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Re: Pre Match Chat
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2024, 11:01:08 PM »
If only we had a promising young right back called Deago Nelson.

What's he like Dan in terms of profile of player? I know you're generally fairly well across our youth teams so interesting to get info and understand your opinion on him.

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2024, 11:08:31 PM »
What's he like Dan in terms of profile of player? I know you're generally fairly well across our youth teams so interesting to get info and understand your opinion on him.

Not the biggest but technically very good. Quick, mobile and intelligent. Needs game time either on loan or from the bench to develop his game ideally. That said I'd have no problem seeing what he's got in the starting eleven.
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2024, 11:12:58 PM »
Goes that go to show how much CC doesn't know?

No, not really.

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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2024, 11:23:15 PM »
Not the biggest but technically very good. Quick, mobile and intelligent. Needs game time either on loan or from the bench to develop his game ideally. That said I'd have no problem seeing what he's got in the starting eleven.

Thanks for this. I think it's safe to say Corberan won't throw him in and if there was 1% chance, I'd say with Styles at left back that 1% disappears!

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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2024, 11:33:58 PM »
Thanks for this. I think it's safe to say Corberan won't throw him in and if there was 1% chance, I'd say with Styles at left back that 1% disappears!

He may not but ultimately Nelson is definitely an option. As is Fellows at wing back if we go with three in the middle at the back. We don't have the strongest of squads in my opinion but I do think we have a flexible one. Not that my opinion counts for anything in the grand scheme of things given I've no idea what our tactics and game plans will be based on scouting reports and player availability.
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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2024, 08:57:24 AM »
It's a rare event when Fellows wins the ball off an opponent.
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2024, 11:27:18 AM »
I will go into this match eith our away record currently tge best in tge league and go for a win, theyll not want to lose and if we go at tgem from the get go and score their fans will have a go at their team, theyre not the most supportive the times ive been up there, a draw at least then a win at preston and were right in the mix

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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2024, 11:49:39 AM »
My opinion is it’s one game and time to trust in our youth and give Nelson a game at right back
We are so slow in giving opportunities to our youth and he was on the bench the other week, most certainly have a plan b in place just in case but it prevents completely altering our set up with little to no time to train for this
I’d also like to see diakite play alongside molumby in midfield, this gives us more mobility in midfield I really think mowatt can’t play in a two man midfield he can’t run
I’d leave the front 4 the same barring any injuries
Be nice to see Whitwell getting some minutes off the bench too Racic has been distinctly average the last half dozen games

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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2024, 05:58:58 PM »
Yes Racic has been a big disappointment but it's a long season.  Just doesn't seem to have it though.

I'd maybe go Wallace right back to avoid too many changes in the back four which has generally worked well but I'd be ok with Holgate moving to right back and Diakite coming in - this is of course dependent on whether Bartley is back.  If so then Holgate to RB. and Barts in.

Sunderland have something of an injury/suspension crisis but I've heard this all before.

A point there would be a very good result (depending on how it pans out on the night.)

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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2024, 08:44:44 PM »
If Bartley isn't fit to play i would go something like;

                      Palmer

          Diakate Holgate Heggem

Fellows                                    Styles

                 Molumby Mowatt


       Johnston                   Grant

                     Maja

If Bartley is fit enough to play i'd go similar to what we did at Norwich just with Holgate at right back and Bartley in the middle, with the rest of the team remaining the same. I've heard a lot of positive things about Nelson, i'm just not sure throwing him in at a packed SOL is the best idea but i could be wrong.
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« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2024, 08:06:26 AM »
If Wallace starts at right back this place will go into meltdown. Then if he puts in a MotM performance it'll be 'he only played him there because he had to' and someone else going 'why hasn't he tried it before?'  ;D .
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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2024, 09:02:14 AM »
If Bartley isn't fit to play i would go something like;

                      Palmer

          Diakate Holgate Heggem

Fellows                                    Styles

                 Molumby Mowatt

Johnston                                        Grant

                     Maja

If Bartley is fit enough to play i'd go similar to what we did at Norwich just with Holgate at right back and Bartley in the middle, with the rest of the team remaining the same. I've heard a lot of positive things about Nelson, i'm just not sure throwing him in at a packed SOL is the best idea but i could be wrong.

We've run so short on CBs that bold chances must be taken. But has Diakite' ever played at CB even in the reserves?  I think that Frabotta has to move into the back line.

As regards Nelson - well Ferguson wasn't so bad when he was rushed into the first team line-up and Fellows is not really a defender.  We're on a hiding to nothing here so let's rest a couple and go:-

                Palmer

Nelson Holgate Heggem (Frabotta or other PL2 LB of your choice)

    Molumby  Diakite'  Whitwell

Dobbin                            Bostock

                   Cole

(PS  Could we ask the web software people to provide accents in their fonts?)
« Last Edit: November 26, 2024, 09:04:06 AM by NJS »
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2024, 10:11:02 AM »
I think it’ll be the same side apart from styles moving to left back and frabotta coming in.

