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« Reply #150 on: July 11, 2015, 07:04:23 PM »
Its all posturing. You don't go all out with a first bid or you quickly find yourself in financial trouble, you have a starting point and then negotiate from there to try and find a compromise. If we hadn't been given any encouragement from QPR and the player then we would have given up by now.

But by the same token if you are buying a house at say £100k you usually offer about £90k, you don't say i will give you £50k for it,that's a 50 percent reduction.

We knew the price they valued him at, if we were serious we would have made a first offer of £8k.

All this is smoke and mirror's by Peace again.

Megson gave him a list and then went on tour, it seems that Pulis has fallen for the same trick.

We will still be trying to sign players on August 31.

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« Reply #151 on: July 11, 2015, 07:25:28 PM »
But by the same token if you are buying a house at say £100k you usually offer about £90k, you don't say i will give you £50k for it,that's a 50 percent reduction.

We knew the price they valued him at, if we were serious we would have made a first offer of £8k.

All this is smoke and mirror's by Peace again.

Megson gave him a list and then went on tour, it seems that Pulis has fallen for the same trick.

We will still be trying to sign players on August 31.

Sorry but that's ridiculous. You don't just jump in and bow down to what the selling club wants. It's all about spending wisely and offering 8 million as the opening offer for Matt Phillips is far from wise. No doubt the club are still talking with QPR and have a list of back up options in case they lose patience with the potential matt Phillips deal.

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« Reply #152 on: July 11, 2015, 07:49:09 PM »
But by the same token if you are buying a house at say £100k you usually offer about £90k, you don't say i will give you £50k for it,that's a 50 percent reduction.

We knew the price they valued him at, if we were serious we would have made a first offer of £8k.

All this is smoke and mirror's by Peace again.

Megson gave him a list and then went on tour, it seems that Pulis has fallen for the same trick.

We will still be trying to sign players on August 31.

now that would have been a ridiculous bid!
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« Reply #153 on: July 11, 2015, 08:10:08 PM »
He will go to palace mark my words

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« Reply #154 on: July 11, 2015, 08:15:26 PM »
He will go to palace mark my words

Can't see him going there unless Bolasie or zaha are leaving

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« Reply #155 on: July 11, 2015, 08:16:05 PM »
Was going to say they have better than him.

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« Reply #156 on: July 11, 2015, 09:31:35 PM »
Heard from a reliable source today that the players Pulis wants are of a much higher calibre than we are used to aiming for. He doesn't rate Phillips at £10m and is deciding weather to move onto a lesser player or try to haggle with a club who won't answer/return calls. This is the kind of brinkmanship that is going on at the moment.

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« Reply #157 on: July 11, 2015, 10:51:50 PM »
Can't see him going there unless Bolasie or zaha are leaving
I agree with that. Bolaise and Zaha were both great last season so I can't see it. Plus they just spent £12 million on Cabaye who is on around £70k p/w so I doubt they will spend much more money.
In my opinion, it's clubs like Sunderland, Newcastle and Saints who would be our main rivals for Phillips, not Palace.

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« Reply #158 on: July 12, 2015, 05:54:49 AM »


Very good point. If they value the player at £10 million then why start the bidding at £5 million? Ultimately it achieves absolutely nothing.

Its about time we started aggressively attacking a transfer window.

Last year when Derby (who are a Championship club) wanted Thorne they refused to accept no for an answer and every few days they increased the offer.

After 6 years in the Premier League why are we still seemingly stuck in a time warp?

Remind me again, which division are Derby in?
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« Reply #159 on: July 12, 2015, 10:02:30 AM »
QPR want as much money as possible. It's in their best interest to pay him another months wage in the hope of getting an extra £1 or 2million if a bidding war starts.

It's the same for Austin too. Half the league are interested but nobody has been able to meet their valuation yet.

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« Reply #160 on: July 12, 2015, 12:13:52 PM »
Can't see him going there unless Bolasie or zaha are leaving

Strength in depth? I honestly think that if we do manage to agree a fee someone more attractive will match it and we lose out. I‘d rather we find this out sooner and move on.
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« Reply #161 on: July 13, 2015, 10:00:10 AM »
Palace won't spend that sort of money on another winger - they've spent a lot of their budget on Cabaye already.
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« Reply #162 on: July 13, 2015, 10:06:59 AM »
Palace won't spend that sort of money on another winger - they've spent a lot of their budget on Cabaye already.

