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« Reply #8800 on: January 20, 2023, 11:06:34 AM »
Maybe you should have read it properly the first time then, as then you wouldn't have wasted your time  mentioning  the Queen and how memories vary or whatever it was, when clearly I had said we had tried to sign Rom.

Treading water?

OK, if you say so.

Personally, I would have said we were primed to kick, if we had the board led by baldy wasn't so pathetic at most things, including recruitment.

Rom to sick vic was like going from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Regarding the it's easy spending other people's you said, mor me, I don't have problem with giving their opinion who they think needs signing.

You, still haven't answered the question though, if not then, when would be the right time in your eyes to invest in a 20 year old striker who had just scored 16 in his first season in the prem and stop buying terrible unproven players like Brown or sick nobodies like sick vic?

I was gutted when Lukaku didn't re-sign but the reality is that Everton were a more attractive option for him; they were a bigger club with more financial fire power. Could Jeremy Peace have done more to get the deal done? Maybe, we will never know, but I not surprised we got gazumped, which reflected our position in the Premier League pecking order.

Maybe move the topic back onto the current owner who JP lumbered us with? That was his worst crime.

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« Reply #8801 on: January 20, 2023, 11:26:37 AM »
Doesn't look like the loan is going to be repaid any time soon then, nor the inherited loan that Peace lumbered him with. Remind me someone, what is the latest £20 million pound loan meant to be for?

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« Reply #8802 on: January 20, 2023, 02:24:32 PM »
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« Reply #8803 on: January 20, 2023, 03:06:50 PM »
I was gutted when Lukaku didn't re-sign but the reality is that Everton were a more attractive option for him; they were a bigger club with more financial fire power. Could Jeremy Peace have done more to get the deal done? Maybe, we will never know, but I not surprised we got gazumped, which reflected our position in the Premier League pecking order.

Maybe move the topic back onto the current owner who JP lumbered us with? That was his worst crime.

At that time Lukaku would have been an ambitious man. Doubt very much he would have stayed. We provided him with a stepping which he took.

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« Reply #8804 on: January 20, 2023, 03:15:05 PM »
the book that Goldberg is writing on this is going to be one hell of a complex and horrible read isn't it

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« Reply #8805 on: January 20, 2023, 03:33:26 PM »
Do not read if of a nervous disposition  :o

https://adriangoldberg.substack.com/p/albions-latest-chinese-puzzle?sd=pf

So does Lai actually own anything. Can’t see anything in the story to give me any comfort whatsoever that the loan will be repaid. Smoke and glass.

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« Reply #8806 on: January 20, 2023, 05:39:59 PM »
Do not read if of a nervous disposition  :o

https://adriangoldberg.substack.com/p/albions-latest-chinese-puzzle?sd=pf

I'm sure the financial specialists on the forum will correct me if I'm wrong, but, as I understand it, there isn't a single company database in China.
Hong Kong is one of many, normally identified by region or City.

Yunyi Guokai (Shanghai) Sports Development Limited, is registered in Shanghai, & Palm Eco town in Guangzhou.

Not saying, Goldberg is wrong, but I would have thought Wisdom Smart would have been registered in either Shanghai or Guangzhou.
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« Reply #8807 on: January 20, 2023, 06:45:01 PM »
I'm sure the financial specialists on the forum will correct me if I'm wrong, but, as I understand it, there isn't a single company database in China.
Hong Kong is one of many, normally identified by region or City.

Yunyi Guokai (Shanghai) Sports Development Limited, is registered in Shanghai, & Palm Eco town in Guangzhou.

Not saying, Goldberg is wrong, but I would have thought Wisdom Smart would have been registered in either Shanghai or Guangzhou.

Hong Kong and the many Chinese provinces all have separate company registries.

Wisdom Smart is 100% a Hong Kong company.

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« Reply #8808 on: January 30, 2023, 01:34:05 PM »
I assume the money isn't coming for our January transfer window? I'm sure he promised we would get it >:(

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« Reply #8809 on: January 30, 2023, 01:41:08 PM »
I assume the money isn't coming for our January transfer window? I'm sure he promised we would get it >:(

We got the 20m in the bank. As Ron is so confident Lai is repaying it we just use other 5m allocated for transfers now

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« Reply #8810 on: January 30, 2023, 05:22:22 PM »
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The upturn in the global economy has brought with it greater positivity and I can confirm I will repay the loan in full, with interest, by the end of the current calendar year and the funds will be available to the club during the January 2023 transfer window," Lai said

What a chancer this guy is. Disgraceful. >:( >:(
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« Reply #8811 on: January 30, 2023, 07:03:32 PM »
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The upturn in the global economy has brought with it greater positivity and I can confirm I will repay the loan in full, with interest, by the end of the current calendar year and the funds will be available to the club during the January 2023 transfer window," Lai said

What a chancer this guy is. Disgraceful. >:( >:(

I agree 99%.

