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Tosin Adarabioyo due for a medical today, got to like DM's business.
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Tosin Adarabioyo due for a medical today, got to like DM's business.
There's lot more about him at the link below:
Link: Birmingham Mail (https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/fast-strong-future-manchester-city-14983944)
Guardiola: "Tosin has a lot of steps to get him better. It’s not done, but he has all the quality. He is fast, strong in the air, and has the quality to look forward behind the line for the next pass. He definitely has a future in the first team. He is a nice guy, his mind is open, he listens, he trains every day like it’s the last training of his life and I like to work with these kinds of players a lot.
He has his whole career ahead of him. He doesn’t have to defend anything, saying; ‘I did that, I was this, I won this’. Against true, tough teams - Borussia Dortmund and Bayern Munich - he played very well. He has a lot of things to improve and I hope we can help him to develop his skills."
Man City fans:
"Brilliant defender, had 2 years playing under Pep so has massively improved on the ball, tall, strong and surprisingly quick, sure he’ll do well".
"Tosin Adarabioyo deserves the chance to prove himself in the City squad. Buying another CB is a huge smack in the face I reckon".
"Delighted to see Tosin Adarabioyo extend his stay at City, has a massive future beckoning him, just a matter of time, huge talent".
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Exciting move if this comes off
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Can't say I've heard of him but again another young player with a point to prove and one who comes with a great reputation. Hopefully this will be confirmed tomorrow.
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Was the next big thing a couple of seasons ago, hasn't really progressed the way City were hoping and their fans don't reckon he'll make it with them any more. He'd need a superb season with us to have any chance of getting into the first team reckoning at City. As we're loaning and not buying I personally hope we're going with 4 centre backs and sending Fitzwater on loan for the season.
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Apparently they gave him a new deal worth 25k a week. Now these days in football wages that's pennies especially for clubs like City but 25k a week on a youngster shows they have alot of confidence in him and expect him to develop into some player. Who's knows if we do manage to go up and he does well and enjoys it here we may sign him who knows. Again I'll say it I love what we are doing this summer. So refreshing compared to the plodders Pulis used to sign.
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Apparently they gave him a new deal worth 25k a week. Now these days in football wages that's pennies especially for clubs like City but 25k a week on a youngster shows they have alot of confidence in him and expect him to develop into some player. Who's knows if we do manage to go up and he does well and enjoys it here we may sign him who knows. Again I'll say it I love what we are doing this summer. So refreshing compared to the plodders Pulis used to sign.
I agree with you. I have absolutely no complaints about any of the outgoings or in comings so far.
I just hope we can keep Dawson and get his head sorted and pair him with Hegazi. Those two together would be massive in this league.
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I notice Chris Lepkowski has had a conversation on Twitter with someone where he points out Boro might be one to watch with Dawson. Pulis is a big fan and they will have money next week when they sell Traore to wolves
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I notice Chris Lepkowski has had a conversation on Twitter with someone where he points out Boro might be one to watch with Dawson. Pulis is a big fan and they will have money next week when they sell Traore to wolves
Why would Dawson want to move to a club in the same division?
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Why would Dawson want to move to a club in the same division?
MONEY
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I notice Chris Lepkowski has had a conversation on Twitter with someone where he points out Boro might be one to watch with Dawson. Pulis is a big fan and they will have money next week when they sell Traore to wolves
If Dawson leaves he only goes back to the prem for me
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If it's true that Dawson and representatives were pushing for 70k at Burnley, he'll be lucky if Boro offer half that.
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Had better get back on topic gents before we get a slap on the wrist. Hoping this lad signs. After the James deal collapsed I'll wait for official confirmation.
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Had better get back on topic gents before we get a slap on the wrist. Hoping this lad signs. After the James deal collapsed I'll wait for official confirmation.
At least sarcasm means the moans have been noticed ;)
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At least sarcasm means the moans have been noticed ;)
How could we miss them they happen every other day :P
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How could we miss them they happen every other day :P
Pity people don't take notice then :D
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Pity people don't take notice then :D
Can't really argue with that now can I :P
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Good bonus signing who gives us more options at centre half. Still yet to see us make an outfield signing that hints at long term planning which is becoming a concern for me, but in isolation, this signing looks great.
