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Chairmans New Years Statement
« on: January 03, 2015, 09:56:30 AM »
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Chairman addresses fans
JEREMY Peace today issues a New Year message to all Albion fans with the promise: "We are going back to basics."
 
The Albion Chairman, speaking before the appointment of new head coach Tony Pulis, makes it clear the club is determined to get the fundamentals right once more to get the Baggies back on an upward curve.
 
In a strident address delivered in today's Albion News, Peace lays out his immediate aims with a simple but robust message while expressing his annoyance at an unfair perception of the club's working structure.
 
He tells fans: "It has been a poor couple of years and we should not hide from that criticism. Five wins from the last 33 home league games since March 2013 tells its own story. That is simply not good enough and will have tried the patience of all our fans – I get that and offer a genuine ‘thank you’ for your continued backing."
 
He continues: "To change that path, we have to go back to basics with a Head Coach who possesses a proven track record, someone to keep us in the Premier League and build again for the future. He will inherit a well-coached, well-organised team but I hope bring with him the ability to compete more successfully in and around those extremely fine margins.
 
"We are reviewing and will be streamlining our recruitment department because we know we simply have not done well enough in this area. That has to improve. Most importantly, the new Head Coach will inherit a club with its structures in place, robust and unchanged. Let me make that clear – there is a perpetual irritation within the club about how its mode of operation is continually misrepresented and mis-interpreted across the media."

Read more at http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/jeremy-peace-albion-news-address-baggies-west-bromwich-2179116.aspx#SGcKMpxyhLQDBklI.99
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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 11:40:03 AM »
From what I've read over the past few years I thought our scouting network and methodology was pretty decent - hope we don't throw too much of the good work down the drain.

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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 11:46:13 AM »
I'll be really interested to read that, not sure he'll detail how the structure works though.

In terms of the recruitment department, I just think they'll set different criteria. Just like google really if you ask the same question in a different way, you get different answers.
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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 02:15:16 PM »
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Jeremy Peace has a pop at the media in his New Year message in today's programme.

JP: "There is a perpetual irritation within the club about how our mode of operation is continually misrepresented across the media.

Does anybody seriously think that a player is either recruited or moved on without the head coach's full knowledge or sign-off?

Does anybody really imagine, for example, that Robbie Di Matteo, Roy Hodgson or Steve Clarke have players foisted upon them?

Of course not - neither did Alan and neither will his successor. "
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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2015, 02:21:30 PM »
Steve Madeley @smadeley_star
Jeremy Peace has a pop at the media in his New Year message in today's programme.

JP: "There is a perpetual irritation within the club about how our mode of operation is continually misrepresented across the media.

Does anybody seriously think that a player is either recruited or moved on without the head coach's full knowledge or sign-off?

Does anybody really imagine, for example, that Robbie Di Matteo, Roy Hodgson or Steve Clarke have players foisted upon them?

Of course not - neither did Alan and neither will his successor. "

If I'm going to be critical, then get out there and tell us directly then JP.
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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 05:09:03 PM »
Steve Madeley @smadeley_star
Jeremy Peace has a pop at the media in his New Year message in today's programme.

JP: "There is a perpetual irritation within the club about how our mode of operation is continually misrepresented across the media.

Does anybody seriously think that a player is either recruited or moved on without the head coach's full knowledge or sign-off?

Does anybody really imagine, for example, that Robbie Di Matteo, Roy Hodgson or Steve Clarke have players foisted upon them?

Of course not - neither did Alan and neither will his successor. "

I think they do. The fact that some of the players we've signed over the last few years have hardly had a kick. Wasn't Lugano brought in unbeknown to Clarke? Players like Ibanez, Rosenberg, El Ghanassey, Lugano, Davidson & Blanco barely played. It smacks of them being bought to the club with the Head Coach having to accept them.

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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 05:50:23 PM »
Can anyone post the whole message?
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 01:12:50 AM »
If any of you fancy going through Chris Lepkowski and Steve Madeley's lengthy disagreement on Twitter from tonight, it makes interesting reading. It regards the media's representation on our club's structure and the anti-media statement by Peace in today's programme. Interesting to see two professionals go at it on a public forum. Especially from Chris considering his new job.

If we seem to get any uncharacteristic bad stories from the express and star in the coming weeks we'll know the cause.
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Re: Twitter spat
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 01:16:22 AM »
i dont use twitter, do you have a link?

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2015, 01:31:58 AM »

If we seem to get any uncharacteristic bad stories from the express and star in the coming weeks we'll know the cause.

Nothing would be new there!

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Re: Twitter spat
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2015, 01:36:44 AM »
I saw Madely mouthing off about JP's programme notes. Is this what it was about?

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2015, 02:24:21 AM »
Much ado about nothing, Lepkowski as good as told Madely it wasn't in reference to him, but for some reason he'd taken it to heart. Storm in a teacup.
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Re: Twitter spat
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2015, 02:30:16 AM »
I saw Madely mouthing off about JP's programme notes. Is this what it was about?

Yes it would of been.

I understand the clubs point though.

I would estimate only a small handful of Albion fans know exactly how the club is run, and who makes what decisions etc. With this in mind, only 0.1% of the Nation know.

When the media publish info, it is often mistaken as truth. So, if a tabloid says "Alan Irvine didnt see Ideye play" we then begin to make all kinds of assumptions as to why we signed him. I know exactly why, and who, signed Ideye & trust me, its not who you think it was.

I have spoken with a very senior figure at the Albion everyday since AI left the club, and our discussions have shed alot of light onto our club, who has made what decision, who has signed X & who has signed Y. Who is up for the chop, who isnt etc etc.


