[boinging_along]

That's why they had a good balance/chemistry. They understood what each other could and not could do. I do feel that due to Fulhams very athletic squad however they would get over run next Saturday though.

Yeah, Fulham will be tough and if we are all fully fit ( and don't switch to 3 in the middle), I'd go with Molumby and Mowatt as my first choice.  Molumby has shown how we need legs in the middle and Mowatt offers more than Livermore.  I'd go Livermore ahead of Snodgrass though.

[gazberg]

Yeah, Fulham will be tough and if we are all fully fit ( and don't switch to 3 in the middle), I'd go with Molumby and Mowatt as my first choice.  Molumby has shown how we need legs in the middle and Mowatt offers more than Livermore.  I'd go Livermore ahead of Snodgrass though.

I'd agree with the first choice pairing of Mowatt and Moloumby for sure. I can't see us putting 3 in the middle so i'd stick with those 2 who can run and play for the 90 minutes.

[Albionic]

I wonder what the dynamic is between VI and Jake, it appears that Mowatt is very much VI's number 1 man. Could Jake (the club captain) resent this?

[GREGMT]

Resent it?

Promotion is on the line.  Its all about picking the best players for the job.

Sawyers and HRK exited last summer, Livermore could've had no complaints if that was him also.

Solskjaer has got himself into a terrible tangle at Man Utd pandering to ego's.

[iwastherein68]

I wonder what the dynamic is between VI and Jake, it appears that Mowatt is very much VI's number 1 man. Could Jake (the club captain) resent this?

Jake has given his all this season. If anything he may resent the fact that Phillips and Furlong have been given extended contracts, and he has not,but he is too professional to let that show on the pitch.
Great pro, much maligned on this forum.

[WoysWunderful]

Jake has given his all this season. If anything he may resent the fact that Phillips and Furlong have been given extended contracts, and he has not,but he is too professional to let that show on the pitch.
Great pro, much maligned on this forum.

He isnt the best, but i feel he allways tries his best. I imagine when hes gone he will be praised (ala brunt)

[Albionic]

I was just asking for thoughts, i guess I got them   

[gazberg]

Livermore has no right to resent any other player being offered a new contract while he hasn't. He's a professional and he's on 20k a week inthe EFL.

I could understand general anxiousness about his future though. He's coming to the end of his career and hopefully this is his last year with us regardless. Saying that he always gives his all, good or bad. If he moves on i would wish him the best for the future and hope he finds a new club quickly.

[Albionic]

Livermore has no right to resent any other player being offered a new contract while he hasn't. He's a professional and he's on 20k a week inthe EFL.

I could understand general anxiousness about his future though. He's coming to the end of his career and hopefully this is his last year with us regardless. Saying that he always gives his all, good or bad. If he moves on i would wish him the best for the future and hope he finds a new club quickly.

I suspect he will be looking for one last pay day soon, (contract up June 20222) Anyone got Denise Coates' phone number?  Good luck to him if he can get a nice fat cheque from someone, or would be be in the Mozza / brunt coaching fraternity?

[Hull Baggie]

I wonder what the dynamic is between VI and Jake, it appears that Mowatt is very much VI's number 1 man. Could Jake (the club captain) resent this?

I'm not sure why you think Mowatt is Val's #1? I think Mowatt and Livermore are his preferred midfield 2.
I fully expect Livermore to be back in the 11 on Saturday.

[Atomic]

I suspect he will be looking for one last pay day soon, (contract up June 20222)

You mean we've got to put up with him another 18,000 years?

Flippin heck 

[seteefeet]

I don't think there are many who question his commitment, it's his ability that is contested. He tries hard and gives his all but, technically we need an upgrade and have done for years. IMO. Would never wish him ill though.

Sean Flynn was a committed trier but I wouldn't want him in our midfield either.

Molumby showed on Saturday that you can work hard and be technically good. Not saying that one game makes him a world beater but he certainly deserves to keep his place.
Snodgrass also showed that it's not all about legs and pace, a footballing brain can compensate for that.
I think bringing Jake back would set us back, without a doubt.

