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Who would you prefer as next Manager?

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Re: Next Head Coach Thread
« Reply #1475 on: January 14, 2025, 02:53:34 PM »
Word is up here thankfully for us,Irvine going back to Everton with Moyes!

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« Reply #1476 on: January 14, 2025, 02:57:24 PM »
May get some stick for this but I'd be tempted to hold off appointing someone till in the summer rather than just appointing a head coach for the sake of it.

Let Brunt and Abella have a good go for the remainder of the season and then go from there.

Will give us plenty of time without having to rush an appointment.
I wouldn't disagree.  Bring in Mowbray to supervise till the end of the season.  It would be better than rushing a dud.

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« Reply #1477 on: January 14, 2025, 03:10:33 PM »
I think the Mowbray overseer role for the remainder of the season makes sense. Unless they come up with a long term belter of a candidate, cant see one on the horizon though.

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« Reply #1478 on: January 14, 2025, 03:20:31 PM »
I really hope you are right (and I suspect that you are).

Moyes and Potter have got new roles anyway but yes I think they and Cooper were also out of our scope.
However
Cooper has a promotion on his CV,you would expect him to back himself to repeat?
If we were offering say 1.5m a year…and he wanted 3-4m a year,there is nothing stopping us putting him on the 1.5 with a 4m bonus for promotion this year dropping to 3m if next year …
There aren’t many gaps elsewhere for him to fill…in football being active /involved/relevant has a value ….im not saying id want him particularly…but it’s not that far fetched is it ??
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« Reply #1479 on: January 14, 2025, 03:38:36 PM »
remember whilst all this is going on there's no player recruitment , i wouldn't put money on us going up via the playoffs anyway. so let Brunt and co keep the gig. they should keep us up
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« Reply #1480 on: January 14, 2025, 03:56:50 PM »
Dood saying that we have had initial, informal chat with Rob Edwards people to see what he thinks and club also waiting to see what Mowbrays scans say.

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« Reply #1481 on: January 14, 2025, 03:59:08 PM »
At the very latest I had expected/wanted someone in place for the Stoke game with them having had this week to train them for it and get them started on their new ideas.

Very disappointing for it to be Tuesday evening and us seemingly no closer to that goal.

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« Reply #1482 on: January 14, 2025, 04:01:54 PM »
The ITKs saying after initial contact it's unlikely Dyche will be having formal talks.

Now that really is no surprise.....

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« Reply #1483 on: January 14, 2025, 04:08:39 PM »
Now that really is no surprise.....

I know but some Albion fans think he's beneath us.

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« Reply #1484 on: January 14, 2025, 04:10:24 PM »
I know but some Albion fans think he's beneath us.

I don’t think anyone thinks he’s beneath us, more that his style of ‘football’ is not what they want to see.
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« Reply #1485 on: January 14, 2025, 04:17:13 PM »
I don’t think anyone thinks he’s beneath us, more than his style of ‘football’ is not what they want to see.

That's fair enough if you don't like his style, I don't care personally, I like any style that gets us as many PPG as we can, but I've seen people suggest we would be turning him down across social media which is nuts

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« Reply #1486 on: January 14, 2025, 04:25:17 PM »
That's fair enough if you don't like his style, I don't care personally, I like any style that gets us as many PPG as we can, but I've seen people suggest we would be turning him down across social media which is nuts

I know what you mean, and it is why I continued to back CC, though I don't think the football under CC was anywhere near as bad as a lot of people were making out. With Dyche, I am in the camp of not wanting him as our manager, rightly or wrongly. I just do not like watching what he has to offer.

However, a Burnley supporting friend of mine would love him back as their manager so go figure.

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« Reply #1487 on: January 14, 2025, 04:28:15 PM »
However
Cooper has a promotion on his CV,you would expect him to back himself to repeat?
If we were offering say 1.5m a year…and he wanted 3-4m a year,there is nothing stopping us putting him on the 1.5 with a 4m bonus for promotion this year dropping to 3m if next year …
There aren’t many gaps elsewhere for him to fill…in football being active /involved/relevant has a value ….im not saying id want him particularly…but it’s not that far fetched is it ??
That's an interesting point. Personally I'd love Cooper in, did a great job getting Forest promoted.
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« Reply #1488 on: January 14, 2025, 04:37:17 PM »
I know what you mean, and it is why I continued to back CC, though I don't think the football under CC was anywhere near as bad as a lot of people were making out. With Dyche, I am in the camp of not wanting him as our manager, rightly or wrongly. I just do not like watching what he has to offer.

However, a Burnley supporting friend of mine would love him back as their manager so go figure.

I don't think Dyche is as bad as made out to be, same as CC. Was more the fact that people think we would turn him down and not vice versa.

