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Who would you prefer as next Manager?

Sean Dyche
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« Reply #825 on: January 06, 2025, 08:50:31 PM »
Tin hat time, but I prefer Dyche way more than Wicky, if he becomes available.

Football is about wins and Dyche has proven track record of getting them in our division.

In our financial predicament we need to get back on the gravy train again asap, and we can worry about the aesthetics afterwards.

I doubt it will happen though as he'll be put on gardening leave and very unlikely to forego his severance pay.
I was listening to Everton fans on the radio going beserk at Dyche, no shots on goal at the weekend, scoring just 15 goals in 19 games, but none of this is surprising. Dyche is all about defensive organisation but he hasn't a clue about creativity through midfield and in attack. I'm quite honest when I say I'd rather have Pardew back again.
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« Reply #826 on: January 06, 2025, 09:05:21 PM »
I was listening to Everton fans on the radio going beserk at Dyche, no shots on goal at the weekend, scoring just 15 goals in 19 games, but none of this is surprising. Dyche is all about defensive organisation but he hasn't a clue about creativity through midfield and in attack. I'm quite honest when I say I'd rather have Pardew back again.

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« Reply #827 on: January 06, 2025, 09:28:30 PM »
Wash your mouth out with soap and water and pray you don't get caught under a flock of pigeons or seagulls that have been fed copious amounts of laxatives tomorrow.
Aha. I think I must be getting my point across.
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« Reply #828 on: January 06, 2025, 09:39:16 PM »
I’m amazed that anyone would want Pardew back given his record with us . Our only salvation seemed to be in the FA Cup with wins over Liverpool and Exeter City !

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« Reply #829 on: January 06, 2025, 09:53:29 PM »
I’m amazed that anyone would want Pardew back given his record with us . Our only salvation seemed to be in the FA Cup with wins over Liverpool and Exeter City !
Well he is currently in the vine having a right old natter with Eidur gudjohnsen and maxim shatskikh….wearing a baggies bobble hat.
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« Reply #830 on: January 06, 2025, 10:04:36 PM »
Well he is currently in the vine having a right old natter with Eidur gudjohnsen and maxim shatskikh….wearing a baggies bobble hat.

Not any more he isn't, closes at 10pm on a Monday  ;) .
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« Reply #831 on: January 06, 2025, 10:20:01 PM »
Football isn’t a complicated game. European coaches can and do do very will in the English game very frequently.
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« Reply #832 on: January 06, 2025, 10:37:09 PM »
I’m amazed that anyone would want Pardew back given his record with us . Our only salvation seemed to be in the FA Cup with wins over Liverpool and Exeter City !
I didn't say I wanted Pardew back. I said I'd rather him than Dyche. A subtle difference. ;)
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« Reply #833 on: January 06, 2025, 11:22:10 PM »
Was Wicky odds on yesterday? 11/10 now so wondering if it’s drifting or if I imagined it? Eustace down to 5/2.
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« Reply #834 on: January 07, 2025, 12:53:13 AM »
Was Wicky odds on yesterday? 11/10 now so wondering if it’s drifting or if I imagined it? Eustace down to 5/2.

Yes slightly most had him at evens Skybet came in at 5/6 and he is out  at 11/10 and still evens elsewhere.

John Eustace has shortened by half a point.

This is just a settling in terms of the betting market with a new front runner emerging and remember this time last week Luke Williams was favorite and all the money that was bet on him is now in the bookies satchel. 

At this point I am kind of indifferent between the two front runners. They are different and are likely to be good or bad for different reasons but I don't really hate either like I did with some of our previous appointments.

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« Reply #835 on: January 07, 2025, 08:41:59 AM »
Aha. I think I must be getting my point across.

That's as maybe, personally I'd prefer a proverbial kick up the backside over an actual kick in the nuts so it's Dyche over Pardew for me. Not that either event is likely to happen but I'd be keeping an eye out for any pigeons or seagulls on laxatives passing overhead if I were you  ;) .
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« Reply #836 on: January 07, 2025, 09:47:46 AM »
That's as maybe, personally I'd prefer a proverbial kick up the backside over an actual kick in the nuts so it's Dyche over Pardew for me. Not that either event is likely to happen but I'd be keeping an eye out for any pigeons or seagulls on laxatives passing overhead if I were you  ;) .
Seriously Dan, I think they're both rubbish, but what concerns me is the amount of people still taken in by Dyche. This guy is just a marginal improvement on Pulis, who devalued a couple of years of my life. I don't want to spend my time watching us defending 0-0's whilst knowing if we go behind we've as good as lost the match. There were a lot more 'Dyches' around 20 or 30 years ago, but now, thank goodness, they are a dying breed, but we don't have to have the last of them. 

