03:44:12 AM
I still don't understand why he wanted to leave to be honest.

Well according to him because someone who no longer worked at the club had upset him by questioning his commitment.  So to prove his commitment he sulked and insisted he wanted to play for someone else, instead.  Yeah, I don't understand it either.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on July 31, 2013, 10:00:40 AM
I still don't understand why he wanted to leave to be honest.

I think it's quite simple. He never wanted to be here in the 1st place. We were a stepping stone to something else that never materialised after his initial signing! Come in do well get a move to a bigger club. :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 31, 2013, 11:05:58 AM
I don't want him back but if he hadn't been such a pr***, can you imagine a forward line of him, Long and Anelka.........forget Europa league, Champions league here we come !!

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on July 31, 2013, 11:09:22 AM
There just has to be another Pete Odemwingie out there somewhere, not the heads gone version though
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on July 31, 2013, 02:40:32 PM
I don't want him back but if he hadn't been such a pr***, can you imagine a forward line of him, Long and Anelka.........forget Europa league, Champions league here we come !!

Lets just hope rosenberg can score this season to step in place of odemwingie! :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on July 31, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
is he still here ::) :-[ >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sted1990 on July 31, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
I loved what he brought to the team, one the best players we ever had in the premiership era BUT he has to go and go quick so everyone can move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 31, 2013, 10:50:33 PM
I loved what he brought to the team, one the best players we ever had in the premiership era BUT he has to go and go quick so everyone can move on.

Sadly... the best player of the PL era, by some distance.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on July 31, 2013, 11:00:08 PM
Sadly... the best player of the PL era, by some distance.

Yeah could have been a real icon here but instead he cocked up big time, all the good things he has done will be overshadowed by the last 6 months unfortunately.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 01, 2013, 03:29:15 PM
Cardiff sniffing according to 'sky sources' - should get around the £8m mark now then :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 01, 2013, 04:12:12 PM
Cardiff sniffing according to 'sky sources' - should get around the £8m mark now then :)

About a month until the transfer deadline, so JP will be rubbing his hands with glee if Cardiff follow up their reported interested. Anything around £3m would be brilliant.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 01, 2013, 04:14:17 PM
Cardiff sniffing according to 'sky sources' - should get around the £8m mark now then :)
Given that Malkey McKay says he likes hard workers and is big on dressing room spirit .... not sure if Pete is an obvious fit. ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 01, 2013, 04:15:55 PM
I think Jim White may have picked up this sniff of information for Sky when he visited the Cardiff ground today.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 01, 2013, 04:26:56 PM
So he might be able to get that relegation dog fight he was so desperate for last season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: saml30 on August 01, 2013, 04:55:25 PM
hopefully true, already proved more than once this window they are willing to pay over the odds for players
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 01, 2013, 04:59:48 PM
Given that Malkey McKay says he likes hard workers and is big on dressing room spirit .... not sure if Pete is an obvious fit. ::)
SSSShhhhhhhhh, dont tell them that!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 02, 2013, 08:02:54 AM
We could do without him going to the competition next season, Cardiff, hull, palace etc
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mrvulgarity on August 02, 2013, 11:16:48 AM
We could do without him going to the competition next season, Cardiff, hull, palace etc

Disagree, don't see them has competition to us really.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 02, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
Disagree, don't see them has competition to us really.
Dont write anyone off without a ball being kicked especially when they have just spent 18m on 2 players, they will be competition as will all teams bar the usual top 7! My preference would be to see Pete in a different country or even the Championship but if the only way to get him off the wage bill is selling to them then just get rid and hope his 12-15 goals dont send us down!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 02, 2013, 11:26:18 AM
My preference would be to see Pete in a different country or even the Championship but if the only way to get him off the wage bill is selling to them then just get rid and hope his 12-15 goals dont send us down!

I doubt he'll score that many. Sure, he made a difference to us for a season but in my view was a bit erratic and certainly unreliable after that. Without a pre-season he may be quite average wherever he ends up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 02, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
Disagree, don't see them has competition to us really.


wanna bet :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mrvulgarity on August 02, 2013, 11:33:55 AM

wanna bet :P

Gladly! I do not see Ohsowhingy as a goalscoring threat any more, he is too selfish, too much of a 1 man band striker and that wont sit well with a team who spent a fortune on players not ready for the premiership.

When he kicks off at the club he is playing for, thats it, its Odemwingie's way or no way at all and that will be detremental to the team trying to ply their trade as a premiership team.

It affected us, look at our form before Mr M5 kicked off and then look at our form after. The guy is a utter joke and coud have cost us a top 10 position
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 02, 2013, 11:49:57 AM
Gladly! I do not see Ohsowhingy as a goalscoring threat any more, he is too selfish, too much of a 1 man band striker and that wont sit well with a team who spent a fortune on players not ready for the premiership.

When he kicks off at the club he is playing for, thats it, its Odemwingie's way or no way at all and that will be detremental to the team trying to ply their trade as a premiership team.

It affected us, look at our form before Mr M5 kicked off and then look at our form after. The guy is a utter joke and coud have cost us a top 10 position

Probably more to do with the fact that we missed his presence on the pitch as to the disruption caused. Like him or hate him we missed him second half of last season. I don't think people remember how influential he was early part of last season even with his cameos off the bench. If we don't replace him with a similar type (i.e. Kalou) then we will struggle to open up teams with what we've got.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 02, 2013, 11:57:19 AM
Probably more to do with the fact that we missed his presence on the pitch as to the disruption caused. Like him or hate him we missed him second half of last season. I don't think people remember how influential he was early part of last season even with his cameos off the bench. If we don't replace him with a similar type (i.e. Kalou) then we will struggle to open up teams with what we've got.

That is basically the long and short of it. We were significantly weaker with Odemwingie out of the side.  He deserved to be one of the first names on the teamsheet week in week out for me. His behaviour was disresepectful and unacceptable but I can understand his frustrations at not playing when he was our best attacking option. Like him or not, he is one of the best players we have had in many years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Joust on August 02, 2013, 02:34:27 PM
That is basically the long and short of it. We were significantly weaker with Odemwingie out of the side.  He deserved to be one of the first names on the teamsheet week in week out for me. His behaviour was disresepectful and unacceptable but I can understand his frustrations at not playing when he was our best attacking option. Like him or not, he is one of the best players we have had in many years.

Bang on there mate. If it was just the Twitter outbursts, I could have probably forgot about it due to his performances/goals since joining. However, driving down to London... words fail me. He needs to go now. If he stays, and gets back in the side, the club/manager will look like a right mug.
Will be hard seeing him play for another side in the prem though. Shame because as you say, one of the best strikers we've ever had at the club imo.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Joust on August 02, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
http://youtu.be/Wr6inoyHqY0

Decent vid
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tylerm on August 02, 2013, 02:57:47 PM
Bang on there mate. If it was just the Twitter outbursts, I could have probably forgot about it due to his performances/goals since joining. However, driving down to London... words fail me. He needs to go now. If he stays, and gets back in the side, the club/manager will look like a right mug.
Will be hard seeing him play for another side in the prem though. Shame because as you say, one of the best strikers we've ever had at the club imo.

Opposite for me TBH
I can forgive the drive to London as he was badly advised/seen as a mix up but his Twitter outbursts were the final straw
He had an easy way out of his situation and could have got back onside with the fans by saying 'I love it here/never really wanted to leave/London turned my head etc but he just kept digging that hole deeper and deeper
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 02, 2013, 03:06:50 PM
http://youtu.be/Wr6inoyHqY0

Decent vid


The highs & lows of Peter Odemwingie Albion player summed up very well.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on August 02, 2013, 03:10:42 PM

The highs & lows of Peter Odemwingie Albion player summed up very well.

Watching the goals makes me almost wish he would stay  :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on August 02, 2013, 03:11:55 PM
http://youtu.be/Wr6inoyHqY0

Decent vid
What a shame!!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 02, 2013, 03:15:54 PM
Watching the goals makes me almost wish he would stay  :-X

The 1st part seals his fate for me, The quicker he's gone the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RuncornBaggie on August 02, 2013, 04:43:27 PM
I think Jim White may have picked up this sniff of information for Sky when he visited the Cardiff ground today.

I thought I saw him in the helicopter, trying to force a move to evreyone!  91 other teams to choose from! All in a single day!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on August 02, 2013, 05:46:36 PM
The 1st part seals his fate for me, The quicker he's gone the better.

Don't get me wrong, I wish he'd gone months ago.

Clarke sums it up about the whole saga "I'm bored!"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 03, 2013, 01:37:55 AM
Why hasn't Harry the wheeler dealer resurrected his interest in this player? After all, he has just spent £4m on Austin and is boasting about his plans to sign a number of new players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 03, 2013, 01:54:45 AM
Why hasn't Harry the wheeler dealer resurrected his interest in this player? After all, he has just spent £4m on Austin and is boasting about his plans to sign a number of new players.

The same terms will not be on offer so Redknapp knows it would be pointless, also why would they improve the offer they made in January (which we eventually rejected).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 03, 2013, 07:08:43 AM
I will miss the player but not the person, best striker we have had since Regis but far too much hassle off the pitch.
To mis quote Mcfly "its all about you, its all about you Peter!" :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 03, 2013, 08:45:25 AM
If no-one signs him very soon, anyone that does eventually is going to have a very unfit player on their hands at the start of the season, so his value must be reducing with each passing day. If we're not careful, he'll still be here on September 1st and we'll be looking at a mutually agreed termination of contract situation, as his continuing presence at the club would be toxic. If that happens, I'm sure more people would be questioning what we gained by not doing a deal with QPR in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 03, 2013, 08:48:36 AM
If no-one signs him very soon, anyone that does eventually is going to have a very unfit player on their hands at the start of the season, so his value must be reducing with each passing day. If we're not careful, he'll still be here on September 1st and we'll be looking at a mutually agreed termination of contract situation, as his continuing presence at the club would be toxic. If that happens, I'm sure more people would be questioning what we gained by not doing a deal with QPR in January.

And the answer is we gained the credibility of being seen as a club that stands its ground, refuses to give in to the childish demands of a spoilt player and won't be outmanoeuvred by a cheating, conniving spiv.

Apart from that...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 03, 2013, 09:03:30 AM
And the answer is we gained the credibility of being seen as a club that stands its ground, refuses to give in to the childish demands of a spoilt player and won't be outmanoeuvred by a cheating, conniving spiv.
With gaining that credibility ultimately having cost us £5m+ of course, meaning that we could have paid a good fee for another player, rather than negotiating with one hand tied behind our back by only being able to go for a loan or free transfer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 03, 2013, 09:11:38 AM
With gaining that credibility ultimately having cost us £5m+ of course, meaning that we could have paid a good fee for another player, rather than negotiating with one hand tied behind our back by only being able to go for a loan or free transfer.

So what would you have done bearing in mind that Clarke still felt that he needed to keep him in the squad even after the event?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on August 03, 2013, 09:15:14 AM
In the longer run we probably gain more in future dealings with agents and players, who will come to understand that we deal straight and expect the same in return.  They live in an increasingly international "bubble" and all talk to each other about different clubs and what to expect - see past comments from players who've joined us "Oh, I spoke to so-and-so and they said it would be a good move for me..."
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 03, 2013, 09:24:40 AM
In the longer run we probably gain more in future dealings with agents and players, who will come to understand that we deal straight and expect the same in return.  They live in an increasingly international "bubble" and all talk to each other about different clubs and what to expect - see past comments from players who've joined us "Oh, I spoke to so-and-so and they said it would be a good move for me..."

Most definitely correct. Our club operates, it seems, with integrity. That means something.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on August 03, 2013, 12:10:03 PM
I see dicwingie going near the end of transfer window and at a descent price with clubs that are near the bottom of league opting to buy him ie crystal palace, hull,Sunderland , Stoke , vile and qpr in Championship league oh and cardif :) ;) :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on August 03, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
With gaining that credibility ultimately having cost us £5m+ of course, meaning that we could have paid a good fee for another player, rather than negotiating with one hand tied behind our back by only being able to go for a loan or free transfer.
If it is a 5M loss now rather than being dicked about by every player who thinks he is better than us and does not respect the club, the supporters or the contract he has signed then I am happy to take the loss.  In the long run we will gain more than any monetary value we may have lost now.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: letmereadposts on August 03, 2013, 12:57:04 PM
If it is a 5M loss now rather than being dicked about by every player who thinks he is better than us and does not respect the club, the supporters or the contract he has signed then I am happy to take the loss.  In the long run we will gain more than any monetary value we may have lost now.

I've felt this for some while now. How a club is viewed plays a great part in the transfer process of a player.

If we build a reputation of prudence towards a club and/or player it sends the right message. If we gave in to Odemwingie we would have been more vulnerable to the potential sales of our other stars.

By acting the way we did it makes it harder for clubs to see us as easy pickings.

Nevertheless, the debacle hurt the club, as well as Peace's view towards his (once) prized asset.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 03, 2013, 02:23:24 PM
If it is a 5M loss now rather than being dicked about by every player who thinks he is better than us and does not respect the club, the supporters or the contract he has signed then I am happy to take the loss.  In the long run we will gain more than any monetary value we may have lost now.
I think things are too far gone now for agents in particular to alter their behaviour, so I can't see much likelihood of this changing the way agents act towards us. If we can't sell him, it will mean a lot of money spent on what could be nothing more than the moral high ground.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 03, 2013, 02:35:30 PM
If we can't sell him, it will mean a lot of money spent on what could be nothing more than the moral high ground.

It's more than that. if the club had let him go to QPR after Junior Hoillet had declined to come the other way, we would have had one man fewer at a time when numbers were already depleted.

Hindsight really is wonderful when it is used as a vehicle for learning how to do better next time. When used just to attack those faced with the decision at the time, it is almost worthless.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 03, 2013, 02:43:14 PM
It's more than that. if the club had let him go to QPR after Junior Hoillet had declined to come the other way, we would have had one man fewer at a time when numbers were already depleted.
It was never likely that Hoilett would come to us - what was in it for QPR or him? We had the whole window to sort out a replacement and it came down to Hoilett or bust on deadline day.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 03, 2013, 02:49:12 PM
It was never likely that Hoilett would come to us - what was in it for QPR or him? We had the whole window to sort out a replacement and it came down to Hoilett or bust on deadline day.

So you would have let Odemwingie go at 5 to midnight go without anyone coming the other way?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 03, 2013, 03:07:23 PM
So you would have let Odemwingie go at 5 to midnight go without anyone coming the other way?
We shouldn't have allowed ourselves to end up in that untenable position because of the brinkmanship that the Chairman has shown himself to be very fond of.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 03, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
We shouldn't have allowed ourselves to end up in that untenable position because of the brinkmanship that the Chairman has shown himself to be very fond of.

As I recall the whole thing was driven by PO and 'arry the spiv not JP so if there was a failure it could be said it was QPRs not WBAs.

However, you are welcome to the last word if you want it. Others will decide if they think we'd be in a better position if you had been making the decisions.  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 03, 2013, 04:16:34 PM
If it is a 5M loss now rather than being dicked about by every player who thinks he is better than us and does not respect the club, the supporters or the contract he has signed then I am happy to take the loss.  In the long run we will gain more than any monetary value we may have lost now.
You may be happy to take a 5m loss with somebody else's money but this could be the first business decision (with Albion) that JP has got wrong?
Our stance with pete will have zero bearing on how any current squad member or future signing sees us , plain and simple it's the contracts that decide their decisions.
Very easy for any fan to have thoughts on what we should/shouldn't spend , if anyone actually has the real money to play with may I encourage them to step forward?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slate on August 03, 2013, 08:24:15 PM
JP 100% made the correct decision with regards to Odemwingie. At the time we didn't have a replacement but most importantly he stuck to his principles and kept our club's dignity intact. Although in hindsight we may have lost some money at least now it has sent a message out that this club is no soft touch and players are expected to earn respect here.
Clubs such as west ham are an embarrassment, throwing money at everything and being linking with everything going just to court the press and make the back pages.
Proud to be a Baggie!  8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 03, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
JP 100% made the correct decision with regards to Odemwingie. At the time we didn't have a replacement but most importantly he stuck to his principles and kept our club's dignity intact. Although in hindsight we may have lost some money at least now it has sent a message out that this club is no soft touch and players are expected to earn respect here.
Clubs such as west ham are an embarrassment, throwing money at everything and being linking with everything going just to court the press and make the back pages.
Proud to be a Baggie!  8)

Absolutely spot on mate. Totally agree with everything you say.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
JP 100% made the correct decision with regards to Odemwingie. At the time we didn't have a replacement but most importantly he stuck to his principles and kept our club's dignity intact. Although in hindsight we may have lost some money at least now it has sent a message out that this club is no soft touch and players are expected to earn respect here.
Clubs such as west ham are an embarrassment, throwing money at everything and being linking with everything going just to court the press and make the back pages.
Proud to be a Baggie!  8)
again very easy to say when its not your cash ??
You said it was the right call firstly because we had no replacement, how many times did he play afterwards?
I am a great fan of JP, but has I said previously his stance on Odemwingie will have no bearing at all on any player joining or indeed any current players wishing to leave.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 04, 2013, 11:48:51 AM

You said it was the right call firstly because we had no replacement, how many times did he play afterwards?

He would have played or been a substitute afterwards if he hadn't continued to twitter and upset everybody all over again. The fans then turned on him big time and made it virtually impossible for Clarke to send him on the pitch.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 04, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
So what are we going to do with Pete?,part of me says wish we all could kiss and make up , (no argument about his scoring record ) and would love to see him team up with Anelka but the other side after his indiscipline towards the club well can't see anyway back . Would be interesting to have a poll and see the percentage of how many would want him to stay
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 04, 2013, 12:38:05 PM
So what are we going to do with Pete?,part of me says wish we all could kiss and make up , (no argument about his scoring record ) and would love to see him team up with Anelka but the other side after his indiscipline towards the club well can't see anyway back . Would be interesting to have a poll and see the percentage of how many would want him to stay

Makes no odds what we think SC has made his mind up, and rightly so IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 04, 2013, 01:10:04 PM
Makes no odds what we think SC has made his mind up, and rightly so IMO.

I totally agree.

Unlike most clubs, this club has principles and is a far better club for sticking to those principles.

I would be very disappointed if Odemwingie ever kicks a ball for this club again, even it means him rotting away for the last year of his contract.   His behaviour was despicable, and although no worse than several other examples at other clubs who didn't have the balls to enforce any principles, we've got it right.

If it means that we scare off any similar characters from signing for us, then that's a huge plus.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 04, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
I totally agree.

Unlike most clubs, this club has principles and is a far better club for sticking to those principles.

I would be very disappointed if Odemwingie ever kicks a ball for this club again, even it means him rotting away for the last year of his contract.   His behaviour was despicable, and although no worse than several other examples at other clubs who didn't have the balls to enforce any principles, we've got it right.

If it means that we scare off any similar characters from signing for us, then that's a huge plus.

Even if we can't sell him he should be easy to loan out to at least get him off the wage bill. Plenty would have him abroad, I'm thinking Turkish teams. So I'd doubt he will rot in the reserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: THROSTLE79 on August 04, 2013, 01:47:05 PM
Agree 100% ! Never want him to play for us again . He infuriates me so badly by taking all the headlines ( and squad harmony ) away from our beloved Albion who gave him his chance to succeed again .
If there is any chance of us swapping him for Hoilett let's do it now even if it costs us a few quid !
We need players to affect the first 11 , not play with the under -21's ESPECIALLY when he's a top-earner .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 04, 2013, 02:41:51 PM
I look at the Liverpool fans reaction to Luis Suarez yesterday and it just makes me feel Albion fans are so small-time.

Arguably the things reported about Suarez (threats of court etc) combined with his conduct that they (the fans) have stuck by him through are a lot worse than anything Odemwingie has done.

Yet they recognise him as their best player and try vocally to support him, make him change his mind and stay. Whereas we make Peter a black sheep and alienate him, tying our head coaches hands (taking his most potent weapon away).

Think Pietersen, think Tevez. It's time to re-integrate Peter Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on August 04, 2013, 02:54:26 PM
He did get reintegrated then he started slagging the club off again, including the manager. It's more "small time" (whatever that means in this situation) to think a player is bigger than the club, he's good but he's not as good as you seem to think he is. You can't seriously suggest that when Odemwingie went off on one about being on the bench that Clarke should have started him, surely? How weak would that have looked?

Key difference is Tevez and particularly Pietersen seemed to at least publically accept they were wrong, and didn't repeat their behaviour, Odemwingie did. Tevez was never anywhere near the level he was prior to his strikes as well, clearly his performances dropped post strike.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 04, 2013, 02:56:19 PM
Small time?

No we are not in thrall to someone who thinks he is bigger than the club.

I'd guess that makes LFC fans small time if the lying, cheating, biting scum bag that is Suarez is so important to them.

You are, however, entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 02:58:50 PM
Slag the head coach whilst declaring his love for another, slags the fans on social media despite being told to stay off the site and ignoring that request, history of issues with other coaches when he doesn't get what he wants, yeah lets kiss the blokes backside and forgive him shall we ?

Another reactionary post from Mr Jacko on WestBrom.com
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 04, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
I look at the Liverpool fans reaction to Luis Suarez yesterday and it just makes me feel Albion fans are so small-time.

Arguably the things reported about Suarez (threats of court etc) combined with his conduct that they (the fans) have stuck by him through are a lot worse than anything Odemwingie has done.

Yet they recognise him as their best player and try vocally to support him, make him change his mind and stay. Whereas we make Peter a black sheep and alienate him, tying our head coaches hands (taking his most potent weapon away).

Think Pietersen, think Tevez. It's time to re-integrate Peter Odemwingie.

Sorry but that's rubbish. Just how badly does a player have to behave before he becomes accountable?

Fans who think that way have no moral standards whatsoever. Any sort of bad behaviour is forgiven if the player is a star player. Its precisely what's wrong with football today. 

Odemwingie has a flaw in his character which means that he will do whatever it takes to engineer a move.  He was told not to carry on tweeting but ignored it.

Players are employed by the club, not the other way around.  Those who think they are bigger than the game, and there are many of them, can bu**er off as far as I'm concerned.

Its no surprise that other clubs aren't rushing to sign Odemwingie. He's trouble with a capital T.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 04, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
I look at the Liverpool fans reaction to Luis Suarez yesterday and it just makes me feel Albion fans are so small-time.

Arguably the things reported about Suarez (threats of court etc) combined with his conduct that they (the fans) have stuck by him through are a lot worse than anything Odemwingie has done.

Yet they recognise him as their best player and try vocally to support him, make him change his mind and stay. Whereas we make Peter a black sheep and alienate him, tying our head coaches hands (taking his most potent weapon away).

Think Pietersen, think Tevez. It's time to re-integrate Peter Odemwingie.

Nearly all the reaction I have seen to the Liverpool fans has been mocking and critical. They have decided that the way to react to one of their players dragging their club through the mud is to blindly support him once again. Their pathetic love-in with Suarez has made them the laughing stock of all the fans in the country.

I hate everything about Man Utd, but on one thing I completely agree with them. No one player can ever be bigger than the club. The way Ferguson used to deal with players who developed an overinflated opinion of themselves was exemplary; Stam, Beckham, Van Nistelrooy - all were dispensed with for the benefit of the club as a whole.

Odemwingie was one of my favourite players. I remember backing him, along with yourself, when others doubted his worth to the club in the past. However, his behaviour during the past season was an outrage. He was reintegrated back into the first team but threw that trust back into the faces of our management team. Personally, I have lost all respect for the man and would be disgusted if he ever had the honour of putting on the blue and white stripes in the future.

If taking a stand against a parasite like Odemwingie makes us 'small time' then I'd much rather be that than applauding a scum bag just because he happens to be a talented player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 04, 2013, 03:13:51 PM
The day I want our fans to turn into Liverpool supporters is the day I will go and support someone else.

I still find it bemusing and also disgusting that certain members on here still feel it necessary to support Odemwingie after what hes said about the fans, club and management.

As overseas baggie has said its no suprise no-one has made a serious bid for him yet, even dirty harry has distanced himself.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on August 04, 2013, 03:16:56 PM
Is anybody else like me really cheesed off with this . The sooner he is gone the better . Anybody sticking up for him should go and follow those lot down the road . Any other industry he would have had the sack .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
Sorry but that's rubbish. Just how badly does a player have to behave before he becomes accountable?

Fans who think that way have no moral standards whatsoever. Any sort of bad behaviour is forgiven if the player is a star player. Its precisely what's wrong with football today. 
and west brom alone will not change this?

Odemwingie has a flaw in his character which means that he will do whatever it takes to engineer a move.  He was told not to carry on tweeting but ignored it.
We are not privy to the full discussion between Peter and the club?

Players are employed by the club, not the other way around.  Those who think they are bigger than the game, and there are many of them, can bu**er off as far as I'm concerned.
Kindly pay up their contracts and they might?

Its no surprise that other clubs aren't rushing to sign Odemwingie. He's trouble with a capital T.
many are , in fact Ibrahimavic, Messi Ronaldo and Tevez have all on occasion been rumoured to cause problems , would you not sign them on a moral stance and stick with "honest pros" with very little natural ability?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 04, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
I look at the Liverpool fans reaction to Luis Suarez yesterday and it just makes me feel Albion fans are so small-time.

Arguably the things reported about Suarez (threats of court etc) combined with his conduct that they (the fans) have stuck by him through are a lot worse than anything Odemwingie has done.

Yet they recognise him as their best player and try vocally to support him, make him change his mind and stay. Whereas we make Peter a black sheep and alienate him, tying our head coaches hands (taking his most potent weapon away).

Think Pietersen, think Tevez. It's time to re-integrate Peter Odemwingie.
As far as I'm aware Suarez hasn't opened his mouth directly on Twitter or to the press at every opportunity unlike Saint Peter , we didn't make Pete a black sheep he did that himself despite Steve Clarke leaving the door open for him to return probably longer than he should have done.
As i posted elsewhere in this thread i will miss the player but not the person and I'm not convinced you can reintegrate someone who clearly does not want to be here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 04, 2013, 03:45:39 PM
IMO What Koumas did was a lot worse yet he came back into the side and was accepted by the majority.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 04, 2013, 04:07:07 PM


Ridiculous comments.

The stand against player power has to start somewhere.  At least this club is prepared to do what's right.

I know who I believe, based on what is evident.

Paying up a player's contract is exactly what NOT to do.  That's playing completely into their hands. They get a lucrative move if they do well, and they get rewarded by a lucrative move if they can engineer a move. Ridiculous.

Of those players, only Tevez in my view has done anything like Odemwingie.  I have no time at all for the parasitic morons like Tevez, Suarez, Barton etc, yet they get rewarded time after time for their antics.

Respect to the Albion for standing up to Odemwingie. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 04, 2013, 04:14:34 PM
Ridiculous comments.

The stand against player power has to start somewhere.  At least this club is prepared to do what's right.

I know who I believe, based on what is evident.

Paying up a player's contract is exactly what NOT to do.  That's playing completely into their hands. They get a lucrative move if they do well, and they get rewarded by a lucrative move if they can engineer a move. Ridiculous.

Of those players, only Tevez in my view has done anything like Odemwingie.  I have no time at all for the parasitic morons like Tevez, Suarez, Barton etc, yet they get rewarded time after time for their antics.

Respect to the Albion for standing up to Odemwingie.

Because with the likes of tevez, suarez, barton etc.. ther clubs fans know they are good players and regardless of the players attitudes off the pitch, they are great on the pitch and they know that their  teams are better WITH them.

But the majority of Albion fans would rather push away a quality player that scores a decent amount of goals than get behind him and make him feel wanted. Would you want to be at a club with a bunch of fans that boo'd you when warming up or when you was on the pitch?

Its OK saying Pete is this and that and get rid of him... but none of you are going to replace him! we need quality players and goals, not a chairman who shows hes boss and stands up to players like a few people have said hes done!

I can really see pete going to another prem club and scoring against us this season, Give the small minded fans something else to hate him for.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on August 04, 2013, 04:21:22 PM
Blimey I can't believe there's even a debate on this ( of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions) but my good god, if I had treated my employers like that it would be a verbal warning  a written warning then out the bloody door! I think the club have handled this pretty damn good, they haven't caved in and have shown who is in charge ( which they are!)
I felt sorry for him for a while after the whole qpr saga but how he disrespected the club and fans is a whole different level. I hope someone comes in a pays what we are asking soon that's for sure, if not let him tweet as much as he like from the stands.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 04, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
Because with the likes of tevez, suarez, barton etc.. ther clubs fans know they are good players and regardless of the players attitudes off the pitch, they are great on the pitch and they know that their  teams are better WITH them.

But the majority of Albion fans would rather push away a quality player that scores a decent amount of goals than get behind him and make him feel wanted. Would you want to be at a club with a bunch of fans that boo'd you when warming up or when you was on the pitch?

Its OK saying Pete is this and that and get rid of him... but none of you are going to replace him! we need quality players and goals, not a chairman who shows hes boss and stands up to players like a few people have said hes done!

I can really see pete going to another prem club and scoring against us this season, Give the small minded fans something else to hate him for.

I cannot believe what I am reading. This is hilarious.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on August 04, 2013, 04:30:26 PM
Where do you draw the line though? it came out that in pretty much every transfer window since he joined he had an interest from Wigan, Newcastle and Rubin Kazan and said he was unsettled but 'stayed loyal'.

Just say we did integrate him back in somehow, what happens in 3 x months when he has a hissy fit again and we start with the whole 'world is against him, its everybodys else fault, he is been forced to lead such a hard life, etc, etc'

If it was a one off from Odemwingie then i think most people would say mistakes happen, another chance, we move on. However there was clearly some issue with Roy Hodgson, Hodgson made public comments questioning him (which maybe says something about Odemwingie as i dont recall Roy doing that about anyone else) there was the transfer speculation stated top of this post, and then the whole January sage, was somebody else always in the wrong on those occasions and he is just unlucky, or was it maybe Pete himself to blame too? I dont see any of our other players coming out with the rubbish he has.

Nobody has one doubted he is a good player, good but not great, but you have to have standards and sometimes say enough is enough, on a moral front i am glad we have took the stance, sets the bar for future stuff.

As a player he is good, but to me he isnt worth the hassle he brings, its not a first for him, he has done it at nearly every club he has been at, if he had apologised and meant it then i think you can maybe look to move on, but he has never apologised (which i have said previous i do respect him for because he clearly wouldnt mean if it he said, he isnt sorry and isnt pretending he is) but if i was him i would look in the mirror and ask were all those other clubs wrong? were Albion wrong? Or just maybe ask is he also in the wrong?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on August 04, 2013, 04:48:07 PM
How can anybody stick up for a player , who has behaved like him is unbelievable . This is from someone on 40k a week . He has insulted his employers , the fans and the tradition of the club . Like i say bugger off down the road if you want bad behaviour .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 04, 2013, 04:54:17 PM
Slag the head coach whilst declaring his love for another, slags the fans on social media despite being told to stay off the site and ignoring that request, history of issues with other coaches when he doesn't get what he wants, yeah lets kiss the blokes backside and forgive him shall we ?

Another reactionary post from Mr Jacko on WestBrom.com

Yes that is exactly what we should do mate, especially if Kalou doesn't materialise, although he has never said a word against Albion fans except to one idiot in the Halford's Lane, but keep perpetuating the myth if you like.

My post isn't reactionary at all, I saw the reception Suarez got yesterday from one of the best groups of supporters in the world and it made me think of Odemwingie getting booed in warm-ups, people fighting in the stands over booing/applauding. My post was about our fans, not our club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on August 04, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Whatever any of us thinks he ISN´T going to play for us again thus its time he was gone as every day he remains his value decreases because teams will be aware we want him out and by the end of the window will be forced into considering every offer. Whatever JP says he wants the longer it drags on the more it becomes a buyers market >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 05:11:31 PM
Yes that is exactly what we should do mate, especially if Kalou doesn't materialise, although he has never said a word against Albion fans except to one idiot in the Halford's Lane, but keep perpetuating the myth if you like.

My post isn't reactionary at all, I saw the reception Suarez got yesterday from one of the best groups of supporters in the world and it made me think of Odemwingie getting booed in warm-ups, people fighting in the stands over booing/applauding. My post was about our fans, not our club.

No myth at all but you will not allow one word said against the bloke, I dread to think how far you would allow him to go before you consider his position at the club untenable.

I couldn't give a stuff about Liverpool fans and how hypocritical they are, same as villa fans now kissing the backside of Benteke weeks after absolutely slating him for wanting to go, means nowt to me.

I have never booed him, never will I wouldn't waste the energy on him even if he comes back with another club. I expect loyalty from no-one in football but I do expect professionalism and acting with dignity. The club have probably been at fault somewhere but still acted with dignity and kept their counsel away from the press, the player however has acted like a spoilt brat.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on August 04, 2013, 05:59:06 PM
Old bury old chap . Top post . Totally agree.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stubba on August 04, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
here here!!!
Old bury old chap . Top post . Totally agree.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: leeiswba on August 04, 2013, 06:09:40 PM
Wheres the self respect of some people?

This is a bloke who was doing everything he could possibly do to get out of this club and he couldn't have care less how he did it, he basically pooh on the club and the shirt without a care in the world about anyone but himself.

If all was forgot then it just tells every player that they can do what they want, dis respect the blue and white stripes and West Bromwich Albion football club as they like and us as the fans who should be sticking up for the club won't!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 04, 2013, 06:11:23 PM
All this rubbish about 'would you stop at a club where mindless idiots are booinfg you' is irrelevant he was hero worshipped until he decided to belittle the club as a whole on twitter.

Tell you what, try doing what he did on twitter with your employers and see what happens?

Some people need to grow up and realise that certain reactions cause consequences and this time the reaction was sparked by the player not the fans.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 04, 2013, 06:11:45 PM
Yes that is exactly what we should do mate, especially if Kalou doesn't materialise, although he has never said a word against Albion fans except to one idiot in the Halford's Lane, but keep perpetuating the myth if you like.

My post isn't reactionary at all, I saw the reception Suarez got yesterday from one of the best groups of supporters in the world and it made me think of Odemwingie getting booed in warm-ups, people fighting in the stands over booing/applauding. My post was about our fans, not our club.

He was moaning about the fans on twatter - fans who had given him another chance after he had made a mockery of our great club on the last day of the transfer window.

As for Liverpool fans: you clearly have some link to Liverpool as you're always first to stick up for them. Remember it's just you're opinion that they're some of the best fans in the world - many others disagree. How about the burning of Gerrard shirts when he was linked with Chelsea? When Suarez leaves, as he inevitably will, the Liverpool fans will quickly change their tune.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 04, 2013, 06:13:21 PM
If it were a straight choice between being relegated or having Odemwingie back I would choose relegation without hesitation, but lets face it that is not a realistic choice because he is not that good, few players are. Too often star players are forgiven by fans for their indiscretions on and off the pitch because of their perceived worth to the team which for the most part is overstated by fans and media alike.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie Artist on August 04, 2013, 06:19:26 PM
Surely dignity and respect is a two way process? Firstly the club should have recognised Odemwingie's contribution for us in the past, that he was deeply unsettled, fallen out of favour and at least explored the possibility of letting him go.

Instead we made no effort to seek out a replacement for him or to negotiate with QPR, holding out to the last minute to eek out an extra bit of cash with the view that if we didn't get him everything would be alright again and Odemwingie would be the same as he was before. That's the actions of a club looking totally after it's own self interest, the exact same thing Odemwingie is accused of for trying to force a move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 06:28:21 PM
Surely dignity and respect is a two way process? Firstly the club should have recognised Odemwingie's contribution for us in the past, that he was deeply unsettled, fallen out of favour and at least explored the possibility of letting him go.

Instead we made no effort to seek out a replacement for him or to negotiate with QPR, holding out to the last minute to eek out an extra bit of cash with the view that if we didn't get him everything would be alright again and Odemwingie would be the same as he was before. That's the actions of a club looking totally after it's own self interest, the exact same thing Odemwingie is accused of for trying to force a move.

We tried to get Hoilett as part of the deal. How do we get a replacement given the lack of time ? The club have every right to look after their own self interest, the player was under that well paid contract he was so willing to commit to when he was not long into that previous well paid contract he was so willing to sign previously fter we rescued him from that 'hell-hole' he was in before where he also upset those fans as well as his internationals colleagues and coaching staff. Common theme well developed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 04, 2013, 06:35:23 PM
And people still insist on defending this idiot. We've got some budding PR officers on this site for sure.

This man is everything that is rotten about modern day footballers. I can't bring myself to utter another word about him.

I'm out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 04, 2013, 07:17:33 PM


There are people on this site who will argue until they are blue in the face not only in defence of their hero but also in defence of their mindsets. They will even try to re-write history as an alternative to attempting some rational thoughts.