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Good bonus signing who gives us more options at centre half. Still yet to see us make an outfield signing that hints at long term planning which is becoming a concern for me, but in isolation, this signing looks great.
Bartley and Townsend look like long term planning, but that only works if they turn out to be good enough.
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Good bonus signing who gives us more options at centre half. Still yet to see us make an outfield signing that hints at long term planning which is becoming a concern for me, but in isolation, this signing looks great.
I don;t think you can plan too far ahead in our position as it's all about the short term (the coming season). If we get promotion then we can plan for the long term, however if we don't we need a short term strategy to see us bounce back to the Prem without financially crippling ourselves. That's why I am 100% behind bringing the likes of the Barnes and Adarabioyo in.
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Official. Season-long loan.
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Done Deal
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/albion-swoop-for-city-prospect/
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Looks like a real quality player
Welcome Tosin
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Another exciting loan deal. Keep em coming!!!
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I like his face. He looks like a good lad. Welcome Tosin.
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I'm happy with this as he's highly spoken of by both Guardiola and Man City fans. He also seems to havre his head screwed on and wants to learn and improve. Let's hope he reacts well to having an extended period away from his home.
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2 young lads on loan from previous premiership clubs who are Highly rated...
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just had a quick look on his twitter account & although you cant take it as gospel (see S. Berahino) he comes across as a level headed young lad - glad to have him on board & hope he does well - refreshing in these days of overpaid superstars!
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Hope his form isn't up & down with a name like that.
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Welcome to the club Tosin
Hoping he lives up to his potential
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Hope his form isn't up & down with a name like that.
Do you mean what I think you mean?😉
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Do you mean what I think you mean?😉
Does he dribble before he shoots?
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Does he dribble before he shoots?
Oh jeez!! Here we go.😁
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Is he eligible for tomorrow?
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Welcome to West Bromwich Albion!
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Welcome to the Albion and good luck Tosin.
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Do you mean what I think you mean?😉
:o surely not ;D just the last 5 letters ;D
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Welcome to the Albion and good luck Tosin.
Shall I ask or do you want to costa blanca?
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Bartley and Townsend look like long term planning, but that only works if they turn out to be good enough.
I don’t think you can plan too far ahead in our position as it's all about the short term (the coming season). If we get promotion then we can plan for the long term, however if we don't we need a short term strategy to see us bounce back to the Prem without financially crippling ourselves. That's why I am 100% behind bringing the likes of the Barnes and Adarabioyo in.
Loan deals are like certain foods, they are good as part of a balanced diet (or transfer policy in this case).
If you look at the 2 promotions that i’d say jointly resulted in us having an extended stay in the top division, we signed the likes of Morrison, Brunt, Thomas, Mulumbu, Jara, Cox, Texeira and Miller.
All of those players contributed to making us one of the top 2 teams in the league in both seasons, and while some couldn’t quite make the step up to prem level, others formed the backbone of our premier league side that went on to have a long stay in the league.
Our signings this summer can’t quite be described that way so far, as Bartley has had 6 years in the top flight with Swansea without breaking in to the team, while Townsend is 25 (so not that young), and is being brought in as back up to Gibbs.
The loan moves we have made so far are great, but we do need to balance that out by signing a couple of players now who we see as long term options (think a young Brunt and Morrison).
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Shall I ask or do you want to costa blanca?
You ask. I don’t want to upset the guy in case it was accidental.
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My mate made the comparison earlier that he's City's answer to Axel Tuanzebe. Could be great to have him here.
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He really is mister personality judging by the video on the official site.
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He really is mister personality judging by the video on the official site.
Let’s hope he does his talking on the pitch
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He really is mister personality judging by the video on the official site.
Lol. Yeah not the most charismatic is he?
Don't care though as long as he can play.
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Just seen the official video of him on twitter during the very thorough looking medical and signing and in one shot big Dave is there with him and he, Tosin, is even taller than BIG DAVE! :o
COYB
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Just seen the official video of him on twitter during the very thorough looking medical and signing and in one shot big Dave is there with him and he, Tosin, is even taller than BIG DAVE! :o
COYB
Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Dave is partially tall 6ft or something, I’d be impressed if he was wider than Dave the blokes an absolute tank.
Still never heard of the kid but seems to be highly thought of by one of the best managers in the world so he must have something about him.
