[NJS]

And yet the main steam media e.g. Sky either have no clue or no interest in what’s happening at our club. Look at last weeks one-sided love in with Leeds United!

Sky is only interested in the big city clubs with big city sized support for that's where the advertising money is.  They must be "quite pleased" when referees are unduly forgiving of big club mistakes and come down hard on the smaller clubs.  Anything else is a complication; just think how convenient and efficient it would be if they only had to report from a handful of grounds with permanently based broadcasting kit.

Unless the government intervenes with effective regulation, this country will soon have a continental system with a handful of clubs full of foreign players winning everything and second and lower divisions sinking to semi-pro status.

[SedgleyAlbion]

Anything the government do may help clubs and the football industry in future, but I don’t see how it’s going to  help us in the here and now with Lai.

Andy Street has helped facilitate the sales of Blues and Coventry, surely that’s worth a try. I can’t for the life of me work out why people sit on a keyboard, saying this won’t work, that won’t work.

I’ve got off my backside and tried to do something, anything, I possibly can to try to help save our club. I tell you one thing, I’d rather keep trying and what you see as failing than just sit at a screen bitching about it.

It might not get anywhere, you’re right. But at least I and we have tried.

Rant over 🤣

[SedgleyAlbion]

A summary of our recent meeting with Andy Street & Nicola Richards MP

Action for Albion founder Alistair Jones said:

“From the first day of our campaign we said that we want to campaign respectfully, legally and always maintain support for our team on the pitch.

Thanks to this approach, we have retained the support of local MPs and we have now had the opportunity to raise our concerns with the West Midlands Mayor.

On behalf of our organisations, I want to thank Andy for his time and Nicola for all the work she has put in to raise awareness of the situation at the club.

Our meeting was very productive, and we look forward to working with both for the benefit of the club, the fans and the community that the club does so much to support.

Our approach is from three angles spread across visual matchday action to raise awareness, direct communication with the football club management and lobbying the support of outside persons of influence who can further our cause both politically and in the media.

Without the legal, peaceful and constructive approach we have adopted the latter two parts of the campaign would not be possible and our firm belief as we move into the post “Lai Out” era (he wants out, that’s done) is that this lobbying is now a critical part of the campaign as we look to tell the world that West Bromwich Albion, whilst in peril at the moment, is a fantastic opportunity for an investor to realise the potential of the wonderful club we all support”

[gazberg]

Andy Street has helped facilitate the sales of Blues and Coventry, surely that’s worth a try. I can’t for the life of me work out why people sit on a keyboard, saying this won’t work, that won’t work.

I’ve got off my backside and tried to do something, anything, I possibly can to try to help save our club. I tell you one thing, I’d rather keep trying and what you see as failing than just sit at a screen bitching about it.

It might not get anywhere, you’re right. But at least I and we have tried.

Rant over 🤣

I find a lot of Albion fans are apathetic sadly. Won't do anything themselves but will moan about those who try.

I appreciate your efforts again. It's a thankless task.

[darbolina]

I think what A4A is doing is fantastic, thank you and  keep going please!! It is making an impact as people are talking about it.

Lobbying politicians to change football club ownership regulation has to be something nearly every fan of every club wants . Clubs in this country are not business ventures first but the heart and soul of  communities and need to be regulated that way , maybe even not for profit or with a cooperative approach of fan majority ownership like in Germany .

Self regulation doesn’t work so there needs to be a game-wide change in this country. Albion are one of many clubs with shocking owners who have used clubs for their own purposes and the club comes second.

[johnny Cash]

Andy Street has helped facilitate the sales of Blues and Coventry, surely that’s worth a try. I can’t for the life of me work out why people sit on a keyboard, saying this won’t work, that won’t work.

I’ve got off my backside and tried to do something, anything, I possibly can to try to help save our club. I tell you one thing, I’d rather keep trying and what you see as failing than just sit at a screen bitching about it.

It might not get anywhere, you’re right. But at least I and we have tried.

Rant over 🤣

I’d be interested in what way Andy Street has facilitated the sale of either. I’ve not looked in to it but I find it hard to believe he did.

It wasnt even really a dig at you. You’re seem very sensitive. You shouldn’t  hold out yourself out there as the spokes person for the fans and then take comments so personally . Especially when as has been said already in this thread, some of what you say is just wrong. I can’t understand why two grown men would go up to the ground to get a picture of themselves holding their open letter but each to their own.

What exactly do you think the government will for us? They aren’t going to meddle in a specific private business.  They may do things to regulate the industry and ownerships collectively, but that doesn’t help us with Lai, which is what I said.

[SedgleyAlbion]

I’d be interested in what way Andy Street has facilitated the sale of either. I’ve not looked in to it but I find it hard to believe he did.

It wasnt even really a dig at you. You’re seem very sensitive. You shouldn’t  hold out yourself out there as the spokes person for the fans and then take comments so personally . Especially when as has been said already in this thread, some of what you say is just wrong. I can’t understand why two grown men would go up to the ground to get a picture of themselves holding their open letter but each to their own.

