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Best managers outside the Premiership
« on: February 26, 2018, 02:44:30 PM »
I realise that we are not allowed to speculate on future Albion managers while we have an incumbent, but who are the best managers to impress you outside the Premiership? It doesn't have to be someone from the fizzy pop league or from a British club.

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 02:49:16 PM »
Firstly the "Premiership" doesn't exist anymore, it is the "Premier League"

Secondly, Lee Johnson, Graham Potter are young ambitious managers that are impressive. If you want someone to get you out of the Championship Steve Bruce is your man. If Villa don't go up this season, I think they will, they are certs for next season.

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 02:52:21 PM »
Jokanovic is the best in the Championship, Rowett also very good.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 02:54:39 PM »
Big fan of Dean Smith at Brentford , also kept an eye on McInnes at Aberdeen.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 02:54:49 PM »
Jokanovic is the best in the Championship, Rowett also very good.


Yep, those two also especially Jokanovic.

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 03:13:11 PM »
I like Rowett and Jokanovic aswell

Both done extremely well at their respective clubs
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 03:34:24 PM »
Firstly the "Premiership" doesn't exist anymore, it is the "Premier League"

Secondly, Lee Johnson, Graham Potter are young ambitious managers that are impressive. If you want someone to get you out of the Championship Steve Bruce is your man. If Villa don't go up this season, I think they will, they are certs for next season.

Not so sure about this one. He took Bristol from top of the league to a relegation battle last season and now this season has took them from a comfortable top 3 side for half the season into one that is looking like missing out on the playoffs altogether, 1 win in 13 games. As others have said, Jokanovic seems by far the most stand-out candidate in the Championship at present.

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 03:42:45 PM »
Those two guys at Salford City scare the hell out of me. SCFC are most definately on the way up.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 03:52:28 PM »
Those two guys at Salford City scare the hell out of me. SCFC are most definately on the way up.

I know what you're saying! Trouble is though is that they just appear to be a couple of gobshites. That sort of managerial method might work well in the non-league game where a good old fashioned dressing room row is more of the norm, the further they progress up through the leagues the more the different calibre of players they will have playing for them will just take the attitude of "I don't have to listen to being spoken to like that" and tell them to get stuffed or just to stop putting a shift in. If Salford do make it to the football league within a couple of years (they are only 2 promotions away), my guess is that their management team wont be going with them.

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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 03:57:22 PM »
Jokanovic is the standout but think Smith, Johnson and Wilder are doing excellent jobs. From further down the ladder Kevin Nolan is somebody destined for better things and strikes me as someone who wants to be a winner
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 04:01:05 PM »
Has to be Gary Rowett and coach Kevin Philips, both at Derby get them if they don't go up.

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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2018, 04:26:14 PM »
Gheorgi Hagi
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2018, 04:42:52 PM »
Gary monk and he's available,one bookie has him At 3 rd favourite at 7/1

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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2018, 04:52:49 PM »
Said it before and I'll say it again McInnes.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2018, 04:54:05 PM »
Please remember that it is against forum rules to suggest replacements for current managers. Discuss managers you think are good, as the thread title suggests. Just don't suggest them for the managers job or talk about their availability as this will be construed as a "suggestion for the job".
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2018, 04:57:53 PM »
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Saw Hagi mentioned in an article about top young coaches / managers a while ago, I think it was possibly from 442.

He's also part owner or chairman of the club he is at though.

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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2018, 04:58:10 PM »
Said it before and I'll say it again McInnes.

What is it about McInnes that you like so much?

 For me he's done nothing at Aberdeen, they were always going to become the 2nd best team in the SPl once Rangers imploded and he hasn't done anything in Europe with them.
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2018, 05:29:24 PM »
What is it about McInnes that you like so much?

 For me he's done nothing at Aberdeen, they were always going to become the 2nd best team in the SPl once Rangers imploded and he hasn't done anything in Europe with them.
I like how he talks , what he demands from his side.
I won't claim to know masses about the SPL but I do know Aberdeen were rubbish before he went there and he's turned them around on a shoe string plus they won a cup .
He's one of those that wouldnt quite be your top pick yet you'd be gutted if he was a success elsewhere , as I say there is something about him.
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2018, 05:53:40 PM »
I like how he talks , what he demands from his side.
I won't claim to know masses about the SPL but I do know Aberdeen were rubbish before he went there and he's turned them around on a shoe string plus they won a cup .
He's one of those that wouldnt quite be your top pick yet you'd be gutted if he was a success elsewhere , as I say there is something about him.

Aberdeen had gone through a poor spell for a few years before he was appointed granted, including a relegation in 2007/8 (I think).

yes he won the league cup in 2013/14.