Lets just just leave this thread to the Odd emwingiites so they can tell each other how wonderful he is and how awful the club is for not letting him (and 'arry the spiv at QPR) walk all over us all. Maybe with luck they'll persuade themselves to go and support the club that he will eventually join.


 I can't bring myself to utter another word about him.


Me neither! Enough's enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on August 04, 2013, 07:24:13 PM
Surely regarding respect been a two way thing, certainly transfer wise, we did our bit.

We told QPR what we wanted which by all accounts was £4m, not bad for a proven premiership scorer, they have just paid £4.5m for a championship striker in Charlie Austin, we placed a value, they didnt meet it, thats not Albions fault, if QPR had then they would of got him, so i dont see how Albion disrespected him there.

As somebody above said, i am sure Albion probably wasnt faultless in all this, but surely the way they went about getting him involved with the squad again, only for him to throw it back in the faces and pretty much make the coaches position impossible to pick him would show Odemwingie was by far the biggest idiot in all this?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on August 04, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
Yes that is exactly what we should do mate, especially if Kalou doesn't materialise, although he has never said a word against Albion fans except to one idiot in the Halford's Lane, but keep perpetuating the myth if you like.

My post isn't reactionary at all, I saw the reception Suarez got yesterday from one of the best groups of supporters in the world and it made me think of Odemwingie getting booed in warm-ups, people fighting in the stands over booing/applauding. My post was about our fans, not our club.

There were two 'idiots' in the Halford's lane that day then, because I was calling him a w*nker too, directly behind the said 'idiot'.
Whingie has to go, there is no defending him or his actions, great player or not. You need to wake up if you think it's acceptable for him to be even near our team again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie53 on August 04, 2013, 07:47:35 PM
A little bit off topic, but 'Arry was up to his tricks again on Sky Sports, talking about another clubs player and how he ought to go to Real Madrid
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on August 04, 2013, 07:54:11 PM
There were two 'idiots' in the Halford's lane that day then, because I was calling him a w*nker too, directly behind the said 'idiot'.
Whingie has to go, there is no defending him or his actions, great player or not. You need to wake up if you think it's acceptable for him to be even near our team again.
spot on mate! i cant believe we are still discussing this t!!t.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on August 04, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
I'm right behind JP and the club on this. My last memory of PO in live action was watching him
shooting completely selfishly from 40 yards out when there were players unmarked in goalscoring
positions. The guy is only interested in himself. However he has got a value in the transfer
market and we are entitled to recover that. I wonder if Harry is still interested in him. Maybe
Hoilett would have  change of heart as part of an exchange.
As for Liverpool and Suarez, I hope he stays, as I don't particularly like Liverpool. He misses a  big
chunk of their season anyway, and I think he will be a marked man with most refs. so we can
expect more red cards and more suspensions! Their supporters are obviously blind to the type
of unsporting player that he is, as was Dalgliesh and Rogers to some extent the way he has
defended him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on August 04, 2013, 08:14:02 PM
I saw numerous new posts in this topic and though we'd finally sold the toss pot; but alas no, a few more pages of posts saying we should get rid of him and he's unforgivable.

Even when the cretin finally does leave I couldn't give two shakes about it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 04, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Can anyone see any other club wanting to pay anything for him though? surely his attitude off the pitch will put clubs off.. unless he goes to qpr who will sign anyone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bangkok Baggie on August 04, 2013, 08:33:48 PM
Been going up the Albion for 35+ years now and although I wasn’t brought up in West Bromwich, I have a passion about the club that immersed itself within me from the age of eight, when I first got a season ticket in the Brummie. Since that time I’ve become familiar with the humour and banter of Albion fans as well as experience other sets of fans when going with mates who support other teams. I must say, to those who are becoming more than frustrated with the likes of Jacko2000 and Zippyandbungle, especially with regard to this ‘topic’, please don’t fret; we have wonderful supporters and I for one am very proud of the club I love and the vast majority of fans who are with me on issues such as ‘this’. Please don’t let it get you down when numptys comment with scant regard for the feelings of decent folk who take pride in their club, standing up to mercenaries like the guy in question here. Let’s cheer all the more louder for the likes of Foster, Jones, Morrisson, Mulumbu, Yacob, Long etc. when they take to the pitch on the 17th … you know, players that have dignity and respect for the club we love. The ‘idiot’.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 04, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
I've said all along he'll end up going on loan somewhere late in the window. Lets hope it doesn't hamper our chances of bringing in new players as I suspect we really need the money and to free up his wage beforehand.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie Artist on August 04, 2013, 09:08:57 PM
Quote
I'm right behind JP and the club on this. My last memory of PO in live action was watching him
shooting completely selfishly from 40 yards out when there were players unmarked in goalscoring
positions. The guy is only interested in himself.

If he had been sold in January like he should have been, your last memory of him would have been him saving us from defeat at home to Aston Villa. Note that despite being the subject of a move QPR, he was still the player to come out of the game against our biggest rivals in the league with the most credit.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 09:17:08 PM
Been going up the Albion for 35+ years now and although I wasn’t brought up in West Bromwich, I have a passion about the club that immersed itself within me from the age of eight, when I first got a season ticket in the Brummie. Since that time I’ve become familiar with the humour and banter of Albion fans as well as experience other sets of fans when going with mates who support other teams. I must say, to those who are becoming more than frustrated with the likes of Jacko2000 and Zippyandbungle, especially with regard to this ‘topic’, please don’t fret; we have wonderful supporters and I for one am very proud of the club I love and the vast majority of fans who are with me on issues such as ‘this’. Please don’t let it get you down when numptys comment with scant regard for the feelings of decent folk who take pride in their club, standing up to mercenaries like the guy in question here. Let’s cheer all the more louder for the likes of Foster, Jones, Morrisson, Mulumbu, Yacob, Long etc. when they take to the pitch on the 17th … you know, players that have dignity and respect for the club we love. The ‘idiot’.
Just a couple of things
Firstly if you would like to call me a numpty do it the old fashioned way to my face?

Now many other things to get through .
Your post above says you are proud of the vast majority of fans that are with you, it's nice that you can be so selective, I on the other hand respect all views, I may not agree they may turn out not to be correct or misinformed but whilst we are on a forum that welcomes open honest debate should we all not be able to put our point of view across?
Additionally.....I am NOT defending mr Odemwingie , what I have been trying to get across is this
A) NoN of us were involved in any of the meetings between club and player so cannot say with certainty what was said.
B) like him or not he did have a massive part to play in establishing us in the premiership.
C) by not allowing the transfer in jan (wrong or right) it has probably cost the club financially
D)the stance we took will probably not have any bearing on any player coming and/or playing for us , or their contract negotiations.
E) bigger players have built bridges in the past
F) people keep quoting dignity and loyalty, if you really believe there is much of it left in football , prepare to be let down.
G) just a little one but valuable, after the whole debacle , when 0-2 down to villa at home, did his introduction not change the match?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
If he had been sold in January like he should have been, your last memory of him would have been him saving us from defeat at home to Aston Villa. Note that despite being the subject of a move QPR, he was still the player to come out of the game against our biggest rivals in the league with the most credit.
Ha ha , posted at the same time , see my last point :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on August 04, 2013, 09:25:45 PM
Just a couple of things
Firstly if you would like to call me a numpty do it the old fashioned way to my face?

Now many other things to get through .
Your post above says you are proud of the vast majority of fans that are with you, it's nice that you can be so selective, I on the other hand respect all views, I may not agree they may turn out not to be correct or misinformed but whilst we are on a forum that welcomes open honest debate should we all not be able to put our point of view across?
Additionally.....I am NOT defending mr Odemwingie , what I have been trying to get across is this
A) NoN of us were involved in any of the meetings between club and player so cannot say with certainty what was said.
B) like him or not he did have a massive part to play in establishing us in the premiership.
C) by not allowing the transfer in jan (wrong or right) it has probably cost the club financially
D)the stance we took will probably not have any bearing on any player coming and/or playing for us , or their contract negotiations.
E) bigger players have built bridges in the past
F) people keep quoting dignity and loyalty, if you really believe there is much of it left in football , prepare to be let down.
G) just a little one but valuable, after the whole debacle , when 0-2 down to villa at home, did his introduction not change the match?

Point G) not sure what you mean "after the whole debacle"

The game against Vile was almost two weeks before the deadline day farce.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 04, 2013, 09:27:37 PM
If anything could possibly make this boring off season any more boring it is a rehash of flogging the maggoty dead horse that is the corpse of PO's career at WBA.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 09:34:11 PM
Point G) not sure what you mean "after the whole debacle"

The game against Vile was almost two weeks before the deadline day farce.
At that point he had already been "approached"and had spoken with the club re being allowed a move?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 04, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
Been going up the Albion for 35+ years now and although I wasn’t brought up in West Bromwich, I have a passion about the club that immersed itself within me from the age of eight, when I first got a season ticket in the Brummie. Since that time I’ve become familiar with the humour and banter of Albion fans as well as experience other sets of fans when going with mates who support other teams. I must say, to those who are becoming more than frustrated with the likes of Jacko2000 and Zippyandbungle, especially with regard to this ‘topic’, please don’t fret; we have wonderful supporters and I for one am very proud of the club I love and the vast majority of fans who are with me on issues such as ‘this’. Please don’t let it get you down when numptys comment with scant regard for the feelings of decent folk who take pride in their club, standing up to mercenaries like the guy in question here. Let’s cheer all the more louder for the likes of Foster, Jones, Morrisson, Mulumbu, Yacob, Long etc. when they take to the pitch on the 17th … you know, players that have dignity and respect for the club we love. The ‘idiot’.

Shame you didn't get behind the head coach who clearly needed/wanted to introduce Odemwingie and your actions made that impossible. Decent people would want what's best for the team on that day surely? Like I said my problem is not with the club it is with what you call "the vast majority of fans" who can't see beyond the end of their noses. Which is how they like it as they are quite happy to cut them off to spite their faces.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on August 04, 2013, 09:52:29 PM
Shame you didn't get behind the head coach who clearly needed/wanted to introduce Odemwingie and your actions made that impossible. Decent people would want what's best for the team on that day surely? Like I said my problem is not with the club it is with what you call "the vast majority of fans" who can't see beyond the end of their noses. Which is how they like it as they are quite happy to cut them off to spite their faces.

Thousands of people were rightfully venting their anger at PO before the little altercation at the front of the Halfords, are they all not decent too? I actually clapped him when he ran out, but as soon as I heard him offering to 'see you outside' to a fellow fan that was the final straw for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 09:54:30 PM
Thousands of people were rightfully venting their anger at PO before the little altercation at the front of the Halfords, are they all not decent too? I actually clapped him when he ran out, but as soon as I heard him offering to 'see you outside' to a fellow fan that was the final straw for me.
Regardless of what you earn, if someone gives you enough abuse it's very hard to remain calm?
He was wrong to lose it but was he the only one?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bangkok Baggie on August 04, 2013, 10:02:39 PM
Just a couple of things
Firstly if you would like to call me a numpty do it the old fashioned way to my face?

Now many other things to get through .
Your post above says you are proud of the vast majority of fans that are with you, it's nice that you can be so selective, I on the other hand respect all views, I may not agree they may turn out not to be correct or misinformed but whilst we are on a forum that welcomes open honest debate should we all not be able to put our point of view across?
Additionally.....I am NOT defending mr Odemwingie , what I have been trying to get across is this
A) NoN of us were involved in any of the meetings between club and player so cannot say with certainty what was said.
B) like him or not he did have a massive part to play in establishing us in the premiership.
C) by not allowing the transfer in jan (wrong or right) it has probably cost the club financially
D)the stance we took will probably not have any bearing on any player coming and/or playing for us , or their contract negotiations.
E) bigger players have built bridges in the past
F) people keep quoting dignity and loyalty, if you really believe there is much of it left in football , prepare to be let down.
G) just a little one but valuable, after the whole debacle , when 0-2 down to villa at home, did his introduction not change the match?

There are some well considered thoughts there, but misguided, as many people have pointed out in previous posts. I appreciate diverse and constructive debate, but surely, I'm with the majority here; or would you like to conduct a private poll? I'm at the Vine mate about 1.30pm before the kick off on the 17th. I'll be either at the bar or chuffing down a Guinness nearby - I'm sure you'll recognise me! I'll say whatever to your face, no qualms; I'll even buy you a pint if you're not as prickly as you come across on here. You gave me a bunch of stick before and I found it hard to swallow. We obviously both want Albion to progress, but have different ideas on how the club should conduct itself. I'm the mad-looking fker by the way and I'll be wearing black. Can you bring Jacko with you too? :) As a postscript, I'd just like to point out, that this issue has been so divisive and negative. Surely his departure will come as some relief to you if you care about the club?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 10:08:07 PM
Lads, can we cut the personal stuff and say it to my face type stuff. Not wanted, needed or accepted on here so enough of that. I'm sure you don't want us to start banning people due to what can be taken as threats on an online forum ??

As for zippy, I do know him and he is one of the best I have met on this site even though I disagree with him over this on every level.  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bangkok Baggie on August 04, 2013, 10:18:50 PM
Apologies Oldbury. I’m sure me and Zippy would get on fine in a convivial environment like The Vine just before the match, but on here, things perhaps come across as too strong sometimes. Sorry for my part anyway and I’m just buzzed up for the season ahead. Can’t wait.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 04, 2013, 10:29:07 PM
Can we have a new thread where rumours pertaining to PO joining another club are listed so that people who are not utterly bored of this discussion don't have to keep reading pages and pages of this pointlessly repeating debate?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 10:31:36 PM
Can we have a new thread where rumours pertaining to PO joining another club are listed so that people who are not utterly bored of this discussion don't have to keep reading pages and pages of this pointlessly repeating debate?

I think the problem is there are no rumours, hopefully as we move closer to the deadline things will start happening and the issues are resolved.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 10:35:03 PM
Lads, can we cut the personal stuff and say it to my face type stuff. Not wanted, needed or accepted on here so enough of that. I'm sure you don't want us to start banning people due to what can be taken as threats on an online forum ??

As for zippy, I do know him and he is one of the best I have met on this site even though I disagree with him over this on every level.  :D
Well he started it  :D :D
I don't recall giving bangok any stick (that's prince Phillips job) if I did I'm sorry, but I do object to being called a numpty?
Bangok , I will gladly come and converse with you in the vine , when you say mad and wearing black , can you narrow it down a bit?
Ill be easy to spot this year france 2010 shirt anelka 39 (cue half of wilenhall stalking me) , I can't agree it's best he's gone, I genuinely think we are weaker without him, I'd add that kalou is not the answer (he won't play wide) and the other "wingers " so far mentioned do not score enough, the only replacement I can see (goals/central/wide/price range) would be huzti ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 10:37:52 PM
I think the problem is there are no rumours, hopefully as we move closer to the deadline things will start happening and the issues are resolved.
Cardiff/palace the team in UAE?, there will be interest the biggest problem is due to the "situation" :D clubs will assume we will be almost willing to give him away, and will be aware that we will probably want him off the wage bill to cove one/two of our loanee s wages?
My money is he will buy out the rest of his contract and go on a free.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 04, 2013, 10:39:52 PM
As for zippy, I do know him and he is one of the best I have met on this site even though I disagree with him over this on every level.  :D

Thanks , I'm filling up here you soft sod.
Brunty for CM  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 04, 2013, 10:43:09 PM
I think the problem is there are no rumours, hopefully as we move closer to the deadline things will start happening and the issues are resolved.

Cheers for replying but the point I'm making is that if there are no rumours there won't be a new tag and I won't have to look. This (pointless) thread has a new tag every time I'm on and then I have to read through post after post that I e heard before a 1000 times. I'm not changing my mind and neither is anyone else. So leave people to debate why he is the saviour of our club or the devil incarnate until
They are blue in the face and everyone else can just open a thread when there is something of INTEREST to them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 10:50:49 PM
Cheers for replying but the point I'm making is that if there are no rumours there won't be a new tag and I won't have to look. This (pointless) thread has a new tag every time I'm on and then I have to read through post after post that I e heard before a 1000 times. I'm not changing my mind and neither is anyone else. So leave people to debate why he is the saviour of our club or the devil incarnate until
They are blue in the face and everyone else can just open a thread when there is something of INTEREST to them.

Its difficult, i'm with you, i'm not changing my opinion no matter what arguments get thrown at me but I don't want multiple topics about the same thing which is what will happen as has happened before. Maybe when the new rumours start we'll see what can be done then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 04, 2013, 10:51:54 PM

Thanks , I'm filling up here you soft sod.
Brunty for CM  :D

You had to spoil it  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 04, 2013, 11:03:18 PM
And the last few pages are precisely why he needs to go. A split between the fan base which is an unwelcome distraction. A potential legend who will be remembered as nothing more than a mercenary. Such a shame but in today's football world, nothing surprises me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slate on August 05, 2013, 08:06:03 AM
again very easy to say when its not your cash ??
You said it was the right call firstly because we had no replacement, how many times did he play afterwards?
I am a great fan of JP, but has I said previously his stance on Odemwingie will have no bearing at all on any player joining or indeed any current players wishing to leave.

I'm sorry, you are indeed right. It's not actually my money. If Lukaku would have got injured then Clarke would have been forced to play Odemwingie. I completely disagree with your last sentence. The club's reputation is important and our stance has been widely covered and admired in the media.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on August 05, 2013, 08:09:15 AM
On the contrary, the last few pages have been a welcome relief from the usual mundane posts & if I wasn't missing my first home game for many a year as I'm on honeymoon (yes I know don't say it) I'd defo be in the Vine on the 17th  ;D

I haven't posted on this thread for a while as I'm pretty non plussed about it all but if its going to go off between BB & Z&B & Jacko I'll be standing with BB  ;D 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 05, 2013, 10:28:43 AM
On the contrary, the last few pages have been a welcome relief from the usual mundane posts & if I wasn't missing my first home game for many a year as I'm on honeymoon (yes I know don't say it) I'd defo be in the Vine on the 17th  ;D

I haven't posted on this thread for a while as I'm pretty non plussed about it all but if its going to go off between BB & Z&B & Jacko I'll be standing with BB  ;D
Bloody hell, what will you be wearing  :D
I think if we are going to have a mass brawl we should do it in fancy dress?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Foster#1 on August 05, 2013, 12:26:30 PM
New offer of Al Nasr is on the table according to Sky, reported the fee is 1.5m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 05, 2013, 12:32:58 PM
New offer of Al Nasr is on the table according to Sky, reported the fee is 1.5m.
If it's true, take the money and run - this situation can't be allowed to go on any longer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2013, 12:38:26 PM
If we could push it up to 2m i'd be happy to see him go, better for him to go abroad than strengthen a rival, as we know he's more than capable of at least 10 a season, and he's obviously a good player. I bet they'd pay huge wages as well so it suits all parties.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 05, 2013, 12:43:00 PM
New offer of Al Nasr is on the table according to Sky, reported the fee is 1.5m.

Thank you very much, nice doing business with you.

Although JP will probably hold out for an extra £500k.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 05, 2013, 12:53:02 PM
If we could push it up to 2m i'd be happy to see him go, better for him to go abroad than strengthen a rival, as we know he's more than capable of at least 10 a season, and he's obviously a good player. I bet they'd pay huge wages as well so it suits all parties.
Snap Dan
I've always said just ship him out regardless but this option would tick that extra box for me to.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 05, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
There should be no doubt that Peace will drive a hard bargain, and get what he wants, from this situation.

Won't be long now before Pete is just another ex player.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on August 05, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
Jp wants 3 million for greebywingie ;D'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on August 05, 2013, 01:18:59 PM
Bloody hell, what will you be wearing :D
I think if we are going to have a mass brawl we should do it in fancy dress?

HeHe Very little I hope (on the honeymoon that is  ;) ) & we'll leave the fancy dress for the Arsenal game eh!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 05, 2013, 01:43:04 PM

Latest from Birmingham Mail
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-receive-15m-bid-5588285

Says we might accept £2m Al Nasr at £1.5m not that much of a gap and also might gee up some of the other interested parties. Can we hope this is the beginning of the end?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 05, 2013, 01:48:44 PM
There should be no doubt that Peace will drive a hard bargain, and get what he wants, from this situation.

Won't be long now before Pete is just another ex player.
Your 2 statements there don't go together I'm afraid! IMO, Mr Peace should bite the bullet for once and accept the offer (or maybe try to negotiate up to £1.75m). There's no guarantee that Odemwhingie will want to move abroad again of course, but accepting an offer might tease out some of the Prem clubs that are interested in him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 05, 2013, 01:51:22 PM
Chris Lepkowski just tweeted the following  ?

#wba & Al Nasr are in talks over a potential Odemwingie deal - but no new bid (other than £850k rejected last month) has been forthcoming

Maybe not as close to ending as I had hoped  :(

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 05, 2013, 02:18:30 PM
Your 2 statements there don't go together I'm afraid! IMO, Mr Peace should bite the bullet for once and accept the offer (or maybe try to negotiate up to £1.75m). There's no guarantee that Odemwhingie will want to move abroad again of course, but accepting an offer might tease out some of the Prem clubs that are interested in him.

Can't quite make out what your point is where my post is concerned, however I still think that Peace will get the right deal for Albion.

Whether its the right one for Odemwingie, I care not as long as he leaves. Of course, he may not fancy a move abroad, however without knowing the bloke his behaviours suggest to me that he will follow the money.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 05, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
Al Nasr have now showed weakness by coming back in after walking away from the deal, just watch JP go for their jugular.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on August 05, 2013, 02:47:13 PM
JP has very little bargaining power with which to go for the jugular in this case.He wants him out of the club he wants him odd the wage bill. As i´ve already said  every day he stays his value goes down as the world and his dog know it,i rather fear JP is fiddling whilst the window burns in this case especially if what CL has tweeted is true.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 05, 2013, 02:48:04 PM
Al Nasr have now showed weakness by coming back in after walking away from the deal, just watch JP go for their jugular.

Have to agree with you on that. On previous form - Davies, Greening, Kamara, Ellington, Earnshaw etc they may as well just hand over a blank signed cheque. It will be less painful.  :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 05, 2013, 03:02:04 PM
Can't quite make out what your point is where my post is concerned, however I still think that Peace will get the right deal for Albion.

Whether its the right one for Odemwingie, I care not as long as he leaves. Of course, he may not fancy a move abroad, however without knowing the bloke his behaviours suggest to me that he will follow the money.

I disagree. If it was all about the money then he'd have been happy to sit on our bench picking up his wage. His biggest twitter outburst was aimed at the fact that he weren't playing and when he did he was played out of position. 

With an English wife and new baby I cannot see him leaving the country at the moment.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 05, 2013, 03:07:02 PM
I disagree. If it was all about the money then he'd have been happy to sit on our bench picking up his wage. His biggest twitter outburst was aimed at the fact that he weren't playing and when he did he was played out of position. 

With an English wife and new baby I cannot see him leaving the country at the moment.

Saw something a couple of weeks ago that he was unhappy the club had turned the bid down and that Al Nasr was his preferred option. I'm sure the tax free wages had something to do with that. Also in January the chance of doubling his wages with 'Arry was a big reason for wanting to leave, this was before his unhappiness at being played out of position and playing in a position where he has spent a good portion of his career without any unhappiness.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on August 05, 2013, 03:17:28 PM
Saw something a couple of weeks ago that he was unhappy the club had turned the bid down and that Al Nasr was his preferred option. I'm sure the tax free wages had something to do with that. Also in January the chance of doubling his wages with 'Arry was a big reason for wanting to leave, this was before his unhappiness at being played out of position and playing in a position where he has spent a good portion of his career without any unhappiness.

My point. I don't buy the "playing out of position" claim. He has played wide almost all of his career.

It's a money thing, otherwise why even entertain QPR who were as good as down when he was busily trying to engineer his move there.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on August 05, 2013, 03:19:50 PM
I'd take £500k less to keep him away from a Hull / Crystal Palace / Cardiff and farm him off to Dubai
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on August 05, 2013, 04:35:43 PM
Official: Al Nasr confirms an initial agreement with Catania for Maxi Lopez. Will be in UAE in next 24-48 hours to complete move.

They still want Odemwingie?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on August 05, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
Official: Al Nasr confirms an initial agreement with Catania for Maxi Lopez. Will be in UAE in next 24-48 hours to complete move.

They still want Odemwingie?
I've seen the odd report on Twitter that they would quite like both.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: koren on August 05, 2013, 05:46:55 PM
I've seen the odd report on Twitter that they would quite like both.
Hope so.It is frustrated to hear the news about Odemwingie,if we really received a 1.5m bid,I think we should sell him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnwilliamso20 on August 05, 2013, 06:52:27 PM
How much more is JP holding out for? Fancy a whip around?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 05, 2013, 06:59:33 PM
Hope so.It is frustrated to hear the news about Odemwingie,if we really received a 1.5m bid,I think we should sell him.

I have faith in JP to get somewhere near £2m
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on August 05, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
If this 1.5m bid is correct i'd take it remember its not just 1.5m but 39k per week in wages that can be spent elsewhere.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: eddiethebeagle on August 05, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
Has Chris L really called him "Odemwinger" in the headline of that article?! Controversial! :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tellinstories on August 05, 2013, 08:54:20 PM
Has Chris L really called him "Odemwinger" in the headline of that article?! Controversial! :)

I don't think the journalists write the headlines, it'll be some cheeky sub-editor :-)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 06, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
From the E&D today:


August 6, 2013 9:59 am
Peter Odemwingie rules out move from West Brom to Al Nasr
West Bromwich Albion striker Peter Odemwingie has ruled out a move abroad and is ready to stay at The Hawthorns if he cannot seal a Premier League move.


       
Albion have rejected three bids from the Premier League and the Nigeria international will resist any transfer out of the top flight despite continued interest from Dubai-based club Al Nasr.

He is ready to leave the Baggies but the Hawthorns hierarchy have turned down three bids of around £1.5m plus add-ons from English top-flight clubs including West Ham and Fulham.

Al Nasr have revived their interest in the 32-year-old and held fresh talks with the Baggies in recent days, although reports of an increased bid of £1.5m from the Middle East outfit are premature. They previously had an £850,000 offer rejected out of hand.

However, Odemwingie will fight any attempt by the Baggies to offload him to a foreign club or a Championship side and is intent on staying in the English top flight.

That leaves Baggies bosses with four weeks to agree a deal with a Premier League club before the transfer window closes or be left with the prospect of the forward – who has been frozen out of the first team picture since the start of pre-season – remaining on their wage bill.

Odemwingie has been in open dispute with the Baggies since submitting a transfer request in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 06, 2013, 10:53:39 AM
West Ham or Cardiff is my bet
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbatillidie on August 06, 2013, 10:55:54 AM
Even if Sinclair signs I think we will still be short on wingers/forwards. Maybe we are waiting for Kalou to make up his decision and if he chooses elsewhere Odemwingie will be staying?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on August 06, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
Just read the Express and Star, what a mad situation! Odemwingie is basically doing a JP on JP!

He is playing hardball, by making it clear he will only move to another premiership club it gives the buying club a much greater bargaining power, there is no way they will pay the £3m or whatever it is now as they know Albion at some point will want him gone whatever it takes, i just cannot see us letting him stay on the payroll for another year especially after paying him the last 6 x months for doing very little, i think we made our point not to be messed with.

It could be that on deadline day he goes on loan for the season just to get him off the wage bill, or ends up going for a £1m or something, be really shocked now if we get a decent fee as the options are so limited.

I do wonder if he may end up staying, especially if the Kalou or Sinclair deals dont happen, it may be there is some mass reconcilliation, both parties go public and see clean slate, blah, blah, he puts the effort in for the season, knowing full well this time next year he is on a free and if he has had a good season (and World Cup, not sure if Nigeria are in it) he can command massive wages, signing on fee, etc.

I think that may now become a slight chance, and didnt think that before.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 06, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
Even if Sinclair signs I think we will still be short on wingers/forwards. Maybe we are waiting for Kalou to make up his decision and if he chooses elsewhere Odemwingie will be staying?
He can't stay - it's no longer an option for any of those directly involved.

People need to ask themselves at what point does a principled stand turn into a festering carbuncle for the club?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 06, 2013, 11:00:27 AM
Even if Sinclair signs I think we will still be short on wingers/forwards. Maybe we are waiting for Kalou to make up his decision and if he chooses elsewhere Odemwingie will be staying?

That's not going to happen. He is training with the kids and totally frozen out of the first team. He is history at West Bromwich Albion Football Club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 06, 2013, 11:08:39 AM
Just read the Express and Star, what a mad situation! Odemwingie is basically doing a JP on JP!

He is playing hardball, by making it clear he will only move to another premiership club it gives the buying club a much greater bargaining power, there is no way they will pay the £3m or whatever it is now as they know Albion at some point will want him gone whatever it takes, i just cannot see us letting him stay on the payroll for another year especially after paying him the last 6 x months for doing very little, i think we made our point not to be messed with.

It could be that on deadline day he goes on loan for the season just to get him off the wage bill, or ends up going for a £1m or something, be really shocked now if we get a decent fee as the options are so limited.

I do wonder if he may end up staying, especially if the Kalou or Sinclair deals dont happen, it may be there is some mass reconcilliation, both parties go public and see clean slate, blah, blah, he puts the effort in for the season, knowing full well this time next year he is on a free and if he has had a good season (and World Cup, not sure if Nigeria are in it) he can command massive wages, signing on fee, etc.

I think that may now become a slight chance, and didnt think that before.


Odemwingie is basically doing a JP on JP

I agree Albion79 it seems that way, but that being the case I hope JP put him on Garden leave till the end of his contract.
Stuff the ££££££ he could get for him. Yes I know its cutting my nose off to spit my face but I still would do it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 06, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
Another option which will have to be considered at some point is allowing him to buy out his contract, something that he indicated last season that he was prepared to do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 06, 2013, 11:30:46 AM
If he was so insistent on joining QPR in January then why he doesn't he drop down to the championship and beg Harry to take him? He spoke highly of him in January.

He made his bed and he can lie in it, the club have to get rid of him, even if it means selling him to a fellow Premier League club - he has no future here. We cannot afford to have his presence constantly distracting the team throughout next season - it's been bad enough in the last seven months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 06, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
He was prepared to sacrifice £1m in January from his contract so simple solution is buy himself out of his deal and walk away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on August 06, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
This will make it really hard for us to move him on only two weeks to season start and most teams have sorted out there forwards. These teams looking at him will also be looking at the fact he has not completed a preseason and not featured in a friendly game so will not match fit having not played for us since March time. We really are between the rock and hard place on this one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 06, 2013, 01:28:29 PM
This is my gut feeling, I think he'll stay make a pathetic attempt at an apology which the majority of the fans will not accept.

He won't feature at all until we are hit by injuries in February time and he will get his chance. Hell score 6 or 7 goals and end up moving on a free next summer to another prem club we will get said club in the first game of the season and he'll play a blinder.

Either that or he'll go out on loan  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 06, 2013, 01:34:36 PM
Don't worry about it... the desperate clubs will be sweating in a couple more weeks and be making a queue at JP's door.


and he will get us the price we deserve ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 06, 2013, 01:40:29 PM
Don't worry about it... the desperate clubs will be sweating in a couple more weeks and be making a queue at JP's door.


and he will get us the price we deserve ;)

I've said this all along. JP will never bow to player power. Never has, never will. Just watch us get over the odds for him from the likes of Cardiff.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 06, 2013, 01:44:31 PM
Clubs know the longer it goes on the more likely we are to soften our stance in terms of transfer fee and maybe even with the player in terms of wages so I think it was always likely to go late into the window.

We were right to make a stand as a club as we looked like fools once he had his interview on Sky, had he waited around the corner out of sight of the journalists until he go ahead there wouldn't have been so much of a problem. Unfortunately he couldn't keep his mouth shut on twitter and made things worse for everyone, now he and the club are suffering. We can't afford to have someone earning so much and not adding anything to the team for a year and he isn't going to offer anyone much if he isn't fit for the new season and he certainly won't be having to train on his own.

I still think he will get a move but it will be late on. The whole sorry saga needs to come to an end for everyone's sake.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 06, 2013, 01:47:35 PM
He was prepared to sacrifice £1m in January from his contract so simple solution is buy himself out of his deal and walk away.
I said this was the most probable , I still think there is a chance he will be our player for the season
I see
sold30%
stays 30%
buys out 40%
without dragging up all the old arguments , if we are top 6 scoring for fun and Petes got 7 by Christmas it may help restore SOME of his rep.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 06, 2013, 02:15:24 PM
I said this was the most probable , I still think there is a chance he will be our player for the season
I see
sold30%
stays 30%
buys out 40%
without dragging up all the old arguments , if we are top 6 scoring for fun and Petes got 7 by Christmas it may help restore SOME of his rep.

There's more chance of us having Rooney and Messi as our strike force than Odemwingie having the opportunity to score another single goal of us.  He is "toast" at this club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 06, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
There's more chance of us having Rooney and Messi as our strike force than Odemwingie having the opportunity to score another single goal of us.  He is "toast" at this club.

Aye, Malouda trained with the kids all of last season. PO will do the same unless he accepts to be moved on. And rightly so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 06, 2013, 05:15:34 PM
Why are people saying he CANT stay? and it is not an option for him to stay? :S maybe he aint wanted but like it or not there is a chance he can still be at the club when the transfer window closes! If JP really wanted to get rid, he would be gone by now, I cant see why they would dump him with the kids... Surely he aint good to be around them with his attitude?
I also read about him wanting to stay in the prem (obv he wont be driving to qpr anytime soon).. but it dont look like any prem team are interested to me unless there is something no one knows about? all there is, is 'rumours' .. how long is this whole pete thing going to go on for? (Til he buggers off? Til he apologieses? Til we have injuries and have to rely on him to score?) 

Maybe JP and PO have kissed and made up and that's why JP keeps rejecting offers ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: clemsleftfoot on August 06, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
make him represent the club in the public domain
you know charity events and such, can't see him wanting to do that having to face the fans up close,

when he refuses fine him wages, he will soon take that al nasr offer.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 06, 2013, 09:13:02 PM
A lot of people in denial about Odemwingie staying at the club. While it is not probable it is most certainly possible.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on August 06, 2013, 09:20:32 PM
A lot of people in denial about Odemwingie staying at the club. While it is not probable it is most certainly possible.
Public apology, live on Sky, commits to the club and gets his head down and plays like he did when he first signs. 15 goals and we would all be happy.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BoingFlyer on August 06, 2013, 09:33:05 PM


The prospect of a Pete and Anelka upfront is very exciting if you put his history to one side. But i think he has been bought down a peg or five, he has been fined, frozen out of the team, had a REAL champion in Anelka come in and provide him competition/role model and to top it off no one yet has met our valuation of only two million.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 06, 2013, 09:52:13 PM
Public apology, live on Sky, commits to the club and gets his head down and plays like he did when he first signs. 15 goals and we would all be happy.
I wouldn't be happy, because all of it would be meaningless weasel words. None of the above will happen anyway - Clarke has made his decision (the correct one) and Odemwingie must go one way or another.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ross on August 06, 2013, 09:53:32 PM
This is boring.

Sell for £1.5m and get rid.

How have we turned down bids in excess of this (with add-ons) is a joke.

The guy needs to go.

Get off your high horse Mr Peace your hard nosed / stubborn approach has failed in this case.

You are paying him circa £40k a week for your incompetence of not selling him for £1.5m - which for a 32 year old with ego problems is a good deal.

This should have been over months ago.

Amatuerish
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 06, 2013, 10:01:34 PM
He has been told several times by the club since the end of the season that he will never play for the club again so please drop the notion that he is going to make some  miraculous comeback, it just is not going to happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: socalbaggie on August 06, 2013, 10:13:16 PM
Well I just read online from E&S that PO will put up a fight to any moves abroad or to any Championship sides. Which ticks me off for many reasons but especially because the club he so badly wanted to go to is now playing in the Championship!!

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/08/06/peter-odemwingie-rules-out-move-from-west-brom-to-al-nasr/

Peter Odemwingie rules out move abroad from West Brom
West Bromwich Albion striker Peter Odemwingie has ruled out a move abroad and is ready to stay at The Hawthorns if he cannot seal a Premier League move.
       
Albion have rejected three bids from the Premier League and the Nigeria international will resist any transfer out of the top flight despite continued interest from Dubai-based club Al Nasr.

Odemwingie is ready to leave the Baggies but the Hawthorns hierarchy have turned down three bids of around £1.5m plus add-ons from English top-flight clubs including West Ham and Fulham.

Al Nasr have revived their interest in the 32-year-old and held fresh talks with the Baggies in recent days, although reports of an increased bid of £1.5m from the Middle East outfit are premature. They previously had an £850,000 offer rejected out of hand. However, Odemwingie will fight any attempt by the Baggies to offload him to a foreign club or a Championship side and is intent on staying in the English top flight.

