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Who would you prefer as next Manager?

Sean Dyche
Cooper, Steve
Lijnders, Pep
O'Neil, Gary
Schumacher, Steven
Tudor, Igor
Eustace, John
Grosso, Fabio
Fischer, Urs
Hake, Rene
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« Reply #900 on: January 08, 2025, 11:54:07 AM »
An interesting debate about Dyche, Southgate, Cooper, Potter and Postecoglou. It is a bit like me having a debate about which Super Model I'll be taking out on a date tonight. None of those mentioned will be turning up at the Hawthorns as Head Coach while we are in the Championship and it would be debatable as to whether they would if we were in the Premier League.

The realistic options are the likes of Wicky, Schumacher, and Eustace. I suspect Fischer is a bit of a stretch given his recent past but more realistic than those mentioned at the start of this post. In terms of the realistic options I am hard pressed to say with any conviction that one candidate stands out from the rest.

In terms of how pragmatic or otherwise we expect our new Head Coach to be I am not sure there is a whole lot of difference between the 3 above. In a Dyche v Postecoglou battle maybe you would hire Postecoglou to get out of the Championship and replace him with Dyche to survive in the Premier League but now we are back to Super Models and I need to make some phone calls....




 
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« Reply #901 on: January 08, 2025, 11:56:58 AM »
In terms of attack-mindedness, Michael Flynn and Ryan Lowe stand out among managers who are attainable. Do they make more sense to you?
In recent days there have been quite a few managers mentioned,I can’t claim to know chapter and verse on all of them but I think the time was right for change.
I see in the current interim team a bit less conservatism and slightly more attacking style along with usage of previously ignored players..
But for a bad lapse in injury time we get a good result in Swansea and we don’t look too bad ..it’s the negative games this season like Cardiff/Oxford/Milwall that have stopped us pushing top 3 .
To answer your question I don’t know that much about either of them but I’ve not heard them even being mentioned for consideration.
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« Reply #902 on: January 08, 2025, 12:02:43 PM »
Well I'm rooting for Wicky. Hope that isn't unrealistic to anyone.   I'm sure whoever it is appointed they wont be everyone's cup of tea. I just hope whoever we get they have the same level of dedication as Carlos and the the same win ratio.

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« Reply #903 on: January 08, 2025, 12:20:21 PM »
who said  CC was sacked? I was talking about the spurs manager getting sacked and how he might suit those supporters who like attacking managers. Not sure what you are on about.

Probably the Corberan detractors comment. Thought that was clear.
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« Reply #904 on: January 08, 2025, 12:40:19 PM »
Probably the Corberan detractors comment. Thought that was clear.
is detractors such a heinous slurr? I will rephrase, those midly suggesting perhaps a slightly more positive approach to our tactics. Kumbaya my Lord kumbaya

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« Reply #905 on: January 08, 2025, 12:46:48 PM »
is detractors such a heinous slurr? I will rephrase, those midly suggesting perhaps a slightly more positive approach to our tactics. Kumbaya my Lord kumbaya

No, its not a slur, no-one has suggested it is but if you post a comment like that then you should expect a reply. No need for the sarcasm either.
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« Reply #906 on: January 08, 2025, 01:03:21 PM »
Rob Edwards gone from Luton, mutual decision according to Talksport and Graeme Bailey but not yet announced.  Wonder if this changes anything
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« Reply #907 on: January 08, 2025, 01:16:38 PM »
In recent days there have been quite a few managers mentioned,I can’t claim to know chapter and verse on all of them but I think the time was right for change.
I see in the current interim team a bit less conservatism and slightly more attacking style along with usage of previously ignored players..
But for a bad lapse in injury time we get a good result in Swansea and we don’t look too bad ..it’s the negative games this season like Cardiff/Oxford/Milwall that have stopped us pushing top 3 .
To answer your question I don’t know that much about either of them but I’ve not heard them even being mentioned for consideration.
whilst I agree that we certainly look more attack minded now than we did in the last few months under Corberan, I think the Swansea performance was pretty much like the Oxford away performance. We scored and then tried to defend a lead, took off 3 out of 4 of our best attackers and sat back.
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« Reply #908 on: January 08, 2025, 01:41:37 PM »
Rob Edwards gone from Luton, mutual decision according to Talksport and Graeme Bailey but not yet announced.  Wonder if this changes anything

Maybe this is kismet.

Would love him to get it.

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« Reply #909 on: January 08, 2025, 01:47:01 PM »
Rob Edwards gone from Luton, mutual decision according to Talksport and Graeme Bailey but not yet announced.  Wonder if this changes anything
Strange how managers go from heros to zeros. Wins Luton promotion on modest resources and then fired half way through first season back in the Championship.

Not unlike Urs Fischer getting Union Berlin up to Champions League, then fired for failing to win for 15 games on the spin.

Maybe its because players switch off if they're hearing the same manager's voice in their ear for too long. Even Guardiola is way below where most pundits expected Man City to be.
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« Reply #910 on: January 08, 2025, 01:55:34 PM »
Strange how managers go from heros to zeros. Wins Luton promotion on modest resources and then fired half way through first season back in the Championship.