Basically, alot of the media-stuff we have seen lately are 100% false. Please Albion fans, be careful what you read & hear. JP is right & correct in what he has said in relation to this. 

I am more than happy to DM anyone who wants to know a little more info, but i obviously cant disclose to much info due to my work.

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2015, 08:52:09 AM »
Yes it would of been.

I understand the clubs point though.

I would estimate only a small handful of Albion fans know exactly how the club is run, and who makes what decisions etc. With this in mind, only 0.1% of the Nation know.

When the media publish info, it is often mistaken as truth. So, if a tabloid says "Alan Irvine didnt see Ideye play" we then begin to make all kinds of assumptions as to why we signed him. I know exactly why, and who, signed Ideye & trust me, its not who you think it was.

I have spoken with a very senior figure at the Albion everyday since AI left the club, and our discussions have shed alot of light onto our club, who has made what decision, who has signed X & who has signed Y. Who is up for the chop, who isnt etc etc.


Basically, alot of the media-stuff we have seen lately are 100% false. Please Albion fans, be careful what you read & hear. JP is right & correct in what he has said in relation to this. 

I am more than happy to DM anyone who wants to know a little more info, but i obviously cant disclose to much info due to my work.

I have a business background, & I have to say my leaning is towards the club as apposed to the media. Systems are designed for how you want things to work, but sometimes exceptional circumstances dictate that you by-pass the system. Is Madeley suggesting that we should not have taken the opportunity to sign Craig Gardner for example, just because we didn't have a HC in situ?
One thing I would like to know, now that Tony Pulis is in place as Head Coach, does he still report jointly to DoF & Sporting Director or does he now report directly to the Chairman? At his press conference he talked about "building a relationship with the Chairman".
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Re: Chairmans New Years Statement
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2015, 08:56:52 AM »
The club have a massive point about the media the main problem for me is the spoken media rather than the written.

A certain local radio stations presenter constantly announced Pulis would never sign for the Albion due to Peace etc.

Certain fans are gulliable enough to take presenters oppinions as fact and they know this and use it for their own agendas.

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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2015, 09:15:33 AM »
I think the club have to take a certain amount of responsibility in the bad press that they get.
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2015, 09:40:35 AM »
A small amount yes but local media ignoring facts for their own agendas is highly unprofessional.

Even when Hodgson was incharge and we were flying they still wouldnt give credit.

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2015, 09:55:06 AM »
Certain local radio media like to court controversy in a "shock jockey" style, they pick on individuals and stoke up the flames. If you get an opportunity to listen to the "expert analysis" whilst watching the game you will notice how some players are given no credit only criticism and will get slaughtered for doing something another team member will have done before him.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2015, 10:28:22 AM »
I think its a bit rich to complain about media misrepresentation when for years there has been a void in information from the club, voids get filled, often with rubbish, the clubs new found desire to engage should help in the future to present a truer picture.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2015, 10:56:38 AM »
I think its a bit rich to complain about media misrepresentation when for years there has been a void in information from the club, voids get filled, often with rubbish, the clubs new found desire to engage should help in the future to present a truer picture.

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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2015, 03:08:17 PM »
Don't necessarily agree with what was written, or how it was expressed, but welcome the fact JP is putting forward some views.

Too often he's been criticised for hiding away.
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2015, 08:04:32 PM »
I think its a bit rich to complain about media misrepresentation when for years there has been a void in information from the club, voids get filled, often with rubbish, the clubs new found desire to engage should help in the future to present a truer picture.

I thought his criticism of the media was a touch too far - despite how much pooh they may have spoken.

All we ever hear from Albion is this "structure" rhetoric. It is almost vomitted in every press release about how we work to a structure and that is all well and good. The media largely respected this structure under Dan Ashworth - someone who is competent in running it, took control of several facets and largely had a successful tenure. Since then though the club cannot complain how about the criticism the structure has received. We're effectively trying to run it without the person who created it and made it such a success. It's like we've been trying to drive a car without the wheels.

Whenever Ashworth was here there was constant dialogue about how it worked, the duties of certain people and the on-going communication between himself and the head coach. After his departure we've had the promotion of a solicitor who was hopelessly out of his depth, the appointment of McDonough who joined and then left rather suddenly with the club again hushing his departure out the door quitely - amiss the chaos we found ourselves under and now have we have Terry Burton in control of the football operations with the aforementioned solicitor now back to administration duties.

What the hell exactly has been going on? I mean since Ashworth we've effectively appointed two puppets and even Clarke's tenure fell away after Ashworth's departure. Both Clarke, Mel and Irvine have made contradictory statements which have both mirrored the views that players are brought and sold against their wishes - it seems to me our head coaches don't know the ******* structure let alone the media or fans.

Take Clarke for example, he was against the sale of Shane Long yet the club went through with it anyway until it later fell through (even of our scouts on Twitter have more or less declared their views on the matter too which tend to mirror Clarkes view), we had Clarke speaking out against the board more or less suggesting they should sign players in preparation for the season, Shane Long was then eventually sold and Pepe Mel insisted it was against his wishes too and then we've had the comments from Alan Irvine, firstly about Brown Ideye and secondly suggesting that his say in recruitment was limited until he then produced a u-turn of epic proportions a week later.

We've gone from appointing two puppets and now gone for a more out-spoken, traditional manager. Albion can keep their head coach tag but there is no doubting that Pulis is running the show and thank god for that because ever since the departure of Ashworth we have been a complete and utter joke on the pitch and off the pitch with our signings and managerial appointments.

Before Albion try lecturing everybody else on their structure, maybe they should get to grips with it themselves, and then inform their head coaches too before they divert uncomfortable signals to the local media which reflect unkindly on Peace, Burton and Garlick.
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