[gazberg]

I suspect he will be looking for one last pay day soon, (contract up June 20222) Anyone got Denise Coates' phone number?  Good luck to him if he can get a nice fat cheque from someone, or would be be in the Mozza / brunt coaching fraternity?

Yeah that's whylat I mean, he's probably woried about his future which is understandable but it has no relationship to the club giving out contracts to other players.

He will be lucky to get 20k PW wherever he goes next anyway

[Albionic]

You mean we've got to put up with him another 18,000 years?

Flippin heck 

Touche !

[SmethDan]

I'm not sure why you think Mowatt is Val's #1? ........

The players refer to VI as Mowatt's dad  .

[GREGMT]

I don't think there are many who question his commitment, it's his ability that is contested. He tries hard and gives his all but, technically we need an upgrade and have done for years. IMO. Would never wish him ill though.

Sean Flynn was a committed trier but I wouldn't want him in our midfield either.

Molumby showed on Saturday that you can work hard and be technically good. Not saying that one game makes him a world beater but he certainly deserves to keep his place.
Snodgrass also showed that it's not all about legs and pace, a footballing brain can compensate for that.
I think bringing Jake back would set us back, without a doubt.

This.

I have never criticised JL for commitment.  In fact you are absolutely guaranteed 100% from his every single match.

What I do question is his quality?  As long as a player is committed and focused then ability will override effort.

[wbako]

I don't think there are many who question his commitment, it's his ability that is contested. He tries hard and gives his all but, technically we need an upgrade and have done for years. IMO. Would never wish him ill though.

Sean Flynn was a committed trier but I wouldn't want him in our midfield either.

Molumby showed on Saturday that you can work hard and be technically good. Not saying that one game makes him a world beater but he certainly deserves to keep his place.
Snodgrass also showed that it's not all about legs and pace, a footballing brain can compensate for that.
I think bringing Jake back would set us back, without a doubt.

Top post. Saved me a few minutes typing something similar.

[alex1]

I don't think there are many who question his commitment, it's his ability that is contested. He tries hard and gives his all but, technically we need an upgrade and have done for years. IMO. Would never wish him ill though.

Sean Flynn was a committed trier but I wouldn't want him in our midfield either.

Ah, but would he do press-ups in the centre circle as a punishment, if he'd messed up?
I remember Flynn doing that once at the Hawthorns. 

[skyclad99]

Ah, but would he do press-ups in the centre circle as a punishment, if he'd messed up?
I remember Flynn doing that once at the Hawthorns.

I remember that! Loved the guys commitment.

[SmethDan]

Did the press up routine a few times from memory. Appreciated his commitment more than his passing though. Press up technique wasn't up to much either in fairness. I'd have preferred him to win the ball back having lost it in the first place. Pashun.......

[wbastrollers]

Livermore has no right to resent any other player being offered a new contract while he hasn't. He's a professional and he's on 20k a week inthe EFL.

I could understand general anxiousness about his future though. He's coming to the end of his career and hopefully this is his last year with us regardless. Saying that he always gives his all, good or bad. If he moves on i would wish him the best for the future and hope he finds a new club quickly.

Where have you heard Livermore resents anyone else’s contract offer?

[iwastherein68]

Where have you heard Livermore resents anyone else’s contract offer?

He hasn't, he is just clutching at straws in response to my clumsy attempt to defend Jake.
Any opportunity to take a dig.

[mulliganstired]

He hasn't, he is just clutching at straws in response to my clumsy attempt to defend Jake.
Any opportunity to take a dig.

I didn't think it was clumsy, and I agreed with what you said.

[iwastherein68]

I didn't think it was clumsy, and I agreed with what you said.

Cheers mate.

[graka]

I have never been a fan of his but he does try.
I think he will leave at the end of the season regardless, he is not good enough for the premiership and his legs can't carry him to play Val's style