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Who would you prefer as next Manager?

Sean Dyche
Cooper, Steve
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Re: Next Head Coach Thread
« Reply #1325 on: January 13, 2025, 03:40:18 PM »
Surely the attention turns now to the other two that were interviewed?


Rob Edwards has become available since last week as well. I'd be giving him a call at the least.

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« Reply #1326 on: January 13, 2025, 03:40:39 PM »
Hake or Mowbray then, Mowbray would be decent if fit enough.


Mowbray said he's not well enough yet.

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« Reply #1327 on: January 13, 2025, 03:41:14 PM »
Disappointing this wasn't clear earlier in the process? Maybe Wicky got cold feet and used this as an excuse as it doesn't sound right? Either way, I'd hope the club's lengthy process has given them at least one or two fall back options by now.

You wonder if we've over-complicated this appointment when there are in and out of work coaches who have managed successfully in the championship and are available quickly?   

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« Reply #1328 on: January 13, 2025, 03:44:38 PM »
Steven Schumacher would be one id be pleased with. Loved what he did at Plymouth and despite it not lasting at Stoke and a “failed” run there he actually had a 40% win rate and it was being poorly ran so maybe more hope he could make it work here.

So, so far we’ve had Wicky close to announcement and according to Fabrizio Romano Hake was about to be announced too so who knows where we are with other candidates.

I kinda feel we could end up with Dyche for the rest of the season now.
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« Reply #1329 on: January 13, 2025, 03:46:33 PM »
Dyche has a flat above the City Ground in Nottingham, so not a difficult commute, although the A42 is a boring drive  ;D
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« Reply #1330 on: January 13, 2025, 03:54:28 PM »
Its a no to Dyche from me, I've had a belly full of dull negative football. Does anyone know if Bilic or his agent were ever contacted at all? I think he was badly treated by us, but he always had an affinity with us fans and the ownership has changed. I'd have him back in a heartbeat right now.

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« Reply #1331 on: January 13, 2025, 03:55:13 PM »
Disappointing this wasn't clear earlier in the process? Maybe Wicky got cold feet and used this as an excuse as it doesn't sound right? Either way, I'd hope the club's lengthy process has given them at least one or two fall back options by now.

You wonder if we've over-complicated this appointment when there are in and out of work coaches who have managed successfully in the championship and are available quickly?

Sounds/feels like they are looking for very specific things in a coach to me.

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« Reply #1332 on: January 13, 2025, 03:56:15 PM »
This doesn't look good. I thought with a new owner and some management personnel changes we would see a more proactive and productive approach to recruitment yet the evidence so far suggests otherwise.

Interpreting the reason for the breakdown it would appear that the club wants Brunt as part of the management/coaching team.

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« Reply #1333 on: January 13, 2025, 03:59:21 PM »
I thought he'd basically ruled himself out of the running as he doesn't think he is fit enough currently?

He did indeed.  Such a shame but here's wishing him a full recovery.
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« Reply #1334 on: January 13, 2025, 03:59:40 PM »
I think we ought to relaunch a daily countdown similar to when we waited for the Bilic appointment  ;D .
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If you don't know how to use them, they will never be enough.
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« Reply #1335 on: January 13, 2025, 04:02:44 PM »
I think we ought to relaunch a daily countdown similar to when we waited for the Bilic appointment  ;D .
How many page will we get to on this thread until we have a new permanent Head Coach? I’m going around 80!

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« Reply #1336 on: January 13, 2025, 04:04:18 PM »
I'll re-sort this poll again.

I might have talks with Oldbury over some wages but these talks might fall down when it gets to my assistants Mark and Dexy.  :D

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« Reply #1337 on: January 13, 2025, 04:05:30 PM »
I have removed the candidates who have withdrawn from the race - I'll update the new list on my ipad later because work for some reason do not approve of me accessing Sky Bet :D
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« Reply #1338 on: January 13, 2025, 04:07:18 PM »
Perhaps someone ought to nip down to the Poundland Bescot Stadium and have a word with Mat Sadler, even if it means we have to send Cleary out on loan again...

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« Reply #1339 on: January 13, 2025, 04:10:02 PM »
Not sure why people would turn up their noses at Dyche, not my preffered option granted, but he is a good manager
Because Everton are a dire watch and I've already put up their goals and creation stats. His promotions with Burnley were a while ago now too no reason to think he could achieve it again with us.
More likely he couldn't  based on his negative,  defence first football he's had Everton playing in the last few seasons.
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Re: Next Head Coach Thread
« Reply #1340 on: January 13, 2025, 04:10:58 PM »
My gut tells me Wicky chickened out and ran for the hills.
The toblerone clutching moment at  Heathrow seems very applicable now.

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« Reply #1341 on: January 13, 2025, 04:13:28 PM »
The much-touted professionalism of the new regime looks a little overblown.

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« Reply #1342 on: January 13, 2025, 04:14:15 PM »
Because Everton are a dire watch and I've already put up their goals and creation stats. His promotions with Burnley were a while ago now too no reason to think he could achieve it again with us.
More likely he couldn't  based on his negative,  defence first football he's had Everton playing in the last few seasons.