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highly thought of by one of the best managers in the world
If Big Dave thinks highly of him then he'll do for me ;)
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Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think Dave is partially tall 6ft or something, I’d be impressed if he was wider than Dave the blokes an absolute tank.
Still never heard of the kid but seems to be highly thought of by one of the best managers in the world so he must have something about him.
Wiki says Darren Moore is 6'2 whereas Toxin is 6'5
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I would much rather we kept Fitzwater.
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Not sure if anybody has been watching all or nothing about man city from last season.
Tosin is in quite a bit of the footage around the squad, also there is one scene where they list the first team centre halves, there are only four of them and tosin name is one of them.
I know when we signed him he had been playing for city in preseason but i thought that was because of world cup players being absent, etc but based on that he was always around the city first team less than six months ago at a very young age he must be something quite special!
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All well and good taking on a young talented player, but I always think they must be introduced into a position that they excel in, with equally, or more talented individuals around them. All well and good if that is City, but our defence is not at it’s best at the moment.
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Hasn't looked to convincing so far.
Cant see him getting anywhere near the City first team anytime soon.
Keep hearing about how he is comfortable on the ball and the best of the defence for ball playing, yet he seems to give the ball away a lot.
The last couple of games he will have learnt a lot, but I don't think a back 3 suits him in the slightest.
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I think in a back four and not asked to play like a midfielder, he would be fine, as would all of our central defenders, even Bartley.
The problem with being asked to play the passing football is that as soon as they misplace a couple of those passes, the confidence disappears from them which ruins the remainder of their game as a result. He, like many others currently, is being hung out to dry by those in charge.
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I actually thought he was the best of the back 3 last night, which is quite worrying really..........
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I actually thought he was the best of the back 3 last night, which is quite worrying really..........
Seems to me the only one capable of playing the ball out from the back but is lacking other basics, he's here and not near the first team at City for a reason and its showing
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I think he looks very nervous and a little bit lost.
Tosin is young and inexperienced, he came to us and get that experience, on paper you would look at Bartley and Dawson, two no nonsense defenders and say he will learn from those, add Hegazi in who can be okay, you think it would work for us, him and City.
The problem is that those defenders who you would think would be solid now look shells of the players they could be / used to be, they are being asked to play a way they clearly cant, they arent getting better at it either, there arent signs of improvement, they are infact getting worse at it and its affecting their all round game.
Tosin is getting minutes here and there in a very poor and out of form defence, as it stands he will probably go back to City a worse one than who came here as he is getting torn a new one every time he plays.
Personally for the time being i would switch to a 4 and put Dawson at right back (his performances this season have done nothing to keep him at centre half) and play Tosin and Hegazi or Bartley at centre half, with Gibbs at left back.
I have thought for ages with the players we have we should be playing a 4-3-3 anyway but if Big Dave and Jones are adamant they want to go 3-5-2 then at least tighten up until January and then buy defenders who can play the way they want.
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What I found odd last night was that in a three he was favoured as the man dole man and Dawson on the right. When we moved to a four he was moved to the right. Surely if he was better on the right of a four he should have been on the right of a three also.
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I have been watching the man City documentary on amazon prime and at the start of last season they showed a tactics board on it where there showed every position and the players available at that position (starter and back up) and this guy was so highly rated by them last season that he was back up for Otamendi, in team that went on to break records.
But, I think his development stalled and they chased Evans and went on to buy laporte last January.
His decline has continued when he was allowed to leave on loan and now he looks like a nervous wreck and terrible compared to the derby loanee from Chelsea Tomouri, who I thought was outstanding yesterday.
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He was good today, him and Dawson look strong....it's just the other "defender"
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Thought the lad had a good game today. Did anyone else notice he started in the middle today & then switched places with Daws?
Someone else reckons Bartley is now suspended. Perhaps ongoing, the better back 3 will be Tosin, Daws & Hegazi? But who would play on the left?? All 3 (4 if you include Bartley) are right footed!
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He is a good footballer. Pep wouldn't trust him otherwise. Should be key to the way we play when we have the ball - gives it away less of than the other CBs, but needs the midfield to show regardless
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He is a good footballer. Pep wouldn't trust him otherwise. Should be key to the way we play when we have the ball - gives it away less of than the other CBs, but needs the midfield to show regardless
Pep doesn't trust him, or he wouldn't be here, he'd be sitting next to Foden on their bench and playing in cup games.
