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« Reply #4100 on: August 19, 2016, 12:48:01 AM »
No, you are not to assume any such thing.  Did I suggest that?  No I did not.  I was referring to the injection of EXTRA cash to help fund a spending spree.  Please do keep up with the programme.

You know as well as I do that a £16m outlay on Sakho would have triggered an immediate sale of Berahino.  You also know that we have already sold Chester - that's what would have funded Schlupp, but the price kept going up, and we then slowed down. That money from Chester is obviously still available.

What I said was that we are currently restricted to buying players on a matched basis with players being sold.  Everything that is (not) going on supports that.

We aren't, money is clearly available. The club doesn't have to spend profit it can spend turnover, which in turn affects profit. We got about £6 million for Chester. Not enough to fund the Schlupp offer....

Moreover in your example, how could we pay West Ham before we'd sold Berahino, it would have to be the other way round...?
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« Reply #4101 on: August 19, 2016, 01:08:37 AM »
We aren't, money is clearly available. The club doesn't have to spend profit it can spend turnover, which in turn affects profit. We got about £6 million for Chester. Not enough to fund the Schlupp offer....

Moreover in your example, how could we pay West Ham before we'd sold Berahino, it would have to be the other way round...?

In what way is money CLEARLY available?   Nothing clear about it at present.

Chester was apparently £6m plus add-ons.  The Schlupp offer was apparently £8m plus add-ons. Not a big difference.

You are splitting hairs.  A day or two in terms of timing is neither here nor there.  We could have committed to pay Sakho for £16m, knowing that we could cover it by selling Berahino straight away for at least that amount.

I rest my case. 




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« Reply #4102 on: August 19, 2016, 01:34:51 AM »
Will the new owner get a good reception at the ground on Saturday? And does anyone know the Chinese for any chance of spending some money in transfer market, could get chant going

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« Reply #4103 on: August 19, 2016, 03:20:23 AM »
In what way is money CLEARLY available?   Nothing clear about it at present.

Chester was apparently £6m plus add-ons.  The Schlupp offer was apparently £8m plus add-ons. Not a big difference.

You are splitting hairs.  A day or two in terms of timing is neither here nor there.  We could have committed to pay Sakho for £16m, knowing that we could cover it by selling Berahino straight away for at least that amount.

I rest my case.

How is this discussing still at this point?

Businesses (and yes we are one) are sold all the time, money does not just disappear. We would have considerable funds in the bank as well as a solid line of credit. There is nothing at all but pure speculation being passed as fact that we have to wait before we can spend. If our cash flow was that desperate we would be struggling to match our 5 million pounds a month wage bill.

The evidence on show (the bids for Slimani, Schlupp and Sakho) does not suggest we are waiting to sell. It suggests we are bidding, but not completing deals.




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« Reply #4104 on: August 19, 2016, 07:11:45 AM »
How is this discussing still at this point?

Businesses (and yes we are one) are sold all the time, money does not just disappear. We would have considerable funds in the bank as well as a solid line of credit. There is nothing at all but pure speculation being passed as fact that we have to wait before we can spend. If our cash flow was that desperate we would be struggling to match our 5 million pounds a month wage bill.

The evidence on show (the bids for Slimani, Schlupp and Sakho) does not suggest we are waiting to sell. It suggests we are bidding, but not completing deals.

Has it occurred to you that our cash flow for salaries is well covered by our existing budget but that cash flow for additional signings isn't actually there yet?  Suddenly finding an extra £20m to £30m for signing 5 new players without player sales is not straightforward if neither the incoming owner or the outgoing owner are in a position to cover it. 



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« Reply #4105 on: August 19, 2016, 08:24:06 AM »
Has it occurred to you that our cash flow for salaries is well covered by our existing budget but that cash flow for additional signings isn't actually there yet?  Suddenly finding an extra £20m to £30m for signing 5 new players without player sales is not straightforward if neither the incoming owner or the outgoing owner are in a position to cover it.

Not wishing to interject on a lovers quarrel, but do you seriously think that JP would not have forseen the scenario you describe?

Time after time JP has declared his wish for the change in ownership to be in the absolute best interests of the football club, it looks as though he has delivered that.

It's a scientific & geographical fact that the higher you go, the more rarefied the atmosphere becomes. In the same way, the options for quality of player we are after now, becomes less, which in turn makes negotiations that more difficult. IMO it's that which is causing the delay, rather than any financial anomoly.
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« Reply #4106 on: August 19, 2016, 08:31:48 AM »
Not wishing to interject on a lovers quarrel, but do you seriously think that JP would not have forseen the scenario you describe?

Time after time JP has declared his wish for the change in ownership to be in the absolute best interests of the football club, it looks as though he has delivered that.

It's a scientific & geographical fact that the higher you go, the more rarefied the atmosphere becomes. In the same way, the options for quality of player we are after now, becomes less, which in turn makes negotiations that more difficult. IMO it's that which is causing the delay, rather than any financial anomoly.

