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Who would you prefer as next Manager?

Sean Dyche
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« Reply #1050 on: January 09, 2025, 05:24:43 PM »
I really can't understand why Cooper is so highly rated. He's been sacked three times already in a short managerial career playing average football, Swansea fans hated his football style.
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« Reply #1051 on: January 09, 2025, 05:31:12 PM »
Everton not decided on Mourinho either apparently. He may a chance with Everton.

I might be wrong, but I am sure the new Everton owner Friedkin sacked Mourinho at one the other clubs he owns, namely Roma.

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« Reply #1052 on: January 09, 2025, 05:34:05 PM »
Sean Dyche spotted boarding a number 74 bus at New Street Station heading for The Hawthorns.
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74 doesn't go anywhere near New Street station.

However, a tram I could believe.

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« Reply #1053 on: January 09, 2025, 05:35:33 PM »
I might be wrong, but I am sure the new Everton owner Friedkin sacked Mourinho at one the other clubs he owns, namely Roma.


You are right, i wasn't aware!

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« Reply #1054 on: January 09, 2025, 05:46:28 PM »
While I don't think Dyche is the main man for us and prefer we'd look elsewhere, I think he's nowhere near as bad as many on here are making out. He's actually done well for Everton given their financial context and his football isn't as bad as many make out.

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« Reply #1055 on: January 09, 2025, 05:48:10 PM »
I might be wrong, but I am sure the new Everton owner Friedkin sacked Mourinho at one the other clubs he owns, namely Roma.
Mourinho reportedly not happy about it either !
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« Reply #1056 on: January 09, 2025, 06:20:01 PM »
Appointing dyche would bring me back to the days of the only manager I stopped having a season ticket “Tony pulis”

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« Reply #1057 on: January 09, 2025, 06:29:18 PM »
Appointing dyche would bring me back to the days of the only manager I stopped having a season ticket “Tony pulis”

For all his faults, he was a lot better than the likes of Bruce, Pardew, Ismael etc whose football was far uglier.

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« Reply #1058 on: January 09, 2025, 06:35:13 PM »
For all his faults, he was a lot better than the likes of Bruce, Pardew, Ismael etc whose football was far uglier.

I’d argue pardew and Bruce through there managerial career  both played better football than pulis teams

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« Reply #1059 on: January 09, 2025, 06:49:17 PM »
While I don't think Dyche is the main man for us and prefer we'd look elsewhere, I think he's nowhere near as bad as many on here are making out. He's actually done well for Everton given their financial context and his football isn't as bad as many make out.

Agreed, pretty surprised at the reaction. He did a really incredible job at Burnley, taking them to higher highs than we ever experienced in the premier. Then at Everton he did very well to keep them up when he came in, and again the next season without any danger, given the lack of investment in their squad the last few seasons and ownership uncertainties.

Both seasons he got Burnley promoted in the championship they scored 72 goals, its not like they were supremely dull. They became a different style of team in the premier league, but then what other choice did they have? They spent very little under Dyche in comparison to others in the league, including ourselves.

The reality is it'd be Dyche not giving us the time of day, not the other way round. He'll happily wait for a relegation threatened premier league club, or a relegated club in the championship for his next job. Not us.
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« Reply #1060 on: January 09, 2025, 07:10:26 PM »
Agreed, pretty surprised at the reaction. He did a really incredible job at Burnley, taking them to higher highs than we ever experienced in the premier. Then at Everton he did very well to keep them up when he came in, and again the next season without any danger, given the lack of investment in their squad the last few seasons and ownership uncertainties.

Both seasons he got Burnley promoted in the championship they scored 72 goals, its not like they were supremely dull. They became a different style of team in the premier league, but then what other choice did they have? They spent very little under Dyche in comparison to others in the league, including ourselves.

The reality is it'd be Dyche not giving us the time of day, not the other way round. He'll happily wait for a relegation threatened premier league club, or a relegated club in the championship for his next job. Not us.

Well put and totally agree. Id be very happy with dyche

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« Reply #1061 on: January 09, 2025, 07:16:30 PM »
Agreed, pretty surprised at the reaction. He did a really incredible job at Burnley, taking them to higher highs than we ever experienced in the premier. Then at Everton he did very well to keep them up when he came in, and again the next season without any danger, given the lack of investment in their squad the last few seasons and ownership uncertainties.

Both seasons he got Burnley promoted in the championship they scored 72 goals, its not like they were supremely dull. They became a different style of team in the premier league, but then what other choice did they have? They spent very little under Dyche in comparison to others in the league, including ourselves.

The reality is it'd be Dyche not giving us the time of day, not the other way round. He'll happily wait for a relegation threatened premier league club, or a relegated club in the championship for his next job. Not us.

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« Reply #1062 on: January 09, 2025, 07:27:23 PM »
I’d argue pardew and Bruce through there managerial career  both played better football than pulis teams

I agree with you.

