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Who would you prefer as next Manager?

Sean Dyche
Cooper, Steve
Lijnders, Pep
O'Neil, Gary
Schumacher, Steven
Tudor, Igor
Eustace, John
Grosso, Fabio
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Hake, Rene
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« Reply #1425 on: January 13, 2025, 10:16:02 PM »
Yep he says he gets results back from a scan in 3 days time (this coming Thursday) and if clear he will be looking to get back into management straight away and get on with his life.

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« Reply #1426 on: January 13, 2025, 10:16:29 PM »
We wouldn’t sign an injured player so why would we want TM who has suffered from serious health issues? I hope TM realises that his health is more important than another pressurised job.

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« Reply #1427 on: January 13, 2025, 10:21:05 PM »
We wouldn’t sign an injured player so why would we want TM who has suffered from serious health issues? I hope TM realises that his health is more important than another pressurised job.

I assume he feels more than up to it pending his last scan results.

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« Reply #1428 on: January 13, 2025, 10:24:55 PM »
I would be open to Mowbray but my concern is that quite often a previously successful manager returning to a club doesn't have the same impact the second time around.

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« Reply #1429 on: January 13, 2025, 10:28:12 PM »
Bangcok,ask Moyes at Everton,they're both quite happy

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« Reply #1430 on: January 13, 2025, 10:29:23 PM »
I would be open to Mowbray but my concern is that quite often a previously successful manager returning to a club doesn't have the same impact the second time around.
It’s been a while. Maybe a contract until the end of the season would suit both parties. TM gets to see if he’s up for the challenge after his health issues and we get more time to decide which direction we want to go in.

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« Reply #1431 on: January 13, 2025, 10:30:41 PM »
The whole Club has changed completely since he was here last, I don’t see a problem with him coming back, except his fitness/ health. I would much rather have him, if fit then a one dimensional Dinosaur like Dyche.

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« Reply #1432 on: January 13, 2025, 10:31:04 PM »
Out of the remaining bunch l can't decide between Cooper or Fischer. Probably of no consequence as, we won't get either. I'm at a, loss now. I don't want Dyche, to me that would be, a return to the bad old days.

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« Reply #1433 on: January 13, 2025, 10:34:22 PM »
The thought of Mowbray returning fills me with an odd sort of trepidation to be honest. We've moved on, he's been unwell and I would hate for a second spell for him to end badly: whether by getting fired for not being good enough or by his health flaring up again.

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« Reply #1434 on: January 13, 2025, 10:50:10 PM »
Personally would be happy with Fischer, Cooper, Mowbray or Dyche to be fair.

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« Reply #1435 on: January 13, 2025, 10:51:39 PM »
I enjoyed the football we played under Mowbray and he seems a thoroughly decent bloke, but given his age, I would prefer we looked more to the future. We are not in a relegation battle, so there is no real reason for a stopgap manager to bridge over. Why delay the re-build? Ideally, I think we need to find the next Carlos Corberan, but I accept that may not easily fall into place. So, given some of the names mentioned on here, I think we could do far worse than Mowbray.
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« Reply #1436 on: January 13, 2025, 11:01:36 PM »
I enjoyed the football we played under Mowbray and he seems a thoroughly decent bloke, but given his age, I would prefer we looked more to the future. We are not in a relegation battle, so there is no real reason for a stopgap manager to bridge over. Why delay the re-build? Ideally, I think we need to find the next Carlos Corberan, but I accept that may not easily fall into place. So, given some of the names mentioned on here, I think we could do far worse than Mowbray.
My reason for delaying it is that Head Coach is the most important part in the jigsaw and we are clearly struggling to find that piece. I’d rather wait than make a huge mistake and if he’s willing and able TM gives us that option.

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« Reply #1437 on: January 14, 2025, 12:38:09 AM »
I base my comment on the fact that there are other clubs who have more financial clout than us. I would argue that Luton, Burnley, Sheffield Utd, Leeds, Sunderland, Watford and Norwich are all able to spend more than us based on parachute money or revenue. A new Head Coach has to compete with this.

Forget Luton, Watford and Norwich - all basket cases. 

I think we accept the top 4 have opened a gap atm which will be difficult to close but I don't see much difference in the quality of the squads.  I think I'm right in saying we have only lost one game this season to a top 6 club (0-1 Boro).

And don't forget we have some expensive legacy/quality in our squad which may yet prove crucial this season.

p.s I think we are both singing from the same hymn sheet basically   ;)

 


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« Reply #1438 on: January 14, 2025, 01:23:20 AM »
If Mowbray is fit then I would have him back in a heartbeat. He is 61 and while he is no spring chicken he is one of those coaches that lives and breathes football I think he has a good 4 or 5 years left in the game so I wouldn't regard him as a stop-gap appointment. I am not sure whether or not I am being unusually sentimental but his record stands scrutiny and he has taken on some challenging positions. It speaks volumes for the man that is generally well regarded by every club he has worked for.

If vibes alone could carry us to promotion the return of the Mogga would have us 10 points clear by April. Unfortunately the rather awkward fact is that he hasn't got a team anywhere near as good as the one he lead to title and vibes don't cut it.
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« Reply #1439 on: January 14, 2025, 04:00:48 AM »
Mowbray is a great man, and he gave us fantastic football, if he is the answer then so be it. Still nervous that an Alan Irvine type appointment may be possible.