That leaves Baggies bosses with four weeks to agree a deal with a Premier League club before the transfer window closes or be left with the prospect of the forward – who has been frozen out of the first team picture since the start of pre-season – remaining on their wage bill.

Odemwingie has been in open dispute with the Baggies since submitting a transfer request in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 06, 2013, 10:58:04 PM
He has been told several times by the club since the end of the season that he will never play for the club again so please drop the notion that he is going to make some  miraculous comeback, it just is not going to happen.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 07, 2013, 01:21:56 AM
Thank you.

I believe Mr Tevez was told a similar thing by Manchester City  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 07, 2013, 04:09:05 AM
I believe Mr Tevez was told a similar thing by Manchester City  ;D

Yeah and in the end City lost a year and a manager and couldn't wait to get rid of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 07, 2013, 09:41:14 AM
I believe Mr Tevez was told a similar thing by Manchester City  ;D

True but ask the city fans now if looking back they would welcome him back again with open arms.
City & city fans was made were made to look like prats Albion & us fans wont.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on August 07, 2013, 12:44:01 PM
Slightly surprised a club like Celtic haven't come in for him. After their transfer window they could easily afford him, he would rip up that league and some of the opposition they have in the Champions League qualifiers. For his part he'd get another throw, all be it briefly, of European football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 07, 2013, 12:52:11 PM
I genuinely think he will be in the squad v Southampton , our first 4 are all winnable , they could also be defeats if we lose 4 then he plays , scores and we win I think a lot would change?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 07, 2013, 12:58:35 PM
I genuinely think he will be in the squad v Southampton , our first 4 are all winnable , they could also be defeats if we lose 4 then he plays , scores and we win I think a lot would change?
Did you miss this:
He has been told several times by the club since the end of the season that he will never play for the club again so please drop the notion that he is going to make some  miraculous comeback, it just is not going to happen.
If the club had any notion that he might play for us, he would be featuring to some extent in the pre-season friendlies.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommi on August 07, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
I genuinely think he will be in the squad v Southampton , our first 4 are all winnable , they could also be defeats if we lose 4 then he plays , scores and we win I think a lot would change?

You do realise he has been excluded from all pre-season activity and will be no where near match fitness....

Not that he would be anywhere near our squad come the Southampton game.

Game time in pre-season for the likes of Roofe, Nabi and Saido spell it out pretty clearly that Peter is no longer involved.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 07, 2013, 01:28:30 PM
You do realise he has been excluded from all pre-season activity and will be no where near match fitness....

Not that he would be anywhere near our squad come the Southampton game.

Game time in pre-season for the likes of Roofe, Nabi and Saido spell it out pretty clearly that Peter is no longer involved.
I have seen this , however you would agree that he has been "kept out" because the assumption was he would have been moved on .
if he moved on it would be better for all , but if no one comes in then the club have an "asset" on 40k per week not playing , as I said if we start off bad it could force an issue?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 07, 2013, 01:37:32 PM
I have seen this , however you would agree that he has been "kept out" because the assumption was he would have been moved on .
if he moved on it would be better for all , but if no one comes in then the club have an "asset" on 40k per week not playing , as I said if we start off bad it could force an issue?

You said that you genuinely think that he will be in the squad to play Southampton. That game is before the window closes and everyone else should be fit and had a full pre-season (except Thorne, Gera and Lugano). There is no way he will be in the 18 to play in the first game even if he is still at the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 07, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
You said that you genuinely think that he will be in the squad to play Southampton. That game is before the window closes and everyone else should be fit and had a full pre-season (except Thorne, Gera and Lugano). There is no way he will be in the 18 to play in the first game even if he is still at the club.
we shall have to wait and see?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on August 07, 2013, 06:07:11 PM
He should be off the books by now we paid 1.5m for him if im correct he was instrumental in our first season back in the premier league no matter how much certain people don't like it but lets just recoup the money we paid and stop keep holding out for 500k or whatever more.

Im no a fan of his at all but by his contribution in his first season he made us money by helping keeping us up so lets let him go and use the wages on players that want to play for Albion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WSBaggie on August 07, 2013, 06:41:27 PM
He has always wanted to move, if we don't get a bid near his value he will not be sold we have made that clear. We have took the stance and whether people see it as right or wrong we have to stick with it.

If he stays past the summer he won't get a game and lets see him pick up a better club than us then.... he would be lucky to get somebody to match what he is been paid here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 08, 2013, 12:02:58 AM
the desperate will be queuing up soon enough....

I see QPR are being linked again even after the reports of him not willing to drop down
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 08, 2013, 12:04:47 AM
the desperate will be queuing up soon enough....

I see QPR are being linked again even after the reports of him not willing to drop down

Who are these clubs desperate to sign a striker. Well except us?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: THROSTLE79 on August 08, 2013, 01:01:04 AM
Starting to get a feeling there could be a u-turn coming with ODW , maybe if we can't get a GOOD deal we WON'T deal at all  because a resolution could be the cheaper option , are we going to sell him for £1M or so to our direct competition in OUR league ? Giving them pace , goals , prem-experience , for next to nothing as we struggle ( or are seeming to ) to find the right candidate to replace .
ODW was pictured at Shane Longs wedding in Ireland during the summer so maybe not as exiled from the squad as we might think .
Personally I want him gone and replaced with quality , but , if we can't get the right player in then make him apologise to us fans and get back on that goal trail for the baggies - ultimately that's his job and he could go on to score a lot more for us and put himself in our folklore .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 08, 2013, 01:11:22 AM
Starting to get a feeling there could be a u-turn coming with ODW , maybe if we can't get a GOOD deal we WON'T deal at all  because a resolution could be the cheaper option , are we going to sell him for £1M or so to our direct competition in OUR league ? Giving them pace , goals , prem-experience , for next to nothing as we struggle ( or are seeming to ) to find the right candidate to replace .
ODW was pictured at Shane Longs wedding in Ireland during the summer so maybe not as exiled from the squad as we might think .
Personally I want him gone and replaced with quality , but , if we can't get the right player in then make him apologise to us fans and get back on that goal trail for the baggies - ultimately that's his job and he could go on to score a lot more for us and put himself in our folklore .

I do believe he has been frozen out by the coaching staff, but I also agree that 90% of the squad have no issues with Peter Odemwingie. All footballers are alike, it's a job to them. They probably wind him up something chronic, but I doubt there is any vitriol in it, despite Steve Reid's posturing in the press for the benefit of the fans.

A U-turn should never be ruled out, as the great Jimmy Greaves says, it's a funny old game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 08, 2013, 08:50:33 AM
Tweet from Chris Lepkowski this morning:

"PO will be sold or sidelined for 6 months at least. £1.5m has been rejected. On 38k-p-wk"

So we have turned down a £1.5m offer from someone. It's reached the time to accept that kind of money IMO and save on the wages too. As Mr Spock would say: "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one"!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 08, 2013, 09:00:30 AM
So on one hand we have JP seemingly 'wasting' money with Odemwingie yet on the other not willing to pay the £4m for Sinclair!!

I have been a huge supporter of JP but if the summer window closes and it remains as is in terms of players I will seriously have to question what JP is doing!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mannimc on August 08, 2013, 09:09:01 AM
Im getting frustrated but if history is anything to go by we will get the money that we want.

Theres obvious interest from somewhere so lets keep faith

We are desperately in need of a few players to freshen up the squad
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: walter baggie on August 08, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
hes going to harry,qpr are interested,also he know his way there,and his love for harry cant be denied!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 08, 2013, 09:21:47 AM
hes going to harry,qpr are interested,also he know hes way there,
At least he knows how to get there. ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Signor_Maresca on August 08, 2013, 09:56:13 AM
So on one hand we have JP seemingly 'wasting' money with Odemwingie yet on the other not willing to pay the £4m for Sinclair!!

I have been a huge supporter of JP but if the summer window closes and it remains as is in terms of players I will seriously have to question what JP is doing!

It’s frustrating, isn't every summer, yet JP’s record suggests that he is a competent mover and by the time transfer windows shut our sales and acquisitions more than often make impressive reading.  Keep the faith.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommi on August 08, 2013, 10:11:32 AM
Hopefully playing hardball wont backfire, rejecting £1.5m is fine if they offer more, however his wages will cost us about £1.9m for the year.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 08, 2013, 11:01:28 AM
Hopefully playing hardball wont backfire
Our bargaining position for Odemwonga is worsening with each passing day. Everyone who's interested knows that he's ostracised within the club and that he's not having a proper pre-season, so will be taking these into account in what they offer us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mrvulgarity on August 08, 2013, 11:36:11 AM
If we did What Odemwingie did to our current emplyers we would be fired. What is currently happening is that we cant just fire a player, so were doing the next possible punishment and that is not just let him go to the next bidder.

We paid a fee, and we paid his wages on time every month. We want a fee back + some of the wages back.

This is not unreasonable, and I would much rather it dragged out until a suitable bid comes in to resolve this.

Odemwingie has said he does not want to go abroad so really we can't do much else. We may have accepted a bid from the Qatar team, but Odemwingie wont go, so whats the point in persuing that bid?

He is not going to feature, he is training alone/with academy players. He is not part of first team affairs, never training with first team so really he is just a minor inconvenience.

Lets leave it at that, if we continue to whine and moan about this, we are not moving on. Support the lads who are proud to wear the shirt and just ignore the ones who don't want to be here. He does not deserve 120+ pages of text.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 08, 2013, 11:47:36 AM
If we did What Odemwingie did to our current emplyers we would be fired. What is currently happening is that we cant just fire a player, so were doing the next possible punishment and that is not just let him go to the next bidder.

We paid a fee, and we paid his wages on time every month. We want a fee back + some of the wages back.

This is not unreasonable, and I would much rather it dragged out until a suitable bid comes in to resolve this.

Odemwingie has said he does not want to go abroad so really we can't do much else. We may have accepted a bid from the Qatar team, but Odemwingie wont go, so whats the point in persuing that bid?

He is not going to feature, he is training alone/with academy players. He is not part of first team affairs, never training with first team so really he is just a minor inconvenience.

Lets leave it at that, if we continue to whine and moan about this, we are not moving on. Support the lads who are proud to wear the shirt and just ignore the ones who don't want to be here. He does not deserve 120+ pages of text.

Agreed.

However when potential targets coming in are off the back of Odemwingie leaving (as rumoured by a tweet earlier by I think CL) that's when it needs to be sorted IMO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 08, 2013, 11:53:36 AM
The mirror today says that we want £3.5M for him. I hope that is not true as we won't get that. If it was purely down to ability then yes but there is so much baggage that make that amount impossible to get.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 08, 2013, 12:06:04 PM
The mirror today says that we want £3.5M for him. I hope that is not true as we won't get that. If it was purely down to ability then yes but there is so much baggage that make that amount impossible to get.

I would think that is the bare minimum. We wanted 2 million and Hoillett in January and Peace's stance hasn't changed.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tjmill on August 08, 2013, 12:21:21 PM
I cant see this being finalised until nearer to the end of the window. Think all the clubs are reluctant to pay 2m for a 32 year old player with only 1 year left and they know we want rid so they are in control.
Need to shift him though before season in my opinion or it could affect the rest of the team having him still around,
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 08, 2013, 12:30:13 PM
I cant see this being finalised until nearer to the end of the window. Think all the clubs are reluctant to pay 2m for a 32 year old player with only 1 year left and they know we want rid so they are in control.
Need to shift him though before season in my opinion or it could affect the rest of the team having him still around,

Except for Odemwingie's close friends I doubt the players care. If he is still here on September the first he will resume training with the first team squad as we are not able to keep him with the kids indefinitely due to European worker laws.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: FallOutBoy on August 08, 2013, 01:10:51 PM
Just get him gone now. He can't come back into the first team (despite what his appologists keep saying), and his prescence will destablise the fan base. Take the money, save the wages, get Sinclair, a player who actually wants to be here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 08, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 08, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.


But what if ... ?






(Ducks for cover)  :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 08, 2013, 03:18:03 PM
Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.

Thanks AGAIN Baggie79
That should be clear enough even for TheJacko2000.
I would love you in my corner TheJacko2000
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 08, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.
I don't think anyone doubts what the club have said to him , and that you clearly have a relationship / are privy to info from the club which I , like many are grateful for.
What I would say is this , in much the same way that everyone as their price, every situation has its tipping point , without dragging up all the qpr and he said she said business, the facts are IF no one comes in (with a suitable offer) we would have an "asset" on around 40k a week that we would prefer not to use .
Now whilst many admire the stance by the club (and I fully see their reasoning) you do wonder at what point (lack of goals , injuries, defeats) the stance could/would be changed , and if we lost the first 4 in a row , Pete publically apologised and said I am totally in the wrong , the hatrick v wolves meant so much to me, I have let down the fans who took me as their own etc etc would it really be that unbelievable?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 08, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
if we lost the first 4 in a row , Pete publically apologised and said I am totally in the wrong , the hatrick v wolves meant so much to me, I have let down the fans who took me as their own etc etc would it really be that unbelievable?
Yes it would be totally and utterly unbelievable and anyone who thought otherwise would be deluding themselves. He has to leave and the club needs to get it done by Sep 2nd.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 08, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
Yes it would be totally and utterly unbelievable and anyone who thought otherwise would be deluding themselves. He has to leave and the club needs to get it done by Sep 2nd.

Don't forget the Championship loan window opens about a week or so after that date so its feasible he could get his dream move to 'Arry even then
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 08, 2013, 04:21:18 PM
For me as a club we have made our point now , Odemwingie has about 12 months left on his contract so any bid around 1.5 million and i would most likely accept . I am pleased the club stuck to their guns in January but now is the time to get fresh blood in not to mention the possible damage it's doing to our clubs image if we drag it too far.
The only club i would reject that sort of offer from is QPR just so it doesn't feel like they are getting one over us and i don't want to help old Twitchy.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 08, 2013, 04:23:02 PM
Don't forget the Championship loan window opens about a week or so after that date so its feasible he could get his dream move to 'Arry even then
Indeed, but if we end up loaning him in that window, we'll have pretty much lost all hope of getting a transfer fee for him. That scenario would make Peace's principled stand in January a very expensive one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 08, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
Indeed, but if we end up loaning him in that window, we'll have lost all hope of getting a transfer fee for him. That scenario would make Peace's principled stand in January a very expensive one.

We'd still get a loan fee for him as QPR have done with Remy. I'm still expecting him to go somewhere on a loan to perm deal for undisclosed fee at the end of the window.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 08, 2013, 04:33:40 PM
We'd still get a loan fee for him as QPR have done with Remy. I'm still expecting him to go somewhere on a loan to perm deal for undisclosed fee at the end of the window.
Im  expecting him to go  back to being the little one in JLS
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 08, 2013, 04:40:37 PM
Im  expecting him to go  back to being the little one in JLS

I think he's grown to tall now  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 08, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
We'd still get a loan fee for him as QPR have done with Remy. I'm still expecting him to go somewhere on a loan to perm deal for undisclosed fee at the end of the window.
Which window do you mean? His contract's up at the end of the season, so we wouldn't get anything for him then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 08, 2013, 05:10:35 PM
Which window do you mean? His contract's up at the end of the season, so we wouldn't get anything for him then.

This window. The other club would still have to pay something for the loan deal even with his contract up at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 09, 2013, 02:43:20 AM
True but ask the city fans now if looking back they would welcome him back again with open arms.
City & city fans was made were made to look like prats Albion & us fans wont.

Sorry missed this before, but undoubtedly yes they would do the same thing over and over again, as his return to the club went a long way to them winning the Premier League Title.  :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 09, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
Sorry missed this before, but undoubtedly yes they would do the same thing over and over again, as his return to the club went a long way to them winning the Premier League Title.  :-X

This is were we don't see the same game TheJacko2000 mine is about the football club from top to bottom yours seems to be the trophy room.
At the end of this sago the club will be seen by a very large section of Man City fans as being stronger than them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 09, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
I am starting to believe if he is not replaced everybody needs to kiss and make up for us to stand any chance of scoring enough goals to stay in this league
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 09, 2013, 10:01:29 AM
I am starting to believe if he is not replaced everybody needs to kiss and make up for us to stand any chance of scoring enough goals to stay in this league
That's like asking me and my ex-wife to kiss and make up, NO BLOODY CHANCE.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 09, 2013, 10:08:57 AM
To be honest i don't give a toss anymore, i want my team in the premier league and to do this we need a goal scorer. Allot of players play up nowadays.It really wouldn't worry me if he were to stay and help keep us up another season
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 09, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
To be honest i don't give a toss anymore, i want my team in the premier league and to do this we need a goal scorer. Allot of players play up nowadays.It really wouldn't worry me if he were to stay and help keep us up another season

Sadly, your comment sums up exactly what is wrong with football today.

Too many fans couldn't give a toss about moral standards, as long as the team does well.  Liverpool fans can forgive Suarez for biting and making racist comments, El Haj Djouf can spit in opponents' faces, Barton can behave like an idiot continuously, but "its OK as they are good players".  Players who sign up willingly to new and lucrative contracts can then ignore them because they don't want to honour what they signed up to. Pathetic.  Yet we indulge certain players because they happen to be good?  I don't care that other clubs might operate to lower and different standards than us - that's their choice.  Its what makes Albion difefrent, and long may it continue.   

I for one never want to see this scumbag anywhere near an Albion short again.  If he comes back here and scores a hat-trick against us for his new club, assuming he ever gets one, then I still wouldn't consider it a mistake to get rid of him.

It doesn't mean that he isn't a very good player, and one who made a big contribution to Albion's recent history. That's fact and cannot be taken away from him, and he rightly took a lot of glory for that. But his behaviour during 2013 is also a fact and he must equally take the criticism for that.

I don't believe he will kick a ball for this club again, and if I was Steve Clarke and was told that I now had to pick him, then I would refuse, and if necessary I would resign on the spot and claim constructive dismissal.  And I would win. 

Try behaving like he did in any normal workplace and just see how you get on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on August 09, 2013, 11:39:55 AM
Sadly, your comment sums up exactly what is wrong with football today.

Too many fans couldn't give a toss about moral standards, as long as the team does well.  Liverpool fans can forgive Suarez for biting and making racist comments, El Haj Djouf can spit in opponents' faces, Barton can behave like an idiot continuously, but "its OK as they are good players".  Players who sign up willingly to new and lucrative contracts can then ignore them because they don't want to honour what they signed up to. Pathetic.  Yet we indulge certain players because they happen to be good?  I don't care that other clubs might operate to lower and different standards than us - that's their choice.  Its what makes Albion difefrent, and long may it continue.   

I for one never want to see this scumbag anywhere near an Albion short again.  If he comes back here and scores a hat-trick against us for his new club, assuming he ever gets one, then I still wouldn't consider it a mistake to get rid of him.

It doesn't mean that he isn't a very good player, and one who made a big contribution to Albion's recent history. That's fact and cannot be taken away from him, and he rightly took a lot of glory for that. But his behaviour during 2013 is also a fact and he must equally take the criticism for that.

I don't believe he will kick a ball for this club again, and if I was Steve Clarke and was told that I now had to pick him, then I would refuse, and if necessary I would resign on the spot and claim constructive dismissal.  And I would win. 

Try behaving like he did in any normal workplace and just see how you get on.


Whoa, you are having a go at the wrong fan with Devon, he is a great supporter of our club, most of us are not happy about Odemwingie, realistically he will never play for our club again, however, IF he gave a proper apology and the club deemed him to be available for selection, I as a fan would accept that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 09, 2013, 11:48:23 AM

Whoa, you are having a go at the wrong fan with Devon, he is a great supporter of our club, most of us are not happy about Odemwingie, realistically he will never play for our club again, however, IF he gave a proper apology and the club deemed him to be available for selection, I as a fan would accept that.

A proper apology live on TV from the player himself would go a long way to repairing damage, one through the club or agent issued through a newspaper or website would mean nothing but empty words. After the apology head down for the remainder of his contract and no more pathetic stunts then I would have him back, I wouldn't welcome him back but would accept it.

I don't see any of it happening though as he has had chances to apologise before and gone on more rambles and seemingly cannot accept he has done any wrong. I think though too much has gone on and the best solution for all is a parting of the ways.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 09, 2013, 12:17:19 PM

Whoa, you are having a go at the wrong fan with Devon, he is a great supporter of our club, most of us are not happy about Odemwingie, realistically he will never play for our club again, however, IF he gave a proper apology and the club deemed him to be available for selection, I as a fan would accept that.

Sorry - I've just re-read my post and I cannot see that I have "had a go at" Devon.  Nothing personal there at all - the last paragraph was generic and aimed at anybody who behaves like that in a normal workplace, not "you" in the literal sense.

I would be extremely reluctant to accept an apology as being genuine. I can count on one hand the number of genuine, heartfelt player apologies which have been made by players over the years. It means nothing, and they are told what to say.

His behavour was despicable. What bid of "don't carry on tweeting your grievances" did he not understand after being clearly warned not to by the club?

There was a window just after the QPR escapade, and after his first tweeting phase, when I think he could have apologised and moved forward, and even been forgiven by the fans.  But he just kept on digging, deliberately so that the club would HAVE to sell him.  Nothing has changed since. The only fault in his plan is that there has been no buyer prepared to spend what a player of his ability should command.  Why do you think that is?  Even desperate clubs aren't prepared to pay £1.5m for a 10-15 goals a season proven Premiership striker. Too much baggage, and therefore soiled goods.  All caused by his behaviour AFTER his return from his little trip to Loftus Road.     
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 09, 2013, 12:28:07 PM
There's absolutely no way any apology would be genuine, so I'm not sure why anyone is saying they would accept it, other than those who don't have a problem with what's he's done anyway? If he felt even the remotest remorse, he would have apologised long ago.

It's gone way too far now, so he simply has to go. Fortunately, as Baggie79 has pointed out twice, the Club's stance is the same and no bridges are going to be rebuilt. If we were going to forgive him now, we might as well have sold him to QPR in January, as any moral high ground we took then would all be gone if we made up with him on the basis of some weasel words that he stated.

The saddest thing is that he's still here with just over a week to go to the start of the season, so we're all still wasting cyber-breath over him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 09, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
This is were we don't see the same game TheJacko2000 mine is about the football club from top to bottom yours seems to be the trophy room.
At the end of this sago the club will be seen by a very large section of Man City fans as being stronger than them.

I defy you to find me one Manchester City fan that would swap the feeling when Aguero scored THAT goal in stoppage time against QPR, for the feeling of moral superiority they would have had if Tevez had been left to rot.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: don1thedon on August 09, 2013, 02:28:18 PM
"... cyber-breath ..."
At least something in this thread makes me smile
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BoingFlyer on August 09, 2013, 02:31:27 PM

For me personally I really could not care what he has said on twitter, if he is happy or not or even if he apologies. The world has changed and what once would have been a private rant is now a very public one and more fool him for having to learn the hard way.

If the guy is good at his job (scoring goals) and cant easily be replaced and an idiot off the field that his problem and no company would sack an employee for that.

If he pulls on a WBA shirt and gives 100% he will get my full backing, if not let him rot in the reserves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnwilliamso20 on August 09, 2013, 02:43:08 PM
Twitchy Harry is on Sky Sports saying how clubs should let a player go if he wants to leave...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 09, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
Twitchy Harry is on Sky Sports saying how clubs should let a player go if he wants to leave...


Is that a dig at us?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 09, 2013, 02:48:35 PM

Is that a dig at us?

He probably wants to buy Odemwingie on the cheap. Fat chance JP will let that happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BoingFlyer on August 09, 2013, 03:04:48 PM

He probably still thinks that signing him would of kept them safe.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 09, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
He probably still thinks that signing him would of kept them safe.


and would he have kept them safe??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: divinewind on August 09, 2013, 03:14:22 PM
I can't see anyone meeting our asking price if they can pick him up for free at the end of next season.

As for Harry,well,he must have unsettled him in the first place as Wingie knew what the deal was.


harry soon shut the gate when Albion mentioned legal action.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AshD on August 09, 2013, 03:27:16 PM

and would he have kept them safe??

Bearing in mind they were conceding 3 goals a game, no he wouldnt have!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 09, 2013, 03:31:29 PM

and would he have kept them safe??

They picked up only 1 point less than we did second half of the season! A lot of drawn games for them so who knows.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 09, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
I defy you to find me one Manchester City fan that would swap the feeling when Aguero scored THAT goal in stoppage time against QPR, for the feeling of moral superiority they would have had if Tevez had been left to rot.

You could of course ask them in a poll.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 09, 2013, 04:07:12 PM
I defy you to find me one Manchester City fan that would swap the feeling when Aguero scored THAT goal in stoppage time against QPR, for the feeling of moral superiority they would have had if Tevez had been left to rot.
Agreed brother  :D
Strangely its very similar to THAT hatrick on THAT day against THEM down the road ?, if you could have asked the Albion fans coming out of the dingles shed that day "if they would forgive Odemwingie anything ?" after that performance , id suggest most would have said yes?
I don't think the episode has been handled properly by EITHER side , but I do think that the amount of people who think he may end up staying is on the increase?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 09, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
Agreed brother  :D
Strangely its very similar to THAT hatrick on THAT day against THEM down the road ?, if you could have asked the Albion fans coming out of the dingles shed that day "if they would forgive Odemwingie anything ?" after that performance , id suggest most would have said yes?
I don't think the episode has been handled properly by EITHER side , but I do think that the amount of people who think he may end up staying is on the increase?

Due to the emotion of the occasion then yes they would, ask them when they had calmed down the response of a few would be different.

Unfortunately he will not be remembered for THAT game, he will be remembered for THAT Twitter account.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 09, 2013, 05:16:05 PM
They picked up only 1 point less than we did second half of the season!
Which isn't saying much!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 09, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
Christ almighty we have to talk about this all the time because we have nowt else to talk about. Sad isn't it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 09, 2013, 09:36:49 PM
I just caught the tail end of a reference to Odemwingie on Sky Sports news. I heard reference to the comment that he has yet to discuss personal terms. Can someone enlighten me please.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 09, 2013, 09:53:35 PM
I just caught the tail end of a reference to Odemwingie on Sky Sports news. I heard reference to the comment that he has yet to discuss personal terms. Can someone enlighten me please.
WBA u-turn on Odemwinie.
West Bromwich Albions Nigerian striker Peter Odemwingie has announced his intention to stay at the cub.
Speaking at the clubs training session prior to Saturdays game he said that the two parties have settled their differences and has agreed a 2 year contract extension, he looks forward to the coming season and thanked the supporters for their patience during the last season  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 09, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
 >:(
I just caught the tail end of a reference to Odemwingie on Sky Sports news. I heard reference to the comment that he has yet to discuss personal terms. Can someone enlighten me please.
Its Al Nasr again , according to Sky they have asked to talk wages with Odemwingie despite not agreeing a fee yet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Statham4england on August 09, 2013, 10:54:28 PM
Yawn.......get rid or do a "Tevez"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 09, 2013, 11:47:27 PM
WBA u-turn on Odemwinie.
West Bromwich Albions Nigerian striker Peter Odemwingie has announced his intention to stay at the cub.
Speaking at the clubs training session prior to Saturdays game he said that the two parties have settled their differences and has agreed a 2 year contract extension, he looks forward to the coming season and thanked the supporters for their patience during the last season  :D

 :D you are a very naughty boy Zippy ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 10, 2013, 05:57:07 PM
WBA u-turn on Odemwinie.
West Bromwich Albions Nigerian striker Peter Odemwingie has announced his intention to stay at the cub.
Speaking at the clubs training session prior to Saturdays game he said that the two parties have settled their differences and has agreed a 2 year contract extension, he looks forward to the coming season and thanked the supporters for their patience during the last season  :D

.....and in other news, hell has frozen over.  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 10, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
I still think there's a chance odemwingie could feature next season.

Granted the aim is to sell him but if Mr Peace insists on a higher asking price for him I can see him playing toward Christmas to get his price up a little.

I know a few on here who are ITK so to speak have said he'll never play again for us, I just feel with the lack of transfer activity and given no one is interested in odemwingie at the moment I can see him featuring at some point if he's not moved on.

I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 10, 2013, 09:00:24 PM
I see Brendan Rogers has said that Suarez will have to apologise to the players and club before he plays again. Maybe a similar public statement and forthcoming apology would have been in order before the post QPR appearances last season.....and certainly if Pete is going to set foot on the pitch again after all this .....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: gerry m on August 10, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
I still think there's a chance odemwingie could feature next season.

Granted the aim is to sell him but if Mr Peace insists on a higher asking price for him I can see him playing toward Christmas to get his price up a little.

I know a few on here who are ITK so to speak have said he'll never play again for us, I just feel with the lack of transfer activity and given no one is interested in odemwingie at the moment I can see him featuring at some point if he's not moved on.

I hope I am wrong.

not featured pre-season so i would be very suprised if he figures for us next season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 10, 2013, 10:29:48 PM
No chance of PO ever playing for us again. It will not happen. As much as I would accept him back, the vast majority wouldn't. His position is completely untenable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on August 11, 2013, 12:59:53 AM
Shame really, my mate who is a Man Utd fan believes if Odemwingie was still part of the squad with no problems that out forward line would be as good as anything in the league and says we would be an outside bet for the 4th Champs League spot (I laughed...) but he reckons we only need 3-4 decent players to push 4th....

Anelka Rosenberg Odemwingie

Annoyed me how its ended with PO, was becoming a hero for me, real top quality player what a waste man
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 11, 2013, 11:51:46 PM
Shame really, my mate who is a Man Utd fan believes if Odemwingie was still part of the squad with no problems that out forward line would be as good as anything in the league and says we would be an outside bet for the 4th Champs League spot (I laughed...) but he reckons we only need 3-4 decent players to push 4th....

Anelka Rosenberg Odemwingie

Annoyed me how its ended with PO, was becoming a hero for me, real top quality player what a waste man
   . A strke force to put the fear of God into any
defence .What a waste  :'(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 13, 2013, 04:08:10 PM
Peter Odemwingie's move to Dubai is off as Al Nasr have grown frustrated with West Brom's reluctance to meet with them. (Source: SkySports)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 13, 2013, 04:13:53 PM
Peter Odemwingie's move to Dubai is off as Al Nasr have grown frustrated with West Brom's reluctance to meet with them. (Source: SkySports)


I would say an half way meet would be somewhere like Greece?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 13, 2013, 04:16:03 PM
I take no notice of Sky Sports and their so called sources but if local papers are to be believed he didn't want to go to Dubai anyway, he seems to want to remain in England and the Premier League.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 13, 2013, 04:21:28 PM
I take no notice of Sky Sports and their so called sources but if local papers are to be believed he didn't want to go to Dubai anyway, he seems to want to remain in England and the Premier League.
yeah I seen he wants to play in the premier league as well, i'm not supporting what it says on Sky i'm just putting it out there
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 13, 2013, 05:18:38 PM
Peter Odemwingie's move to Dubai is off as Al Nasr have grown frustrated with West Brom's reluctance to meet with them. (Source: SkySports)

And we certainly can't have Odemwingie meeting with a club with whom terms have not been agreed with the club. That would be wrong, completely wrong, although I think it may have happened once before....

 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on August 13, 2013, 05:46:12 PM
Isn't this just an old story rehashed? The move was never on to al nasr so how can it be off?didnt Odemwingie say he isn't interested in moving there and that he only wanted a premier league move?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on August 13, 2013, 05:53:29 PM

I would say an half way meet would be somewhere like Greece?

I think JP has suggested Smethwick!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 13, 2013, 08:12:29 PM
Peter Odemwingie's move to Dubai is off as Al Nasr have grown frustrated with West Brom's reluctance to meet with them. (Source: SkySports)
Jeremy Peace actually offered to lay on bacon and sausage sandwiches , sausage rolls and scotch eggs as long as they agreed to come for the meeting before last Sunday.
Strangely they didn't want to? :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on August 14, 2013, 10:04:55 AM
I genuinely want Odemwingie to stay and play a part next season.  Our form dipped without him last season and I've yet to see us linked to a winger/forward who I would rate as a better player.  We're rumoured to be talking to players like Kalou and Sinclair - I would pick PO above these pair any day.

It is time to bury the hatchet and put him back in the team.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bob on August 14, 2013, 10:12:21 AM
Nice thought WB and, to be honest, personally i'd have no problem if he played for us again. Most footballers are the same, he's just done it in public and been very niave. Out of order but i wouldn't boo him if he played again.

However i think for the majority he has crossed a bridge to far.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Doobuy on August 14, 2013, 10:19:10 AM
i want him to sign a new contract and stay. When he came on last season late on when we were short he looked the part but was playing selfishly -= shooting on sight and not passing at all. If he committed to WBA for his career then I think more fans would accept him over time. Its not all his fault - he has been very badly advised.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 14, 2013, 10:19:56 AM
If we cant get anyone else in i say keep him, many footballers are billy big boots but we need proven players to help us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mank baggie on August 14, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
I genuinely want Odemwingie to stay and play a part next season.  Our form dipped without him last season and I've yet to see us linked to a winger/forward who I would rate as a better player.  We're rumoured to be talking to players like Kalou and Sinclair - I would pick PO above these pair any day.

It is time to bury the hatchet and put him back in the team.
and we could bring mowbray back and make steve bull his assistant, i dont want odem anywhere near the albion he is a toxic cancer that needs to be cut out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on August 14, 2013, 10:45:12 AM
and we could bring mowbray back and make steve bull his assistant, i dont want odem anywhere near the albion he is a toxic cancer that needs to be cut out.

Missing the point - Would a Mowbray/Bull combination do a better job than our current staff??? - I doubt it.

PO has and still can do a job for us - Yes his attitude is poor but that is modern football.  Rooney, Bale, Suarez to name but a few are trying to force moves - does it make them less effective on the pitch - hell no!!!

People keep saying we'll miss Lukaku - I think we'll miss PO more.  Last season PO started 13 games and we picked up 20 points as opposed to the 25 games he didn't start where we only managed 29 points.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on August 14, 2013, 10:50:45 AM
Missing the point - Would a Mowbray/Bull combination do a better job than our current staff??? - I doubt it.

PO has and still can do a job for us - Yes his attitude is poor but that is modern football.  Rooney, Bale, Suarez to name but a few are trying to force moves - does it make them less effective on the pitch - hell no!!!

People keep saying we'll miss Lukaku - I think we'll miss PO more.  Last season PO started 13 games and we picked up 20 points as opposed to the 25 games he didn't start where we only managed 29 points.
I agree with your observations..........I think, from the fans point of view, there needs to be some genuine gesture from Pete. We'll never know all the actual ins & outs but I've said all along he'll be a big miss on the pitch. And people make mistakes in their lives. This was a duzey; but there is always a way back if people want it enough.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mank baggie on August 14, 2013, 11:37:42 AM
Missing the point - Would a Mowbray/Bull combination do a better job than our current staff??? - I doubt it.

PO has and still can do a job for us - Yes his attitude is poor but that is modern football.  Rooney, Bale, Suarez to name but a few are trying to force moves - does it make them less effective on the pitch - hell no!!!

People keep saying we'll miss Lukaku - I think we'll miss PO more.  Last season PO started 13 games and we picked up 20 points as opposed to the 25 games he didn't start where we only managed 29 points.
think your missing my point, i think he would just take the p333 again as would bull/mowbray
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 14, 2013, 12:01:14 PM
If he is so great and we will miss him blah blah blah, then why has no one signed him yet? why are we not falling at his feet begging him to stay? why is he training on his own or with the kids? why is he exiled from the Nigerian squad?
He is a 32 yr old baby who has had controversy follow him throughout his career, especially the latter end and certainly someone who i never want to see in our stripes again!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 14, 2013, 12:08:59 PM
In light of the latest Suarez reports, I've tweeted Peter about the possibility of reconciliation. I await the reply....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: stever60 on August 14, 2013, 12:11:29 PM
If he is so great and we will miss him blah blah blah, then why has no one signed him yet? why are we not falling at his feet begging him to stay? why is he training on his own or with the kids? why is he exiled from the Nigerian squad?
He is a 32 yr old baby who has had controversy follow him throughout his career, especially the latter end and certainly someone who i never want to see in our stripes again!
Your opinion; obviously a number on here disagree. With any dispute it takes one side to go the extra mile. The club obviously dont think tthey need to and PO probably doesn't want to. Empass. Still think he was good for the Albion!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 14, 2013, 12:18:59 PM
Your opinion; obviously a number on here disagree. With any dispute it takes one side to go the extra mile. The club obviously dont think tthey need to and PO probably doesn't want to. Empass. Still think he was good for the Albion!
The only bit of that that is opinion is him being a baby and me not wanting to see him again, the rest is fact, he is still here, he is training with the kids and he is exiled from Nigerias squad and controversy has followed him, why is that then in your opinion? It isnt just Albion that doesnt want to go the 'extra mile' with him is it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommcneill on August 14, 2013, 12:19:12 PM
He was great for the Albion.

im starting to lean towards keeping him and seeing the damage he could cause with Anelka
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 14, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
Your opinion; obviously a number on here disagree. With any dispute it takes one side to go the extra mile. The club obviously dont think tthey need to and PO probably doesn't want to. Empass. Still think he was good for the Albion!
I think it's fair to say that the club doesn't want him to stay either. That's not an impasse but something they both agree on it, isn't it?!