The 1% I am reserving is on the basis that Lai has / is paying the money back and the club do not want to announce that until the transfer window has closed to avoid tipping the other clubs and agents that we have a bit more money to utilise.

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« Reply #8812 on: January 30, 2023, 07:06:57 PM »
I agree 99%.

The 1% I am reserving is on the basis that Lai has / is paying the money back and the club do not want to announce that until the transfer window has closed to avoid tipping the other clubs and agents that we have a bit more money to utilise.

Ron already stated we have the 20m in the bank though so any club worth it's weight will be aware of that.

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« Reply #8813 on: January 30, 2023, 07:09:17 PM »
Ron already stated we have the 20m in the bank though so any club worth it's weight will be aware of that.

Yes, but at least the club have the excuse that is for day to day operating costs.

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« Reply #8814 on: January 30, 2023, 07:10:18 PM »
Yes, but at least the club have the excuse that is for day to day operating costs.

What a state we have become under Lai if that's how we work now.

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« Reply #8815 on: January 31, 2023, 01:21:23 PM »
This £20m for running costs - When would it run out? End of this season, or would it cover wages for next season too? If it only covers until the end of this season, where are we next season, with no parachute payments, and a £20m loan to be paid? Is it Fire sale time?

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« Reply #8816 on: January 31, 2023, 04:24:07 PM »
This £20m for running costs - When would it run out? End of this season, or would it cover wages for next season too? If it only covers until the end of this season, where are we next season, with no parachute payments, and a £20m loan to be paid? Is it Fire sale time?

I suspect it basically replaces the parachute payment money if we don't get promoted next year. No reason why we should have a large hole in our accounts at this stage given our meagre spending and wage cutting over the last several seasons. The wage bill is due to be slashed in the summer anyway when a few high earners are out of contract.

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« Reply #8817 on: January 31, 2023, 05:25:58 PM »
Serious question - are the club able to confiscate banners at games, if they are made? Are there any nebulous health and safety grounds that prevent fans from being able to bring out the bedsheets?

Direct messages need to be written/printed and the protests (responsibly) escalated. Have advocated for a long time, the public shaming and embarrassing of Lai. Pleasantries will get us nowhere.

Messages in dual language - English and Chinese and tipping off the local and national media ahead of unfurling them so they can get good shots.

The wittier, more cutting and acerbic the better.

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« Reply #8818 on: January 31, 2023, 05:27:09 PM »
Serious question - are the club able to confiscate banners at games, if they are made? Are there any nebulous health and safety grounds that prevent fans from being able to bring out the bedsheets?

Direct messages need to be written/printed and the protests (responsibly) escalated. Have advocated for a long time, the public shaming and embarrassing of Lai. Pleasantries will get us nowhere.

Messages in dual language - English and Chinese and tipping off the local and national media ahead of unfurling them so they can get good shots.

The wittier, more cutting and acerbic the better.

I just think they refuse to let them in as standard?

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« Reply #8819 on: January 31, 2023, 05:36:16 PM »
Serious question - are the club able to confiscate banners at games, if they are made? Are there any nebulous health and safety grounds that prevent fans from being able to bring out the bedsheets?

Direct messages need to be written/printed and the protests (responsibly) escalated. Have advocated for a long time, the public shaming and embarrassing of Lai. Pleasantries will get us nowhere.

Messages in dual language - English and Chinese and tipping off the local and national media ahead of unfurling them so they can get good shots.

The wittier, more cutting and acerbic the better.
id imagine anything with Chinese will be confiscated solely because stewards won’t know what it says. For banners in general, under the entry to stadium terms, it says the below won’t be allowed:-

”8.2 any flags or banners larger than those maximum dimensions permitted by the Club from time to time (or, in the absence of such stipulations, 2 metres x 1 metre) and/or of an offensive nature”

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« Reply #8820 on: February 01, 2023, 08:22:57 PM »
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”8.2 any flags or banners larger than those maximum dimensions permitted by the Club from time to time (or, in the absence of such stipulations, 2 metres x 1 metre) and/or of an offensive nature”[/b]

So put one letter per 2 metre x 1 metre banner and spell it out loud and proud!  ;D
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« Reply #8821 on: February 01, 2023, 10:23:26 PM »
So put one letter per 2 metre x 1 metre banner and spell it out loud and proud!  ;D

what about one large letter printed on a white T-shirt and then everyone stands together to spell it out to him & the TV, cant confiscate your clothes and wouldn't check on the turnstile.  would take some organising but its possible

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« Reply #8822 on: February 16, 2023, 06:52:26 PM »
Bet he would struggle to pay the interest on the loan. Nevermind the loan itself.

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« Reply #8823 on: February 16, 2023, 07:08:23 PM »
Wheres this 5 mate. You did say early in the new year.

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« Reply #8824 on: February 16, 2023, 10:26:09 PM »
A totally "nowhere man"