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« Reply #2050 on: June 18, 2016, 09:59:11 PM »
Indy kila or something has been tweeting tonight that a Chinese takeover is close. Maybe bull. There's no actual link to any story anywhere. But him and tom ross now. Hopefully something may be happening.

That bloke is famously a KFC worker who shoots a thousand arrows into the sky, one hits and then he retweets it endlessly. If you put Indy Kaila liar into tweet you get a good parody account.

Fair play though, for a KFC worker he has alot of followers.
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« Reply #2051 on: June 19, 2016, 06:50:02 AM »
Daily mail reporting it as well now!

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« Reply #2052 on: June 19, 2016, 08:08:21 AM »
Daily mail reporting it as well now!
just read the report, no smoke without fire maybe something is happening.

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« Reply #2053 on: June 19, 2016, 08:54:08 AM »
Ask yourself of all the journalists in all the world that would know about a takeover or anything significant about anything would it be a random click bait merchant working for the Mail on Line? Answer probably not he's taken the rumour off twitter the Berahino story and a few other known facts and spun a few hundred words and pictures.

The whole Berahino is an asset thing is a nonsense. If we sell him the cash is an asset if we use the cash to buy players they become an asset it makes no difference to the value of the club.

As ever the club regardless of takeover talks can trade normally it has to. The only issue that might be difficult to resolve with a takeover in the offing would be a significant appointment e.g. Head Coach or Director of  Football but even then a deal would have had to got the agreed in principal stage.

In the fevered world of click bait journalism there is quite often smoke without fire in fact there is often smoke with out any combustible materials. 
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« Reply #2054 on: June 19, 2016, 10:53:15 AM »
It's common knowledge that we will be sold and we most will.be in talks with potential buyers. The fact that Peace now resides in Jersey to avoid capital gains says it all. I'd say it's more likely we will be sold fairly soon than not based on the evidence.


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« Reply #2056 on: June 20, 2016, 09:26:57 AM »
Ask yourself of all the journalists in all the world that would know about a takeover or anything significant about anything would it be a random click bait merchant working for the Mail on Line? Answer probably not he's taken the rumour off twitter the Berahino story and a few other known facts and spun a few hundred words and pictures.

The whole Berahino is an asset thing is a nonsense. If we sell him the cash is an asset if we use the cash to buy players they become an asset it makes no difference to the value of the club.

As ever the club regardless of takeover talks can trade normally it has to. The only issue that might be difficult to resolve with a takeover in the offing would be a significant appointment e.g. Head Coach or Director of  Football but even then a deal would have had to got the agreed in principal stage.

In the fevered world of click bait journalism there is quite often smoke without fire in fact there is often smoke with out any combustible materials.

Smoke On The Water?  :D
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« Reply #2057 on: June 20, 2016, 10:18:28 AM »
Smoke On The Water?  :D

We are not at Montreux the casino is almost certainly not on fire although Greggs might have singed a batch of pasties. 8)

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« Reply #2058 on: June 20, 2016, 10:52:16 AM »
We are not at Montreux the casino is almost certainly not on fire although Greggs might have singed a batch of pasties. 8)

PS Very old Rockers reference younger readers don't need to worry about it

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« Reply #2059 on: June 20, 2016, 02:40:49 PM »
I noticed last night the chap from the Express & Star had followed up on the latest rumours and tweeted something along the lines of no takeover being imminent but Peace is still sounding out potential buyers as you would expect. To be fair after what happened last year I don't think the club would make any official comment until a deal is virtually agreed if not even done pending ratification from the authorities.

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« Reply #2060 on: June 20, 2016, 04:33:20 PM »
I noticed last night the chap from the Express & Star had followed up on the latest rumours and tweeted something along the lines of no takeover being imminent but Peace is still sounding out potential buyers as you would expect. To be fair after what happened last year I don't think the club would make any official comment until a deal is virtually agreed if not even done pending ratification from the authorities.

Quite naive on his part really to bother commenting on it. His sources will be within the club and like you say the club aren't going to confirm anything is going on behind the scenes and it's always going to be difficult to fish out any information close to the potential buyers. I have been informed by my usually reliable friend it could be done within 2-3 weeks it's not imminent but the checks are now on going and it is getting closer.

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« Reply #2061 on: June 20, 2016, 10:54:32 PM »
Daily mail saying we want roger burden from FA as chairman if chinese sale goes through. There's no way they could make that up surely? I think something is closer than is being let on here

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« Reply #2062 on: June 20, 2016, 11:14:13 PM »
Daily mail saying we want roger burden from FA as chairman if chinese sale goes through. There's no way they could make that up surely? I think something is closer than is being let on here

I've said it in here previously.  JP has undertaken "classic" tax planning of going non-resident (to Jersey) before the 5 April year end, in order to make a potentially tax-free capital gain in this current tax year (although he needs to spend 5 years resident abroad).  Given that his only real income source is from the club, with his financial profile it is the ONLY reason why he would have moved to Jersey.

