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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3950 on: September 11, 2024, 10:32:12 PM »
Looks like another leaving for elsewhere according to WBA Report on Twitter/ X -.

U15 midfielder Jayden Kouossu has reportedly agreed to join Newcastle following trials with Fulham and Chelsea saying his goodbyes via Instagram yesterday.

Kouossou spent 8 years in the Academy before recently departing.

Widely regarded as one of the best young midfielders in the country, he is already sponsored by Adidas

Am I right in thinking that we will get diddly squat in compensation?

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« Reply #3951 on: September 12, 2024, 02:35:13 AM »
We need a strong independent regulator appointed as quickly as possible after the King's speech.

The FA and not fit for purpose and the way the FA Cup has been destroyed to appease the top clubs is evidence of tail wagging the dog.

This kind of poaching and selling players at inflated prices to avoid ffp regulations should be being stamped on, but instead it is being brushed under the carpet as nothing happened.

The compensation figure should be increased by 10 fold to at least £2m imo.

None of this will happen though and we'll get a useless  character who'll makes the right noises but will actually do nothing to improve the  game.

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3952 on: September 12, 2024, 09:57:19 AM »

I listen to Macanthonys podcast. Not everyone’s cup of tea but he does give some good insight to behind the scenes.

Not sure how, but he seemingly manages to get his young kids on contracts, that while it still leaves him powerless to stop a move, does seem to give him the ability to negotiate for more than the few hundred grand.

The rules do need looking at though.

i think there is a bit of a grey murky area where you can actually get them signed to a contract very early on it's just that the contract doesn't kick in until they are 17.
some families won't do it but i think what McAnthony does is if you aren't on a contract you aren't in the academy which potentially does cost them some players in the long run but he's protecting his club first.

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« Reply #3953 on: September 12, 2024, 11:41:06 AM »
i think there is a bit of a grey murky area where you can actually get them signed to a contract very early on it's just that the contract doesn't kick in until they are 17.
some families won't do it but i think what McAnthony does is if you aren't on a contract you aren't in the academy which potentially does cost them some players in the long run but he's protecting his club first.

Youth Player Pre Agreement Contract I think.
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« Reply #3954 on: September 13, 2024, 05:27:29 PM »
To be fair we do it to other clubs as well, you could argue we don't do an awful lot but that just highlights we aren't any good at it rather than any holier than though principles.

If it's fair game and we are constantly striped of our top assets then we need to play the game and raid other smaller clubs as well. Don't hate the player hate the game.
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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3955 on: September 13, 2024, 06:50:27 PM »
Pl cup game being  streamed live

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3956 on: September 13, 2024, 07:17:48 PM »
Cole Deeming has scored 1-0

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« Reply #3957 on: September 13, 2024, 07:22:47 PM »
Cole Deeming has scored 1-0

Went to toilet and missed it, typical, any good?

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3958 on: September 13, 2024, 07:24:13 PM »
Went to toilet and missed it, typical, any good?
didn't see it either... lovely knee slide to celebrate though!

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3959 on: September 13, 2024, 07:29:32 PM »
didn't see it either... lovely knee slide to celebrate though!

Haha great goal then!  ;D

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« Reply #3960 on: September 13, 2024, 07:41:47 PM »
didn't see it either... lovely knee slide to celebrate though!

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's original knee injury was attributed to a knee slide goal celebration. Personally speaking if I were a manager I'd prefer to see them banned. Failing that I'd look at fining any player who did one. No exceptions. Bah humbug.
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« Reply #3961 on: September 14, 2024, 03:09:33 AM »
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's original knee injury was attributed to a knee slide goal celebration. Personally speaking if I were a manager I'd prefer to see them banned. Failing that I'd look at fining any player who did one. No exceptions. Bah humbug.

I think we were in agreement about this stupid celebration on the topic of George Thorne a few years back.

Mental how such a stupid action is still tolerated when ketchup is a no no in the canteen.

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3962 on: September 19, 2024, 03:05:27 PM »
Pl2 team now included in a new competition

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/albions-pl2-team-compete-new-national-league-cup-competition



Albion Under-21s will compete in the newly-formed National League Cup competition this season.

The tournament sees 32 teams split into four groups of eight, where an equal number of Premier League 2 and National League sides compete against each other to obtain the top two places.

Each team will play four group-stage fixtures in a non-league versus academy format. Those in the qualification spots will progress to the knockout stages of the competition, which entail standalone fixtures in the quarter-final, semi-final, and final.

Richard Beale’s team have been drawn in Group D alongside fellow PL2 sides from Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United and Nottingham Forest, where they’ll play against National League outfits Sutton United, Dagenham and Redbridge, Ebbsfleet United and Braintree Town.

All matches will be played at their non-league counterparts’ stadiums, with the young Baggies’ first test coming at the Kuflink Stadium against “the Fleet” on Tuesday, October 1 (ko 7pm).

