Author Topic: Tony Pulis (Read 5165100 times)

johnnyg · « **Reply #750 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:21:16 PM »

Are we being spooked by the shocker against Spurs, or do i detect the first minor rumblings of discontent on here?
We all know he needs time, but if this is how Pulis intends to go, this is going to be damn hard to get used to.

Astle1968 · « **Reply #751 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:24:16 PM »

I've seen this mentioned briefly but these comments from Pulis are amazing

West Brom boss Tony Pulis took "some responsibility" for the 3-0 defeat by Tottenham, saying he was distracted by the closure of the transfer window
A Christian Eriksen free-kick and Harry Kane's double gave Spurs victory against a lacklustre Baggies side.
Pulis said he had been "working really hard" to try and bring players in ahead of Monday's transfer deadline.
"I have to look at myself and say 'have I given it as much as I could have given it this week?'" he added.
"Or have there been other things that have pulled me away from the most important thing - getting the players prepared for a game on Saturday?"
Defeat was West Brom's first in five matches under Pulis and he acknowledged he was "part of what happened".

If thats true and he's not just providing a soundbite its verging on gross negligence. I've said before I don't want Pulis in charge of bringing players in, partly because his record is poor and partly because I like to model we had in place. Obviously the results the last 2 years have been woeful in terms of player recruitment but I still think it's a case of right model wrong personel.

caravanc58 · « **Reply #752 on:** February 01, 2015, 10:56:15 PM »

Quote from: elkiellis on February 01, 2015, 07:54:51 PM

if I was peace I wouldn't trust him in the transfer market,are we going to bring in a better full back than poco,or a better winger than sess,off course not and this joker wont play them,lescott at fullback after brum game is a disgraceful decision,he is our best centre half

according to the mirror lescott wants talks with pulis about playing at lb. he doesn't like it.

GrGr · « **Reply #753 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:03:43 PM »

Quote from: johnnyg on February 01, 2015, 10:21:16 PM

Are we being spooked by the shocker against Spurs, or do i detect the first minor rumblings of discontent on here?
We all know he needs time, but if this is how Pulis intends to go, this is going to be damn hard to get used to.

We all know Pulis needs time. However there are mistakes and then there are mistakes. Playing Lescott at left back is just mind boggling really and a lot of fans heads imploded over that one.

maccbaggie · « **Reply #754 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:05:49 PM »

Quote from: caravanc58 on February 01, 2015, 10:56:15 PM

according to the mirror lescott wants talks with pulis about playing at lb. he doesn't like it.

Second player gone public about being unhappy with Pulis' methods. Interesting.

Shows just how ridiculous the situation is that not only we can see he should be in the centre, but so does he. Pulis needs to bite the bullet and accept that, just because Pocognoli is foreign, doesn't mean he's not a good defender.

Strodder · « **Reply #755 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:37:02 PM »

Quote from: maccbaggie on February 01, 2015, 11:05:49 PM

Second player gone public about being unhappy with Pulis' methods. Interesting.

Shows just how ridiculous the situation is that not only we can see he should be in the centre, but so does he. Pulis needs to bite the bullet and accept that, just because Pocognoli is foreign, doesn't mean he's not a good defender.

I think this highlighting a couple of problems at the club. Firstly players need to do what the head coach tells them to. Prior to Pulis, fans were crying out a strong leader to "sort out" the players and give them a kick up the backside. Well, maybe he is so we can't can't complain if the players don't like it. There will be some fall out along the way with Pulis no doubt. Secondly we cannot continue to have players grumbling in public anymore it's unprofessional and damaging. This is not to say I can understand Lescott at LB, it is very odd and the only reason I can think if is that it is a way of getting some more height in the team but even so...maybe he wanted to see Dawson in the league??? Anyone?

BB74 · « **Reply #756 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:39:53 PM »

Think I fancy a tenner on Pulis as next Manager to leave a Premier League side.

If we have a disastrous window tomorrow then he will resign IMO

overseas baggie · « **Reply #757 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:42:58 PM »

Quote from: Strodder on February 01, 2015, 11:37:02 PM

I think this highlighting a couple of problems at the club. Firstly players need to do what the head coach tells them to. Prior to Pulis, fans were crying out a strong leader to "sort out" the players and give them a kick up the backside. Well, maybe he is so we can't can't complain if the players don't like it. There will be some fall out along the way with Pulis no doubt. Secondly we cannot continue to have players grumbling in public anymore it's unprofessional and damaging. This is not to say I can understand Lescott at LB, it is very odd and the only reason I can think if is that it is a way of getting some more height in the team but even so...maybe he wanted to see Dawson in the league??? Anyone?

