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« Reply #7075 on: May 24, 2021, 08:44:06 AM »
He is a "nowhere man" with no ideas.

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« Reply #7076 on: May 24, 2021, 09:08:03 AM »
Championship football club finances look horrific!  It is not sustainable and i know league one and two clubs got very close to wage caps recently, but surely even the championship will end up with one at some point.


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« Reply #7077 on: May 24, 2021, 09:24:41 AM »
He is a "nowhere man" with no ideas.

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« Reply #7078 on: May 24, 2021, 09:28:24 AM »
The silence from this clown is deafening.
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« Reply #7079 on: May 24, 2021, 09:36:05 AM »
Guochuan  was always going to be a silent partner except for cross-branding with his Chinese businesses.  He is totally reliant on the UK management for footballing expertise.  It's generally a good thing when the chairman does not interfere in such matters. 

Ken just seems to be an interface.

Thus the club solely relies on its UK board and its director of football for playing the game of association football.  Guochuan, being a rookie owner,  possibly thinks that changing head coaches is the answer and keeps pressing Dowling for answers.  Surely at some point he will realise that LD is coming up with the wrong answers?
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« Reply #7080 on: May 24, 2021, 10:11:10 AM »
The silence from this clown is deafening.

Why would he comment? He made his intentions clear from day one that it was business as usual and he would continue to be based in China.

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« Reply #7081 on: May 24, 2021, 10:33:00 AM »
Has he gone yet?

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« Reply #7082 on: May 24, 2021, 11:16:09 AM »
Guochuan  was always going to be a silent partner except for cross-branding with his Chinese businesses.  He is totally reliant on the UK management for footballing expertise.  It's generally a good thing when the chairman does not interfere in such matters. 

Ken just seems to be an interface.

Thus the club solely relies on its UK board and its director of football for playing the game of association football.  Guochuan, being a rookie owner,  possibly thinks that changing head coaches is the answer and keeps pressing Dowling for answers.  Surely at some point he will realise that LD is coming up with the wrong answers?

Couple of points:

GL isn't the chairman, Li Piyue is

GL is a shareholder with a controlling interest. It's Li Piyue's job to look after the interests of the shareholders.

Ken is Chief Executive Officer, in old money, Managing Director.


The board of directors, listed at Companies House, consists of Li Piyue, Ken & Mark Miles.

Luke Dowling, although having the word director in his job title, is listed on the WBAFC website as part of the management team.

Returning to GL's input into the running of the club, I'd say he doesn't get involved much in the day to day, but has a massive say on strategies & policy.

The one question I'd want answered is:

Under Lai's ownership we've changed head coaches & different playing styles numerous times. In that time we've accumulated players who suit one playing style but not another, so are, in effect, redundant.

I'm not sure how much that policy has cost the club, but in the case of Olli Burke, we lost around £13 million.

So, although changing coaches mid term might give us a short term fix, apart from Pulis, the strategy doesn't appear to be sustainable.

Wouldn't it be a good idea, to formulate an identity for WBAFC, & then work on a series of strategies & tactics to achieve that?

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« Reply #7083 on: May 24, 2021, 01:10:19 PM »
so much for the reports that he was selling and the price was just a matter of which division we are in, and the new owners wanted Allardyce. Looks like we are stuck with him for a while.

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« Reply #7084 on: May 24, 2021, 05:38:26 PM »
According to Chris Lepkowski, Henry Pu is taking over as our finance director from Lee Cooper who is leaving. Henry Pu is currently the senior finance director at Fosun Group and head of finance at wolves! Interesting development.

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« Reply #7085 on: May 24, 2021, 05:52:31 PM »
Why would he comment? He made his intentions clear from day one that it was business as usual and he would continue to be based in China.

Surely the owner of the club should at least release a simple statement regarding our direction of travel? Is it acceptable as a shareholder (I am not by the way, thanks Jez) to just ‘let him get on with it’ for 3 years with no communication?
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« Reply #7086 on: May 24, 2021, 05:58:07 PM »
Surely the owner of the club should at least release a simple statement regarding our direction of travel?......

Probably realises telling us we've gone down would be stating the obvious  ;D .
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« Reply #7087 on: May 24, 2021, 06:04:38 PM »
Probably realises telling us we've gone down would be stating the obvious  ;D .

I do feel making any kind of statement is a lose/lose for him (them).
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« Reply #7088 on: May 24, 2021, 06:55:17 PM »
According to Chris Lepkowski, Henry Pu is taking over as our finance director from Lee Cooper who is leaving. Henry Pu is currently the senior finance director at Fosun Group and head of finance at wolves! Interesting development.

If there is truth in this then you would think something happening in either a takeover or money being invested as hes been at Fosun since 2013.

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« Reply #7089 on: May 24, 2021, 06:56:53 PM »
According to Chris Lepkowski, Henry Pu is taking over as our finance director from Lee Cooper who is leaving. Henry Pu is currently the senior finance director at Fosun Group and head of finance at wolves! Interesting development.

He did say that on the podcast didn't he?

If it's the same Henry Pu, could be interesting.
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« Reply #7090 on: May 24, 2021, 07:20:05 PM »
Big backward step surely from Senior Finance director at a group of Fosun's size to whoever owns us, at face value a very strange development.
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« Reply #7091 on: May 24, 2021, 08:19:15 PM »
Big backward step surely from Senior Finance director at a group of Fosun's size to whoever owns us, at face value a very strange development.

It's possible under company law to be a director of more than one company. In theory he could hold positions at Fosun, WWFC & WBAFC.

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« Reply #7092 on: May 24, 2021, 08:43:31 PM »
It's possible under company law to be a director of more than one company. In theory he could hold positions at Fosun, WWFC & WBAFC.

Good point, I do hope and pray that the inbreds owners aren't looking to expand their football empire via us.
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« Reply #7093 on: May 24, 2021, 09:05:04 PM »
If it is this guy he’s pretty well qualified with a decent cv head of finance at fosun etc. Why would he come here seems like a strange move to me .

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« Reply #7094 on: May 24, 2021, 09:20:52 PM »
All might not be well at Fosun?

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« Reply #7095 on: May 24, 2021, 09:31:26 PM »
Big backward step surely from Senior Finance director at a group of Fosun's size to whoever owns us, at face value a very strange development.

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« Reply #7096 on: May 24, 2021, 09:34:44 PM »
Nuno to Albion, If you can't beat em join em? ;D

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« Reply #7097 on: May 24, 2021, 09:42:55 PM »
Good point, I do hope and pray that the inbreds owners aren't looking to expand their football empire via us.

If you turn that from a negative to a positive thought, they might be ploughing in some cash to make us more saleable.
Saves face for GL, gets us a new owner win-win all round.

Henry's in place to look after their interests.

Purely conjecture of course.
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« Reply #7098 on: May 25, 2021, 09:28:28 AM »
If you turn that from a negative to a positive thought, they might be ploughing in some cash to make us more saleable.
Saves face for GL, gets us a new owner win-win all round.

Henry's in place to look after their interests.

Purely conjecture of course.

You seem to be suggesting that the dogheads are reciprocating for our buckets inside/outside the ground with a Financial investment by the huge conglomerate Fosun,  i know its puerile by me, but I enjoy the fact (and reminding them of it) we kept them in existence via a bucket collection far too much to have them reverse the situation.  Pheck em
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« Reply #7099 on: May 25, 2021, 11:39:34 AM »
I'm not happy with this Fosen/Wolves connection what's it all about?
The cynic in me is suspicious
You don't think that they are trying to merge us into WBAWW?
With a new stadium built in between with a 60k seater?
 Perish the thought!