Full fixture details can be found below:


Ebbsfleet United           Tuesday, October 1 (ko 7pm)   Kuflink Stadium
Dagenham & Redbridge   Tuesday, November 5 (ko 7.45pm)   The Chigwell Construction Stadium
Braintree Town                   Tuesday, December 3 (ko 7.30pm)   The Cressing Road Stadium
Sutton United                   Tuesday, January 21 (ko 7.30pm)   VBS Community Stadium

Please be aware, all dates, times and venues are subject to change."

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3963 on: September 19, 2024, 04:04:07 PM »
Good luck lads, more games can’t be a bad thing.

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3964 on: September 19, 2024, 06:51:00 PM »
This should be a good thing for the lads development
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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3965 on: September 19, 2024, 07:38:38 PM »
Games against 'men' always help I think. Even at lower standards for senior football

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3966 on: September 20, 2024, 07:46:51 PM »
"Youngster Souleyman Mandey has signed for non-league outfit Stourbridge on a 28-day work experience loan deal. 🤝
Good luck, Souleyman! 🫡"

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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3967 on: September 21, 2024, 06:34:10 AM »
"Youngster Souleyman Mandey has signed for non-league outfit Stourbridge on a 28-day work experience loan deal. 🤝
Good luck, Souleyman! 🫡"

Austrian U-17 international midfielder/defender.......

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Souley joined non-league Stourbridge on a 28-day work experience loan in September 2024. Signing from Rangers early into the 2023/24 campaign, Souleyman quickly became part of Richard Beale's U21s group. Following several appearances in Leigh Downing's 18s group, Mandey featured during the PL2 side's 3-0 defeat to Crystal Palace at the end of October 2023.

A tall, powerful midfielder who can play as a defender when required, Souleyman grew up in Austria - beginning his footballing education in KSV Siemens' youth ranks, before several spells around Austria took him to the UK where, after a couple of years at the Pulse Academy, he signed professional terms with Scottish giants Rangers in June 2022.

Receiving his first international cap for Austria's U17s during the early stages of 2023, Mandey will hope to reap the benefits of being around Albion's young pros during his spell at the club, as he targets building towards a first-team future'.

https://www.wba.co.uk/player/291
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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3968 on: September 27, 2024, 12:22:48 PM »
Had no idea our PL2 side are playing Southampton at the Hawthorns tonight, 7pm kick off. Would have looked to attend if I'd known and didn't have the lurgy. Oh well. Might tune in with WBA TV later.

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Match tickets will be available for Friday night’s Premier League 2 game versus Southampton. They are priced at £5 adults, and £1 for Under-17s and 65+, while Albion season ticket holders are able to watch the game for free. Supporters can purchase tickets on the gate on the Halfords Lane side of the stadium.

Alternatively, WBA TV+ subscribers will be able to watch a live stream of the game here from 6.20pm. Supporters can keep up-to-date with Friday’s PL2 match across the club’s social media channels, with half-time, full-time, and goal updates as they go in'.

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/pl2-preview-richard-beales-baggies-braced-hawthorns-clash-southampton
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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3969 on: October 01, 2024, 12:41:34 PM »
Under 23's are playing tonight vs Ebbsfleet in the new National League Cup

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« Reply #3970 on: October 02, 2024, 03:07:28 PM »
Drew 2-2 away at Ebbsfleet United last night but lost 5-4 on penalties

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/ebbsfleet-united-p-2-2-albion-national-league-cup-report

Albion’s PL2 team scored two late goals to send their National League Cup opener against Ebbsfleet United to penalties, but went on to lose in the shootout on Tuesday night.

Franklin Domi and Charles Ondo’s first-half efforts looked like they were going to be enough for the Fleet to seal an opening victory heading into the closing stages at the Kuflink Stadium.

But Alex Williams’ fine finish and a Cole Deeming penalty in the third minute of stoppage time ensured the match went to spot-kicks. Sadly, though, it was the hosts who won 5-4 on penalties to add an extra point to their tally in Group D following the first match of the competition.

A much-changed Baggies team, under the guidance of Professional Development Phase boss Richard Beale, could’ve been ahead prior to Ebbsfleet making the breakthrough.

Souleyman Mandey, back in the side following a progressive work experience loan with Stourbridge, lashed a powerful effort on target from the edge of the box - only to find home goalkeeper Dylan Berry in the way of his goal-bound strike.

Instead, Domi would capitalise on a well-worked corner routine after 17 minutes to make it 1-0 to the home team - firing in from the edge of the box after the set piece had been patiently worked to him from the right flank.

Within 34 minutes, the lead was doubled as Ondo was allowed plenty of time and space to advance forward and finish past Baggies shot-stopper Joe Wallis.

There was plenty of intent from Beale’s boys to get back into the clash after the interval, with Wales U21 international Williams being denied one-on-one, Cole Deeming seeing a free-kick parried, while Albion were denied from a goal-mouth scramble on the line.

Eventually, their goal came when a Deeming corner fell kindly to Williams on the edge of the box, who brilliantly lashed in on the half volley to halve the deficit in Kent.

Albion pushed for a leveller late on and the were given their opportunity to find one when substitute Dan Chimeziri was fouled in the area. The referee pointed to the spot, and under heavy pressure, Deeming coolly converted to make it 2-2 - sending the match to penalties.