I just wish he would go, one way or another, so that we can concentrate on discussing more useful topics.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbadazza on August 14, 2013, 01:04:03 PM
It would hugely depend on the reaction of the dressing room!!!

How many players has he fallen out with??

How many don't speak to him??

Is he welcome back??
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 14, 2013, 01:22:11 PM
I can just see it,
Pete says how sorry he is and declares his undying love for the fans and the club, plays a fw games, scores a few goals.
Fast forward to Jan 1st he turns up on the car park of Fulham/Palace/West Ham/Norwich/Cardiff or one of the other teams in the relegation zone.
Sound familiar?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 14, 2013, 01:39:21 PM
I can just see it,
Pete says how sorry he is and declares his undying love for the fans and the club, plays a fw games, scores a few goals.
Fast forward to Jan 1st he turns up on the car park of Fulham/Palace/West Ham/Norwich/Cardiff or one of the other teams in the relegation zone.
Sound familiar?


Yes its got a ring to it, at least by that time hopefully we will be safe :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on August 14, 2013, 01:48:12 PM
think your missing my point, i think he would just take the p333 again as would bull/mowbray

Not at all - I just don't think it's important - football is a results based business. If he played and scored 30 odd goals next season, got us into Europe or helped us win a cup then played up so he could leave it wouldn't matter.  What matters is performances, goals and points.

It is unfortunate that footballers behave like this today but that is the reality of modern football.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 14, 2013, 01:53:12 PM
I think every think that can be said  by us the fans, either for keeping our getting rid of PO has been said. I admire the loyalty of poster's like Jacko2000 but even he must wish a end to this saga. ::) :-[ :'( :'( 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 14, 2013, 02:33:05 PM
I think every think that can be said  by us the fans, either for keeping our getting rid of PO has been said. I admire the loyalty of poster's like Jacko2000 but even he must wish a end to this saga. ::) :-[ :'( :'(

Not at all mate. While he is still here there is still hope as they say!  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 14, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
I think every think that can be said  by us the fans, either for keeping our getting rid of PO has been said. I admire the loyalty of poster's like Jacko2000 but even he must wish a end to this saga. ::) :-[ :'( :'(
My favoured resolution would be that we utilise an "asset" to west Bromwich albion and let him get back amongst the goals .
Lukaku may be missed but this guy really adds more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 14, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
My favoured resolution would be that we utilise an "asset" to west Bromwich albion and let him get back amongst the goals .
Lukaku may be missed but this guy really adds more.

That would be the best thing, PO can score goals and create chances... its exactly what we need! if we had a team full of players who can do that then i understand the people who are saying "get rid, we hate him, hes this.. hes that" .. but we haven't!

And at this moment in time we have not got any one that can take his place who has proven themself.

He has been a total Penis with all the qpr and twitter drama, but like someone else said... the only difference to him and the majority of most footballers is, PO did it in public, where most would keep it behind closed doors.. like rooney, suarez, bale etc..

The fact is, whether people like it or not... we WILL miss what he brings to the team next season in terms of football, (not twitter!)
I couldn't give a sh*t about an apology, either way im still going to be a baggies fan if he apologises or not and if he's a west brom player or not - If he does stay in the team.. Helping us into around the same position this time next year (or higher than 8th).. will be a good enough apology for me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 14, 2013, 02:57:58 PM
That would be the best thing, PO can score goals and create chances... its exactly what we need! if we had a team full of players who can do that then i understand the people who are saying "get rid, we hate him, hes this.. hes that" .. but we haven't!
I don't care about that - I care about the overriding principle of one player not being seen to be bigger than the club. That, combined with his despicable behaviour, for which he hasn't shown an iota of remorse, means that he simply has to go.

There's no indication that he wants to stay anyway (quite the opposite) and it's crystal clear that Steve Clarke has absolutely no intention of playing him, so we just need to make sure that he goes as soon as possible and then we can all move on.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 14, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
If there was a way back for him he wouldn't have been banished to train on his own or with the youth team. I accept he won't play for this club again and I also accept that there may not be a winner after all this as we may end up paying him for doing nothing for a year.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 14, 2013, 03:06:31 PM
I don't care about that - I care about the overriding principle of one player not being seen to be bigger than the club. That, combined with his despicable behaviour, for which he hasn't shown an iota of remorse, means that he simply has to go.

There's no indication that he wants to stay anyway (quite the opposite) and it's crystal clear that Steve Clarke has absolutely no intention of playing him, so we just need to make sure that he goes as soon as possible and then we can all move on.

Your opinion, everyone is allowed their own :)

but attitude, behavior on twitter and apologies.. dont make a player good.. untill thats what you need to be a good footballer, ill stick to choosing odemwingie over someone who is pooh with a good attitude and licks the fans and bosses arses :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 14, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
Your opinion, everyone is allowed their own :)

but attitude, behavior on twitter and apologies.. dont make a player good.. untill thats what you need to be a good footballer, ill stick to choosing odemwingie over someone who is pooh with a good attitude and licks the fans and bosses arses :)

And i'll choose a professional on and off the pitch every time who accepts football is a team/squad game and is happy to do what is needed for that team.

Why the childish comments about kissing backside ? can you keep that stuff for Facebook please and not on here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 14, 2013, 04:36:10 PM
Your opinion, everyone is allowed their own :)
Indeed, however the only opinions that ultimately count in this are those at the club, and their viewpoint seems pretty clear to me wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 14, 2013, 05:35:37 PM
And i'll choose a professional on and off the pitch every time who accepts football is a team/squad game and is happy to do what is needed for that team.

Why the childish comments about kissing backside ? can you keep that stuff for Facebook please and not on here.

Fair enough, but unfortunately.. we are stuck with odemwingie and regardless of his behavior im happily going to be behind every single one of the west brom players, Unless you can take PO out the team and replace him with a " a professional on and off the pitch every time who accepts football is a team/squad game and is happy to do what is needed for that team."? then i will happily agree with you ...

But as it stands, regardless of how much you hate him, or how much it hurts you seeing people trying to support WEST BROM PLAYERS... he might be playing for us next season.. Unless you have been sitting in on meetings and know 100% he will not play again for us? because the papers and media is a load of bollo*ks

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 14, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
Fair enough, but unfortunately.. we are stuck with odemwingie and regardless of his behavior im happily going to be behind every single one of the west brom players, Unless you can take PO out the team and replace him with a " a professional on and off the pitch every time who accepts football is a team/squad game and is happy to do what is needed for that team."? then i will happily agree with you ...

But as it stands, regardless of how much you hate him, or how much it hurts you seeing people trying to support WEST BROM PLAYERS... he might be playing for us next season.. Unless you have been sitting in on meetings and know 100% he will not play again for us? because the papers and media is a load of bollo*ks

Where have I said I hate anyone ? As for the hurts me to see people support West Brom comment, very immature comment to make.

I don't ask anyone to agree with me and I don't really care if people do, all we as a forum ask is that anyone disagreeing responds in and adult manner and in a respectful way. If not then you will be gone, simple.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on August 14, 2013, 06:18:24 PM
its already been said on here PO has been told he will not play for the club again .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: albion59 on August 14, 2013, 08:16:52 PM
Fair enough, but unfortunately.. we are stuck with odemwingie and regardless of his behavior im happily going to be behind every single one of the west brom players, Unless you can take PO out the team and replace him with a " a professional on and off the pitch every time who accepts football is a team/squad game and is happy to do what is needed for that team."? then i will happily agree with you ...

But as it stands, regardless of how much you hate him, or how much it hurts you seeing people trying to support WEST BROM PLAYERS... he might be playing for us next season.. Unless you have been sitting in on meetings and know 100% he will not play again for us? because the papers and media is a load of bollo*ks
i hate him with a passion!! and he will never play for albion again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 14, 2013, 10:04:52 PM
i hate him with a passion!! and he will never play for albion again.

You got any links where it has been confirmed that he will never play for us again? I need to catch up as im obviously missing out on the news from somewhere
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 14, 2013, 10:08:53 PM
You got any links where it has been confirmed that he will never play for us again? I need to catch up as im obviously missing out on the news from somewhere

It had only been said by an itk on here mate who is usually very reliable. However a clear distaste for Odemwingie comes through loud and clear in his posts so I'm taking that particular piece of information with a large pinch of salt
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_1 on August 14, 2013, 10:09:47 PM
You got any links where it has been confirmed that he will never play for us again? I need to catch up as im obviously missing out on the news from somewhere
snap, yeah i too would like to see this link.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 14, 2013, 10:12:44 PM
It had only been said by an itk on here mate who is usually very reliable. However a clear distaste for Odemwingie comes through loud and clear in his posts so I'm taking that particular piece of information with a large pinch of salt


Oh i see, i thought it had been confirmed he wont play.. as im seeing a load of people saying he might stay and whatever else.. and also seeing many people getting a little touchy about the subject! lol
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 14, 2013, 10:14:24 PM
You got any links where it has been confirmed that he will never play for us again? I need to catch up as im obviously missing out on the news from somewhere
Mentioned on here by a very reliable poster and "loosely" by people at the club, I fully believe when it was said that it was meant but things do change?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 14, 2013, 10:14:43 PM
You got any links where it has been confirmed that he will never play for us again? I need to catch up as im obviously missing out on the news from somewhere
Not hard to find - only a few pages back in this thread:

Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 14, 2013, 10:17:44 PM
I fully believe when it was said that it was meant but things do change?
What signs have you seen that anything has changed with regard to this? What about Steve Clarke yesterday, when talking about our current strikers after Vydra signed - he never mentioned Odemwingie. Do you think Odemwingie will be on the bench on Saturday?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 14, 2013, 10:21:17 PM
What signs have you seen that anything has changed with regard to this? What about Steve Clarke yesterday, when talking about our current strikers after Vydra signed - he never mentioned Odemwingie. Do you think Odemwingie will be on the bench on Saturday?

He wont be in the ground let alone the bench & thank the Lord.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 14, 2013, 11:20:56 PM
He wont be in the ground let alone the bench & thank the Lord.
. Why thank The Lord.? ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 14, 2013, 11:35:48 PM
It had only been said by an itk on here mate who is usually very reliable. However a clear distaste for Odemwingie comes through loud and clear in his posts so I'm taking that particular piece of information with a large pinch of salt

Bit disappointed by some posts in this thread, firstly I am accused of 'hating' Pete by adamw1109 despite never saying that anywhere either online or offline and now you in reply to I guess baggie79 say there is a clear distaste in his posts, i'm struggling to see that, in fact I can't see anywhere he has given his opinion at all other than saying he supports the club in this, all he has done is post what he is told by people who are in a better position to know than the rest of us. If you are not on about Jamie then I apologise.

Out of the 3 biggest campaigners for Pete, I can see only zippy who has not felt the need to have a pop at people who are in the group of not wanting him to stay at the club anymore.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 12:26:43 AM
Bit disappointed by some posts in this thread, firstly I am accused of 'hating' Pete by adamw1109 despite never saying that anywhere either online or offline and now you in reply to I guess baggie79 say there is a clear distaste in his posts, i'm struggling to see that, in fact I can't see anywhere he has given his opinion at all other than saying he supports the club in this, all he has done is post what he is told by people who are in a better position to know than the rest of us. If you are not on about Jamie then I apologise.

Out of the 3 biggest campaigners for Pete, I can see only zippy who has not felt the need to have a pop at people who are in the group of not wanting him to stay at the club anymore.

Sorry mate I think you're a bit out of order here, I haven't slagged off Baggie79, I have purely offered the guy who asked the source my opinion. I appreciate Baggie79's insight into the club and the information he kindly feeds to us, but, these are not the posts of a man who has never given his opinion on the subject:

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: May 04, 2013, 05:09:43 PM »
Couldn't help himself again today could he! Just has to be the story.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: March 18, 2013, 06:21:42 PM »
I said after the January debacle he was an idiot and should never wear the shirt again and this has done nothing more than strengthen these opinions. He is a prize tool and I will be very very disappointed if he ever plays for us again.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:47:41 PM »
I didn't want him to ever get the honor of wearing the shirt again but now he has I will just completely ignore him and disassociate anything he does with the club. I wont waste my time or breath booing him as he aint worth the attention. If others choose to boo or cheer him that's fine with me as it's all about opinions and how we express them.

This is purely to illustrate the point I made in my previous post and you highlighting said post as 'having a pop', in no way should it be considered an attack on Baggie79.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 15, 2013, 12:34:05 AM
Sorry mate I think you're a bit out of order here, I haven't slagged off Baggie79, I have purely offered the guy who asked the source my opinion. I appreciate Baggie79's insight into the club and the information he kindly feeds to us, but, these are not the posts of a man who has never given his opinion on the subject:

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: May 04, 2013, 05:09:43 PM »
Couldn't help himself again today could he! Just has to be the story.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: March 18, 2013, 06:21:42 PM »
I said after the January debacle he was an idiot and should never wear the shirt again and this has done nothing more than strengthen these opinions. He is a prize tool and I will be very very disappointed if he ever plays for us again.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:47:41 PM »
I didn't want him to ever get the honor of wearing the shirt again but now he has I will just completely ignore him and disassociate anything he does with the club. I wont waste my time or breath booing him as he aint worth the attention. If others choose to boo or cheer him that's fine with me as it's all about opinions and how we express them.

This is purely to illustrate the point I made in my previous post and you highlighting said post as 'having a pop', in no way should it be considered an attack on Baggie79.

Not out of order at all. I didn't feel the need to go digging back to March to look at someones posts to try to justify myself. I go on what is posted recently and nowhere do Jamies comments suggest anything other than what he has been told. The fact that there are 4 months between those posts and his current ones meant you had to do a bit of digging or have an excellent memory.

I stand by what I say, only zippy has not felt the need to have a pop at others who do not share the views of the 3 biggest Pete campaigners.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 12:41:50 AM
Not out of order at all. I didn't feel the need to go digging back to March to look at someones posts to try to justify myself. I go on what is posted recently and nowhere do Jamies comments suggest anything other than what he has been told. The fact that there are 4 months between those posts and his current ones meant you had to do a bit of digging or have an excellent memory.

I stand by what I say, only zippy has not felt the need to have a pop at others who do not share the views of the 3 biggest Pete campaigners.

I obviously went back to get the quotes but I knew they were there, I wouldn't have posted what I had if I didn't. I'm not out to defrock anyone mate, I just say it as I see it and in this case why would Odemwingie's situation be leaked out to sources , but not to the press... Or the fans. And indeed why has the man himself been quiet about the situation.

Furthermore if this window closes and Odemwingie remains, the club has no choice but to allow him to train with the first team again. Stan Collymore went through something similar under John Gregory and it violates numerous European Employment Laws, at the minute we can get away with it because we don't want him privy to our preparations for the new season, we cannot do it indefinitely.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 15, 2013, 12:49:40 AM
I still fail to see where in either of the posts Jamie has posted about Pete being told he will not play for the club again he has let any feelings through:

 Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.


He has been told several times by the club since the end of the season that he will never play for the club again so please drop the notion that he is going to make some  miraculous comeback, it just is not going to happen.


I hope he goes no question, if he is allowed back into the squad especially on a matchday it again splits the fans causing more problems. at a time where the season will be tough and the fans need to get behind the team. I've never known a player or even manager split the fans as much as this has done.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 15, 2013, 12:55:13 AM
I still fail to see where in either of the posts Jamie has posted about Pete being told he will not play for the club again he has let any feelings through:

 Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.


He has been told several times by the club since the end of the season that he will never play for the club again so please drop the notion that he is going to make some  miraculous comeback, it just is not going to happen.


I hope he goes no question, if he is allowed back into the squad especially on a matchday it again splits the fans causing more problems. at a time where the season will be tough and the fans need to get behind the team. I've never known a player or even manager split the fans as much as this has done.

Without it sounding like im "having a pop" (like OldburyWBA seems to think i am)... Has anyone got a link to where this is from? im not talking rumours from sources, im talking FACTS?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 12:56:22 AM
I still fail to see where in either of the posts Jamie has posted about Pete being told he will not play for the club again he has let any feelings through:

 Ok lets try this one more time. As I said last week it is a FACT that Pete has been told by the club that he will NEVER play for us again no matter what, CL has even said the same today to back this up. Even if he does not get sold this window it will be the next one, the club have made a stance and they will not change their mind and I for one fully support this. Nobody is bigger than this club no matter how talented they are.

He has been told several times by the club since the end of the season that he will never play for the club again so please drop the notion that he is going to make some  miraculous comeback, it just is not going to happen.


I hope he goes no question, if he is allowed back into the squad especially on a matchday it again splits the fans causing more problems. at a time where the season will be tough and the fans need to get behind the team. I've never known a player or even manager split the fans as much as this has done.

Okay I've gone back to my post and now I understand your confusion and rebuttal of what I have said.

It had only been said by an itk on here mate who is usually very reliable. However a clear distaste for Odemwingie comes through loud and clear in his posts so I'm taking that particular piece of information with a large pinch of salt

I meant posts generic not specific, as in not the posts where he specifically said Odemwingie had been told he would never play for the club again. But more generally posts he has made regarding Peter Odemwingie overall.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 15, 2013, 12:57:32 AM
I didn't accuse you of having a pop at anyone other than me.

As for the comment, if its posted by someone who is known to be itk you will not have a link.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 15, 2013, 12:58:45 AM
Okay I've gone back to my post and now I understand your confusion and rebuttal of what I have said.

I meant posts generic not specific, as in not the posts where he specifically said Odemwingie had been told he would never play for the club again. But more generally posts he has made regarding Peter Odemwingie overall.

No problem, i'm not confused though honest  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 01:01:14 AM
No problem, i'm not confused though honest  :D

Well we got there in the end...  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 15, 2013, 01:01:52 AM
I didn't accuse you of having a pop at anyone other than me.

As for the comment, if its posted by someone who is known to be itk you will not have a link.

Fair enough.

I guess we will all see how it all pans out sooner or later! 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 01:06:10 AM
Fair enough.

I guess we will all see how it all pans out sooner or later!

Nothing is set in stone mate. Tevez the prime example, but also Kevin Pietersen in cricket, and you're about to see a spectacular u-turn from Luis Suarez.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 15, 2013, 01:14:06 AM
Well im sure we can rely on jeremy peace to do the right thing!  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 15, 2013, 09:55:13 AM
Bit disappointed by some posts in this thread, firstly I am accused of 'hating' Pete by adamw1109 despite never saying that anywhere either online or offline and now you in reply to I guess baggie79 say there is a clear distaste in his posts, i'm struggling to see that, in fact I can't see anywhere he has given his opinion at all other than saying he supports the club in this, all he has done is post what he is told by people who are in a better position to know than the rest of us. If you are not on about Jamie then I apologise.

Out of the 3 biggest campaigners for Pete, I can see only zippy who has not felt the need to have a pop at people who are in the group of not wanting him to stay at the club anymore.
you big softie  :-*
Listen I think at times people let their own personal emotions come to the front , some clearly now have a dislike , some still don't mind him and some (inc myself) see him for what he actually is , a commodity / asset that the business that is WBA has invested (and continues to do so ) heavily and there fore if he is not moving on we should utilise .
clearly the whole subject is very emotive put we should all really be able to play nicely ?There is one thing for sure , when we all fall out/come to blows the Nigerian striker will not come running with a first aid kit?
On another note I would state that Mr baggie79 is very reliable and now (without dragging up reasons) is one of very few on here that has ears to the ground , my point re the club saying pete will never play again is the things do change , a week in politics and all that ?
Anyway love him / hate him , we can still be civil to each other and save all the bile for that lot from witton ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 15, 2013, 10:35:15 AM
you big softie  :-*
Listen I think at times people let their own personal emotions come to the front , some clearly now have a dislike , some still don't mind him and some (inc myself) see him for what he actually is , a commodity / asset that the business that is WBA has invested (and continues to do so ) heavily and there fore if he is not moving on we should utilise .
clearly the whole subject is very emotive put we should all really be able to play nicely ?There is one thing for sure , when we all fall out/come to blows the Nigerian striker will not come running with a first aid kit?
On another note I would state that Mr baggie79 is very reliable and now (without dragging up reasons) is one of very few on here that has ears to the ground , my point re the club saying pete will never play again is the things do change , a week in politics and all that ?
Anyway love him / hate him , we can still be civil to each other and save all the bile for that lot from witton ?

 :D

I lose interest in any posts when the insults and such comments start flowing, any point trying to be made is worthless if folk can't post properly.

My position hasn't changed, hoping he goes before the window closes, I do think he will on either a season loan or a sale for undisclosed fee. If he is still here then we deal with it but it is guaranteed to ruin atmosphere on the matchday which is something we don't need at the start of a season. He would only be an asset if he actually wants to be here and fight for a place regardless of position he is asked to play, if hes a problem to staff or other players then he is not as much of an asset as he could be, big risk to take possibly.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 15, 2013, 11:25:06 AM
. Why thank The Lord.? ::)

This chap would KILL the vibe within the ground & put a damper on the game before we had even kicked off
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 15, 2013, 11:26:48 AM
3 weeks left to get rid
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on August 15, 2013, 12:24:16 PM
3 weeks left to get rid

This is why I think he may play again - we have 3 weeks to sell and replace PO.  Clarke/Peace has taken him out of the shop window by banishing him to the reserves, so the longer a prospective buyer leaves it the more likely we are to take a cut down price - someone may come in late in the day knowing they can get a cut down price as we don't want him.  But it is more likely he is still here in 3 weeks, then we pick up 1 or 2 injuries and we're playing kids from the youth team or PO is back in.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 15, 2013, 12:55:04 PM
This is why I think he may play again - we have 3 weeks to sell and replace PO.  Clarke/Peace has taken him out of the shop window by banishing him to the reserves, so the longer a prospective buyer leaves it the more likely we are to take a cut down price - someone may come in late in the day knowing they can get a cut down price as we don't want him.  But it is more likely he is still here in 3 weeks, then we pick up 1 or 2 injuries and we're playing kids from the youth team or PO is back in.

You have a good point there...
But we all know if that happens.. he will come on, get boo'd, be selfish, shoot from wherever he likes, not pass the ball around and try and win the game on his own... Then be more hated for being selfish, he really has got a lot to prove to the majority of fans if he gets another chance and i cant see him doing himself any favours tbh
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 15, 2013, 01:00:02 PM
Personally think JP is waiting for the "Panic Buy Brigade" to strike up , for all Pete's baggage and history he scores goals when his head is right so somebody will lump up £2 /3 million IMO
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 15, 2013, 01:13:00 PM
I think we will see movement very quickly next week , some of the clubs that are "expected" to be around the relegation area could lose/sustain an injury this opening weekend and that could motivate some interest .
He still has the option to buy out his own contract then sign on a free , I could still see that ?

If / When he does go there is a space to fill ....still have a hunch on Lukaku.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 15, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
To anyone who thinks poor old Pete is being forced out and picked on and has a chance of coming back and being a hero:

Manager Steve Clarke confirms Peter Odemwingie hasn't trained with 1st team all summer, and that "Peter wants to leave"
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 15, 2013, 02:17:34 PM
To anyone who thinks poor old Pete is being forced out and picked on and has a chance of coming back and being a hero:

Manager Steve Clarke confirms Peter Odemwingie hasn't trained with 1st team all summer, and that "Peter wants to leave"



and whats the betting he wants to leave this time next year too
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 02:22:23 PM
To anyone who thinks poor old Pete is being forced out and picked on and has a chance of coming back and being a hero:

Manager Steve Clarke confirms Peter Odemwingie hasn't trained with 1st team all summer, and that "Peter wants to leave"

Which is vastly different to being told BY the club he will never play for us again. It also offers up the potential of a player u-turn that has been mooted by a few of us on here.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tommi on August 15, 2013, 02:23:50 PM
To anyone who thinks poor old Pete is being forced out and picked on and has a chance of coming back and being a hero:

Manager Steve Clarke confirms Peter Odemwingie hasn't trained with 1st team all summer, and that "Peter wants to leave"

Finally, I am so glad you have posted this.

Weeks of reading some people saying they "can see a way back for him" or "think he will still be here" or "a public apology will do it" has been winding me right up!!

This all started with Pete wanting to leave.

He is a confidence player as we all know, he will NEVER get the crowd behind him like he used to, maybe a few will forgive him but should he ever play (which he wont) he will be booed. He doesnt like the not being cheered, fired up, he is quite an emotionally sensitive chap by all accounts.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 15, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
Which is vastly different to being told BY the club he will never play for us again. It also offers up the potential of a player u-turn that has been mooted by a few of us on here.
The chance for a u-turn was February, more chance of peace in Egypt than a truce here!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 15, 2013, 02:37:50 PM
The chance for a u-turn was February, more chance of peace in Egypt than a truce here!



So that's where he is then.He should be here help tying up some deals
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 15, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Which is vastly different to being told BY the club he will never play for us again. It also offers up the potential of a player u-turn that has been mooted by a few of us on here.

A VERY FEW indeed not the majority
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
A VERY FEW indeed not the majority

Possibly the most pointless post I've ever seen. My post SAID few...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 15, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Possibly the most pointless post I've ever seen. My post SAID few...

Pete has a few posters who think that without him we will go down you seem to be one of them, thou I would hate to see us go down I would sooner wish that than see him play for us ever again by the way I believe we will finish top half of the table again at the end of the season with the squad has it stands now.
The prem may be the behall for some but the club means more to me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
Possibly the most pointless post I've ever seen. My post SAID few...

Pete has a few posters who think that without him we will go down you seem to be one of them, thou I would hate to see us go down I would sooner wish that than see him play for us ever again by the way I believe we will finish top half of the table again at the end of the season with the squad has it stands now.
The prem may be the behall for some but the club means more to me.

2nd post in a row you have put words in my mouth. I actually think we will be strong this season with Anelka and Vydra up front, but it is critical that Chris Brunt stays fit. As to Odemwingie I simply don't feel what he has done deserves the vilification he has received and none of our targets are any better than him.

If we signed a proven Premier League striker who scores a goal every 2.9 games and can also play wide on a free we would all be delighted. That is effectively what we would be doing if you reintegrated Odemwingie into the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: superkev on August 15, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
HEAR HEAR!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: breakfastbaggie on August 15, 2013, 03:42:28 PM
I really don't understand the comment you'd rather be relegated than have Pete on the team and stay up if it came to that.  Seriously Geoff you can't possibly believe that.

I agree that with or without Pete the team is strong enough that it won't be relegated.  Professional athletes look after themselves first.  There is very little loyalty from a player to the team.  When I think about professional athletes I don't consider them an intelligent lot as a whole.  They have massive egos and Pete thought he should be playing more and wasn't utilised properly.  He saw what he perceived to be an opportunity to get out and make more money and did some ridiculous things and said some ridiculous things on twitter....blah..blah..blah.   I don't for a second disagree with the way the gaffer was using him, but I can see how Pete would have disagreed.

I only care about wins and acknowledge that on any given squad there are more than a few that won't be angels.  As a fan I want victories.   The team is attempting to replace the qualities Pete can bring to help bring victories.  With limited financial resources, if you can't replace him keep him and use him.  If the team is able to land Sinclair fine, be rid of Odemwingie, but in the absence of that acquisition hold on to Pete and let this low down dirty unlikeable guy come on in the 70th minute of close games and score goals that will lead to points for WBA in the standings.   There are worse things than that surely.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 15, 2013, 04:05:27 PM
Pete has a few posters who think that without him we will go down you seem to be one of them, thou I would hate to see us go down I would sooner wish that than see him play for us ever again by the way I believe we will finish top half of the table again at the end of the season with the squad has it stands now.
The prem may be the behall for some but the club means more to me.


2nd post in a row you have put words in my mouth. I actually think we will be strong this season with Anelka and Vydra up front, but it is critical that Chris Brunt stays fit. As to Odemwingie I simply don't feel what he has done deserves the vilification he has received and none of our targets are any better than him.

If we signed a proven Premier League striker who scores a goal every 2.9 games and can also play wide on a free we would all be delighted. That is effectively what we would be doing if you reintegrated Odemwingie into the club.
If only it was as simple as just reintergrating into the squad, he has single handedly p!ssed off the dressing room, the staff, the chairman and majority of fans in his desire to leave and the way he went about it, he has not trained all pre season and STILL has a desire to leave as confirmed by SC today, this desire is now into its 3rd season since Hodgson dared question his injuries! He is a rotton apple all the way through and the window has now been open for 3 months and not one bid has officially been made for him, not one international reintergration and no chance of one at club level neither, now ask yourself why if he is this great player to have and keep why is no-one doing just that? He is nothing short of a diva who spits his dummy out to get what he wants but this time its failed miserably.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: breakfastbaggie on August 15, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
I am willing to capitulate and acknowledge that only Steve Clarke knows if his talent on the field is outweighed by his unwillingness to put out full effort or to distract taking away from their efforts of others on the team to the point where his natural ability results in an overall negative in terms of producing points.  I trust in Steve Clarke to work those issues out if at all possible.   The fact that he has not been moved makes me wonder why and if a reconciliation of some sort is possible.  The reconciliation I could see would be one of we don't like you and you don't like us, but you want to score goals for your next contract and we want you to score goals to help us get points.  Time will tell how this plays out, but if pete isn't moved before the window closes and does actually find his way back on the pitch I will cheer every goal by him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: matt_home1 on August 15, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
I think Pete will end up at crystal palace of hull personally
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 15, 2013, 04:43:19 PM
I am willing to capitulate and acknowledge that only Steve Clarke knows if his talent on the field is outweighed by his unwillingness to put out full effort or to distract taking away from their efforts of others on the team to the point where his natural ability results in an overall negative in terms of producing points.  I trust in Steve Clarke to work those issues out if at all possible.   The fact that he has not been moved makes me wonder why and if a reconciliation of some sort is possible.  The reconciliation I could see would be one of we don't like you and you don't like us, but you want to score goals for your next contract and we want you to score goals to help us get points.  Time will tell how this plays out, but if pete isn't moved before the window closes and does actually find his way back on the pitch I will cheer every goal by him.
He has barely played since January and has not kicked a ball in anger all pre season so the only fact he has not moved on is no one has come in for him nothing to do with us keeping him for any reason, if that was the case he would be training with the first team and playing pre season games (as is Dorrans who to my knowledge is still available for transfer) even if he did come out and apologise and all was forgiven, Gera is closer to being MATCH fit than Odemwingie so would be no use to us anyway. The sooner he is off the wage bill the better and if his only replacement is Berahino then I would still be happier than seeing him in the stripes again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 15, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
Sorry mate I think you're a bit out of order here, I haven't slagged off Baggie79, I have purely offered the guy who asked the source my opinion. I appreciate Baggie79's insight into the club and the information he kindly feeds to us, but, these are not the posts of a man who has never given his opinion on the subject:

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: May 04, 2013, 05:09:43 PM »
Couldn't help himself again today could he! Just has to be the story.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: March 18, 2013, 06:21:42 PM »
I said after the January debacle he was an idiot and should never wear the shirt again and this has done nothing more than strengthen these opinions. He is a prize tool and I will be very very disappointed if he ever plays for us again.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Peter Odemwingie
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:47:41 PM »
I didn't want him to ever get the honor of wearing the shirt again but now he has I will just completely ignore him and disassociate anything he does with the club. I wont waste my time or breath booing him as he aint worth the attention. If others choose to boo or cheer him that's fine with me as it's all about opinions and how we express them.

This is purely to illustrate the point I made in my previous post and you highlighting said post as 'having a pop', in no way should it be considered an attack on Baggie79.

Just to confirm, I think Pete is a fantastically talented individual player and always had my support when he wore the shirt until he did what he did, after that I did not change my opinion of him as a player but as a proud Albion fan I just did not want him anywhere near the club no matter how good he is as I strongly feel the club is bigger than any player and we should never give into a player even if it costs us financially or otherwise. Any comments of mine criticizing him were purely made because he has taken the club and fans for mugs.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aztech on August 15, 2013, 08:13:58 PM
Just to confirm, I think Pete is a fantastically talented individual player and always had my support when he wore the shirt until he did what he did, after that I did not change my opinion of him as a player but as a proud Albion fan I just did not want him anywhere near the club no matter how good he is as I strongly feel the club is bigger than any player and we should never give into a player even if it costs us financially or otherwise. Any comments of mine criticizing him were purely made because he has taken the club and fans for mugs.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tucka9 on August 15, 2013, 08:24:08 PM
Just to confirm, I think Pete is a fantastically talented individual player and always had my support when he wore the shirt until he did what he did, after that I did not change my opinion of him as a player but as a proud Albion fan I just did not want him anywhere near the club no matter how good he is as I strongly feel the club is bigger than any player and we should never give into a player even if it costs us financially or otherwise. Any comments of mine criticizing him were purely made because he has taken the club and fans for mugs.

Best post I've read on here for a while.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie82 on August 15, 2013, 08:32:04 PM
His record for us is 30 goals in 87 appearances which is phenomenal, particularly for a player who spent last season being played out of position on the wing. We won't be able to replace that which means as a club we shall suffer. He might be a "tool", no doubt he was maverick but as a club Hodgson smeared him by claiming he was faking injury and then Clarke annoyed him by refusing to play him up front.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: socalbaggie on August 15, 2013, 08:58:51 PM
For me if I thought for two seconds PO could get past all this I would have him back in the squad!! We all know he could perform at this level, his first two seasons were great and his goals were crucial to our success. Having said that I just don't trust he would be the same player if he were to get back in the side and his brief spells on the pitch second half of the season showed that, he just wasn't playing as if he was on a team he seemed more interested in PO and making himself look good to catch the eye of any interested clubs! So as I agree if this whole fiasco could be put behind and the old PO were to play then great we as a club would only benefit but that won't be the case so he needs to go and not being part of pre-season at all just shows that no doubt he won't be playing a part anyway!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 15, 2013, 09:05:26 PM
Forget the like or dislike argument.
Straight forward question .
If no one comes in (or pays what we want) and he won't buy himself out , what do we think will happen ?
Play again or not ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on August 15, 2013, 09:10:26 PM
To sum up the last 100 pages of responses to this thread:

- Pete is talented.
- He scored goals for us, some important.
- He did a bad thing that some can or can't forgive.
- Some would let him play again but struggle to see how he can re-integrate.
- The majority wouldn't let him play again.
- The club refuses to sell him at anything under our valuation.

So unless he gets sold, can we stop repeating the same thing over and over and over again? I get it's a slow news week/month/summer but there is no reason to repeat the same thing since January. I can't be the only one seeing a sudden influx in replies and hoping this issue is finally put to bed or there is news on his transfer - with this being a transfer topic.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 15, 2013, 09:22:24 PM
To sum up the last 100 pages of responses to this thread:

- Pete is talented.
- He scored goals for us, some important.
- He did a bad thing that some can or can't forgive.
- Some would let him play again but struggle to see how he can re-integrate.
- The majority wouldn't let him play again.
- The club refuses to sell him at anything under our valuation.

So unless he gets sold, can we stop repeating the same thing over and over and over again? I get it's a slow news week/month/summer but there is no reason to repeat the same thing since January. I can't be the only one seeing a sudden influx in replies and hoping this issue is finally put to bed or there is news on his transfer - with this being a transfer topic.

I wish the mods would simply lock this boring thread until PO leaves.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 09:25:38 PM
I wish the mods would simply lock this boring thread until PO leaves.

Don't see the problem with speculating, we've got brand new information on the Odemwingie situation today.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 15, 2013, 10:18:59 PM
Palace are getting desperate having lost out to Fulham for Darren Bent, while Swansea have confirmed this evening that they want to sign another striker before the window closes. Having invested heavily already Odemwhinger might be an ideal cheaper option.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 15, 2013, 10:32:13 PM
We'd be crazy to sell to Swansea.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 15, 2013, 10:53:15 PM
We'd be crazy to sell to Swansea.

