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Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Saturday 21st October 2017 17.30pm
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Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Saturday 21st October 2017 17.30pm
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Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Saturday 21st October 2017 17.30pm
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Southampton v West Bromwich Albion
Saturday 21st October 2017 17.30pm
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Just below us.
They are at home.
Pulis will tell our players to pass the ball back towards our penalty area and then hoof, and hope one of our players may (repeat may) fortunately run onto it.
We shall invite them to hover around our penalty area ala Pulis.
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a repeat of last night me thinks
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I think we'll draw this one.
Southampton 1 Albion 1
FGS Rondon
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I'm inclined to agree, but feel we may lose this as Southampton need to up their game at home.
2-1 Southampton
Gabbiadini & Lemina / HRK off the bench
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Referee: Graham Scott
Assistant Referee: Richard West
Assistant Referee: Mark Scholes
Fourth Official: Neil Swarbrick
We've been reffed by Graham Scott 3 times 3-1 win at home to Watford and 3-0 defeat away at Evertom last season and the 2-2 home draw with Bristol City in FA Cup in 15/16.
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Given both teams are struggling to score it wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be a 4-3 thriller.
.....I won't comment if I mean goals or shots on target.
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I think it'd be a big mistake to sit back in this one and let Southampton dictate terms all day. TP probably won't do it but I'd start a 4-4-2.
GK
(Myhill/Palmer?)
Nyom/Dawson/Evans/Gibbs
Phillips/Krychowiak/Barry/Chadli
Rodriguez/Rondon
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I think it'd be a big mistake to sit back in this one and let Southampton dictate terms all day. TP probably won't do it but I'd start a 4-4-2.
GK
(Myhill/Palmer?)
Nyom/Dawson/Evans/Gibbs
Phillips/Krychowiak/Barry/Chadli
Rodriguez/Rondon
To be fair Soton play a lot like Leicester and us (to a lesser degree) by sitting back and trying to hit on the counter attack; they struggle when teams do the same so sitting back is arguably the best tactic in this case. To be fair it's a pretty moot point though as we will set up to play like that regardless.
We need Phillips back in and possibly McClean as we need pace in the side to be more effective on the counter, I'd play Chadli just behind the striker whether that's Rondon or Rodriguez.
I'd be tempted to go for 4:2:3:1 or 4-1-4-1
Myhill
Nyom Dawson Evans Gibbs
Barry Krychowiak
Phillips McClean
Chadli
Rondon
Subs: Palmer, McAuley, Hegazi, Yacob, Livermore, Brunt, Rodriguez.
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Anybody know how many sold for this?
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Any news on Myhill?
I wonder if Tone will play Palmer
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Any news on Myhill?
I wonder if Tone will play Palmer
If Myhill's out, he'll have to play Palmer.
Would this be an EPL debut for Palmer?
Sorry, I don't know much about him.
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Saw Palmer warming up on Monday. Had to do a double take; thought we had Frazer Forster on the bench!
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If Myhill's out, he'll have to play Palmer.
Would this be an EPL debut for Palmer?
Sorry, I don't know much about him.
Yes it would be his EPl debut, he is very inexperienced and has only played first team football on loan at Kidderminster Harriers in the National league where he played 11 times.
https://www.wba.co.uk/teams/senior/goalkeeper/alex-palmer/
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Yes it would be his EPl debut, he is very inexperienced and has only played first team football on loan at Kidderminster Harriers in the National league where he played 11 times.
https://www.wba.co.uk/teams/senior/goalkeeper/alex-palmer/
What could possibly go wrong........
Actually, I hope he does start and plays a blinder - he is clearly the future and needs encouragement..............
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Don't know but blocks 47 and 48 have sold out; there are 71 seats available in Block 46 and blocks 44 and 45 haven't been activated yet by the look of things.
https://wbatickets.co.uk/en-GB/events/southampton%20v%20wba/2017-10-21_17.30/st%20marys%20stadium?hallmap
Fair play to Soton for making the ticket £20 too.
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What could possibly go wrong........
Actually, I hope he does start and plays a blinder - he is clearly the future and needs encouragement..............
I agree with the sentiment but his lack of experience is a worry, I'd be less worried if he had played in either league 1 or 2, but 11 games isn't a huge amount of experience.
I'd like him to get more game experience in the lower leagues rather than risking him in a Pl clash where we really need at least a point, but he might well play a blinder and turn out to be the next Jordan Pickford!
If Myhill and Foster are injured we don't really have an option though!
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Can we send TP in to keep? ;D
He might get a bit tuckered out with all the back passes!
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I agree with the sentiment but his lack of experience is a worry, I'd be less worried if he had played in either league 1 or 2, but 11 games isn't a huge amount of experience.
I'd like him to get more game experience in the lower leagues rather than risking him in a Pl clash where we really need at least a point, but he might well play a blinder and turn out to be the next Jordan Pickford!
If Myhill and Foster are injured we don't really have an option though!
I just hope he is training very hard with the first team today......
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Foster, Myhill and Burke all being monitored with keepers being assessed nearer to match day.
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2017/october/albion-to-monitor-trio/
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2-1 saints
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We will get something from this and I have a funny feeling the Albion managerial curse will strike again........
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2-0. We'll keep it tight, like Leicester, but our defending is just not good enough to hold out for 90 mins any more.
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Hopefully one of the keepers make it, think this could be a standard too high for the youngster with not much experience. Southampton will be a tough game. They are a very good team with a lot of talented players such as Gabbiadini, Tadic, van Dijk. A point would be a cracking result.
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They have some top top players and have you seen their bench
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Think Pulis will target points from the next 2 away games seeing as we have Chelsea and Man City up next at home.
Would like to think that this means we go for wins at Saints and Huddersfield but sadly, think we will just go ultra defensive to strangle a point or nick a win with a set piece.
Understandable I suppose but uninspiring.
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Shane Long to break his dry run with a dodgy pen.
Soton 4- WBA 0
we'll have someone sent off.
Glass half empty.
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A win is worth 3 times the amount of points as a draw, it's a shame our manager doesn't seem to realise this. We'll grind out another bore-draw and end up with less points than if we had got a win in just one of the two games this week.
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Saw Palmer warming up on Monday. Had to do a double take; thought we had Frazer Forster on the bench!
likes his bananas does Palmer :P
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2-2 fgs JRod
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Shane Long to break his dry run with a dodgy pen.
Soton 4- WBA 0
we'll have someone sent off.
Glass half empty.
.......and then spilled!
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Has anybody heard anything further on Myhill and Fosters injuries? The last I saw is that essentially we needed to assess them both during this week to see if either could play the game.
My own opinion on the matter is that if either of the two are not 100% ready for this weekend then we should stick young Alex Palmer between the sticks for the game and let the other two recuperate for the Man City game.
If Pulis goes to Palmer and says "You're the guy" for this week then i'm sure that will do wonders for his confidence and he'll do a good job for us, particularly after what happened against Leicester where it seemed like he didn't seem to trust him and replace Myhill.
Thoughts?
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Rodriguez to score the winner in 96 th minute when Southampton keeper kicks him with ball and it hits his backside and finds back of net. Only shot on target by both sides :P
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I agree with you, but I think TP will be ultra-cautious and if Myhill is, say, 85% he'll play him rather than take a chance on Palmer.
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Don't think trust came in to it against Leicester. Myhill obviously indicated to Pulis that he wanted to carry on so he did..end of.
if the Vardy incident had involved Foster and he didn't want to come off with Myhill being on the bench I doubt anyone would be questioning Pulis not making a substitution.