He was OK today, but he is nowhere near champions league quality so unless he has an Outstanding rest of the season for us then he will probably be sold by them.
Very similar to the wisdom loan in that respect.
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Pep doesn't trust him, or he wouldn't be here, he'd be sitting next to Foden on their bench and playing in cup games.
He was OK today, but he is nowhere near champions league quality so unless he has an Outstanding rest of the season for us then he will probably be sold by them.
Very similar to the wisdom loan in that respect.
Wisdom was awful. This lad is a step up.
Played well today missed just one header but Dawson swept up.
He's far better than Bartley and for now that will do us.
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I thought Tosin was our best player today
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Possibly his best performance for us today. I thought Dawson was improved too.
Two out of three ain't bad I don't suppose.
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I thought Tosin was our best player today
My sentiments exactly, made some great challenges.
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I thought he played well today. Back 3 of him, Dawson and Hegazi for me.
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I thought he played well today. Back 3 of him, Dawson and Hegazi for me.
Agreee - Hegazi on the left , who is for me, the best footballing defender at the club.
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I thought he played well today. Back 3 of him, Dawson and Hegazi for me.
His best game for us without a doubt. Possibly one fault many of us have (and I include myself) when judging players who aren't regular first teamers yet is that we don't fully appreciate that it takes a few games for them to get fully up to speed and show their best form. I feel this is true of Adarabioyo, and players like Field, Burke and Townsend as well.
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I thought he played well today. Back 3 of him, Dawson and Hegazi for me.
Tosin. Dawson and Barry for me
In January , I'd be in for Cahill on loan
Up front I'd get Defoe in on loan and we would walk this league
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Not sure about Barry in defence but it might work.
Cahill for definite if possible.
Defoe's a no for me mate he's too similar a player to our Dwight.
I think we definitely need a strong cb.
Keep trying with our young midfielders and what about the Italian lad at westham I think,you know the guy who started off scoring for fun ,although I stand corrected I think he plays for the hammers.
But either way to enable us to attract the top type of players that we need to come we must be top two at Christmas.
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Tosin. Dawson and Barry for me
In January , I'd be in for Cahill on loan
Up front I'd get Defoe in on loan and we would walk this league
I can imagine the melt down if we brought in 2 ageing pros rather than younger players.
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We couldn't afford the wages for Cahill or Defoe.
We had a ball playing centre half in Johnny Evans & we couldn't afford him either.
We've got the players we have because that's all we can afford (or are prepared to pay)
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Brilliant today. Hopefully he keeps it up and we don't see Bartley again
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Brilliant today. Hopefully he keeps it up and we don't see Bartley again
Whole team lot more comfortably as played with four at the back and ditched the silly 3-5-2 formation.
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Very good game today I thought. Dealt with everything
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Excellent tonight. In the starting 11.
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Personally I thought first half he got caught ball watching and out of position.
Much better second half
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Agreed but I just don't rate Bartley at all.
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Superb performance. Used properly, this kid will be a good player for us.
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Great performance from the lad today, hopefully will carry it.
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He's been our best defender for the past 3 games now, ever since Bartley got suspended.
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Personally I thought first half he got caught ball watching and out of position.
Much better second half
Me too. I thought he was arguably our weakest player today. That said he still gave a good, solid 7/10 performance. It was just such a strong team performance.
Given that he's not a natural right back he did well but clearly we still need to desperately get a right back in as soon as we can.
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Me too. I thought he was arguably our weakest player today. That said he still gave a good, solid 7/10 performance. It was just such a strong team performance.
Given that he's not a natural right back he did well but clearly we still need to desperately get a right back in as soon as we can.
Must have been watching a different game. He was the best of our back 3 by miles
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Must have been watching a different game. He was the best of our back 3 by miles
We didn't even play a back 3.
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Very good game today Tosin , and a good ball to get Barnes in. Getting better game by game
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He's improving all the time. He's clearly been taught the passing side to his game at City. It's now just getting him a more complete defender.
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I’d still swap Tosin and Dawson around. Have Dawson at RB where he has played a lot of football over the last 3 years (and played it pretty well in my view) and have Tosin in his natural CB position.
