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Re: Next Head Coach Thread
« Reply #225 on: December 27, 2024, 02:46:05 PM »
Brum mail have done an article on what we are looking for in new boss.

Chapman himself tweets that we are primarily looking at free agents although would consider paying reasonable compo for the right man.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-west-brom-looking-bilkul-30667108


"The process to identify and recruit Carlos Corberan's successor is well and truly underway at West Bromwich Albion. The Spaniard left the club on Christmas Eve to take over as manager of La Liga strugglers Valencia, which for him and his family means returning home. He leaves Albion on the brink of the Championship play-off places, having inherited them in the relegation zone a little over two years ago.

An interim team of Chris Brunt, Boaz Myhill and Damia Abella have been placed in charge in the meantime. The trio oversaw the narrow Boxing Day defeat at Derby County on Thursday evening and, until further notice, will prepare the squad for this glut of festive fixtures - Albion head to pacesetters Sheffield United on Sunday before entertaining Preston North End on New Year's Day and making for Swansea City the following Saturday.

The noises coming out of The Hawthorns suggest that Albion's intentions to find a suitable successor to Corberan won't be rushed simply to ensure a new manager is in place at the earliest opportunity; the hierarchy are eager to make the right call and, in order to do so, are willing to lean on Brunt, Myhill and Abella for the foreseeable future to oversee first-team responsibilities. If it takes until the FA Cup trip to Bournemouth next month, then so be it.

Bilkul chief executive Andrew Nestor, who assumed sporting director responsibilities in August, is leading the recruitment process. Nestor, who has accumulated plenty of experience of football on the continent, namely from his spell at Bologna where he helped to revive the club which has propelled itself into the Champions League since, is working with Ian Pearce as Albion look for the ideal candidate.


A shortlist has been drawn up by the club. As expected, it's a particularly eye-catching vacancy which has attracted the attention and the applications of many managers. Bilkul have introduced a more prudent approach to the way Albion work - indeed returning more to what the club proudly used to be able to champion during the days of Dan Ashworth et al - and, acknowledging that managers come and go, they've prepared for this eventuality.

Since Corberan requested permission to make the move to Valencia, Albion have creaked into gear behind the scenes, despite the Christmas period; they've refined their list of potential targets and will now hone in on selected candidates, all under the umbrella of an approach which means that Albion will have a consistency which spans more than one head coach moving forwards.

The ideal Albion candidate will be able to implement an expressive brand of football, who can demonstrate tactical prowess and is analytically shrewd, as well as possessing the man management skills required to motivate and ensure they can get the best out of the squad available to them.!
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Re: Next Head Coach Thread
« Reply #226 on: December 27, 2024, 03:02:34 PM »
So on David Moyes
It’s somewhere between he’s knowledgeable /experienced ….to he’s a dinosaur of yesteryear.
He would be on too much/he won’t come anyway etc etc

Of every name I have seen mentioned (other than one mention of Rafa Benitez 😆) Moyes looks to have all the attributes we would need at this point ,2 years of steady progress with a proper understanding of coaching requirements a book of contacts which really could help us intge loan market and the status to stand on the training pitch/in the dressing room and say “listen I’ve been there” and they know he has.
There are good arguments for going in another direction (Heitinga) but he at this point as a really small amount of “in charge”experience .
I’d also argue that because Nestor has gone left field before,it doesn’t mean that’s his preferred way.
If Moyes comes to us…the rest of this league sits up and takes notice and if Patel does that in the champ,then I believe the future is bright.
lf we, are talking to Moyes then we, should be, talking to Potter. Both though are unlikely to come to us. I'd love Potter but would be ok with Moyes. Of more realistic options Heitinger or Cooper would be my choice.

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« Reply #227 on: December 27, 2024, 03:08:26 PM »
lf we, are talking to Moyes then we, should be, talking to Potter. Both though are unlikely to come to us. I'd love Potter but would be ok with Moyes. Of more realistic options Heitinger or Cooper would be my choice.

Potter and Moyes are chalk and cheese.  About 20 years age difference for a start.  Potter is still young and ambitious and sitting on a £40m payoff from Chelsea.  He’s in no hurry and will wait for the right job.  Moyes probably only has one, maybe two, jobs left in him and is far less likely to get a Premier League job.  Big payoffs from United and West Ham (the first time), and is far more likely to fancy the job here.

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« Reply #228 on: December 27, 2024, 03:09:28 PM »
Brum mail have done an article on what we are looking for in new boss.

Chapman himself tweets that we are primarily looking at free agents although would consider paying reasonable compo for the right man.


https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/what-west-brom-looking-bilkul-30667108


"The process to identify and recruit Carlos Corberan's successor is well and truly underway at West Bromwich Albion. The Spaniard left the club on Christmas Eve to take over as manager of La Liga strugglers Valencia, which for him and his family means returning home. He leaves Albion on the brink of the Championship play-off places, having inherited them in the relegation zone a little over two years ago.