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« Reply #1063 on: January 09, 2025, 07:29:15 PM »
Those not wanting Dyche can relax. He wouldn’t entertain a job with us as things stand.
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« Reply #1064 on: January 09, 2025, 07:37:20 PM »
Those not wanting Dyche can relax. He wouldn’t entertain a job with us as things stand.
Pity Everton couldn't have held off sacking him for a couple more weeks and so save us a couple of pages on him here.
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« Reply #1065 on: January 09, 2025, 08:05:45 PM »
Appointing dyche would bring me back to the days of the only manager I stopped having a season ticket “Tony pulis”
I did exactly the same .
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« Reply #1066 on: January 09, 2025, 08:09:42 PM »
Agreed, pretty surprised at the reaction. He did a really incredible job at Burnley, taking them to higher highs than we ever experienced in the premier. Then at Everton he did very well to keep them up when he came in, and again the next season without any danger, given the lack of investment in their squad the last few seasons and ownership uncertainties.

Both seasons he got Burnley promoted in the championship they scored 72 goals, its not like they were supremely dull. They became a different style of team in the premier league, but then what other choice did they have? They spent very little under Dyche in comparison to others in the league, including ourselves.

The reality is it'd be Dyche not giving us the time of day, not the other way round. He'll happily wait for a relegation threatened premier league club, or a relegated club in the championship for his next job. Not us.

I don't want to derail this thread too much but what highs were these? I had to look it up but they're best finish was 7th, so one better than us. Second best was 10th and then 15-19th. So not all that different from our time in the PL.
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« Reply #1067 on: January 09, 2025, 08:18:07 PM »
I don't want to derail this thread too much but what highs were these? I had to look it up but they're best finish was 7th, so one better than us. Second best was 10th and then 15-19th. So not all that different from our time in the PL.

He took them to Europe, we never even got close to that. We also never reached 50 points, and Burnley got 54 points twice under Dyche.

All this from taking a side who was mid-table in the championship when he took over, and while having no ownership investment to do it from. Or some modern elite analytical set up like Brentford to get good value deals.

If someone came in and did the job he did with Burnley with us, they'd be undoubtedly our greatest modern era manager.

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« Reply #1068 on: January 09, 2025, 08:19:51 PM »
I also feel people have been harsh on Dyche and as KN22 stated, he's way above us at the moment.

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« Reply #1069 on: January 09, 2025, 08:21:46 PM »
He took them to Europe, we never even got close to that. We also never reached 50 points, and Burnley got 54 points twice under Dyche.

All this from taking a side who was mid-table in the championship when he took over, and while having no ownership investment to do it from. Or some modern elite analytical set up like Brentford to get good value deals.

If someone came in and did the job he did with Burnley with us, they'd be undoubtedly our greatest modern era manager.

Agree. For context when we finished top table in the Premier League it was after years of yo-yoing and slowly building up from there. It was under Steve Clarke who I believe was our 6th manager after our first promotion whereas Dyche did it in one.

Regardless, I doubt we will be looking at him given our current setup. I do find it a bit odd though with the backlash.

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« Reply #1070 on: January 09, 2025, 08:37:43 PM »
In Dan’s defence, there is nothing bizarre about it in the slightest.

The club should have been well aware that Corberans agent had him on manoeuvres and that was the ideal opportunity to commence due diligence with potential candidates. That is not disrespectful but forward planning for when the scenario arose. Similar scouting happens with players and it equally applies to managers too.

We’re now 16 days following Corberans departure and we’re still seemingly no closer to an appointment.

Ashworth who was a very canny operator and knew how to run a football club took 14 days to appoint Di Matteo after Mowbray left, and then 5 days to appoint Hodgson after Di Mattteo was sacked.
16 days over a holiday period where you are reviewing folks from all over the planet, then arranging interviews, agreeing package for them and their staff and waiting for decisions back, getting this done quicker would be flaming amazing in my opinion
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« Reply #1071 on: January 09, 2025, 08:51:16 PM »
16 days over a holiday period where you are reviewing folks from all over the planet, then arranging interviews, agreeing package for them and their staff and waiting for decisions back, getting this done quicker would be flaming amazing in my opinion

The point is that if we were as well run as was claimed, the reviewing candidates stuff should have all been done on a evolving periodic basis meaning when Corberan left all that should have been done when he was leaving was reaching out to those we'd highlighted as managers. Football is not a 9-5 office job, its not like agents have their phones turned off till January 2nd.

People hero worship the job Ashworth did, and yet when he lost RDM in the season we had Hodgson ready to go days later. At Brighton when Potter was poached by Chelsea they had De Zerbi 10 days later. The idea it's fine if we take weeks because we're being "diligent" has no basis. The only clubs who are taking weeks to make in season replacements either have no one available they want, or were unprepared, or most likely a mixture of both those things.

I would absolutely love to believe we have a masterplan, but the reality is this is threatening to run into another week which will be very poor if that is the case given what a crucial time of year this is.

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« Reply #1072 on: January 09, 2025, 08:53:33 PM »
We have to disagree then !
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« Reply #1073 on: January 09, 2025, 09:11:51 PM »
Dyche is above us whether people like it or not. For me we have watched rubbish football for the last 2 years and I'd like a level of entertainment now. Dyche is good if you want stability but I'd question if he has the hunger for a promotion push he hasn't managed in this league for a while now

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« Reply #1074 on: January 09, 2025, 09:29:56 PM »
With regard to Dyche, Everton are the 4th lowest creators of chances in the PL this season. No thanks.
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