Got a feeling club is waiting on Mowbrays results in 2 days

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« Reply #1489 on: January 14, 2025, 04:40:39 PM »
I'd love us to get Mowbray. Honestly, from a nostalgia perspective as much as anything. There was rarely a dull moment with him but we shall see.

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« Reply #1490 on: January 14, 2025, 04:46:05 PM »
We had a first choice which came unstuck at the last, we now seem paralysed by inertia , what happened to the second choice ? I can understand wanting to sound out Edwards and Dyche but in all likelihood that is a couple of phone calls to agents.Ignoring them then surely the second choice becomes the first choice and we should be moving on him
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« Reply #1491 on: January 14, 2025, 04:46:24 PM »
I don't think Dyche is as bad as made out to be, same as CC. Was more the fact that people think we would turn him down and not vice versa.

Got a feeling club is waiting on Mowbrays results in 2 days

Oh, even if we wanted him, I don't see any way that Dyche would come to us right now so agree with you there.

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« Reply #1492 on: January 14, 2025, 04:49:07 PM »
I'd love us to get Mowbray. Honestly, from a nostalgia perspective as much as anything. There was rarely a dull moment with him but we shall see.

I don't think it's a nostalgia thing, I genuinely think most of the time it's bad to go back but he's a good manager at this level and would be considered by most upper champo teams.

I think his style of play would also suit our squad better.

At this point, frustrating as it is we are only 2 days away from knowing whether he's coming back into management or not.

Club should continue over next 48nhours as if he's not though for me, just in case

If  Rob Edwards is interested then interview him too.

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« Reply #1493 on: January 14, 2025, 05:05:09 PM »
Till the end of the season Brunt and Abella are the only sensible option.
We are not going to get promotion and we’re not going to get relegated plus the attacking football under B & A has markedly improved.  My second vote was for Mowbray but after suffering a serious illness, not sure if he would be the answer.
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« Reply #1494 on: January 14, 2025, 05:11:42 PM »
Till the end of the season Brunt and Abella are the only sensible option.
We are not going to get promotion and we’re not going to get relegated plus the attacking football under B & A has markedly improved.  My second vote was for Mowbray but after suffering a serious illness, not sure if he would be the answer.

This is as good a chance as we have of making the play offs as we will have for years to come given our ever dwindling and uncompetitive finances, it would be madness to waste it.

Also hardly fair to expect Brunt and Abella carrying on doing the jobs of 3 other people. No way Abella can be doing his job as an analyst and taking on all the coaching and tactics side of things as is currently happening. Brunt has no coaching experience in the first place and is only there as a figurehead.

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« Reply #1495 on: January 14, 2025, 05:14:37 PM »
This is as good a chance as we have of making the play offs as we will have for years to come given our ever dwindling and uncompetitive finances, it would be madness to waste it.

Also hardly fair to expect Brunt and Abella carrying on doing the jobs of 3 other people. No way Abella can be doing his job as an analyst and taking on all the coaching and tactics side of things as is currently happening. Brunt has no coaching experience in the first place and is only there as a figurehead.

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« Reply #1496 on: January 14, 2025, 05:24:50 PM »
I would personally absolutely love it if they got Mowbray back and he was well enough ,feel like it would bring a massive good feel factor

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« Reply #1497 on: January 14, 2025, 05:36:56 PM »
The only clarity I have out of all of this is a gratitude for what Brunty and Abella have been doing in this time.

Whether they've wanted the task or not, and however long they have to do it, I appreciate the 'teeth' they've added to our approach to the game.
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« Reply #1498 on: January 14, 2025, 06:00:18 PM »
This is as good a chance as we have of making the play offs as we will have for years to come given our ever dwindling and uncompetitive finances, it would be madness to waste it.

Also hardly fair to expect Brunt and Abella carrying on doing the jobs of 3 other people. No way Abella can be doing his job as an analyst and taking on all the coaching and tactics side of things as is currently happening. Brunt has no coaching experience in the first place and is only there as a figurehead.

Ever dwindling finances? As far as I'm aware the owners have a Bob or two and are allready subsidising the club.

FFP dictates we need to reduce our wage bill and limit transfer business.  We had allready reduced it by 25% in the summer.  This year we will see further high earners drop off including Grady, Swift (and Semi).  Barts is out of contract but may get another year on reduced wages. 

I agree that we cant compete with the relegated clubs but they are miles ahead of us allready.  That boat has sailed with the last of the Parachute money that Val lashed on Dike and then Bruce lashed on wages.

With good recruitment we will continue to compete for top 6 , which is the current aim of the owners.   Comparative to where we were a year ago we are in a good financial position and there is cause for optimism.

Of course, fail to bring in a striker and/or manager in Jan and I may rethink .


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« Reply #1499 on: January 14, 2025, 06:24:04 PM »
Dyche bookies favourite now, based on what I don't know, but most on here will say no.

If we can't get him in then I would leave Brunt and Abella in charge, especially with the Maja injury news.