An interim team of Chris Brunt, Boaz Myhill and Damia Abella have been placed in charge in the meantime. The trio oversaw the narrow Boxing Day defeat at Derby County on Thursday evening and, until further notice, will prepare the squad for this glut of festive fixtures - Albion head to pacesetters Sheffield United on Sunday before entertaining Preston North End on New Year's Day and making for Swansea City the following Saturday.

The noises coming out of The Hawthorns suggest that Albion's intentions to find a suitable successor to Corberan won't be rushed simply to ensure a new manager is in place at the earliest opportunity; the hierarchy are eager to make the right call and, in order to do so, are willing to lean on Brunt, Myhill and Abella for the foreseeable future to oversee first-team responsibilities. If it takes until the FA Cup trip to Bournemouth next month, then so be it.

Bilkul chief executive Andrew Nestor, who assumed sporting director responsibilities in August, is leading the recruitment process. Nestor, who has accumulated plenty of experience of football on the continent, namely from his spell at Bologna where he helped to revive the club which has propelled itself into the Champions League since, is working with Ian Pearce as Albion look for the ideal candidate.


A shortlist has been drawn up by the club. As expected, it's a particularly eye-catching vacancy which has attracted the attention and the applications of many managers. Bilkul have introduced a more prudent approach to the way Albion work - indeed returning more to what the club proudly used to be able to champion during the days of Dan Ashworth et al - and, acknowledging that managers come and go, they've prepared for this eventuality.

Since Corberan requested permission to make the move to Valencia, Albion have creaked into gear behind the scenes, despite the Christmas period; they've refined their list of potential targets and will now hone in on selected candidates, all under the umbrella of an approach which means that Albion will have a consistency which spans more than one head coach moving forwards.

The ideal Albion candidate will be able to implement an expressive brand of football, who can demonstrate tactical prowess and is analytically shrewd, as well as possessing the man management skills required to motivate and ensure they can get the best out of the squad available to them.!

Encouraging to know we're not going to be rushed. First of all, and i know I'm in a minority, but I was never a big fan of CC and his overly cautious approach mixed with odd team selections/substitutions aimed at not losing. Secondly, I'm apprehensive about the January window and the prospect of losing our best assets (Fellows, Grant, and Maja) for way below their value just to raise a few quid. Therefore, I would really like to think that talks with potential new managers include  our intentions/plans for the window. But ultimately, I would like any potential manager to stand his ground during the whole process and argue that we should be building at team around people like Fellows.....and hopefully, any prospective managers should already know we're seriously lacking in attack-minded midfield players. For me, under CC we were so easy to defend against, and watching backwards and sideways passing all afternoon was beyond painful at times. I'm actually optimistic for a better future at long last.
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« Reply #229 on: December 27, 2024, 03:15:28 PM »
Would anybody be keen on Steven Schumacher? Didn’t go to plan at Stoke however the job he did at Plymouth was in tough circumstances and may face similar here. Stock was high and he was heavily linked to us before we got Corberan, although it’s a total different regime now except from Ian Pearce.
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« Reply #230 on: December 27, 2024, 03:18:02 PM »
Would anybody be keen on Steven Schumacher? Didn’t go to plan at Stoke however the job he did at Plymouth was in tough circumstances and may face similar here. Stock was high and he was heavily linked to us before we got Corberan, although it’s a total different regime now except from Ian Pearce.

Some Stokies i know said he was a pretty good boss but it just didn't work out for him and them.

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« Reply #231 on: December 27, 2024, 03:53:43 PM »
Encouraging to know we're not going to be rushed. First of all, and i know I'm in a minority, but I was never a big fan of CC and his overly cautious approach mixed with odd team selections/substitutions aimed at not losing. Secondly, I'm apprehensive about the January window and the prospect of losing our best assets (Fellows, Grant, and Maja) for way below their value just to raise a few quid. Therefore, I would really like to think that talks with potential new managers include  our intentions/plans for the window. But ultimately, I would like any potential manager to stand his ground during the whole process and argue that we should be building at team around people like Fellows.....and hopefully, any prospective managers should already know we're seriously lacking in attack-minded midfield players. For me, under CC we were so easy to defend against, and watching backwards and sideways passing all afternoon was beyond painful at times. I'm actually optimistic for a better future at long last.

The financial state of the club will be uppermost in our transfer activities, so any player will be for sale at the right price particularly if they have high salaries and shortish contracts

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« Reply #232 on: December 27, 2024, 03:55:56 PM »
I get the point about being fearful of losing players like Fellows, Grant and Maja but equally if we do cash in then that may take away the threat of a points deduction and mean that Bilkul can start to invest sooner rather than later.