The player himself has says he is determined to sign for another Premiership Club. We are determined to sell, so that being the case it doesn't really matter which club he signs for in this division. He is liable to come back and haunt us with any club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on August 15, 2013, 10:56:20 PM
Someone will cough up the cash at the death.some team will get desperate and pay what mr peace wants
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie82 on August 15, 2013, 11:07:22 PM
I'd rather sell him abroad for 1.5m than to a league rival for 3m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johhnybaggies 4life on August 15, 2013, 11:10:22 PM
i personally do not think that PO is stupid enough to have tried to just force a move down to QPR, not denying he may have been thinking about having more money, but if your  footballer would you turn down more or less double your wage? i think not,and another note, Rafa Benitez was hated by Chelsea fans when he took over, but they overlooked it and forgave him, IMO people have took this too far for too long, he must have been given a nod by somebody? but albion obviously thought we might've been able to get something out of the deal, yes no player is bigger than the club,  but i think say roughly 16,000 fans vs 1 man is it unfair and everyone is saying they want the old PO back, well give him the bloody chance to shine again and he may do so, all IMO!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mateinone on August 16, 2013, 06:55:39 AM
I'd rather sell him abroad for 1.5m than to a league rival for 3m.

I agree with this, helping another team finish above us is crazy... A team on the top 6? No worries at all (not that they would want him most likely), but a genuine rival... no way
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on August 16, 2013, 08:23:57 AM
stoke after a striker , not so far to drive to get a deal done  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 16, 2013, 08:52:39 AM
stoke after a striker , not so far to drive to get a deal done  :D



What Stoke sign a reject from us, there will be uproar in the potters household
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 16, 2013, 09:34:12 AM


What Stoke sign a reject from us, there will be uproar in the potters household
hes definitely not a reject , although he has been rejected  :D

The Swansea one could have legs, get pete in and .....sell Michu , at some point they have to get some money back in so 1.5-2m for pete then sell michu for 12m ?, could work well with bony?
Stoke I just cant see but you never know, hope not because as they are they will be in the dropzone.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on August 16, 2013, 09:53:32 AM
I can see it on sky sports news odemwingie watch he's left Albions training ground no sorry Steve Clarke has booted him out of the ground and his been stopped by sky's reportDr whom he informes that he's going to his new club, but can't name them were the management has told him that the team will be built around him and he is to geta bonus for keeping them in the league but it ain't about the money
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 16, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
if anyone fancies an outside bet?
Doncaster on loan.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bob on August 16, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
If he doesn't go by the 2nd then i'm sure a loan deal to a Championship club would be on the cards.

I'm in the "wouldn't mind him playing for us again" camp but its not going to happen. To many bridges have been burnt.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: djmark on August 16, 2013, 11:18:28 AM
I would have been all for PO playing again. However, he has had all summer to try and make amends and get himself back into the pre-season squad. The guy has made no effort to put himself back in the west brom fold.

If he's happy to spend his time rotting in the reserves, then he's more of a t##t than i thought.

Its over!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tjmill on August 16, 2013, 12:16:53 PM
Cant actually believe PO is still here?! he has had all summer to get a move and still here! Hasnt trained with the first team or had an pre season games so wont be fit for whoever he ends up at. Looks like it will go down to the last day of the window then whoever is desperate will take him. No one clearly wants him enough the pay the 2m fee
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on August 16, 2013, 12:40:16 PM
Cant actually believe PO is still here?! he has had all summer to get a move and still here! Hasnt trained with the first team or had an pre season games so wont be fit for whoever he ends up at. Looks like it will go down to the last day of the window then whoever is desperate will take him. No one clearly wants him enough the pay the 2m fee

Seeing as his wage is a reported £38kpw his 6 months of sitting around doing nothing have cost us about £2million....

Having said that, i'm 100% behind our approach and this is a short-term loss for a long term gain in regards to others learning from Pete's mistake.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Legend on August 17, 2013, 08:43:59 PM
I would have him back, our Premier League survival could be riding on it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 17, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
Lose v Everton and Swansea and the clammer for reselection will get bigger?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on August 17, 2013, 08:51:42 PM
I would have him back, our Premier League survival could be riding on it.
I'd be further disillusioned with the state of the game.  Football used to be more than just about winning. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 17, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
I found it interesting that they haven't vacated his squad number, I suspect this is still very player driven.

I'd be further disillusioned with the state of the game.  Football used to be more than just about winning. 

Really? Pretty sure Shankly didn't see it that way...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 17, 2013, 08:53:39 PM
I'd be further disillusioned with the state of the game.  Football used to be more than just about winning.
Used to
Being the correct use of the phrase.
Plain and simple, he offers something we don't have?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 17, 2013, 08:57:15 PM
Tevez apologised and was welcomed back to the fold, and so was Suarez. Both are world class players. PO is not, but if he apologised surely there should be some way of getting him back involved. Judging by today's shambles we could certainly do with him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 17, 2013, 09:01:54 PM
Used to
Being the correct use of the phrase.
Plain and simple, he offers something we don't have?
Don't forget this is the bloke who cost us any chance in the game at Fulham with a stupid challenge and followed up with plenty more stupid acts as the season went on. He's great when he's fully awake and his brain is in gear (approx 20% of the time he's on the pitch).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 17, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
God a lot of people on here are very bitter and twisted considered at the end of the day it's just WORDS and was not directed at anyone individual outside the club .so let it be delt with in house ,and stop this kangaroo court .If he goes so be it but if there was a way  back than except it ,but according to Baggie 79  he'll never play again  so it will be a great  footballing loss  :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 17, 2013, 09:14:44 PM
Don't forget this is the bloke who cost us any chance in the game at Fulham with a stupid challenge and followed up with plenty more stupid acts as the season went on. He's great when he's fully awake and his brain is in gear (approx 20% of the time he's on the pitch).
You could add in Olssons performances after Christmas, Ridgwells lack of closing down crosses, maybe even most of the first team have had indiscretions , the truth is not many of them have/can turn a game with the effect pete can?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 17, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
You could add in Olssons performances after Christmas, Ridgwells lack of closing down crosses, maybe even most of the first team have had indiscretions , the truth is not many of them have/can turn a game with the effect pete can?
You can't seriously compare Olsson and Ridgewell's dodgy periods of form with the Pete situation ? I don't doubt Pete's potential ability but we now need to move on and  replace him as best we can - and judge whoever may be brought in (Sinclair or whoever) when they have had ample time to prove their worth.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 17, 2013, 09:33:27 PM
You can't seriously compare Olsson and Ridgewell's dodgy periods of form with the Pete situation ? I don't doubt Pete's potential ability but we now need to move on and  replace him as best we can - and judge whoever may be brought in (Sinclair or whoever) when they have had ample time to prove their worth.

Quite the opposite, I think we need to go cap in hand to Peter Odemwingie, make him feel wanted, get him back on side and signed up to a new deal and get two or three good years out of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 17, 2013, 09:36:19 PM
Quite the opposite, I think we need to go cap in hand to Peter Odemwingie, make him feel wanted, get him back on side and signed up to a new deal and get two or three good years out of him.
Even if he signed a new improved deal, he'd be bored again within 2 months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 17, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
Even if he signed a new improved deal, he'd be bored again within 2 months.
.  Sounds like you are an expert in physiology you should make an appointment to see him
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Ben1983 on August 17, 2013, 10:18:43 PM
Are you guys crazy?  He can rot!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 17, 2013, 10:19:40 PM
.  Sounds like you are an expert in physiology you should make an appointment to see him
I guess you mean psychology....nope I'm not an expert, just a hunch based on his time with us
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 17, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
Are you guys crazy?  He can rot!

I'm going to assume you didn't see todays game?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on August 17, 2013, 10:37:11 PM
I'll be the first to admit we were crying out for an odemwingie type player today, but I still don't want him near our squad. The sooner Sinclair signs the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 17, 2013, 10:54:55 PM
You can't seriously compare Olsson and Ridgewell's dodgy periods of form with the Pete situation ? I don't doubt Pete's potential ability but we now need to move on and  replace him as best we can - and judge whoever may be brought in (Sinclair or whoever) when they have had ample time to prove their worth.
I didn't , I compared them to pete costing us the game at Fulham?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 17, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
I'm going to assume you didn't see todays game?
I Did and imo he wouldn't have done much better than Long or Anelka on those hopeless punts upfield.Today was tough going and we all know when the going gets tough Pete is nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 17, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
I Did and imo he wouldn't have done much better than Long or Anelka on those hopeless punts upfield.Today was tough going and we all know when the going gets tough Pete is nowhere to be seen.
He wouldn't have played in those positions?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 17, 2013, 11:02:58 PM
He wouldn't have played in those positions?
Thats where he wants to play going on one of his last outbursts, in all honesty you can say the same for wide right.Good player but not much of a fighter in time of need.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 17, 2013, 11:13:37 PM
I guess you mean psychology....nope I'm not an expert, just a hunch based on his time with us
  had a few beers drowned my sorrows lol  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 18, 2013, 03:04:52 AM
PO is a good player but he is also poison. His self absorption is the reason he hasn't played for a top team even if he has the talent to.

We still have time to fix our squad balance and save the season, but we need to move past PO and ship him out.

Let's hope we don't see him in our shirt again because if we do, things are utterly desperate and we have hit the panic button.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 18, 2013, 09:27:28 PM
Napoli interested apparently

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2013/08/napoli-linked-with-swoop-for-west-bromwich-albion-striker/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 18, 2013, 09:30:04 PM
Napoli interested apparently

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2013/08/napoli-linked-with-swoop-for-west-bromwich-albion-striker/


Ideal for all parties concerned
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 18, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
Given the first taste that the promoted teams have had this weekend, I'll be amazed if none of them come back in for Pete
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 18, 2013, 09:45:40 PM

Ideal for all parties concerned

No chance!

"Napoli coach Rafa Benitez is being linked with a move for West Bromwich Albion striker Peter Odemwingie as his search for a backup striker continues."

We all know he wont go anywhere to sit on the bench and be a back up striker.

We need him more than they do
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 18, 2013, 09:58:04 PM
No we need him sold. Accept £2m and save another £2m wages and get someone else in who will actually play and strengthen the current team (are we really expecting normal service to be resumed with Pete ???).
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_1 on August 18, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
I know most people wont agree but my god I would put pete back in the squad based on that performance yesterday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 19, 2013, 08:02:16 AM
I know most people wont agree but my god I would put pete back in the squad based on that performance yesterday.

Spot on mate.


Most people wont agree with you!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JDWest_Brom on August 19, 2013, 08:58:56 AM
The game on Saturday was screaming out for a player like Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on August 19, 2013, 09:03:40 AM
I think he'll go to Palace on deadline day.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 19, 2013, 09:08:17 AM
I think he'll go to Palace on deadline day.


What drive down and wait :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 6rudgej on August 19, 2013, 10:24:03 AM
Bet Pete was laughing into his Guinness at the way we played Saturday! could have done with him if the truth be known. I reckon peace will only spend money once he's been sold which, as others have suggested, will be late on in the window.....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on August 19, 2013, 12:08:50 PM
Spot on mate.


Most people wont agree with you!

After Saturday's performance more and more people are agreeing with him.

Imagine (hypothetically of course) that SC plays PO vs Newport in the cup and he has a stormer- does the bring PO back bandwagon get even bigger????
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 19, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
Does Odemwingie want to play for us? If he did don't you think he would have swallowed his pride, apologize to the club and the fans. He has had enough time to do it!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charliemike on August 19, 2013, 12:36:37 PM
How anyone could believe he should play for us again sickens me . 38k per week and he has wanted away for 18 months . Fans he stinks full stop . He should have gone in January . Sooner he is gone the better.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on August 19, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
How anyone could believe he should play for us again sickens me . 38k per week and he has wanted away for 18 months . Fans he stinks full stop . He should have gone in January . Sooner he is gone the better.
If his goals were the difference to staying up rather than going down I know what i would go for regardless of the last 8 months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 19, 2013, 01:49:38 PM
If his goals were the difference to staying up rather than going down I know what i would go for regardless of the last 8 months.


Same here.Not many footballers give a toss about the fans but most the fans want to watch the greed league
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on August 19, 2013, 02:05:58 PM

Same here.Not many footballers give a toss about the fans but most the fans want to watch the greed league

Plus look at Liverpool - they are about to welcome Suarez back. Two weeks ago everyone in Scouseland wanted him gone. Fickle or what? I will be fickle too if Pete scores the goals Lukaku scored for us last year!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on August 19, 2013, 02:30:28 PM
ive always liked PO, id have him back in our team in an instant, yes he hasnt been the best person with attitude etc, but his quality and pace he would be first on my team sheet.

ive spoke to him over twitter,but cant find the conversation now, things he was telling me really opened my eyes and saw that it maybe wasnt him that forced the move, wrong info from agent and DA apparantly.

i would be happy if he apologised, and played for us again. probably get shot down for saying this, but he could be our star man if he puts his mind to it!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 19, 2013, 02:37:05 PM
ive always liked PO, id have him back in our team in an instant, yes he hasnt been the best person with attitude etc, but his quality and pace he would be first on my team sheet.

ive spoke to him over twitter,but cant find the conversation now, things he was telling me really opened my eyes and saw that it maybe wasnt him that forced the move, wrong info from agent and DA apparantly.

i would be happy if he apologised, and played for us again. probably get shot down for saying this, but he could be our star man if he puts his mind to it!

I spoke to him on twitter as well after he sent me messages after reading my tweets and in his words 'sensing my disappointment in him'. I told him all he had to do was keep it shut on twitter and keep it inhouse regardless of who was to blame and to be fair he did admit he had overdone it on Twitter. We are only hearing his version, no doubt there are two sides and both sides have been at fault along the line whether mis-understandings or not but only one chose to air his dirty linen and that one has previous history of it.

He won't apologise though, there's the issue.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 19, 2013, 02:39:15 PM
I spoke to him on twitter as well after he sent me messages after reading my tweets and in his words 'sensing my disappointment in him'. I told him all he had to do was keep it shut on twitter and keep it inhouse regardless of who was to blame and to be fair he did admit he had overdone it on Twitter. We are only hearing his version, no doubt there are two sides and both sides have been at fault along the line whether mis-understandings or not but only one chose to air his dirty linen and that one has previous history of it.

He won't apologise though, there's the issue.
And that is the main issue. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 19, 2013, 02:49:04 PM
After Saturday's performance more and more people are agreeing with him.

Imagine (hypothetically of course) that SC plays PO vs Newport in the cup and he has a stormer- does the bring PO back bandwagon get even bigger????

In the words of that great sage Del Boy

'no way Pedro'
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 19, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
No we need him sold. Accept £2m and save another £2m wages and get someone else in who will actually play and strengthen the current team (are we really expecting normal service to be resumed with Pete ???).

JP WONT spend money on anyone, he has said in more than one interview that he wants to stick to a 22 man squad.. so he will only take loans or free players which is ridiculous, its like he wants us to be back in the championship.. if only what you said did happen, maybe we would get stronger instead of being the only team to get weaker :S
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on August 19, 2013, 05:33:41 PM
JP WONT spend money on anyone, he has said in more than one interview that he wants to stick to a 22 man squad.. so he will only take loans or free players which is ridiculous, its like he wants us to be back in the championship.. if only what you said did happen, maybe we would get stronger instead of being the only team to get weaker :S
Every player that is brought into the club costs money whether it be a transfer or loan fee or higher wages,  so suggesting he won't spend money is frankly ridiculous.  Also,  the fact that Odemwhinger is frozen out clearly suggests that money is not Peace's sole motivation because as many have already pointed out he is currently costing us wages and a reduced transfer fee every day this sorry episode continues.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie_liam on August 19, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Take it from me and It's safe to say he will never play for us again unfortunately. Things went on before the whole January episode and things are now beyond repair to the point where they haven't even given him a squad number. He also expects to move on in this window with a few English clubs involved.

I for one think we could have done with him on Saturday. A bit of pace on the counter attack instead of a wasted attempted long ball upto Shane Long everytime. He was a good outlet to have.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 19, 2013, 07:20:56 PM
I spoke to him on twitter as well after he sent me messages after reading my tweets and in his words 'sensing my disappointment in him'. I told him all he had to do was keep it shut on twitter and keep it inhouse regardless of who was to blame and to be fair he did admit he had overdone it on Twitter. We are only hearing his version, no doubt there are two sides and both sides have been at fault along the line whether mis-understandings or not but only one chose to air his dirty linen and that one has previous history of it.

He won't apologise though, there's the issue.
Evening Phil
I know it's a sensitive subject , but he is an employee /asset of West Bromwich Albion , we are just fans of said club, we don't own him and he owes us nothing , if there is a need to apologise surely that would be to his paymasters, but not us?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: adamw1109 on August 19, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
Every player that is brought into the club costs money whether it be a transfer or loan fee or higher wages,  so suggesting he won't spend money is frankly ridiculous.  Also,  the fact that Odemwhinger is frozen out clearly suggests that money is not Peace's sole motivation because as many have already pointed out he is currently costing us wages and a reduced transfer fee every day this sorry episode continues.

sorry, i meant he wont spend money on a permanent signing... only saying that because in an interview.. he basically said he only wants loans not permanent, he wants to stick to a 22 man squad. money is not peaces sole motivation? aint you read his interviews?.. its all he bloody cares about! dont forget.. its peace and his tight pocket that's making the whole Sinclair thing drag on!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 19, 2013, 07:30:27 PM
Evening Phil
I know it's a sensitive subject , but he is an employee /asset of West Bromwich Albion , we are just fans of said club, we don't own him and he owes us nothing , if there is a need to apologise surely that would be to his paymasters, but not us?

Si  :D

I think any apology has to be made in public via either his mouth or his agents mouth with him sat/stood next to said agent, he was happy enough to give the dirt in public so should be big enough to issue the apology in public. For me I think he owes an apology to the fans as well due to his tweets whether some think they were aimed at fans or not, they were on a social media website where the vast majority of his followers are Albion fans. Any issues should have been kept inhouse and dealt with inhouse as well.

When a player is sent off in a game they usually come out and apologise to the fans, Pete has gone a bit further than that wouldn't you agree ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 19, 2013, 07:33:29 PM
Si  :D

I think any apology has to be made in public via either his mouth or his agents mouth with him sat/stood next to said agent, he was happy enough to give the dirt in public so should be big enough to issue the apology in public. For me I think he owes an apology to the fans as well due to his tweets whether some think they were aimed at fans or not, they were on a social media website where the vast majority of his followers are Albion fans. Any issues should have been kept inhouse and dealt with inhouse as well.
I'm not saying it wouldn't help, but I don't think it would be the end of it so he may think why bother?and I really don't think he owes me anything.
On the subject of twitter, I wonder what the thoughts of Jeremy and Steve were regarding the Clarke siblings outbursts?, almost odemwingieesque?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 19, 2013, 07:36:44 PM
I'm not saying it wouldn't help, but I don't think it would be the end of it so he may think why bother?and I really don't think he owes me anything.
On the subject of twitter, I wonder what the thoughts of Jeremy and Steve were regarding the Clarke siblings outbursts?, almost odemwingieesque?

It may have no effect at all but at least it would show some sort of compromise add try to move on. Would it hurt him ? no, would it help his relationship with the fans ? massively.

As for Clarke sons, bang out of order but not sure how the club do take any action unless they come out and divulge stuff they shouldn't. Upto Clarke to put them in their place and shut them up.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 19, 2013, 07:46:12 PM
It may have no effect at all but at least it would show some sort of compromise add try to move on. Would it hurt him ? no, would it help his relationship with the fans ? massively.

As for Clarke sons, bang out of order but not sure how the club do take any action unless they come out and divulge stuff they shouldn't. Upto Clarke to put them in their place and shut them up.
Unless Clarke is using them as a public mouthpiece?
After that defeat and the clouds that appear to be circling , it could be the ideal time for mr O to get back in the good books, conversely we may just sign a few stunners and win some matches and all will be fine :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 19, 2013, 07:47:50 PM
Unless Clarke is using them as a public mouthpiece?
After that defeat and the clouds that appear to be circling , it could be the ideal time for mr O to get back in the good books, conversely we may just sign a few stunners and win some matches and all will be fine :D

That is something that crossed my mind but surely he wouldn't !!

Think theres more chance of stunners than Mr O  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 19, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
I think its fair to say that SC and JP best days are behind them but its all down to SC now, if he gets good results then he stays in the job but if he does not he will be gone very quickly.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on August 19, 2013, 08:33:22 PM
Baggie79 sorry to pry mate and I realise you cant say to much but just why is there relationship failing is it down to lack of investment on JP's side or is it over the odemwingie situation
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: HampshireBaggie on August 19, 2013, 08:34:45 PM
Sorry Baggie79 didn't quite understand the first part of your post. When you say best days behind them do you mean in terms of their relationship? Is it on the slide?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: staticboy on August 19, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
Hi All,
Just a thought,  (after what Baggie79 has said) what if JP is waiting to see how SC manages the next 3 games, gets a new manager in if all hits the fan.  The new manager wants to keep odemwingie and will play him in his preferred position.  obviously this is all ifs and buts and there is probably more chance of me juggling soot than PO playing again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 19, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
Sorry Baggie79 didn't quite understand the first part of your post. When you say best days behind them do you mean in terms of their relationship? Is it on the slide?

All I meant was that Peace backed Clarke 100% when he first came in and he obviously does not anymore due to the results lately, possibly the lack of big transfer fees speaks louder than words.

Just a personal opinion and no more than that but if I had to guess it seems that Clarke is on a tight rope at the moment. I hope that I am wrong!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 19, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
I think its fair to say that SC and JP best days are behind them but its all down to SC now, if he gets good results then he stays in the job but if he does not he will be gone very quickly.
JP's purse strings could be important in what results SC is able to achieve ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 19, 2013, 09:37:29 PM
All I meant was that Peace backed Clarke 100% when he first came in and he obviously does not anymore due to the results lately, possibly the lack of big transfer fees speaks louder than words.

Just a personal opinion and no more than that but if I had to guess it seems that Clarke is on a tight rope at the moment. I hope that I am wrong!

It would be typical of JP to 'sack' a manager after the window shuts IMO.

Something ain't right ATM, it just don't feel right at Albion. We should have pushed on from last season and were showing signs of going backwards.

In regards to odemwonga I think there's a lot more to that than meets the eye and I'm sure once he and/or Clarke have left this club we will find out a bit more.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on August 19, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
He didnt back him in January either,yes i remember what SC said but i tend not to believe managers when they say they are perfectly happy with the squad and dont need any reinforcements!!  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 19, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
All I meant was that Peace backed Clarke 100% when he first came in and he obviously does not anymore due to the results lately, possibly the lack of big transfer fees speaks louder than words.

Just a personal opinion and no more than that but if I had to guess it seems that Clarke is on a tight rope at the moment. I hope that I am wrong!
Peace has backed him well, most that we have signed/loaned/gone for have had a "Chelsea " connection, however if you take the last 20 odd games, and add in "that" diabolical set up Saturday you can understands JP's anxiety.
I hope it turns around but he needs to "coach" and not look for excuses or play games.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 19, 2013, 09:52:05 PM
It would be typical of JP to 'sack' a manager after the window shuts IMO.

Something ain't right ATM, it just don't feel right at Albion. We should have pushed on from last season and were showing signs of going backwards.

In regards to odemwonga I think there's a lot more to that than meets the eye and I'm sure once he and/or Clarke have left this club we will find out a bit more.
.  Considering this is suppose to be Odemwinge , how can you say we haven't pushed on from last season after just one game ? And to be talking about sacking well! You ought to be ashamed Albion fans
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 19, 2013, 09:56:29 PM
.  Considering this is suppose to be Odemwinge , how can you say we haven't pushed on from last season after just one game ? And to be talking about sacking well! You ought to be ashamed Albion fans

Hang on! Where have I said he should be sacked? Odemwonga and Clarke wont be here forever and once they do leave (now or three years time) I'm sure we'd find our more.

As for not pushing on, we haven't since our great start last season. We've won what 3 games since Jan?

As I say all the signs to me say we look like we're going backwards.

I genuinely hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 19, 2013, 09:58:27 PM
Peace has backed him well, most that we have signed/loaned/gone for have had a "Chelsea " connection, however if you take the last 20 odd games, and add in "that" diabolical set up Saturday you can understands JP's anxiety.
I hope it turns around but he needs to "coach" and not look for excuses or play games.
Well since Clarke has come in who have we brought in ? Rosenberg and Yacob (both already lined up before Clarke took over). Lukaku and obviously Clarke had an input there. This year Anelka ....time will tell, but cant possibly judge this after 1 game - Luganu and Vydra again time will tell. Doesn't amount to major backing in the current climate really.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 19, 2013, 10:04:31 PM
Well since Clarke has come in who have we brought in ? Rosenberg and Yacob (both already lined up before Clarke took over). Lukaku and obviously Clarke had an input there. This year Anelka ....time will tell, but cant possibly judge this after 1 game - Luganu and Vydra again time will tell. Doesn't amount to major backing in the current climate really.
Lukaku Chelsea
Sinclair ex Chelsea
Kalou ex Chelsea
Anelka ex Chelsea
VYDRA recommended by Zola ex Chelsea
Do you think Clarke didn't have a big say in those targets?
Just because we haven't spent big does not mean either that Clarke wants us to nor that we won't before the window closes.
I ask you this, with the formation and selection on Saturday , would you let him spend your money?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 19, 2013, 10:05:37 PM
Anyway back to pete

A certain tony Mowbray believed to be interested, boy he needs some help.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Adder on August 19, 2013, 11:07:13 PM
Lukaku Chelsea
Sinclair ex Chelsea
Kalou ex Chelsea
Anelka ex Chelsea
VYDRA recommended by Zola ex Chelsea
Do you think Clarke didn't have a big say in those targets?
Just because we haven't spent big does not mean either that Clarke wants us to nor that we won't before the window closes.
I ask you this, with the formation and selection on Saturday , would you let him spend your money?
From what I've read, Zola recommended us to Vydra not the other way around.  Given the success of Lukaku and the fact Anelka has only played one game, if there is a problem with Clarke's interest in ex or present Chelasea players it's totally unproven yet.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 19, 2013, 11:34:48 PM
It would be typical of JP to 'sack' a manager after the window shuts IMO.

Something ain't right ATM, it just don't feel right at Albion. We should have pushed on from last season and were showing signs of going backwards.

In regards to odemwonga I think there's a lot more to that than meets the eye and I'm sure once he and/or Clarke have left this club we will find out a bit more.
Would it? From the top of my head he's only really sacked two managers in mid season in his ten year stint, one because of a massive falling out, the other because we weren't gettinganywhere.. capitulating after a very good start (history repeats and all that)

Funnily enough both turned out to be resounding successes (till the end of the season anyway in Robson's case)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 19, 2013, 11:52:21 PM
Would it? From the top of my head he's only really sacked two managers in mid season in his ten year stint, one because of a massive falling out, the other because we weren't gettinganywhere.. capitulating after a very good start (history repeats and all that)

Funnily enough both turned out to be resounding successes (till the end of the season anyway in Robson's case)

Didn't he sack Megson as well?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 19, 2013, 11:59:43 PM
Sack sack sack !!! At least it's taken the attention off PO 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 20, 2013, 12:03:33 AM
Didn't he sack Megson as well?
Megson (who was replaced by Robson Nov 2004) and Di Matteo (who was replaced by Hodgson Feb 2011).

Megson basically resigned, anyway, so you could say he only sacked one, and you cannot say it wasn't necessary, or done without a replacement in mind.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 20, 2013, 12:58:15 AM
Megson (who was replaced by Robson Nov 2004) and Di Matteo (who was replaced by Hodgson Feb 2011).

Megson basically resigned, anyway, so you could say he only sacked one, and you cannot say it wasn't necessary, or done without a replacement in mind.

I'm saying he sacked 3. Megson, Robson and RDM. Not sure Megson resigned to be fair.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 20, 2013, 01:31:49 AM
I'm saying he sacked 3. Megson, Robson and RDM. Not sure Megson resigned to be fair.
Megson was mutual consent. Apparently from what I read while looking it up, so was Robson. Only Di Matteo was actually relieved of his duties.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 20, 2013, 01:34:23 AM
Megson was mutual consent. Apparently from what I read while looking it up, so was Robson. Only Di Matteo was actually relieved of his duties.

Really? You must be the only person in the world who thinks Megson and Robson weren't sacked! Seriously?!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 20, 2013, 01:44:20 AM
Megson:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/3959433.stm


Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 20, 2013, 02:05:46 AM
I would play Peter on Saturday

 :P
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 20, 2013, 07:44:50 AM
From what I've read, Zola recommended us to Vydra not the other way around.  Given the success of Lukaku and the fact Anelka has only played one game, if there is a problem with Clarke's interest in ex or present Chelasea players it's totally unproven yet.
I'm not saying its a problem?, I'm pointing out the fact that Peace must be allowing Clarke more influence than previous head coaches.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on August 20, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
I would play Peter on Saturday

 :P

I'd certainly play him vs Newport in the cup :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 20, 2013, 02:52:54 PM
I would play Peter on Saturday

 :P

what at?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Bangkok Baggie on August 20, 2013, 03:27:33 PM
what at?
Car park attendant? Or pulling MY pint of Guinness at the Vine. And where were you Zippy on Saturday? (It was a bit crowded in there I know) I was expecting a tap on the shoulder at some point and an account of how you and Odem had spent a lovely holiday on his yacht in salubrious surroundings together this summer. :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Watton...! on August 20, 2013, 03:28:25 PM
Megson said he was leaving at the end of the season then we sacked him I think!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on August 20, 2013, 03:46:19 PM
Megson said he was leaving at the end of the season then we sacked him I think!
He wrote to the board and said he wouldn't renew his deal. The board took that as a resignation and terminated his employment so they could replace him there and then.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 20, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
He wrote to the board and said he wouldn't renew his deal. The board took that as a resignation and terminated his employment so they could replace him there and then.
Is that right? I seem to recall that he wasn't so much sacked as sent on gardening leave until either he got a new job or the end of his contract. Can't remember which came to be the end but I think it was quite a time so he should have had a good vegetable crop that year. Or am I misremembering?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on August 20, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
Is that right? I seem to recall that he wasn't so much sacked as sent on gardening leave until either he got a new job or the end of his contract. Can't remember which came to be the end but I think it was quite a time so he should have had a good vegetable crop that year. Or am I misremembering?
No you're right, he was sent on gardening leave, but that is often what happens when a manager is sacked. The term 'relieved of his duties' is probably more accurate. Di Matteo was a similar arrangement, he couldn't get another job until his deal with us expired or him or his perspective new club could arrange a settlement.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: IrememberJohnny Nicholls on August 20, 2013, 04:50:29 PM
No you're right, he was sent on gardening leave, but that is often what happens when a manager is sacked. The term 'relieved of his duties' is probably more accurate. Di Matteo was a similar arrangement, he couldn't get another job until his deal with us expired or him or his perspective new club could arrange a settlement.

"relieved of his duties" in more senses than one perhaps. There were certainly quite a few people relieved to see him go. But others thought it was great loss of course.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 21, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
I would play Peter on Saturday

 :P

if we arent going to fork out for some wingers and anoter striker we might aswell use him....
its got ridiculous now. our best striker/match winner rotting in insolation, while we are devoid of goals and creativity and new signings wo are going to provide it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tambag on August 21, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
We should have got PO off the wage bill when we had the chance !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 21, 2013, 04:10:20 PM
We should have got PO off the wage bill when we had the chance !



Most media folk are questioning why he is still here
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tambag on August 21, 2013, 05:21:51 PM


Most media folk are questioning why he is still here

I cannot see why we haven't got rid at the cheaper fee if the rumours are true that we are near our wage bracket due to new regulations.  At present we have a player we don't want and he also hindering bringing in replacements by being one of our biggest earners.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 21, 2013, 06:48:30 PM

Napoli Join Race For West Brom's Odemwingie

 italian-side-napoli-join-race-for-west-broms-odemwingie
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: clemsleftfoot on August 21, 2013, 06:54:48 PM
Napoli Join Race For West Brom's Odemwingie

 italian-side-napoli-join-race-for-west-broms-odemwingie
waste of time he's already stated that he wants to play in the prem
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tucka9 on August 21, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
waste of time he's already stated that he wants to play in the prem
I think he may well be interested in a team in the champions league though.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: FallOutBoy on August 21, 2013, 10:23:27 PM
If we get a bid of £1 million, get rid. Money off the payroll, and he simply can't play for us again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 22, 2013, 12:22:08 PM
If we get a bid of £1 million, get rid. Money off the payroll, and he simply can't play for us again.
Chris Lepkowski has said this week that we've rejected several bids of £1.5m for him. Despite what happened in January, it looks like we'll be playing brinkmanship on this one again.

For me, if someone offers £1.75m then it should be "thank you and goodnight". The guy's not remotely match-fit and will take several weeks to get up to speed because of that, so we should factor that into what we're now asking for him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 22, 2013, 01:03:56 PM
I admired the stance we took on him, sent out a message the club wouldn't be messed with when it came to such matters. However now knowing how FFP works when it comes to wages this is nearly £40k-a-week we could be putting to good use and we have left it too long now. Should have bitten clubs hands off for the £1.5m just to get his wages off our books to be used elsewhere.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on August 22, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
If we can only get £1.5m for him I suggest the club makes Pete pay for the damages to his transfer price. If he'd kept his head down and worked for the rest of the season, bagged a few goals, even though clubs know we don't want him they would pay his worth.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on August 22, 2013, 01:15:45 PM
If we can only get £1.5m for him I suggest the club makes Pete pay for the damages to his transfer price. If he'd kept his head down and worked for the rest of the season, bagged a few goals, even though clubs know we don't want him they would pay his worth.

That would be impossible to do legally. I'd be amazed if he's here come 3rd September
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on August 22, 2013, 01:26:13 PM
That would be impossible to do legally. I'd be amazed if he's here come 3rd September

Well he seemed pretty keen to hand in his bonus payments to form some sort of deal at QPR - obviously that was then and this is now, but I'm sure Peace could convince him somehow. That or he'd make him jump off a bridge and pay us for the privilege.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 22, 2013, 02:19:15 PM
Well he seemed pretty keen to hand in his bonus payments to form some sort of deal at QPR - obviously that was then and this is now, but I'm sure Peace could convince him somehow. That or he'd make him jump off a bridge and pay us for the privilege.
This situation is (for me) the only mistake Mr Peace has ever made , we have lost money due to the "stance" taken by the club and in business you do not allow feelings to enter the boardroom .
I still think he will play for us , in fact I think he may out last Clarke?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on August 22, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
This situation is (for me) the only mistake Mr Peace has ever made , we have lost money due to the "stance" taken by the club and in business you do not allow feelings to enter the boardroom .
I still think he will play for us , in fact I think he may out last Clarke?

I've just mentioned Odemwonga in the other thread.

I honestly believe the club want him out, but JP being JP he wanted a certain amount before he goes. No-one will offer that or if they do it'll be very late in the day.

My feeling is that the JP has said he will go on his terms and if not he will stay and see out his contract. This is why I have a sneaky feeling that Odemwonga may play a part in our plans for the short term.

The intention is to get rid obviously, but feel that if needed he will be called upon.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 22, 2013, 03:29:13 PM
 I can see Odemwingie being a complete ass and not want to move only on his terms.
Sort of you've effed me about I'll eff you
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on August 22, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
Why does everyone assume he's not fit?

He's training with the kids. Do they not do pre season training? I'm sure they do.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 22, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
Why does everyone assume he's not fit?

He's training with the kids. Do they not do pre season training? I'm sure they do.

I doubt if it has the same intensity of the first team, and I doubt if wingies hearts in it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jasonbot on August 22, 2013, 09:43:08 PM
Dammit, i'll give him a contract to cut my grass on weekends!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VVVAlbion on August 23, 2013, 07:26:39 AM
Dammit, i'll give him a contract to cut my grass on weekends!
I'm sure he'll be eyeing up your neighbour's grass to see if it is greener! ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 23, 2013, 08:47:39 AM
I doubt if it has the same intensity of the first team, and I doubt if wingies hearts in it
you would assume that if he wants a move he would be keeping in good shape?
he has always looked quite agile and fit so I think he could do a job of the bench as close as Saturday , considering Clarke likes to give his subs only 6 minutes  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: black emperor on August 23, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
JP is doing his best to keep him as he will be the cheapest option as another striker. i can not see him going by September unless we get in a few more players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on August 24, 2013, 08:56:23 AM
I know its rather a forlorn hope but given our striker issues isnt it time we kissed and made up with Odemwingie?

Just watching all the old highlights.
Surely it would be best for both club and striker.

Its not exactly like clubs are beating down the door for his signature but its not exactly like we'll get a striker of his quality this late in the transfer window.

Wouldnt it be nice if some of the damage done could be repaired?

Oh well,  im probably dreaming.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 24, 2013, 09:19:07 AM
I know its rather a forlorn hope but given our striker issues isnt it time we kissed and made up with Odemwingie?

Just watching all the old highlights.
Surely it would be best for both club and striker.

Its not exactly like clubs are beating down the door for his signature but its not exactly like we'll get a striker of his quality this late in the transfer window.