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Thought he was our weakest defender first half he was playing to narrow and kept getting caught out when leeds sent the ball out wide. Thought he should have scored as well.Excellent second half though winning the ball for Barnes's goal. .
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Thought he was our weakest defender first half he was playing to narrow and kept getting caught out when leeds sent the ball out wide. Thought he should have scored as well.Excellent second half though winning the ball for Barnes's goal. .
Seemed to me that we kept converting from 3 at the back to 4 at times yesterday. Agree that our right back area was clearly targeted by Leeds and on a few occasions we got caught 2 on 1 with lots of empty space where Tosin/Phillips should have been. Saying that though I felt Tosin was solid and won pretty much everything.
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Seemed to me that we kept converting from 3 at the back to 4 at times yesterday. Agree that our right back area was clearly targeted by Leeds and on a few occasions we got caught 2 on 1 with lots of empty space where Tosin/Phillips should have been. Saying that though I felt Tosin was solid and won pretty much everything.
We didn't swap between 3 and 4 at all. Tosin by nature is a defender and is not comfortable going forward so he didn't. Whether that was under orders I don't know but he offered nothing in an attacking sense, other than the tackle-cum-pass that set Barnes up for the goal, just remained defensive. That's not a criticism either in fact I think it's a positive, no point asking the boy to do something he struggles with.
Gibbs on the other hand is comfortable going forward and did so often that is why on occasions it may have looked like we had three at the back.
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Considering he's playing out of position (he's a centre half playing right back), and he's not started any league games prior to this season, I think he did really well.
The important thing is he's getting better too.
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Considering he's playing out of position (he's a centre half playing right back), and he's not started any league games prior to this season, I think he did really well.
The important thing is he's getting better too.
He's on form the lad i would still be worried about him playing full back would rather Dawson there and him through the middle
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He didn't do much wrong before he got dropped, and he looked really good when I saw him vs Mansfield in the cup (opposition accounted for of course, but he marshalled Dawson and Field that game).
Seems to have a bit of class about his play. Maybe he will grow into the role over the next few months. Not a pure right back though.
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I'd keep him at RB until January when we can sign a proper RB. if nothing else it made us look much better having Dawson partner Hegazi in the centre, this pairing looked much better last season than when Evans was playing.
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Starting to look a tidy player, must admit the first few times I had saw him I refused to believe he was part of the City academy.
He's settled in now and looks comfortable on the ball. Did well on Saturday considering he was 2 v 1 at times.
Deserves to keep his place and have a good run in the team.
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I'd keep him at RB until January when we can sign a proper RB. if nothing else it made us look much better having Dawson partner Hegazi in the centre, this pairing looked much better last season than when Evans was playing.
Is that the same Evans struggling for game time at Leicester, #overrated
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Still can’t see why in a 4-3-3 we shouldn’t have Dawson at RB where he is reasonably comfortable and have Tosin as CB which is his natural position. Wouldn’t have altered or excused Tosin’s mistake last night which was made in a CB position but in general I think we are just making life harder than it needs to be for him.
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Still can’t see why in a 4-3-3 we shouldn’t have Dawson at RB where he is reasonably comfortable and have Tosin as CB which is his natural position. Wouldn’t have altered or excused Tosin’s mistake last night which was made in a CB position but in general I think we are just making life harder than it needs to be for him.
100% agreement on that. I think he looks a great player but he's not natural on the right and it puts us under undue pressure at times.
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If you look at the stats of when Dawson and Hegazi play together in a back four you will see why we go with that partnership.
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I thought he played very well yesterday overall. What's more, he has been getting better and better with each match he has played. Must retain his place, especially over the woeful Bartley
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I was at the game and watched him closely. His positional play was outstanding. He was good in the tackle and in the air, and very comfortable on the ball. Until his untimely error, and I have no idea what he was thinking, he was my man of the match. Leave the back four as they are,they are getting better as a unit. Why change it? Certainly not for Bartley or Mears pleeeeeeease!
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He got caught out by the spinning ball, a little unfortunate maybe but he should have just wellied it away!
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I thought he had a good game and is clearly going to be a premier league standings, yes he dropped a big clanger but he should be able to get over it very quickly.