Not unlike Urs Fischer getting Union Berlin up to Champions League, then fired for failing to win for 15 games on the spin.
Even Guardiola is way below where most pundits expected Man City to be.

Maybe its because players switch off if they're hearing the same manager's voice in their ear for too long.
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« Reply #911 on: January 08, 2025, 02:03:06 PM »
In talks with Rene Hake, Ten Hag's Assistant at Man U According to Romano. Interesting!

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« Reply #912 on: January 08, 2025, 02:16:27 PM »
There is a new name everyday. What a clown show this is becoming...

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« Reply #913 on: January 08, 2025, 02:20:22 PM »
There is a new name everyday. What a clown show this is becoming...

Nestor and co casting their net far and wide, no issues from me

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« Reply #914 on: January 08, 2025, 02:25:31 PM »
There is a new name everyday. What a clown show this is becoming...

Is this a serious post? What exactly has been done by the club to make it a clown show? They have clearly taken their time, cast the net far and wide and have likely analysed various options.

Just because the Twitter ITKs or Paddy Power throw a name into the hat does not mean in anyway that the club does not have a clear plan in place. Whether the appointment will be prove to be a good one, only time will tell. At this stage, I have no issues and trust club to get it right.

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« Reply #915 on: January 08, 2025, 02:46:37 PM »
There is a new name everyday. What a clown show this is becoming...

Whilst there's no definite front running candidate at the moment, I am liking the fact we are actually looking around properly and not just regurgitating the usual merry go round of tired old names or on the phone to the first name in the phonebook to ask if they want the job (i.e Gourlay getting Bruce in)

Brunt, Abella and Myhill have kept the ship steady enough over xmas & new year to give us some breathing room on making sure we get the person we want, rather than a rushed appointment.

Ignore the bluster for the moment and wait for solid sources and/or OS on who the club have or haven't spoken to.
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« Reply #916 on: January 08, 2025, 02:49:02 PM »
I think we will find there are lots of smoke and mirrors going on and the reality is far from what fishing journos are publishing. The more names that are mooted the more stories to publish.
My feeling ( based on nothing) is that team Bikul had half a dozen names in the frame for a while, have now whittled it down to a couple for interview and will make a decision by tomorrow and publish on Friday. All the other new names being bandied about are just journo flotsam and jetsam to make some sort of story out of nothing.

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« Reply #917 on: January 08, 2025, 02:56:24 PM »
In talks with Rene Hake, Ten Hag's Assistant at Man U According to Romano. Interesting!

Noticed he was in at 4/1 this morning. Seems to have come in from nowhere. Very interesting.
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« Reply #918 on: January 08, 2025, 02:57:00 PM »
There is a new name everyday. What a clown show this is becoming...

You are upset that the media keep speculating and guessing different names?  That’s literally their job :D

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« Reply #919 on: January 08, 2025, 03:11:12 PM »
Fischer is the stand out, can’t see him being interested though. Wicky and Hake both have good CV’s so would be happy with either.

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« Reply #920 on: January 08, 2025, 03:12:15 PM »
I think that our new owners are very canny people.
They get what is required for us , do people expect them to give us 24 hour news?
They know how many beans make 5.
We all know that this manager/coach game is a bit hit & miss for every club.
I trust them to make the right decision for us and their investment but if a new appointment doesn’t work out to be straight with the fans and admit they got it wrong.
That’s all I ask of them.
If any of us make a purchase of anything we expect it to work don’t we,so imagine spending millions of pounds and getting it wrong.
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« Reply #921 on: January 08, 2025, 03:17:38 PM »
Keeping your business under wraps is the correct way to go about it.
Nothing shambolic about it at all.

Get on with the job of making the correct decision without the press noise and then announce when ready.

No fun for us though! But correct no less.

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« Reply #922 on: January 08, 2025, 03:19:58 PM »
No problem with them taking their time and viewing all realistic options. I wouldn't want them to rush appoint someone.

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« Reply #923 on: January 08, 2025, 03:51:08 PM »
The only managerial appointment that's taken longer in the top 2 divisions was Lampard to coventry.

Hard to believe we're just biding our time and being sensible in a way no one else does. Either everyone else is getting it wrong or we are. Unless we're about to get blindsided with an imminent appointment it very much suggests we certainly didn't get any of our top targets, if we even had any.

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« Reply #924 on: January 08, 2025, 04:00:26 PM »
The only managerial appointment that's taken longer in the top 2 divisions was Lampard to coventry.

Hard to believe we're just biding our time and being sensible in a way no one else does. Either everyone else is getting it wrong or we are. Unless we're about to get blindsided with an imminent appointment it very much suggests we certainly didn't get any of our top targets, if we even had any.

We’re taking our time - absolutely makes sense.   So many managerial appointments go wrong that more due diligence is very wise!

Edwards sacked by Luton is interesting - Stoke and Coventry may be regretting their decisions.  Edwards is a really good manager in my view.