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« Reply #1750 on: January 26, 2021, 10:05:18 PM »
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That’s in Big Sam’s first 4 home games.

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« Reply #1751 on: January 26, 2021, 10:07:10 PM »
Starting to looks like the Pardew side (the Wolves game apart).

Still, atleast now poorly run clubs like ours might think twice about Allardyce and may instead try somebody a bit different. Need to make sure Allardyce stays just long enough to get that 'R' next to his name.

Agreed. The Pardew team got that result at Anfield in the FA Cup like we got a result at wolves but the comparisons are similar except I dont think under pardew as poor as we were we took hammerings all the time like this

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« Reply #1752 on: January 26, 2021, 10:07:32 PM »
I agree with you i said at the time if he keeps Jones it will cost him his job. Just trying to say i can see history repeating itself.

Oh yeah I knew what you meant, what I was getting at was I'd hope Mozza wouldn't make the same mistake if that transpired.
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« Reply #1753 on: January 26, 2021, 10:07:38 PM »
Debate Big Sam all you want, but we can't talk about potential replacements  when the incumbent is in place.
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« Reply #1754 on: January 26, 2021, 10:07:47 PM »
If Sam thinks showing up these cowards to the board will get any emotion or reaction from them he's sorely mistaken just like Bilic was.

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« Reply #1755 on: January 26, 2021, 10:07:58 PM »
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That’s in Big Sam’s first 4 home games.

Big Sam OUT.
Lai OUT.


With supposedly one of the best defensive coaches around

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« Reply #1756 on: January 26, 2021, 10:09:11 PM »
Was Bilic the fall guy for the boardroom: Yes
Was it a waste of time to sack Bilic: Yes
Did a section of our fan base lose the plot: Yes
Is Allardyce getting as much out of these players as Bilic: No
Would either manager have kept us up: No
Would it help to now sack Allardyce: No
Can the squad compete in the premiership: No
Did the lack of funds condemn us to relegation: Yes
 

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« Reply #1757 on: January 26, 2021, 10:11:11 PM »
so Sam has deployed operation rope a dope,  next game we bounce off the ropes and bloody Fulhams nose !   Well its an idea !
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« Reply #1758 on: January 26, 2021, 10:11:42 PM »
Was Bilic the fall guy for the boardroom: Yes
Was it a waste of time to sack Bilic: Yes
Did a section of our fan base lose the plot: Yes
Is Allardyce getting as much out of these players as Bilic: No
Would either manager have kept us up: No
Would it help to now sack Allardyce: No
Can the squad compete in the premiership: No
Did the lack of funds condemn us to relegation: Yes
 
No chance in the Championship either.
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« Reply #1759 on: January 26, 2021, 10:11:59 PM »
so Sam has deployed operation rope a dope,  next game we bounce off the ropes and bloody Fulhams nose !   Well its an idea !

We're certainly not aiming to finish above anyone on goal difference.

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« Reply #1760 on: January 26, 2021, 10:12:07 PM »
The joke was appointing Allardyce in the first place.
His record speaks for itself , those above thinking they as usual could do it on the cheap as usual is the joke .
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« Reply #1761 on: January 26, 2021, 10:12:30 PM »
Was Bilic the fall guy for the boardroom: Yes
Was it a waste of time to sack Bilic: Yes
Did a section of our fan base lose the plot: Yes
Is Allardyce getting as much out of these players as Bilic: No
Would either manager have kept us up: No
Would it help to now sack Allardyce: No
Can the squad compete in the premiership: No
Did the lack of funds condemn us to relegation: Yes

I’d agree with everything other than not sacking Allardyce, I don’t see the point in him being in charge given its highly unlikely he won’t be hear next season anyway.
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« Reply #1762 on: January 26, 2021, 10:12:35 PM »
Was Bilic the fall guy for the boardroom: Yes
Was it a waste of time to sack Bilic: Yes
Did a section of our fan base lose the plot: Yes
Is Allardyce getting as much out of these players as Bilic: No
Would either manager have kept us up: No
Would it help to now sack Allardyce: No
Can the squad compete in the premiership: No
Did the lack of funds condemn us to relegation: Yes

Agreed. Dowling and Ken thought We will get in the man whose never been relegated and thought we would suddenly become a good team

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« Reply #1763 on: January 26, 2021, 10:13:59 PM »
Agreed. Dowling and Ken thought We will get in the man whose never been relegated and thought we would suddenly become a good team

You might be onto something there as they seem to have no understanding of football on any level.