I can't imagine that he'd be successful anywhere at a decent level. For me he'd be lower Championship at best.
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2018, 06:20:44 PM »
Aberdeen had gone through a poor spell for a few years before he was appointed granted, including a relegation in 2007/8 (I think).

yes he won the league cup in 2013/14.

I can't imagine that he'd be successful anywhere at a decent level. For me he'd be lower Championship at best.
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2018, 06:38:23 PM »
Graham Potter - doing excellent things and seems to have a specific vision and focus.
Gary Rowett - Derby
Slavisa Jokanovic - Fulham
Dean Smith - Brentford
Lee Johnson - Bristol City
Paul Hurst - Shrewsbury
Derek McInnes - Aberdeen

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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2018, 06:38:36 PM »
I like how he talks , what he demands from his side.
I won't claim to know masses about the SPL but I do know Aberdeen were rubbish before he went there and he's turned them around on a shoe string plus they won a cup .
He's one of those that wouldnt quite be your top pick yet you'd be gutted if he was a success elsewhere , as I say there is something about him.

I think he's rubbish.

His record against Celtic and Rangers is embarrassing.

Would be disappointed if he ever rocked up here.

In answer to the original question - Rowett, Jokankvic and Dean Smith are the stand out managers in the championship
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2018, 07:02:34 PM »
I think he's rubbish.

His record against Celtic and Rangers is embarrassing.

Would be disappointed if he ever rocked up here.

In answer to the original question - Rowett, Jokankvic and Dean Smith are the stand out managers in the championship
So's ever manager we have had playing against Man City for the same reasons. Mind you Liam you did tell me that Swansea manager from Wednesday was gash  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2018, 07:14:52 PM »
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Mike Flynn has done a great job at Newport and who knows he may do a great job elsewhere. It's difficult to say how much of his effect has been down to him knowing the club and players so well and his lively personality. He's one to keep an eye on.
I'd prefer to see one of Rowett, Jokankvic and Dean Smith on the grounds that they are more proven, but whether we could get any of them is another matter.
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2018, 07:45:21 PM »
Slightly confused with this thread, is it the 'best manager outside the premier league'? or is it the 'best manager outside the premier league who members on here would like to see replace Alan Pardew'? as many seem to be alluding to, which is apparently against forum rules. Just asking!
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2018, 07:49:03 PM »
Slightly confused with this thread, is it the 'best manager outside the premier league'? or is it the 'best manager outside the premier league who members on here would like to see replace Alan Pardew'? as many seem to be alluding to, which is apparently against forum rules. Just asking!


I took it to mean best managers in the Championship or lower profile leagues. Hence no one saying the Barca boss or any top international managers  ;)
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2018, 07:57:29 PM »

I took it to mean best managers in the Championship or lower profile leagues. Hence no one saying the Barca boss or any top international managers  ;)

Thanks for clearing that up  ;D

Heres my suggestion of a great up & coming coach from outside the premier league that would be perfect for say, a struggling club near the bottom who were looking for a new head coach, in the event that the job was vacant  ;)

Julian Nagelsmann, young guy doing a great job at Hoffenheim.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2018, 08:04:31 PM »
horrible player but Paul Cooke has got Wigan playing well, not many get the better of Man City.

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2018, 08:18:15 PM »
This is left field but anyway the 2 brothers at Lincoln must have something about them
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2018, 08:23:51 PM »
This is left field but anyway the 2 brothers at Lincoln must have something about them


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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2018, 09:12:08 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up  ;D

Heres my suggestion of a great up & coming coach from outside the premier league that would be perfect for say, a struggling club near the bottom who were looking for a new head coach, in the event that the job was vacant  ;)

Julian Nagelsmann, young guy doing a great job at Hoffenheim.

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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2018, 09:57:14 PM »
Slightly confused with this thread, is it the 'best manager outside the premier league'? or is it the 'best manager outside the premier league who members on here would like to see replace Alan Pardew'? as many seem to be alluding to, which is apparently against forum rules. Just asking!

Just best managers outside the Premier League.

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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2018, 10:39:17 PM »
So's ever manager we have had playing against Man City for the same reasons. Mind you Liam you did tell me that Swansea manager from Wednesday was gash  ;D
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I still maintain that Carvalhal will fail at Swansea  :D

I didn't expect him to get such a bounce at Swansea tbh. His last year & a half at Hillsborough was a total bore.