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« Reply #233 on: December 27, 2024, 04:12:39 PM »
I’d imagine a win percentage of 66% at Ajax is pretty routine. Save for one or two seasons they have dominated their league alongside PSV and Fereynood.

If we bring in someone like Hertinga a downside is they have no experience of the championship whereas Corberán had already managed extensively at this level and was a very smart hardworking coach.

All very depressing as the club is going backwards, just a matter of how far back. High quality managers are very hard to find.
You're dead right when you say a win percentage of 66% for Ajax is nothing special. In fact they used to say 2 defeats on the trot is a crisis in Amsterdam. However, what I like about Heitinga is that he has bags of experience as a youth coach, and now extra experience coaching at the highest level. We are going to need a proper hands-on coach as we don't have the funds to splash around on transfers.
I'm not sure that Moyes could do that. At all the clubs he's previously managed, they write out cheques for fun. Its another thing coaching players up, from choosing ready-made players from the transfer market.
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« Reply #234 on: December 27, 2024, 05:56:30 PM »
Good point.  Anyone who was accusing CC of being a rigid over-defensive tactician and also endorsing Moyes, perversely wants the same in spades except that Moyes had bigger budgets.
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« Reply #235 on: December 27, 2024, 06:26:27 PM »
I had a quick look at the betting markets to see if there were any clues there as to our next Head Coach. Well John Heitinga is 5/2 favourite with Bet Victor but isn't quoted by Ladbrokes or Corals who both have Igor Tudor as 3/1 favourite and there is no price up for him on Bet Victor. 

None of the bookies are quoting a price for Graham Potter and that is despite Bet Victor offering 33/1 on a whole slew of unlikely candidates,  Jose Mourinho anyone? 

So no clue or at least no consensus.

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« Reply #237 on: December 27, 2024, 07:23:05 PM »

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« Reply #238 on: December 27, 2024, 07:25:30 PM »
Moyes is just Bruce with one more brain cell.

Moyes with Alan Irvine as coach?   ;D

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« Reply #239 on: December 27, 2024, 07:26:33 PM »
Moyes with Alan Irvine as coach?   ;D

Alan Irvine anyone? Haha

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« Reply #240 on: December 27, 2024, 07:32:49 PM »
Alan Irvine anyone? Haha

luckily seems Millwall have got there first
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« Reply #241 on: December 27, 2024, 07:36:54 PM »
Thought Alex Neill was due in at Millwall?

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« Reply #242 on: December 27, 2024, 07:47:40 PM »
Thought Alex Neill was due in at Millwall?

Both depressing options.

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« Reply #243 on: December 27, 2024, 07:52:17 PM »
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« Reply #244 on: December 27, 2024, 08:22:41 PM »
The statement/ report today would seem to rule out , with all due respect , Moyes and his ilk.
Stokes reaction today could be a bit of a hindrance with them fishing in the same pond with a lot less money problems counterbalanced by their much worse league position
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« Reply #245 on: December 27, 2024, 08:38:26 PM »
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« Reply #246 on: December 27, 2024, 08:40:58 PM »
I have been told this morning from a very good source (not with the Albion i should add) that we are very interested in David Moyes.

Supposedly the thinking is we cant do an overhaul of the squad yet and whilst we still are in the playoff mix there is no point changing the playing style and Moyes fits the current approach of organised, etc and has experience (though not sure he has ever won promotion) he is viewed as a calm head and should we go up, he would be one of better options of keeping us there.

It would be a deal until the end of the season with him on a big salary and high bonus incentive and then reviewed when we know where we are, he is supposedly open for a chat with us but whether it comes to anything, who knows!

Of course it may come to nothing but it seems we will be going for a steady approach this appointment with the club overhauling the squad in the summer, had we been bottom half or midtable then a left field appointment would of been likely but from the criteria we are looking for, it seems we really want to go for playoffs.

If a real standout left field / foreign coach does impress then we would take them but it would seem we are looking at safer options rather than a risk for now.


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« Reply #247 on: December 27, 2024, 08:45:58 PM »
Moyes no, he basically sneered at us some time ago when there was a vague suggestion he might come here in an interview.  Think it was before or after Roy.  Can't use the word I'd choose for him, Certainly Until Next Tuesday.  Allardyce #2.

I don't think we want to rush this, we won't be relegated and might sneak the playoffs again.  I''d be happy with Mowbray for six months while we consider the future.

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« Reply #248 on: December 27, 2024, 09:41:37 PM »
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« Reply #249 on: December 27, 2024, 09:46:05 PM »
Ive just seen Steven Gerrard mentioned somewhere
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