What exactly do you think the government will for us? They aren’t going to meddle in a specific private business.  They may do things to regulate the industry and ownerships collectively, but that doesn’t help us with Lai, which is what I said.

I can’t understand why a grown man can sit on a keyboard typing things without actually doing something themselves, but each to their own. I think you are wrong also, you’re not the oracle of all business.

As for the grown men bit, I would have thought it would have been painfully obvious that its exposure in the media that is required. You don’t know me, and believe me I’ve no interest in knowing you ever, but I do know I’m trying to help the club I love. Might get some things wrong occasionally, but I’m trying. I’ve sacrificed more than you will ever know doing this, so keep your smart backside comments to yourself.

Thanks

[johnny Cash]

I can’t understand why a grown man can sit on a keyboard typing things without actually doing something themselves, but each to their own. I think you are wrong also, you’re not the oracle of all business.

As for the grown men bit, I would have thought it would have been painfully obvious that its exposure in the media that is required. You don’t know me, and believe me I’ve no interest in knowing you ever, but I do know I’m trying to help the club I love. Might get some things wrong occasionally, but I’m trying. I’ve sacrificed more than you will ever know doing this, so keep your smart backside comments to yourself.

Thanks

It was you who started with the 'I can’t for the life of me work out why people sit on a keyboard, saying this won’t work, that won’t work' in direct response to me.  Then repeated it. So if you leave out those type of comments, so will I. 

However yet again you get your knickers in a twist.  I did not suggest I the oracle of business, I pointed out you've been pulled up when saying things that are factually incorrect.

[Dexy]

Lads , can we calm down a bit please.
We all want the best for the club at the end of the day and rid of Lai , I think we can all agree on that .
Agree to disagree and move on.

[SmethDan]

Mobile phones at ten paces and have a shine off  .

[NJS]

Sedgley,
I hope you understand that while I have been sceptical of the potential effectiveness of A4A's attempts to put any pressure on the distant Lai but never disparaging.  As long as A4A's efforts did not transfer onto our own players, I was quite OK to wait and see how much of an influence you could have.

I think that i paper article shows A4A has done extremely well in raising the issue. 

This site has also helped in that its contributor have  clarified some issues regarding the ownership of Group vs Holdings and explained  some technical details of the main 3 loans.

[johnny Cash]

Mobile phones at ten paces and have a shine off  .

  Just not at 3.12 tomrrow or it will be very confusing.

I’m not wound up.

There’s story’s in the press about the club I support and how some fans are involving (lobbying, talking whatever you want to call it) government at various levels. I have every right on a this forum to say what I did, which is that don’t think the government will do anything that affects our ownership situation. 

A4A and their rep has  every right to debate that if they want to. I just don’t think. ‘ at least we are doing something’ is always a strong argument

[baggiejohn]

Just not at 3.12 tomrrow or it will be very confusing.

I’m not wound up.

There’s story’s in the press about the club I support and how some fans are involving (lobbying, talking whatever you want to call it) government at various levels. I have every right on a this forum to say what I did, which is that don’t think the government will do anything that affects our ownership situation. 

A4A and their rep has  every right to debate that if they want to. I just don’t think. ‘ at least we are doing something’ is always a strong argument

I agree with your interpretation that future cultural change won't effect our current position.

I also applaud the energy & enthusiasm that A4A & particularly Sedgley, have put into their campaign.


From historical conversations, I know there are a number of forum members who are professional finance specialists, some of whom have challenged A4A's interpretations of WBAFC & WBAFC Group Finances. I'm not sure the responses to those challenges have won A4A too many friends.

[SedgleyAlbion]

I agree with your interpretation that future cultural change won't effect our current position.

I also applaud the energy & enthusiasm that A4A & particularly Sedgley, have put into their campaign.


From historical conversations, I know there are a number of forum members who are professional finance specialists, some of whom have challenged A4A's interpretations of WBAFC & WBAFC Group Finances. I'm not sure the responses to those challenges have won A4A too many friends.

Got no problem in being challenged, I’ve never processed to be an expert. I appreciate help and advice.

Maybe our responses haven’t won too many friends, but walk a mile in another man’s shoes first. Me and the other volunteers have given countless hours, sometimes at our own expense to try to help. When we get ‘what good is that going to do’ time and again it gets frustrating.

Getting political help we believe can make a tangible difference, in some ways far more than mass protests can.

Dexy is right. We all want the same thing. Apologies for any offence I’ve caused.

[johnny Cash]

I agree with your interpretation that future cultural change won't effect our current position.

I also applaud the energy & enthusiasm that A4A & particularly Sedgley, have put into their campaign.


From historical conversations, I know there are a number of forum members who are professional finance specialists, some of whom have challenged A4A's interpretations of WBAFC & WBAFC Group Finances. I'm not sure the responses to those challenges have won A4A too many friends.

They’ve done a really good job of raising awareness and getting press to be fair and maybe I should acknowledge that because I do always seem to be critical of them.

However normally an awareness campaign is for a reason. Public support forcing action,  or awareness leading to research, or donations. Once people are aware in this case, then what?  Surely there has to be something that awareness leads to?