I think Poc is going to be sold tomorrow and TP didn't want that jeopardised by injury on Saturday, and so Lescott at left back was the most obvious stop-gap (although I'd have opted for Baird but I think he's quite possibly going to be sold tomorrow as well!).

Droitwich Baggie · « **Reply #758 on:** February 01, 2015, 11:47:16 PM »

As I have previously said...He is not Corberan.
He has to learn as well.
We need someone in the mould of Hodgeson, who comes in...sees what we have and changes it to suit.

graka · « **Reply #759 on:** February 02, 2015, 07:22:42 AM »

seems bizarre to have an international full back sat on the bench whilst playing baird there. even more shocking is playing your best centre half there infront of both of them. shocking decision.

Baggies54 · « **Reply #760 on:** February 02, 2015, 08:09:46 AM »

Strange thing is the back four didn't need tampering with at all, Wisdom, McAuley, Lescott, Pocognoli are nearly as good as any back four in the league. Back four subs speak for themselves

Strength and pace in the midfield is what's needed most, one of the fastest men in the club is sat on the bench or left out altogether is a right midfielder and right sided defender...Gamboa.

With Yacob playing just in front of the back four breaking up play and making his usual short passes to link up play to Gamboa (right side) and Varela left side with Samaras playing just behind the pace of Ideye and Berahino as strikers.

I feel this would give us goal scorers in abundance and we would not be in the mess we are now.

tuamigos · « **Reply #761 on:** February 02, 2015, 08:40:12 AM »

Quote from: Baggies54 on February 02, 2015, 08:09:46 AM

Strange thing is the back four didn't need tampering with at all, Wisdom, McAuley, Lescott, Pocognoli are nearly as good as any back four in the league. Back four subs speak for themselves

Strength and pace in the midfield is what's needed most, one of the fastest men in the club is sat on the bench or left out altogether is a right midfielder and right sided defender...Gamboa.

With Yacob playing just in front of the back four breaking up play and making his usual short passes to link up play to Gamboa (right side) and Varela left side with Samaras playing just behind the pace of Ideye and Berahino as strikers.

I feel this would give us goal scorers in abundance and we would not be in the mess we are now.

When you mentioned Samras was when your argument lost ccredibility for me.
The bloke looked uninterested and devoid of commitment, another one of our shambolic recruitment policy.

seteefeet · « **Reply #762 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:22:28 AM »

Quote from: BB74 on February 01, 2015, 11:39:53 PM

Think I fancy a tenner on Pulis as next Manager to leave a Premier League side.

If we have a disastrous window tomorrow then he will resign IMO

His credibility would be destroyed if he did and rightly so. Everyone in football knows how we operate with regard to transfers so it will not be a shock to him. He has made noises about it being his most difficult transfer window but I think this is just something to fall back on should he fail to keep us up.
He has had a great start, but got it completely wrong against Spurs, who, let's face it are more than capable of beating us if we put out a decent team and get a decent performance (we did neither on Saturday). He has accepted 'partial' responsibility for the manner of the defeat and admitted he has been distracted by the window.
I think we will see a few ins and outs today and then tomorrow morning the survival effort will start in earnest with everyone who's left fully focussed.

albion59 · « **Reply #763 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:24:36 AM »

Not going to knock pulis or anything he as done yet, he us our head coach and we have got to get behind, but i said to my mates at the game on Saturday that it just doesn't look right seeing pulis in our dug out wearing all the Albion gear, can't explain why,just it doesn't look right!!

WBAinDEVON · « **Reply #764 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:26:19 AM »

Most likely throwing not only his toys but his cap too this time tomorrow

robnewbold · « **Reply #765 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:30:13 AM »

TP is not going anywhere. If he throws his toys out of the pram again, he would be unemployable. He realised the Lescott move was a disaster and is covering his mistake by blaming lack of focus on the transfer window.

We are bound to loose some games, there are three poorer teams then us in this league, we should stop moaning and start Supporting....or have we forgotten how to do that?

WBAinDEVON · « **Reply #766 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:32:20 AM »

Quote from: robnewbold on February 02, 2015, 09:30:13 AM

TP is not going anywhere. If he throws his toys out of the pram again, he would be unemployable. He realised the Lescott move was a disaster and is covering his mistake by blaming lack of focus on the transfer window.

We are bound to loose some games, there are three poorer teams then us in this league, we should stop moaning and start Supporting....or have we forgotten how to do that?

