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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #4525 on: October 26, 2015, 05:15:56 PM »
I don't think Moyes is under as much pressure as some make out. La Liga is very, very tight right now. To put it into perspective, if he lost his next game, Sociedad could be 20th and bottom. If, however, he won his next game, he could go 8th.

Hopefully he picks up another win and the pressure eases, because I think he would be very good for the Villa. I think he genuinely enjoys life over there so hopefully he stays for another season at least.

Regarding Liam's comments, yes - no one is denying that the Villa aren't a big club, they are. However, so are Leeds and Forest, who also have a bad boardroom and that is like poison to many managers and rightly so.

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« Reply #4526 on: October 26, 2015, 05:32:30 PM »
Durham & Goughy biggin these up makes me want to vomit
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« Reply #4527 on: October 26, 2015, 05:34:24 PM »
Anyone on here going to apply?  ;)
I'll do it.  ;)
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« Reply #4528 on: October 26, 2015, 05:34:42 PM »
Garde move may be scuppered by difficulties recruiting his desired backroom staff...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11956082/Aston-Villas-move-for-Remi-Garde-under-threat.html

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« Reply #4529 on: October 26, 2015, 05:38:08 PM »
One of their own fans on Sky today more or less conceded they're not a big club. Forest and Leeds dropped down the pyramid and retained the majority of their support, only to see it recently begin to diminish due to ownership. This is why I'd class these as big clubs as opposed to Villa.

If Sociedad are bottom by the end of this weekends games I'll donate £1000 to a charity of your choice Legend. £10 if they're lower than 17th.

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« Reply #4530 on: October 26, 2015, 06:18:05 PM »
Sky Sports News reporter saying Garde move on brink of collapse. Poyet in...

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« Reply #4531 on: October 26, 2015, 06:23:12 PM »
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« Reply #4532 on: October 26, 2015, 06:55:39 PM »
there is only one bloke who can keep them up but we need him :)
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« Reply #4533 on: October 26, 2015, 07:01:04 PM »
Oh dear, Tim's had a couple of strips torn off his ego and looks like he's on his way to manage the "massive" Swindon  :D

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« Reply #4534 on: October 26, 2015, 07:15:48 PM »
WM tonight is comedy gold  :D
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« Reply #4535 on: October 26, 2015, 07:24:27 PM »
WM tonight is comedy gold  :D
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« Reply #4536 on: October 26, 2015, 07:26:03 PM »

How dare you even consider :)
I may turn out hamfisted. ;)
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« Reply #4537 on: October 26, 2015, 07:39:13 PM »
One bloke on WM said he wants Ancelotti. Franksy reminded him they are bottom of the league with no money  ;D ;D
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« Reply #4538 on: October 26, 2015, 07:46:50 PM »
Gift that keeps on giving, oh, and we beat them 1-0 away, for a change  :D

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« Reply #4539 on: October 26, 2015, 08:32:21 PM »
One of their own fans on Sky today more or less conceded they're not a big club. Forest and Leeds dropped down the pyramid and retained the majority of their support, only to see it recently begin to diminish due to ownership. This is why I'd class these as big clubs as opposed to Villa.

If Sociedad are bottom by the end of this weekends games I'll donate £1000 to a charity of your choice Legend. £10 if they're lower than 17th.

Villa and Leeds are pretty similar I'd say (though Leeds were a nothing club till the 60s) and are far bigger than Forest in my opinion, who are just one of a whole host of similarly sized clubs (us, Wolves, Blues, Derby, the Sheffield clubs etc)

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« Reply #4540 on: October 26, 2015, 09:30:33 PM »
Villa and Leeds are pretty similar I'd say (though Leeds were a nothing club till the 60s) and are far bigger than Forest in my opinion, who are just one of a whole host of similarly sized clubs (us, Wolves, Blues, Derby, the Sheffield clubs etc)

I would agree with that assessment as well fella, think you have it about right size wise.