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According to Physio room Myhill, Robson-Kanu and Morrison are slight doubts, Foster is a major doubt and there is no mention of Burke so maybe he's okay?
scroll down, we're just after West Ham.
http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php
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Do we think there will be any penalties on Sat I'm thinking of Mr long who does seem to go to ground very easily
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Do we think there will be any penalties on Sat I'm thinking of Mr long who does seem to go to ground very easily
see the predictions post !
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Myhill muscle strain - at risk, Foster - highly unlikely
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Myhill muscle strain - at risk, Foster - highly unlikely
In which case, play Palmer for 1 game. Get's a game under his belt for Exp.
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Ross Turnbull to sign on a short term deal.
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Hmmm :-X
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Hopefully one of the keepers make it, think this could be a standard too high for the youngster with not much experience. Southampton will be a tough game. They are a very good team with a lot of talented players such as Gabbiadini, Tadic, van Dijk. A point would be a cracking result.
No it wouldn't they are not a very good team and with a proper manager with this team we should be going there to win.
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They might not be a very good team (in your opinion) but they've got some bloody good players.
Tough game ahead.
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0-0...😴
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Couldn't remember anything about Turnbull so I looked him up. Sounds like a walking disaster area.
Would far rather give Palmer a chance to make a Roy of the Rovers debut.
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from wiki, made me loff.
In May 2015, Barnsley manager Lee Johnson revealed that he was relishing the prospect of the battle between goalkeepers Turnbull, Christian Dibble and Adam Davies, in the upcoming 2015-16 season, declaring that the best goalkeeper will be the clubs number 1.[29] On 6 July 2015, Turnbull was linked with a move to local rivals Leeds United.
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Rodriguez to score the winner in 96 th minute when Southampton keeper kicks him with ball and it hits his backside and finds back of net. Only shot on target by both sides :P
That's got a certain 'ring' to it ;D ;) .
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Pulis gives a bit more info on goalkeepers, Morrison, Robson-Kanu & Burke as well as Soton game.
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2017/october/pulis-on-southampton-test/
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Pulis says the team needs to start scoring more goals.
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Pulis says the team needs to start scoring more goals.
NSS!
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Ross Turnbull to sign on a short term deal.
I'd sooner see Palmer given a chance, rather than drag in somebody just because they've got experience.
How are players going to get experience if you don't trust them to play? If we aren't going to trust him in this situation then what is the point of him even being here? He could be world class, but we'll never know and end up releasing him to league 1/2.
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Southampton 1-0, FGS Long
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I'm inclined to agree, but feel we may lose this as Southampton need to up their game at home.
2-1 Southampton
Gabbiadini & Lemina / HRK off the bench
As HRK won't be fit, will change our scorer to Jay Rod.
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I'd sooner see Palmer given a chance, rather than drag in somebody just because they've got experience.
How are players going to get experience if you don't trust them to play? If we aren't going to trust him in this situation then what is the point of him even being here? He could be world class, but we'll never know and end up releasing him to league 1/2.
You could bring Turnbull in and have him on the bench with Palmer playing of course.
From TP's interview it sounds like it could be a moot discussion anyway, I expect Boaz to be fit enough.
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2 nil Albion... I haven't had a drink, honest
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How are we going to score more goals when 70% of your team is trying to stop the other team scoring.
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Surprised to see Hegazi start , other than Foster an unchanged line up.
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Says we need more goals then puts out another ultra defensive team.
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Hegazi should always start with whats available.
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Hegazi should always start with whats available. pulis out
He was at fault for goals at Stoke , Leicester and Watford. That said he's in so I hope he has a good game.
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Any Pulis out etc please keep in Pulis thread.
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Says we need more goals then puts out another ultra defensive team.
Have to agree , poor from Pulis.
Very little threat .
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Surprised and disappointed he hasn’t bought Phillips or Brunt in for Livermore. That change would push Chadli to the middle and make us more potent up top. Hoping he proves me wrong.
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Surprised and disappointed he hasn’t bought Phillips or Brunt in for Livermore. That change would push Chadli to the middle and make us more potent up top. Hoping he proves me wrong.
This one change would make such a difference in us going forward but he refuses to do it! even when chasing games! we need to see chadli back in the no 10 position!!
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Would have swapped Hegazi with McAuley but let's see how he does. Come on then Albion, let's get the three points!
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0-2 to us. Jrod ,Rondon
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I have a bizarre feeling that this well be a wild one. 4-3 Albion
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Come on Albion!!!!
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Come on you Baggie Boys!!!! Glad Foster is back in :D
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Same outfield players as Monday. After all, why change a, er, drawing team?
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Pulis says the team needs to start scoring more goals.
then plays 3 defensive midfielders and puts chadli and j rod where they are least effective....
Glad were going all out for the win today!
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Looks like same game plan..hoof from the back to allow them the ball.
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Barry not too far away!
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Nothing to write home about.
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This is what happens when you mess about in your own half. We were lucky.
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Well done Fozzie
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McClean and/or Phillips on the counter can hurt this team. There's not quite enough pace to hurt them in this counter-attacking style.
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Woeful start for a match we need to win looking at the upcoming games !
A handful of clear chances for Saints already.
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Whew.
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It's just awful to watch....
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One of those shots will go in. We are backing off too much.
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Sitter for Romeu. Should be losing
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Come on prove me wtong
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Someone wake me if something happens
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ANOTHER SITTER.
Long this time. We are dire
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We committed too much for that attack and almost allowed a goal.
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Could that of been a penalty?
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Could that of been a penalty?
Might have been a bit harsh but it looked like hand ball.
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Definite penalty that is for me. His hand is in the air.
Evans injured.
Foster being spoken to about time wasting
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I would've put GMac on there
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Evans off Nyom on
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Nyom on. Dawson across
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Definite penalty that is for me. His hand is in the air.
Evans injured.
Foster being spoken to about time wasting
'Foster being spoken to about time wasting'. If thats right that is bad
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Foster time wastin on half hour, great tactics pulis
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Could that of been a penalty?
nope, neither was.
has to be intentional for handball, both clearly were trying to move their hands away from the ball.
makes a change seeing a ref make the correct decision these days.
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This is one of the local games i can attend from Dorset, so disappointed in how we play nowadays i haven't bothered going- for the first time in a long time.
Such a poor team to watch, i feel sorry for the lads who play for us being coached to play in this way, it's painful watching this week in week out.
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He is probably taking into account Gmacs lack of match fitness as were under the cosh so much.
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'Foster being spoken to about time wasting'. If thats right that is bad
It's actually quite sad, depressing.
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Nyom coming on for injured Evans. Mcauley better option than sliding Dawson over in my opinion.
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We're a bit camped in our own half at the moment. Frustrating the home fans though as they have no end product.
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Nyom coming on for injured Evans. Mcauley better option than sliding Dawson over in my opinion.
At least we have 2 proper full backs on now
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Foster time wastin on half hour, great tactics pulis
Hasn't he already got a couple of yellow cards for this?
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Sorry for swearing but we are ****** awful...
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Hasn't he already got a couple of yellow cards for this?
Yeah I don't think it's actually as bad as it's made out. Every team does it. I think we're getting a reputation though and the opposition fans are always straight on Foster's back after the first time he does it which forces the ref's hand most occasions.
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Keep it tight lads storm Brian will arrive next seaturday
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It's all Southampton.