Look at who Everton have in midfield and attack, its a wonder they're only the 4th lowest team for chance creation. They sold off the only flair players they had in Richarlison and Gordon before he arrived and since he's arrived they're spent little compared to other premier league sides (and also sold off a couple of first teamers in Onana and Iwobi).

No one is making that Everton side the entertainers. They do have a good defence though and quite sensibly have pragmatically played to their strenght.

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« Reply #1343 on: January 13, 2025, 04:17:49 PM »
Well that certainly blows a hole in the whole "due diligence" argument.

It's veering into something of a shambolic appointment at this point, taking so long at this point in the season is unacceptable. We are heading into a run of very winnable and very crucial games, while also having already eaten up half of the January transfer window. This should have all been sorted out by Bournemouth at the absolute latest. It's coming across as very amateur hour, which is perhaps not surprising given Nestor's lack of football background and Ian Pearce being Ian Pearce.

We're going to be the club who's gone the longest time without a manager this season from the top 2 divisions, for those who claim its "impatience" who have continuing faith in "behind the scenes" when literally no other club is like us.

How so, we were doing the due diligence and the appointing party failed to meet it?   We move on.   

Percy only ever said 'advanced talks' which is a continuation of the DD. It would have been better had it not come out but such is the nature of social media.   Allardyce was announced whilst the Albion team were returning from the Man City game because an unsuccessful applicant's agent leaked it to Talksport. 

No player or manager ever said I ain't coming as I was 2nd choice, it's all down to the contract.  Atkinson was 5th choice for the United job. 

Given Shilen has saved our club - and whilst it's frustrating - I'll continue to trust Him personally to get it right, setbacks and hiccups are part of life.   Whatever we conclude,  He appears to have genuine intentions for our club and has done everything right so far.   


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« Reply #1344 on: January 13, 2025, 04:19:07 PM »
I'll re-sort this poll again.

I might have talks with Oldbury over some wages but these talks might fall down when it gets to my assistants Mark and Dexy.  :D

For what you do you should be paying me  ???
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« Reply #1345 on: January 13, 2025, 04:19:12 PM »
this whole episode highlights how little ITK sources we have at the club. it seems this is the one area the club is good at, making sure no one knows what's going on, even interim management.

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« Reply #1346 on: January 13, 2025, 04:19:31 PM »
I've checked again Steve Coopers CV - cut his teeth as Liverpool academy coach and cites Barcelona B coach as his inspiration on tactics.

Someone said he is on gardening leave so assume we would have to offer him a lump sum to forgo his salary which is akin to compensation...so that rules him out then!

Shilen's influence at Bologna has worked wonders so I'm trusting him to get it right.

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« Reply #1347 on: January 13, 2025, 04:22:11 PM »
I've checked again Steve Coopers CV - cut his teeth as Liverpool academy coach and cites Barcelona B coach as his inspiration on tactics.

Someone said he is on gardening leave so assume we would have to offer him a lump sum to forgo his salary which is akin to compensation...so that rules him out then!

Shilen's influence at Bologna has worked wonders so I'm trusting him to get it right.

He signed a 3 year deal in June 24 so I guess for him to accept a job he gives up any compensation right from Leicester but I would guess we have nothing to pay them either. It leaves him secure enough to wait for the right job.
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« Reply #1348 on: January 13, 2025, 04:24:25 PM »
How so, we were doing the due diligence and the appointing party failed to meet it?   We move on.   

Percy only ever said 'advanced talks' which is a continuation of the DD. It would have been better had it not come out but such is the nature of social media.   Allardyce was announced whilst the Albion team were returning from the Man City game because an unsuccessful applicant's agent leaked it to Talksport. 

No player or manager ever said I ain't coming as I was 2nd choice, it's all down to the contract.  Atkinson was 5th choice for the United job. 

Given Shilen has saved our club - and whilst it's frustrating - I'll continue to trust Him personally to get it right, setbacks and hiccups are part of life.   Whatever we conclude,  He appears to have genuine intentions for our club and has done everything right so far.

No other club is taking this long, which is demonstrable. It's just coping to think what we are doing is "due diligence". I've been over this over and over again, but "due diligence" would mean we were prepared and took less time, not more time than every other club to replace a manager in the top 2 divisions this season. The amount of time we are taking is, at this point, very unusual, and that is not because we are suddenly more diligent than every other club. I go back to Ashworth, but he always cited the importance of having managerial plans ready to go, not dragging things. If Wicky fell through, fine, it happens, but the next person should be pretty much ready to go.

I thank the new owners for getting Lai out the picture, but we should have higher expectations than just that. This is their first real test and they are failing it. Ron Gourlay used to say all the right things also when he was appointed, he just never did any of them.
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« Reply #1349 on: January 13, 2025, 04:27:12 PM »
If it was all straightforward it wouldn't be the Albion! (An understatement if ever there was one)
This is the first real football situation the new owners have found themselves in, they need to show us now what they're all about!
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