Wouldnt it be nice if some of the damage done could be repaired?

Oh well,  im probably dreaming.


NO NEVER >:(
All ready been said by a fan that he would never apologize to the club our fans .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on August 24, 2013, 09:20:39 AM

NO NEVER >:(
All ready been said by a fan that he would never apologize to the club our fans .

things change
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 24, 2013, 09:22:57 AM
I know its rather a forlorn hope but given our striker issues isnt it time we kissed and made up with Odemwingie?

Just watching all the old highlights.
Surely it would be best for both club and striker.

Its not exactly like clubs are beating down the door for his signature but its not exactly like we'll get a striker of his quality this late in the transfer window.

Wouldnt it be nice if some of the damage done could be repaired?

Oh well,  im probably dreaming.
He had his chance and now too much water as passed under the bridge, so yes you are dreaming.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggieboy74 on August 24, 2013, 09:26:15 AM
No way.  It would ruin any kind of team spirit we have.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: jamesh_91 on August 24, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Personally, I'd love to see him back in he side. Undoubtedly the most naturally gifted player in our squad. Stick him on the bench against Newport and ease him back in. If he scores goals to keep us up I don't care what has gone before.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 24, 2013, 09:46:14 AM
No way.  It would ruin any kind of team spirit we have.
Would Shane long inviting him to his wedding also have the same effect and/or alienate Shane ?
I think that nearly all of the players would have no problem with him back in the line up, the ones who may be unhappy would be the opposition defences?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 24, 2013, 09:47:37 AM
On this subject me and the jacko2000 have said many times he should be re-integrated with the first team, many have shot us down , seems the tide may be turning?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on August 24, 2013, 09:50:29 AM
On this subject me and the jacko2000 have said many times he should be re-integrated with the first team, many have shot us down , seems the tide may be turning?

i think the current circumstances dictate it..

we really do have to try..

play out your final year and then you can have your move as a free agent.

gotta be worth a shot
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on August 24, 2013, 09:51:21 AM
On this subject me and the jacko2000 have said many times he should be re-integrated with the first team, many have shot us down , seems the tide may be turning?
King Canute couldn't turn the tide back and I doubt Odemwingie will.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 24, 2013, 09:53:56 AM
Theres already little splits developing between fans on here over Clarke, transfer policy, Peace. Last thing we need at a time when we need everyone singing from the same hymn sheet is another to split fans.

Simple apology on Twitter, on TV apologising for his behaviour would go a long long way to help but doubt that would happen.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on August 24, 2013, 09:54:25 AM
I'm sure he'll be eyeing up your neighbour's grass to see if it is greener! ;D

Brilliant!  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 24, 2013, 09:59:43 AM
Theres already little splits developing between fans on here over Clarke, transfer policy, Peace. Last thing we need at a time when we need everyone singing from the same hymn sheet is another to split fans.

Simple apology on Twitter, on TV apologising for his behaviour would go a long long way to help but doubt that would happen.
You do get the feeling some are just born with a negative disposition?
Maybe years of losing to teams like Plymouth 1-5 at home ain't helped?
Very hard to get all fans on here to agree , unless the title is are wolves fans scumbags for throwing bricks at women?,
On pete has I've said , lots may feel an apology may help, some wouldn't be happy if he solved world peace and child famine , but for me (just my opinion) he doesn't have to do anything,just put the shirt on and do the business.
And if he plays wide it frees brunt up to play centrally  :D (sorry)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on August 24, 2013, 09:59:55 AM
Theres already little splits developing between fans on here over Clarke, transfer policy, Peace. Last thing we need at a time when we need everyone singing from the same hymn sheet is another to split fans.

Simple apology on Twitter, on TV apologising for his behaviour would go a long long way to help but doubt that would happen.

we have a desperate striker problem,  we have a proven quality premiership striker.

a conversation at least needs to be had i think.

that said i cant see it happening but i think someone at albion should be having the conversation.

i think we need to swallow our pride for the greater good or at least let him play.
(no ones talking about forgiving here)

how many city fans as still spitting about Tevez...i bet they spent more time reminising on their Premier league trophy..


(as for splitting the board about certain subjects,  come on man its a forum for debate not a love in)

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on August 24, 2013, 10:01:58 AM
You do get the feeling some are just born with a negative disposition?
Maybe years of losing to teams like Plymouth 1-5 at home ain't helped?
Very hard to get all fans on here to agree , unless the title is are wolves fans scumbags for throwing bricks at women?,
On pete has I've said , lots may feel an apology may help, some wouldn't be happy if he solved world peace and child famine , but for me (just my opinion) he doesn't have to do anything,just put the shirt on and do the business.
And if he plays wide it frees brunt up to play centrally  :D (sorry)

agreed,  just play him

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 24, 2013, 10:05:04 AM
The tide is only turning because fans are panicking which seems to be par for the course at the minute. The bridges are burnt and neither party is remotely interested in rebuilding them any chance that he would be reintegrated into the 1st team squad were laid to rest when he was told to train separately from the rest of the squad. There is no way back after that.

If by some twist of fate he is still an Albion player on September 3rd the picture might change but even then I wouldn't count on it.     
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 24, 2013, 10:05:37 AM
You do get the feeling some are just born with a negative disposition?
Maybe years of losing to teams like Plymouth 1-5 at home ain't helped?
Very hard to get all fans on here to agree , unless the title is are wolves fans scumbags for throwing bricks at women?,
On pete has I've said , lots may feel an apology may help, some wouldn't be happy if he solved world peace and child famine , but for me (just my opinion) he doesn't have to do anything,just put the shirt on and do the business.
And if he plays wide it frees brunt up to play centrally  :D (sorry)

We will always disagree mate but at least we can do it without insults (well you did until the last line  :D )

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 24, 2013, 10:06:15 AM
Again fans are assuming the problem is on the clubs part how do we not know the conversation has been had but Saint Peter (as some would have you believe) has point blank refused.

Dont forget this is a player who has finally come up against a club that wont back down to his demands.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 24, 2013, 10:08:01 AM
Its a situation where no-one is right and no-one wrong, folk just have differing views on it, mine haven't changed and i've yet to see anything posted by anyone that would change my view on it. A lot needs to happen away from messageboards and in the board room/ offices etc before its going to be considered.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggies37 on August 24, 2013, 10:09:22 AM
Its a situation where no-one is right and no-one wrong, folk just have differing views on it, mine haven't changed and i've yet to see anything posted by anyone that would change my view on it. A lot needs to happen away from messageboards and in the board room/ offices etc before its going to be considered.

and on that last point we definitely agree   ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on August 24, 2013, 01:19:54 PM
If we back down over PO, how long before his next tantrum?! To me he looks like the egotistcal footballer personified. Remember those 40 yard shots in his last few games, when there were players unmarked in much better positions. Obviously, only interested in one person, over and above the team he is supposed to be playing for.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 24, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Again fans are assuming the problem is on the clubs part how do we not know the conversation has been had but Saint Peter (as some would have you believe) has point blank refused.

Dont forget this is a player who has finally come up against a club that wont back down to his demands.
I don't recall him ever being called a saint, just that different people have different opinions on wether what happend should/shouldn't continue to determine his career with WBA?
I certainly do not believe he his a saint, but he may not be as bad as some that you never hear what they get up to?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on August 24, 2013, 01:41:07 PM
I remember fans trying to defend his twitter outbursts virtually employing he could do no wrong.

I just cannot see him swallowing a huge chunk of humble pie and admitting he was wrong.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 24, 2013, 05:38:55 PM
I for one would be over the moon if the issues between PO and the club could be resolved simply because despite what I think about his actions, he would pretty much solve the issues we have from a tactical and positional standpoint. The problem is, PO doesn't want to play for us. There is not much we can do about that. People are talking like if he apologizes he could be given a second chance, well NEWSFLASH....he wants to leave, he doesn't want to play for us anymore, so it's not an option and will not happen. Shame though as he would pretty much solve our problems.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 24, 2013, 07:36:48 PM
I remember fans trying to defend his twitter outbursts virtually employing he could do no wrong.

I just cannot see him swallowing a huge chunk of humble pie and admitting he was wrong.
What if he does not think he has done wrong, why would he apologise?

Ill give you a scenario
Today we went to Everton, they're ok , not world beaters but an ok team with some good players, no one really gave us much chance.
Now cast your mind back to when we played Chelsea at home, pete played on the wing , had possibly one of his best games forums and even when they equalised (a team that has had millions poured in to it and won the champs league) we all still thought we could do it?
Regardless of personal opinion, he gives us something non of the others (maybe Sinclair /lukaku) can offer , he can turn a match.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 24, 2013, 08:02:08 PM
What if he does not think he has done wrong, why would he apologise?

Ill give you a scenario
Today we went to Everton, they're ok , not world beaters but an ok team with some good players, no one really gave us much chance.
Now cast your mind back to when we played Chelsea at home, pete played on the wing , had possibly one of his best games forums and even when they equalised (a team that has had millions poured in to it and won the champs league) we all still thought we could do it?
Regardless of personal opinion, he gives us something non of the others (maybe Sinclair /lukaku) can offer , he can turn a match.

Spot on. I for one don't really give a monkeys what goes on off the pitch as long as a player produces the goods on it. I've read a couple of posts today which suggest our forwards are not getting the right service. Players like Lukaku and Odemwingie can create their own chances out of nothing. Again todays game was crying out for a similar type of player to produce a bit of magic.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on August 24, 2013, 09:17:37 PM
I'm not interested in who's right or wrong if when the transfere window closes he's still here. The managment of this club are part of this problem and need to sellhim or play him. It's one thing to want to sell on your own terms but keeping him and not playing him is not an option we can afford!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on August 24, 2013, 09:48:22 PM
I think Palace or Cardiff will get desperate with a few days to go and bid near enough what we want. Albion took the right stance here, but he needs to be gone.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on August 24, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
I think Palace or Cardiff will get desperate with a few days to go and bid near enough what we want. Albion took the right stance here, but he needs to be gone.

They can only be seen to have taken the right stance when this is resolved. If in 2 weeks he's still here and not playing then not sellinging him when you had the opportunity becomes a joke.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: maximus on August 24, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
A travesty really, He would have made a difference last week, He would have today, Such a shame he let greed get in the way of him playing for us as the last 2 games have shown that Long just isnt clinical in anyway shape or form no matter how much he runs. Pete was the difference between drawing or winning a game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on August 24, 2013, 10:49:40 PM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski 49s
More on Odemwingie in the Sunday Mercury #wba

 Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski 1m
Odemwingie could be heading out of #wba this week. Stoke and Cardiff have bid £2m. Swansea £1.8m. #scfc #ccfc

Three Bids! Bidding war...

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/three-premier-league-clubs-battle-5782977

Peter Odemwingie's Hawthorns hell could be drawing to an end - as three clubs battle to secure his signature.

West Bromwich Albion have received offers from Stoke and Cardiff for about £2million, with Swansea prepared to pay in the region of £1.8million.

Albion have previously rejected a bids of £1.5million for the 32-year-old , but these latest offers could pave the way for his exit.

Odemwingie has not played any part for Albion since his return to pre-season training, with the club making it clear there is no way back for him.

The Nigeria international has been sidelined since his well-publicised fall-out with the club last season - which started with his failed move to Queens Park Rangers and continued with a series of Twitter meltdowns .

Although Albion are not prepared to let him go on the cheap, they are mindful that his age and contractual situation will drive his price down.

Odemwingie has less than 12 months left on his current contract with Albion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: richjonawba on August 24, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
And I thought he couldn't be hated by us any more than he is already, imagine if he went to Stoke!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie96 on August 24, 2013, 11:19:53 PM
Think I'd sell him to Swansea as they won't go down and he'll only be a back up, wouldn't do it till 12:01 on saturday though...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on August 24, 2013, 11:29:20 PM
Think I'd sell him to Swansea as they won't go down and he'll only be a back up, wouldn't do it till 12:01 on saturday though...

Agreed, Swansea is the best option. Even at £200k less. I Very much doubt he's match fit.

Will be great news once he's gone. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 24, 2013, 11:31:26 PM
Agreed, Swansea is the best option. Even at £200k less. I Very much doubt he's match fit.

Will be great news once he's gone.

Aye can't wait for him to be gone. Swansea might sell Michu to Arsenal though...  :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie96 on August 24, 2013, 11:39:37 PM
Aye can't wait for him to be gone. Swansea might sell Michu to Arsenal though...  :-X
Bony, odemwingie will just be a Luke Moore replacement which is quite funny
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie Artist on August 25, 2013, 12:43:26 AM
We'll be selling to one of our rivals whichever one we sell to. I'd prefer Cardiff.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Legend on August 25, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
Sell him to a club likely to stay up anyway e.g. Swansea.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 25, 2013, 12:53:30 AM
I don't care where he goes as long as he goes obviously with 3 bids on the table he will be off next week and we close this whole sorry chapter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 25, 2013, 06:30:21 AM
I don't care where he goes as long as he goes obviously with 3 bids on the table he will be off next week and we close this whole sorry chapter.
Agreed, surely a £2m bid has to be acceptable to us at this juncture, all things considered?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tony,Germany on August 25, 2013, 06:57:16 AM
personally think he is a big kid, who spat his dummy out and threw all his toys out the Pram when he didn't get played as a central strikers where he wanted to be....(do think though if he had got as much game time up front as lakaku he would have scored as many)
however proving a point be peace must have cost over a million pounds in wages by now...so its just us the fans who are the losers....!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 25, 2013, 07:09:46 AM
I think £2m would be quite a good deal. But, then, I'm not JP. ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on August 25, 2013, 07:50:44 AM

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/three-premier-league-clubs-battle-5782977

Peter Odemwingie's Hawthorns hell could be drawing to an end - as three clubs battle to secure his signature.

West Bromwich Albion have received offers from Stoke and Cardiff for about £2million, with Swansea prepared to pay in the region of £1.8million.

Albion have previously rejected a bids of £1.5million for the 32-year-old , but these latest offers could pave the way for his exit.

Odemwingie has not played any part for Albion since his return to pre-season training, with the club making it clear there is no way back for him.

The Nigeria international has been sidelined since his well-publicised fall-out with the club last season - which started with his failed move to Queens Park Rangers and continued with a series of Twitter meltdowns .

Although Albion are not prepared to let him go on the cheap, they are mindful that his age and contractual situation will drive his price down.

Odemwingie has less than 12 months left on his current contract with Albion.

Been saying this for over a month now and been banging my head against the wall with some people who just wont accept he wont play for us again. Maybe now they will accept it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbarenno on August 25, 2013, 08:06:11 AM
Sell odemwingie for 2 million and weve broke even on the sinclair loan fee. Saving 40,000 a week on wages. Them if anelka quits theres another 50,000 pound a week saved

Will we spend anything?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: darby009 on August 25, 2013, 08:09:55 AM
I agree with the point about selling to Swansea.  but not until it is too late for him to play against us next week.  if we sold to stoke or Cardiff it could really help drop us in it,
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 25, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
At last!


137 pages and something worth reading.

I'll add my voice to those saying sell him to Swansea as realistically they have little chance of getting relegated. Saying that though, once we have all of our players in place it seems likely, to me anyway, that Swansea will be our rivals for league position but in terms of "worst case scenario" I'd still sell to them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 25, 2013, 10:11:22 AM
I'll add my voice to those saying sell him to Swansea
Ultimately, he'll go to whichever club he wants to (or none!) of those we accept an offer from.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on August 25, 2013, 10:48:18 AM
What if he does not think he has done wrong, why would he apologise?

Ill give you a scenario
Today we went to Everton, they're ok , not world beaters but an ok team with some good players, no one really gave us much chance.
Now cast your mind back to when we played Chelsea at home, pete played on the wing , had possibly one of his best games forums and even when they equalised (a team that has had millions poured in to it and won the champs league) we all still thought we could do it?
Regardless of personal opinion, he gives us something non of the others (maybe Sinclair /lukaku) can offer , he can turn a match.

I thought the biggest issue Pete had with the club was that we kept playing him on the wing & not in the middle.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie82 on August 25, 2013, 12:10:18 PM
This is a tragedy. We are selling our best striker to one of our rivals. It's incredibly difficult to find a goalscorer in this league.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Booker on August 25, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
Good! get rid and close this sorry chapter.

I find it funny how people are saying "get him on the wing, he's another option"...Why?! Playing on the wing is possibly 50-60% of the reason he had his temper tantrum. He doesn't want to be their and under performed whilst their. Shooting from stupid angles, not passing (another over looked trait of his)

I'm greatful for his goals but, as Dudleylad said, happy that we've shown some back bone and not bowed down to his immaturity/stupidity.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 25, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
I thought the biggest issue Pete had with the club was that we kept playing him on the wing & not in the middle.
It was one of many many issues.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 26, 2013, 07:01:46 PM
Cardiff City and Swansea City are locked in a battle for West Bromwich Albion forward Peter Odemwingie. according to Wales online.
Swansea manager Michael Laudrup revealed his interest in the 32-year-old Nigerian after his side slipped to a 1-0 defeat at Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday.
And Bluebirds boss Malky Mackay is set to do battle with Laudrup for Odemwingie’s signature before the transfer window closes on Monday.
Despite some media reports to the contrary, the Echo understands that City are yet to make an offer for Odemwingie but that they are poised to bid with West Brom wanting £2.5m for the player.
But that might be slightly ambitious given Odemwingie’s age and the fact he has less than 12 months on his current contract.
Mackay has been in the market for a winger all summer – England Under-21 cap Thomas Ince rejected the chance of an £8m move to Cardiff – and the pacy Odemwingie can operate either out wide or through the middle.
The eyes of our South Wales fans should now be firmly peeled on the new Cardiff City Stadium or the Liberty Stadium in Swansea just in case Mr Odemwingie turns up unannounced ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 26, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
I know he has to go but strengthening one of our rivals is not ideal. The whole situation has been a farce.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 26, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
I know he has to go but strengthening one of our rivals is not ideal. The whole situation has been a farce.

Doesn't matter. Get rid, we can use those funds to get someone here that wants to be here
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hunsletbaggie on August 26, 2013, 07:31:00 PM
Well done Jeremy could have sold him in Jan for 3 million to QPR when we were more or less safe and he would be playing in the championship now .
7 months later god knows how much we have paid in wages for him doing sweet FA and 3 bids all on the table of a million pound less and all from clubs that will be a threat to our survival.
You can bet this will come back to haunt us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 26, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
Well done Jeremy could have sold him in Jan for 3 million to QPR when we were more or less safe and he would be playing in the championship now .
7 months later god knows how much we have paid in wages for him doing sweet FA and 3 bids all on the table of a million pound less and all from clubs that will be a threat to our survival.
You can bet this will come back to haunt us.

QPR's bid was a lowball bid to unsettle our player. PO then had a meltdown that reduced his value. I'd be surprised if we didn't get £3+ million for him now though with several clubs desperate for reinforcements.

What is more important for us is that we get quality in now before the window closes and hopefully the PO money can help with that.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wappingbaggie on August 27, 2013, 01:02:04 AM
Well done Jeremy could have sold him in Jan for 3 million to QPR when we were more or less safe and he would be playing in the championship now .
7 months later god knows how much we have paid in wages for him doing sweet FA and 3 bids all on the table of a million pound less and all from clubs that will be a threat to our survival.
You can bet this will come back to haunt us.

I think the opposite is true - I think in the long term it was money well spent - people will know we cannot be pushed around and we will keep all players that are under contract AND there was a principle more important than money - we are a great club with a long and distinguished history, we wont be pushed around by Peter and 'Arry (or anyone else)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on August 27, 2013, 07:59:20 AM
I think the opposite is true - I think in the long term it was money well spent - people will know we cannot be pushed around and we will keep all players that are under contract AND there was a principle more important than money - we are a great club with a long and distinguished history, we wont be pushed around by Peter and 'Arry (or anyone else)

This fact could also hinder us when trying to sign players, they and their agents all talk to each other
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on August 27, 2013, 08:14:02 AM
This fact could also hinder us when trying to sign players, they and their agents all talk to each other
If it does, good.  Wouldn't want players who were thinking like that anyway.  I work to my contract, so does the postie and the bloke at KwikFit.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 27, 2013, 08:16:46 AM
We should really be signing players of his quality ourselves
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: overseas baggie on August 27, 2013, 08:26:08 AM
If it does, good.  Wouldn't want players who were thinking like that anyway.  I work to my contract, so does the postie and the bloke at KwikFit.

I totally agree.  If it means that we only sign non-troublemakers and avoid a repeat of Odemwingie, then that's a positive!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dexy on August 27, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
For all his baggage the only way this ends as a positive for us is if we can replace him properly......i hope Sinclair will cover the wide part but I'm no convinced the goals have or will be replaced. We really do need a rabbit out of the hat this time.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on August 27, 2013, 11:29:29 AM
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/08/27/swansea-poised-to-increase-peter-odemwingie-offer/

The Swans are now favourites for Odemwingie’s signature despite their opening bid falling short of rivals Cardiff and Stoke.

The Nigeria international has made it clear the Liberty Stadium is his preferred destination and Albion now expect Michael Laudrup to increase his opening offer of £1.8m, submitted at the weekend.

That bid remains on the table along with £2m proposals from the Bluebirds and the Potters, although the Baggies have made it clear the Swans’ opening gambit fell short of their valuation and expect an increase in the next few days.

They could hold off on sanctioning any more until transfer deadline day next Monday – after the sides meet at The Hawthorns on Sunday in the Premier League – but there appears to be a will on both sides for a deal to be agreed in principle by the end of this week.

West Ham and Fulham both had £1.5m bids with add-ons rejected earlier in the summer while Crystal Palace also expressed an interest. Odemwingie is determined to move to the Liberty Stadium with the lure of Europa League football putting Laudrup’s side above Cardiff and Stoke in his thinking.

Albion remain keen to add at least two more players to their squad with another winger still their No.1 priority.

Marseille’s Morgan Amalfitano remains a possibility but the Baggies are considering alternative targets, although they will not be pursuing Valencia’s Pablo Piatti despite his agent claiming The Hawthorns was an option for the Argentine.

Albion are also looking for a forward but Nicklas Bendtner is not a target and Marseille’s Jordan Ayew is no more than a fall-back option.


From the above he is more than likely off to Swansea.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on August 27, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Interesting to have Cardiff and Swansea both bidding.

As new kids on the block Cardiff will not take kindly to playing second fiddle to the Jacks.

If Swans match the Bluebirds bid of £2m expect further escalation from Cardiff.

JP must be a happy bunny
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 27, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
Interesting to have Cardiff and Swansea both bidding.

As new kids on the block Cardiff will not take kindly to playing second fiddle to the Jacks.

If Swans match the Bluebirds bid of £2m expect further escalation from Cardiff.

JP must be a happy bunny

He certainly will. Gives him next to no time to spend it too.  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 27, 2013, 11:07:33 PM
It doesn't look as if Odemwhinger is going to Swansea. The South Wales Evening Post is tonight reporting that Swansea have reportedly tabled a £2.5 million bid for Getafe striker Alvaro Vazquez.
Michael Laudrup stated during pre-season that he did not want to sign any more Spaniards after recruiting three La Liga players - Jose Canas, Jordi Amat and Alejandro Pozuelo - over the summer.
But there are now suggestions that Laudrup has gone back to Spain with an offer for Vazquez.
Espanyol product Vazquez only moved to Getafe last summer, but struggled to make an impact with the Madrid club last season.
However, the 22-year-old has an impressive record for both the Spanish Under-21s and Under-20s.
Laudrup has made it clear that he is determined to sign a forward before next Monday's transfer deadline.
If Vazquez signs, Swansea will have eight Spanish players in their first-team squad.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 28, 2013, 04:03:38 AM
With Cardiff City eyeing another striker Stoke is the more likely destination for Odemwhinger.


Stoke's Mark Hughes has set his sights on landing Queens Park Rangers winger Junior Hoilett and West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie, the Mirror is reporting today.
Former QPR boss Hughes is desperate to bring in Hoilett, who he bought for the Londoners last summer, and bad-boy striker Odemwingie, who has not played this term after falling out with the Baggies last season.
The Potters manager's assistant, Mark Bowen, said: “It’s difficult to sign players but Mark and the board want to add strength to the squad.
“Junior and Peter belong to other clubs, but they are two players we know.
“Peter has got a great record in the Premier League and is proven. He’s had a difficult time but we have the admiration for him as he’s a top player.”
Earlier, the Potters signed Liverpool winger Oussama Assaidi on a season-long loan as part if Hughes' attempts to revitalise the squad he inherited this summer from predecessor Tony Pulis.
Stoke beat Genoa, Anderlecht and Feyenoord to the Morocco international, 25, who played just 12 times last term in his debut season of English football.
Kop boss Brendan Rodgers wants him to have more game time.
Bowen said: “We’ve done our homework on it and he is a player that Brendan Rodgers thinks highly of. He’s very pacey and very direct.
“He likes getting at players and committing them. Mark likes that and we’ll be delighted to have him.”





   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on August 28, 2013, 09:31:55 PM
I can't really see us letting him join such close rivals.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on August 28, 2013, 11:05:50 PM
If he goes to Swansea, I hope it would be too late to play on Sunday!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 28, 2013, 11:18:15 PM
If he goes to Swansea, I hope it would be too late to play on Sunday!

If he goes to Swansea I would expect we insist on a deal that he can't play or it will be completed after the game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: saml30 on August 28, 2013, 11:51:24 PM
If he goes to Swansea, I hope it would be too late to play on Sunday!

doubt he would be anywhere near fit enough
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 29, 2013, 12:11:47 AM
doubt he would be anywhere near fit enough

Played the 90 minutes and scored on his debut 24 hours after flying in from Russia having had a similar hiatus.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 29, 2013, 06:57:05 AM
Looks like Petes reputation precedes him!

http://hereisthecity.com/2013/08/29/swansea-want-a-new-striker-why-it-shouldnt-be-odemwingie/
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on August 29, 2013, 11:02:23 PM
When/if he goes and when/if he carries out his threat to "spill the beans" I hope the club has the sense to preserve a dignified silence like Nigella Lawson.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: valleybaggie on August 30, 2013, 12:54:49 AM
i would rather he signs for swansea as they look comfortable to stay up even before he signs. i think both cardiff and stoke will struggle to stay up and even though how much lack of respect he's given us he can still get into double figures for this season. so if we do struggle relegation wise why strengthen our competitors
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 30, 2013, 11:25:06 AM
Steven B ?@StevenWBA

Looks like the #wba and @OdemwingieP saga is coming to a close.


Odemwingie also tweeted this morning claiming today is a special day.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 30, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
Steven B ?@StevenWBA

Looks like the #wba and @OdemwingieP saga is coming to a close.


Odemwingie also tweeted this morning claiming today is a special day.

Bet he doesn't sign for the swans until after 12.00 thus making him unavailable for Sunday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 30, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
Odemwingie also tweeted this morning claiming today is a special day.
Fingers crossed then (finally)!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 30, 2013, 11:55:26 AM
Bet he doesn't sign for the swans until after 12.00 thus making him unavailable for Sunday.

Is the cut off point not something like 4pm?

Remember Odemwingie being in a similar position when he joined us and that was completed after 12 and he still played the following day.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 30, 2013, 11:57:34 AM
Lets just hope he is replaced
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on August 30, 2013, 12:04:31 PM

Is the cut off point not something like 4pm?

Remember Odemwingie being in a similar position when he joined us and that was completed after 12 and he still played the following day.
In that case I think the deal was done before 12 and announced later. Issue was he needed his international clearance and registration sorted, which be as late as a few hours before the game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mannimc on August 30, 2013, 12:07:08 PM
Its a little bit of a sad day and it didnt really need to end like this.

Bit gutted because we all know he will score at least 10 goald

Thank you for all the good times Pete but you broke our hearts!!!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: elminius on August 30, 2013, 12:18:17 PM
Its a little bit of a sad day and it didnt really need to end like this.

Bit gutted because we all know he will score at least 10 goald

Thank you for all the good times Pete but you broke our hearts!!!

and my tv remote when i threw it at the screen during the QPR farce!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 30, 2013, 01:28:22 PM
He most likely helped kill a few cats too
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 30, 2013, 01:37:30 PM
Stoke gone from 8/1 to 6/4 ... Will dislike the man even more if he goes there!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Smooth Lad on August 30, 2013, 01:38:41 PM
It'll be interesting to see how he performs if he does ever play against us as he never had to play against his former club for us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 30, 2013, 01:42:11 PM
Really, who cares where he goes?
I'll just be glad to see the back of him because as sure as eggs are eggs com January his agent will be saying how great hes's done and other clubs are now interested in him blah blah blah.
If he comes back here and scores so what? He won't be the first player to score against one of his old sides and won't be the last.
Good riddance in anticipation.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Savvas78 on August 30, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
Here here, tuamigos! He's nothing but a waste of salary now in my eyes.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 30, 2013, 01:45:27 PM
Stoke gone from 8/1 to 6/4 ... Will dislike the man even more if he goes there!
Part ex for Ken Wyn?

Makes sense as Wife and new child stay close to her parents, possibly wouldn't have to move house- we all know he likes a drive!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: JDWest_Brom on August 30, 2013, 01:58:05 PM
Swap for Kightly?  8)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on August 30, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
I thought today was supposed to be the day?! Would have hoped he'd be gone by now?! Maybe we delayed it till after 4 so he can't play for Swansea? Bet we announce the fee, so wba prove to the crowd this was worth it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: phbaggies on August 30, 2013, 04:46:11 PM
I reckon he was saying it was a special day as he was peeing himself at the wba meltdown on Twitter, JP getting a slating and Clarke stressing over no signings!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Londonbaggymike on August 30, 2013, 09:54:14 PM
I think he's some kind of ambassador for Man Utd these days.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: popbaggie28 on August 30, 2013, 10:25:29 PM
Straight swap for vaz te at West Ham job done  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on August 30, 2013, 10:27:17 PM
Straight swap for vaz te at West Ham job done  ;)

Vaz Te and a couple of mill perhaps. One is a proven prem goalscorer - the other isn't.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on August 30, 2013, 11:00:36 PM
Just seen on the Birmingham mail website that we want 4 million for him, think that will just about price everyone out.

It's one thing trying to get the best price, but this is taking it too far.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Legend on August 30, 2013, 11:22:04 PM
Looks like he's staying then. :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie96 on August 30, 2013, 11:25:01 PM
Lets be honest, sinclair anelka odemwingie would be our best ever forward line in the prem
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: johnthebaggie on August 30, 2013, 11:28:53 PM
Lets be honest, sinclair anelka odemwingie would be our best ever forward line in the prem
Totally agree, if everyone could just get along and move on Peter is a major asset.

Unfortunately, I can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on August 30, 2013, 11:31:54 PM
I'm getting resigned to the fact that we will have to re-integrate Odemwingie into the squad. After all, he hasn't murdered or shot anyone - he's just been a prize twit (forgive the pun), certainly no worse than Tevez was at Man City. We are not a rich club and cannot afford to throw away £40,000 a week just to save face. If JP can't do a deal then let's get him scoring goals for us again
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie96 on August 30, 2013, 11:36:12 PM
Totally agree, if everyone could just get along and move on Peter is a major asset.

Unfortunately, I can't see it happening.
Think he'll stay and when a new head coach comes in, odemwingie will be talked into staying, he's an asset. Versatile. Exactly what we're looking for, why spend millions when you've already got it?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: charlebaggie on August 30, 2013, 11:36:56 PM
I'm getting resigned to the fact that we will have to re-integrate Odemwingie into the squad. After all, he hasn't murdered or shot anyone - he's just been a prize twit (forgive the pun), certainly no worse than Tevez was at Man City. We are not a rich club and cannot afford to throw away £40,000 a week just to save face. If JP can't do a deal then let's get him scoring goals for us again
. Totally agree but once JP has made his mind up that's it
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 30, 2013, 11:53:40 PM
PLEASE PUT LINKS TO ANY STORIES TAKEN FROM NEWSPAPERS

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-boss-facing-odemwingie-5819679

Steve Clarke is braced for the uneasy prospect of bringing Peter Odemwingie back into his first-team plans - as interested clubs struggle to match Albion’s valuation for the striker.

Albion are still trying to bring in at least two offensive players before Monday's deadline, with Marseille's Morgan Amalfitano one of the targets.

Victor Moses, another one Albion are keen on, is wanted by several clubs and is a far trickier proposition.

However, the Odemwingie situation also needs resolving.

The Baggies have three offers on the table, from Cardiff and Stoke in the region of £2million, with a £1.8million bid from Swansea.

But they have been informed they will need to pay in the region of £4million, which makes a pre-deadline day sale unlikely unless the Baggies lower their expectations.

There were further talks yesterday between the clubs, which could yet see the matter resolved.

Odemwingie, aged 32, is out of contract next summer but Albion are wary that they would be selling a proven goalscorer to a Premier League rival.

The striker has trained on his own since returning to the club following the summer break.

He has not been named in any of Albion’s squads so far.

Clarke now faces the awkward possibility of potentially having to reintegrate Odemwingie back into his squad if the player has not been sold by the end of play on Monday.

Clarke said: “There is supposed interest in Peter but I have been more concerned with trying to get players into the squad.

“I haven’t given it (Odemwingie situation) much thought.

“If he’s still here on the morning of February 3 then we will deal with that one. 

“I still need a couple more in the forward areas. Competition for places is great - last year I ran with five out and out forwards, it worked well and we scored a lot of goals.

“As for Peter, it’s a big if regarding him- a big, big if.

“Let’s see what happens after that. I will shape my squad after that.”

Another player who could potentially leave is Gabi Tamas.

The Romanian defender has been told he can leave following the signing of Diego Lugano.

Clarke is also keen to see Craig Dawson develop into a player who pushes for a first-team spot.

That will come as a blow to Bolton Wanderers, who were interested in taking him back on loan following his impressive spell at the club last year.

“At the moment maybe Gabi Tamas will go out,” added Clarke.

“Maybe it’s time for him to get his career moving again.

“He’s a romanian international - he’s been here a while and it might help him if he can get a move. 

“If I was in Gabi’s position I’d be looking to play.

“I also think Craig has a big season. I want him to push to be in my squad.”
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 31, 2013, 02:04:25 AM
Steve Clarke is braced for the uneasy prospect of bringing Peter Odemwingie back into his first-team plans - as interested clubs struggle to match Albion’s valuation for the striker.

Albion are still trying to bring in at least two offensive players before Monday's deadline, with Marseille's Morgan Amalfitano one of the targets.

Victor Moses, another one Albion are keen on, is wanted by several clubs and is a far trickier proposition.

However, the Odemwingie situation also needs resolving.

The Baggies have three offers on the table, from Cardiff and Stoke in the region of £2million, with a £1.8million bid from Swansea.

But they have been informed they will need to pay in the region of £4million, which makes a pre-deadline day sale unlikely unless the Baggies lower their expectations.

There were further talks yesterday between the clubs, which could yet see the matter resolved.

Odemwingie, aged 32, is out of contract next summer but Albion are wary that they would be selling a proven goalscorer to a Premier League rival.

The striker has trained on his own since returning to the club following the summer break.

He has not been named in any of Albion’s squads so far.

Clarke now faces the awkward possibility of potentially having to reintegrate Odemwingie back into his squad if the player has not been sold by the end of play on Monday.

Clarke said: “There is supposed interest in Peter but I have been more concerned with trying to get players into the squad.

“I haven’t given it (Odemwingie situation) much thought.

“If he’s still here on the morning of February 3 then we will deal with that one. 

“I still need a couple more in the forward areas. Competition for places is great - last year I ran with five out and out forwards, it worked well and we scored a lot of goals.

“As for Peter, it’s a big if regarding him- a big, big if.

“Let’s see what happens after that. I will shape my squad after that.”

Another player who could potentially leave is Gabi Tamas.

The Romanian defender has been told he can leave following the signing of Diego Lugano.

Clarke is also keen to see Craig Dawson develop into a player who pushes for a first-team spot.

That will come as a blow to Bolton Wanderers, who were interested in taking him back on loan following his impressive spell at the club last year.

“At the moment maybe Gabi Tamas will go out,” added Clarke.

“Maybe it’s time for him to get his career moving again.

“He’s a romanian international - he’s been here a while and it might help him if he can get a move. 

“If I was in Gabi’s position I’d be looking to play.

“I also think Craig has a big season. I want him to push to be in my squad.”

Source?

If true this is THE best news of the summer transfer window!!  :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 31, 2013, 02:18:48 AM
Source?

If true this is THE best news of the summer transfer window!!  :)

Couldn't agree more. Pete is a w@nker for the way he has behaved, but he is one of the best players we have had in the last 20 years, so even if he doesn't play for us again, he doesn't strengthen a rival and if he does play for us, we have solved the problem we had by his "departure". I have said all along that JP would hold out for over £3m, while he doesn't like spending the cash the upside is he won;t be manipulated into letting players go on the cheap. You have to admire that about him, he's a serious hardball player. 