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« Reply #1440 on: January 14, 2025, 06:22:08 AM »
IF Mowbray is fit I’d jump at him. It’s impossible to not be sentimental about his Albion team as it was just amazing to watch but objectively his recent record at Sunderland and Blackburn are enough of a reason for us to seriously look at him as an 18 month appointment. Experienced at this level, knows the club, no work permit issues ; we could build a younger coaching team around him. Also why not also get Roy involved - partly tongue in cheek but good clubs build legacies

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« Reply #1441 on: January 14, 2025, 07:13:28 AM »
I think that’s very much overblown. Managing that Everton squad with no budget and Burnley in the prem their only chance of survival was to be extremely well organised, well coached and hard to beat.

Job of the manager is to get the most out of squad available. He got Burnley promoted in 2014 with them scoring 96 goals. He got them back up again in 2016 at title winners but only scoring 72, but nobody else in the league scored more either (odd season). He also got little Burnley into Europe in the PL and kept Everton up, which was no mean feat with that terrible squad and point deductions. I’d be very happy and regard it a coup if we got him.
No to Dyche, he only knows one way to play and that’s not enjoyable to watch. His stats at Everton this season are grim and that’s by design. He’s in the Pulis mould and we’ve been there done that. As for Burnley scoring 96 goals in 2013-14? Haven’t checked it but I doubt that very much, Dyche teams don’t average 2+ goals a game.

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« Reply #1442 on: January 14, 2025, 07:26:17 AM »
‘You score three and we’ll score four!’ was Tony Mowbray’s philosophy when last with us.
Fine if you’ve got the goal-scoring players and creative attacking midfielders in your squad both of which we do not have.
Hopefully, Tony’s CT/MRI scans will come back negative for his bowel cancer and at some point he can return to the work he loves but I’m not totally convinced it should be with West Bromwich Albion FC just yet.
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« Reply #1443 on: January 14, 2025, 07:45:50 AM »
It's no good trying to point out the facts.

He has been labelled a "dinosaur" and his past achievements and experience are from the Jurassic age and don't matter a jot.

Forgot that we haven't got a pot to urinate in, we need someone to romp the league playing entertaining football on a budget.

Personally never called him a dinosaur. I merely pointed out facts like Everton are the 2nd lowest scorers and 4th lowest creators.

 In fact Dyche sides rarely score more than the equivalent of a goal a game in the Premier league.
He may be pragmatic but his football will be dire and an extremely hard watch.

Just because we haven't got a "pot to urinate" in doesn't mean we can't hire someone who can play more attacking football while still being defensively solid.
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« Reply #1444 on: January 14, 2025, 07:53:08 AM »
No to Dyche, he only knows one way to play and that’s not enjoyable to watch. His stats at Everton this season are grim and that’s by design. He’s in the Pulis mould and we’ve been there done that. As for Burnley scoring 96 goals in 2013-14? Haven’t checked it but I doubt that very much, Dyche teams don’t average 2+ goals a game.
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« Reply #1445 on: January 14, 2025, 07:55:52 AM »
It's no good trying to point out the facts.

He has been labelled a "dinosaur" and his past achievements and experience are from the Jurassic age and don't matter a jot.

Forgot that we haven't got a pot to urinate in, we need someone to romp the league playing entertaining football on a budget.
You're having a laugh if you think Dyche is going to come to the Albion His wages would be too much and he wouldn't want to come to us anyway. As you said we are on a budget without a pot to pee in. Moyes, Potter, Cooper are sadly out of our league right now.

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« Reply #1446 on: January 14, 2025, 08:00:27 AM »
You're having a laugh if you think Dyche is going to come to the Albion His wages would be too much and he wouldn't want to come to us anyway. As you said we are on a budget without a pot to pee in. Moyes, Potter, Cooper are sadly out of our league right now.

I really hope you are right (and I suspect that you are).

Moyes and Potter have got new roles anyway but yes I think they and Cooper were also out of our scope.
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« Reply #1447 on: January 14, 2025, 08:00:39 AM »
You're having a laugh if you think Dyche is going to come to the Albion His wages would be too much and he wouldn't want to come to us anyway. As you said we are on a budget without a pot to pee in. Moyes, Potter, Cooper are sadly out of our league right now.
And not available to us anyway for whatever reason so why name them….
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« Reply #1448 on: January 14, 2025, 08:04:54 AM »
And not available to us anyway for whatever reason so why name them….
Because about a week ago people were arguing for Moyes and Potter as they are for Dyche now.
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« Reply #1449 on: January 14, 2025, 09:08:50 AM »
Regarding Wicky, I'm not at all sad that he's not coming to the Black Country.  I wasn't impressed  by his stage-managed training video posted here.  He seemed to be shouting encouragement without doing any actual coaching or giving any instruction.  Contrast that with the initial videos of the  Corberan era.  He had the back line constantly shifting from side to side against the attacking threat and explaining what he wanted in other situations.  Basic coaching I know but the team needed that when he took over.

Bullet dodged - or just bad aim.

Football management is a truly stressful occupation.  Mowbray's true friends should try and dissuade him from returning.  Great guy but would need young assistants.
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