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« Reply #4541 on: October 26, 2015, 09:33:51 PM »
In modern football terms, Villa have the potential to be a club of the same size as Everton and Tottenham: upper mid-table most years, Europa League staples.  In other words, around the level they were hitting under Martin O'Neill (which, I seem to recall, wasn't anywhere near good enough for their fans).  Not only does modern football not care what happened before 1992, these days it's not even particularly bothered about your history pre-2009 - the year that Financial Fair Play was introduced, kicking away the ladder for clubs who wanted a Sheikh Mansour or Roman Abramovich transformation.  For an incoming manager, there could hardly be a bigger poisoned chalice in the Premier League than a club like Villa in their present position: if you get relegated then you'll be known as the bloke who took them down for the very first time; if you survive then they'll immediately expect you to start punching for mid-table the following season and improving year after year lest the fans get restless; the best-case scenario is that you'll take them up to around 7th within a couple of years and then get poached by one of the top clubs before the deluded hordes expect even more from you.

That's a lot of risk for very little potential gain.  The only time in recent years I can recall a manager ditching an established club for that kind of scenario was Redknapp to Spurs in 2008, and let's face it, 'Arry must have known that bankruptcy was on the horizon for Pompey when he made his decision.  (You could maybe argue Pardew to Palace last season was another case, but expectations at Palace are far lower, and Newcastle are a lot like Villa in being a poisoned chalice for a manager).  I think it would be madness for anyone but an out-of-work manager to take them on right now.
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« Reply #4542 on: October 26, 2015, 10:25:33 PM »
Dwight York thrown his hat into the ring as well, I love it. 💋
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« Reply #4543 on: October 26, 2015, 11:14:09 PM »
Steve kean
Mick mcarthy
Alan Irvine
Terry Connor
Nigel Adkins
Curbs
Mcleish
Gary Rowett
Pep guardiola

I'd imagine that's the current list?
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« Reply #4544 on: October 26, 2015, 11:21:35 PM »
Steve kean
Mick mcarthy
Alan Irvine
Terry Connor
Nigel Adkins
Curbs
Mcleish
Gary Rowett
Pep guardiola



I'd imagine that's the current list?

I think you have forgotten the unemployed Ancelloti.

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« Reply #4545 on: October 27, 2015, 01:13:04 AM »
Dwight York thrown his hat into the ring as well, I love it. 💋

Yup, heard him on the radio earlier.
Seems very keen to 'get his teeth into them'.
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For the record and to any Viler's who may be reading this, I looked forward to the opportunity of playing your sh1te splat of a club for years. Even when there was a gulf between our clubs and we were on for a defeat, it was a chance to land one on you no matter what the score.

As for now though, please do the decent thing and just f(k off down.
It's all a bit boring now, and I look forward to you becoming the same irrelelvance to us that the Dog Heads do with each and every passing game.

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« Reply #4546 on: October 27, 2015, 11:24:55 AM »
I don't think Moyes is under as much pressure as some make out. La Liga is very, very tight right now. To put it into perspective, if he lost his next game, Sociedad could be 20th and bottom. If, however, he won his next game, he could go 8th.

Hopefully he picks up another win and the pressure eases, because I think he would be very good for the Villa. I think he genuinely enjoys life over there so hopefully he stays for another season at least.

Regarding Liam's comments, yes - no one is denying that the Villa aren't a big club, they are. However, so are Leeds and Forest, who also have a bad boardroom and that is like poison to many managers and rightly so.

It looks like the pressure on him is mainly fan discontent.

He also says he wants to stay in Spain which is good, although he is hardly likely to say I want to leave.

I'm not so sure he would want the Villa job anyway, his reputation isn't great here and the last thing he would want on his CV is a relegation.
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« Reply #4547 on: October 27, 2015, 12:50:39 PM »
As observed by many, the Vile have become the cockroaches of the Prem', real nuclear holocaust survivor's.

However, if they don't appoint somebody half decent this time, then I can see a Dingle-esque melt down on their horizon. Please let it be so.

For Randy Lerner it could be Mike Morgan, both want out.

For Tom Fox it could be Jez Moxey.

The writing is very much on the wall, here's hoping they leave the graffiti be........

I will laugh my bits off if their care taker 'Messiah' comes out against Southampton (League Cup) and Spurs with a bloody clip board.

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« Reply #4548 on: October 27, 2015, 01:08:53 PM »
Don't know why but I can just see Nigel Pearson becoming the next manager.
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« Reply #4549 on: October 27, 2015, 02:14:11 PM »
Don't know why but I can just see Nigel Pearson becoming the next manager.

If Remi Garde is ruled out I think Pearson must be the favorite. Out of work nothing to lose if it all goes tits up inside 6 months picks up a decent pay off if he keeps them up reputation for keeping basket cases in the division enhanced.
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