I can just picture it now...

SC: "Hey JP, why you no buy me the players I need son"
JP: "I refuse to pay these absurd transfer fee's, it'sjust not in my nature old boy"
SC: "Well you ken F$%& right orf if ye think we gan stee up with this shower o shi**e
JP: Well my good fellow, what if I could get you a player who is guaranteed to score goals, can play out wide, as a lone (not loan) striker and in a 442, who has scored double figures in recent seasons.
SC: Eh right you canny f*£$&r. who would that be now?
JP: I'll give you a clue. He supports QPR
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WSBaggie on August 31, 2013, 02:25:25 AM
If we sell him he will be an absolute bargain for another PL team. If I were Peace I would be trying everything to ship him abroad, problem is the reported interest only really seems to be coming from England.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 31, 2013, 02:31:53 AM
If we sell him he will be an absolute bargain for another PL team. If I were Peace I would be trying everything to ship him abroad, problem is the reported interest only really seems to be coming from England.

Exactly, it may pay us to let him rot in the reserves as a worse case scenario. I'm sure that he would play again when faced with the rest of his career going down the pan. Little children like Pete need to be disciplined. As soon as he knows that he can't get his own way, he's the one under pressure. If JP made him stay, I would have so much respect for him. It might costs us a few million, but could save us more in the future when players who join us realize that we refuse to be manipulated and exploited.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 31, 2013, 06:15:01 AM
If we're holding out for an unrealistic figure of £4m, it's scandalous IMO. The club doesn't want him here, Clarke doesn't want him here and he doesn't want to be here, so not to sell him would be masochistic in the extreme. We need to be able to reassign the wages we're paying him to someone else.

I've previously described Odemwhingie's continuing presence at the club as being a festering carbuncle and that's exactly what it is, so I'm appalled at this latest apparent turn of events and wish someone, somewhere would knock come sense into Peace's head over this.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 31, 2013, 06:18:49 AM
I think if Pete stays it will be the beginning of the end for SC.
Clarke has intimated all along that Pete will play no further part in his plans, I would imagine the way that the club is set up it would be Clarke who instigated Pete training with the kids, a move I applaud.
The reason that Pete's still here is the fact that the club are holding out for what they consider a fair fee.
Now I'm no financial wizard but if were shelling out (as reported) £40k a week in wages with no return then the quicker he's off the books the better. Obviously the club are thinking differently.
So if Pete HAS to come back into the reckoning who's going to look like Bill Big Bollox and who's going to be left with egg on his chin?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on August 31, 2013, 06:31:23 AM
Totally agree with you on this. If Pete stays and SC has not been able to buy because of a ridiculous asking price for PO then the writing is on the wall. I don't see SC staying much longer if this plays out.
How many times are we going to see a potentially a good manager being asked to work with little money falling out with JP?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 31, 2013, 06:34:11 AM
What level of performance would people expect from Odemwhingie if he ended up staying? He has a history at other clubs of his performance levels falling away over time as he became more disenchanted for whatever reason, and the events that have brought about his ostracisation here haven't happened to him elsewhere. Therefore, I think anyone who would expect him to play at a level that's anything approaching what he did before is being unrealistic. He's finished here and we absolutely must get shot of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on August 31, 2013, 07:09:06 AM
This transfer window is a bloody car crash
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on August 31, 2013, 07:42:48 AM
Looking at it anotrher way up to, and including today, its 35 weeks since the last transfer window.
In that time, if PO is on £40k a week as reported, that £1.4m we have paid him in wages.
For what?
With his current valuation by the club it looks to me that JP is trying to recover his wages as well, and force Clarkes hand by putting him in a position whereby he is forced to play PO.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: sportygirlwba on August 31, 2013, 07:48:43 AM
Lets just hope he is replaced

Totally agree with the above. We are really missing Odemwingie as he is a creative player and knows where the net is. We need to today sign a player that is like Odemwingie or Lukaku. Last season Lukaku was a very good if not better replacement for Odemwingie now we don't even have one.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Floydy on August 31, 2013, 08:31:51 AM
If the club thought there was even a small chance of Odemwingie being part of the squad come 3rd of September, he should have been included in pre-season and training with the squad.

If he is bought back into the squad now, he will not have any match fitness.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on August 31, 2013, 08:47:25 AM
Get rid of the nob, peace has made a balls of this situation from the very start. The boy was probably told that there was a deal going through with qpr but the goal posts were moved by their chairman in relation to hoilet and peace got the hump and upend his price for Peter ( whom is a twonk for the way he carried ) 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on August 31, 2013, 08:48:04 AM
JP is playing his usual game of poker leaving it up to the last day of the transfer window hoping some club is going to get desperate and pay £4 million for PO. So I think that he will still be with us on September 3rd. 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on August 31, 2013, 09:06:07 AM
Does nobody on here understand negotiating? There are six or so teams interested. Three of them have offers around £2m on the table. Proven Prem goal-scorers are a premium product. Everybody wants them (including us). JP thinks £3m + is not unreasonable. Did we not think Kalou at £2.6m a steal?
The way to get £3m. Ask for £4m and settle in for a game of poker . Swansea, Cardiff and Stoke aren't exactly noted for a tendency to keep their hands in their pockets now, are they?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on August 31, 2013, 09:52:03 AM
Anyone think we may look for a player in exchange? As it edges towards 11 pm on Monday it may be our best chance to replace him?

£1.5-£2 million plus a player on top is probably fair. Not sure who is available, think Stoke have the most options. Maybe Kightly or Jones, or possibly even a right back like Cameron or Shotton? Not much at Swansea, Routledge at a push? Or again a right back, maybe Ashley Richards. They are hardly world beaters but at least we would get another body through the door.

Kightly is probably the best option. Not the greatest player but he's decent enough, plays a position we need, is the easiest to do logistically on deadline day and probably has the easiest decision to make as he knows the area and probably wouldn't have to move.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 31, 2013, 09:54:45 AM
Does nobody on here understand negotiating? There are six or so teams interested. Three of them have offers around £2m on the table. Proven Prem goal-scorers are a premium product. Everybody wants them (including us). JP thinks £3m + is not unreasonable. Did we not think Kalou at £2.6m a steal?
The way to get £3m. Ask for £4m and settle in for a game of poker . Swansea, Cardiff and Stoke aren't exactly noted for a tendency to keep their hands in their pockets now, are they?

Only problem being if it goes down to the wire before we come to an agreement with someone and then fail to replace him, not like we have done anything like that before  >:(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on August 31, 2013, 10:29:27 AM
Anyone think we may look for a player in exchange? As it edges towards 11 pm on Monday it may be our best chance to replace him?

£1.5-£2 million plus a player on top is probably fair. Not sure who is available, think Stoke have the most options. Maybe Kightly or Jones, or possibly even a right back like Cameron or Shotton? Not much at Swansea, Routledge at a push? Or again a right back, maybe Ashley Richards. They are hardly world beaters but at least we would get another body through the door.

Kightly is probably the best option. Not the greatest player but he's decent enough, plays a position we need, is the easiest to do logistically on deadline day and probably has the easiest decision to make as he knows the area and probably wouldn't have to move.
Right club wrong player possibly? Was thinking along the lines of Kenwynne Jones if Stoke turns out to be his destination
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 31, 2013, 11:06:01 AM
Does nobody on here understand negotiating?
Yes, we did it so well with Odemwhingie in January, didn't we, that it's cost us a shed load of money to have him here since then, and yet here we are in danger of doing exactly the same thing again.

If brinkmanship takes you down to the final day of the day of the window, there's every chance of running out of time on the day and we've been there before. If there's an interdependency between outgoing and incoming deals, they need agreeing now, today, rather than it coming down to relying on everything falling into place at the last chance saloon on Monday.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 31, 2013, 11:12:45 AM
Source?

If true this is THE best news of the summer transfer window!!  :)
Its in the Birmingham Mail  :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 31, 2013, 11:16:03 AM
I fully understand our stance trying to get all we can for Odemwingie, but now the time has come to just get him off the wage bill and use the money elsewhere in terms of a transfer fee I don't believe Odemwingie really owes us anything, we only paid £2.5M for him and have more than got that back I think its time now to accept anything less than £2M for him...thoughts ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 31, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
Its in the Birmingham Mail  :)

Can you link to it in future please mate, saves us a few problems.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 31, 2013, 11:18:24 AM
Can you link to it in future please mate, saves us a few problems.
yeah no worries  :)
belated link:

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-boss-facing-odemwingie-5819679
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 31, 2013, 11:28:15 AM
Well worth the 4 million, proven premier league goal scorer
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on August 31, 2013, 11:32:36 AM
32 years old, trouble maker, last year of his contract, worth no where near £4 million.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 31, 2013, 11:36:15 AM
Norwich, cardiff,hull,southampton,swansea and the likes all paying millions on strikers without premier pedigree. i know which one i would spend 4 million on to keep me in the greed league
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on August 31, 2013, 11:50:39 AM
32 years old, trouble maker, last year of his contract, worth no where near £4 million.

He is if you get that one great season out of him - a season that keeps a promoted team up !

Either way, we are strengthening rivals with a player that has an attacking ability better arguably than anyone we have left in our squad !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Smooth Lad on August 31, 2013, 12:00:29 PM
32 years old, trouble maker, last year of his contract, worth no where near £4 million.

Please behave.

Proven 10+ goals a season. That's easily the difference between just getting relegated and stopping up comfortably in 14th.

He's proven when he wants to play he will score you goals from nothing.

If i was Cardiff, Swansea or Stoke i'd be rubbing my hands together.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggiejohn on August 31, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
Perhaps WBA are buying time until after tomorrow?

Following PO's tweet yesterday morning, a lot thought he was on his way.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 31, 2013, 12:06:02 PM
Perhaps WBA are buying time until after tomorrow?

Following PO's tweet yesterday morning, a lot thought he was on his way.



Perhaps his tweet was related to staying with the mighty West Bromwich Albion :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: pattayabaggie on August 31, 2013, 12:23:12 PM
Perhaps WBA are buying time until after tomorrow?

Following PO's tweet yesterday morning, a lot thought he was on his way.
what did he say ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WSBaggie on August 31, 2013, 12:25:31 PM
If we're holding out for an unrealistic figure of £4m, it's scandalous IMO. The club doesn't want him here, Clarke doesn't want him here and he doesn't want to be here, so not to sell him would be masochistic in the extreme. We need to be able to reassign the wages we're paying him to someone else.

I've previously described Odemwhingie's continuing presence at the club as being a festering carbuncle and that's exactly what it is, so I'm appalled at this latest apparent turn of events and wish someone, somewhere would knock come sense into Peace's head over this.

I tell you what is scandalous, one of our PL rivals getting a proven goalscorer for £1-£2m. The price tag is fair to us, end of.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 31, 2013, 01:38:31 PM
I tell you what is scandalous, one of our PL rivals getting a proven goalscorer for £1-£2m.
Well, failing to sell him in January had consequences - we should have moved heaven and earth to agree a deal in the January window and we failed. His outbursts, exclusion from the first team squad, reduction in the duration of his contract remaining and no pre-season games have all combined to reduce his value. In addition to that, everyone knows that we want him out and that he wants to leave. It's time for Peace to get real and do a deal!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WSBaggie on August 31, 2013, 01:58:35 PM
Well, failing to sell him in January had consequences - we should have moved heaven and earth to agree a deal in the January window and we failed. His outbursts, exclusion from the first team squad, reduction in the duration of his contract remaining and no pre-season games have all combined to reduce his value. In addition to that, everyone knows that we want him out and that he wants to leave. It's time for Peace to get real and do a deal!

In hindsight we would have done anything to sell him in January.

Unfortunately thats not how it works...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie82 on August 31, 2013, 03:15:37 PM
32 years old, trouble maker

Played: 87, Scored: 30 - Seems like the sort of trouble we desperately need if you ask me.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on August 31, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
I tell you what is scandalous, one of our PL rivals getting a proven goalscorer for £1-£2m. The price tag is fair to us, end of.

Very true - why would we want to sell to potential rivals at below the 'worth' of the player - a player who could come back to haunt us if we struggle this season .
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B714LF on August 31, 2013, 03:53:34 PM
Played: 87, Scored: 30 - Seems like the sort of trouble we desperately need if you ask me.

Quality!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andzy on August 31, 2013, 06:26:00 PM
We all know how this one will turn out he will be sold Monday with no time to replace him like has happened before.
I think what concerns me more is we all know that if we don't get the players we need in now we wont be getting anyone in January either as we never do much then.
I'm going to say this and probably get slaughtered for it but here goes
I think Mr Peace has taken this club as far as he can we need investment we have a aging squad that is going to need replacing and not by loans, this summer we have stood still with the transfers we have made bar 1 (Sinclair) and please don't give me the country captain and world cup winner rubbish please these are aging players, we finished 8th last season because we had a very good start if we play like we did in the second half of last season which looks likely this season we are down simple.
So from me its thank you for all you've done Mr Peace but could you please look for outside investment to help us progress.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on August 31, 2013, 06:49:54 PM
We all know how this one will turn out he will be sold Monday with no time to replace him like has happened before.
I think what concerns me more is we all know that if we don't get the players we need in now we wont be getting anyone in January either as we never do much then.
I'm going to say this and probably get slaughtered for it but here goes
I think Mr Peace has taken this club as far as he can we need investment we have a aging squad that is going to need replacing and not by loans, this summer we have stood still with the transfers we have made bar 1 (Sinclair) and please don't give me the country captain and world cup winner rubbish please these are aging players, we finished 8th last season because we had a very good start if we play like we did in the second half of last season which looks likely this season we are down simple.
So from me its thank you for all you've done Mr Peace but could you please look for outside investment to help us progress.

The 'ageing' Country Captain is younger then MacAuley, shall we bin him too? & I'm not sure who the World Cup winner is, hard to take the rest of the post serious tbh   

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on August 31, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
The 'ageing' Country Captain is younger then MacAuley, shall we bin him too? & I'm not sure who the World Cup winner is, hard to take the rest of the post serious tbh

Didn't Anelka win the tiddlywinks world cup?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WSBaggie on August 31, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
We all know how this one will turn out he will be sold Monday with no time to replace him like has happened before.
I think what concerns me more is we all know that if we don't get the players we need in now we wont be getting anyone in January either as we never do much then.
I'm going to say this and probably get slaughtered for it but here goes
I think Mr Peace has taken this club as far as he can we need investment we have a aging squad that is going to need replacing and not by loans, this summer we have stood still with the transfers we have made bar 1 (Sinclair) and please don't give me the country captain and world cup winner rubbish please these are aging players, we finished 8th last season because we had a very good start if we play like we did in the second half of last season which looks likely this season we are down simple.
So from me its thank you for all you've done Mr Peace but could you please look for outside investment to help us progress.

I think Peace has stated many times we are looking for investment, we were as good as put up for sale a couple of seasons ago.

You cannot judge our business after two games either, unless you have done the same the past 3 seasons and ended up looking stupid at the end of every season.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggiejohn on August 31, 2013, 07:19:15 PM


what did he say ?

Taken from his twitter page

Quote
Peter Odemwingie @OdemwingieP 30 Aug

Today is a Special day !  ????????????????????
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on August 31, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
Didn't Anelka win the tiddlywinks world cup?

 ;D sorry I thought the poster meant the Football World Cup.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 31, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
Source?

If true this is THE best news of the summer transfer window!!  :)
Me , you and pete, in the vine for a Guinness ? :D
If he stays and plays he scores ..simple
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on August 31, 2013, 07:59:32 PM
Me , you and pete, in the vine for a Guinness ? :D
If he stays and plays he scores ..simple

Dunno about that. The Very Special One can be quite a selfish player when he wants to be and sabotage the team effort... holding on to the ball for too long, taking shots from hopeless positions etc. He'd need endless massaging of his ego to return to something approximating efficiency. And if he didn't get his way he'd just throw his toys out of the pram again... and again... and again... just like he has for the last 30 years or so.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on August 31, 2013, 08:38:30 PM
Like him or not he is a matchwinner. We don't have one of those currently. He's got his faults but if he hadn't he'd be playing for a much better side. I hope he stays and comes back into the side.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on August 31, 2013, 09:10:54 PM
Like him or not he is a matchwinner. We don't have one of those currently. He's got his faults but if he hadn't he'd be playing for a much better side. I hope he stays and comes back into the side.


Here here SOS (save our season) Peter Odemwingie.I forgive you and we need your goals.I want to stay in this league and with what we have got at this time we are weaker and its going to be a struggle
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alex1 on August 31, 2013, 09:48:19 PM
Dunno about that. The Very Special One can be quite a selfish player when he wants to be and sabotage the team effort... holding on to the ball for too long, taking shots from hopeless positions etc. He'd need endless massaging of his ego to return to something approximating efficiency. And if he didn't get his way he'd just throw his toys out of the pram again... and again... and again... just like he has for the last 30 years or so.


Well said.

He is not a team player. Only interested in one person.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: weareblueweare white on August 31, 2013, 10:18:15 PM

Here here SOS (save our season) Peter Odemwingie.I forgive you and we need your goals.I want to stay in this league and with what we have got at this time we are weaker and its going to be a struggle
So you think he will just pull on an Albion shirt and give his all just like that after all that's gone on and after no pre season training
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on August 31, 2013, 10:43:43 PM
So you think he will just pull on an Albion shirt and give his all just like that after all that's gone on and after no pre season training
Yep, a bit like when robbie Williams has good/bad days, then goes on stage, you would never know?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: weareblueweare white on August 31, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Yep, a bit like when robbie Williams has good/bad days, then goes on stage, you would never know?
Has Robbie Williams had good days???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on September 01, 2013, 06:49:05 AM
What's the betting that the Swansea team bus has a stowaway on board when it leaves the ground this afternoon?  :-X
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on September 01, 2013, 10:10:09 AM
Here's the latest Swansea take on a possible Odemwingie deal - from Wales Online:

WEST BROM could price themselves out of a deal with Swansea City for Peter Odemwingie as Michael Laudrup begins the final hours of the transfer window still on the hunt for a striker.
Laudrup wants an alternative frontman option to record signing Wilfried Bony with Odemwingie’s ability to also operate wide seeing him fit the bill.
The Swans boss – who has also admitted Getafe striker Alavro Vazquez is on his radar – had denied making a bid for the 32-year-old Nigerian but it is thought there has been a firm enquiry made.
Yet it is understood West Brom are holding out for more than Swansea have so far been prepared to offer for the player frozen-out of the first-team picture at The Hawthorns.
Initial Swansea interest is thought to have seen a £1.8m price mentioned with West Brom thought to want £2.5m – yet latest reports from the West Midlands have suggested the Baggies would want as much as £4m.
Although talks could continue come today’s Premier League clash between the two sides, the chances of a deal could hinge on a willingness to compromise on either side – with Stoke and Cardiff both waiting in the wings.
It could see Laudrup look elsewhere with the Dane believed to have other targets in mind, although his apparent want of a player with Premier League experience could see him push with Odemwingie and discard Vazquez for now.
It remains to be seen how high Swansea will be prepared to go given they know the importance of landing the second striker.
And, ahead of the West Brom clash, Laudrup has admitted: “I hope that when I wake up on Monday morning I will have three points in the league and a new forward in my squad.
“I don’t want to do things on Monday because there is a lot of panic before closing time.
“Sometimes you think it’s a sure deal, but then someone comes in and offers more money or convinces the agent or the other club.
“I don’t want to do that. I really hope we can do something in the next 48 hours.”
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on September 01, 2013, 10:17:47 AM
Has Robbie Williams had good days???

Post of the month ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Booker on September 01, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
Yep, a bit like when robbie Williams has good/bad days, then goes on stage, you would never know?

Didn't fatty Williams decline going back to Take That because he thought they would flop without him....then he went back and now they've dissapeared.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: ex coseley kid on September 01, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
Has Robbie Williams had good days???

HaHa no he hasn't - just fat and thin ones!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 01, 2013, 08:47:12 PM
I read earlier that Laudrup said a striker would be signed tomorrow.

I also read earlier from journalists that one of the transfers the board was planning at the training ground was the sale of somebody - the sales you would imagine are either Odemwingie or Tamas but with Swansea interested in Odemwingie, it would come as no surprise to see him finally move on at some point tomorrow.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: addy on September 01, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2408407/Peter-Odemwingie-spotted-London-eve-transfer-deadline-day-AGAIN.html

Doing a bit of shopping today in London.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on September 01, 2013, 09:14:19 PM
Talk of Stoke being interested - how ironic that we could do with an 'Odemwingie' ourselves now !
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: botters on September 01, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
Talk of Stoke being interested - how ironic that we could do with an 'Odemwingie' ourselves now !

Swap deal for Kenwyne Jones?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Welsh_Baggie on September 01, 2013, 09:28:08 PM
One of my mates reckons he saw PO today at Cardiff City Stadium
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 01, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
One of my mates reckons he saw PO today at Cardiff City Stadium

He was shopping in Oxford Street according to the photo in the Daily Mail
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on September 01, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
What's the betting that the Swansea team bus has a stowaway on board when it leaves the ground this afternoon?  :-X

Maybe, but they won't have enough room for all that baggage he comes with as well  ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on September 01, 2013, 10:15:57 PM
One of my mates reckons he saw PO today at Cardiff City Stadium
He was shopping in Oxford Street according to the photo in the Daily Mail

Maybe he has access to Jim White's helicopter to help him get to as many clubs as possible today and tomorrow!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 01, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
142 pages on a proven quality premiership goalscorer, shouldn't we just sign him?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on September 01, 2013, 11:33:07 PM
He should enhance Swanseas powder puff attack
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: philwba1 on September 02, 2013, 12:07:14 AM
Laudrup hinted on MOTD 2 that a striker will sign for them tomorrow. I wonder if its PO ?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on September 02, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
Stoke have signed Arnautovic, who we were linked with earlier in the summer, so that may end their interest in Odemwhingie. Fingers crossed that our brinkmanship won't cost us again like it did in January.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: lordbaggie on September 02, 2013, 08:03:35 AM
As it happens I'm driving to S Wales this morning.

Is a lift required?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on September 02, 2013, 08:08:17 AM
He should enhance Swanseas powder puff attack

Don't call their £12m signing Bony powder puff. He is strong, muscular player who you'd fancy in any arguement :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on September 02, 2013, 10:34:58 AM
Pete been given permission to speak to Cardiff
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on September 02, 2013, 10:38:49 AM
As they have been rumoured to have been interested all summer the optimist in me hopes this means we have a replacement lined up ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Savvas78 on September 02, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
As they have been rumoured to have been interested all summer the optimist in me hopes this means we have a replacement lined up ;)

Hopefully Stephane Saucisson  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 02, 2013, 10:48:27 AM
Looks like PO has learned his lesson  ???

Sent his agent to negotiate with Cardiff, there now Pete doesn't that make more sense?, don't go slagging us on twatter when you've gone.

All the best to you & your family, thanks for the memories.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 02, 2013, 10:53:28 AM
Looks like PO has learned his lesson  ???

Sent his agent to negotiate with Cardiff, there now Pete doesn't that make more sense?, don't go slagging us on twatter when you've gone.

All the best to you & your family, thanks for the memories.
I hope he don't slag us off. Yes thanks for the good memories.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 02, 2013, 10:57:39 AM
Chris Lepkowski ?@chrislepkowski 3m

Colleagues in Wales confirm Odemwingie heading to cardiff. Seems they are in driving seat for him now. #wba


Steve Madeley ?@smadeley_star 4m

As for Odemwingie & Cardiff, agent has been spotted at #ccfc training ground. Might be significant, but the agent has lots of clients.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 02, 2013, 11:12:39 AM
Steve Madeley ?@smadeley_star 2m

Not sure a fee has been finalised yet, but Odemwingie is in Cardiff with Albion's blessing, suggesting an agreement is close. #wba


Hopefully a deal is close. Be interesting to see what figures are quoted. I do wonder whether Swansea might make a last minute ditch for him..
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Vassassin on September 02, 2013, 11:20:14 AM
Good luck PO whichever way it goes, great memories. Pity about your way out.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on September 02, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
I hope and pray that this all goes through without a hitch now. I would imagine the wages we're paying him are earmarked for one of our prospective signings today, so that deal might be dependent on this one going through.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Tony,Germany on September 02, 2013, 03:05:44 PM
Think the transfer fee will be classed as "undisclosed" on this one eh !!!!
to save loss of face....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: A5HB on September 02, 2013, 03:16:11 PM

Think the transfer fee will be classed as "undisclosed" on this one eh !!!!
to save loss of face....
Not sure we will lose any face to be honest. Fee is around £3 million reportedly, which represents decent business for us.


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Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on September 02, 2013, 04:08:10 PM
Sorted.Good riddance
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on September 02, 2013, 04:34:46 PM
Peter is now an ex-Baggie by all accounts. Shame how it ended but at least he's off the wage bill now and we've got a few quid for him. Probably the best forward we'll have seen at the Hawthorns for a good many years.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 02, 2013, 05:03:57 PM
Glad its sorted, right or wrong that he's gone, we all have our views but now its done we can all put it in the past and TRY to remember the good parts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: alwaysbilly on September 02, 2013, 05:07:14 PM
Glad its sorted, right or wrong that he's gone, we all have our views but now its done we can all put it in the past and TRY to remember the good parts.
Yes plenty of good parts, the last one being the equaliser against Villa - since when our form has been shocking and without him we lack a matchwinner and will be our downfall as I dont think he can be replaced.

Sad that it ended like this and we all know he will score against us now - and 6 points for Cardiff.

Hope we have some good news later to boost the loss of Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbhc7 on September 02, 2013, 05:11:39 PM
Training ground bust-up with Bellamy before christmas, I predict.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 02, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
Is it right what I have heard that we got £4 million for him?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 02, 2013, 05:23:22 PM
Glad to put this saga to bed. Everybody can move on. Despite the fact he did what he did I shall remember him fondly, purely because of his performances against Wolves. He's played a big part in getting us to where we are today and he should look at his overall time with us as a success (minus the idiotic parts towards the end).

Is it right what I have heard that we got £4 million for him?

I've seen some Welsh reports claiming around £2.5million but I guess that figure could grow with add on's. I guess we'll find out at some point.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dorrans17Long9 on September 02, 2013, 05:37:44 PM
He may have acted like a complete idiot in the end but without Pete's goals we could have been relegated long ago. Facts are facts and I think it would be hard to argue that he's not Albion's best PL player, certainly goalscorer. Sad to see him go in a way but thanks for the memories Pete, I'm sure many Albion fans will remember that hat-trick for the rest of their days  ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Barrington on September 02, 2013, 06:00:52 PM
Looks like a good time to give the very last outing for a video of highlights from Odemwingie's first season. For some reason Vimeo have reduced the quality slightly. Good times though :)

http://vimeo.com/25599661

You could tell he was genuine quality from the very first game.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mank baggie on September 02, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
 i hope bellamy lamps him the ungratefull d$%k
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: The Black Pearl on September 02, 2013, 06:31:10 PM
Very good player who went a long way to establishing us in the Premiership, always mentally fragile, he was a gamble that not paid off, would Foster and Lukaku have joined us but for his efforts in establishing us, I think not. Thanks Pete, hope you find contentment at your new club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Wbamitch on September 02, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
Yes plenty of good parts, the last one being the equaliser against Villa - since when our form has been shocking and without him we lack a matchwinner and will be our downfall as I dont think he can be replaced.

Sad that it ended like this and we all know he will score against us now - and 6 points for Cardiff.
Hope we have some good news later to boost the loss of Pete.
Agree with your post, although its certainly right to move him on but to Cardiff it could back fire, would much rather Swansea who i dont think will be battling relegation or better still that Dubai club. I would have took less profit for him to go there. we will see at the end of the season, he could be the difference between the two teams.
How sad aye, thanks for the good memories Pete.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on September 02, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Did well for us.
No excuses for what he did at the end.
Good riddance
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggie79 on September 02, 2013, 08:02:52 PM
Although he has now 100% joined Cardiff I cant help feeling upset by the whole affair, Appreciate all the goals and his undoubted quality but disappointed by the fact that he could have been a legend but will be remembered as no more than someone that disrespected the club.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on September 02, 2013, 08:14:59 PM
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on September 02, 2013, 10:48:52 PM
Steve Madeley: "I'm told there is still some legal wrangling holding up the Odemwingie deal. All terms agreed but it's going to the wire."  :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Greenock Baggie on September 03, 2013, 12:01:54 AM
At frapping last, we are rid of this trashy influence from our beloved club. Good riddance I say. Cardiff will come to the same conclusion eventually, may take them a while, probably until the next transfer window when he wants away or his agent wants more money !!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 03, 2013, 12:24:44 AM
A sad if inevitable day, our best player for nearly 30 years... What could have been.

Good Luck Osaze.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: paulosull on September 03, 2013, 01:33:56 AM
Silly sod end of
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Baggies on September 03, 2013, 01:42:13 AM
Amazing player for us at his best but his attitude was terrible. Cardiff are signing a 32 year old who is on the wane but I still think they have made the signing here to complete their strikeforce and one which should see them stay up safely.

We have never finished above 17th without Odemwingie in the side. Worrying fact.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Aixelsyd on September 03, 2013, 05:34:23 AM
Bl**dy Jeremy Peace.....  >:(

what's is he playing at  :(


why in the hell would he sell a player for 2.5 million pounds....

when 50% the posters on this site were demanding we give him away for 1/2 that amount weeks ago!!!!

Massively disappointed in this... PEACE OUT!!!



Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on September 03, 2013, 07:18:34 AM
he's gone, time to move one.

give it a few weeks and he'll have upset all the Cardiff players.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on September 03, 2013, 07:31:41 AM
Although he has now 100% joined Cardiff I cant help feeling upset by the whole affair, Appreciate all the goals and his undoubted quality but disappointed by the fact that he could have been a legend but will be remembered as no more than someone that disrespected the club.

I was thinking this. Another good couple of years, 50+ premier league goals and we would be talking about him in the same breath as the very best players to ever play for the Albion.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on September 03, 2013, 07:34:10 AM
Good ridance. So happy to see the back of him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: QRHcooper on September 03, 2013, 07:42:40 AM
Upsetting to see a proven premiership goal scorer leave for rival but, I'm glad that he has left the squad now as there must have been an uncomfortable atmosphere around with him there!

Onwards and upwards :)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WorcsWBA on September 03, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
I'm delighted that we can finally move on from all of this - the festering carbuncle has been removed! It'll be interesting to see how long it is before he finds something to be disenchanted about at Cardiff.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 03, 2013, 08:29:08 AM
Wait for the idiot to start twittering again soon running the club and fans down. He has gone but he wont be forgotten!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 03, 2013, 09:26:41 AM
I will always have mixed feelings towards Odemwinge all of the goals especially against Wolves will also be something I will look back on with fondness. But what he did to the club was very poor especially after we were the club that saved his career we were owed better than that from him and I couldn't forgive him for that. Lets just hope he has two very poor games against us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: hardtobeat on September 03, 2013, 09:35:49 AM
Strictly on football terms Cardiff have got the best deal of the window now they just need a few sheep to carry all the baggage that travels with him. Have already seen the ´My father in law is a Citeh fan and has told me what a great club this is ´line ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on September 03, 2013, 09:44:28 AM
Bl**dy Jeremy Peace.....  >:(

what's is he playing at  :(


why in the hell would he sell a player for 2.5 million pounds....

when 50% the posters on this site were demanding we give him away for 1/2 that amount weeks ago!!!!

Massively disappointed in this... PEACE OUT!!!

why in the hell would he sell a player for 2.5 million pounds and then replace him with one for more than double the price and half the ability?  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 03, 2013, 10:01:08 AM
He is a match winner on his day as he proved for us several times. With that said he's a year older, hasn't played properly since January and was training with our youth team all pre-season so it could take him a little time to get up to speed for them but he will score goals. Can't help but think we got a decent deal for him in the end considering his contract status and the fact we were clearly desperate to get rid of him.

The telling thing for me was all the players on twitter wishing Lukaku good luck when it was confirmed he was off to Everton but they didn't say anything to Peter when his move was confirmed, silence speaks volumes to me. Those that thought he could have come back into the side had he not got his move were deluded in my opinion.

Its sad that he should have been remembered as a modern day legend for the club but he ruined it all, I won't wish him luck as I am still bitter about how his career here came to an end.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RuncornBaggie on September 03, 2013, 10:40:42 AM
I am just pleased that the whole sorry saga is over!  He will score against us......definately!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smosher34 on September 03, 2013, 10:42:23 AM
i will put £10 on him to score 1st goal against us  :(
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: beechyboy90 on September 03, 2013, 10:55:45 AM
jeremy got his money....

saga over, unecessary as it was, if clarke had played wba players rather than chelsea ones...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 03, 2013, 10:59:27 AM
He is a match winner on his day as he proved for us several times. With that said he's a year older, hasn't played properly since January and was training with our youth team all pre-season so it could take him a little time to get up to speed for them but he will score goals. Can't help but think we got a decent deal for him in the end considering his contract status and the fact we were clearly desperate to get rid of him.

The telling thing for me was all the players on twitter wishing Lukaku good luck when it was confirmed he was off to Everton but they didn't say anything to Peter when his move was confirmed, silence speaks volumes to me. Those that thought he could have come back into the side had he not got his move were deluded in my opinion.

Its sad that he should have been remembered as a modern day legend for the club but he ruined it all, I won't wish him luck as I am still bitter about how his career here came to an end.

More likely they just text him. Don't want to lose face with the fans do they?  ???
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 03, 2013, 11:06:24 AM
Or maybe he just wasn't as popular with certain players, all hyopothetical and not worth making assumptions either way.

The blokes gone, we move on.

Just a reminder to all as he is now an EX player any in game updates etc will be put in the PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD in General Sports so no whinging if you put it in here and it vanishes, try that thread before whining about it to us. Same as any other ex player
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on September 03, 2013, 11:29:34 AM
Or maybe he just wasn't as popular with certain players, all hyopothetical and not worth making assumptions either way.

The blokes gone, we move on.

Just a reminder to all as he is now an EX player any in game updates etc will be put in the PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD in General Sports so no whinging if you put it in here and it vanishes, try that thread before whining about it to us. Same as any other ex player


Best post of this thread.
BYE BYE TROUBLE.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on September 03, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
I would still love to discover exactly what transfer fee we received. I've seen figure ranging from £2.25m to £3m.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: z0011 on September 03, 2013, 09:45:39 PM
I still cant understand why was  Peter Odemwingie so very desperate to leave, he was treated and paid well, he always had both the supporters and team mates admiration.

Yet, in January he let the club down, by his childish actions and made the club look foolish.
Can someone please explain why he was so desperate to leave please.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Chipperfan on September 03, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
he was treated and paid well, he always had both the supporters and team mates

Can someone please explain why he was so desperate to leave please.

Because he is a bell end.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on September 03, 2013, 10:00:15 PM
Because he is a bell end.

Classic
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 03, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
I still cant understand why was  Peter Odemwingie so very desperate to leave, he was treated and paid well, he always had both the supporters and team mates admiration.

Yet, in January he let the club down, by his childish actions and made the club look foolish.
Can someone please explain why he was so desperate to leave please.

Great post  8)

I would say theres probably only one person that can truly answer that my friend & sadly I doubt even he could give a reason that most 'normal' people might understand, if I'm honest I'd say it all centered around money but I may be wrong  :-\
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: PsalmXXIII on September 03, 2013, 10:35:44 PM
jeremy got his money....

saga over, unecessary as it was, if clarke had played wba players rather than chelsea ones...

We wouldn't have finished anywhere near 8th. Of all the choices Clarke has made lets never question his decision to play Lukaku.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2013, 02:32:00 AM
I still cant understand why was  Peter Odemwingie so very desperate to leave, he was treated and paid well, he always had both the supporters and team mates admiration.

Yet, in January he let the club down, by his childish actions and made the club look foolish.
Can someone please explain why he was so desperate to leave please.

He doesn't believe he was treated well, in fact he seems to believe he was lied to more than once. Also he never quite won over the majority of the fans. 2 or 3 times better than Long yet has never had the same hero worship.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 04, 2013, 07:01:25 AM
He doesn't believe he was treated well, in fact he seems to believe he was lied to more than once. Also he never quite won over the majority of the fans. 2 or 3 times better than Long yet has never had the same hero worship.

What utter tosh, the guy was rewarded time & time again with new contracts & it never was enough for 'greedy pete', his name was sung throughout some games & yes he was hero worshipped by a very large majority of supporters, like you, I was at all those matches, difference being I don't choose to ignore the facts in order to win the argument, in his defence he didn't win over all the fans (say like Bob Taylor did) but that was probably down to his greedy nature initially & then most fans turned against him after the QPR fiasco.