We need a midfield to get a grip on the game.
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Nyom coming on for injured Evans. Mcauley better option than sliding Dawson over in my opinion.
Nah he's holding Mcauley in reserve ready to go ultra defensive half way through the second half to hold on to 0 - 0
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Livermore what is he thinking with that attempt of a through ball
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Decent counter chance there. They're definitely there for the taking on the break
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any links radio even my usual are monitored to death it seem
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all of you negative Nancys need to get a grip. WBA is frustrating them. Southampton will be mincemeat in the 2nd half
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Great save from Ben!
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Nyom lost Yoshida twice in a row!
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Spot on Keith it's dreadful and it's never going to change under mr negative
the only Mr Negatives are the fans
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Could/should be 4-0 down. Great defensive team...when the opposition miss sitters
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Could/should be 4-0 down. Great defensive team...when the opposition miss sitters
Will still be 'fine margins' when we hear pulis' verdict. ::)
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Watching our counter attacking or attempts at it anyway makes me bury my head in shame!
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any links radio even my usual are monitored to death it seem
http://firstrows.xyz/soccer/xft-southampton-vs-west-bromwich-albion-fyz3aa968?l=1588550771
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Typical away performance. :)
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Neither team looks like scoring from open play but it's Southampton who looks more likely to nick that set piece goal. This has been such a horrible half to watch sadly it's another match yet same boring football.
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Luckily it's 0-0. Hopefully dust ourselves down and go again second half. Southampton have been very good.
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Absolute dross...again. Zero attacking intent.
Not sure how much longer i can put up with this. Just no enjoyment watching the games.
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Absolutely awful. Its down purely to tactics. Its his team, playing his way.
Pathetic and disgusting. It won't change either. We may get the odd good half of football but this is it until he leaves.
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Will he change the plan in the second halt?
To a plan which means that we are allowed to go forward and go up en bloc.
On at a time isn't working.
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When fans of other teams say what is the point in West brom, days like today I really can't help but agreeing.
Southampton have been average this year and we appear to have no intention whatsoever of making them worry, just sitting deep and hoping they don't score.
Went to watch my local team macc Town today in the conference, I'm going to a start doing it more often.
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Luckily it's 0-0. Hopefully dust ourselves down and go again second half. Southampton have been very good.
They havnt, were just dire and lucky Southampton can't score sitters.
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Luckily it's 0-0. Hopefully dust ourselves down and go again second half. Southampton have been very good.
Southampton have been very average in my opinion. We've given them the space and time to play and they've barely done anything. There for the taking, but we won't try and take it.
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Iv seen Sunday league teams who can pass & hold the ball up better than we do.
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If they weren't obligated to do so, we'd never be picked for TV
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Iv seen Sunday league teams who can pass & hold the ball up better than we do.
Seems like nobody on here understands that defending is a large part of the game.
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Pub teams can pass a a ball better than we can.
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This is a must win for us. 2017 has been god awful.
Rubbish tactics. Time wasting. Turgid garbage.
Too many players not involved In the game. Livermore and Rodriquez haven't done anything for few weeks. Brunt and Phillips would at least give us some forward options and the ability to keep the ball and penetrate
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It a question of whether our defence can hold out or Southampton get a bit of luck. Got 0-0 or 1-0 Sotn written all over it.
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Nah he's holding Mcauley in reserve ready to go ultra defensive half way through the second half to hold on to 0 - 0
Sad thing about your response is I can actually really see TP thinking that!! :'(
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Was bored so thought id spin on the game, first time watching us since 2nd game in this season.
We really are as dull to watch as I remembered.
3 defensive midfielders again across the middle (must be the only team in the country that does this)
Completely outplayed again. Time wasting 20 minutes in. The days of living down south and being proud to tell people i'm a West Brom fan seem like a distant memory these days
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Seems like nobody on here understands that defending is a large part of the game.
and we can't even do that under the most defensive coach in football.
we're lucky Southampton don't know where the net is or we would be 4 nil down.
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Dreadful! We really do stink the place out.
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Pretty poor fayre so far from both sides. Rodriguez and Livermore probably the worst two players. Quite cold also!
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After next saturdays drubbing let's hope this is his last away game. Shocking negative boring football
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We're getting worse not better. The players deserve a better manager. Pulis tactics dishonour the Premier League and dishonour the history of our club. He's got to go!
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We are just so very boring now.
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I'd bring Phillips on for Rodriguez who is poor yet again.
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Seems like nobody on here understands that defending is a large part of the game.
We have barely defended today, they have had a number of clear chances so not sure where you're going with this argument
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Do you guys think it's intentional? Or are the players just incompetent to go forward
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The way we play is an insult-to the fans, to the players, to the history of the club and to football in general.
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Sure i heard on BT Sport we have only had better possession in 10 games out of 102 under TP.
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http://firstrows.xyz/soccer/xft-southampton-vs-west-bromwich-albion-fyz3aa968?l=1588550771
Cheers Mukka
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I'd bring Phillips on for Rodriguez who is poor yet again.
Needs to play upfront tbf. Looked decent up there against Bournemouth. Got to be better than Rondon surely?!?
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Do you guys think it's intentional? Or are the players just incompetent to go forward
I think we invite too much pressure and conceding so many chances is inevitable when you give the opposition that much of the ball, but hey ho
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Yet with the players at our disposal, it looks a talented and very useful squad. It's just you wouldn't think so watching this.
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With the conditions, I fancy us to cause problems from corners attacking that goal in the second half - if we get advanced enough to win a corner that is.
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Seems like nobody on here understands that defending is a large part of the game.
so is attacking :o
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Seems like nobody on here understands that defending is a large part of the game.
Why?
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Expected set up by us, Problem is being a counter attack team, You need pace to counter and our five in the middle have none of it.
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We have barely defended today, they have had a number of clear chances so not sure where you're going with this argument
My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
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so is attacking :o
Not our game it's not!
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Can we get a new bloke in charge before second half start please.
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Flinging 10 men behind the ball in every single game doesn't make a team good at defending.
Playing a back 4 rather than a back 10 and keeping it tight/solid is what makes a team good at defending.
What Tony Pulis does isn't anything special and its mad that he sometimes gets respect/credit for it when we do happen to steal a 0-0 or 1-0
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My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
What?! We intentionally let them create chances so they can miss them and frustrate the fans? Alright then mate, keep smoking whatever it is you are smoking.
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My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
Let's see if you agree with this after Man City at home next week :D
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My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
Got a link to the game your watching?
clearly different to the one the rest of us are watching.
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If Livermore is being asked to play DM we may aswell play Yacob who would offer us much more protection. We need brunt aswell, at least we can guarantee a better ball of corners and free kicks.
Phillips has been awful this season so I understand his exclusion of late.
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Nice to see us continuing to control this game by letting Southampton have all the ball this half...
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He certainly good at turning them into non footballers
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My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
Seriously? If you can really make sense of our approach and think this a sensible way to play against a team low on confidence who can't win at home and don't score goals then I suspect you have been on the special brew since breakfast. If I have to see much more of this tripe I think I might try that!
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Pathetic play !
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My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
lost for words.
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G-Mac coming on now ;D
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this is unwatchable..
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Are we on Mogadon?
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G-Mac coming on now ;D
Can't believe we are going even more defensive.
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G-Mac coming on now ;D
Told you! Just a whole lot sooner than I thought he'd do it ???
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Pulis, you are killing our club.