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Howler for the goal, but these things happen, you can't just take it in isolation, you have to look at the overall performance and for a lad so young, being asked to play out of position, I continue to be impressed by him.
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It was an awful error at Ipswich. Top defenders cannot be doing that. Fortunately it didn't cost us. Overall the boy did well. Lack of concentration, must learn from it.
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It was an awful error at Ipswich. Top defenders cannot be doing that. Fortunately it didn't cost us. Overall the boy did well. Lack of concentration, must learn from it.
For him personally, it will having been a good footballing lesson for him and part of his learning, he will know not to do that in future and in the bigger picture, it didn't cost us any points.
I would still be happy to see him continuing his run in the team.
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He is a youngster who is learning. I would have a guess that he will never make it at Man City
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He is a youngster who is learning. I would have a guess that he will never make it at Man City
I can't see him at a top 6 club myself, maybe if we go up...?
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I can't see him at a top 6 club myself, maybe if we go up...?
I can see him in the Champions league, I did hear Dogheads were sniffing around
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he like one or two of our own young players need game time to see if they have the potential to move their game up to premiership level or better.
Tosin is getting his here our own arnt :-[
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he like one or two of our own young players need game time to see if they have the potential to move their game up to premiership level or better.
Tosin is getting his here our own arnt :-[
Tosin is above all of our youngsters in the same position, hence why he is getting game time.
Our next right back in line is Wilson, my Father in law is a Walsall season ticket holder and doesn't speak to highly of him, says hes too lightweight and has been targeted a few times when played.
Will Tosin play for City, probably not, but I imagine he will have a decent career at the top level for someone.
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Would like to see him get a little bit closer to his man but to be fair he sometimes gets left 1 on 2 due to matty not always giving cover.
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I like the look of him....and he has improved game by game and often IN game so I am confident he will learn from his error against Ipswich. The will he won't he make it at Man City argument is irrelevant....they have established internationals not getting on the bench. It will be interesting to see how much more he progresses throughout the year.....there will most likely be at least one more loan season but will he be nearer to Premier League ready??
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Absolute class act again tonight, I thought all of the back 4 did well though, but especially him and Hegazi.
Reads the ball very well and his positioning means he intercepts a lot of passes - he also made a crucial tackle where their bloke would have been through, he is miles better than Bartley.
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Absolute class act again tonight, I thought all of the back 4 did well though, but especially him and Hegazi.
Reads the ball very well and his positioning means he intercepts a lot of passes - he also made a crucial tackle where their bloke would have been through, he is miles better than Bartley.
Thought he was excellent until Montero came on, then he struggled quite badly but he is a centre back after all.
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He has the ears of his team mates he never stopped telling them were to be a future captain i'm sure.
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Excellent performance. Played some really smart passes.
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Made some excellent last ditch tackles when their man would have been through, and his timing needed to be spot on. The Swansea sub Monterro got past him a couple of times, but overall his performance was good. It shows that you need to be patient with some young players and give them a chance to learn and improve.
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Thought he was excellent until Montero came on, then he struggled quite badly but he is a centre back after all.
Agree with this. He did make a couple of errors before Montero came on but again I would attribute both of those to a centre back being played a right back.
Don't think he'll make it at the top as a right back, not sure I can comment on how good he is a centre half yet as we've barely seen him play there!
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seems he's been put right at the centre of a media storm...
Cheers for that Raheem.. Need his head focused on the game, not what the national press are saying about his spending habits or the implied racial motivations of the original article...
https://news.sky.com/story/raheem-sterling-responds-after-alleged-racial-attack-at-chelsea-11576020 (https://news.sky.com/story/raheem-sterling-responds-after-alleged-racial-attack-at-chelsea-11576020)
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People may not like to admit it but we do still have 2 huge problems with racism
1) actual racism
2) snowflakes that make an issue where it doesn't exist which in turn gives the actual racists their own justification
I couldn't care less what Tosin spends his money on , I'm also not aware of any rule that says you have to play a perm match to buy a house?
Ridicoulous reporting that needs stamping out
Conversely mugs like ince and Sol Campbell crying about "more black managers" etc is just as bad, No discrimination is the way forward regardless of positive/ negative....