I know you've defended him almost to the hilt & you have your own reasons for that but even you cant believe that big old nasty West Brom lied to poor Pete & treated him badly.   
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on September 04, 2013, 07:46:58 AM
When are people going to stop talking about him? He's caused so many problems and now he is an ex player. Can't we start devoting time to our current squad and the season ahead rather than keep recycling the same old comments?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 04, 2013, 08:17:02 AM
When are people going to stop talking about him? He's caused so many problems and now he is an ex player. Can't we start devoting time to our current squad and the season ahead rather than keep recycling the same old comments?

You could just skirt passed this thread if you don't want to read comments.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on September 04, 2013, 09:30:32 AM
He doesn't believe he was treated well, in fact he seems to believe he was lied to more than once. Also he never quite won over the majority of the fans. 2 or 3 times better than Long yet has never had the same hero worship.

WHAT A LOAD OF BULL The Jacko2000
this Prat had ALL of the faithful in his hands & he through it all away.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: smethwickw on September 04, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
He doesn't believe he was treated well, in fact he seems to believe he was lied to more than once. Also he never quite won over the majority of the fans. 2 or 3 times better than Long yet has never had the same hero worship.

I have to agree here. I know many Albion fans who bizarrely had never taken to him even before things went pear shaped. The same can be said for other players of a similar type. Koumas & Kamara spring to mind. Quality players who are very much hit or miss but on their day are matchwinners. I see Sessegnon falling into this catergory. Give the fans a grafter with little quality and they will hero worship them.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Albion79 on September 04, 2013, 10:33:28 AM
Odemwingie did have the fans on side, i cant recall many players in recent history who have had a banner made specially to welcome him to the club after a difficult time abroad and also attracted media interest through it.

After his first season, he got a new contract which was rightfully earned which i believe made him the highest paid player, he was a big part of our first season staying up, deserved all the plaudits he got, and i think at the stage he was a fans favorite and everyone was happy. 

He then began to have his 'moments' second season which is a running theme at all his clubs, even Roy said he didnt actually know what the matter was him, and it turned our Rubin Kazan were sniffing around (Petes words), a club who could no doubt offer him a lot more money than we did, nothing happened, he started playing again and he scored the unforgettable hat trick vs the Wolfs, at that stage i dont think he could of been any higher in fans thoughts, i personally felt his 2nd season was very inconsistent but again he played his part in us staying up.

3rd season, he was playing most weeks but as part of the club progressing he was no longer main man, we had an inform Long and Lukaku so he was played outwide, he still scored goals, was playing well, fans loved him, team was going well.

And then........ January happened, its been said a million times before so not worth going over it but he clearly wanted one last payday, QPR were spending for fun, he could of got himself a big fat dirty contract, probably his last major one and i think if he had said that was reasons, then although disappointed he would of gone with our blessings and good memories intact. Its what happened after and the embarrassment he caused that got my back up.

Even then, Chris Lepkowski said in his Mail column today / yesterday, Albion had never gave him permission to go but said he could in the summer, there was also even talk of a new contract and bridges were been built, however he threw another tantrum about how mistreated he was and that was that.

Albion can be a pain in the backside for things at times, but unfortunately Odemwingie is the sole reason he is despised by many on his departure, if he wanted to leave then fair enough, there are ways of doing it, but it was his actions which caused the hate.

Personally i am very respectful of the goals he scored and can never knock his playing achievements, but there are ways to conduct yourself and those around you and he messed up big style so nowadays to me his status is thanks for your efforts but you wont be remembered fondly in the future as a hero / favorite as say a Super Bob, Big Dave, Sneekes, McInnes, etc which you could well of been.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 17GD on September 04, 2013, 10:36:29 AM
You could just skirt passed this thread if you don't want to read comments.

I could, but I'm sick of seeing his name. I didn't like him when he played for us, now I'm happy he's gone and I assumed that was the end of it. I'm just not sure what else there is to be said that hasn't already been said over the past 9 months.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on September 04, 2013, 10:37:28 AM
I have to agree here. I know many Albion fans who bizarrely had never taken to him even before things went pear shaped. The same can be said for other players of a similar type. Koumas & Kamara spring to mind. Quality players who are very much hit or miss but on their day are matchwinners. I see Sessegnon falling into this catergory. Give the fans a grafter with little quality and they will hero worship them.


You cant please all the people all of the time
The majority of fans never questioned his ability with the ball.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 04, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
Finally confirmed on Official Site

http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/duo-depart-for-pastures-new-1033834.aspx

PETER Odemwingie has joined Barclays Premier League rivals Cardiff City for an undisclosed fee.

The striker had ten months remaining on his Hawthorns contract and his move to South Wales ends his three-year association with the Baggies.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: kc56wba on September 04, 2013, 11:02:57 AM

You cant please all the people all of the time
The majority of fans never questioned his ability with the ball.
What they did question was the ability with his mouth and the use of twitter.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 04, 2013, 11:15:29 AM
I could, but I'm sick of seeing his name. I didn't like him when he played for us, now I'm happy he's gone and I assumed that was the end of it. I'm just not sure what else there is to be said that hasn't already been said over the past 9 months.

I hear what you're saying GD & I agree with you to a certain extent, thing is Pete is a latter day mis-legend (made that up), a West Brom anti-hero if you like & as such some people (yes I'm looking at you Jacko) will continue to want to debate his contribution to what has been a very successful period of our recent past, bit sad that it all ended how it did but I don't have any ill feelings towards him, we move on! life really is too short for grudges.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: east-stand-nick on September 04, 2013, 10:02:08 PM
Jacko, your attempts to defend Odemwingie are admirable, if a little misguided at times. But to suggest that he never won over the fans is ridiculous to put it mildly.

After the hat-trick at Dingleland we all regarded him as a hero, myself included. His name was sung every single match. One of the best players we've had for decades. Defend him all you like, but don't criticise the fans for never taking to him - utter nonsense, sorry.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2013, 10:17:07 PM
Jacko, your attempts to defend Odemwingie are admirable, if a little misguided at times. But to suggest that he never won over the fans is ridiculous to put it mildly.

After the hat-trick at Dingleland we all regarded him as a hero, myself included. His name was sung every single match. One of the best players we've had for decades. Defend him all you like, but don't criticise the fans for never taking to him - utter nonsense, sorry.

Yet it's not nonsense is it mate more of an uncomfortable truth I would say, other people have gone along/agreed with my assertion, it isn't one lone voice as you suggest.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 04, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
Also he never quite won over the majority of the fans.

Do you really believe that or are you looking for some reactions?

You're willing to defend Odemwingie and I respect that despite not agreeing with it but this comment in particular is nonsense in my opinion. To suggest he never quite won over the fans is surely looking for reactions from other members. Ever since he scored his goal against Sunderland and his problems in Russia became known, he received nothing but our praise and full attention. Fans even paid to display a banner issuing nothing but 100% support. His song was chanted just as much as anybody else over the last year and a half, sometimes more. After his hat-trick against the Wolves he was in territory not many other Albion players had been before - he would have been loved forever, remembered widely as a legend, yet he threw that away himself - nothing of the fans doing and that is the real shame of this whole saga.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2013, 10:48:07 PM
Do you really believe that or are you looking for some reactions?

You're willing to defend Odemwingie and I respect that despite not agreeing with it but this comment in particular is nonsense in my opinion. To suggest he never quite won over the fans is surely looking for reactions from other members. Ever since he scored his goal against Sunderland and his problems in Russia became known, he received nothing but our praise and full attention. Fans even paid to display a banner issuing nothing but 100% support. His song was chanted just as much as anybody else over the last year and a half, sometimes more. After his hat-trick against the Wolves he was in territory not many other Albion players had been before - he would have been loved forever, remembered widely as a legend, yet he threw that away himself - nothing of the fans doing and that is the real shame of this whole saga.

I've been to virtually every game since PO signed. I heard crowd reactions, I heard people talking under the stand, I heard people talking in pubs before games and I have been active in Odemwingie threads on here. He has been labelled lazy, greedy, mercenary, overrated, childish and all this was before the January 2013 transfer window.  I believe what I have said, I don't post up on here looking for "reactions", yet I am accused of it more than I would like by people who don't disagree with my opinion, that's just as bad as shouting me down imo.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on September 04, 2013, 10:52:32 PM
I've been to virtually every game since PO signed. I heard crowd reactions, I heard people talking under the stand, I heard people talking in pubs before games and I have been active in Odemwingie threads on here. He has been labelled lazy, greedy, mercenary, overrated, childish and all this was before the January 2013 transfer window.  I believe what I have said, I don't post up on here looking for "reactions", yet I am accused of it more than I would like by people who don't disagree with my opinion, that's just as bad as shouting me down imo.

I've called him all those things at one point or another, it's because he was all of those things at some point. That doesn't take away from the fact I knew he was our most dangerous player, and match winner, when he was on song.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 04, 2013, 10:58:08 PM
I think jacko is right on this one, PO has done a lot more for us than certain other players yet their name gets sung more often and louder?
I've always said it felt an uneasy fit with no small number of our fans?
Really don't know why , maybe we are spoilt, maybe as we go up the leagues the glory hunters (experts ) attach themselves and feel the need to discredit to get a voice?

When all said and done , we fetched him on a long haul flight next day he scores on his dayboo :D, he scored the equaliser against them scumbags from b6, played rb, rw, cf against Chelsea all at the same time almost winning the match himself and then.....how can anybody ever forget that match at that 5hithole with that hattrick .
Good luck , god bless and please don't score against us.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2013, 10:58:15 PM
I've called him all those things at one point or another, it's because he was all of those things at some point. That doesn't take away from the fact I knew he was our most dangerous player, and match winner, when he was on song.

I'm not suggesting we didn't know his worth, I'm suggesting we didn't turn a blind eye to his limitations (mostly mental) whereas we do to (just for example) to Shane Long's glaring footballing limitations.

There were always undercurrents with Odemwingie among the fanbase.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 04, 2013, 11:18:12 PM
Jacko, the thread is Odemwingie, why bring Long into another topic, we know you don't like/ rate the bloke, we get the message.

Almost every topic has to involve either Brunt/ Pete (to be replaced by AN Other) in the one corner or Dorrans/ Long in the other.

I have also been to probably every game Pete played for us and have heard minor comments here and there, nothing more than that so maybe I have been in different pubs/ different parts of the grounds. Minor comments get aimed at every player we have, every player we have had and every player we will have, thats life. It was minor here and here until January, nothing more than that
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tucka9 on September 04, 2013, 11:20:39 PM
I tend to agree Odemwingie probably did get abused at times before all the wanting to leave stuff started, but if you have to name a player whose name was song the most in his first two years at the club it has to be Odemwingie?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2013, 11:27:52 PM
Jacko, the thread is Odemwingie, why bring Long into another topic, we know you don't like/ rate the bloke, we get the message.

Almost every topic has to involve either Brunt/ Pete (to be replaced by AN Other) in the one corner or Dorrans/ Long in the other.

I have also been to probably every game Pete played for us and have heard minor comments here and there, nothing more than that so maybe I have been in different pubs/ different parts of the grounds. Minor comments get aimed at every player we have, every player we have had and every player we will have, thats life. It was minor here and here until January, nothing more than that

You take exception to me comparing players at almost every turn. Long IS the archetypal fans favourite at Albion that is why I used him, irrespective of whether I rate him or not. Comparing players is an obvious way to make a point, as fans of the club we know all the players, whereas people maybe won't know a reference to something outside of the club for example in popular culture (there was a reference to Robbie Williams in another thread that made no sense (to me at least)) or another footballer from another club.

You say "nothing more than that" and I accept that is your opinion, I just happen to disagree with it. That is one big problem on here when you put on "nothing more than that" it reads as a statement of fact rather than an opinion, similarly when I say that "Odemwingie never completely won over the fans" it looks as though I am stating it as fact. It is purely my opinion, agreed with by two or three others in the last few posts, disagreed with by a few others in the last few posts.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 04, 2013, 11:30:38 PM
I tend to agree Odemwingie probably did get abused at times before all the wanting to leave stuff started, but if you have to name a player whose name was song the most in his first two years at the club it has to be Odemwingie?
More than mulumbu?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 04, 2013, 11:34:16 PM
You take exception to me comparing players at almost every turn. Long IS the archetypal fans favourite at Albion that is why I used him, irrespective of whether I rate him or not. Comparing players is an obvious way to make a point, as fans of the club we know all the players, whereas people maybe won't know a reference to something outside of the club for example in popular culture (there was a reference to Robbie Williams in another thread that made no sense (to me at least)) or another footballer from another club.

You say "nothing more than that" and I accept that is your opinion, I just happen to disagree with it. That is one big problem on here when you put on "nothing more than that" it reads as a statement of fact rather than an opinion, similarly when I say that "Odemwingie never completely won over the fans" it looks as though I am stating it as fact. It is purely my opinion, agreed with by two or three others in the last few posts, disagreed with by a few others in the last few posts.

No more a statement of fact than the posts you yourself put which also come across to folk as statements as fact where you give the impression you are right, the rest are wrong which you have just said is merely you giving your opinion. This forum is a mere minor percentage of Albion fans so could be argued that what is agreed/ disagreed by some means not a lot in the general scheme of things, just like what is said on the Express and Star website for example.

I don't take exception to anything I just find it difficult to understand why you have to bring certain players into topics for no reason other than to big up or put down. You can dress it up as comparing but we all know why you do it as we've read it often enough.

Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tucka9 on September 04, 2013, 11:34:42 PM
More than mulumbu?

I'd say home games more Mulumbu, but every away game in his first two years the "just can't get enough" song would go on for ages each game I seem to remember.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 04, 2013, 11:46:48 PM
No more a statement of fact than the posts you yourself put which also come across to folk as statements as fact where you give the impression you are right, the rest are wrong which you have just said is merely you giving your opinion. This forum is a mere minor percentage of Albion fans so could be argued that what is agreed/ disagreed by some means not a lot in the general scheme of things, just like what is said on the Express and Star website for example.

I don't take exception to anything I just find it difficult to understand why you have to bring certain players into topics for no reason other than to big up or put down. You can dress it up as comparing but we all know why you do it as we've read it often enough.

I said that!!!  :-X

I'm glad you "know" why I do things, I'll ask you if I'm ever unsure...
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 04, 2013, 11:49:39 PM
I said that!!!  :-X

I'm glad you "know" why I do things, I'll ask you if I'm ever unsure...

I know you said it  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: geoff on September 13, 2013, 06:00:00 PM


Odemwingie Claims Cardiff City Better Than WBA Vital Football - Cardiff City 17:51

http://www.cardiff.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=332117
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Jack Russell on September 13, 2013, 06:25:07 PM

Odemwingie Claims Cardiff City Better Than WBA Vital Football - Cardiff City 17:51

http://www.cardiff.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=332117



is he having a laugh.The atmosphere will be spicy for him when Barrrdiff come to the Hawthorns
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 13, 2013, 06:36:58 PM

Odemwingie Claims Cardiff City Better Than WBA Vital Football - Cardiff City 17:51

http://www.cardiff.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=332117

Did anyone really expect anything less? predictable Pete, just predictable  :-[
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on September 13, 2013, 06:42:42 PM
I have no time for him any more, but to be fair, he was probably asked out right, does he think Cardiff are a stronger team. Journo's ask leading questions all the time and then only publish the question, so it looks like a brash statement.

The guy is a d**k, but he's lead my the nose and isn't very bright about it.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: maximus on September 13, 2013, 06:43:03 PM
got his move to a new club and yet still finds the time to mention the albion.....
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 13, 2013, 10:12:25 PM
For someone so desperate to leave he certainly seems to want to talk about us a lot.

He's fallen out with every club and manager he's played for - it's like a bloke who's followed through complaining that every room he goes into smells of pooh.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on September 13, 2013, 10:28:26 PM
Guardian article..... Albion really don't come off well here....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/13/peter-odemwinge-fallout-west-bromwich-albion
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 13, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Whole worlds against him, poor bloke.  ::)
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 13, 2013, 10:45:59 PM
Guardian article..... Albion really don't come off well here....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/13/peter-odemwinge-fallout-west-bromwich-albion

Oh well, we'll live.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dangerman on September 13, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
He did it at his previous club, he did it here and he'll do it again.

The guys a clown and it's about time we forgot about him.

No doubt this'll all come back up when we play Cardiff.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: royhan on September 13, 2013, 10:55:35 PM
It's always good to hear both sides of any story. I'd like Dean Keily to explain to fans if he had a vendetta against Odemwingie, as the player seems to imply. He doesn't come out too well in this article but, as I say, there are always two sides to any story.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 13, 2013, 11:01:33 PM
It's always good to hear both sides of any story. I'd like Dean Keily to explain to fans if he had a vendetta against Odemwingie, as the player seems to imply. He doesn't come out too well in this article but, as I say, there are always two sides to any story.

He doesn't have to lower him to the level of explaining himself and validating this idiot's comments.

Kiely has been here 7 years now,  is extremely professional and has now coached under three different managers/head coaches and stayed at Charlton for over 10 years.

Odemwingie has fell out with everyone he's ever played for and never stayed anywhere for long. The proof in the pudding are his regular exclusions from the national side - the one team he can't transfer from.

He fell out with...

Peace
Roy
Kiely
Ashworth
Clarke
"a few players"
the club doctor


The only common denominator here is him.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Foster#1 on September 13, 2013, 11:21:36 PM
Where's all the Kiely talk come from?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Pedro on September 13, 2013, 11:51:03 PM
Draw a line under it! He has moved on! This is the albion! I have no interest in him, another player who has gone on to what he thinks are better things. Supporting this club is in your blood, personally I don't care whether we are premiership or league 2. The club is bigger than the player the manager or the chairman. Lets get on with the rest of the season! Its going to be a ride and a half!! Enjoy it and forget this bloke, its history! I remember the Buckley days and the look on Sneekes face first game out! Enjoy the good times whilst they are here! Keep the faith! :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Andio on September 14, 2013, 12:49:30 AM
Where's all the Kiely talk come from?

In this article mate:

Guardian article..... Albion really don't come off well here....

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/13/peter-odemwinge-fallout-west-bromwich-albion

Poor Peter, he could have been a legend here but screwed up big time.

No coincidence he has fell out with every club he has played for.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Legend on September 14, 2013, 01:13:57 AM
Him and Bellamy in the same dressing room could be interesting.  :o
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 14, 2013, 01:15:18 AM
Still sorry he has left... We look appalling in this article, but hey ho let's batten down the hatches and blame it all on Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on September 14, 2013, 02:58:19 AM
Loved watching him play for the Stripes for those first two season BUT he just went too far and shamed the Club regardless of fallouts (show me any Club that all the players TRUTHFULLY get on and I'll show you they are liars).
He was just so unprofessional in January and wanting to join and big-up the tinpot Club that is QPR over us was just a slap in the face to all the fans that backed him.
Even after January, most of us would be willing to forgive (though not forget) IF he did it on the pitch and came back into the fold.
However, it became more and more obvious that he couldn't control himself and, by the time the Norwich debacle came around, no many of us there that afternoon were in any mood to let him off the hook before he cleared off and I, along with most let him have it every time he came near us for that last , late cameo - it helped me come to terms that the PO chapter was finally over...........
He will be great for Cardiff for the coming season and will be worth every penny if he helps them survive. Then will be the testing time as he'll get fed up and start his antics again but by that time his top flight career will be ALL but over so I suppose no one will really care !
The Albion need to move on and hopefully any other rifts in the dressing room have been quelled for the small of PO departing.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: AlbionBest on September 14, 2013, 03:03:05 AM
Still sorry he has left... We look appalling in this article, but hey ho let's batten down the hatches and blame it all on Odemwingie.

No doubt some truth but very much PO spin.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Standaman on September 14, 2013, 06:49:40 AM
I keep promising myself that I will not write another word about him and then I seem to keep getting dragged back in. Ultimately players and coaches come and go they can do it with good grace or not as the case maybe. We are never going to get the unvarnished truth and certainly Odemwingie will always paint himself as the victim but as others have pointed it out he has a track record in that regard. I will watch his progress at Cardiff with interest I would bet on him not getting to the end of his contract without incident or controversy.
 
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 14, 2013, 06:50:31 AM
There will of course be those who lap up anything anti albion.

Bizzarre.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: tuamigos on September 14, 2013, 07:01:21 AM
Just get on with your life Pete.
I hope Reids fit when we're due to play Cardiff
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: liverbaggie on September 14, 2013, 07:15:56 AM
Please stop now,anything to do with the whinged. Is old news his latest comments just prove what we all know,the manhas got no class!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on September 14, 2013, 08:20:25 AM
Please stop now,anything to do with the whinged. Is old news his latest comments just prove what we all know,the manhas got no class!

If that report is any where near true, neither have some of the staff still employed by the club. We will never now the full truth lets just move on
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 14, 2013, 08:43:34 AM
He doesn't have to lower him to the level of explaining himself and validating this idiot's comments.

Kiely has been here 7 years now,  is extremely professional and has now coached under three different managers/head coaches and stayed at Charlton for over 10 years.

Odemwingie has fell out with everyone he's ever played for and never stayed anywhere for long. The proof in the pudding are his regular exclusions from the national side - the one team he can't transfer from.

He fell out with...

Peace
Roy
Kiely
Ashworth
Clarke
"a few players"
the club doctor


The only common denominator here is him.
But many expected Odemwingie too ??

Just because kiely has been he 7 years it doesn't mean he is always professional/a nice person/ beyond reproach?
My thoughts are that pete gave us much more in 3 than he did in 7 .

He may have fell out with "a few players"most notably Steven (sick note) Reid, again pete has offered more than him,  this happens at most clubs, he couldn't have been that disliked or he wouldn't have been at Longs wedding?

Some just wont accept that EVERY story has 2 sides?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: zippyandbungle on September 14, 2013, 08:45:09 AM
Just get on with your life Pete.
I hope Reids fit when we're due to play Cardiff
One of these has more chance than the other  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: baggie96 on September 14, 2013, 09:07:50 AM
Can't forgive him for these comments, out of everything that has came out from odemwingie it seems like it was him in the wrong... His second twitter outburst when the club were offering him a new deal. These comments in the guardian are disgusting from. Has sessegnon came out and said how much he disliked the di canio regime? Has any player publicly outed coaches that try didn't like? When Cardiff come to the hawthorns I except chants of deano deano deano! Make his afternoon living hell as we all know his personality would crumble!
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbako on September 14, 2013, 09:14:12 AM
Are we really still talking about this ****. The man is an embarrassment and I for one, am extremely happy he'll never get a chance to wear the blue and white stripes. Good riddance.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: GrGr on September 14, 2013, 11:16:19 AM
Are we really still talking about this ****. The man is an embarrassment and I for one, am extremely happy he'll never get a chance to wear the blue and white stripes. Good riddance.

Feel exactly the same. Didn't even bother to read the Guardian interview.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: wbasoprano on September 14, 2013, 11:35:33 AM
It adds spice to the Cardiff game, so I'm all for him running his mouth again.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on September 14, 2013, 12:02:39 PM
Odemwingie is still intent on damaging this club.

The bloke is a moron who should be made to shut up...lets see how brave he is when Cardiff come to the Hawthorns.

I sense one of those injuries re-appearing.

Hes a bloke who has moaned about the treatment he has received at every club hes been at so is he right or are the clubs right I know which one I now believe.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: garry on September 14, 2013, 12:33:14 PM
As arrogant as ever.
Sound like JP stitched him up good and proper! :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Sessegod on September 14, 2013, 12:57:23 PM
he's poison and there is no coincidence that our form tailed off when he started kicking off and split the dressing room.

there is no limit to who he's going to blame for being a complete bell.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: slugga1 on September 14, 2013, 02:34:47 PM
Ofcourse every story has sides but I really do think that pete will always believe his own hype and need to have the last word no matter what ( almost like a control thing).
I'm sure reid and dean both had enough of his behaviour and had the balls to say so, if not for anything but the morale in the dressing room. Good for them too the mans a total tool who thinks he is bigger than the team in everywhere he has been. I'm looking forward to seeing how his behaviour changes next season..no doubt he'll be causing some drama by then lol!  Good point someone made about Bellamy too, I can't see him putting up with the wingey one for too long. I would say I wish him well but for all the good he has done for the club his behaviour over the last year has been totally and utterly unacceptable.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Trigger on September 14, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
Who cares about him, he never even came off the bench for Cardiff today!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on September 15, 2013, 12:40:56 PM
It seems from all this that Odemwingie has a problem with listening to things he doesn't want to hear or fit in with this view.

It seems like people in authority he has problems with....god help when he upsets Bellamy.
Title: Peter "the truth" Odemwingie
Post by: 63Brummie on September 16, 2013, 09:34:34 AM
A very enlightening interview - Peter's departure owes a lot to a lack of professionalism on all sides :-X

Enjoy..

Peter Odemwingie: 'My fall-out at West Brom was with a few people'The Cardiff City striker is happy to put his troubled time at The Hawthorns behind him
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Stuart James The Guardian, Friday 13 September 2013 21.04 BST 
Peter Odemwingie feels free after his move from West Bromwich Albion to Cardiff City. Photograph: Gareth Phillips for the Guardian
The elevator doors at the hotel slide open and Peter Odemwingie emerges with a spring in his step. He is on good form, laughing about spending a few nights with his wife and young son in the penthouse suite where Madonna once stayed and expressing his surprise that he has seen so little rain since arriving in south Wales. It is his new club, though, that has done most to put a smile back on his face. "I'm like a bird that has been let out of the cage," Odemwingie says.

Freedom came in the form of a £2.25m transfer to Cardiff City at the beginning of last week, bringing an end to a West Bromwich Albion career that started so promisingly three years ago but ended in such bitter acrimony. The deal went through a few minutes before the 11pm transfer window deadline, after Odemwingie agreed to sign the compromise agreement that Albion insisted was in place before releasing his registration.

The relationship between the two parties had long broken down and it is a measure of how bad things had become that a couple of weeks before the window closed Odemwingie served notice to terminate his contract citing constructive dismissal. He claimed he had been alienated from the first team, excluded from the pre-season tour, made to train on his own for a week on two separate occasions and forced to change in a private dressing room. Albion appealed.

"What the chairman [Jeremy Peace] did was very clever," Odemwingie says. "At the beginning of the transfer window he told me he wants to keep me but he needs to speak with the manager. I waited for three weeks. Nothing. He said he was on holiday, he had just got back. He kept saying: 'Tomorrow, tomorrow I'll speak to the coach [Steve Clarke].'

"I phoned the coach myself. I said: 'Coach, the chairman said he wants to keep me, I thought you said I can be sold, we have agreed there is no way back for me.' [Clarke] said he hasn't talked to the chairman and has only spoken to Richard [Garlick, the sporting director].

"They were playing a game to win time. The chairman didn't turn up again and then they said: 'The chairman will call you in the next 24 hours.' I was waiting with my phone. After that I said: 'Enough is enough.' I phoned the lawyers. We sought counsel's opinion, I had a big chance for constructive dismissal. They said: 'The relationship has broken down, you can put in a notice of termination,' so I did that on 16 August and gave them the reasons. On 30 August they appealed. A Premier League panel was set up, we were just waiting on a date."

For Odemwingie, the relief that everything has now been put to bed is mixed with a desire to tell his side of the story. An intelligent and articulate man, Odemwingie accepts that he has made mistakes but he says that he was not alone. He is, though, quick to stress that he does not want to be disrespectful to Albion or tar everyone at the club with the same brush. "The last six months spoilt a lot but it can't spoil everything," the Nigeria international says. "I can't have anything against the whole club when my fallout was with a few people."

When charting how things started to unravel at Albion, Odemwingie goes back to the moment in November 2011, when Roy Hodgson, the then head coach, publicly questioned his willingness to play through the pain barrier. Odemwingie saw those remarks as a stain on his character. He had a knee injury at the time – he posted a photo on Twitter to prove that was the case – and says he had agreed to cortisone injections on numerous occasions to get through games.

"I'm aware of the damage it can do and that it doesn't let you do full healing, but I came to England, I wanted to show everything I have got and I knew the team was normally one that could get relegated, so I said to myself: 'Anything it takes I'll give it,' and that's why it was very painful to take when Roy said it. But it was not only Roy, I felt it from the so-called hierarchy, that they were trying to put me under added pressure.

"My response was: 'Let me get well and I'm going to show it on the pitch when I'm fit.' I came back and started scoring and assisting goals, player of the month in February, scored the winner at Liverpool. But during that same season personal issues kicked in with a few team-mates and with one member of staff, Dean Kiely. He was nasty. We didn't say good morning for one and a half years. I don't want to have that in my life. Nevertheless, I always stayed professional – I want to play. Then Steve [Clarke] came and my feeling changed from a player that the manager was so desperate to have."

By the time January came around, Odemwingie wanted out and on the final day of the month he was confident he was about to become a Queens Park Rangers player. After meeting Dan Ashworth, the sporting director, and Garlick, who was about to take over in that role, Odemwingie was "100% sure the deal was happening. I said my goodbyes to everyone, even those who were not nice to me, I hugged it out before leaving."

The rest has gone down in deadline-day history. With the clock ticking down, players often drive within close proximity of a club before permission is granted – Gareth Barry admitted that he did exactly that last week with Everton – but Odemwingie's mistake was to advertise his presence by parking up outside Loftus Road and giving a live television interview at a time when Albion had not reached an agreement with QPR.

It was, the 32-year-old admits, an error of judgement, although he insists that he was not trying to force the deal through. He says he "would not even move a foot from Birmingham to London" if he had known it was crucial that Junior Hoilett moved in the opposite direction. He also feels that he was let down by his agents at the time.

After two hours sleep, Odemwingie drove into Albion's training ground. "On the morning of 1 February, Dan Ashworth apologised to me in front of Steve Clarke and Richard. He said: 'Peter, if I gave you the impression the deal was done, I'm sorry. Here is my phone with calls to Canada. I tried for it to happen.' I'm not going to claim I had written permission [to speak to QPR] because I didn't. But we were this close," Odemwingie says, holding his thumb and forefinger close together.

What Odemwingie did not take kindly to was Clarke's description of his actions. "The manager comes out and says it was 'total lunacy' [to drive to QPR]. In the country where I come from, with these kind of words, we don't take them lightly. The word lunacy cannot be associated with me. I am an absolutely normal person. 'Total lunacy' means you want to say that out of the blue I just appeared there without discussing [anything]."

A week later Albion issued a statement in which Odemwingie apologised for his actions and the club confirmed he had been disciplined and would resume full training with the first team and be available for selection. But in the wake of a goalless draw at Stoke in March, Odemwingie's patience snapped. He was aggrieved that he had been on the bench for a fourth match in succession and, not for the first time, took to Twitter to vent his anger. "Maybe I shouldn't have done it," says Odemwingie, when asked whether he regrets his tweets. "But nobody wanted to move on from what happened."

He went on to make three more appearances from the bench, the last of which was in the 4-0 defeat at Carrow Road in the penultimate game. "Everybody was unhappy and the manager asked everyone in the dressing room if anyone has anything to say. It was quiet. Then his assistant, Kevin Keen, spoke and blasted the team for a very poor performance.

"Then [Keen] finished. 'Anyone else?' There was nothing and then I said: 'Yeah, I want to say something.' I said: 'I'm not sure if I'll have an opportunity again to speak with my team-mates, because I will probably be sold this summer. I want to apologise to Steve for, in his first year as a coach, having to deal with more issues outside of football than he should. But when he took over the job he knew what issues we have in the group and those were reasons why I wanted to leave.'

"And then I just asked a few players why I was the only one they used specific language to in situations and behaved in a way only to me. I only asked. After the players, I said to the doctor: 'You know me very well, my character and my dedication to football, I'm not a prima donna, you inject me all the time. You were very wrong to let Roy say [what he did about me].' And I said to the goalkeeper trainer, Dean: 'I don't know what your problem was since the beginning of me being in this club.' I said if it was the same words and actions towards everyone, no problem. But if it's only towards me, it's personal."

Albion responded by barring Odemwingie from training with the rest of the first-team players in the final week of the campaign and that treatment continued when he returned for pre-season. "The first day I came back, Richard Garlick said: 'There is a special dressing room, a personal dressing room only for you.'"

With no locker to clear, Odemwingie's exit was much more low-key the second time around and he was not about to repeat the mistake he made with QPR. "My agent told me they have the agreement, they are allowed to speak to you, you can come for a medical. I told him: 'Listen, until I have it from West Brom, I'm not going anywhere.'"

It is hard to escape the feeling that everyone has lost out. Odemwingie could have been an Albion legend – he scored 30 Premier League goals in 87 appearances, including a hat-trick against Wolves in a memorable 5-1 win at Molineux in February 2012 – and the club could badly do with the striker who was a breath of fresh air when he arrived from Lokomotiv Moscow.

Odemwingie pauses for a long time when asked how he thinks the public perceive him. "Stubborn maybe," he says. "But you know what, I don't think you can damage a reputation so fast, because until January, for West Brom fans and for the league, I was the perfect person, I like to speak to people, I'm not selfish. I have a temper and lost it maybe on Twitter but it piled up on me and it was too much. The issues were unresolved."

At Cardiff, he hopes to put everything behind him. "I realise that it is a lot of pressure, because I have to show I didn't lose it after six months. But I'm going to be lighter in the head," says Odemwingie, who claims he has not looked at the date of the Albion fixtures. "I'm still a good player for a Premier League club and a good man to have in the club."

Highs, lows and rows
Early years Born 15 July 1981 to Nigerian parents but raised in Russia. A member of the CSKA Moscow youth team, Odemwingie made his big breakthrough at Lille, for whom he scored 23 goals in 75 appearances

Move to Lokomotiv Odemwingie signed for Lokomotiv Moscow for £9m in 2007 but was subject to racist abuse by supporters. He also won a silver medal at the 2008 Beijing Olympics with Nigeria

Move to England Odemwingie left Russia for the Midlands in 2010, a move greeted by Lokomotiv's racist element with a banner with a banana saying 'Thanks West Brom'. He scored 30 goals in 87 appearances for the Baggies and won the Premier League's player of the month award three times

Attempted QPR move In January 2013 Odemwingie tried to leave West Brom, attacking the club on Twitter and travelling to QPR for a move he believed was agreed. But no deal had materialised. He failed to make another appearance and signed for Cardiff City for £2.25m this month
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 16, 2013, 09:37:23 AM
Only a couple of days behind the rest of the forum then  :D
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 16, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
one of the most arrogant footballers.I hope he gets a hostile reception on his return
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: 63Brummie on September 16, 2013, 10:40:34 AM
Only a couple of days behind the rest of the forum then  :D
Sorry mate..
Some time ago I moved to the dark side aka Mill Hill and have thus been out of the loop ;D :-[ :-[
In all seriousness though, I'd really liked for all parties to have worked it out...but cest la vie eh?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: mulliganstired on September 16, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
It does sound like our own multilayered hierarchy hasn't helped with communication here.  I'm no expert in "cultural dissonance" but while I can accept that a casual British reference to "total lunacy" could be understood differently by a Nigerian, I suspect he's overegging that one a bit.

I posted a while ago that I hope the club just maintains a dignified silence whatever really happened, let the dead past bury its dead.

All a great shame.


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Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: John Rest on September 21, 2013, 09:10:53 PM
He was a goalscorer at the top level.  After a cracking season he was shuffled to the side for Long and laterly for a loan signing who didn't belong to the club.

He's no saint for sure, he's perhaps troublesome, but I think putting his nose out of joint, after a brilliant season, with the signing of Long as the main man, was perhaps a catalyst to problems.  Also, freezing him out for a loan player who had no future with the club maybe didn't help matters either.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: Dudleylad on September 21, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
So are you suggesting that clubs should stand still just to avoid upsetting Odemwingie.

Every club hes been at they have signed other forwards to challenge him and when they do he does what he did here.

Also hes constantly moaning about playing wide however when he signed for us he said that was his best position?
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on September 21, 2013, 09:20:51 PM
Any chance of locking this down Mods #he'sgone
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: John Rest on September 21, 2013, 09:25:54 PM
So are you suggesting that clubs should stand still just to avoid upsetting Odemwingie.

Every club hes been at they have signed other forwards to challenge him and when they do he does what he did here.

Also hes constantly moaning about playing wide however when he signed for us he said that was his best position?

Not really, it's quite possible he'd have been troublesome no matter what we did.

After such a cracking season though, I did feel it a little unfair perhaps to shunt him out of position so quickly.

Still, he's gone now. I'm just concerned about us having a goalscorer, it was a big reason for our failings before this current stretch in the top flight.
Title: Re: Peter Odemwingie Joins Cardiff City
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 21, 2013, 11:13:41 PM
Any chance of locking this down Mods #he'sgone

Consider it done