Anyway, looking like it could be Eustace or Wicky, both of which would be infinitely preferable, even if I know next to nothing about Wicky. 
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« Reply #837 on: January 07, 2025, 11:08:33 AM »
The modern game has moved on from the Dyches of this world, thank goodness.

Although people can still be taken in by the modern day tik-tok versions like Rooney and Lampard who are just the doppelganger equivalent of Pardew and Bruce.

The memories of those two charlatans sends shivers down my spine.


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« Reply #838 on: January 07, 2025, 11:14:23 AM »
Thankfully I'm sure Andrew NEstor & Bilkul are more forward thinking than to appoint the likes of Dyche should he be available.


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« Reply #839 on: January 07, 2025, 12:09:53 PM »
Birmingham Mail reduced to reporting betting markets (RIP local Journalism) and have spun a few hundred words on Urs Fischer being quoted at 20/1 (still my beating heart) to put this into context Luke Williams who has been actually ruled out is available at 12/1.

In other words we wait for the white smoke over the Hawthorns.
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« Reply #840 on: January 07, 2025, 12:19:59 PM »
White smoke over the Hawthorns and Black smoke over Villa Park would be the ideal scenario.

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« Reply #841 on: January 07, 2025, 12:25:45 PM »
Have we been linked with Urs Fischer then or just at bookies?

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« Reply #842 on: January 07, 2025, 12:46:18 PM »
Have we been linked with Urs Fischer then or just at bookies?

Nothing in it as far as I can make out other than B'ham Mail feeling obliged to write something on our manager search.
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« Reply #843 on: January 07, 2025, 12:48:30 PM »
Nothing in it as far as I can make out other than B'ham Mail feeling obliged to write something on our manager search.


Ahh ok thanks, thought i'd missed something.

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« Reply #844 on: January 07, 2025, 01:04:10 PM »
Thankfully I'm sure Andrew NEstor & Bilkul are more forward thinking than to appoint the likes of Dyche should he be available.

If the new management mean what they say, they will be appointing someone who can use the academy and  who can coach young players into valuable assets..

I don't see Dyche in this category anymore than Bruce, Pardew etc.  However they may have been persuaded that we have a good chance of promotion - which we haven't.

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« Reply #845 on: January 07, 2025, 01:06:24 PM »
If the new management mean what they say, they will be appointing someone who can use the academy and  who can coach young players into valuable assets..

I don't see Dyche in this category anymore than Bruce, Pardew etc.  However they may have been persuaded that we have a good chance of promotion - which we haven't.

(Valencia lost 1-2 against Real Madrid for whom Modric and Bellingham scored)


I think the top 2 are gone but play offs wide open for me.

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« Reply #846 on: January 07, 2025, 01:27:46 PM »

I think the top 2 are gone but play offs wide open for me.

Yeah we can solidify a play-off place if the right person comes in, I have no doubt of that. This season is not even close to the write off that some seem to think it is.

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« Reply #847 on: January 07, 2025, 01:29:57 PM »
Yeah we can solidify a play-off place if the right person comes in, I have no doubt of that. This season is not even close to the write off that some seem to think it is.


It's absolutely not wrote off unless Bilkul decide to sell Maja and Fellows to clear the books and continue rebuild at pace.

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« Reply #848 on: January 07, 2025, 01:54:30 PM »
Just doing some reading up on Wicky (from wiki).
This stood out to me
"He became first-team manager on 21 April 2017, replacing Urs Fischer after a boardroom change.[18] Days later, the team wrapped up an eighth consecutive league title,[19] and on 25 May won the Swiss Cup with a 3–0 victory over Sion at the Stade de Genève."

This was his first senior team manager role, which was on coat tails of Urs Fishers success,
then at end of the very next season
"On 26 July 2018, having finished as runner-up in the domestic league and having been eliminated in the semifinal of the cup as well as having started the new season poorly, with elimination by PAOK in the 2nd qualifying round of the Champions League, he was dismissed"

Yes its 2nd in the league and a cup semifinal but this was in Switzerland with a team that did the double the previous season remember,

He then goes off the the US u17s and then to Chicago fire and gets chopped before returning to Switzerland and lasted a season and half at Young boys.

It sounds to me like he has been fortunate to land jobs with big fish in the little swiss pond but failed to maintain what was there before him.

Interesting that Urs Fishers name is in there as a success and he is apparently now an outside bet.
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« Reply #849 on: January 07, 2025, 02:25:14 PM »
2 interviews done today says Dood.

Assuming 1 is Wicky, no mention of other name.



EDIT - Dood saying both are free agents and both from overseas.
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