In essence Campbell hasn't been employed because he's a self important egomaniac....hence his speech
The mods on here do a great job, I don't want to start any further convo about lee Hughes (everyone knows the ins and outs ) but you can bet that there are some WBA "fans" that would feel better about shaking Hughes hand than odemwingie... consider that .
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This is a topic about Tosin Adarabioyo, please leave it at Tosin and his football, it is not a topic about racism or Lee Hughes, any further posts will be removed, no exception.
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This is a topic about Tosin Adarabioyo, please leave it at Tosin and his football, it is not a topic about racism or Lee Hughes, any further posts will be removed, no exception.
Sorry
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The kid has done alright. He wasn't a comfy v bolasie or montero but at the end of the day he's a young centre back playing out of position
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I do get the impression Dawson is very reluctant to pass to him whenever we do start to advance down the right side of the pitch. as unlike when Dawson played there he seems reluctant to attempt a bit of a rampage down that wing and tends to quickly ping the ball back or sideways. Despite that his defensive work at right back is better than some we have seen there over recent seasons
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I do get the impression Dawson is very reluctant to pass to him whenever we do start to advance down the right side of the pitch. as unlike when Dawson played there he seems reluctant to attempt a bit of a rampage down that wing and tends to quickly ping the ball back or sideways. Despite that his defensive work at right back is better than some we have seen there over recent seasons
A well observed point, at times we looked very unbalanced against Brentford second half and against the Villa, with all our threat coming down the left until we pushed on with Phillips towards the end. Once the CB's are in a position to make the forward pass and move up the field they do not want it back, which is what Tosin was generally looking to do.
However, lets not forget that Tosin is a centre back playing at RB. So was Dawson admittedly, but he also struggled at first and looked uncomfortable up the field (not as much as Jolean Lescott - now that was cringeworthy) so he had to learn to play the RB role over time. Like Tosin, he doesn't have the raw pace or skill to beat a man, but learnt to time his runs forward to receive the ball and get a cross in. He must have practised crossing on a regular basis as it def improved, although he would still put the odd one in the crowd.
To play in the style Darren Moore wants we need a RB with the athleticism to get up and down the pitch.....after some doubts about his commitment early in the season I have been really impressed with Gibbs. Will be difficult to find another player of that quality for the right hand side, but that is the aim. If we can make the purchase though, it will really add another dimension to our attacking ability and help us spread play down both sides of the pitch.
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The system is set up to deliberately be assymetrical. Rosin stays back which gives Gibbs licence to get forward on the other side, while also freeing Phillips and the rest of the midfield.
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Tosin may be recalled back to Man City.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/premier-league-club-set-recall-15707636
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Tosin may be recalled back to Man City.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/premier-league-club-set-recall-15707636
Not a surprise, no good sending him out just to sit on a bench, he's better than that. They will want him to play.
He's a centre half, not a right back and will have a decent career in a central role.
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Interesting to see how the window affects Tosin given we can only include 5 loan signings in a matchday squad. Be pointless keeping him here as it would be likely I would guess he will be the one left out. He can play in the cup but given we could realistically have only one more game is it worth keeping him and will City be happy with us not using him ?
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Interesting to see how the window affects Tosin given we can only include 5 loan signings in a matchday squad. Be pointless keeping him here as it would be likely I would guess he will be the one left out. He can play in the cup but given we could realistically have only one more game is it worth keeping him and will City be happy with us not using him ?
Would imagine he or one of the wingers will miss out depending on the opposition, state of suspensions/injuries.
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He was one of our liveliest players tonight and he was only on a few minutes. I do think he has some good attributes, pace, aerial ability, calmness on the ball. I think he will make a good player within a year or 2.
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He was very decent today. One of the few positive things out there
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Like him, but he's not as good as the 2 incumbents. That said he'd be the key ball player in a 3.
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I'll say it again could do worse than play him in midfield. We are bring completely overrun in this area and the common denominator is a woeful lack of pace.
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Constantly played out of position. Feel for the lad. There's a decent player in there but the one bloke you don't want to direct him is Darren Moore.
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He's been hung out to dry at RB and LB. Some CB's look like they can play at FB (see Holgate) but he doesn't even look remotely like anything other than a CB for me.
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Been a mixed loan spell from Tosin, some good, some bad, will go on to have a decent career, lower Prem, top Championship, did well last night when he came on just to sit in front of the back four, maybe that could be his position in future up to City to find that out.