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« Reply #1764 on: January 26, 2021, 10:14:07 PM »
 
No chance in the Championship either.
Thank you Dowling!

Dowling has to work with the meagre budget set. The problem is above him. We should have invested more this summer, realising that 1/3 years budget wasn't enough to bring the squad up to a competitive level. Or secondly accepted relegation and done a Norwich. Instead we spent pennies and then blamed the manager for the team not being good enough. Hence new manager and the team still isn't good enough and we still have no money to spend!

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« Reply #1765 on: January 26, 2021, 10:15:03 PM »
His record speaks for itself , those above thinking they as usual could do it on the cheap as usual is the joke .

If he was taking over from Pulis it would make sense.  Taking over this group of players who are weak defensively and expecting them to defend constantly was never going to work.  You don't expose the weakest part of your entire team on purpose.

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« Reply #1766 on: January 26, 2021, 10:18:33 PM »
Sam played his part in our relegation to division 3 in 1991 and it looks like hes playing his part in another disastrous season in our illustrious history!

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« Reply #1767 on: January 26, 2021, 10:20:27 PM »
God I'm seething I tell you. That absolute backside Guardiola pulling Gündoğan before he picked up the clean sheet points for me fantasy team.

Us? Allardyce? Yes, whatever totally standard.
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« Reply #1768 on: January 26, 2021, 10:21:40 PM »
If he was taking over from Pulis it would make sense.  Taking over this group of players who are weak defensively and expecting them to defend constantly was never going to work.  You don't expose the weakest part of your entire team on purpose.
Funds mate , 3 players I think would be enough to transform this side at a push .
It won't happen now , even getting rid of quite a few .....clear to me its just cost cutting from above .
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« Reply #1769 on: January 26, 2021, 10:22:00 PM »
Dowling has to work with the meagre budget set. The problem is above him. We should have invested more this summer, realising that 1/3 years budget wasn't enough to bring the squad up to a competitive level. Or secondly accepted relegation and done a Norwich. Instead we spent pennies and then blamed the manager for the team not being good enough. Hence new manager and the team still isn't good enough and we still have no money to spend!

With our budget you need good scouting. It appears that we don't. Surely this is down to Dowling.
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« Reply #1770 on: January 26, 2021, 10:24:43 PM »
With our budget you need good scouting. It appears that we don't. Surely this is down to Dowling.
Only one thing to add... Lai the blinkered idiot

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« Reply #1771 on: January 26, 2021, 10:24:50 PM »
Funds mate , 3 players I think would be enough to transform this side at a push .
It won't happen now , even getting rid of quite a few .....clear to me its just cost cutting from above .

I have thought that this could be a situation where the club have accepted they cannot compete and Allardyces real role is to make us as attractive as possible to a suitor for a championship club "with potential"
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« Reply #1772 on: January 26, 2021, 10:25:59 PM »
I don't understand why Allardyce hasn't brought in 4 or 5 players already.  These players are absolutely shot mentally not even looking at ability.  They are carrying huge scars from the recent poundings.

Allardyce has been lazy in recruitment.  There are hundreds of thousands of footballers out there.  To actually wait 26 days of the transfer window and do nothing in the last 18 days is just negligence.  Snodgrass was signed on 8th Jan!

To actually play Sawyers & Livermore and not appreciate that it's a huge problem area is just inconceivable.

Farting around with Benteke, Musa and other strikers when Robinson is one of our best players.

Oh and nice to bring on Phillips and HRK in the 2nd half tonight....

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« Reply #1773 on: January 26, 2021, 10:29:02 PM »
I don't understand why Allardyce hasn't brought in 4 or 5 players already.  These players are absolutely shot mentally not even looking at ability.  They are carrying huge scars from the recent poundings.

Allardyce has been lazy in recruitment.  There are hundreds of thousands of footballers out there.  To actually wait 26 days of the transfer window and do nothing in the last 18 days is just negligence.  Snodgrass was signed on 8th Jan!

To actually play Sawyers & Livermore and not appreciate that it's a huge problem area is just inconceivable.

Farting around with Benteke, Musa and other strikers when Robinson is one of our best players.

Oh and nice to bring on Phillips and HRK in the 2nd half tonight....

Amazed anyone still thinks Allardyce does the deals tbh. He'd have had 7 or 8 in by now if it was up to him.
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« Reply #1774 on: January 26, 2021, 10:30:13 PM »
Amazed anyone still thinks Allardyce does the deals tbh. He'd have had 7 or 8 in by now if it was up to him.

Surely the same could be said about Bilic?
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