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Commentator just said it's painful
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His last game next week me thinks
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It's not more defensive. We've got rid of one of the holding 3 in the middle, and gone 3 at the back with Gibbs and Nyom pushing higher
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It's not more defensive. We've got rid of one of the holding 3 in the middle, and gone 3 at the back with Gibbs and Nyom pushing higher
Yup
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Needed a change of something, may as well have Jay Rod down the middle, he's wasted out wide
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This is the worst yet. Surely we are in the final throes of the pulis era
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75-25 possession. .commentators are having a field day..
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Any chance of a shot on target?
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Oh Jay
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Our best player today is hegazi
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75-25 possession. .commentators are having a field day..
and what's the score? would you rather have a 60-40 advantage and be down 3-1?
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McCauley for Barry????
Jeeeeeeezzzzzzz
Wished I'd stayed home and watched strictly
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What a ball by Krycho again. Like I have said time and time again, quality quality player.
Woeful off Jay Rod
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They are queueing up to run at us.
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McCauley for Barry????
Jeeeeeeezzzzzzz
Wished I'd stayed home and watched strictly
Have you seen how we are attacking more after the switch?
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Commentators now taking the rise
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and what's the score? would you rather have a 60-40 advantage and be down 3-1?
Erm did I say I was complaining..I was just saying that the commentators were having a field day !!!
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Surely now time for yacob on to replace rondon!!
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Forster is an awful keeper btw.
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We've been better since the switch to 3-5-2
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Forster is an awful keeper btw.
Yep, we should be testing him much more. We have been better since the tactical switch.
Greg unimpressive again
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We've been better since the switch to 3-5-2
Yep, players in correct positions, Jay Rod and Chadli centrally. Amazing the difference it can make
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and what's the score? would you rather have a 60-40 advantage and be down 3-1?
What about having a 60-40 advantage and be up 3-1, or is that just a fantasy?
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Can anyone tell me what Livermore brings to our side? Has he had an assist or a goal in his Albion career closing in on 12 months?
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Surely, surely, this has to be Pulis' swan song?
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Have to give the away support lots of kudos for the noise they are making
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Surely, surely, this has to be Pulis' swan song?
We are currently mid table so no.
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Surely, surely, this has to be Pulis' swan song?
Pulis a swan? More like the ugly duckling! :-[
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Southampton don't even look threatening anymore. We are killing their desire
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Surely, surely, this has to be Pulis' swan song?
yeah sure. Sack him after we nick a late 1-0 winner.
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Evan if we win 1-0 he should be sacked for non football crimes
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Southampton don't even look threatening anymore. We are killing their desire
This football would kill anyone's desire. Like trying to attract a beautiful woman by farting on a date! :'(
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we are so shocking it's actually embarrassing.
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This football would kill anyone's desire. Like trying to attract a beautiful woman by farting on a date! :'(
and that's exactly the point. This match is 100% under WBA control.
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Come on Albion let's nick a goal
Keep positive chaps
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We mess about on the ball..and they just take it off us.
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and that's exactly the point. This match is 100% under WBA control.
Don't fancy your chances of pulling tonight! :-*
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Chadli off...Why not Livermore?
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We are living dangerously.
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The end is nigh
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Late goal AGAIN
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well, well, well what a surprise
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and that's exactly the point. This match is 100% under WBA control.
and that's what having 100% control gets you.
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Looking like we'll just see this one out then.
What an awful shower we have become.
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Now is it time to sack him?
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Disgusting.
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Looking like we'll just see this one out then.
What an awful shower we have become.
Nice timing.
I give up.
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How could 7 people not tackle him?
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Rubbish !!!!
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Deserved everything we get!
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What a shower of S***e!
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Could see it coming...
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How could 7 people not tackle him?
Great at defending, us. Not one man could get near the bloke
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We still controlling the game SC_Baggie?
Idiot
nothing you can do about a great goal like that
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Pulis you idiot
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nothing you can do about a great goal like that
You make me smile.
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We are now 13th and dropping.
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funny as f...K, HOPELESS.
PLEASE GO pulis.
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pulis has to go
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nothing you can do about a great goal like that
Have you ever visited Earth?
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nothing you can do about a great goal like that
Related to legend are we
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Bye time. Sure relegation coming otherwise
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This is turning into a shambles
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anyone who still defends pulis is either on the wind up or just has no clue at all about football.
what a shambles, the sooner this moron is gone the better.
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nothing you can do about a great goal like that
Not when you set yourselves up for a draw at best.
You're done Tony, F*** off.
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Get the dinasour out of the club. Just goes to show abit of positive thinking goes along way.
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Man City next
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Why the hell don’t we try and win the game from the outset instead of setting out not to lose it. This has gone on for far too long.
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Goal came from Rondon not keeping possession for about the thousandth time. He's awful.
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Appalling. He just tore us apart.
Disgusting play, we are in trouble.
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very disappointing goal go give up though. Things were starting to tip toward us and I thought for sure we were going to grab a late goal. Southampton was defeated mentally.
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Started with Rondon losing a silly ball and then a comic book of errors. Rondon is rubbish utterly and totally
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Goal came from Rondon not keeping possession for about the thousandth time. He's awful.
what about Livermore?
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what about Livermore?
Neither are good enough
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very disappointing goal go give up though. Things were starting to tip toward us and I thought for sure we were going to grab a late goal. Southampton was defeated mentally.
You must be on a windup
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Why the hell don’t we try and win the game from the outset instead of setting out not to lose it. This has gone on for far too long.
Exactly.
They have poor home form, struggle to score goals. So what do we do? Setup to let them have the ball and grow in confidence as usual.
Absolute joke.
I am now in the Pulis out camp.
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Shocking, someone needs to bring him down there and take a booking. urine poor again
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Only one up still?
We need more.
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Started with Rondon losing a silly ball and then a comic book of errors. Rondon is rubbish utterly and totally
He's terrible but actually he was badly fouled before they counter attacked. Watch a replay he was cythed down by Lemina
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Pace beats us every time.
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Their keeper is so bad. If we could just test him more...
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You must be on a windup
I'm guessing the SC stands for Stoke City.
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very disappointing goal go give up though. Things were starting to tip toward us and I thought for sure we were going to grab a late goal. Southampton was defeated mentally.
The only one defeated mentally is you if you think such thing.
wake up and smell the coffee, we are awful with this complete clueless idiot in charge.
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They have poor home form, struggle to score goals. So what do we do? Setup to let them have the ball and grow in confidence as usual.
Absolute joke.
I am now in the Pulis out camp.
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one manager made positive subs and its probably got them 3 points. the other couldn't spell the word.
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Pulis out.
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Seems like nobody on here understands that defending is a large part of the game.
Obviously. So is attacking. So is passing. daft post.
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He has got to go, the stats don't lie.
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He has had us over.
He needs to give a proper manager a chance.
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Only one team wanted to win.
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When did we last win a league game away under Pulis?
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Goal came from Rondon not keeping possession for about the thousandth time. He's awful.
:D. OhDear
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When did we last win a league game away under Pulis?
Burnley?
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Shocking hopefully I will wake up to the news he's gone , embarrassing
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I have a bizarre feeling that this well be a wild one. 4-3 Albion
Was truly wild
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Awful...again.
The style of football is just appalling and if, anything, is getting worse. The board won't do anything as Pulis will keep us up but, despite being behind him for a long time, i want him gone now.
It's embarrassing watching us play at the moment. No enjoyment whatsoever.