I didnt say hes going anywhere, just a frosty relationship with JP for a while

tuamigos · « **Reply #767 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:34:38 AM »

Quote from: robnewbold on February 02, 2015, 09:30:13 AM

TP is not going anywhere. If he throws his toys out of the pram again, he would be unemployable. He realised the Lescott move was a disaster and is covering his mistake by blaming lack of focus on the transfer window.

We are bound to loose some games, there are three poorer teams then us in this league, we should stop moaning and start Supporting....or have we forgotten how to do that?

It's a two way street.
Give us something to support!

WBAinDEVON · « **Reply #768 on:** February 02, 2015, 09:35:50 AM »

and they certainly didnt give us that on the field of play Saturday

Baggies54 · « **Reply #769 on:** February 02, 2015, 10:43:42 AM »

Quote from: tuamigos on February 02, 2015, 08:40:12 AM

When you mentioned Samras was when your argument lost ccredibility for me.
The bloke looked uninterested and devoid of commitment, another one of our shambolic recruitment policy.

Samaras' last two games he was quite good only twice lost the ball tracked back and won it back again, he was astute enough to see Berahino was offside and played the through ball for Brunt to run onto, yes. I know it was only Gateshead but the pass had to be made. He has good ball retention and can pick passes far better than Brunty, Morrison or Gardner and don't even start me on Dorrans(

).

Samaras is only my personal opinion it could have been Blanco or someone else if they won their chance to do it.

When Pulis availed himself at half time in the West Ham match I thought he had something I liked but then he rips the team to pieces my opinion is he is a control freak and will really mess the Baggies up for the next man who takes the reins.

SmethDan · « **Reply #770 on:** February 02, 2015, 12:58:11 PM »

To those saying Pulis would be unemployable if he walked out. You are forgetting that this is the mad and crazy world of planet football.

He would probably walk into a new job by the end of the week, if he were not to be placed on 'gardening leave' following his resignation being rejected by Jeremy Peace. Unless of course there was a healthy wedge of compensation from any prospective future employer to ease his departure.

Rightly or wrongly he is a very employable manager with a reputation for getting the job done by hook or by crook.
I would imagine there would be chairmen tripping over themselves to employ him.

BB74 · « **Reply #771 on:** February 02, 2015, 01:01:46 PM »

51/1 for Pulis as next Manager to go.

Time to put a fiver on.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/next-manager-to-leave-post

SmethDan · « **Reply #772 on:** February 02, 2015, 01:16:18 PM »

Odds have dropped to 40/1 with several bookies now.

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Albionic · « **Reply #773 on:** February 02, 2015, 01:23:32 PM »

He'll be at Hull sooner than we think (IMO).

Why do I say that?
1. start with the premis that JP is a fan as much as a bean counter and has been watching the preformances
2. TP came in on the basis that he wants FULL responsibility for all things "football" including player recruitment.

JP would not have relinquished this control easily, now in his first window, he is admitting to getting distracted and taking his eye off the prime target, ie Winning points. Now if I was JP the fan and bean-counter, I would be questioning a few things
a) Getting rid of players without assessing them (as bad as buying from videos??)
b) Playing best player out of position
c) leaving 2 specialists on bench when "accommodating" said best player out of position
d) upsetting best (& most highly paid) player to extent he goes public on his concerns
e) moving left back to bench following 2 clean sheets.
f) playing best forward player and clubs most valuable asset out of position
g) playing a loanee when an international is either on bench or left out completely.
h) leaving only flair player out when side is not creating any semblence of a creativity in front of goal
i) Continuing to play a clearly out of form captain.

Now maybe Poc, Gamboa are injured and Wisdom is contractually required to play if fit. If so TP can easily explain those issues, the rest, I would expect JP to be "mildly interested in" and I doubt TP will be best pleased to be questioned over... Hence a major blow up is imminent in my opinion.

Lloydy · « **Reply #774 on:** February 02, 2015, 04:45:54 PM »

Quote from: tuamigos on February 02, 2015, 09:34:38 AM

It's a two way street.
Give us something to support!

Like a cup run and five games unbeaten before losing to a top six team who have spent a fortune assembling their team?

This knee jerk reaction to one defeat is absolutely pathetic. Time to judge is at the end of the season and even then it's all about results, not performances.

As for the moans about Lescott at left back, did he not win a title playing there for Manchester City? All of this because fans' favourite Pocognoli who jumps into tackles and beats his chest on the pitch has been dropped, despite not actually being that good. Paul Robinson all over again.