I'm not sure we know what their budget is to be fair.

they have been linked with Austin at 15m. if they are willing to offer that and he goes elsewhere they suddenly have 15m spare to spend

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« Reply #163 on: July 13, 2015, 11:22:34 AM »
Well what I'm really saying is - as they are well stocked on the wings.  Puncheon, Zaha, Bolasie to start with it's unlikely they're up for gazumping us for a winger for £10m too.  They have areas that need strengthening - just like, as you a striker.

I mean you can try and keep 4 wingers happy but unless they get long term injuries it would be pretty difficult right?

I think Philips will be ours - unless Pulis decides to go for someone else.
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« Reply #164 on: July 13, 2015, 01:37:55 PM »
I'm not sure we know what their budget is to be fair.

they have been linked with Austin at 15m. if they are willing to offer that and he goes elsewhere they suddenly have 15m spare to spend

Read last week that they were going to offer QPR a deal of £6M plus players for Austin. Maybe they don't have that much money to play with.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3155146/Crystal-Palace-set-make-6m-exchange-bid-QPR-striker-Charlie-Austin-look-bolster-strikeforce.html

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« Reply #165 on: July 13, 2015, 08:21:29 PM »
Anichebe plus 8m or 9m for Austin

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« Reply #166 on: July 13, 2015, 09:13:25 PM »
Anichebe plus 8m or 9m for Austin

That would mean you value Anichebe at 6 million to match their 15 million evaluation which is absurd. If we were going to offer anichebe aswell as cash we would probably be looking at Anichebe plus 13.5 million.

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« Reply #167 on: July 14, 2015, 08:52:30 AM »
That would mean you value Anichebe at 6 million to match their 15 million evaluation which is absurd. If we were going to offer anichebe aswell as cash we would probably be looking at Anichebe plus 13.5 million.

I wouldn't worry about it too much.
He's got interest from 9 other Premier League clubs. That fact alone will put us well down his list of prefered moves, so I'd be more than surprised to see him turn up here.
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« Reply #168 on: July 14, 2015, 08:55:09 AM »
That would mean you value Anichebe at 6 million to match their 15 million evaluation which is absurd. If we were going to offer anichebe aswell as cash we would probably be looking at Anichebe plus 13.5 million.
If Austin is worth £15m, surely we'd have to give then £16m and Anichebe?

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« Reply #169 on: July 14, 2015, 09:03:12 AM »
If Austin is worth £15m, surely we'd have to give then £16m and Anichebe?

Yes we would as they would need to hire another club doctor.

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« Reply #170 on: July 14, 2015, 05:09:41 PM »
£10 million for Phillips is too much and QPR are taking the pee trying to hold out for that much. I very much doubt if any club will pay that. We should tell them to get stuffed and only to give us a call if/when they come down from cloud cuckoo land

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« Reply #171 on: July 14, 2015, 05:24:11 PM »
if its true that qpr wont budge on 10m then we should be walking away not messing around chasing shadows  times ticking

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« Reply #172 on: July 14, 2015, 05:46:54 PM »
if its true that qpr wont budge on 10m then we should be walking away not messing around chasing shadows  times ticking
Maybe we have walked away.  ;)
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« Reply #173 on: July 14, 2015, 06:28:16 PM »
if its true that qpr wont budge on 10m then we should be walking away not messing around chasing shadows  times ticking
Question is where do we walk ? Whoever we go for at this stage of the window will be driving a hard bargain, including Forest with Antonio. It seems to be very hard to get players in early unless you are prepared to offer very close to the price being asked, inflated or not.
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« Reply #174 on: July 14, 2015, 06:29:08 PM »
£10 million for Phillips is too much and QPR are taking the pee trying to hold out for that much. I very much doubt if any club will pay that. We should tell them to get stuffed and only to give us a call if/when they come down from cloud cuckoo land

Just imagine how much he'd be worth if we were trying to sell him. £15-20m probably. I think we've took the pee big time in the past when selling players yet offer a pittance when trying to buy.
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