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Same old rubbish bye bye Pulis!
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My point is, is that other squads hate to play against WBA. It frustrates the fans and players. That's Pulis's goal, nobody likes to play a frustrating match. So our tactics our entirely meant to annoy and frustrate. And what frustrates teams more than anything? Missed chances. It is intentional that we give the other team an occasional good chance so that they miss it and get frustrated. The key is not let it be too clear cut. The whole match-flow is entirely in the control of the Baggies. Don't let possession % fool you otherwise.
And with something like 2 wins in 17 the masterplan is really paying off isnt it. Thanks for educating us.
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Yet another gutless performance with no ambition whatsoever.
The club need to act very quickly and sack this clown, 2 points above the drop zone having played no one of any note.
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Simply poor.
We don’t look dangerous at all. The amount of time Gregorz picked the ball up and literally has 0 options available.
Rondon is a waste of space.
Pathetic.
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Never said that before.
Pulis out.
Awful and negative tactics again.
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Would love to get the take of Legend, WoysWondeful and Jacko on that game.
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whats to defend? results are rubbish, performances are rubbish.
where do we go from here?
he's had time and money to improve us but we have gone backwards.
anyone who thinks this team couldn't get relegated is wrong.
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Thought we were better at 5-3-2 but awful before that. Rodriguez and Rondon were dire second half when we needed them and thought Phillips was poor when he came on as well as being ill-disciplened tactically as he abandoned the other central midfielders by standing too far wide.
I was impressed with Gibbs, Hegazi and I suppose Dawson bar the goal.
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and that's exactly the point. This match is 100% under WBA control.
Your posts get more incredible as this went on.
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That was as bad if not worse than anything that Irvine served up and he was chased out of the club. No one can defend that surely that was embarrassing.
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2nd half was much closer. Really ridiculous 5-6 guys couldn't tackle the guy to stop a goal.
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Hope Man City put 7 past us next week if it will mean this joke of a manager finally gets sacked.
Putting 10 men behind the ball isn't clever and innovative. Its just dull.
If every team played like us the premiership would be finished.
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Goal came from Rondon not keeping possession for about the thousandth time. He's awful.
He was fouled you one eyed moaner
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Please please please no one have the nerve to come on here and defend that 5hite or defend a manager who is sucking the life out of our great club. A true dementor of a manager - need a magician to save our season - and our sanity
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2nd half was much closer. Really ridiculous 5-6 guys couldn't tackle the guy to stop a goal.
Yep. 2nd hald was going exactly as planned. That goal was crushing
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One bright light, I thought Hegazi was magnificent.
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Our new signings killed this team. Pulis should be sacked if we dont play the same team as we did in the first game. Evans, Greg, Gibbs, Chadli and Rondon shouldnt start.
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Awful...again.
The style of football is just appalling and if, anything, is getting worse. The board won't do anything as Pulis will keep us up but, despite being behind him for a long time, i want him gone now.
It's embarrassing watching us play at the moment. No enjoyment whatsoever.
I have gone past the point where i think he is capable of keeping us up. Absolutely awful vibe around the club.
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2nd half was much closer. Really ridiculous 5-6 guys couldn't tackle the guy to stop a goal.
Even "taking one for the team".
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We keep reading Bilic is under pressure, Koeman is under pressure etc etc well let's not put Pulis under pressure....................let's just get rid NOW !!!!!!
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Yep. 2nd hald was going exactly as planned. That goal was crushing
Going to plan!
Irrespective as to who we play We look like a league two side playing away at a big club in the third round of the FA Cu.
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One bright light, I though Hegazi was magnificent.
Agree, I still think he's too inconsistent for me though.
I also agree on our new signings, with Brunt in for Gibbs, Brunt was the worse of the two but excellent at set-pieces which are vital, and Yacob in for Livermore makes us harder in the middle.
Really bad performance today, could have easily been 3-0.
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One bright light, I thought Hegazi was magnificent.
Most of the ones who support pulis didn't want him to start. Our best by a mile tonight
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I actually for the first time feel angry, even when we inevitably went down there was no desire to get back into the game. Gutless and I want some desire in the club back, because at this rate we are going down.
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Ill be honest im starting to think this isnt working anymore.
Rondon was absolutely pathetic and we had no options when we had the ball
Southampton have had us over on Jay-Rod, but thats karma for having Stoke over Berahino, Jay-Rod was awful
Beginning to think a change is required
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Absolute pooh performance get rid now before it's too late...
No not a knee jerk reaction... If parking the bus don't work we are fooked.
Get rid now let the new head coach? have a look before the jan window and for flip sake don't give Pulis any more money to waste on defensive players.
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The intent and desire to go win a match is just not there. The team is setup and sent out to defend with a negative mentality. Do we even practice attacking play and passing the ball to each other, because it certainly doesn’t look like it. Set pieces and defending that is it. Dont want instability but the football is so dire and the results as poor it’s getting to the point where a more positive approach is required by Tony or someone else.
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Our new signings killed this team. Pulis should be sacked if we dont play the same team as we did in the first game. Evans, Greg, Gibbs, Chadli and Rondon shouldnt start.
Only one person responsible for this rubbish and that’s Pulis.
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Dreadful performance but to be expected. A decent squad with some talent but with all their talent coached out of them.
Pulis out.
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Yep. 2nd hald was going exactly as planned. That goal was crushing
Chadli was booked for a trip on one of theirs - they consistently prevented our players fro getting forward by blocking and pulling and yes even tripping but only one out of five given. Rondon may have not lost or even won the ball back had he not been shoved in the back and then blocked off and brought down. Their goal was a direct resulyt of a poor decision. However the player should have been stopped well before he got to our area - and I mean stopped!
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2 wins in 18 playing dire football. Can't defend that record - has to go NOW
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Ill be honest im starting to think this isnt working anymore.
Rondon was absolutely pathetic and we had no options when we had the ball
Southampton have had us over on Jay-Rod, but thats karma for having Stoke over Berahino, Jay-Rod was awful
Beginning to think a change is required
Starting to think!
In my opinion it’s been obvious for a long time
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Going down. No attacking intent. No set pieces as a result and when we do get set pieces opposition have found out how to defend them. Think our more talented players may have stopped playing for him
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Ill be honest im starting to think this isnt working anymore.
Rondon was absolutely pathetic and we had no options when we had the ball
Southampton have had us over on Jay-Rod, but thats karma for having Stoke over Berahino, Jay-Rod was awful
Beginning to think a change is required
Must be bad....
My thoughts entirely. So negative for the first hour. I actually wondered if Pulis was playing at 'rope a dope' and allowing them to tire, then he changed the formation and just for a second it looked OK, but how wrong was I? Totally bereft of any ideas past the half way line and Rondon couldn't trap a bag of sand. Even Greg was rubbish. I cannot think of one positive thing to say about that game or us.....
Absolutely no control to be seen anywhere.....time for change I think.
I honestly don't see the point of playing like that, if you give a team all of that possession, they only have to get lucky once and we have no way back.
And the last thing we need is Manchester City next week..........
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Starting to think!
In my opinion it’s been obvious for a long time
No ive been happy for him to carry on but the last few games its become glaringly obvious its not working anymore
These would have been draws previously we are now losing them
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We have two negatives.
Pulis and Megson.
Both must get on that bus they try to park at every game.
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I thought the dinosaurs had died out. ...apparently not!