Still, the issues were bigger than the manager - more his agent (doyen sports) who seem to have a large say. Carvalhal getting rid of the medical team and then appointing his mates and losing his whole first team to injury never helped

As for McInnes - I can't see the appeal. Beyond his connection to us
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2018, 11:04:38 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up  ;D

Heres my suggestion of a great up & coming coach from outside the premier league that would be perfect for say, a struggling club near the bottom who were looking for a new head coach, in the event that the job was vacant  ;)

Julian Nagelsmann, young guy doing a great job at Hoffenheim.

Julian Nagelsmann has certainly got youth on his side. He'd actually be younger than half the first team squad!  I doubt we would have much chance of getting him as he is widely tipped as a future Bayern manager. Him or the Eintracht Frankfurt manager Nicko Kovac.

On the other hand Martin Schmidt recently resigned as manager of Wolfsburg, for some unknown reason, with the club trying hard to keep him! Would be an unusual case of employing someone who hadn't already been sacked!
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2018, 11:41:27 PM »
Julian Nagelsmann has certainly got youth on his side. He'd actually be younger than half the first team squad!  I doubt we would have much chance of getting him as he is widely tipped as a future Bayern manager. Him or the Eintracht Frankfurt manager Nicko Kovac.

On the other hand Martin Schmidt recently resigned as manager of Wolfsburg, for some unknown reason, with the club trying hard to keep him! Would be an unusual case of employing someone who hadn't already been sacked!

I wasn't suggesting we would be getting him, just that he is a good up and coming coach outside of the premier league, which is what the thread is about, I think.
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2018, 11:30:33 AM »
Please remember that it is against forum rules to suggest replacements for current managers. Discuss managers you think are good, as the thread title suggests. Just don't suggest them for the managers job or talk about their availability as this will be construed as a "suggestion for the job".

Genuine question now. Is there any thread for us to talk about managers who are linked by the media/newspaper, that aren't our suggestions? Just asking because it applies to our club and it is a huge topic, it's pretty much the only thing fans are discussing at the moment. And it's hard to discuss AP without other names being mentioned as it's all over the media.

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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2018, 12:57:00 PM »
Genuine question now. Is there any thread for us to talk about managers who are linked by the media/newspaper, that aren't our suggestions? Just asking because it applies to our club and it is a huge topic, it's pretty much the only thing fans are discussing at the moment. And it's hard to discuss AP without other names being mentioned as it's all over the media.

Thanks.

Personally for me if posters are discussing the merits of managers that the media are suggesting then they are still discussing Pardew's replacement so the short answer is No.
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« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2018, 12:58:32 PM »
I like the look of a guy called Tony Mowbray, turned Blackburn around and now top of League 1. Tony knows the Championship and has unfinished business at a certain club.

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« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2018, 12:25:47 PM »
Wonder if Carrick will take his coaching badges...? Player/Manager

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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2018, 12:13:31 PM »
First and foremost, I could not stand this bloke as a player, but "as a player" is irrelevant.

Is there a case for this chap being the best outside the prem?

Kevin Nolan, has taken Notts County from a relegation cert to 3rd place in less than a season, he has mixed "waning stars' with youth and got them playing decent footy with commitment. I know its a BIG step up compared to us, but we will likely start next season at the same position as 23 other clubs, so in reality the step from top of Div4 to a level field at start Div2 isn't SOO massive. So I can foresee one of competitors taking a chance on him.

Nolan, knows the league, he has good contacts, he is young, hungry and is known as a mentor to young players, I remember that Newcastle made him Andy Carrolls minder, sharing his home et al, when the big 'un was going off the rails).

Will we be competing with a Nolan side in the near future?

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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2018, 03:45:44 PM »
My missus and her family are County fans.

They reckon that if they don't get promoted Nolan could get poached - there might be something in his contract, I can't remember.

If they do get promoted, that will be a big test, as their older players may not cope as well.
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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2018, 03:56:12 PM »
My missus and her family are County fans.

They reckon that if they don't get promoted Nolan could get poached - there might be something in his contract, I can't remember.

If they do get promoted, that will be a big test, as their older players may not cope as well.

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whats the fans verdict on the quality of football he is serving up?
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« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2018, 11:01:00 PM »
hi Mark,
whats the fans verdict on the quality of football he is serving up?
That's a good question. Against Swansea in the cup it looked a bit direct to me from what I saw....of course it could have been deliberate tactics for that tie.
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« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2018, 11:31:09 PM »
I honestly couldn't tell you. I think like Adder says, it is quite direct, but not hoofball.

There are some rumours on Magpies boards that he has bottled it this season. That he's frozen out some players and has others who are his 'favourites'. He's doing well, but he's on his first step of a long journey.

I'd love to see how that squad coped with League 1 if they went up, because the likes of Stead, Ameobi and Hunt aren't getting any younger.
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