Both sides earned a point from the draw as normal, but the spot-kicks decided who would add an additional point to their Group D total which, unfortunately, wasn’t the visitors in the end, as they missed the decisive spot-kick to leave them on just a single point.

The PL2 team play their second NL Cup match against Dagenham and Redbridge at the Chigwell Construction Stadium on Tuesday, November 5 (ko 7.45pm).

Albion: Wallis (GK), Williams, Hall (Diomande 46), Parker, Humphries (Onyemachi 62), Richards, Mandey (Deeming 62), Heard (Chimeziri 62), Nelson, Trialist (Sule 46), Higgins.

Subs not used: Brady (GK).
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« Reply #3971 on: October 03, 2024, 08:33:29 AM »
If anyone wants to watch the highlights of the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4FoSv4kWFs&t=2s

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« Reply #3972 on: October 17, 2024, 07:58:36 PM »
Watched the 1st half of this.  Mix up put us 1 down early on(possibly own goal).  All us after that lots of chances but shooting boots seem to be worn on wrong foot.  Especially our number 9, a very tall individual who is taking too long a time and having ball taken off his foot.  Maybe he's so tall that message is taken too long to travel from brain to foot.  He's not won a single header.

Left winger (Deeming?) Heard and Whitwell playing well and No 4 is tackling well and linking play.  Swansea quick to get back and blocking everything - remind you of anything.  One chance we had was when taking a corner quickly - why do teams wait until everybody is regimented and settled in the middle for a corner?  surely advantageous to attacking side to take it before defence is organised.
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« Reply #3973 on: October 23, 2024, 03:25:35 PM »
Interview with Ollie Bostock from E+S today

"Wales under-19 international Bostock, 17, is one of the Baggies’ brightest prospects in their next wave of exciting academy youngsters.

The left winger, from Lichfield, has been with Albion since he was six and trained with Carlos Corberan’s first team during pre-season.

He admitted the rise of right-sided flyer Fellows, 21, has given him inspiration.

“It’s good to have someone like that who has come through the academy to show there is a pathway there,” Bostock told the Express & Star. “He’s doing really well at the minute.

“I don’t see why I can’t try to do that as well – to try to be the next one. I didn’t really know him through the academy, I got to be with him a little bit training in the first team, but at the academy I didn’t come across him, he’s a bit older than me.


“It shows you that no matter what people say there are chances there as long as you’re good enough. Tom has taken his chances when he’s played, so it’s always going to be there.


All my football has been at West Brom! It’s been really good, everything I’ve learned, they’ve given me a chance to become better.”

Bostock earned his place as a regular in Richard Beale’s under-21s last season and has picked up where he left off despite an ‘annoying’ calf injury briefly halting momentum towards the end of the summer.

He netted a well-taken equaliser at The Hawthorns last week as Beale’s youngsters gave an exciting performance while somehow falling to a 2-1 defeat in Premier League Cup action against their youthful counterparts from Swansea.

Bostock, who was born in London but moved to Staffordshire as a young child, is a skilful left winger and a strong and confident character, too. He captained Wales under-17s and led them out at a European Championship and is already mixing it with the nation’s under-19s despite not turning 18 until February.

The calf injury forced him out for several weeks and even potentially cost him a senior Baggies debut at Fleetwood in the first round of the EFL Cup in August, where Corberan named several youngsters in his starting XI and a bench full of under-21 and under-18 players as Albion lost 2-1.

Bostock was disappointed, but is not about to let that blow shape his development. He added: “It’s nice to see the boys get their debuts but it was tough. Getting knocked out of the competition, it kind of takes the chance away to get minutes with the first team and show what I can do.
“But my career won’t be covered in one game, so once I get my chance I’ll try to take it and get as many as I can.

“Last season I did well to stay injury-free. This season has been a bit annoying. I was with the first team in pre-season but to get that injury for seven or eight weeks was tough.

“I worked hard in the gym, did my recovery right, so hopefully I can play as many minutes and train as much as possible.
“It was my calf, it was annoying because it didn’t hurt, it was a weird injury! It tests you mentally and makes you more hungry. You miss it so much that when you’re back you can’t take it for granted.”

There is a belief among Albion staff that the exciting talent has the ability and attitude to break into first-team reckoning at some point.
Bostock valued pre-season training under Corberan and his coaches but was not daunted by the significant step up.
“They were welcoming, a welcome group that make you feel part of it,” he said. “You’ve got to believe in yourself. You can’t go up there and think you’re an under-21 with the first team, you are, but you have to be with the mentality you’re good enough to be there, because you are if you are training with them.

“You have to play football the way you always play football. That’s what I try to do, be positive, take people on, don’t change your game because of where you are playing.

“It’s all good experiences and is only going to make you a better player.”


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Re: Under 23's / Academy Thread
« Reply #3974 on: November 05, 2024, 07:55:39 PM »
Tonights National League Cup game against Dagenham is free if you sign up according to the club OS


https://www.nationalleaguetv.com/



EDIT - Just tried and it's working ok.
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