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I have held my peace about Pulis because i always hated how Stoke used to play under him but now heâ€s our manager. To be honest, i can put up with dross if we get some results out of it because winning is always the first priority. But now we watch dross and we are not winning or even drawing. Or if we are winning we keep letting teams back to draw with us when the whole point is to prevent the opposition from getting goals. So we have thrown away too many points already this season which can all be put down to the negative defensive and boring tactics of Pulis that its becoming really hard to justify his approach any more. So now i am going to change from “i dont particularly enjoy this but the ends justify the means†to “the pulis formula is just not working any more so if pulis doesnt start doing something different pretty soon, i see his record of avoiding relegation being in danger†The next step is “ Pulis Out†and i never say that lightly.
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Should we vote for a Pul-exit?
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Should we vote for a Pul-exit?
I vote yes
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Pulis flatters to deceive as a premiership manager. He's got no imagination, no intelligence and, I have to say, no courage. Disappointing tactics as usual but even so some disappointing performances tonight -Rodrigues, yet to see him have a good game, Chadli, no surprise there, Barry, his second poor game in a row, Philips, utter and complete deadloss for his short appearance, what has happened to him I wonder, Greg big reputation but no evidence so far of his match quality and he's definitely not 90 minutes fit, Livermore a poor imitation of Yacob if you ask me. But then, different tactics could change everything! The Baggie Boys need something to cheer about! Oh, and my advice to the owners is, don't give Pulis any money to spend (ie waste)
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All the players mentioned have had their skills bullied out of them.
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Chadli was booked for a trip on one of theirs - they consistently prevented our players fro getting forward by blocking and pulling and yes even tripping but only one out of five given. Rondon may have not lost or even won the ball back had he not been shoved in the back and then blocked off and brought down. Their goal was a direct resulyt of a poor decision. However the player should have been stopped well before he got to our area - and I mean stopped!
thats where the yac is so impressive in that role he would have stopped him one way or the other
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I can accept setting up defensively away from home, I watched it under Hodgeson & Megson and didn't complain and I can accept it under Pulis. The one thing I absolutely cannot stand is the complete and utter lack of willingness & ambition to go and look to win the game of football.
Time wasting in the 15th minute, 1 touch in their area the first half, again the lack of quality going forward was shocking I have genuinely watched Sunday League teams pass the ball around better than we can.
The only way you can put up with this turgid, unimaginative cr*p is if it's getting results, no win in 6 now & 2 points above the drop zone having only played Arsenal isn't going to cut it. He's taken us as far as he can the only thing he's going to do now is spunk millions of pounds to still play sh*te football and finish between 13th & 17th.
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Very poor first half. Looked better when Pulis changed it to 3-5-2 and Rodriguez has to score. Rondon then fouled but take nothing away from a fantastic winning goal.
Also expected much worse at final whistle from the fans but it didn't really transpire.
I am very cold and wet.
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Only one person responsible for this rubbish and that’s Pulis.
Complertely disagree there were at least eleven others responsible as well as Pulis. I don't include Hegazi or Dawson in this.
The system is dire the, the entertainment is even more dire and we can no longer get the clean sheets required to gain points. Something has to change and whilst I am not a pathological hater of TP {unlike many on here} i am now really worried that even with some better players than we have had for some time, including some younger legs on the pitch, we seem to be struggling to find a way of playing that allows the better players to play to their strengths. This is a management issue and I am far from sure that Pulis and co have the imagination or courage to be able solve the problem. I do however hope to be proven wrong. Oh and J Rod is surely no better finisher than any of the other front men either wide or central and is worse as a lone striker than Rondon or even HRK. Need a replacment asap, if Rondon had missed any of the chances this lad has thrown away in at least three matches, the trolls on here who call themselves Albion supporters would have been baying for his blood.
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Pulis flatters to deceive as a premiership manager. He's got no imagination, no intelligence and, I have to say, no courage. Disappointing tactics as usual but even so some disappointing performances tonight -Rodrigues, yet to see him have a good game, Chadli, no surprise there, Barry, his second poor game in a row, Philips, utter and complete deadloss for his short appearance, what has happened to him I wonder, Greg big reputation but no evidence so far of his match quality and he's definitely not 90 minutes fit, Livermore a poor imitation of Yacob if you ask me. But then, different tactics could change everything! The Baggie Boys need something to cheer about! Oh, and my advice to the owners is, don't give Pulis any money to spend (ie waste)
Agree on a lot of points there fella.
Yacob in for Livermore all day long
Did Barry play today?? Didnt even know he was playing if im honest
Phillips should be starting ahead of Rodriguez
Its upfront where we are at a loss, failing to sign a striker is costing us dearly. Rondon looks dead and buried should have taken the 32m from China
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Agree on a lot of points there fella.
Yacob in for Livermore all day long
Did Barry play today?? Didnt even know he was playing if im honest
Phillips should be starting ahead of Rodriguez
Its upfront where we are at a loss, failing to sign a striker is costing us dearly. Rondon looks dead and buried should have taken the 32m from China
Crickey i didn't realise it was 32 Mil. ..should have ripped their arm off..😕..be lucky to get double figures now...
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Shocking , poor and sick of playing like the poor relatives of the league......think times up.
Only postives Dawson , Foster and Hegazi who had a good game in all fairness.
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Would love to get the take of Legend, WoysWondeful and Jacko on that game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWD3GRgr02E
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Was truly wild
You spelt pooh wrong
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Agree on a lot of points there fella.
Yacob in for Livermore all day long
Did Barry play today?? Didnt even know he was playing if im honest
Phillips should be starting ahead of Rodriguez
Its upfront where we are at a loss, failing to sign a striker is costing us dearly. Rondon looks dead and buried should have taken the 32m from China
No matter what striker plays in a pulis set up isnt going to be prolific infront of goal as they are always too isolated.
What about the midfield of 3 defensive midfielders that can't seem to get the ball to the striker?
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Another gutless attempt to draw nil-nil from this shameless coward.
Enough is enough.
Get rid!
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Agree on a lot of points there fella.
Yacob in for Livermore all day long
Did Barry play today?? Didnt even know he was playing if im honest
Phillips should be starting ahead of Rodriguez
Its upfront where we are at a loss, failing to sign a striker is costing us dearly. Rondon looks dead and buried should have taken the 32m from China
Any forward needs the ball for him/them to have a impact on the game. Plus him/them need the ball to be played to his/there strengths, no chance of that happening the way we are playing.
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Any forward needs the ball for him/them to have a impact on the game. Plus him/them need the ball to be played to his/there strengths, no chance of that happening the way we are playing.
True but he has lost his ability to hold a ball up, he gets knocked off far too easily.
He looks a terrible player full stop at the min for me
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True but he has lost his ability to hold a ball up, he gets knocked off far too easily.
He looks a terrible player full stop at the min for me
I watched him very closely today mate. He controls around 75% of the punts that go anywhere near him. But the support for the lay off is terribly slow arriving. There is expecting him to hold it up and then there is expecting him to hold it up for 10 seconds. It's not going to happen.
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I watched him very closely today mate. He controls around 75% of the punts that go anywhere near him. But the support for the lay off is terribly slow arriving. There is expecting him to hold it up and then there is expecting him to hold it up for 10 seconds. It's not going to happen.
Good point but he seems to have lost his appetite, understandable with how we play and break for him
Perhaps under another coach he would look good playing a different way
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Good point but he seems to have lost his appetite, understandable with how we play and break for him
[/b]Perhaps under another coach he would look good playing a different way
Think the same could be said for any of Rondon, Phillips Chadli, Nyom, Gibbs, Greg, or Rodriguez, Tom.