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Yes he did welll there i thought. Got the odd quality ball in him, fit as a fiddle, can tackle, can head. YOu might be onto somehting there. He was no good at rightback but tbf that wasnt down to him.
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Thought that was an excellent call by Shan.
Also showed what we lack in centre midfield - pace to close people down.
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There's a good player in there - just needs time to progress. I don't think he has been at all helped that we have flung him into right back, centre half, to the right of a defensive three and now midfield over the course of the season. He needs some stability.
I would be happy to see him stay another year.
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Had a decent game last night, but in general I think he's been bang average. Worth £52k a week? Not a chance. Can't even pass properly.
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Had a decent game last night, but in general I think he's been bang average. Worth £52k a week? Not a chance. Can't even pass properly.
Totally agree with this for the most part he looks like Bambi on ice
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Totally agree with this for the most part he looks like Bambi on ice
He reminds me a bit of Leon Barnett; for large parts of the game he looks quite decent but seems to have the odd clanger in him with poor control/passing etc.
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He reminds me a bit of Leon Barnett; for large parts of the game he looks quite decent but seems to have the odd clanger in him with poor control/passing etc.
He's a far more cultured player than Barnett who was more like Bartley but I don't think he's a centre back. Holding midfield might be his future.
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Been a bit hit and miss but with the right coach there is a good player if played in right position. A poster said he is on £52k a week. a lot of money but that's City for you.
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He's a far more cultured player than Barnett who was more like Bartley but I don't think he's a centre back. Holding midfield might be his future.
I don't think he is. He's not a bad player but isn't a great footballer, instead I think he relies massively on his athleticism rather than technical ability. I.e. he often got saved from being out of position by having very long legs which would just about catch the ball. But in terms of his control and passing, he wasn't great.
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He's on £52k per week?
Tosin is?
Please tell me I have misunderstood...
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He's on £52k per week?
Tosin is?
Please tell me I have misunderstood...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253633/Man-City-footballer-20-25k-week-buys-market-2-25m-home.html
Less than half that.
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He's on £52k per week?
Tosin is?
Please tell me I have misunderstood...
I may have misread that article, but I'm positive I read it somewhere. Wouldn't be the first time I've misread something lol. I thought wba were paying half of his wages as he was a loanee. Perhaps it was something in the wording that made me think it was 50/52.
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I'd have him back for another season if we are paying alf of 26k. Only to play CB or CDM preferrably.
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Don't rate whatsoever if you look at other clubs loaning centre halves from top Premier League clubs such as Tomori, Tuanzebe and Reece James they have been consistent performers for their team. Poor Scouting has got us a 'dud' in my opinion.
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Don't rate whatsoever if you look at other clubs loaning centre halves from top Premier League clubs such as Tomori, Tuanzebe and Reece James they have been consistent performers for their team. Poor Scouting has got us a 'dud' in my opinion.
in those examples they’ve been allowed extended runs in their natural position. Tosin has been played ineffectually out of position to such a degree that he couldn’t really win anyone over.
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Shame it took us so long to work out a position he looked comfortable in, against Villa he looked very composed in the CDM role.
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in those examples they’ve been allowed extended runs in their natural position. Tosin has been played ineffectually out of position to such a degree that he couldn’t really win anyone over.
Appreciate that but even when in his natural position I still felt he looked technically awkward. Tosin will be 22 around the start of next season can't see him ever getting anywhere near the Man City team and at this rate the Premier League for his sake I hope I'm proved wrong and best of luck to the lad in the future.
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Thanks for your service Tosin & hears to a bright future. ;)
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I'd have him back. Could nail down a place in the Championship and really improve with a years experience. Needs realistic wage expectations though.
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Sign him and use his pace in central midfield especially if we lose Harper. I’d test City with say £4m.
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I'd have him back. Could nail down a place in the Championship and really improve with a years experience. Needs realistic wage expectations though.
Agree, he’s a young boy learning his trade and showing signs of promise. He’s not going to break into that Cite side anytime soon, so take a punt on him I say
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Although he’s played in a few different positions, I wouldn’t touch him. To say we’re hardly going to spend a penny, 4 million would be an absolute waste for a player who has often been a liability this season. He’s apparently on 50k odd a week at Citeh too!