I respect your opinion.  You may well be right.  I'm sticking with my opinion though.  I don't think anybody anticipated the current regulatory delay. 

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« Reply #4107 on: August 19, 2016, 10:45:20 AM »
Still hoping Mr Lai will greet the fans tomorrow with a marquee signing at his side.

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« Reply #4108 on: August 19, 2016, 10:48:17 AM »
Still hoping Mr Lai will greet the fans tomorrow with a marquee signing at his side.

Great, I can see it now.

We need new players and he walks out with a fkn tent in his hand  :)  ;) .
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« Reply #4109 on: August 19, 2016, 10:59:51 AM »
Great, I can see it now.

We need new players and he walks out with a fkn tent in his hand  :)  ;) .

Spilling was never my finest subject :o
by the way you aren't Mr smith from Churchfield's comprehensive me old English teacher are you.  ;)

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« Reply #4110 on: August 19, 2016, 11:14:18 AM »
Great, I can see it now.

We need new players and he walks out with a fkn tent in his hand  :)  ;) .

New signing for the fanzone?

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« Reply #4111 on: August 19, 2016, 11:15:54 AM »
Still hoping Mr Lai will greet the fans tomorrow with a marquee signing at his side.
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« Reply #4112 on: August 19, 2016, 11:17:35 AM »
whats the weather for tomorrow, is it going to rain on his parade
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« Reply #4113 on: August 19, 2016, 11:20:44 AM »
whats the weather for tomorrow, is it going to rain on his parade
Windy and wet.
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« Reply #4114 on: August 19, 2016, 11:31:32 AM »
Windy and wet.

That marquee will come in handy then...... ;D
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« Reply #4115 on: August 19, 2016, 11:42:48 AM »
That marquee will come in handy then...... ;D

...... when he 'pitches' up......
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« Reply #4116 on: August 19, 2016, 01:06:44 PM »
...... when he 'pitches' up......

I'm glad to have brightened up your dad & skyclad99 to.

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« Reply #4117 on: August 19, 2016, 01:08:53 PM »
Great, I can see it now.

We need new players and he walks out with a fkn tent in his hand  :)  ;) .


Fantastic, can we have a spelling correction thread, been waiting for this for ages "Baggiejohn" O level English Language  ;D
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« Reply #4118 on: August 19, 2016, 01:44:33 PM »
I'm glad to have brightened up your dad & skyclad99 to.

Thank you very much Geoff and please accept my apologies for any upset caused  :) .
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« Reply #4119 on: August 19, 2016, 01:56:22 PM »
Assume that until authorised by FA etc the club is still owned and run by Peace.

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« Reply #4120 on: August 19, 2016, 02:17:20 PM »
Has it occurred to you that our cash flow for salaries is well covered by our existing budget but that cash flow for additional signings isn't actually there yet?  Suddenly finding an extra £20m to £30m for signing 5 new players without player sales is not straightforward if neither the incoming owner or the outgoing owner are in a position to cover it.
Pulis's comments today suggest that your interpretation is incorrect: "The situation with the takeover is the chairman is still the major shareholder but it’s just a matter of time until it’s completed. The Chinese are over for tomorrow’s game and as far as I’m concerned it’s absolutely full steam ahead."

When he was asked if that wait for approval was stalling any transfer business, Pulis said: "No, not at all. We’re working hard behind the scenes and hoping to bring in the players we want. It takes a bit of time but we’’ll do our business very quietly and try and do signings without anyone knowing. It takes time, we’ve got another 10 days, plenty of time."

Source: Express & Star

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« Reply #4121 on: August 19, 2016, 02:19:16 PM »
Thank you very much Geoff and please accept my apologies for any upset caused  :) .

Likewise Geoff, spelling is not my strongest point either. I knew what you meant but SmethDan just cracked me up....its just the image it conjured up.

No offence intended and thank you for making me laugh.........there aren't too many of those on this site at the moment
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« Reply #4122 on: August 19, 2016, 02:27:29 PM »
Likewise Geoff, spelling is not my strongest point either. I knew what you meant but SmethDan just cracked me up....its just the image it conjured up.
I'm not sure why people have picked Geoff up for it, as his use of "marquee signing" was correct both in terms of meaning and spelling!

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« Reply #4123 on: August 19, 2016, 02:40:59 PM »
I'm not sure why people have picked Geoff up for it, as his use of "marquee signing" was correct both in terms of meaning and spelling!

 ;D You must have cheated or was it was it just luck has Mr Smith would have said & 10 out of 10

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« Reply #4124 on: August 19, 2016, 03:32:05 PM »
I'm not sure why people have picked Geoff up for it, as his use of "marquee signing" was correct both in terms of meaning and spelling!

Pretty sure it was to lighten the mood...  The first suggestion of misspelling came from Geoff himself.
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