He just does not get the best out of attacking players. They all spend most of their time defending apart from Rondon, who is in a different postcode!
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Didn't hear the match but saw updates and it sounded dire. I understand everyone's frustration and wanting Pulis sacked, but who realistically would Albion get? We're not massive club and don't even sell out the home games. I think the club are happy to grind out the odd result and settle for boring games as long as it keeps us where the money is. The board will always choose money over fan enjoyment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWD3GRgr02E
Jacko will always give his view and I respect him for it.
I have no time for the other two, mind
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Going to plan!
Irrespective as to who we play We look like a league two side playing away at a big club in the third round of the FA Cu.
I gotta disagree completely, a league two side against Man U. in a third round cup draw would without a doubt display more offensive intent than we do against anybody home or away. >:(
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Just got back. I've backed pulis since he arrived,but our put my hand up. I can't watch shi## like that anymore,know intent to win that match in the full 90 minutes absolute dross. Could of played for 3 hours & we wouldn't look like scoring. Watched Chris Houghtings Brighton Friday night. What a difference watching a team play like a team and have a go. Pulis! Know improvement by xmas, time for you to move on.
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I’ve always stuck up for pulis, always thought that if he goes tomorrow I won’t cry but when he’s here I’ll appreciate the job he’s done and support him but can’t stick up for the record now. He has two games to get 1 win, can’t see it next week so Huddersfield is make or break for him. Starting to think though it is time to go, don’t want to get in the situation of him being one game for the sack all the time because the atmosphere Will not be nice.
Whatever happens thank you Tony but I think it may be time!
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Didn't hear the match but saw updates and it sounded dire. I understand everyone's frustration and wanting Pulis sacked, but who realistically would Albion get? We're not massive club and don't even sell out the home games. I think the club are happy to grind out the odd result and settle for boring games as long as it keeps us where the money is. The board will always choose money over fan enjoyment.
my granny believes in going forward even if it is on a zimmer frame..I don't care who we get Pulis out now...
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Take nothing away from the goal? Rather than tackling each other our lot should have cleaned him out on the half way line
That performance was garbage. Complete and utter rubbish
I actually cannot describe how angry I was watching that.
And to urine me off even more, whilst these had their pampered journey home, we got ******* inebriated on as we left the ground and tried to find the station which was miles away. Pratting about in some park trying to find the station, which made the Black Patch look desirable is not what I had in mind
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Still feel miserable as hell after that rubbish, where do we go from here? If we get tonked by city (v likely) will we be one step closer to a change? Sadly, I'm wondering if our players really are good enough for this division. Wish we had the desire of Newcastle and Huddersfield, who actually seem to care!
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I think I'm more insane than all of you.
I got up at 3.30am Sydney time just to follow the BBC updates and the running commentary on this forum.
Pulis ball is getting harder and harder to defend.
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I think I'm more insane than all of you.
I got up at 3.30am Sydney time just to follow the BBC updates and the running commentary on this forum.
Pulis ball is getting harder and harder to defend.
That’s coz it’s indefensible now. Some kind of corner has been turned today. Where it leads, God knows. But it has to be turned.
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Didn't hear the match but saw updates and it sounded dire. I understand everyone's frustration and wanting Pulis sacked, but who realistically would Albion get? We're not massive club and don't even sell out the home games. I think the club are happy to grind out the odd result and settle for boring games as long as it keeps us where the money is. The board will always choose money over fan enjoyment.
I think the reason we don't sell out at home is so many supporters have been driven away by Pulls football. Get a new manager playing even half decent football I think a lot would return?
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I think I'm more insane than all of you.
I got up at 3.30am Sydney time just to follow the BBC updates and the running commentary on this forum.
Pulis ball is getting harder and harder to defend.
The above seems the best way to watch it!
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After yesterday looking at relegation odds a number of teams below or around us us are much bigger favourites to stay up than us, the bookies usually aren't far off
West Brom 7/2
Stoke 6/1
Leicester 14/1
Everton 20/1
Southampton 22/1
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If TP does not start setting up this team to win games against the likes of Southampton instead of setting up not to lose, I can see us ending up in the relegation scrap whereas a few weeks ago I thought no chance.
We just cannot close out games when we do get our noses in front and when we go behind we look dead and buried because we just cannot change our mindset, not getting a quality striker in is costing us dear, we are never going to create a glut of chances , but again yesterday Rodriguez had 2 good ones and Chadli hit woodwork.
Why Boufal was allowed to run that distance with the ball without anybody taking one for the team I do not know, but it is getting worse not better,
We have a squad of solid mid table premiership professionals here and even without a proven striker and creative midfielder, if he let them off the leash I still think we can get enough points , some of the drawn games may well turn into losses , but some will turn into wins its much better to get 6 points from 4 matches with 2 wins than just 4 points with 4 draws , or no points for 4 defeats
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Why Boufal was allowed to run that distance with the ball without anybody taking one for the team I do not know,
It didn't help that 2 of our own players took each other out instead of Boufal.
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It didn't help that 2 of our own players took each other out instead of Boufal.
As someone said on another thread, he wouldn't have got as far as our box if Yacob was playing
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If you were a neutral, you'd say justice was done in the end. This Southampton team is not the greatest I've seen by a long way, but at least they wanted to win the match.
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The above seems the best way to watch it!
Any chance we could lure Gary Rowett from Derby?
But has the Pulisaur given us too bad a rep?
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Any chance we could lure Gary Rowett from Derby?
But has the Pulisaur given us too bad a rep?
Rowett would be much of the same, no thanks
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As someone said on another thread, he wouldn't have got as far as our box if Yacob was playing
Totally agree with whoever said it.
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As someone said on another thread, he wouldn't have got as far as our box if Yacob was playing
Last year there is no way he would have got as far as our box regardless of whether Yacob was playing or not one of the lads would have cleaned him out and took one for the team.
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If you were a neutral, you'd say justice was done in the end. This Southampton team is not the greatest I've seen by a long way, but at least they wanted to win the match.
Agreed. Actually thought we looked a lot better and certainly more creative (relative to what came before) when we switched to a central back three. However; couldn't feel too aggrieved about conceding when things were looking quite even given the pummelling Southampton gave us for the opening 55 minutes.
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We are the only team in the Premiership not to have won a game in the last six.
We are bottom on current form even excluding the matches after 40 points last season.
We are one of the teams who have scored the fewest number of goals.
We have a lower rate of possession than any team in the Premiership.
Pulis now has the worst win rate percentage of any Manager we have ever had
We can't fill the stadium. (wonder why)
Wolverhampton could replace us next season.
A change of Manager springs to mind.
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Interesting to note the amount of posters who've stated their lad should have been taken out.
We have a player who effectively took one for the team v Watford and got slated.
Just saying..........
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I think we have to acknowledge that Boufal can produce special moments and this was one. He was wrong footing people and no-one got close enough to him to take him out.
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I think we have to acknowledge that Boufal can produce special moments and this was one. He was wrong footing people and no-one got close enough to him to take him out.
Very true, wonderful block by Dawson on Nyom though.
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Very true, wonderful block by Dawson on Nyom though.
Amazing that.
The only tackle we made all bloody game was on ourselves! :D
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I am still angry about this game. Was talking to someone who went who confirmed everything I thought about the game. He also told me how much money that debacle had cost him.