I also understand why they get annoyed and bite but the tone is poor at times and quite sanctimonious. Like fans who aren’t with them are lesser supporters, which is what they got stick for suggesting when they said something at a match about walking by means people don’t care. 

Saying things like well you must know more than forensic accounts, when someone like overseas corrects them and clearly understand this stuff does alienate too.

I would love to understand what they want to achieve but more than that and for them to be able to affect real change.

[johnny Cash]

Got no problem in being challenged, I’ve never processed to be an expert. I appreciate help and advice.

Maybe our responses haven’t won too many friends, but walk a mile in another man’s shoes first. Me and the other volunteers have given countless hours, sometimes at our own expense to try to help. When we get ‘what good is that going to do’ time and again it gets frustrating.

Getting political help we believe can make a tangible difference, in some ways far more than mass protests can.

Dexy is right. We all want the same thing. Apologies for any offence I’ve caused.

I apologise if I get the tone wrong too and frustrate. I genuinely don’t question your effort or motive. I ask question and comment on here in the hope to get debate to be honest hope someone will point out something I’m missing. 

We do just have a different opinion on what will result.

[ex coseley kid]

Sedgley, who knows what will work.

Whatever, I applaud you for giving it your all. Don't stop. The more publicity the better, this game has been utterly wrecked by greedy people.

[Dexy]

Sedgley, who knows what will work.

Whatever, I applaud you for giving it your all. Don't stop. The more publicity the better, this game has been utterly wrecked by greedy people.

Always looked on in pity at other clubs in a mess  , I never thought it would be us one day.

[SedgleyAlbion]

They’ve done a really good job of raising awareness and getting press to be fair and maybe I should acknowledge that because I do always seem to be critical of them.

However normally an awareness campaign is for a reason. Public support forcing action,  or awareness leading to research, or donations. Once people are aware in this case, then what?  Surely there has to be something that awareness leads to?

I also understand why they get annoyed and bite but the tone is poor at times and quite sanctimonious. Like fans who aren’t with them are lesser supporters, which is what they got stick for suggesting when they said something at a match about walking by means people don’t care. 

Saying things like well you must know more than forensic accounts, when someone like overseas corrects them and clearly understand this stuff does alienate too.

I would love to understand what they want to achieve but more than that and for them to be able to affect real change.

I agree with a lot of your post. Especially the criticism regarding people walking past and our members criticising. That was absolutely wrong and I personally went on WM to apologise.

As for the accountancy part, I think it’s human nature, when you feel that someone is having a pop, you have one back, like your jibe about grown men holding a letter.

To me, the bottom line should be we all want the same thing, and in the main, we’ve done a pretty good job. Not perfect, but I think we’ve actually helped to move us closer to get rid of this terrible ownership.

How about us drawing a line under it and moving on? I’m willing

[johnny Cash]

I agree with a lot of your post. Especially the criticism regarding people walking past and our members criticising. That was absolutely wrong and I personally went on WM to apologise.

As for the accountancy part, I think it’s human nature, when you feel that someone is having a pop, you have one back, like your jibe about grown men holding a letter.

To me, the bottom line should be we all want the same thing, and in the main, we’ve done a pretty good job. Not perfect, but I think we’ve actually helped to move us closer to get rid of this terrible ownership.

How about us drawing a line under it and moving on? I’m willing

So am I. As I said I don’t question the effort or motive. 

[BalisPen]

Andy Street has helped facilitate the sales of Blues and Coventry, surely that’s worth a try. I can’t for the life of me work out why people sit on a keyboard, saying this won’t work, that won’t work.

I’ve got off my backside and tried to do something, anything, I possibly can to try to help save our club. I tell you one thing, I’d rather keep trying and what you see as failing than just sit at a screen bitching about it.

It might not get anywhere, you’re right. But at least I and we have tried.

Rant over 🤣

Keep up the good work mate.

Don't let the haters who can't be bothered to do anything get you down.

Especially those they think they know everything Albion until they are shown they don't.

You are absolutely right to lobby  the politicians and get the word out there.

I know that if they want to they can pass any law they want if they can get a few votes.

When the European super league clubs announced they were off the government were to propose legislation to make it very difficult for them to do it.

Off topic, but the cladding scandal has seen them bring in laws retrospectively holding builders accountable for defects that weren't defects when the buildings were built, as they were compliant  with the standards of the day.

So, you just don't know what can happen, if anything at all.

However, we all do know what will happen if we do nothing at all.

All the best of luck for whatever you plan next to get Lai out.

[tex]

Wonder what his plan is, if he fails to sell soon he could lose everything.

[WBAinDEVON]

if there's anything left when this man has left our club i will celebrate like winning a cup

[halifax_baggie]

Wonder what his plan is, if he fails to sell soon he could lose everything.

Simple plan, reduce debt, reduce operating costs, this means doing anything and everything to reduce expenditure and maximise income for cash flow. sales of any assets to be expected. this is plan A B C ........

[Droitwich Baggie]

Will J. Peace buy us off him? He'd make a nice profit.