A side containing Whitwell, Bostock Cole Diakate as well as a youth right back is just not happening, id consider that virtually throwing the game anyway

Sunderland are a good young side,  they could beat us with pace and energy, but on the flip side we could easily win with experience and pragmatism

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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2024, 11:17:37 AM »
We've run so short on CBs that bold chances must be taken. But has Diakite' ever played at CB even in the reserves?  I think that Frabotta has to move into the back line.

As regards Nelson - well Ferguson wasn't so bad when he was rushed into the first team line-up and Fellows is not really a defender.  We're on a hiding to nothing here so let's rest a couple and go:-

                Palmer

Nelson Holgate Heggem (Frabotta or other PL2 LB of your choice)

    Molumby  Diakite'  Whitwell

Dobbin                            Bostock

                   Cole

(PS  Could we ask the web software people to provide accents in their fonts?)

I’d be furious if that was the starting line-up! Lucky it won’t be. Why are we on a hiding to nothing? We have the best away form in the league. Admittedly this is our toughest challenge of the season and we need to square up to it, not go down in the first round.

I think it’ll be Bartley in and Holgate to the right. Perhaps Wallace there will be similar to when Brunt got deployed at left back - a better option for him although he’ll be very different to Furlong who runs up and down that wing like a sprinter. Wallace would have to sit.

It would be nice to see a youngster given a chance but it may not be the right game for it.
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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2024, 12:18:15 PM »
If Wallace starts at right back this place will go into meltdown. Then if he puts in a MotM performance it'll be 'he only played him there because he had to' and someone else going 'why hasn't he tried it before?'  ;D .
But the sentiment of only playing there because he had to…would be correct ?
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2024, 12:20:02 PM »
We've run so short on CBs that bold chances must be taken. But has Diakite' ever played at CB even in the reserves?  I think that Frabotta has to move into the back line.

As regards Nelson - well Ferguson wasn't so bad when he was rushed into the first team line-up and Fellows is not really a defender.  We're on a hiding to nothing here so let's rest a couple and go:-

                Palmer

Nelson Holgate Heggem (Frabotta or other PL2 LB of your choice)

    Molumby  Diakite'  Whitwell

Dobbin                            Bostock

                   Cole

(PS  Could we ask the web software people to provide accents in their fonts?)
I think there is more chance of me getting a game than this eleven starting 😃
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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2024, 12:21:59 PM »
I'm generally a bit fan of Coberan's but one thing he doesn't do is given a lot of youth players minutes in Championship matches. I think it's unlikely Nelson starts.

I'd say in order of likelihood:

1. Bartley plays, with Holgate at right back
2. Diakite comes into a back five (with Wallace as the wing back)
3. Frabotta at left back and Styles at right back
4. Nelson starts at right back
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« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2024, 12:38:25 PM »
We've run so short on CBs that bold chances must be taken. But has Diakite' ever played at CB even in the reserves?  I think that Frabotta has to move into the back line.

As regards Nelson - well Ferguson wasn't so bad when he was rushed into the first team line-up and Fellows is not really a defender.  We're on a hiding to nothing here so let's rest a couple and go:-

                Palmer

Nelson Holgate Heggem (Frabotta or other PL2 LB of your choice)

    Molumby  Diakite'  Whitwell

Dobbin                            Bostock

                   Cole

(PS  Could we ask the web software people to provide accents in their fonts?)

That side is far too weak in my view. it would get a good hiding.

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« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2024, 12:40:34 PM »
But the sentiment of only playing there because he had to…would be correct ?

And if he did squeeze him in at right back you'd probably have the biggest pre match meltdown on here. Equally correct? Probably not now I've suggested you would  ;D  ;) .
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« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2024, 12:42:38 PM »
I think there is more chance of me getting a game than this eleven starting 😃

Haha!  No there is a very slim chance of conservative Carlos selecting that side,  If Bartley's available that does change a lot.

Styles is a makeshift LB I wouldn't expect him to thrive at right back
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« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2024, 12:58:37 PM »
Whatever your views on CC i think most people would agree that the words brave and/or bold have no right being associated with him.

If he played Nelson, Bostock or Whitwell, any 1 of the 3 i would be amazed.

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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2024, 01:10:28 PM »
And if he did squeeze him in at right back you'd probably have the biggest pre match meltdown on here. Equally correct? Probably not now I've suggested you would  ;D  ;) .
Too bloody right old chap …
Seriously I try to give credit where it’s due ….and Wallace,Diangana have both had impact and made a difference previously ,but Tge manager constant use of them seems to highlight a stubborness which doesn’t help the team/those not getting a chance

If Wallace starts of course I’ll be disappointed,if he plays well I’ll apllaud ..
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« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2024, 01:19:05 PM »
That side is far too weak in my view. it would get a good hiding.

It's an absolutely ridiculous line up that just will not happen  end of. Not worthy of any debate.

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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2024, 01:29:14 PM »
Lets hope that Bartley is fit because I don't like the idea of the back 3 or playing Wallace or Styles at RB!

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« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2024, 06:08:05 PM »
Back 4 is unfortunately where a team needs most stability, as they learn to play with alot of routine as a unit.  I hope we keep the disruption to a minimum as I fear Sunderland will otherwise exploit the misunderstandings. Would be good to see Bartley in and Holgate move across. Otherwise, don't know. Maybe try Diaktie and hope they are a bit lucky.

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