Given the abysmal performance it would be a nice gesture if the club refunded the tickets to all of those who went. Not going to happen I know but they paid to see a football match, not that apology of a display on Saturday.....
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People can complain about the money it cost them to go and watch the match but they can't expect a refund when they knew exactly what kind of performance they were going to see, its not like it was a one off. People have the choice whether they want to spend money to watch that rubbish.
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People can complain about the money it cost them to go and watch the match but they can't expect a refund when they knew exactly what kind of performance they were going to see, its not like it was a one off. People have the choice whether they want to spend money to watch that rubbish.
Agree entirely. I've not been to an away game since Pulis took charge, but I certainly wouldn't be going to them at the minute because you know exactly how it is going to play out, it is not like the 'football' over recent months hasn't been the same every week.
I will be going to the game on Saturday in hope that we somehow manage to sneak a result, but largely to watch Man City play as they are a joy to watch, whereas we are an utter embarrassment to watch currently.
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We are the only team in the Premiership not to have won a game in the last six.
We are bottom on current form even excluding the matches after 40 points last season.
We are one of the teams who have scored the fewest number of goals.
We have a lower rate of possession than any team in the Premiership.
Pulis now has the worst win rate percentage of any Manager we have ever had
We can't fill the stadium. (wonder why)
Wolverhampton could replace us next season.
A change of Manager springs to mind.
Yes, says it all doesn't it.
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Interesting to note the amount of posters who've stated their lad should have been taken out.
We have a player who effectively took one for the team v Watford and got slated.
Just saying..........
not me, I still don't think it was a foul by McClean, and we still should have dealt better with the freekick into the box (even though there was a shove in Hegazi's back).
On Saturday Boufal began his run inside his own half, someone could have taken him out around the halfway line, getting a booking no doubt but giving away a free kick in a non dangerous area. The defending for the goal was pathetic.
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Agree entirely. I've not been to an away game since Pulis took charge, but I certainly wouldn't be going to them at the minute because you know exactly how it is going to play out, it is not like the 'football' over recent months hasn't been the same every week.
I will be going to the game on Saturday in hope that we somehow manage to sneak a result, but largely to watch Man City play as they are a joy to watch, whereas we are an utter embarrassment to watch currently.
I only go to home games at the moment as I've already paid for a ticket and the people around me who I only see at the games try to have a laugh regardless of the rubbish on the pitch. My days of spending thousands every year to follow us away are well and truly over but come the end of the season it may well be my last year as a season ticket holder too.
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http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/907642770?-11200:789:0
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I only go to home games at the moment as I've already paid for a ticket and the people around me who I only see at the games try to have a laugh regardless of the rubbish on the pitch. My days of spending thousands every year to follow us away are well and truly over but come the end of the season it may well be my last year as a season ticket holder too.
That's my reason for going really, blind faith still at the minute and the fact that you sit by the same people for so many years it's more of a social thing than actually going to enjoy watching your team play.
In saying that, when we do not completely kill a game it can still be an enjoyable game to watch. We were awful against Watford but I still enjoyed the game as I thought Watford were superb on the day and their incisive passing and movement was good watch, I think the same will apply on Saturday so I can take some enjoyment out of the game, even if I can't out of my own team currently.
The West Ham/Stoke/Bournemouth home games were just watching paint dry exercises so I got very little enjoyment out of them other than the two goals we scored across the three games and Jay Rod looking exciting in the Bournemouth game which has since disappeared
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People can complain about the money it cost them to go and watch the match but they can't expect a refund when they knew exactly what kind of performance they were going to see, its not like it was a one off. People have the choice whether they want to spend money to watch that rubbish.
I think that if they’d have known beforehand how poor we were going to be then many would not have gone. You are right insofar as it has happened before, but given that we won this fixture last year and they are not exactly pulling up trees at the moment, I would have gone with the expectation that we would at least ‘have a go’ at them.
The refund will never happen as it is down to the individual to go. The club would never entertain a refund as it is admitting their guilt.
My friend won’t be going again in a hurry and I suspect many others won’t either. Lack of support may be one of the few things Mr Williams and co will understand.
If this translates to the terraces on Saturday then we will see developments I am sure.
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I think that if they’d have known beforehand how poor we were going to be then many would not have gone. You are right insofar as it has happened before, but given that we won this fixture last year and they are not exactly pulling up trees at the moment, I would have gone with the expectation that we would at least ‘have a go’ at them.
The refund will never happen as it is down to the individual to go. The club would never entertain a refund as it is admitting their guilt.
My friend won’t be going again in a hurry and I suspect many others won’t either. Lack of support may be one of the few things Mr Williams and co will understand.
If this translates to the terraces on Saturday then we will see developments I am sure.
Kev with the money that comes in from Sky do you think they are worried about a couple of thousand not turning up because of the way we play. People have bought season tickets and I am sure many of them aye going waste the money they have spent.
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Kev with the money that comes in from Sky do you think they are worried about a couple of thousand not turning up because of the way we play. People have bought season tickets and I am sure many of them aye going waste the money they have spent.
I'm sure you are right and it is inconsequential but, any successful business has to have pride and belief in it's product surely.
They must watch this dross and wonder where the money went that they invested in the summer, at the very least.
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Rowett would be much of the same, no thanks
Frizl Palace : I hope you're not expecting Ancelotti to come to the Hawthorns
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Frizl Palace : I hope you're not expecting Ancelotti to come to the Hawthorns
Of course not; doubt Ancelotti would be able to do it with a lesser calibre of players in any event so don't think he would be the right fit with us
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Sources close to West Brom boss Tony Pulis have spoken of their unease at how passionately the manager has begun railing against the sport of football.
It has been an open secret for some years that there’s no love lost between Pulis and football, but the intensity of the Welshman’s animosity towards the game and all who play it has recently become a worry.
“There was a time when Tony would at least appear interested in football and could engage in smalltalk about the game when needed, which is a useful skill when you’re a football manager by profession,†Martin Bradshaw, the author of Pulis’s biography That’s The Sound Of Da Pulis, told FourFourTwo.
“Of course, as soon as he was behind closed doors he’d revert back to favoured topics like lacrosse, opera and zero-point gravity, but he’d at least be willing to feign interest in the game for an hour here or there.
But lately he’s taken to referring to football as ‘rubbish ball’ quite openly, even in press conferences and in front of the players. He’s also banned all talk of football from the dinner table and, more worryingly, the training ground.â€
Irritation and fury
During West Brom’s 1-0 defeat to Southampton, Pulis cut an increasingly agitated figure on the sidelines, partly due to the trace levels of football on show and partly due to frequent buffering during a science podcast he likes to listen to during games to ‘take the edge off’.
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Frizl Palace : I hope you're not expecting Ancelotti to come to the Hawthorns
if Lai was serious then why not
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if Lai was serious then why not
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Need to set your expectations a lot lower mate. Either of the last 2 English Palace managers would head the list.
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I think we have to acknowledge that Boufal can produce special moments and this was one. He was wrong footing people and no-one got close enough to him to take him out.
I could have done it from the other side of the pitch, had I been playing. Funny how the older you get the better you was.
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As someone said on another thread, he wouldn't have got as far as our box if Yacob was playing
i know we are not no where enough on the front foot sitting too deep most of each game but its no coincidance since yacob has not been a regular starter we dont look nowhere near as solid at the back he"s the best at what he does that coupled with ball retention are the main concerns