[kc56wba]

Albion fans spent years deriding Pulis and everything he stood for.

Regardless of whether he is effective or not, I'm not a hypocrite - I don't want him.

If people want to be hypocrites and champion Pulis then they can.

(not calling you a hypocrite btw!) 

Best post I have read regarding Pulis and it's true.

[LiamTheBaggie]

I agree, although Pulis would keep us up (and it's debatable to unlikely that that would be the case under Irvine), I don't see him as the answer. Realistically, we need to look abroad and look for an English-speaking manager with the appropriate qualities. If we are willing to pay compensation and let go of our current "coaches", they're definitely out there.

He also spent what must have been near 40 or 50 million at Stoke.

After each summer their style of football got progressively worse.

He walked out on Palace because their chairman wouldn't allow him an open cheque book.

Why would it be any different here?

[maccbaggie]

He also spent what must have been near 40 or 50 million at Stoke.

After each summer their style of football got progressively worse.

He walked out on Palace because their chairman wouldn't allow him an open cheque book.

Why would it be any different here?

I'm agreeing that Pulis isn't the answer? I don't want him

[gazberg]

Have Pulis and be kept up or keep AI and go down?

Both are boring and both teams would play dull football but staying in the Prem over 'the excitement' of the Champ? Yes please.

[Legend]

Fulham looked abroad with a manager who had a great CV and he ended up being a disaster. Be careful what you wish for.

[maccbaggie]

Fulham looked abroad with a manager who had a great CV and he ended up being a disaster. Be careful what you wish for.

Yeah, but if Fulham's (mad) chairman had done his research on Magath he'd have known that he was a long way from being suitable

[LiamTheBaggie]

I'm agreeing that Pulis isn't the answer? I don't want him

My question was a general question - not one aimed at you.

I was just strengthening our argument that we don't want Pulis. 

[Aztech]

Albion fans spent years deriding Pulis and everything he stood for.

Regardless of whether he is effective or not, I'm not a hypocrite - I don't want him.

If people want to be hypocrites and champion Pulis then they can.

(not calling you a hypocrite btw!) 

I would not want Pulis, however more to the point he would not join anyway.

The list of people who would join is very small, hence why we are where we are with Irvine.

[maccbaggie]

My question was a general question - not one aimed at you.

I was just strengthening our argument that we don't want Pulis. 

That has my support 

[VVVAlbion]

Yeah, but if Fulham's (mad) chairman had done his research on Magath he'd have known that he was a long way from being suitable

Due diligence. It's the future.

[LoxleyBaggie]

I'd prefer it wasn't Pulis but if it gave us a chance to be in the Premiership next season and select a coach then who we were more comfortable with then I'd make that compromise. The question is how long do you give Irvine to turn it around and who do you select if he doesn't? Names on the table before ridiculing other suggestions.

[WBAinDEVON]

Folks he's staying. That I do believe . Let's just hope we see a good game in the championship. Maybe downing is the problem, we couldn't defend corners then

[maccbaggie]

I would not want Pulis, however more to the point he would not join anyway.

The list of people who would join is very small, hence why we are where we are with Irvine.

Which is exactly why Peace needs to review the current policy of retaining Downing and Kiely totally regardless of performance and his unwillingness to pay compensation.

Interestingly, I remember when Mel was sacked, Lepkowski reporting that there were some "extremely impressive" applicants for the job. We ended up with Alan Irvine. That suggests something about the club (probably an unwillingness to bring in coaches and pay decent money) put those candidates off.

The fact there were those impressive applicants in the first place however is very encouraging, and suggests that if we are flexible with our policy we should be able to attract the best. And lets face it, in arguably the best league in the world that shouldn't be surprising.

[maccbaggie]

Folks he's staying. That I do believe . Let's just hope we see a good game in the championship. Maybe downing is the problem, we couldn't defend corners then

Based upon what?

[Aztech]

Due diligence. It's the future.

Due diligence at West Brom is to prepare a list of Head coaches who fit the bill and are prepared to work within the constraints put on them (Downing and Kiely) hence why it takes so long to fill the position.

[maccbaggie]

Due diligence. It's the future.

Due diligence is important. Unfortunately, our chairman's interpretation of due diligence is to spend 6 weeks interviewing candidates for whom a basic check of their record would tell you they are nowhere near up to a Premier League job.

[WBAinDEVON]

Based upon what?

I can't honestly se JP doing what most of us want. Can you?
When do we sack ,we won't win against city and unlikely get results against Stoke (see record) and west ham. Maybe after a humiliating cup exit

[maccbaggie]

I can't honestly se JP doing what most of us want. Can you?
When do we sack ,we won't win against city and unlikely get results against Stoke (see record) and west ham. Maybe after a humiliating cup exit

Good, just checking it wasn't based on inside information.

I can continue to live in hope.

[LoxleyBaggie]

so how will Pulis improve on a manager who's got 6 clean sheets in 17 games? he improves defences true but he won't do all that much in this situation as surely the complaints are at the other end?

I take your point but Pulis has the knack of converting clean sheets into points on the board.  I've not been one to jump on the Irvine out bandwagon, I've reserved judgement till now, but it is increasingly clear that a decision needs to made sooner or later and the run in unfortunately suggests it is required sooner then other seasons. 

[hardtobeat]

Sorry but it was a urine poor appointment then and NOTHING that has happened since has made me think otherwise!! As for who else given that it has to be somebody not currently employed then it would have to come from a list consisting of Pulis , Jol, Hughton as experienced prem league coaches, Meulensteen if JP wanted to carry on down his current preferred path or as a total left field appointment McCoist , all of whom could do no worse imo than the current incumbent and would be a more credible option for a chairman that doesnt like being ridiculed !

[WBAinDEVON]

Has he been interviewed about the game yet

[VVVAlbion]

We don't have a consistent goalscorer and without one of them it doesn't matter much who is the coach.

[Aztech]

Has he been interviewed about the game yet

Yes - Austin is a quality player whom we kept quite apart from his penalty and two goals from open play.

[LiamTheBaggie]

Alan Irvine After Match Comments

"We deserved to win the game and the fact that we didn't was down to us not defending well at three corners and not being clinical.

"Austin is a top player. As I said this week when I was Sheffield Wednesday manager I wanted to sign him. He looks a very good player.

"It's bitterly disappointing to leave with nothing as I would have been disappointed with just a point."

(courtesy of BBC sport)

[LiamTheBaggie]

Yes - Austin is a quality player whom we kept quite apart from his penalty and two goals from open play.

He's never said that surely?!