A sale is clearly imminent, although of course it could fall through in which case JP can return to England and go abroad again next March to try again.

I did hear from a mate in Jersey that JP did in fact do exactly the same thing last year, and the anticipate Chinese deal fell through.  He seemingly bought his Jersey house well over a year ago.

Nothing is certain, but I'd say a sale this summer is a probability.


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« Reply #2063 on: June 20, 2016, 11:43:13 PM »
Daily mail saying we want roger burden from FA as chairman if chinese sale goes through. There's no way they could make that up surely? I think something is closer than is being let on here

It is close but the club won't let it known to people like Matt Wilson from the express and star. As you know the club don't like transfers to come out before they are official let alone a takeover bid.

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« Reply #2064 on: June 20, 2016, 11:46:03 PM »
It is close but the club won't let it known to people like Matt Wilson from the express and star. As you know the club don't like transfers to come out before they are official let alone a takeover bid.

It this actually going to happen this time? In someways I wish this thread was locked till something factual came out

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« Reply #2065 on: June 21, 2016, 12:06:54 AM »
It is close but the club won't let it known to people like Matt Wilson from the express and star. As you know the club don't like transfers to come out before they are official let alone a takeover bid.

But they would let it known to your mate?
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« Reply #2066 on: June 21, 2016, 12:22:16 AM »
It is close but the club won't let it known to people like Matt Wilson from the express and star. As you know the club don't like transfers to come out before they are official let alone a takeover bid.

And yet you seem to know...
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« Reply #2067 on: June 21, 2016, 12:37:58 AM »
And yet you seem to know...

That made me smile Jacko, well played.

A non UK takeover would make me very nervous. I think the stats show it becomes a 1 in 20 chance it'll work out 5 years from now?!
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« Reply #2068 on: June 21, 2016, 12:52:24 AM »
That made me smile Jacko, well played.

A non UK takeover would make me very nervous. I think the stats show it becomes a 1 in 20 chance it'll work out 5 years from now?!
yeah but if your glass was half full we could be the next Leicester?

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« Reply #2069 on: June 21, 2016, 01:12:36 AM »
yeah but if your glass was half full we could be the next Leicester?

The half full, half empty approach gives the impression of an even debate, a balanced amount of evidence either way. Of the clubs WBA's size, only Leicester this past season have been brought by non Brits and has gone on do to well medium/long term.

The only one I can think of our size who have done decently to date  British owned wise are Stoke & they have been bankrolled in a way no longer allowed via FFP.

I'd gigantically love us to be brought out, for it to go well and for my boys to grow up supporting a team who wins things. Obviously I'd love that.

Blues, Blackburn, Wolves, Fulham, QPR, etc etc etc make me think otherwise.
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« Reply #2070 on: June 21, 2016, 07:36:26 AM »
Daily mail saying we want roger burden from FA as chairman if chinese sale goes through. There's no way they could make that up surely? I think something is closer than is being let on here

Not a coup really.
The bloke has to stand down from the FA next month because he's reached the mandatory retirement age of 70.
Add to that the fact he's no experience within a league club and it looks like a kick o the nuts to me!
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« Reply #2071 on: June 21, 2016, 07:58:55 AM »
The half full, half empty approach gives the impression of an even debate, a balanced amount of evidence either way. Of the clubs WBA's size, only Leicester this past season have been brought by non Brits and has gone on do to well medium/long term.

The only one I can think of our size who have done decently to date  British owned wise are Stoke & they have been bankrolled in a way no longer allowed via FFP.

I'd gigantically love us to be brought out, for it to go well and for my boys to grow up supporting a team who wins things. Obviously I'd love that.

Blues, Blackburn, Wolves, Fulham, QPR, etc etc etc make me think otherwise.
What about Southampton?
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« Reply #2072 on: June 21, 2016, 08:00:01 AM »
Given that his only real income source is from the club, with his financial profile it is the ONLY reason why he would have moved to Jersey.
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« Reply #2073 on: June 21, 2016, 12:07:46 PM »
What about Southampton?
I think it's not as simple as saying 'foreign owners are bad', but to be more specific I'd agree that the Saints owners seem great, albeit they are European. The same goes for Watford, again it's European ownership.

My concern is that like the Indian owners of the past, the Chinese just don't understand football culture and will invest poorly in comparison to British/European owners who understand how running a football club works.

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« Reply #2074 on: June 21, 2016, 12:11:01 PM »
Maybe the EU vote will have a part to play here
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